November 12, 2025 • 13 mins
Cristina Gomez reviews new information about cases of the mystery objects appearing across the planet over airports and military installations that defy any conventional explanation, including invisibility cloaking, and originating from beneath the ocean, that completely shreds the explanation that they are just drones.
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00:00 - Nightcrawler Team
02:13 - New Jersey UAPs Were Real
03:47 - Government's Changing Story
09:19 - Black Triangle Emerges
11:04 - FBI Takes It Seriously
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02:13 - New Jersey UAPs Were Real
03:47 - Government's Changing Story
09:19 - Black Triangle Emerges
11:04 - FBI Takes It Seriously
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Three civilian scientists armed with thermal cameras, hyper spectral imaging,
and dual band radar have been documenting something extraordinary off
the coast of New York. Objects that vanish from human
sight but appear on infrared spheres moving against the wind
with no sound. Black triangles are merging from clouds that
aren't actually clouds. The FBI is investigating their findings, but
(00:25):
the government says it's all in their heads. But what
if it's not. John and Jerry Tedesco, along with researcher
donal Leonardo, have spent four years conducting systematic surveillance of
the airspace near JFK International Airport, working directly with the
FBI and publishing peer reviewed research. They have captured multisensor
(00:45):
evidence of objects that challenge our current understanding of physics
and even aviation. In a recent interview with journalist Ross
Coltheart on Reality Check, they revealed three radar confirmed, thermally
verified case is that contradict every official explanation about the
New Jersey drone flap. As always, I'm here to report
(01:07):
the information without bias, and you can decide what to believe.
You can find the sources in my detailed articles at
ufonews dot com, along with in the description box below.
Hey you follow yours. I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to
this episode of UFO News Updates. Ros sat down with
three citizen scientists who have been quietly documenting anomalist phenomena
off the coast of New York for four years. John
(01:29):
and Jerry Tedesco, along with the researcher Donna Leonardo, operate
under the name Nightcrawler. Their equipment is not amateur. They
use high end flur thermal cameras, hyper spectral imaging systems,
dual band marine radar spectrum analyzers, and vortex binoculars with
military grade optical glass. They coordinate with the Federal Aviation
(01:50):
Administration and the Coast Guard and they cross reference every
sighting with ADSB flight tracker data, satellite tracking, and maritime maps.
And they have been observing these objects since twenty twenty two,
well before the New Jersey drone flap made headlines. Ross
asked them the question everyone wants the answer to, was
(02:11):
the new Jersey drone flap? Real.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
We've been seeing these things. We've been observing them for
quite a while now. Quite recently we had recorded some
some drone activity down to Robin Moses. They look like
typical drones in this particular case, they kind of large
commercial type, you know, almost six feet across in diameter.
(02:35):
And you know, this is something that you know, we've
actually reported and we contacted the FBI about because this
is an area that you know, the drone. Drone flight
is illegal simply because it's a it's in the parklands,
near the near the municipal airport out of here. JFK.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Not only were these objects real, but they were operating
illegally in restricted airspace and your JFK International Airport. Federal
law requires all drones to have transponders and navigation lighting.
These objects had neither. And here is the critical detail
that contradicts the official narrative.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And they presented they were roughly about a quarter mile
away and then an altitude of about seven or eight
hundred feet. The interesting thing is they were over the water.
They were off the coast. We had looked to see
if there was anybody operating a remote the remote system
to operate them. There was somebody on the beach, there
was nobody in the parking areas.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
There was all boats within range that we could say.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
At a quarter mile distance they should have seen rotor blades
if they were conventional quad copters, but there was no
sound at all. So what exactly were people seeing over
New Jersey and why did the government give two completely
different explanations. On December twelfth, twenty twenty four, White House
National Security Communications Advisor John Herbie held a press briefing
(04:02):
about the New Jersey droad sightings. Listen carefully to what
he said.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Now, finally, I just want to add a few comments
on the reports of drone activity here on the East Coast,
particularly in and around New Jersey. We have no evidence
at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a
national security or a public safety threat, or have a
foreign nexus. The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI
(04:27):
are investigating these sightings, and they're working closely with state
and local law enforcement to provide resources using numerous detection
methods to better understand their origin. Using very sophisticated electronic
detection technologies provided by federal authorities, we have not been
able to, and neither have state or local law enforcement
(04:47):
of authorities, corroborate any of the reported visual sightings.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So in December of twenty twenty four, the Biden administration
claimed these were just manned craft. Now listen to what
the Trump administration said just weeks later, back in January
of twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Five, and before I turned to questions, I do have
news directly from the President of the United States that
was just shared with me in the Oval Office from
President Trump directly an update on the New Jersey drones.
After research and study, the drones that were flying over
New Jersey and large numbers were authorized to be flown
(05:25):
by the FAA for research and various other reasons. Many
of these drones were also hobbyists, recreational and private individuals
that enjoy flying jones in meantime, in time, it got
worse due to curiosity.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
This was not the enemy. When pressed by reporters, John
Kirby made several revealing admissions.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Does the US.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Government have any of its own imagery or video of
these systems.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I'm not aware that we have US government produced imagery ourselves,
But as I said in my opening statement, we have
certainly done thorough analysis of the existing imagery.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
From people's cell phones that we're seeing. Basically, with what
you're looking at, how can you credibly tell people that
there is no public safety threat, there's no national security threat,
that there's no reason to believe that foreign government is involved.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Because the analysis thus far and an investigation that is ongoing,
has not revealed any national security or malicious intent or
criminal activity.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
The most sophisticated military and intelligence apparatus in the world
claims it has no imagery of objects that thousands of
people reported seeing. For weeks, they only analyzed cell phone
footage from civilians.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I cannot characterize for you definitively what these sightings are.
I can just go back to what I said at
the opening. We've looked at the imagery. We can't corroborate
some of the reported sightings through our own expert analysis
using sophisticated detection techniques. There's just no national security threat
that we see in no public safety risks.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
This is where the Tedesco teams evidence becomes critical because
unlike the government, they have answers and they have found
this extraordinary. On July fifth, twenty twenty five, the team
captured something crazy. A luminous sphere was detected one hundred
and forty yards off shore at Robert Moses State Park,
(07:26):
sitting on the surface of the Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
This was invisible to the eye, completely invisible. It was
only through the hyperspectral cameras.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Wow, were you getting it on rida?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Nothing on radar, and the object might have been too
small for radar anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And it was also on the ocean surface, so we
would get kind of are we get a reflection from
the well, it's not something that can't be you know,
distained between you know, whether or not it's you know,
a separate entity from the water.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Especially that closed an object invisible to the human eye,
but clearly visible on multiple censor systems. It was self illuminating,
producing no reflected light on the water. And here's where
it gets truly strange. When viewed through the thermal camera,
the object registered as colder than the surrounding seawater. Now
that violates basic thermodynamics. Anything generating energy should be warmer
(08:19):
than its environment, not colder. Ross asked the obvious question
about how this object was moving.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Do you think this object that you saw on the
fifth of July do you think it was moving intelligently?
Was it manipulate sort of maneuvering in a way that
was moved clearly under some kind of propulsion.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yes, it was. It was. It was definitely an intelligent
control over it. It was changing direction like I says,
was stationary, moved to the east aways, and it made
a turn towards the shoreline.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The object moved against the wind with no visible propulsion,
no sound, and intelligently controlled direction. The team ruled out
every conventional explanation, including birds, boat lighting, and atmospheric phenomena.
This matches witness reports from the New Jersey Flap, objects
emerging from water, objects with no thermal signature, objects moving intelligently,
(09:16):
and there is so much more to the story, so
don't go anywhere. On August twenty ninth, twenty twenty five,
the team captured what may be the most significant evidence yet.
At four fourteen pm Eastern Time, their spectrum analyzer detected
an anomalous signal correlating with a radar return. The object
was hidden inside what appeared to be a dark thunderstorm cloud,
(09:38):
but when they analyze the cloud using shortwave infrared imaging,
they discovered it contained no moisture. Real clouds produced radar
returns because of water droplets. This cloud did not listen
to what Jerry describes seeing emerging from that cloud.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Johnson, there's a black object moving between the cloud and
then it was emerging from the cloud. So he gave me,
he gave me the I found one of my I
grabbed my cell phone and videotape that was John was
looking at and we switched and what we saw was something.
Originally it resembled a very black triangular or delta shaped
(10:17):
to it or bell shaped to it. It had you know,
it had that delta, had that delta shape, a triangular shape,
and was.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Just showing up on radar at the stage that delta.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, we have a target.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
We tracked on radar, and on radar it appears to
separate into two more two more objects, which is quite interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And here is what is so fascinating. The object remained
slightly out of focus when viewed through high powered binoculars,
even though commercial aircraft at higher altitude who were perfectly clear.
The team observed a shimmer or distortion field around the object,
and the moment they activated their radar to scan the cloud,
(10:58):
the object began moving. It appeared to detect their surveillance
and even react to it. The black triangle was observed
approximately four miles away from the Brookhaven National Laboratory, home
to the second largest nuclear particle accelerator in the United States.
During the New Jersey drone flap, numerous sightings occurred near
(11:18):
the Picatini Arsenal, a major military weapons storage facility. These
objects appear to be surveying sensitive nuclear and military installations.
Donald Leonardo explained that when she first began reporting observations
in twenty twenty two, in early twenty twenty three, she
struggled to get officials to take her seriously, but by
twenty twenty five everything changed.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Was there an interest? Is this being taken seriously? I'm
gonna appreciate you can't talk about the work that you've
been doing with the FBI, but can you assure as
they are taking the work that you're doing seriously.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
They're taking absolutely seriously.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
There's a genuine interest in this stuff.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
And that's now because back in twenty twenty two, early
twenty twenty, when we were still involved in phase one
of the study and seeing some of these types of phenomena,
I was calling I was researching and calling the you know,
the Coast Guard, all the various municipal layers, the park government,
(12:16):
the police. I was calling Homeland Security, federal as well
as state. And what I was getting was if we
were doing something in the area, one we wouldn't tell you.
Other people were saying, well, if we saw that, we
would go have our heads examined. And then some people
can't exactly and some people even said because it was
during early twenty twenty three this set of phone calls,
(12:38):
some postcard officials said, well, why don't you call Joe
Biden because he's just been shooting them down the Chinese
the Chinese balloons.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
If the FBI is still actively investigating these objects years later,
why are we being told there's nothing to see. I'm
Christiana Gomez and that is it for today. I will
see you again tomorrow at ten AMPST for another US
phone news update. Be safe and remember keep your eyes
on the skies. If you enjoy today's show, hit that
(13:34):
like button. And if you're not subscribed, what are you
waiting for? Hit notification bell as I do day UFO
news and update thrash you wait. Two stories, government disclosures
and breaking developments land here every single day.
Three civilian scientists armed with thermal cameras, hyper spectral imaging,
and dual band radar have been documenting something extraordinary off
the coast of New York. Objects that vanish from human
sight but appear on infrared spheres moving against the wind
with no sound. Black triangles are merging from clouds that
aren't actually clouds. The FBI is investigating their findings, but
(00:25):
the government says it's all in their heads. But what
if it's not. John and Jerry Tedesco, along with researcher
donal Leonardo, have spent four years conducting systematic surveillance of
the airspace near JFK International Airport, working directly with the
FBI and publishing peer reviewed research. They have captured multisensor
(00:45):
evidence of objects that challenge our current understanding of physics
and even aviation. In a recent interview with journalist Ross
Coltheart on Reality Check, they revealed three radar confirmed, thermally
verified case is that contradict every official explanation about the
New Jersey drone flap. As always, I'm here to report
(01:07):
the information without bias, and you can decide what to believe.
You can find the sources in my detailed articles at
ufonews dot com, along with in the description box below.
Hey you follow yours. I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to
this episode of UFO News Updates. Ros sat down with
three citizen scientists who have been quietly documenting anomalist phenomena
off the coast of New York for four years. John
(01:29):
and Jerry Tedesco, along with the researcher Donna Leonardo, operate
under the name Nightcrawler. Their equipment is not amateur. They
use high end flur thermal cameras, hyper spectral imaging systems,
dual band marine radar spectrum analyzers, and vortex binoculars with
military grade optical glass. They coordinate with the Federal Aviation
(01:50):
Administration and the Coast Guard and they cross reference every
sighting with ADSB flight tracker data, satellite tracking, and maritime maps.
And they have been observing these objects since twenty twenty two,
well before the New Jersey drone flap made headlines. Ross
asked them the question everyone wants the answer to, was
(02:11):
the new Jersey drone flap? Real.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
We've been seeing these things. We've been observing them for
quite a while now. Quite recently we had recorded some
some drone activity down to Robin Moses. They look like
typical drones in this particular case, they kind of large
commercial type, you know, almost six feet across in diameter.
(02:35):
And you know, this is something that you know, we've
actually reported and we contacted the FBI about because this
is an area that you know, the drone. Drone flight
is illegal simply because it's a it's in the parklands,
near the near the municipal airport out of here. JFK.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Not only were these objects real, but they were operating
illegally in restricted airspace and your JFK International Airport. Federal
law requires all drones to have transponders and navigation lighting.
These objects had neither. And here is the critical detail
that contradicts the official narrative.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And they presented they were roughly about a quarter mile
away and then an altitude of about seven or eight
hundred feet. The interesting thing is they were over the water.
They were off the coast. We had looked to see
if there was anybody operating a remote the remote system
to operate them. There was somebody on the beach, there
was nobody in the parking areas.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
There was all boats within range that we could say.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
At a quarter mile distance they should have seen rotor blades
if they were conventional quad copters, but there was no
sound at all. So what exactly were people seeing over
New Jersey and why did the government give two completely
different explanations. On December twelfth, twenty twenty four, White House
National Security Communications Advisor John Herbie held a press briefing
(04:02):
about the New Jersey droad sightings. Listen carefully to what
he said.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Now, finally, I just want to add a few comments
on the reports of drone activity here on the East Coast,
particularly in and around New Jersey. We have no evidence
at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a
national security or a public safety threat, or have a
foreign nexus. The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI
(04:27):
are investigating these sightings, and they're working closely with state
and local law enforcement to provide resources using numerous detection
methods to better understand their origin. Using very sophisticated electronic
detection technologies provided by federal authorities, we have not been
able to, and neither have state or local law enforcement
(04:47):
of authorities, corroborate any of the reported visual sightings.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So in December of twenty twenty four, the Biden administration
claimed these were just manned craft. Now listen to what
the Trump administration said just weeks later, back in January
of twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Five, and before I turned to questions, I do have
news directly from the President of the United States that
was just shared with me in the Oval Office from
President Trump directly an update on the New Jersey drones.
After research and study, the drones that were flying over
New Jersey and large numbers were authorized to be flown
(05:25):
by the FAA for research and various other reasons. Many
of these drones were also hobbyists, recreational and private individuals
that enjoy flying jones in meantime, in time, it got
worse due to curiosity.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
This was not the enemy. When pressed by reporters, John
Kirby made several revealing admissions.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Does the US.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Government have any of its own imagery or video of
these systems.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I'm not aware that we have US government produced imagery ourselves,
But as I said in my opening statement, we have
certainly done thorough analysis of the existing imagery.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
From people's cell phones that we're seeing. Basically, with what
you're looking at, how can you credibly tell people that
there is no public safety threat, there's no national security threat,
that there's no reason to believe that foreign government is involved.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Because the analysis thus far and an investigation that is ongoing,
has not revealed any national security or malicious intent or
criminal activity.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
The most sophisticated military and intelligence apparatus in the world
claims it has no imagery of objects that thousands of
people reported seeing. For weeks, they only analyzed cell phone
footage from civilians.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I cannot characterize for you definitively what these sightings are.
I can just go back to what I said at
the opening. We've looked at the imagery. We can't corroborate
some of the reported sightings through our own expert analysis
using sophisticated detection techniques. There's just no national security threat
that we see in no public safety risks.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
This is where the Tedesco teams evidence becomes critical because
unlike the government, they have answers and they have found
this extraordinary. On July fifth, twenty twenty five, the team
captured something crazy. A luminous sphere was detected one hundred
and forty yards off shore at Robert Moses State Park,
(07:26):
sitting on the surface of the Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
This was invisible to the eye, completely invisible. It was
only through the hyperspectral cameras.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Wow, were you getting it on rida?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Nothing on radar, and the object might have been too
small for radar anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And it was also on the ocean surface, so we
would get kind of are we get a reflection from
the well, it's not something that can't be you know,
distained between you know, whether or not it's you know,
a separate entity from the water.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Especially that closed an object invisible to the human eye,
but clearly visible on multiple censor systems. It was self illuminating,
producing no reflected light on the water. And here's where
it gets truly strange. When viewed through the thermal camera,
the object registered as colder than the surrounding seawater. Now
that violates basic thermodynamics. Anything generating energy should be warmer
(08:19):
than its environment, not colder. Ross asked the obvious question
about how this object was moving.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Do you think this object that you saw on the
fifth of July do you think it was moving intelligently?
Was it manipulate sort of maneuvering in a way that
was moved clearly under some kind of propulsion.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yes, it was. It was. It was definitely an intelligent
control over it. It was changing direction like I says,
was stationary, moved to the east aways, and it made
a turn towards the shoreline.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The object moved against the wind with no visible propulsion,
no sound, and intelligently controlled direction. The team ruled out
every conventional explanation, including birds, boat lighting, and atmospheric phenomena.
This matches witness reports from the New Jersey Flap, objects
emerging from water, objects with no thermal signature, objects moving intelligently,
(09:16):
and there is so much more to the story, so
don't go anywhere. On August twenty ninth, twenty twenty five,
the team captured what may be the most significant evidence yet.
At four fourteen pm Eastern Time, their spectrum analyzer detected
an anomalous signal correlating with a radar return. The object
was hidden inside what appeared to be a dark thunderstorm cloud,
(09:38):
but when they analyze the cloud using shortwave infrared imaging,
they discovered it contained no moisture. Real clouds produced radar
returns because of water droplets. This cloud did not listen
to what Jerry describes seeing emerging from that cloud.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Johnson, there's a black object moving between the cloud and
then it was emerging from the cloud. So he gave me,
he gave me the I found one of my I
grabbed my cell phone and videotape that was John was
looking at and we switched and what we saw was something.
Originally it resembled a very black triangular or delta shaped
(10:17):
to it or bell shaped to it. It had you know,
it had that delta, had that delta shape, a triangular shape,
and was.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Just showing up on radar at the stage that delta.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, we have a target.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
We tracked on radar, and on radar it appears to
separate into two more two more objects, which is quite interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And here is what is so fascinating. The object remained
slightly out of focus when viewed through high powered binoculars,
even though commercial aircraft at higher altitude who were perfectly clear.
The team observed a shimmer or distortion field around the object,
and the moment they activated their radar to scan the cloud,
(10:58):
the object began moving. It appeared to detect their surveillance
and even react to it. The black triangle was observed
approximately four miles away from the Brookhaven National Laboratory, home
to the second largest nuclear particle accelerator in the United States.
During the New Jersey drone flap, numerous sightings occurred near
(11:18):
the Picatini Arsenal, a major military weapons storage facility. These
objects appear to be surveying sensitive nuclear and military installations.
Donald Leonardo explained that when she first began reporting observations
in twenty twenty two, in early twenty twenty three, she
struggled to get officials to take her seriously, but by
twenty twenty five everything changed.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Was there an interest? Is this being taken seriously? I'm
gonna appreciate you can't talk about the work that you've
been doing with the FBI, but can you assure as
they are taking the work that you're doing seriously.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
They're taking absolutely seriously.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
There's a genuine interest in this stuff.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
And that's now because back in twenty twenty two, early
twenty twenty, when we were still involved in phase one
of the study and seeing some of these types of phenomena,
I was calling I was researching and calling the you know,
the Coast Guard, all the various municipal layers, the park government,
(12:16):
the police. I was calling Homeland Security, federal as well
as state. And what I was getting was if we
were doing something in the area, one we wouldn't tell you.
Other people were saying, well, if we saw that, we
would go have our heads examined. And then some people
can't exactly and some people even said because it was
during early twenty twenty three this set of phone calls,
(12:38):
some postcard officials said, well, why don't you call Joe
Biden because he's just been shooting them down the Chinese
the Chinese balloons.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
If the FBI is still actively investigating these objects years later,
why are we being told there's nothing to see. I'm
Christiana Gomez and that is it for today. I will
see you again tomorrow at ten AMPST for another US
phone news update. Be safe and remember keep your eyes
on the skies. If you enjoy today's show, hit that
(13:34):
like button. And if you're not subscribed, what are you
waiting for? Hit notification bell as I do day UFO
news and update thrash you wait. Two stories, government disclosures
and breaking developments land here every single day.
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