January 23, 2025 • 61 mins
Step into the shadows with Alyx and Calla as they uncover the mysteries of sound healing with our enchanting guest, Nicole Gadbois. Nicole is a sound healer and magic practitioner, walking the paths of the moonlit forest under the guidance of Artemis, the huntress, and Hekate, the keeper of the crossroads.
In this spine-tingling episode, Nicole reveals the secrets of using vibrations to heal both the physical and soul, and her rituals under the moon’s gaze. She’ll share stories of working with these goddesses, their whispers in the night, and how they’ve shaped her journey into the occult.Then we dive into sound healing, the art of using vibrations to unlock hidden energies, align the spirit, and awaken the soul. Through chants, tones, and resonant frequencies, it taps into the unseen forces that ripple through the universe—echoes of ancient power said to soothe restless spirits and mend fractured auras. Some believe these sounds can open portals to other realms, where healing and mystery entwine. Are you ready to feel the hum of the unknown?Prepare to be drawn into a world of haunting soundscapes, ancient rites, and moonlit mysteries. This is not just an episode—it’s an invitation to stand at the edge of the unknown. Will you dare to cross over?Music for this episode includes the Strange Talk Intro by Star Silk, 639 Hz - Healing Frequencies by Albert-Paul, and backing tracks by Panda Beats.
In this spine-tingling episode, Nicole reveals the secrets of using vibrations to heal both the physical and soul, and her rituals under the moon’s gaze. She’ll share stories of working with these goddesses, their whispers in the night, and how they’ve shaped her journey into the occult.Then we dive into sound healing, the art of using vibrations to unlock hidden energies, align the spirit, and awaken the soul. Through chants, tones, and resonant frequencies, it taps into the unseen forces that ripple through the universe—echoes of ancient power said to soothe restless spirits and mend fractured auras. Some believe these sounds can open portals to other realms, where healing and mystery entwine. Are you ready to feel the hum of the unknown?Prepare to be drawn into a world of haunting soundscapes, ancient rites, and moonlit mysteries. This is not just an episode—it’s an invitation to stand at the edge of the unknown. Will you dare to cross over?Music for this episode includes the Strange Talk Intro by Star Silk, 639 Hz - Healing Frequencies by Albert-Paul, and backing tracks by Panda Beats.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Speaker 2 (01:27):
Good evening and welcome to the hour dedicated to talking
about all things strange, weird, and paranormal. You're listening to
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to this episode in most of our episodes, is the
Strangehock Intro by Star Solk.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And I'm your host, Alex.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And then I am Colin Marie Rowan, the behind the
scenes and guest coordinator and social media coordinator for Strange Talk.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You're a co host tonight, that's I'm a co host
tonight's day night. Yeah, and then we have a very
special guest tonight. If you would like to introduce yourself.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
And I am a.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Oh you still there?
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Oh there we go.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, sometimes I'm going to give you but yeah, if
you would like to reintroduce yourself, it is working now,
Sorry about that, Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yeah. Hi, my name is Nicole. I'm a sound healer
and a colpist.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, and uh Cala Cala has known you for a
while I am just meeting you, but we just thought
you would be a very very interesting guest because sound
healing is like way up our alley here, that's right
up in the Strange Talk niche Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
And then since I've been a practitioner since I was nineteen,
so about seven years now, and then obviously, like I
know your work and I think your work is a
sound has just been so fascinating to watch unfold, and
I just wanted to have you on the show and
interview you and ask you a couple of questions such as,
(03:12):
what is your first initial experience with magic, Nicole, and
just kind of go into more of like your detail
about your personal practice.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Sure, okay, so like first initial experience doing magic or
like first magical Okay, well anyways, yeah, yeah, so my
first initial experience is actually kind of spooky. Yeah, I know,
(03:40):
you guys like spooky stories.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
We do love a spooky strange story.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yes, all right, So I'm thirty two now, so this
was when I was sixteen, so yeah, it's been time.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, So my experience with magic started out when I
was sixteen. I turned sixteen, and I just like woke
up one day and I didn't like my boyfriend, and
it was just like the feeling of like just wakefulness,
(04:21):
where like there's more to just watching football on a
Saturday night or I don't know, I was just feeling something.
So I actually just broke up with him and yeah, right,
and he was just so dull and just like in
(04:44):
the video games, and I had more like questions, like
you know, and we just weren't mashing very well, so.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Happier hobbies but also like I don't know, be focused
on growth or having like interests that like involved the
rest of the world.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, So after that happened, I started seeing the number
eleven eleven, oh eleve it like the sequence. Yeah, it's
a weird, strange but incredibly common thing that people apparently
have reported as somewhat paranormal. And yeah, so I started
(05:27):
seeing this number like eleven everywhere, not just like on time,
like on the clock or whatever, but like you know,
and receipts and license plates, and it was just weird
and it wasn't It was like it was like I
(05:48):
wasn't even like thinking about it, and it would be
there and I'm like, just what is going on with
this number? And I just got so frustrated. And where
did I And I'm like, okay, like this is happening
like a lot. Sorry, my room buz is going going
to go off.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
You're good now.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Your room bud just has a couple of things to say.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
The room bus like, oh, I'm very intrigued by the number.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Eleven, and so yeah that I started seeing it, and
I got frustrated and I looked it up and I
didn't really get the answer that like I know now
that it's like the call to the great work, but
basically it was like, oh, you're waking up. It's like
(06:34):
this new age kind of definition of like waking up
into the world, and so like it reflected a lot
of like what I was feeling before, you know, before
I broke up with my boyfriend at the time, and
seeing that number and so I was like, oh, okay,
(06:55):
so I guess I'm waking up. And so then naturally
I just started getting into meditation and chakra work, Like
I found some really cool exercises online that were like
(07:15):
energetic opening chakras and like a lot of like energy
kind of work that I just naturally started working with.
But then that was going really well, and I was
like making energy balls and all this kind of cool stuff.
(07:40):
But then I started randomly waking up at three thirty
three oh in the morning.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I yeah, had that happened for a while where I
kept wing up it like three exactly where I went
the same weird It creeps me out when that happens.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Yeah, So I started waking up about three thirty three
in the morning, and for a while I didn't really
think too much about it. There's like this thing, that
natural thing that happens with the human mind where it
just kind of shifts a little bit and sometimes you
can wake up around that time. Yeah, but yeah, I
(08:24):
just like would wake up at this time, and like
gradually I noticed that my energy that I was like
working on like so hard with my meditations and my
just like the chakra work and you know stuff like that,
Like I just started feeling like not energetic at all,
(08:49):
like you know, like a drain drink, like completely completely
drained of energy. And so, h yeah, that was weird.
And then what happened, what woke me up to what
actually was happening, was, Uh, I was actually in a
(09:12):
dream and there was a shadowy figure uh that you know,
pushed me up against the wall and took my energy
from from my uh my chi, my center, you know
(09:33):
where the chi sits. So it was like the sense
cool sensation like going in and like I could feel
it all happening when, you know, in the dream. And
I tried to wake myself up. Usually I can control
myself through you know, dreams and wake myself up when
(09:53):
they're bad. But for some reason I could not. I
could not make up, and yeah, I was like almost
like I was in the state of paralysis.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You know, so hate paralysis like that.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Oh yeah, like who knows, maybe yeah, maybe maybe it
was a combination or whatever. But this is like where
it gets kind of spooky.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yell, the number Quincid's is already pretty spooky.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, And having a shadow demon push you against the
wall in your.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Dream, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Might be spooky.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Oh my god. So like it was like taking my energy.
And then somehow I was thinking in my dream because
I was raised Catholic, so I knew the angel. So
I was thinking in my dream of the name Michael.
And in that moment of just even thinking the name Michael,
(10:55):
the angel, it almost like pushed back a little bit.
And then I I was able to like a little
bit of breath that I had, I was able to
actually like scream for the angel Michael, and yeah, so
I called him in my dream and then everything was
(11:16):
just on fire all around me. There was just fire
like everywhere, and then I woke up. Guess what time?
I woke up at.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Three thirty three?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Maybe just like a just a.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Wild guess yeah, oh gosh, so.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah, I woke up at three thirty three.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And you said you were sixteen when this happened to you.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And this was my first
experience with the spooky spooky, which led me yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
The spooky, yes, the spooking.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, that was my first experience with the paranormal. So
I immediately started when I noticed the clock, I immediately
started praying to Michael, like and you know, consciously, and
he came in like immediately I felt him right there,
(12:20):
and he was like, Nicole, you are like incredibly special,
like your light is incredibly incredibly bright, and you need
to protect yourself. You need to learn how to protect yourself.
And I'm like, what the heck does that even mean?
Like protect myself from what? And then obviously I was like,
(12:43):
oh so now you know and yeah, yeah, so well
that was happening. While he was telling me this, I
was also like praying to Raphael, and I was, you know,
as I was praying, like I could feel the heat
returning to to my body, like because when I woke up,
(13:06):
it felt like the physical sensation like I brought it
out with me, Like it was really creepy.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, it's really really spooky. Like as far as ways
to first experience that, that's a really intense first experience.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, especially with the paranormal. And then I know that
you and I've talked about that. That's that was your introduction,
and then you started developing your ceremonial magic background.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Right, oh did we lose you again?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Oh my god, my freaking my earbud like dropped down.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
No no, no, yeah, And we can also edit it out.
So here, let me ask the question again. So that
experience kind of was the catalyst for you starting your
own magical practice to protect yourself, but then your ceremonial
magic background as well.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Right, yeah, So after that experience, I went online and
I came across the Lusser Vanishing ritual of the Pentagram
and l yeah, and I really liked it because like
(14:37):
it had the angels and I was like sweet, like
I prayed to like two of these angels last night,
like I'm good. I really liked how that was and
and it so my intuition was like do this first,
do the LVRP first, and then I found this like
exorcism ritual with seawater and and then like I also
(15:05):
like incorporated like this fiery light that was like pulsing
through me after the lb RP, Like it was like
this like fire like it. Okay, so actually you guys
want to know what happened. So this gets this gets
even creepier.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh okay, this is well, well I'm strange, weird and paranormal.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Let's go all right. So I was like doing this
research and like coming up with like a ritualistic plant
and like you know, get rid of this thing. And
I had my friend Liz. I called her. I'm like
and it was also like a Friday. I'm like, hey,
(15:49):
you want to come over? You know like how I
was like saying like I kept waking up at this time,
like I know what's happening. I think it's like an entity.
And she's like, oh, I think it's an entity, and
she's like okay, and I'm like, like I don't really
need your like spiritual help or anything, but like it
(16:10):
would be great to just have you there in case,
like something really really bad happens. There's a priest like
next door, like across the street, and he may be
really confused, but who knows, maybe he can help you.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Okay, you're already in that, like in that alone. That's
why you're surviving the horror movie. Most people are like
I got this, and I'm like, you're gonna die. No,
you are going to die or end up possessed yep, yep.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
And like I and I've told you, Nicole.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I had a similar experience with my apartment when I
was seventeen, and I absolutely called everybody that I knew
that would believe me to be like, this is happening
and I'm assaulting my window sills and if something happens,
this is what's happening.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
So I'm glad you had that with Liz too.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
To be fair, I also probably wouldn't survive because I'm like,
I'm gonna go investigate it, and I'm like, hell, that's
how you do. I'm like, you phone a friend. I'm
taking my sault and I'm investigating.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
No, you phone a friend, and.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So I'm taking my sault and investigating it.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
And also bought you phone your friend, your phone your friend.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That would be the correct answer, but I'm always like
I have to confirm it something before I get like
anybody involved, or I'm like, let me make sure there's something.
And I'm not just really tired yet.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
I'm just glad you called Liz.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
So after he called Liz and told about the priests,
what happened next Nicole.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
So, so she comes over and I'm showing her like
my plan, my like virtualistic plan, and I wasn't even
that late at night, and we're like sitting at the
computer and we're just like hanging out kind of joking,
like we're joking right now and talking and kind of
like lightheartedly. And then the room it was a horror movie. Okay,
(17:56):
the room just dropped like five ten degrees and.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
I don't like that, but yeah, I hate that I've
been there.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah, so that happened. And then while like the stuff
was in Q for a print, the light started to
flicker and that was really weird. But like the light
stayed on but it was just kind of cold and
but but then okay, so that's the third thing that
(18:25):
happened again with the number three was my cat at
the time, Callie. She was upstairs, and she came like
down into like the middle of the stairs and let
off this god awful Yeah. I've never heard a cat
(18:50):
make this sound in my life, even even when they're
fighting or and like it was just like an other
worldly yowling sound. So anyways, I don't think it was
my cat, but it might have been. So I never
(19:17):
heard her make that sound, and she never made it
after that, so it was just okay. So I went
over to the stairs and Liz was she got up
right behind me. And when I went over to her
to the stairs, and I'm like, what's up Calli and
(19:39):
and she she's looking up at the ceiling and I
look up and I see it with my own two eyes.
I see this thing go from over my head. It
was behind me, and then it went over my head
and then it chase my cat up the stairs. And
(20:04):
that's when the fiery, uh, fiery magic of the gods
came running through me because I was like, you're not
gonna hurt my cat? What the heck nol. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I turn around and my friend that once, you know,
(20:28):
we we had our you know, her cheeks were filled
with warmth and we were talking and laughing. I turned
around and all of the color from her face is
just completely dropped, and I'm like, did you see that?
And she was like, oh, it was behind you and
(20:52):
it looked like a little it looked I'm scared. It's
just like I'm She's like, Nicole, I will go with
you into every single room of your house, but I
will not go into the basement there.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And I'm like, you never go into the basement. That's
the second rule of how you survive harmony.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Never go in the base.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Okay, well you know what I had to go, and
well you.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You had to, but your friend was smart to not
go in the basement. Friend, she had the backup.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, she didn't have to go.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
It was something that you had to face.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, basically. I So what I did was I
started in my room, I did the LBRP and called
on the angels. I prayed with them and like you know,
envisioned myself like protected and fiery light, and then I
went through the house cleansing the house with this ritual
(21:55):
as well as like envisioning the fire that like I
saw in my dream, the fires of Michael cleansed that
like cleansing every part of the house. So that happened,
and then everything seemed pretty good, like for the majority
of the house seemed really good. But then I got
(22:15):
to the point where I had to go into the basement.
And so I went into the basement and I had
it kinned down in there, and when as I descended,
I like envisioned the light like going in and like
piercing the darkness. And so I went down into it
and you know, there was only like a light, one
(22:37):
or two lights on and it was like this stone basement,
and you know there was a part that was like
really really dark, and I went into the darkest spot
and you know, called all the names of God and
you know banished it there in the basement by myself.
(22:59):
I mean, well I wasn't really by myself. I was
with the angels too. But after that the house got
a lot lighter and I didn't wake up at three
thirty three ever again. So yeah, so that happened. That
was my kind of cool experience.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
It at least stopped you from waking up at three
thirty three, but like I hate laterally by fire though, Yeah, goodness,
bless bless the saint Michael.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, well, I like, you know, obviously growing up Catholic
and then starting to dive into ceremonial magic, but then
you created your own relationship with Hecate and Artemis. So
I performed the initiation ritual that you wrote about that yesterday.
I did do that yesterday. It was the wolf moon.
(23:56):
Aw woo woo woo.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Here, let's try to figure out what though it was.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
All right, are we we countdown?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, let's all do it together.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, three, two, one two, You're welcome to my neighbors.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yes, but explain the rituals that you wrote to honor
the goddess Artemis. And then it kind of explained your
relationship with Artemis.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Yeah, okay, so as you know, but not probably not
in every any of our listeners. But so I'm I'm
into archery and I have been doing it for like
thirteen years now, and but I never really like I
(24:44):
never was really into her, and and how I found
her was actually through Hekka And yeah, so it was
actually a night a New Moon on night and I
(25:04):
was like, you know, talking with the spirits and I
heard he could I say, like, you know, like you're
you're really good with archery. I want you to seek
out artemis. You need to seek out artemis like this
is this is your next thing that you need to do.
And so I was like, oh, okay, so I'll seek
(25:25):
her out. And anyways, so the way that I did
it was I I figured out that you know, she's
a goddess of music as well as dance as well
as her brother, and she leads the graces out to dance.
(25:51):
She's like considered one of the finest dancers, like you know.
I was like, well, what if I, you know, start
this dance ritual to her to like you know and
enticer into my life. And it seemed to really be
(26:16):
like really helpful learning with her, Like she she she
started like showing up like at the range with me,
like after the first initiation. Yeah yeah, so yeah, Like
(26:38):
for example, like there would be like three deer at
the at the at the target number three, or there
would be like I would do like a ritual to
her and like be doing like the shape shifting into
a serpent through the new men, and then I would
(27:01):
see like a snake the next day at the range.
And so she would like communicate to me through nature.
And and so especially when I would when I would shoot.
Before I lived up in like northern Seattle, I lived
(27:24):
closer towards like the Cascade area, and it was more
like farm land, and so I had a lot of
area to kind of shoot. I just shot off a
deck and like one day I was just shoot to
(27:44):
my bow, and I see, like I had these two
deer that would visit me, and because like I feed
them apples.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
This is the most I ever heard.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
My life is like a Disney story.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's weird, which just just for the listeners who were
not familiar with us artists is associated with like you know,
the hunt, and so very much with like deer and
snakes and like any any creature you could possibly find
in the woods. That's like that's artemis, especially if you're
feeding them apples.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah. So I had these two deer and they would
just like kind of hang out in the yard. And
they were both male, and but they would hang out
in the yard and and I would just shoot and
they'd be like in the yard and just be like chilling,
like hey, like, you know, I'm not afraid of you.
(28:38):
And so I saw my deer running up the driveway
and and they were like running, and I'm like, why
are they running like that? And right behind them was
a black dog and so, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Whenever I hear black dog, I'm a black dog. I'm
a me like oh like a grim.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
So, so the black dog was chasing the deer and
I make eye contact with the deer or the dog. Sorry,
there's a delivery.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
There was a deer, there was a gone on, there's
a lot of there's a lot of creatures.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
There's a lot of animals here.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, there's a delivery at the door right now. But
my husband's got it.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Three ds. We got the deer, the dog, the delivery.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
So you know, this is like, you know, so triple triple,
the triple the d Okay, so.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Amazing.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
So yeah, so like I'm just like I make eye
contact with the dog, and like I went down to
the end of the target where the target was, and
I look off and I'm like why, And I made
I contact it and I pointed at it and I'm
like you go, whoa now, And that dog stopped and
(30:11):
it just stopped, like directly in its tracks, like trying
to chase this deeer, and it went straight home. And
I'm like, oh my gosh, cow, I don't even know
the dog, doesn't even know me, but you.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Just reminded me of a story. I this is a
very quick story. Is the only reason I'm interrupting you.
I where I used to live when I first moved
to Lexington. I once saw this dog running down the
street and I like, it was the day that I
got my first binder in the mail, so I had
put it on and I saw a dog loose in
the street. So I sprint it off trying to catch
(30:46):
this dog because I was like, oh my gosh, you're
gonna get hit. And this dog got just barely clipped
by a car, but in a way because this dog
was like a pipple, it was like meatball dog. And
so I ran up and she was like limping because
her her paul got clipped. Turns out it didn't actually
hurt her. She was just like oh. But when I
walked up to her and I grabbed her tag because
(31:07):
I was like, where do you live? I literally went
where do you live? And I saw the tag said Artemis. Oh,
my god, and I went to flip it over while
I asked where do you live? And she just started
walking and I followed her, and she walked me to
her house, where I was able to knock on the
door to get her owners to come get her. That's
amazing and that's the only reason I remember it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Where I went.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I just remembered that dog's name was Artemis, and I
was like, please keep your dog out of this, and
they went, oh, we had let her in the backyard,
not realizing the back gate was open, and I went, oh.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Who very glad she didn't get clipped by a car.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
But like she walked home like normal, like she was
like limping for a second, and then when I asked
where do you live, she just went I just walked home.
I went, are you messing? I don't know what's happening.
I'm just going to take you home. You're showing me
where homie is.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
I'm going to follow you.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, you just reminded me of that because I hadn't
remembered until now that her name was Artemis.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
I love that you have that story, Alex.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
And then so Alex knows this, as you said, Nicole,
that everything about this is very Disney Princess.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
You are the Disney Prince. I am not.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
My mother Growing up, always joked that I was blessed
by Saint Francis because stray animals come and find me.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
They do.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
That happens all the time. Alex has been there for
four different animals. The Humane Society knows my ad.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
They probably have you on a list and think that
you're like kidnapping animals.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
They had to verify our address last time. I went
to make sure it was accurate. They're like, oh, just
to make sure for our records, this is your address.
And I was like yeah, Like all right, you're gonna
let people's no And they were like, oh, you're going
to return this dog to their owners so we don't
have to.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
And I was like, yeah, I will, I will.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Oreo is gonna hang in the back of my car
right now, drooling all over my my my dashboard.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
My brain.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Will hang out. But I love that you were like,
go home right now. And that's what reminded me of Bear.
They're not Bear telling the dog to go home.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Artemis. I asked her, I was like, where do you live?
And she took me home, and that's my way. Oh
my gosh, her name was Artemis, and I had forgotten
until just I love.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
The synchronicity of that. Yeah, that's amazing. Which was also amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So, like I said, I had got my first binder
in so I was spreading down the street after this dog.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I could not breathe.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I was like, oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Like, take me home. Where do you live?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
So it seems like after Hecate introduced you to Artemis,
that the appearances of artemis is powers or energy was
very much around you.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Nicole. Yeah. Yeah, and it would always be through through
nature and through animals. And there was like this other
incense where I was out on the range and I
had a bull eye and like a dead center in
the middle of this bird target, and a hummingbird just
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comes out of nowhere and lands on my arrow. Okay, no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Because they tend to Like the reason I'm like, what
is because like they tend to hover, they don't land
a whole lot.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
No, it landed down my arrow, and like maybe it
was attractive to the feather, because like I had a
barred feather with green and white. Maybe it was maybe
it liked that. But yeah, like so I would get
all these kind of signs from her through nature and
be like, hey, I want a science. Should I do
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this ritual or should I write this ritual? And then
I'd get like three deer at the number three and
the target, and a hummingbird landing on my arrows, and
and like at full draw, at full draw one time
there was a hummingbird while I was shooting as well.
And yeah, like being able to like just like tell
that dog just just to go home, and from a
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dead from a dead sprint, you know, to a stop
to you know, So anyway.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
That's genuinely wild.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Any any animal actually listening, I'm like, yeah, you listened.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I think what's interesting too is because like you know,
and you and I've talked about this nicle with our
friendship of like you being a patron of Artemis and
then me being Apollo. So my introduction to Apollo was
after I had a spiritual cleansing and then I was
like kept receiving dreams of very sun energy, of soul,
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of so many different symbols that just resonated with Apollo.
And then the next day I woke up from after
like so many sun dermi gy dreams I was like, Okay, Apollo,
if you want me to be a patron of you,
give me another sign.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
And I walked out.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Of my apartment complex at the time, and immediately a
hawk swoops right over my head and I was like, okay,
I'm listening. And that's where I started. So when you
and I started talking, and you know, I've had a
lot of troubles with my own personal femininity because I
think I just always viewed femininity as associated with being weak,
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and I wanted to be anything but weak. But as
I started reading up about Artemis, it was like, you know,
that's what animals do, is that they hide their weaknesses,
to hide their vulnerability, and that's what young girls do.
And that's why she's the protector of young girls.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Thank you for bringing that up.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, that's why I love her association with animals of
the hunt. Yes, because they're also vulnerable.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And and it was very.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Interesting because Nicole, as she hasn't published to the listeners
that are here, thank you for being here. I Nichole
has been very kind and sent me the ritual that
she wrote, and I did it last night during the
full moon, and it was the first moon of the
new year and it was the wolf moon, and I
thought it was very appropriate and it was a very
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interesting experience. I lit my candle to Apollo and asked
him to bless the ritual so I could learn from
his older sister the knowledge that she needed to share
to me. And I think, as I've been dieting on
my journey with Aphrodite and other feminine deities, is how
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powerful femininity can be, the the feminine divine.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yes, and it's been.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
It's a very fascinating journey because it's like feminidity is
anything but weak. And Artemis, what she taught me last
night after conducting the ritual that Nicole wrote, is that
while it's carefree and like a doe bouncing through the wild,
it can be straight like an arrow, very strategic, very focused,
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and so deadly.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Well, it's you know, it's the baby deer going through
the forest, but it's also the black dog.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Yes, and it'll bite as well.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
And I like that the dichotomy of light and dark,
which is funny because it's the whole balance between Apollo
and Artemis.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
And then I think too, with Artemis being of the moon,
there's so many different seasons and phases of the moon.
And then as Nicole, as you spoke with me, this
was the ritual that you sent me. Is the first
ritual that you were planning to write. But the other
rituals that you want to write are inspired by the
different phases of the moon.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Would you like to go into that?
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Or do you want to hold off? Yes?
Speaker 5 (38:39):
I mean so basically, so we'll have I have the
initiation ritual, and then my idea is that there's three
main rituals besides the initiation, and the three that I
have are based off of the waning crescent moon. So
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like a waning like that small sliver right right before
the new moon is the waning crescent bow moon, and
for that it can be used for like seeking justice,
healing hexes curses. But yeah, so like so that's my
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idea is like for like the waning moon to have
kind of those aspects of the ritual, and then like
for a the waxing bow moon that is more for
obtaining your desires or hunting for your desires. Like if
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you wanted to like call on the wolf this or
the spirit medicine of the wolf into your dance, you
could like dance uh in a wolf like way, like
you know, and to invoke those certain qualities of the
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wolf to help you with your path and so and
so like that's you know, kind of where I'm going
with it, and like the full moon is for like
divination work as well as just like being just ecstatically
uh in in her, you know, like just within her
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and just experiencing her. But yeah, so we'll see how
it goes. I've definitely taken my time with it. Like
it's not something that I feel rush to do, but
this is something that she has been wanting me to
uh write and express. So yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
We love.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We love when you get a little little divine intervention
being like you're doing this now and you're.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Like do I have to?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
And you're like, okay, well, okay, yeah, I'm not gonna
fight with you because that seems like a bad idea.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yeah, And that's and I've been there too. And as
I've talked to you too about like with Apollo, and
I think you and I both expressed that there's not
a whole lot of occult documentation about Apollo and Artemis
and that like it's been very it's been great looking
at like the mythology and like the other research done
about Apollo and Artemis.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
But then it's like, where are the rituals? So and
so it's.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Great, you're too busy focusing on like the balance between
the two, and they're like, this is so cool, like
look at how they had the.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
Sun in the movie the research.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, but then they're like, we didn't read the rituals though,
because we're too focused on like.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
How cool ist.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, and so I'm very happy that you are diving
into that and that you know even though you're taking
your time on that, which just shows your dedication to
the goddess and sharing her knowledge. But I would love
to know more about your sound healing probably.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah healing.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
That was what we were going to talk about.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
And we're so easily distracted.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Because you have so much interesting stuff to say. Yeah,
so we'll definitely have to have you back on again.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Yeah, we have more and.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
So many more questions. We we're already forty two minutes
in and we've we've.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Gotten through our questions, which is great, But tell us
about the basics of sound healing.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Because I know nothing about sound healing.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Actually, do you guys want to know how I got
into it first? Or sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So
it actually started with a petition to Hakitay and this
was before I had healing with my shoulder. So I
was suffering from an injury on my left shoulder and
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it was it was kind of you know, putting a
dunt into my life. And I went to physical therapy
for what nine months, and you know, I did everything
the doctors did. It were you know, recommended. I had
like this scan done and they were like, yeah, you're
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you're hurt, but like you're not hurt, hurt and you
don't need surgery. But yeah, it's gonna hurt for a while,
but shoulders take a long time to heal, so you
have to find ways to help yourself. Basically, I'm like,
oh great, okay, thanks sang very helpful.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Happy with my back to with my scoliosis, I was
like thanks best ease.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I yeah, I'm gonna go to full rant about it,
but I do love that our healthcare system is like
you got this, and I'm like, no, that's that's why
I came here. And they're like, have some advil. Buy
that's two hundred dollars and I'm like I could buy
this for twenty dollars for like a bottle twenty dollars
with inflation. So yeah, it's okay, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
So look, I was.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
So I was doing physical therapy and at the end
of it, like most of my shoulder was working, but
I was still getting like a lot of inflammation, and
and it was just you know, it wasn't exactly where
I wanted it to be.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
It's not back to full functionality.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Yeah, so fed up, I did a petition to Heckuitate
and I was like, hey, like I need healing and
I need it bad, Like I like this, this is bad,
Like my shoulder is not healed, It's not where I
want it to be. It's spent nine months. Why am
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I not healing as as much as I should be?
And so I petitioned her. I'm like, can you please
lead me to the healing that I need? And within
a few days a friend of mine invited me out
to my first sound bath and I experienced the this
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sounds from the crystal bowls and the gong and the chimes,
and it was a really amazing experience for my first time.
And there there's a at the end, or towards the end,
there there's a silent period where you kind of just
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like rest and absorb and just like you know, this
is where it's the final process of it is within
the silence of contemplation where things start to come together.
And so in the silence, I was laying down and
(45:42):
I could feel this sensation of like electricity going from
my palms up my arms, you know, through my body
and down my feet as well well. And I was
feeling this thing happened. But then I felt the vibration
(46:09):
and at first I thought it was a vibration like
footsteps of the sound healer coming towards me, but then
I had a vision of Hecate. She she came down
at my at my ear and she told me you
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are exactly where you need to be. And when she
said that, I got more like intense pulses that went
from my hands into where my injury in my shoulder
was and it was a very very focused uh sensation
(46:55):
in my shoulder. And the sound like told us to
like envision ourselves healed, and so I was envisioning myself
like out in the range and being able to shoot
like comfortably and being able to hold the babies comfortably
because I was a nanny at the time, so I
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was like guiding the energy and but it was she
answered me, and and the way that she said it
was like you are exactly where you need to be.
And it wasn't like physically this is where I needed
to be. But I think what she meant was like,
this is a mindset that you need to be in
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order to heal.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
So maybe a little bit physical of just like you're
in the right place at the right time to learn
this as well, but you know.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So after that experience, we all came
out of it and I told her the sound healer
what had happened, and she's like, oh, you had a
healing And I'm like, oh, okay, that's yeah. So when
that happens, so we call it a healing and and yeah,
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it's it's quite it's really amazing. And it was it
was like a like a cellular a massage. Yeah, it's
it's so good.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I mean, these sci fi shows they have, like, you know,
things like sonic showers, where basically it's kind of the
same concept. I think they may not explicitly say that,
but like in that way, like sonic shower, that's what
that would be, you know. So I had never like
kind of put those two things together before where I'm like, oh,
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that is basically what that would be, is that would
just be sound to you know, clean the body and stuff.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
Yeah, so is that what you would say that sound
healing is.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Is its frequency like kind of cleansing, new mind, body spirit.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Yeah, so something it's a harmonious experience and it gently
awakens all parts of ourselves our body, mind, soul, spirit
to facilitate healing and transformation. And sound healing works on
a multi dimensional level. So yeah, so it's it's a
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very transformative, complimentary therapy, and you know, we use all
kinds of instruments for it.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
For for someone like at home listening who also like
doesn't have experience with this, Is there like something you
would recommend as like a first thing to try, just
to like have someone step their toe into it a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
So I mean outside of books.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Or if there's like a video of like a sound
for someone to first just kind of experience it, to
like hear it and see what it does to something
like that too.
Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yeah, you can you can go on YouTube and type
up sound bath, you know, frequency for the heart chakra
or you know, and and a lot of them are
kind of themed and kind of experiment in that way.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Yeah, so you have to be like a specific one
like any of them. You can look at whatever theme
you're looking for.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
Yeah, whatever whatever suits your boat. But I recommend people
actually get it done.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, absolutely. But if people like are nervous about then
they went tested first. I'm like, Okay, look this up
like human interaction.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
That's I know.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Some people are like, let me try this out before
I go full in and get a person to do
this for me.
Speaker 6 (50:43):
That's why I'm like, what what should they like?
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Maybe look up for the first time.
Speaker 4 (50:46):
I think too. Nicole did this like kind of experiment
with me. I was at home one day, it was
my day off, and I was messaging Nicole and she
had messaged me and was like, you should try this.
And it was a meditation that she was doing in
a book. What was the book that you and I
read that you had read that meditation to me, Nicole?
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Do you remember?
Speaker 5 (51:10):
It's The Healing Power of Sound?
Speaker 4 (51:12):
So Nicole read for me because I learned best through audio.
So Nicole and I both have taken Sorcery to Hecata,
which also comes out in February by Jason Miller. Definitely
take it if you're interested about learning in depth about
totally yeah, totally worth. It definitely changed my life.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
Changed my life so many ways.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
So A Sorcery of Heckata by Jason Miller is just
so fantastic. But so Nicole and I were messaging about
h this and she recommended that I do this, and
so she I will often audio transcribe for myself, like
guided meditations from occult books. But so I asked Nicole
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if she could read this guided meditation to do and
it was about sound healing, and so in the guide
meditation it was uh changed the tone of like you
see something scary and you go ah, and then change
it into.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Oh yeah that and that release.
Speaker 6 (52:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
And I because as much as I've never done this,
this makes so much sense to me.
Speaker 6 (52:20):
Yeah, and I don't know why I haven't gotten into it, honestly.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Honestly, Oh, Alex, it's so great and I feel.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
I could be Alex and I lived together.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
And honestly, the fact that like you don't know that
I do have the stuff.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Oh, I mean, I hear it, but I'm like like
recording Calla's doing kello things in the other room and
it's not my business. Yeah, And I just hear this
like from the other room, and I'm just like, I'm
sitting here editing videos like nice.
Speaker 6 (52:42):
Yeah, cal things.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
I've got my meditation music going on, and I'm doing
my offerings that.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
I'm dancing to Artemis right now. Everything's fine.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
But so so I was just that was last night
and Nicole. But so Nicole sent me her transcribed audio
from this book and I did that where it was
like ah to oh, and I played.
Speaker 6 (53:05):
A healing frequency.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
In the background, and I felt the great fear that
I had of my core abandonment issues come up, and
it was like the primal fear that you have of
losing everyone around you. And it was like yeah, and
it was like the A and I like and it's
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sorry to.
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Get this is so my alley because like.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Not to dump too much, but like I've been doing
a lot of em DR and therapy, which is rapid
eye movements which also.
Speaker 6 (53:39):
Like helps you push things, so it's long.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Term memory and it doesn't hurt you anymore.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
So yes, So the sound that I did sounded exactly
like my grandmother's scream when she found out my brother died.
Like not to get too dark, sorry, but like it
was like that deep talky sorry to deep talk full
metal Trauma.
Speaker 6 (54:00):
What did I say?
Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (54:02):
Oh what was ull Trauma Alchemy? Trauma Alchemist.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
I'm a huge anime nerd and so it was my partner.
But so the primal noise that I made was the
ah and it was the fear of losing everyone around
me and my core abandonment issues coming up, and then
matching it to the holy frequency of the sound audio
or the sound frequency that Nicole recommended that I play.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
So it was like ah, oh oh full Trauma Alchemist.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yeah, Full Trauma Alchemist, Thank you, alex uh. And the
release that I felt was the transmussion of energies, of
that primal fear that we feel into something divine and holy,
and that is.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Like that pretty much exactly what I feel when I
do amdr It's it's taking something that that hurts such
a such a deep level and turning into feeling like
you're being covered in glowing golden honey. It was the
only way I can describe it was just dripping down
your being and just soaking in, you know, sherifcrows. I
want to soak up the sun. It's that but in
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a literal, physical, emotional sense. And I think that's what
I felt was it was like that, it's so Cindy,
your bone it was.
Speaker 6 (55:22):
It was sharp.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
And and so so just black and harsh, but then
it was transmuted into something.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Pure and limonal and golden and silver transmutated.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
If you want to get full trauma.
Speaker 6 (55:38):
Yes, full trauma.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
Alchemist here and that and Nicole, you and I have
talked about this of like, I feel like even I
had that predisposition of oh, sound healing acupuncture is very
woohoo new age, but that I was like, oh my god,
this makes so much sense.
Speaker 3 (55:56):
That's the fine thing.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
I've never tried it because I was like, oh, it's
this new age thing, like I don't know a lot
about it. And I was Alex, that was the most
horrible Monday I've ever felt in my life. Well, I
was like, I don't know enough about it, Like I
don't know this applies to my life. So what I
have experienced that I just remembered through talking about this
is when I was in Denver last year. It was
this big wild show and one of the things that
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happened there was there was a drone choir, which if
you've never experienced a drone choir, at least this one.
So drunk choir is normally everyone has a different note
and they've got heaphenes in and they're all harmonizing, but
they're all separated, and this one, they were separated and
they were walking around the room, so people were joining
in could not hear the notes, but they would harmonize
with the person that they could hear, and so they
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were walking around, stepping around, and people would join in
with them, and so it was just like it would
change through these different notes, and you could feel sort
of the whole community starting to slowly harmonize and kind
of synchronize on this same frequency.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
And it was just like such a release.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
When it was just like h and yeah, we was
just like, oh, okay, we've all kind of aligned and
we're all on the same page now. Even though we
haven't spoken a word, all we've done is ah.
Speaker 4 (57:08):
I think that reminds me of what you and I've
talked about, Nicole, of like you doing some of your
mantras in the morning, it's like you feel being connected
to the community. And I think what you've mentioned in
your sound healing practice, Nicole of like get tapping into
that full holistic approach, of like tapping into the world
and that whole community sphere. Is that kind of what
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you would say with Alex's experience.
Speaker 3 (57:37):
Oh we might have lost year again. Oh no, Nicole,
are you with us.
Speaker 6 (57:45):
All the zoom?
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Oh? Oh the call actually dropped that time. Well, we're
at the end of the hour, so I guess we'll
wrap here. We've got so many more questions for Nicole,
but that just means we'll have to have her back.
We'll have her back because we got through like three
of our loving questions that we had pre typed out,
which was even with room for improvisation. So all right, Well,
(58:08):
we're gonna go ahead and sign off from Strange Talk
for the night because we lost Nicole, and I'm gonna
call her back after this to make sure she's good.
Speaker 6 (58:17):
I messaged her KLA. Do you know where can people?
Speaker 2 (58:21):
Is there a way that people can check out things
Nicole is working on?
Speaker 4 (58:24):
Nicole is very active on Facebook. Her and her husband
both do wonderful magic boxes that coincide with ceremonial magic,
and so definitely look out for her online. And I
wrote about my full experience on the yesterday of the
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introduction to Artemis on my blog The Contemporary Mystic. Yeah,
so definitely check out out the.
Speaker 6 (58:53):
Call her back.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
I'm gonna ask her if there's some way that I
should check out some sound healings so I can check
it out before we talk to her again. He's like, well,
I'm g no, no, Okay, Well, we're gonna go ahead
and sign up from strange Tuck because we're at that
alp of the hour and we'll have her back for another.
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Episode because we have so many more questions.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yes, we're gonna go ahead and sign off. Good night
and good luck. H you are listening to radio, wrote
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Speaker 2 (01:55):
You're a co host tonight, that's I'm a co host
tonight's day night. Yeah, and then we have a very
special guest tonight. If you would like to introduce yourself.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
And I am a.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Oh you still there?
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Oh there we go.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, sometimes I'm going to give you but yeah, if
you would like to reintroduce yourself, it is working now,
Sorry about that, Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yeah. Hi, my name is Nicole. I'm a sound healer
and a colpist.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, and uh Cala Cala has known you for a
while I am just meeting you, but we just thought
you would be a very very interesting guest because sound
healing is like way up our alley here, that's right
up in the Strange Talk niche Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
And then since I've been a practitioner since I was nineteen,
so about seven years now, and then obviously, like I
know your work and I think your work is a
sound has just been so fascinating to watch unfold, and
I just wanted to have you on the show and
interview you and ask you a couple of questions such as,
(03:12):
what is your first initial experience with magic, Nicole, and
just kind of go into more of like your detail
about your personal practice.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Sure, okay, so like first initial experience doing magic or
like first magical Okay, well anyways, yeah, yeah, so my
first initial experience is actually kind of spooky. Yeah, I know,
(03:40):
you guys like spooky stories.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
We do love a spooky strange story.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yes, all right, So I'm thirty two now, so this
was when I was sixteen, so yeah, it's been time.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, So my experience with magic started out when I
was sixteen. I turned sixteen, and I just like woke
up one day and I didn't like my boyfriend, and
it was just like the feeling of like just wakefulness,
(04:21):
where like there's more to just watching football on a
Saturday night or I don't know, I was just feeling something.
So I actually just broke up with him and yeah, right,
and he was just so dull and just like in
(04:44):
the video games, and I had more like questions, like
you know, and we just weren't mashing very well, so.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Happier hobbies but also like I don't know, be focused
on growth or having like interests that like involved the
rest of the world.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, So after that happened, I started seeing the number
eleven eleven, oh eleve it like the sequence. Yeah, it's
a weird, strange but incredibly common thing that people apparently
have reported as somewhat paranormal. And yeah, so I started
(05:27):
seeing this number like eleven everywhere, not just like on time,
like on the clock or whatever, but like you know,
and receipts and license plates, and it was just weird
and it wasn't It was like it was like I
(05:48):
wasn't even like thinking about it, and it would be
there and I'm like, just what is going on with
this number? And I just got so frustrated. And where
did I And I'm like, okay, like this is happening
like a lot. Sorry, my room buz is going going
to go off.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
You're good now.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Your room bud just has a couple of things to say.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
The room bus like, oh, I'm very intrigued by the number.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Eleven, and so yeah that I started seeing it, and
I got frustrated and I looked it up and I
didn't really get the answer that like I know now
that it's like the call to the great work, but
basically it was like, oh, you're waking up. It's like
(06:34):
this new age kind of definition of like waking up
into the world, and so like it reflected a lot
of like what I was feeling before, you know, before
I broke up with my boyfriend at the time, and
seeing that number and so I was like, oh, okay,
(06:55):
so I guess I'm waking up. And so then naturally
I just started getting into meditation and chakra work, Like
I found some really cool exercises online that were like
(07:15):
energetic opening chakras and like a lot of like energy
kind of work that I just naturally started working with.
But then that was going really well, and I was
like making energy balls and all this kind of cool stuff.
(07:40):
But then I started randomly waking up at three thirty
three oh in the morning.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I yeah, had that happened for a while where I
kept wing up it like three exactly where I went
the same weird It creeps me out when that happens.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Yeah, So I started waking up about three thirty three
in the morning, and for a while I didn't really
think too much about it. There's like this thing, that
natural thing that happens with the human mind where it
just kind of shifts a little bit and sometimes you
can wake up around that time. Yeah, but yeah, I
(08:24):
just like would wake up at this time, and like
gradually I noticed that my energy that I was like
working on like so hard with my meditations and my
just like the chakra work and you know stuff like that,
Like I just started feeling like not energetic at all,
(08:49):
like you know, like a drain drink, like completely completely
drained of energy. And so, h yeah, that was weird.
And then what happened, what woke me up to what
actually was happening, was, Uh, I was actually in a
(09:12):
dream and there was a shadowy figure uh that you know,
pushed me up against the wall and took my energy
from from my uh my chi, my center, you know
(09:33):
where the chi sits. So it was like the sense
cool sensation like going in and like I could feel
it all happening when, you know, in the dream. And
I tried to wake myself up. Usually I can control
myself through you know, dreams and wake myself up when
(09:53):
they're bad. But for some reason I could not. I
could not make up, and yeah, I was like almost
like I was in the state of paralysis.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You know, so hate paralysis like that.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Oh yeah, like who knows, maybe yeah, maybe maybe it
was a combination or whatever. But this is like where
it gets kind of spooky.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yell, the number Quincid's is already pretty spooky.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, And having a shadow demon push you against the
wall in your.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Dream, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Might be spooky.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Oh my god. So like it was like taking my energy.
And then somehow I was thinking in my dream because
I was raised Catholic, so I knew the angel. So
I was thinking in my dream of the name Michael.
And in that moment of just even thinking the name Michael,
(10:55):
the angel, it almost like pushed back a little bit.
And then I I was able to like a little
bit of breath that I had, I was able to
actually like scream for the angel Michael, and yeah, so
I called him in my dream and then everything was
(11:16):
just on fire all around me. There was just fire
like everywhere, and then I woke up. Guess what time?
I woke up at.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Three thirty three?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Maybe just like a just a.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Wild guess yeah, oh gosh, so.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah, I woke up at three thirty three.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And you said you were sixteen when this happened to you.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And this was my first
experience with the spooky spooky, which led me yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
The spooky, yes, the spooking.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, that was my first experience with the paranormal. So
I immediately started when I noticed the clock, I immediately
started praying to Michael, like and you know, consciously, and
he came in like immediately I felt him right there,
(12:20):
and he was like, Nicole, you are like incredibly special,
like your light is incredibly incredibly bright, and you need
to protect yourself. You need to learn how to protect yourself.
And I'm like, what the heck does that even mean?
Like protect myself from what? And then obviously I was like,
(12:43):
oh so now you know and yeah, yeah, so well
that was happening. While he was telling me this, I
was also like praying to Raphael, and I was, you know,
as I was praying, like I could feel the heat
returning to to my body, like because when I woke up,
(13:06):
it felt like the physical sensation like I brought it
out with me, Like it was really creepy.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, it's really really spooky. Like as far as ways
to first experience that, that's a really intense first experience.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, especially with the paranormal. And then I know that
you and I've talked about that. That's that was your introduction,
and then you started developing your ceremonial magic background.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Right, oh did we lose you again?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Oh my god, my freaking my earbud like dropped down.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
No no, no, yeah, And we can also edit it out.
So here, let me ask the question again. So that
experience kind of was the catalyst for you starting your
own magical practice to protect yourself, but then your ceremonial
magic background as well.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Right, yeah, So after that experience, I went online and
I came across the Lusser Vanishing ritual of the Pentagram
and l yeah, and I really liked it because like
(14:37):
it had the angels and I was like sweet, like
I prayed to like two of these angels last night,
like I'm good. I really liked how that was and
and it so my intuition was like do this first,
do the LVRP first, and then I found this like
exorcism ritual with seawater and and then like I also
(15:05):
like incorporated like this fiery light that was like pulsing
through me after the lb RP, Like it was like
this like fire like it. Okay, so actually you guys
want to know what happened. So this gets this gets
even creepier.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh okay, this is well, well I'm strange, weird and paranormal.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Let's go all right. So I was like doing this
research and like coming up with like a ritualistic plant
and like you know, get rid of this thing. And
I had my friend Liz. I called her. I'm like
and it was also like a Friday. I'm like, hey,
(15:49):
you want to come over? You know like how I
was like saying like I kept waking up at this time,
like I know what's happening. I think it's like an entity.
And she's like, oh, I think it's an entity, and
she's like okay, and I'm like, like I don't really
need your like spiritual help or anything, but like it
(16:10):
would be great to just have you there in case,
like something really really bad happens. There's a priest like
next door, like across the street, and he may be
really confused, but who knows, maybe he can help you.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Okay, you're already in that, like in that alone. That's
why you're surviving the horror movie. Most people are like
I got this, and I'm like, you're gonna die. No,
you are going to die or end up possessed yep, yep.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
And like I and I've told you, Nicole.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I had a similar experience with my apartment when I
was seventeen, and I absolutely called everybody that I knew
that would believe me to be like, this is happening
and I'm assaulting my window sills and if something happens,
this is what's happening.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
So I'm glad you had that with Liz too.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
To be fair, I also probably wouldn't survive because I'm like,
I'm gonna go investigate it, and I'm like, hell, that's
how you do. I'm like, you phone a friend. I'm
taking my sault and I'm investigating.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
No, you phone a friend, and.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So I'm taking my sault and investigating it.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
And also bought you phone your friend, your phone your friend.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That would be the correct answer, but I'm always like
I have to confirm it something before I get like
anybody involved, or I'm like, let me make sure there's something.
And I'm not just really tired yet.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
I'm just glad you called Liz.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
So after he called Liz and told about the priests,
what happened next Nicole.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
So, so she comes over and I'm showing her like
my plan, my like virtualistic plan, and I wasn't even
that late at night, and we're like sitting at the
computer and we're just like hanging out kind of joking,
like we're joking right now and talking and kind of
like lightheartedly. And then the room it was a horror movie. Okay,
(17:56):
the room just dropped like five ten degrees and.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
I don't like that, but yeah, I hate that I've
been there.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah, so that happened. And then while like the stuff
was in Q for a print, the light started to
flicker and that was really weird. But like the light
stayed on but it was just kind of cold and
but but then okay, so that's the third thing that
(18:25):
happened again with the number three was my cat at
the time, Callie. She was upstairs, and she came like
down into like the middle of the stairs and let
off this god awful Yeah. I've never heard a cat
(18:50):
make this sound in my life, even even when they're
fighting or and like it was just like an other
worldly yowling sound. So anyways, I don't think it was
my cat, but it might have been. So I never
(19:17):
heard her make that sound, and she never made it
after that, so it was just okay. So I went
over to the stairs and Liz was she got up
right behind me. And when I went over to her
to the stairs, and I'm like, what's up Calli and
(19:39):
and she she's looking up at the ceiling and I
look up and I see it with my own two eyes.
I see this thing go from over my head. It
was behind me, and then it went over my head
and then it chase my cat up the stairs. And
(20:04):
that's when the fiery, uh, fiery magic of the gods
came running through me because I was like, you're not
gonna hurt my cat? What the heck nol. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I turn around and my friend that once, you know,
(20:28):
we we had our you know, her cheeks were filled
with warmth and we were talking and laughing. I turned
around and all of the color from her face is
just completely dropped, and I'm like, did you see that?
And she was like, oh, it was behind you and
(20:52):
it looked like a little it looked I'm scared. It's
just like I'm She's like, Nicole, I will go with
you into every single room of your house, but I
will not go into the basement there.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And I'm like, you never go into the basement. That's
the second rule of how you survive harmony.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Never go in the base.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Okay, well you know what I had to go, and
well you.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You had to, but your friend was smart to not
go in the basement. Friend, she had the backup.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, she didn't have to go.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
It was something that you had to face.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, basically. I So what I did was I
started in my room, I did the LBRP and called
on the angels. I prayed with them and like you know,
envisioned myself like protected and fiery light, and then I
went through the house cleansing the house with this ritual
(21:55):
as well as like envisioning the fire that like I
saw in my dream, the fires of Michael cleansed that
like cleansing every part of the house. So that happened,
and then everything seemed pretty good, like for the majority
of the house seemed really good. But then I got
(22:15):
to the point where I had to go into the basement.
And so I went into the basement and I had
it kinned down in there, and when as I descended,
I like envisioned the light like going in and like
piercing the darkness. And so I went down into it
and you know, there was only like a light, one
(22:37):
or two lights on and it was like this stone basement,
and you know there was a part that was like
really really dark, and I went into the darkest spot
and you know, called all the names of God and
you know banished it there in the basement by myself.
(22:59):
I mean, well I wasn't really by myself. I was
with the angels too. But after that the house got
a lot lighter and I didn't wake up at three
thirty three ever again. So yeah, so that happened. That
was my kind of cool experience.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
It at least stopped you from waking up at three
thirty three, but like I hate laterally by fire though, Yeah, goodness,
bless bless the saint Michael.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, well, I like, you know, obviously growing up Catholic
and then starting to dive into ceremonial magic, but then
you created your own relationship with Hecate and Artemis. So
I performed the initiation ritual that you wrote about that yesterday.
I did do that yesterday. It was the wolf moon.
(23:56):
Aw woo woo woo.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Here, let's try to figure out what though it was.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
All right, are we we countdown?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, let's all do it together.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, three, two, one two, You're welcome to my neighbors.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yes, but explain the rituals that you wrote to honor
the goddess Artemis. And then it kind of explained your
relationship with Artemis.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Yeah, okay, so as you know, but not probably not
in every any of our listeners. But so I'm I'm
into archery and I have been doing it for like
thirteen years now, and but I never really like I
(24:44):
never was really into her, and and how I found
her was actually through Hekka And yeah, so it was
actually a night a New Moon on night and I
(25:04):
was like, you know, talking with the spirits and I
heard he could I say, like, you know, like you're
you're really good with archery. I want you to seek
out artemis. You need to seek out artemis like this
is this is your next thing that you need to do.
And so I was like, oh, okay, so I'll seek
(25:25):
her out. And anyways, so the way that I did
it was I I figured out that you know, she's
a goddess of music as well as dance as well
as her brother, and she leads the graces out to dance.
(25:51):
She's like considered one of the finest dancers, like you know.
I was like, well, what if I, you know, start
this dance ritual to her to like you know and
enticer into my life. And it seemed to really be
(26:16):
like really helpful learning with her, Like she she she
started like showing up like at the range with me,
like after the first initiation. Yeah yeah, so yeah, Like
(26:38):
for example, like there would be like three deer at
the at the at the target number three, or there
would be like I would do like a ritual to
her and like be doing like the shape shifting into
a serpent through the new men, and then I would
(27:01):
see like a snake the next day at the range.
And so she would like communicate to me through nature.
And and so especially when I would when I would shoot.
Before I lived up in like northern Seattle, I lived
(27:24):
closer towards like the Cascade area, and it was more
like farm land, and so I had a lot of
area to kind of shoot. I just shot off a
deck and like one day I was just shoot to
(27:44):
my bow, and I see, like I had these two
deer that would visit me, and because like I feed
them apples.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
This is the most I ever heard.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
My life is like a Disney story.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's weird, which just just for the listeners who were
not familiar with us artists is associated with like you know,
the hunt, and so very much with like deer and
snakes and like any any creature you could possibly find
in the woods. That's like that's artemis, especially if you're
feeding them apples.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah. So I had these two deer and they would
just like kind of hang out in the yard. And
they were both male, and but they would hang out
in the yard and and I would just shoot and
they'd be like in the yard and just be like chilling,
like hey, like, you know, I'm not afraid of you.
(28:38):
And so I saw my deer running up the driveway
and and they were like running, and I'm like, why
are they running like that? And right behind them was
a black dog and so, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Whenever I hear black dog, I'm a black dog. I'm
a me like oh like a grim.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
So, so the black dog was chasing the deer and
I make eye contact with the deer or the dog. Sorry,
there's a delivery.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
There was a deer, there was a gone on, there's
a lot of there's a lot of creatures.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
There's a lot of animals here.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, there's a delivery at the door right now. But
my husband's got it.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Three ds. We got the deer, the dog, the delivery.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
So you know, this is like, you know, so triple triple,
the triple the d Okay, so.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Amazing.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
So yeah, so like I'm just like I make eye
contact with the dog, and like I went down to
the end of the target where the target was, and
I look off and I'm like why, And I made
I contact it and I pointed at it and I'm
like you go, whoa now, And that dog stopped and
(30:11):
it just stopped, like directly in its tracks, like trying
to chase this deeer, and it went straight home. And
I'm like, oh my gosh, cow, I don't even know
the dog, doesn't even know me, but you.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Just reminded me of a story. I this is a
very quick story. Is the only reason I'm interrupting you.
I where I used to live when I first moved
to Lexington. I once saw this dog running down the
street and I like, it was the day that I
got my first binder in the mail, so I had
put it on and I saw a dog loose in
the street. So I sprint it off trying to catch
(30:46):
this dog because I was like, oh my gosh, you're
gonna get hit. And this dog got just barely clipped
by a car, but in a way because this dog
was like a pipple, it was like meatball dog. And
so I ran up and she was like limping because
her her paul got clipped. Turns out it didn't actually
hurt her. She was just like oh. But when I
walked up to her and I grabbed her tag because
(31:07):
I was like, where do you live? I literally went
where do you live? And I saw the tag said Artemis. Oh,
my god, and I went to flip it over while
I asked where do you live? And she just started
walking and I followed her, and she walked me to
her house, where I was able to knock on the
door to get her owners to come get her. That's
amazing and that's the only reason I remember it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Where I went.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I just remembered that dog's name was Artemis, and I
was like, please keep your dog out of this, and
they went, oh, we had let her in the backyard,
not realizing the back gate was open, and I went, oh.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Who very glad she didn't get clipped by a car.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
But like she walked home like normal, like she was
like limping for a second, and then when I asked
where do you live, she just went I just walked home.
I went, are you messing? I don't know what's happening.
I'm just going to take you home. You're showing me
where homie is.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
I'm going to follow you.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, you just reminded me of that because I hadn't
remembered until now that her name was Artemis.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
I love that you have that story, Alex.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
And then so Alex knows this, as you said, Nicole,
that everything about this is very Disney Princess.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
You are the Disney Prince. I am not.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
My mother Growing up, always joked that I was blessed
by Saint Francis because stray animals come and find me.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
They do.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
That happens all the time. Alex has been there for
four different animals. The Humane Society knows my ad.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
They probably have you on a list and think that
you're like kidnapping animals.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
They had to verify our address last time. I went
to make sure it was accurate. They're like, oh, just
to make sure for our records, this is your address.
And I was like yeah, Like all right, you're gonna
let people's no And they were like, oh, you're going
to return this dog to their owners so we don't
have to.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
And I was like, yeah, I will, I will.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Oreo is gonna hang in the back of my car
right now, drooling all over my my my dashboard.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
My brain.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Will hang out. But I love that you were like,
go home right now. And that's what reminded me of Bear.
They're not Bear telling the dog to go home.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Artemis. I asked her, I was like, where do you live?
And she took me home, and that's my way. Oh
my gosh, her name was Artemis, and I had forgotten
until just I love.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
The synchronicity of that. Yeah, that's amazing. Which was also amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So, like I said, I had got my first binder
in so I was spreading down the street after this dog.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I could not breathe.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I was like, oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Like, take me home. Where do you live?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
So it seems like after Hecate introduced you to Artemis,
that the appearances of artemis is powers or energy was
very much around you.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Nicole. Yeah. Yeah, and it would always be through through
nature and through animals. And there was like this other
incense where I was out on the range and I
had a bull eye and like a dead center in
the middle of this bird target, and a hummingbird just
(34:01):
comes out of nowhere and lands on my arrow. Okay, no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Because they tend to Like the reason I'm like, what
is because like they tend to hover, they don't land
a whole lot.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
No, it landed down my arrow, and like maybe it
was attractive to the feather, because like I had a
barred feather with green and white. Maybe it was maybe
it liked that. But yeah, like so I would get
all these kind of signs from her through nature and
be like, hey, I want a science. Should I do
(34:38):
this ritual or should I write this ritual? And then
I'd get like three deer at the number three and
the target, and a hummingbird landing on my arrows, and
and like at full draw, at full draw one time
there was a hummingbird while I was shooting as well.
And yeah, like being able to like just like tell
that dog just just to go home, and from a
(35:01):
dead from a dead sprint, you know, to a stop
to you know, So anyway.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
That's genuinely wild.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Any any animal actually listening, I'm like, yeah, you listened.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I think what's interesting too is because like you know,
and you and I've talked about this nicle with our
friendship of like you being a patron of Artemis and
then me being Apollo. So my introduction to Apollo was
after I had a spiritual cleansing and then I was
like kept receiving dreams of very sun energy, of soul,
(35:37):
of so many different symbols that just resonated with Apollo.
And then the next day I woke up from after
like so many sun dermi gy dreams I was like, Okay, Apollo,
if you want me to be a patron of you,
give me another sign.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
And I walked out.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Of my apartment complex at the time, and immediately a
hawk swoops right over my head and I was like, okay,
I'm listening. And that's where I started. So when you
and I started talking, and you know, I've had a
lot of troubles with my own personal femininity because I
think I just always viewed femininity as associated with being weak,
(36:18):
and I wanted to be anything but weak. But as
I started reading up about Artemis, it was like, you know,
that's what animals do, is that they hide their weaknesses,
to hide their vulnerability, and that's what young girls do.
And that's why she's the protector of young girls.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Thank you for bringing that up.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, that's why I love her association with animals of
the hunt. Yes, because they're also vulnerable.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And and it was very.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Interesting because Nicole, as she hasn't published to the listeners
that are here, thank you for being here. I Nichole
has been very kind and sent me the ritual that
she wrote, and I did it last night during the
full moon, and it was the first moon of the
new year and it was the wolf moon, and I
thought it was very appropriate and it was a very
(37:07):
interesting experience. I lit my candle to Apollo and asked
him to bless the ritual so I could learn from
his older sister the knowledge that she needed to share
to me. And I think, as I've been dieting on
my journey with Aphrodite and other feminine deities, is how
(37:32):
powerful femininity can be, the the feminine divine.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yes, and it's been.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
It's a very fascinating journey because it's like feminidity is
anything but weak. And Artemis, what she taught me last
night after conducting the ritual that Nicole wrote, is that
while it's carefree and like a doe bouncing through the wild,
it can be straight like an arrow, very strategic, very focused,
(38:01):
and so deadly.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Well, it's you know, it's the baby deer going through
the forest, but it's also the black dog.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Yes, and it'll bite as well.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
And I like that the dichotomy of light and dark,
which is funny because it's the whole balance between Apollo
and Artemis.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
And then I think too, with Artemis being of the moon,
there's so many different seasons and phases of the moon.
And then as Nicole, as you spoke with me, this
was the ritual that you sent me. Is the first
ritual that you were planning to write. But the other
rituals that you want to write are inspired by the
different phases of the moon.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Would you like to go into that?
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Or do you want to hold off? Yes?
Speaker 5 (38:39):
I mean so basically, so we'll have I have the
initiation ritual, and then my idea is that there's three
main rituals besides the initiation, and the three that I
have are based off of the waning crescent moon. So
(39:03):
like a waning like that small sliver right right before
the new moon is the waning crescent bow moon, and
for that it can be used for like seeking justice,
healing hexes curses. But yeah, so like so that's my
(39:29):
idea is like for like the waning moon to have
kind of those aspects of the ritual, and then like
for a the waxing bow moon that is more for
obtaining your desires or hunting for your desires. Like if
(39:49):
you wanted to like call on the wolf this or
the spirit medicine of the wolf into your dance, you
could like dance uh in a wolf like way, like
you know, and to invoke those certain qualities of the
(40:09):
wolf to help you with your path and so and
so like that's you know, kind of where I'm going
with it, and like the full moon is for like
divination work as well as just like being just ecstatically
uh in in her, you know, like just within her
(40:32):
and just experiencing her. But yeah, so we'll see how
it goes. I've definitely taken my time with it. Like
it's not something that I feel rush to do, but
this is something that she has been wanting me to
uh write and express. So yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
We love.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We love when you get a little little divine intervention
being like you're doing this now and you're.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Like do I have to?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
And you're like, okay, well, okay, yeah, I'm not gonna
fight with you because that seems like a bad idea.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yeah, And that's and I've been there too. And as
I've talked to you too about like with Apollo, and
I think you and I both expressed that there's not
a whole lot of occult documentation about Apollo and Artemis
and that like it's been very it's been great looking
at like the mythology and like the other research done
about Apollo and Artemis.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
But then it's like, where are the rituals? So and
so it's.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Great, you're too busy focusing on like the balance between
the two, and they're like, this is so cool, like
look at how they had the.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
Sun in the movie the research.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, but then they're like, we didn't read the rituals though,
because we're too focused on like.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
How cool ist.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, and so I'm very happy that you are diving
into that and that you know even though you're taking
your time on that, which just shows your dedication to
the goddess and sharing her knowledge. But I would love
to know more about your sound healing probably.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah healing.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
That was what we were going to talk about.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
And we're so easily distracted.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Because you have so much interesting stuff to say. Yeah,
so we'll definitely have to have you back on again.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Yeah, we have more and.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
So many more questions. We we're already forty two minutes
in and we've we've.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Gotten through our questions, which is great, But tell us
about the basics of sound healing.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Because I know nothing about sound healing.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Actually, do you guys want to know how I got
into it first? Or sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So
it actually started with a petition to Hakitay and this
was before I had healing with my shoulder. So I
was suffering from an injury on my left shoulder and
(42:47):
it was it was kind of you know, putting a
dunt into my life. And I went to physical therapy
for what nine months, and you know, I did everything
the doctors did. It were you know, recommended. I had
like this scan done and they were like, yeah, you're
(43:08):
you're hurt, but like you're not hurt, hurt and you
don't need surgery. But yeah, it's gonna hurt for a while,
but shoulders take a long time to heal, so you
have to find ways to help yourself. Basically, I'm like,
oh great, okay, thanks sang very helpful.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Happy with my back to with my scoliosis, I was
like thanks best ease.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I yeah, I'm gonna go to full rant about it,
but I do love that our healthcare system is like
you got this, and I'm like, no, that's that's why
I came here. And they're like, have some advil. Buy
that's two hundred dollars and I'm like I could buy
this for twenty dollars for like a bottle twenty dollars
with inflation. So yeah, it's okay, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
So look, I was.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
So I was doing physical therapy and at the end
of it, like most of my shoulder was working, but
I was still getting like a lot of inflammation, and
and it was just you know, it wasn't exactly where
I wanted it to be.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
It's not back to full functionality.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Yeah, so fed up, I did a petition to Heckuitate
and I was like, hey, like I need healing and
I need it bad, Like I like this, this is bad,
Like my shoulder is not healed, It's not where I
want it to be. It's spent nine months. Why am
(44:34):
I not healing as as much as I should be?
And so I petitioned her. I'm like, can you please
lead me to the healing that I need? And within
a few days a friend of mine invited me out
to my first sound bath and I experienced the this
(45:00):
sounds from the crystal bowls and the gong and the chimes,
and it was a really amazing experience for my first time.
And there there's a at the end, or towards the end,
there there's a silent period where you kind of just
(45:21):
like rest and absorb and just like you know, this
is where it's the final process of it is within
the silence of contemplation where things start to come together.
And so in the silence, I was laying down and
(45:42):
I could feel this sensation of like electricity going from
my palms up my arms, you know, through my body
and down my feet as well well. And I was
feeling this thing happened. But then I felt the vibration
(46:09):
and at first I thought it was a vibration like
footsteps of the sound healer coming towards me, but then
I had a vision of Hecate. She she came down
at my at my ear and she told me you
(46:31):
are exactly where you need to be. And when she
said that, I got more like intense pulses that went
from my hands into where my injury in my shoulder
was and it was a very very focused uh sensation
(46:55):
in my shoulder. And the sound like told us to
like envision ourselves healed, and so I was envisioning myself
like out in the range and being able to shoot
like comfortably and being able to hold the babies comfortably
because I was a nanny at the time, so I
(47:17):
was like guiding the energy and but it was she
answered me, and and the way that she said it
was like you are exactly where you need to be.
And it wasn't like physically this is where I needed
to be. But I think what she meant was like,
this is a mindset that you need to be in
(47:38):
order to heal.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
So maybe a little bit physical of just like you're
in the right place at the right time to learn
this as well, but you know.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So after that experience, we all came
out of it and I told her the sound healer
what had happened, and she's like, oh, you had a
healing And I'm like, oh, okay, that's yeah. So when
that happens, so we call it a healing and and yeah,
(48:09):
it's it's quite it's really amazing. And it was it
was like a like a cellular a massage. Yeah, it's
it's so good.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I mean, these sci fi shows they have, like, you know,
things like sonic showers, where basically it's kind of the
same concept. I think they may not explicitly say that,
but like in that way, like sonic shower, that's what
that would be, you know. So I had never like
kind of put those two things together before where I'm like, oh,
(48:43):
that is basically what that would be, is that would
just be sound to you know, clean the body and stuff.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
Yeah, so is that what you would say that sound
healing is.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Is its frequency like kind of cleansing, new mind, body spirit.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Yeah, so something it's a harmonious experience and it gently
awakens all parts of ourselves our body, mind, soul, spirit
to facilitate healing and transformation. And sound healing works on
a multi dimensional level. So yeah, so it's it's a
(49:21):
very transformative, complimentary therapy, and you know, we use all
kinds of instruments for it.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
For for someone like at home listening who also like
doesn't have experience with this, Is there like something you
would recommend as like a first thing to try, just
to like have someone step their toe into it a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
So I mean outside of books.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Or if there's like a video of like a sound
for someone to first just kind of experience it, to
like hear it and see what it does to something
like that too.
Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yeah, you can you can go on YouTube and type
up sound bath, you know, frequency for the heart chakra
or you know, and and a lot of them are
kind of themed and kind of experiment in that way.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Yeah, so you have to be like a specific one
like any of them. You can look at whatever theme
you're looking for.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
Yeah, whatever whatever suits your boat. But I recommend people
actually get it done.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, absolutely. But if people like are nervous about then
they went tested first. I'm like, Okay, look this up
like human interaction.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
That's I know.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Some people are like, let me try this out before
I go full in and get a person to do
this for me.
Speaker 6 (50:43):
That's why I'm like, what what should they like?
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Maybe look up for the first time.
Speaker 4 (50:46):
I think too. Nicole did this like kind of experiment
with me. I was at home one day, it was
my day off, and I was messaging Nicole and she
had messaged me and was like, you should try this.
And it was a meditation that she was doing in
a book. What was the book that you and I
read that you had read that meditation to me, Nicole?
(51:09):
Do you remember?
Speaker 5 (51:10):
It's The Healing Power of Sound?
Speaker 4 (51:12):
So Nicole read for me because I learned best through audio.
So Nicole and I both have taken Sorcery to Hecata,
which also comes out in February by Jason Miller. Definitely
take it if you're interested about learning in depth about
totally yeah, totally worth. It definitely changed my life.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
Changed my life so many ways.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
So A Sorcery of Heckata by Jason Miller is just
so fantastic. But so Nicole and I were messaging about
h this and she recommended that I do this, and
so she I will often audio transcribe for myself, like
guided meditations from occult books. But so I asked Nicole
(51:52):
if she could read this guided meditation to do and
it was about sound healing, and so in the guide
meditation it was uh changed the tone of like you
see something scary and you go ah, and then change
it into.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Oh yeah that and that release.
Speaker 6 (52:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
And I because as much as I've never done this,
this makes so much sense to me.
Speaker 6 (52:20):
Yeah, and I don't know why I haven't gotten into it, honestly.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Honestly, Oh, Alex, it's so great and I feel.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
I could be Alex and I lived together.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
And honestly, the fact that like you don't know that
I do have the stuff.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Oh, I mean, I hear it, but I'm like like
recording Calla's doing kello things in the other room and
it's not my business. Yeah, And I just hear this
like from the other room, and I'm just like, I'm
sitting here editing videos like nice.
Speaker 6 (52:42):
Yeah, cal things.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
I've got my meditation music going on, and I'm doing
my offerings that.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
I'm dancing to Artemis right now. Everything's fine.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
But so so I was just that was last night
and Nicole. But so Nicole sent me her transcribed audio
from this book and I did that where it was
like ah to oh, and I played.
Speaker 6 (53:05):
A healing frequency.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
In the background, and I felt the great fear that
I had of my core abandonment issues come up, and
it was like the primal fear that you have of
losing everyone around you. And it was like yeah, and
it was like the A and I like and it's
(53:29):
sorry to.
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Get this is so my alley because like.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Not to dump too much, but like I've been doing
a lot of em DR and therapy, which is rapid
eye movements which also.
Speaker 6 (53:39):
Like helps you push things, so it's long.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Term memory and it doesn't hurt you anymore.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
So yes, So the sound that I did sounded exactly
like my grandmother's scream when she found out my brother died.
Like not to get too dark, sorry, but like it
was like that deep talky sorry to deep talk full
metal Trauma.
Speaker 6 (54:00):
What did I say?
Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (54:02):
Oh what was ull Trauma Alchemy? Trauma Alchemist.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
I'm a huge anime nerd and so it was my partner.
But so the primal noise that I made was the
ah and it was the fear of losing everyone around
me and my core abandonment issues coming up, and then
matching it to the holy frequency of the sound audio
or the sound frequency that Nicole recommended that I play.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
So it was like ah, oh oh full Trauma Alchemist.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yeah, Full Trauma Alchemist, Thank you, alex uh. And the
release that I felt was the transmussion of energies, of
that primal fear that we feel into something divine and holy,
and that is.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Like that pretty much exactly what I feel when I
do amdr It's it's taking something that that hurts such
a such a deep level and turning into feeling like
you're being covered in glowing golden honey. It was the
only way I can describe it was just dripping down
your being and just soaking in, you know, sherifcrows. I
want to soak up the sun. It's that but in
(55:12):
a literal, physical, emotional sense. And I think that's what
I felt was it was like that, it's so Cindy,
your bone it was.
Speaker 6 (55:22):
It was sharp.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
And and so so just black and harsh, but then
it was transmuted into something.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Pure and limonal and golden and silver transmutated.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
If you want to get full trauma.
Speaker 6 (55:38):
Yes, full trauma.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
Alchemist here and that and Nicole, you and I have
talked about this of like, I feel like even I
had that predisposition of oh, sound healing acupuncture is very
woohoo new age, but that I was like, oh my god,
this makes so much sense.
Speaker 3 (55:56):
That's the fine thing.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
I've never tried it because I was like, oh, it's
this new age thing, like I don't know a lot
about it. And I was Alex, that was the most
horrible Monday I've ever felt in my life. Well, I
was like, I don't know enough about it, Like I
don't know this applies to my life. So what I
have experienced that I just remembered through talking about this
is when I was in Denver last year. It was
this big wild show and one of the things that
(56:18):
happened there was there was a drone choir, which if
you've never experienced a drone choir, at least this one.
So drunk choir is normally everyone has a different note
and they've got heaphenes in and they're all harmonizing, but
they're all separated, and this one, they were separated and
they were walking around the room, so people were joining
in could not hear the notes, but they would harmonize
with the person that they could hear, and so they
(56:40):
were walking around, stepping around, and people would join in
with them, and so it was just like it would
change through these different notes, and you could feel sort
of the whole community starting to slowly harmonize and kind
of synchronize on this same frequency.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
And it was just like such a release.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
When it was just like h and yeah, we was
just like, oh, okay, we've all kind of aligned and
we're all on the same page now. Even though we
haven't spoken a word, all we've done is ah.
Speaker 4 (57:08):
I think that reminds me of what you and I've
talked about, Nicole, of like you doing some of your
mantras in the morning, it's like you feel being connected
to the community. And I think what you've mentioned in
your sound healing practice, Nicole of like get tapping into
that full holistic approach, of like tapping into the world
and that whole community sphere. Is that kind of what
(57:30):
you would say with Alex's experience.
Speaker 3 (57:37):
Oh we might have lost year again. Oh no, Nicole,
are you with us.
Speaker 6 (57:45):
All the zoom?
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Oh? Oh the call actually dropped that time. Well, we're
at the end of the hour, so I guess we'll
wrap here. We've got so many more questions for Nicole,
but that just means we'll have to have her back.
We'll have her back because we got through like three
of our loving questions that we had pre typed out,
which was even with room for improvisation. So all right, Well,
(58:08):
we're gonna go ahead and sign off from Strange Talk
for the night because we lost Nicole, and I'm gonna
call her back after this to make sure she's good.
Speaker 6 (58:17):
I messaged her KLA. Do you know where can people?
Speaker 2 (58:21):
Is there a way that people can check out things
Nicole is working on?
Speaker 4 (58:24):
Nicole is very active on Facebook. Her and her husband
both do wonderful magic boxes that coincide with ceremonial magic,
and so definitely look out for her online. And I
wrote about my full experience on the yesterday of the
(58:47):
introduction to Artemis on my blog The Contemporary Mystic. Yeah,
so definitely check out out the.
Speaker 6 (58:53):
Call her back.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
I'm gonna ask her if there's some way that I
should check out some sound healings so I can check
it out before we talk to her again. He's like, well,
I'm g no, no, Okay, Well, we're gonna go ahead
and sign up from strange Tuck because we're at that
alp of the hour and we'll have her back for another.
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Episode because we have so many more questions.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yes, we're gonna go ahead and sign off. Good night
and good luck. H you are listening to radio, wrote
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