Transforming Pain into Power: Michael Padula's Path to Holistic Wellness

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Welcome to another empowering episode of Strivethree sixty five, your go to source
for conquering life's challenges and thriving nomatter the odds. Whether you're seeking mental,
physical, emotional, or spiritual growth, We're here to help guide you
towards a better life. I'm yourhost, Justin Arnold, coming from the
Amazing Rock Studio. Today on Strivethree sixty five, We're thrilled to welcome
Michael Padullah. He's a trailblazer inthe realm of wellness and pain elimination.

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Michael's unique approach combines cutting edge techniqueswith timeless wisdom to help individuals overcome physical
and emotional barriers. With a deepcommitment to empowering others, He's dedicated his
life to not just alleviating pain,but transforming lives through holistic wellness. Sounds
similar to some of the things wetalk about on here. His work,
deeply rooted in the beliefs that everyonedeserves to live a life free of pain

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full of potential, has inspired colllessindividuals to reclaim their well being and stride
confidently towards their best lives. Sojoin us as we dive into Michael's journey,
uncover his insight and Explorerida we canall live more vibrant, pain free
lives. Now after that humble introduction, Mike, is there anything you'd like
to add? Ah cool man,Well, why don't you tell the guests

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some things maybe that I might haveleft off, like where you're from,
what you're doing when you got started, and we'll start chipping away and just
having a conversation here. Okay.I grew up in New Jersey, Flifting,
New Jersey, not far from GiantsStadium. But I was the kid
with the elementary school. Most ofthe parents were together. My parents were

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divorced. I was well. Afew people had the forced parents. So
I went to school. I wentto kindergarten. I showed up. I
was fat. I had no ideabecause I was an only child and everyone
else is skinny. So I thinkmy mom tried to give me food to
replace my father. I ended upgetting sick. I was a very sickly

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child. Almost did not graduate secondgrade. I had straight a's when I
was out of school. So manydays, Oh my mom, if I
missed one more day at school,he's got to be left back. So
I made it, and everything wasfine, and then my oucolick when I
was about twelve, for I meana tennis racket, a motorcycle, and
I was never home to eat.I was either on the motorcycle in the

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woods or playing tennis. Way startedcoming off, and that's when I started
taking a look into fitness and thewellness. I had already been skiing too,
so I started working out in thegym and school, started paying more
attention to what I ate, startedreading books, and that's how it all
started starting. I'm still sucking.Bought you a tennis racket and motorcycle.

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I'm sorry, Like, that's sorandom, and that's it's pretty neat,
though it's pretty cool. Hopefully youweren't using both at the same time,
though, No, I never thoughtabout that. We didn't met a new
sport here. I'd watched that probablyI don't know anywhere. Yeah, so
that's that's really interesting. So wouldyou say those things shaped who you are
to where you are today. Well, I started realizing I did not want

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to live a life being sick,and while I started losing the weight,
started moving around, I was notsick anymore. So that's where I started
putting two together. I said I'mgoing to live a life. I want
to be healthy and live a bithappy life. So I went to with
to Montclair State College. I studiednutrition and Montclair State that was on the

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low fat movement. Who was atthe beginning little fat sugar, Let's go
Yeah. So I was already workingout in a bodybuilding gym. White was
sixteen and in nutrition are like lowfat, you know, said let's make
I want to be a body boulder, don't want to eat fat? Want
I have we look that body?And I was in pain. I had

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anoint pain, muscle pain. Everythingheard by TIEBEI was twenty two twenty three,
like the younger guys like, whatare you getting old? Like I'm
twenty three O now, Mike,Just so we could so I can get
a time frame on like sixteen twentythree with that how old are you right
now? Just so I can geta like time frame on sixteen and twenty

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three sixty four, You're sixty four, So there you go, Okay years,
Yeah that's me. If anybody elsedoesn't name be like, I don't
care, but I'm always curious oflike I'm trying to think what was going
on in the world and stuff.Like that, so continue. So I
was I was weak. I wasin the gym, but I wasn't strong,
wasn't getting stronger. I was inpain. So I said, you
know what, I need to govegetarian because maybe it's the fat and chicken

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breast. And that didn't work outeither. So in nineteen ninety five I
met Charles Pollock one. He's probablyone of the greatest strength coaches of all
the time. He had more worldrecord holders, more Olympic medalists than anyone,
and I started studying his work.That started going to his seminars.
I interned with him in nineteen ninetyeight and Charles's thing was not just training

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but nutrition. He was looking foranything possible to get his athletes an edge.
So he started doing research and nutritionand brought the nutrition aspect into it.
And he met a guy named doctorEric Serrano. It's a medical doctor
in Ohio, just south side ofColumbus, and Eric worked with the elite

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athletes. He had world record holders, gold medalists using nutrition as a base.
Charles introduced me to Eric, andEric's been my mentor for twenty seven
years, and he said, weneed to get some floodwork on you.
My testosterone level was in toilet.He changed my diet, changed my supplements,

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and I've started getting stronger and movinghad no pain. So I'm sixty
four, I'm pain free. Priorto COVID, my dead lift with five
hundred pounds. I do fourteen tofifty miles Spartan races, which I started
doing twenty seventeenth, So prior totwenty seventeen, I never run across the
park a lot. Oh wow.My first race in twenty seventeen was a

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fourteen mile Spartan race up and downa mountain in New Jersey. So that's
where I am so like, whatgot I mean, you explained a little
bit, but it's just like,you know, was it I mean,
was it just the diet. Wasit changing a mindset shift? Was it

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what you're doing in the gym?Was it something more spiritual? You know?
You know so many people I'm fortythree and I hear it, you
know, and it sounds like youhad to battle a lot of adversity in
a younger years, really educate yourself, especially at a time where man were
still evolving in the nutritional education andeven the movement. I mean, there
was a time I'll say this,there was a time where running was considered

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really really good, but lifting weightswould kill you. Like so I mean
that was that was back in likethe twenties and thirties and maybe even earlier.
But I remember part of it waslike the guy that invented the deadlift,
they thought going a tangent here,you know, they thought that they
thought he died from doing deadlifting,which he called the life lift, I

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think when in the eighteen hundreds orwhatever. But it wasn't that, it
was something else that had nothing todo with it. But and then I
think it was part of the YMCA'smovement of like convincing CARDI was good,
lifting was bad. But now wherewe are, you're going to a time
where you weren't eating. You werejust listening to what all the experts were
saying, what the government was sayingfor you to eat, and you realize

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it was hurting you and not helpingyou. Right, So now you're doing
these amazing things that like people halfyour age or even a third your age,
what do you even consider doing,especially in today's society? So how
do you what do you explain tosome of that you know, physically,
mentally, it's it's three things.So I started selling into Charles. I

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interned with him in nineteen ninety eight. He had just moved his office into
Colorado Springs to doctor Michael Wayey's officeto invest the doctor Ruvie's technique. So
that's probably the number one soft tissuetechnique in the world. In two to
three years, all of the proathletes, all the teams had mayor Chi

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provider. So I had Doctor Torontoand the nutrition and he taught. He
started teaching me biochemistry and the physiologythat I did not learn at college.
Just crucial. Charles had the superiora weight training methods, and doctor Olay
he had the superior methods for fixinginjuries. So I started working with professional
athletes with Charles in nineteen ninety eight, and that's when my eyes opened up.

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The way the professional athletes train,where they eat, the way they
deal with injuries is nothing like youraverage person, I assumed. So I
learned that act the release teks.I fixed injuries also with my hands.
That's awesome, I assumed. Isaid, Well, by three or four
years, five years tops, allthis information is going to be to everyone

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in the free world. I needto get on this and start working this
and learn everything I can to helpall these people. And it's now that
was ninety eight, twenty six yearslater. Who's still no better? It
did not want yacht. The proathletes are here and everyone else is down
here. Would you say it?Why would you say that? Is?
What's your thoughts on that? What'syour thoughts on like? Why would you

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say it still hasn't triggled down?Money always? Right? I mean?
So we have some semi pro teamshere and my daughter got to be.
So we have a hockey team semipro that's connected to the Sabers, the
Rochester Americans team, and my daughtergot to be like the day reporter for

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the day and I went with herone. She couldn't do it alone,
obviously, but I wanted. Iwas curious, and so I started looking
at like their training and man,I saw their supplements for their name,
and it's just like all all thethings. And I've learned a lot too
because I've worked with some semipro andjust just what their day to day looks
like and how everything's monitored and whothey use and how they use it and

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all the things available to it.And I'm like, I get it,
not every human being in America canhave access to this, but what about
even just a small percentage, Likewhy think of how much more better as
a society we'd be mentally physically.But yet we see in the fusiasm.
I was just talking to the guythat did my tattoos actually, because this

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article came out about eighty six percentof I don't know, I it's eighty
six percent of tattoos or products usedby tattoos have like chemic cancer causing and
all these and were chemicals. SoI reach out to him. I always
knew he used like vegan and reallyhealth like he used stuff that's like,
as of right now, is likethe best stuff you can use. It's
not detrimental to your health when putinto your skin. And that's one of

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the reason why I went to themand we were talking about it, and
we we started just talking about Yeah, it's like and I just said,
why is this And it's like,well, you already know the answer.
It's like, why is there aMcDonald's on every block and there's more carcinogen
than that. It's like a boxof cheerios, which promotes in markets health,
But yet we're finding, as youknow, again, just as bad

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as sometimes a McDonald's cheeseburger as someof the carcinogens that are and things of
that nature. And so we werejust talking about that, and it's just
so interesting, how why isn't theremore of a push for a better society?
And I, you know, youhear the money thing, but everybody
would be better if they're healthier rightmentally and physically. Yet we're trying to

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prescribe it, we're trying to turnthings into a business. What are your
thoughts on all that? Now halfof my beads listen to nutrition. I
had to say these directions. It'smore wellness people to come to seemate for
that. And are people usually thathave been to doctors for ten twenty years
don't feel good. The doctors can'tfigure it out. I had a twenty

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nine year old girl. She wasnot feeling real since she was seventeen.
Actually, how many doctors have youseen? Because I've seen so many doctors,
I cannot tell you how many.In the last I went to she
goes. I went to the Mayoclinic and they told me they could not
help me. So I look ather bloodwork I have something called the cell
blueprint. Look at that. Shegot five romi adleg and she's got chronic

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catique syndrome. She's got so achange of diet, she had food allergies,
she needed supplements to replace the nutrientsshe was missing. And it's not
that difficult. But it's also somethingthat people have to be willing to do.
I've had people that you know,I've had women that have like quit

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after two weeks, so they didn'tto do what it takes. Most don't,
Right, is that what you foundthat most don't or most of the
people that come to me, they'reso tired of being sick and tired they'll
do what it takes. I hearthat. Yeah, it's similar from like
you know, I have the capacityto work nutritionally, physically, life wise,

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but a majority of mine are likephysical and from post physical therapists and
similar thing. It's like like thisis a last straw. Like I've been
really helped out a lot of peoplerecently with like back issues because I've had
my fair share and I've never setlimits, and you know, within weeks
I've gotten people a lot of justby proper movement and moving better, they

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feel better. It's like, thisis the best I felt in like ten
years. And it sounds like similarhers what twenty nine to seventeen in twelve
years and just some simple shifts andstuff. And there's so much information out
there, and that's part of it. It's a part of it, like
people just freeze not knowing what itis. So like, you know,
not everybody can hire you or thoseof you, you know, So for

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people that are listening, where canwe direct some people to start getting correct
information or start finding answers and gettingyou know, because it seems like and
it sounds like people are going tohave to do their own work a little
bit, but they're going to haveto find somebody that wants to do the
right thing because it's like no one'sgonna like a doctor's not going to save

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you. Like it sounds like,so, I mean, what do you
suggest? I mean, I putfree information on my Facebook page, which
is open to the public, michaelsto do what So that's like a great
source. But I should add besidesmy mets were doctor Toronto being working with
the the athletes on the other endof the spectrum, he works with the

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tickets people on the planet. Sopeople are told by the best of gastrologists
in the country, you can't befixed you up alive with that, or
the best ender pronologists in the country, you can't be fixed up live with
that. When they go to seedoctor Toronto, you have an eighty percent
success rate. So he started teachingme that. Besides, that's what he
talked about the ellad athletes. Imet another colleague, mentor New York City.

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I had business in Jersey and whpeople weren't going to go to Ohio.
So I found someone called doctor Morrison. It's more of the top doctors
in New York City did the samething that Eric did, making people healthy,
and it's they tell him. Bothdoctors who told me it's not the
doctor's fault these days, it's theway they're taught in school and the way

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the systems. They don't have timeto spend with people. So both doctor
straddle myself, Eric Jeff, wespent an hour talking to a person,
not five ten minutes. I wantto know everything about person's childhood and go
deep. And I think that's theproblem. Everyone just like trying to throw
something at a person, take careof the symptoms and not go deep and

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find out what's causing the issue,find the root cause. And that's a
phrase I use regularly. I mean, that's what I do, right,
you know, Like I've gotten somany people from like different medical professionals,
chiropractors, physical therapists, doctors,acupuncturist, massage therapists. It's cool when
you can work in a network,but I've also gotten them not just you

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know, to find the best courseof action with this person, it's also
what you mentioned, just finding theroot issue, you know, for somebody
that's dealt with childhood trauma, someof that from the mental and the physical
how it's combined and inflammation in thebody. But also like you know,
I took a guy that was withyou know, he was having back issues
too and was with a pretty bigname physical therapist therapy place in the area.

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And he was with them for yearsand he had never found any relief
and he was about to have surgery. And one he wasn't ever taught how
to hinge really, he was justbending over a lot around his back,
didn't know how to squat, andI'm like, didn't know how like stretch
it like just movement, and I'mlike what have you been doing with these

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places? And once we got amoving started to find some of the issue.
Like even when we got a movingbetter, he wasn't like feeling his
muscles like because they haven't. Theywere almost like atrophied, right, So
just you know, there was there'ssome things I did that I learned.
But like one of the things thatI did that is very unconventional is just
like you know, building that relationshipis I literally just took a massage gun
on his hamstrings and his glutes andthen I even just like slapped it one

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day. It was almost like itwoke it up. And then from there
on out he was he started notonly moving even better, but started feeling
the muscles and just like his backpain started to get better and then just
eventually went away. And I waslike so crazy, right, And I'm
sure you've got stories like that.Could you share some of the some more
of those you shared one about thewoman with Why don't you share some of

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you know, your experiences with youknow, inspiring stories or overcoming obstacles of
that nature. And it's interesting.I had a woman came to me three
years ago. She had a threeand a half year old daughter. So
I know you said you had todo. I have a daughter, I
have a two. You have afourteen and a eight year old daughter and

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then eleven year old son. Thiswoman's sorters three and a half years old.
She was told she was splassified bythe State of Pennsylvania, that's classified,
and an neuropsychologist that she had autism. And this woman was spending all
kinds of money on some pretty outthere things. Some definitely weren't going to
work, some were questionable. Sheasked me, She's like, can you

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help me? Said, well,I never worked with a child before.
I'll give it a shot. Wassay, a look, so I have
a bit her blood work and shewas definitely nutrient the fishing. The kid
wouldn't eat. The kid was small, she was at the bottom end of
the scale for her height and herweight. She would eat sugar. Anything
with sugar she would eat. Shewould not eat any real food. So

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I figured out the new treat deficiencyshe had, and in four weeks the
kids started eating dinner and ask themfor seconds. And then like three months
later, the mom sent me tests, You're not gonna believe this. I
just put my kid in childcare.I didn't think this was gonna happen for
the other of a year. Thankyou so much, and the kids six

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Now she's fine. So but noone looks at the root cause it's just
that's sorry, go ahead, andit's it's interesting, Like, you know,
I've worked with waitman, I don'thave a client that seventy five.
She had twenty doctors, she hadsip, your got issues. Her pain

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medication was so strong they made herhave nark Can on hands. What.
Yeah, I'm looking through her theseven years. What you're taking one vacation.
I'm like, I saw a narkCan. I'm like, whyread you
get a nark Can. She's like, well, because the drugs are so
strong. They want that case anythinghappens. You know, me and my
husband can admit to it. Igot her gout paying for a night in

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four weeks. Wow. And I'mlike, I just look at this,
and I'm like, what is wrongwith the system. Just fix the girls.
The woman's got wind, the foodsthat had food issues, check the
foods out. Fix the guy.Hate it's closed. I just don't understand
what's going out of society today.What about you? I think you understand

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it's just it's just hard to wrapyour head around because you're a caring human.
I'm a caring human. You probablyknow a lot of caring humans.
But there's other people out there that, you know, we could blame on
a lot of different things, butget lost in the day to day.
Maybe it's you know, they couldbe nutritionally have a nutrition deficit, they
could be eating toxic foods that aremessing with their brains, and just you

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know that that who knows. Itcould be just a for profit business model,
a scarcity mindset, it could bea number of different factors. But
it's just there's not enough people inthe world world that are just thinking people
first, love first, and let'stake care of these people. And and
some of it it's like I'm sureas you found, it's there's not a

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business per se in because a lotof the things that can help a lot
of people are you know, outin nature, free or low costs.
You know, like everybody can moveevery joint every day for the most part
most okay, not everybody. Mostpeople can move and even just as simple
walk through the woods, it hasa number of different benefits. I mean,
people should be a lot of peopleare learning now like being outdoors breathing

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fresh air. Things we used todo Now we have to have science to
prove it, and then we haveto like hire people to tell us to
do it. And like there's placesin probably this country and in the world
where people were paying people to goforce bathing and teach them how to do
it, or you could just gowalk barefoot by yourself. Right, So
there's all these systems in place,but at the end of the day,
like a lot of things, youknow, if you can't start your own

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garden, get as real food aspossible, like, and then if something's
bothering, you address that. Andand I love the stories that you just
shared from the sixty or the seventyfive year old to the child because it's
like it shows sometimes it's not alwaysgoing to work out that way per se,
but it's we never stop to lookat like what we're exposing ourselves to.

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I think sometimes especially as we're sobusy as parents. I'm a parent,
you know, you know what that'slike. And and and I think
that's the other thing, Like we'rekept busy, so we can't stop and
just look around and be like,oh my god, and question, oh
maybe if I would just cook acouple of night eights a week, or
get more real food around the house, and maybe if we just all move

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as a family one we connect andbond and be healthier mentally, and then
we'd all be healthier physically. Andthen oh, no, one wants to
like say, oh, it can'tbe the McDonald's. It can't be the
fasting. We know it's not healthy, but that can't be affecting my mind
that much that that can't be it. Let's go get a pill, let's
go talk to a doctor. Andthere's got to be something seriously wrong.

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Diagnose me with something right. Imean, so, I don't know,
it's one of these. We couldtalk of this till we're blue in the
face. I'm always trying to figureout what can we do, even just
the two of us and the peoplethat are listening, as a society,
what can the people listening like that'sthe prooing of this podcast strive through sixty
five. What is something somebody cando today and possibly every day or to

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start making that positive impact and change. I think it's it's getting better,
and I think every time more peopleget healthier, and to help spread the
word is what you just said.I have a training studio in New Jersey
and I was working with some clientstwenty three years ago and one of the

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women was telling me, she's likemy husband about the care what he heats
or exercise. Because something happened.He called me. He's just going to
go to a doctor and then theygive him a penel. People want easy
figs, right, you just me, that's exactly what you said. I'm
like, it doesn't fix the issue, which just takes care of the symptom.
There's no fill that fixes the problem. It just masks the symptoms.

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And like, and some people areby like, you know, you and
I live a different lifestyle. We'velived helping. This is who we are.
Yeah, well go ahead, Sorry, No, I was just gonna
say I've been through my adversity too, and that's why I shared openly on
social media, from my back painsto my mental you know, trauma in

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my childhood and you know from likeyou know, I separated this risk.
I've cut my hands open. Youknow, I've broke I've broken my neck
twice. I've torn all four rotatorcuffs muscles on my left shoulder, and
people just don't know these things.So I share these things openly because I
I people might put me on thispedestal, but I'm like, I've been
there too, and I've just hadthis no limit mindset. And I believe

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in the human body, and Ibelieve in the healing process, and and
I know that like from our pasttraumas and our pains can affect some of
the things in the body. AndI have no appendix so nutritionally, like
I'm very sound, but I've alwayshad this mindset well for the majority of
my life of like finding purpose inthe pain the title of my first book

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for that reason. And it's like, you know, adversity is just part
of it, so we need tonavigate around and through and help others through
it. But you know, Iknow not everybody has that they want the
easy. I mean, I hada client once that who was training pretty
regularly seeing great results, and thenhe started sharing these things that like where
you could sit in a chair andapparently it grows muscle or something, and

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I'm like, but that might getthere, but that won't do anything like
the whole I always help people,like working out is more for mental health
than it is for physical health.That's my perspective because now we know so
much that it does for the brain, the gut, all of it,
right, our hormones and so likeeven if we could get strong, that
would still if we were depressed andjust sitting in a machine getting muscles,

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And even if we got those musclesfrom taking a pill, we would still
be depressed because we're not doing anythingfor our mental health. But yeah,
so I went down there, butdown a rabbit hole with that one.
But it's just yeah, so that'ssome of the things we can do,
is I guess, is just talkto people and continue these podcasts and and

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and hopefully get people to be theirtheir own champion. But it's just still
like it's like the age old questionright now, with like, hell,
how do we do that? Howdo we get people to like not look
for the easy fix, you know, find the route? You know?
How can they just stop, youknow and and start making that change.
I think what you said earlier tooabout walking, I have to I'll be

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honest. I used to poo poolwalking, but then the research came out
and showed all the benefits. SoI tell people, especially you know,
go out after dinner, start fiveminutes walk five minutes out your front door,
five minutes back. Just start withthat all weekends. Go for a
long year. Walk movement. Asyou said, movement is key. You

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have to keep moving that thought thatyou know, I learned by accident back
in college. I would stop workingout for a couple of weeks, my
back pain or whatever would get worse. I'd work out. It got better,
I'd stop working out, my backpain got worse, white ball blighte
off. I need to work outso I don't have back pain. Move
you know it's and I'll see youto pooh poosh. You have to do

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the gym. You have to lookheavyweights. And now I'm like, whatever
works for you, do it.Move Just don't sit there on the side
of the couch watching TV. Eight. Yeah, and my movement there's no
I mean, there's no one sizefits all. And just know you're gonna
change. You don't know if itstarts to get boring. I'm all about
having some fun, like having someplay in it. You know, having
a challenge is good too. Butlike where I'm at, Like for example,

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when I tore two or found outa two torn dish in my lumbar
spine got suck in bed last yearand couldn't move for like day. I
wanted to. I wanted to findwhat was really going on. I got
away from like where I was lifting, and I still lift heavy, but
I but I started playing around withdifferent movement patterns, started getting back to

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just like some primal stuff that Iused to do, crawling, more rotational
patterns, exploring my body in thehips. And then I started when I
could finally start running again because Iwas regularly running with my daughter, which
I've shared that story on here.You know, I just started running every
day and I've I've been running atleast a mile a day for like four
or ten days straight, and mybody's never felt better everything around it.
And it's because I'm like, I'mmore intentional about my movement I'm doing,

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Like you know, I'm really focusedon like the hips and the shoulders as
far as like I'll spend ten minutesevery day doing whether it's before my workout
or like you know, just atsome point before I do some some major
physical challenging stuff that I will dothis ten minute thing that I've just kind
of created that's my own, andit's it's weird, but i feel better,

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you know, and it's a littlefun, and and and I and
and so it goes back to likesomething you said there was you're not meant
to really feel these pains, andyou're a testament at sixty four that you're
not some anomaly. You just needto kind of start moving and and and
walk in and and and so whatwould you say to somebody that's listening.

(29:25):
That's because there's so many people likeI feel, especially as men, we're
just told to suck it up,deal with it. But you don't have
to, Like, what would youtell somebody who's struggling with their own challenges,
especially related to pain, that arelistening to this right now? Move
moving? Ay? Well, Imean I had a I had a guy
reach out to me who I knewtwenty years ago. You've actually used to

(29:48):
work for me, and he knows, I say, the youth fix shoulder
pain, all these different pains Ihave I have. I think I have
a foreign rotator cuff, I haveone bart problems, and I have a
knee issue. Can you help me? Said, well, help everyone else?
So sure, So I go tohis He goes, I can't drive
to you in Pennsylvania. I'm NewJersey. He live by my daughter said,

(30:10):
I'll come see you want to goget to my daughter. Well,
we didn't tell me he was.He was always a big guy. He's
always around two hundred and sixty tosixty five. He didn't tell me he
was about three hundred and sixty fivepounds. He got two cents and he
was on insullen. He's a diabetic. So I did some work on his
shoulder, in his back. Isaid, listen, the only way this

(30:33):
is going to work is if youlose weight. Your body can't hold about
three hundred and sixty five pounds.He dropped one hundred and twenty pounds in
four months and got off intillent.Oh, he went back to the gym.
He was bench press eight. That'swhat it's like. He watered the
bench press again. He was.He went back to the gym, he
moved. So ultimately, it's aboutthe person's driving they want to accomplish.

(31:02):
What do you think about that?Yeah, Like, like we said earlier,
you need you need to find yourdeep why on what you're doing.
And I'm always a big proponent ofthat, and sometimes we need some help
to be digging that because we don'twant to like address it. We don't
want to, we don't want togo there, you know, I feel
like because then it becomes real,Like so many of my clients have gotten

(31:23):
to why they're really coming through thedoor, and it's not their service level
reason they usually give me. Youknow, Oh I want back to pain
to go away? Well why Iwant to lose l Why like I I
want to, I want to getready for this vacation and why and then
what's after that? You know,like so just getting there and everything's usually

(31:44):
about relationships, you know, it'salways about the relationship with himself or relationship
with others or you know. Ihave the story of uh, you know,
uh a guy who who who wantedto lose weight, and he kept
saying, because it's the right thingto do, it's healthy. He looked,
he looked dumbound where I said,well, why do you want to
lose weight? Like looking at melike I'm an idiot, Like I don't

(32:04):
know, Like who is this guy? Like? Because it's healthy? Is
there anything to do? But I'mlike why, Like what's that going to
do to you? Trying to painta picture? And that's what I tell
people, like talk to somebody.But if you can't write it out,
like really keep going down that rabbithole until it gets to an emotional level.
Because basically, with this guy,it was he he wanted to be

(32:27):
alive long enough to see his grandchildrenget married. And I was like,
well, do you just want tosit on the bench and watch or do
you want to walk them down theaisle? Do you want to be physically
able and then not just walk themdown the aile? Do you want to
be physically able to dance with himin the wedding or do you want to
be in a wheelchair and just watchingeverybody? And he's like he started crying,
man, because it was like,so that's why you do these things.

(32:52):
That's why sometimes you got to makea choice. And it's the hard
choice of like the comfort easy ofdriving through a drive through. I'm not
saying never go to McDonald's again,but like, hey, let's minimize that,
and like when you feel tempted atyour lowest moment, it's easy to
just say yes to the comfort,knowing that it's not thinking of the discomfort
it's gonna give later on, butgoing for the what might feel uncomfortable that's

(33:13):
going to bring the ultimate comfort ofyou dancing with your granddaughter at her wedding.
You know that's the ultimate comfort,right, and so to go for
that, you gotta sometimes put downsome of these go for a walk around
the block. I mean enough studies, like you said, the simple thing
of just walking. You don't evenwalk fast. You don't even walk with
weights like you see some people Likethere's a woman, a lover. She
goes around my block. I swearshe's like walking for like three hours straight.

(33:36):
She's Karen Waits and she's going asfast as she can't. She looks
great, she's healthy. You don'thave to do that. In fact,
walk with some friends. There's abenefit of walking socially with friends. I
would say, like you said,lift weights occasionally heavy because like I said,
you know, there's the mental benefitsof that. And so let's shift
into that gear a little bit.You know, how important is the mindset
to overcoming some of this physical andemotional pain. I you touched on a

(34:00):
couple of things there. Part ofthe issue I've in my opinion, based
on what I've seen in the research, we have a lot of nutritional issues
which you're affecting neural transmitters. We'vegot gut issues which are affecting the ural
transmitters. So I get it.It's not easy. You need to find

(34:20):
your why, as you said,to help take care of everything and move
forward. Otherwise you're not going togo anywhere. And this is what I
see. I see young kids sittingon the couch in their twenties. I
love someone who's in their twenties andjust sitting in the couch over three hundred
pounds. They have no why,and their family works out and eats well.

(34:47):
So everyone's gott to find what worksfor them. As far as women,
I think I think people should getoutside more. I definitely think that's
that's part of the issue. Everyonespends too much time indoors between work,

(35:12):
sleep, eating, and very fewpeople are outside. As you said,
forest bathing, in my opinion,is phenomenal and no one goes out.
What would you say to the person, So, I mean, I feel
like people know that, So whatwould you say to the person. It's
like, well, I don't havetime to do that. Yeah, I
always hear that. But you know, I've read a lot of professional bodybuilders

(35:36):
and they have full time jobs,they have families with children, and they
still get to go to the gymtwo hours every day, and they still
get the meal prep. So Iget and I've heard the nine pro I
SVV pro bodybuilders. They can doit. They can say about a time
in every day as you do.It can be done because they say that's

(35:58):
cute. So then the next questionis, okay, so I make the
time. I create the time,which is what I tell people, you
create time. Time is an illusion. You can create it like that.
Can get around that, and thenso then they'll their next thing will be
okay, okay, I'll create thetime. But I don't even know where
to start, and so people getstuck there. What would you say is
the first thing they should do?Just go for a walk, or go

(36:22):
get a gym membership, whatever,whatever is the easiest to them. Hey,
Jo, your ride a bicycle,ride a bicycle, whenever makes you
happy. Move, I don't careever, watch watching a yoga video and
doing that. I took on hockey. I took on hockey two years ago
because I've got two kids at play. It's been the best thing ever.
People are scared to like do rollerskates or bikes or other things. Don't

(36:45):
be afraid like you know, there'steachers out there, there's ways to do
it, because there's even benefits ingoing into things that you're afraid of or
or you know, you may notknow how to do it initially. You
know, your brain actually grows.Let's talk about that for a little bit,
Like there's growth in your brain.They're showing new research when you you
do challenging things that you don't reallywant to do that are good for you,

(37:07):
Like if you don't want to gowork out, you're gonna get smarter,
like if you like you know,they they found a lot of this
out from like the cold plunge.Of course, you can't love the cold
plunge. You still got to hateit. And you get benefits of like
the brain grows, right, andnew neuro connections in the brain, so
you know, there's even benefits inthat. So who just don't want to
get smarter? Right? And thenwe talk about like, you know,

(37:28):
you know a big thing for ifyour men listen to this, you know,
hormones, testosterone. You mentioned likewith your food, how like you
could have probably looked healthy on theoutside, but your testosterone levels are low,
and how like food is affecting thatand then also like erect out as
function, you know, the biged that nobody wants to talk about,
Like that's affecting a lot of youngmen these days. And it could be

(37:52):
it's an it could be a numberof things. It could be you know
that they have high access to pornor something. But it's also food and
your environment and what you're watching,and and the lack of blood flow and
movement. I mean, you knowmy parents for example. Well let's let's
pause, but let's talk about thatfor a little bit. Yeah, I'm
statch both for men and women.I'm gonna stay real quick. Doctor s

(38:15):
Ronald when he became a doctor innineteen ninety. On the blood labs,
the testosterol level for normal in nineteenninety was four hundred to eleven hundred.
Well now it's two hundred to athousand. And let me tell you,
if your testops phones give up fourhundred, you got a problem. You

(38:36):
don't feel well. Yeah, Andbecause that's the norms And likewise, I've
seen a lot. I'm seeing alot of women forties with hysterectomies. I've
seen women in the thirties with coops. And it's a food issue. I
like people's like, well I havepcos it's a hormone issue, Like,
yes, it's your hormones. Sowhat's causing your hormones to be out of

(38:58):
whack food you're eating and the insulinspiking up, which is the effect thing
how your foremones are made. It'salways you have to go deep. Then
I think people try to just dothe shallow stuff when you really need to
go deep and look at the food. And I studied on an outfield path
from France for three years early twothousands, and we were out to dinner

(39:21):
all night, I said, doctorroy Knight, what surprised you the most
about the United States? Without missingit big? He goes the poor quality
of the food. Now, intwenty ten, I with my daughter in
Knoxville, Tennessee, at the Worldwid Sports Championships. Arley Cletford, who
was the seventeen year old points leader, sits down next to us in the
hotel with his spot and his product. They start talking to him, said

(39:45):
Harley, what surprised you the mostabout the United States? Kids? Seventeen?
He goes the poor quality of thefood. Exactly what doctor Roye said.
This kid's seventeen at the same yearand what they get in other countries,
right, allow so many more thingsinto our food products that are I
mean you know that are bannoned inother countries. I remember looking at a

(40:07):
list where like I think it wasI don't know, like almost twenty five
hundred or three thousand different ingredients thatwe allow into our food products. That's
just food, Like let's talk aboutour Yeah, it's probably more. Let's
talk about our makeup. Let's let'stalk about our tattoo, inc. Like,
Yeah, it's so much stuff thatwe allow here isn't allowed in other
places. I mean, I thinkthat three thousand was probably like ten years

(40:30):
ago, but now it's probably nowthat we just I just posted this on
Facebook. I looked it up.Oh wow, No, I didn't see
that. It's like probably about amonth ago. Three hundred and twenty five
food added is are allowed in Europethree hundred and st I think it's three
twenty five. It's over ten thousandnow United States ten thousand. There you
go. Do you think about it? Even and we already know like plastic

(40:52):
is in all your water, evenyour filtered water, So it's like we're
already getting like a credit card aweek, I think is what it is
we need to do our art.And this doesn't to scare you. I'm
not saying all this if it helps, hey be scared. But no,
like I just look at it deeper. So I mean, I'm not gonna
go real, real deep on mind. But it's not necessarily always about me.

(41:13):
But as a father, it's aboutmy kids, Like I want to
show them be the best dad.You know, you know I would attribute
like these foods to like fights andtempers and energy and and you know,
activity and then inflammation and body solike you know, you don't have to
be a genius and and nutritionous andknow it just like yeah, you don't

(41:36):
have to get organic everything. Likeit might just start with hey, maybe
say this is where things become problematicand people get frozen where you don't want
to eat anything. It's like vegansbad, No meats bad. This that's
bad. Like, oh, itshould be this apple with these numbers on
it. It should only be youknow, in the day, if you're
eating an apple versus like a boxmeal or a fast food, you're going

(41:57):
to be better off. Even ifit does like we go on and on
about pesticides like wash it really good, right, Like, wash all your
stuff really good. I wash myeggs even if they're organic, like cause
you never know who to Like,just wash your stuff. I wash off
my banana even though I'm not eatingthe peel, just because you know,
like if I cut into something.So just wash your stuff like that's that.
Don't over complicated and just start makingbetter choices, knowing that it leads

(42:21):
to better and greater things, especiallyin your relationships, you know, your
longer life, but also with youryour your wife, kids, whatever that's
important. If you've got people thatare important in your life, then you
should be doing everything possible, ismy my thought. That's my That would
be my deep wine. I say, I say, just eat real food?

(42:42):
Are you doing your great grandparents say? Does that mean you can't go
to McDonald's as you said earlier?Now? But for the most part,
eat real food, unprocessed. Andthat's a whole another argument these days,
like everything like olive oils technically processLike we read all of what are your
thoughts on these? Like what areyour thoughts on these? Uh? Almost

(43:06):
meet like these vegan burgers and stuff? Do you have an opinion on that?
As? Ah? Yeah, asa as a former vegetarian for eight
years, I bought into all ofthat stuff, and I don't do well
with any of that. I don'tbuy down that well. And there's a
million different ingredients, like if youhad them, just need real food.

(43:29):
That's my real food. There's somany there's so many documentaries and podcasts out
there. I just watched one thatseemed really really good. It was done
on twins, but then it startedto seem like it was pushing you to
become vegan. I'm like, man, now this seems like propaganda. And
not to say I'm against it.I was vegan for a long time.

(43:50):
Mine actually was motivated by a girlfriendand she hated me, and I want
to like I wanted a dater andso but I actually, oh, I'm
fine. But I as soon aswe broke up, I say, I
ate a steak. My mom tookme out for a steak. It was
the best steak I ever had andit really wasn't but it's from like Applebee's,
but it felt like the best steak. And I'll never forget it because
like, I felt energized right afterthat and and I realized, you know,

(44:15):
my skin started to fill out morelike I just started to feel better
and look better. And this Iwas a teenager, you know, and
when I lost my appendix, youknow, I mixed between veggies and fruits
and all these different things and experimentingon myself. But every since my panix,
I just feel better off like meatsand fats and like some cooked green
vegetables. But again that's me.And then we got to work with each
other. So you know, yougot to play around that. You got

(44:37):
to see what works, and yougot to have a web side sits all
die clients that are on very veryvery low carbaudrates diet. I've got clients
that are decent amount of carbohydrates,and I got everything in between. I
got not anyone works well on certainpeople work better with wrekback like people work
better at webs bats, but peopledo better with more carbs. So people

(44:57):
do better wef I think that's theproblem in today's society. Everyone's looking for
that one diet that works for everyone, and it's never they would have found
it by now there's no one.You know, you just gotta I'm a
big fan of like just because Ihave no appendix, and I know a
lot of people have like gut inflammationthat I work with, like that kind
of eating where you know, playingaround you know, more removal, anti

(45:21):
inflammatory eating, you know, andseeing what works for each individual, because
each individual is different. And soI would suggest that too, Like you
want to see what makes you feelgood. It should make you like it's
fuel. It should be revving upyour engines and make you feel good.
And if it's not, and sometimesyou don't even know until you start taking
things out and you're like, man, I feel a lot better now that

(45:42):
I took reduce my sugar, forexample, which is an easy one.
Man. I know alcohol is notbad, but I didn't think it was
affecting me until I only drank onthe weekends and took it away. Man,
I feel so much I don't evenneed I've heard people who got rid
of alcohol and lowered their sugar andthey even didn't need as much caffeine,
and they were sleeping because they weresleeping better and all the other things that
came with it. So you gotto play around it. So we're I

(46:02):
mean, for those looking integrate somewellness practices into their busy lives, what
are some other things, some othertips or affected strategies you might recommend for
those listening SLAPI Kate absolutely sleep isKate, move, eat real food,
and do something to manage your stress. I see high school k I see

(46:25):
high school kids stressed, and itsstress is definitely called me. A big
issue is stressed. It pleats alot of nutrients. It just pleaks dignesium
to treats the B vitamins about valuablevitamins. And it's insane how much stressed
we have our lives. Yeah,my daughter who's fourteen, earlier this year,
she came home and she's like,what's anxiety? And I'm like,

(46:47):
what do you ask? Apparently majorityof her friends and people she knows and
people in school or have anxiety andare taking medicine for it, and she
didn't even know what it was becauseshe doesn't deal with it. We I
mean, she's uh. I don'twant to use the word normal because that's
normal. She's not normal, butshe's healthy mentally physically. And just asked

(47:09):
that question. And the new thingtoo is vaping at her school and she's
had I'm so proud of her.She's like, I asked her about that
because apparently research showing like a majoritykids are vaping. She started telling me
how they've had to close down allthe bathrooms but like a few because so
much vaping was going on in theseschools. Yeah, and we live in

(47:30):
a good school district. This everywhere, and and so they got to like
it's like ultra security, Like yougot to ask and somebody's got to walk
you to the bathroom. It's likecrazy, it's like a jail zelle in
there. And she's talking about thevaping and she said, she told me
this recent like she had to getrid of some friends because all they wanted
to do was vape and she didn'twant to be around with that. And

(47:50):
I'm so proud of her. Partof it is she wants to be a
police officer one day. She seesit as just helping people, and she's
wanted to be one since she waslike seven, and so she she knows
that what affect those things, butshe just wanted to be associated with those
type of people. And these peopleyou wouldn't even know. These are good
kids with good grades, and they'rein sports with her, they're excelling athletes,
but they're sitting here got like avaping addiction because they're putting in nothing

(48:12):
that this conversation needs to be aboutthat. But this goes into hell too,
And it's just this is what ourkids are exposed to. Things I
was never exposed to. Things you'renever exposed to. Like, we just
want our kids to go to school, get a good education, build some
relationships and the benefits of that andsports and all that. But here we
are she's having to deal with allthese other things. The kids that definitely

(48:37):
as at five, the pot orI need to believe as a good example
from a daughter, I think I'vedone pretty well. I see these kids
in the morning dan coffee drinks withtons of sugar, and I'm just shaking
my head. I'm like, oh, yeah, I mean your Starbucks,
your average Starbucks drinks is worse thanlike four scoops of ice cream or something

(48:59):
like that. Versa. Yeah,it's crazy, right, So where do
you see like the future of wellnessand pain and eliminating Where do you see
it heading? You know, wetalked earlier about like it hasn't made much
from the professional to the most people. You know, So where do you
see it? You know, asheading, especially with the integration of technology

(49:19):
and traditional practices and we're seeing likeEastern and Western medicine combining now and things
of that nature. I'm confidence movingin the right direction. I hope you.
I wish we would be moving alittle fat submentded in, but at
least it's moving the right direction.People are starting to wake up and they
I think part of there's doctors that, like my age, got to retire

(49:43):
or near retirement that felt issue andthey're doing what the medical system said.
They're not getting any batter, sothey're starting to look outside the box.
So now that that's happening, morepeople are being aware of it, and
I have I have confidence that's goingto move in the right direction and keep
moving that direction. But it's likeanything else, those are to be sunk.

(50:04):
People aren't going to do what ittakes. At the end of the
day, the person have to dowhat it takes. What do you think?
Yeah, and we also have torealize why it may I think we're
given, you know, false informationabout the past. I look back on
my geniality, for example, whowere just like farmers through most of my
So my family moved to America theArnold line in uh, you know,

(50:28):
slightly before the Revolutionary War and thenwe had somebody in there. And so
I look back and a lot ofthem were living in their like seventies and
eighties, so like they were livinga pretty decent and when we're told like
all average AD was twenty five,we had to remember how much more war
and murder and famine and all thisthings. And health played a factor too.
It wasn't just economics. But atthe end of the day, they
didn't All they had was real andtheir lives were activity and they were outside

(50:51):
most of the time, you know, So like all the things that we
have to tell people to do wasreally just part of a daily life and
a choice and everything else where.Now it's like where we have access to
so much stuff that isn't real andartificial, right, So, like you
know, right now we're in ourofficial environment to record this, which is
fine, but that's why we needto get in in the real but like

(51:12):
from the foods that we eat toour environment, I'm getting to the point
where and I would love maybe whatyou're doing too. Look at your life
and if a majority of it,like we say the eighty twenty you hear
that I don't really use that maybeyou do, but people hear eighty twenty.
So if eighty percent of my foodis real, I'm doing the right
thing. Look at your entire environment. You know, maybe you can't work

(51:32):
outside, but if you have WiFi, can you get on your computer
and just be in the sunrise alittle bit? I don't know, like
think outside the box a little bit. What about your environment, like everything
from what you're exposing your eyes,your ears, your nose, your body.
You know. You know. That'swhy I think the seventy five hard
has some of its benefit. Thatworkout if you've heard of it, because
like one of the workouts, youhave to do two workouts to day one,
you have to do outside, right. I think that's great because it

(51:54):
gets you outside. And I thinkwe need also think about not just the
food. Like I said, weneed to get more of just what is
everything is so fake in our livesthat can we get more real? And
that's what I was getting at withthat. That's a great point. That
is actually a great point. Yeah, So that's where I'm coaching people.
That's what I'm doing with my kidsand my clients. But you know,

(52:16):
we got a few minutes here,but like, what what do you do
personally? You know, to ensureyour own continuous growth and ability to support
others effectively. Like what are someof the dailies or the practices and things
you love to share on here thatpeople might benefit from. And I eat
well Friday night, Saturday night,I'll go walk and do whatever I want.

(52:38):
Work out every day, whether that'sout in the woods, hiking on
the operation trail, walking in thegym movement every day, eat well,
sleep well. I'm always studying,learning. I haven't watched I haven't had
cable TV since at least ten years. I'm always educator. I'm always working

(53:00):
on my brain. I'm always learningevery day. I think that's that's that
works for me. Did that workfor you? That works? Man?
I like it? And uh,you know, what is one piece of
advice you'd like to leave listeners withtoday, Like something they can start doing
right away that we haven't talked about, because you left a lot of nuggets.
You left a lot of good stuffhere for people. You know,

(53:21):
somebody gets start doing right away toimprove their quality of life. Could be
mentally, could be physical, Itcould be something emotional, it could be
something spiritual. Be happy. Whatif they say they can't or they don't
know how figure it out. Iphone a friend. I wrote a book,

(53:43):
actually not to promote this, butmy second book is called Joyful Warrior,
which comes out March eighth, andI talk about that. And I'm
a big believer that we can findjoy through the adversity. So sometimes if
you can't do it yourself, youdon't always need a therapist. In fact,
some of my best healing has beenthrough some of the things we actually
talked about here, getting out ofnature, camping, talking to others,

(54:05):
moving, eating real food. Imean food should be good, by the
way, like I think that's theother thing we haven't really talked about,
eating real Learn a season, man, there's nothing wrong with seasoning, Like
learn a season your food. Andif you like, like my wife loves
grilled chicken, season grilled chicken,So I do that almost. I don't
want to say weekly, pretty rarelyeven or season grilled chicken with something like.

(54:27):
I find ways to make things sheand the kids like healthier. For
example, this past week I madea healthier chicken alfredo without any dairy.
But you wouldn't even know the difference. My best friend with that one some
garlic and some grilled chicken, goodseasoning, and I use coconut milk and
some other things to make a creamykind of sauce. You take some frozen

(54:49):
cauliflower. Two is a way todo it and just smooth it up and
you know, basic season salt,pepper, garlic. Right. So I'm
just sharing some tips there. Man, this came to me while we're here.
I'm kind of I always like towe have something different I had I
had somebody on here, I waslike, hey, before we leave here,
if you had a unicorn sized wish, what's one thing you would wish
for. I think you've already gottento that. I've asked some other things.

(55:10):
But man, while I was inthere, I was just thinking,
if somebody living or dead could havejoined us today, who would it be
And why? Wow, should Ihave prepped you more? Why? The

(55:32):
team was like one of the firstto really look at all abspects of the
human body, everything, not justone area. And I think that's part
of the problem with state society,especially with the medical community, they just
look at one area. Well,mental is that everything works together in the

(55:52):
body. And that's one thing Ilearned from out there about with France doctor
Yi. They do things differently inEurope than they do that, and that's
why there would be entirely different.They work with the whole body, not
just one area. I like thatsocial what you were just saying about social

(56:17):
media has made a spot social andthere's mighty of research showing that people live
the longest have the best social lives. There in Italy that had lived long
lives and they were very social people. Yeah, some of the most social
people people. Yeah, like walkingand talking, hanging out. People in

(56:38):
community lived the longest. People outin nature and fresh air. I mean,
I had a friend who had bipolarI guess he still does, but
he moved from cold Midwest to warmFlorida and started in being bipolary. Sometimes
didn't want to be around people becausethey didn't know we only have like an

(56:59):
outburst. Essentially started getting in apart of a church, community group and
things of that nature, and hebasically got off his medication for a while.
He's back on it, but justmore as like a safety precaution and
he has a team of people.But he's never been better just by getting
outdoors more and being around people.Things that like people to deal with,

(57:19):
like depression or mental health, areother things going on, you don't want
to be around people, but likeeven in your hardest moments, you got
to do it. I love theLeonardo Vinci too, just as like a
I believe we're all artists and creator. So I just love that example and
to use that and what he wasable to do at his time period.
In fact, there's a book Iread that goes into his mind. He
was way ahead of his time,and he was looked at as something was

(57:42):
wrong with him, but there wereso many things right. You know.
There's a book called the Leonardo Leonardoor the da Vinci Method, the Venenci
Method, and it was like,you know how his brain was just overactive
and today it would have been diagnosedas like ADHD. But he was able
to harness a lot of things tocreate and explore and see almost into the
future. Right. So I love, love, love that example, and

(58:04):
and so we'll leave you with that. Man. So for those that are
interest in learning more about your workor getting in touch with you, what
are some of the best ways toconnect? What are some resources that Facebook,
Michael Padova website, www dot hpa dot coach for Humans Performance authority
coach. Those are the two bestways. Okay, Oh, I wrote
trampoline down here. I forgot tomention it earlier when we were talking about

(58:27):
like walking. I'm a big believerin trampoline. It's a low impact thing
and it's actually like the more peoplecan do that can prevent things like bearcose
veins. I was gonna say that, and just that flow. What's up
lymphatic flow? Yeah, and andand getting blood flow and how that you
know, the calves are essentially likethe brain of your lower half. They've

(58:49):
so found so much. If youcan just get blood flow in your calf,
what it's going to do to yourwhole body and with everything like blood
clots and everything else. So Iwrote that down. I was like,
do I want to mention here atthe end? Who cares about the flow?
Right? To mention it because it'sgoing to help somebody. And so
go walk around the woods with somebodyelse and have some fun on a trampoline
and go check out some Leonardo daVinci. I hope you guys find that

(59:12):
well. Thanks Mike, appreciate yourtime here. This is a real pleasure.
Enjoyed your information nuggets and for thosethat enjoyed connect We'll also leave some
stuff on the notes below, andjust remember this is another free resource to
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