Ep 44 - Die Hard with a Vengeance

Yippee-Ki-Yay… PART 3! Swole Cinema Episode 44 is here, and Ryan and Mark are diving into the explosive third installment of the iconic franchise: "Die Hard with a Vengeance"! 

This time, Bruce Willis returns as John McClane, teaming up with the always-amazing Samuel L. Jackson to take on the clever and chaotic villain Jeremy Irons. From high-stakes puzzles to epic city-wide chases, this movie cranks up the action and delivers some of the franchise’s most intense moments! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
What's up everybody, We're back. It's Swole cinema. I'm here
with my young friend Mark. How are you today, sir?
I'm fine, thank you? What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Good? Yeah? Good? It's another die Hard week. It's got
to be. It's another die Hard week right around the holidays.
There's one thing we know for sure. Die Hard with
a Vengeance is not a Christmas movie or a New
York City for that idea. This was not.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
There was a reference to Santa or something. At one
point he made a comment about Christmas. Sir, Yeah, that's right.
I'm not saying I forget what it was. And I
was like, oh, you just want to get a little
Christmas joke in. But yes, this is not a Christmas
movie whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
But what I did?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
They instead of going die Hard one Diehard too, they
just went die Hard with a Vengeance, right, No.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Three? Disappointing. Really they didn't even do like one of
the ease and the word vengeance, like using a three. Yeah,
that had been cool. This marketing guys were installed this one. Yeah.
But like I will say this though about three was
if they wouldn't have made a four and a five,
this would have been like as much as I haven't

(01:21):
watched The Diehards in a while. When I rewatched, my
go like, this would hold up against any prime action
trilogy of all time. Okay, and because they and they followed,
they followed the sequence of And actually I actually thought
about Last Action Hero a lot doing this one, because
how you know, Schwarzenegger's character is always like, well, it's
just crazier and crazier things keep happening. And that's exactly

(01:44):
what I thought about this one, Like they just every
you know, every you know, installment of a movie franchise,
it almost gets a little crazier, a little crazier, a
little crazier, like the only exception is maybe Bond, because
it's just an ongoing craziness yeah, the entire time. But
but like whenever, you know it's not going to be
a forever thing, you got to keep up in the
ante every time. And this one was definitely way more

(02:07):
over the top than the other two.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I never I was thinking I was about to
say about the plot, and you just summarized how over
the top it was, because I was thinking, like, okay,
everything that transpired and dinner with a Mandae, I'm like,
what a fucking like, this is crazy. The entire New
York Police Department would not fall for this. They couldn't

(02:32):
just roll in like what twenty trucks right break into.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
The reserve, Federal reserve.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I'm like, we're I'm like, hell, I believe the
first two movies could actually be possible compared to this one,
which You're right, they were just upping up in the
action and upping the craziness.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, I mean at the same time, because we don't
get by the third one, you were like, fuck it,
John McClean, I don't care if the plot is ridiculous,
let's John John McLain will solve it. It'll be cool, right.
John McLain is the best ever man that ever walked
the planet. Yep, because he was he and that's what
he was. He was competing into that time was the biggest.
Biggest action stars were obviously Slalloane and Switchingegger. You know

(03:15):
what I like too.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
This is a third movie And at no time in
all those years did Bruce Willis think about like lifting
weights like.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
He wasn't a small day. Actually, you know what I
was gonna say. He never saw boff action here, right,
He looked like he might work out on the weekends. Yeah,
he looked like.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
A like just a normal guy that Yeah, maybe he
went for a run, but working out at the police gym.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
There's the one scene where he goes to inspect back
in to inspect the basement of the Federal Reserve and
he's in that elevator and he is, by like six
inches the shortest guy on that elevator, especially the one
guy that doesn't speak English whatever. But isn't he like
six foot now he's like five ten eleven. Yeah, he's
very everyman.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
The elevator seeing uh, immediately I had this. I'm sure
you've seen it. But Captain America Winter Soldier, where he
realizes everybody on the elevator are bad and they're gonna fight.
So he says, before we get started, do you want
to get off? Does anybody want to get off? So

(04:22):
when they all start piling in the elevator, I'm like, man,
this is just like I wouldn't be funny if the
Captain that that was a shout out to this movie.
But again, John mcclan kicks all their asses just like
Captain America did. Of course, Yeah, and maybe John mcclan
is Captain he's captain everyman.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'll keep in mind, well, not not to his wife,
cause again part three, he's just strange from his wife. Again,
he's once again this does not seem like a healthy relationship.
I'm just saying, not at all. Yeah, well, but Holly's
got this this big job with after the incident at
the first die Harm, she's probably like the president. Yeah yeah,

(05:08):
it's probably a billionaire at this point, right, so she
doesn't have time for John's antics. Oh he just has
to save the world neck like a tough guy. Oh
my god, No, but I did. I did laugh about
that afterward. Uh, because this whole I just love how
the how non explanation you get for why him and

(05:30):
his wife are not taught, like not together. And he's
just like I came to New York a year ago
and gotten you know, we had a phone call, we
got in a fight, she hung up on me, and
neither one of us called each other back. And I'm like, so,
so what did you come with all your all of
your possessions in New York? Like what do you do
whenever your wife has got It? Actually makes John like

(05:50):
he's actually a real asshole, right, Like did you just
rent an apartment that night and go like, I guess
this is where I live now? Who knows? I mean.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
He when they did find him, he was like extremely hungover,
a wicked, bad headache that took him the entire movie
to get over, right.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I mean he got into a fight on the phone call.
On a phone call with his wife, she hangs up,
and he goes, well, I might as well just apply
for a job at the NYPD. I guess this bitch
doesn't want to talk to me, right, Like, what the fuck?
The hero of Knockatoby Towers. Of course we'll hire you
right back, you Knockatoony Tower hero. You saved an airport? Airport?

(06:32):
Yeah right, and.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Why are you still a cop? You should be like
they had a secret service.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
It can'ts me. Me go up busted down because he's
drinking too much? Right? His resume? Yeah, Like if you're applying,
like what qualifies you to protect the president? He should
be the Secretary Defense. His resume would literally be like, oh, okay,
you're the guy. Oh you're totally qualified. You may know
me from Knockatoby Towers, so single handedly you did did
this and this. Oh well you could totally be part

(06:58):
of the Secret Service. Right, yeah, he should. He should
not be a cop on the.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Beat, just in case there's ever a white house down situation.
And in that movie, I think it was like Chadum
Tanning or Chanting always get his name, Roughing Tatum.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
There was a couple of those white house down kind
of movies. All Mark knows is that the lead cop
was very hot. It was matching. Mind. No, there's one
with Gerard Butler where he was like, had this secret
service and had to hold on.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Nobody knows, but my wife's sitting in the corner supposed
to be quiet, but she knows more than I do.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
The movie. There's three of the ones with.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Butler, right, it's something the falcon is like eagle has fallen,
Falcon has falling, London has fallen, something has fallen.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Two words, two words. Sounds like but anyway, anyway, you
would think he would qualify to be that Gerard Butler character, right,
like he could protect I mean, the president of the
United States. He may have a sixth sense himself even
before he was in that movie or you know, actually
just everything he did.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
You think the government like, hey, here's some money, you
could stop being a cop. You should go get a
cabin in the woods and just you earned retirement.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Right yeah, oh yeah, yeah he's pretty amazing. But yeah,
here we are back on the street in this one.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, I get he saved uh billions and billions and
trillions and trillions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
So again, somebody should hire him sometimes, be like a
head of security at something. Yeah yeah, maybe maybe in LA.
Maybe he'd get that job in LA and be a
well paid to his wife.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Again, I don't think we should go any further. We
should not watch die Hard four or five, six, whatever.
Oh no, I don't so I never want to know
if he gets back with Holly, Like I know, I've
seen them, but I don't remember anything. I just know
that Justin Long and Kevin Smith were in the one
of them. I like Kevin Smith, but I do remember
him sucking ass as an actor in that movie, literally

(09:04):
or figuratively.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, no, no, no, just wasn't wasn't doing a great job,
wasn't killing it. It wasn't like he was. I mean,
he played a good part. He was a computer nerd,
right right, But yeah, it wasn't like the whole movie
was terrible, right of course, of course, I think that
was five? Was that five? Live Free or die Hard? Yeah,

(09:25):
that might be five. What was four? I don't know,
went back to numbering. Yeah, maybe maybe I never saw
having computer. I can probably look at it, but I
think it was die Harder, die Hard four, die Harder,
died fear Boner, death Boner. Would you death on the
first one? Bon die Hard, die Hard four, Death Boner,
die Harder, Death Boner four? Yeah? But yeah, So so

(09:50):
John McLean's has hungover and like that, man, that opening
scene is pretty rough. It was like, were they like so, uh,
Hans Gruwer's brother, Yeah, calls in a back to the
first one, blows up a department building or a department
store and then calls the cops say he did says
he did it, which I love that they just took

(10:11):
for granted, like, oh, this is the guy that blow
up the department store. We're going to do everything, he says,
Do you have any proof? No? No, no, so ever, right,
but we're going to follow whatever he says. But I
get it's movie. We're going with it. And he's like
he has a beef with McLean says, drag him out
from one of Rockies under and send him into the
middle of Harlem with a sandwich board that says I
hate n words right now.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I saw like some stills that I actually had, I
hate everyone. When they really filmed it, Oh okay, they
had another board with some marketings on so the cg artists, Yeah,
you can put it on. I'm sure they didn't want
to really film that, right with what it said, hold
on was my phone was ring for some.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Reasons, not tick that? Yeah, yeah, that's it's nice to
know that because in my head is like, it doesn't
matter if you tell people you're filming or not. Someone's
not going to be happy about that.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Right yeah, because then, well you couldn't actually have that
because people would like they wouldn't care what movie it was,
they would it was.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
They would just be so much controversy, right not then today? Yes? Today?
Maybe then too.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
In the movie kind of works because that's how we
get introduced to Samuel Jackson comes out let him there,
like what what what is.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Wrong with you? Yeah? You're gonna get killed from wearing this?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
He John can barely explain to him like, look, I
have to do this bomber before there's a gang's about
kill him.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, and they I mean made me laugh because they
you know, they a police van drops this guy off
and goes away, and he's sitting there with a sign
on him, and uh, he just starts walking. I'm like,
I would not move at all. I would be like,
I'll be right here, possibly dead, like but.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I'm they moved back ten blocks, which seems so there's
no backup you you don't have any no one's gonna
be hereof minutes or nobody like play just like lingering
around just in case, Like you could probably send a
plain clothes officer in. Yeah, you know, Peru's in the stores,

(12:10):
just just so John has some bag up they get.
They pulled back ten blocks.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, just because I guess Simon says it says, yeah, yeah,
that that whole scene is great because then, you know,
like you said, then you get introduced to Samuel Jackson's
character Zeus, who is great because he just gets done
saying like telling his children don't trust white people. Right.
But but I in my head like it was it

(12:38):
was fun because it felt like they were taking this
a very stereotypical black person who I'm sure a lot
of America would look at and be like, that's exactly
who that person is. But by the end of the movie,
they're going to have you rooting for him. You know.
I loved how they did that, Like we're going to
take this guy that you know, you you think like
as soon as you see him, you're like, that's exactly

(12:59):
what that guy is. But by the end of the movie,
you're like, this guy's fucking awesome. We're rooting for him.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And it's a gateway to uh, those guys, uh John
and Zoos to have a little attention and at the
end be best friends. Right yeah, oh yeah, they learned
things about each other on the way, which was a
little dumb, but right, oh yeah, but good because apparently

(13:24):
John McClean just needs a freaking friend. In the first
one calls goddamn wife, right, he just needs a damn friend, right,
well yeah, I mean, well yeah, maybe he needs maybe
he needs like the best black friend because Alan the
first one was his buddy. Now he has Zeus and
the needs somebody to tell him like, hey, you know
it was Zoos at the end of the movie, Yeah,
they call your fucking wife.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I love this. Stop being a stubborn dickhead. My favorite
part of that whole scene is is Zeus like asks
the other cop, like you got a quarter, you know,
because back then payphones were things like you got a quarter?
So he can call his wife, and you know, so
he gives him a quarter and then he calls collect.
Made me laugh so much, like, so you didn't even
use the quarter to call your wife? You called collect?

(14:06):
What the fuck are we doing here? But you wouldn't
need the quarter to call collect? Right, That's what I'm saying.
So I was like, I didn't understand that, right, that's
something like so you didn't even spend the quarter. Then
he was just like, now I'm a cheap asked to
collect Texas, I'm gonna invest us. But it seems like
the plot is to send is to force John mcclaim

(14:31):
to get somewhere by a certain time. They're going to
keep blowing things up. But it's just a red herring. Yeah,
it's all the rules to get them out of downtown
because and it works, yep, because they want to rob
the Federal Reserve, which has gold bars from every country.
But it seemed like just about every country had some
gold there.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
And once they get to the point like okay, there's
a bomber at school, which school, there's whatever that many
schools in New York.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Supposedly, Uh, I was I read about the uh that
the director McTiernan or whatever his name is mcn Yeah
he uh he got questioned by the FBI because he
knew so much about the Federal Reserve and supposedly he
just read an article on New York Times about it
and everything. But he apparently that article was detailed enough

(15:20):
that the movie was close enough to what the Federal
Reserve is that they that they were like, hey, buddy,
we'd like to have some you know.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, but they're like, wait, so somebody blew up the subway?
Did this they could get in? Yeah, that is interesting.
I'm sure they fixed Yeah what at the because of
the movie, they reinforced everything so that could never actually happen, right,
they can't do a die hard. And the reason they
were able to do this they set off a bomb

(15:50):
in the subway. Yeah uh and then you know again
the red herring to chase more bombs. The school was
forced to all the police had to go to every
school to uh.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Look for the bomb. Right. What I loved about the
man he even said they bought it hook nine sinker.
What I loved about his whole the whole ruse of
the school thing was they committed to the bit so
hard the bad guy's super committed were and where they
actually sent a fake bomb to a school like you
could have. I think it's one of those things where

(16:25):
you go, doesn't it work better if they're looking everywhere
and they still can't find it? Like, yeah, actually, you're right.
Why did they create it?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Because even the guy was trying to disarm it and
it went off and he was like maple syrup.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, oh I love that guy's character. He was just
a nut job. We have to like the bombs that
would first need to put a fake bomb? Right? Maybe
it was for the audience? Yeah, oh shit, they found that. Okay,
now what John's got to figure something out and it
was nothing right, Yeah, yeah, he could have told him
Chester A Arthur's sick or whatever gave him the vegas.

(16:57):
I love how they quickly came to the the conclusion
that half of twenty one, half of half of what's
twenty one half of or whatever it was, what's half
forty two two? Yeah, And they quickly figured out that
there was forty two presidents in these twenty first was
sester Ay Arthur and that's the school's Holy shit, we
came up with it, like they came up with that
super quick. Well I was digging that.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
So they had to keep going to locations, yeah, based
on like I guess, a clue, and but they had
to make it by a certain time. Yeah, that was
really an intriguing pot for them to keep trying to
make it. Like in the craziest way ever, Like even Zeus,
I used to drive a cab. Quickest way to get

(17:40):
to the subway station is south something whatever, and John
went to oposite ways like I told you, like, no, no,
quickest way is through the park park. Street's gonna be
blocked up. No, I didn't say street, Yeah, I said
in the park. And then it just rips through Central Park.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Oh yeah, I love that, and then just ramping over
for Rocks and I'm like, this is hilarious. I love
the people in the background. I'm sure it was dubbed
inner like asshole. It was like New York. It's New York.
There was definitely some people like asshole flipping them off.
Looks wrong with you. It was so good. There was
this weird.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Thing that happened, like, uh, it was supposed to be
play for comedy. But at one scene where John was
driving cut people off, a guy gut of his car
was like just looking at him. And then later when
someone's going down, the same guy's up in his office
building looking down, and eventually that same guy is surrounded
by a his coworkers are just kind of almost like doing
a eating a popcorn thing, just.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Watching, like the explosion on the subway. Yeah, it's like,
all right, that's supposed to be a little comic relief, but.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
It just yeah, I didn't like, why are we paying
so much time with this guy? Guy was cart gesturing
like what's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Bro? But then they kept bringing him back, but he
just keeps watching. You want craziness unfolding New York? He
want a contest on the radio to be an extra. Yeah,
well they were, but the.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
People but he and his friends eventually as they gathered
they weren't even It was almost like, yeah, this is
New York. Yeah what's going on?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh yeah, it's well, it's like the scene I said,
it's one of those scenes where you watch a movie
from nineteen or was it ninety five I think, or
ninety seven, I forget. Either way, you watch this movie
from then, and it's a joke that just falls flat
today where kids today, like people younger today, don't know
what a Yugo was a car. Oh my god. And

(19:33):
you're watching, like in the when you're watching it the
first time back in the day, you're watching him get
in as you go, and he's like, do you know
a hot wire? He's like, yeah, because I'm electrician. But
it takes too long and just sticks a screwdriver and
the right in the keyhole, which obviously wouldn't work. But
at the same time you're laughing because it's a fucking Ugo.
I was.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I was thinking low because it was you go, and
for people to don't know it was.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like the cheapest Yeah, it was a super cheap car.
Let me tell you it was made in the former
country Yugoslavia. Yes, it was the Yuga.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
And that part of me was like, ship, I bet
you if you jam a screwdriver and you actually might
actually started. So I never did any research. If it
was like the East Way steel, you go, this is
jam a screwdriver in it.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
So there was a uh, there was a raffle when
I was a young kid playing Little League baseball and
the one dealership raffled off a car. It was a
fucking you go. And the best part was was they
set a yugo at someone at one of the ball
fields for people to see and so they could you know,
get enticed to drop their raffle, you know, pay for

(20:38):
their raffle tickets. And uh, the thing was is like
apparently they didn't even lock it. They just left it
unlocked sitting at the ball field because it's a fucking
you go, Like it's not worth that much. Well, the
internet says no, you cannot start. You go with the screwdriver.
What's the internet nor as hell? Yeah, oh, man, just

(21:00):
carrying a screw drive around for your.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Keys, because like he was because he was like an electrician.
He's like, you asked to hot wire car. Of course
I do.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I'm an electrician. But we were not time for that.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Just James that right, and I was hoping it was
actually true.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Well that was another one of the moments I love
to watch because I'm black. This is another black like
he kept bringing up, was so good.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, no, Actually, Samuel Jackson was really good in this.
Oh it was an excellent, excellent partner to John. And
then uh, you know, a little electronics store. At the end,
he was he was becoming a badass too, not afraid too.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know that he could have bowed out like halfway
through the movie, been like, Okay, you don't need me anymore,
I'm out have fun. But he didn't.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
And because of that though, he did get a little pickle.
Well he got shot in the leg by the bad
ass because he tried to go in there and like
point a gun at him.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Hey, MacLean told him, if you find him, he'll be
a hero, and he he didn't. And also McClean didn't
tell him about the safety. Right, that's a pretty city. Yeah,
just cock this back. You read a rock.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
It was like he didn't tell Hi about the safety
and it did come into play. And I think that's
why Jeremy Irons was so chill, because he probably took
one look at the gun, so how the safety was
on and it was like, dude.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
In the same time, like I think about those things obviously,
that's what you want to believe is that he saw
it immediately. But I don't know that I could tell
that the safety's on a gun that quickly. You just saying,
he was just cool, like you know what I mean,
I'm sure that's what they're led to believe, is like, oh,
he knows because he'said he was a general or whatever.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
You Yeah, this guy was an electronics store. He's now
he's not gonna shoot me.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Which just on like side of Jeremy iron like Hans
Gruber Alan Rickman killed at Jeremy Irons. Also, yeah, great,
great villain.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I love that he's supposed to be, uh, the brother
of Hans, but he really doesn't give two fucks.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
No, he didn't even really give a fuck that John
killed him. No, I love it.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
It wasn't like he was out for revenge. I'm up
he did agree with John.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Right. Oh yeah, they said about your brother was an asshole,
right yeah. I mean there's a couple of lines I
remember is like, I love the like your brother's answer,
yeah he was an asshole, and he's like, but it's
a difference someone some irish flat foot drops him off
the thirties to floor of a building. But that and
the other line that I always use that no one
fucking ever gets is the line where he's suited up

(23:28):
as the American businessman, who's the contractor that's going to
clean up the Sunday after and he walks up and
he slips in back into his German accent like whenever
he's out of earshot of the one cop, and he's like, oh,
looks like somebody had fun. I love that line, and
I use it multiple times in my life and no
one ever gets it. But it's very obscure. So I

(23:50):
understand I'm right, but I just love that line. Looks
like somebody had fun.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
But there's too like when all the dumb trucks rolling,
he rolls in, like as a city contractors.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Like Paul Kreeg. Yeah, the one guy's like, oh, how'd
you get here so quick? Yeah? Well, if at a reserve,
you got a lot of rich people, you know, they
don't want to mess around. They we want to get
this resolved. And the cops like, oh, get I totally
get that makes sense, right, there's not a crime scene
here to cordon off. Yeah, right now, the cops they

(24:20):
would be definitely be like, fuck off, right, get the
fun crime scene. We gotta get the text down here
to like take samals we got we gotta figure out. Yeah, no,
they would never again, we're not supposed to think that deep,
right of course. Yeah, but no, Yeah, it's it's funny.
How like it's as much as it's like in a
real word and you step take a step back, you
look at it like that never happened, but that in

(24:43):
the moment, you're like, oh, it's a stressful situation, fast paced, Okay,
I could see some of this slipping by, you know.
That's that's the kind of the beauty of all the
die hard movies. Like as much as this was like
a two hour another two hour movie, but it didn't
seem like it. Everything's moving so quickly that they do
a great job of like, yeah, you don't think about
it because you're it's oh you got all you got

(25:03):
these five other things you're thinking about just watching the movie.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I got to say, like, when we sat down to
watch it, it was kind of again one of those things
like I don't really want to watch it, and I
don't want that to sound like a negative.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Did things going on?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's getting late, Like shit, I gotta watch this movie
and then put it on. I don't know if you
fell asleep on this one, you might have know No
you didn't, because once it got going, I'm like, oh, sheah,
I forget that. It has a pace that you don't
you just don't get bored. Right, It's moving, it's fun,

(25:37):
it's witty. It's not as good as the first two,
but it's got its moments where you're like that was
a shit ton of fun.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Oh like the whole Uh, I love, I love I
would love to have them keep going to have to
solve riddles, like really, I mean I would have watched
the entire movie where they had to keep getting to
the next stop. It's like, you know, geo cashing or
it was kind of fun because that one in the
water fountain, they figured out they had a three gallon

(26:06):
jug and a five gallon jug, but they had to
put exactly four gallons on this weight and you know,
under that stress everything and they kind of figured out
how to do it and disarmed the bond, which probably
wasn't it was probably maple syrup. It was to keep
them distracted, right, But I love that if it was like,
actually that was the plot, right, I was really into

(26:29):
them solving every trying to solve the problem.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, the whole like the and that's why
I like that was a great, great moment where like
it just shows off like how sharp John McLain was
where they make it. You know, they had to call
on an ambulance, they do all these things. They had
to go through, drive through the park just to get
to that payphone, you know, at at whatever time before
it went off. And McLain instantly realizes after they get there,

(26:53):
he's like, what are the odds of us making there?
Like zero? He's like, that was going to go off
no matter what, like he was fucking with us. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like I said, John McLean possibly the smartest cop ever.
And the sums at the same time, Well, when they're
on the bridge and uh, I did love the scene

(27:15):
again one of the unbelievable ones. Well actually on a
backup because I loved the scene where they they're chasing
the dump trucks and they get like the one comic
relief guy the entire movie, the dump truck driver that
helped him figure out who the twenty first president was,
Like m lou, I want to call him Chester just

(27:35):
because that's Chester. I forget his name now, but yeah,
but yeah, like that, even that whole scene was Jerry,
but he was great. He was great. I love that scene,
like the whole chase them through the tunnel and the
guy like they talked to the foreman on the site
of this aqueduct that they've been building for apparently one
hundred years, and he's like, I was about to kick

(27:57):
those guys' asses who are not loading down at that
and they're loading Like so you just watched like a
dozen dump trucks go through the tunnel the wrong way,
and you're like, yeah, they're fucking idiots. Like he didn't
call anybody like nothing, They're just letting them. He just
look at his maps, his maps, like what are you doing.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
You weren't kicking anybody's asses, right, that's why they went
down that tunnel.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, but even that scene, then they blow the damn
that the aqueducts holding back and I'm sitting there laughing
because John McLain is the CGI. Well, no, it was fine,
it was I was laughing at that. I was laughing
at the c GA. True. But John mclains standing like
what thirty feet away from his dump truck, uh, trying

(28:39):
to fix this ramp that's that fell up fell apart,
and we.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Which is mean, I'm like, bro for dump trucks to
drive over that steel plate. Yeah, you're not thinking it
he even got like a like a pipe is like,
I'll use like a leverage. No, dude, they probably use
a crane to drop that in place.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Right, Woul, I would probably just tried driving over before
I try lifting it like with.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Two wheels on, Like why I'm surprised you didn't try
where he like backs up and.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Just goes faster. It goes faster as long as one
tires got three points of contact, We're good. But he's
like out of the truck and he here. You hear
the rush. They didn't show blowing up the dam They
shood and putting the bomb on, which apparently they just
have a couple of spare bombs with them, and so
they blow up the wood holding the damn back. And

(29:29):
he's just sitting there with his gun out and you
just hear the water rushing and he looks up and
you can see the shadow of the dark shadow of
it coming and he stares at it for a little bit.
I'm like, dude, if you're in a that water is
already there. It's like it's there's another Once you say it,
you had like a They gave him like a minute
to get back to his truck. He's like when you
hear it, dude. Yeah, back tried and tried to back

(29:50):
it up. They forgot like a thing where he was
able to like truck ye, like it's a fucking dumb truck.
They don't they don't move that fast.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
And the yeah he's not fast, and the furious dump trucks.
But he made it seem like that, right, it was
Tokyo drift. He had to think slide right around.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I'd love to be on set to like to see
if if they had a guy that could do it,
because i mean, I'm sure it wasn't there's there's definitely
a driver, right, but I mean it wasn't a regulation
dump truck. There had to be some modifications. But I'd
love to have seen that happen in real life. That
had been great and then because they sold earlier. Oh no,
Chester got his name.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Maybe it was Lou, Maybe it's Jerry, the actually Josh
dump truck driver and sat down was telling him, like
we get the impression that.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Jerry is just a fountain of useless information. Yes, he's
into he's trivia, he's mister X exposition.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, if he was talking about, like how the length
of this thing that every two hundred feet every two miles.
Every two miles, there's a Yeah, there's an exit to
the vent or surface. Yeah, so we know em like
he's got to get one of those yea, and he does.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Oh, and he would have broken every rib grabbing that thing. Right,
Like he's on top of the dump truck and decide
when the water blows him out of the bank and
he goes I don't know what thirty forty feet here
when he lands back down, like, I'm pretty sure he's dead.
It was John mcclan, right, we landed and he landed water,
so it broke his fall. He's a puddle. The water

(31:25):
made mud. It was a softer landing thing, just dirt. Yeah,
or at this point is John McClean the undead? I
think he's Actually he'd shoot him. You can shoot him
out of you know, a cannon. He's like, he just
keeps coming. He's actually been playing his character from Unbreakable
the entire time, Right, he is Unbreakable. We didn't know it. Yeah,

(31:46):
he's a backstory. These these movies are backstory to Unbreakable, right,
the prequels. Actually I'm a thumb. He's like Wolverine. Actually,
I'm three hundred and forty six years old. Snick, Andy, Snick,
that's me popping club for all your book nerds out there.
Easy Jay, it's Neogans. Should we take a quick break, Yeah, probably,

(32:09):
and then we'll be right back with more John McLean
And we're back right when last we loved you, John
McLean still had a headache. John McLean was shooting thirty.
He said the entire day I have a really bad hangover,

(32:29):
and in my head I went, man, you've done somebody
enuff with adrenaline that you would have got rid of that.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I know, But with writing, was intentional that a hangover because.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yep led us to the last scene, well not the
last scene, but the.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
But it there's a reason he keeps asking for aspiring
and saying I have a really bad hangover, and it
works within the writing.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, oh you're right.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Once the adrenaline kicked in and everything he was doing,
he wouldn't have head they were Once he came down
off of that adrenaline, he would have been like been
like shit.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
They were running whenever they were running to the fountain payphone,
Like I was like, if you have a bad headache,
here're not running two miles to a fountain, which I saw.
An interesting point about that was someone wrote an article
about like the whole the math problem whatever, and I
was like, I'm surprised it took this person that long
to figure it out in their head, because they don't

(33:23):
tell you in the movie how to solve the problem.
So this guy saw in the theater was like, oh,
I wasn't like he was younger too, but like a kid.
But he was like, I took me forever to try
to figure it out. And he's like, but it was
a genius, because like, that problem is something that you see.
I've seen it in multiple things throughout my life, not
necessarily movies whatever, but like the three and five? How

(33:43):
do you get four? And he's like yeah, but a
lot of people left at theaters and they were still
talking about the thing for years, like that thing, because
you know, if you don't really like apply yourself to
think about it too hard, you're like, yeah, how do
they fucking do that? You know, it's a it's a
mystery if you don't if you're not you know, thinking
about it too hard, you just because you don't care.
But it's always like, yeah, that's a fucking crazy He's like, yeah,

(34:05):
six months later, a year later. Every time I talk
to someone about die Hard three, there's talking about that
goddamn three and five gallon thing. They always remember that scene.
You know. It's like, that's true. You don't think about
stuff like that, Like you didn't show the solution. You
just showed them going, oh, yeah, we just need to
do this. Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at IMDb.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Someone has broken it down, this giant paragraph about there are.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Two solutions to the water jug riddle, right, I do
remember when I watched it. Yeah, that was one of
the things I was I kind of thought about. I mean,
it didn't take that long to go like okay, you know,
to figure out like okay, you dump it here and
empty it, dump it. But yeah, it was Do you
want to hear his solution? Oh god, if it's that complicated,

(34:51):
I don't know. If I do.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
One Phil, Phil the five gallon jug and decant the
water in the three gallon jug.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
This leaves two gallons because he's fancy.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
This leaves two gallons in the big jug, Empty the
three gallon jug and pour in the two gallons from
the five gallon jug. Leave a space for one gallon
in the small jug number three, Refill the five gallon
jug and pour water from it into the three gallon
jug until the small JUG's full.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
All right, look, I can't keep going like is this?
What was the right? Like? This? This is it? That's it?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
That leads exactly four gallons in the big jug. Put
it on scale and the bombs disarmed. Second method is
fill a three gallon jug and pour the water into
five gallon jug.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
It's way more complicated.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Refill a three gallon jug and pour it into the
five gallon jug until the big jug is full, leaving
one gallon in the small jug. Empty the big jug
and transfer the one gallon from the small jug into
the big jug. Refill the small jugg and pour three
gallons into the big Okay, resulting in four gallons.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
But I love the on the phone. He's like one
ounce more or less and it will go off And
I'm like, there's no no way you could keep it
within an ounce with two just plastic jugs like that.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's one of those scenes to what you're watching, You're like,
You're like, you're trying. I was trying to solve how
are they gonna do it? Yeah, Like I got caught
up in if I was in some type of challenge,
could I solve this?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
And how quick can I solve it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
But that's like I wasn't even paying attention to the acting.
I was just thinking, like, how all right, how do
you do it?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's what got me was the the amount of time,
Like the amount of time it takes to fill up
the five gallon, then pour it into the three, then
mp the three, then pour it again. That's five minutes.
Is tight. And they showed them arguing a lot, like
it's not like they had a solid plan. They just
it makes it almost seems like they just dummed into it.
But like that would take a lot of time just

(37:00):
filling jugs, emptying jugs. Okay, now empty that one, Now
fill this one again, Like it would take a little bit,
Like five minutes is a tight window.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Well, there you go, that's the solution. I think that's
the way I would go. The more you know, the
second method that I read seems to be the easiest.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Well that was fun. I could have kept watching them
having to go to the next station and solve the problem.
It was like it was like a game show. I
loved it, but it wasn't a game show. It was
just just life. It was just distract the cops. Why

(37:40):
you know.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
They rob the Federal Reserve, yet nobody downtown. Nobody, Yeah,
it thinks this is strange. Yeah, except John McLean, like
the are the only people downtown or cops, because once
the cops leave, nobody gives a fuck downtown.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Nope, there's nothing happening downtown. We got to worry about
them kids. Yeah, well, I mean they were right once
they learned the news, it's gonna cause chaos. Oh yeah,
well that's and I was like, man, if the guy,
the news guy from the first two shows up, he's dude,
he definitely should have been the one on TV telling
people that there's a ball into schools. And yes, that

(38:20):
would have been amazing if he could do one more
pars Performers where he's a douchebag, because I mean, that
guy looked the part. He looked like a He had
a very punishable face, you know, oh yeah, and he
just had a very pompous looking face that you're like, yeah,
you could see him getting punched, and this would have
been a perfect role for him to somehow write him
in to be the guy who figures that out and

(38:42):
like and then just causes ultimate chaos in the city
where he says, yeah, your kid's gonna blow up. That
seems right around his thing, right, like, Hey, your kid's
gonna blow up. I'm a great reporter. Your kid's gonna
blow up. Maybe I might win a Nobel Prize for
my reporting. The cops are trying to hide it from you, man.

(39:05):
But yeah, then we get to the this is funny like.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
The sex scene between Jeremy Irons and Sam Phillips was
added the last minute because the director knew the film
would get in an R rating from the MPAA. Uh,
and he was like, might as well have a sex
scene then.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I mean it was the most bland of sex scene.
It wasn't like there was any nudity. Yeah, no, like
you guys like even like each other. But I mean,
I mean that chick was hot because she was like
in shape, stone cold killer. Oh yeah, in shape, just badass, Like,
of course she's hot. But that's I don't mean that
that scene where they it was great because this is

(39:49):
one of the few movies where Rachel watched the entire
thing with me. She didn't have something else to do,
so she's sitting next to me, and uh, he goes.
The guy's like, we can pack up the chopper and
we can be where in ten minutes. I was like,
if Jeremy Irons would just look at him and go like,
don't worry, I want to do it twice, that would
have been great. It would have been the joke. I

(40:10):
would tell her, Oh, yeah, so we're doing it twice, sweet,
let's go now. He goes, take your time because he's
a professional. Yeah. A lot of interesting facts on IMDb
about the movie. I heard Bruce Willis apparently this was
his least favorite Diehard because he thought it was more
like a buddy cop movie. And I'm like, I don't know,

(40:30):
Samuel Jackson's a badass, Like he's pretty hot.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
It was a buddy cop, but in a really good way, right,
There was nothing wrong with it. Like, I don't think
Sam stole the show from him. No, I think it
was a good compliment for him to have a buddy
the other ones.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Uh well, Diehard Wan.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Was sort of a buddy cop cop was just on
the outside.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
And on a radio.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, but they definitely made at the end like there
was a bit of a romance. And then when he
was a cop in La that they got They were
really hanging out.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Right, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. They called him like he
was you know what Lou was? Uh?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Uh looks still like in uniform, like a beat cop.
You know, he didn't get help?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Uh was Lou? Yeah? Say who's Lou? Lou? Wait? Uh?
From the first movie? Uh? The ow you keep calling
him Lou Reginald L. Johnson Ow.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I think he would have got should have got al
bumped up the detective, so they could have been partners
in the second movie.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
That would have been awesome. Yeah. Oh yeah, Like I said,
John just needs a friend, Yeah, just needs a buddy,
buddy cop. It was a It was a definitely a
buddy cop movie. Not not in a bad way, no, uh,
but yeah like that. So we got the end scene
where they're I mean, I love the fact that they

(41:54):
somehow knew that the gold was looted on that ship
already like this coming down the river and they're they're
on they're they're in a truck that they took from
two guys they killed, and the fact that they the
fact that it's just sheer hubris that they thought that

(42:14):
they were going to hook this this winch off the
front of this truck to this ship and climb down
in time when they're the slowest two people climbing a
cable ever saw in my life.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well, I know, yeah, so they were getting out of die,
they're getting all the going out.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
And this talk boat or a boat.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, but I love how there's a big giant crane
on it and just like I can make it right,
we can know these cables will rip you in half.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, And then like, but what if we hook a
cable through.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
That crane, yeah that's attached to this truck on the bridge,
and then climb down it right, I'm like, and what
happens when.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
To the truck that the cables attached to. Well we
found out, Yeah, but their playing didn't seem like they
they stopped right because they're pulling. They're pulling the cable
off this winch. And I was like, by the time
it got to the truck, I feel like that's about
maximum length of it. You know, you don't have a
quarter mile of cable on on the front winch of
a truck, you know. Yeah, And so they hook it

(43:18):
and I'm like, okay, you're probably you're you're already past
the max distance of this cable. You need to be chucking,
you know, chucking down that freaking cable to get to that. No,
they're going no, and they're just taking their sweet ass time.
I thought they're gonna pull.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Like a stallone move from that one movie where he
was in prison with Arnold. Maybe it's Arnold where they
used their belts or some leather straps to like slide down.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Uh, I can't think of Stone was in prison wires hmm.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
It wasn't the one where he was like an expert
escaping because he's an expert helping prisons make it escape proof.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
There was another one. I'm pretty sure he was in
prison with armld Swarzenegg. Yeah, I remember that. Hmm. I
did watch a MythBuster. So they try to slide down
a cable on jeans because you always see that a lot, Okay,
and it didn't work at all because the cable just
shreds it. Oh No, they don't go anywhere because the
cables are so coated with like grease and ship and
they're in there and they're not slippy. It's not like

(44:13):
slippy grease. It's you know, lubricating grease so it can
go through the gears and you know they you know,
the winches and everything. So they just sat there and
they're like just trying to they wouldn't move at all.
That's pretty funny. Well, I got I find that movie
for you. Yeah, but they use like belts, I'm pretty sure.
Like again, I gotta remember back. But like if you're

(44:34):
a prisoner, you don't have a belt. They don't want
you to be able to hang yourself. So it might
have been another material.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
But yeah, they zip down on the wires on the
telephone pole from the prison.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
This whole cinema Next Time movie, We're still for Sylvester
Sloan was a prisoner. I would love to do a
whole backyard event where we put these things to the test.
I told Nash Next World Strongest Bro, we should the
Cliffhanger hold might make an appearance the Cliffhanger Hole. Could
we like set up I wired that we have to

(45:06):
zipline off your off of your deck down and crash.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Into something into my shed. I mean I was thinking
more like, oh, hey, bales or star from the blocks.
I mean I won't even get hurt.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Wow, But just to try to prove or disprove movie magic, Yeah,
but definitely see if you get hold of what was
she supposed to be like one hundred and twenty. I
figured a thirty five pound kettlebell would be more than enough.
Thirty five Yeah, because you know we're all going to fail. Well,
we already did a h a fat grip dead hang

(45:43):
on one of the first years we did World Strongest
bro and there wasn't a lot of competition there. There's
only a couple of people that could really propose.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
One hand on the bar, yeah, one hand on a
thirty five pound kettlebell.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, and how long can you hold it? Yeah? Solid, solid,
solid contest should be over. Pretty cool. Don't don't don't
sleep on the zip line. That could be a cool
That could be a cool event. I'm not saying it
couldn't be. That sounds dangerous. Cost money to put that on. True.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
True, But then we got used things like whatever they
did in the movie, whether it was about or the
uh oh, we should try climbing out of window with
bed sheets, were time it or not?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Like we own some of those escape prison movies. Yes,
I got ideas again. This year's World Songs movie held
up Mark's House. The World's Strongest Movies wand Strongest movies.
Well we'll debunk, right, is this even possible? Yeah? Yes,
So they're they're climbing out of the cable. Obviously, the

(46:50):
truck runs out of cable and it falls, and I
love that they get falls and McLean's first he that
cable hits the like you know, reaches up and hits
the tower on the boat and he grabs a hold
of the tower as the cables between him, like it's
between him and the and it just pulls, you know,
rip some booth back off of it, and they fall

(47:11):
into a container. I just loved it. I don't know
why I loved it so much, but I love Samuel
Jackson and he's like, man, I'm glad you talked me
out of jumping. I love how the cable what's the snaps?
Just the cuts a dude in a half that's a
bad guy in half and uh, McLean and.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Zeus have to each take a half, which Zeus keeps
it almost like I was like you got the presson
that he was gonna puke every time he looked at
the dead body. Yeah, but they they eased to take
a half and like pull it back, I guess into
hiding which yeah, no one's gonna know. There was an
issue like there's blood in everything everywhere, which.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
That's what cracked me out, was like this is purely
for comedic relief, because like, there's no reason to clean
that body of at all.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Man, the amount of goo coming out and probably you
see where they dragged it back.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Into the underneath the stairs or sword or whatever yet
be a massive blood trail, and nobody like, oh nobody, Yeah,
you're right.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
He was straight up for comedic effect. Yeah, there's no
reason to move the dead body.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Because you see the guy like the cable cutting this
dude in half, but you don't think about it whenever.
They just walk up and McLean's like, all right, you
get his legs, so he grabs his hands and you
see like you think you're going to carry and Zeus
grab his legs and turns the same way as McLean
as they both you know, pulled half of him away.
There's a whole movie called ghost Ship. The whole movie,

(48:38):
I suppose what a half movie.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
There's a movie called ghost Ship, and that it's a
you know, the backstory is like.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I guess somebody murdered.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Something happened with a cable remember it was murder or malfunction,
but all these people were partying like New Year's Eve
or something on the ship and this cable snapped and
went through and just oh god, it's.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Actually a pretty decent It's an underrated horror movie. Okay, nothing, Yeah,
this is not a ghost cinemas's a small cinema. But
those people were jacked. So I think cables on big
bus like that. Oh yeah, snap, for sure. Yeah, there's
definitely that wasn't definitely wasn't an exaggeration, yeah you know, yeah,

(49:27):
oh yeah, then uh yeah, they get on that boat.
It kind of it's there's less action on the boat
than you'd kind of think for being like kind of
the one of the final sequence of that guy's the
penultimate sequence really and yeah, so yes, that's when that's
when we get to the part where Samuel they split up.
Samuel finds Jeremy Iron. He finds Jeremy Irons and he

(49:50):
has a safety on, gets shot in the leg, drag
him away and any time any time to the bomb
was a pretty fun fun scene. Yeah, I mean this
time or real bomb, right, Yeah, well that was gigantic.
That was that was my whole thing when even the
first time I watched this, I remember them going like
because at the beginning of the movie they go, it's
anybody missing these chemicals and they go like, yeah, X.

(50:11):
They immediately found like X companies got two thousand pounds
on it stolen, And whenever they say there's a bomb
in the school, they he says twenty four hundred pounds
a bomb and just going I was like, well, that's
obviously not true because they had a couple of small ones.
That's more than even stole. So I don't know as
a kid, even as like a you know, twenty year old,
I was like, that's bullshit. Your question the movie, for

(50:33):
some reason is they're supposed to do that. As a kid,
I was like, what the fuck they just said they
that's more than what they even stole. But yeah, so
now they have the rest of this two thousand pounds
on this boat and it's I mean the boat, they're
the bomb. The way they explain it, it's a fun
visual bomb. But it doesn't look like a bomb at all.

(50:53):
It's hilarious, right. It looks like two big tanks of
It's like something I would see you like a brewery
or yeah, like i'd always imagined it like kind of
like a like a doctor's office where you have your
syringes and you're just squeezing the one into the other one,
because that's what it is, like, the squeezing the red
and the white. Yeah, yeah separately, Yeah they're fine together.

(51:19):
Yeah boom uh.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
And we get that earlier in the movie where the
one guy who's geeking out on how thee so fucking cool,
he takes just a little bit like on a excuse me,
a paper clip and then throws it. It blows the
leg of a chair off. So John McClean gets a
little bit on like an edge of like.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Look like it almost like a ty iron or something,
holes and the stuff, and I'm like, he pu gets
he poked holes.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
He had enough on that based on the earlier scene,
he should have blue Zeus's but he used enough just
to break the handcuffs, right. Zeus is like, oh man,
But again earlier it was like it blew the leg
of a chair off. Su should have had like missing fingers,
Yeah I couldn't. Like he was setting off fireworks and

(52:09):
fucked up hell too long.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
In the I love like this, like you get the
last like is it because your racist scene right before
that when he's like, hey, can you pick this lock?
Is this another black thing or whatever? It's like no, but yeah,
I can pick a lot because I'm a locksmith. I
love it because I love the time. Yeah, it made
a piece of that cable. I'm huge, Like what do

(52:32):
you say it's about three or four inch? Yeah, oh yeah,
it made it. Made the scene where you go like, oh,
the cable was between him and the tower and made
it mix. Oh, we showed that because it ripped him
back out, So that put the cable in his army.
As much as it seemed like a throwaway thing, you
were so stupid, you need to do it, because one,
it made him look more badass because his entire right

(52:54):
side was then covered in blood and grime. But he
had that cable fiber in it where they pulled it out. Yeah.
But yeah, Zeus picks his lock, he blows the cuffs
because he drops it then and he blows the cable
to the thing, and they there's no way they survived that.
They're not even off the boat before it blows up, right,
it blew them into the water. They were in the
but even in the water, the concussion, Oh.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
My god, underwater, Yeah, what have cause even they survived
would have caused they.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, their brains would have yelted.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Yeah, and I feel like under even underwater, I felt
like I saw studies like the concussion alone, I'm a bomb.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
If you're near it, you're getting you're getting sucked up. Yeah. Yeah,
there's especially the way they built up the explosiveness of
that that material.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Right, and it really none of it was that big,
Like the explosion was like for the what they looked
like they were holding like eighty ninety bus gallons. So
this thing should have this should have taken out half
of Jersey, vaporized that boat. Yeah, because the big plan

(54:02):
was that they were stealing the gold from themselves.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
They actually weren't sinking it to the bottom for whatever
right they tried to pause. They were acting like, oh,
we're the terr Yeah, the terrorist basically making every country
bankrupt by sinking their gold, which is hilarious because you
know they can just they're going to spend whatever money
they need to go get it from the bottom of
the ocean because they weren't that far out. But now
they were like we were a country, we were an

(54:26):
army with no country, but now with all this money.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Of course, then John McLean, Yeah stops simply because of
an aspirin bottle did now?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
So in the meantime before before that, like Jeremy Irons
and the chick that he has like the mini sex
scene with before that, she was with his like right
hand man who found out that oh it's not golden
the containers and then she shoots him. Guy my thunt On.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
That was like he was the only one that really
believed they were doing it this terrorist group.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah, like he has all the other guys like, yeah,
they didn't give a ship like they It seems like
he was the only one not in on it, Like
how do you kill? You in on it? Right? He
the only one was like, yeah, we're doing this, yeah
for our group, for yeah, for for our country, for whatever. Yeah,
he was the only one who was in and everybody
else is like, yeah, we're in this for the gold
it's just this Yeah. But then you shot him and

(55:20):
then but then you get that weird just awkwardness that
I don't know why they put it in, Like I couldn't.
I mean, it's a throwback to that, but I don't
know why the one guy there like he's like, yeah, tomorrow,
we decided which country you want to buy. And the
guy's like two fallen comrades, real fucking buzz and everybody
like they don't even know that they lost anybody. Right,

(55:40):
He's like, the follow what did you know? He was
going to kill him?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
I actually the way even I feel like the way
Jeremy Iron has looked at.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Him, it's like you son of a bitch, Like all right, well,
and she's like, oh you're dead. Yeah, I'm gonna go
to the blond. The Blond's gonna kill you next.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
She seems to be taking out people that oppose what
you're up to. Yeah, because it almost I there was
it felt like he might feel like something's up right,
you know what I'm saying it toes to our full
the comrade, and I thought he was like calling him
out right because but they just didn't go anywhere with
no Yeah. I mean, I'm sure they were planning maybe

(56:17):
killing that guy later, but John McClean showed up and
screwed up that.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I just screwed it all up.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
So when they were like handcuffed in that boat and
John said again about I got a headache from this hangover. Yeah, uh,
Cherry Arden is like, you know what, well.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
In the beginning, if you remember when they go through
the profile, all we know about is he has always
has migraines. I forgot that. I thought I was just
like I got, yeah, we know about here's lucky. I
actually have to have a headache pills on him. He
was ex general. He's this he always has, uh, you know,
chronic migraines. Because there was an earlier shot where I
think it's before they go like at some point before

(56:55):
they go through the tunnel with the with the dump
trucks that he pops aspiring bottle.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Established when you're writing the script, you got to put
this ship in otherwise people are like, bullshit, you gotta
have those callbacks, man. Yeah, and there was then he
chucked him hiss aspirin landing perfectly Inness rough right.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
He is a He should have been a quarterback. He
was a deadly aim.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
But even after you think it's like the end of
the movie and it's kind of like, man, the bad
guys get away with this, but John still alive. Yeah,
uh he everybody's getting passed up. It feels like the
very end, Zeus is getting medical attention. He's like like, uh,
it wouldn't be okay if a movie ended like that,

(57:36):
f y F they have the bad guys one. But yeah,
you know you to be continued, man, right to be continued.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Set up with this but Zeus, it feels like the
end of Zeus, Like, hey, man, you got a quarter,
get this guy a quarter. You call your wife, you
stubborn asshole.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
So he does, but he he takes he pulls the head,
he peels out, throws a bunch down, pulls the bottle
down in the phone booth. Yeah, for anybody listening, Yeah,
I know I love Yeah, before cell phones.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I did love to find a phone booth to phone.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
In fact, even like the whole beginning of the movie,
like they had to get the next phone booth to.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Be called just about every diehard that phone booth.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
I remember phone booth. So I was never taken out
of the movie. But I can imagine if you like.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
What the fuck is the phone booth?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
I don't know if like you, I don't know how
much you would enjoy going You need to get this
phone booth.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I'm gonna call you in fifteen minutes. If you're like so,
He's like, well, yeah, I get my phone on they
call me whenever you want. Uh, I don't know if
you know. There's a really fun movie actually movie in
like the early two thousands called Phone Booth with Colin Farrell,
right like lost on today's generation, No idea, what's that?
But when he's in the phone Booth after taking the aspert,

(58:52):
he pulls the bottle down and.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
On its side and he sees the bottom. Yeah, and
it triggers like, oh, I know where he bought these pills?
Nor where does lignis or I don't know how you
pronounce it French.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yeah, but it means what north of the border. North
of the border, Yeah, apparently the biggest truck stop in Canada. Right,
that's what it said on the sign. You know when
it goes down there hookers and blow? Am I wrong?
That's probably exactly what goes down. We know south of
the Border it's vampires on fireworks because we watched and

(59:29):
we already talked about that movie. Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot. Yeah,
I was thinking of the actual South of the Border
store in like South Carolina. I was thinking of uh
yeah dawn dust yeah dust still done? Yeah, oh yeah.
Fun fun side note when you're like you say about
a truck stop. What goes down there is I've known

(59:51):
money truck drivers where, you know, when I grew up
and one of my buddy's dad had his own truck
driving business, so he would have to get in a
trucker once a while. At one point he had his
like I don't know, five or six year old boy
with him how to do a long haul just and
uh I was coming back. He's like, hey, buddy, I
gotta stop over. He I just got to sleep for
a little bit. I's gotta get a nap, Like I'm

(01:00:12):
I'm endangering everybody if I keep driving type thing. You know. So,
and he had a sleeper with you know, chuck. So
he pulls over and he goes and his kid was
young and he was he had already slept while they're driving.
He was just playing his old video games, like, hey,
you I'm gonna lock the doors. You play a video game.
I'm just gonna catch quick five, you know. So he's like, man,
I'm not even not even back in the in the

(01:00:34):
bunk for like five minutes, and there's a knocking on
the door and he's like, god damn it. He's actually
opens it up and there's a lady of the evening.
He's like, hey, need company, buddy. He's like, hey, no,
thank you. Uh And if you could tell the other
girls like I have my kid with me, And it
was funny because she's like, oh, I'm so sorry. He's like,
no problem. I'll let the girls know, Like just like

(01:00:55):
a lot lizards, I'll have no idea. I never heard
that one. I just know I no no idea. Yeah yeah,
so yeah. They go the biggest truck stop in Canada
and there they are, And I couldn't figure out if
they were in a building that was open on top

(01:01:15):
or not, because at one point the helicopter you see
it through the ceiling and then all of a sudden,
it looks like they're in a warehouse. I couldn't fell
out that also, like how like you found the exact
warehouse you needed. It wasn't hard, which which is great
because when last we left them, Zeus is getting his
leg bandage up John McLean's and you know, and getting

(01:01:39):
stitched up and everything else. Yet they decide to put
them in an unarmed helicopter to be the first ones
to make contacts, which is great because that's when you
get the line where they're the improvised sex scene or whatever.
And the girl grabs Jeremy Iron's gun and starts shooting,
and you say, we're actually going She looks past McLean.

(01:02:01):
I just love that I left. Oh, she looks pissed.
I'm like, could they really see that? Yeah? Could you
see from the hype? That's funny? Yeah? And John wins
the day. Yeah, I mean yeah he has he gets again.
He's left with at the end of another movie with
two bullets in his gun. And instead of which I laughed,
he's like, show me that fucking smile, motherfucker. And I'm like,

(01:02:24):
he just did, And what do you do? You take? Like,
you shoot a cable that's fifty yards away with two
shots and knock it out and take out the entire healck,
I'm like, or or just shoot the guy with the
big gun. True.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
But when he shot the cable, I'm like, I don't know, man,
that looks like a thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
He got two bullets. Yeah, Oh that's I mean, like,
there's no way, man, are you really that great of
a shot? Like that's like some that's some sharp shooter,
right kind of shit. That's why That's why I was
like that's like just pudding now the snumb nose. Yeah, revolve,
I just don't. I don't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
But it works in the movie, right because cables, man,
the whole theme of the movie was cables the last
minutes because yeah, and the power lines, the cables they
go down, and the blades of the hilloicapter because I'm
all tangled up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Yep, there's no way.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Look, I would love to see MythBusters or Swollbusters. See
can we take a thirty eight from the where he
was standing and actually be that accurate?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Anyone? Like? Not just us? Yeah, like I know, I'm
not like I'm shot like one. Well, we wouldn't. We
would just be the host. Hey, welcome to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
They say, Swollbusters, Welcome to Swollbusters.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
We're gonna find out can you do that? Yeah? MythBusters
are still on the air. That'd be a solid one, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
We can take every bullshit thing from an action movie. Fuck,
why are we not pitching this?

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
MythBusters did a lot of them. They had several episodes
of just what we would do from uh even from
Rocky stuff, I mean from Salon stuff. Yeah, maybe, I
don't know. I know they did some movie once we
will send some people.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Wow, can you can you survive with only but a
bowie knife in the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I'm sure there's some people that can't do that. Oh no,
there's definitely people do that. Fucking boy scouts out there.
But we gotta find and they will will find, like
the best marksmen in the world, give the Olympic, give
them person see if you can shoot a Can you
shoot the stable and have it fall down and then
fall into that helicopter? And it's gonna take a big
budget Netflix. So if you want, yeah, can you take

(01:04:39):
out that drone? People like I think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
People would love if we if somebody would reenact action
movies and see it as it possible. Of course, there's
there's something there that's very expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Because we gotta blow. We gotta has explosions, explosions, we
gotta blow. Shut up. I mean, we say we can't
pull this off in our backyards.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
That's that's how it starts. We'll do like a little
promo like yo, hey, Netflix, this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Is our It starts with the cliffhanger challenge. Yeah, like, sorry,
this is my wife. I'm gonna hold her above this cliff.
I'm gonna hold her off the deck. See how long
I got hold? Okay, I got we got some pads
down there, fix sal land okay ship. Yeah, So would you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Like to see us make uh what I call it again?

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Why can't remember? I was gonna say swoltz swoll explosions. Yeah, swolbusters.
We'll bust every action movie. Can it be done? Uh?
I know you're dying for the episode where we see
can we try to ramp a horse off? The horse

(01:06:00):
up and then we hang on them? Yeah? What would
the horse go for the swimming pool? We just need
a big budget, right, I need to buy a horse,
need by rent because I don't think, yeah, we don't
need it. I don't know if we're going to return
the horse though.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, what's the biggest most ridiculous stunt we should episode one?

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Right? I mean a guy riding a motorcycle off in
the pool and him trying to do with a horse. Right,
Oh hilarity, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I'd start small. Really, can we get a horse into
an elevator and go to the top floor?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Stunt? One? Can get a horse and do an elevator?
And what was there like two people that we're talking about?
Those two other people? Two people? And does the horse
a uh not kicking and murder people in the elevator,
or at least be just take a massive ship.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
He's the nervous poops. It's all right, yeah, yeah, where
would you like to start? What's episode one of school Busters? Busters?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
But anyway, uh die Hard three? Yeah, let's I give it. Yes,
it's it's not as good as the Yellowes. I still
give it like an eight or nine. It's still really good. Nine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Fun man, I'll go like against seven. It was good,
but I only because I think one and two is better.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh yeah, and I think I
would rank him exactly in their number ordered one, uh
two and three in that or that how they are.
I don't think they made any more after that that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
We're not gonna talk about them. They did, and they
keep getting worse. But a fun die Hard movie. It
didn't quite capture the magic of the first two for me,
but it was fun and I do like Samuel L.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Jackson. He kicked ass. John McClean was still like, I
don't know that funny.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Uh uh fun fact that her funny unassuming cops that
still figures out a way to take down the bad
guy even when the bad guy has like hundreds of
bad guys and machine guns and one guy with a little.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Pistol in a tank top. You can fucking do it.
So apparently after they did one, that's what they pretty
much you know, put Pruce Willis on the map. Was
die hard, and they came back to do two. And
by the time they came back, like he wasn't just
you know, kind of unknown actor. He was now he
was a fucking celebrity and he wanted to do John
McClain like serious, like, no, no, we can't do the

(01:08:35):
jokey I'm like cause it was like he had the
complex of like, no, I'm actually a star now I
can't do this campy you know, jokey cop guy, the
thing that made me famous, and they like apparently it
was a big fight and they ended up they ended
up doing like they get he they compromised by doing
he could do as many serious takes as he wanted
to for each of the jokey one liners that he had,

(01:08:57):
and he did one take of the fun comedic line,
and they said they used every single comedic take. He's like,
we just like the like the scene where he like
he was at the rental thing at the airport and
he's like she's trying to fact stuff to ow and
he's like she's like, oh, well maybe later, and he's
and she's like, well maybe later, we could you need

(01:09:19):
like she shows a ring like just the fax, ma'am,
like one take and they used the one that was
funny like and yeah, and so this one you could tell,
like I could so knowing that about the second you
could tell this one was even more pulled back, because
I'm sure it was probably Bruce Willis going like, no,
I want to I'm a serious actor, like just pounding
the table like no, I'm I'm a real actor. I'm

(01:09:41):
a real boy. Yeah, all right, Mark, that's it. What's next?

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Oh that's sorry. We didn't do shot for shoting more
to do a shouts. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
I thought about this a little bit also by looking
around to be but I gave up. And I don't
know if it's a we have.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
To rent it or one of us owns it, but
a classic the rock nice Yeah, I actually just saw
our little Bard and Nicholas. It's a good one. I
like it. Okay, it's a wonderful string of pearls or
whatever said whatever he says. But I remember this being

(01:10:21):
I haven't seen it for a few years, but it's badass.
Oh yeah yeah. And then we got a myth bust
and you know we cool. Yeah, I'm down all right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Remember if you want us to start making this show, email,
says Swool Cinema at gmail dot com, or just to
give us your ideas for upcoming movies. Thank you for listening. Hey,
it's twenty twenty five, right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
That's what they say. Let's go New Year, New I've
been chanted. I'm still yeah, still drinking, still drinking, all right,
peace out, Keep living that weight, bitches,