Ep 47 - The Matrix

Swole Cinema Episode 47 is here, and it’s time to choose… red pill or blue pill? Ryan and Mark are diving into the sci-fi action masterpiece "The Matrix"! Starring Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, and Hugo Weaving, this 1999 classic redefined action cinema with mind-bending philosophy and groundbreaking visuals.

From bullet time to kung fu showdowns, we’re breaking down what makes "The Matrix" one of the greatest sci-fi films ever made. Is it still as revolutionary today? Is Neo really the One? We’ve got all the answers… or do we?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
It was an odd pause there.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to swoll Cinema, the show that takes your favorite
action movies.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
And makes you hate them. I used to like it
until these guys talked about it. I'm Mark, I'm Ryan.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
And on this episode we're talking about i'd say, a
movie that definitely was a trendsetter and copied by a
lot of movies, spoofed by a lot of movies. Uh,
referenced a lot of movies and TV and pop culture.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
We're talking about The Matrix.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, that was the fun thing about Matrix. I mean,
obviously you said on the last episode, like you love
the Matrix, but the two and three you hate? I said,
but the funny thing about The Matrix is how long
it took between those sequels. Like The Matrix was a
classic nineteen ninety nine film, Yeah, and then what it

(01:13):
was like almost it felt like ten years between sequels.
It wasn't wasn't as short.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, I guess it really was the thing about this movie,
As I said before, it doesn't need a sequel.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
No, No, it really is self contained. I was very happy
with the first movie. It's like it's one of those
I wanted to watch more of But I in my head,
I went, where do you go? This guy supposedly rules
the universe?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, he's like, you know, he's gonna tell everybody
everyone's gonna wake up.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, whatever he says. And then it's like dead in it, Oh,
dead it.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
And then like yeah, he walks off like this, what
a badass he is the one. Neo's his hacker name,
but of course, which is.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Once apelt backwards but still sounds badass.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
No it's not. No, it's not neo.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's an acronym.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Right, And actually what I was gonna say, what.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
School did I go to? But no, yeah, an acronym.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Even that even like, like they said, the soundtrack even
was so good, so like I don't know that I
don't necessarily remember any real songs in it, rob Zombi. Yeah,
but the one that sticks out is all like the
Ridge against the Machine song at the end. But yeah,
even but all the even like all the techno stuff

(02:36):
they put in the middle of it, it's almost like
a video game, Like it has a real video game
feel to me. Yeah, somehow.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's a Again, the movie starts out, Yeah, the cops
are going to steps, you get this is where we
get to see Trinity and get a taste of potential.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
If you've never seen the movie, like, oh yeah, you
kind of get this person has like some superpowers. Yeah,
you kind of get dropped into that opening scene not
knowing what's happening. Just oh shit, whoever she is, she's
fucking crazy like and also all clad in leather. Yeah,
and don't hate that.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I was like, yes, I forgot Trinity. Hell yeah. But
that within that first opening scene, like we got the
cops bullets, we got the uh agents yea, and we
get to see that she's able to run walls and
they're jumping through buildings and it kind of sets up

(03:36):
the world in that first five to six minute opening sequence.
I'm like, rat as hell, Right, you know, you kind
of know you're in for a pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Ride, right, it does it? You're right, I never thought
about that way. It doesn't. Looking looking back, it does
look like superhero type thing. You know, a lot of powers,
Like oh shit, she just dove from one building through
a window of a building that was what thirty feet
away or whatever.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
And even like when the ages jumped over the cop
that saw them.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Was like impossible, Right, Yeah, I forgot yeah, if that
was the first thing they did was jump from a
building like across the street to another building. Yeah, these
cops fall them like what just happened? Like you could
tell them like kind of like the viewers reaction of
like whoa that that doesn't happen every day? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Are they superpowered?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Or I can't remember from the trailers if you kind
of got clued in that it's a digital world.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember that, Like that's that's funny
now you say that because I don't think about the
trailers and that were like you forget what you were
introduced with beforehand on the movie that they showed you
to get you interested in about it, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, And when I was watching, I was trying to
like not think about that. I was just thinking, like,
how cool is this opening six minutes because they set
up they kind of set up everything we're about to see. Right,
it's gonna be uh, we're like the cops when they're
like impossible, like whoa, what is happening? It's gotta be

(05:06):
like you know, i'd say, you know, first thing put
in my head if I was trying to explain to
somebody it would appear that they're superpowered, right, you know,
if you didn't know anything about the movie.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
And that's and then until she uses.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
The phone as one of the agents tried as well,
the main the main agent.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Mister agent Smith.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, uh a garbage truck right the phone booth she's
in and yeah, but I was like, that is badass. Yeah,
it's just a little more. You could have a short
film that people would rave about and beg you to
turn it into a feature life. The opening sequence is
fucking cool. And Trinity, Yeah, she she wore the shit

(05:50):
out of those pants. Y.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
She she looked good. She looked good, and uh yeah,
that was throughout the movie. That's what I like, because
you wanted to could just disappoint you watch it a
little differently and everything. And that's one of the things
I noticed, especially this time, is how much I appreciated
the casting. Yeah, like just Lawrence Fitstburn narrating.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Oh, he was so perfect, just yeah, just the way
he moved and said things was like his cadence was fantastic.
He has just had the right timber and his voice,
you know, and also even his look. And I love
the what do you call that justtaposition of the real
world and how they perceive their digital uh for something

(06:33):
like okay, everybody sunglasses. Apparently they were all ye had
you had hair and you know, slick and jelling up.
Look an amazing best haircut ever? Right, Yeah, black leather
jackets like you're you're there are personas of themselves in
the digital world. What did Fishburn saying this? This is

(06:55):
how we see ourselves in this world. Yeah, everybody's mysterious looking,
end up freaking badass what and hot?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well that's even like without obviously, yeah, all the those
people were like good looking, but even that, like even
Hugo Weaving. Look, I didn't know who Hugo Weaving was
before this movie in nineteen ninety nine, never saw him before.
And even he like just kills at his agents. Smith
absolutely again, like the way he spoke, the way, even
the look, everything about him was just great.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
And he has a great scene too where he like
you realize like even this artificial intelligence, Hey, I guy,
he fucking hates it.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
He wants out, and he.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Has this whole thing with lords Fishburn talking about just
the stench.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
He wants.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
So way he rubs his forehead and then even jams
his fingers at his not like the scene is awesome
and the whole time Laurence Fishburn is just trying to
fight off their brain hack an attempt. Yeah, every actor
put it in. Yeah, nobody, nobody half asked it. And

(08:04):
you got Keanu apparently, since he's does it every movie
he's ever been in. Well we get we get one.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, of course you said about like the like the
you know, inside and outside of the matrix. That was
the one thing I was I was howling at was
like when they're in the real world outside of the matrix.
You know, it's a very primitive look and everything, Like
you don't get introduced as like Zion in this movie
where the city is whatever. But god, thank god you

(08:36):
get you get like you see what they're wearing and everything,
and it looks very like used up, like you know,
basic necessity.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, like burnoup sacks into like pants and shirts, except
it's like they look like those clothes were just you know, sex,
just slap something together so we have something when we're
not cold.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But those fucking boots were bad. They had some of
the coolest right of all time, like just real like
almost like you know, mid Calf level boots with fifteen
straps across me? How can their shirts and pants be
so basic? But they have boots that people would kill
each other for.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I feel like getting out of those boots would be like,
oh yeah, laborious.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Of course, but they look badass.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
All that matters well before we get ahead of ourselves, though,
like after that, Oh, but he's seen, then we're kind
of introduced to Neo. Yep, he seems to be a hacker,
stays up all night. I don't know what he's putting
on the disc he's selling people for two grand, right,
I don't know, unless he's selling them stuff to hack

(09:40):
into other things.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
But in this world he's a hacker.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
And I guess he's made a name enough for himself
that the Paramorphias Trinity they want to reach out. I say,
they think he's yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, I assume everyone, like everybody that got out of
the Matrix was a hacker. That's just my because.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
All their names are kind of hacker. Morpheus, which is
the coolest name. Laurence Fishburne literally probably was the coolest character.
Oh movie for sure, and especially when we get to
like training. Any movie that is awesome that I love
has a training montage and this one does it as

(10:21):
much as.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I as much as I love Counta Reeves, because I do,
I appreciate a lot of shit he's done. But the
two bell like I said, the two best characters in
this word, Agent Smith and Morphous. Yeah, like they weren't
the main character. But without those two doing those two roles,
this is a completely different movie.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I agree, they carried it. They were kind of like
the like the heart of it.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
So without that, well without the heart, no blood pumps
for the rest of the movie.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
But he dies.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Neiw was the main character, but only because, yeah, the
cast held him up. Yeah, Trunity was great, a little
bit small a role than she should have, but she
was great too. Yeah, I'm trying to think the only
one like Will Cipher Joey Pant, Joey Pants, Joey Pants.

(11:12):
It's kind of his characters, like he's great, but what
a what a fucking asshole, And that's why that's why
you look at it, like, that's why he was great
in the movie, because he was He had the look
and the demeanor to be a hate heable character like
very much.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So just it's just a dickish guy, you know, because
I mean, looking back, I can remember the first time
I watched it. Until they made it just beat you
over the head obvious, I still didn't quite think like, oh,
he's definitely the guy that's, you know, being a trader. Yeah,
but they made it so obvious, like if you guys

(11:47):
didn't do just pay attention. And I definitely when I
watched a movie the first time, I'm not for sure.
I'm not trying to pick out shit. I'm just trying.
I'm there for the ride. I'm there to enjoy it
and have a good time. But yeah, I don't know.
They beat her over the head, and I was too
stupid to I knew.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I knew every so every time I looked at him,
like you turn how can you do this to your crew?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah? Just get out, man, Yeah, just turn yourself in.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
But uh, Trinity ed Morpheus contact Neo via computer stuff,
give him clues getting to follow like the next day
at work, Uh, they send him a phone and Morpheus,
you know like basically a fat X guy trots a
phone off, he signs for it and he's like, you
got so many minutes to do. Agents are on their

(12:34):
way to get you. Yeah. Again, it makes another cool
scene Morpheus knows, like there's an empty cubical to the left,
you go now right, And it's like, who's this Morpheus guy?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
How does he know this?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
But the fact that like they get to like so
he does. He starts following his directions, like he sees
the agents, he sees the cops, so he does. He's
following it, and he gets to that empty office and
he's like, there's a there's a scaffold. He can get
to the roof from there, and there's no way any
sane person would be Like when he got there, because
he's looking at the office and it looks like it's

(13:08):
right outside the window, which that's one thing, but then
whenever he gets out there, they make it like an
office over like they want him to like scale the unscalable.
They want him to free solo outside of the building
to get to the scaffolding. Like there's just no way
anybody in her right mind would be able to do
that unless they, like if they're a climber. Like it
was just a hilarious scene where he's like, all I

(13:30):
can do is show you the way, or you know,
show you the door. You have to open it tight bullshit,
Like no dude, there's a leg half an inch wide.
Do you want me to try to climb on?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
And at this point he believes everything about the reality
he lives in.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, so he's not gonna attempt.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, he's not gonna try to jump.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
And he doesn't like the great scene excitement when we
get away, but he just is unwilling to do that.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
And Agent Smith grabs him.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, and then they interrogate him, but they.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well Canada. He gives in the middle finger.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
That doesn't agree.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
It's like, you know, and I want my one phone
call it Yeah, they're like you actually think.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, this is how it because that's what because yeah,
and that reality like it's just the cops. He's like,
you're not going to fucking scare me. How about I
give you the that this is a great line. How
about I give you the finger and you give me
my phone call.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
But instead they gave this crazy bug that went into
his belly button.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Had seen freaks me out every time, Like it's just
it makes your skin crawl, It.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Makes what And I'm like, well, wait, we're in the matrix.
Everything's digital, right, Why did that? Why does that to be? Uh?
This creature thing they put in his belly button. Why
wouldn't it just be like boom, Yeah, I just loved you.
I mean, it makes for a great seat, It makes
for like, oh, what the fuck is happening? Yeah, especially

(14:56):
again if you first time see you're really not sure
what's going on. Right. But really, because it's all digital, right,
that's why they could easily just implanted him Yeah with
code in my head.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's why I was like this, did it really hurt
when it win? Or was this creepy like for him
to see it because it's just going in there?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
It was it all designed to like freaking out to
the point where he's like just gonna listen, like, oh
my god, what these guys are? Yeah, this is the
Men in Black I'm dealing with, right, But.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, but then yeah, but right after he goes in,
he just wakes up in bed.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
And then the next thing you know, they're pulling it
back out like yeah, I don't know, that's a really
nice say that.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Trady rolls up with the rest of the crew.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
And right away they because they get some more clothes,
get in the car blah blah blah, and switch pools
a gun on him and says, take a shirt off,
but it does lead to them trying to we think
you're bugged, right, and they bring out this.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Craziest like giant device again.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
You know what's a digital world, right, yeah, especially Trinity
Switch and whoever's driving you guys know it's the digital world. Like,
so why does the machine to remove it from his
belly button? Like this something I have, like uh, steampunk design,
But they do get it right, they suck it out
of his belly button.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm sure, Like, I'm sure there obviously there's elements where
it is just fun sci fi goofy shite.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Or maybe they have to play in that sandbox because true,
that's that they're living in the matrix, so they gotta
kind of comply the mind. Ma can't do anything too
crazy because they don't want to get, you know, a
glitch and have a I'd be like, hey, somebody's tucking
around across town, go check them out. So maybe they

(16:42):
got to play by certain rules to stay low key.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right, Yeah, I'm sure someone out there knows.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
But I think you're right because it looks cool.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Right it did look again another just fun scene. The
scene of it going in is like, oh, like I said,
skin crawling creepy pulling it out. Also another fun crazy scene,
like because.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
That was real.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I thought it was a dream.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
But they do get the bug out, kill it, smash
it whatever, throw it down the street, and they take
him to see Morpheus.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Again.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
We get a scene that has been copied, yeah, spoofed.
It's iconic where he just meets Morpheus and you know,
you you get to the hole red and blue pill.
Oh yeah, yeah that's like which what would you take? Right?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, that's that's the red or the iconic scene one
and one of them from this movie. Like they're like
how many times it's I mean, it's just a simple
scene where it's just a choice, make the choice, but
giving it a physical manifestation of red pill blue pill,
that's great.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, I mean what would you take?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean, in that situation, if I'm you want to
take the red pill, because yeah, you don't know, because
you don't know the craziness that you're about to happen
in the red pill. If take that red pill, you're
just thinking, like I'm gonna know, because he's like, all
I'm offering is the truth. Yeah, well the truth is
a fucking crazy mind mind fuck. He didn't tell him
that part, right, that's what I mean. Hall's start. I'm

(18:10):
just offering the truth. Yeah, you don't know what you know,
Like like that's Cipher's whole thing. If I'd have known,
I was gonna be wearing you know, this fucking shitty
Hemp shirt, yeah, and eating eating gruel like yeah, out
of state in the goddamn matrix. But here we are,
you know even a.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Right, So the Morpheus could have been like, Okay, look,
I'm gonna bring in some of the team and they
can tell you what happened. They're experiencing to take the
red Pool pill considered, like you know, they're gonna go
one one star. Five star's been like one star, don't
take the red pill.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Fritstar would not take again.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
But he did it.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
He's just like because what I mean by Neil with
his hacking and he was he was searching, he was
waking up sorta. That's how they got on Morphous's radar, right,
but more of us could still be he's like very vague.
Oh yeah, he's being like he's just an enigma, making

(19:08):
him like this bigger mystery, this cooler character, and I
get it. That's that's more badass and him just being like, Okay,
look I printed out all the bad things that could
happen to you if you take the red pill, and
well there's nothing to print out.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
You take the blue pill.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
You're you're good.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
You used to wake up tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
You shouldn't even be honest, like you could even just
say like, if you take the red pill, she it's
kind of change.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, you're entering a world of pain.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, he kind of.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Had anybody at least come in and be like, give
them you know, after I took the red pill, then
this happened. This happened. But I guess if you do
know what's going to happen, you're like, oh that sounds awful.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Oh yeah, Like like that next scene though, they you know,
he takes the red pill and then he wakes up
in the real world and that little pot or whatever,
it's like, that's not gonna Rachel sitting there, I was like, man,
I was like, do you think you ever recover from
the trauma of that? Like you wake you open your
eyes and you're just in this pink goo and you
stand up, you have a hundred fucking like wires attached

(20:10):
to you. I think your throat.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, they're popping off.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, his whole body is lined with like plug plugs,
like almost like Jack's.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Like a guitar cornering guitar Jack.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
But that scene there was really cool.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
It had a very much a hr Geiger feel alien design,
and I never looked it up. I can't while we're
talking if you had they to do with the design
or they just were inspired, but it.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Very much had that alien Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
You know, we're screwed.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Uh because if you'd wake up in that pink goo.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
And look around, you're like, oh right, you would even
I think your brain would crack at that point and
you just fall back down to the goo. But I
guess in the they once you wake up there, they're
gonna they're gonna kill you, right then, Yeah, I guess.
And then I guess reduce you to liquid and then
feed it back to the to the babies, to the

(21:10):
young because they're no, well, they don't need humans to
make babies the old fashioned way. They're just breeding. They're
just making like fields and fields and of batteries because
that's what it turns out we are to this AI,
to these aliens. Yeah, they're aliens, but they're using AI

(21:30):
to keep us.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Not Aliens are just robots, right, I think just I
think it's just robots robots.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, I can't remember part two or three, but yeah again,
hey watch out a.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I will build robots and then put you in the
AI world.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
That's what that that that's what he once he gets out,
that's what he touches on, like, hey, we celebrate the
birth of AI, but the problem was AI becomes sentient
like that, then you know.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
The first thing you want to do is like wipe
out humans.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Right, oh yeah, but you have like that's why he says,
you know, after he gets back, he tells him this
whole story of like we watched them liquefy humans and
feed it back to the babies and blah blah, Well
how do they do that? Because whenever he woke up,
the robot came grabbed him, took the thing out of
his at the back of his head, all the things

(22:17):
popped off, and they just flushed him into some water.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, but who knows what happens when he's down there? Yes,
because he was going to drown pretty quickly. Well yeah,
yeah atrophy. Yeah. Also, I mean I guess in the
matrix you can learn how to you could be like
Michael Phelps. So maybe if his muscles didn't have atrophy, Yeah,
he'd have been like, shit, I'm Michael Phelps. He just
started swimming in that pink river. But yeah, if you

(22:42):
have me, like if you're you know, well, in the matrix,
he would know how to swim, but in the real world.
You in the real world, you don't know kung fu.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's what Rachel was like, well, like what about this
after he gets out, how do you know how to walk?
He's never walked before. It's like, well, his mind knows
how to walk. It's just yeah, okay, he's never had
the body, like, so his brain knows what signals to
send because it's walked.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Right, So that therefore you would know kung fu and
how to be Michael Phelps.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, because it's been downloaded into your head, you slowly
downloaded after over thirty years and stuff thirty seconds, right.
So therefore, though, if you knew how to do kung fu,
once you woke up and you're in the real world
wearing burr lap sacks, if somebody came in you, you'd
be like, I know kung fu, think because it would

(23:39):
still be it's it was still in.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
The brain, right, I mean your muscles would be sinew
but right, he hadn't start your training all over again. Yeah,
I mean that's in the real world where you need
muscles to chump and flip and punch and kick. Which
so they like show that scene they you know, they
pull them out of the muck and then he's just
laying on that table with a thousand needles in him,

(24:03):
sitting there. We're sitting there watching and he was like, oh,
so he's like where He's like, what's going on? He's like,
your muscles of actue. We're fixing them, We're repairing them.
And I'm like, so all I need to do to
get bigger muscles is just like stick a thousand Yeah,
just stick a thousand needs with me? Like all right,
let's go. I'm wan try, Like what's the what am
I doing getting up a five thirty to work out

(24:24):
every day? I could be sticking myself with needles?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I tag stick Ryan? Do you want to see us
do acupuncture?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
On Ryan?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I've always wanted I've always wanted to do acupuncture, Like
no joke, but yeah, but that like this how many thousands?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Final destination or guy who was getting acupuncture. That's not
what killed the end. They made you think, and I'm like, nah,
it was in a horror movie. I'll stay away.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Which one the first one?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
No, this might have been like third or fourth.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh okay, I think I don't even watched the first one,
cause it was it was a fun trip, but it
wasn't like good You only watched the first one. Yeah,
oh no, you gotta watch all of them because I
mean I get most I getting ninety percent of the
good jokes. Then like following a log truck.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Oh yeah, you get that's iconic. No, but they all
got like creative kills. Oh, we get dowards a soul
sinema Halloween that might make you watch one ship.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah yeah, So they stick some needles in him, and
all of a sudden, he's good. I mean his brain
still fucked, he's still.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Like, yeah, you would have nightmares.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I love it whatever I had him waking up in
that pingo, And then would you start having nightmares? Like
we were like we realized that, Oh shit, I always
thought this was a nightmare, seeing myself in this pino
with all these cables in me. Only realized now it
was never a nightmare. It's actually what was happening to me,

(25:47):
I said, these swimming dreams, it's gross. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah,
he pukes. That was I mean that felt like that
was a legit reaction, like the first time he put.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
To say he's gonna pop.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, so good. They put him in the training program
head and his body's like, yeah, your mind would probably
reject that, so well evacuates the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
So since they still have the jack in the back
of their head from being in these pods from the robots,
they can jack themselves in.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's never gonna be any good way to.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Jack and then download uh simulations and information uh and
instantly learn things. And this is where like the movie's
already cool and it's sci fi, but now we get
to uh just pure action fight sequences because we now

(26:53):
we finally get our training. Yeah. Uh no, it is
a training montage. Yeah, because he goes he goes out,
Neo goes out, what is it tank? Yeah. Uh So
he's like, yeah, it's supposed to start with this, Screw that,
let's start with this, and it says like jiu jitsu.
He's like, I'm gonna learn jiu jitsu. He's like, yo,

(27:15):
hang on whatever. Yeah, and again it just he learns
jiu jitsu all this other stuff, and then Kung Fu
wakes up and Morpheus is like comes out to see
how his train's going, and Keanus like I know, kung Fu.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Morpheus is like show me yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
We get this one of the most coolest uh sequences
in any movie a long freaking time where they're like
in a don't like is it like yeah, but it's
got like big wooden rappers and rice mats, and it's.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Like it looks like something out of a karate movie,
like yeah montage, you know, like like we're like, oh,
like whatever, uh junk clouds going over to Thailand or
something like that. It looks like a place that you
would be staying at and training.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
And then we get to some great fight scenes.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Then you know, we start to see that they can.
He tries to teach him like.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
You you know, you're fashioned this, you can do this,
like this is the virtual world you can you can do. Yeah,
but it's so much fun and great music. That's what
we get, like just do doom dodoom. Uh, it's so
freaking cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh yeah. The I mean the part where he's breathing heavy.
I just love that you think that's air you're breathing
like it's so great because your physical body is just
sitting in a chair right now.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well even like when Lord Fishburn just stops breathing, He's
like making a face and then he finally goes like hmm,
It's like again, this movie is uh only fifty uh
neo yeah or less? Morpheus, Trinity, all these characters is

(29:02):
what actually makes this movie awesome. Yeah, and Morpheus is
the ship seriously, and he actually went his his vision
of himself in the matures. He had like long ass
trans coats, sunglasses that had no how would they even
sticking to your face?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
His sunglass like his sunglasses were the coolest sunglasses ever made,
Like they were like I read that they almost made
just for him, right, they were literally yeah I heard.
I heard all of them had cussed like every everybody's
sunglass or custom made fit them, like to make them
look cool and his or that like it did because
like the note, it was like the nose piece just
must have been flexible and he would just pinch it

(29:41):
on because there was no fucking.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
There was no ear thing.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, like no pieces to go back over your ear
to hang them out. It was just he pinched.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
There's probably a real turn for those, but I'm sure
there is ear things. Well we'll just do that.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
They got the ear thing, he's man.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, even though he put his gass on it, he
just did He did like a little pinch here and
he looked so bad.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah. Yeah, this this is what the movie that really
made uh Lawrence Fishburne cool in my in my head,
you know, like he was always a cool actor, but
this movie, like, yeah, this role over the top. Oh
yeah yeah, but they're they're in the sunglasses were a
big part of it for me.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, oh sorry, but you know, I love to like
his conviction that Neil was the one. This is old
uh story there there at one point there was the
one who could see through some of this and helped
fight and they would and maybe defeated him, and then
that that the One would be reincarnated or they come again.

(30:45):
There'd be in the second coming of the One and
he would be the one to help them take down
Ai for for once and for all. And his conviction
to this this makes him even cooler because he's willing
to die for Neo.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Like it's yeah, for the like, yeah, for the good
of the human race. He was like, he's convinced that
he's the one and that's the others to it. Boom,
it's over. Like I would give my give my life
for this guy because he's the one who's going to
save humanity.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
In the moment that he has to like it. You
believe him so much just with his acting.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
When it happens, you're like, yeah, I've court this character
did exactly what I expected him to do. And again
it's why I think Morpheus it's actually the main character.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, because he Without him, we are lost.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
We are lost.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
But Neo never would have believed in himself, right, uh,
you know, even Morpheus taken him to see Oracle. You know,
even Oracle did a little bit of a mind fuck
on Neo.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Like the whole leaking encode was weird though, like like
just some yeah, you're the fucking one kid, I know.
But I guess that adds to the when Trinity's like, well,
oh Trinity, but my but what.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
The Oracle told me is this, there's a little bit of.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I don't know what you call that.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
I guess it's just trying to like keep us guessing
to the right.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Oh yeah, but yeah that whole By the end of
the movie, I was like I rewatched it again. It's like, yeah,
you know what, fuck Trinity. All she had to do
was say that ship earlier and right, we figured this
shit out.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Like but yeah, no, when they do go to the oracle,
she's basically like, no, you got a good soul, but
you're not the one.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, you have a gift, but.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
But you're not. And then when he tries to tell
more what she told you was for you only yeah
uh and then later like she told you what you
needed to hear. So again it's like, oh man, we
were just speaking of COVID. But it works because Morphy
is like, you know, she told you.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
This because you needed Yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Because Neo didn't believe in himself and he wouldn't believe
himself without a little bit of just like in The Avengers,
well they needed to push. Neo needed to push.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
But at the same time we get again another great
line from the movie when every sitting there looking at
the little Buddhist kid there is no spoon, like the
kids to realize there is no spoon, and I don't
know why. It's like I've seen that line, like, well.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
That's the key man everybody could be like Neo, Yeah,
he said, he just thoroughly got it. Yeah once he
once he I guess that that's the whole thing, right,
There is no spoon there. They go to see the
oracle because oracle, I guess, can predict their future or
whatever an oracle is supposed to do. When there's a
little kid that she's she's teaching these kids how to

(33:31):
use their Yeah, there was digital powers.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I got the the idea that they were all there
to test to be the one. Ah, okay, so they're
all candidates. I think they call them candidates. All the
candidates are in the in this room. And one kid's
just been in a spoon yeah, like all around like
in knats and like it was great.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
So that kid when he told Neil like there is
no spoon, that's what Neo grafts onto later. Yeah, and
one of that kids like ship, I was supposed to
be the one. I shouldn't holding the secret, my dick.
You know what the secret isn't it. I ain't telling you.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
The power is in the duke.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Suck it out, boy, trust me, it's just code.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
That's just good. There is that's the key.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
That's the key.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Oh, well, we got a new low on this podcast.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
We did, we went there. That means we probably take
a break.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yes, please reset, he will.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Be Yeah, deja vu. We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
And we're back.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
We're back right Where were we?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh making them scene jokes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were
kind of well we we would be visited the oracle
and that's the uh, like they said the oracle. Yeah,
she tells me you're not the one and guess what
you have to figure out if you're going to give
yourself up or Morpheus. Right after she says without Morpheus

(34:59):
were lost. Hey, and by the way, uh, you have
to make a decision whether Morphius lives or dies. It's
like no pressure, Yeah, no pressure, like you know, you
should be going ahead and make that and you know
it's just a lighthearted decision. But yeah, it was that
Like that whole scenems great because they get back to
that's whenever Cipher has full went full Trader. The Trader

(35:20):
people dropped his phone so they could trace what they're
at in the building, and we have a great, great
scene in that building as they try to get back
out of the Matrix and that's the scene where like
they like they hit the.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Deja vu whoa dejavull I love that because, yeah, a
black cat walks in front of one doorway and he
sees it again. He says, dejevu with everybody, oh freaks
like Morpheus Trinity. Everyone turns around like, what'd you say? Whoa?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
They're like, no, exactly what describe what you saw.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
That's when they were like, that's a when deja vous
was actually a glitch. That means they reset something and everybody,
ye full patic moment, tries to get out and they did.
I guess they reset the building schematics. Now there's no windows. Yeah,
they just bricked everything up, which but I thought that
was a cool scene using that oh weird DejaVu, Yeah,

(36:17):
because we all have it sometimes, right, But when they
were like, oh fuck, everybody was that's not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Dead in their tracks yeh yeah. And that leaves to
the untimely, untimely demise of the the what's he called
him at the middle of the small one? Oh yeah, mouse,
mouse and one hacker Like he's like what like fourteen
fifteen probably yeah, poor mouse like eats it right there.
But I love how he's introduced. He's like, oh you
know that. He gets up board the ship and uh,

(36:46):
he's like introducing everybody. He's like, the small one behind
you is Mouse, And I'm like, can you just say
young one if I was the small one irritated, like
come on, man, like I'm just young, Like well, maybe
put a gym on the ship, start lifting, let go.
But yeah, so like like I love Mouse too because
he's just he's such he's like a very just bit part.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
He has a again in the matrix, he looked badass.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, here was a nice hair cut, glasses, I guess
that's the thing, sunglasses, leather jackets, Oh yeah, look badass.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
And he does exactly what I would have done it
as a fifteen year old has this big case with
these two fucking big askt looked like fifty cows like
just and immediately pulls out and look like Tommy Tommy guns,
like fifty cow Tommy guns. Where he just pulls them
out and just starts, you know, trying to lay waste
these guys, but like dies, Like he played the perfect

(37:40):
part of a fifteen year old and like that would
have done that. Like he got out he's uh trying
to hook Neo up with the lady in red.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
You don't know, like, like, was there any reason for
him to go along? Oh no, really no, Like I
feel like ceifher could have overpowered him. There was one
more guy on the ship that because where they they
basically left tanking Dozer and Cipher Cipher. Yeah he got out.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, so it was just just tanking Dozer because.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
They couldn't dozers running like or tank is running all
the gear looking out for everybody. I'm assuming Dozer was
piloting the Nebek Nezer.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Uh, that means there was no one watching tanks back
while he was too busy doing tech stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Right, if Mouse would have just stayed.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Back, yeah, maybe, you know, maybe because what did he
really do outside of die?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Oh yeah, he was just in the room where the
phone was. I guess.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
I guess he was just holding down the fork where
they jacked in where he was just staying there, like
you know, if anybody comes snooping around the phone, they
need to get out.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
But I mean, at the same time, they also had
a switch in epoch at the door of the building.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I don't think everybody need to actually go down there
should have been more people left back on the ship.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Again, they didn't know that Cipher was going to do
this right.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Because I mean even Trinity, which she didn't do anything there,
she was just in like she just got caught up
in it at the end. She was in love.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
She's in love. Wherever Neil's going, I'm going because.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
You know what, yet they she wouldn't have met it.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
You know what. An acronym for Neo is Mark the
one and he's my one.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Oh boy, Yeah, they have like they but they find
a way to sneak into the walls and Cipher again
like just a man like even they I even I
feel like they should have been like at that point,
like is there some up in this asshole? Like yeah,
because he sneezes in the wall to give away their
position again, No, it's like.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
You dick, which is just a yeah, seese her he
did he cough and like uh, Morphius just said earlier
in the movie, like is that you think that's airy ridden?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
So why would he cough?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
He didn't.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
It's like he knows right, it's not gonna make him cough. No,
the guy Cipher was a dick.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
But even in my hands, like that's a bad move
on his part, because they just know you're in the wall.
Now now they're in the walls, like they just start
the one guy just starts opening fire like they didn't
know it was their informants in the wall with them. Right,
that's you're supposed to be the one that like lays
back like, no, guys, I got this.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
You go, I'll stay.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Back, and then you like, yeah, they're in there, Yeah
I got I got this.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Morphia tells Trinity get him out of here.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah. Morpheus does his thing like he's just like taking
a big kung fu deep rep and he just blust
through the wall. Was like in a bathroom, right yeah,
comes out, uh and just starts fighting. And even when
he was fighting the agent, like you know, Morpheus is
like badass.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
He just overpowered.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
But still yeah, because even when he was overpowered, like
he kept going, he kept going like this is the guy.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
It's too bad.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
It's like, why why was it Morpheus the one? You know,
this guy he believes so strongly? What element was he missing? Right? Uh?
Did he not know about the spoon?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
He's like the spoons everywhere in this place. Man, there's
no spoon. Bullshit, I see them all the time.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
But I feel like in the movie, like we have
to get here because he's like Morphius is the is
the teacher, right, the master, Murphius the master, Neo is
the student.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
But at some point again the student becomes the master.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
But in this case, the student loves the master so much, like,
oh no, we're going to rescue him, and it's a great,
great sequence. When Neo was like, Neo like comes to
terms with it, and so in his head to like
the basic concept is like someone close who's gonna die

(41:41):
or something like that, he just feels like, oh no,
I'll say Morpheus, I'll sacrifice myself. So even just getting
there me is like you're closer to being the one
because you're willing to give up your life to save Morpheus.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I love and hate the movies that like basically tell
you exactly what's going to happen, and then they're able
to make you forget, like because it's the good guy.
The good guy's gonna get out, like like that kind
of stuff is always so good. Where like that because
she tells him right there, like you're gonna have to
choose one of you is gonna die. And again more
without Morpheus were lost but you have to decide whether

(42:18):
you or him dies, right, neither one is gonna die
and you freaking and he like and you think he
forgets about it because he believes he can get out,
and you forget about it because you know he's the
main character. Of course he's the good guy's going out,
but he doesn't like it's all things.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah, and they but they they do get Morpheus, and
Neil devises a plan, pretty simple plan because when you're
in the matrix, you're like, we're gonna need guns. Oh yeah,
you just fill an entire white room because it was
like there's white blanks and then these shells of guns
has come flying out again spoofed in so many movies. Yeah,

(42:57):
it is one of those scenes again that people are.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Remember, Yeah, oh, I say, I love that because he's like,
what do you need? Because they're just standing in that,
you know, empty space. It's trendy and neo. He's like
loading up with the toe on what do you need? Guns?
Lots of them and then just you know, miles of
guns has come shooting at that. It's just so fun. Yeah,
it's a fun scene.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
And they go to the building that they're interrogating Morpheus
Morpheus at and they go through the metal detector is
so good, puts his bag down, walks through, he sets
it off like sir.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Can we cha when he pulls his coat open, just.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
He's got every like I don't even know how he
must have add one hundred pounds of weapons, like his
jacket on his side.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, it's crazy again.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
But then there is no spoons, so there was no weight, right,
so he can keep he carry as much as he wants.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
G Shaus and the just boom boom boom, like the
first five Dug guys dead immediately great and then and.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Then again back in that song that end it in
and back into this this techno beat with slow moo
action flipping he's even doing, you know, flipping one hand
stand flips. Why he shoots people, it's it's again a
well choreographed fight.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Sing well, this was the This was the first movie
that did the whole I forget the term they used
for but like you jump up and then they just
rotate those camera shots. Bullet time, bullet time there. Yeah,
like that was the movie that gave you bullet time,
bullet time.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah to say it like that, we earned five cents
every time we say bullet time.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
There's some scare line and hof, people got fucking great
because they pay me every time I do. Yeah, but yeah,
that's like that's the movie gives you that. And yeah
again just an innovative camera work that's used yeah fully
or at least partially in other movies.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Then yeah, again, when you the coolest thing.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
About this movie, that's when you first saw I saw
in the theater like that, that kind of that bullet time.
It was awesome and it's still awesome. Yeah, Like watching
again last night, I'm like, now it's they did it first.
It's cool as shit. And again when you're copied, you

(45:14):
know you were you were a little bit of a
trandsetter and this movie was a transseenter for sure. They
use it big time when Agent Smith tries to shoot
him on the roof. Oh yeah, yeah, because they do
get more fhaous. It's a whole big it was a
whole big scene. A helicopter. I got. Another fun thing
was like, do you know do you know how to
fly a helicopter? She's like not yet. It's like tank,

(45:36):
I need a pat B two one two yeah for
this helicopter And like, yeah, okay, let's go.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I'm like, ship, that would be awesome, right, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, well that's that part where they rescue him,
is you know, she fis the helicopter down, he's manning
a mini gun and just indiscriminate is firing, right.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
No, when he was shooting in Oh so, there's like,
what three agents interrogating Morpheus, right, they come down to
the helicopter. Even the bullet he has like an M
I don't know, an M sixty or something mountain on
the helicopter and if you look at that one seem
he's going like kind of back and forth. I'm like,
oh yeah, oh no, you're you know, you're hitting Morpheus
that kind of with that spray. But no, nope, Apparently

(46:24):
he was very accurate and was just missing Morpheus every time.
I'm like, no, you you you actually killed Morpheus movies
over his dying breath. He's like, you're not the one
that was wrong. It was wrong in the movie.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
But even even those scenes like when he's shooting the
man got early earlier when they were in the lobby shooting,
like those fun scenes of just almost slow motion of
just bullets hitting.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, because oh, even the sound the sound design in
this movie is killer.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, like there, I mean, I would love to know
how many how many rounds were supposedly fired in this movie? Thousands,
thousands of rounds fired in this movie. So good.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
I can't remember did they change clips because again there
is no spoon, Well, you don't need to reload.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, well, at one point, he they drop their guns.
They usually don't change clips in this movie. They usually
just drop them because he had, like you get more,
he had like ten pairs of guns like on his head.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Maybe there's a little bit of rules that they play by.
But if there is no spoon, this gun, this guy
will never empty because.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
At one point, yeah, he's running and then does the
cartwheel and picks the one up off the ground and
starts shooting that one.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
So again, it's so cool. The slow motion this is
so cool. Yeah, but they do say Morpheus. But one
of the ages, does he shoot the helicopter traines in?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, Smith shoots the hard hydraulics or something.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
And Neo is still strapped in by a rope because
he used the rope to jump out and grab Morpheus.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
It goes down and he just grabs that rope.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Oh, he's kind of like you know that helicopter back
and Morpheus is like, I fucking knew it. I know.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
It's a fun moment where you're like, oh, yeah, he
thinks he can hold the helicopter like this at that point,
you know, like because he already did the whole uh
dodging the bullets. Yeah, he already did.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
That, and like what the hell, I've only seen an
a AGS move like that.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, so he already did that and avoided well not
quick enough because he got just grazed by two of them.
But at that point, he's, you know, in his head,
he thinks he can do just about anything because he's
grabbing that rope and wrapping it up. He doesn't know
she's gonna shoot it off down there and be the
only thing. He thinks he's gonna hold that helicopter and
has no reservations about just wrapping himself up in it.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah. Yeah, that's good, good moment for Morpheus because this
is like he believes this is a Valida, this is it.
But he does save Trinity. Trinity and Morpheus managed to
get out of the matrix before uh neo, Okay, it's okay, no,

(49:01):
because Nea is going to face down Agent Smith.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
That's a great fight scene.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
It's outstanding, I mean, and it goes on like it's
like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Right, it's a while. And yeah, because I mean that's
like your final big action sequence fight scene. But the
only the only part of it that it's not necessarily bad.
But it's the one thing I giggle at every time
as they're fighting. Man, there's some sweet moves this, that
and the ear thing. But whenever, like Neon punches at Smith, Neon, Neon, Yeah, yeah,

(49:32):
dog is a cousin.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Show up.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
You want some of this, get in here. Whenever Neo
punches at Smith and he blocks it like just short
of his throat and he sticks his fingers out.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
So good, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's just one of those I'm like, really, I mean,
I'm here, I'm here for it. It's fun. But yeah,
it's so goofy like all these big action movies and
then you know, big punches everything else. And then.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yep, but.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Nia is able to fight off the agents.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Well yeah, I mean he stopped bullets. He does what
no one's done before, and he wins a one on
one battle with with with Smith. Because the train's coming.
He cause keeps and I love the fact that they
have Smith calling and mister Anderson the whole time. He
doesn't call him Neil, it's always mister Anderson. And yeah,

(50:30):
when that train's coming, because he's going to sacrifice himself
because he's the program, he doesn't give a ship. Yeah,
and he jumps up, you know, bashes him off the
roof and is able to jump out of the way. Now,
obviously Smith just transfers into someone else, but he kind
of did what no one else ever did, was win
a one on one. Unfortunately, Smith has his power where
he can do a morphin whoever, so it's not over.
But Yeah, but then it's a crazy chase scene just

(50:53):
running through alleys and all the agents. It's it's fun
because the agents just popping up left and Rightyboddy that
sees Neo.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah, the ages can like get into that body. That's
actually really fun. Yeah, the day again. But at the
end end of that chase scene is where he stops
all their bullets and starts to see ye see who
they really are. He starts to see that programming right
we've been seeing all the entire movie.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Waffrey shot. Because then he's like, because the Oracle has
to be true, Like he opens that door and boom, right,
there's already Smith and pops like five bullets into him.
Yeah that's right. Yeah, goes down because that's when, because
that whole time you're like, oh, he's gone, he's gone
to get out there. It is Boom, he saved Save Morpheus. Nope,
but the Oracle is always right Boom shot five times

(51:42):
and kills him, and then Trendy finally after he's dead,
has the courage to tell him she loves it.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Well we need to see and like, oh my god,
he's dead. But if it's just a kiss, just a
kiss from me, she's kissing a dead guy. She likes corpses,
and right, the whole time, that's what it was. Yeah,
she was just once you die, I'll kiss you.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Then I can tell you I like you.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah I know. But again one of the scenes like
oh shit, maybe it's not what I think it is.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's a great swerve.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah but uh yeah, but that little kiss just like
snow White all the light, Yeah, the prince kiss is whatever.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Neo like snow White Neo's like, hey, what's.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Up everybody, But that's that's the like, that's the best.
Like the part that even is more makes it more tense,
is like background, I can kind of forgot about what
we're talking about. The background. The the machines are already
like squidties are breaking into the ship, so they're like
waiting to hit the MP because they're gonna die if
they're waiting to Neo get out.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Like it's tense as ship, Like it's a great indie scene. Yeah,
Like again, Morpheus polieves so strongly he is holding off
on hitting the at e MP to like literally like
he's willing.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Right to not sure Neo gets out. Yeah, oh yeah yeah.
And it's it's intense because they're sitting there and then
they you know, and then they see Neo get shot
in there both like oh like what no, No, that's
what That's not supposed to happen. What the hell? And
then you know, Morpheus watches Trinity make out with the
dead guy and he comes back to life.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
He's like, I knew it, I knew you.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Like corpses, he was magical.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I do love that part too, where I want to
know what the oracle told sits cipher, you know, because
he takes all these people to see Cypher. What did
the oracle tells Cipher, because shouldn't you have seen this coming?

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
And and also why didn't she tell him, like, hey,
here's a way to get out, Like the Cipher just
hated because one, he was infatuated. He was in love
with Trinity, so he was jealous of it because she
he could tell immediately she liked Neo, and so he
wasn't happy about that. He wasn't happy about being there
to begin with, like all the ship was Cipher, Like, God,

(54:10):
damn it, Cipher.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah, why didn't you take the freaking bluepill?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
He wanted to it, like you're you're He's so angry, like, dude, yeah, yeah,
what did she tell him? Uh, you're probably gonna die.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
You're gonna hate it here, ship. You couldn't tell me
something good? Damn right?

Speaker 1 (54:34):
But that kiss. He gets back up and he's good.
Then he starts he sees code.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, that's fun.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I'm sorry, Yeah, I jumped ahead. He starts to see
the agency in all the code coming down. That's the
code we were seeing opening title sequence. Uh on the
screen that they've been watching the Nebukinezer. He's seen it
now he's and he's able to now manipulate even when
they all shot, he just stopped it, all right, Yeah,

(55:03):
and yeah that was super cool because now we know,
right now we know he clearly he is.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
The one, and he believes.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
And he believes that's that's the biggest thing he believes.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
And that's really all it took because now he understands
he's in a digital world and he can manipulate it. Yeah,
and he does. He jumps into agent Smith and just
blows him up, lows him up. But maybe a Smith
unless he can come back. Is like, thank god, because
all right, I hated this right being in the part

(55:37):
of this.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
I'm glad he blew me up.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, yeah that and then like yeah, boom gets the
phone quick. I love how. I love how in that moment,
Tritty screams at Neo and he realizes like, oh yeah, shit,
I got to get this phone call as they're getting
like lasers like right by him.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Uh. But then it gives the finale where he calls Yeah,
just no one, anyone, anyone. I guess he just call
he knows they know. Maybe he knows if I picked
this phone up and just started talking, they're listening, Yeah,
tells him what? Uh, I know what's up. I'm going
to everybody know and you're done? Yeah, kind of a

(56:22):
little bit better than that.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Why that song?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Did it? It? Did it? Starts playing it, he walks
away like again for me. The end, he is like, Okay,
he's the one. He just said, taking you down, And
I'm like, what a great movie? Yeah, nowhere din I
walk out of the theater. We're even watching them last night,
going like, man, I really hope they do part two.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I really want to know what Zion is. I want
to see how cool that is.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Like I said, that was one of those movies where
I wanted to see more, but I don't know that
I but I was like, it was so good that
I don't want a sequel, because sequels to a movie
you really want usually don't live up to it. So
it's like, I want to see more, but squeakals sequels
are tough. Yeah, Empire strikes back.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
There is one. I could say, Yeah, that sequel kicked ass, right,
But can you name a sequel that really lived up.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
To the hype of the first one or improved upon.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
The first one?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I mean, everybody goes Godfather right, Godfather too? Godfather too?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah? Yeah, Also, people don't like Godfather three.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Right, That's that's the joke there, things like Godfather Too
is better than god any other ones?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Yeah, I don't know, but certainly not. I mean Drastic Park.
This is part two now, it's good. Yeah, yeah, it's
that sequel. There's got to be a movie where the
sequel is like Superior outside of Empire strikes back.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
But yeah, that's that's And that's one of the things
where I felt like they tried to leave the Second
Matrix where Empire was like just doom and gloom, Like
they left it like, oh fuck Neo, Neo's who what
the fuck? We know what's wrong with Neo? All of
a sudden, Smith's outside the fucking matrix, Like they left

(58:12):
the second one in a way where Empire was where
I feel like people could easily hate that. People hate
seeing bad guys win. It's hilarious, right, I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
The only thing I liked about the second one is
we're outside of the matrix when those crazy robot things
that were tearing apart, the nebeconezer yeah came and he
even in so even in the real world, he was
like he shut him down. So he has some type
of power over this this AI and all their robots

(58:41):
somehow whatever code. That's what I could assume. He doesn't
actually have power. I don't know, because I feel like
in part of three, or maybe it's part two, even
when they were jumping in the building far across them,
like in my head, I'm like, yeah, if you know
it's not real, why don't you just sucking fly like
he did in the second one. But in the second one, yeah,

(59:02):
then he flies, and then you're kind of.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
At the end of the first one he does, he
just takes off, and then the second one they're like, oh, yeah,
show him finely, that's right.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
But even then I'm like, all right, maybe I didn't
want to see.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
You fly now that I wished it, because now it's
like now it's like you are a superhero now.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah, yeah, now you're Superman. I know, I really, I
really enjoyed this movie, and yeah, I know I picked it.
But last night when he had to put it in
and not saying like, ah, we got to watch this,
the part of me is like, oh, I should pick
something like I haven't seen so many times. Yeah, And

(59:38):
then when I popped it in start watching, like, oh,
it really doesn't matter. There's a reason I watched it
so many times. Yeah, it's just a good movie.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah, it's very watchable.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Yeah so I yeah, and it actually goes by quick.
I didn't even check the running time. It was like
two hours, that's but it was. It felt like an
hour and a half.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
As I say, well, I thought it said one ninety
or something. I was like, wow, I don't know about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I felt like I mixed a Gin and Tonic five times,
not five. No, I had well, I had a couple,
but I felt like I had one, and then the
movie was over and I was like, man, it's only like,
you know, seven point thirty, right, Like I'm gonna have
one more. I just felt like for that time period,

(01:00:20):
I was so sucked in that he wasn't worried about
taking a break. Oh god, all right, let me get
out and get a snack in another drink. I felt
like I was just so sucked in. The matrix runtime
two hours, sixteen minutes. Well, I did not feel like that. No,
I promised it moved so well. It felt like an
hour and forty minutes. Yeah, it felt like a nice
ninety minute nineties action film. Yeah, as it should be.

(01:00:43):
I have no actually no flaws with it really, you know,
not that I'm gonna I'm not giving a ten out
of ten. That's a tough. That's a tough to give
it ten out of ten. But there's nothing I would change,
you know, as a guy who I'm using air quotes.
Everybody makes movies.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
This thing is a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Something you could study if you want to make movies.
It's really good, great action sequences, great actors.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Casting. You know, this is one where I'd say casting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Actually, yeah, Morpheus would have been like which was to saying, like,
give me the worst casting for Morpheus you can think of,
but with popular actors of the night late nineties, Yeah,
give me give me Tom Cruise. That'd be great. Where
Tom Cruise is nea like casting was it was absolutely

(01:01:34):
key to this movie, right, who would be the worst Morpheus? Well,
Tom Cruise, short, white guy, perfect, perfect, like with him,
it is like but the same length jacket that Morpheus
workus walking around tripping over it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Though, hey, guys, come on, the truth is out there. Sorry, Tom,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
It'd be great, but no, like that that was the
fun part is supposedly like uh Will Smith turned down
the role, Neil Oh, thank gosh, oh yeah, like, oh no,
that I mean it was Will Smith and I think, uh,
I think, what's what's his face? That was the pirate
guy for every all those fucking Caribbean movies Johnny Depp

(01:02:22):
supposedly Johnny Depp too, Are you kidding me? I think
they were their first choice and they got the Kuana
Reeves and I was like, that's the best part is
like counta Reeves has that reputation like oh he's got
his like kind of Bill and Ted like goofy moments
and movies, but it really worked with this one, Like
you know, it was one of those is one of
those things where whoa that wouldn't looked any nearly is

(01:02:44):
good coming from someone else.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
I hate I don't want to say it like this,
but I've always felt like Keanu Reeves is not a
great actor, but he's the perfect actor for the especially
for the role, you know what I mean, Like he's
not gonna ever like out act with say al Pacino
or Robert de Niro, but he's not that kind of actor.

(01:03:06):
And again, kind of if you're listening, I'm sorry, but
but I think you were always cast just right right,
Like that's why your roles are so iconic, and I
think and Will Smith would have just shipped no offense.
I don't see him as this Bad Boys that that
character in Bad Boys. Yeah, that that seems like excellent.

(01:03:29):
And I don't think Keanu Reeves would have been good
in Bad Boys, but I think it would have been
a really beat Did he take a role in the
Vampire movie? Is that why he didn't do the Matrix member? Yeah? No,
I think I think this is a case of perfect casting. Yeah, yeah, everybody.
I don't think you're gonna have anybody else but Carry.

(01:03:52):
Anne Moss is Trinity, right, I think, and even Cipher
like Joey Pants, like he's just he's just the right
guy to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Really fucking hate. He is a turncoat.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
There's something about some some actors like that, well like
and I know they've been on other things, but like
Carry and Moss, uh, Joey Pants, they weren't in a
lot of things, and there's something to be said about
having it. And even Hugo, like Hugo Weaving, it's something
he's said about like not knowing a past not and
there's not an expectation for these actors actresses and what

(01:04:26):
they've done before where you're going to go like, oh,
I know how they are. Like it's sometimes very refreshing
where all these studios want to cast names to get
money in Yeah, yeah, but you're going to cast the
right person who fits the character. And that's what makes
it good because one they know how to pull it off,
and two you're not expecting anything. You know, you don't
have this Oh well, you know, Will Smith is a

(01:04:48):
great action star. He's kind of buff. He could maybe
have pulled off Morpheus. And I don't mean to stereotype
because of the color of skin on that just he's
like a big presence, you know where That's why I
think Lauren's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
He would have just he would not. He would have
been the downfall of the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
When I think about perfect casting, I can't I just
can't even entertain anybody else but Lois Lawrence Fitsburgh right.
And I think that's the casting director gets this upfront
credit in movies because of that, because maybe knowing for
better or for worse, like your names, that when you're yeah,
when you're picking your actors, like there's a there's something

(01:05:31):
to that role, not not just crediting that role right right,
but as somebody did you know watches movies, you might not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Realize how important the casting director really is. That's like
you see that all the time with like certain movies.
How you realize like, oh, this person is up for
the role, and what would have been like then? Like
my one of my favorite ones to think about is
uh is Cable Guy. It was supposed to be Chris
Farley but whatever and then and Chris Farley even said

(01:05:59):
he goes. I wanted to do it, but I was
locked into a deal with whatever studio and they as
soon as I was trying to do Cable Guy, they said, nope,
We're making not Tommy Boy, but Black Sheep. So like, nope,
you're you're in for Black Sheep And he's like fuck,
He's like, obviously when I read the script, we were
going to go in a completely different direction.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
You see. I now that I would love to see,
Oh yeah, I'd love to see the other version of Yeah,
I want to see the other version. I don't want
to see Tom Cruise and Will Smith in uh the Matrix.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
You know, like I liked Cable Guy with Jim Carrey
being darker, but I also want to see Cable Guy
with just a goofball more.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
There's some great stuff in Cable. Cable Guy is actually
an underrated comedy. I think it's because everybody wanted Jim
Carrey just Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey's like, no, I'm going
to be really weird in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Yeah. Yeah. So like you see the like all the
time with different people that were supposed to be casting
roles and whatever, and you go, oh, we dodged a
bullet or damn it would have been that'd been pretty sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Right right, And this is I wonder who else was
casting that well?

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I think I think uh Jada Pinkett was supposed to
be was also up for the role of Trinity at
one point, which obviously she came back in one of
the later ones as Naobi.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Oh right, hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
They're like, we don't want to be honest with you,
Like we don't want this bald ass chick.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Yeah, these some of these choices.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Oh wait, okay, I found a screen rant the Matrix
actors who almost played the main characters. Yeah. Uh, of
course we get.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Get get to the main thing is this we don't
care about the characters.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
It also is like this is a way to uh
get me the Sea adds, So I'm not gonna go
into it, but they did show a picture of uh
oh man, he was in a gladiator. Oh, Russell Crowe,
Russell Crow. Now who would Russell Crow a bit?

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Maybe more Morpheus?

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Maybe I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Ye oh no, okay, I'm saying now I'm seeing once
the ad stop.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Messing me up. Yeah, looks like maybe Russell Crows Morpheus.
As you said, Will Smith is neo and Sandra Bullock is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Sandra Book's pretty hot, but she's more girl next door,
not slipped back hair hot.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Yeah. Again, it's one of those things like Carrie and Moss,
like that's Trinity. Yeah, like the she defined that character. Yeah,
and I don't think Sandra Bullock would have Sandra Bullock
was great in that salone movie where I think Carrion
Moss wouldn't have nailed it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Like sometimes Yeah, I don't else to say, but.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Again, I think that's one of those where you've seen
her in that role where she's more fun like role
that where you didn't have a like have a background
of carry man Moss being the serious kind of like
slightly darker hacker type person you know, so you don't.
So it's a it's a mind fuck to think of
Sandra Bullock playing a darker like role.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Like yeah, well I didn't need it to be lighthearted, right, Yeah,
it's mean it's really not a good thing to find out,
find out you're in a simulation.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
You know, it's it's some dark shit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
And I love in the movie, like it's not always
wasn't always the matrix wasn't always like this. We built
a utopia, yeah, but you humans wouldn't accept it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Well, that whole speech is just fun because he says
that and I'm like, well that's bullshit, and like nobody's
going to reject being happy and also well but I
thought I.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Also kind of meant like they were rejected. It's like, ah,
this ship ain't real. This is like too nice, too happy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I understood at But then he's also like I've did
the humans are mammals or viruses. I'm like, that's every
mammal with uncontrolled shit, Like if you put something out
there like that. Yeah, Like I enjoyed it, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Give me know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
I love I love the concept to the speech.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
I love the speech. I loved all the interactions with it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Which which was part of the story to get as
to why the matrix looks like this right, isn't like
this really cool place to live?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Because I loved I like the line where he's like,
I hate this place and he's like, you know what
it is. It's the smell.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
That line, just like the way he's funny, but you're
also AI, Yeah, you do use the smell, because he
says after that, he's like, if that's even a thing
or whatever, it's like, I love I just love like
it's the smell, if that's even a thing whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
He like even even says himself like, I don't know.
I'm a character, but I hate the smell. I'm a
program and I hate the smell. That's how fucking bad
I hate this place.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Yeah, even Yeah, you think you'd be teaming up with Neil, like,
you know what, let's take this ship down.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I need to be done. Yeah, I can't do this anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Yeah, he's Freddy. As much as he hates it, he
looks like you are the one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Let's take it down.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Yeah. Man, maybe in part two or three he just
meant did side with him. I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
I just could have empathy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Well, he's I don't know if he necessarily sides with him,
but he's he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
I'm glad. I'm glad, and not that you remembered the sequels.
I try to forget him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
He has to say, here's the problem. Is I like
the original Matrix enough where I looked past all the
faults of the other ones and just enjoyed them and
had fun with Like. I like the other two movies.
I like the fourth one. I'm I'm a fucking weird.
You know, you don't know, you don't come on, don't
say that, no, Neil Patrick Harris. I know, I know

(01:11:32):
it's it's terrible, and I admit that, I admit that
I'm probably wrong and they're probably all bad, but I
just I just enjoy them for what they are. Because
I enjoyed this first one so much, I'm able to
just enjoy the other ones and be along for the
ride and go. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I like it all right, I'm with you, Okay, you know,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I do own the anime so between like the Matrix,
and maybe before they came out of the second one,
they did an anime which is like short vignettes within
the Matrix. Okay, and it was actually really cool. I'll
give it to you since it sounds like you watched
everything else. But that all right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
What's your rating on this sucker?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah, it's it sucks because man, like I picked Fight Club,
that's one of my favorite movies. This is probably another
top five for me. So it's another nine and a half,
like just ye nine nine, Like I really I really
loved The Matrix back in the day, So I had
a lot of a lot of love for the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Yeah, you know what, I'll be there with you. I'll
go nine and a half two because I have really
no flalls with it. Yeah, I mean it's it's a
lot of fun. It was a trendsetter. We just talked
about sometimes perfect casting is one key to the success
of the movie. Yeah, you could have an amazing concept,

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miscast it misdirected, and it's a turd, but this was
This one was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Yeah, and my wife didn't fall.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Asleep even after seeing it multiple times.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
So yeah, it gets a nine point five. Yeah, I
choose anyone. The movie is pretty decent. Uh what is next?

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
So I was I here's the here's here's the thing
that probably would drive something like you insane, who's like
the second and third suck.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
I was digging, please don't make me watch part two?

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
No no, no, no no no, We're not gonna watch
any more Matrix.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
But I was like digging through my chest of like
seating my chest of physical media. Oh hey, let's go
and uh and so because I was like, I have
to have the Matrix right, and I realized, no, the
Matrix is nineteen ninety nine when I was in college.
I don't have any money, so I have the second
and third one DVD, but I don't have the first one.
But as I'm digging through, I found another nineteen nineties gem.

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Then I was like, I've watched this one around wan
I kind of watch it pulp fiction, Oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
God, hell yeah, that's one of my favorite movies of
all time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Yes, but I was looking through all this stuff and
I was like, well, I found Payback the Director's cut.
I was like, well, I often watch that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
And shit, you should you need that a few episodes ago?

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
But yeah, I was like, and then I saw Paul Fix.
I was like, fuck, I'm watched this in a long time,
about nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Hell, Yeah, let's go. I'm in.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
What do you think? Are we right about the matrix?
Do you love the matrix? Swallow Cinema at gmail dot
com let us know, do you uh? Are you tired
of our picks?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
And if you emails, send us your fucking picks. Don't
bitch about our picks. Send us to your picks. And yeah,
so next time, Paul Fiction, here we go into the world.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Quentin Tarantino. Yeah, Quentin, that's gonna be an interesting conversation.
He's the most famous Quentin I know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
He's the only Quinn.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
It's hell.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Next time, everybody, keep lifting that weight, bitch as whoop.