May 30, 2025 • 45 mins
Swole Cinema Episode 52 drops into dystopian chaos as Ryan and Mark break into the gritty, action-packed cult classic: Escape from New York! Starring the legendary Kurt Russell as the eye-patched antihero Snake Plissken, this 1981 John Carpenter film throws us into a future where Manhattan is a prison and the only way out… is through!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's up? Hi, Hey, it's wool Cinema time. Yay, I'm Mark,
I'm Ryan, and this time we're gonna talk about Escape
from New York. Yeah, Kurt Russell, Snake, Snake, snake, plik
plisk is. It's pliskin right with a p pliskin. Yeah,
(00:28):
what do you think it was for? Like for the
longest time, like I thought it was bliskin. Sounded better
than me. I don't know. Snake Blumpkin, It's a whole
different movie.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That's how watch Why Where's an Eyepatch? It's actually just
got a really bad case of pink eye.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It was blumpkins. That's how the shows whoa I just got?
I just took it in the eye when Ryan opened
that can over there, you better you better say what patch? Yeah?
Ska wait wait wait what are we doing? Escape from
New York? Well? Here was this like it like it
(01:08):
was eighty eight, nineteen eighty one, Oh shit uh. Directed
by John Carpenter, one of my favorite directors because he
directed one of my favorite movies, Halloween. I was and
there was a lot of people that were in Halloween
in this movie.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I always thought, like the I realized he did that
whenever the credits and everything. But yeah, I never realized.
I just it's just me. I'm just stupid. I just
never realize that he did other movies that weren't like
horror based. I mean, this is like a degree or
two away from horror, but it was Yeah, I just
I never knew who I'm outside of the genre.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, it's just you know, one of the things like
when you're not a fan, you don't realize what someone
all what all they do.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So yeah, speaking of who's in the movie, Uh, Kurt Russell,
Lee van Cleef, Ernest Borgnine, Donald Pleasants, who was in
Halloween what I say, Isaac Hayes, Adrian Barbo, tom Atkins,
who was in the Halloween three season of The Witch.
(02:08):
So the cast was like pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, it was a funny thing about the movie was
just the first time when you're introduced to the Duke,
like the of the prison Isaac Cays, I didn't realize
Isaac Hayes was the duke because the first character you see,
like of the bad guys, is like the David Bowie
looking motherfucker right like, and so then they're talking about
the Duke and then you're there. Next thing you know,
(02:32):
they're taking him to the Duke and that's the first
guy you see. And then because he gets out of
the car and Isaac Cayes, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's weird. Did that little frail guy's the duke and
his muscles huge?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Isaac Hayes right, and then I was like, oh, wait,
that's like his girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
For a brief moment, the David Billie looking dude, I
was like, is that is that Michael Bean from the terminator?
Is that Coyle Reese? Just a split second there was
like something in his voice. Yeah. I was like, oh,
because I was like, man, that would be weird, but
it wasn't. Yeah. Before we get rolling here on the movie,
I want to read a comment we got on Spotify
(03:07):
from Pete. He says, yes, I was going to leave
a comment suggesting Escape from New York one of my
favorite movies of all time since you recovered Kurt Russell. Boy,
mess that up, Pete. Another great episode that had me
in hysterics looking forward to the next episode. In Mark
add Augusta, per Augusta, you did just fine, I said, well,
(03:33):
didn't do? Just find reading that comments are there for
a reason. Readings hard thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed Tombstone.
I really did think I butchered the Laddin, and I'm
surprised that did in summer some of the demon. But hey,
it just follows you now, Yes, it's my sidekick. Well, Pete,
I hope you enjoy our take on Escape from New York. Yeah, thanks, man, Oh,
(03:58):
be like Pete, leave a comment, Be like Pete Spotify,
Apple or email us swove Cinema at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, yes, so yeah, I think I said. I never
actually watched this movie. I watched the Escape from La
but I never watched this one before, so, as it gives,
it was not exactly what I was expecting. I actually
had no idea what to expect, but it was. It
was a fun play, like a fun story, you know, yeah,
like turning turning Manhattan into a prison.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's hilarious. So what is It's like? It takes place
in the well, this came out in nineteen eighty one.
I love it takes place in the future of nineteen
eighty eight, right, I loved it. I guess the United
States is at war with the Alliance of China and
the Soviet Union. I guess that causes like, you know,
(04:48):
financial issues something like that. It's funny because I never
even I never picked that up during watching the movie.
I had no idea. I just thought that I just
sawt crime issues. Yeah. No, the nat are the economy
US econo me is plummeted, is plummeted because of this war.
And crime has risen four hundred percent. Now that stat
(05:09):
made me chuckle because I'm like, okay, well crime rates
at one hundred percent to means everybody's mugging everybody right
at four? Does that mean like there's a there's a
good chance when you go to visit your moms you might.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Rob you just don't only your house man.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And the solution is to just build a wall around
Manhattan Manhattan. And that's the that's the reason. Don't feed them,
don't do him, just dump them in there. It was
so goofy. I love the fact that they're like, well
they even found like a way to way to have power,
way to do this. I'm like, they should be dead.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What are you going to like, you can't farm Manhattan,
Like they don't probably don't know how to farm in them.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
See He's like, what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Okay, Yeah, I mean it was pretty dystopian, but at
the same time, there wasn't just people laying around dead everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So yeah, so the movie Youself Is takes place in
nineteen ninety seven, Yeah that was, and I guess it's
like it would be almost like ten years after they've
built this prison, So yeah, you're right, they've found a
way to well at least put on little plays. Right,
so they got to be making food somewhere or if
you remember in a demolition man down in the subways
(06:21):
and sewers, they were frying up rats, right, yeah, true,
they're making a rat burger. Yeah, whenever you get hungry enough, man,
you anything true story? Well, I don't know. There's one
scene where people that live underground is kind of bust
up through the floorboards and take this woman. Maybe there's cannibals, right, well, yeah,
they just call them the crazies, the crazies, which I
(06:42):
don't know what, like, what was that like diner built
on that they were just punching up through the plywood
and the floor, right, I mean, do you think the
dinner should have already fell through to the right subway?
What do you like? Luan that like apparently a quarter
is thick flywood for floors. Yeah, I don't know, but
it's a bad play.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The first thing that caught me was like, I never
would have thought about it before, but like it starts
panning over Manhattan, there's twin towers.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's like, oh shit, look at that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You never think about it until you see something old
and you're like, oh, yeah, that was a fucking thing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah that was iconic because you know, that's one of
those things they framed everyone every movie, Oh you know
old that had took place in New York. They always
made sure to frame the twin towers are because it
was such a landmark. Yeah, and yeah, not there anymore,
but it was. It was just it's always just like
a moment of brevity whenever you see that in the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right now. So, yeah, the thing is the President's plane,
like it's basically hijacked and they're gonna fly it in
uh crash into Manhattan. The is own of Manhattan. Yeah,
but fortunately air Force one in this world, it has
this crazy little pod that they could put the president
(07:52):
in and drop them out the back. They asked the
hand of Air Force one.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Right, I thought it was gonna like take off like
doctor Evil style, like.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, the president has his briefcase and they handcuff it
to him, and I always thought you see this another movie,
So I was like, that's just stupid, right, the bad
guy is gonna do he really wants to briefcase. He
cut his hand off and then also used the hatchet
to chop apart that flimsy looking briefcase like it's I
don't get it. I guess he can't drop it or misplace.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It, right, so yeah, just use some string man like
something you can untie so you don't lose a hand, right,
A slipknot.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
If you will. But yeah, plane crashes, The pod is somewhere,
and I guess they have he has like they have
a he has a beeper on him. Yeah. Yeah, Tracker
and all those soldiers everything they got going on to
protect keep people from getting out. No one's good enough.
(08:52):
They got to call in snake.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Let's what I loved is so that the crane plane
crashes and they're on that pod. Movie time was probably
like two minutes, which in real time is maybe what
like ten fifteen minutes, and they get to the thing.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And this is like abandoned.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No one's around anywhere, you'd think like, oh, there's I
don't know how many prisoners are on this island, but
you'd think that, like oh shit, Like everybody'd be like
what the fuck was that, Like he'd be looking around
doing this, doing that. Nope, it was just abandon gone.
President's gone, and there's David Bowie like that's it, telling
you to get to get off the island or they'll
kill the president.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And they already have his finger. They cut his fingers, right,
that didn't take long at all.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Why didn't they just cut the wrist If everyone to
cut a finger, cut the wrist man, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, once we know it's in the briefcase against like
huh yeah, a briefcase for that. There's a better spot
to hide that for cassette tape.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Another sound on the top of cassette tape, like right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Just before CDs became the thing. Yeah, but they need snake.
They make him a deal.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So it was just just a happy coincidence that he
was getting booked to go into the island at the
same time Air Force one crashes. If I'm reading it right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, because I read that, there was like a whole
scene they just cut it they cut it where he's doing,
like he hijacks a train or something and steals I forget,
but they set up to why he was arrested and
brought to this maximum security Uh. For some reason they
cut it. I guess it just felt like not needed.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, I guess at one point they basically say they
say he robbed Fort Knox or something, or tried to
rob Fort Knox or something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I was like, that's a fun little backstory that could
have been delved into. Well, maybe that's what he tried
to rob and got way on the train.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, I love they're booking him in like the in
the prisoner or the office, whatever the hell there was,
and they're basically like, you know, prepared to be next
helicopter to drop you off at leavest this time.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
If you'd like to just be killed now.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Like let your officer know and they'll take you this
room and blow your like you can sign your papers
and get your head and blown off or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm like, that's pretty dark. Well outside of the where
you're geting your food issues over in Manhattan, everybody seemed
to know them, Like I found it was like looking
up to him, like, oh my god, snake Whiskin.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Right, at least at the very least they know he
was a badass. Yeah, I don't know why everybody knew
him there.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It was great. Yeah I didn't understand, but yeah, he
was famous. All the criminals over there knew about him.
Ernest Borgnin knew him from just seeing him from behind,
like ye yo, yeah, that one, your snake Whiskin. He
was wearing some tight pants right some like what were
they both like snake skin or something? Oh? I know
(11:48):
they were. They were pretty. He had on, you know,
the world's strongest bro uniform with no sleeves. Sure, with
no sleeves, a couple of zippers. Though he's still the
eighties when they made He's Got It, they'd have outfits
with a bunch of zippers. It almost like a member's
only shirt. You have me old to get that reference.
Oh it was. It was. It was Kurt Russell's idea
(12:11):
for the ie patch and the scripted didn't call for one,
but he thought it'd be bad ass, kind of like
Old West End and is like, oh, ship, like an
old West hero rides in and fuck ship up. Yeah,
and he's like, cool, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Like that was whenever he's so that when they drop
him off, you know, they give him all this he got.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
He's got some guns, he's.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Got all this equipment, but he has this like cbe
walkie talkie before we get there.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Sorry, let's talk about how they get him in. Okay, Yeah, So, uh,
he's got this glider so you know, another playing pools
that gets him up. They unclip it and he just
glides him glides in headed right to the twin towers. Right.
It's like, oh yeah, snake, they're going to land right
(12:57):
on top of the twin towers. And even me, it's
like sitting there.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Soon as he said that, I'm like, I don't know
that there's that much room on top of the twin
hours A lane, right, a.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Glider, but apparently apparently an inconvenience, he was able to
like stop right at the very edge of the building. Cool.
And I guess the takeoff idea is like we're just
gonna tip it over the building, right, I guess, and
then we'll eventually be able to ride it and we'll
glide right out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I was wondering about that too. I'm like, this didn't
have a motor, didn't have a motor. Yeah, He's like,
we'll have to get there and then we'll launch. I
did love the fact that he was lying to everybody
saying like, I have a glider, like it was a
five person or something like it was one person glider.
Was he just gonna shoot everybody? When if they actually
got back there, like, yeah, where's he gonna put the
president from the wheel?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Hang on? So we got handcuff into the wheels, right, Yeah,
everybody's like going with him like they're gonna get out.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, brain brain. Yeah, that glider was hilarious. I mean,
and that was a lot of you know CGI or
whatever where they used back in the day. Yeah, it
was hilarious to watch because it was It wasn't necessarily bad,
but it was you know, like when you're watching the
The key Master and the Gatekeeper on Ghostbusters, you know,
(14:06):
right the Big Black Dogs or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You know, you could see like, oh, that's old school
CGI or Matt Painties whatever, but you know it's still
it looked good. Yeah, because the movie itself was a
little outlandish. Yeah, so I don't know, it just kind
of it kind of worked. Yeah. The Snake, he's a
real badass. Yeah, he gets in. He gets in there
right away, hooks out with a girl. He connects with
(14:29):
a girl, and she was about she was all about him.
Oh yeah, she was getting ready to take him down. Yeah,
until they pulled her through the floor and then the
crazies burst up through the.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It was just so odd that, Yeah, why would they
even think to reach through the floor. They didn't know
and nobody knew they were there. They just all of
a sudden break through plywood, not jump through, just hands
come through and just drag her down the hell you know.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, it's like red lights coming up through. It was
almost like it was hell. Yeah, I mean it was
supposed to be a little bit like it is hell
over here. I'm sure. Yeah, war as hell. Uh, it's
but snake. They did give him like the the best
weapon ever. It never needs to be reload. Yeah, he
could shoot walls so he can break through him easier.
(15:14):
There's one wall he like shoots like man, shoots like
a pattern, so he could easily bust through it. My
wife's like it looked like so thin. Why would he
waste bullets? He could just run right through. I'm like, yes, yes,
you're adding logic to it, and which looks cooler him
unloading a Zuzie on the wall and then busting through.
He never had to reload that thing just kept going, because.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
That's what I was sitting there going, like, I'm sure
they only gave him a finite amount of bullets.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know, it's not a video game. I don't know.
Yeah he did.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
He just peppered that wall, and I did. I'd laughed
at the same part. I was like, that was like
maybe paper did he even look at him and go like,
what are we doing here? Isn't more badass by just
jumped through it and like shoulder tackle through that thing.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, it's like Daniel Craig and the one Jane's Bomb
movie were just right through that drywall in the sequence,
or Morpheus through the bathroom wall and a matrix. The screamed.
But you know he had he knew he had unlimited Yeah,
we didn't. We didn't know he knew you know he
had the killer gun and the cheesiest walky talkie.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I know, it was so funny, Like that was in
my head. I'm like, if they don't think you're like
a narc, that thing gives it away, right, Like I
love to.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Like when he would use the walkie talkie. He'd have
to eat, pull up, say what he's doing, and then
clothes like it's like this big production this antanna, and
it's like, huh, yeah, it just looks it looks like
something he got the radio shack, right, antenna looked like
you want to date yourself reference radio shack.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Like the antenna looked like three ft long. Pull it
way out and then he didn't even say.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Over, like I don't understand, right, ten yeah, over and
out over, Roger, Roger, that's funny. But it didn't. It's okay,
uh because I don't know where he was keeping it
on his body, but he made one jump and it
crashed the Yeah yeah, I meiate like loses just like
a radioshock product immediately just shattered in pieces. Yeah, yeah,
(17:14):
that's some I'm back in the day.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'm sure, Like I'm sure that probably like seemed like
high tech shiit to throw on him, you know, if
your props department, right, maybe is that something like Adam
Savage like that says he's a big like cossplayer type guy,
like I want him to make a walkie talkie from
Escape from New York for me, right, because he's into make.
He was into making like the the Glove from hell
(17:39):
Boy and stuff like that. So I think I think
a walkie talking from Escape from New York is right
up his alley.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Have him do it with like a six foot antenna.
You can really exaggerate pulling that sucker out. And what
else did he have? He had a little tracking device.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Why he had his timer on his arm. He had
the tracking device for the president, which was null and
void pretty early.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah yeah, again by today's standards, always gear looked pretty cheesy.
Yeah yeah, but hey, it helped him, you know, he does.
Eventually he gets to that theater and right away, like
I feel like there's a guy gettingt he the President's tracker.
(18:22):
It looks like a guy stabbing another dude or just
beating the shit out of him. I guess he was
just beating the ship him. But first it looked like
he was stabbing him. And then then it's not the president.
The guy just stole the tracker, and then the guy's fine,
just kind of laughing crazy, like I'm like, oh, I
guess he wasn't getting stabbed, right. He looked like he
got three or four punches, just laid into him pretty good.
And then it was like some dudes that tried to
(18:45):
jump snake and he just like backed this one and
he easily just takes these guys down right, because I
forget what he was, some sort of military back special
forces or something.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, they had to make him make sure you knew,
like hey, just so you know, like he's about asses
like every other he wrote an action movie.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Probably doesn't even need the gun. Yeah, he probably jumped
through that wall without it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah, that, I mean, that was that part there, Like,
I mean, I feel like that was only to introduce,
really introduce. It takes the tracker off the president and
produces Ernest Borgnine's Cabby.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, the Cabby.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, which again just another thing this is outlandish. Is
Ernest borg I don't know if he's making a living
or what, but he's driving a Cabra on the fucking
Manhattan for ten years while he's in this right in prison.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
He's like, I used to drive this cabin regular, like
before I turned into this that same one.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Actually, it was so weird, like you could have actually
written his part completely out of the movie and it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Was would have been fine, Like yeah, I like Cabby. No,
I mean he was kind of like the comic release. Yeah,
I just wondered, like, I wonder how old Ernest borgnine
was when they made this. Oh man, he's one of
those guys that looked like he was ninety for forty years.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh yeah, because then I was whenever I first saw
the name, I was like trying to in my head,
trying to think, like, oh, how old was he was?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
He is? Am I going to see like a younger
or his borg nine? And like now the same one
I always remember. I remember him in the nineties. His
characters cute. I liked him well, I.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Guess I guess the only three thing they needed Cabby
for was at the end when he traded his hat
for that tape. Then that was the biggest, the biggest
lynch pin that Cabby played in the whole movie.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Like he moved, he wrote. You know, he threw him
around a little bit, but really at the end he
was he was meant for that trade. His Cabby was
into music and had cassette tape player in the in
his cab plot device. Yeah, there you go. I was wrong.
You can't be written out. You needed him, plus, didn't
you feel bad the spoiler at the end. Oh we
(20:44):
Cabby died. I felt bad for that cab. It's split
in two. Yeah, that was like, like I don't quite
get the physics on that they hit it because the
was it the sixty ninth Street bridge or something like
that they were trying to get across that. It was
a there was mines, which so again when they hit
him mine, yeah, I'm like, it literally just zipped it
(21:08):
perfectly round half back. See, everybody in the backs heat
was like what everybody in front State's like, whoa. It
was pretty Uh, it's pretty silly, all right. Yeah, I
mean we can talk about those minds later. But yeah,
but uh but again, everything is like super cool. Now
when he does get to well Duke, Yeah, again, there's
(21:35):
a gladiator battle in like a boxing ring. I was like, this,
this is great, this is the this is the best.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
He looked like that dude he fought looked like every
Russian character like off a video game in that type
of scenario, you know, big eyebrows, big mustache, just a
big hairy dude, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And apparently it was a pro wrestler named Ox Baker,
and I guess the guy in the scene he was
just like kind of rough really into this into this
fight scene, and Russell's stuntman just said to Kurt Russell like,
good luck. But I guess it all worked out. And
(22:15):
Kurt Russell was excited because he gets to hit the
guy with a baseball bat. Yeah so yeah, but yeah,
I was like, I should have known the guy's wrestler.
He's big, Yeah, big dude. They needed like you know,
and I guess Rocky three then like, oh, we need
a wrestler. Remember Snake Bliskin thought a wrestler. We're gonna
call this one Thunderlips. Yeah. Did this guy have a
(22:38):
name in that or was he just crazy man with
weird mustage? They might have been chanting something, but okay, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah. Let me look, I have IMDb open,
Maybe that'll give me the name. They also have Adrian
Barbo in this who was in other John Carpenter movies.
And she was like, I guess she's supposed to be there.
(22:59):
Was that brain squeeze Yeah, as Cabby put it but
didn't Yeah, but didn't Duke Gift.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah yeah, because brain made That's where they he was
a smart guy and he's going to have figured out
how to I love how they just glossed over it whatever,
But it looked like he was distilling gasoline because at
one point he was making gas. That's what That's why
the duke like, you know, liked brain because he could
figured out how to make gasoline and stuff for their cars.
(23:26):
And then, you know, one at one point during the
confrontation of trying to get off the island, they looks
like they just have distilling equipment there running and I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That was to be like, oh, that's he he's making
his gas. So yeah, yeah, I love that scene, the
fight scene. Yeah, because then people started snake snake. Oh yeah,
it was great because I'm watching this in this big dude.
They give him they unlike a lot of things, they
already have this giant guy, but they give both of
(23:58):
them baseball bats, not just you know, one of them,
to give both them bats and you know, snakes getting
a crap kicked out of them, and then they gave
them trash can lids and baseball bats with nails coming
out of it. And that's whenever I knew.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I was like, oh, this is it because baseball bats
you can take a beating, but you can only take
one shot to the head with a baseball bat with
nails coming out.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Of it, right, and sure enough, I mean he did.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
He did wallop on him a good bit with those
like on those trash can lid with that with that bat,
they went back and forth. It wasn't a good fight scene, no,
but it looked like a wrestler who was really into
the swinging this thing. So he just kept hitting them,
you know, they just kept hitting each other's a little
sheet trash can shields and then he slips them and yeah,
it just puts it in the back of his head.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And I love at the end because he didn't fall
down nothing. He just like fell forward and leaned on
the ropes. Then like just the how hung there? I
was like this, okay, but well, at least when you
get the same where like you know, when you die,
you you're that'd be way more realistic if they did that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I mean, and Isaac if you didn't like Isaac's Isaac Hayes,
if you don't know him, like from music or something.
The only other thing he was really prominent in the
South Park and when he.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Died on that he was the chef. He had the
voice for a chef right, and in that show whenever
he died, he definitely should himself. Yeah, what else, Like,
I need a fresh beer? Should we take a commercial break? Sure,
and we'll be right back. We'll be right back. Hey,
(25:34):
we're back. We're back, Okay, escape from New York. Yeah.
So he does find the president, right, yeah, so before
he was missing a finger. It was one of those
things where they cut off somebody else's finger to make
you think, oh, he had to ring on and everything
when he showed it to him.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Before he finds the president, though, one of my favorite
scenes is because it is so like what a prisoner
would do, is whenever the Duke's car comes rolling up
and it has two chandeliers mounted the car.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I lost it.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I was just howling laughing at that, like it was
I was like, that is such a prisoner type thing
to do, like to deck out your car because you
know what car parks a you're gonna find, well, I
want to put this that.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, you don't have that, You're not practical at all, no,
like and then you just like, what what, what cool
thing do we have?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
We have these really cool chandeliers. Put them on the car, Like,
so the car has headlights and chandelier lights.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Lit up. It's not just decoration. There are lit up
Like I was just I was like, that is so
fucking great. I don't know who thought of it, but
it's so great. Yeah the art director, Yeah, good job.
Good for him. Man by his car needed he was
the duke, got to make sure you which car is is?
Oh never mind, yep, don't get it with all the
(26:54):
pretty lights. Yeah, And I'm glad they had to like
have the brain to write off like the gasoline he
makes gas because otherwise, like they've been shut off here
for ten years, right and they're still driving cars around.
Huh yeah, they need a quick explanation for that, right.
Oh yeah, but it worse. It's great because it's it's fun,
(27:15):
Like it's cheesy, but it's fun that they cruise around
New York. And they were trying to beat the duke
over to his main building, so he took a sidecut,
and I guess I had to go through Broadway, of
all places, Broadway, and it was just it was just
like a bunch of crazy is just throwing shit at
(27:38):
their car as they drove by.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And what got me was the whole time, I'm going
like why is he going so slow? Like he was
just like putting through so they can all throw their shit.
I'm like, yeah, just guess it, man, like it. And
if you hit a few of them, who cares, You're
in prison.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Like see, I don't think it's illegal, right, Yeah, I'm
pretty sure if someone dies. There's no speed limit here
because there's no one enforcing it.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So but yeah, just crack no, he just like puts
through it like twenty mile an hour. Let him chuck
stuff out and you know, Adam and everything.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And then he comes to the roadblock. They put some
cars up at the end of the Broadway. How did
they get those cars up there? That was a wall?
They have a backo construction vehicle. Yeah. Yeah, it was
like a wall of three or four cars high, just
stacked up. But again, uh, plus, can you spins the
car around and rams it backwards? Yeah, well you don't
(28:27):
want to hurt he's in a Yeah you don't hear,
but like he's a Derby Derby Yeah boom, that's all
it took. Right, He's just mass thing right there, popped around, Yeah,
popped the car right still in his car is still
going strong.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I mean it was an old wagon, so for a
nineteen ninety seven. It wasn't the newest car. Yeah, oh yeah,
that was that that scenes did oh see. It just
cracked me up whenever he hit that wall and his
one car, one perfect cars, pops right out of the
bottom and he goes through all good, I know what
I'm doing, and then they just stop chasing them. They're like, oh,
(29:00):
he got the snake. Everything works so like luck or
karmam is on his side. Everything he attempts, it does.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Work, except robbing Fort Knox. That was the only thing
that ever worked. One thing I love. I don't know.
That was the thing too.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Was this brain guy he apparently knew who was also
a soldier. So I guess that's why one of the
reasons they're like, oh, that's why he's can't stand him,
right because in Blisken, I guess maybe maybe he wasn't
a soldier. Was it was it a mission that he
left him somewhere or was it a like a job
he was robbing something? Because I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, guys know he said you left me wherever you were.
You were late, that old that old tale, you son
of a bit too late. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, So they don't like each other, but they're but
they're unfortunately attached to each other to get the president
out and like.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Again, and they because he's like, yeah, I can help
get you out. Yeah, they think they're going to get out. Yeah.
You think in Brain, his his name, his brain, he's
like making gasoline to keep the cars running. You think
he'd be like, so, would you come in on? I
got a glider hmm. I actually don't think it could.
I think it could actually fit five people. But yeah,
(30:13):
he's like cool, Yeah, let's get out of here.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well I love it because he's going to try to
double cross him again immediately when he figures out like, oh,
where could he have landed it?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You know? Yeah, oh on top of the tower, of course,
on top of the tallest building. Yeah. But they do
get up there and some assholes push his glidder off
the fucking roof. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't know how all those like, well that was
after they they rescue the president, so everybody's after him
and they all knew where they were going, apparently because
by the time, like Brain and the chick's name I forget, uh,
Adrian Barbeo Adrian, they're like they're trying to double cross.
So they're trying to get to the glidder first, well,
snake and the president get there again, where was the
(30:59):
president going?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
But either way, they get up to this glider and
there's like tween his legs. You work the stick and
I work the stick.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
But take it up there and there's like easily five
six seven guys up there, bad guys up there shooting
at them, like and trying to destroy the glider already,
Like how do.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
They know they were there? It also, you know, why
would they shooting ned snake makes sense destroy the glider? No,
you think, right? Use that. Yeah, let's trying to use
the glider to get the hell out of here.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No, right, because that's the that's the first thing at
the beginning of the movie that you see is two
guys trying to float across, you know, to float across
from the island to the mainland and immediately get blown up.
I love the helicopters, Like you have.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Ten seconds and it looked like they were trying to
turn around and they just went nah booms bluss shooting
miss them, blow them up anyway, two dead on the
water ten seconds, yeah, one zero. It's like it's like
the Home Alone one two ten yeah. Uh. It was.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
It was just hilarious, Like, I don't know how you
can tell in ten seconds if two guys have turned
around on a raft or not. I like that size
because you didn't have paddles.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
They were on ten seconds, especially when they don't know
how to right. Have you ever been in a raft
or canoe? Sometimes you can't do it right if you know,
if you don't know how to paddle. So yeah, it
could have given a few more secs. I think, Yeah,
there's new let's target practice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, they destroyed the glider and then they're left with
the with the plans to get across the sixty ninth
bridge and the whole concept of there being minds on it. Right,
some guy made it across and mapped them all out.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Here's the thing. So when they closed down the Manhattan, Yeah,
who had land mines? I go, I guess the the
uh the police? Did? I think the police mind it right?
Not the Oh okay, I with you, Yeah, But I
but in my why was I thinking that? Yeah they
did that? But in my head it's I was thinking,
did the bad guys? Yeah? Wow? Did mine to keep
(33:05):
anybody coming in? But like, it's just a.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Bridge, it's not like there's shrubbery laying everywhere and stuff
where they could hide mines. It's just a bridge, and
like all of a sudden, this stuff's they're just driving
over pavement and it blows up, Like where how did
they hide the mines?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Where did they hide the mines? That's so cracked me up?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Was like, I feel like I could walk across the bridge,
maybe if it's a tripwire or something.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
But now, why mind the bridge? Why not blow it up? Yeah?
I don't know why. They felt like any reason to
have one bridge right still to go to Manhattan. They thought,
well maybe in ten years. The pres sense kind of,
oh maybe Broadway will make a comeback. Every once in
a while, we think maybe we should just go kind
(33:49):
across and we see what's what they're up to. They'll
put there.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
They'll be like a you know, pay per view TV,
We're going to mount some cameras on Manhattan, but raise
some money.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, the duke is chasing them. Brain thinks he has
a map, he knows where the minds are. Turns out
he's really wrong. I love how he's like, I'm the
only one that can read the map. Go left, go left,
He's he goes left and blows up. Yeah, and then
Adrian Barbo is really angry, so she must have loved him.
Oh yeah, and Snake is her a gun. She's gonna
(34:20):
stay she's just shooting at the Duke's car. Here's the thing,
get out. You helped set the president. You'll probably get
some type of party. You're so angry. You gotta stay
there and shoot the duke because the duke actually didn't
kill him. The mind did, right, but it's like, yeah,
(34:40):
my head or to very sacrifice yourself for Snake and
the president even though she'd like didn't do anything. Yeah, no,
well she started shooting. Oh yeah, he was too far out.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
She has this like small pistol, almost a snubnose that
look like and he's like fifty yards away and she
just starts unhobting it.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I was like, I don't know how good shot she is,
but you better be pretty good shot if you're going
to have a moving car, like even if it's coming
at you, it's a car coming at you from there.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
For I can see any reasons just to stand right
there right, get behind something, get behind something off to
the side. You know, no, I'll start I'll end up
shooting all my bullets for your within one hundred yards
of me. Yeah, and then I'm still gonna be right here,
so you can you can run into me, right, That
was the here thing is, see if you hide, maybe
(35:26):
you can shoot him as they go past or something.
But also he's not.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
The genius a lot of genius because he just hits
a couple of cars and just crashes into her, and
then then his car is trashed, chandeliers is gone, like right.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know it took him a while to uh mount chandeliers. Yeah,
I again looped that bad ass. I mean, you think
you'd be concerned. I would. That's you know, it's not
like there's easily a body shop you could find. I'm
to get it fixed again.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I'm sure there's probably a lack of cars too, Like
you can't can't just put them on a new car,
that's the way I think.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, I mean they'd be like whoa, whoa. It's like
one of the last Cadillacs with chandelier's mouthed over here.
Let's talk to collect this addition. Come on, baby, But
uh again, snake karma, it's working for him. He gets
out with pres What I thought was weird, is they?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
So they get to end the wall and they know
they're coming, so they put a little put a wire
down to pull him up, and he puts the president
on first, which I'm like, if I'm the bad guy,
no President's going last.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Sorry, Press, you're worth more than me. They can let me.
I mean, what are they gonna do? Yeah, okay, we
got the president, thank you, and uh.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But the President goes up and then you just see
a hand, like they start bringing snake up, there's a
hand that comes out of nowhere and stops the cable
winch and I'm like why because then it shows the
president with a machine gun or something and he guns
down with the duke, and he's pissed because I don't
know what the duke did.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
To him, but it seemed really bad.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I don't think he cut his finger off, Well, he
cut his finger off, but I think he may have
done other things because he was very angry reading the duke.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
He like he put a whole clip into the du
from Okay, yeah, that's a good reference.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
But but then he shoots the dude kills him, and
then I guess it's him who turns lever back on
to bring snake the rest of the way up. You
didn't need to stop and make him bait like right,
and you could have shot him while snake was being
pulled up. It was just it just cracked me, like
that was completely pointless and that just shows that that
president was a dick. Yeah, not that you didn't get
(37:33):
it at the end, like barely giving a ship about
you know him, the people saved him, but yeah, that
president was a dick.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Why would you stop it like that? That makes no sense?
And so he still makes it to uh his presser
to address Russia and China. Yeah, because what the summit?
It was something about like nuclear power or something like
that was going to save the save the world. But
he had a tape that was the whole thing, this tape.
(38:00):
But what explains it? Yeah? And plus can switches the
tape out now? Again? I guess maybe I wasn't paying attention,
but like, I don't know, can the president just explain
what was on the tape? Right? He seems to know.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Or there's a scientist that told them that They maybe
say that scientist died or something that I missed.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I don't know, I was paying attention. Well, I had
a tape we're on that tape.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
It said this, but I got the tape and then
I killed him because that's way too valuable what I
have out there.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, snake gives zero Fox because he switches it out.
It plays that Cabby's favorite song. Yeah, like what some
old rag time, yeah kind of song, and the snake
walks away. He destroys the tape. Yeah, he doesn't care,
doesn't affect him. He's not called it forever. He's a badass. Oh,
we forgot to mention that. And I've seen this in
(38:54):
other movies. Yo, they implant snake. Oh yeah, And I
was like a little if he doesn't get the president
after like what twenty four hours for you, yeah, something
a little microburst will pop a vessel and kill him. Right.
But I've seen that in other movies where they eject something.
You know, if you don't get back here in time,
(39:16):
you will explode your head. Oh Suicide Squad, Oh yeah,
they had something in checked in their head that if
you don't listen to us away boom. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I did see that part of that one where they
did that with one of them, but in my head,
I was also seen in the trope where they do
that and then they get back.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I'm like, ah, that was just a joke. Yeah, screw
and there's nothing right. That's why I thought it was
going to be because the way they're like always we
have to do is run some radiation through it and
it'll be fine. It just seemed like that's not real.
And then years later a snake pisken has cancer in
his neck because they're running radiation. I do love that
part of it where he like they have that whatever
(39:52):
X ray machine whatever on that mountain, on that truck
waiting for snake to get over of the wall, and
as soon as he does, a guy like gets it
ready and like just puts like a look like paddles
from like you know, a d or something up to
his neck and here like a noise and he's like
he sits out and snakes looking at He's like that's it.
He's like, that's it. Yeah, tronology should be good. Yeah.
(40:18):
I had fun with it. Oh yeah, I was enjoyable.
I've seen it before, but it's a fun watch. I'm
not sure if my wife saw it. Uh, she probably
see the past. Probably I make her watch all the stuff.
But she had a good time with it. Did not
fall asleep. There you go. So it gets two eyes
open from Lish two eyes open. Yeah. I thought it
was fun, cheesy but in a good way like it
(40:42):
Yeah right, it was. It was cheesy, but.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Stuff you could easily look past for the for the
movie what the movie was, you know, like right, you
can point out, like my wife hates watching stuff with
me because I'm always like that certain things I can't
look past the holes. It just pisses me off too much.
And and this is one I could look at and
be like what the is that all about? But like,
fuck it, it's a stupid goofy movie. Like it's fun.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
So yeah, i'd probably go like like seven a half
eight out of it just fun actually played. I'm just
getting something set up I want to tell you about.
Oh we're done talking about this movie. No, I give
this one definitely like eight out of ten. Yeah, I
had fun. I think Snake Biskin is like just a
cool character and really like yeah, good calling the eye
(41:26):
patch Kurt like that. I love the outfit. Yeah, like
he had like shin guards on it. I'm still still
not sure why, but they look cool. They put him
out of a soccer Yeah, right, he could play soccer later,
What's what's up? His hair was on point.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Oh yeah, great eighties hair from Kurt Russell, really representing
the decade.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Well, and it's funny because the studio didn't really didn't
want him. Oh yeah, Carpenter had to fight for him. Well,
Kurt Eulsell is a great actor. Want. Some of the
people that they had on the list that the studio
wanted was Tommy Lee Jones m which I don't see again.
Another guy that seems like he's niney years old for
(42:09):
one hundred years like True Story, and another name you
will recognize, Chuck Norris. Can you see Chuck as a
snake pliskin? Nothing? I mean, he's been an enough action rules.
I think he could have pulled it off True Story.
But again again I say that Ipat really pulled it together. Yeah,
it's it's like the rug and big Lebowski character together.
(42:31):
His attitude. Yeah, he had a swagger going on with
his character and it it's cool. It's probably why people
like to cosplay. Yeah, go to comic cons dressed to
snake Plisky is just a badass character. Yeah, for sure.
It is really good that they picked Kurt Russell and
not Tommy Lee Jones because I do think it would
(42:51):
have made a difference. Yeah, oh yeah, and how fandom,
Yeah yeah, I like Tommy the Jones. But yeah, there's
just that's not one out of ma stured him in
not at all. He was great as a crazy guy
and underseage a bit a little over the top in
that one. Al Right, would you give it with your
score like seven half eight something like that? Nice? All right?
(43:15):
So it stumbled across something that just made me giggle
and I wanted to bring it up here. Let me
get a whole thing. So Apple Podcasts has like AI
built in to do like do transcripts, and I looked
(43:36):
at the one from Tombstone. It just cracked me up
on how AI broke it down. So this is AI
on episode fifty one Tombstone. Were good? Were good? We good?
What's up everybody? You're a huckleberry. It's swell cinema if
you can tell by Mark's little reference. We're talking about
(43:58):
Tombstone today. Oh we are. I was just I said
in my every day really yeah, I'm kidding. What your
every day saying is that it's number one on my
marchisms markets. It's just funny. It just struck me as
funny how it's trying to piece together two guys shooting
(44:21):
the shit right and it's not getting it quite right.
It's right, sky nef you what is our What is
your pick for next time? Please say Escape from La Please.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Say I was going to, but I'm not going to,
but I won't so you could say that one for later.
H I'm going back to the well oh the uh,
the Jean Claudewell because I think he had about what
thirty movies in the nineties that were all almost exactly
the same but all amazingly great to watch it.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, and I'm going with Lionheart. Oh all right, I.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Want to go Sudden Death because I really like that one,
but you have to pay for that one. Lionheart right
now is free on Pluto for the next thirty three minutes, so.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
If you go to Pluto, it's two b it's free.
So nice. Lion Heart again another kind of like Gladiator style. Oh,
he's gotta fight people, gotta fight.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
And then to the big bad guy. Yep, yeah, just
think I said to the Boss. Pretty much a cookie
cutter John Claude movie. But yeah, all right, right, well sweet,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Bot A bang boom, and, as we like to say here,
keep lifting that weight bitches, yes,
What's up? Hi, Hey, it's wool Cinema time. Yay, I'm Mark,
I'm Ryan, and this time we're gonna talk about Escape
from New York. Yeah, Kurt Russell, Snake, Snake, snake, plik
plisk is. It's pliskin right with a p pliskin. Yeah,
(00:28):
what do you think it was for? Like for the
longest time, like I thought it was bliskin. Sounded better
than me. I don't know. Snake Blumpkin, It's a whole
different movie.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That's how watch Why Where's an Eyepatch? It's actually just
got a really bad case of pink eye.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It was blumpkins. That's how the shows whoa I just got?
I just took it in the eye when Ryan opened
that can over there, you better you better say what patch? Yeah?
Ska wait wait wait what are we doing? Escape from
New York? Well? Here was this like it like it
(01:08):
was eighty eight, nineteen eighty one, Oh shit uh. Directed
by John Carpenter, one of my favorite directors because he
directed one of my favorite movies, Halloween. I was and
there was a lot of people that were in Halloween
in this movie.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I always thought, like the I realized he did that
whenever the credits and everything. But yeah, I never realized.
I just it's just me. I'm just stupid. I just
never realize that he did other movies that weren't like
horror based. I mean, this is like a degree or
two away from horror, but it was Yeah, I just
I never knew who I'm outside of the genre.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, it's just you know, one of the things like
when you're not a fan, you don't realize what someone
all what all they do.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So yeah, speaking of who's in the movie, Uh, Kurt Russell,
Lee van Cleef, Ernest Borgnine, Donald Pleasants, who was in
Halloween what I say, Isaac Hayes, Adrian Barbo, tom Atkins,
who was in the Halloween three season of The Witch.
(02:08):
So the cast was like pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, it was a funny thing about the movie was
just the first time when you're introduced to the Duke,
like the of the prison Isaac Cays, I didn't realize
Isaac Hayes was the duke because the first character you see,
like of the bad guys, is like the David Bowie
looking motherfucker right like, and so then they're talking about
the Duke and then you're there. Next thing you know,
(02:32):
they're taking him to the Duke and that's the first
guy you see. And then because he gets out of
the car and Isaac Cayes, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's weird. Did that little frail guy's the duke and
his muscles huge?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Isaac Hayes right, and then I was like, oh, wait,
that's like his girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
For a brief moment, the David Billie looking dude, I
was like, is that is that Michael Bean from the terminator?
Is that Coyle Reese? Just a split second there was
like something in his voice. Yeah. I was like, oh,
because I was like, man, that would be weird, but
it wasn't. Yeah. Before we get rolling here on the movie,
I want to read a comment we got on Spotify
(03:07):
from Pete. He says, yes, I was going to leave
a comment suggesting Escape from New York one of my
favorite movies of all time since you recovered Kurt Russell. Boy,
mess that up, Pete. Another great episode that had me
in hysterics looking forward to the next episode. In Mark
add Augusta, per Augusta, you did just fine, I said, well,
(03:33):
didn't do? Just find reading that comments are there for
a reason. Readings hard thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed Tombstone.
I really did think I butchered the Laddin, and I'm
surprised that did in summer some of the demon. But hey,
it just follows you now, Yes, it's my sidekick. Well, Pete,
I hope you enjoy our take on Escape from New York. Yeah, thanks, man, Oh,
(03:58):
be like Pete, leave a comment, Be like Pete Spotify,
Apple or email us swove Cinema at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, yes, so yeah, I think I said. I never
actually watched this movie. I watched the Escape from La
but I never watched this one before, so, as it gives,
it was not exactly what I was expecting. I actually
had no idea what to expect, but it was. It
was a fun play, like a fun story, you know, yeah,
like turning turning Manhattan into a prison.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's hilarious. So what is It's like? It takes place
in the well, this came out in nineteen eighty one.
I love it takes place in the future of nineteen
eighty eight, right, I loved it. I guess the United
States is at war with the Alliance of China and
the Soviet Union. I guess that causes like, you know,
(04:48):
financial issues something like that. It's funny because I never
even I never picked that up during watching the movie.
I had no idea. I just thought that I just
sawt crime issues. Yeah. No, the nat are the economy
US econo me is plummeted, is plummeted because of this war.
And crime has risen four hundred percent. Now that stat
(05:09):
made me chuckle because I'm like, okay, well crime rates
at one hundred percent to means everybody's mugging everybody right
at four? Does that mean like there's a there's a
good chance when you go to visit your moms you might.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Rob you just don't only your house man.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And the solution is to just build a wall around
Manhattan Manhattan. And that's the that's the reason. Don't feed them,
don't do him, just dump them in there. It was
so goofy. I love the fact that they're like, well
they even found like a way to way to have power,
way to do this. I'm like, they should be dead.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What are you going to like, you can't farm Manhattan,
Like they don't probably don't know how to farm in them.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
See He's like, what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Okay, Yeah, I mean it was pretty dystopian, but at
the same time, there wasn't just people laying around dead everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So yeah, so the movie Youself Is takes place in
nineteen ninety seven, Yeah that was, and I guess it's
like it would be almost like ten years after they've
built this prison, So yeah, you're right, they've found a
way to well at least put on little plays. Right,
so they got to be making food somewhere or if
you remember in a demolition man down in the subways
(06:21):
and sewers, they were frying up rats, right, yeah, true,
they're making a rat burger. Yeah, whenever you get hungry enough, man,
you anything true story? Well, I don't know. There's one
scene where people that live underground is kind of bust
up through the floorboards and take this woman. Maybe there's cannibals, right, well, yeah,
they just call them the crazies, the crazies, which I
(06:42):
don't know what, like, what was that like diner built
on that they were just punching up through the plywood
and the floor, right, I mean, do you think the
dinner should have already fell through to the right subway?
What do you like? Luan that like apparently a quarter
is thick flywood for floors. Yeah, I don't know, but
it's a bad play.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The first thing that caught me was like, I never
would have thought about it before, but like it starts
panning over Manhattan, there's twin towers.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's like, oh shit, look at that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You never think about it until you see something old
and you're like, oh, yeah, that was a fucking thing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah that was iconic because you know, that's one of
those things they framed everyone every movie, Oh you know
old that had took place in New York. They always
made sure to frame the twin towers are because it
was such a landmark. Yeah, and yeah, not there anymore,
but it was. It was just it's always just like
a moment of brevity whenever you see that in the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right now. So, yeah, the thing is the President's plane,
like it's basically hijacked and they're gonna fly it in
uh crash into Manhattan. The is own of Manhattan. Yeah,
but fortunately air Force one in this world, it has
this crazy little pod that they could put the president
(07:52):
in and drop them out the back. They asked the
hand of Air Force one.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Right, I thought it was gonna like take off like
doctor Evil style, like.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, the president has his briefcase and they handcuff it
to him, and I always thought you see this another movie,
So I was like, that's just stupid, right, the bad
guy is gonna do he really wants to briefcase. He
cut his hand off and then also used the hatchet
to chop apart that flimsy looking briefcase like it's I
don't get it. I guess he can't drop it or misplace.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It, right, so yeah, just use some string man like
something you can untie so you don't lose a hand, right,
A slipknot.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
If you will. But yeah, plane crashes, The pod is somewhere,
and I guess they have he has like they have
a he has a beeper on him. Yeah. Yeah, Tracker
and all those soldiers everything they got going on to
protect keep people from getting out. No one's good enough.
(08:52):
They got to call in snake.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Let's what I loved is so that the crane plane
crashes and they're on that pod. Movie time was probably
like two minutes, which in real time is maybe what
like ten fifteen minutes, and they get to the thing.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And this is like abandoned.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No one's around anywhere, you'd think like, oh, there's I
don't know how many prisoners are on this island, but
you'd think that, like oh shit, Like everybody'd be like
what the fuck was that, Like he'd be looking around
doing this, doing that. Nope, it was just abandon gone.
President's gone, and there's David Bowie like that's it, telling
you to get to get off the island or they'll
kill the president.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And they already have his finger. They cut his fingers, right,
that didn't take long at all.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Why didn't they just cut the wrist If everyone to
cut a finger, cut the wrist man, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, once we know it's in the briefcase against like
huh yeah, a briefcase for that. There's a better spot
to hide that for cassette tape.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Another sound on the top of cassette tape, like right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Just before CDs became the thing. Yeah, but they need snake.
They make him a deal.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So it was just just a happy coincidence that he
was getting booked to go into the island at the
same time Air Force one crashes. If I'm reading it right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, because I read that, there was like a whole
scene they just cut it they cut it where he's doing,
like he hijacks a train or something and steals I forget,
but they set up to why he was arrested and
brought to this maximum security Uh. For some reason they
cut it. I guess it just felt like not needed.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, I guess at one point they basically say they
say he robbed Fort Knox or something, or tried to
rob Fort Knox or something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I was like, that's a fun little backstory that could
have been delved into. Well, maybe that's what he tried
to rob and got way on the train.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, I love they're booking him in like the in
the prisoner or the office, whatever the hell there was,
and they're basically like, you know, prepared to be next
helicopter to drop you off at leavest this time.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
If you'd like to just be killed now.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Like let your officer know and they'll take you this
room and blow your like you can sign your papers
and get your head and blown off or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm like, that's pretty dark. Well outside of the where
you're geting your food issues over in Manhattan, everybody seemed
to know them, Like I found it was like looking
up to him, like, oh my god, snake Whiskin.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Right, at least at the very least they know he
was a badass. Yeah, I don't know why everybody knew
him there.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It was great. Yeah I didn't understand, but yeah, he
was famous. All the criminals over there knew about him.
Ernest Borgnin knew him from just seeing him from behind,
like ye yo, yeah, that one, your snake Whiskin. He
was wearing some tight pants right some like what were
they both like snake skin or something? Oh? I know
(11:48):
they were. They were pretty. He had on, you know,
the world's strongest bro uniform with no sleeves. Sure, with
no sleeves, a couple of zippers. Though he's still the
eighties when they made He's Got It, they'd have outfits
with a bunch of zippers. It almost like a member's
only shirt. You have me old to get that reference.
Oh it was. It was. It was Kurt Russell's idea
(12:11):
for the ie patch and the scripted didn't call for one,
but he thought it'd be bad ass, kind of like
Old West End and is like, oh, ship, like an
old West hero rides in and fuck ship up. Yeah,
and he's like, cool, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Like that was whenever he's so that when they drop
him off, you know, they give him all this he got.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
He's got some guns, he's.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Got all this equipment, but he has this like cbe
walkie talkie before we get there.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Sorry, let's talk about how they get him in. Okay, Yeah, So, uh,
he's got this glider so you know, another playing pools
that gets him up. They unclip it and he just
glides him glides in headed right to the twin towers. Right.
It's like, oh yeah, snake, they're going to land right
(12:57):
on top of the twin towers. And even me, it's
like sitting there.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Soon as he said that, I'm like, I don't know
that there's that much room on top of the twin
hours A lane, right, a.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Glider, but apparently apparently an inconvenience, he was able to
like stop right at the very edge of the building. Cool.
And I guess the takeoff idea is like we're just
gonna tip it over the building, right, I guess, and
then we'll eventually be able to ride it and we'll
glide right out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I was wondering about that too. I'm like, this didn't
have a motor, didn't have a motor. Yeah, He's like,
we'll have to get there and then we'll launch. I
did love the fact that he was lying to everybody
saying like, I have a glider, like it was a
five person or something like it was one person glider.
Was he just gonna shoot everybody? When if they actually
got back there, like, yeah, where's he gonna put the
president from the wheel?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Hang on? So we got handcuff into the wheels, right, Yeah,
everybody's like going with him like they're gonna get out.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, brain brain. Yeah, that glider was hilarious. I mean,
and that was a lot of you know CGI or
whatever where they used back in the day. Yeah, it
was hilarious to watch because it was It wasn't necessarily bad,
but it was you know, like when you're watching the
The key Master and the Gatekeeper on Ghostbusters, you know,
(14:06):
right the Big Black Dogs or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You know, you could see like, oh, that's old school
CGI or Matt Painties whatever, but you know it's still
it looked good. Yeah, because the movie itself was a
little outlandish. Yeah, so I don't know, it just kind
of it kind of worked. Yeah. The Snake, he's a
real badass. Yeah, he gets in. He gets in there
right away, hooks out with a girl. He connects with
(14:29):
a girl, and she was about she was all about him.
Oh yeah, she was getting ready to take him down. Yeah,
until they pulled her through the floor and then the
crazies burst up through the.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It was just so odd that, Yeah, why would they
even think to reach through the floor. They didn't know
and nobody knew they were there. They just all of
a sudden break through plywood, not jump through, just hands
come through and just drag her down the hell you know.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, it's like red lights coming up through. It was
almost like it was hell. Yeah, I mean it was
supposed to be a little bit like it is hell
over here. I'm sure. Yeah, war as hell. Uh, it's
but snake. They did give him like the the best
weapon ever. It never needs to be reload. Yeah, he
could shoot walls so he can break through him easier.
(15:14):
There's one wall he like shoots like man, shoots like
a pattern, so he could easily bust through it. My
wife's like it looked like so thin. Why would he
waste bullets? He could just run right through. I'm like, yes, yes,
you're adding logic to it, and which looks cooler him
unloading a Zuzie on the wall and then busting through.
He never had to reload that thing just kept going, because.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
That's what I was sitting there going, like, I'm sure
they only gave him a finite amount of bullets.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know, it's not a video game. I don't know.
Yeah he did.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
He just peppered that wall, and I did. I'd laughed
at the same part. I was like, that was like
maybe paper did he even look at him and go like,
what are we doing here? Isn't more badass by just
jumped through it and like shoulder tackle through that thing.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, it's like Daniel Craig and the one Jane's Bomb
movie were just right through that drywall in the sequence,
or Morpheus through the bathroom wall and a matrix. The screamed.
But you know he had he knew he had unlimited Yeah,
we didn't. We didn't know he knew you know he
had the killer gun and the cheesiest walky talkie.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I know, it was so funny, Like that was in
my head. I'm like, if they don't think you're like
a narc, that thing gives it away, right, Like I
love to.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Like when he would use the walkie talkie. He'd have
to eat, pull up, say what he's doing, and then
clothes like it's like this big production this antanna, and
it's like, huh, yeah, it just looks it looks like
something he got the radio shack, right, antenna looked like
you want to date yourself reference radio shack.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Like the antenna looked like three ft long. Pull it
way out and then he didn't even say.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Over, like I don't understand, right, ten yeah, over and
out over, Roger, Roger, that's funny. But it didn't. It's okay,
uh because I don't know where he was keeping it
on his body, but he made one jump and it
crashed the Yeah yeah, I meiate like loses just like
a radioshock product immediately just shattered in pieces. Yeah, yeah,
(17:14):
that's some I'm back in the day.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'm sure, Like I'm sure that probably like seemed like
high tech shiit to throw on him, you know, if
your props department, right, maybe is that something like Adam
Savage like that says he's a big like cossplayer type guy,
like I want him to make a walkie talkie from
Escape from New York for me, right, because he's into make.
He was into making like the the Glove from hell
(17:39):
Boy and stuff like that. So I think I think
a walkie talking from Escape from New York is right
up his alley.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Have him do it with like a six foot antenna.
You can really exaggerate pulling that sucker out. And what
else did he have? He had a little tracking device.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Why he had his timer on his arm. He had
the tracking device for the president, which was null and
void pretty early.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah yeah, again by today's standards, always gear looked pretty cheesy.
Yeah yeah, but hey, it helped him, you know, he does.
Eventually he gets to that theater and right away, like
I feel like there's a guy gettingt he the President's tracker.
(18:22):
It looks like a guy stabbing another dude or just
beating the shit out of him. I guess he was
just beating the ship him. But first it looked like
he was stabbing him. And then then it's not the president.
The guy just stole the tracker, and then the guy's fine,
just kind of laughing crazy, like I'm like, oh, I
guess he wasn't getting stabbed, right. He looked like he
got three or four punches, just laid into him pretty good.
And then it was like some dudes that tried to
(18:45):
jump snake and he just like backed this one and
he easily just takes these guys down right, because I
forget what he was, some sort of military back special
forces or something.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, they had to make him make sure you knew,
like hey, just so you know, like he's about asses
like every other he wrote an action movie.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Probably doesn't even need the gun. Yeah, he probably jumped
through that wall without it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah, that, I mean, that was that part there, Like,
I mean, I feel like that was only to introduce,
really introduce. It takes the tracker off the president and
produces Ernest Borgnine's Cabby.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, the Cabby.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, which again just another thing this is outlandish. Is
Ernest borg I don't know if he's making a living
or what, but he's driving a Cabra on the fucking
Manhattan for ten years while he's in this right in prison.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
He's like, I used to drive this cabin regular, like
before I turned into this that same one.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Actually, it was so weird, like you could have actually
written his part completely out of the movie and it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Was would have been fine, Like yeah, I like Cabby. No,
I mean he was kind of like the comic release. Yeah,
I just wondered, like, I wonder how old Ernest borgnine
was when they made this. Oh man, he's one of
those guys that looked like he was ninety for forty years.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh yeah, because then I was whenever I first saw
the name, I was like trying to in my head,
trying to think, like, oh, how old was he was?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
He is? Am I going to see like a younger
or his borg nine? And like now the same one
I always remember. I remember him in the nineties. His
characters cute. I liked him well, I.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Guess I guess the only three thing they needed Cabby
for was at the end when he traded his hat
for that tape. Then that was the biggest, the biggest
lynch pin that Cabby played in the whole movie.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Like he moved, he wrote. You know, he threw him
around a little bit, but really at the end he
was he was meant for that trade. His Cabby was
into music and had cassette tape player in the in
his cab plot device. Yeah, there you go. I was wrong.
You can't be written out. You needed him, plus, didn't
you feel bad the spoiler at the end. Oh we
(20:44):
Cabby died. I felt bad for that cab. It's split
in two. Yeah, that was like, like I don't quite
get the physics on that they hit it because the
was it the sixty ninth Street bridge or something like
that they were trying to get across that. It was
a there was mines, which so again when they hit
him mine, yeah, I'm like, it literally just zipped it
(21:08):
perfectly round half back. See, everybody in the backs heat
was like what everybody in front State's like, whoa. It
was pretty Uh, it's pretty silly, all right. Yeah, I
mean we can talk about those minds later. But yeah,
but uh but again, everything is like super cool. Now
when he does get to well Duke, Yeah, again, there's
(21:35):
a gladiator battle in like a boxing ring. I was like, this,
this is great, this is the this is the best.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
He looked like that dude he fought looked like every
Russian character like off a video game in that type
of scenario, you know, big eyebrows, big mustache, just a
big hairy dude, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And apparently it was a pro wrestler named Ox Baker,
and I guess the guy in the scene he was
just like kind of rough really into this into this
fight scene, and Russell's stuntman just said to Kurt Russell like,
good luck. But I guess it all worked out. And
(22:15):
Kurt Russell was excited because he gets to hit the
guy with a baseball bat. Yeah so yeah, but yeah,
I was like, I should have known the guy's wrestler.
He's big, Yeah, big dude. They needed like you know,
and I guess Rocky three then like, oh, we need
a wrestler. Remember Snake Bliskin thought a wrestler. We're gonna
call this one Thunderlips. Yeah. Did this guy have a
(22:38):
name in that or was he just crazy man with
weird mustage? They might have been chanting something, but okay, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah. Let me look, I have IMDb open,
Maybe that'll give me the name. They also have Adrian
Barbo in this who was in other John Carpenter movies.
And she was like, I guess she's supposed to be there.
(22:59):
Was that brain squeeze Yeah, as Cabby put it but
didn't Yeah, but didn't Duke Gift.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah yeah, because brain made That's where they he was
a smart guy and he's going to have figured out
how to I love how they just glossed over it whatever,
But it looked like he was distilling gasoline because at
one point he was making gas. That's what That's why
the duke like, you know, liked brain because he could
figured out how to make gasoline and stuff for their cars.
(23:26):
And then, you know, one at one point during the
confrontation of trying to get off the island, they looks
like they just have distilling equipment there running and I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That was to be like, oh, that's he he's making
his gas. So yeah, yeah, I love that scene, the
fight scene. Yeah, because then people started snake snake. Oh yeah,
it was great because I'm watching this in this big dude.
They give him they unlike a lot of things, they
already have this giant guy, but they give both of
(23:58):
them baseball bats, not just you know, one of them,
to give both them bats and you know, snakes getting
a crap kicked out of them, and then they gave
them trash can lids and baseball bats with nails coming
out of it. And that's whenever I knew.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I was like, oh, this is it because baseball bats
you can take a beating, but you can only take
one shot to the head with a baseball bat with
nails coming out.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Of it, right, and sure enough, I mean he did.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
He did wallop on him a good bit with those
like on those trash can lid with that with that bat,
they went back and forth. It wasn't a good fight scene, no,
but it looked like a wrestler who was really into
the swinging this thing. So he just kept hitting them,
you know, they just kept hitting each other's a little
sheet trash can shields and then he slips them and yeah,
it just puts it in the back of his head.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And I love at the end because he didn't fall
down nothing. He just like fell forward and leaned on
the ropes. Then like just the how hung there? I
was like this, okay, but well, at least when you
get the same where like you know, when you die,
you you're that'd be way more realistic if they did that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I mean, and Isaac if you didn't like Isaac's Isaac Hayes,
if you don't know him, like from music or something.
The only other thing he was really prominent in the
South Park and when he.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Died on that he was the chef. He had the
voice for a chef right, and in that show whenever
he died, he definitely should himself. Yeah, what else, Like,
I need a fresh beer? Should we take a commercial break? Sure,
and we'll be right back. We'll be right back. Hey,
(25:34):
we're back. We're back, Okay, escape from New York. Yeah.
So he does find the president, right, yeah, so before
he was missing a finger. It was one of those
things where they cut off somebody else's finger to make
you think, oh, he had to ring on and everything
when he showed it to him.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Before he finds the president, though, one of my favorite
scenes is because it is so like what a prisoner
would do, is whenever the Duke's car comes rolling up
and it has two chandeliers mounted the car.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I lost it.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I was just howling laughing at that, like it was
I was like, that is such a prisoner type thing
to do, like to deck out your car because you
know what car parks a you're gonna find, well, I
want to put this that.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, you don't have that, You're not practical at all, no,
like and then you just like, what what, what cool
thing do we have?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
We have these really cool chandeliers. Put them on the car, Like,
so the car has headlights and chandelier lights.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Lit up. It's not just decoration. There are lit up
Like I was just I was like, that is so
fucking great. I don't know who thought of it, but
it's so great. Yeah the art director, Yeah, good job.
Good for him. Man by his car needed he was
the duke, got to make sure you which car is is?
Oh never mind, yep, don't get it with all the
(26:54):
pretty lights. Yeah, And I'm glad they had to like
have the brain to write off like the gasoline he
makes gas because otherwise, like they've been shut off here
for ten years, right and they're still driving cars around.
Huh yeah, they need a quick explanation for that, right.
Oh yeah, but it worse. It's great because it's it's fun,
(27:15):
Like it's cheesy, but it's fun that they cruise around
New York. And they were trying to beat the duke
over to his main building, so he took a sidecut,
and I guess I had to go through Broadway, of
all places, Broadway, and it was just it was just
like a bunch of crazy is just throwing shit at
(27:38):
their car as they drove by.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And what got me was the whole time, I'm going
like why is he going so slow? Like he was
just like putting through so they can all throw their shit.
I'm like, yeah, just guess it, man, like it. And
if you hit a few of them, who cares, You're
in prison.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Like see, I don't think it's illegal, right, Yeah, I'm
pretty sure if someone dies. There's no speed limit here
because there's no one enforcing it.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So but yeah, just crack no, he just like puts
through it like twenty mile an hour. Let him chuck
stuff out and you know, Adam and everything.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And then he comes to the roadblock. They put some
cars up at the end of the Broadway. How did
they get those cars up there? That was a wall?
They have a backo construction vehicle. Yeah. Yeah, it was
like a wall of three or four cars high, just
stacked up. But again, uh, plus, can you spins the
car around and rams it backwards? Yeah, well you don't
(28:27):
want to hurt he's in a Yeah you don't hear,
but like he's a Derby Derby Yeah boom, that's all
it took. Right, He's just mass thing right there, popped around, Yeah,
popped the car right still in his car is still
going strong.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I mean it was an old wagon, so for a
nineteen ninety seven. It wasn't the newest car. Yeah, oh yeah,
that was that that scenes did oh see. It just
cracked me up whenever he hit that wall and his
one car, one perfect cars, pops right out of the
bottom and he goes through all good, I know what
I'm doing, and then they just stop chasing them. They're like, oh,
(29:00):
he got the snake. Everything works so like luck or
karmam is on his side. Everything he attempts, it does.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Work, except robbing Fort Knox. That was the only thing
that ever worked. One thing I love. I don't know.
That was the thing too.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Was this brain guy he apparently knew who was also
a soldier. So I guess that's why one of the
reasons they're like, oh, that's why he's can't stand him,
right because in Blisken, I guess maybe maybe he wasn't
a soldier. Was it was it a mission that he
left him somewhere or was it a like a job
he was robbing something? Because I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, guys know he said you left me wherever you were.
You were late, that old that old tale, you son
of a bit too late. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, So they don't like each other, but they're but
they're unfortunately attached to each other to get the president
out and like.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Again, and they because he's like, yeah, I can help
get you out. Yeah, they think they're going to get out. Yeah.
You think in Brain, his his name, his brain, he's
like making gasoline to keep the cars running. You think
he'd be like, so, would you come in on? I
got a glider hmm. I actually don't think it could.
I think it could actually fit five people. But yeah,
(30:13):
he's like cool, Yeah, let's get out of here.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well I love it because he's going to try to
double cross him again immediately when he figures out like, oh,
where could he have landed it?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You know? Yeah, oh on top of the tower, of course,
on top of the tallest building. Yeah. But they do
get up there and some assholes push his glidder off
the fucking roof. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't know how all those like, well that was
after they they rescue the president, so everybody's after him
and they all knew where they were going, apparently because
by the time, like Brain and the chick's name I forget, uh,
Adrian Barbeo Adrian, they're like they're trying to double cross.
So they're trying to get to the glidder first, well,
snake and the president get there again, where was the
(30:59):
president going?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
But either way, they get up to this glider and
there's like tween his legs. You work the stick and
I work the stick.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
But take it up there and there's like easily five
six seven guys up there, bad guys up there shooting
at them, like and trying to destroy the glider already,
Like how do.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
They know they were there? It also, you know, why
would they shooting ned snake makes sense destroy the glider? No,
you think, right? Use that. Yeah, let's trying to use
the glider to get the hell out of here.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No, right, because that's the that's the first thing at
the beginning of the movie that you see is two
guys trying to float across, you know, to float across
from the island to the mainland and immediately get blown up.
I love the helicopters, Like you have.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Ten seconds and it looked like they were trying to
turn around and they just went nah booms bluss shooting
miss them, blow them up anyway, two dead on the
water ten seconds, yeah, one zero. It's like it's like
the Home Alone one two ten yeah. Uh. It was.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
It was just hilarious, Like, I don't know how you
can tell in ten seconds if two guys have turned
around on a raft or not. I like that size
because you didn't have paddles.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
They were on ten seconds, especially when they don't know
how to right. Have you ever been in a raft
or canoe? Sometimes you can't do it right if you know,
if you don't know how to paddle. So yeah, it
could have given a few more secs. I think, Yeah,
there's new let's target practice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, they destroyed the glider and then they're left with
the with the plans to get across the sixty ninth
bridge and the whole concept of there being minds on it. Right,
some guy made it across and mapped them all out.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Here's the thing. So when they closed down the Manhattan, Yeah,
who had land mines? I go, I guess the the
uh the police? Did? I think the police mind it right?
Not the Oh okay, I with you, Yeah, But I
but in my why was I thinking that? Yeah they
did that? But in my head it's I was thinking,
did the bad guys? Yeah? Wow? Did mine to keep
(33:05):
anybody coming in? But like, it's just a.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Bridge, it's not like there's shrubbery laying everywhere and stuff
where they could hide mines. It's just a bridge, and
like all of a sudden, this stuff's they're just driving
over pavement and it blows up, Like where how did
they hide the mines?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Where did they hide the mines? That's so cracked me up?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Was like, I feel like I could walk across the bridge,
maybe if it's a tripwire or something.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
But now, why mind the bridge? Why not blow it up? Yeah?
I don't know why. They felt like any reason to
have one bridge right still to go to Manhattan. They thought,
well maybe in ten years. The pres sense kind of,
oh maybe Broadway will make a comeback. Every once in
a while, we think maybe we should just go kind
(33:49):
across and we see what's what they're up to. They'll
put there.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
They'll be like a you know, pay per view TV,
We're going to mount some cameras on Manhattan, but raise
some money.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, the duke is chasing them. Brain thinks he has
a map, he knows where the minds are. Turns out
he's really wrong. I love how he's like, I'm the
only one that can read the map. Go left, go left,
He's he goes left and blows up. Yeah, and then
Adrian Barbo is really angry, so she must have loved him.
Oh yeah, and Snake is her a gun. She's gonna
(34:20):
stay she's just shooting at the Duke's car. Here's the thing,
get out. You helped set the president. You'll probably get
some type of party. You're so angry. You gotta stay
there and shoot the duke because the duke actually didn't
kill him. The mind did, right, but it's like, yeah,
(34:40):
my head or to very sacrifice yourself for Snake and
the president even though she'd like didn't do anything. Yeah, no,
well she started shooting. Oh yeah, he was too far out.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
She has this like small pistol, almost a snubnose that
look like and he's like fifty yards away and she
just starts unhobting it.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I was like, I don't know how good shot she is,
but you better be pretty good shot if you're going
to have a moving car, like even if it's coming
at you, it's a car coming at you from there.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
For I can see any reasons just to stand right
there right, get behind something, get behind something off to
the side. You know, no, I'll start I'll end up
shooting all my bullets for your within one hundred yards
of me. Yeah, and then I'm still gonna be right here,
so you can you can run into me, right, That
was the here thing is, see if you hide, maybe
(35:26):
you can shoot him as they go past or something.
But also he's not.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
The genius a lot of genius because he just hits
a couple of cars and just crashes into her, and
then then his car is trashed, chandeliers is gone, like right.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know it took him a while to uh mount chandeliers. Yeah,
I again looped that bad ass. I mean, you think
you'd be concerned. I would. That's you know, it's not
like there's easily a body shop you could find. I'm
to get it fixed again.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I'm sure there's probably a lack of cars too, Like
you can't can't just put them on a new car,
that's the way I think.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, I mean they'd be like whoa, whoa. It's like
one of the last Cadillacs with chandelier's mouthed over here.
Let's talk to collect this addition. Come on, baby, But
uh again, snake karma, it's working for him. He gets
out with pres What I thought was weird, is they?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
So they get to end the wall and they know
they're coming, so they put a little put a wire
down to pull him up, and he puts the president
on first, which I'm like, if I'm the bad guy,
no President's going last.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Sorry, Press, you're worth more than me. They can let me.
I mean, what are they gonna do? Yeah, okay, we
got the president, thank you, and uh.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But the President goes up and then you just see
a hand, like they start bringing snake up, there's a
hand that comes out of nowhere and stops the cable
winch and I'm like why because then it shows the
president with a machine gun or something and he guns
down with the duke, and he's pissed because I don't
know what the duke did.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
To him, but it seemed really bad.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I don't think he cut his finger off, Well, he
cut his finger off, but I think he may have
done other things because he was very angry reading the duke.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
He like he put a whole clip into the du
from Okay, yeah, that's a good reference.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
But but then he shoots the dude kills him, and
then I guess it's him who turns lever back on
to bring snake the rest of the way up. You
didn't need to stop and make him bait like right,
and you could have shot him while snake was being
pulled up. It was just it just cracked me, like
that was completely pointless and that just shows that that
president was a dick. Yeah, not that you didn't get
(37:33):
it at the end, like barely giving a ship about
you know him, the people saved him, but yeah, that
president was a dick.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Why would you stop it like that? That makes no sense?
And so he still makes it to uh his presser
to address Russia and China. Yeah, because what the summit?
It was something about like nuclear power or something like
that was going to save the save the world. But
he had a tape that was the whole thing, this tape.
(38:00):
But what explains it? Yeah? And plus can switches the
tape out now? Again? I guess maybe I wasn't paying attention,
but like, I don't know, can the president just explain
what was on the tape? Right? He seems to know.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Or there's a scientist that told them that They maybe
say that scientist died or something that I missed.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I don't know, I was paying attention. Well, I had
a tape we're on that tape.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
It said this, but I got the tape and then
I killed him because that's way too valuable what I
have out there.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, snake gives zero Fox because he switches it out.
It plays that Cabby's favorite song. Yeah, like what some
old rag time, yeah kind of song, and the snake
walks away. He destroys the tape. Yeah, he doesn't care,
doesn't affect him. He's not called it forever. He's a badass. Oh,
we forgot to mention that. And I've seen this in
(38:54):
other movies. Yo, they implant snake. Oh yeah, And I
was like a little if he doesn't get the president
after like what twenty four hours for you, yeah, something
a little microburst will pop a vessel and kill him. Right.
But I've seen that in other movies where they eject something.
You know, if you don't get back here in time,
(39:16):
you will explode your head. Oh Suicide Squad, Oh yeah,
they had something in checked in their head that if
you don't listen to us away boom. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I did see that part of that one where they
did that with one of them, but in my head,
I was also seen in the trope where they do
that and then they get back.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I'm like, ah, that was just a joke. Yeah, screw
and there's nothing right. That's why I thought it was
going to be because the way they're like always we
have to do is run some radiation through it and
it'll be fine. It just seemed like that's not real.
And then years later a snake pisken has cancer in
his neck because they're running radiation. I do love that
part of it where he like they have that whatever
(39:52):
X ray machine whatever on that mountain, on that truck
waiting for snake to get over of the wall, and
as soon as he does, a guy like gets it
ready and like just puts like a look like paddles
from like you know, a d or something up to
his neck and here like a noise and he's like
he sits out and snakes looking at He's like that's it.
He's like, that's it. Yeah, tronology should be good. Yeah.
(40:18):
I had fun with it. Oh yeah, I was enjoyable.
I've seen it before, but it's a fun watch. I'm
not sure if my wife saw it. Uh, she probably
see the past. Probably I make her watch all the stuff.
But she had a good time with it. Did not
fall asleep. There you go. So it gets two eyes
open from Lish two eyes open. Yeah. I thought it
was fun, cheesy but in a good way like it
(40:42):
Yeah right, it was. It was cheesy, but.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Stuff you could easily look past for the for the
movie what the movie was, you know, like right, you
can point out, like my wife hates watching stuff with
me because I'm always like that certain things I can't
look past the holes. It just pisses me off too much.
And and this is one I could look at and
be like what the is that all about? But like,
fuck it, it's a stupid goofy movie. Like it's fun.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
So yeah, i'd probably go like like seven a half
eight out of it just fun actually played. I'm just
getting something set up I want to tell you about.
Oh we're done talking about this movie. No, I give
this one definitely like eight out of ten. Yeah, I
had fun. I think Snake Biskin is like just a
cool character and really like yeah, good calling the eye
(41:26):
patch Kurt like that. I love the outfit. Yeah, like
he had like shin guards on it. I'm still still
not sure why, but they look cool. They put him
out of a soccer Yeah, right, he could play soccer later,
What's what's up? His hair was on point.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Oh yeah, great eighties hair from Kurt Russell, really representing
the decade.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Well, and it's funny because the studio didn't really didn't
want him. Oh yeah, Carpenter had to fight for him. Well,
Kurt Eulsell is a great actor. Want. Some of the
people that they had on the list that the studio
wanted was Tommy Lee Jones m which I don't see again.
Another guy that seems like he's niney years old for
(42:09):
one hundred years like True Story, and another name you
will recognize, Chuck Norris. Can you see Chuck as a
snake pliskin? Nothing? I mean, he's been an enough action rules.
I think he could have pulled it off True Story.
But again again I say that Ipat really pulled it together. Yeah,
it's it's like the rug and big Lebowski character together.
(42:31):
His attitude. Yeah, he had a swagger going on with
his character and it it's cool. It's probably why people
like to cosplay. Yeah, go to comic cons dressed to
snake Plisky is just a badass character. Yeah, for sure.
It is really good that they picked Kurt Russell and
not Tommy Lee Jones because I do think it would
(42:51):
have made a difference. Yeah, oh yeah, and how fandom,
Yeah yeah, I like Tommy the Jones. But yeah, there's
just that's not one out of ma stured him in
not at all. He was great as a crazy guy
and underseage a bit a little over the top in
that one. Al Right, would you give it with your
score like seven half eight something like that? Nice? All right?
(43:15):
So it stumbled across something that just made me giggle
and I wanted to bring it up here. Let me
get a whole thing. So Apple Podcasts has like AI
built in to do like do transcripts, and I looked
(43:36):
at the one from Tombstone. It just cracked me up
on how AI broke it down. So this is AI
on episode fifty one Tombstone. Were good? Were good? We good?
What's up everybody? You're a huckleberry. It's swell cinema if
you can tell by Mark's little reference. We're talking about
(43:58):
Tombstone today. Oh we are. I was just I said
in my every day really yeah, I'm kidding. What your
every day saying is that it's number one on my
marchisms markets. It's just funny. It just struck me as
funny how it's trying to piece together two guys shooting
(44:21):
the shit right and it's not getting it quite right.
It's right, sky nef you what is our What is
your pick for next time? Please say Escape from La Please.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Say I was going to, but I'm not going to,
but I won't so you could say that one for later.
H I'm going back to the well oh the uh,
the Jean Claudewell because I think he had about what
thirty movies in the nineties that were all almost exactly
the same but all amazingly great to watch it.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, and I'm going with Lionheart. Oh all right, I.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Want to go Sudden Death because I really like that one,
but you have to pay for that one. Lionheart right
now is free on Pluto for the next thirty three minutes, so.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
If you go to Pluto, it's two b it's free.
So nice. Lion Heart again another kind of like Gladiator style. Oh,
he's gotta fight people, gotta fight.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
And then to the big bad guy. Yep, yeah, just
think I said to the Boss. Pretty much a cookie
cutter John Claude movie. But yeah, all right, right, well sweet,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Bot A bang boom, and, as we like to say here,
keep lifting that weight bitches, yes,
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