Ep 54 - Above the Law - Swole Cinema

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
What's up everybody? It's Swoll Cinema time. Okay, So Ryan
and I decided, since it's the fourth of July weekend, Uh,
why don't we drop the above the little episode on you.
That's right, the lost episode, the one we weren't sure
if we wanted to air because we had too many beers.
But hey, here you go. You get to hear everything

(00:28):
we said about Steven Saga. We hope you enjoy it,
and we'll be back next time with a fresh episode.
So have a great holiday weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
What's up everybody? Welcome too? Sorry, did get that go
too loud?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
To get too hot? No, that's my excitement face. I
was like, here we go inaugural.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
It was inaugural first episode Swoll Cinema. What's up everybody?
I am Puck, I'm Mark, and we're here. We're going
to talk about some sweet ass action movies from years
ago called the nineties kids, and maybe some eighties some
new stuff, but mainly it's all going to be action movies,
stuff that we watched before. We're here at one hundred

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proof Barbell Studios at Pine Creek Steellery Distillery.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Wow, shouldn't have his beers right? Well, that's right here.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
We're gonna drink some beers and talk about some sweet
ass action movies from the past.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I think that says it all now. If you want
to know quick beats about us. Look, I work in
the craft beer rey, making sweet labels for beers podcast
on a show called Parental Punchers, And once a year
I do a backyard strong man event with my friend
who's sitting right here.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
It's going to be coming up in a month, about
four or five weeks. We got the world's Strongest bro happening.
That's one of the best events you've never heard of, probably,
I like to think.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, I've I'm a I'm Ryan, I'm Puck. Everybody calls me,
I am a competitive powerlifter. And I've done one strong
man I've gotten event, I've got another one coming up.
And every year we fucking do this shit in our
backyard and we're just into working out and having a
good time and beers and fucking great movies or or
not so great and just bad but watchable fun movies.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, and you know action movies with Again, the swallow
part is you arnold uh stallone.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
The nineties were some like if you look at uh,
like the Expendables. The Expendables today are some of the
best action movies from the past, and he brought them
all together, and honestly, they're probably some of the best
action stars of all time.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I don't know. I would debate that Mickey Rourke was
not He was, but he's a completely different person, right
he was earlier in his career.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
He really transformed himself with plastic surgery and I was like, man,
you you were.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I think some of the transformation came from getting repeatedly
punched in the face when he had breached in as
a boxer.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Man, now that you say that, I completely forgot about it.
And we'll have to at one point do Harley Davidson
and the Marlborough Man. Oh my god, I love that movie.
We're not doing that this week. This week we're going
to Steven Skat Above the Law for episode one. But yeah,
I remember watching that was the first experience I had
with Mickey Rourke and he him and Don Johnson were

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just badasses in that movie. It was so much fun.
That's just stupid action.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
There's such a stamp on what the nineties that Don
Johnson Nicky r.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Wow, that guy that like Don Like Don Johnson himself
had a fucking career right like Miami Vice.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
He had a couple of action flicks like.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
That, like Harley Davidson Marlborough, and then he did like
that weird TV series with cheech To like to round.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
It out, I've never I never saw the TV show
with I forget the name of the top of my head,
but I know what you're talking about again, Miami Vice.
I mean, it was a staple of the eighties. It
probably will always. People will always look back at that
and and probably want to watch it over and over

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on streaming.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
White or white blazers like sport coats are still in
style because of Miami Vice.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Dude. Look, I grew up in the eighties. Uh yeah,
I had some I had some off offits. I won't
but if I was to show you my uh high
school graduation photo, I was literally wearing the something out
of Miami Vice. Nice passed out. Look. I had like
like these pasted out blue pants on and this top

(04:42):
with like this pattern, and I think I was wearing
like some like flip flops. Look, im, I shouldn't been
telling you this.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
The eighties fashion is amazing.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
My mullet was like heavily feathered. So yeah, I was
living that Miami vice.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
H I like, yeah, I think about that, like the eighties.
The eighties was still fun for like retro parties and everything,
but it's it's fun because it was comical and and
the fun part was like every decade, every decade has
that like, oh you look back, like the seventies were
fun to like, but I feel like the seventies and
everything held better, held more water than the eighties did.

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The eighties was such a flash in the pan commercial
like it's okay, it was. It was fun for a
hot minute, but it was the easiest, easily the most
laughable decade of fashion.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Oh my god, I mean you have all the jack
the jackets with like five hundred zippers on him.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, Michael Jackson, he looked he was a badass back
in the day, like whenever he did the fucking Thriller
and everything, it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Are we swearing on this podcast? I was really imagine,
whoever's going to listen to this and watch these kind
of movies, which are you know, uh swear words nudity?
There was these are action movies. There was a and
I couldn't believe. So.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think I said, we watched for this episode we're
going to go above the Law with Steven Seagall, And
I was surprised to revisit it because I thought every
nineties action movie had one gratuitous boom shot and it
was missing it, and I it blew my mind, especially
when the wife was a relatively unknown at that time,
Sharon Stone right like, she's not a verse to showing

(06:24):
her her naughty parts.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
No, it was. I'm pretty sure this might have been
her first role, could have been one of her first roles.
She also when we were watching it, uh you know, Uh,
my wife was like, is that Sharon Stone. She didn't
quite look like Sharon Stone. I'm using her quotes. Yeah,
she didn't like her look like her movie persona just yet.

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And it was a little strange. And they gave her
like two things to say. Yeah, she was only in
like maybe five scenes and with the baby, hold this baby,
I'm gonna leave. Yeah, because a family man and having
a baby is going to play into the plot, right. Yeah. No, man,
I felt like the beard just maybe a little soft

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in that sound I made.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I guess, Yeah, so let's fucking get into Above the Law.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Above the laws? This was was this his? This was
his first? Like this was the introduction to Stevens nineteen
eighty eight. Now he was also the co.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Writer and produced did see he was a He had
some extra credits besides just actor.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
You wonder sometimes like everything you hear about Steve Segaul
is uh you know the extra credits? Right? Was he really?
Did he really? Now it does open up with it
almost feels like he's trying to tell tell the opening
like it actually is him, right.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, it's such an odd, muddled, little weird backstory to it.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
So in nineteen I moved to Japan and started learning
that kto which he did at one point moved to Japan. Uh,
he married a woman over there who whose parents or
whatever thinks ofthing like this owned an Akito school, and
then he started training in Akito. Okay. So again it

(08:15):
sounds like he's using like you what you assume is
like true points of his life, right, and then it
gets into like then the CIA recruited him and Laos
and Cambodia. The opening sequence where he's throwing people around
while he's telling the story about how I was going
over in here and like what I don't know what

(08:35):
he's saying, but it looks like he's kicking people's asses, right.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
And there was like, yeah, it was very unexplained, like hey, uh,
he looks like it's a scene where he looks like
he owns or is at.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Least like the highest black belt of this dojo. And
it was it was he was throwing his students around, right,
And it.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Was like there's a group of like four to five
like older Asian men in suits sitting in the back
and there's all his like apparently students like lined up
like twenty or thirty people just in like their white
geeze sitting there while he's up front. And then he's
just pointing out a couple of random ones to come
at him, and he's just tossing him around.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah. I don't know what they had to do with
anything in the story. It didn't, but I feel like
it did set up.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like whoa, this guy's I guess that was it, Like, Hey,
this guy's bad ass, this guy's a black belt. That's
you got to know this. This guy's a bad motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
And of course, you know, being a bmf uh Cia
wants to talk to you, right, which again became like
part of his like storyline in his real life, right,
he started telling people that you know, because of you know,

(09:45):
the school, his his his Akida school, CIA was interested,
and you know, there's also rumors where he started saying
like he was consultants and uh, we won't, I don't.
I won't get to much into this. But also other
CIA people came out and said bullshit.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, yeah, he's he said a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
But I did kind of like that opening. It kind
of made it feel like, like, what five minutes five
minutes of him whooping people's but while he talked over
it in a very love yeah, Like I didn't understand
that because he's his name, he's Nico Tuscannie yep, and

(10:31):
he's very Italian, very Italian. He just talk like I
feel like he probably watched The Godfather and thought I gotta.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Be everybody says Marlon Brando killed it and The Godfather,
I got to talk like Marlon Brando.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I think at even one point you're watching the movie,
my wife was like, what the fuck did he say?
It's like, I don't know, just keep watching. I don't
think it's important. Maybe the movie will explain this is
a purely a picture thing. I just watched the pictures,
but again he used real photos. And also when he
was talking about you know, being a kid, right that

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all he didn't make it like this is like a
bio pit. It was.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
That was weird. I remember watching that going like oh yeah,
so and you could tell like those are definitely his
like childhood pictures. Yeah, which was just I mean, I guess,
go for it, do it, do your thing man like
I And again maybe that was he corroded. That's how
he got those credits. Was like he gave like a.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Little bit of trying to make him self. Just everybody like,
oh my god, this is this based on a real
Steven Sagall's real life? Is like is this like Fargo?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Where they could be either like based on a true story,
but really it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Exactly fun fact though, because he's his name in the
in the movie is Nico Tuscani. In Russia, they labeled
them Steven Stagall movies like this is not called Above
the Law, It's called Niko. And then his second movie,
which is like Hard to Kill, they still they call
it Nico too, And so I get why I find

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that funny. It's just right. I don't even understand it,
but I guess it's.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Kind of funny, right, I was trying to quick thinking
back of my head, I was like, so that was
right after the Berlin Wall, Like Berlin Wall was around
eighty eight eighty nine, so these movies came out right
around that time where we still were is things were
still kind of I mean, I mean, the fall of
Communism kind of happened, but not really like there's those
some years ago.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
It was it eighty nine or was it eighty eight?
I think it was on I do know it was
on November ninth, because that's my birthday.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I remember, like, okay, I think it was eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, if you grew up watching this movie, I
remember in school I watched the thing called Channel one
on the morning announcements, which was weird, but yeah, they
like had a thing and I remember it was like,
I'm pretty sure it was eighty eight that they were
showing like clips of people, you know, dancing on the top.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Of the Barlin Wall and everything. That was for you
kids that are listening, that was a big deal. Yeah.
And then he gets recruited to the CIA by Nelson Fox.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, and that guy all I can think about when
I see that dude is a major league.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, I was like, where do I know him from?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
He that was probably his He was one of those
guys like back in that day, Like he was in
a lot of movies, but that's the one I just
remember him from. Was he was the old veteran pitcher
that had like fifteen different things he could rub on
his fingers to make the ball swin different ways, like
vagasil and all this other stuff. He's like, oh, I
got this, I got that, Like, yeah, he's the old pitcher.

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Like that's the first thing that came to my mind.
He's like, this guy was a major league is a pitcher,
and oh shit. Now he's apparently in Cambodia with Nko
Tuscani fighting the evil.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Leading the leads God into Vietnam. And so this is
like a kind of the setup for the plot. When
I say plot, it's like one of fifty in this movie. Yeah,
it's plot heavy then none of them really.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, Yeah, that was It was a weird, like nothing
was long drawn out. Everything was like quick hitting. Like
that was like that whole Cambodia scene where they're setting up. Okay,
so Nico's in the he was an amazing martial artist. Okay,
we get this all right. He's in Cambodia con you know,
with the CIA, and that's the whole scene from him

(14:34):
going like I'm in Cambodia. I'm with the CIA too.
Uh like, oh, look, the CIA is a full of
bad guys on you to get out of here. Was
maybe five minutes. Yeah, Like it wasn't quick, it was
it was, I mean it was quick. It was him
and Nelson Fox. Nelson Fox somehow quote unquote rescues him
like by like covering him while he tells him to
get out after he beats up the main bad guy.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, the main bad guy uh uh Zargun. I have
to get what his weird names. But he's using like
like sodium pentathal whatever he's in jecty people to kind
of get true and they're brutal to him, beating them up,
trying to get information up.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
And it was all about there where the opium. It
was like the CIA was peddling opium and they wanted
to know where the opium was. Someone stole one of
their shipments or something that they didn't care about the war.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
It was all about where the drugs and uh so,
uh Nico has had enough and he says no, and
then he fights.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think he starts. He leveled up, leveled two or
three of him pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, and then he's like, I'm not I'm out, I'm
out Fox. And then here's like all these soldiers, Yeah,
five of like what we find to come to find out,
are like five of the baddest assassins in the CIA.
He just walks off in the woods like I'm out,
and Fox is like, hey, no, everybody's staying on that porch. Nobody.

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I'm like, they would light him up, and Fox right,
they would. They would not let him walk away with
the information that he just saw. Also, after kicking a
few other.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Hosh, yeah, he decked like two or three of their
best guys.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
They just let him walk off into the jungle of Vietnam.
And I don't know where he was going. He didn't
have a he didn't have an LZ get like for
a copper to come right to pick him. But also,
and I've always wonder this ever since I saw this
back in the eighties, like and maybe it's a thing.
Uh I probably should have googled it, but I won't. Uh,
but they had these all the CIA agents had these

(16:34):
scarves on, and I was in the middle of Vietnam.
Why the why do you wear a scarf? Is that
identify your CI? But maybe that's something you wouldn't want
to be identified as because you're c I A you
want to be over.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Weren't they like blue? Were they crips?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I don't know. I don't know. It was like, yeah
they did.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I remember seeing it and thinking that for a split second,
but then like the rest of the scene happened and
I just completely forgot about it. But yeah, I always
wonder like, why did the CIA agents wear and you're
scarves in the middle of swaltering jungle. Yeah, let's let's
suppose some extra clothing on for no reason.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I assume it made him and I feel like I've
seen this in other movies, and maybe they actually been
Sigall movies, So maybe he just thought, like, you know, hey,
the CIA wears.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Stevens calls a producer because he produced all these scorves.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Hey, look, I gotta sell them, so I keep put
them in movies. So people want to buy Stevens sag
dot com go and buy your blue scarf. Oh, yeah,
you're right. He just walked. I'm out, I'm out Fox. Yeah.
Nobody shoots at him. No, one's like, hey, that's probably
a security risk, right. They let him leave.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, and all of a sudden he appears how many
years later as a Chicago policeman.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, it was originally they were when they wanted a
film in San Francisco. They were supposed to be uh
uh Bay area cops. Okay, but they moved it to
uh Chica, I go, which I think is a good setting.
And I think Chicago has been used even for Gotham
City and uh the Batman movies that uh, I forget
the director's name. It'll come to me.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Five minutes from Michael Bay No, no.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Not enough explosions. I can see his face, but came.
But anyway, Yeah, Schoemacker, gently wasn't that's the guy famous
put nipples on the batsuit. It's not very small cinema
nipples on the batsuit.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh, I mean if you're pecks with that, bigger nipples
can show through art plastic. Hell yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
So he shows up as a Chicago cop years later,
with Pam Greer as his partner, which I completely forgot
she was his partner. Me too, that was that was
fun to see again.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
But she's awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, she was great like she I mean on all series,
like I now think about it, like she she was
his partner. And she still didn't even have that many scenes,
not really, And.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I found what there was on I I am dB
or something. Pam Grew really liked this movie because she
felt like she got an opportune to act. I'm like,
wow when she heard this, maybe maybe that's it. Maybe
a little they cut a bunch of stuff out. Yeah
that stings because I didn't feel like she was in
it much.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, like yeah, she had like two three scenes and
it was always like stay here and then.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
You're gonna get shot. And was like, but I do like,
how like one of the first because it's an action pick,
so we need to get to another action set piece, right.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
And I was gonna say, I think the next thing
we can talk about is that the really the only
fight scene this this movie was when I went back,
I remember, I was super excited to rewatch this movie
because even though my feelings about Steven Seagall, what we
revealed when we can recap.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
A little bit here, excuse me Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
But uh, I was super excited to watch this movie
because I remember just loving it whenever I like, whenever
this came out, me too.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Was dude, I practiced like that that move he was
doing like people on the streets where he blocking and
throat throat chop you yeah, and then like rewatching it.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I was like, oh, man, Like, so the biggest fight
scene comes where he's like he discovers like shit's happening,
Shit's going down. He's in the discovery process of who's
the bad guys and everything, and there's this big fight
scene where people try to kill him.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
They shoot up his car, hold on, like before you
get there, they'll go you're talking about the bar fight scene. Yes,
okay again. One of the many plots that we kick
off right away is that his cousin. His cousin's like
kind of am I A you know, maybe she's into
Simbashi and he goes like, IM go find it right.
That was only like that.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
That was purely a hey, we need an action scene
where he beats some people up.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, we're retired of here and we need to see
you fight. Sneeze ran away again. Yeah, So he goes
to this bar it was a weird bar. I thought
that the bodega with a bar in the back. I
thought the front half was a grocery store. In the
back half it was a bar. It was really strange.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I'm willing to bet, like, if we think about it,
now exists that that was the same scene where the
fight the next fight scene happened. So they were probably
just saving money, like but he did yeah, look like.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
But he goes in there and look everybody, Now these
are not good people. I feel like, if you want,
but they were just having a beer and he walks in.
He's like yeah, he just starts shipping. He started all
the ship even hits that one guy hard in the
back like he hey, man, have you seen seen this girl? Shoot?
No man. Another guy's like, yeah, I seen, I've seen

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the top of her head, which is a solid line.
And then it's but then uh, that's when it escalates
quickly and he It is a pretty good scene where
he's he's using a lot of like elbows. There was
a lot of clothes breakings left and lot left it
lot left and right. Whoa, what's the percentage of this movement?

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So that's pretty fun. And there was I really like
in the scene, there's a guy across the bar right
before he starts, uh fucking people up, who's like, what
does he say here? I think I made a note
because I thought it was funny and you might know
the guy. It's Michael Roker from Guardians of the Galaxy.
Oh yeah, yeah. Whenever I saw him, I was like,

(22:26):
I'm Mary Papas, y'all again to go to major league. Yeah,
he was in major League, wasn't he was? Maybe no, no, no,
six degree No, I'm thinking no, I'm thinking of yon Do. Yeah,
yon Do in Guardians of Galaxy. Michael Roker. Uh, he
was in it first split second because he walked in.
Of course, Nico is a cop. He's like, uh, this

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is a kosher bar. No pork. It's like that's again
solid and he doesn't even get his ask keck for
he's on the other Everybody on the one side yeah,
oh yeah, bloody out. Oh there's one guy that has
a gun. Because the bar team says like, hey, fuck
this guy up. Yeah he was gun. He's like freeze, freeze,

(23:15):
don't you know that's what happens in a bar fight. Yeah,
Like it felt like the kind of bar and the
kind of people probably worked for one of the main
bad guys. But you're gonna tell him to.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Freeze and he's standing there with a snubnoe pistol like
a foot away.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, what do you think is gonna happen? Stephen? Yeah right,
like I want to But it looked like a pat pat.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
That was That was a slap you give to a
guy who knows you're not he's not gonna shoot.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the edited like that particular
moment of editing the show, I Keto being awesome was
more like.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, it was like patty Cake and I'm gonna put
you in a face.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah you're dead. But he did throw a few elbows,
like nose, we're being just broken. So I thought, uh,
that was pretty good. That.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, that that fight scene was fun. I enjoyed that one.
And because it was it was set up by Hey,
let's go into a CD bar, let's make these guys,
let's let let's let the audience know. All these guys
are pieces of ship. That's why they come here. We
all know they do bad things. He's gonna kick the
ship out a couple of them and go find his
niece and take her home, but.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
She does, she's upstairs, paunch you cocaine?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, I don't even know if it was just cocaine
he had like it was like a candy store worth
of drugs. But it looked like but yeah, in a mirror,
like so many lines of undone cocaine.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Were they planning a day of this? Yeah? I think
so with a lot he had lines cut out, Like.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Right, I'm not a professional cocaine user, but this guy
looked like he had his day planned and.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
He's high as hell. Yeah, even she's like a nico yiuse.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
He grabs his what bus his nose up immediately and
the guy like you do really just gives up everything
and immediately like yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
The guy's high as hell. He could have just handcuffed him, right,
and but like hey, taking out here he started he
smashed his face into the coke. Ye forgot. The guy
has done nothing. He's in fact, he was laughing at first,
like ah man, yeah you want some cocaine. Maybe that
pissed him off.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'm sure, I'm sure, like the whole like but it
was I'm nailing your waists.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
But was the niece underage? You know what she could
have been I did watch it, Jack, and I didn't
even think about that hill now that there was no die,
I could remember dialogue saying she was under age. But
I thought maybe for a second there was implication implications
that she was under age, and that's why.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, because and maybe that's why the movie.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Didn't which was even more it didn't.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Implicate that, like she had had sex with him. She
was still like in her underwear and.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
She was like, I'm tired of you, Niko, I'm tired
interfew in my life. Yeah, but maybe she was under
age then again, which is perfect for him to continue
to smash that guy's face.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Which coke mirror, which then in all circumstances for drugs
and underage. Yeah, kick this dipshit's ass because he was
not underage, like he looked like he was twenties.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh yeah, twenty four and he gives up information right away. Yeah,
he's such a pussy. We didn't oh, we didn't move.
You know, I've heard rumors how Segal on set is
pretty brutal to st and the way he was smashing
this guy's face. Maybe wonder like did he go did
he go for it and really smash this guy? Yeah?

(26:36):
From everything.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, everything I've ever heard, like, yeah, he's a he's
a prick like he like he's trying to make him
he doesn't give a shit about stuntman. He's trying to
make himself look bad ass, even though stuntmen can make
you look badass without you being a dick like he.
That's their job, right, that's their job to make Their
job is to make you look like they just got
the shit beat out of him, and they.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Know how to do it very well. I can guarantee
that Keanu Reeves uh has never been a dick and
hitting his stunt man because the stuntmaner the ones making
him look like they can do all that, and he
seems like a genuinely nice guy. Everybody says he is.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I've never heard any room or anything out of Hollywood
saying that, oh Keanu Reeves didn't do this, like everything
is like Keanu Reeves is the nicest man on the planet.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah. I agree. It turns out though Steven Sagal is.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Not right if you want the antithesis, like he would
be fighting.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, what if John Wick fought Nico? To say?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
What was the movie A Constantine where he was fighting
demons that would be the movie with uh Keanu Reeves
and Steven Sagal. He would be fighting him in Constantine
because Steven Sagal is apparently even better.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
If it was like on a train or a boat,
he could be like almost like Constantine Dark Territory, which
obviously we have to do, uh those Cigal movies at
one point. Oh, there's so many fun Sagal movies we
have to do in the future. But yeah, so he
gets this again. We get into another plot. Now, Ah,

(28:05):
there's drugs coming in, right, Well then it turns out
to be.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Right, so they think it's drugs.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Four. The funniest thing though, like when they're going to
go stake out the wherever the drugs are coming in,
it's like a meat packing plant. Yeah, so they put
on white jackets like they work at the meat packing plant,
and they all have ear yeah, very wires. Very No,
these people are not cops at all. I love that,

(28:36):
Like Stevens and Galls like white Apron. He was was
the only one that had like some blood splatter on it,
like he was actually like a couple. He actually borted
some stuff. That just cracked me up. Is like, of
course he's the only one that's allowed. But he had
over like he had over top of his leather jacket. Yes,
it just looks so like there's no way like anybody

(28:58):
that was bringing in drugs to this meat packing plant
would take one look at the four or five people
with these white wires hanging out of their ears. Right,
this isn't like this was not the day of earbuds
ear pods where there was no wires you stick them in,
people would see them. They had this giant white wire.

(29:18):
I loved it because it was the nineties, so it
wasn't like it was like an earbud now before, like
the wireless ones, like a straight quick wire you can
kind of hide.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
It was the curly like old like eighties phone cord
wire that they had like post so it's like just
spiraling down their necks their best.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Any anybody would look home like, well, those four people are.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Cops and they seem to walk everywhere together.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Every time.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
They're like, ah, these feds are going to blow up
for us. I'm like, you mean the five guys I'm
from the Chicago PD all huddling together and walking together,
isn't a weird set off?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
I thought that was so ridiculous. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I mean technically it wasn't at the meat packing plant
that they were meeting them. It was adjacent. But the
same time, I feel like they should have had more
people looking at.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
If you're the bad guy bringing in drugs in this case,
it wasn't. You would still scope out the area and
when you see suspicious activity like people with wires there,
you would tell the other bad guys to be like, no,
we can't make.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
The shipment today, especially when you find out like, oh,
it's not drugs, it's like a ship ton of sea four. Yeah,
like that's even a bigger person.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Which is great because he smells it. He just picks
up smells like C four, but he almost acts like
he smells it, like yeah, I know I smell evil.
I smelled this before I know who this. I need
this tie back to my time in Vietnam. It was
like he smelled it like C four, but it says

(30:48):
right on the packaging four. So I could have done that.
Congratulations on using your other fifth sense. Sweet. Yeah, I
think he smells it and it turns over the camera
C four, right, So yeah, I could definitely do that
magic trick. And let's talk about that. Uh, that police.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Not he's not the captain, it's his uh, it's the
other lieutenant or whatever, like the white hair dude, Like
I ordered Brian Denney on Wish and this is the
guy I got, right, Okay, he was like, I just
want to say, like, I'm just like laughing because when
I saw that guy, I was like, Oh, I've seen
this guy and a lot of stuff. I don't know
his name and I'm never going to know his name,

(31:30):
but he's in a lot of weird stuff and usually
cop like oriented.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
He had that look he does.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
He has that look of like he's typecast man, short
hair like height, there's like short, tight hair, all white
like no beard, and he looks but he looks like
a poor man's Brian Denny. And I'm like, ah, I've
seen this guy in a lot of things that I
don't know who he is, but yeah, but at the
same time, I know whenever I see him, I know

(31:56):
it's going to be like a cheesy action movie and
it's great.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Good for him, Good.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
For making that, for that niche in your career. Good
for you, man, I don't know who you are, but
good for you.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Shout out to that guy, shout out and make it
look it up on the internet. But I won't.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Right, yeah, I'm not going to you. I wanted to, man,
I'm not going to and and well, and now that
we're talking about now also his chief was.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
That guy a blubbering idiot or what like? He should
not be in charge of police like. That's also like
a common trope that the police chief, yeah, never understands
there's only one trying to accomplish. He's always gonna yell
at you, so he's gonna take your badge.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
There's only one good police chief, and we all know
that's Commissioner Gordon.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Well, I mean some would argue that, oh, letting a
guy vigilante run around, but I say, yes, Commissioner Gordon.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
So after that, he's on the top of a car
for what three blocks?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
All right, so yeah, but he jumped on top of
his car, and all right, I don't want to ever
run this experiment. But I really think if a guy
is on the top of your car, there's many ways,
and guy didn't try any of them. No, you could have.
I would say, hit the brakes and let him write off. Yeah,
and then they're bad guys, so then they could therefore

(33:17):
run him.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Over, right, Yeah, you control the situation.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
At that point, he stays on top of this car,
he punches that window, grabs that guy by the threat
and they're like, oh shit. Yeah. He's like, I gotta
slow down and pull over because my buddy's being choked
out by the guy on our roof.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Right after he after he shoots through the roof three.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
To four times, misses every time somehow, you know, Uh,
there's probably one hundred movies to do that. They always
miss h they shoot through the roof.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Don't shoot through the roof of your car because you're
just losing the value of your car at that point exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Someone's gotta fix that, right, and you're wasting your bullets
because you might need them, right oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
And then that it's like internet scene, like there's so
many bullets flying like.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
But then the guy just he basically slows down and
just pulls over. Right. He's like, oh yeah, because he's
choking the guy. He's like, what should I do? Pull over? No,
he wouldn't lay him on the brakes. What legit?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Bad guy says, pull over because you're kind of getting choked.
You're still anything, You're not blue, Like when Indiana.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Jones was on top of that tank. Are hanging on
the tank. They tried to grind him into the side
of the rock wall, right, yes, guy was like, oh,
what do we do? Like I don't know, hit the brakes,
drive into the bridge or under.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Uh it was short, bad guys short Italians don't fight back.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Apparently, there you go. That must be the problem. Like, look,
if you were on top of a car and you
had me by the throat, you have zero leverage, right,
I could break that that hold pretty fast and then
telling the driver like no, hit the bricks. Maybe that's
what they didn't even try. He just I think it
was just fighting his arms, like he didn't use him

(34:54):
he wasn't or maybe he just grabbed his arm.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, he was just grabbing, like trying to save himself.
There's no making emotions on a podcast.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
That's cool, we could describe it, but there's no way
in hell him hold on top of that the roof
punches that window, that would happen, and the punch solid
of a grip. Punching that window also is a feat
like like punching through a window with one hand while
you're on top of you like you have no leverage
and you're still punching through the window of a car. Ice.

(35:23):
I mean, maybe that was it.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Maybe that was the whole trope of that black part
was like, oh hey, uh, he's so strong that his
one hand choking someone could possibly kill them, like through
a car window. They're just no, we're messing it. He's
they're just building him up.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Man. But his money like pull over, all right, I
get it, I get it. Don't don't fight.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Back, right, Oh yeah, we got to move this along.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I thought that was kind of ridiculous, but again, it's
a it's a nineties action movie, yeah or late eighties
that all right, we want our hero, right that fat
ass yep, speaking of badass. Then he is then start
asking around town about Savanno. Yeah, I forgot yeah, and

(36:11):
some dudes roll up in the car. This is this
is so fun. Four dudes. Well, he's he's he's walking
down the street, you know, he's asking around town. But
they jump out. The one guy has a gun and
he points at him and he's like, nah, I'm not
gonna use this gun on you. These guys are gonna

(36:34):
beat you with this. And then dude has for oh
the guy, so you're you're gonna You're not gonna use
the gun on the guy that I'm sure your boss
said eliminate. You want to use machetes in a bat?
I forgot, yeah, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
And yet, like all these people have weapons and not
just like all knives, like large weapons like machet's, baseball bats,
things that have some reach, all the things like now.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I mean, it's it's a it's a pretty fun scene. Though.
He does some my Keto stuff and right quickly Shaddy
to chop off the one dude's hand with a gun.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I remember at this point I was watching it with
my kid, and he was like only half interested. He's twelve,
so he wasn't really paying attention.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I'm like, should he be watching this? I don't know.
I probably well. I was about the same age and
I watched it so whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
And I immediately was like I didn't remember it, and
I was like, someone's losing an arm. As soon as
he got to the sheety, I was like, someone's losing
an arm.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
This is gonna be great. Nope, they didn't lose an arm.
I thought for sure an arm was coming off. I
thought he had cut the guy's hand off with the gun.
Yeah maybe or maybe just hit it. Yeah, yeah, because
he hit making him heped the gun.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
He hits someone and I was like, did he hit
it with the back of the machete because but it's.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
A pretty fun fight. Do it again? The akida stuff
where he grass flips you.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Well, the most badass part is obviously he he gets
the MACHETI he disarms the guy with the baseball about whatever,
and there's one guy left and he throws down his
weapon because he's that he's the good guy, Like you
can't be the good guy.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And uh this is also this whole fight scene goes down.
He's wearing nothing but a white tank top. I guess
it's a black tank top. Was Oh no, it's a
black tank and geez. And this is where we get
to see the true physicality of one hundred and six
on a show called Swollen Cinema. We get to see

(38:31):
just how beefcake. Yeah, definitely, it's definitely the he I
mean he looked. Was that the running scene before? Uh no,
he chases? Okay, this car fight scene leads into the
chase scene where he runs like something I've never seen before.

(38:54):
In running he kind of runs like, uh man, it
is the anti swol cinema. Yeah, but he runs, but
when he's running, his one arm is doing like I was,
he's doing loops with his arm. I don't know what
he's doing, Rember. It helps him, like like turn there's
like a plane.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
There's an episode of Friends where Phoebe's running and she's
just running while her arms.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Are fat, Like, oh, it's the way the fun run.
And that's it. He's like his arms are just independent
of his body. It's so wrong. No, I mean it.
It is like it's the most svelt right that Steven
Saga has ever been in any of his movies, because
he continues to swoop as he goes.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yes, he's like, I'm he's been dirty bulking for thirty years.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, so it is. It's the best shape ever see it.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
But it was that was that was again like watching
that after so many years, I'm like, man, it is
surprising to see him be that small. His body is
so weirdly shaped. He still has a giant head, but
his body like if you would to get like how
much is this dude weigh? I'm like, I don't know,
Like one's seventy, Like he has not looked big at
all like I remember, like.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Want seventy, Like, isn't he like thinking thinking back six two?
Have no idea? Or does he claim to be six two?
Maybe that's just that?

Speaker 2 (40:15):
What what are the Stephensa golf facts.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
On how we probably look up? How tall is Steven
sagf right?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
But looking like looking back, I like, I thought, uh, yeah,
this dude was a badass. Like and I'm not saying
he wasn't at some point, but he looked in that movie.
I'm like, man, like, I feel like atty he says
big four? What that that's a stephensa golf fact.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
That has Okay, he does not look he does not
look that big, Like he's standing beside a lot of
people and he's not like dwarfing them.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Like I feel like six to four is a noticeable
height difference, righteah, like because mostly like you got to
think most people in that movie nineteen eighty eight, they're
not they're six foot they're probably super tall for that movie.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
And he doesn't tower people over by like a half.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
A foot, right, No, not at all, Like he couldn't
be six for me wrong, Internet PRETI me wrong, commenters?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, maybe uh Steven Frederick cigal is his full name. Now, uh,
it's actually Sieagel. It is actually he for some reason,
thought it sounds cooler, oh to say cigal there's I'm well.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I mean, I know you're not a big sports guy,
but like there's there are no no offense.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I'm not trying to be dick.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
There are several uh NFL players that have done the
same thing. Those are running back for the Cowboys named
Tony Dorset. In college, he was known as Tony Dorsett.
He got the NFL won two people to pronounce his
name differently, Terrell Owens. He wanted to be called his
people were calling him Taroll Taroll Owens. He wanted to
be like, I'm Terrell. Like it's just it's weird. People

(42:01):
want weird pronunciations.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Think it's better. I don't know, Well, I understand that
that's cool, you know, do your thing. But also he
also went from em FasTIS seagull to segal to also maybe.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
He thought of a seagull seagull that was a whole
one time.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
He says he's Italian descent. He said he is a
Native American descent, and now he's Russian descent and even
lives in Russia. He has dual citizens. He's all over
the place, So I don't know if I could believe
anything on wiki here about him, but he is apparently
a seventh damn Black Battle of aikto that I think also,
I think that's kind of been like he is. I

(42:39):
don't think that necessarily the.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
The his whatever level in that is, but people have
subjected the whole martial art of Akdo as suspect like
I don't think he I definitely think this dude, like
Steven Sagall, knows some solid martial arts move However, compared

(43:03):
to we can get I have a story for.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Compared to like just any mma, right, I don't know
that he would be beating anybody's ass. Well, should we
take a break and come back with finishing up the
movie and all the fun stories about Cigal.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, sure, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Alright. Uh, then we'll take a break and we'll come
right back with more sigall cigar fun. All right, we're
back Swoll Cinema, the show that will make you swol
not really do that yourself, you know, speaking of Swoll,

(43:44):
it's called swol Cinema. We will finish off the rest
of the movie, but of all the actors and movies
and things that make you think Swoll Muscly Steven Segau
did not live up really to any of that. He
was not outside of his overinflated height. Yeah, and as
we know, his overinflated egos where I think the Swoll

(44:09):
part of this would be super but he's uh, yeah,
he's not still alone switching agger the rock. He's just
very kind of he's kind of gangly. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
He looked like he was a person not in control
of all of his limbs.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
And there's running scenes. Those running scenes. Man, they did
him in. It was ro so to wrap this movie
up though again of course it's an action movie. He's
a cop. He gets he gets to the bad guys,
he messes him up. And the bad guy is the.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
The main bag guy is the introduced early in the movie,
like the guy doing the chemical gun. But what got
me about like I will say this to uh whenever,
So you see the beginning of the movie, you see
the ultimate obviously, the ultimate bad guy, the last boss
is present there in the Cambodia scenes where they're torturing

(45:07):
the guys and stuff. But usually in most nineties action films,
there's like the second guy almost like the guy before
the boss is the baddest motherfucker, like really the most
muscular guy, like the guy you faced before get killed,
the final bad guy, and there was no one.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
No one was even close.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Like there was no like I'm sitting there doing the
first like because like I said, I enjoyed this movie
early when I watched as a kid, but I'm watching
it now, gone like, Okay, there's a formula of this shit,
like he he's a well one, he's a MMA guy,
like they're portraying him his MMA guy. And the fight
scenes were kind of.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
I would say mm, because I don't think I think
if anybody would have take him to the ground. Yeah,
it was I don't think it's teams. I think they
could have beat but they decided to stand up right.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
The biggest fight scenes reminded me of like the Fraud
and like the Fraud martial artists guys you see like
doing weird flips, like guys are like, oh, you come
at me, I'm gonna grab your wrist and like grab
your armpit and you're gonna do your own flip, like
like five guys Like that's what those spicy and ger
monuments don't get mad at us, but it was disappointed
at me.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
But I've seen that sometimes even like with the Akita stuff,
with the way they're flipping, I feel like sometimes in
demonstrations it looks amazing, but maybe he is not real.
And I did hear that that when some of the
executives were looking at Steven sagom this movie, he had

(46:39):
a bunch of students come and they were just so
impressed everything was doing that they didn't realize the students
were in on it, so they were really they were
really letting him throw them and things like that. Again,
Joe Rogan said the Sago is a legit martial artist.
I've heard. I've heard that. I don't discount that. I

(47:01):
just think some of the stuff that you see like
in this movie, I don't know, yeah, just yeah, I
don't know. I've heard with that statements.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
It feels like I've heard it's Hollywood martial arts where
certain MMA fighters have gotten like advice or something from
Steven Sagall and claimed like, no, he showed me this
that So I do think he does have spider uh
well yeah, his uh if you've watched and Silva hit
like he like, well, that was the thing where, uh,

(47:33):
Anderson Silva if you watch them at all in UFC
had a just amazing crazy front kick knockout a V
tour bell for it, like it's been almost ten years
probably at this point, but supposedly like in the crowd,
like someone was like their crowd's going crazy because it
was it was a crazy flash knockout, amazing. And someone
looks over and Steven Sagall like makes eye contact with

(47:56):
him and just like points him over like and just
starts pointing at himself like a mouthing like that was me,
Like like he taught Anderson Silva and.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
But that keo doesn't have like it's not a kicking.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Supposedly though he definitely was taking credit for it, though.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I could be wrong on that, but none of the moves,
which about the law. He was using a lot of keto,
there was no kicking. Right. Yeah, now I've heard that story, uh,
and I heard it related as in, uh, Stephen Siga said, yeah,
I taught him that, and Anderson Anderson Silva was like,
oh yeah, almost like leaning into the joke, right, He's like,

(48:35):
oh yeah, he totally taught me that, just kind of
going with when he you know, it's kind of funny
that Stephen's sig would say that. So I don't know
if it's true or not. I could just kind of
see Anderson Silva like, oh, oh sure he showed me
that move.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, because I mean that dude was one of the
best may fighters of all time. He he may or
may not have picked that up Stephen, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
May or may not. I already might have learned that
somewhere else. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, but yeah, so we get you get to the
ending of above the Law, and it's again he makes
reference to it.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Like I said, he makes reference to.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
It like, oh, the five biggest assassins in the CIA
on Chicago, and it must be for a reason. And
he gets so and he gets caught, He gets it,
gets caught. They inject him with the truth serum. He's
all loopy and then just like immensely flashes boom out
of the out of the true serum.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, he's so, he's so strong and amazing that he
was able to just he faked him out. He looked
like he was under and he faked him out. But
he was also I'm assuming he was able with sure
real power, Yeah, to tell that he he ked to
the true Truth serum right out of his blood vessels.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Right, if you look closely, he probably shot it right
back out of the same hole that the needle just
forced it.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
He forced it. Yeah, so I don't get that in
And the bad guy kept saying, yeah, that's it, fight it,
fight it, And he did weirdly fought it for like
thirty seconds. Oh, they had like like one of those
plastic zipped zip It's actually like pretty brutal scene. Now
in that scene, uh, the bad guys like punching Cigal. Yeah,

(50:15):
in the movie he broke Segall's nose really, so Cigal
uh that whole night, Uh went and iced it. He
stayed up all night so we can ic it so
he wouldn't have black eyes for the scene the next day.
But yeah, this guy, so I don't were they getting
into it forced the blood out of his eyes, right,

(50:36):
He's like, he's I got train myse over this all
my life. Well that makes me think of a funny
story that when we're wrapping it up, I'll I'll tell
you what he thought is a keto keeps him from
ever He can't be choked out because of his akito.
Hell yeah, that's the story I love to tell you.
But yeah, I thought that was a fun fact. Again
where there that they were going for it? Uh so

(50:57):
realistic that the actor hit broke his nose broke.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
And yeah, and that's what I was saying about, like
not having like a big, like muscular like goon before
the final guy was No one was very intimidating at all.
Like all the other guys looked like they all looked
like account executives as a large advertising firm.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
The biggest dude, who wasn't that red guy. Yes, he
didn't even have a line. I'll think there was a shot.
Oh no, I'm thinking about the dude. After the they
all got out of the car with the machetes and
the bats and they kicked their asses and he's walking away.
He sees he chases this guy down. We got the
running scene. He chases one dude down and he kicks

(51:42):
his button. This guy gives up the info. Yeah it's
Savanah blah blah blah. Yeah, but there's dudes just hanging
out in the corner. There's one really big, chunky dude.
He's like, hey, man, oh that's I know that guy.
That's my buddy. Oh yeah, yeah. He struts up, uh like,
hey man, I'm not in the mood, and the guys
like fuck your mood. Skull like just hits them in

(52:05):
the gut. Oh yeah, drop the drops them as he
walks by the rest of his two buddies. Yeah. The
other guys are like, hey man, what it is? Cool? Like,
we're not We're not fighting you at all. Was the
What it is seemed like so far ahead of its time.
What it is is, keep on moving, We're not fighting it.

(52:27):
I thought that was hilarious. In fact, Uh, we're gonna
do something called, uh the shot of the week shot
the week shot the episode. Uh, we're talking shot movie shot,
and we're talking shot sponsored by Pine Creek Spirits. Today.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
It's gonna be the whiskey shot. Oh boy, I'll pour
you like small One. Was a lot of beers being had.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
This episode that we're gonna do a shot pine Creek Spirits.
So can go through the shot first, or we don't
do the shot first? We should do the shot first?
All right? Cool cheers, all right, I already said it
my shot. My favorite shot of this movie was really

(53:18):
when that guy walked up, Hey, that's my buddy. He
was like, Hey, why you fucking with my buddy? Hey man,
I'm not in the mood. Fuck your mood, and he
drops him. It was just so funny, and I just
love everything about that scene cracked me up in this
movie that was so trying to be dead serious, right,

(53:40):
I just thought it.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
It was wonderful, slightly different my favorite like it was.
I didn't know it was going to be my favorite
shot because it's not related to literally anything in the movie.
It was just I heard the voice and I went,
holy shit it so maybe you didn't realize what happened.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
There's a scene where they're they're chasing down.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
The C four and he gets like the CIA guy
like tricks the CIA guy stiff arms him into take
him to the evidence locker of the Chicago PD to
sign up for something, which is weird because.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I'm like, you could have just got a regular copy
of this, But anyway, he gets the CIA guy like.
They go into the evidence locker and the guy start
in that runs the evidence locker starts talking and I go,
holy shit, this is the guy from Home Alone on
the movie tape that shoots everybody up. I'm gonna give

(54:41):
you the count of ten to get Yard, No good dirty.
He was the old guy after like it was whatever's
Whatever's angels, whatever Hell's angels, or like he was the
guy like as soon anal was, he was the guy
that does a third the filthy Animal. Like you go
back and look at it and you hear that voice
and you're like, holy shit, it's him, and you look up.

(55:01):
I looked up and it's like, yeah, it's definitely him.
It's the old guy, white hair, half fault.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Like it was.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
It brought back some fucking fun, Like.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I didn't even pick up on that man.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
It was just it was my most enjoyable shot of
the day because unfortunately, as much as I loved this
movie as a kid, it was disappointing. Like and maybe
it was just uh maybe it was just like today's movies,
like over the top explosions all that stuff. But like
and and as much as I remember how much back

(55:33):
in the day, I loved Steven Segall like I knew
I knew back in the day, like, oh I was
a kid, you don't fuck with Stevenagall because he's a
badass dude in this movie, Like we talked about like
a little bit offline. It was like it was kind
of slow, kind of plodding, Like he didn't really show
as much mortial arts as we wanted him to, like
expecting a lot more of that.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Roger Ebert from the Fame Ebert and Ciscool Show, he
said this movie has fifty percent more plot than it needs,
and I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
So funny how much times are they like, here's no plot.
It was this simple, you know, basic beat them up,
roughly up, and.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
It had way more plot. But be in the first
of all movie. And I remember I watched this back
in the day. I actually thought I owned it on
a VHS. It's actually hard to kill. I have a VHS.
But I remember digging this movie because I loved the
fighting style he made it seem the way he would
redirect and flip people and then elbow crushing noses. I know,

(56:38):
I started started to like emulate that because I, you know,
took martial arts when I was younger. But trying to
think about those movies, especially that where he would just
there's a lot of people he was just like it
was like it was a clothesline. Yeah, he like he
would parry a punch right into a clothes line, like

(57:00):
that's awesome, and he does it so much like that
must be the main move, right. It's all a cute
gud but it's super cool. I just remember trying to
practice that with my friends. It's like, yeah, so watching
this movie now later in life, Uh yeah, it didn't

(57:20):
hit me as much as it did when I was younger,
but I think it was still. I don't know. It
was the action. See, the action sequences were good, the
fight sequences were good, and uh again I agree with
Roger Ebert. There was too much plot. I just needed
more fight. Yeah, it did.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
There was only like two maybe three fight scenes it was.
There was the fight scene in the bar, the fight
scene in the bodega, which oh the bodega.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Won we forgot to talk about. But that's kind of
cool though.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
But going back there to bodega, I felt like it
was weird how his car like at one point, like
the guys that he's chasing the CIA. They realize he's
onto him, so they take their five, five of their
assassins and start shooting up his car with bullets that
were way bigger than could be shooting shot out of
those guns like the bullets told they were leaving in

(58:10):
that car were immense.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
But dude, he wasn't in the car, but yeah, he
so somehow he picks himself over. He's and yeah, slipped out.
But but one guy goes to change the clip and
he comes like, oh he's over, he's behind this car.
It comes out with one gun, mind you five guys
with other guns. He points his gun at one Dude's like,

(58:32):
everybody drop your guns and I'm going to kill this dude.
Which where these are the bad guys. Our job is
to smoke this fool. They should have been like, sorry,
sorry Steve, but.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
If I don't if Steve gets killed, my day's not ruined.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
They would like, but he convinced them all to put
their guns, but first put them down. But first, and
then one guy after they put their guns down. Then
one dude's like, I don't think you take us all.
It starts walking a little late for that. Yeah, when
you had the gun, you probably could have ended the scenario.

(59:10):
It just seemed that was pretty ridiculous too. But that's
what cracking up was like. It's not every one of
those bad guys were changing their clip at the same
time in that scene. That was who cracked up.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Was he he disarms all of them miraculously as he does,
then leads them into a boat. Ah's one guy right, yeah,
oh yeah that was and everybody, yeah, you can't take
us off boom dead.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
There was a badass. It was actually pretty fun. But
as far as the movie goes, is the badass bad
ass y one guy step two uh steps.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
The most physically unintimidating guy of the group.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
You can't take us so just right and hard right,
just boom done. And there's people like watching this from
their windowsills not calling the cops. Mind you just watch him. Yeah,
take him in the bodega. But that was the bodega
owner was like, no, hey, no, no, this is no
free this in here, man. But this is why I

(01:00:12):
thought I'm watching this going like the only reason it's
acceptable that people would accept that, like, oh, he just
took five guys with uh with machine guns off the
street into a bodega and there we all know this, bro,
data is going to get destroyed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Yeah, like we all know this going in there, like okay, uh.
He could have just went like Neil that like putting
made them kneel like on the curb and said, hey,
hey guy, call the cops.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
No, he doesn't do that. Yeah, why would he take him?
I don't understand now the way because waited it. Now
I'm confused, right, because he takes them because there's going
to be so much more carnage, Like there's going to
be there's gonna be glass bron be taken over.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
And the only reason in nineteen would you say, eighty
eighty came out eight and nineteen eighty eight, the only
reason America was super happy about this because the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Owner of the bodega was wearing a turban. Ah, why
is there guy? Why did the bodega owner own a
like have a turban on?

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
It's because they're like, how do we destroy this bodega
with everybody being okay with it? It's because he's gonna
be here him, and it just made me lie like
I'm like, this is so great, this is so great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
But the bodega owner was correct, No, don't don't bring
in here. Oh he was. He was so correct and
knowing what was steven immediately it happened and even like
he so he it was a pretty good fight. See,
but for some reason to get out of the bodega,
he checkled one guy through the windows He's still perfectly there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
You guys gonna say somehow he like, if you're familiar
with professional wrestling, he speared a guy put his shoulder
in this guy's gut, but still somehow lands like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
On his feet and there's like a few frames. If
you watch it, uh in slow mo, you can see
that it's not Steven Sagall. It's a stompman. Just in
case Stephen tries to say he did that scene. Suck
at Stephen, come out. I got a few fun facts
I want to throw out, but before we get there,
just kind of curious. So do we wrap up the

(01:02:15):
movie like we did? We wrap it up or we
wrapped it up good enough. Yeah, he beats he won.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
He beats the main guy who is like a plastic
looking CIA guy who had no chance.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
He breaks his elbow kills him. Yeah. I want to
ask you though about the one moment where the bad guy,
uh Steven sagal He apparently is so strong he could
just push the true serum out of his blood and
he's ready to fight. And the bad guy gets a
knife and he does his wild, big giant arcs with

(01:02:44):
a knife. No, like I know, is he trying to
scare him away like you're trying to scare a bear
away where you make yourself bigger. But it was just
like like there was I didn't notice that. There was
a couple of scenes where it's like you don't look
like a ci A operative that can actually fight with
a knife. It was really weird. It was Yeah, it
was pretty rough. It was, yeah, it was. It was

(01:03:04):
this couple of those things where I'm like, this guy's
this guy is an a keto master, but he only
tackles there takes care of people that straight arm attack him,
like yes, yes, and there's they don't have elbows. They
just come out him like straight arming it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
And it was yeah, it was. That was that final
scene is pretty weird, like that he.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Swung that knife. Yeah, you're right, like, hey, well what
if this guy has gotten no the master can only
defend weird crazy swinging of the knife to defend people
with four joints. This is a c I A agent
that's shooting uh serum and people to get well true serum.

(01:03:43):
He would definitely have a gun. He would just pull
it out. Yeah you think you're done, but it doesn't.
He wanted to make you make a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I don't I don't know if if they thought, oh
that was part of the thing was because I know
he did steal a gun off the one guy I
shot gun to blow a couple of the other guys away.
They were like, no, want to see him suffer, so
put your guns, Like, put your guns down because I
want to see him suffer.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
That was the same thing with them with the when
they rolled up the car to fight him, he had
a gun on him. He's like, I'm not gonna use
his gun on you. These guys are gonna these guys
are gonna destroy you. Like no, Like, I'm pretty sure
your boss said, take care of him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I don't know if you know, but there's no honor
in killing some of the gun if you're a bad guy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
That's so true, right, You put that kind of side
like a hand to hand combat with you. It's the
only honor as a bad guy. Gotta gotta kill you
them punches so overall movie Wise, and not even interjecting
any of the craziness that is Steven saga, Well, I

(01:04:42):
have a couple of things I'd like to throw out
to Oh yeah, but movie wise, enjoyment, uh, martial arts
swowness that takes a hit, right, Yeah, it takes a
bit of a hit because he's not that swollen. Out
of those categories, where would you rate this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
You know, like if you would have asked me before
I watched it, from my impression of what I was expecting,
I would have said like eight, because I was before you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Watch remembering it for your Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
From when I was a kid, I was super excited.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Uh, Like we we joked about like like let's talk
about to go offwards everything, but and I was, but
I was super excited to watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
But man, it was not what I remembered. It was disappointing.
I want to say five, Like, yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Was there with you, man, That's why I texted you.
I watched it Saturday night and I thought again, I
thought I had it on DHS. I had to rent it.
And after I watched it, I text him like, hey,
I'm gonna watch Hard to Kill just in case we
need something out backup movie because it was boring. Then
you replied back, bullshit, movies are never boring or something

(01:05:53):
like that. And then I watched it. But I feel
like you're one hundred percent right. It just when I
was younger was this. It was like he was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
The baddest motherfucker on the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
But rewatching it, I'm like, it's not it's really not
that good, or at least it doesn't hold up to
action movies that have.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Followed right right hundred percent on that. Like, uh, I
think that's part of it, where every like things are
a little more over the top now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
So I would go, I'm right there with you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Five Yeah, like I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
I didn't, So what rotten tomatoes that I think? Uh,
critics and fans or it's kind of like a fifty
to fifty. Yeah I didn't. I didn't hate watching it again,
but it was like I thought it would. I was
expecting just more, like especially for a nineties because we
all remember the nineties as like over the top. Like
it's way more than you expect. I think, Yeah, this

(01:06:47):
is kind of movie like just watch the fight scenes
what you want to watch because it's yep, it's kind
of dog shit. Yeah, I mean, and and you'll find
I guess. I mean if you talk about come and
is a story really that compelling? No?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
No, you Schwarzenegger killing people blowing sh up? Yeah, it
was like some good times so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Right Yeah, So yeah, so I guess we're like at
a five five out of ten. You're either a fan.
I feel at this point you're either a fantas of
goall you're not a fan, uh, but you're a fan
of these kind of movies. Like some of the fight
scenes are pretty cool, pretty fun, pretty cruel cool guys. Nos, Yeah,
they broke pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah, you're not gonna be if you if you're a
big nineties fan, you're like, you're not gonna hate it.
It's gonna be exactly what you should expect.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Yeah, Like you know, like it's not like I watched
it and I was like I enjoyed watching it for
the second time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Wasn't It wasn't something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
I was like, I've ret every hour and thirty minutes
of that. So yeah, if you're if you're thinking about it,
you fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Watch it again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Man, revisit that childhood Memory's fucking fun.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah. So one of my favorite, uh story I've heard
about Segal. I'm sure you've heard this, but I just
want to. I'm gonna tell it anyway I heard. I
heard so many different because there's so many stories, I've
heard it a lot of different ways. So this is
on the set of a movie. I forget which movie

(01:08:18):
it was, but anyway, Uh, Jean LeBell, uh, who's famous
for being Judo Gene stunt coordinator stunt man. But you
know also Judah was in Ronda Rousey's coorm Uh. But
whatever movie they were making, Jean LeBell was the stunt coordinator.

(01:08:38):
And there was a conversation, uh, probably instigated by Steven
where he was like, because of my keto, I can't
I cannot be choked out. And we're talking uh he
and Jean Lebel, he's a Juda master. He's like, oh, okay,
fall boss. Like no. The story has a couple of

(01:09:04):
little different takes here, but basically she's like, okay, so
he uh uh put Steven in a choke hold and
uh proceeded to choke him out, and then Steven shipped
his pants. That's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
I mean, I'm not saying something could jerk me out,
but that's even funny. And his pants, that's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
The story slightly changed a little bit where uh uh
you know, Steven Saga said he he can escape from
any choke hold, and Jean Label is like, all right again,
let's do it again, and did your pants still it
still ends the story no matter how you tell. It
ends with shipp in his pants, but he went to

(01:09:53):
put a choke hold on Cigal and it Sagal hit
him in the bass. Uh. Some of the stories say
like his his instinct is ket keto instincts hit him
and Gene was like okay. So they're like okay, well, no,
sorry about that. Sorry, my instincts kicked in. So then

(01:10:16):
again Jane set in a choke hold again. The ending
result was these ship his pants. Uh now Uh. Looking
at a clip from Joe Rokan, He's like, look, man,
I know Gene and he told me the story and
it's one hundred percent true in my opinion, because I
know Gene, I know how you tell stories. But Gene

(01:10:37):
would not admit it in an interview like for some
magazine or whatever. He's like, he wouldn't just say straight up.
But but you know, Joe Rogan was like, yeah, no,
I know, Genie told me the story and yeah, I
feel like listening to a couple of clips and things
I read, like now it sounds like Jeane Labell choked

(01:10:58):
him out. Now that sky he's a monster. Jarabelle's hands
would cover your face and he was a Judah master.
Oh and even Randa Rousey had a quote somewhere in
a book where she was like talking about like I
read that somewhere. No, it really happened. And if in
a book, if and she will she will fight him

(01:11:22):
or something, She's like, no, it happened. If he and
if Steven Saga talks any ship about Jean Lebel, I
would choke him out. I don't think she probably could.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
That's the fight I want to see. I want to
see Steven.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
I want to see Stephen and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Five years ago maybe well, I think Rousey came out. Okay,
Steven sagaal circa two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Current movies that he's making. He doesn't even get out
of a chair. He acts and fights from a chair.
He's so big. He got again, he got so swollen.
He's huge, he's bulking. I don't know if he's dirty.
He's dirty dirty.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I started before we settled on above the law deadlift
like a big mac. That's it, he's he's he's David Hassel.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah, but that's a good video. She looked that up.
David was a big mac or a whopper ever, but uh,
but it's funny. Look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Yeah, yeah, like but like just because the inherent like
and no offense to Ronda Ralsey. It's just the inherent
strength difference. Like, but I was like stevens gone his
prime versus you know what, if you would say Ronda
Rawsey in our prime, I'm still might bet Ronda Ralsey
like versus Steven stage his prime, because I don't know
if his ship's legit. At least I know Ronda Rawsey

(01:13:01):
won a silver medal or whatever in judo and the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah, so yeah, I don't know. I mean, I would
love to see the fight. I don't think steven Sagall's
heart would uh be able to take if they fall.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Oh you take like Steven versus Ronder Rowsey. Now I'm
I'm betting Ronda Rousey on plus twenty five hundred whatever
the hell it is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Holy shit, there's no way he's gonna make it. And
what is up? All right, I'm sorry. There's a lot
of Cigall movies we're gonna get to, but we're gonna
do it now because you're got you already. If you're listening,
if you're listening to this show and you like these
kind of movies, you already noticed that his hairline. Like
in this movie, it looks greatest natural. Yes, you're losing

(01:13:44):
your hair lit, but you gotta slick back.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
But even but even in that movie, it doesn't look amazing, like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
It's nobody looks real. It looks real. Then later movies,
now it's all died in oh oh, towards the later Yeah,
it's like weirdly jet black down.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
He's not even like it's black, it's it's There's a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Funny story from uh Tom Arnold who was married to
Rozann for a while, where they were on a set
of a movie. Uh. The scene was taking place on
a houseboat, and the director was like, okay, man, we
wanna we want to rehearse. Stephen goll Is like, yeah,
I don't rehearse, and so he's and he's apparently he

(01:14:31):
walked over to a door. I know it's part of
the prop whatever, but he walked out of the door,
opened it and proceed to walk because they were like
a houseboat, so he proceeded to walk out. And Tom
Arnold and said, on this you can find on YouTube.
It's like they everybody was. They did nothing. They were paralyzed.
They just watched what she Sugall was doing, and uh

(01:14:53):
open the door and proceed to walk out and just
drop in the water. And apparently he could swim, so
they haul him out. Whoa, I can a keto a master,
but I can't dog paddle. Come on, man, all the
the magic Marker's hair was starting like the die was
leading out. And when you look at some of these movies,

(01:15:15):
like dude, it's evident that you were spraying black spray paint,
just lack o natural. Like he looked cool in this
movie with that hair. Even though it was like he was,
you know, a little the hairline was going, he still
look kind of cool. He looked he looked real. I
need to look up the movie that Tom Arnold and

(01:15:35):
seven were in together, because, let's be honest, I would
say it is probably a directive video when Tom Arnold
and Swarzenegger were in a movie together. That's pretty good, true,
lies true.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
I enjoyed that movie amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Is that on a slate for Sweat Cinema Discuss? Hell, yeah,
I love that movie. That's that's a movie again, Jamie
Jamie Lee Curtis, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
But yeah, like, yeah, that's that got to be on
a Slate because that's another movie I enjoyed way more
than watching steven Sagall in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
What's True Lies in the two thousands. I got another
fun fact for you. I don't know if you heard
this one, but uh, I got I got this from
the again the internet, the interwew the internet is from
an article. Forget where the article was, but you know whatever,
it's on the Internet. So they were on the set

(01:16:33):
of making a movie. This executive walked into Cigal's trailer.
It's in Hollywood, and Uh, Cigal was like crying and
tearing up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
And I don't know why, it's just that saying is fun.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
And the guys say, hey, man, what's up. He's like, oh,
I'm just reading the script. Oh I think I've heard this.
It's the most incredible script I've ever read. And the
executive is like, whoa, that's fantastic. Who wrote it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Was like, yeah, I did, I've heard the same story.
Uh did you come across the Saturday Live?

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
No? Oh my god. No they made fun of this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
No, no, no, not this and said they have It's
it's pretty much common knowledge that steven Sgall is the
worst off all time. Guest on Saturday Live and one
of the things I just I read was, I think
this was a bullshit when you say that with this
this director asking him who he said this was something

(01:17:41):
that apparently occurred. Also on Saturday Live was I think
this is something he tried to perpetuate, as like this
fact where he was trying to get this fucking movie made.
I have no idea what script it was, because we
all know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
It was Steven Skall.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
At some point, if he had even a half decent script,
he was a big enough star that he could have
got this made. But I heard on Sunday Live also
that like Rob Schneider walked out of somewhere and Steven
Siagall is sitting there going like just contemplating on something,
and Rob's like, oh hey, man, hey.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Steve, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Like during the week of the which they all can
say was like a week of hell dealing with Steven Sagall,
He's like, oh hey, Steven, what's going on? He's like,
I just I just read the best movie script ever made.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Call that's awesome? Who wrote it? I did like that?
So now that the story also maybe it was right,
So this is multip My god, I love.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
This multiple times that this has happened, but you have
the whole Like if you go go deep dive, you
don't even have to deep dive.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
You've watched one video on YouTube, they'll give you one
hundred more talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
In all of you and so the one the only
one I wanted to make sure, like because again, like dude,
I thought this guy was the fucking bomb when I
was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Again watching a clip from Joe Rogan's like, look, he's
a legitimate martial artist, so could I could I take him?
Could you take him? I don't know. Maybe maybe he's
maybe now I want to say that, Look, that's what
I want to I'm always so curious about that. Like, yeah,

(01:19:24):
and Above the Law cegaul he was a really badass,
but okay, so he was training a couple of celebrity stars. Again,
uh when he made Above the Law, his Akita studio
in California was failing hard. So when this movie came out,

(01:19:46):
his enrollment went up. He was megas so much money.
But he also was training some stars. So there's a
story where he was training Sean Connery.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Ako like as a legit suspect like for some for
some people, is a suspect, Marshall, I don't know. I
haven't looked into it that hard, but that's just the thing.
Ever was like, a kita is pretty suspect.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
It's pretty suspect. But in this case, uh, you know,
I saw an interview on YouTube where and I read
a couple of things. But Sean Connery is talking about like, yeah,
it was training with Steven and I got I've got
a little cocker and but stee he broke his wrist again.

(01:20:28):
It points back to Segau being a dick, right yeah,
Like but uh again, is a kita legit? Everybody seems
to point to it that it is. It's just the
man who wants to be a famous actor. Right where
am I going with this? Oh? But now he's also

(01:20:49):
four hundred pounds, he's not falling. Was disciplined at all?
If I was disciplined, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, because now he's a Russian citizen like
dual citizens, and that the best part was recently watching
the video and they're like, oh yeah, like Steven Sagall
is uh he's in Russian now and and whoever they
were talking because they were kind of like they're kind
of ripping on a little bit and they're like, oh,
like Steven Scolls and Russia has dual citizen and they're

(01:21:18):
like and he was like I think I was the
host or whatever? Was like whoa what so like did
he do that voluntarily or was that like forced upon him?

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Like like this is where was America like twenty three
and me and it was like I got Russian, I'm Russian.
This guy has been every nationality And if you watch
some of the go go on YouTube washing the cliffs,
he starts really changing his accent to whatever, ah, whatever nationality, whatever,

(01:21:54):
whatever he thinks he is. I won't go deeper right now,
but just watch it. You'll know the hilariosity that I'm saying,
such Tom Segura, Steven Sagal, you'll get the best club
comedy you'll get.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Like he because he makes fun of He rips on
pretty hard. It's it's great now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
I love on. If you go on im dB, you
find like a ton of things that uh people are
riffing on on this one. I thought it was funny
because at first it maybe want to watch be very mindful,
watch the movie. Look in every character because I am
dB says that John c Riley from step brothers, right

(01:22:37):
is in this apparently it's it's it's a hack. Really
definitely missed him. Somebody got that on IMDb and they
never changed it, but he was not in it. He
wasn't even an actor in eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Let's say I saw the Michael Rooker thing which caught
my attention, and then when you said I was like, oh, yeah,
I did remember that one, Like oh shit, there it
is that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
I saw this on imdbing like, oh where is he?
I can't find him. It's a complete it's allbs because
I guess apparently you can edit the IMDb page and
it's like the Wikipedia of I liked this movie though
from a nostalgia point of view, because that was the

(01:23:25):
time period where this movie was like awesome eighty eight
action movies. Karate. I was into martial arts. I was
taking martial arts, and I thought this was badass. Looking
back on the movie now years later, like it wasn't
that great of a movie, but some of the fight
scenes were fucking awesome. So for that, I will say,

(01:23:47):
I don't know. Yeah, if you're into cigal or martial arts,
there's some scenes you will freaking love. Yeah, just just
forget you're watching the movie. The movie is not that good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
I was honestly, I watched it on Amazon Prime whatever
for the three dollars rental whatever it was, and it
was it was actually fun to start watching it and realize, like,
oh shit, the the the HD translated. I was surprised because,
like I'm expecting like nineteen nineties quality vhs, and it

(01:24:23):
was fun to watch it in like high depth.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
It was probably filming on thirty five millimeters right back,
so they were able to get uh, they were able
to transfer to this HD right That was the one
of the most fun parts of like visually of watching
it was like holy shit, like this is it's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
This is fun. Like the quality of it was actually
really fun.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Well, my final thoughts would be like, never run like
Nico from this movie. Yeah, do you know that. Don't
do circles with your arms where you're around pack on
Its actually inefficient if you're trying to be like streamline
pack ons mass firsts, live weights, do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Some dirty bulk then maybe run.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
And yeah, but that's that's that's my final thoughts. Yeah,
I'm not gonna have much more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Like I I didn't like I said this whole podcast
is just having some fun like watching these movies that
I may or may not have seen back in the
day and having a good time with it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Uh so, so what do we do next? Are we
doing that? That's a great question. What is the next movie?
Are we doing? I have a great story. I feel
like you know what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
We we talked about a little bit, like kind of
threw some ideas around and I was thinking, uh, actually,
I have, well one, I have a great story about
John Claude and Steven Seagal.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
I love all all that. And I mentioned I mentioned
the movie and I haven't watched it forever, and I
did again. I did enjoy it when it came out?
Was Time Cop? Are you up for Time Cop? For man?
That's like what a leap from above the law to
Time Cop? Yes, I saw Time Cop in the theaters.

(01:26:15):
Oh ship, And I still don't know if I understand what.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
So much about that move like about like touch each
other all the things like, but still like don't don't
end up a spot on the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Go ahead, watch Time Cop. We're gonna talk about next time.
He Wow, that's not what I expected. What you do?

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
What do you think where'd you think I was gonna go,
because we'll do that episode through Kickboxer. Okay, all right,
well I was gonna say, we do have blood.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
Sport, one of my favorite movies ever. Blood Sport is
still the best. Uh, but Time Cop is a great
move into hilariosity.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
If we do blood Sport, then we gotta do Bloodsport
plus than with the remake.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Which is the way not to remake the You mean
the one where Van dam is now. Oh yeah, he's
still in it, but it's is it a remakers like
twenty years later? Is he he's blind in that one? Right?
Like his character's blind? Yeah, but is he blind? He's
pulling some bs in the jail cell. I don't know.

(01:27:24):
All Right, it doesn't matter because next time we're doing
Time Cop. Wow. You never expected that swollen cinema

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