Ep 56 - Speed - Swole Cinema

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
We're hot Hot, I'm hot, You're cold. What's up everybody?
Hot shot dude?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
What's the podcast you've been dying to listen to?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
That would be Swollen Cinema. We're back and we're bad
this if you if you haven't guessed, uh, we are
going to talk about speed this week. We're back. We're
Speed and little Keanu Reeves little Sandra Bullock, which is
never a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I mean, that's kind of funny Little Keanu Reeves. It
sounds so adorable.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well compared to some of the other like nineties action heroes,
he has a little a little adorable. He's I mean,
I think he had some scenes where his arms look
pretty big, like he's looks.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
He definitely looked fit. They hit that T shirt on
when he the glam muscles were oh yeah, he was
definitely just bicep curls and some push outs. But when
he had the T shirt on and like the flat jacket, yeah,
oh yeah, he was looking really badass.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah yeah. Oh so yeah, I'm Ryan, I'm Mark, and
we're here. We're back. We're Ryan, Little Mark, little little Ryan. Yeah.
But yeah, like so we're talking about speed and I
was I kind of rushed it in the last episode
because I didn't have one picked because I'm an idiot.

(01:26):
So I scrolled through my phone quick and I went, yeah,
how about Speed. That's that's I remember that one. I'm
watching in a lot of time. It wasn't on too me, No, yeah,
I was that guy. I watch it on Max. I
watched it on Amazon. But luckily I had a digital
credit because I let them deliver a package whenever they
wanted to, so it worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I paid eighty nine cents. Yeah, hot tip. Yeah, take
that digital credit. You know this movie also people call it.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Die hard on a bus, right, Yeah, I've heard that,
but it's but I was watching. I was like, through
the first I don't know, it was a solid, like
what one hundred and ten minutes, not a crazy long one,
and I was like, for the first like ninety to
one hundred minutes, I was like, this movie holds up
really well. It does.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
And one of my biggest complaints is the opening title
sequence where there's like a camera oh oh, that's probably
all CG just slowly coming down through an elevator shaft.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, and they're bringing.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Up the actors' names, director's names on this weird angle
because if they're trying to match the angle of like
cross beams as the camera comes down the elevator shaft, but.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's hard to read. It just looks like shit. Right.
I was sitting there watching that and I actually went
like because I remember like probably one of the best
openings we had. I think it was like was a
Batman where they were like traveling through the logos, right yeah,
And I was like, I feel like they were trying
to do that, but they did it poorly. Like this
is just like it's what the you don't know what
it is.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
And I know you can say, oh, Mark, just because
you're graphic designer and like to make movies, you're judging
too hard.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Low.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Even my wife in the beginning, she's like she was like, fuck,
this title sucks. Yeah, like yeah it does.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's not draw Yeah, it took and it took forever.
It took like a minute or so, and its like.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It was not And I was like, oh, I was like,
oh wait, do you think the opening sequence is going
to take place in an elevator?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Right? That was my best guess is like it looks
like I beams. I'm like, but I still sure I
forgot like I know.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, well no, I think when I was watching, I
was like, I forgot the opening. I hate it, Like
oh right, right right. It opens with an elevator thing.
That's why we're doing this long basically just the elevator
going down, but we're seeing it from like an outside perspective. Yeah,
down the show if you amount a camera on the
elevator itself and just see the inner workings.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, yeah, sucked.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
But in contrast, we should have had like Counta Reeves
like working out.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Put what and o what a different contrast of the
opening where the introduction of Jeff Daniels and Keanu Reeves
over the top opening for them. They come flying over
hill in a city and a tourus.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
They ramp over like a hump in the street for
no reason, but almost like like yeah, for a second,
you're like, man, wait, did I click the wrong movie?
Are we watching like a naked gun movie? Or like
even the other guys. Yeah, it was completely insane.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I was howling. I was like they just come like
all these other cars are coming over this hill and
these two just come blitzing. Oh, like I'd like so
fast and so high that like that car is dead
like that car wasn't going.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah right, well, I guess it's like, what do you
call that a prelude to some of the stunts. We're
gonna get better, get over the top and very much.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Again, it's always like whenever you see a car John,
especially older movies where they can't Yeah, you see, you
had to take things out when those cars hit the bottom.
There's hubcaps, piece of the car. You know, that car
is done.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah. Uh, this car had that same thing.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
It hit that ground. You're like, that car is not moving. Yeah,
there's two front two wheels. The front two wheels is
bottomed out there. I still had to snap. Yeah, that
was it was. It was so fucked again. You think
the chief would be like, what the fuck? Dudes can't
be driving like that. You know, there's there's civilians, pedestrians,
other cars.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
You don't understand, chief. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
And then yeah, Keanu gets out. And also Jeff Daniel
dumb and dumber, and in Jeff Daniel's plays like He's
but also in the movie He's Harry, which he was
also Harry and dumb and dumber.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Right, yeah, you know it's Lloyd Christmas and Harry done.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, but he plays. He just plays like two Keanu
as you know their full name. I think you've seen
that movie quite ace or twice. If it was a
comedy action movie, I'd already be heard of podcast. But yeah,
the fact that, uh, he plays such a great like
he's a he's a good classic actor, but he plays

(06:03):
such a great like straight man to the young brash
Keanu Reeves character that like, was this his first big
action role?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think yeah, I think so. Yeah, so it was
kind of an introduction to this young brash well no
point no point break was probably first, was it? I
bet I think this was like ninety seven, This was
ninety four? Oh speed was ninety four? All right, my bad,
And maybe this was the introduction. No, you keep you
keep vamping. I'll look up on the IMDb. But either way, Yeah, like,

(06:31):
like Jeff Daners is such a great actor. I mean
he's known for like some of this comedy stuff and everything,
but he's such a great overall actor, and he was
such a great partner to pair with new new guy
you know that's going to play the crazy Lameel Gibson
think you said guy hard like he plays the MRTA
to the Yeah, it really was a good pairing. They

(06:52):
worked really well together. Yeah uh but yeah, so they
get that they have that crazy, weird opening car scene
and which it was so good. I mean I did
see like again like it's not the first time watching it,
but it was like you pick up on smaller details
like that that you don't give a shit about the
first time. And I was like, when you're watching it

(07:13):
slightly different, Yes, s nineteen ninety four so hilarious. But
they get up there and then like it's a they
know thet there, you know, they know this guy has
taken this elevator hostage and he's got to blow it up,
and they have all like I guess their bomb squad.
I don't like, you didn't really get a clear indication

(07:33):
that they were bomb squad. At the very least Harry was. Yeah,
Harry definitely was.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Keanu was just like the new hot shot right they did,
who was like, I guess I'm really good at driving
and shooting.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
But they seemed like maybe their bomb squad because they
got in the trunk quickly or pulling.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Out like he was always asking Harry about the bomb,
Like I didn't see a shit about the bomb.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
He seemed like new guy like you're right, like kind
of like a new guy on the squad, like I'm
going to ask the elder statesman, like, hey, Harry, how
did I diffuse this? You've had you probably had experienced
with this, right your resume said, what did you lie?
I was a cane on you that I don't know man,
But yeah, they said they get It was hilarious because

(08:16):
they have all the you know, you said you had
experienced with car bombs.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I mean, yeah, I sorry, I didn't mean to spot.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Set in the joke up. If you don't know what
an Irish car momb is, it's apparently very racist.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
A shot of what jamison in a Guinness in a
Guinness half a half a glass a Guinness. I think
it's Guinness with a shot of jamison and cream and
then you slam it.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, apparently you're not supposed to talk about it anymore.
It's very They're very disappointing to the Irish community.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, it's also very disappointing into your brain when you
have a couple and then you can't walk straight.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Right, But they have all the like the bomb squad
apparently together and Keana goes. Harry said he'd volunteer to
check out the bomb? What the fuck was that? If
you're as blake, obviously he's immediately pissed. It was his
goddamn name, Jake, Jack Jack Jackie. So yeah, he's like,

(09:11):
and so he give Jack Travin. Yeah, Jack Travin. So
they go like and so like the chief immediately says,
all right, you two go go check it out together.
And I'm like, man, how would you how much did
you hate? Are they new partners? Because he would hate
him right there, right, Like, I'm I'm not volunteering. I'm
a veteran. I don't want to go look at a
bomb unless I have to, right, Also, don't speak for me.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Right, especially in an elevator sho, I don't even know
the situation yet. Yeah, let the captain cluis in on
everything's going down, and before you volunteering me, I mean
it seems like Harry was going to go in anyway.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Right, Yeah, yeah, he didn't have that big a problem
with it. Oh and you were right. Nineteen ninety one
was Point Break. Yeah, so yeah, so kind of introduced
to Point Break as a as a decent star and
then yeah, that was this big that was I mean
that was a big movie. That's yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, then he did Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey after
Point Pray some other stuff I've never really heard of.
And then Speed was like probably his next biggest thing
some movies called Dracula. Oh, a little movie called Dracula.
He was johnthan Arker.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I mean, everybody knows that movie, right, joking.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
This is probably Speed was probably his next big action
one after the first.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Chance at a blockbuster, you know, yeah, like a summer blockbuster. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I don't know if Dractly was a blockbuster, but it
was a big hit. Yeah, but action star where he's
the main Yeah. I think Speed's They probably saw he's
got this guy, hasn't it. He's his factor, he's bankable. Yeah,
I heard like he the studie wasn't one hundred percent
like sold on him.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
They couldn't see the character.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Uh and even like he was known for like having
longer hair, apparently he just shaved it and it even
shocked some studio exactly like oh shit, so it just
grew back to the length it was when they started filming.
But I guess to get to row and look like.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I'm serious, get rid of his long hair. Stop doing
the whoa, but I think he probably still does so WHOA.
I don't know if he doesn't that his trademark. I
don't know if he I don't know if he does
a whoa. But like he just has that cadence with
his voice that I mean, even when he's trying to
be serious, it's it's still it's still coming out the
same way.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I have this theory, and I don't know if you
call a theory. But so Keanu Reeves isn't a good actor, Okay,
I just think he's very likable. Yeah, I was gonna
say he's a good person. So you you're okay watching
him in movies when he's.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like, oh hey man, whoa, You're.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Like you don't care because you're like, this fucking guy
is just he seems awesome and I want to have
a beer with him. Everybody keeps asking me if I'm back,
and I'm just gonna say I think I'm back.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's a great look.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, but in speed, like this delivery, with his lines
like the times, You're.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Like, I don't think he's a good actor. I don't know.
He just seems like like Harry Yes, uh, poor dead Harry.
Jeff Daniels. Yeah, you can see a difference in acting. Yeah,
I still.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
That's my theory, Like maybe he's not a great actor,
he's a great dude and you can't help but fucking.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Like him, right Oh yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I mean, and if Canon's listening and you think I'm wrong,
come on the show and we'll discuss how I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's cool. No, And in my head, honestly, he he
I think he kind of portrays a very like every man,
you know.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, so it's easy to like someone who seems like
it's even a better theory. He just you just feel
like I like this guy, right, I mean, he just
feel like I kind of know him.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
He's believable. It was blue collar guy that would jump
on this bus to save people. Yeah, I don't know,
maybe that's Oh and he did he did that. The
studio didn't want him, but he did that stunt where
he jumps on the bus. Oh really yeah, I feel
like he almost did it.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I know if they didn't, it's the studio. They kind
of bullshitted him, and he went ahead and like, no,
I'm going to do it.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
He practiced it, jumping on the bus. You know.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
When he does try to jump on the bus and
his heat feet are hitting his heat his feet when.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
They're hitting the ground, Like, man, that's how you break
an ankle. Oh yeah, like you might delay delayed production
by six months so you can walk down.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
That's why they don't want the stars to do their
own stunts. I'm sure at this point, like some studios
are like, it's Tom Criuse, I funk, I don't whatever,
He's gonna do it anyway, right, just we're gonna need
to get like a couple of million dollars of insurance
for this prod, so have to shut it down.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
But I digress. Yeah, yeah, you get. You get the
elevator scene where they they make all these bold moves
and thwart. Another thing is I haven't watched the movie,
Like Dennis Hopper is spoiler bad guy. I haven't watched
the movie with Dennis Hopper and forever. Yeah, he's a
fucking great back.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
He is outstanding, and I love that. It's like you
see some movies the opening, the our heroes stop x
x y Z situation, and then something happens later then
we get introduced.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
To the bad guy right away.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Dennis Hopper's in right in the first five minutes he
is the bad guy and it carries through. It's not
like where James Bond does that often opening action sequence,
so we know like just how badass he is, right,
and then the movie continues like this sets up right
away like, no, it's fucking Dennis Hopper right he stabbed
a guy in a temple immediately, Oh man, man, it's

(14:32):
such a fake. Uh oh, well, can I see your paperwork?
And even when he's pulling out oh yeah, dude, waits,
he's clearly covered like something that might hurt you with
the paper.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Luckily, he got the most inop security guard on the
planet who doesn't radio like, hey, I got a disturbance
on the ground level, exact, no radio back, just like
goes I'm at the bottom level, looks clear, yeah, and
then sees like, oh, there's some dude that's not supposed to.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Be there, not supposed to be here, but will stand
like right next to him without drawing my gun. He
didn't keep a safe distance, he's like, so he's almost
like it lined up like I'm probably a right good
range for you to kill me.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
My arm's length. Cool.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, it was like, yeah, you're right. Or security guard
in his first day, I didn't know what to do.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
He was an Austin power security guard, completely inapt deserve
to die.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, but even like just the way he covered it
with like, oh his work, Oh, I got my work,
your work order right here? Yeah, And it's kind of like, right, dude,
as a security guard, this is when you should be like.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh wait right, oh yeah, very easily picking something up,
which I was like, also, why is that a gun?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well? All right, So if you're your security guard and
you're you're on your your perimity or your patrol, and
you come across somebody, it shouldn't be there. Wouldn't you
want to pull your gun right away?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I'm like, yo, what the fuck? Or at least maybe
not pointed at him, but at least have it after
ready in your hand, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, because you should right away you should be thinking like, well,
should be like I.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Bet that security guard had two days.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Like that's an action movie thing where they're dressed up
as like oh no, I'm an electrician, I'm just here
to fix this yeah, And I was like, oh that's cool.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I just love how he's like, oh, I'm here to
do this, and he's like, well, I'm gonna need to
see a work order, and he had like convenient had
like an invoice or something sitting there on top of
his tools. It looks so legit. Well he did say
he planned that, like Dennis Hopper then and says he
I planned that for two years, Jack, and you ruined it,
Like that's right, And yeah, I was like, I mean

(16:33):
he had an odd plan for two years. I give
him that. Like I wouldn't have been in the building.
Like after ive, I was playing like I don't know
how many people got in the elevator, like eight, like
I felt like thirteen, just any number.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
But the plan was like he blew, like there's the
main cable, but they had the breaks. But then the
he had the break set to blow. It was going
to demand money then. But he didn't realize that hot shot.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
He didn't realize Jack was there.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I don't even know if he realized, like, hey, on
the roof of this building is a crane.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Apparently the weakest crane ever.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Right, Well, do buildings tall buildings have cranes? Yeah, I
mean I was, I was, I was in no, no,
but I was in. I just remember I took a
vacation to Nashville. One time and there was like thirteen
cranes that like she had something to do with, Like, Yo,
how do you think we if we had to work
on the elevator, how do you think we get it?
Or do you think we get the elevator.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Down the shaft? Well, I'm sure there's that looked like
it was on another building doing something, But it was
such a small crane. I feel like, if you're going
when you're putting stuff on top of the building that's heavy,
it's probably I mean, well, I will say elevators have
to be heavy as shit.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Right when you got thirteen people in it too, Yeah,
it doesn't and it's But at the same time, I'm like,
that was a tiny, tiny crane for being on top
of the building. Like, hey man, that plan came together quick.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, I mean solid idea of attaching a crane to
the elevator. So oh, if it's gonna go, this will
hold it.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Because I love This's another situation where they looked at
the bomb construction. Harry's like, I don't know, I can't
fix it, I can't disarm it.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, I'm Harry didn't have a lot of good ideas
for being the senior guy. He didn't have a lot
of ideas about bomb detection.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Bomb They're like they break out like old school textbooks
and start looking up.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm like, that's not a good sign. Does it have
a red and a green wire and a black? I
see so many movies, and I know I did feel
like that.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
At one point, they're like, what's the bomb look like
on the bush?

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Does it have a red in the green war and
a black? Damn it? He has a false and whatever.
We'll get back to you. Hold tight.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
But they do foil uh plan one of Dennis Hoppers
in this elevator.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
They do save everybody.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I like how they get that one girl at the
last minute. You know, if it's a horror movie, that
elevator where yeah at the knees, Yeah, at best at
the knees, Yeah, it would definitely been like a final death.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
He kind of seems they save everybody and it pisses off.
But that's when you get like two of the most
memorable scenes of the movie is they realize like Jack
Jack does not give up. He's like he's got to
be close, and so they're like, all right, well we
got to find him. So they I realize he's in
an elevator, but then he gets he gets hair.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
You know, how would he be controlling this? He's got
to be nearby, he'd want to.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, But I love the part because I always remember
from this movie is the the scene where they're like
him and what they're like? Jack and Harry are talking
about something. They're like, how do you get out? Oh here?
What did he say? Pop quiz? Or is it something else?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Because it was well, the situation of this the well
they set it up, what happens when they go out,
when they find out as hopper and the first part
of the movie, so when they're going into the elevator
after jumping the car and volunteering, Harry he's like, pop quiz,
hot shot? What do you do when the bad guy

(19:58):
has a hostage? I think Kena was like shoot the hostage.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Taking shoot the hostage, taking all of the equations.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, and Harry's like the fuck and right away you
have to know when that line is delivered, like, oh, okay,
he's going to have to shoot the hostage.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
In this case, it turned out to be a fucking hurry.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
But I actually stopped the movie when I watched it.
I was like, because that pop quiz hot shot was
used on so much shit. I was like, this was
your origin, right.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Like, yeah, absolutely has to be the origin.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, yeah, I was like because it was. Yeah, it
was like the whole, the whole shoot the hostage situation
and the like pop quiz hot shot, like both of them,
Like I remember those two things. I definitely remember from
this movie being like such iconic things were like, yeah,
you shoot the hostage. You don't kill him, you shoot
them so they can't car him because they're going to
be bleeding out. They're going to be a liability now,
like yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
It doesn't like so they do figure out that Dennis
Hoppers still somewhere in the building and they go down
lower levels and they do find him. He gets Harry
falls right in into the.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Hostage shotgun, just blowing the top out of that elevator,
right and the most powerful shotgun on the planet. But yeah,
Harry does kind of mouth to Cana, right, yeah, shoot
your hostage, right.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
But then he complains later, right, He's like, you told
me to shoot what you say, like six inches off
the mark and I'd be dead. Yeah, I guess you
could have hit the what's the big army in the
femoral artery and then you like everywhere, Yeah, yeah, shoot
the outside, like dude, Like we see so many movies
like just get shot, like like ah.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Ship or a shoulder maybe maybe a shoulder.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Shoulder movies make me believe that shoulders aren't that hard
to heal back up apparently, or at least you can
continue we I mean, you hurt your shoulder lifting, right,
so you know it's probably not true.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's what makes me laugh about it. It's like you
see all guys getting shot on the shoulder and action
movies all the time because they make it look like
it's not a vulnerable part. But in reality, he's like, yeah,
I tore some ship in my shoulder. It's not a
fun thing to come back from. Yeah. So they yeah,
they but they take down Dennis Hopper whatever's Dwayne or
whatever the hell his name was in the movie. Was

(22:17):
in his plot Darryl maybe Darryl. Darryl sounds fun. Yeah
he's Darryl now. But he takes him down and ruin
his two year plot. And so now he's just got
a vendetta against Jack Travan yep, and he blows he
blows up first. He just blows up his friend that
runs a bus.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah that was, Yes, everything's good. They're heroes. They get
a medal, right, yeah, Harry, Like they get their metal.
Harry's has a king because he's shine the leg. Then
they go out and get wicked hammered to celebrate getting
the metal and like, and it was like, hey is
Harry he is he driving and marry When he starts
to walking, all right, I'm gonna go home and get

(22:56):
later something, go.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Home and have sex. It wasn't even like a good
un It was like, all right, I'm going to go
home and have sex.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I was like, is he planning on driving? Because it's
pretty he's pretty messed up.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah. I just love that. He's like, all right, I'm
gonna go having sex and Karen's like you're gonna go
home and puke and he's like both of them sound
like a good time. Like either way, I want a
good time.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Something like that, And then we cut to the next morning.
Kanan who it's looking off fresh, you know, can't beers,
can't take this man down. He's up ready to go
coffee shop. Yeah, and then the bus driver comes in right,
which wars the coffee and he puts his gloves on. Well,
I thought that was kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
It's a hot coffee, man, I know.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
It also makes him look like he's gonna do something nefarious, right,
as he's like orders coffee and then when he's talking
to kind of just putting on.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
His gloves strangle a bit.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, but he goes out, gets on the bus and
blows it up.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
And that's when and I feel like that maybe that's
needed to really not that Dennis Hopper wasn't the bad guy,
but really worse it that he doesn't care about life anymore.
Because before you can think, like.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Cares about he just wanted money, pulling seven million dollars.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
So before okay, he wanted his he wanted the money
for the elevator. Well now it's like and at the
end it's like, well I don't care about the bus, right,
or the people. I just want my goddamn money.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, I want when I'm owed.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Right, which I don't know how. I don't think they
really explained why he thinks he's so.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
It was that nineteen ninety four he's like, I want
three point seven million, that's what I'm owed right. I'm assuming, uh,
some sort of h yeah, retirement. I just wonder, like
with the day's inflation, be like just give it to him.
Oh and then we can save all the host is
pretty easily.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
That was That was one of my points for like
later and like let's talk was we can talk later
more about three point seven million seems like a very
small price to pay for the damage that was done.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, like three point seven million. This guy goes away
don Yeah, to the city's like, well, we're like, you know,
three hundred point seven billion to fix all this shit.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Back up, you blow up a jumbo jet. Guarantee of
that jet was more than three point seven million.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Right, Well, they and they get a close up of
the logo on that jet. It was like something carriers,
I guess number one. It ties into die Harden. It's
like the same company of that day where you but
I also felt like it was a wait list and
they're like it was just freight. It was just fright.
There was nobody on that jet, you know, so don't

(25:32):
worry that whall. So yeah, you got everybody off the bus,
but you just killed a whole plane pool people. And
I think that was their way of letting its just freight.
People didn't get their Amazon delivery.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
So this is getting it was getting towed to the
runway for some reason.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Right right, Yeah, well that's at the end of move
we can get there. But my problem with that is, like,
you know, there's a police situation and this fucking bus
is going around. Why are you towing the plane? This
airport should be shot the fuck down, right.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
That was Oh yeah, that was the first thing.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I was like, everybody, it looks like all the airplane
airport workers are like just going out their day, like,
nothing to see here, guys, that bus, nothing to see here.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yay, you're on the clock. Get your ship. I don't
want overtime tomorrow, motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Get that fucking plane to the warehouse and get it.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Don't care, don't care. It's been doing that for an hour.
I don't fucking care. Get that goddamn plane to the warehouse.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
It's probably the guy from that seventies or that seventies
cartoon Bill Burrs.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Oh, that one big family, the guy that was got
real fat. Just get the airplane and get the god
damn man plane in the hanger. Yeah, but yeah, well sorry,
now go ahead. So I was like, do you need
a freshman soon? Yeah? No, the bus.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
The bus blows up its finny when the bus was
still moving down the street, because I guess he started
up and it blew up as he was driving. There's
a moment where you can see there's a van in
front of the bus, and if you look, you can
see the chain attached to the bus is dragging the
bus along.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's had to laugh.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah again back in the day, watching on the big
screen even like uh, you know, standard definition televisions never
noticed it watching on a big four K like, we
clearly see the chain.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
I just thought that was funny. I love the fact
that he was running after the bus because his buddy
was in it. Like that dude, that bus was obliterated. Yeah,
you're running like, oh, trying to save him, Like I
get it. But also no, I don't get it, Like
that dude was just incinerated immediately. There's no chance, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
And don't worry, kids, we're in the era of phone boosts, right.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
That was the next thing. I was like, oh, yeah,
it's ninety seventh phone.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
How does the bad guy called Keanu a phone booth? Yeah,
just to and kind of and he's like I should
pick that up, right.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
That was everything.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I was like where he should have been, like, I
gotta go, so I gotta like call call the cops.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
This's just happened. He's like, oh no, the phone's ringing.
It must be for me. I love the nineties at
movies and a little bit eighties nineties, a little bit
of early two thousands, of the fact that they made
phone boost part of it, whereas people watching it now
going like, what the why is the phones on the.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Side of the road, right, so die Hard too, Yeah,
they had to be in a phone move by a
certain time.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
It was here's bill one had to call the number
on the pave phone. Yeah, like it's it's such a
fun thing that you know. It was nineteen ninety four. Though,
we did have.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Some mobile phones that come in to play in the movie,
so we did have some type of cellular activity.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, big big cell phone, big ones. Yeah, like almost
like walkie talkie cell phone.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
But that, yeah, that that sets off him telling him like, yeah, man,
there's a bus downtown. It's right with a bomb, right
once it hits fifty, it can't go below fifty. Uh,
basically I want my.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Money, yeah if it you know.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, and then Keanu proceid like, was it bust twenty
five to twenty five? Yeah, and I guess he told
him where it is, but he used being down the highway, this.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Is LA traffic.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
He still managed to get through it, cutting on the
burn of the road, cutting people off. He's doing an
excellent job. I'm not causing any accidents. Oh it is
really sweet, like vintage Bronco. Oh yeah, it was like
that thing was nice. It was pretty sweet, sweet vehicle.
I enjoyed that vile.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
No.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I would love to own one of those. It was
probably like seventies probably, yeah, sixties or seventies.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean I remember I feel like, well, I
mean eighties early nineties is the heyday for Broncos. But
I like, yeah, I remember Broncos were like it was
like an answer to jee for Ford, you know. So yeah,
it was like they tried to make it a cool
ass vehicle.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
And it really is cool ass.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
It looks. I mean, if you ever, if you ever
were in was in a Bronco or what, you're like,
oh my god, uh that thing, if you were in it,
I probably felt like it was gonna tip over at
any second, because just like early jeeps, like the Broncos
were like kind of narrow like they they just they
just looked like they would tip easy if you were
really flying. And I'm like he was right, especially elevated

(30:17):
like a lifted nerves, but barely was a problem for him.
It was all good. He was a master of the
brons driver. Maybe that's why they opening when he comes
ramping out over. We need to know, like this guy
can fucking drive, right? Yeah? Do you is there a
driving sceners are a chase scene.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
He's driving, and you know, I'm sure Ken was like, no,
I'm gonna learn how to do this.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
The one thing I love is I guess it's like
one of those things like if I wouldn't have been here.
So we now we know it's bus twenty five. Twenty five.
We cut to Sandra Bullock looking great, Oh, always looking yeah,
looking great. Uh, she basically missed the bus and she
keeps running after Yeah, and the bus driver you know, stops, Sam,

(31:03):
saam stop the bus.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Now, And she had just Sam would have done his job. Yeah,
he just stops. Wouldn't put her in danger, no, and
she'd have been like living her life yep. But instead
she was ended up driving a bus and being a heroin.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
So she actually did like spend some weeks learn how
to drive a bus.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's cool. I bet it's a monster. Yeah, dude,
that's a lot of weight to carry. Yeah, to be
taking corners. Yeah, as we learned, this movie can be tricky.
But I imagine in real life though, just every corner
is like in a big bus is painting, Like that
corner they make at that one style there's a it's
like a basically a tea and she has to make

(31:46):
it at fifty miles an hour. There's no fucking way
that bus. It would like in real life that bus
never makes that. But then even the whole fifty leg.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
He lives in La, right, that's where we're at, right, Yeah, yeah,
he knows the track.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think it's almost impossible.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
All right, that you could keep uh, your bus to
fifty because from what I know, it's basically like stop
and go.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Oh yeah, it's just miserable awful because at one point,
like whenever he so he gets you know, he's driving
and he finds the bus that's on it hadn't reached
fifty yet, and they're like, I love that they played
that off of like there's a chance that he's going
to get to this bus before it gets to fifty.
Except they're already showing this bus on a freeway going

(32:30):
forty nine, like yeah, Like it was so hilarious, like
what if this bus is going forty nine on the freeway,
get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
That they know they kept showing the needle on the
uh yeah, the mileage they because they knew it would
not to be HD. Uh so yeah, he finally Oh no,
he catch up the bus because he uh hijacks what
was the guy's name the likes to play was like.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Jackman, Oh yeah, jazz Man or something.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, hijack Superman, Yeah man, hijackson convertible.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Uh, which he you know, proceeds to like destroy.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh that was after when he was trying to run
it down, banging on the window, like it took him
a while to pull.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Out his badge, right. I was like, why are you
not doing the badge out right away?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Police, because I would if I was on the bus,
I'd be like, oh, this is a crackhead. This guy
is acting really strange. No speed up, don't let him
on the bus.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
What I love is the UX. Just if he would
have gotten the bus. It was over. The movie was
done right. What I love is the juxta mission of
earlier Sandra Bullock hot chick yelling at the bus driver,
banging on it to stop. Bus definitely stops right, random
guy yelling at the bus to stop. No fucking way.
That guy's insane. He's just crazy. He's Look at that, Sam.

(33:44):
If you had just been a fucking equal opportunity guys, Sam,
make the right decision.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
No, no, I'm not picked up Sandra, and he should
have picked He stopped for Keanu.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
You know, be just be cool man, be cool to
all genders. Oh, you're in the middle.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Of the LA Freeway and uh pound and you went
to telling you to stop you speed up.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Of course, But yeah, that was that was funny. It's
like you have to have your badge badge out right away. Yeah,
you need to be showing that on the on the
door to get in, like stop the goddamn bus.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
You could argue that, Yeah, man, you can go and
get a fake badge anywhere.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So you still got air on the side of like.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
He looks crazy, okay, then get you look at Kean like,
I don't know, man, he was hit like a fashionable
jacket on. He was all ready to go out and
the date kind of looking with his dress. Yeah, he
didn't look like a crackhead.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, he's very well pulled together for a crackhead.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah right, well that's what he probably should have taken
a shirt off. Right, And everyone in the bus were like, no,
stop for this dude, and John Gantor had been like, yeah,
so to get on the bus. Uh, he commandeers that car.

(34:58):
They managed to get in front of it and do
like a little sign there's.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
A bomb on the bus. I love that guy has
a marker at a patent paper on it? Right? Who
does that? Who has a blank.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Paper and a magic marker in their car?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Randomly? Right? And then it was just I mean it
was great. It was a fun scene, but like the
whole like right on right, bomb on bus and hold
it up so the driver can see it. But when
he does, like, oh he lose it and then like
flops the pace right on the front window. Everybody.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, I'm like, why would you carry blank paper in
a magic marker and in your convertible.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
In case he needs to write down lyrics for his
next new big hit, Well, like write with a magic marker.
I mean over the age of four. He's Charlie Kelly's
long lost brother. This was one of those convenient we
have to no one's going to care, and then it's
just the device. We just need to get him there man.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
And then twenty years later, two guys here and like, no,
why did he have paper in a magic marker in
his car?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I really need to know. It wasn't even like a
legal tablet. It was this white lined paper. Right.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I drove a car in nineteen ninety four. I never
carried a magic marker in blank paper.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Never had either of those things unless I was unless
I was in my work. Thing that I didn't have
either of those things just floating around in my car.
I'm calling it a pop but believable plausible. I'm not
called plausible.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Pocano gets on the bus bye. He asked to ask
tune man, uh.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Is your car and short?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Now? Yeah, Well made a funny question because to drive
it on the road, need it has to be in shirt.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
It doesn't mean that everybody's doing that. Right.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
As soon as he's like oh yeah, he he pulls
speaks past the bus, opens the door.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Now again, I thought this was over the top of course,
and then hits.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
The brake, so the bus shares the door off.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Uh. And then then once that happens, he he pulls
level with the opening and he jumps over.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
You can still do the same thing without the top
door and the door right right. And me had in
my head I was like, or just have tune man
slip over to the driver's side and you stand on
the door. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, there was so bad. There were so many better
ways to do it. I mean, not that I've ever tried,
like fifty miles an hour to jump onto a bus
from a movie cut sounds like fun.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I mean I'm down.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I think, yeah, hey, it's part of our I'll take
the door movie channel.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I'll take the doors off my jeep. We'll rent to
a bus and we'll see if people'll get up to
fifty miles. See if we can go rent out the
airport in Harrisburg. I think we need like insurance. I
doubt that. I don't think so. I'm unemployed. I think
I'm on disability. We will probably maybe fine like an airport, Yeah, Harrisburg.
Do some quick lap pay? Hey, can we just do

(37:52):
like five quick for a podcast? Maybe we get a
hold of you like a podcast? Yeah, what is that?
It sounds great, We're gonna be famous.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
But he gets on the bus, look at all rockstar uh,
and he's trying to like everybody to this, calm down
and pull. Then he finally pulls his damn badge out
and then there's one guy gets up as a gun.
He's like, dude, I don't carry what you've done.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Right. It was such a weird situation of like, yeah,
but we need what we needed to shoot.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Sam right oh yeah in the shoulder because we needed
to have Sandra Bullock in the driving.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
The rider's head be like, well, how do we get
this hot chicken the driver's seat? How do we we
need Sam out? Well, how do we do it? And
Sam ends up being like I got shot but he
lives easily.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
He's he's also it gets to be the first one
off the bus. Sam's like fuck yeah, He's like, I
don't leave you, but later breaks down, Oh yeah, she'd
take a break. We'll be right back with more pop quizzes.

(39:06):
Hot shot, Hey, Hi, we're back.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
We're back. WHOA when last we left you? We were
talking about Sam getting shot thrown off a bus. Right.
One of my favorite non characters but characters. Was gigantor
I don't even know. Yeah, you came to know him
as Ortiz, but uh yeah with he like he's just
a giant man on the bus that we get introduced

(39:31):
to as Orties. There's a there's a Cameron from Ferris
Buellers on the bus. He's like a tourist. Yeah, what's man.
The lady that gets the crazy lady She she's the
lady that gets blown up. Yeah, she's the one that
she plays that almost same character I feel like on everything,

(39:52):
just an eccentric crazy person. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
It almost reminds me of like mister mister lady Gore.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
But yeah, Now he's on the bus. He's stuck with
the rest of him driving down the road. Can't go
Belotle fifty.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Uh. Sam gets shot and what do you know? Well
they is that before after they direct them onto ex
highway that's not being used, No, this brand new highway.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
She's in the seat when they direct him to the
new highway. So Sandra is in the seat. Yeah, which
I always like this one scene always has found funny.
When they do direct from the new highway, which seems great.
You gotta get off the Santa Monica Freeway because the
stop and go and like she's got to do some
crazy shit. She's hitting cars. She gets on this freeway

(40:41):
and it does seem like all right, gause because it's
trying to figure out the situation. And then someone like
points out to the captain that the bridget there's this
section highway is not done. He's looking at the map like, no,
but show's right here, that's done.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
He's my favorite part. We're looking and it was like
they're all looking at maps. All of a sudden, it's like, well,
this map says it's finished. And it took me to
Tommy Boy where he's like David Spade gets out of
the car and Tommy's he's like, fill it up with premium.
And David Spade goes into the guy at the gas
station and goes like, Hey, I need to get to
X town, but I don't see it on the map.
And the guy's like, well, then maybe you need a

(41:19):
new map. And that's just reminded me of because this
guy's like, what says on the map it's finished. I'm like,
what map? Right In nineteen ninety seven, I realized GPS
wasn't a big n ninety four wasn't a big thing
or anything at all for cars and everything. But you go, like,
what map has a road finished? Before it's finished? Who's
printing maps? The maps? The maps?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Like, hey, this is what it will be, right. But
I always thought it was funny when the Captain O
Chief when they tell him like, oh yeah, bridges out,
it's on the map. I guess the map's wrong, and
he yells, you're fired. You're all fucking fired. It just
cracks me out the way he's just so like angry,
he just right, God, he has to get on the phonetel.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Jack, Hey, buddy, yeah, my eye.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
So we kind of kind of actually we kind of
fucked up telling you to get off on this this
new freeway. In about three minutes, you're going to have
a gap that's as large as the bus, right, And
it just brings us back to knowing that, well, we're
already seeing Keano jump in a car. Can he helps Sandra,
which is oddly oddly jump What was it like twenty

(42:28):
five foot thirty? They said fifty fifty, but it seemed
bigger in the movie. Yeah, Like I was like fifty
foot gap okay, in my butt, in my head looking
around the distillery.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
The bus was probably about fifty feet right, Like, yeah,
so the gap was as big as the bus. But
the gap that like when you showed like that bus
is in air, it seems like it seems like it
was like eighty or ninety feet dude. So yeah, they
floor it.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
No, the my thing about the bus is a floor
and they're talking about there, Well, there's.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
A little bit of an incline to be okay.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
When they hit the incline, it's like like the hand
of God. Oh, it comes down and picks the front
of the bus up. It just raises so much. Yeah,
to make this jump. It's so ridiculous. I'm assuming they
a would have just drop right off the bridge.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, I mean, but some force picks the front of
the bus up and gives them a good, good ramp.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah. Well, like that was the one thing. I think
it was like back in the day, like whenever I
was at home and my parents had the HBO and
it was they would do like fun like thirty minute
like behind the scenes like things about to get you
psyched for a movie. And I watched something where it
said like that scene that they actually jumped a bus

(43:46):
across something to get film. It wasn't cgi And the
guy that was in the bus was like sitting in
the middle of the bus because it was like if
you sit in front of the bus, you're fought. Like
the way that bus comes down, it was just you
would have just broken ship been on cover.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
They built like a rig so he could steer from
the center of the bush.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
So he was in the middle of the bus doing
some crazy you know how her fart was and you
know in the stunt. But and he's still like they said,
he almost broke his back because the way it like
ramped up and hit like that. They didn't plan for
it to look like a jet landing. They said, it
was like it just way it hit on whatever they
built didn't do like I thought it wouldn't like so

(44:27):
just boom completely up and then slammed down. So he's
like even in the middle of the bus. That dude
like got fucked up a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Well, so, I mean what we see in the movie though,
is not that bus. There was a there was something
picking the front end up. Yeah that was not legit.
How oh well, they that's not physics.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
They looked at like they tried to hide it in
the scene with like some two by fours and stuff
stacked up, which I'm not sure where he used two
by four bridge, Yeah, they did.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
They set it up so it was all of a
sudden boom, ramped high because they had a little platform.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Right like yeah, because if you're watching the movie, the.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Kind of lifted it up a little bit because it
looks it looked really bad and ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Oh no, yeah, they they they jumped the bus. They
jumped over I'm not sure how big they jumped it,
but they had a guy, the stunt guy jump it.
But when you when you see like it hit, like
first they show just a just the unfinished road, there's
nothing there. But whenever it whenever they show the front
angle of the bus jumping, there's like they show like
construction material like all stacked up right at the edge.

(45:33):
I'm sure it was the hide like the little.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Okay, yeah, when that bus hits the other side, oh
my god, it's fucked. Yeah oh yeah, you see piece
of flying uh yet edit? Yeah here and then like
everybody's good, everyone's fine. Everyone were still going, yeah, still
going fifty solid.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Can you imagine like if that was a real situation.
Then that did happen, the adrenaline dump that you would
experience if you were on that bus, Like, holy the.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Bus pissed himself for sure, right in real life, I
mean that situation, Oh yeah, which is a true hail Mary. Yeah,
you know, ran hoping like this works, and then everybody
was like're not gonna work.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, we're going it. We're dead.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Even everything about the laws of physics, like we're dead.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
What it's like, Oh, so we're gonna miss this ramp,
but we're not even gonna go far enough to hit
the edge of the other side. But the wheels will
still turn at fifty mill an hour and then once
but once we hit the floor and and uh, Sandra
Book's dead and kicks her foot off the gas.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Then yeah, because the nose of that bus, yeah, slammed down.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah. No, she and it's not like she had a
seat belt.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
She she was crumbled into pieces in real life if
they really.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Tried to She's fine. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I think she had like a little nick on her head. Yep,
a little little nick, but you know, kissed a booboo,
It's gonna be okay.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Wiped it off with a dirty ass fuck and shirt right,
I wait to get dirty. Mike wooed. Thanks man, Thanks no,
Cyphili's great. I appreciate, appreciate you helped me out. Thanks Keanu. Yeah,
but that was I mean that was that was like
the biggest stunt in the movie. Huge, Yes, and it.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Really is them on a bus and the drama of
like this bomb because you know, he does once agains
on the bus there initially he does you know, he
needs to get.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
A look at the bomb, and the.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Driver Sam when he's Sam still driving, says there's an
access panel, so he pokes his head down seize his
one bomb. Harry's like, that's a dummy, yeah, and they
see another one. Uh, and he's like, there's enough C
four up on the air to blow a hole in
the world, which made me think, like, well, in Demolition
Man they had like five gallon Erl's like, what kind

(47:52):
of hole's that blowing in the world.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, it's just like my my knowledge is C four movies.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
It doesn't really add up. Seems like the sea form
math in Hollywood is just very has a lot of
variables in it does.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
But yeah, like that's that's what the one that Harry
was like is a dummy wasn't really a dummy bomb.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
It was just to blow.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Off the the one of the step plates.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
So when that old lady tried to exit Wich again,
the cops are responsible because they knew nobody.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Could get off the bus. Yeah. Jack kept trying to
tell him, no one could get off the bus except Sam.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, they got Sam off and then come on, come on,
and this old lady was wicket scared and yeah, because
he did make a cannonmane an agreement with Dennis Hopper
to let Sam off. It's going to show good faith. Yeah,
then I really help your case to get this money.
And he's like fine, but they got him off, and
the cops are like, come on to the old lady

(48:50):
like they they have known the program, like sorry, well
yeah he can sorry, no, get back on the bus.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
You get back on the bus, lady. He kept he
kept trying to tell them, and they just we're like, nah, no,
there's no way you can see us, even though there's
news copters and everything else. And you don't know yet
that he has a camera. We don't know one of
the yo little little hot twists. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, but so that that one janky looking bomb does
blow the step plate which makes her fall down and over.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
It was I mean, that was one of those like
not laughing at the death, I'm just saying like right,
oh yeah, ye was like like Yona, yeah, you you
killed that bitch. But yeah, that was that was one
of those again like no, we got to reinforce. This
guy's a villain, like it's not fake, it's not this
like he's he's a he's a piece of She's like,

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I'm not messing around. I want my three point seven million.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
And I know they were like why that number? And
then even when Kena got a good look at the bomb,
he's like, yeah no, there's like a gold watch is
like the time timer piece.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
And that was like a big clue, right, I love
like why why such a why such a piece of shit? Right? Trigger?
Why it's not like reliable? Why why? I love how
they caught it cheesy because that was like the gold
watched to attire and it did. It did look like
a piece of shit, Like they went to the fucking
pawn shop and got the cheesiest gold watch they could find.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, that's really not a thing anymore when you retire,
Like give you right? Why was that ever a thing
that sounds so stipid. I don't know, people, why would
I retire and want a gold watch? Because their phones
didn't tell time? I don't know, right, they didn't have
right cell phones? So yeah, what time is it?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Get well, let me look at my gold watcher. Let
me see what I worked fifty years for. Its fall. Yeah,
it just falls right off your wrist.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah. Ship, I want my three point seven million. But yeah,
so that they know he's not playing. Uh but they
do great plan actually in the movie as far as
script writing, I love it. After the whole bridges out
they jumped the bus, no is a Keanu figures out

(51:10):
get off here there's an airport.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah, and we get to circle that runway. Yep.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
The cops don't call ahead, no, no, no, and even
alert to the airport like they would have like airport
security would.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Have been would have swamped does but they like they're
just like, no, don't go through it. And they go
through and then everybody's going about their day. Everybody's still
loading passes her into a plane.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
It would be an entire airport shutdown when that bus
security and just bust it through.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
What I love is uh so they He's like, yeah,
he sees the exit like for the lax or whatever.
The airport is like, yeah, get off, get off and
off because they can nose he can circle it and
and uh and Mac is like the head of the bombing.
I was like, ah, that's my point, Jack. And they
go barreling into this airport.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
But they have like the reverse spikes for yeah, and
only like one tire gets hit right, like they go
the front. Everything should have yeah, they should all like
if they're real spikes, they all should have popped. Only
one tire pops, Like, but I do think the chief
had time to call the airport and tell them the plan.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Uh yeah, I don't. I don't know if you had time.
But it seemed like a pretty quick exit to.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I guess I. I guess we're gonna say it was
a heat of the moment. Yeah, Jack made a call. Now,
if the spike strap would have worked the way it shouldn't.
That they're on their flat tires, coboom.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
They're on steel rims trying to go f.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Roll credits right then people are like, whoa that movie ended, right.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
I feel like the police didn't have time to think
of rerouting them because they're like, ain't no way, and hell,
they're making this joke.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I think half the cops probably pop champagne once they
re round to like a freeway with it.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
It wasn't in you should right, They were like, oh ship,
well that well okay, Well let's just have all the
paramedics in the firefighters get to the gap in the
road because they're going to be at the bottom of
that and a firing mess. Maybe one survives. We'll see,
now Harry does.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
There's a lot of happen there's a lot of plot happening,
lots of plot, but with the gold Watch, Harry kind
of figures out it has to be he's taking an
next cop, right, uh.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I mean he gives the big clues at the beginning
when the hill they seen her. He's like, oh classic,
this move this life. See it's really easy. Whenever you
know the end game, you've watched the movie already and
you're like, oh man, there were likes a lot of
clues to go, oh this, yeah, this guy was definitely
a cop or something like he knows what they're going
to do.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
And then led to like nothing was coming up with
the coss and he's like, you know, maybe retired cop
living he's definitely living here now. But they finally find
a guy, uh was a what a cop in Atlanta,
you know who lost a thumb in accident?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (53:58):
And then did he get shit cam before retirement or
did he get.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I yeah, I forget.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
That's why he was so mad. He wanted his pension.
He wanted his three point seven million with nothing more,
nothing less.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Right, And I do like it kind of throws back
to uh payback with mel Gibson, Like they kept saying,
like you want to say eighty greene. He's like it's
not eighty or whatever it was, Like it's like it's
it's forty. I only want my I only want what
was fair to me, which is makes you makes him
like the great anti hero is like, no, I don't
want your goddamn eighty grand. I want forty grand. That
was my hat. That's all I want. Like we could

(54:30):
end this right now for a forty.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Grand because uh he got screwed out of his pension
or something because uh, he's injuries injury and he wants it.
He spent it, like my my entire life, you know,
being numped his retirement and you screwed me I want
it right, So Harry, would they figure out where he lives?

(54:51):
They go there again, Harry couldn't figure out that everything
is a track with.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
It right in my head. I was like, so this
guy is just a mastermind, Like yeah, years bombing. Sometimes
he seems crazy as hell, but yeah, he's a mastermind.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
But also the only things people are crazy as hell.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
The only thing gets me was like, he spent two
years planning that elevator bomb, but man, he he whenever
that didn't work, he had a ten hour window maybe
to do a bomb plot on a bus. Like he
just pulled together like a motherfucker, which is probably better,
probably better better than this in the first one. But

(55:31):
also like, so so I can see him being like, oh,
I'm going to do my elevator stick. But if they
find me out, that's when that place is already set
up to blow, like that was already booby trapped. Which
also I looked at Rachel Or my wife, she was
on the couch watching it with me, like again because
it is enjoyable movie. Yeah, like watching him, I was like, yeah, so,
so Harry Dunn doesn't realize that, oh, this guy who

(55:54):
seems like a pretty sharp cookie or at least a
bomb nut. Doesn't have his house like booby trapped at all.
He's just in his house. I'm like, no, I definitely
would do this and never find me. Unfortunately, he figures
it out too late, literally two seconds.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Almost like the face he makes he knows like, well,
first off, his face is like fuck yeah, but there's
a moment in his eyes like.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I feel like he realized, like I should have known.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I should have known this would it was too easy
to figure it out, and he uh And I think
even when Dennis Hopper uh told Keanu that Harry is dead,
Keanu is all pissed off, but he was like the
gold Watch probably too two on the nose or something

(56:40):
like living They're like, yeah, I thought that might be.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Too much of a clue, were too cheesy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Again, he just doesn't give a ship that he just
killed Harry and maybe some other SWAT team members.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
I can't I couldn't tell. Oh yeah, it seemed like
a big, big swathow people went in there. But he
was yeah, He's like, it's just one of those like nope,
I just just give me my goddamn three point seven nine.
None that said what fucking happened like it's all I
want point seven because I was because as soon as
he said like three point seven with the elevator scene,

(57:12):
I was going through in my head like just counting
up damage. After that, I was.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Like, because like, it just seems like not a lot
of money, right, it would have been cheaper for the
city just to pay it out and then hire somebody
to hunt him down and get it back.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Uh So they get to the airport, but we got
this moment where, uh, counter like they figure out because
with the airport there's like the helicopters the so they
thought he was watching them via news because news are
they're all, but they didn't helicopters couldn't fly and watch
this bus circle. Yeah, no fly zone for these news helicopters.

(57:49):
What seem like they got a beat. He can't see us.
But then he realizes, yeah that there's a he has
a camera because he he referend like a little hint
he called he called Sandra Bullock a wildcat.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
But there was like it was that and it was
like I'm not sure if it was the same one,
but it was really early on he said something about
that big guy, something something about that big guy in
this and it was like again it was you know, like,
how do you how do you know? There's when you
watch it before you realize you know he has the camera.
And he said, because he says something early about that
big guy, I might even been before Sandra was driving it.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah, I think I missed missed that because I just
knew in my head that he's gonna reference Wildcat.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah. But yeah, like yeah, it was. It was a
fun like, oh shit, this guy's so good again ten
hours versus two years. Still a better player with the bus, Right,
you should do some more stuff on the fly, bro,
Yeah you're thinking of dude.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
But the airport count of finally figures out that he
has a camera because he looks at her sweater. It
was like Arizona University, great football team. She's like a,
I mean, yeah, I guess I wouldn't really know. Yeah, Wildcats,
he's been watching us the whole time, son of a gun.
So he tells the chief, who goes out to one

(59:06):
of the vans on the outside perm of the airport
and I guess this guy can just I love.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
He's like you what he said, you can broadcast you ate.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Signalpen here like, yeah, I could hijack that signal. We'll
make a tape of it, hoop it back, shoot it
back out to this guy and I'm like, oh really yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
I was like it was just so easy. How they
are like, no, we can definitely do this, and boom.
It just came together so quick because I mean Ken
already tried to time, like nobody make a sudden move.
He already got off too, got off the bus, tried
to tried to diffuse the bomb, and then just poked
the hole in the gas tank.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Right, yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
That was one of those scenes like they got.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Him on like a little It just seemed like a
bad idea, like a little goat CARTI thing.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Almost like a creeper that you'd work on underneath, Yeah,
like an industrial creeper even.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
But also I always wondered, like, so, yeah, he lays
on this creeper in the back of one of the
police vehicles and they let out like cable, So he's
gonna go onto the bus and see if you can
disharm the bomb. And this is when Harry is still alive. Yeah,
But also like when they released him on this little creeper,
why they do it, Like fifty feet. Why why weren't

(01:00:17):
they closer? They know how fast he's gonna go. It's
still like he just gave room for that cable to
start swaying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Like yeah, the best ones, Like they very dramatic scene
where they released him like five thousand yards ahead of
the bus to go back and then and Rachel and
I both agreed that. So they do a very dramatic
pause right in front of the bus before they keep
releasing the cable uneath it, and he looks at Sandra

(01:00:45):
Bullock in the driver's seat and they exchange a moment.
But I was like, we both were like, no, they
missed the moment. He should have winked thumbs up, something
like badass hero type shit like that, I'm going to
the bus and I know you got to. I got this.
We're fucking good, Like there should have been something there,
but it was just no. He looks up, gives this,

(01:01:06):
reeves look like have the sex later baby.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Of course they represent like about the relationship starting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Later in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Yeah, so of course he's gonna get the girl there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
How could he not?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah, but so again this their whole plan doesn't with
this little go kart under the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Of course it goes south and ship's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Going and he has to like kind of like find
a way to grip on underneath the bus or get
spit out. The back end probably ran over, yeah, and
the best thing is to pull out is like knife
or whatever screwdriver screwdriver and which easily punctures I guess
apparently now, so he does. He does make it back

(01:01:57):
in there. Oh, there's another access panel, and they all
of a sudden there's two bats.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Earlier in the movie, there was one access panel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, when he was looking at for a way and
the guy's like, no, there's an access panel here. But
later in the movie there's another conveniently access panel that's
much larger because we do need.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
It, yeah, for the end of the movie. We need
a device for later. But they bring it, they pull
them up. It's like bad news. We're leaking fuel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, And then the gauge is going down and he's like,
we probably got about ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I'm like, no, you don't. Thirty minutes later, we're still
asking for a gas truck.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
In the movie, that gauge is going down fast. Now,
the hole wasn't that big for the right gauge to be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Going down like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
But I just thought, like, did anybody think through you know,
how the gauge is gone, because it was so stid.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Super noticeable. Yeah, like it feels like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Oh, he would have literally been like, uh, bad news,
we're losing fuel.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
We got forty five seconds. Yeah, He's like, Mac, we
need a guess truck. He's like, how long have we got?
Ten minutes on ten minut something that's lost an eighth
of a tank in thirty seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
But every time they cut back to it, it was still
going fast. But it wasn't it should be. It was
so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
But yeah, like, man, such fun manufactured drama, you know,
because then you come to that part where they they
loop the tape, they get everybody off the bus and
then but I was like, but and they give uh
Sandra Bullock a pipe to perfectly length and length of

(01:03:33):
pipe put on the gas pedal in a length of
rope to tie on the steering wheel, and they can't
jump off onto the bus. Like the bus was like, nah,
we got everybody but two people were good laid.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yeah, they have to they have to like get out
on the on the comventely new access panel, which is
that's big enough for two people to lay on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Which is like I was like, which is the size
of like a little person? Yeah, that two people can
jump on and yeah, And that was my favorite comment
watching it was as Rachel goes like, wow, they can
both fit on that. Man, if they're lucky, that's not
a door in the Pacific Ocean, because two people can't
even fit on a door, right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
But they survived. Go figure they slide out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Oh man, so much sliding. It looked like a wheels
on them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Yeah, little movie magic. No, there's clearly some wheels. Yeah. Editing, Yeah,
editing really, it's important. You want to make sure you
cut out where you can see the movie magic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah, but it works and it gives him a moment
where like he's is he laying on top of her?
Oh yeah? They to the stop very and embrace. Yeah,
very tight embrace.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
And that's what she says, like, you know, relationships that
start under duress never work out, work out?

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I was like, you guys have known each other for
thirty minutes technically, well maybe two hours, two hours because
they had to eleven o'clock two is going to blow it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Up now, mind you it's Sandra Bullock.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I'd be like, all right, yeah, changing the break up
with me like two weeks because it's like the stress
two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I'm willing to take that chance. You are hardest ship.
That was like, uh is that around her demolition days?
Because she was looking great demolition too. This might have
been her breakout. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
But of course, like I guess it's it's just classic
movie tropes. There's gotta be like a like a love
thing romance. And I mean this is a force romance, right,
and this is and they don't know each other, they've
been through something traumatic. Yeah, but it's not like gigantor
is like you know, like key.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
What's going on a date? Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
This is because like she was she because he's hot
supposed to be Yeah yeah, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
But that's like true story. Yeah both, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah, I'm sure the writers like they got the kids
at the end, right, Everybody like, oh they got together
the end. So apparently I watched except for all the
people that died earlier, not a success.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Everybody lost their side view mirrors on that street. Uh
suppose I did. I saw a thing one time where
apparently they were both single at that point and they
didn't realize that. But they both had a crush on
crush on each other, but they didn't act on it
because you know, it's acting and they assume in profession.
They assumed that the other one did not, so it

(01:06:34):
was a whole thing and like so they never got
to hook up. They never got They both thought each
other were hard to ship and wanted to wanted to
hook up them, but never did because you know life, Yeah, motherfucker,
no limits.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
You miss one hundred percent of the shots you don't take, yes,
So yeah, take it from Ryan and Mark now you
shot strike out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
It is what it is, man, trust me, I've been there.
It hurts, but it goes away. Talking about movies and
handing out life lessons. Yep, that's what we do, Swall
cinema and life lessons, rebranding from the hall.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, we're rebranding the more you Swoll. I love that,
the more you Swoll trademark.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
But that's, in my opinion, that's where the movie peaked
and then an unfortunately downturns right because they just after that,
they just kept trying to get like more juice out
of it than it was worth.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah, and also I could, I could overlook some of
the already stupid things. But you why would they take
if they're trying to catch the bad guy? Why would
Sandra Bullock be taken down right where they're making a
drop right, and even tells her like, just I'll be
right back, Just stay in the ambulance, and she immiately

(01:07:51):
gets out of the ambulance.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Right. Well, one, why is the ambulance going to a
new crime scene? They had to take Jack right, well,
he could have gone take.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Her eats, I know where all the cops are trying
to catch the bad guy. And of course she gets out,
and then the bad guy sees her because he's like
so stupid. Now by then he already saw that they
had looped a video. Right, yeah, job by her getting
out of the ambulance, because she just couldn't stay put
in a situation where there's like swat teams and sniper's

(01:08:23):
on the roosts. She's like, I need to get out
and stretch my legs.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
The most poorly positioned snipers everywhere. Because as soon as
he realizes, like, oh shit, they looped the video. But
also he's so dumb because well he looks out the window.
He sees sniper, sniper, sniper, blah blah blah blah blah.
But he's also so dumb to think that, like, oh god,
damn it, they got me. The're onto me. Uh they're
but they're definitely gonna put real money in that trash can.

(01:08:49):
Fucking a man. Everybody just loses their damn mind. Yeah
of this film.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Yeah, I never looked that way. He like, he knows
they loved it. They should be on to him. He
still has an edge, like, they don't know I a
hole right in the sidewalk. I'm thinking the New York
City sidewalk isn't six inches thick?

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Oh yeah, I mean I don't know, right, Because they
he says to drop this money in this trash can,
which is always like, well then they're just gonna scout
out the trash.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Can, say, you know, he's not just gonna walk up
to it, and they do. They do. They drop this
money with the ink pads into this thing, and then
they're all scoped out on it, yeah, watching it, and
then nothing happens. They're like, I don'nder stand why I
didn't get it yet, Like, come on, it's eleven oh
five whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Because the bad guy used a lightsaber to cut a
hole in the in New York City, La Street sidewalk
under the garbage can that is easily kicked over.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Yeah, it's some bold but it's not like the cops
even checked it. They just opened up the lid and
dumped it in. They could have checked to see you like,
is it rigg? Why does he want us to drop
it here? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Yeah? And also like even when they opened the lid
to put the money in, like whant to be like
there's no garbage in here, because every it was just
it was just oh yeah, like I said.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
You know, technically you're like, oh he had a plan.
It's gonna be dropped down here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
They'll never know. And that's what Cam was like, we'reing
to move what you bring up the GPS?

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Yeah, and he goes over and kicks the garbage cannon.
I'm like, yeah, well that could have been something you
guys did a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
You knew about that garbage can for like three hours now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Be where he wanted to the way when he kicked
it over the way he saw the hole, like I
feel like a certain angle walking up to the garbage can,
he'd be like why is there a hole beneath this
garbage can?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so there was. Again at the ending,
We're getting pretty stupid, right and I think, but also
the whole under underneath the garbage can.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Again, do they not move these Like what if the
garbage guys come to empty and they just they're pissed
that day and they just give it a kick.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
It's not always going to be right over top of
the hole. You cooked, you cooked, you you made. I
think they're supposed to be like bolted down, like because
it was a not movable it was a metal frame
that the trash can went. I think got yeah almost.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
I imagine in a city like that, you got a
bolt sit down, people would take it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Or yeah, take it, beat it around, fire put in
the street. Yeah. So I think it technically was supposed
to be bolted, but at the same time, like it
was still just it was pretty cheap. They were just
I felt like they just kept looking for the false
finish to keep you engaged. I'm like, no, this movie
was outrageous but tight up until this point, and it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
Just you just kept giving this I think the Okay,
so the ending of this movie does get almost it's
almost like a different not a different movie, maybe a
different writer, because now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
We start getting in with ending when they get on
the subway. Okay, now we're on another moving it's kind
of a bus, you know around subway it's like a bus.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
But here we start to get a little kookie and
we get one line that are out of like a
Schwarzenegger movie, which they didn't do any of that really,
they had an original one liners like pop quiz, hot shot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
But now we get stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Was that one movie I don't know if it was
Commando where Schwarzenegger's holding that one dude over a cliff
to get information and then lets him go, and then
someone's like, what happened to Sully? I'll had to let
them go? Well, now we start getting dialogue like that.
It's almost like, uh, did you bring another writer in
to punch up the end?

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
I don't understand. It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
The dialogue is not quite the same.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Even like even this idea of like no, I'm gonna
like so so Sandra Bullock gets caught like by him,
and she makes make the money.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
He put a bomb he had conveniently needed. You know,
he knew he I guess it's supposed to be wicked smart,
so he's like, I better have a bomb vest for
but his plan was to get the money it out,
but he's still.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Okay, I guess you gotta have a backup on and
then yeah, and then he put Then he was like, oh,
but I'm gonna blow you up, and then nobody looks
for body parts. Then I'm like, yes they would. You've
already done this trope. You blew like you supposedly blew
yourself up right at the beginning after the elevator thing,
and people didn't look for you in any immediate were like, oh,
this motherfucker's still alive. Like no, you've already done this.

(01:13:22):
They're gonna still look for you because they not you know,
don't get fooled again type shit. So I was like,
it's just it was so good up until that point,
like have a fun takedown scene, do the thing, but
they just kept trying to give you these false finishes
to keep you engaged, like no, we're not done yet.
I'm like, no, you are done. You are done.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
On the subway, Dennis Hopper shoots the driver who I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Somehow it fucks.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Out, all the gunfire fucks up the brake. So now
the train can't stop. Subway train can't stop. But Jack
managed to get on, of course, and he's gotta vest
on handcuffed to a pole.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Sandrick Bullocks hand. Yeah, she's handcuffed the point.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
So they end up Dennis Hopper and Kenan will have
a fight on the roof and then we you know,
there's a moment where he's on the roof and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
There's a light.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Yeah, he has to duck and I'm like, of course
right away, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
That that's gonna come that's gonna come back. Yeah. Now,
Dennis Hopper with one hand holding the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Trigger for for for a little bit of time, he
was handedly beating the ship out of Keanu, but also
one handed.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
But also oh and with the hand that had the kIPS.
He keeps putting that trigger down multiple times throughout the movie.
So at the beginning of the movie with the elevator thing,
he has Harry, Yeah, he has like if I drop this,
we all blow up. But then at the end he
has Sandra Bullock in the vest If I drop this,
she blows up. He keeps putting it down, like multiple

(01:14:51):
times he put that trigger down, like while they were
in the subway car. He put it down Multian he
has a special button because he had yeah, because he
had the gun. Then he shooting up through the top.
He keeps putting the trigger down and then picking it
back up. I'm like, god, damn it. Like this goddamn
movie was like really good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Until yeah, they're fighting the train and Kannada looks up
and sees the red lights and develops a playing but
he pushes him up Tennis hopper head his head hits
the light, but oh no, right before he decapitate, decapitates
Dennis Hopper.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
I think Dennis Hoppers you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I'm like, I'm smarter, yeah, and Kna's like yeah, but
I'm taller.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
And then I'm like, so where that's that dialogue? Is
not you've not been Quippi. This a tire movie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
That's seneger uh comment, we're alone comment.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
But also doesn't make sense because wouldn't the taller guy
get his head taken off? Well I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Well now I'm taller because you just got your head.
Oh okay, right, And then when he gets back down
the train, I think Sander's like where is he? And
he's like something about he lost his head, he.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Lost his head. Where does writing come from? You got
all yeah, you got like eighties action movie all of
a sudden, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Yeah, jump in the car in the beginning, and the
quippie the stupid lines. Then like who wrote the those parts?
So it doesn't fit the rest of the movie. I
thought that was dumb. Of course, he can't stop the train.
He can't get the vest off of her, No big deal.
She's like she's got the cuffs off. She's like, I
don't have the key, yes, So I mean, what was

(01:16:33):
your plan anyway? Even he had keys, Like, they're gonna
jump out the back of this fast movie subway car.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Probably still gonna because nothing works on the subway car
except the throttle to make it go faster. He goes
some try to hit the emergency breke, Nop, it's got
bullet holes and it's not gonna work. What about the throttle?
Can you pull it back? Nope? Only goes forward. Yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna jump the tracks. And I was like, if

(01:16:58):
you're Sandra Bullock, if you're whatever name is, Annie, if
you're Annie in the situation, you go like, like an
hour ago, we just jumped a fifty foot that gap
with a bus on a unfinished I'm not doing this again,
and you're like, we're gonna jump the tracks and that
sounded somehow save us false.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Or she's like, yeah, man, we just jumped the bus.
We could jump, we could jump this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Let's go. I think I'm invincible. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Fast and Furious definitely watches me like, yeah, we can
keep doing it like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Let's make a movie. We keep doing ridiculous. Help them
in the space. Let's do that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Oh yeah, they don't jump it. The track switches and
they they end up running out of track right yeah,
which is hilarious. I was like, but it still stays
on track. You think it would crumble right away, Yeah,
but it still kind of continues where the track would
would be right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
We were watching it going like, well, you didn't need
to jump the track because there was no track.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
But you're still going in a straight line.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
It was it was somehow thirty workers that didn't realize.
No one radiodm going like hey guys, hey man, there's
a runaway train.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
They're like this, sitting there working like whoa shit, get over,
no taking like smoke rag like like you got like
how comes nobody? No city workers are communicating. What the
hell it was so good? Wait, no one told you
that a train was just barreling at you for no reason. Yeah,
we got a hijacking situation, a hostage situation, trains out

(01:18:35):
of control. Guys, get off the track. No, they're like
just down there like you go to watch football game night.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
If we learned anything about this movie, it's the airline
and someway communication just terrible. It de four didn't movies. No, No,
there's yeah, there's there's a bomb on a bus circling
the airport. But keeping about your business.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Hey, some way, guy, No, get that goddamn trackne we're on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
We're behind track on the Clark Man keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
But it it burst out, I guess the end.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Of the line street. It's the end of the line.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
It burst out the street because he gets the he
gets the bomb undetonated from the trigger.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Yeah. So then it's just them trying to survive another crash. Ye,
and they did you know?

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
And then this subway burst out of a concrete wall
and there's people around, and all'se the people do is
like hawk, They're like they gawk, they look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
And then when they see Jack and Annie.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Like like smiling and and like kissing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Yeah, everybody's like a nine one one. It was so
weird that people were like, like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Why is everybody okay that a subway car just burst
through this concrete wall and it's just oh, look hot guy,
hot chick making out let's point and giggle like yeah,
you know, you know. They're like, oh, it's I heard about.
It's all good, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
They're both hot. We don't need nae on one. They're hot.
Oh okay, thank you, thank you. Oh yeah, never mind,
never mind, they're both hot. They're going to make it.
They're going to make it. They're not inciliary characters. Good.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
There is a part of the movie where Dennis Hopper
has he has his money, he opens up in the
blue die pack hits him. Yeah, he's like my money, Like,
but you should you're so smart, do you?

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
You should have known they were going to put die
packs in it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Anyway, for as smart as smart as he was, there
were some dumb moments like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I said that was it was just that last like
fifteen to twenty minutes are like, god, damn it, you
were this is a tight believable, like you look past
some shit believable movie and you just you just kept
pushing for a false It was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
It was a It was a lot of fun and
despite some of the things that I had to laugh
at and I thought was stupid, and like I wrote
that dialogue, it was good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
And I really think Keanu carried it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Sure, he he looked badass, he looked in great shape,
he looked like an action start.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
And again, Sandra Bullock, perfect choice.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
She nailed it as this person that had to just
she's like jumping the hot seat and drive that bus.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
And she gave a performance when mostly she didn't she.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Just had to sit steers, she still was giving a
great performance.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
She's just such a good girl, next door type person. Yeah,
it it worked so well. I love the cast of
characters on the bus because this is where we were.
We're on a bus for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
You know, we we'll cut to the chief or Harry.
But the cast of characters on the bus had to
carry just a little bit of the comedy the levity. Yeah,
like even when the nerdy guy from Ferris Bueller when
they got the airports, like oh airport and it was like what, oh,
I mean, I've already seen the airport. It was such

(01:21:50):
a stupid So yeah, it was a great throwaway. But
even at the end when they were getting people off
the bus, uh, Jack Gantur was like, come on, even
helped him, like became because of this situation that became friends.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Bonded through this tragedy type thing. Yeah, it really was tight. Also,
it looked good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Yeah, but the practical explosions look good, cinematography looked good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
It was really a solid movie. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
I'm so solid. Some executive was like, hey, let's let's
make Speed too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
I never watched too because I and I looked what
I knew there was something to boat, right, But I
love that it's called cruise control because I guess it's
a cruise. But I'm like, it's a boat. There's no crew,
like god. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
And Keanu was smart enough to say no, right, I'm
assuming they paid Sandra so much money, so much mounch.
She's like, fine, I'll do it. And some guy was
Jason Patrick was at least they didn't call it was
like he was like Jason Shaw or something, or at
least they didn't try to say no, this is it's
still Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Yeah. At least they didn't try to like replace Keanu. Yeah,
it was. I did see that, and I was like,
because also, like, oh, if you're on a cruiser, what's
stopping you from going fast on the ocean except a
storm whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Something the controls are putting it right at this it
was going to run ashore and just destroy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
We need to do uh, I was. I was like,
we should do sequel September this year, and maybe I'll
pick a cruise control man. We should do see, we
should pick the shittiest sequels. I'm in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Sequel Summer, yeah, August, September.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Yeah, sequel to Timber. We got August, then we got
sequel Scetember, and then a horror movie sequels we can
find this year. I'll remember that October. I wanted to
do a Horrors again this year because last year I
completely forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah, Like if it wouldn't
be for the end of this movie, I would give
it like a nine and a half nine. Yeah, I
come up there, I got it like seven eight. It's

(01:24:00):
I mean, it was enjoyable. Two eyes open. She watched
the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
I'm gonna go nine point five because it's solid, it's tight,
there's things you can laugh at and make fun of.
But it's so much fun. Yeah, uh, this is just
a fun movie. I haven't seen it for a while.
I think it holds up.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Oh yeah, it was definitely. I enjoyed it. It was
I just got disappointed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
There's a reason Kan everybody loves him. He really is
just on screen, he's just he's just a likable dude.
And in real life from what I hear, yeah, he's
a fucking awesome dude.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
From what you hear. Yeah, but I feel like it's
the internet, so who knows what's true true, But I
want to believe it. I want to believe. I'm going
to believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Yeah, I'm going to believe that he is the ying,
It's the goal, is the Yang.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Those two are complete opposites. I'm going to take the
red pill and say believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Okay, Mitya, I'm gonna believe it. So when he got next,
all right. This is a tough one at anytime. I
find no is tough picking a movie. It's even tougher
when you see it on tube and you're like, will
it even be that? But I'm like, all right, I
still I still want to do a staalone movie. I

(01:25:12):
was thinking about a Rambo one tank going cash. Yeah,
but that's hard to find. I know, you almost have
to go buy a Blu ray and we shook because
that's a fun one. O.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
But on two b is uh has two big eighties
and nineties swool jacked up dudes in a movie together.
Universal Soldier okay, brings Van Dam and now my brain
just far off Dolf Longern together as what like basically

(01:25:46):
zombie soldiers. Oh yeah, they brought back from the dead
to be the best soldiers. There you go, that's how
good it isn't let's do it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
I thought you said Stallone. No, Sloan's not in that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
No, no, no, I wanted Staloon. But as I got
looking on two be for things I saw they had that.
I was like, you know what, that's two of the
icons together.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
All right, yeah cool, I mean we can do Stillon
whatever you want, man, it's your pick.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Universal Soldier all right, okay, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
What else we were good?

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Oh yeah, emails Swallow Cinema gmail dot com if you
have ideas, especially for sequel September.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Yeah, if you got something, and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Let's see any other recommendations. Uh, like us, Give us
a rating, follow, send us a message Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
That's whole cinema. Yep, do all the things, yes, up,
do it? Do it all right? That's it. And what
I guess how do we end it? Keep lifting out
weight bitches, I am

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