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Jason came to Seattle and it was such a necessary break. It can be hard to break away from the titles and responsibilities of everyday life, but it's important to have a community where you can just be yourself.

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(00:01):
I feel like everybody's gangster until there'sa man that goes a pretty girl like
your hair, and then thank youwhen I tell you I walked so much
faster. I was jog cold.I wasn't block and a half away,

(00:25):
and I was just I didn't know. I didn't look because I saw him.
Oh, I don't even have myglasses in here. Oh okay.
So he had the like you knowhow people paint the figurines and they put
the magnifying glasses on. Yeah,that's what he had to type on his
phone to dial a number to makea phone call. He put them back

(00:47):
up and then was talking on thephone and it was like, hey,
pretty girl, I like your hair. And I was like, I gotta
go, getta gotta gold. What'scoming out of here? I am out
of here. First of all,sir, I am in a shower.
Bun um No, No, Ihaven't even took my hair out of his
shower. Bun it stays. It'sjust gonna stay. No. Please,

(01:14):
I have nothing to say to thatbecause I have no hair, So I
don't get you've been cat called before. Look, somebody, I was waiting
for the bus to go to work. Slash school once and a lady walked
past me. She was probably prostitute. She was like, m you look

(01:36):
like a pint. I think that'sthe closest that I've come to being cat
called. Yeah, that was aweird morning. Then I had to go
teach that morning. Um, andit made me so self conscious. I
was literally just standing waiting for thebus and your output? Was it?

(01:57):
The height? Was it? Like? Did I have my hair slipped back?
When I had hair? Is thatit? What was it? I
was wearing glasses. I don't wearjewelry. It was before the Apple Watch
came out. Wasn't wearing that?I literally just had a backpack. I
think the backpack may have had alittle hole on the bottom of it,
because you know I use backpacks hard. Um. It made me question like,

(02:23):
okay, one, who's who's runningher her her daddy day business?
Yeah, who's having her business?And why did I seem to portray that
image? So no, I don'tget cat called. I get I think
maybe it was a warning like,hey, be wary, people might see

(02:46):
you as a pamper. But howwould that like were you walking with like
a I was literally standing remember wherethat bus stop was on Jay Street by
Mills Diner underneath the overpass the bustI think get rid of I was standing
at that bus stop. I actuallymoved out of her way. I stepped
like back into the parking lot becauseI didn't want to. I didn't want

(03:08):
to stand in a way. Itry not to stand in the want to
engage, Yeah, because then youknow how not to engage. Yeah.
Yeah, I tend to make shutup. I tend to, especially when
women are walking towards me. Iback out of the way because I realize
I am tall as crap and I'mlanky, so I look like the tall

(03:31):
man like or slender man. Sorry, I can get very imposing sometimes,
Yes, yeah, I can havethat effects. So I tend to back
away, especially like when I'm talkingto people, except for you, because
I want to stand over you whenI talk to you, to remind you
because you are insistent that, hey, I'm average. It's for a woman.

(03:52):
I am having because you know thisaverage for a woman five seven is
average? Shouldn't you do the stingerthing or whatever? Were you and what
this is and what we're what's goingon? Let's change the subject. Hey,
everybody, welcome to another episode totake a Sace podcast. I am
your Hostly I joined this week byJason. Hello, Hello, Hello,

(04:13):
welcome back, Welcome back. It'sbeen a minute, it as it's been
some time. It's been probably withthree or four weeks. Has it been
three weeks? It has been threeweeks, yeah, because I'm not even
sure we recorded the week that Icame out there, right, Nope,
So yeah, it's probably close toa month almost. Yeah. How how
was your Seattle trip? Oh mygod, it was horrible. This lady

(04:38):
kept following me around. She keptcalling me like, oh, I get
ot fork at this time. Here'show you get into my building? Maybe
you really was just like, soif I come to your building, how
do I how do I get inside? How do I let them know that
I'm here to The trip was great. I was just telling you before we
started how like I was going throughmy own stuff. It's been a rough

(05:00):
I'm gonna say two years because I'lltake it back to the pandemic. That's
when everything The year before the pandemic, my mom passed, so that was
already a rough start. That Iwas supposed to go to Disneyland. We
went to my aunt's feweral instead,put that into perspective. Okay, so
the two past two years have beenrough. The trip was very necessary.

(05:23):
It was fun. It was alot of fun, but it was also
me sort of balancing. Like,Okay, I realized that just going somewhere
isn't going to fix the way thatI'm feeling. But it was a really
good friend fix if that makes sense. Like, yeah, I didn't realize
I need to see my friend.Don't get all chokey and stuff lea because

(05:46):
I have more stuff to say too. No, even when my voice is
cracked, I'm not crying, youguys, Even like when I called my
mom. When I called my momat the airport after we left or after
I left, I was um one. I was careful not to have my
bitterness, but because usually when Ileave places, I get a hardness to

(06:09):
me where I get really annoyed withpeople so that I don't get sad.
I didn't do that on the lastday. But when I called my mom
from the airport, Um, Iwas angry in the airport because it was
crowded, and I realized I donot like see tag at all. Yeah,
especially coming from Sacramento. I didn'trealize Sacramento I had such a nice

(06:30):
airport compared to I think it's yeah, by comparison, Yeah, it's not
all like the size of my roomfor just the southwest waiting area. UM,
tell me I'm wrong. Maybe maybethe living room. But um.

(06:50):
When I call my mom, shewas like, UM, didlia miss you
was lea sad when he left?Yeah? I was too, Yeah,
yeah I was. I was reallysad. I was. We were sad.
No, we didn't cry in frontof each other anything. But it's
it's okay, that's fine. She'slike, yeah, it's I know,
she's excited to see I was like, yeah, it's excited to see her.
So it was a good trip.It's a good trip. It was

(07:15):
like so for me, I thinkthat because I hadn't seen you in what
since nineteen for the pandemic, andso it's like it's been and then the
pandemic just made it seem like likeI'm still processing twenty twenty. Yeah,
like still unraveling a lot of what'sgoing on in twenty twenty Like this,

(07:36):
it's oh, it's a lot,like we went from lockdown to protest brutality,
to battle fatigue to now now theinsurrection. The insurrection the emotional imbalance,
the press, impeachments, it's ohmy god, Like there's a lot

(08:00):
the rise in social media of justlike everybody living in social media and not
like in not realizing the consequences ofit, everything being a moment instead of
being a moment. Yes, No, I absolutely absolutely agree, and just
like learning to process, being likeprocess what normal is? Yeah, And

(08:24):
I think that this trip felt likeI was getting back to reality, back
to normal, because we didn't reallyhave like a solid plan of what was
happening either day. I know youwere stressing initially like before, like Okay,
what do you want to do onthis day? What do you want
to do on this And I knowthat that's how you are because you like

(08:45):
you. I didn't want you tofeel like you have to take care of
me, but I also wanted itto be a trip where it was like
um, which that's honestly one ofmy things that I have to work on
is letting people take care of me. Even this past weekend with my um
when I was visiting my mom,I kept trying to take care of first
year, like Jason, you don'thave to protect me, even just like
her standing their water and plants.I was like, oh I can do

(09:05):
that. Oh I can clean thiswhere I can do this, you don't
have to protect me. I'm like, oh okay, fine, um,
because you realized I never went toyour hotel. You always came to my
place, right, because I waslike, I can meet you up the
hotel. You no, no,no, I can. I can.
I've walked around, I can giveto your place. Yeah, And it
didn't make sense for me for youto come up and then us to walk
back down because everything we were doingwas near you by the water. So

(09:30):
for me it was like logically,okay, I can find my way to
I know to follow the science ofpipe place and I'll find you. So
like yeah, but yeah, Iwanted to go into it with you,
not so much of like trying totake care of me and stuff and trying
to um, not really take controlof the trip, but feeling like you

(09:52):
had to like, oh I livehere now. After acted it's a tour
guide because I knew there was stuffthat you hadn't seen yet and stuff that
I haven't seen yet. I knewthere was enough for us to just sort
of have a general idea of whatwe wanted to do. And just go
with the flow, which is howwe ended up by the stadium, and
that is true, which worked out. It was a lot of walking.
It was so much walk and thatthat uphill right, And normally I've lived

(10:16):
in Seattle long enough to like knowhow to avoid inclines, but that's this
particular incline. It snuck up likeit was very progressive until it wasn't.
It was very immediate, just likewe're going into a slope right now,
and uh, it's going to bevery steep. It was. It was,

(10:39):
it was gradual, and it justwasn't. And then it just flattened
out and it's like, oh,kind of winded, Like we probably should
have just took some stairs if theyhad them. At least we know what
to expect with the stairs. Butif we hadn't done that, we wouldn't
end up at that choice shop andrealized that, um, we didn't want
to buy anything from that toy store. I mean, that Beyonce character that

(11:01):
somebody drew was not Beyonce. Itwas an ambiguous brown lady with hair.
Honestly, it looked like Shakira.She looked like she did look like Shakira
or Samantha Mamba. Maybe I don'tknow who Samantha Momba is. You google
it, I won't. I haverevolved to not google everything that I want

(11:24):
to know the answer too, becausethere's just some things I don't need to
know the answer to. Its stuffthat I talk about. I've gone this
long without knowing who she is.I think I can go a little bit
longer. She looks like a lovinghip hop character. Sorry, I'm looking
at the cover right now. Um, it looks like a love and hip
hop character. I can I canbuy that. Yes, So I think

(11:46):
initially I was kind of concerned becauseI'm just like, well, I don't
get off four till three, butthen it's still daylight until eight or nine
o'clock, so mostly like nine,and so I'm like, you know,
we still have six hours plenty oftime. You don't really eat, you
know, during the day that muchanyway, so we can find something you
do and then go eat blah blahblah. So you know, just touring

(12:07):
around different places, walking around,checking out different things, being able to
like check out the journal, noboundary. Shout out to them because they
have good quality stuff. Being ableto get a journal and getting you know,
going to different shops, especially thetea shop. I just went there
and got like a bunch of spices. I'm gonna order some more of the

(12:31):
Emerald Princess that I got because Itold you I was doing the like I
drink. The tea is like acold brew instead, and it doesn't have
the bitterness, especially if you don'tlike tea. Cold brewed instead, and
then it doesn't have the bitterness andyou can warm it up if you want,
just to tip. But the EmeraldPrincess tastes so good, no sweet

(12:52):
or anything. It's so fragrant,fragrant either work, so fragrant and m
and aromatic. It's so good.And I have to be careful because I
don't want to drink at all.See, I just got the I got
the mango, the white peony.I got the peach, ambrosia and the

(13:16):
vanilla. Um, I mix itwith the mango. Okay, it's so
good. Not to order that one. It's so good. But I also
got like the smoke that apple woodsmoked salt. I put that off some
steak. Who did what? Now? Who did good? Who did what?

(13:39):
So? Um? I think onething that really like, regardless of
like all the places that we didend up going to, because I think
we went to even more places thanI thought we would um, which was
which was great. It was justthe it was just living in the moment,

(14:00):
just we're just we're just talking andjust like, hey, should we
turn left? I think we shouldturn left. Let's go ahead, turn
left a candy store? Are wegoing handy store? We're absolutely going into
candy store. Jason, make sureyou don't engage. Why what's up?
Just don't engage with these guys becausethey're just gonna try to sell you a
CD. What does Jason do?Okay, Leah, I heard you.

(14:20):
I heard what you said. Leah. I heard what you said. Leah
and Jason, all six foot fiveof him walking by me. Don't engage,
Jason, would you say, sir, let me lean? No,
no, no, no, nono to this conversation. The scene right,

(14:43):
easy target. You have an averageright average height, not average white
woman. A woman can blend intoa crowd and get lost. It was
not crowded. I stand out,it was not batman and stepped in front
of me. He did, okay, I will give you in front of
this. He stepped in front ofme and stood did you sigh step.

(15:11):
No. I thought about it,and I thought about it. It was
I thought it would be easier,Okay, let me engage in and just
say, oh, yeah, Idon't have any cash. I forgot that
people are like, oh yeah nmoa street hustler, that they will take
my venmo or something like no what, No, it's a cash only thing

(15:35):
because if I give you my venmore, you're gonna have my screen name.
You probably gonna request more money fromme. So, yes, I engaged.
I own it. I didn't wantto engage the first day. I
didn't want to the second day,Yeah, outside stepped that time. I
kept walking. I faked a phonecall. So literally I have I have

(16:00):
mastered the keep walking. I've masteredthat absolutely, turn around. There's nothing
that you have for me. Becauseeven when they were like, oh,
sister, sister, you know,coming come and help me, they're like,
oh, she ain't a sister,she ain't a sister. I'm not
today. I'm good at it ifyou're station if they're stationary, but if
there are dynamic and stuff, myeyes are pulled to it. No,

(16:25):
So I don't know. I thinkI think I'm desensitized to it because they
there's always panhandlers everywhere, and it'sfunny because they never play their music.
They they're out there every time Igo walking every time. I don't know
if this is their full time jobor how much money they make from it,
but there out there that I wasout there, and I was only

(16:49):
there on weekdays, Like that's sayingsomething like, come on, this is
their full time job there slanging theseCDs, but you never plays They're kinds
of music up. I kind ofwanted to ask them, like, hey,
play something for me, or doyou have do you have Spotify?
Download this? Download this? ReaNo, no, you played, pull

(17:11):
out your phone, use your battery. I'm a tourist, don't. I'm
not wasting my battery, right,I mean, I just want you to
not engage though. And it's aIt was a CD, wasn't it.
It was a CD. It wasn't. I don't want a CD player anymore?
Really I have one? Maybe,No, I don't. Oh,

(17:34):
I don't have any computers with CDplayers anymore. My old Mac has one.
Jordan has his old Mac that haslike so many dents in it.
Oh my god, it has aCD player in it. And that's our
little soldier that will like transfer musiclike through that and then use the USB
courts and stuff to transfer it todart to the updated ones. Yeah,

(17:56):
it's like, oh, what isthis, I'm going back to Egypt to
the Pyramid. But yeah, itfelt like a very it was very easy
going. Like even with the stuffthat I had going on where I was
not feeling like one hundred percent whereI was, it was good that you
were there because I feel like ifI just went to any other city with

(18:17):
no one that was like almost holdingme accountable or not even holding me accountable
anybody else that was sort of like, yeah, keeping me on track with
making sure I'm getting out and notjust staying in the hotel room. Then
I would have just stayed in thehotel room and stayed in that vicinity instead
of sort of branching out and stuffwith the we went. We went to

(18:40):
Brisbane on the ferry and it wasit was a good time, except for
that one candy store that wasn't It'snot going to get any starts from me.
We went to Bainbridge Island. That'swhat I say. For the record.
If she says Brisbane again, I'mnot going to engage. Oh,

(19:02):
now set Hustler. Yeah, Bainbridge. That was like. I was overwhelmed
a little bit by the city atfirst, because I haven't even been downtown
in um Sacramento in a really longtime. But um, once we got
to oh my god, how areyou making me forget the name of the
place Bainbridge, I was like,Okay, this is why I needed to

(19:26):
come out here, because it waslike the greenery it was. There was
enough happening where it was kind ofbustling and stuff, but it didn't feel
over stimulating. It was sure.That was like the ride over was cool.
The even waiting for the fairy andstuff was cool. Um yeah,

(19:51):
yeah, waiting for the fairy toget there was cool. Waiting to come
back not so much because the faerywas what an hour and a half later
hour we stood there. We gotthere early for the four forty five to
get there for the four forty five, and we didn't leave on the fourty
forty five ferry until five six sixso five something like that. We we

(20:14):
boarded at five fifty yeah, andwe didn't lead to six o five.
Oh that was That was a lot. But I did enjoy going to beat
books. Yeah, Um, likejust being in the bookstore and like one
of the highlights, honestly, wasgoing was like after getting the ice cream,
was um going to the um themuseum? No, the ah,

(20:40):
the crystal shop. Crystal shop,That's what it thought, going to the
crystal shop and like immediately feeling calm, so for contract the way did this
happen? We um crossed the street. I think we went to the the
toy store and then the candy shop. That candy. Yeah, we were
in the toy store for a while. Yeah. Yeah, we were in

(21:00):
the toy store for a little while. We were talking about like your your
family getting together for Thanksgiving and stuff, and how excited your mom must be
for that and how just like Iwas getting chills just imagining how excited your
mom was. I think they're alllike super excited for Thanksgiving, not even
joking, Like I'm excited for youguys. We're like there we have I'm

(21:21):
still getting like, um tax stages. Make sure we play x y Z
game? Who I have another gamethat we can play? Are you ordering
the inflatable tent? I sent?I sent the picture out to the siblings,
and I'm gonna let them. I'mgonna ask them if they're gonna if
they want to go in on it, Okay, good yeah um so yeah,
So we went to the toy store. Then we saw this little um

(21:42):
candy shop. It looked really chicand stuff from the outite, yeah,
a black storefront. The insight wasreally dark interior and stuff. We walk
in. We walk in the oneof the clerks, they're talking to each
other. Some of the clerks guywalks right past us, doesn't even look
at it. People from behind thecounter they look at us. We sort

(22:03):
of mill about and stuff. Wewalked towards the counter a little bit.
I'm standing at the count I'm like, oh, those look really good.
The person behind the counter never turnedaround. She was right in front of
me, and I'm looking at neverturned around. And the other two the
other two guys are just like sowe were talking about last wekend and then
last Weeken on the other side.So Leah looks at me, She's like,
do we just walk in? Arewe invisible? It's like no,

(22:26):
I don't think so. You seeme though, right like we didn't,
like, yeah, I think sosee these hands see yeah. So we
just say okay, yeah, rightright, okay, just making sure,
and we just turned around and walkout. I could tell Leah was already
feeling a little that set the tonelbecause it's like, okay, yes,
so we're doing that here. Okay. So then we go into like,

(22:49):
first we see the little strawberry frogthing that's sitting outside the place. I'm
like, oh, that's a cutelittle frog. We see the pet shop,
um with all the little dog stuff. Sorry something that no, he
didn't want to do anything. Thenwe see the crystal shop. I'm like,
okay, we have to go in. I was pulled to it,
and Lee it was like, Idon't know why I was pulled to this

(23:11):
crystal. She walked immediately to likea purple crystal or something. Right,
you immediately walked towards it. You'reasking me like, okay, I'm sifting
through the crystals and stuff. Well, first you, um, thank the
lady. You're like, thank youfor acknowledging us, because as soon as
we walked in, the lady said, hi, how are you guys doing?
Let me know if you have anyquestions about anything. Lee is like,

(23:32):
thank you for acknowledging us. Becausethe choice or the candy store we
just went to. We walked inand nobody said anything to us. The
lady apologizes on their behalf. Shetells us how they like to make people
feel welcome and stuff, so don'tever feel like we aren't welcome there.
We're like, okay, cool.I like the vibe of this place.
Lady has tattoos and stuff. Ialready feel comfortable with her because she's showing

(23:53):
her tattoos. I feel good rightyet right, so um, I start
going through the crystals and stuff andjust feeling them, and I start picking
out like, Okay, this feelsgood. Leah's like, what am I
looking for exactly? I'm like,just that color was you were drawn to
that color? Just sift through them, see what feels right. And you're

(24:15):
like sifting through me like I don'tknow what supposed to feel, and then
you're like, oh, I feelcalm, like oh that's that might be
the one, like that might bethe energy. But it was weird,
like sifting through all of them.I went through for the crystals that I
got, I got three. Igot one from my mom, one from

(24:36):
an older brother, and one formyself, and each one I went through
and just sort of envisioned them andjust like Okay, yeah, this will
feel good from my mom. Thiswill feel good for t J. This
is a nice bulky one for him. He's one of the solid rock people
of our family, like the Foundationalbut that I plan on going back to
that shop, that crystal shop,between that place and the the um Beats

(25:02):
Books. Yeah, I'm going back. I'm going back there too. And
I'm really excited because, um,I think that we didn't rush through it,
which is great, which is anotherI think that's another as I'm older,
As I'm getting older, it's likelearning to experience it as it comes

(25:25):
and not just trying to rush tothe rush of the destination. So just
being on the ferry, seeing thewater filling the wind because that wind was
who that wind was strong, Likewe hit like two pockets of just like
strong winds, and so it's likea least it was a lot. Um,
I almost lost my headphones and um, and you know getting off the

(25:52):
ferry, you know, getting throughthe crowd and then being able to just
like, oh is that a store, Oh this is a bookstore. Do
you want to got to the bookstore? Of course, we're going into the
bookstore. Seeing a shop with likethe natural remedies and all that kind of
stuff. Um, because you trieda different Reese's cup, right, yeah,
the UM yeah, yeah it's prettygood actually, and going to different

(26:18):
bookstores checking out all the puzzles andall the books are on display, the
new books that are coming out,the use books. UM, I got
a few books and UM, justbeing able to just oh, I want
to I want to check out thiswithout feeling like I'm I'm here for an
appointment. I have to do thisthing, and then I'm immediately going home
because we end up going to themuseum. We ended up going to multiple

(26:38):
toy stores, we have amform intomultiple bookstores. We have the tacos and
nachos and stuff. We actually satthere for like thirty minutes sitting outside,
Oh my gosh. And then wegot ice cream up or I got hot
scream after and just being able toum and then you then you were able
to like get some really good picturesin UM. And then I think the
last day, even though it waslike bittersweet, right, the last day

(27:03):
was probably one of my favorites ofjust like the tide was low enough for
us to go to the water exactlyhow we did last time when Jordan was
there too, Like the tide waslow when we went that time. Yeah,
it was like we actually, Imean the only little disturbing thing was
like the crab shells. I stilldon't understand that. Like I keep scrolling

(27:23):
through my pictures and I'm like shouldI post them? But I don't know
what they mean. It's like Iwould just be like, can somebody please
tell me? What do the whatdoes this mean? Because then we found
a claw randomly, but they weremostly just crab shells or pieces of the
crabs, and they're like there weresome big ones, there were some small
ones and were just like people,what happened? Where are the insides?

(27:44):
For one thing? I know theseagulls probably got them, but they don't.
It doesn't look like they were everthere. No, And so it
was just like and then just standingat the water, like not worrying about
like rushing back because even the shell. Even though the shuttle was like kind
of crowded and some of the placeswe went to had a little bit more

(28:04):
people, it was just still likeit felt easy. Yeah it felt good
for me too, because you know, I have pandemic anxiety, so I
have like that hesitance to get outand do stuff, but like, this
is the biggest crowd that I've beenaround, other than Disneyland, which is

(28:25):
a different type of big crowd.But like try getting on the plane and
stuff and trusting like, Okay,I'm doing my part so that I'm protecting
myself and I could still enjoy myself. That was huge for me. And
even like feeling like Okay, I'mput on a mask on here, I'm
not gonna wear it here, itdidn't feel like I was ever being judged
by anyone for wearing a mask,where like with certain people that I've been

(28:48):
around, yeah there's like why youwearing a mask type thing. It's like,
okay, I'm doing me over here, right. So it just honestly,
it just felt like you said thatlast day, it was probably one
of the Um, I can't evensay it was like the best, one
of the best days because it wasonly three days. Each day had something

(29:10):
that was really memorable. Even thefirst day me going accidentally going twenty two
hours without eating. Um, thatwas completely on accident. I don't eat
before I get on planes. Itotally of that. Um, there's a
reason for that. Uh. Ifeel I feel like getting getting reacquainted or

(29:38):
like reconnected physically was more important thanlike anything else we had going on.
Yea, And it was just itwas just very necessary. And I'm not
gonna get emotional because it was nonot doing it. Yeah, I earned

(30:03):
these two. I'm just fine.So yeah, I mean, of course,
of course your mom was right,like, of course we needed to
see each other. It had beenlike three years since we spent time together,
probably the longest. That's the longestthat we've gone as friends without seeing
each other, right, Yeah,because normally I would come to California.
Um, before you came into atleast every it was probably twenty So you

(30:30):
came in twenty nineteen. I waseither there twenty seventeen or twenty Yes,
because you met Brittany's boyfriend that year, right, yeah, in twenty seventeen.
Yees. So it and you've onlybeen out of the US or not
the US. Out of the US, yes, out of California. Look
a you're talking about going to Brisbane. I have I can have my Yes,

(30:55):
was a good trip. Yeah,so I think this was the longest
that we have gone without physically seeingeach other. Yeah, it's I think
that this it was a very necessaryreconnection. And it did make me really
emotional after you left, because itwas just like it was almost like I

(31:18):
was fulfilled and then like realize,like you're you're gone. It's like the
build up, it's like, ohmy god, we're it's this is it?
And then it was so fast.It was like because even when we
were sitting and watching TV, umwatching it from did you did you ever
find it? By the way,I can't. I can't season two.
What's coming out there? They justgreenlit season two. They don't have a

(31:42):
big thing. That's the first one. I hope the first one goes on
some streaming platform soon on Epics.I'm it's only on Epics. Yeah,
yeah, you can get the freefree trial and watch and binge watch it.
But then it would make more sensefor me to wait until the full

(32:02):
second season comes out and watch bothof them at once. But then if
I don't do that, I wouldhave behind it. I have a bunch
of email addresses though, so Ican bunch of credit cards too. Oh
my gosh, Oh my gosh.Just talking about gaming the system. But
I feel like, you know,even watching even watching TV and just just

(32:23):
being able to share in that itwas like, there's something about having a
friend that you don't have to performfor. Yeah, like we don't have
to. We just be around eachother. I am just lea. I
don't have a title. I don'thave a responsibility. I don't have you

(32:47):
know, I'm not in charge ofit. Like I can just be Leah.
You kept saying, like even whenwe were there watching the show and
stuff, you were like, youwant some water or something? Do you
want something that's not gonna like,dude, just sit down, It's fine,
I'm fine, don't worry about me. But first of all, first
of all, let's let's not actlike you don't do that when I come
to your place. Okay, let'slet's not act like I do and you
do the same thing. I'm like, because I know if I know,

(33:10):
if I want some as many timeI've been to your place, if I
want some water, I know whereto go get in you where You're like,
no, it's cool, I'm fine. You make sandwiches in our place,
and so we got you turned ontothem the olive oil mayonnaise, right,
that was yeah, and that's reallygood. Not even gonna like the
crack pepper turkey. Oh, itwas that whole situation was a new experience

(33:32):
for me. But since then,I haven't making some bum sandwiches. I'm
not gonna lie my older brother,Ja. He knows I'm extra him.
Like when we're at my mom's houseand we're having hot dogs or something,
I don't boil hot dogs. Idon't. I don't. I cut them
down the middle, split them inhalf. I saw tell them in olive

(33:54):
oil, Yes, I saw tellthem. And I'll boy with a little
bit of chili powder and a littlebit of peprika to add the flavor.
And now my family does not boilhot dogs anymore because I'm actually I'm I'm
of the mind that if I'm gonnamake something, I'm gonna enjoy it.

(34:14):
If I'm gonna make chocolate chips,I'm gonna make salted caramel chocolate chips.
That's why I happened. That's whyI got chocolate chips sitting up in the
cabinet, because I don't feel likegonna through aut them steps. Oh my
gosh, So I'm an extra um. So I'm sorry that I inflicted that
extra nous of the mayonnaise and theturkey on you, because I know those

(34:35):
things aren't cheap. Let me,let me, let me explain to you.
We're gonna take a tangent real quick, because I need to explain to
you how my sandwich game has changedsince then, since the time that I
went to your house. I don'teven remember what bread it was. What
bread was it was. It wasn'tsour though, I don't think, no,
it wasn't sour though. It wasprobably the country time white bread.

(34:59):
So I tell toasted a toasted thebread, which I don't typically do,
but I have a lightly toasted becausethey're like panines. I had the cracked
pepper turkey. I had the oliveoil Mayo best foods um and I think
I put pepper on it with Harvardicheese. And that's the first time I've

(35:22):
had Havarti cheese. That's when we'reeating cheese at that point. Yeah,
drink can't there anymore either. Ohmy gosh, it's so seond he's not
supposed to and this doesn't mean hedoesn't, So it's okay. It's okay.
I don't have to deal with thisHavardi cheese. So I've had so
then it was it was Fharti cheese. And spinach because you all you said

(35:45):
that you don't like the crunch ofromaine lettuce, so you use spinach because
it's less of a crunch. Iwas like, well, my bread is
toasted, so I still have acrunch. It's fine, and baby spinach
is great for you too. Okay. So since then, my nephews will
call me to ask me for theingredients of the sandwiches that I make for

(36:07):
them, and they asked me howto put it together, and when they
then when they make it, they'llstill tell Jocelyn, Yeah, but it's
not like bo yeah, yeah,this is this is how I make my
sandwiches. First of all, Igo to the deli counter. Um,
Public's has a monopoly on boar's head, so I have to go to a
boar's head deli out here. Umbecause they don't have it at the grocery

(36:29):
stores. So I get sometimes theyget a new meat, but it depends,
So I do pit crap. Ido typically spicy turkey or spicy chicken.
Um. I don't really do ham. And then um, actually I
don't do ham at all. Idon't really like ham that much. Um,
so I'll do like um um alohapineapple turkey or um pitcraft turkey.

(36:57):
Um jerk chicken, um cajun chicken. Um, there was a really spicy
plebano chicken, plebono turkey. Andthen I'll get Havardi cheese probolone cheese.
I did Monster once. I didn'treally care for Monster. But when I
put Monster with Chipole Guda, nono, no, I put a Vardie
with Chipole Guda, don't know Iwould have did to me? So then

(37:21):
um and then I uh, thenI get my pickles, my olive oil,
my olive oil, mao. OrI get aoli, the garlic,
um, the garlic and herboli.Or I if there's a new one,
I'll try a new one. Andif we're back up, I'll have saracha
mayo, just to add a littlespice, just a little kid. Yeah,

(37:43):
so top my sandwiches. How youmake a bow sandwich? You get
bread. You have to get breadfrom the bakery. Do not get bread
from the aisles. You need yourfresh bread, like, make sure it
was baked that day. I tapicallydo Italian. Or if you're feeling um,

(38:06):
if you're feeling a little bit more, you want a more complex taste.
Um, I would do sour dough, but I typically do Italian because
Italian is a little bit softer,so when you toast it, it's a
little bit more forgiving. Yeah,so it's not it won't like break apart.

(38:29):
So I'm feeling the effects. Oh, the roof of your mouth is
just up. Just yeah, Iknew that it was a mistake. So
you start off with laying out yourmeats and your cheese. Is to figure
out what you want to put wear. If you're using the Italian bread,
you toast your Italian bread on oneside lightly so that it's like just a

(38:50):
little bit tan. You don't wantto get it any darker than Jason.
Then you take it out of itand then over you flip it over and
you toast it um just for likethirty seconds, and then you put your
cheese. You put your cheese onso that you're so that you're toasted on.
Your cheese is toasted on the bread, so it's just like nice and

(39:10):
melty. Then you then now you'reready to assemble the sandwich. You got
your cheese. Now you put yourmeats on the other side. In between
your cheese and your meat, You'regonna put your pickles always get coloss In
pickles. Do not get any otherbecause of elastic is not the same mount
all of it is not the same. You want Colossan sandwich pickles and those

(39:34):
pickles they're nice and crunchy enough.You have your romaine lettuce, or if
there's any coali outbreak, get spinach. Um. I just have to deal
with that. Like last week itwas it was not the business. I
had to throw away all my salad. So you're serious. That's one of
the reasons why I stopped buying romaine, which because they would always have some

(39:59):
like I. I looked because Iwas like, why am I feeling so?
And then I looked it up andit was like, Wendy stop selling
the stop take away all the romainelettuce. Because multiple states have reported E
Coli outbreak for romaine lettuce, whyis it still being sold in the stores.
Look, you stop your Shenanigans rightnow, so you use butter lettuce

(40:20):
as a backup, but because it'sless messy than having spinach. Okay,
So then you have your pick youhave your you have on one side of
the bread, you have your meat, you have your pickles, you have
your butter lettuce or your spinach.Right then on the cheese side, you

(40:42):
are putting your sauces. You justwant enough to get the bread a little
bit moist. So if you doyour saracha mayo, make sure that your
bread, that your meat is nottoo spicy so that your saracha mayo won't
be overpowering. Or you use yourgarlic and herbola with the pitcraft, oh
my gosh, with the pitcraft,with your Harvardie cheese. Let me tell

(41:04):
you something. Hey can ask yourquestion, yes, have you eaten dinner?
Listen? So then you put alittle bit of salt and pepper on
your You put a little bit ofsalt and pepper on your bread, I
mean on your on your sandwich,on your open face sandwich. And now
you're ready to marry the two together. And then you lay it flat and
then you have to cut it ina triangle because this is a fancy sandwich.

(41:25):
So you cut it in a triangleand then you're ready to serve.
These sandwiches will change your life.Do you stack them like? Not on
one on top of each other,because they're not your pictures there for eating
where chips? I stopped eating chipswith my sandwiches. Yeah, an American,

(41:47):
I don't even use that phrase.It's an I stopped eating chips with
my sandwiches. I think it wasthe chip. Chips don't really do it
for me anymore. Like I thinkit's just it's too salty, Like it's
too it's too salty. I don'treally like the um. I don't really
like it. If I want somethingcrunchy, because that's typically why we eat

(42:07):
chips. As we want something crunchy, I'll do like um, I'll do
celery sticks, like the crunchy thecelery sticks that you put in water and
like they say, overnight and itgets really crunchy chips. Yeah, I'm
probably gonna sound old. Yes,I probably am old. It seems like
chips have gotten saltier. Yeah,they're just it's too it's too Like I

(42:31):
have salt and vine your chips inmy pantry that I'm probably gonna throw away
that have been in there for overa month because I just can't. Like,
I'll eat two or three and I'mjust like that's enough for that.
I usually get like the lightly saltedlays and eat those. Why are those
so good? Because you aren't bigeddown with all the salt so you can

(42:52):
just like taste it. Those arethose are just like they're almost like fried
potatoes. Like it's just yeah,and there ain't nothing wrong with that.
Um anyway, back to the topicat hand, before your sandwich die a
tribe, Listen, I'm telling you, if you start making sandwiches like that,

(43:13):
I really want to see pictures ofyour sandwiches, because sorry, I'm
telling you, like these sandwiches,that's probably what we're gonna do. I'm
trying to get us back on track. I mean, I know, but
I'm just saying, these sandwiches,y'all. If y'all really, if you
really want to like know, somebodyloves you, have to put together a
sandwich. So yeah, on thatsandwich, they are not. I can't

(43:37):
even mute her microphone. I knowyou can meet mine. It's good to
have a friend that who knows howto make a good sandwich. It is
you can just go and be aroundthem and be yourself and just go on
a fifteen minute rant about largely intoun interrupted true true, but I but

(44:02):
I do, like for real,I just no, okay, go ahead,
like wait this is right there.No, but I do honestly I
appreciate that I had that space becauseI think it reinforced like the when I
when I say, and I toldI think I told I was talking to

(44:23):
Johnson when I said this, Iwas just like, as hard as I
may act and as much as muchlike as I tried to be self sufficient
stuff like that, I am asoft person. I am very soft.
And I think that being reminded ofbeing myself of just like, oh man,

(44:44):
this was it was good to nothave to put on It was so
good to just be myself. Itwas good to just reconnect. It felt
It didn't even feel like because youknow how some people are like, oh
my gosh, it's like runing abike. It's like putting on sweats,
it's like doing this. It's likeno, it's just all We fell right
into step, like yeah, fallingto step. Like it didn't feel like

(45:06):
we were trying to act like whoeverwe were before or whatever. It's like
whatever elevated space that we're in now, what however we've evolved or whatever,
we just brought that to wherever wewere at that point. It just kept
me moving. It's like, oh, yeah, this is where I'm at,
this is where you're at Yeah,we're still friends, We're still good.
Let's write what happens. It wasjust an adventure. It was just

(45:28):
like just the like unspoken love andacceptance that happened was I don't love you.
Let's let's stop right. First ofall. First of all, what
you're not going to do is getcamera and act like we act like you
don't love me like that. That'snot how we could down feel like I

(45:49):
feel like I feel like that she'sin the bed. That's not true.
That was like she is such anight out. She is, she is
absolutely awake. Random question, Isyour mom just love cop shows? What
do you mean? Does she watchcop shows a lot? Like Perry Mason,
She's like old school. Okay,okay, okay, I'm doing a

(46:15):
lightweight survey, but go ahead,go ahead. Yeah, super random.
Yeah, but yeah, it doesfeel I think that a lot of people
strive for what we had, whatwe get to experience, like just being
able to be free in your relationshipand it regardless if it's you know,

(46:39):
romantic, platonic, familial, whatever, just that freedom of not having to
worry about living up to somebody's ideaof yourself or living up to um,
some standard or some arbitrary idea,whatever, um. Just being able to
exist as you are, as messyas you are, as silly as you

(46:59):
are, as goofy as you are, you know, as childlike as you
are. Because I didn't feel noshame when you said we're about to pass
a toy store. Yeah. Yeah, every toy store that we passed we
went into because you wanted to gointo toy stores, absolutely, and you
were like, I love magic.Once you say you love magic, I'm
like, no, we need togo anywhere. If we see somebody doing
some kind of magic or something,then we're embracing the little kid that wants

(47:22):
to see that because we're grown ups. Yes we get to do that.
And I think that just being ableto have that space of just like,
oh my gosh, this looks likea quirky little store, let's check it
out, or oh, this lookslike a cool little place to kind of
like dip into, or oh,let's walk across this area because I feel

(47:45):
like this area might give us morewhatever, you know, just being on
the water, you know, walkingthrough the rocks and trying out different things,
whether they worked or not being ableto go back to Sunfish. That
was like freaking out in that elevatorwhere clearly somebody had some kind of like
orphan moment where they just oh mygosh, that elevator was ridiculous, and

(48:07):
then we ended up back down wherewe started from. Any Yeah, so
that was unnecessarily horrifying. So Ido think that, Um, that's I
don't really look at my friendships andthink like, Okay, what do I
bring to the table that often,like I don't analyze stuff because I'm always
over analyzing myself. But I thinkone that's one thing that I liked that

(48:27):
I bring out in people is asort of my silliness. Silliness rubs off
on them to where they feel moreeddies, to just be almost childlike because
stuff isn't really as serious as wethink it is. So that's why I
was like, Okay, yeah,we're gonna go into all the toy stores
and stuff. Yeah, I'm gonnarun up these stairs and see what's up
in this weird place that um rememberI ran up the stairs and you will

(48:52):
know I'm talking about when we wereby the pier in the like old time
saloon place and you were like Iah, Yeah, you were like I've never
been up there. It's like,okay, I'm gonna go check. And
I looked up there and immediately Ijust ran back down the stairs because it
was creeping. It's like, no, don't do it, don't go back.
But I like that kind of stuffbecause a lot of people don't do
that stuff because they worry about like, oh, how am I gonna look

(49:14):
at somebody? Don't think I'm weirdor something? Right, But it's like,
no, just have fun in thatmoment. And I feel like that's
what adults do too much. Theyjust even with like their friendships and stuff,
they worry too much about like amI gonna seem cool or something?
Or am I gonna are people gonnajudge me? It's like no, just
if it seems fun, just tryit. Nobody's getting hurt. It's not

(49:36):
like we were pushing anybody off thepier or anything. You notice when you
took me out on the pier andmy center of gravity worked against me,
I just did like this, yeah, the floating dock, and you were
like, when we were stumbling around, people were looking at us and stuff,
but we were like, no,okay, I'm gonna fall. We
weren't worried about that. So Ithink that's one thing that I liked that
I bring out and I think thistrip reminded me of that, that I

(50:00):
can bring that out in people andnot worry so much about making it a
conscious thing where I'm trying to bringit out in people. It's just sort
of light just happens. Yeah,because it was like, oh, what
is this, Let's try it?Oh well what's over there? I don't
know, let's go look. Itwas so much the opposite of what we

(50:21):
did last time, where we hada lot of stuff planning. It was
very easy going. I know,I had like maybe two plans. It
was like the popcorn place, BainbridgeIsland. Yeah, Bainbridge Island and now
those were my two main things thatI wanted to do, and then the
rest of it was just like,yeah, what's that by pipe place?

(50:44):
And then sort of just walk youwant to go check out this place?
You just show me all these differentrestaurants and stuff. Should we try fish
and chips from here? No?Actually it was terrible. It was horrible.
It was they gave her one pieceof sports salmon medium and they gave
me one piece. It was likehalf the size halibit. No it was.

(51:07):
It wasn't halib It was the salmon, didn't you No, I got
I got halibit. Okay, itwas like half the size of an iPhone
four s so you looked that up. They just microwave, didn't fish and
gave it to me, and Iwas like, what is There's not enough

(51:27):
sauce to bring this fish back tolife. The chips weren't even great,
which was surprising for me. Theygave me an extra piece of fish,
which I think. I don't knowif it was supposed to be Lea's piece
of fish or what, but itwas. Yeah. I don't know what
happened. I don't know who messedup, but it gave us something to
look forward to because we went toSunfish and it was perfection. So and

(51:52):
then we sat by the water andI accidentally interrupted Leah's meditation because I didn't
even realize my eyes were closed.I was just like mine closed to I
was just sitting there just watching thewater. I I haven't felt peace like
that and so long. Like thatwas like it was like the perfect end

(52:14):
of the trip. But I thinkthat perfect I think that like was the
finality. It was the finality ofit, like dying. We're getting back
on the shuttle to go back tomy place so you can go to the
airport, And but just being ableto hang in that moment and stop time
for a minute was just very,very necessary. And I hope, I

(52:36):
really do hope that people get toexperience freedom in their relationship. I didn't
tell you something. Um you rememberthe print that I got, right,
yes, so it's it's here.It made it here. I just smuggled
it on the plane because they wereadamant that you could only have two or

(53:00):
one personal item. I always didthat. I kind of wrapped it in
my sweatshirt and stuck it in mysweatshirt. It kind of like like heiled
it like a sweatshirt, but itwasn't quite a sweatshirt. People kept looking
at me weird. And then thatlight in your kind of didn't fit all

(53:22):
the way under my seat, soI kind of had to position my leg
a certain way and kind of hadto I wasn't thinking, well yeah,
and I kind of had yeah,And I kind of had to drape the
sweatshirt over my knees so that theend of it was covered because it wasn't
it was kind of sticking out.And then the lady on the plane next

(53:43):
to me was crying, which wasweird, and I wanted to ask what
was wrong. I don't know whatwas going on. You don't want to
open that cannon? No, Ididn't. I wanted to, I saying
I want. You didn't need to. You didn't need to. I'm an
EmPATH, Okay, I felt herenergy. Um. But yeah, like
you said, I wish, Iwish. Oh yeah, my print is

(54:05):
hanging up now, it's I'll showit to you after this end, so
you can see my little record setup. Now, my vinyl turn tape
a set up. Um, likeyou said, to get you back on
track. Hopefully people can experience thisease in their friendships because it is something
to um, not something to aspireto you. It's something that's worth investing

(54:30):
in if you find the right friend. That's truth. I wholeheartedly agree.
Yeah, So find you, findyou adjacent or find you Aliah, No,
find you a Jason. I'm allright, No, you're good.
You make sure that you have Aliain your life. Um. If you

(54:52):
have adjacent, just know they're veryhigh maintenance. Very we require some very
specific man as, very specific DELImeats. I am irresponsibly bougie. I
don't know if I can say thatI'm a stable person. But you'll absolutely
love life with me. So there'sthat. But yes, thank you all

(55:15):
so much for tuning in to anotherepisode of Taking Space podcast. Jason Plug
Your Stuff, j j Underscore NewberryTwitter Instagram. We have nine followers on
TikTok now still no TikTok videos.So maybe once I hit twelve, we'll

(55:35):
post. Oh gosh, not eventen, just randomly twelve Such an arbitrary
number. Twelve, okay, twelveis a number. I don't know what
the only three of you need togo follow him. I don't like twelve.
Actually eleven, we'll take it down. Not a fan of twelve,
never been a fan of twelve.Oh gosh, what hold on, let's
let's let's do an ice maker realquick instead of an icebreaker, just real

(56:00):
quirk an ice manker, So you'regonna freeze me? What is your favorite
number? I don't think, honestly, I don't think that I have a
favorite number. UM a number thatI use a lot. Okay, we
can go that. UM twenty one, eighty eight, twenty okay? I

(56:23):
hope you didn't just give away yourpain coat. No, that's no specific
that's the number like when people askingfor a random number. That's the number
that I use all the time.My pin coat is typically like a name.
It's typically a name. So yeah, is I use T nine when

(56:52):
I'm when I'm putting in my pincoat. So it's easy for me to
go ahead, and then some kidout there's like, what's T nine?
You better you want that? Syou better work for that? S Oh
man, I'm back on arm.How did I get back on que Yeah?
Struggle, Yeah, I don't knowhow we did it, but we

(57:14):
made it. Oh gosh, wehave a full keyboard? Now, golly,
what are you type? It's hard? Okay, I'm trying to say,
okay, typing high that's that's alot of work because one two three
one, No, it's one twoand then you gotta wait for it to

(57:35):
like click again and then one twothree. It's so ridiculous. What is
your favorite number? Fifteen? Byfifteen? I don't know. It's always
I like fives in general, butfifteen has always been a number that feels
right to me, like it feelsgood. So this is your year in
five. What you your agents infive? It is yeah, yeah,

(58:06):
can you plug your Yeah? Iwas Gary saying my third is getting dry,
so I don't release me from thisplastic prison. I have like no
water here because I was not prepared. But thank you all so much for
tuning into another episode of Take aSpace Podcast. I have been Leah.
This has been Jason. Please gomake sure you follow Jason at JJ Underscore,
Newberry, TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, Medium, Visco. Yeah,

(58:30):
Visco, we're on there. I'mposting stuff on there. Yeah. You
find his artwork, his pictures,his photography because he's a photographer. Now
make sure you also follow Take aSpace POD's Take a Space Pod on Facebook,
Instagram, and Twitter. Also onTikTok under hashtat, t sace pod
or Champions of Discourse, and pleasemake sure you subscribe to YouTube at Champions

(58:52):
of Discourse or hashtat's Take Space Podcast. And thank you all so much for
tuning in. I have been Leah. This has been Jason. See you
next time. Bye bye
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