September 30, 2022 • 29 mins
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Costar: Jason Melton
Synopsis: Jason and Leah talk about #BoycottWomanKing and its implications in social media and Black Hollywood
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your approbrious comments when I send youwords are not necessary. My what comments
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or abuse infamous before thirteen eighty sevenin Trevisa's translation of hdgens polychronicon, borrowed
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from Old French approbrial and directly fromlate Latin approbrius from Latin approbrium approbrium for
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right, approbrium is the noun version. This one is not so much of
an attack. I feel like it'san attack. It describes perfectly the attack
that you won't break my I'm tellingeverybody, and that's the word of the
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day. M H. Thank youall. For tuning in to another episode
of Take a Stace Podcast. I'myour host Leah joined this week buy my
co star Jason Cheer, Cheer andapplause. Hello everybody, Hello everybody.
How's it going. It's going great. I'm just putting something together into a
framed real quick. I feel likethis is unnecessarily it's just it's it's I'm
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trying to find the words to describethe shenanigans that are about to ensue,
because there's no reason if I amthe recipient of said message that you are
putting together, just enjoy the rhymeno no, And I'm glad that on
TikTok your it only comes up asa link and doesn't come up as a
picture. I get to see whatit is that you're trying to that will
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be and I don't want to seethat that will be addressed and do with
accordingly. Trust I don't know whyyou keep attacking me with pictures of Tinka
suffer. I am trying to expandthe vocabulary of you and your constituents because
you work with so many people inthe English department using these words joy your
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mouth. Why would you? I'mI'm trying to be helpful. There is
nothing helpful about Tika Sumter being inmy text messages. See and there's nothing
you see today. There's literally nothinghelping, nothing helpful. I am would
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imagine how joyful it makes me feelto see you cringe. I don't know
why it's so painful to just watchher. I know it's going to get
to the point where you send mepictures of ed sharing, and that's the
line that I'm towing well, andI know I'm getting really close to it.
I feel like it's like we're rightthere on the precipice of you just
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like going full on ED sharing.Just oh, I haven't loaded up,
have them loaded up? And everythingof the edge Sharon shaved on your phone.
That makes me noxious to my core. That makes me hurt for you
as a friend. I have differentphases of Ed Sharon though, Like because
he ed Sharon, but he saidhe was the shape of potato Ed Sharon
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when he got in shape for shapeof you, Ed Sharon when he first
started singing at Sharon after he gotmarried. Like, there's so many different
versions of Ed Sharon that you're goingto be able to to potato he said,
I am in shape just the shapeof a potato. He reminds me
of a potato with eyes. Heis he is not unattractive. Tickets acting,
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on the other hand, is likenedto that of Gabrielle Union. They
make her do things that she isjust not capable of being. It's not
believable when it's say, did yousee the movie? Because I know you
didn't. Um, there was amovie that Chica Sumter did where she was
like a Secret Service agent and shewas protecting the vice This is already bad
(05:12):
like secret Service, like what abouther? I would believe maybe good as
a Secret Service agent before ever believeever in any serious At the end of
the movie, I believe the presidentwas played or vice president. I can't
remember which one she was. Ithink it was played by um Jamie Lee
Curtis, but I think, wellnot. I think at the end of
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the movie, Um, Chica Sumtergot blowed up because she sacrificed herself and
some did. She make a veryloud and dramatic speech before she did actually
see her get blowed up. Shejust put on a win in the building
and the guy when after I thinkand oh, they were trying to quietly
exit her off the screen and theloudest way possible. She was the star
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of the movie. Okay, Iabsolutely I barely saw Sonic because of her.
I was like, there's too toomuch of her in Sonic. For
some reason, Sonic um, Iliked it, But for some reason,
Jim Carrey's performance in it, somethingfelt weird weird about it. I don't
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know why. I think the secondone more so, it wasn't It wasn't
natural nineties goofy Jim Carrey. It'slike they told him, Okay, act
like you used to act. Yeah, it's a very forced like because Jim
Carrey now is a very um subduede. Yeah, he's he's very very matured,
(06:38):
very relaxed, and like has verydifferent conversations as a as a human
being. I think he said Sonicis going to be his last movie because
I don't think he wants to orSonic too was his last movie. Yeah,
he said he doesn't want to.He doesn't really, he doesn't want
to do it anymore. And Ifelt like like even when he did his
dramatic roles, I was like,he could absolutely switch over to drama.
(06:59):
It's super easy, right, ButI feel like in Sonic the reason why
his character came across a little morepainfully is just because it felt like he
was trying to sum up the maskJim Carrey. Yeah, or it almost
seemed like they had the concept todo Sonic, which they probably did like
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back in the nineties and kept intheir mind, Okay, Jim Carrey,
Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey and heldonto that. Um. Honestly, I
feel like even somebody like Danny DeVitowould have would have fit in better in
this version of Sonic, just becausehe does sort of seem like Doctor robot
Nick. He does, but Iwouldn't be able to see him as robot
(07:46):
Nick. I would always be remindedof him as the Penguin. Okay,
yeah, I can see that.Yeah. So that's that's the reason why
I'm like because he played as thecharacter like that, and it was the
penguin and hands to freak me outin that movie and Batman, and then
when he bit the dude's nose hedid off his face. I was wonderful
(08:09):
he had, Like was that TimBurton Batman? Yep, the first two
with Tim Burton and then Tim Burton. Um was one of the producers I
think for the third one and thenthe fourth one. I think it just
kind of I don't know numbers.I just know forever Val Kilmer that was
yeah, that was where he producedit or Tim Burton produced it. Because
(08:31):
Val Kimer was bad Girl. No, Val Kimer was. Robin was introduced.
Yeah, Poison Ivy or mister Freeze. No, Poison Ivy was the
was Batman and Robin. That wasthe last one, Okay, and that
because that was George George Clooney,Yeah, the popular white guy. I
(08:56):
don't know what. I can alwayssee him, but I never know what
his name is. Just oh,he's Hollywood handsome. Yes, I don't
know why. You know why theysay he's handsome, but he's Hollywood handsome.
It's George Clear has a squarehead.I don't know what about him is
like Booty Chin used to make,but he does. He was like he
(09:20):
just he just had squarehead. AndI just like, I think Will turned
me out. Val Kilmer. SeeingVal Kilmer on um Deja Vous years back
with Denzel Washington, I was like, yeah, he actually unrecognizable. Yeah,
he doesn't have a throat anymore becausehe had throat cancer so they removed
(09:41):
like his this was just like overlike the past maybe like and then he
just came back in the spotlight somewhatlike in like the last two or three
years. Yeah. Um, sohe's not I don't think he's acting anymore.
I think he said he might getback yeah yeah, yeah. So
he's like wearing red carpet or somethingfor something. Yeah. And so like
(10:01):
he wrote a book and stuff.Uh yeah, so, um, Bruce
Willis is going to have something writtenbecause he's had a long, illustrious career
and it's unfortunate, like Aphasia isthe reason why he can't continue acting,
right, But I think that hewas. He was coming up on the
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end anyway. And that's the thing. They said that the reason why he
was doing so many movies and whythey were so bad is because he was
just booking whatever he could just tostack the money, um and maintain their
lifestyle. So it's like, Okay, he knew he was going to have
to retire because he was fading,so he was just stacking up as much
(10:46):
as possible. But hopefully, likeyou said, hopefully there was something that
was some kind of record that waskept or some way that his career can
be or his story can be toldin his words, yeah, because he's
been acting for ever. Yeah eighties, yeah, eighties. Yeah. The
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it it made me sad, likeknowing that he had to take on all
these roles, like and that's whathasn't be concerned about, like um,
and I mean the Steve Harvey thing. He came out later and said that
the reason why he was doing allthis stuff was to get to pay off
his pay off the IRSUM. Now, Jamie Foxx seems to be like in
a bunch of movies with Netflix,and I'm just like, what's what's happening
(11:28):
here? What's it's something going tocome out about what you got going on?
But I'm I'm it's interesting to hearthat as long as Bruce Willis's career
was, he feels like he hasto like stack all these movies together to
like make all this money when peoplelike um, Robert Downey Junior would buy
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into the movies or act instead,like he'll take a lower pay, lower
pay up front just to say,okay, well I'll get five or ten
percent of whatever the movie makes theback end and that's like forever. So
well, I don't know if it'sforever what the contract says but having having
pay from like what these movies aremaking. I'm like, that's how you
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set yourself up. It's the ownership, like you gotta you gotta be able
to have that so that way we'reready to go, you can just walk
out. Yeah. And it's interestingbecause it's probably a big part of it
is probably just a timing thing,because I feel like if Bruce Willis was
still able to act in stuff,and he was even when like Marvel started
popping off and stuff, if heprobably could have been Thanos or something for
(12:39):
that matter. But Robert Downe youJunior, iOS feel like he got lucky
because he wasn't really like the truefirst MCU movie right right, actually incredible
Hulk. But but yeah, Blade, but even Wesley Snipes he bought into
Blade and he'll produce that, sohe got a lot of back end stuff
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for that. But I feel likewe're Robert Downey Junior. He got lucky
because it's like, Okay, hewas the face of Iron Man, which
was like the person that they werepushing as the face of Marble, and
so it's like, okay, youcan't drop me at this point, so
I can negotiate a lot of stuffright, Yeah he did. I mean
he put himself in a good position, really good position. I can't even
be mad at him, yeah atall. Like if I was able to
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do that and then end my journeywith this studio just by snapping my fingers
and being fried chicken at the end, I wouldn't sit there and look like
it's lab ribs. Just yeah,absolutely charred, just living living like Tony
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Stark. He is just like outthere living his best life. I don't
even know what he's doing at thispoint. I have to act anymore.
But he does other movies and stuff. And after That's what I was gonna
say. The fact that right afterEndgame came out and he was charged to
the side, Fried died late tothe slide to the side, he released
that um that movie, Oh whatwas it? Um where it was like
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some boat or something. I rememberthem flying through the sky on a boat.
It was doctor Dolittle, Yes,doctor Doolittle, Doolittle. Yeah,
it was just called do Little becauseeverything has a short title now, remember,
yeah, like your movie would justbe called Johnson. But the fact
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that he went from two of likethe highest grossing movies of all times,
Infinity War and End game and theywent to this movie that was just universally
panned. It's like he just straightup said, Okay, I can do
it, so I'm going to doit and I don't care. Yeah.
He can literally put out like thenext ten movies could be flops and it
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doesn't matter because he's still paid.He is set for life, He's still
paid. And I just feel like, Okay, so all these all these
talking about movies, I like takinga hard turn here. Um, can
we just talk about for a second, Um, how people be out here
just saying stuff outside of the neckand not taking time to realize like the
(15:16):
impact of their words. And whenyou say impact, you're probably not talking
about violence. But I mean,okay, So what I'm referring to is
before I went to go see thismovie, UM, I didn't get on
social I hadn't been on social media. And you all probably have noticed is
(15:37):
that I'm not as active as Iwas like in these last six months because
I need a break from social media. Like I still liked doing the podcast,
I still like have a conversation withmy friend, but um, as
far as like being out there andas that guys not happening, I didn't
know until after I went and hadan amazing experience watching Woman and had a
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great conversation. It was like Americanto African having conversations about our experiences and
like how we experienced the movie.I was unexpectedly emotional. I was very
shocked about that. But it butI had a great time watching the movie.
Like my only great was that itwas a little bit you know,
okay, a lot, a bitpredictable, but it was still a really
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good movie. I love to watchhow it was happening. But then a
couple days later, I want togo see it on a Sunday on Tuesday.
I'm on social media. There's likeI'm behind the times because obviously when
the trailer came out, hashtag boycottWoman King. Women shouldn't be masculine.
She should be called woman warrior orqueen warrior. She should be And I
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was like, you, these peoplewho are fighting are not in the field
putting on makeup to try to seduce, try to seduce the opposing group and
saying, hey, look at mylipstick, looking the way my eyebrows are
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arched, my hairs up, I'mthis and that, and I'm sexy.
Come look at me. No theyare fighters, they are warriors. And
then people started doing quote unquote researchand was like, the Homemade tribe was
a part of the slave trade.We should not support this movie. They
are whitewashing our history. There arewhite women who are behind this movie.
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And I was like, y'all,Viola Davis and her husband are literally producers.
The editor is black. The directordid Loving Basketball. Who's a black
woman loving basketball? She was awriter on a different world. She also
did disappearing acts like y'all picked thethree whitest women that you can find who
was a part of the writing teamand who was a part because it was
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they picked one person and said thiswhite lady wrote was a writer, and
then they had two white producers.These white producers probably had the money for
the budget. Okay, let's let'sbe let's be clear. Let's be very
clear that y'all did this on purposeto try to kind of like, um,
say that you know, our historyis being whitewashed and told this way.
Blah blah blah. First of all, it's not a documentary. It's
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entertainment. Like you get a littlebit of the backstory of the history,
but it's dramatized obviously for our entertainment. People saw the trailer just like they
saw the trailer for Wakanda Forever,just saw they saw just how they saw
the sneak peak for um, what'sthe girl's name, Bailey? Um Chloe
(18:44):
for a Little Mermaid? Oh yeah, how they saw the seepy for a
Little Mermaid and they just like offthe trailer like and most people did.
It was like, Oh, I'mnot going to see this movie because no
woman should be king. They shouldbe you know, she should be a
queen, she should be this.You know, people don't know their places,
blah blah blah. You don't knowhow the tribe was set up back
in eighteen thirty two. You don'tknow what the what the storyline is like.
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You don't. You are refusing toeducate yourself on a space and make
an educated decision. You would ratherwatch it, read a headline and make
a decision on the headline instead ofreading the whole article. And I got
really frustrated, and I was tryingto tell I was talking to my sister
about this, and she was like, oh, yeah, you know,
so and so got caught up inthat too, and I had to like
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really explain like how people are twistingthe story to make it seem like it's
something that it's not. And I'mjust like, honestly, all you can
say is watch the movie what,regardless of whatever your hesitation or your thought
or your apprehension is or you know, preconceived notions, like literally, just
watch the movie. And I getreally frustrated when people are just like,
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now I'm gonna read the headline andtell you exactly what the article is saying.
Headlines can be inflammatory, Trailers canbe like how many times have you
seen the Great trailer? And themovie is nothing like it? Daybreak and
Hawk. I painfully tried to watchthat, Like it looked the trailer.
(20:11):
The trailer looked decent. I waslike, Okay, let me go ahead
watch it. It did. Wewent to the movies with Brittany to see
that. We went she picked thatmovie and then we were like, oh,
yeah, we're gonna go see twomovies. We saw that and then
we saw Avatar. Britney's movie.Picking privileges were revoked wow for an undetermined
(20:33):
still undetermined amount of time because that, Yeah, we were sitting there in
the movie theater just watching it andwe all just we're looking like what.
Yeah, I couldn't get past thefirst twenty minutes of that movie. I
(20:56):
didn't know. I had to liketry I had to try it in to
watch it like three times, andthen I got to the last twenty minutes
and I just was like, Ithink I'm good. Actually need to watch
this, don't. I don't thinkI finished it, because that's the that's
the vampire one right where they weretrying to find a cure, but then
they were running out of the theywere running out of human populations, and
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then they attacked the coffee stand,which is a blood stand, to get
more blood because they were rationing it. And I was just like, well,
going one like this is poorly executed, very poorly. What great concept
maybe for somebody. I mean,the trailer, if they made it like
the trailer, the trailer, Iwill watch the trailer again, I would,
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but but we have so many ofthese where it's like the trailer is
one thing. Like even people whoare like boycotting will Conda forever or who
not boycotting, but like they're refusingto see it because they're like um um
recasting or not recasting to Challa.They're not recasting to Challa, and they're
saying that they are capitalizing what's theworst that they used. It's like capitalizing
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off our emotional connection to Chachala.And I'm just like they're like, oh,
you know, just like they replacedShaft, just like they replaced Batman,
you know. And I was justlike, but was was Batman a
cultural movement? Was it? Wasit a cultural movement or was it just
like any white guy can feel thatscene, like what's There wasn't even any
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continuity in the Batman movies really likefor the first like the first two maybe,
but even in Batman Returns with Catwomanand stuff, they didn't really reference
anything from the first movie, Likethere were never There were very separate,
different, very different movies. Thatwas just very telling of what was going
on at that time. It waslike each to Eat the rich movie.
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There was a a white privilege moviewhere he just got to do whatever he
wanted to do. The trilogy hadsome symmetry happened that did have it did
kind of like it did kind oflike hang together decently, but you know,
the Batman like it's like every timethey did a new guy, they
started like a whole series so it'sjust like you can say whatever you want
(23:15):
to say. But it's just like, can people just have their entertainment,
Like even the Spider Man movies,Like every time they cast a new Spider
Man, yeah, they start over. It wouldn't make sense. It wouldn't
make sense in the way that Marvelis set up for them to recast to
childa and act like nothing right everything, Oh yeah, we'll just have it,
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We'll just that mean would be evenan even bigger problem. I feel
like it would because it's like Ifeel like it would. I'm not laughing
at that part. I feel likeit would because I immediately thought of Roadie
getting replaced in Ironman. Can youimagine Terrence Howard getting shot out the sky
by vision? Oh? He foundlike Tony, I'm sign dead stick?
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Can you imagine that? Thum?I just feel like Terence Tower being replaced
was a was a good move.Um, it was a good move.
But he didn't have as much ofa cultural impact as Chadwick Boseman had,
so him getting replaced was like necessaryand it made this storyline just move.
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And I feel like I can't thinkof his name. He's in everything though,
who plays Roadie now, uh,Don Cheedo. I don't know why
I can't remember his name, butI always every time I think of him,
I think of Crash because that's themovie that I remember seeing him in.
But um, but I feel likeI feel like even Terence Tower being
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replaced by Don Cheedle, it wasIt wasn't Rody, wasn't a cultural impact.
Yeah, but I feel like ithow much impact Chadwick Boseman had as
the Black Panther, there was noother way to really do it other than
honoring the role that he played andthen making room for those who are coming
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next. Yeah, I got tomove the story forward, like it's not
saying like, Okay, we're tryingto cover over Chadwick or trying to make
it like we can't just sit inthat one character. Yeah, and there's
enough in the comics that it cancontinue and keep moving forward with the same
(25:33):
character that is Black Panther, butwith somebody else holding the mantle. Yeah,
and still honoring U Chadwick Boseman,still making sure that he's respected and
so that he's acknowledged to note,so that we can see how impactful his
portrayal was, because it was itwas a big deal. It's still a
big deal. Yeah, I wouldhave loved to see and this is the
only sad thing that I that Ithink about it. I would have loved
(25:56):
to see T'Challa's character as Chadwick Bozeman. Yeah, um bring in the X
Men by being forced to marry Stormlike that. I would have loved love
to see that. I mean,that's what I was excited for, like
the build up for as soon asFox bought or sorry, as soon as
um Marvel Disney. That's right,it's not Marvel. It's not Marvel as
(26:21):
Disney. But yeah, I feellike I was. I was really excited
to see that. I want tosee how that happens now since they can
say mutant now yea and word andsaid mum, but they were because it
was they were what was it?It was inhuman? I think, yeah,
(26:41):
they were in human? Yeah,all these were the words. No,
I didn't watch it because it didn'tpique my interests. You should know
what I did do the first episode. You know what I didn't do.
I didn't get online to talk aboutit. I didn't have to share my
opinion. I kind of want youto watch the first episode just that you
can see one characters hair, Icould probably do that. I would probably
(27:03):
do that just the first episode.Yeah. I like talking about movies.
This is good. I like seingmovies. Well, Jason, Um,
if you would like to go aheadand plug your information so people can follow
you, I don't know why whenyou said plug that time, we remind
me of the plug it in jingle, Um, plug it in jingle,
plug in, plug it in,plug it in. Oh okay, you
(27:26):
know. Yeah. You can findme on Yeah, there's no train of
thought here. Find me on Twitter, Instagram, maybe ticktok JJ Underscore Newberry
every time. Oh your eyebrows always, You're like under Underscore, got it
(27:47):
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(28:34):
story. Like, understand what thestory is first, and that's my plea.
All right, everyone, be safe, to be good to yourself,
take up space, occupy the spaceyou own all that good stuff. Wow,
that was aggressive. Everything all right, shel I have a great one. Peace,
Oh gosh, well, I justI just want to open by saying,
your approbrious comments when I send youwords are not necessary. My what comments
approbrius? My speller, what doesthat mean? What comments? O P
p R O b approbrius b rI O us I think let me double
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check. I think I spelled itwrong. I can already tell you that
I ain't gonna be in this book. A P P R O b R
I pro Actually approbrium is in here. Approbrium yeah, and an appropriate scorn
or abuse infamous before thirteen eighty sevenin Trevisa's translation of hdgens polychronicon, borrowed
(01:00):
from Old French approbrial and directly fromlate Latin approbrius from Latin approbrium approbrium for
suffix or see suffix for suffix.C o us scorn abuse infamy, sixteen
fifty six, Middle English, probablybefore fourteen twenty five. Okay, all
(01:26):
right, approbrium is the noun version. This one is not so much of
an attack. I feel like it'san attack. It describes perfectly the attack
that you won't break my I'm tellingeverybody, and that's the word of the
(01:49):
day. M H. Thank youall. For tuning in to another episode
of Take a Stace Podcast. I'myour host Leah joined this week buy my
co star Jason Cheer, Cheer andapplause. Hello everybody, Hello everybody.
How's it going. It's going great. I'm just putting something together into a
framed real quick. I feel likethis is unnecessarily it's just it's it's I'm
(02:19):
trying to find the words to describethe shenanigans that are about to ensue,
because there's no reason if I amthe recipient of said message that you are
putting together, just enjoy the rhymeno no, And I'm glad that on
TikTok your it only comes up asa link and doesn't come up as a
picture. I get to see whatit is that you're trying to that will
(02:44):
be and I don't want to seethat that will be addressed and do with
accordingly. Trust I don't know whyyou keep attacking me with pictures of Tinka
suffer. I am trying to expandthe vocabulary of you and your constituents because
you work with so many people inthe English department using these words joy your
(03:04):
mouth. Why would you? I'mI'm trying to be helpful. There is
nothing helpful about Tika Sumter being inmy text messages. See and there's nothing
you see today. There's literally nothinghelping, nothing helpful. I am would
(03:32):
imagine how joyful it makes me feelto see you cringe. I don't know
why it's so painful to just watchher. I know it's going to get
to the point where you send mepictures of ed sharing, and that's the
line that I'm towing well, andI know I'm getting really close to it.
I feel like it's like we're rightthere on the precipice of you just
(03:53):
like going full on ED sharing.Just oh, I haven't loaded up,
have them loaded up? And everythingof the edge Sharon shaved on your phone.
That makes me noxious to my core. That makes me hurt for you
as a friend. I have differentphases of Ed Sharon though, Like because
he ed Sharon, but he saidhe was the shape of potato Ed Sharon
(04:15):
when he got in shape for shapeof you, Ed Sharon when he first
started singing at Sharon after he gotmarried. Like, there's so many different
versions of Ed Sharon that you're goingto be able to to potato he said,
I am in shape just the shapeof a potato. He reminds me
of a potato with eyes. Heis he is not unattractive. Tickets acting,
(04:45):
on the other hand, is likenedto that of Gabrielle Union. They
make her do things that she isjust not capable of being. It's not
believable when it's say, did yousee the movie? Because I know you
didn't. Um, there was amovie that Chica Sumter did where she was
like a Secret Service agent and shewas protecting the vice This is already bad
(05:12):
like secret Service, like what abouther? I would believe maybe good as
a Secret Service agent before ever believeever in any serious At the end of
the movie, I believe the presidentwas played or vice president. I can't
remember which one she was. Ithink it was played by um Jamie Lee
Curtis, but I think, wellnot. I think at the end of
(05:32):
the movie, Um, Chica Sumtergot blowed up because she sacrificed herself and
some did. She make a veryloud and dramatic speech before she did actually
see her get blowed up. Shejust put on a win in the building
and the guy when after I thinkand oh, they were trying to quietly
exit her off the screen and theloudest way possible. She was the star
(05:54):
of the movie. Okay, Iabsolutely I barely saw Sonic because of her.
I was like, there's too toomuch of her in Sonic. For
some reason, Sonic um, Iliked it, But for some reason,
Jim Carrey's performance in it, somethingfelt weird weird about it. I don't
(06:14):
know why. I think the secondone more so, it wasn't It wasn't
natural nineties goofy Jim Carrey. It'slike they told him, Okay, act
like you used to act. Yeah, it's a very forced like because Jim
Carrey now is a very um subduede. Yeah, he's he's very very matured,
(06:38):
very relaxed, and like has verydifferent conversations as a as a human
being. I think he said Sonicis going to be his last movie because
I don't think he wants to orSonic too was his last movie. Yeah,
he said he doesn't want to.He doesn't really, he doesn't want
to do it anymore. And Ifelt like like even when he did his
dramatic roles, I was like,he could absolutely switch over to drama.
(06:59):
It's super easy, right, ButI feel like in Sonic the reason why
his character came across a little morepainfully is just because it felt like he
was trying to sum up the maskJim Carrey. Yeah, or it almost
seemed like they had the concept todo Sonic, which they probably did like
(07:24):
back in the nineties and kept intheir mind, Okay, Jim Carrey,
Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey and heldonto that. Um. Honestly, I
feel like even somebody like Danny DeVitowould have would have fit in better in
this version of Sonic, just becausehe does sort of seem like Doctor robot
Nick. He does, but Iwouldn't be able to see him as robot
(07:46):
Nick. I would always be remindedof him as the Penguin. Okay,
yeah, I can see that.Yeah. So that's that's the reason why
I'm like because he played as thecharacter like that, and it was the
penguin and hands to freak me outin that movie and Batman, and then
when he bit the dude's nose hedid off his face. I was wonderful
(08:09):
he had, Like was that TimBurton Batman? Yep, the first two
with Tim Burton and then Tim Burton. Um was one of the producers I
think for the third one and thenthe fourth one. I think it just
kind of I don't know numbers.I just know forever Val Kilmer that was
yeah, that was where he producedit or Tim Burton produced it. Because
(08:31):
Val Kimer was bad Girl. No, Val Kimer was. Robin was introduced.
Yeah, Poison Ivy or mister Freeze. No, Poison Ivy was the
was Batman and Robin. That wasthe last one, Okay, and that
because that was George George Clooney,Yeah, the popular white guy. I
(08:56):
don't know what. I can alwayssee him, but I never know what
his name is. Just oh,he's Hollywood handsome. Yes, I don't
know why. You know why theysay he's handsome, but he's Hollywood handsome.
It's George Clear has a squarehead.I don't know what about him is
like Booty Chin used to make,but he does. He was like he
(09:20):
just he just had squarehead. AndI just like, I think Will turned
me out. Val Kilmer. SeeingVal Kilmer on um Deja Vous years back
with Denzel Washington, I was like, yeah, he actually unrecognizable. Yeah,
he doesn't have a throat anymore becausehe had throat cancer so they removed
(09:41):
like his this was just like overlike the past maybe like and then he
just came back in the spotlight somewhatlike in like the last two or three
years. Yeah. Um, sohe's not I don't think he's acting anymore.
I think he said he might getback yeah yeah, yeah. So
he's like wearing red carpet or somethingfor something. Yeah. And so like
(10:01):
he wrote a book and stuff.Uh yeah, so, um, Bruce
Willis is going to have something writtenbecause he's had a long, illustrious career
and it's unfortunate, like Aphasia isthe reason why he can't continue acting,
right, But I think that hewas. He was coming up on the
(10:24):
end anyway. And that's the thing. They said that the reason why he
was doing so many movies and whythey were so bad is because he was
just booking whatever he could just tostack the money, um and maintain their
lifestyle. So it's like, Okay, he knew he was going to have
to retire because he was fading,so he was just stacking up as much
(10:46):
as possible. But hopefully, likeyou said, hopefully there was something that
was some kind of record that waskept or some way that his career can
be or his story can be toldin his words, yeah, because he's
been acting for ever. Yeah eighties, yeah, eighties. Yeah. The
(11:07):
it it made me sad, likeknowing that he had to take on all
these roles, like and that's whathasn't be concerned about, like um,
and I mean the Steve Harvey thing. He came out later and said that
the reason why he was doing allthis stuff was to get to pay off
his pay off the IRSUM. Now, Jamie Foxx seems to be like in
a bunch of movies with Netflix,and I'm just like, what's what's happening
(11:28):
here? What's it's something going tocome out about what you got going on?
But I'm I'm it's interesting to hearthat as long as Bruce Willis's career
was, he feels like he hasto like stack all these movies together to
like make all this money when peoplelike um, Robert Downey Junior would buy
(11:52):
into the movies or act instead,like he'll take a lower pay, lower
pay up front just to say,okay, well I'll get five or ten
percent of whatever the movie makes theback end and that's like forever. So
well, I don't know if it'sforever what the contract says but having having
pay from like what these movies aremaking. I'm like, that's how you
(12:15):
set yourself up. It's the ownership, like you gotta you gotta be able
to have that so that way we'reready to go, you can just walk
out. Yeah. And it's interestingbecause it's probably a big part of it
is probably just a timing thing,because I feel like if Bruce Willis was
still able to act in stuff,and he was even when like Marvel started
popping off and stuff, if heprobably could have been Thanos or something for
(12:39):
that matter. But Robert Downe youJunior, iOS feel like he got lucky
because he wasn't really like the truefirst MCU movie right right, actually incredible
Hulk. But but yeah, Blade, but even Wesley Snipes he bought into
Blade and he'll produce that, sohe got a lot of back end stuff
(13:00):
for that. But I feel likewe're Robert Downey Junior. He got lucky
because it's like, Okay, hewas the face of Iron Man, which
was like the person that they werepushing as the face of Marble, and
so it's like, okay, youcan't drop me at this point, so
I can negotiate a lot of stuffright, Yeah he did. I mean
he put himself in a good position, really good position. I can't even
be mad at him, yeah atall. Like if I was able to
(13:22):
do that and then end my journeywith this studio just by snapping my fingers
and being fried chicken at the end, I wouldn't sit there and look like
it's lab ribs. Just yeah,absolutely charred, just living living like Tony
(13:43):
Stark. He is just like outthere living his best life. I don't
even know what he's doing at thispoint. I have to act anymore.
But he does other movies and stuff. And after That's what I was gonna
say. The fact that right afterEndgame came out and he was charged to
the side, Fried died late tothe slide to the side, he released
that um that movie, Oh whatwas it? Um where it was like
(14:07):
some boat or something. I rememberthem flying through the sky on a boat.
It was doctor Dolittle, Yes,doctor Doolittle, Doolittle. Yeah,
it was just called do Little becauseeverything has a short title now, remember,
yeah, like your movie would justbe called Johnson. But the fact
(14:28):
that he went from two of likethe highest grossing movies of all times,
Infinity War and End game and theywent to this movie that was just universally
panned. It's like he just straightup said, Okay, I can do
it, so I'm going to doit and I don't care. Yeah.
He can literally put out like thenext ten movies could be flops and it
(14:52):
doesn't matter because he's still paid.He is set for life, He's still
paid. And I just feel like, Okay, so all these all these
talking about movies, I like takinga hard turn here. Um, can
we just talk about for a second, Um, how people be out here
just saying stuff outside of the neckand not taking time to realize like the
(15:16):
impact of their words. And whenyou say impact, you're probably not talking
about violence. But I mean,okay, So what I'm referring to is
before I went to go see thismovie, UM, I didn't get on
social I hadn't been on social media. And you all probably have noticed is
(15:37):
that I'm not as active as Iwas like in these last six months because
I need a break from social media. Like I still liked doing the podcast,
I still like have a conversation withmy friend, but um, as
far as like being out there andas that guys not happening, I didn't
know until after I went and hadan amazing experience watching Woman and had a
(16:02):
great conversation. It was like Americanto African having conversations about our experiences and
like how we experienced the movie.I was unexpectedly emotional. I was very
shocked about that. But it butI had a great time watching the movie.
Like my only great was that itwas a little bit you know,
okay, a lot, a bitpredictable, but it was still a really
(16:26):
good movie. I love to watchhow it was happening. But then a
couple days later, I want togo see it on a Sunday on Tuesday.
I'm on social media. There's likeI'm behind the times because obviously when
the trailer came out, hashtag boycottWoman King. Women shouldn't be masculine.
She should be called woman warrior orqueen warrior. She should be And I
(16:51):
was like, you, these peoplewho are fighting are not in the field
putting on makeup to try to seduce, try to seduce the opposing group and
saying, hey, look at mylipstick, looking the way my eyebrows are
(17:12):
arched, my hairs up, I'mthis and that, and I'm sexy.
Come look at me. No theyare fighters, they are warriors. And
then people started doing quote unquote researchand was like, the Homemade tribe was
a part of the slave trade.We should not support this movie. They
are whitewashing our history. There arewhite women who are behind this movie.
(17:34):
And I was like, y'all,Viola Davis and her husband are literally producers.
The editor is black. The directordid Loving Basketball. Who's a black
woman loving basketball? She was awriter on a different world. She also
did disappearing acts like y'all picked thethree whitest women that you can find who
was a part of the writing teamand who was a part because it was
(17:55):
they picked one person and said thiswhite lady wrote was a writer, and
then they had two white producers.These white producers probably had the money for
the budget. Okay, let's let'sbe let's be clear. Let's be very
clear that y'all did this on purposeto try to kind of like, um,
say that you know, our historyis being whitewashed and told this way.
Blah blah blah. First of all, it's not a documentary. It's
(18:18):
entertainment. Like you get a littlebit of the backstory of the history,
but it's dramatized obviously for our entertainment. People saw the trailer just like they
saw the trailer for Wakanda Forever,just saw they saw just how they saw
the sneak peak for um, what'sthe girl's name, Bailey? Um Chloe
(18:44):
for a Little Mermaid? Oh yeah, how they saw the seepy for a
Little Mermaid and they just like offthe trailer like and most people did.
It was like, Oh, I'mnot going to see this movie because no
woman should be king. They shouldbe you know, she should be a
queen, she should be this.You know, people don't know their places,
blah blah blah. You don't knowhow the tribe was set up back
in eighteen thirty two. You don'tknow what the what the storyline is like.
(19:07):
You don't. You are refusing toeducate yourself on a space and make
an educated decision. You would ratherwatch it, read a headline and make
a decision on the headline instead ofreading the whole article. And I got
really frustrated, and I was tryingto tell I was talking to my sister
about this, and she was like, oh, yeah, you know,
so and so got caught up inthat too, and I had to like
(19:27):
really explain like how people are twistingthe story to make it seem like it's
something that it's not. And I'mjust like, honestly, all you can
say is watch the movie what,regardless of whatever your hesitation or your thought
or your apprehension is or you know, preconceived notions, like literally, just
watch the movie. And I getreally frustrated when people are just like,
(19:48):
now I'm gonna read the headline andtell you exactly what the article is saying.
Headlines can be inflammatory, Trailers canbe like how many times have you
seen the Great trailer? And themovie is nothing like it? Daybreak and
Hawk. I painfully tried to watchthat, Like it looked the trailer.
(20:11):
The trailer looked decent. I waslike, Okay, let me go ahead
watch it. It did. Wewent to the movies with Brittany to see
that. We went she picked thatmovie and then we were like, oh,
yeah, we're gonna go see twomovies. We saw that and then
we saw Avatar. Britney's movie.Picking privileges were revoked wow for an undetermined
(20:33):
still undetermined amount of time because that, Yeah, we were sitting there in
the movie theater just watching it andwe all just we're looking like what.
Yeah, I couldn't get past thefirst twenty minutes of that movie. I
(20:56):
didn't know. I had to liketry I had to try it in to
watch it like three times, andthen I got to the last twenty minutes
and I just was like, Ithink I'm good. Actually need to watch
this, don't. I don't thinkI finished it, because that's the that's
the vampire one right where they weretrying to find a cure, but then
they were running out of the theywere running out of human populations, and
(21:18):
then they attacked the coffee stand,which is a blood stand, to get
more blood because they were rationing it. And I was just like, well,
going one like this is poorly executed, very poorly. What great concept
maybe for somebody. I mean,the trailer, if they made it like
the trailer, the trailer, Iwill watch the trailer again, I would,
(21:41):
but but we have so many ofthese where it's like the trailer is
one thing. Like even people whoare like boycotting will Conda forever or who
not boycotting, but like they're refusingto see it because they're like um um
recasting or not recasting to Challa.They're not recasting to Challa, and they're
saying that they are capitalizing what's theworst that they used. It's like capitalizing
(22:04):
off our emotional connection to Chachala.And I'm just like they're like, oh,
you know, just like they replacedShaft, just like they replaced Batman,
you know. And I was justlike, but was was Batman a
cultural movement? Was it? Wasit a cultural movement or was it just
like any white guy can feel thatscene, like what's There wasn't even any
(22:27):
continuity in the Batman movies really likefor the first like the first two maybe,
but even in Batman Returns with Catwomanand stuff, they didn't really reference
anything from the first movie, Likethere were never There were very separate,
different, very different movies. Thatwas just very telling of what was going
on at that time. It waslike each to Eat the rich movie.
(22:49):
There was a a white privilege moviewhere he just got to do whatever he
wanted to do. The trilogy hadsome symmetry happened that did have it did
kind of like it did kind oflike hang together decently, but you know,
the Batman like it's like every timethey did a new guy, they
started like a whole series so it'sjust like you can say whatever you want
(23:15):
to say. But it's just like, can people just have their entertainment,
Like even the Spider Man movies,Like every time they cast a new Spider
Man, yeah, they start over. It wouldn't make sense. It wouldn't
make sense in the way that Marvelis set up for them to recast to
childa and act like nothing right everything, Oh yeah, we'll just have it,
(23:37):
We'll just that mean would be evenan even bigger problem. I feel
like it would because it's like Ifeel like it would. I'm not laughing
at that part. I feel likeit would because I immediately thought of Roadie
getting replaced in Ironman. Can youimagine Terrence Howard getting shot out the sky
by vision? Oh? He foundlike Tony, I'm sign dead stick?
(24:07):
Can you imagine that? Thum?I just feel like Terence Tower being replaced
was a was a good move.Um, it was a good move.
But he didn't have as much ofa cultural impact as Chadwick Boseman had,
so him getting replaced was like necessaryand it made this storyline just move.
(24:27):
And I feel like I can't thinkof his name. He's in everything though,
who plays Roadie now, uh,Don Cheedo. I don't know why
I can't remember his name, butI always every time I think of him,
I think of Crash because that's themovie that I remember seeing him in.
But um, but I feel likeI feel like even Terence Tower being
(24:48):
replaced by Don Cheedle, it wasIt wasn't Rody, wasn't a cultural impact.
Yeah, but I feel like ithow much impact Chadwick Boseman had as
the Black Panther, there was noother way to really do it other than
honoring the role that he played andthen making room for those who are coming
(25:11):
next. Yeah, I got tomove the story forward, like it's not
saying like, Okay, we're tryingto cover over Chadwick or trying to make
it like we can't just sit inthat one character. Yeah, and there's
enough in the comics that it cancontinue and keep moving forward with the same
(25:33):
character that is Black Panther, butwith somebody else holding the mantle. Yeah,
and still honoring U Chadwick Boseman,still making sure that he's respected and
so that he's acknowledged to note,so that we can see how impactful his
portrayal was, because it was itwas a big deal. It's still a
big deal. Yeah, I wouldhave loved to see and this is the
only sad thing that I that Ithink about it. I would have loved
(25:56):
to see T'Challa's character as Chadwick Bozeman. Yeah, um bring in the X
Men by being forced to marry Stormlike that. I would have loved love
to see that. I mean,that's what I was excited for, like
the build up for as soon asFox bought or sorry, as soon as
um Marvel Disney. That's right,it's not Marvel. It's not Marvel as
(26:21):
Disney. But yeah, I feellike I was. I was really excited
to see that. I want tosee how that happens now since they can
say mutant now yea and word andsaid mum, but they were because it
was they were what was it?It was inhuman? I think, yeah,
(26:41):
they were in human? Yeah,all these were the words. No,
I didn't watch it because it didn'tpique my interests. You should know
what I did do the first episode. You know what I didn't do.
I didn't get online to talk aboutit. I didn't have to share my
opinion. I kind of want youto watch the first episode just that you
can see one characters hair, Icould probably do that. I would probably
(27:03):
do that just the first episode.Yeah. I like talking about movies.
This is good. I like seingmovies. Well, Jason, Um,
if you would like to go aheadand plug your information so people can follow
you, I don't know why whenyou said plug that time, we remind
me of the plug it in jingle, Um, plug it in jingle,
plug in, plug it in,plug it in. Oh okay, you
(27:26):
know. Yeah. You can findme on Yeah, there's no train of
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