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Oh judgment. When you want tocelebrate something with someone, right, You're
like, I got some good news. I got you know, this thing
happened, and I'm really excited andI want to share with somebody. Who
do you call um my mother,my mother, hands sound a mother?
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Or my brother? What is thelast thing that you were excited about that
you shared with them? Um?Probably? What's the last thing I was
excited about? Oh wow, that'sa therapy question. Um. Probably,
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Oh my god, I don't knowwhat was last half shared with you?
Have we stopped celebrating ourselves? Andwhat was the last thing I shared with
you? I mean from today orpreviously? Previously? I guess because you
started payment. You started let's let'ssee, you started paying management. You're
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not getting a tattooed in in thecoming months. But the job situation,
you being promoted to the supervisor.That was one. Yeah, that was
one. I guess. The lastthing that I was like excited excited about
was, um, probably just likerecord store finds that I found that I
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like going to record stories and findand stuff like that. Those are the
last things that I was excited about. And with that, I called both
of my brothers just set that upbecause like one of them was a record
that my older brother had been lookingfor a Parliament record for a while.
He just told me that I justneed Parliament records. So I found one
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that I also found the band's album. I that I owned the CD too
back when it first came out.Why it was actually an album. It
was an album that it almost hadalmost look okay, is it for the
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nostalgia today? Well? Yeah,for the vinyl I bought that for nostalgia.
It was five dollars, like comeon, um for the the CD
that I bought when they first cameout in retrospect, I can't say why
I bought it. I just can't. I can't. Um. It was
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a decision that Jason made, andit's a decision that Jason has had to
live with for some time. Um. It's not something I can rectify now.
I need you to forgive me.In hindsight. I hope you can
find it in your heart to forget. I mean, I guess I can.
I can. I can pray onit. I can try to let
that go. I can try tolet that go. Yeah, I think
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those well, no, okay,Actually, the last thing that I was
really like excited about was um andcelebrated was like the first time I did
ten miles on the exercise bike becausethat and that's sort of become a normal.
I've had to dial it back becauseI'd like to do it every day,
so I'm like at seven now eachday. But that hitting the ten
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mile mark the first two times wasa celebrated something I celebrated because it's a
marker of how far I've come withlike the pay management stuff and um,
build my endurance and stuff. Sothat was it as well two weeks ago.
Okay, see it took me aminute to get there. How did
you How did you celebrate it?Gummy? Uh take a trip? Yeah
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yeah yeah, And actually just alittle celebration from myself, patting myself on
the back. I just cheered myself. I'm like, hey, you did
that, you did that? Notrest it's okay, and just talking myself
up really, and then the gummycame later in the day. I can't
do midday gummies. We got thingsto do, yeah, yeah, things
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to do. We gotta be whatwas the last thing you celebrated. So
this period of time has been veryhard for me to find reasons to celebrate
even when I do have wins.Um, it was hard for me to
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find somebody who I would like tobother with that with that um yeah okay,
so I would just say um ohlast week I got um. I
applied or not started. Two weeksago I applied for a program called Professional
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Skills Training my job where they takemanagers, leaders, etc. And put
them like in project management spaces,which is what I realized, thank you
unto Lenetta, is what I wantto do it for my career. It's
project manishment. And I got intoit hoping to connect with more people across
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the company. And so I appliedthe application a breeze because I'm me.
But it was just like I thought, because they put a limit of like
three pages, and I was like, how much are people writing? And
I realized that I can say thingsvery succinctly if I want to. When
I'm speaking more professionally, it's easierfor me to say things in a more
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succinct manner. But but when Isent it off to an alumni and said,
hey, it's this good because it'sonly a page of the quarter,
and she said, no, no, no, no, it looks great.
Okay, no problem, I submittedit. They accepted the application and
told me that I moved on tothe next round, and I was just
like, oh, I got theinterview, And then as soon as I
read the email, I was like, I want to call I don't know
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who to call. I wanna andI and yes, there are people in
my life who I can call tocelebrate. So if you are listening,
don't feel slighted. I just didn'tfeel like there were there was any better
in my life who I wanted tobother with the news because the excitement wouldn't
be shared because I would have tofirst tell you what the program is,
give you the background of the program, and they kind of like deflates the
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celebration towards the end. So um, I kind of just like help that
in because they said, oh,you have an interview on Friday. I
said, okay, cool. Idid the interview. Interview went great,
and they told me they'll let meknow. Um, they'll let me know
this week if I got into theprogram. So yeah, but Betty buddon
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on here, like, um,the last thing I shared I think my
sister and her family was there whenI joined church on Sunday, and I
shared with my mom. I gottacall my dad because I completely forgot to
call him today to tell him thatI enjoined church. But yeah, that
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was probably like the last thing thatI that I shared. And I just
don't like I feel like in thispoint in my life where I am and
all the growth and all that kindof stuff, it makes it hard because
I'm so bogged down by any byeverything else to feel like I can bother
somebody. See there's that where youkeep saying bothering. I don't want to.
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I don't want to. I don'twant to reach out. And then
if I send a text and weknow how busy we can get, and
it takes three days to be like, oh, snap, I didn't miss
the text, and then yeah,why are you gonna call me out like
that? I'm just I didn't callI didn't say any names. I didn't
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did you say I didn't say anynames? That wasn't me. I didn't
say any names. I just saidI didn't want to send a text.
And then three days later I geta text about I get it. It's
not even that I get a textback. I'll send a message out and
then three days later I'll get ameme or a real or a reaction to
a story, but not a responseto be a text or a phone callback.
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So what I say, I don'twant to bother somebody. That's that's
what I mean. I have generalanxiety disorder. Okay, I say,
I mean no, I'll do betterwith that. I'm gonna do better with
that. We've all under staying thisfor a few years. But it's okay.
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I know who you are. Ihad been doing I had been doing
well. You have to give methat, yes, But like I said,
I'll do better because I mean inwe're both like growing in the spaces
that we're in. And so that'swhy I that's why I say when I
don't want to bother people, Like, I know my civilic they're busy.
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I know, I know my parentsare busy. I know that my friends
are busy because they have so muchgoing on, and so I try to,
like I try to just like kindof wait in the wings and be
like, hey, you know,if they reach out, then cool.
But I'll send out a text tobe like, hey, make sure you're
still alive. I'll like good stuff. Oh, I see you posting on
social media. That's great and We'llcatch up and chat when we have time.
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But I don't want to be burdensome. You're one of the middle children,
aren't you. I am one ofthe oldest, but not the oldest.
I'm not the oldest now, okay, so yeah, okay, checks
out. Okay, Yeah, andeither said I am not the oldest,
I am the second oldest, orI am the fourth oldest. The middle
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child never wants to bother, wantsto be a bother. I will do
better. Well, I know howimposing I can be because of my extrovertedness,
just except my I will do better. Don't make excuses for people not
showing up for you. No,it's not even It's not that I'm making
any excuse for people not showing upbecause that and I don't think that's fair
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to say that people are not showingup. I think it's more fair to
say that I take away the opportunityfor people to show up, because I
don't want to be in a situationwhere it's kind of a well, there's
something better, so I'm going tochoose that thing over you kind of thing.
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And so I just kind of whichmy sister and I talked about,
was, you know, She's justlike, just give me the choice,
like, let me tell you no, don't don't make the choice for me.
And I'm just like, yeah,but you got your family. She's
like, let me say no,still ask and I was just like,
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but also, I don't want tobother you. I thought about another thing
that I celebrated recently. We gotcelebrations going on. Yeah, so another
thing that I've celebrated recently is myreducing my contact um insertion time, Like
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today it was less than thirty seconds. It was like, look at you.
So it was like, yeah,yeah, closer to twenty, but
m M, maybe thirty. Whatare you doing for thirty minutes? Like
you you put the thing in yourhand, you wet the thing, you
clean the thing, open your eye, do you like? What helps me
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is shooting the eye open and putit directly on. I just really touched.
I can't do that ball you shouldyou shouldn't do that. I can't
look at it. I put iton the white of my eye instead.
And then sort of I found thatif I go my round, yeah,
wiggle my um. At first Iwasn't wiggle on my finger, but so
TikTok said, wiggle your finger andit'll release. Um. Because the main
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problem that I had folding wasn't anissue nothing like that. It just wouldn't
let go my finger. Um No, it wasn't wet enough. Yeah,
so I doubt and then yeah,I douse it and then I wiggle my
finger or I'll just wiggle my eyeballa little bit and it'll just let go
and then I'll just mature. Itdoesn't fall out, the hardest part for
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me is that it takes me aboutten minutes to get my contacts out.
Yeah, to take him out,I'll just kind of fold my um eyelid
and just use my eyelid to tocreate the other that would burn. No,
it doesn't burn. No, Ijust do not fold the eyelid.
I just kind of pushed the eyelidinto my eye and then just just fight,
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fight with our eyeballs. Just giveme some glasses, I'll be okay.
Yeah, there's a thing where ifI do this to my eye.
Okay. When I was trying totake my contact out during the fitting,
I accidentally pinched the white of myeye, and I swear to myself that
I would never do that again.So I haven't even attempted that again.
But that's how I think find out. I lift my eyeball open and then
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I take my fingers and I takeit out like that on my on the
eye. People irish thing it isbarbaran. Just pop it out. It's
better than like fishing for it witha Q tip. Who does it?
I saw a TikTok not TikTok instagrambefore. This is before. Look,
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if they don't want you to putQ tips in your ears, what do
you think they will say about puttingque tips in your eyes? But think?
Oh no, Everyone, Welcome toanother episode of Take a Space Podcast.
I am your hostly and joined bymy costar Jason. That it is
springtime, and with it being spring, I actually did a TikTok back in
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January, around the beginning of theyear, and so many people were doing
vision boards and setting goals and itwas all these trendy things, and so
the TikTok pretty much said that,like it's still dark outset, like it
gets stark at four o'clock. Whyare we trying to set new goals?
Why are we starting new habits?Why are we why are we setting ourselves
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up for failure so early in theyear. Let's let's go ahead, take
a nap, Let's wait till itwarms up. We'll come back to the
drawing board and try again. We'restill hibernating. It's okay, yeah,
like it's it's okay, let's notdo that in January. So I feel
like now that I feel like nowthat we're in April and we're in the
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thick of spring, like now's thetime. Now that the weather is warmer,
it's like the sun is out alot longer. People are planting things,
people are trying, like, nowis the time to try to develop
new habits. You're more likely tostick with a habit when you have that
energy to keep going. So whetherit's you, you know, wanting to
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do a half a mile walk aday, whether it's you wanting to bike,
you know, seven miles a day, or whether it's you know,
juicing, or it's talking to people. People are actually outside now, like
whether you're mask on or mask off, like interacting with people in real life,
you can do that now people areoutside, whether it's taking a trip,
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whether it is trying a new skill, whether it's getting certified in something.
Whatever you're doing except scamming, don'tscam like, don't don't scam,
don't do that. But when you'retrying, when you want to build those
new habits, it's just good todo it in the springtime. It just
makes more sense to do it inthe springtime instead of because I don't know
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how many times I have tried tostart a habit in December. J Yeah,
and I'm just like, yeah,I'm going to do this and actually
stick with it. M I'm tryingto think when I started doing yoga,
and I think that was maybe summer, like last summer, Yeah, because
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it was around the time that um, I had downtime and that became a
daily habit. And then trying tothink of habits that I tried to form
in the cold times, there arenone because I don't normally try to form
habits. So it's hibernating time.You are trying to reserve, preserve,
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reserve, preserve all the energy thatyou have and even hybernally. Huh,
why don't we hibernate? We shouldbe hibernating. Everybody gets tired and depressed
at the time of year anyway,because we're supposed to be sleep capitalism mhmm.
Kids should have a winter breaks,just like they have two months off
for summer. They should have Decemberand January off. I wish we can.
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We can have year round school again, Like not even gonna lie you
have it? No, because weOakland never did year round school. We
were always in oak Contrast. Yeah, you were in Alameda County. No,
then we were in Oakland Unified SchoolDistrict. Okay, we were in
contrast and um yeah we sixth grade, Yeah it was, but by sixth
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grade they had gotten rid of yearround school. Um. But I think
they only did year round school throughfourth I think our fourth Yeah, because
I wasn't a year ahead of youuntil seventh grade. Um, but yeah,
we did year round school. Wehad two months on, one month
off. I liked it because Iliked being in school. And when we
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were out of school, we hadlike enough time to reach our didn't do
summer camps or do like camps andstuff like that, and then we were
back in school, and so itfelt like for me, it felt like
I was in school all the time. But I specifically have a memory.
I have a specific memory and mymother saying that she's glad the year that
they switched from year round to regularschool, which is weird. They called
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it year round versus regular school.When they switched to the regular school year,
my mom was like, oh,my gosh, I'll be still happen
when they go to regular school becauseit feels like they're out of school more
more now than they are than they'rein school. And I was like,
but how we're in school for twomonths for every month that we're out.
But I felt like I was inschool at the time, but I really
like school. I was on theyellow track and each track was off a
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different month of the year, Soyeah, I don't know why they wanted
to switch me to blue track.And then no, I was on blue
track. And then I went toyellow track, and I didn't like my
teachers. That's to switch back topeace. What was your name? Um,
So I had a couple of teachers. Missus Smith was like, I
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didn't really I didn't really get alongwith her that well. And then mister
Hammock, Oh my gosh, I'msurprised that she's named my pain. Oh.
And then I had him again inseventh grade, and then I had
him again in um. I hadhim again a seventh grade, and I
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had him again in my sophomore yearin high school. I was like,
I can't go away from this,man, I can't get away, Like
why do they keep putting my No? But yeah, starting starting new habits.
I feel like in the darker months, it doesn't it doesn't. There's
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no like real what do you callit, um gauge of like success.
No, if someone was going tosay progress, M don't want to say
the tracking of success. The progress. Yes, it's hard to track progress
in the darker months, like ifyou're not doing something that has like an
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angle, like if you are goingback to school, if you are trying
to learn to cook. I don'tknow, what are some new what are
some new skills that people would ornew skills or habits that people would try
to develop, even learning languages generally. Yeah, with that kind of thing.
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Um yeah no, just now thatit's spring time and now is the
time to try those things. Whetheryou want to be a um um um
not a not a a creator,a content creator? My my word,
you so what what? What what'sit called? What? What's it?
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You know? You know what happens. The sad thing is my sleep has
been off for the last two weeksor sorry for the last week, and
a half because the half of thehalf of last week was fine, and
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then um, the a few daysbefore my flight, I don't like if
I if I leave early, Idon't sleep. And so when I took
the flight, um, I didn'thave any sleep. And then I get
back home and I couldn't. Mysleep patterns just never never got into a
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routine. So what I did whenI start trying to go to sleep like
later, like right now, it'slike what eleven, And I'm like trying
to go to sleep later so Ican sleep later or sleep the night,
and it's just it's not I stillwake up about four or five. It's
like, oh, four or fivehours asleep or five or six hours asleep.
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You're fine, like you you gotenough sleep. And then I end
up taking a longer or multiple napsthroughout the day, not just my one
good nap, it's multiple naps throughoutthe day. And then I'm like,
okay, thirty six hit hard,huh? It did? When we tell
you that interestingly interesting thing about sleepthat I learned from the pain management clinic,
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where I'm buying into everything that theysell me, it's a cult.
At this point, apparently he talkedabout how the new psychology the payment the
pain psychologist talked about how the newscience is that, um, the eight
hours of sleeping eight hours a night, that's a mythst basically, and that
it's not about the quantity of sleepthat you get, it's the quality.
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So even if I'm that for me, if I eat, if for a
sleep not eat, if I sleepeight hours, If I eat eight hours,
that's a happy day for me.But if I sleep eight hours,
that's like I wake up feeling worse. If I'm at stop laughing, I'm
not. I didn't say anything whatyou call it. I didn't say say
anything. I said stop laughing.But um, I found that if I
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get like maybe five or six hoursof sleep, I feel good, which
is weird, Like it's really weird. But um, just even letting go
of that mindset of that I needto sleep like eight hours otherwise, UM,
I'm gonna feel like crapper. I'mnot doing it right. So do
you know how much sleep is optimalfor you? Like when you get a
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good night of sleep, how much? How much is it eight hours?
Five or six? Five or six? And that's I think my frustration is
not that my frustration is that I'mnot a warning person, rights, but
I wake up at five or sixwithout an alarm because I'm doing it before
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the sun comes up. And I'mjust gonna let me So I'm like,
okay, let me just go backto sleep, right, that's it.
I'm like, okay, it isfive thirty. Let me okay, you
know what, I'm gonna go ahead, drink some water, take my vitamins.
I'm not gonna turn on the TV. I'm not going to turn on
the computer. I'm not gonna geton my phone. I'll just play some
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music, um, and then I'lllay back down. An hour later,
I am still wide awake. Yes, it's like the mind, the mind,
the mentality for me, I'm nota morning person, but for whatever
reason, my body is insistent thatI am going to become a morning right
right. I don't want to becomethat person that that I don't want to
become that person that in like latethirties, I'm like, oh, like
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at about six thirty in the morningnow and I have a coffee and I'm
doing great. No, let mehold on to this one, this one
vestige of my youth, which isthe night out. There's no reason I
should be able same time. Ihave a tattoo that says, seize the
night. I can't let go ofthis. I just like I never I
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never thought. I never thought aboutarticulating it that way. But that makes
so much sense because I mean,well, the sleep said, and it's
not when when you say new science, it's like new within the last twenty
years. And um, and that'swhen I remember, I don't know if
you remember when I was telling youabout this a while ago. This is
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when I had very high hopes thatI could actually work three jobs still in
my thirties and um, teach atthe same time. I don't know why
I thought I would be able todo that, but um, it was
like, go to school worth threejobs and I'll be fine. But by
fastic sleep, which is um,you your sleep is essentially broken up into
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two sections of the day. Soyou may sleep three or four hours at
night and then three or four hoursin the afternoon with whatever you have going
on. But when you look atother cultures, they just sleep when they
get tired, just like they eat. They don't have like breakfast, lunch,
dinner. They just eat when theyget hungry. And so I feel
like now listening more to my body, paying attention to how my body responds,
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which is why I was more interestedin doing If I was going to
build new skills, new habits,set resolutions, or whatever the case,
new goals like it made sense todo when my body felt great, which
was in the springtimes and so andso I was going to start doing by
fastic sleep. But what I'm noticingis that I do it doesn't matter how
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what time I go to bed.I am waking up, Like I get
tired for real at like eleven,eleven thirty. I can't stay up till
one or two. But then I'mlike, I mean, it's just where
am I where I live in thesuburbs. There's nothing going on here right
right? Like everything everything closed downaround nine, like there's nothing else going
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on. Um, so so I'mlike, let me just go to bed
around eleven. Like I've watched allthe things I want to watch, I've
paid, I've you know, watchingmy social media as I thought that I
wanted to a couple hours a dayor whatever. Yeah, but um but
if I go to sleep around elevenagain, I'm waking up at six.
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If I go to sleep at midnight, I'm waking up at six seven like
the ladies. I'll get up atseven, and most of the time I'm
up around five or six and Ihave nothing to do. But I'm wide
awake and I'm not logging into workthree hours early, because why what's happening?
I'm not setting that expectation. Whois what I am? No,
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So I try to take longer withmy longer with my routine. So what
I have been doing is trying toum utilize that time to build the habits
that I want. So if Ihave goals like right now, I um,
some of you know, or someof the listeners know, I just
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enrolled in school to get my degreein human resources and so um I'll be
finishing that next year, thank god. So um, when I'm up at
five or six, even though Idon't want to do anything, I have
taken steps my to to be moreproductive. So step one get back into
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meditation and devotion. I was toask, are you yeah, how are
you making sure that you center yourselfat the beginning of the day. Oh?
Absolutely like that And that's a goodpoint, like making sure that your
day is set up for success bymaking sure that you you're not going down
to do list of what you haveto do for everyone else? But how
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how are you setting yourself up forsix as by giving yourself what you need
and doing for yourself what you wantto do. So if you're like,
man, I really want to goto Coastal Creamery because I want to go
to Coastal Creamery, like how areyou going to you know, set your
day of to be able to achievethose things? Or I really want to
go to the gym, or Iwant to connect with this person, or
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I want to complete this assignment,or I want to meet this goal.
And so I started doing devotion,which has led to more meditation. But
if I know, if I sayI want to do devotion, meditation,
homework, and then like shower andwork and stuff, I know that automatically
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that's too much stuff on my plan. Yeah, but I know naturally doing
devotion, which includes my prayer time, leads to more meditation time, which
would lead to meet being By thetime I finished meditation, now I know
it's time to start my day,so I can do it. Creates a
ritual, right, get your daystart on a good foot. Basically,
yeah, it's working for progress,But also why why why why are we
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morning people? Now? I don'tknow. Like Jordan, at this point,
he's like waking because the dog iswaking him up at like six third
judical outside. He has acclimated toit. He's gotten to the point where
he's like, yeah, I'll goto the seven o'clock gym or class at
the Yeah, dude, Like Ihear him leaving in the morning, I'm
just like, dude, you betterthan me, because listen, I don't
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start working until ten thirty on Tuesdaysand Thursdays, and some days I get
out of bed too late to makeit to the gym before I start working,
and I work from home. Sothat's saying something like it literally is
how am I feeling that day?That's I think that's part of the reason
why I'm not a morning person.It's like, Okay, how am I
feeling that day? And then Ihave to meet that that Jason meet whichever
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Jason's there to day, like moodwise, pain wise, just where my
nervous system is that day, andthat takes a while. It takes me
for about like an hour or twojust to figure out, like, Okay,
how am I feeling today? AmI gonna this is gonna be a
good day or I'm gonna be stiff. I'm a key am I gonna be
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very grouchy today? What do Iwant to wear today? Like? What
face do I want to wear today? Basically? And I feel like having
tasks to do in the morning whereI have to it seemed to sound harsh,
but where I have to pollute myselfwith other people's wants and needs and
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expectations and stuff. It interrupts myflow and me trying to make sure that
I'm where I need to be,like that I'm centered with myself instead of
trying to attend to someone else ortrying to meet some kind of goal for
class. So for some people itworks, but I'm more like you where
I have to sit in it fora minute, meditate, maybe stretch a
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little bit, and then start theday. Yeah, I can't just jump
up and get it get out ofit unless I'm running late. But even
then that's an interruption to the ritualum. But I don't know. I
don't know if that's sustainable though,Like I know parents do it all the
time. I know where they're wherethey're up, and like, oh man,
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I gotta get up, get thekids on the bus, get the
kids to school, make sure theyhave breakfast, and um, you know,
even even with with people going towork, would they have like,
oh, they have this meeting,they have this, they have that.
Like I'm gonna tell you something.Work does not get me out of it,
That's not who I am. Workedabsolutely does not get me out of
bed. Yes, I like whatI do. Yes, it pays the
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bills. Um, I'm okay withwhere I'm at, But it does not
get me out of bed. Andum, when you have those external pressures
to perform, especially immediately, itmakes it difficult for you to sustain it
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for a long period of time.And that's how a lot of people get
get burnout. They get they're like, oh my gosh, if you can
just oh gosh, I can.I got to take like there's there's no
there's no break, there's no this. And they consistently have other people's kneeds
before theirs because if they wanted tosleep in, they couldn't because maybe they
have to drive their spouts to work. Yeah, and if they don't get
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their spouts to work, then it'sgoing to be a problem and this and
that, and it's just like it'sit's a lot. And so that's why
it's like I can appreciate the spaceand time that I'm in right now where
I can focus on r Leah,what do you want to do? Yeah?
And um, I can but alsobe have that accountability or responsibility with
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myself of not um procrastinating as longbecause it would take because basically when this
first started happening, it would takeme three or four hours to get out
of it because I'm up at I'mup at six, and then why why
do I have to be up atsix? Like I no, and so,
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um, I've just decided to worktill night? Why why? Why?
Now, I think that's part ofthe problem. Like we look at
it from an analytical knowing who bothof us are. We're like, okay,
why am I waking up at six? Instead of just accepting like okay,
yeah, I'm waking up at six? How can I start my day?
Instead of we're looking at it backwardswhere it's like, Okay, why
am I waking up so early?How can I not wake up so early?
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Instead of us meeting where it's atyou know what I mean, because
I'm not waking up early like exhaustedlike, oh my gosh, I woke
up in the middle of of ofa sleep cycle and I can't get back
like I'm rested. I am wideaway feel good for it was a good
night of sleep, but it's notwhen I plan to wake up, like
waking up before the alarm and stuff, right, So I do. I'm
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trying to get out of the habitof napping so well. Before I went
to church, I, um,I will go to sleep at I'll wait.
I woke up at five five am, five thirty five or five thirty
I woke I woke up. No, I woke up at five and a
church. Yeah, I woke upat five am. I was like,
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I am not going to sunrise service. I got some water. We are
in case I wanted to do anything, and I think this is what helps
me in case I wanted to doanything. I drink my water and I
washed my face, and I brushmy teeth because I don't want to go
to back to sleep with funky breath. So I'll go brush my teeth and
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then I'll get back in the bedand I'll and I'll take a nap for
like an hour or two. Um, and then I get up again to
start my day. But I'm tryingto get out of that that after wake
up nap so that my day started. Yeah. One thing that I found
has helped me a lot, justwith UM not really feeling like I have
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too many expectations, like like startingwork early. I don't schedule any I
don't set up to have any meetingsor appointments like right when I start work,
like at nine o'clock or whatever.I make sure that I don't tutor
that early. I don't tutor um, I don't have meetings that early or
anything like that. Like I'd liketo step into work and get a feel
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for what's going on first, giveabout pacing, and then start interfacing with
people, right right, Let merealize that with every process. Yeah,
let me settle in for a minute. Let me see how the waves of
moving, see what's going on.If it's chaotic, let me jump in,
but not have to try to savesomebody else at the same time.
If it's chaos, let me getmy popcorn. What happened? Who did
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you want? Somebody kept me upon? I'm so far more from all
the drama stuff. I love hearingabout all the drama. Art Um offices
isn't it like cool? From that, Like you get to watch through the
placi glass like you don't have Yeah, like you're on the other side of
the mirror. You don't have tobe involved at all. My thing is
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all the drama that's happening like inproximity to my center. Quite frankly,
I don't get paid enough to careto be in the drama like I do
not like it's above my prey gradefar. But I can just watch it
and I could see it. Ithink I've said it a few times to
um, like my one of myco workers, the person who's my direct
(37:36):
um equal. Basically, I'm like, quite frankly, I don't get paid
enough to worry about this stuff,so let me know what's going on with
it. And she's like, nowthat I think about it, I don't
either, So like, listen,act your wage. Okay, act your
wage I don't have. I don'tcomplain about how much you make at this
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point. I don't make a lot. We know that because I work in
a ucation. You do the math. But I have learned, oh my
gosh, I have learned to sacrificefinancial prosperity for happiness with what I do
I like what I do, butI also recognize that there are certain things
that I don't have to worry aboutbecause of how black luster the pay is.
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And that's okay, Yeah, that'sfine. I'm happy with what I
do the most part, and it'snot anything that you have to like justify
to anybody, you know what Imean, Like we're at the just like
like people are just like, so, what are you gonna do? I
remember when I when I first saidI wanted to be a teacher, I
wanted to go into education, AndI didn't know what he meant until after
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I told my parents what he said. Um, he said, you know
what poverty is. I was likeyeah, he said you better get used
to it. And I was like, who is this somebody at church?
Like it was like one of theolder deacons whatever, and I was just
like okay, but yeah, soit's it's I'm glad that we have like
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moved past that and we're matured pasttrying to get other people to buy in
to our own journey. If itwas really good to just just do it
because we love it, like whetherit leads to something great or something mediocre
or nothing at all, Like Idid it because I wanted to do it
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like I'm good in this moment withit, right, that's what it is.
But about this morning thing, weneed to what do we do?
Because I would like to experience likea nice long night of sleep again,
you know what I mean. Ibut see, just like you said,
sleeping eight hours can make one tired. I can't. I used to be
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able the only time now in recentin recent months that I've been able to
sleep as long as if I don'tfeel good. Before I used to get
in a good I can sleep asmooth ten twelve hours and being up and
running right, But now if Ido try to sleep, I'll be sluggish
and need to sleep more to sleepoff the previous sleep. Yeah right,
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exactly exactly asleep hanging over. SoI feel like this is a moment to
embrace this, yeah, um,knowing that we're still both night owls were
recording, but I ate yeah,but I feel like but I feel like
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with the new sket what is itcalled sarcadian rhythm that that our bodies are
on, um using that to ouradvantage. So I don't feel like I've
wasted the day, but I knowthat when I do have that time before
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the sun comes up, because Iam not getting out of bed to be
active in any part. And maybeit could be that. Um, because
I have been looking for a gym, like a circuit training or a crossbit
gym to go to that has likea good schedule. But if I'm if
I'm going to be consistent in gettingup at five, it makes sense that
I would just go to a crossfit in the morning, but m or
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go do circuit training or something inthe morning. But I'm not there yet.
I'm still with the I'm still withmeditation. I'm slowly building. Do
you meditate in bed or do youget out of bed to meditate? Um?
It depends. Mostly I'm in bedbecause I haven't set up my Remember
(41:51):
how we were talking about our zenspace in our bedrooms. I haven't set
up my zen space yet, andso I'm working to set that up because
that will be the place that Iwill get out of bed to go to.
But I like that I can.I don't. I'm not laying on
the floor. I can lay inthe bed without the covers on me and
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be in my meditative position and tomy deep breathing. Yeah, and then
my body like I can feel mybody like relax and go through those kind
of meditative states, and that helpsme and I have been able to do
it like before, after about fiveor six minutes, I'll go back to
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sleep, but now I'm like ableto do it for like fifteen twenty minutes
and not be and get a fullmeditative session in and then kind of decide
if I want to go back tosleep or get up and start my day.
How long do you typically wait beforeyou start the process. This is
the vice section because I want someadvice. I'm building this ritual and the
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routine from myself in the morning.How long do you typically are you typically
awake before you begin that process.I have to make the decision as soon
as I wake up to do it, okay, because if you give yourself,
yeah, if you if you giveyourself an out, you will take
the out. Or if I givemyself an out, I will take the
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out. Oh, let me justlet me just see what's going on on
YouTube? Who posted a new video? Let me check up on um,
what's happened in the news. Letme see you know who's new on the
Daily Show? Um, let mesee who who posted about this? Yeah,
and so what I do is.I don't give myself the opportunity to
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make that decision, like the decisionis already made. Okay, I'm up.
Am I actually up? Or amI kind of groggy? Up?
No, I'm actually up. Okay, I'm actually up. Let me get
my UM. And that's why Iwant to create a zen corner so that
I can start journaling, because that'smostly what I would use that for.
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But right now, I set myGoogle to play my music and um,
like the meditative music. I domy devotion, read my scripture, say
my prayers, um, and thengo into meditation. And so I don't
I don't really give myself too muchtime between the time that I know that
(44:25):
I'm alert. I don't know whatyou're looking at. But it's freaking me
out a little bit. I heardokay, I thought I did. Okay,
but yes, so, UM,I don't give myself too much time
between the time that I realized thatI'm alert. Yeah, it's like automatically,
Okay, I realized that I'm awake. Let me go ahead and grab
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my devotion and um, you know, so that I'm not like looking at
social media get distracted by you know, other stuff that our phones have on
them. It's like, let's dothis, just do It's just a reflex.
Okay, okay, I'm gonna trythat tomorrow. It helps. It
helps to have a plan because thisis also what um someone else was someone
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else was talking about having a plan. So when a situation occurs, you're
not you're not essentially punched in theface and trying to figure out what to
do. Yeah, so I havethe plan in place, you know what
to do, right for example,Um, for example, waking up,
I know when I wake up,I want to do my devotion first.
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Yes, there are days where Idon't do my devotion first because I'm feeling
a little crappy and I want,you know, somebody, I want some
music that's gonna make me feel good. Yea, So I may I may
skip, you know, or pushit out for for an hour or so,
or I may tenarao back to sleep. Um. But just like how
if you're allergic to peanuts and youwere to be in an environment, you
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have to check before you get thefood does this have peanuts in it?
Or if you're in a situation withsomeone who may cause you harm, like
you know, to avoid that situation, you know to not be around that
person by yourself. There are somany things that you have to make the
decision before it happened. So whenyou're trying to develop new habits, new
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skills, when you know that hurdleslike you get bored or you don't you
are stuck, or you feel likeyou've reached a hurdle that you can't get
over. You know, have youhave your accountability partner on the phone,
have your mentor available to you,you know, set some things in place.
Maybe maybe take a step back fromit and come back to it.
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Maybe seven am it's not the besttime for you. Maybe seven pm you're
more alert for it, Like there'sother things to do. Just make a
plan so that when you do reacha hurdle in creating new skills and habits,
that that hurdle is not going tokeep you from achieving your goal.
It takes sixty two days for ahuman being to create need a habit,
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and if you can make it today sixty three, you have created muscle
memory for that habit to continue.So I know there's a lot of books
that's twenty one day habit, butum, there are a few behavioral science,
human behavioral scientists that I follow,who all agree that sixty two days
is the magic number for a habitto be created. I don't know why
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people. People are like, oh, twenty one day habit, but it
doesn't know. Twenty one day habitsthat I've tried has ever stuck. There's
not not a one, and I'vetried quite a few. You know,
one twenty one day habit that mightstick? Drugs, drugs. It's long
(47:47):
enough to become Wanda Deine. Ohgosh, no, no, no,
no, no no. The dayI got the by bless her, bless
I want, I want us to. I want Robert Towns in jail for
(48:08):
her directing that movie. Wait,that was Robert Townson's movie. Why do
they always do Alfree Woodard like that? Why is she always a crackhead?
Why she always taking these rolls Likeit's like the opposite of Megan Good being
typecast as a girlfriend all the time. Like, I don't understand. Why
(48:30):
did they do Alfree Woodard like nowthat she's older, she's playing somebody's mother.
But ma'am made her she, Imean, she made her baby living
playing crackheads. I mean she was, I mean, well around that time
she wasn't crookling too, but sheshe just did just too good of a
(48:50):
job in that movie. And Ijust can't see it less her Alfree Woodard,
I've never been able. Okay,so real quick before we go.
Lorenz Tate, Alfrey Woodard are twopeople where I can't just like imagine people
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calling them just by their first names. Al Freme, al Freme. That's
that. It sounds incomplete. Yeah, it just goes together. Her name
is Alfrey Woodard. Like if I'vemet her, I would just I would
call her, you know, miss. This is whatever Alfrey Woodard for.
You know, mister Lorenz Tate.I can't say lorenz Hey, Lorens.
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Yeah, it's like there's something mixingmissing from it, right, Like there's
there In the real life example ofthis, there's a drummer he um,
his name is. His name isWilson Brooks. We were introduced as Minister
Wilson Brooks. I could never notcall him minister Wilson Brooks. He's all
in my fit. My siblings dothe same thing. We all call him
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minister Wilson Brooks. It's never beenminister Brooks, minister Wilson, or mister
Wilson. Is never is Minister WilsonBrooks. And he's like, why do
your kids call me about my wholename? Like he's like when he came
over into the house, he wasasking my dad. It's just like,
why do they call me by mywhole name? It goes together. That's
(50:20):
what you introduced and says like youdid respectful. Yeah, that's all it
is, like just call my wholegovernment by Minister Wilson Brooks. I hope
you've been inspired and this episode tocreate new habits and not to feel bad
when your body is doing things likeonly sleeping for five or six hours a
(50:44):
night, or if your body issleeping longer and using that time to rest
and rejuvenate and all those great things. That's a good thing, right,
Listen to your body. Yeah,use your circadian rhythm to it to its
advantage. Don't think of it asa bad thing. I mean, we're
night owls living early birds. Sobut is life really it's against our will?
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Really, that's that's honestly what itis that hot morning refugees or something
nighttime refugees. We don't have ahome in this early hour, but to
make peace and make do with whatwe have that's honestly where we're at right
now. But yes, um,thank you so much for tuning in to
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Okay, but I think I mightbegin a crusade to officially change the
name of your podcast a test.I don't know now. I think it
could probably do like a change jobto work, petition, maybe get Biden.
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I'm like this, I'm like somesome medication. Just imagine saying no,
I'm not I'm not doing that.No, stop it stop it got It's
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(53:23):
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Oh judgment. When you want tocelebrate something with someone, right, You're
like, I got some good news. I got you know, this thing
happened, and I'm really excited andI want to share with somebody. Who
do you call um my mother,my mother, hands sound a mother?
(00:22):
Or my brother? What is thelast thing that you were excited about that
you shared with them? Um?Probably? What's the last thing I was
excited about? Oh wow, that'sa therapy question. Um. Probably,
(00:45):
Oh my god, I don't knowwhat was last half shared with you?
Have we stopped celebrating ourselves? Andwhat was the last thing I shared with
you? I mean from today orpreviously? Previously? I guess because you
started payment. You started let's let'ssee, you started paying management. You're
(01:08):
not getting a tattooed in in thecoming months. But the job situation,
you being promoted to the supervisor.That was one. Yeah, that was
one. I guess. The lastthing that I was like excited excited about
was, um, probably just likerecord store finds that I found that I
(01:30):
like going to record stories and findand stuff like that. Those are the
last things that I was excited about. And with that, I called both
of my brothers just set that upbecause like one of them was a record
that my older brother had been lookingfor a Parliament record for a while.
He just told me that I justneed Parliament records. So I found one
(01:51):
that I also found the band's album. I that I owned the CD too
back when it first came out.Why it was actually an album. It
was an album that it almost hadalmost look okay, is it for the
(02:13):
nostalgia today? Well? Yeah,for the vinyl I bought that for nostalgia.
It was five dollars, like comeon, um for the the CD
that I bought when they first cameout in retrospect, I can't say why
I bought it. I just can't. I can't. Um. It was
(02:35):
a decision that Jason made, andit's a decision that Jason has had to
live with for some time. Um. It's not something I can rectify now.
I need you to forgive me.In hindsight. I hope you can
find it in your heart to forget. I mean, I guess I can.
I can. I can pray onit. I can try to let
that go. I can try tolet that go. Yeah, I think
(02:58):
those well, no, okay,Actually, the last thing that I was
really like excited about was um andcelebrated was like the first time I did
ten miles on the exercise bike becausethat and that's sort of become a normal.
I've had to dial it back becauseI'd like to do it every day,
so I'm like at seven now eachday. But that hitting the ten
(03:19):
mile mark the first two times wasa celebrated something I celebrated because it's a
marker of how far I've come withlike the pay management stuff and um,
build my endurance and stuff. Sothat was it as well two weeks ago.
Okay, see it took me aminute to get there. How did
you How did you celebrate it?Gummy? Uh take a trip? Yeah
(03:51):
yeah yeah, And actually just alittle celebration from myself, patting myself on
the back. I just cheered myself. I'm like, hey, you did
that, you did that? Notrest it's okay, and just talking myself
up really, and then the gummycame later in the day. I can't
do midday gummies. We got thingsto do, yeah, yeah, things
(04:14):
to do. We gotta be whatwas the last thing you celebrated. So
this period of time has been veryhard for me to find reasons to celebrate
even when I do have wins.Um, it was hard for me to
(04:36):
find somebody who I would like tobother with that with that um yeah okay,
so I would just say um ohlast week I got um. I
applied or not started. Two weeksago I applied for a program called Professional
(04:58):
Skills Training my job where they takemanagers, leaders, etc. And put
them like in project management spaces,which is what I realized, thank you
unto Lenetta, is what I wantto do it for my career. It's
project manishment. And I got intoit hoping to connect with more people across
(05:20):
the company. And so I appliedthe application a breeze because I'm me.
But it was just like I thought, because they put a limit of like
three pages, and I was like, how much are people writing? And
I realized that I can say thingsvery succinctly if I want to. When
I'm speaking more professionally, it's easierfor me to say things in a more
(05:42):
succinct manner. But but when Isent it off to an alumni and said,
hey, it's this good because it'sonly a page of the quarter,
and she said, no, no, no, no, it looks great.
Okay, no problem, I submittedit. They accepted the application and
told me that I moved on tothe next round, and I was just
like, oh, I got theinterview, And then as soon as I
read the email, I was like, I want to call I don't know
(06:05):
who to call. I wanna andI and yes, there are people in
my life who I can call tocelebrate. So if you are listening,
don't feel slighted. I just didn'tfeel like there were there was any better
in my life who I wanted tobother with the news because the excitement wouldn't
be shared because I would have tofirst tell you what the program is,
give you the background of the program, and they kind of like deflates the
(06:29):
celebration towards the end. So um, I kind of just like help that
in because they said, oh,you have an interview on Friday. I
said, okay, cool. Idid the interview. Interview went great,
and they told me they'll let meknow. Um, they'll let me know
this week if I got into theprogram. So yeah, but Betty buddon
(06:50):
on here, like, um,the last thing I shared I think my
sister and her family was there whenI joined church on Sunday, and I
shared with my mom. I gottacall my dad because I completely forgot to
call him today to tell him thatI enjoined church. But yeah, that
(07:12):
was probably like the last thing thatI that I shared. And I just
don't like I feel like in thispoint in my life where I am and
all the growth and all that kindof stuff, it makes it hard because
I'm so bogged down by any byeverything else to feel like I can bother
somebody. See there's that where youkeep saying bothering. I don't want to.
(07:34):
I don't want to. I don'twant to reach out. And then
if I send a text and weknow how busy we can get, and
it takes three days to be like, oh, snap, I didn't miss
the text, and then yeah,why are you gonna call me out like
that? I'm just I didn't callI didn't say any names. I didn't
(07:56):
did you say I didn't say anynames? That wasn't me. I didn't
say any names. I just saidI didn't want to send a text.
And then three days later I geta text about I get it. It's
not even that I get a textback. I'll send a message out and
then three days later I'll get ameme or a real or a reaction to
a story, but not a responseto be a text or a phone callback.
(08:22):
So what I say, I don'twant to bother somebody. That's that's
what I mean. I have generalanxiety disorder. Okay, I say,
I mean no, I'll do betterwith that. I'm gonna do better with
that. We've all under staying thisfor a few years. But it's okay.
(08:43):
I know who you are. Ihad been doing I had been doing
well. You have to give methat, yes, But like I said,
I'll do better because I mean inwe're both like growing in the spaces
that we're in. And so that'swhy I that's why I say when I
don't want to bother people, Like, I know my civilic they're busy.
(09:05):
I know, I know my parentsare busy. I know that my friends
are busy because they have so muchgoing on, and so I try to,
like I try to just like kindof wait in the wings and be
like, hey, you know,if they reach out, then cool.
But I'll send out a text tobe like, hey, make sure you're
still alive. I'll like good stuff. Oh, I see you posting on
social media. That's great and We'llcatch up and chat when we have time.
(09:26):
But I don't want to be burdensome. You're one of the middle children,
aren't you. I am one ofthe oldest, but not the oldest.
I'm not the oldest now, okay, so yeah, okay, checks
out. Okay, Yeah, andeither said I am not the oldest,
I am the second oldest, orI am the fourth oldest. The middle
(09:50):
child never wants to bother, wantsto be a bother. I will do
better. Well, I know howimposing I can be because of my extrovertedness,
just except my I will do better. Don't make excuses for people not
showing up for you. No,it's not even It's not that I'm making
any excuse for people not showing upbecause that and I don't think that's fair
(10:15):
to say that people are not showingup. I think it's more fair to
say that I take away the opportunityfor people to show up, because I
don't want to be in a situationwhere it's kind of a well, there's
something better, so I'm going tochoose that thing over you kind of thing.
(10:35):
And so I just kind of whichmy sister and I talked about,
was, you know, She's justlike, just give me the choice,
like, let me tell you no, don't don't make the choice for me.
And I'm just like, yeah,but you got your family. She's
like, let me say no,still ask and I was just like,
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but also, I don't want tobother you. I thought about another thing
that I celebrated recently. We gotcelebrations going on. Yeah, so another
thing that I've celebrated recently is myreducing my contact um insertion time, Like
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today it was less than thirty seconds. It was like, look at you.
So it was like, yeah,yeah, closer to twenty, but
m M, maybe thirty. Whatare you doing for thirty minutes? Like
you you put the thing in yourhand, you wet the thing, you
clean the thing, open your eye, do you like? What helps me
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is shooting the eye open and putit directly on. I just really touched.
I can't do that ball you shouldyou shouldn't do that. I can't
look at it. I put iton the white of my eye instead.
And then sort of I found thatif I go my round, yeah,
wiggle my um. At first Iwasn't wiggle on my finger, but so
TikTok said, wiggle your finger andit'll release. Um. Because the main
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problem that I had folding wasn't anissue nothing like that. It just wouldn't
let go my finger. Um No, it wasn't wet enough. Yeah,
so I doubt and then yeah,I douse it and then I wiggle my
finger or I'll just wiggle my eyeballa little bit and it'll just let go
and then I'll just mature. Itdoesn't fall out, the hardest part for
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me is that it takes me aboutten minutes to get my contacts out.
Yeah, to take him out,I'll just kind of fold my um eyelid
and just use my eyelid to tocreate the other that would burn. No,
it doesn't burn. No, Ijust do not fold the eyelid.
I just kind of pushed the eyelidinto my eye and then just just fight,
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fight with our eyeballs. Just giveme some glasses, I'll be okay.
Yeah, there's a thing where ifI do this to my eye.
Okay. When I was trying totake my contact out during the fitting,
I accidentally pinched the white of myeye, and I swear to myself that
I would never do that again.So I haven't even attempted that again.
But that's how I think find out. I lift my eyeball open and then
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I take my fingers and I takeit out like that on my on the
eye. People irish thing it isbarbaran. Just pop it out. It's
better than like fishing for it witha Q tip. Who does it?
I saw a TikTok not TikTok instagrambefore. This is before. Look,
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if they don't want you to putQ tips in your ears, what do
you think they will say about puttingque tips in your eyes? But think?
Oh no, Everyone, Welcome toanother episode of Take a Space Podcast.
I am your hostly and joined bymy costar Jason. That it is
springtime, and with it being spring, I actually did a TikTok back in
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January, around the beginning of theyear, and so many people were doing
vision boards and setting goals and itwas all these trendy things, and so
the TikTok pretty much said that,like it's still dark outset, like it
gets stark at four o'clock. Whyare we trying to set new goals?
Why are we starting new habits?Why are we why are we setting ourselves
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up for failure so early in theyear. Let's let's go ahead, take
a nap, Let's wait till itwarms up. We'll come back to the
drawing board and try again. We'restill hibernating. It's okay, yeah,
like it's it's okay, let's notdo that in January. So I feel
like now that I feel like nowthat we're in April and we're in the
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thick of spring, like now's thetime. Now that the weather is warmer,
it's like the sun is out alot longer. People are planting things,
people are trying, like, nowis the time to try to develop
new habits. You're more likely tostick with a habit when you have that
energy to keep going. So whetherit's you, you know, wanting to
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do a half a mile walk aday, whether it's you wanting to bike,
you know, seven miles a day, or whether it's you know,
juicing, or it's talking to people. People are actually outside now, like
whether you're mask on or mask off, like interacting with people in real life,
you can do that now people areoutside, whether it's taking a trip,
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whether it is trying a new skill, whether it's getting certified in something.
Whatever you're doing except scamming, don'tscam like, don't don't scam,
don't do that. But when you'retrying, when you want to build those
new habits, it's just good todo it in the springtime. It just
makes more sense to do it inthe springtime instead of because I don't know
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how many times I have tried tostart a habit in December. J Yeah,
and I'm just like, yeah,I'm going to do this and actually
stick with it. M I'm tryingto think when I started doing yoga,
and I think that was maybe summer, like last summer, Yeah, because
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it was around the time that um, I had downtime and that became a
daily habit. And then trying tothink of habits that I tried to form
in the cold times, there arenone because I don't normally try to form
habits. So it's hibernating time.You are trying to reserve, preserve,
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reserve, preserve all the energy thatyou have and even hybernally. Huh,
why don't we hibernate? We shouldbe hibernating. Everybody gets tired and depressed
at the time of year anyway,because we're supposed to be sleep capitalism mhmm.
Kids should have a winter breaks,just like they have two months off
for summer. They should have Decemberand January off. I wish we can.
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We can have year round school again, Like not even gonna lie you
have it? No, because weOakland never did year round school. We
were always in oak Contrast. Yeah, you were in Alameda County. No,
then we were in Oakland Unified SchoolDistrict. Okay, we were in
contrast and um yeah we sixth grade, Yeah it was, but by sixth
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grade they had gotten rid of yearround school. Um. But I think
they only did year round school throughfourth I think our fourth Yeah, because
I wasn't a year ahead of youuntil seventh grade. Um, but yeah,
we did year round school. Wehad two months on, one month
off. I liked it because Iliked being in school. And when we
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were out of school, we hadlike enough time to reach our didn't do
summer camps or do like camps andstuff like that, and then we were
back in school, and so itfelt like for me, it felt like
I was in school all the time. But I specifically have a memory.
I have a specific memory and mymother saying that she's glad the year that
they switched from year round to regularschool, which is weird. They called
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it year round versus regular school.When they switched to the regular school year,
my mom was like, oh,my gosh, I'll be still happen
when they go to regular school becauseit feels like they're out of school more
more now than they are than they'rein school. And I was like,
but how we're in school for twomonths for every month that we're out.
But I felt like I was inschool at the time, but I really
like school. I was on theyellow track and each track was off a
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different month of the year, Soyeah, I don't know why they wanted
to switch me to blue track.And then no, I was on blue
track. And then I went toyellow track, and I didn't like my
teachers. That's to switch back topeace. What was your name? Um,
So I had a couple of teachers. Missus Smith was like, I
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didn't really I didn't really get alongwith her that well. And then mister
Hammock, Oh my gosh, I'msurprised that she's named my pain. Oh.
And then I had him again inseventh grade, and then I had
him again in um. I hadhim again a seventh grade, and I
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had him again in my sophomore yearin high school. I was like,
I can't go away from this,man, I can't get away, Like
why do they keep putting my No? But yeah, starting starting new habits.
I feel like in the darker months, it doesn't it doesn't. There's
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no like real what do you callit, um gauge of like success.
No, if someone was going tosay progress, M don't want to say
the tracking of success. The progress. Yes, it's hard to track progress
in the darker months, like ifyou're not doing something that has like an
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angle, like if you are goingback to school, if you are trying
to learn to cook. I don'tknow, what are some new what are
some new skills that people would ornew skills or habits that people would try
to develop, even learning languages generally. Yeah, with that kind of thing.
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Um yeah no, just now thatit's spring time and now is the
time to try those things. Whetheryou want to be a um um um
not a not a a creator,a content creator? My my word,
you so what what? What what'sit called? What? What's it?
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You know? You know what happens. The sad thing is my sleep has
been off for the last two weeksor sorry for the last week, and
a half because the half of thehalf of last week was fine, and
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then um, the a few daysbefore my flight, I don't like if
I if I leave early, Idon't sleep. And so when I took
the flight, um, I didn'thave any sleep. And then I get
back home and I couldn't. Mysleep patterns just never never got into a
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routine. So what I did whenI start trying to go to sleep like
later, like right now, it'slike what eleven, And I'm like trying
to go to sleep later so Ican sleep later or sleep the night,
and it's just it's not I stillwake up about four or five. It's
like, oh, four or fivehours asleep or five or six hours asleep.
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You're fine, like you you gotenough sleep. And then I end
up taking a longer or multiple napsthroughout the day, not just my one
good nap, it's multiple naps throughoutthe day. And then I'm like,
okay, thirty six hit hard,huh? It did? When we tell
you that interestingly interesting thing about sleepthat I learned from the pain management clinic,
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where I'm buying into everything that theysell me, it's a cult.
At this point, apparently he talkedabout how the new psychology the payment the
pain psychologist talked about how the newscience is that, um, the eight
hours of sleeping eight hours a night, that's a mythst basically, and that
it's not about the quantity of sleepthat you get, it's the quality.
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So even if I'm that for me, if I eat, if for a
sleep not eat, if I sleepeight hours, If I eat eight hours,
that's a happy day for me.But if I sleep eight hours,
that's like I wake up feeling worse. If I'm at stop laughing, I'm
not. I didn't say anything whatyou call it. I didn't say say
anything. I said stop laughing.But um, I found that if I
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get like maybe five or six hoursof sleep, I feel good, which
is weird, Like it's really weird. But um, just even letting go
of that mindset of that I needto sleep like eight hours otherwise, UM,
I'm gonna feel like crapper. I'mnot doing it right. So do
you know how much sleep is optimalfor you? Like when you get a
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good night of sleep, how much? How much is it eight hours?
Five or six? Five or six? And that's I think my frustration is
not that my frustration is that I'mnot a warning person, rights, but
I wake up at five or sixwithout an alarm because I'm doing it before
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the sun comes up. And I'mjust gonna let me So I'm like,
okay, let me just go backto sleep, right, that's it.
I'm like, okay, it isfive thirty. Let me okay, you
know what, I'm gonna go ahead, drink some water, take my vitamins.
I'm not gonna turn on the TV. I'm not going to turn on
the computer. I'm not gonna geton my phone. I'll just play some
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music, um, and then I'lllay back down. An hour later,
I am still wide awake. Yes, it's like the mind, the mind,
the mentality for me, I'm nota morning person, but for whatever
reason, my body is insistent thatI am going to become a morning right
right. I don't want to becomethat person that that I don't want to
become that person that in like latethirties, I'm like, oh, like
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at about six thirty in the morningnow and I have a coffee and I'm
doing great. No, let mehold on to this one, this one
vestige of my youth, which isthe night out. There's no reason I
should be able same time. Ihave a tattoo that says, seize the
night. I can't let go ofthis. I just like I never I
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never thought. I never thought aboutarticulating it that way. But that makes
so much sense because I mean,well, the sleep said, and it's
not when when you say new science, it's like new within the last twenty
years. And um, and that'swhen I remember, I don't know if
you remember when I was telling youabout this a while ago. This is
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when I had very high hopes thatI could actually work three jobs still in
my thirties and um, teach atthe same time. I don't know why
I thought I would be able todo that, but um, it was
like, go to school worth threejobs and I'll be fine. But by
fastic sleep, which is um,you your sleep is essentially broken up into
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two sections of the day. Soyou may sleep three or four hours at
night and then three or four hoursin the afternoon with whatever you have going
on. But when you look atother cultures, they just sleep when they
get tired, just like they eat. They don't have like breakfast, lunch,
dinner. They just eat when theyget hungry. And so I feel
like now listening more to my body, paying attention to how my body responds,
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which is why I was more interestedin doing If I was going to
build new skills, new habits,set resolutions, or whatever the case,
new goals like it made sense todo when my body felt great, which
was in the springtimes and so andso I was going to start doing by
fastic sleep. But what I'm noticingis that I do it doesn't matter how
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what time I go to bed.I am waking up, Like I get
tired for real at like eleven,eleven thirty. I can't stay up till
one or two. But then I'mlike, I mean, it's just where
am I where I live in thesuburbs. There's nothing going on here right
right? Like everything everything closed downaround nine, like there's nothing else going
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on. Um, so so I'mlike, let me just go to bed
around eleven. Like I've watched allthe things I want to watch, I've
paid, I've you know, watchingmy social media as I thought that I
wanted to a couple hours a dayor whatever. Yeah, but um but
if I go to sleep around elevenagain, I'm waking up at six.
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If I go to sleep at midnight, I'm waking up at six seven like
the ladies. I'll get up atseven, and most of the time I'm
up around five or six and Ihave nothing to do. But I'm wide
awake and I'm not logging into workthree hours early, because why what's happening?
I'm not setting that expectation. Whois what I am? No,
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So I try to take longer withmy longer with my routine. So what
I have been doing is trying toum utilize that time to build the habits
that I want. So if Ihave goals like right now, I um,
some of you know, or someof the listeners know, I just
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enrolled in school to get my degreein human resources and so um I'll be
finishing that next year, thank god. So um, when I'm up at
five or six, even though Idon't want to do anything, I have
taken steps my to to be moreproductive. So step one get back into
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meditation and devotion. I was toask, are you yeah, how are
you making sure that you center yourselfat the beginning of the day. Oh?
Absolutely like that And that's a goodpoint, like making sure that your
day is set up for success bymaking sure that you you're not going down
to do list of what you haveto do for everyone else? But how
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how are you setting yourself up forsix as by giving yourself what you need
and doing for yourself what you wantto do. So if you're like,
man, I really want to goto Coastal Creamery because I want to go
to Coastal Creamery, like how areyou going to you know, set your
day of to be able to achievethose things? Or I really want to
go to the gym, or Iwant to connect with this person, or
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I want to complete this assignment,or I want to meet this goal.
And so I started doing devotion,which has led to more meditation. But
if I know, if I sayI want to do devotion, meditation,
homework, and then like shower andwork and stuff, I know that automatically
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that's too much stuff on my plan. Yeah, but I know naturally doing
devotion, which includes my prayer time, leads to more meditation time, which
would lead to meet being By thetime I finished meditation, now I know
it's time to start my day,so I can do it. Creates a
ritual, right, get your daystart on a good foot. Basically,
yeah, it's working for progress,But also why why why why are we
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morning people? Now? I don'tknow. Like Jordan, at this point,
he's like waking because the dog iswaking him up at like six third
judical outside. He has acclimated toit. He's gotten to the point where
he's like, yeah, I'll goto the seven o'clock gym or class at
the Yeah, dude, Like Ihear him leaving in the morning, I'm
just like, dude, you betterthan me, because listen, I don't
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start working until ten thirty on Tuesdaysand Thursdays, and some days I get
out of bed too late to makeit to the gym before I start working,
and I work from home. Sothat's saying something like it literally is
how am I feeling that day?That's I think that's part of the reason
why I'm not a morning person.It's like, Okay, how am I
feeling that day? And then Ihave to meet that that Jason meet whichever
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Jason's there to day, like moodwise, pain wise, just where my
nervous system is that day, andthat takes a while. It takes me
for about like an hour or twojust to figure out, like, Okay,
how am I feeling today? AmI gonna this is gonna be a
good day or I'm gonna be stiff. I'm a key am I gonna be
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very grouchy today? What do Iwant to wear today? Like? What
face do I want to wear today? Basically? And I feel like having
tasks to do in the morning whereI have to it seemed to sound harsh,
but where I have to pollute myselfwith other people's wants and needs and
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expectations and stuff. It interrupts myflow and me trying to make sure that
I'm where I need to be,like that I'm centered with myself instead of
trying to attend to someone else ortrying to meet some kind of goal for
class. So for some people itworks, but I'm more like you where
I have to sit in it fora minute, meditate, maybe stretch a
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little bit, and then start theday. Yeah, I can't just jump
up and get it get out ofit unless I'm running late. But even
then that's an interruption to the ritualum. But I don't know. I
don't know if that's sustainable though,Like I know parents do it all the
time. I know where they're wherethey're up, and like, oh man,
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I gotta get up, get thekids on the bus, get the
kids to school, make sure theyhave breakfast, and um, you know,
even even with with people going towork, would they have like,
oh, they have this meeting,they have this, they have that.
Like I'm gonna tell you something.Work does not get me out of it,
That's not who I am. Workedabsolutely does not get me out of
bed. Yes, I like whatI do. Yes, it pays the
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bills. Um, I'm okay withwhere I'm at, But it does not
get me out of bed. Andum, when you have those external pressures
to perform, especially immediately, itmakes it difficult for you to sustain it
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for a long period of time.And that's how a lot of people get
get burnout. They get they're like, oh my gosh, if you can
just oh gosh, I can.I got to take like there's there's no
there's no break, there's no this. And they consistently have other people's kneeds
before theirs because if they wanted tosleep in, they couldn't because maybe they
have to drive their spouts to work. Yeah, and if they don't get
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their spouts to work, then it'sgoing to be a problem and this and
that, and it's just like it'sit's a lot. And so that's why
it's like I can appreciate the spaceand time that I'm in right now where
I can focus on r Leah,what do you want to do? Yeah?
And um, I can but alsobe have that accountability or responsibility with
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myself of not um procrastinating as longbecause it would take because basically when this
first started happening, it would takeme three or four hours to get out
of it because I'm up at I'mup at six, and then why why
do I have to be up atsix? Like I no, and so,
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um, I've just decided to worktill night? Why why? Why?
Now, I think that's part ofthe problem. Like we look at
it from an analytical knowing who bothof us are. We're like, okay,
why am I waking up at six? Instead of just accepting like okay,
yeah, I'm waking up at six? How can I start my day?
Instead of we're looking at it backwardswhere it's like, Okay, why
am I waking up so early?How can I not wake up so early?
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Instead of us meeting where it's atyou know what I mean, because
I'm not waking up early like exhaustedlike, oh my gosh, I woke
up in the middle of of ofa sleep cycle and I can't get back
like I'm rested. I am wideaway feel good for it was a good
night of sleep, but it's notwhen I plan to wake up, like
waking up before the alarm and stuff, right, So I do. I'm
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trying to get out of the habitof napping so well. Before I went
to church, I, um,I will go to sleep at I'll wait.
I woke up at five five am, five thirty five or five thirty
I woke I woke up. No, I woke up at five and a
church. Yeah, I woke upat five am. I was like,
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I am not going to sunrise service. I got some water. We are
in case I wanted to do anything, and I think this is what helps
me in case I wanted to doanything. I drink my water and I
washed my face, and I brushmy teeth because I don't want to go
to back to sleep with funky breath. So I'll go brush my teeth and
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then I'll get back in the bedand I'll and I'll take a nap for
like an hour or two. Um, and then I get up again to
start my day. But I'm tryingto get out of that that after wake
up nap so that my day started. Yeah. One thing that I found
has helped me a lot, justwith UM not really feeling like I have
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too many expectations, like like startingwork early. I don't schedule any I
don't set up to have any meetingsor appointments like right when I start work,
like at nine o'clock or whatever.I make sure that I don't tutor
that early. I don't tutor um, I don't have meetings that early or
anything like that. Like I'd liketo step into work and get a feel
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for what's going on first, giveabout pacing, and then start interfacing with
people, right right, Let merealize that with every process. Yeah,
let me settle in for a minute. Let me see how the waves of
moving, see what's going on.If it's chaotic, let me jump in,
but not have to try to savesomebody else at the same time.
If it's chaos, let me getmy popcorn. What happened? Who did
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you want? Somebody kept me upon? I'm so far more from all
the drama stuff. I love hearingabout all the drama. Art Um offices
isn't it like cool? From that, Like you get to watch through the
placi glass like you don't have Yeah, like you're on the other side of
the mirror. You don't have tobe involved at all. My thing is
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all the drama that's happening like inproximity to my center. Quite frankly,
I don't get paid enough to careto be in the drama like I do
not like it's above my prey gradefar. But I can just watch it
and I could see it. Ithink I've said it a few times to
um, like my one of myco workers, the person who's my direct
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um equal. Basically, I'm like, quite frankly, I don't get paid
enough to worry about this stuff,so let me know what's going on with
it. And she's like, nowthat I think about it, I don't
either, So like, listen,act your wage. Okay, act your
wage I don't have. I don'tcomplain about how much you make at this
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point. I don't make a lot. We know that because I work in
a ucation. You do the math. But I have learned, oh my
gosh, I have learned to sacrificefinancial prosperity for happiness with what I do
I like what I do, butI also recognize that there are certain things
that I don't have to worry aboutbecause of how black luster the pay is.
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And that's okay, Yeah, that'sfine. I'm happy with what I
do the most part, and it'snot anything that you have to like justify
to anybody, you know what Imean, Like we're at the just like
like people are just like, so, what are you gonna do? I
remember when I when I first saidI wanted to be a teacher, I
wanted to go into education, AndI didn't know what he meant until after
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I told my parents what he said. Um, he said, you know
what poverty is. I was likeyeah, he said you better get used
to it. And I was like, who is this somebody at church?
Like it was like one of theolder deacons whatever, and I was just
like okay, but yeah, soit's it's I'm glad that we have like
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moved past that and we're matured pasttrying to get other people to buy in
to our own journey. If itwas really good to just just do it
because we love it, like whetherit leads to something great or something mediocre
or nothing at all, Like Idid it because I wanted to do it
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like I'm good in this moment withit, right, that's what it is.
But about this morning thing, weneed to what do we do?
Because I would like to experience likea nice long night of sleep again,
you know what I mean. Ibut see, just like you said,
sleeping eight hours can make one tired. I can't. I used to be
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able the only time now in recentin recent months that I've been able to
sleep as long as if I don'tfeel good. Before I used to get
in a good I can sleep asmooth ten twelve hours and being up and
running right, But now if Ido try to sleep, I'll be sluggish
and need to sleep more to sleepoff the previous sleep. Yeah right,
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exactly exactly asleep hanging over. SoI feel like this is a moment to
embrace this, yeah, um,knowing that we're still both night owls were
recording, but I ate yeah,but I feel like but I feel like
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with the new sket what is itcalled sarcadian rhythm that that our bodies are
on, um using that to ouradvantage. So I don't feel like I've
wasted the day, but I knowthat when I do have that time before
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the sun comes up, because Iam not getting out of bed to be
active in any part. And maybeit could be that. Um, because
I have been looking for a gym, like a circuit training or a crossbit
gym to go to that has likea good schedule. But if I'm if
I'm going to be consistent in gettingup at five, it makes sense that
I would just go to a crossfit in the morning, but m or
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go do circuit training or something inthe morning. But I'm not there yet.
I'm still with the I'm still withmeditation. I'm slowly building. Do
you meditate in bed or do youget out of bed to meditate? Um?
It depends. Mostly I'm in bedbecause I haven't set up my Remember
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how we were talking about our zenspace in our bedrooms. I haven't set
up my zen space yet, andso I'm working to set that up because
that will be the place that Iwill get out of bed to go to.
But I like that I can.I don't. I'm not laying on
the floor. I can lay inthe bed without the covers on me and
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be in my meditative position and tomy deep breathing. Yeah, and then
my body like I can feel mybody like relax and go through those kind
of meditative states, and that helpsme and I have been able to do
it like before, after about fiveor six minutes, I'll go back to
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sleep, but now I'm like ableto do it for like fifteen twenty minutes
and not be and get a fullmeditative session in and then kind of decide
if I want to go back tosleep or get up and start my day.
How long do you typically wait beforeyou start the process. This is
the vice section because I want someadvice. I'm building this ritual and the
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routine from myself in the morning.How long do you typically are you typically
awake before you begin that process.I have to make the decision as soon
as I wake up to do it, okay, because if you give yourself,
yeah, if you if you giveyourself an out, you will take
the out. Or if I givemyself an out, I will take the
(43:20):
out. Oh, let me justlet me just see what's going on on
YouTube? Who posted a new video? Let me check up on um,
what's happened in the news. Letme see you know who's new on the
Daily Show? Um, let mesee who who posted about this? Yeah,
and so what I do is.I don't give myself the opportunity to
(43:42):
make that decision, like the decisionis already made. Okay, I'm up.
Am I actually up? Or amI kind of groggy? Up?
No, I'm actually up. Okay, I'm actually up. Let me get
my UM. And that's why Iwant to create a zen corner so that
I can start journaling, because that'smostly what I would use that for.
(44:02):
But right now, I set myGoogle to play my music and um,
like the meditative music. I domy devotion, read my scripture, say
my prayers, um, and thengo into meditation. And so I don't
I don't really give myself too muchtime between the time that I know that
(44:25):
I'm alert. I don't know whatyou're looking at. But it's freaking me
out a little bit. I heardokay, I thought I did. Okay,
but yes, so, UM,I don't give myself too much time
between the time that I realized thatI'm alert. Yeah, it's like automatically,
Okay, I realized that I'm awake. Let me go ahead and grab
(44:46):
my devotion and um, you know, so that I'm not like looking at
social media get distracted by you know, other stuff that our phones have on
them. It's like, let's dothis, just do It's just a reflex.
Okay, okay, I'm gonna trythat tomorrow. It helps. It
helps to have a plan because thisis also what um someone else was someone
(45:14):
else was talking about having a plan. So when a situation occurs, you're
not you're not essentially punched in theface and trying to figure out what to
do. Yeah, so I havethe plan in place, you know what
to do, right for example,Um, for example, waking up,
I know when I wake up,I want to do my devotion first.
(45:37):
Yes, there are days where Idon't do my devotion first because I'm feeling
a little crappy and I want,you know, somebody, I want some
music that's gonna make me feel good. Yea, So I may I may
skip, you know, or pushit out for for an hour or so,
or I may tenarao back to sleep. Um. But just like how
if you're allergic to peanuts and youwere to be in an environment, you
(45:58):
have to check before you get thefood does this have peanuts in it?
Or if you're in a situation withsomeone who may cause you harm, like
you know, to avoid that situation, you know to not be around that
person by yourself. There are somany things that you have to make the
decision before it happened. So whenyou're trying to develop new habits, new
(46:19):
skills, when you know that hurdleslike you get bored or you don't you
are stuck, or you feel likeyou've reached a hurdle that you can't get
over. You know, have youhave your accountability partner on the phone,
have your mentor available to you,you know, set some things in place.
Maybe maybe take a step back fromit and come back to it.
(46:40):
Maybe seven am it's not the besttime for you. Maybe seven pm you're
more alert for it, Like there'sother things to do. Just make a
plan so that when you do reacha hurdle in creating new skills and habits,
that that hurdle is not going tokeep you from achieving your goal.
It takes sixty two days for ahuman being to create need a habit,
(47:00):
and if you can make it today sixty three, you have created muscle
memory for that habit to continue.So I know there's a lot of books
that's twenty one day habit, butum, there are a few behavioral science,
human behavioral scientists that I follow,who all agree that sixty two days
is the magic number for a habitto be created. I don't know why
(47:24):
people. People are like, oh, twenty one day habit, but it
doesn't know. Twenty one day habitsthat I've tried has ever stuck. There's
not not a one, and I'vetried quite a few. You know,
one twenty one day habit that mightstick? Drugs, drugs. It's long
(47:47):
enough to become Wanda Deine. Ohgosh, no, no, no,
no, no no. The dayI got the by bless her, bless
I want, I want us to. I want Robert Towns in jail for
(48:08):
her directing that movie. Wait,that was Robert Townson's movie. Why do
they always do Alfree Woodard like that? Why is she always a crackhead?
Why she always taking these rolls Likeit's like the opposite of Megan Good being
typecast as a girlfriend all the time. Like, I don't understand. Why
(48:30):
did they do Alfree Woodard like nowthat she's older, she's playing somebody's mother.
But ma'am made her she, Imean, she made her baby living
playing crackheads. I mean she was, I mean, well around that time
she wasn't crookling too, but sheshe just did just too good of a
(48:50):
job in that movie. And Ijust can't see it less her Alfree Woodard,
I've never been able. Okay,so real quick before we go.
Lorenz Tate, Alfrey Woodard are twopeople where I can't just like imagine people
(49:10):
calling them just by their first names. Al Freme, al Freme. That's
that. It sounds incomplete. Yeah, it just goes together. Her name
is Alfrey Woodard. Like if I'vemet her, I would just I would
call her, you know, miss. This is whatever Alfrey Woodard for.
You know, mister Lorenz Tate.I can't say lorenz Hey, Lorens.
(49:37):
Yeah, it's like there's something mixingmissing from it, right, Like there's
there In the real life example ofthis, there's a drummer he um,
his name is. His name isWilson Brooks. We were introduced as Minister
Wilson Brooks. I could never notcall him minister Wilson Brooks. He's all
in my fit. My siblings dothe same thing. We all call him
(49:59):
minister Wilson Brooks. It's never beenminister Brooks, minister Wilson, or mister
Wilson. Is never is Minister WilsonBrooks. And he's like, why do
your kids call me about my wholename? Like he's like when he came
over into the house, he wasasking my dad. It's just like,
why do they call me by mywhole name? It goes together. That's
(50:20):
what you introduced and says like youdid respectful. Yeah, that's all it
is, like just call my wholegovernment by Minister Wilson Brooks. I hope
you've been inspired and this episode tocreate new habits and not to feel bad
when your body is doing things likeonly sleeping for five or six hours a
(50:44):
night, or if your body issleeping longer and using that time to rest
and rejuvenate and all those great things. That's a good thing, right,
Listen to your body. Yeah,use your circadian rhythm to it to its
advantage. Don't think of it asa bad thing. I mean, we're
night owls living early birds. Sobut is life really it's against our will?
(51:04):
Really, that's that's honestly what itis that hot morning refugees or something
nighttime refugees. We don't have ahome in this early hour, but to
make peace and make do with whatwe have that's honestly where we're at right
now. But yes, um,thank you so much for tuning in to
another episode of Take Space Podcast.Please make sure you follow Jason at JJ
(51:28):
underscored Ney Berry on all social media, the tiktoks, the instagrams, the
facebooks, the twitters, the twitters. Ever long Twitter is gonna be around.
I don't even know how long.On Twitter, there's at least one
where it's not underscore. But Imean, if you find that one,
then I guess you win a lotteryor something. So I don't know which
(51:49):
one it is. Taking all ofthem were because no, I think the
Visco isn't. I was gonna sayVisco, but I thought Visco was underscore,
but maybe not. Maybe it mightbe. I don't know. But
they do this for Noonberry on allthe socials. Just type it into you
find them and then you can followus at take a Space Pod. That's
Take a Space Pod on Facebook,Instagram, and Twitter, or also on
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TikTok and YouTube. Make sure youplease subscribe to the channel. Greatly appreciate
it, you know, share itwith a friend because you need accountability partner,
and this I think is a goodway for both of you to decide
to embark upon a journey together,or at least you can help, you
know, get to your goal alot easier. That's what happens when you
have a friend any parting where JasonUm not connected to anything that you said.
(52:38):
Okay, but I think I mightbegin a crusade to officially change the
name of your podcast a test.I don't know now. I think it
could probably do like a change jobto work, petition, maybe get Biden.
(52:58):
I don't think. I don't thinkI didn't would tusp now this,
I'm like this, I'm like somesome medication. Just imagine saying no,
I'm not I'm not doing that.No, stop it stop it got It's
not like tussy like old that oldthe other checks. I don't know what
(53:23):
that is, Tessy, I suredon't, but I'm a google it.
You can throw up, you canhang up on them now if you want.
Thank you everyone, We'll see younext time. Bye bye
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