Jimmy Kimmel OUT at ABC - NOW the Left Cares About Free Speech

Jimmy Kimmel is on an indefinite suspension by the heads of Disney/ABC, but suddenly free speech is all the rage with the left.

Episode Transcript

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(01:13):
rarely we don't have to keep it under two hours anymore,
but we got to keep it around that just because
I don't want to go over two hours for my
own sanity sake. But I figured when we brought Monty on,
I was gonna end up doing a show because we
weren't going to be able to cover everything I wanted
to cover, and lo and behold, here we are. I
knew that was going to happen. It's it's kind of

(01:33):
where at the point where when we bring guests on
to do a full show with us, we just kind
of assume that it's not only a going to go over,
but b I'm going to end up doing a second show.
I signed myself up for extra work. It's fine, it's okay.
I'm not upset about it. I'm drinking my nine from
my nine Rivers Country Club coffee mug though. So if

(01:56):
you're a King of the Hill fan, you'll get the reference. Well,
we we didn't talk about something pretty major, and I
felt kind of stupid leaving it off on yesterday's show
because the news had already broke when we by the
time we pretaped, but whatever, we didn't have time. I
think it's kind of crazy, how all the major news
stories because we pretape late Wednesday night and we are

(02:18):
it's Saturday. I think it's crazy. How very rarely do
we get major news stories on Thursdays and Fridays, Like
are all the crazy people in the world just kind
of checked out from being crazy? Kind of like you
know how like people's like end of the day Thursday
you start looking ahead of the weekend at your job,
and then Friday you just totally blow it off, Like
do crazy people? And politicians and criminals kind of take

(02:40):
it the same way. In executives that that are going
to make major moves that are going to shake the
landscape up of the country, they just kind of like, Eh,
I'll get back to committing crimes on Monday. I suppose
that's just the vibe I get from it, because very
rarely do I end up having to do extra shows
because something happened on Thursday or Friday. It doesn't happen

(03:01):
very the only times I can really think of, and
when you had Trump got convicted, and then there was
the time they shot Trump. But that was on a weekend,
if I remember right. So I just wound up doing
a late show Saturday night than another one Sunday. I
mean that was everybody was on That was anybody when
that was on it. Anyway, let's talk about Jimmy Kimmel.

(03:23):
Jimmy Kimmel got his show. He didn't get fired. He
wasn't fired. We have to use the correct terminology. He
didn't get fired, he got his show indefinitely suspended from
the air. Uh listen, not officially fired. But if your
boss pulls you into work Monday morning and says, hey,

(03:45):
you're indefinitely suspended without pay, you should probably go look
for another job. That's all I'll tell you. You should probably
start looking for employment elsewhere, because that's not a no.
It's not as a official and permanent is firing. It's
like that boyfriend and girlfriend that they're a toxic mess.
They break up, they never want to see each other again,

(04:07):
but they leave the door open to still be forriten,
no clean break. It's best for everybody involved. Let Jimmy
go find a new station to tank their ratings and
push his propaganda. Don't leave him in limbo like that, ABC.
You move on. You find another host to blame for
your poor ratings when the reality is that the form

(04:29):
of tonight show that you're doing right now is a
dead medium that was killed about fifteen to twenty years ago.
Go ahead and blame somebody else. It doesn't matter who
you put in. Here's the thing, and we'll talk about
what this means for free speech and politics in America
and everything else. If you're ABC, this is your chance

(04:49):
right now. Because there's only one network that's got a
late night show that's working too too, but one of
them's HBO with so I'm not even gonna count that.
There's only one cable network that's got a working late
night show, and it's Fox. Fox is the only one

(05:12):
with Gutfeld, and Gutfeld almost runs more like Bill Maher's show.
The difference between what Gutfeld besides the you know, the format,
but the difference between what Gutfeld is doing and what
Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Fallon and all
these guys are doing is. Gutfeld doesn't lie to you.
Gutfeld doesn't hide behind, Oh, we're a joking comedy show,

(05:36):
we're a political blah blah blah blah blah, and then
spend the next hour shoving propaganda down your throat. Gutfeld goes, look,
we're political, we lean this way, and we're gonna make jokes.
We're gonna have lightheart we're gonna have serious conversation, kind
of like we doing this show. We're gonna have serious
conversations and we're gonna take We're gonna make some lighthearted
jokes about it. But at the end of the day,

(05:57):
this is where we stand on things. People like that.
Gutfeld doesn't bs them. You want me to be honest.
Of those four late night hosts, gutfeldt is the least talented,
and he'll probably be the first one to tell you
that he's the least funny, but he's got the most
successful show because Fox, unlike the other dinosaur networks, decided,
you know what, this is a dying medium. Maybe we

(06:17):
should try and no, I don't know, mix it up.
What do we have to lose. We don't even have
a late night show. Let's do something that none of
these other channels are doing, and that's the problem. So
if you missed it, here's what Kimmel said that got
him in hot water. I figure I should probably probably
do that before anything else.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the
Maga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and
do everything they can to score political points from and
in between the finger pointing, there was grieving.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
On Friday, the White House.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism,
but on a human level, you can see how hard
the President is taking this back.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Adults with on the haft of your friend, Charlie Kirk
asked sir personally, now are you holding up over the
last day and a half, Sir, I think very good.
And by the way, right there you see all the trucks.
They've just started construction of the new ballroom for the
White House, which is something they've been trying to get,
as you know, for about one hundred and fifty years,
and it's going to be a beauty.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief. Construction, the demolition.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Construction.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
This is not how an adult grief's the murder of
somebody called a friend.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
This is how a four year old mourns a goldfish. Okay,
so full disclosure. I actually don't think the joke. I
thought it was funny. I don't think the joke was
that bad. I thought that was a funny joke. We
would play. I didn't even see that clip. We would
have played that on the show because it is. It's
a hilarious predicament. Not Kirk getting killed, obviously, but the

(07:59):
fact that they asked Trump about it and Trump just
immediately pivots to construction. That's Trump. We wouldn't have done
it maliciously. We wouldn't made fun of it. And I
don't think his joke was even that bad. What got
him fired, though, was what he said at the beginning,
I'll play it for you one more time. Let me
know if you can hear what he said. Otherwise I'll
just tell you I don't care.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the
Maga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
And so that's what got him fired. Was that lie.
That's the lie that's been being pushed since we found
out who this kid was, whose name we're not going
to use but I'm sure you all know it by now,
was that he was Maga, and they've just tried to
cling onto any bit of hope that this kid was conservative.

(08:49):
My favorite part of all of this, though, was the
Democrat's primary argument that this kid was a Republican. He
had to be far right, he couldn't be he couldn't
be a leftist because he came from a loving family
where the parents were still together and they were involved
in his life. That was their big message. I'm sorry
that sounds like a self owned to me, but that's

(09:11):
the lie that's been being reciprocated all week, which is
that he's Maga, and just information has slowly trickled out
that this kid was clearly anything but Maga. I mean,
they revealed some of his computer web search history, and
he's into like transfurry porn and all this weird. Now. Look,
of course there are conservatives with some degenerate porn tastes

(09:32):
out there. We frequently have them as guests on our show.
So I have to go through everybody's phone to make sure.
But when you look at I mean, we'll talk a
little bit more about the shooter in a minute. But
long story short, he was not maga. It was well
known by the time he made this joke that he
was not conservative, that this kid was leaning to the
left pretty harshly, and he rolled with that anyway, and

(09:57):
the FCC chair came out and said, Hey, maybe ABC
needs to fire Jimmy Kimmel. It made some comments like that,
which I have my own opinions on, but I've told you,
this is war. The rules have changed. September tenth, the
rules changed. I really don't care about principles as much
as I once did, be honest with you here, so

(10:18):
they the FCC kind of hinted toward it. Right around
the time that happened, one of the networks that ABC
airs on decided, Hey, we're gonna yank. We're not gonna
play Jimmy Kimmel. We don't want this guy on here
pushing lies, which is hilarious. It's like, Oh, all of
a sudden, now you guys are worried about lies. By
the way, go turn ABC News on or any of

(10:41):
these dinosaur channels. You'll see every host on there repeating
this same talking point, bullshit propaganda that the shooter was maga,
but Jimmy Kimmel is the only one who got the acts.
Absolutely not. That's not why they fired him. Believe me,
I'd like to believe that we live in that we
finally made it to a day and age did Donald

(11:02):
Trump finally pushed us over the edge where media outlets
have a host go on the air and recite a
lie that they know is a lie, but they say
it anyway, and the outlet holds them responsible and fires
him for it. I would love to believe that Donald
Trump is ushered that golden era. And yet I am
not that gullible. I don't think that's what happened. I

(11:24):
think what happened to Jimmy Kimmel was Jimmy Kimmel's ratings
were in the toilet. ABC wanted an excuse to dump
Jimmy Kimmel because he was losing them money, and they said,
how about this. The FCC just kind of threatened us.
Now we have cause to fire him. Now we don't

(11:46):
have to wait till the end of his contractor have
to worry about buying him out let's just make a
move now. And by the way, we can scapegoat this guy,
Donald Trump and his administration that we've been trying to
refer to as it as authoritary for the last couple
of months. Anyway, kill two birds with one stone. That's
what I think happened here. ABC saw they had an

(12:07):
out and they rolled with it. Nothing else makes sense
to me. I mean genuinely, truly, if you can think
of another theory, let me know. We're working hard to
get Monty Scott into Jimmy Kimmel's job though we want it.
We're working pretty hard to get Monty Scott hired. Do
you want me to be honest? What I think ABC
should do? And I know no one's gonna listen to me.

(12:28):
ABC should just scrap it, scrap it, do what Fox
is doing, but try to make it. ABC actually has
a chance to do what people on the left and
in the center, that kind of the left, kind of left,
like the Monty Scott types. They've got a chance to
do what a lot of people have been saying, which

(12:51):
is to create their own type of gut filthy Here's
the thing. Don't bring these woke influencers and these hack
comedians on. Bring on people that, like they have on Gutfeld,
that are on the left. You'll get a token conservative guy.
You can all beat up on him and have like
actual real talk conversations about these things. You can bring

(13:12):
celebrities on and interview them and do the live studio
audience and have a fun time. That's all fine. Absolutely
incorporate comedy into it. But people, what the Late Night
Show became was just an extension of your afternoon news.
And that works for some people. That works for the
weirdos at the No Kings rally, but for the most part,

(13:35):
people didn't want that. They didn't want CNN with some
half assed jokes, because that's what it became. And that's
the other thing is everyone's talking about, Oh, they're coming
for the comedians now, which is hilarious coming from you
guys talking about coming for comedians. Is the name Dave
Chappelle ring any bells for God's sakes. We'll get to

(13:56):
that in a minute. But everyone's talking about, Oh, they're coming,
they're in for the comedians now. No, No, they're not
coming for the comedians. They're not. Jimmy Kimmel did not
get fired for his joke they misconstrue everything, not because
they're stupid. Their base is stupid that repeats it. But
the people that invent these talking points about how they're

(14:17):
coming for the comedians, they're not stupid people. They know
what they're doing. They understand that Jimmy Kimmel did not
get fired for the joke he told. Jim If Jimmy
Kimmel just would have told that joke and the first
half of that sentence didn't happen, you would add some
people freak out, but nothing would have happened. Jimmy Kimmel

(14:40):
got fired because he went on the air and lied.
That's why he got fired. Sorry, Jimmy, if you want
to go on there and act, you don't get to
go on there and act like a serious journalist and
then pull the oh, I'm just a comedian. I'm just joking.
It's one of the other bro. If you want a
state objective facts, you don't get to pull back and go, oh,
it was just the joke. Go you lied. That's why

(15:02):
he got fired. That's why he got fired. What I
love about this is it shows just how far off
we are as a society, how little we actually trust
the media. Because the argument being being told right now
is like I just said, every other host is going
on there and saying it, well, everybody else lies, why
can't Kimmel lie. That's the whole argument, is that he

(15:23):
should be able to be allowed to lie because everybody
else gets to lie. Not Hey, maybe everybody should just
stop lying. I think that would be the rational. But no,
that that we're so far gone that we can't even
have We're willing to not just lie, but abandoned logic
if it means we can defend our own side. I
got into it someone was attacking someone I know on

(15:44):
Facebook about you know how horrible if a precedent it
is that the FCC is targeting me, is targeting Jimmy
Kimmel and blah blah blah blah blah, and got him
fired from ABC. And I just replied with a screenshot
where Zuckerbern a couple of months ago was talking about
how the Biden administration would just reach out to Facebook

(16:06):
and go, hey, yank this post down. It's contrary to
the narrative. Yank it down. We don't want that out there.
And they did it at will thousands, if not tens
of thousands of posts yanked down on demand at the
request of the Biden administration, no questions asked. Zuckerberg flat
out said that, and no one from the Biden administration

(16:28):
came out and refuted it, So we know that happened.
You know what. This person replied to me, Well, that's different.
Facebook's a private company, ABC is it. They're gone, guys,
They're mentally gone. There's nothing left. Any sense of reason

(16:49):
or rationale or anything like that has been flushed down
the fucking toilet by these people. There's no reasoning with
them anymore. They shot the last guy who was willing
to talk to him. There's no sense in having conversations
if they're going to just say things as an objective,

(17:12):
facts that they know for a fact or lies. There's
no sense in talking to these people. They've abandoned the
use of reason. I'll pull a Mark Twain quote up here.
I've just been reminding people save this to your phones.
If you're on Rumble or YouTube and you're watching, screenshot
this when I pull it up and save it to
your phones. The next time you want to argue with

(17:33):
one of these idiots that's still using the right wing
narrative about the shooter or is still talking about Mark Zuckerberg,
or excuse me, not Mark Zuckerberg, Jimmy Kimmel, and you know,
just just all this scarbage. Use this quote. It's from
Mark Twain. The truth has no defense against a fool
who is determined to believe a lie. Mark Twain. The
truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe

(17:57):
a lie. If these people want to believe a lie,
there is nothing you can say to them, no evidence
you can present to them, nothing two plus two equals five.
Nothing you can say to them will get them to
change their mind. There is no sense in reasoning with
these people. We can't have conversations with people. Remember I

(18:18):
was talking with when we had Adam Gotschilong here. I said,
a lot more people need to start developing the same
system that roller coasters have for who they argue with,
who they engage with, must be this tall to ride.
But you apply that to intelligence people that have an
IQ below a certain level, it's not worth your time
to discuss it with them, because it's not like you're

(18:40):
an NFL team playing a pee wee football team. You're
an NFL team playing a team that thinks it's a
basketball game. So you may be up seventy to nothing,
but they're sitting over there shooting the ball at the
goalpost and a shopping cart that they've tied up to it,
thinking they just hit another three pointer, and they're dominating you.
There's no sense in reasoning with people who are beyond

(19:01):
the scope of reason. They've lost their collective minds. There's
no reason to talk to them anymore. Now. Obviously, don't
get violent. I'm not encouraging that. But we have to
do our own thing. We have to compete for the
people in the middle. We have to talk directly to
the people in the middle. We talk directly to the
people in the middle, and we let them see how
unhinge these people are firsthand. We're done trying to reason

(19:27):
with the left. If you're a rational leftist, meet us
in the middle. We'll figure it out. You shouldn't want
anything to do with these nutcases. You shouldn't want anything
to do with these people who are willing to flush
their brains down the toilet if it means they can
win an argument. They're not even winning the argument, but
if it means they can win an argument, they are
willing to abandon all logic and reason. Also, people are

(19:51):
acting like the FCC went into Jimmy Kimmel's studio and
see all of his documents, took the computers and all
the equipment away, and drug him out in handcuffs, you know,
kind of like the government did Alex Jones. But they're
acting like that's what happened. Like the chief of the

(20:13):
FCC and Donald Trump got together and just said, Jimmy,
as now, what happened. The chief of the FCC made
a comment that I'm not comfortable with, but fuck it,
the gloves are off. ABC fired him. ABC at any
time could have just said no, the FCC did not
fire Jimmy Kimmel. ABC did, Disney did at any time

(20:39):
during this process. They could have gave the FCC the finger.
You know, I know they could have done that because
the Biden administration tried the exact same thing with Spotify
and Rogan. They tried to say, hey, Spotify, Joe Rogan's
pushing misinformation about COVID and vaccines on your platform. You
need to take him where. They flat out said that.

(20:59):
They called him out. Spotify said go pound sand. They
could have done that at any point in time. You
know what happened to Spotify for it nothing. They didn't
do it because this isn't about free speech. It's not
about anything. It's about they wanted to convenient out for
Jimmy Kimmel. That's all this was about. It wasn't about

(21:19):
a lie. Since when did ABC care about the truth?
They said, sure, you're gone, Jimmy. It's a dying medium.
Nobody finds that crap funny anymore. That style of humor
is over. People like a little bit more rough, like it,
a little bit more rough around the edges. I just

(21:42):
love other people that have been crusading against free speech
for the last decade are all of a sudden, these
big defenders of it. Get out of here, Get out
of here. I've got liberals lecturing me about free speech.
It's like being lectured by an OnlyFans whrror because I
had sex before I got married, Like, yeah, maybe I

(22:02):
didn't do the best thing I could have done, But
who the fuck are you to call me out on that?
You guys weren't worried about free speech when you were
calling threatened to shoot up Ari Shaffer's venues because he
made a Kobe Bryant joke. You guys, weren't worried about
free speech when you were harassing Dave Chappelle's venues, when

(22:23):
you were trying to bully Netflix to take Chappelle off.
That's my thing. If you were quiet about the previous
administration colluding with Facebook to censor conservative voices, if you
were quiet about the previous administration trying to railroad Joe
Rogan off the podcast apps, I really don't care to

(22:47):
hear your takes on freedom of speech because it's abundantly
clear you only care about freedom of speech when it's
you guys that are getting fired. My props to the
folks are the right because you're not trying to act
principled here. You're not putting your heads in the same
and acting like things in the past didn't happen. No,
you're flat out saying, yeah, we did believe in freedom
of speech. We were the Party of free speech. We

(23:07):
would like to get back to a point where we
would support free speech for both sides. But you guys
shoot people who think differently than you. Those rules changed
on September tenth. September tenth, we threw those out the window.
We decided we can't win a game. We can't win
a war political war against a side that's not going
to play by the same rules as us. They're going

(23:29):
to kill us if we speak our minds, so we
have to fight back. We're not willing to kill you
over it, because we actually value human life. We don't
blend babies, you know, things like that. But we are
going to fight back using some of the same rules
that you established that we can go after people for
their jobs, things we wouldn't have done a couple of
weeks ago. We can go after people's jobs. Now, we

(23:52):
can silence people and put pressure. The Conservatives are flat
out saying, yes, we understand, we're being hypocritical here. We
don't care because the rules of change now you've made
it abundantly clear you don't want to play by them.
I remember when I was in h in high school.
We had a game. We were playing a football game
and the other team was just dirty as hell, and

(24:12):
the refs would not call anything chop blocks, holding, blocking
the back face. I mean, we had guys getting their
helmets ripped off. We had a guy get kicked in
the throat on the ground right in front of a
referee and they didn't call it, and We were down
by like a score or two at half time, and
I remember our coaches came out at halftime, and you know,
everyone's bitching about the ref and the coach had torn
into the ref a couple of times. So it's not

(24:34):
like he could pretend that nothing was going on and
just tell us to get out there and try your best. No,
he came up to us and he said, guys, do
whatever it takes. If they're holding you, if they're blocking
you in the back, if they're taking low blows on you,
start doing it to them until they start calling it.
Then we'll deal with the refs. Don't like try to
hurt anybody, but go out there. The rules have changed.

(24:54):
Holding isn't a penalty until they start calling it. Face masks,
blocking the back not a penalty until they start calling it.
Do what you gotta do to win. We went out there,
we did it, and we won. The refs weren't gonna
call it. We were gonna play the game the way
the refs were calling it. There's no sense in having
an uneven playing field. There's no honor in going out

(25:15):
and playing by the rules if you know you're going
to get your ass beat there's none If a guy
breaks into my house and he's unarmed or he's got
a knife, there's no honor in me going out there
and trying to fight that guy with a knife on
my own. No, I'm gonna shoot him. I'm gonna shoot him.
I don't care what the rules are. He broke into
my house. I'm gonna defend my family. I don't care

(25:35):
if it makes it unfair that I have a gun.
This drug addict broke into my house, I'm gonna blow
his head off. I'm going to fight back. It doesn't
matter what the rules are. The rules went out the
window when he decided to kick my door down. That's
all there is to it. And we'll never, never, ever,
ever could encourage political violence. But we will encourage going

(25:56):
to a political war through some back, not violence, not
with weapons. But if y'all got to shut some liberals
up through their employer or through social media or these
TV channels, and so be it. Dude, I don't feel
bad for them, and you shouldn't feel bad for them either.
Don't get me wrong, It's tough for me to come
to terms with the fact that the rules have changed.

(26:19):
If you're sitting there going. You know, I like, I
want to defend free speech. But at the same time,
these people made it abundantly clear over the last week
that they want me to die. That's a normal human
reaction to just not care all that much. I tried
to care about Jimmy Kimmel. I can't. I can't. It's

(26:41):
hard to feel sad about the people who wanted to
want to kill you losing their civil liberties. I told
y'all yesterday, it all the cats out of the bag.
They can't take what they said back, which is that
they want us dead for the way we belie leave
for our political beliefs. Look imagine if you had, like

(27:03):
your daughter, broke up with a boyfriend who was abusive,
and this guy starts threatening her, threatening the family, He's
gonna kill you, who's gonna do this and that? And
you finally say enough is enough, so you call the
police for terroristic threats. They go down, they arrest that guy,
and they beat the cops beat the shit out of them.
They didn't need to, but they slam him on the ground,
kick him in the head, tase him. All that stuff
you gotta split lip didn't need to happen, but they

(27:24):
beat the fucking tar out of this kid. How upset
are you really gonna be about that? How mad are
you actually gonna be about How concerned are you really
gonna be about that? Punk ass kids? Civil liberties at
the absolute best, you just go eh. At the worst,

(27:47):
you'll go good good. That doesn't mean you support the
concept of police brutality the same way that you not
giving a damn or maybe even giving a silent little
hell yeah when you see another liberal lose their job
or get their show taken off. The doesn't mean you
don't believe in free speech. It just means you're tired
of these people for the last decade of pressing you.

(28:08):
You're tired of these people using these exact same tactics
and terrorizing you for the last decade, and it's about
fucking time somebody gives it back to them. You can
only get punched in the mouth for so long until
you either hemorrhage out on the ground and die, or
decide to defend yourself and punch them back. That's what's
happening here. They don't fall for this bullshit. Because I'm

(28:32):
seeing a lot of liberals. We all need to unite
around Jimmy Kimmel, don't I don't care what your personal
opinion on it is. Do not side with these people.
They're using you, they're lying to you. They're taking an
issue that they know you believe in and you care about,
and they're trying to manipulate you, and they're playing a
lot of conservatives like a fiddle. You don't have to

(28:52):
approve of what Kimmel said. Shut up and do not
join them. They will use you and then throw you
out like yesterday's garbage when they get what they want
out of you. They can get enough people on the
right in the center to start making a bunch of noise.
ABC might go, oh wow, maybe we should bring Kimmel back. No,
none of that, none of that. Stand in solidarity silently

(29:15):
and shut the fuck up. Let them have their little
left wing circle jerk right now. Those people are so unhinged.
They're the bull you cried fascist. They're so unhinged. Nobody
takes them seriously. Let these blue haired freaks sit there
and throw their temper tantrum. Nobody's gonna care because everyone's learned. Oh,
they're just crazy. They don't speak for the average person.

(29:37):
The second the average guy starts raising concerns about this
is the second they might get what they want. And
believe me, they do not believe in free speech. They
are not on our side on this issue. They only
want their propaganda machine to have free speech. And they're
willing to use you. They're willing to play on your
emotions for something that you believe in and you hold dearly,
and try to use that belief you have, Try to

(29:59):
use that principle that you have as a vehicle to
get them to where they want to be. Do not
fall for it. Do not fall for it. It's the
same way when these idiots they don't believe that they're atheists,
right or whatever, and they come out and they'll they'll
talk about, well, what did the Bible say about illegal immigration?
They hate your religion, They despise you, They hate everything

(30:20):
about it. Everything about your religion they find to be disgusting,
they find it to be backward, outdated and repulsive. Flipping
that around and using that same tactic on them, would
never in a million years move the needle on any
issue because they don't believe in it. They don't believe
in God. But they'll throw your religion right back at you.

(30:43):
To get you to side with them on immigration. It's
the same thing with free speech, the same thing with
free speech. If for whatever reason, let's say four years
from now, let's say they get what they want here,
and then four years from now, President Gavin Newsom comes
in and get you know, gets the uh the pressure
Spotify into Canon Joe Rogan's show, and you go, hey, buddy,

(31:04):
defenders of free speech on the left, come on over here.
You got to help us out. Oh you thought we
were gonna do that for you. No, no, no, you don't understand.
We're parasites, and with parasites, that's a one way street,
that's a one way beneficial relationship. There. We of course
not No, we don't believe in free speech, or they'd
come up with some bullshit. Excuse me, well, he was
a national health threat with the vaccines or the blah

(31:26):
blah blah blah blah. Don't trust them. Don't trust them.
They will never in a million years defend you the
way they are demanding that you defend them. Never in
a million years will they do that. Do not fall
forward this shit. You don't have to partake in the canceling.
If you're not comfortable with that, you don't have to
be the one out calling people's jobs. You don't have

(31:46):
to be the one out demanded that these shows get
taken off the air. You just don't need to defend them.
Don't defend the people who are the so called quote
unquote victims of this. That's all you've got to do. Yeah,
that's literally it. Do not side with these people. Do
I feel bad for Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
No.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
I tried, I really did. I tried, and then I
remember these people would tell me to face the wall
and shoot me in the back of the head for
my beliefs, if they had the chance to, if they
had the power to. Totally natural for you to feel
a little perturbed by this, I get it. Do you remember, though,

(32:30):
under Biden, they were trying to make it so that
this was something the administration and some establishment folks had recommended.
Under Biden, you can go back and look this up.
They were trying to make it so the FCC could
have jurisdiction over podcasts and other internet broadcasts. Nothing happened
to it serious extent and things like that Live three

(32:50):
sixty five on Chris Baker Radio where you can find us.
Nothing happened with that though, and uh, probably a good thing.
Probably a good thing, because I've always said, you got
to be careful where these precedents get set. If the
Left gets power back, which we need to make sure
they don't, but if the Left gets power back, that's
what they're gonna be doing. They're gonna watch, watch, just

(33:13):
just watch the next Democrat president. You heard it here
first September twenty first, twenty twenty five here on that
space with Caleb Salvator. The next Democrat president will try
to expand the powers of the FCC into the podcast
and internet spaces, and he will try to censor anybody
and everybody that dissents the Democrats. If the guys we
have to remember when I said the cat was out

(33:36):
of the bag with the stuff they were saying about
Charlie Kirkin Conservatives, the cat's out of the bag. Now
there's no going back. We've crossed the line. We have
to see this thing through to its completion. We've got
to root the demons out. We've got to find a
way to make it so that the Left cannot regain

(33:58):
power in this country again, because they are going to
do what we're doing to them right now tenfold, and
they're going to stack the Supreme Court when they do it.
You think that that You conservatives that think Trump's acting
a little too authoritarian right now haven't seen nothing, Because
if Gavin Newsom takes the White House in four years,

(34:20):
what Trump's doing right now is going to seem like
a fucking birthday party. Bro to the right, or excise me,
to the left, for what Gavin Newsom's going to turn
around and do to us. We have to politically bury
the left, not with violence. You like to have to
do that disclaimer every fifteen minutes now because the game

(34:41):
has changed. The game has changed. Six months ago, I
could have said we have to politically bury the left,
and just the use of the word politically would give
me enough plausible deniability right there politically, But the way
the game has changed, I have to say not with violence,
like every fifteen to twenty minutes, because the other side
is so prone to violence that that's the worst part

(35:06):
about this. You guys know, I'm not telling you that
I'm not calling you to violence. I would never do that.
I would never call someone to violence if I wasn't
willing to do it myself. Ever, that's when you see
these pussies like Destiny and Hassan and all these idiots
out there talking about we need the streets need to

(35:28):
be running red with conservative blood. You can look that up.
Hassan said something along those lines or that, you know,
they need to be afraid they're gonna get murdered when
they go out to these events, which, by the way,
is fascist. That's the definition of fascist people being afraid
that they're gonna be killed or in prison for their beliefs,
Not that they're gonna lose their job, but that they're
gonna be killed or in prison for their beliefs. I
I'm glad the mask is off. Now. That's the definition

(35:51):
of fascism when they're out saying stuff like this. You
guys on the left that I know none of you
are listening to this show except my fan club over
there in Lincoln. But do you really think that Destiny,
Destiny of all people, Steven Bonnell from Omaha, Nebraska, that pussy,
that blue haired little cuck, is gonna pick up a

(36:11):
rifle and do a goddamn thing. No, He's gonna sit
in his bedroom, play his video games, do his little
Twitch stream and be Edgy on Piers Morgan and he's
gonna watch you get the absolute shit beat out of
you on the news, in videos on social media. These

(36:34):
grifters that are signing you up for war, they're not
gonna get their fingers dirty. They're no different than the
politicians in Washington, d C. On the left and the
right that are all too happy to send somebody else's
kid off to fight in Ukraine, to the Middle East
or whatever. They're trying to do it here with you.
They're trying to use you and Soros and all these guys.

(36:55):
They're trying to use you as political pawns to go
out and terrorize conservatives and leaving themselves with just enough
wiggle room and plausible deniability to get away with saying
it was incitement. They're trying to get you to go
out and kill their political rivals. They're trying to get
you to go out and clash with conservatives and police
in the streets and cause violence and chaos and loot

(37:17):
buildings and all that, because they don't have the balls
to do any of it. Because these people make millions
of dollars a year, and never in a million years
would they actually get up and do any of the
shit that they're trying to push you to do. So
let's talk about the shooter for a little bit. We're
not going to use his name, but here are the

(37:39):
text messages. We found out the guy has a trans
partner that was a man who was turning into a woman.
So it's between him and his boyfriend. Do I got him?
I saved the pity that's not it. That's not it.
That's there. It is third times the charm. Here's the
text message conversation between the shooter and his boy friend

(38:01):
right here, So the shooter. This is after the shooter
told the quote unquote room made boyfriend to look for
a note under his keyboard. The boyfriend says, what you're joking, right?
The note was confessing supposedly that he killed Charlie Kirk.

(38:23):
The shooter says, I am still okay. I love, but
I'm stuck in orum for a little while. Longer yet,
shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I
gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had
hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age.
I am sorry to involve you, boyfriend. You weren't the
one who did it right, shooter, I am I'm sorry, boyfriend.

(38:45):
I thought they caught the person Shooter. No, they grabbed
some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing.
I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop
point shortly after, but most of that side and most
of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet
enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering why boyfriend, shooter?

(39:05):
Why did I do it? Boyfriend? Yeah, shooter, I had
enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.
If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I
will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve
it again. Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen
anything about them finding it. Boyfriend. How long have you
been planning this, shooter? A bit over a week. I

(39:27):
believe I can get close to it, but there's no
squad car parked right by. Then he goes on later
delete this exchange. My dad wants the photos of the rifle.
Don't say anything without an attorney, blah blah blah blah blah.
So everyone pointed out that this does not read like
a conversation between two human beings and they're right, They're

(39:50):
one hundred percent correct. This looks scripted, But I don't
think it looks scripted for the same reason that did
some of you do. There's people saying the FBI scripted this,
and it depends how far to what side they are
as to why they believe it was scripted. Some people
believe it was scripted by the FBI to set the
shooter ups. Some left wing patsy people on the far

(40:12):
right believe it was scripted by the FBI to exonerate Israel.
I don't think it was any of that. I really don't.
I've seen no evidence, no real evidence to suggest this
was Israel. I see people pointing to weird things, Well,
there was a plane in the air well, there was
a camera behind him that was actually a gun. Well,

(40:36):
I think what it boils down to, And I just
had this conversation with someone today, earlier today, all the
consults now, Look, I do believe there's there are some things,
some major events, that there's some some weird shit going
on there. I don't think they're all that way, though.
I think it brings people comfort to believe that there

(41:01):
is some big, bad, evil, cartoon type force pulling the
strings behind every bad event. And the reason I think
it brings people comfort to believe that is because I think,
in a weird way, that's more comfortable than the alternative,
which is the most likely reality, which is that it's chaos.

(41:26):
There are just sometimes crazy people who do crazy things
for crazy reasons and sometimes no reason at all. It's
a lot easier. I think it's an easier pill to
swallow for people to believe that Israel did this than
it is for people to face the reality, which is

(41:50):
that there's a significant percentage of this country that is unhinged, delusional,
and violent. So I don't buy the conspiracy from either side.
I don't think they were trying to to deframe. I
don't think the Trump administration killed Charlie Kirk to frame

(42:11):
the left wing and give him an excuse to do
all this. I also don't think that Israel did it
because Kirk had this phone call with Netton Yahoo that
no one can provide any evidence of, where they offered
him one hundred and fifty million to tow the line
and he turned it down and was gonna go. I
don't have any proof of that. Charlie Kirk, one of
my biggest criticisms of Charlie Kirk is that he was
way too pro Israel. I don't see Israel whacking him.

(42:34):
I don't you all know how I feel about the
Israel Palestine thing. Not a big fan of giving our
money away to countries that wouldn't piss on us if
we were on fire. I just don't see Israel being
responsible for this. So no, I think this is legit.
The reason I think this is scripted, though, is not
to it was not scripted by the FBI. I think
this was scripted by the shooter and his boyfriend to

(42:57):
exonerate the boyfriend, to give him enough plausible deniability that
he didn't know what was going on. Because let me
tell you, if I texted Mia and said I just
killed somebody, she wouldn't respond with why no, I'd get
a phone call. That would be a phone call. The
text conversation would be over because she would lose her

(43:20):
fucking mind on me. So to me, this read because
they you say, throw a bunch of just random, unimportant details,
like the two thousand dollars scope with the rife, I
didn't read the whole conversation. They throw a bunch of
unimportant details in there, and it looks like a script
between two middle schools. I really think that this was
planned out, and I don't have proof of this. This

(43:42):
is my opinion, but I really, to me, this looks
like it was planned out. The boyfriend played a role.
My guess is there were several other people that played
a role. Will get into that in a second here,
and they're trying to cover this guy's ass is to
just say, oh, I don't know, I don't know, Like
I used to know a drug dealer that would come
to your house drop the drugs off a couple days later,

(44:04):
and right as he leaves or when he gets home
from where he was from his drop off, he'll text you,
hey man, thanks for watching my cat, just to give
him some like buzz what an ability why he was
at your house in case anybody was following him. That's
what this looks like to me, when you see someone

(44:27):
just vomiting unnecessary details and having this robotic, seemingly rehearsed
conversation where it almost reads like they're trying a little
too hard to make the boyfriend seem like you didn't
know what was going on. They wanted to have something
in writing that his lawyer could use. That's what this

(44:48):
looks like to me. You want my opinion, I think
this is a left wing terror of sleep or cell
That's what I see here. I think because you had
several Twitter accounts within an hour of Utah Valley State

(45:09):
where the shooting happened, all belonging to transgender users. You
had another transgender SoundCloud rapper who made a song called
Charlie Kirk Dead at thirty one September tenth, several months
before the shooting happened, and put it up on them

(45:30):
his or whatever's SoundCloud account. You had all these Twitter
accounts saying something big is gonna happen to Charlie Kirk
on September tenth. You had an old man who, after
the shooting happened, instinctively throws up his arms and says,
shoot me, shoot me, I'm the one who did it.
Who does that? You've got another guy who was at

(45:52):
the shooting that dropped a BB gun in the midst
of all the chaos, a rifle. It looked like a rifle.
You could tell if it was a BB gun at
first sight. In a month and a bunch of chaos,
you think that was your rifle. It was almost like
you had multiple, multiple people here working together to distract

(46:15):
law enforcement and help the shooter with a getaway. And
that's what's scary here is this sounds like an organized hit.
To me, this is our generation's JFK. Not that Kirk's
as big of a figure as JFK was, but simply
because the narrative we're seeing that this was a lone
wolf gunman doesn't make any sense. I think we're going

(46:40):
to find out, and this is just me talking over
the next couple of months that the boyfriend was involved
to some degree and there were multiple other parties. Now,
the other reason I think that there might be multiple
other parties involved is because the shooter himself is not
cooperating with law enforcement. He's not saying anything. Let's think

(47:04):
about the profile of a deranged, lone wolf lunatic that
thinks he's out there shooting somebody to get this message across, right.
That guy wants to be heard if that guy gets caught.
That guy wants everyone to know why he did it
because he's a delusional nutcase and he thinks the whole
world is just gonna fall in love with his ideas

(47:26):
and Honestly, twenty percent of the population probably will. That
guy's gonna talk. He's gonna tell you why he did it,
who inspired him, all that stuff. Do you know who
doesn't talk? People with accomplices? The mob pleads the fifth
to quote Donald Trump. Terrorist groups don't talk. Street gangs

(47:49):
don't snitch on each other. If you've got a guy
who truly acted alone because he just hated Charlie Kirk,
he's gonna want the whole world to know why he
did what he did, whether it's because he's crazy, or
because he wants to push his political beliefs, or all
of the above. Somebody who has accomplices doesn't talk because
they're loyal to those people and they don't want that,

(48:11):
and they don't want those people to go down. They
want this specifically if you're involved in some type of
extremist group, because you want that group to go out
and deliver the next couple of blows. That's where this
gets scary. If there's one in lily white, dark red Utah,
it's willing to start capping the most prominent conservatives in
the country. How fucking many of these groups are there?

(48:34):
Are they coordinated in a large network is somebody like, oh,
I don't know a Soros funding them? Who's doing this?
Are they all just little sleeper cells that popped up
on their own? Are they in communication? How deep does
this rabbit hole go? Who's involved? Because Discord, which is
where it's a degenerate app, it makes Reddit look like

(48:57):
a fucking walk to the park, do not get on Discord.
Discord initially said, hey, we couldn't find anything related to
this guy's political beliefs on here, and then the FBI
goes and searches his Discord account and they get into
his phone and they found screenshots proving to the contrary.
So what incentive does Discord have to lie here? Does
Discord need to be investigated? Did they need a subpoena?

(49:19):
Do we need a warrant for them? How deep does
this rabbit hole go? Because it seems to me it's
easier to blame the Jews because they're thousands of miles away.
But like I've said, guys, this thing is screaming to
me from the beginning that the call is coming from

(49:39):
inside the house. The elites are you know, the Israel
and the oligarchs aren't pulling the strings here, but there
is some type of network going on where these left
wing nutcases are conspiring, and I fear that this will
not be the last. I fear that the midterms are

(49:59):
coming up next year and the goal is going to
be to create chaos. Over the summer, we're gonna get
another We're coming into the winter months here, They're not
gonna be able to go outside and do all that much.
Come into the summer. I fear that it's gonna be
a sketchy summer. To quote Taylor Swift, it'll be a
cool summer. Maybe we'll have to make a parody of that.

(50:26):
But this scares the shit out of me because this
is not He may have been a lone gunman, but
he did not act. Everything I'm seeing here points to
him not acting alone. The last thing I want to
get into is social media. Guys, we gotta talk about

(50:53):
social media and what it's doing to your brains, all
of our brains, not just you, me too. It's not
specific to any political ideology, nothing like that. Now. I'm
a free market guy. I'm a capitalist. I think companies
should be able to operate for the most part with

(51:14):
not no but minimal government intervention. But it gets to
a point when those companies begin endangering the lives of
the public where I do believe that the government needs
to step in. They have a not just an authority,
but a responsibility to step in and say, all right,
you got to stop this. You know, if a company's
dumping toxic chemicals in a lake, if a car manufacturer

(51:40):
is knowingly cheaping out on the brakes and people are
getting killed driving down the highway, things like that. You know,
if they're putting poison in our food and water and
they're giving it all these crazy names that we don't
have time to research and they just slowly kill us
and give us cancer. Yes, I believe the government does
need to step into the and do something about that.

(52:04):
We're getting to a point where social media is falling
into the category of that food production company that's pouring
toxic sludge into a way, into a lake, into a river, whatever.

(52:27):
Look at your Facebook, bro go log on Facebook and
Twitter and Instagram. Their algorithms are the same. Their algorithms
push things to the top that they know you are

(52:50):
going to engage with, and the more engagement you have
on a post, the easier it is for them to
advertise you are the product right. So if they show
you a video of puppies, you're gonna like it. You
might comment ah and move on. If they show you

(53:13):
a post of a political take that you agree with,
you're gonna like it. You might drop I agree in
the comments and move on. But if they show you
a Facebook post, and if you go look at your
Facebook profile, it'll tell you where it thinks you land politically,

(53:34):
you can go look. It's flat out says this is
where we think, you know, center right, far right, middle,
far left, center left. They may have taken that off public,
but I know years ago they used to. So if
they were tracking you back then, they're tracking you now,
and it's probably more high tech. They probably know more
about your beliefs. But it builds a profile of how
you feel politically, so it knows what's gonna piss you
off and what you're going to agree with. If they

(53:55):
show you a political post that you disagree with, you're
gonna comment on it fifteen times because you're going to
get into an argument. The more comments gonna bring more
eyes to the post, it's gonna bring more ad revenue.
They put an ad right next to that post. It's
really elementary we have got. I mean, look, look, we're

(54:17):
gonna make the argument that all these food companies should
get in trouble because they're making a profit off of
poisoning people's bodies. We've got social media companies who are
making a profit off of poisoning people's brains. How's that

(54:39):
any different? And y'all can look this up. There's a
loss called section two thirty. You can't sue social media companies.
Social media companies and vaccine manufacturers are the only two
companies that are exempt from lawsuits in this country. Now
think about that for a second. If your kid gets
groomed on Facebook and Facebook doesn't do anything about it,

(55:01):
there's nothing you can do to sue Facebook. Facebook's got
all these monitoring AI tools and everything. They could absolutely
stop it, but they don't. In fact, one could argue
Facebook in instances where we're talking about political radicalization, Facebook
intentionally pushes posts up that will radicalize people and lead

(55:23):
them to be more likely to commit political violence, and
the victims' families can't sue. Imagine if like Chuck E
Cheese had a pedophile posted up there just grooming kids,
and they knew what was going on, or maybe they
didn't know what was going on, but it was happening
at their restaurant, and they failed to do anything about it.

(55:43):
And it happened over and over and over again, and
they never threw the guy out. They never bothered to
say what are you doing here? They never looked into it.
They didn't tell them me how to stop nothing. They
would get sued into bankruptcy for Facebook, for roadblocks, for
all these these social media apps and games and stuff.
Nothing can happen to them. There's nothing you can do.

(56:06):
They have no recourse, there's no consequences for their actions
or lack thereof. Doesn't that bother you a little bit? Now?
If they were just truly acting like an know because
once upon a time Facebook, you just refreshed Facebook and
you'd see the most recent post. Twitter was the same way.
Instagram was the same way. It didn't push specific people

(56:28):
in specific posts to the top of your feet. You
just saw whatever whatever was posted most recently of the
accounts that you follow. That's it. If they were doing that,
I wouldn't have a problem with saying, hey, these are
just dumb it. You can't sue them for this. I
wouldn't have as much of a problem with that. But

(56:52):
we're talking companies that have developed algorithms that specifically piss
you off, Algorithms that specifically are designed to not only
upset you, but keep you engaged with the things that
upset you, keep you scrolling, and I think they call
it doom scrolling. Now on the things that make you mad.
To find something that makes you angry and stick with it.

(57:14):
Go pull your fucking Twitter up, dude. It's a cesspool
right now. It's all just about political violence and war
and rage and anger, and they make money doing that.
Isn't that gross? Don't you think that that would be
a better use of our government's resources than about half

(57:36):
the crap they're focused on right now. I mean, we
have all these hearings and nothing ever happens. Talk about
these little girls that committed suicide because Instagram told them
they were ugly, to that great hearing. Congressional hearings are
the most bullshit showbuddy nonsense. Whenever I hear that Congress
is gonna have hearings about something, I immediately assume nothing's

(57:57):
gonna get done. Nothing's gonna get done. Oh, there's gonna
be a congressional hearing about X Y, or Z the issue.
I go, So that's something they're not actually serious about.
It's something they want to pretend they're serious about. It's
something that they can get that little thirteen second clip
that goes viral from when they're yelling at somebody and
scolding that nasty businessman. Don't you are a politician? Or whoever,
don't you do that again? And then they can turn

(58:20):
around and to red meat for their donors, and their
donors go, yeah, you're really taking it to them, you're
fighting for us. But nothing ever comes of the hearings.
They go in, they do their hearings, they know it's
a big, you know, pony show. It's all bread and circuses,
and they leave and nothing happens. When does anything ever happen?

(58:41):
Is one, namely, one piece of meaningful legislation that's ever
come from a congressional hearing. How long have we been
doing the UFO hearings? We always hear all, this is
the week we're gonna have the big drop on UFOs,
and blab blah. Nothing, nothing happens. They go on there,
they talk, people get to grift, and then they go
on the news and podcast circuit and they get their

(59:01):
name out there and they get, like I said, the
little clips they can take back for their ads when
they're trying to run for reelection. But nothing ever happens. Mark, dude,
if you try this, if you hear that the Congress
is going to have a hearing about something, whether it's
social media or UFOs or the Epstein files or or
January sixth, or or how the Biden administration treated members

(59:22):
of the Trump administration, just know, like you know, doj
abuses and stuff like that. Just know, nothing will ever
get done, Nothing will ever get done. It is all
a side show meant to make you think something is
going to get done, meant to make you think your
hopes are getting up. Here. You're meant to get your
hopes up on something they know good and well. They
have no plan of action for something like that. That's

(59:48):
been our show. That's been our show. We'll see you Wednesday,
WTF Wednesdays. Oh we're getting into spooky season here. We'll
see you. And then I am trying to figure out Saturday,
the Saturday show. And be honest with you, it's gonna

(01:00:09):
I want to do a show. I'm gonna be out
of town that whole week though, including Saturday itself. I
don't want to pre tape something super early, but I
also don't want to not give you a show. So
we're gonna try to do a show Wednesday. We may

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be able to, may not, and then uh, if I
can't do that, I'm gonna try to line up some interviews.
We'll see how it goes. As a chance, you gotta
go without me for a day, I'm sorry. He'll live.
It's probably better for you anyways. We will see you
guys on Wednesday, though, for sure, wtf Wednesdays shooting your
tax is not your spouse, and stay based