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November 12, 2025 74 mins
Candidate for Lt. Governor, Rico St. Cloud joins Caleb for a That's Based Interview.  Rico sits with Caleb and talks all things politics, including the ever growing woke take over of the Democrat Party, where they currently stand, and where he thinks they may be going in the future.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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All right, Well, we have got a guest on this
week for our midweek show. It's a guy who's been
on the show a number of times. You all know,
Rico sink Cloud. He's running for lieutenant governor. I don't

(01:10):
Ohio as a Democrat, so I'm gonna bring him in here.
How's it going, bro?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
What's going on? Everybody doing great? Last time I was
on the show, I was like one hundred and ten
percent wrong about the election. And I'm a man and
I can own up to that.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
That's okay. I appreciate that. That's we've all been wrong.
You know, it's shit happens. Shit happens. But uh so
what's all what else new? Dude? What's what's new with you?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Ah? Yeah? Man? So I've been ripping and running around
the state trying to run for like governor and like
the Senate governor, trying to figure out exactly what I
want to do. And Yeah, what I really figured out
is that, especially on well, I figured out why Democrats
lose all the time in a place like Ohio. Yeah,
it ain't got nothing to do with jemandering or anything
to do with anything of that. It has everything to

(01:56):
do with the fact that I was one hundred percent
wrong with the last election. Democrats run sucky candidate, and
on top of that, they have such terrible infrastructure as
far as messaging and everything you can think of when
it comes to politics.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
So what's weird to me is it seems like the Democrats,
I agree on the messaging and the candidates, but like
when we talk infrastructure, it seems like the fundraising is there,
the connections are there. They seem to have like a
political machine with especially with these social media activists that
kind of recite the same talking points and get them
across the different demographics. What do you think is lacking there?

(02:34):
Why is there such a disconnect between like the actual
machine and the infrastructure in terms of what their messaging.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Is because the machine absolutely never touches grass. The machine
stays online all day long. They look you in the
face and go, yeah, I'm terming online. You don't actually
understand like real life situations or real life issues because
they're always online. Yeah, So like the fundraising goes like
is if you would have can ended up at the

(03:02):
let's say present level. Right Democrats often have high dollar
donors who are always going to put money into the candidates,
and that's great, but that don't necessarily turn into vote.
It didn't. I mean, Harris broke the records as far
as fundraising in what one hundred and seven days and
got dog walked in seven swing states.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's you know, they had all the money,
they had all the backing, But I agree the message
wasn't there. And that was actually my big criticism of
the Republicans back in twenty twenty two when they had
that really underwhelming midterm performance and I was telling everybody,
you know, you had all these people on the right
talking about how it's going to be this big red wave,

(03:41):
red wave, and I go, guys, we don't have a message.
Our messages were not Biden, and that doesn't work. And
I see a lot of similarities with the way the
Democrats are going into twenty twenty six with how the
Republicans were in twenty twenty two, where they just kind
of think they have it in the bag because the
guy in office is unpopular and we can just kind
of throw our helmets out on the field and win
the game. I don't. I don't think that's going to work.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
So a lot of Democrats like to use chat GTP
the same way that Kanye West's ex wife uses it
very stupidly.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
So, like the way that Democrats look at elections is
they look at it is it's all one thing all
the time. The thing is is that elections and voters
are not monolithic. They're not very everybody's different. Every election changes,
every variable, and every election changes regardless if you run
the exact two same candidates at the exact two same

(04:34):
positions and exact two same elections, it's a whole new
year with whole new history that has unfolded. Democrats, for
some reason, are still stuck in two thousand and fucking eight,
you know, sorry, And I don't understand that because of
the Obama The magic that they felt that day has
never left their mind. And they swear you can copy
and paste that same appeal that Obama has to any candidate,

(04:56):
and it just doesn't worked that way.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And Republicans were stuck doing and that with Reagan for
a long time, with trying to copy paste Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
And they were and like, honestly, they kind of they
kind of like fumbled the ball into the end zone
and scored the touchdown, which George W. Bush versus Al Gore,
like al Gore across the metric should have been president.
But the reason why is because people like, ah, you know,
somebody else will vote for him, and like that didn't
happen and we get Bush and so like That's another

(05:26):
thing where Democrats fail to realize is that there's a
giant disconnect with like the mal vote mail voters. Right,
so like white mall voters between the ages of like
eighteen and thirty four hate Democrats, take everything Democrat everything blue.
Democrats don't understand that. They go, why do they hate us?
And I go, well, you guys, like Democrats have a

(05:48):
messaging messenger and an authenticity problem, and you don't seem
to understand it.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You don't think Newsom's the answer to your authenticity.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
No, you know what, Oh, I do have an answer.
His name is Andy brasherd in Kentucky. Yeah, two times
Democrat governor of the state of Kentucky who has had
nothing but Republican legislators in both the House and the Senate,
but somehow takes care of Kentucky with no problem.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, he gets stuff done downe there.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
He does. He really does, and the people love him
for that because he's honest and truthful with people and
it's okay to make mistakes Like That's why you know,
came onto the show going yo, man, last time was
on here was wrong because most people cannot go, hey,
I was wrong. Everybody wants to either be first or
be right after the fact and be like I was.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Right Hindsight's twenty twenty action there. Yeah, you know. I
we played a clip on the show a couple of
weeks ago, and I just think it perfectly encapsulated what
the problem is with today's Democrat Party. It was a
song that someone I knew shared to like Facebook or
something like that, and it's a guy he's like a
folk singer. I don't remember what the guy's name is,

(06:59):
but singing. It was around Halloween time and he's do
you know what I'm talking about? Or no, okay, you're
laughing like you do? Who I don't?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I don't, but like that sounds on brand for like
I gotta so. I have a word for them. I
call them Adams. It's Magan reverse Agams.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Adams agams and reverse because they're doing everything that stupid
magas did when they lost. They're going around making copy
making I'm not making this up Project twenty twenty six
pamphlets and pass them out to people. I promise you, bro,
I'm gonna send you all these stupid pictures from all
these I have been going around like an undercover agent

(07:37):
to all the most progressively liberal things to try and
figure out if they might have the answer. Not that
I care, but I've been to them fifty to fifty
one planning organization meetings, man, and they are the dumbest
things you can think of, Like, oh, it's it's.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's unhinged, it is I I went to UH. I
went undercover to the No Kings rally back around fourth
of July with with a friend of mine that runs
a news site and he wanted to write some stories
and I'm like, oh, he said, I do not want
to go to this thing alone. Will you come with me?
And I'm like, I'll take some pictures, my brother. They
are the lunatic fringe. I'm not going to say it's

(08:16):
the majority of them, but it's a big enough percentage
now that it's a real problem. I had a guy
walk up to me. Mind you, I'm in an a
limp biscuit T shirt. I'm not wearing anything, pile nothing.
All right. Yeah, guy walks up to me and says, hey,
we don't like that Nazi shit around here. And I went,
are you talking about fred Durst? And he goes, no,
that shit around your neck? And I looked down, dude,

(08:36):
I had a Saint Patrick pendant because I'm a Catholic
and a crucifix around my neck. Went are you talking
about this? And he goes, yeah, that's Nazi stuff. I went,
this is a Catholic pendan. He goes, oh, it's the
same thing. And I'm like, all right, dude, you have
a good day. And he just walks away and I'm like,
you're going to walk up to a guy who's not
causing a seat, He's just chilling and telling me he's

(08:57):
a Nazi because he has a Catholic pendan around his neck.
That's your problem is you're that shit may play on Reddit,
but the average dude is going to be so alienated
by that.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yes, very much. So Like okay, so I got I'm
boone to pick with this whole Like no kings protests
and blah blah blah. Right, So I'm a man who
likes to listen to music, and a great artist once
said men lie, women lie, numbers don't lie, and so

(09:28):
like I swear that you know, all these people you
see at these No Kings protests and all the other nonsense, right,
you think it'd be some kind of tangible like translation
of like uh of some some kind of political move right.
So they have this thing where they're saying that three
point five percent of any given population can overthrow a government,
and I go, where's this math coming from? So this

(09:52):
math coming from some person out of Harvard that came
up with this thing, And I go, wait, wait, wait,
let let's stop off to top three point five percent
of any given population take over any tyrannical government. Weird?
How like Ukraine's still at Russia four years later?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Right like that?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's like, I okay, so like let's start playing with
some math. Okay, So these people keep screaming that there
was like what ten million people to go to these
New Kings protests or something like that. Yeah, okay, I'm
not like the biggest math guy, because like I didn't say,
do you need math in College. So like, if ten
percent of the or at least ten ten million people
came out to these now Kings protests, and there's three

(10:31):
hundred and thirty million people in America, I'm pretty sure
that's gotta be bigger than three point five percent of
the population. So I'm wondering why they keep screaming Trump
still tyrannical. But yet they can go out and all
these protests and go out to all these elections and
winning landslides. Yeah, on election day, but yet less than
a week later you have Democrats going, all right, we've
had the government shut down long enough. We need to

(10:53):
fix this problem. Yes, for those same people to go,
we need to primary all of them.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
All of them, all of them. Dude. I was looking
at the so the eight Democrats that signed on to
the shutdown killer bill. I mean, I'm looking at somebody
you could probably get away with. The guy in Illinois,
I don't for Angus King's not even a Democrat, he's
an independent. So he's just getting thrown in there for
no reason. He's catching strays.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
For no reason.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
And then you've got I mean, I'm looking at the
other you've got Fetterman, and then you've got two in
New Hampshire and two in Nevada, and I'm like, dude,
what you guys don't get is we have this issue
in Nebraska's second district. Is we have a lot of
people that get upset that the candidates we nominate aren't
on the Republican side, aren't far enough to the right.
And it's kind of like, Okay, I get it, but

(11:39):
we're not gonna win any further to the right than
the two we've got right now. And it's kind of
the similar, the same thing, but reverse over there in
states like New Hampshire and Nevada, you can't go that
much further to the left than what they've already got
in those senators and still win.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's like the beauty of how like this the shutdown
killer bill occurred. Is all eight of them people and
vote them out office. They're either retiring or you can't
touch them until twenty thirty. Yeah, yeah, is the art
of politics. In the Senate or in the House, you
can yell all that stupid nonsense that had King Jeffries

(12:15):
or is I had to call him loser lights skin
Obama all he wants down at the House. But in
the Senate Fetterman has been one hundred and ten percent
right as the only sole Democrat that's been up there yelling,
hey man, this shutdown is directly impacting people's lives right now.
Don't get me wrong. Healthcare substanties aren't important, but guess

(12:35):
what's more important getting people's paychecks right now. And so
like now you have a schism in the Democrat Party
where you have someone like me who is a moderate,
a through and through moderate where I go. I'm basically
like an umpire at a nice softball game, all balls
and strikes. You give me a beer, I'll drink it.
That's it. That's it, man. But no, you know what's

(12:58):
in charge of my party the most proressive losers you
can think of. And boy, I hope they see my
face and get mad when I hear this, because it's true.
These losers need to get out of the way and
let real people like me lead. Somebody who's been blown
up in combat but also save people's lives in combat
and understands that you have to make hard decisions for

(13:19):
people to survive.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
It is that it really does seem like a problem
with the Democrat Party as you look at the people
that and I'm not talking even necessarily talking about the candidates.
I'm talking about the people that are like the party
chairs and like the lead activists and the organizers, the
ones who are leading things from behind the scenes. And
it is it's a bunch of theater kids that, like
you said, are terminally online. They don't go outside and

(13:42):
talk to people. They don't like you and I can
sit here and have a conversation and I can tell
that this isn't a performance, like you're just talking to
me like a human, Whereas these people they come on
and you know, they've got the same five talking points
already rehearsed. And I would challenge people, you've got primary,
excuse me, midterm elections coming up next year. Pick a candidate,
and it doesn't matter what party they're in. Pick a candidate,

(14:04):
and then follow all of their media, their interviews, and
I guarantee you you're going to hear them say the
exact same things verbatim at least three to four times
because it's all rehearsed.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
The speaking of party cheers here in the state of Ohio.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh you got beef with one, don't you?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh couple, not just one a couple. So like all right,
I'm running for office, just trying to figure out, like
what's the whole mess about? Like how can Democrats repeatedly
have loser after loser go up here and lose when
I have to go vote, and I go, well, you know,
the wine's not a bad person. He's not. So I'm

(14:42):
a vote for governor the wine, which I have. But
also I can turn around and look affacta, go how
is he so bad? What's he's really screaming at? Too bad?
That make democrats? Go? Now, I go, he's a young
person of color. Ain't that your whole target audience? Right,
he's under forty Ain't that your whole target audience? Like?
Why do you hate because he's on the side of Trump?

(15:03):
And I go, yeah, man, Trump in charge. You gotta
work with this man. There have been plenty of people
I didn't work with that I don't like. I gotta
swallow up pride and go, hey, he's the books, he's
in charge.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, oh man, I mean.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Shit talk this person the moment I get in my car. Yeah,
But the moment I get out and have to walk
instead of office and to look him in the eye,
and I know he's in charge. I go, yeah, he's
in charge. We gotta follow this man's orders.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
That's exactly how it works. And I don't understand why
that's so difficult. I mean, like I understand, you don't.
I understand. It's it's almost become like a team sport
and you're trying to score points on the other guy
and stuff like that. But you know this isn't a game.
These are. I mean it's like with the shutdown, there
was millions of people's lives where at stake here that
how many people do you know that can afford to

(15:48):
miss more than one or two paychecks? Not very many?
And again it just shows the disconnect. I mean I
personally think that not only should Congress not get paid
during it's the shutdown, I don't think the staffers should
get paid either, so they can go look the people
that work for them in the eye every single day
and say, yeah, you're not getting paid because of me. Sorry.
I think that would make it a little bit more direct.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I under agree with you, I on hundredson agree. But
to the Democrat, like, why why they can't ever see
the issue? One is because it's like it's a pie approach,
like every problem in life is a pie approach. It's
not just one thing. It's it's a pie, you know,
several things, but one also big thing. Democrats about this

(16:30):
whole whole government shutdown. I would go on Facebook and go, hey, man,
Democrats have culture and I kept saying that, and I
don't think anybody understood what I was saying.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Culture or culture culture, culture, all right.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
So in nineteen seventy five a lot was passed in
the Senate that established culture law. Basically, what it means
is that like the majority party in the Senate could
not railroad, the minority party in the Senate no longer.
And this gave them some kind of leverage to push
back because the whole premise of the Constitution is to
tech the rights of the minority party from the overreach

(17:03):
of the majority party. That is almost word for word
with what Thomas Jefferson and what Hamilton said. Right. So,
now you have this this party that legitimately doesn't want
to work with nobody, and if it's not their way,
if it's not exactly their way, you're a bigot, you're nazi,

(17:25):
you're all these words that these green But yet you
turn around and crack and then they joke at you
and they want to see you, and I'm like, wait, man,
where's the where's the lines at? You want to cancel
d Chappelle because he made trans jokes about his trans friend.
But yet when a veteran looks you in the face,
you go, oh, I don't like veterans. I never have.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
And we're told, oh, dude, by a party chair, by
a party in Ohio. Yes, a party chair, Yes, yes.
I don't know if you can say their name because
it might get a sued, but anyway you can allowborate
on what happened. I'd love to hear.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh man, I'll give you a couple of stories. So, like,
there's this uh one person. We're not gonna name her names,
but we're gonna call her leathery leathery football face lady.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Leather face.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
There you go, leathery football face lady. Right, So, leathery
football face lady is a secretary or a secretary I
can't say where, but she's up there and then in
the party. Yeah, and this when I was runn around
giving my speeches out in the rural areas, I was,
I tried talking to her and she's like, no, I

(18:33):
don't I don't care what you have to say why?
She goes, I just you're not my candidate. I don't
support you. And I go, well, I'm a combat vedroom.
She goes, I don't care. I don't support the military.
I never have. Wow. Wait wait what wait wait wait what.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
And this is party brass. This is not loser on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no man,
this is the Democrat Party. This is I've had people
looking in the eye and go, yeah, I never cared
about military. Oh but boy, you know they're always screaming,
you know, black lives matter, and I go literally yeah,
or is it just a talking point? Like, man, you
want to know why people are so disinterested with Democrats

(19:11):
because them people are frauds. If the Democrats were football players,
they all would be Josh Allen's right now, like you
look good on paper, but boy, you put them under
a pressure situation and they fold.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Baker Mayfields yeah oh.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Wait no, no, we're not talking bout about Baker Baker ball
all right, like Baker in his house, all.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Right, Patriots got him, So I'm taking yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
We had I mean, I love Baker, but he had
to lose yesterday. Yes, correct, Democrats. They are the meanest people.
Case in point, I got an award from the president, right.
You know what these fuckers said to me, which president?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
You got awards from? Both?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah? But they were like which one? And I go, wait,
I got an award from the president and they kept
going which one, and my wife pointed out, why does
it matter it's from the president. And then people go,
if it's from Trump, we don't care.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Wow, yeah, dude, And what you were doing, what you
got an award for, was not political at all. No,
it wasn't. It's like a thing that whether you're on
the right of the left of the center, everyone can
agree that what you were getting an award for was
a good thing. You can elaborate what it was if
you want to. I'm not gonna So, like, okay, I
won back.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
So I'm a two time volunteer Presidential Award winner. I
received one from Joe Biden and yes it was Autoban.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Hey you said it, not me. And yes I received.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
One from Trump, but because of the government shutdown, it
really wasn't from Trump. Oh yeah, So like it's cool
because I got them from both. Anyways, the award is
for I run a free daycare slash summer camp with
my wife called Camp Sunshine. This is because one day
we were out on our porch and there was a
kid run into the neighborhood and this kid had to

(21:02):
be like two years old and it almost got hit.
To buy a car, I got up ran and save
this kid from getting hit buy a car, and I go, hey, man,
I should do something. And my neighbor she was like, hey, Rico,
I saw you say this baby. If I'm getting to
buy a car, can you watch my special shot while
I go to work. Yeah? Sure, And the problem she goes,
I'll pay you go no, no, no, no, it's you.
I'll take care of them, and she goes, oh cool.

(21:24):
We got Rico's daycare and I was like, I don't
like that, but you know what's what. So like after
a while ago I got to come up with a
better name because Rico's daycare just doesn't know off it's
honey afterally, no, So I came up with Camp Sunshine.
And this is a throwback to my top secret deployment.
Remember when I fell off the face of the planet

(21:44):
for about a year. Yeah yeah, yeah, So that deployment
was to go on Tonam obay, Oh nice. Yeah, I
was at the real Camp Sunshine. I can't say anything else,
but I always got at the real Camp Sunshine. And
that's kind of where that name comes back.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Do you waterboard the kids when they misbehave?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Uh? No, we shoot them with aerosoft guns.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Okay, yeah, you think I'm showing him not.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
So like at at uh in jail blasters. Yeah, and
so like at Camp Shuntown, what we do is like
it's it's uh for uh all the kids in the neighborhood.
So there's about like thirty kids, and so like we
help them with their homework. We also give them something
to do. We uh started a Camp shunshown Blusory uh
a p history. So it's a little pop up baked

(22:29):
stam So I read all the laws and so I
had these kids out here, uh in the fall. We
were baking the goods and they were selling them and
so they made like five hundred bucks in like two weeks.
Like one kid bought themselfs a scooter and all this
other stuff. So we teach them like entrepreneurship, but also
like we teach them, you know, good time. So like
we let them take that money whatever whatever they want
and uh, the money will go out to like theme

(22:51):
parks and stuff like that. Yeah, or we'll buy video
games and just kind of hang out here. But yeah,
the parents love it. They're always paying us, trying to
pay us, but we don't take money, so they they
give us big goods and I'm always down to take
bake goods.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
So this is like canonized. This is Saint type stuff.
And someone tried to make this political.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah yeah, man, so like for real, like both like
this thing. Everybody loves it. So I like Camp Sunshine's
want awards from the University of Cincinnati, the Ohio State House,
and like the White House. So it's nothing that. Like,
we also want awards from the Bengals. Yeah, cut out
to the Bengals. They gave me my wife a free
roof for our house because she's an amazing war hero.

(23:29):
But I digress.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Team.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, Hey, Cincinnati's amazing place. Just simple shout out it
really is. The politics here suck, but it's an amazing place.
If you ever want to come to Cincinnati, come here.
I will show you a good time and we'll eat skyline.
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, you know what I think me and my brother
are gonna pop up there for a Bengals game. Sometimes
you usually.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Come to the Pats Bengals game one. It's a direct
flight to most places from CVG two. These chickens are
hell of cheap because the.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Bengals ain't doing things suck. Yeah, I see, I have
something I have to be in town for that weekend.
Otherwise I would probably go with him. But yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
But like the politics of like the Democrat Party in
Ohio sucks because they're ran by like the oldest people
you can think of and the most progressively gay people
you can think of. Like I'm not making this up.
People who don't clap, but they do this.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Man, Like these people like you ask them, hey, man,
y'all do anything for Vetor's Day? They go no, but
turn around and have a pride event in November.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah with them, Like, dude, I don't so how did
this because they didn't always used to be like this.
I'm old enough to remember the Clinton Democrats and everything.
How did this institutional rot just slowly take over from
the inside out?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
When Donald Trump became the President of d United States.
Remember that lady who freaked out at the White House
scream in there. Yeah, yes, yeah, she runs. She's the
Charism Party now.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So he just he really did just break people.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yes, look, man, when he got elected, I wasn't happy.
I wasn't, man, because I like all it, like in
twenty sixteen, all the things that he did, and I
was like, I can't vote for this, right, I grit
my teeth and vote for Hillary and go, hope you win,
but you didn't. But you know what I didn't do.
I didn't stomp my feet or anything. I go, hey, man,
Donald Trump's president. I welcome as president in the administration
with open arms. You know why, because he's the president.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Why would I want the president to do bad? Do
I think Russia got involved with American politics? No? I
think just Americans are that fucking stupid? Yeah, seriously, not
one single Russian came and switched a vote. Nope. But
you know what, Trump lost the election in twenty twenty
because of COVID and how he handled it.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, I think I think like Russia and Chinese assets
certainly try to rile people up. No, they don't come
and switch votes or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
But no, different, It's no different than what we do
with anybody.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Else we do it to them.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, and it's it's all a fair game now because
nobody can actually individually change a vote. But man, I
can definitely put my endorsement behind some body and go, Wow,
this dude's backing his guy. Maybe I should too. Did
Elon must is millions of dollars chains the outcome of
the election? No, them people were already voting for Trump. Yeah,
most were just giving people money.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I don't think Elon moved the needle quite as much
as people think he did. I think he helped, but
I don't. I don't think Trump loses, like if Elon
doesn't throw his knee, because here's my thing is for
everyone that Elon might have brought on, I think the
Elon creeps me out. Man, the whole always has, the
whole tech, not just Elon though. Like there's that fucking

(26:34):
picture from the inauguration where you've got Elon, Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos,
and the guy from Google. They're all four and teel
all five of them are sitting right there and it's
like you're looking over like these tech overlords and it's
like you guys were all borderline socialist a couple of
years ago now you're on board with the MAGA thing.
Oh no, you don't have values, you don't have beliefs.

(26:56):
You just want access to power. That's what this is.
They all creep me out. So I don't know. That's
just my diatribe about the tech guys.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
So I have a term for this, this era we're in.
I call the stupid tech bro dark ages. Yeah, and
the reason why I call that is because tech bros
want to keep you online as much as possible. Caton Point,
one of the chair party chairs here in Ohio told

(27:23):
me for every like on Facebook, for every comment that
he gets is one cent, And I go, what, Because, Yeah,
if you look on somebody's Facebook feed and you see
if it says uh, pro public figure and it says
like entrepreneur or digital creator or whatever, they get paid content.
Now that's why if you look at your Facebook feeds,
all this garbage on that at my mind. Yeah, but

(27:48):
all them people are real people and they keep pushing
stuff on the algorithm because they get paid for every engagement,
every single like, every single comment, yes, every single comment.
You thought Twitter it was bad, No, them old fucking
people on Facebook, then figure it out. You can monetize
on Facebook. That's why they keep all that shit. There's
a lady by the name of uh. I can't see

(28:09):
her name, but she got a little account by the
name of me and my politics here in Ohio, and
she swears she's a queen maker in politics. Nope, she
a grift there. She used to be a chair party
and now all she do is going there and she
shovels her shit to people and pretend that she's some hero.
And then she peddles all her for coffee cups and
then like, ah, I made my politics and all the
other ignorance merch, merch, merch and that. And this is

(28:35):
where I differ from everybody else. Chat GPT people like
to use it in a way that is real stupid.
I don't. I like to like talk to chat like
an intelligent person.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I go chat.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I noticed that the Democrats are run it in fear
candidates right now for their party. What if they ran
a combat that that runs a free daycare so last
summer camp. That's one awards from multiple presidents. And this
person has multiple degrees and right down in the middle,
like nonpartisan in a red.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
State where Democrats can't really win, you know, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Like, here's where you get interesting. Right, So I love
like when people bring up red versus blue? Right?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
How many how many registered voters do you think they
are under state of Ohio?

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Say? What fuck? I'm gonna be way off here. I'm
gonna fight two and a half million, Okay?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Out of the entire state of Ohio, there are eight
point five million registered voters. There are eleven point like
eight to nine ers million residents in Ohio. Right now,
I'm gonna play a little gona do a little matter trick.
Out of eight point five million registered voters, how many
of them do you think are Republican?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Okay? That one. I'm going to say the two and
a half million, okay.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
As of twenty twenty five November, Yeah, there are one
point six million registered Republicans in a state of Ohio.
How many register Democrats you think they're in sate to Ohio?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
One?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
As of November twenty twenty five, there are only eight
hundred thousand registered Democrats in the entire state of Ohio.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
That was my first guest, but I thought it was
going to be a lot lower. So now you still
got like six million independent.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
By point eight unaffiliated voters. Ohio not a red state
and not a blue state. It is Ohio much like
every other state in d United States of America. Unaffiliated
voters are the ones that truly governor America. They're the
ones who decide the elections. It's not Democrat partisans, it's
not Republican partisans. It is truly independence. The person that goes, dude,

(30:43):
I don't vote every year. I vote play on the
midterms and then the general. Then people are the ones
that decide the elections. And you know what Democrats are
doing to them. They're calling them people stupid. Yeah, they're like, well.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
They just don't they educate themselves on the issues. And
I'm like, dude, you don't educate yourself on an issue,
You'll just hop on TikTok and look at somebody's feet
and go I know everything.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah. Well, well that and that guy in Ohio that,
like you said, votes once maybe twice every four years.
He's working two jobs. He can't ford to educate the issues.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
That dude who votes once twice every four years also
is a federal employee who've been furloughed for the last month.
And who knows better who knows that Democrats, the ones
that are screaming all the stupid nonsense about health insurance
and whatnot, go, dude, that's great, but I'm not getting paid.
My lights need to be turned on, and my kids
need to eat.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yep, he's I've had driving Uber Eats or Max and
credit cards out.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I've had people that have high ranking Democrats that have
looked at me in the eye and go, that's great.
You know, it sucks that your brother and your nephew
and your other friends and family members that aren't getting
paid right now. But what about these people's healthcare subsidies?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, like a dead series.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
And I'm going, dude, you would rather people start right
now then worry about somebody health care subtyes. Which is important.
It is important. But yet Democrats have to hasn't Senate
and White House back in twenty twenty all the way
to twenty twenty two and did nothing about this.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, they kicked the can down the road, they.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Did, and it got implemented in twenty twenty one, and
they knew this was gonna expire and did nothing nothing
about this. All they did was they kept saying, hey,
Donald Trump's evil Donald Trump to throught the democracy, not
oh shit, your healthcare stuffany is about their expire. So
maybe so here's.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Here's my question on the subsidies. If they if Trump
saw that evil and they knew he was gonna run again,
why on earth would they put making the subsidies permanent
into Trump's hands. Why wouldn't they have just taken care
of it back in twenty twenty one when this was
initially supposed to expire. Why would they Unless they're trying
to use it as a political football, why would they

(32:55):
put that type of I mean, that's a serious thing
for a lot of people regard Listen how you feel
about the subsidies. Why would they put that into Trump's hands?
Knowing good and well he could very well be back
in the White House in a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
So Democrats never thought they losing him. They go, hey, man,
they voted for Biden. They gave Biden the most votes
in any president election. They'll vote for anybody. But these
morons don't understand that every election is a new election
with new variables. There is an actual equation called the
calculus of a voter equation that tells you exactly how

(33:28):
a person votes. What do I mean by that, not
not parsons or anything, but they weigh how much an
issue is important to somebody versus how cool candid it is.
And honestly, man, when I saw Trump go to a
McDonald's and fries and stuff, I.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Go over, it was over.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I seen him dress up as a truck man. I go,
it's only funny if he loses. I go, I'm seeing
something with Harris never did, and Harris gon cry about
every excuse in the world. But the fact is is
that all frail Joe Biden got eighty one million votes
and he never left his basement. But yet everybody in
the world knows who the fuck Vice President Kamala Harris

(34:07):
is and she couldn't get more than seventy five. Maybe
it's because you know it's her.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, that's I mean, there was a lot of arrogance
with that campaign, like refusing to go on the podcast
circle cycle and everything like that. You know, she the
one she did was that Call Her Daddy show, which,
let's be honest, if you're tuning in to call Her Daddy,
you were probably already voting for Kambala Harris. But you
know they had shows like like you saw Donald Trump
and bants. They're both on shows like Joe Rogan Andrew

(34:35):
Schultz guys that are I mean the audience of that.
They may lean more to the right, but there's a
lot of undecided or just indifferent voters on there that
she didn't even bother to reach because she didn't think
she needed them.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
She just like Hillary, the humors of these women are
their default. Like, seriously, the vaginal humors on both these
women are the reason why they were Like they could
have went on whatever podcast and then whenever they wanted,
they would have still lost because people didn't like them.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I agree. I actually think if she would have went
on Rogan, that would have hurt her because I think
exposed and herd for three hours like that would have
been a disaster.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
As a fraud, she was a fraud. She's always been
a fraud. Man Like like, I'm sorry, but she said
that she worked at a McDonald's back in nineteen eighty seven.
I'm sorry, bro, but I worked at a dunkin Donuts
in New England back in two thousand and eight. And
I promise you I could find some fucking body to
verify that. Yeah, you tell me, this lady went to

(35:36):
fucking Howard and not one person seeing her at the
firelighter at McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, dude, No, I was doing under the table.
My first job was under the table work. I was
building shelving units for a warehouse because they didn't want
to pay someone for health insurance to come in and
do it because it was gonna be too much of
a fucking liability. I still have that guy's number. I
could verify that I worked there with like a phone call,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Like, another problem with the Democrat Party is that the
vast majority of the people in the Democrat Party, not
only are they college educated, not only are they like
Harvard educated, but they're so educated they're far moved from
the average person where if you talk to them about sports,
they get uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yep, yeah yeah, man, Like, Yo, what's the Bengals?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
What's the spread? And he goes spread. I would never
supports pat, I go, oh, I'm sorry, virgin Mary.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Well, yeah, and that's exactly it, as I mean. And
you see like the way that like they've trampled on
just American pastimes, Like you see more and more people
posting all over social media during the Fourth of July
about how much they hate America, and I'm like, dude,
the average guy is not thinking about left versus right.
He wants to have a cigar and smoke some meat
and blow some shit up and get drunk with his

(36:53):
family and friends. He doesn't fucking care. And you're alienating
him by calling him a fascist because he wants to
tune out of that stuff for a couple of hours.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Bro, my wife is like the manner in this relationship
and I don't mean that and like like pegging type
of shit.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
They gotta go there.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
What I mean is that, like, okay, so like we've
been together for a minute, right, and like she is
a rural Ohio girl who grew up like bailing hay
and like riding horses and doing like you know, average
like rule woman Ohio. Shit right, she is so off

(37:31):
put by these fucking democrats. I got about to go
to this fifty to fifty one No King's protest in Columbus.
So I'm running for office and I'm not out there
trying to say I hate America anything. I just wanted
people sign on fucking petition. That's it. The miss is,
she goes Rico. I know you really want to get
on the ballot, But I think you just stay away
from this. Why I go, Why she goes, Rico, it's

(37:53):
the fourth July. What the fuck would you want to
go spend your fourth July with these miserable people. In
the moment she said that, I go, you right, man,
I want to blow some ship up. And you know
we did. Man. We went out and bought we got
thousand dollars worth of fireworks for Camp Sunshine, and we
blew up so much ship we almost got into a
fight with a guy driving by.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
That's net positive on society than going to the King's protest.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Dude. We had such a great time, man. My wife
made the best fucking barbecue.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
We had like all we had the entire neighborhood at
our house just blowing ship up, and like we had
a we had a kid there or now longay, we
had a person there who was like a like insane
lip lip person. Right, me and my boy uh me
and my buddy modude, we were making are not our
Kelly jokes, We were making diddy jokes, Diddy jokes, right,

(38:52):
And this dude came from all the way on the
other side of the yard, like are you guys making
Diddy jokes And I'm like, dude, I'm like three beers
deep in a little hot what do you on right now?
And he's like, are you making Diddy jokes with all
these kids around here? I go what Like he had
to physically be pulled away from Like, oh my god, yeah, dude,

(39:17):
I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Well, yeah, that's like I was talking about, as you have.
And that's the thing is people don't like to walk
on eggshells around everybody. They don't. And that's the other
thing is you see so much resentment and it's kind
I call him the HR class. It's kind of what
you were talking about, the women with the hebris and
everything is people for so long they were told, hey,
we're going to ruin your life and take your job

(39:41):
away and ostracize. It isolate you socially if you make
jokes that aren't quote unquote corporate approved, even if you're
not at work. And there's a ton of resentment for that. Now,
that was the the Kamala Harris losing was a rejection
of the HR class because I can't maybe other than
Hillary Clinton, who they ran a couple of years ago,
I can't think of anyone who embodies HR more than

(40:02):
Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Her to a team man, like she is everything that
like everything that you would be like, oh my god,
she is. She's the HR lady you see walking You're like,
oh my god.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, she's the one that stands up and yells something
at the comedian when he's on stage because she felt
that he crossed the line and like thinks she's gonna
just score these points on him or something, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Like I for real this like there is a segment
of like, okay, so the Democrat Party at large is
not like this. They're really not. The people in charge
of the party are the ones that, like, yes, they're
the problem. Seriously, Like like I I read all the time,
and I read like the Commedist manifesto, and like, could
you apply the company's manifesto to like like like principal

(40:48):
monopoly money Like no, no, no, no no, it wasn't no capitalism,
it's king. It's always booby king. But if you take
the company's manifesto and look at it from a societal
point of weapon, proletariat or like the Democrat Party, the
Democrats elites, the people who dump all the fun, the

(41:08):
money and like the party cheers. They're the ones at
the very bottom that are screaming, we know what we want. Yeah,
the proletariats, the me and you, the everyday man. I
just want to chill watch a little football, Like I
got the game on the back right now.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I'm like, I just that's all I want on Monday. Nope.
You know these people are screaming about. They're screaming about
how like Trump is the fastest or something. Yeah, from
Monday night.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, that's that's what they're doing. And you know I
was talking about earlier we got trailed, but there was
that that folk song about uh. It was right around
Halloween time. Someone shared it, and the song was all
about how you know, people are putting up Halloween decorations
with skeletons and all this shit, and meanwhile there's actual
wars and genocides going on in other countries, and the
whole point of the song, it was like four minutes,

(41:53):
was basically just to shame people for putting up Halloween
decorations and making light of what's a serial a situation
for someone else halfway across the world. And I came
on here and I'm like, you guys don't get that's
why people hate you. That's why people hate you. Like
the Halloween decoration guy that puts up the eight hundred
dollars design out in his front yard. That's the vote

(42:15):
you need to win. That's you gotta win. The Halloween guy.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
They were like Democrats were screaming to during Halloween to
only give out Union improved candy.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
What yeah, the Union improved candy.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
It was some weird shit. It was like all the
nastiest fucking candy you can think of, cross like candy
corn and like mounds with raisins. I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Like what so full disclosure, I actually like candy corn.
I grew up eating it when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
So that's fine, that's fine, But like the way they're pushing.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
It, man, I know it's not my first choice.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
That Like they were like, yeah, I eat black liquors.
I was like, black liquor, it's the fuck, Like, it's
not that bad.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
It's seventy three years so the.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Only people are like the average age of the party
chairs in Ohio for the Yeah, so one of them like,
whyted you to come talk some shit to his face
or something, right. Yeah, so I'll talk about this dude.
I'm not gonna mention his name because you're like, I'll
see you blah blah blah. All right, So this person
is now a party chairing a Democrat party, but he

(43:23):
voted for Trump twice. Yeah, Like it's I I'm sorry, man,
but like, if you want to sell Democrat like policy
and stuff on me, I'm I can't hear it coming
from a guy who voted for Trump twice.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
What caused the changeup?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Oh, he got kicked out his party what. Yeah, So
like he was like, allright, hey, Trump's fucking us ouver
on the soybeans. And they were like, yeah, he's gonna
figure this out. Be quiet. He was like no, and
he was like, I got a loser and then kicked
him out. Yeah, they keep the fit out and so
like now he goes around and he's like I'm a
president some like Ohio Rural Caucus or some bullshit. So

(43:59):
this dude, he's one of the dudes to tell me
that I don't understand like rural people. And I'm like, oh, yeah, dude,
A little bit about me. I was born in Louisiana.
I was born in a town called account that has
less than four hundred fucking people in it, no stoplights,
and half the town speaks French. I'm surrounded by sugarcanes.

(44:19):
Like I didn't speak English. So I was like three,
like that's how fucking rule I am. And this dude
look me know I and go, you don't understand rural politics.
I go, oh, dude, I picked. I picked cotton, tobacco
and sugarcane. What do you mean? I don't real shit, Yeah,
it is not fun. Picking My tobacco is.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Not you know, I've only ever smoked it, so I
can't tell you I appreciate the hard work you did
down there, though, so it goes from your hand in
my mouth.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, my grandpa he put me on like he worked
like a slave dude. Like shout out, shout out to
my grandpa. Out in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Everyone's got that one grandpa that was a slave driver,
you know.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, this dude had me out there with like me
and a bunch of medsicans. I didn't know at like
four o'clock in the morning, no sunlight, and we're out
there like pict and tobacco and I made I was
out there for like sixteen hours and I made a
measly twenty fucking dollars.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oh my god, dude, dude, that's lower than like Taiwanese
kids get here.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, I was. This dude really gave me the family discount.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Oh my god, that's cry. That's so cool. Oh that's great.
We need to bring child labor back in this country.
The children. You're in for the mines.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
But oh no, I mean that's why we make them
work here at camps. I'm shying, and they understand the
value of a dollar.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Perfect love it, love it. So he wants you to
say it to his face or what's going on?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah? So like okay, I would go on this dude,
not this dude's Facebook page, but like it's public, like person,
like the professional, right, Yeah, And like he put out
a message about the VEK and like the way they
the way they're trying to like stop the VEK is
the most stupidest thing I've ever done or I've ever seen.

(46:07):
So these people are trying to invade social media and
blast the and flood the zone with their content. So
this dude is like, does know how to handle two
hundred and eighty head of cattle and four hundred yards
of soybeans. Yeah, man, and like, so I comment on

(46:28):
the ship and I'm like, dude, I go, this is
an ineffective message. Yeah, if you really want farmers to
listen to what you have to say, this is ineffective.
They don't want nobody yelling at them. They want somebody
to meet them halfway on an issue, any issue. Yeah boy,
oh no man, and the Agham Army came after me. Dude,

(46:48):
these people are still lighting up my mentioned, going, you
fucking idiot, that's not how this works.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Be kind fuck that. I'm like, damn yeah kind days.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, so my whole thing, My whole thing is like
truly be kind, like I like, so my be kind
comes from like the Bible, and like I'm not gonna
be like I'm not super like I'm super duper religious,
but going to myself. Sure, like my relationship with the
dude upstairs only between me and him. So I keep
a lot of my religious stuff to myself, but kind
of know the Bible back back and forth. So first

(47:22):
Peter four eight. You know, love can cover a multitude
of sin. Love everybody like you love each other. Right,
That's kind of my whole thing. So I'm never like
outwardly mean to anybody on social media because it's easy
to be mean. Yeah, this dude got tired of me
saying this. He got tired of me going and I
quote he voted for Trump twice.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Why are you listening to him? You use his own
actions against him?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, this dude anywhere. So there's like there's like four
or five party chairs that have now seen the light
that have come over to the other side because it's
beneficient for them. There's like another dude who voted for
Trump that got mad at me when I'm like, you
voted for Trump, and like this dude was like, you
should be a Republican. I'm like, you voted for Trump.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, like you voted for Trump.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
He's like I was young and naive and now I'm
an adult and I go, you voted for Trump. You
were over the age.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Of eighteen, right, Yeah, the state said you can go
die in a war, you know, own it.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Owned, speaking of which shot out to Marines.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Oh yeah, that's your happy birthday. Yeah, happy Veterans Day too,
man to all the veterans out there were daylight. But
you know, but like.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
These people, they really swear they know what's right. Like
I have been running a very different campaign where I'm
just going around talking people face to face. Seriously, I
don't I'm not online because like, what's that achieve online?
Talking to you face to face, going hey, I understand
your issues. You want to governor that's a balance, but
be understandable. Yeah, I've had like policies and pregs all

(48:55):
line up and everything. But what Democrats love more than
anything right now, like clicks fuse retweets.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Which is the exact problem that the Republicans had a
couple of years ago, where it was more about the
clout chasing and the influencer culture than it was about
actually getting results.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Trump is the best thing and this happened to the
Democrat Party and they keep fucking it up.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
He is, on paper, should be the easiest guy to beat.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Not only that, but like James Carvell down in My
Beloved Louisiana said, let them do whatever they want. You're
not in charge, Democrats. Why are y'all running around doing
this and doing that. Let the Republicans do what they want.
They're in charge, they're the adult. If their policies are
not working, the elections of the midterm should be easy. No,

(49:45):
but no, what do they do. They turned local elections
into something that shouldn't have been, Like the Mindani race,
they made it something that shouldn't have been. Why are
they celebrating a Democrat winning New York?

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah over another Democrat, Cuomo over Clomo Culomo. That's what
I want. Like, so they said, oh, this is the
this is the formula for democrats, like far left democrats
going forward. I'm like, what's the formula to run against
the disgrace, the old pervert that tried to genocide old people. Yeah,
that's the formula.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
That's their They go, this is the winning message reco
and I go, yeah, man, and that's why all the
Republican farmers have endorsed that Ramaswami for governor.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah. Well, well, that's the thing is it's not necessarily
like can Vivek go out and plow seat. No, of
course he's not going to. But at the same time,
if you ran somebody from a rural area, they're not
going to know how to how to run an accounting firm.
You don't need someone that knows how to do all
of those things. You need someone that has their skill sets,
knows that's their skill set, and they're willing to sit
down and surround themselves with people who do know how

(50:51):
to do those things. If you're the guy that tries
to whether you're running a company, you're coaching a football team,
or whatever, if you're the guy that tries to solve
all the problems by himself, you're gonna fail. Look at
how Belichick did those years. He didn't have coordinators. They
weren't very good.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
They weren't. No, you're right, one hundred percent right like Democrats,
they have never done anything worthy of being on a
team or winning a championship. I'm so serious. I've talked
to these people I do. I go around and I
talk to the Democrats, and I go, what's the my
little magic trick would love to do if you really
want to get underneath the politician skin, go hey, tell

(51:24):
me about your life, but don't talk about politics. And
watch how they freeze up because it's so hard for
somebody who's a politician to talk about something else that's
not politics.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, like they freeze up.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
They don't know what to say. And every're like, I've
made people want to fight me because I go, you're
talking about politics. I didn't ask you about that. Tell
me about yourself. Yeah, tell me about your character and
that that that that that they can't do that. And
this is why Mike Johnson and Thune and the Senate
are doing what they're doing. They're being the the adults

(52:01):
in the room. There's a book that I know almost
four to backwards called the Paula Mantory Procedure, which is
a book literally written by Thomas Jefferson that is literally
the rule book for the House and Senate. This is
why I keep saying that Democrats are fucked this thing
up to the point where they cannot overcorrect. They have

(52:23):
done such irrehensible damage to the every average, everyday man
that the midterms are going to be a bloodbath for Democrats.
And they go, whoa, how they're running bad candidates, they
don't have message, and they shut the government down. That
three strikes last time I count.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah, well, I don't know if you read today, but
so what they agree. So they're gonna fund the government
through January and then you're gonna get ebt's and SNAP
is gonna be funded through the end of September of
next year. So starting in our October, we're going to
have this debate about food stamps again. October. Yeah, October twenty.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Six, No, sir, try again.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Oh sorry, okay, yeah, you're right. So it's August September
is when that actual debate is going to start.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
No, no, no, no, no, it's gonna thirty first, January thirty first.
So what they're doing with this pill, they're doing something different.
So the CR, the original CR was to November I
want to say, like November twenty first before things given,
that's not gonna happen, so they had to amend it, right,
So now this CR goes to January thirty first. Inside
this Democrats, they get the vote on the ACA subsidies

(53:31):
in December. That's one of the negotiating points that veteran
got for these fucking losers. Not only that, the Mini
Omnimus bills that were passed, so that's like legislating VA
and a couple other fundies. They all taken care of.
For the rest of the year. We're good until January
because then this fight comes back up. And this is
where Trump and the Republicans are going to beat the

(53:53):
Democrats because now you're going to try and shut the
government down before primaries, yeah, or you have to keep
the government open during primaries. Yeah, meaning that that Chuck
shuer fellow up in New York who keeps here in
AOC hounding at his back, go have a big issue,

(54:15):
come nix to your I'll promise you that.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
It feels like they're running out of outrage cards to
play because the Ice thing is kind of settled down
a little bit. You've got the Israel War. I mean,
there's at least progress made on that. I don't think
you can honestly trust either side of that conflict to
honor it, but there's progress on that. It appears there's progress,
albeit slowly, being made in Russia. So it kind of

(54:39):
feels like, I mean, the big thing for Trump and
Republicans is affordability. Are the interest rates going to come down?
Are the price is going to come down? That's what
it is, And that's kind of I mean, I don't
want to say out of the government's control, because it's
really not. They can certainly do things to fuck it up,
but naturally things are going to have to calm down economically,
and I feel like twenty twenty six that's to start

(55:00):
to happen. So yeah, I think they're banking on something
that's not gonna happen. Yep. The Democrats, Yep, they are.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
They're there. Their whole thing is I'm a victim, and boy,
you're running out of reasons to be a victim when
everything's great.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah, it's the victim card, the you know, the trans thing.
They really picked some losing battles for people.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
He did, Yes, seriously, man, Trans people make up less
than one percent of population. Gave people make up less
and one percent of population. Yeah, both of those population
groups are very important to me. They are. But are
they central issues right now? When gases three dollars and
nine cents? Yeah, when we're talking and looking at the
average house from a home, a brand new home of
four hundred thousand dollars, like, like, we can focus on issues.

(55:44):
Democrats don't understand people care about financial issues more than
they do about these identity issues. They think that because
of identity issues carried them in one fucking midterm election,
that is gonna happen in every election. It's not. It's
just not won't happen like that. It won't happen like that.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah, And I think they really overplayed their hand with
the trans card too. I think you know, it went
from the average person like myself. If these people want
to put a dress on and change the do whatever, man,
that's fine. But when you start forcing men into women's
sports and into women's locker rooms and things like that,
and it becomes blatantly clear you're forcing it on kids

(56:22):
in schools, that's when the average guys takes a step back,
goes whoa stop, No, no, this is not what I
signed up for here, you're taking this too far.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Fair. But Democrats also do not know how to look
at other issues. Yeah, whereas Republicans they took their beatings
in the midterms, and honestly, man or they didn't even
like the twenty twenty election was a twenty twenty election.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
It was Yeah, that was extreme.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
But after that they start Republicans made like gains. They
took the House back in the midterms, not by a lot,
but he took it back yep. And then they took
the White House and the cent a bag. Everybody keeps saying, old,
there's a pendulum, I go no, man, every election is
a new election. There are new voters that come along
the giant disconnected with the Democrat Party, and the average

(57:12):
voter is that the elitist in societies are running the
Democrat parties. I can't speak to what happens on the
Republican side, but I keep seeing the Republicans winning every time,
and it really boils down to their candidates if you
present the world with an even headed candidate for them.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Seriously, here's what I've noticed in the Republican Party. And
I'm not I keep full discoing. I've never run for office.
I'm not a member of I am a member of
a party, but I'm not on the board or anything
like that. The top brass of the Republican Party is
far more accepting of someone like me, whom they wouldn't

(57:49):
have been twenty years ago. You know, I call our
little movement over here. We call it the dirt bag, right,
because you know there's the dirtbag left as tattoos and
cursing and stuff like that. I make up that kid
rock wing of the Republican Party. We're not exactly nice.
We don't come from a bunch of money or anything
like that and were, but we're in your face about it, right,
and we'res salt of the earth people. And twenty years ago,

(58:13):
you know, the Mitt Romney Country Country Club, Republicans never
in a million years, they've accepted me. I mean I
was sitting down a couple months ago at a breakfast
talking to the lieutenant governor. Things have changed. The party brass,
the button down. I think they still keep someone like
me at a little bit arm's length, but nowhere near
where it would have been where it's like you, like

(58:35):
you were talking about, like we have to keep these
people who aren't on board away from it. The other
thing I will say that has been very surprising to
me is the gays make the Republican Party tick. They
absolutely do. What's that guy out, Scott Presler, perfect example
of dude, the gayest guy you'll ever see, right handed

(58:56):
Trump Pennsylvania. But the Republican they truly do behind the scenes.
I have never that's what they always talk about, you know,
like the grinder shit spikes when Republican conventions come up.
That's not because these guys are in the closet. There
are a whole bunch of openly like blatant, like obviously gay,
effeminate men behind the scenes that are running these campaigns
for the Republican Party and they have their opinions on

(59:18):
those social issues or whatever, but they fucking hate the
Democrats and they'll run these campaigns. And that's what I've
noticed there is they make a tick. That's the lifeblood
behind the scenes inside baseball. For some of you out
there that didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
They the Republicans are better disciplined. Yes, when it comes
to going out and engaging voters.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Now me being a little social spiniences I go out,
I do. I just I like talking to people, engaging
with them and seeing them talk about politics and out
in the public. So like when Britndan Marino was runninground,
I was running around with them, like I during twenty
twenty four, I was with almost all the campaigns, just
run around. She's learning it and actually running a camp. Yeah,
but like what I kept seeing was voters they would

(01:00:04):
go and talk to people. Yeah, well Democrats wouldn't. They wouldn't.
They would not go talk to people. They assumed that
because Trump was running in that all the people are
going to vote the way they did when Biden was
up in a ballot, And I go, no, they're not.
Biden's down on a ballot no more. Haarris when people
don't like hers because she's just black Hillary, And like
you didn't like Hillary, you definitely not gonna like black Hillary.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
That's yeah. That's another big thing to me was it
seems like there's a real disconnect in perspective, Like we
all understand people have different beliefs than us, but we
don't we can't understand that people have different perspective, that
they view it from a different angle. And that's why
when you saw people like all these people making severing
ties after the election back last November, because in their mind,

(01:00:50):
Donald Trump was a fascist Nazi and anyone who voted
for him must have been won by extension. But what
they don't realize is those people that voted for him
don't see him as the fascist nazi that you do.
And that's why they voted for him. They didn't vote
for him to hurt you. They vote for him because
they look at things from the They look at things
from a different perspective. Like I didn't vote for Kamala Harris.
I thought her economic policies were bad and I thought

(01:01:12):
that her foreign policy was antagonistic with Russia. With that said,
I don't think that you went out and voted for
Kamala Harris because you just wanted to blow the world up,
you know what I mean? That's right. It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I didn't. I don't hate Trump like I don't hate Trump, right,
but I thought he was too volatile to be president.
Now that he's president, I go, he's president. Yeah, Hey,
I don't hate the man. I don't hate him. And
it never like like heres. I did not like her.
I never never liked her at the moment. You were
one of the first people say, hey, man, how do

(01:01:45):
you feel about her? Other girl, I don't like this lady.
I don't. I didn't never have. But me being a
dude that I am, I was written political. She should win,
she should win. But you know what I learned that
night is I learned that elections matter, but what matters
more is the candidate quallity and content like you cannot

(01:02:07):
andyer gonna be JD Vans, Like I know, this is
twenty twenty eight. This is what's gonna really shake up.
It gonna be JD Vans versus Andy Bashard.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
You don't think it'll be Newsome?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
No, he too, he too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
He's a slamme ball.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
No, I got a new term for you. He's what
we call a wok acrat. Yeah, like he's a wok
acrat and people don't want that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I think Democrat and honestly, I think Newsom stands for
less than nothing. I think if Newsom lived in Arkansas,
he'd be the most far right maga guy you've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
I think he's in it for himself. I do. I
really think he's in it for himself. But I also
think so it was like Bertie Sanders, aoc, Chuck Schumer.
There's a lot of people in it for themselves. But
when I when I look at Andy Bashird, I met
this man. I sat down and talked to him, and
he's another person that was like, you should really get
into politics. We go, so I have, and you pursued

(01:03:00):
and Mike the Wine we're at UC doing this whole
presentation about working across party lines. Yeah, and at the
end of it, I went up and they're like, hey,
Rico's that you won't come over and talk to him.
So I sat there and talked for like five minutes
and he was liked definitely being politics. What's the problem,
I go, Yeah, the partisans in politics. That's truly the

(01:03:22):
problem in politics is that you have someone that can
be so nice, so kind, so kind and in compassion
and comparing be super educating, all these great things, and
Democrats go, yeah, that's great, you're all these things, but
you don't I don't know who you are because you
don't have any likes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
It's a litmus test.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, and this is yeah, this is the state of
the Democrat Party.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
How you can get There have been cracks in that
foundation for a while. I remember I first started to
see him in twenty seventeen, because that was twenty seventeen.
If you think back, everyone said the Republicans had a
purity test on different issues like that, and maybe they
did do a degree. But we had a really tightly
contested merrial race in Omaha, which is actually more Democrats
than Republicans, is people don't realize. And our incumbent, Jean Stouthard,

(01:04:09):
she was a Republican and she ran against a guy
who was a state senator named Heath Mellow, who was
a Democrat. Heath Mellow actually stood a really good chance
at beating her. With the early poll numbers. People were
upset about some project myself included, were upset about some
projects she was pushing that were rather unpopular. And then
it came out that Heath Mellow, despite being a Democrat,

(01:04:32):
on most other issues, was pro life, and immediately all
of the national Democrats, even though by the way, the
mayor has no say in abortion right has nothing to
do with the all of the national Democrat movements pulled
their money and support away from him overnight, left out
to dry. He got killed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
That that thing right there, you said it right there.
It's the money, yep. Democrats they have bookoos amount of right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yeah, but like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Joe Biden, right when Joe Biden beat Donald Trump, I
don't know, and I'm gonna say that because nobody ever will.
Because Democrats decided to pull their money away from him. No,
not just him, but all other Democrats, the George Clooney's

(01:05:24):
and all them. They decided to go, we don't get Harris,
We're not gonna give you any money. And that's why
Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
You know, down That's actually a really good point because Biden,
his lowest moment was probably gonna be that debate. That
was he he hit his bottom in what may or
June yep, and people knew who Biden was. What Biden
was gonna do was do the exact same strategy he
did in twenty twenty, which was shut up and give

(01:05:52):
Trump the rope to hang himself. Well, when he dropped out,
you have Kamala Harris, who people really don't know when
they're unsure of, so they had to try and go
out sell her to people in a short period of time.
And the more she got exposed to the media, the
more people realize just how unlikable she was, and that
crippled her. You got a point. I don't know if
Biden would have beat Trump, but I do agree that

(01:06:12):
he would have had a better chance.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
He would add a damn you know why, because like
that joke I always say about Hitler, Hitler is the
most bravest man on earth because he was the one
who killed Hitler. Like it, Joe Biden was the only
motherfucker on this planet to beat Donald Trump in an election.
And yet you pull him, that's like pulling Tom Brady
when he's twenty eight three to put in Jimmy fucking Garoppolo.

(01:06:34):
Everybody know what the fuck Jimmy Garoppolo is and everybody
knows that bump sucks. Yes, but yes, that's what the
Democrats did. They went with Jimmy Garoppolo, and I go, wait,
Jimmy Garoppola, he never won shit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Yeah, you're putting tap pulling him out of Scott Frost
just did that with UCF took his starter out and
threw a pick on the last drive of the game. Good,
good times. Glad, that's not our problem anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
So much money made me so much money, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
If he's it out all right? Man? It was good
anywhere people can find you or donate money or what.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
No, you just see me like I'm running an old
school fashion campaign just like Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
There you go, hopefully it ends better for you. Ah,
seelader man, Thanks, I appreciate you, all right. That was
Rico Saint Cloud. He's running as a Democrat in Ohio
for lieutenant governor out there, and he's doing it the
old schoolway. The guys is saying, we don't agree on everything,
we're not members of the same party. But people who
don't agree can come together and have a conversation. You

(01:07:32):
see how that works. You see we can still be civil.
You see nobody called anybody a fascist or a communist
or shot each other. Isn't it crazy how that works?
No one claimed to be uh the Messiah, no one
did any of that. Crazy how that works? I still
think Kisha. I told him in private conversation, I think

(01:07:52):
he should run as a Republican, as a populist Republicans.
That's become the more big tent party. The Democrats, clearly,
you have the peer tests where you have to check
every single box on every single issue, or they're not
going to support you. In fact, some of them might
just outright ostracize you publicly. Whereas the Republicans look at
the coalition Trump's built. You've got Donald Trump, of course,
but underneath him you've got JD. Vance, You've got Ron

(01:08:15):
Paul Elon Musk, You've got Robert F. Kennedy, Junior Tulci, Gabberts,
You've got Republicans, Independence, Libertarians, Democrats all over the map.
Donald Trump has built this coalition. I think if you're
out there listening to this and you're someone who's on
the center left, and you're thinking, you know, if you're
just an average voter, stay independent, who gives a shit, right,
But if you're thinking, I want to get involved in politics.

(01:08:37):
I lean to the left on social issues. I'm in
the middle on fiscal in foreign policy issues, but I
just feel homeless. But I'd like to get into politics.
I think you should be a Republican. And I'm not
saying that because I'm a Republican. I'm saying that because
that's the only party where you have any chance at
having some type of ascension beyond very very local levels.

(01:09:00):
That would be my recommendation to you. That's what I
would tell you, guys to do. But don't listen to me.
I'm just some fool with a microphone in front of him.
I'm just a radio blowhard. You know how it goes, right,
you know how it goes. We're we tease something on Facebook,
I might as well talk about it here. We teased
something on Facebook about a week ago. Where I am looking.

(01:09:24):
Because I'm always I try to be honest with you guys,
I am looking at running, not joking around this time.
I'm looking at making a serious run or Douglas County
Treasurer here in Nebraska as a Republican. As of right now,
you've got two Democrats and no Republicans. The Democrat who's
likely going to win is Tony Vargas, who ran against

(01:09:48):
Don Bacon a couple of election cycles in a row
for Congress and any two lost both of them. He's
looking to just kind of stroll into this cushy, six
figure position as Douglas County Treasurer. I am not one
to let that go unchallenged. However, here's my setback on this.
If I'm going to do something, I'm not going to

(01:10:11):
do it unless I have a legitimate chance at winning.
I've talked to a couple people, and I've been told, hey,
you're gonna need at least one hundred thousand dollars to
stand a fighting chance. Now I don't have one hundred
thousand dollars. I can just blow. I can't. I can't.
My wife would be very very upset with me if

(01:10:33):
I if I was doing something like that, So I don't.
I can't just dump one hundred thousand dollars of my
personal money into a self funded campaign. So I'm gonna
be talking to some people. I'm gonna see if there's
some type of financial backing we can get. I guess
you could call it an exploratory committee we formed. We're

(01:10:54):
certainly looking into running. But that that's the thing is
what you guys have to realize is if I run,
I'm going to do it to win. I'm not just
going to do it to make it so that he
doesn't go unchallenged because that's my thing. He's running for
office like that, and Tony Vargas embodies the Democrat machine
quite well here in Nebraska. When you go up against

(01:11:17):
the machine, they're going to throw out all the stops
at you. They're going to dig up every aspect of
my life, past, present, and future, and they're going to
throw it in everybody's face. They're going to come after
my family, They're going to come after my wife. That's
how this works. I'm not going to put all of
those but you can do whatever you want with me.
I'm a public figure. I'm not going to put all

(01:11:39):
of those people in that type of situation for something
I cannot win. So we're going to have to do
some research into it. We're going to have to look
at how many Republicans versus Democrats are in the county
as a whole, how much can or how likely are
we to reach them? All that good stuff. Fortunately, I've
got a lot of connections, so we uh, We're going

(01:11:59):
to take seriously though this. So we do have an
exploratory committee formed right now. The committee is not very big,
but we're calling it that to make it sound official,
and hopefully we'll have an announcement by a decision I
should say by early next year. That's the goal. We
got a little bit of time to think about it
and see what the appetite is. The other problem, and

(01:12:21):
I'll be totally transparent with you guys. The other problem
that we're going to run into here is I think
the money's there. The money's there, We can get the money.
The question is do they want to give it to me?
Do they want to give it to a candidate that,
like Rico was saying about, Trump, is maybe a little

(01:12:43):
bit more volatile, hasn't run a single election before, has
some baggage to him, and I do you guys have
heard ninety percent of my baggage on the air if
you've been listening, and hasn't proven himself to be a
you know, a winner in electoral politics. It's and I
would totally understand those setbacks. I think my advantage, though,

(01:13:06):
like we were talking about, is politics specifically from the
millennials and gen z and politics are overrun with theater kids.
I think that's a big issue, is that theater kids
have taken over the political scene in this country. And
I'm not that I'm a lot of things, but I'm
not a theater kid. I'd never acted in a play.
I'll sit down and I'll talk to you like a

(01:13:26):
human being and we'll have a conversation and it'll be raw,
and I might come off as rough around the edges,
but you're gonna leave that conversation saying that guy didn't
rehearse shit. Maybe to a fault. But so yeah, so
we're looking into it. I don't know what's gonna happen.
I don't know. I wish I had more I could

(01:13:47):
tell you, but we did tease it, and I wanted
to give you guys an update as to where that
would go. The show would go nowhere. If we did win,
I would sit in the Treasurer's office and do a
daily episode of that space, you know, because I'd be
a government employee who didn't have anything better to do.
Right anyway, that's been our show. Like I said, you'll

(01:14:07):
get you'll get an update on what my decision is
early next year. Early next year. That's been our show.
We will see you guys on Saturday for the big show.
We're gonna talk. Hopefully this shutdown will be over by then.
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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