November 13, 2025 ｜ Hosts: Maya & Rick Wilson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Welcome to the breakdown.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I thought you had something that you want to worry.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Right before we went live, I was like, oh, I
know what I want to talk about when we when
we start, don't worry. I wanted to talk about. Have
you guys seen south Park from this week?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh I haven't. I was like, no spoilers, join me,
everyone who hasn't seen it, And.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, all I'm going to say is that usually, for
like a cold open, before we roll the theme song,
I if there was a relevant pop culture moment from
the week, I'll just roll that first. And I cannot
roll the moment that I want to roll. Oh no,
you can't, which is we would be demonetized immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yes, you cannot, and if you could, it would involve Tweezers.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
This sounds titillating.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
You could say that, you.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Know, south Park is now almost been around almost thirty
years now, Kate, since before you're since since you were
a toddler.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Actually south Park and I are the same age.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh that's right, that's right. But that I the idea
that south Park is has ever faded away in the culture.
It always comes back. And this year, this year it
is the brutality of it is so good, and the
and the understanding of how brutal they're being is so good.

(01:46):
Jd Vance has tattoo.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I also like they do such a good job with
like the meta and self aware stuff. Like the whole
episode last week was about how like South Park sucks.
Now that's self war Like, I know it's gotten too political,
but what else do you want us to do? Yeah,
well to let's let's get into it. I first want
to give a little shout out to Rick's guest appearance

(02:14):
on Today's I've Had It pod.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
So fun, so fun they are, They are amazing, And
I I gotta tell you that I'm a guest on
a lot of podcast folks. I'm a hosting a guest
on a lot of podcasts. Top notch Over the Moon
couldn't be.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Really imaginate in Heaven. I had so much fun listening
to it, and is someone who has to listen to
you talk like quite a bit? It was, it was
like really great. If you love Rick content.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, if you like Rick content, you will.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like uh, genuine Rick content.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, genuine Rick content as opposed to my AI doppelganger. Folks.
There's a YouTube channel now called Liberal America it is
very convincing. It looks it's a lot like me, it's
not me. There are two giveaways in that I have
perfect teeth, Sorry mom, I didn't wear my fucking retainer,
and then my ears are cut off at the top

(03:11):
they look like like little stubs. But other than that's
the AI video and the audio is pretty convincing.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's sat.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's a little it's a little unnerving because once I
did see it, I was like, I think I've actually
seen one of these videos previously, and I remember thinking,
this feels a little off from what I'm used to
seeing Rick do. But maybe he's trying out a new style.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
No, no, it's a style called some asshole with eleven
Labs for the voice and Sora for the video and
chat GPT for.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
The text to send it to you.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Oh, they're they're putting out a video like every six hours,
and then the last week I've had like a million
and a half us.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I see me in backstage like nodding like like she
wants to kill whoever's behind.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Oh oh oh, yes, our lawyers are moving in for
the kill. Uh. YouTube is not exactly like Johnny on
the Spot of fixing it, so we're we're having a.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Lawyer up well.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
And that's what's crazy is because you know, all of
these apps now you can have the option to deep
fake yourself, but the minute you give your image away,
it feels like it's in this you know, sort of
precarious territory. But now I'm like, if somebody else is
deep faking you, I'm like, should we all be deep
faking ourselves?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Like?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
What?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
The world we're in.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's part of the problem, guys, is it's like it's like,
I'm on so many interviews and I've done so many
podcasts and on so many TV hits. There are plenty
of samples of my voice and my image out there.
God knows why people want to want to want to
cut and pace me. But here we are. But it's wrong,

(04:57):
it's unethical. It's going to keep happening. And you know,
sometimes it's hilarious, mostly not so much.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
We have enough, We have enough real hilarious footage of
you that I don't have to fake it.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
All that being said, let's get into the headlines this week.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Including me wearing an a Lincoln hat. What, oh yeah,
I be wearing.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
An a linking hat from twenty twenty. I'll pull I'll
find that after I hop out of here and get
you guys. Don't worry, I'll find it.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Speaking of of Lincoln and well and also the penny,
the pennies, the.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Penny more your week for Yeah, we're going to pace
it with a crypto token, don Junior coin.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
And that is the most important thing that's happened this week.
Nothing else made no pretty quieter than that. We just
have one here to hang out.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Can't we just live in that bubble for just a second.
I want to live in the bubble that my apolitical
friends live in, where like that is the only thing
that happened, Like, oh my god, they don't have the
penny anymore. Like I desperately want to figure out how
to neutralize whatever it is in my brain that makes
me care, Like that thing that makes me give a shit.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's called brown liquor, brown licker. You won't give a shit,
give me.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
The this is just water.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Unfortunately, all right, time shut down that I shut down.
That was the one ste down.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I shall call it one out for the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
So, on the forty first day of a record long
government shutdown, the US Senate voted sixty to forty to
approve a continuing resolution to reopen the government. The measure
will fund much of the government through January thirtieth and
provide funding for some agencies through the end of next September.
There have been a wide range of takes on the

(07:01):
Democrats chickening out on this, But to start Rick, I'm
gonna quote you back to yourself, if that's all right.
This is an excerpt from one of rick subsdoc posts
this week. A shutdown that was leading the Maga GOP
dry will end because the Hateful Eight were suckers who
made Neville Chamberlain look like Genghis Khan. The Republicans cannot
believe their luck. They get to end the shutdown, blame

(07:23):
it on Democrats, and go back to the mega base
and say we killed Obamacare at last. So did we
win the shutdown?

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Guys, we did not. We did not. It was not there.
It's it. Look, every centrifuge remaining under the Iranian nuclear
lab could not spin this into a wedge. There is
no amount of mayonnaise in the universe that can turn
this chicken shit into chicken salad. It doesn't, It doesn't exist.

(07:53):
They blew it. They got talked into this by John Thune,
and a bunch of a bunch of people were like, well,
what America is really crying out for now? It's compromised
with Donald Trump. Actually, the twenty one public surveys that
had happened since the beginning of the shutdown all showed
that Trump and MAGA were taking all of the blame,
every bit of it. Not a single poll said the

(08:15):
Democrats were to blame for the shutdown, not one more.
These eight window lickors just went, Okay, I know you
shut it down.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I tried desperately to understand what the motivation might be.
And for these eight folks, in an attempt to give
them the benefit of the doubt, I like to think
that they do suffer from that failure of imagination, that
they don't understand exactly how bad it is that there
are people whose premiums are going to go so high

(08:52):
that they are not going to be able to afford
healthcare correct, and they seem to be holding out from
for some sort of this idea that, oh, well, the
Republicans won't let that actually happen.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
So well, have you met Russell Vought.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
And and so, and I don't want to call it
an innocence or a naivety or stupidity or anything like that,
but a failure to understand how evil and cruel people
can be. And and and I think that might.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Be the case in a few of these people's Uh
but I it's so frustrating because we were really getting
to the point where people are starting to pay attention
they were and now and.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I mean, and one of the things I've been thinking
about a lot about this is it wasn't just the
political hit that Republicans were taking that was making me
happy about this. What I was what I was What
I was, I don't mean happy in the way of like, oh,
what a great thing for us to shut down the government.

(10:01):
That's awesome. I was happy because people were now seeing
what the stakes really were. They were starting to understand
that you could that shutting off food stamps and snap
was gonna was gonna start fifteen million children out of
forty four million families. All these things were adding up
into a way that it was unspinnable. Like the bad

(10:22):
guys weren't able to go, oh no, we're just doing
this to end up to like Doge, like wasting corruption
that wasn't what it was, and I was I was
gratified that people were starting to get how evil the
underlying governing principles of the Trump administration really are. And

(10:46):
now we're back to the situation where you know, if
you pay the blackmail or you know what the blackmailer does,
he wants more blackmail. So we're gonna end up with,
you know, the same drama again in January. And at
that point the rates for next year for people's health
insurance will be set m They will pay those rates.

(11:08):
They will not get There's not gonna be some break
or some some some fix to this because Republicans will
never vote to fix Obamacare. It is a it is
a sacrament for them that Obamacare is the worst possible
thing in the history of mankind. And so they're going
to take their own people who have been screwed, their

(11:29):
own people who've been harmed by this and say, yep,
too bad. Blame the Democrats. It is it was. It
was political malpractice of the highest order.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well also, it was the first time the Democrats really
had Republicans on the defensive in a very strong way.
And so with the Epstein files at least at that point.
Being in the background of things, this was something that
the Democrats could just be on the offensive on and say, hey,
we are trying to fight the fighter that you wanted,

(12:01):
the fight that you were asking for us to do.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
We want us to fight where you know you wanted
us to fight, and we're here and we're in it,
and they were dating. They were getting enormous political credibility
out of this matter. They were winning the battle and
just walking away from it. It just blows my mind.
Maya that that that that somebody said to them, well,

(12:25):
you know, the thing America is crying out for is
for you to say, yeah, Trump is right. The shutdown
that he caused is as our fault. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, and unfortunately, obviously it wasn't all the Democrats that folded,
but similar to marginalized groups, if eight Democrats do something bad,
the entire Democratic Party takes the blame and so everybody
is now, uh, they like, these eight screwed it up
for the rest of the of the party, and yeah,
so going forward, we need to yes, hik no.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
You're doing I was I was just going to ask
you to talk a little bit more about Chuck Schumer.
Because Schumer notably did not vote for the cr but
he didn't seem to do anything to stop it. What
do you make of that.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Poor leadership? Obviously, No, I.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Think it's worse than that. Guys. There are two scenarios
that obtain here. Either Chuck Schumer knew what was going
on with his own caucus and let it or wanted
it to happen, which I believe is the actual case
at hand, or he didn't know, and he's an absolute
flaming incompetent for not knowing that his that his caucus

(13:42):
is about to do something so politically destructive that that
you know he's Is he that disconnected? Is he that
checked out? It's not a good look either way.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah. And I think with the fact that the eight
who did vote for it, I think they all had
their reasonings, but that means that Chuck Schumer wasn't able
to corral them to be able to say, hey, this
is how it hurts the party. It just doesn't like
I understand. I truly truly do understand. If they're in

(14:15):
a state right like in Nevada, for example, where the
economy is already suffering due to a lot of Trump's
policies around visas and around every tariffs, all of that
stuff is affecting Nevada. So I can understand why those
two senators would would vote for it. But the fact

(14:36):
that Chuck Schumer couldn't get people to see the big picture,
if that's what, if he himself can even see the
big picture, and I think I don't think.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I don't think he at this point in his career,
has that ability to understand the world he actually fights in. Now,
remember this is this is Chuck Schumer of the sternly
worded letter and sternly worded letters convey it's zero people,
and and sternly worded letters convince zero voters that you

(15:06):
are that you're going to fight for them.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Not not not a moment in which the Democratic Caucus
is covered in glory. But you know, at least at
least what they got out of it was vastly increased
healthcare costs for most Americans. It's great, it's really.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
And also and also things that were tucked into the
bill last minute that oh.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, like the like the special payoffs for the Republican senators.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Who weren't it all involved in January sixth, because that
wasn't even a thing.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Special payoffs for those of our audience and maybe producers.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Oh yes, I'm sorry, who are not who? The bill
nicely done, Kate. The bill contains a half million dollar payoffs,
actually million dollar paffs for seven US senators in the
Republican Party whose names came up during the Jack Smith investigation.
And Jack Smith subpoenaed a bunch of phone records, and

(16:08):
and they're very angry that somebody would dare to think
that they were involved in January sixth, mainly because they
were involved in January sixth, they were communicating with Trump,
Bannon and the rest of the scummy cavalcade of riirdo
dipshit conspirators. And they're mad about it. So they put

(16:28):
a special payoff for themselves because they didn't like to
be inconvenience with the all those all those complications like
following the fucking law.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, that sucks, and.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
It also affects maybe more to your generation hemp products and.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Oh yes, advance THHC and hemp products.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Bummer bummers of freshman year of college.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Me, yeah about that bummer two pre nineteen eighty five?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Me, I was like, yes, two or what I want
to ask one more question about the shutdown fight. So
like the sort of devil's advocate position, and Rick you've
always said, you know, pain is the only teacher in politics.
It's sort of evil to frame it as a win.
But just for argument's sake, is it a win on

(17:18):
any level that when these premiums go up?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yes, people will tell you right now. I'll tell you
right now, it is a win on a on a
certain level that that the Republicans are the singular cause
of this. There's no world in which there's any other
factor that that, you know, no one is ever going

(17:43):
to believe the Democrats are like, yeah, you know what,
I really want us to cut off healthcare for poor people.
No one's ever buying that they will. They will not.
By the way, just so the Democrats are understand, understand
this point. They will not get any credit for a
show vote on the floor of the of the Senate
about health care. They will possibly get some credit on

(18:12):
on having this fight in the spring or summer of
next year. Although it's it's still not this it still
would have been better to do it the right way,
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, I would like to have you know, rock bottom
people need to hit rock bottom in many ways in
order an experienced crisis to be able to realize how
dire things are. And so those of us who are
constantly following these things, we know how dire it is.
But some people haven't opened their mail yet to see
what their premiums are going to be. And that's just

(18:47):
that's just reality. And so when I think the combination
of medical debts showing up on records, not having access
to healthcare, grocery prices still being high, we're going to see,
I think, and I think mortgage rates are ticking up,
we're going to see come January February. Also, right fresh
off the holiday season, when people are having to dole

(19:10):
out cash on presents for the kids and family members.
I think around January February, including don't forget all of
the layoffs that have been happening now.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Can we know about them anymore? Because they don't report
economic statistics.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yes, well, because that that was on a server, that
or something that got me shut down.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Fact those stats are are are libtard kamie agit prop.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I think the upside is that everybody was in fact
blaming the Republicans. They're still in charge. They're still running
all three branches of the government. And so when people
start to truly suffer come January and February, people are
going to say, wait a second, and that's when they're
all going to look up. And then then people will
be full of rage. I think there's it's going to

(19:57):
be a very rage full oh.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
I think I think this look. Home for closures are
up twenty percent in the last month. Credit card bills
are at record levels. That's not the economy Donald Trump
keeps describing to people. He keeps saying, everything is beautiful,
it's awesome. Never we've never had a better economy. And
you know, there's always been like a bullshit factor with

(20:21):
Trump or people like, yeah, it's just Trump Trump. But
there's also a point now where there's a certain cruelty
to that bullshit factor, where people really know they're not
in a great place. They're not economically healthy, they're not
in a world where where their kids are going to
go to college. And I think that is a very
dangerous place now for Trump because there's a degree to

(20:43):
which the old latitude he got in that space is
now disappearing.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
And he doesn't understand that because he's talking about going
out on an affordability tour and try to bring this
message to the people.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
So Jeffrey Epstein going on a school safety tour for
God's sake, Yeah, I think I.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Think that that Maybe it'll bring us into the fun
part of the episode. Let's start talking about the wins
of the day, if you can call it that, all right,
And that is the House Oversight Committee releasing new emails
on Wednesday this week from the estate of disgraced pedophile
Jeffrey Epstein, detailing what Trump knew about Epstein's abuses of

(21:31):
young women and alluding to his presence and proximity to
these crimes as they were being committed.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
These things, why, I really wasn't spending much time on
that this week. But I'm kidding, folks. Look, these things
are a knife that Jeffrey Epstein is stabbed Donald Trump
in the dick with from beyond the grave.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Hell yeah, do you want to get into the emails.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Let's do it. Let's show some of the emails we
have on the in the in the in the limited
number of the collection that we have, there are so
many more, folks, and it is horrifying and glorious at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
All right, So this email from Jeffrey Epstein to Galaine
in April of twenty eleven. I want you to realize
that the dog, that dog that hasn't barked is Trump
victim reducted. Spent hours at my house with him. He
has never once been mentioned police, chep et cetera. I'm
seventy five percent there, Galaine replies, I have been thinking

(22:33):
about that dot dot dot, your panel, your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Look, all these emails are showing us one big thing.
It's one big message in all this, and that is
any denial that Trump and Epstein were entangled for decades
falls apart completely, even with this one tranch of emails.
And folks, let's be clear about something. This is one

(23:03):
You're on the Titanic tonight, okay, and you're on the
bridge of the Titanic, and far far far on the
horizon you see a little, tiny, glittering white point of light.
Could be a star, could be a cloud, could be
a bird. But as you get closer you realize it's
still pretty far away. But it's the tip of an iceberg.
And if you get closer, you'll see it's a mountain

(23:24):
of ice. And if you get closer. Still, the part
that's underwater is one hundred times larger, and it completely
recks your ship. This is that trench of emails, that
little tiny piece. This is almost nothing in comparison. This
is almost nothing in the big picture. The things that
are still hidden away in the in the files at

(23:45):
the DOJ and in these other prosecutions, including the one
that they canceled in the beginning of the Trump administration.
That's where the radioactive sick poison is. And there's a
reason they put thousand FBI agents on this to go
through the files because they know how much he's in them.
It's going to get much worse from here, and they're

(24:08):
panicking about it. As you can see, Maya the shit
show this week with them calling people into the White House,
into the skiff in the situation.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Where I'm like, change your vote, Well, I mean to
be fair, It was a situation so that is that
it was Okay, you got.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Me, you want to let's do another email? Well Rick,
he back go. So this is from December of twenty seventeen,
from what we presume is a victim to Jeffrey Epstein.
I'm out the door, but I will wait for my time.
I don't want to come early to find Trump in

(24:47):
your house to crying laughing emojis. This is my favorite
because I saw someone on Twitter say that not only
does this prove that Trump is a pedophile, it proves
that he's there like their least favorite of all the pedophiles.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Right right, of the pedophiles in the room, which one
do you like the least kid? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I know.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
It really does have a very like like bad touch,
Donald is coming over by.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I mean, this is the thing like this, These emails
go back so far, which means many people are aware
of how the rabbit hole goes, and now there's no
denying it. And I think what people are screaming for
right now is can we please put this to bed,

(25:41):
put it to rest, sign the accountability so that we
can move on from it. And I think that's part
of it. I said. I was like, they're not going
to open up the government until they can figure out
what to do with the Epstein files, and that.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
The problem is Grijalva is now signed signed in and
she's the two eighteenth and they have not had any success,
which I think is interesting in peeling off Nancy Mace
or Lauren Bobert or MTG or anybody.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Else, which I still find that so suspicious.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
It makes me very nervous that, Oh, believe me, I'm
not I'm not ready to take long showers with these
people or go to or go to local community theater
productions of Beetlejuice with them.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
But that's good. That was good. It was good.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
It took me a minute to go back in the
midal room. I was like, oh, yes, Albert, yeah, I
got it. Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, but you know, as long as they're currently on
the side of right, I'll take them causing him more
trouble than us.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, I mean it does. It feels like he's worn
out his welcome, he's done what people need him to do,
and no one's willing to come to his defense anymore
because he's become an embarrassment, not just for himself but
for everybody around him. Like how many times can they
sit in the oval and and nod and smile when

(27:05):
he randomly says things that make no sense whatsoever, Like
it's demoralizing even for them. So I could see that
this is gonna but it also feels like, really, is
this it finally, finally, will we get this release next
week they get.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Vance Gerald Ford? Is the question you're you're trying to ask,
you know, That's That's really where it comes down to.
Is is Vance Jerry Ford just waiting for Watergate to
fucking suck him under? And and I think there's an
argument to be made increasingly that he is. I write

(27:42):
a note of that down just now because I'm gonna
write an article.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's good subscribe to Rick substack.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Against all enemies on substack.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I want to show one more email. This is me
over there. This is an email for twenty nineteen. This
is like Trump is the president at this time. So
victim reducted mar a Lago. More context about that reducted
Trump said, he asked me to resign, never a member ever,

(28:15):
inferen Ago. Of course he knew about the girls, as
he asked Glene to stop.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
So do I think I think is not a strong
enough word.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I think that is a singularly damning statement. And it's
singularly damning because Donald Trump didn't say to Jeffrey Epstein,
stop recruiting underage girls and women and children for your
sex slavering. He said stop doing it at mar A Lago.

(28:53):
It wasn't for Trump. It wasn't about these girls, these victims.
It was about that they were doing it at mar
A Lago, which I just find like, I find that
to be so heinous at a level, that is like
he knew what he was doing this, This was never

(29:13):
a secret what Trump was doing.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
And the fact that he got into office campaigning on
this idea that they are going to protect women and children.
Everything that they do, the demonizing, it's about the people,
it's about protecting the children. And here are people who
were children when they were victimized, asking for justice. And
suddenly the people who were holding up though we've got

(29:38):
the Epstein files and these binders, Suddenly the administration that
was all about transparency no longer wants to release the
files and is fighting tooth and nail to keep from
policing the files, as you always do when there's nothing
in the files.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Right as one does. You know, once once there's once,
there's a once there's a that there's nothing in the files,
there's no further excuse for hiding them. And yet there
this is a total government effort by the entire government
to hide these files. Every level of government right now

(30:15):
is working to hide the Epstein files from the from
the Attorney General to the FBI director, to the deputy
FBI director, to the deputy to the Deputy Attorney General
Todd Blanche, everywhere. They are covering for Trump to hide
these files everywhere. And I find it obscene and I

(30:35):
think it is one of these things that we know
from the polling. Even in the MAGA world, there is
a deep division. There is a deep chasm between Trump's
denial and the fact that MAGA believed in this for
a decade. They thought this was absolute gospel for a decade.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well yeah, and now they're playing in people's faces. And
the amount of resources. I'm not an economistic but can
we even try to calculate the amount of resources that
have been spent by this administration in this cover up?
This is like, it feels like it's got to be
a billion dollar cover up at this point.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Look, I can't do that math either off the top
of my head, but I will say this, Nothing in
our history, in the modern era or that I can
think of, and I'm a decent historian, comes close to this.
This is a full effort of the government. Watergate was

(31:33):
a bunch of amateur dipshits. You know, they did not
have the Attorney General during Watergate running the FBI and
the rest of the government to try to protect Nixon. Yes,
there was some of that, but it wasn't at the
scale that we're looking at now. The scale we're looking
at now is an obscenity. I mean, the Dojason does

(31:55):
two things now, covers up for Epstein and prosecutes Trump's enemies.
This is not a government.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It's our tax dollars.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
It's a crime family that we're paying for.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
The lack of investment in our actual growth of our
economy is a little bit insane, like people should be angry,
Like I feel like people should be believed.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Well, look, look when Trump's approval rating with Republicans is
right now down to sixty one percent, that says a lot.
Because he's held at eighty ninety ninety five percent over
his overtime. Right now, he has finally lost Republicans. He's
been lying to them about the economy and about tariffs
for months. These this idea that he is going to

(32:39):
give them a stimulus check for the tariffs from where
from what fucking money? It doesn't exist. There is no
stimulus check to be had. All of this adds up
to this, like this, like betrayal of his own people.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
No, absolutely, I'm sure some of them are still holding
out for that five thousand dollars doze.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Oh yeah, I forgot about the dose checks. Shit, damn,
I forgot all about the the elon must doze checks.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
When it comes to his basse. Have you guys been
keeping track of the sort of cope out of right
wing media? Namely I wish i'd pulled this clip, come
to think of it, But do you see Megan Kelly
try to defend this today, Oh my god, Kelly like, well, you.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Know, maybe Epstein wasn't a pedophile, he just liked somewhat
underage girls, right, like.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I'm barely legal fifteen is what she said.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Let me just make let me just
make it very clear. If you are sex trafficking a
fifteen year old, you're still fucking sex trafficking. You're still
a pedotile, still a child.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's still a child.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yes, like Megan, Megan, Megan seems to me to be
mentally brittle right now.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I will say nothing on that, but.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yes, she seems to me like a woman if I if,
I'm a IF, I may use the title from a
favorite eighties Pedro Almodovar movie, A Woman on the Verge
of a nervous breakdown. I just I just threw it
all right there, eighties trivia, Spanish trivia Antonio Banders's first

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big movie.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Oh I didn't.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I'm too young to know. All these references now are
way too young, Kate, I can.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Poke you out of this screen. I will just push.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
So to to the point of like this iceberg. I
just want to say, is a procedural matter for people
who don't follow this as crazy as we do, and
also because it can be very confusing. And I had
to ask in one of our work chats today like
am I dumb? Can someone explain this to me? Well,
we got today from yesterday from the House Oversight Committee.

(34:55):
Those are emails that were subpoened from the Epstein estate.
Those are not the Epstein files. The files are what
the DOJ has from their sealed That is what has
to be voted on now now that the government has
been reopened. This week, Mike Johnson finally swore in Adowita

(35:16):
Grijalva after benching her for seven weeks to try and
avoid this vote. She's the two hunred eighteenth vote needed
to pass a discharge petition for the DOJ's trove of
Epstein information the files. But that has to then make
it through the Senate and then finally to Trump's desk,
Ding ding Ding, who can veto it? So ahead of

(35:38):
there he will. They're doing everything that they can out
of like the White House, out of Trump world, to
get these votes to not happen so that he won't
have to veto it.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
That's right. This this tells you their level of panic.
And again, folks, they pulled Bobert and MTG into the
White House to the situation room where no one can
bring a telephone. That's why they did it, so nobody
can record the conversation or or or or in any

(36:10):
way hold them to account. That's why they did it.
That's why they were in that room. And that's why
this entire idea that that they're gonna browbeat two members
of Congress into chain taking their names off the discharge
petition was so wild to me because it wasn't gonna work.

(36:32):
Both of those people have their own outside agenda for
the future. Maybe kooky, you may not like it. But
they have one, and and I think it was a
really counterproductive thing to do. I think it was really dumb. Yeah, y'all,

(36:53):
I gotta say this about Jeffrey Epstein. Everybody should think that,
I think about this in their life. At some point
point in your life, you've probably known somebody who's done
something bad. You might have known about it, you might
not have. When you read these emails, you understand that
Donald Trump was around Jeffrey Epstein the entire time he

(37:13):
was doing these bad things from the start. There's no
world in which Trump wasn't aware of what was going on.
There's no world in which these contemporaneous emails between Maxwell
and Epstein from from the mid two thousands till twenty nineteen,
and the Epstein emails between other people like Michael Wolf

(37:35):
and Steve Bannon and other reporters that talk about how
he can help the Russians manipulate Trump. Do you think
that Jeffrey Epstein had any particular knowledge of Trump that
would have been compromising to the Russians that they would
love to know about, because I think they did. How

(37:58):
he can manipulate, how Epstin can manipulate Trump into owing
him a debt. Could it be knowledge about things that
Trump did with these girls? I Oukham's razor cuts very
straight and true, and I don't think. I don't think
there's anything that the d OJ is hiding that can

(38:20):
be worse for Donald Trump then the continued conspiracy and the.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Cover up to hide it and what we already know,
so that there's someone else, there's someone else who knows
a whole lot who's still alive, and that is Glaine Maxwell.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I got to imagine those
conversations with her and Todd Lanch, like, you know, we
want to try to help you, you know, because prison
can be so dangerous. People can people can you know,
end up getting hurt in so many ways. I mean,
you could blame you, you could you could accidentally hang yourself.

(38:58):
It's it's horrible. Well, I don't I don't put anything
past these m efforts.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well, and I'm glad before we get into Gillan, I'm
glad that you brought up Russia because I feel like
we often forget when people are trying to say, but
why would the Trump why would they want to break
the economy? Why would they want to And it's all
a part of a destabilization. Probably this is this is
what Russia wanted.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
The word does the better Russia does q ed everything
and and and I think one of the tragedies here
of of his reelection was that Trump knew the only
way to stay out of prison was to win again.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I don't think Harris and the Democrats and maybe even
us ever internalized that enough, because man, he wanted to
win in a way like you have never seen before,
like nobody, like nothing you've ever seen before. And and
I guess I was going to go to prison, I'd
feel the same one well.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
And then combine that with the determination of the evangelicals
to push forward Project twenty twenty five, and you have
people who are on a god given mission, him to
stay out of prison and them to make us a Christian.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Don't put me in jail. And also where my handmaid's at?

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I okay, Actually one more thing, I do want to,
like take two minutes to do tinfoil hat. I don't
think that's out of bounds to take a second or
third or nineteenth. Look at the circumstances surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's death,
given what we know, and Trump having been president at

(40:40):
the time.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Epstein didn't kill himself. I mean, there's no there's I mean,
at this point, I'm sorry. At this point, I just
have and I am not a tinfoil hat guy. I'm
the last guy with a tinfoil hat on. But at
this point there are so many inconsistencies in this whole,
like the release of the various videos from the prison,

(41:02):
all of the Epstein sending himself an email which is
in this tranch about Trump knew. I mean, I just
find the whole thing to be so wildly improbable that
that this guy who had slithered out of a lot
of other trouble in his life just said no, I'm

(41:24):
so racked with guilt now about being a pedophile.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Not psychos don't do that like psychopaths.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Psychopaths they they they tend to sort of like find
ways to to mangle the truth enough to protect and
preserve themselves. And and that is clearly something that that
and that a Jeffrey Epstein would do. And it's not
it's not the kind of like thing that normal people

(41:53):
like us would do, but it's the kind of thing
that a psychotic child molester would do. And and everybody
who thinks that that Epstein somehow like had no way
to get out of this whole problem. He'd gotten out
of a lot of problems, he had escaped a lot
of accountability. Why wouldn't you think he could get away
with more? That's my question?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, I mean, everybody else in his orbit is getting
away with more. And he had plenty of material in
order to get away with more, and so the trove
of blackmail material that he had would have been enough
to secure his freedom, if you will. And unfortunately it
didn't play out that way.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
You know, I have to move up along, all right, Kate, Sorry.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I Love, I'm sorry I brought up the tinfoil hat,
but we just so many people are saying it, and
we just had to know.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
We have to say. Look, I did not believe at
first that Epstein killed himself or was or committed suicide.
I even wrote a funny piece back in twenty sixteen
or no, twenty eighteen, whatever it was, that was a
that was a It was a short fiction piece like
that Hillary and Jared Kushner meet in the cell when

(43:06):
they're both trying to come to kill him. It was funny.
But look, nothing here, nothing here, smells right. The whole
thing stinks on ice.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I did watch
Scandal a lot. Right, Well, couldn't have written a better script.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
It's funny that the you know, the way the conspiracy
theories work is he they sort of like give you
the puzzle pieces so that you can put it together,
Like you have to feel like you put it together yourself.
And part of the reason that the sort of like
QAnon part of the magabas is like maybe not buying
this is because it's so in your face. They went
through Hillary's emails and they said, well, if you replaced
pizza with little boy and right right with sex parties.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Right, and look, this email has seventeen lines of texts
that means right.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
And then this one is like, please send me the
young girls to have sex with.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I'm looking forward to our next party with the underage girls.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
But here's but people at that level of power think
that they can get away with saying that kind of
thing in an email because they do on a regular basis.
So he wasn't trying to hide anything because he doesn't
he needed to.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
So Glaine time to talk about are the only living
person who knows the truth. I would think.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Donald knows the truth.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Well, he's not going to tell us.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I mean, so she's in a minimum high fluff.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
In this club fed Let me let me give some context.
So the context revealed in this email dump from the
Oversight Committee was that gllaine absolutely lied during her deposition
with Deputy A. G. Todd Blanche, which we want to
lay into him at the Florida prison where she was
being held earlier this year. After that meeting to recap,

(44:58):
as we've covered here, she he was moved to the
Club Fed minimum security prison in Brian, Texas, where she
is now staying, and a new whistleblower disclosure has revealed
the insane preverential treatment she has been getting inside the facility.
It said that Maxwell has been waited on hand and foot,
gotten computer access, special meals, special phone privileges, private gym access,

(45:21):
and even time with an emotional support puppy that no
other inmates or staff were allowed to play with.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
You give me a puppy. I'm not in prison, I'm
in heaven.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
One of the officers at the facility was quoted as
saying he's quote sick of having to be Maxwell's bitch
all this while she prepares us for Donald Trump to
commute her sentence, So meeting with launch and will Trump

(45:52):
pardon her? And how does that play out if he does?
How does he How does he get away with vetoing
this and pardoning the lame and her having this princess
treatment at the prison? Like, how does this play out
to the public? Is the base gonna leave him over this?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Finally, I think this is why they're scrambling because at
this point they've run out, They've played every single card,
and so there's nothing that the Trump administration can do.
Like you said Rick earlier, this can't be spun in
any sort of way, and so this.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Is unspinnably bad. Look I think, I think it will
not be the whole base. There will never be a
moment where he loses one hundred percent of his support,
But this is certainly a moment where he's going to
bleed off another twenty or thirty percent of his support,
where he's gonna lose a few more people. And you know,
you can only lose a few more people so many
times until your political movement falls apart. So you know

(46:49):
the vertical of this maga movement. The vertical power structure
of this movement has been so strong for so long,
and everybody's like, oh, well, it can never be broken. Well,
he has been breaking it all year. It has been
falling apart, slowly but surely all year, and we're right
now at a level where people understand that he is

(47:12):
hiding something. It's why his numbers are down dramatically. I
mean they are down dramatically. Even with his bass folks,
his numbers are way down. And because they're so far down,
it's harder for him to get the latitude he used
to have to be able to say to all Republicans,
fuck you, obey me.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
And the scene people like Meggian and Kelly move the
goalposts is to me a signal that they're trying to
move the goalposts with their base. They're trying to say, Okay,
this stuff is gonna come out. Yeah, he's bad, but
it's you know.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
He's kind of sort of a a pedophile light. It's
not like the full thing. I mean, it's not like
he's a total pedophile all the time. I mean sometimes
he just likes underage tween girls. Get the fuck out
of here.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, it's insane and the fact that it's being now pushed,
it will this will the fallout from all of this
will come January, February March, so the midterms, like the midterms,
will be coming. And this is why.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
And if folks think that we're not going to make
an issue of Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, I have
swamp landed in Florida to sell you, because we're going
to make an issue of Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
This is vile, this is repulsive. This is one of
the sickest things in American political history. And there's no
world in which a responsible political enterprise like ours that

(48:41):
wants to fight Trump and trump Ism. Let's it go.
I'm not letting it go. This is sick, it's fucked up.
People deserve answers, and they also deserve to have Donald
Trump be held accountable, not only for covering up whatever
the fuck he's covering up, but for being Jeffrey Epstein's
running buddy and for years. Let's be real, folks, this

(49:03):
is a sick man. Yeah, I think it's a sick man.
And if you're a friend of his, you're fucked up.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I feel like this is a crossroads for the country
as well morally, because if we lose enough people to
the we're okay with pedophiles running the government. If we
lose people to that, it just is fully.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Defined, it's okay. That's not the world we should want
to live in as Americans. No dangerous.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well, I don't think we can. I think we don't
come back from that. Like I January sixth was a
rock bottom that I feel like we couldn't come back
from that when in terms of politic yeah, no, definitely not.
And so this is a different kind of rock bottom
in a different direction from a moral standpoint, because you
have what leadership more leadership. Can we claim to care

(49:56):
about women, the marginalized, vulnerable at all throughout the world
world if this is.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
What we elevated, you simply cannot at that point.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
And conspiracy theory hat real quick on this delannged thing.
The fact that they put her in a medium security
prison or maybe it's minimum. She's actually a lot it's cushier,
but she's a lot easier to get to than if
she were in a maximum.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Actually, you know that is correct, and glame call me,
you know, I want to say one more thing on
the on the conspiracy theory front go for it. Conspiracy
theories generally, not not universally, but generally are these kind

(50:42):
of lurid things that people want to believe and they
want to feel something that makes them feel coherent and cohesive.
But sometimes the conspiracy is real, and this conspiracy exists.
But the conspiracy you're watching right now is for this
government to cover up the vile, horrifying abuse of girls

(51:04):
and children by associates of Jeffrey Epstein, including the current president.
And we don't know what kind of abuse he did,
or that Jeffrey Epstein did to all these girls, but
we know that all of them were part of this
trafficking network. And we know that Donald Trump was his friend,
and we know now from their contemporaneous reporting that he

(51:25):
knew he knew folks, He knew what was going on.
Whether he was there screwing children is irrelevant at this point.
He knew what Jeffrey Epstein was doing, he had a
moral responsibility to take care of it.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, And so he needs to be held accountable. And
so that's what the American people need to demand all
throughout next year until he's gone like demand until he's
gone into until the other people who were involved also
are held accountable.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
So to put a bow on this, let's try and
quickly answer the question that I've been gets a lot,
which is how long now that now that the government's
back open and now that the House is going to
vote I believe on Tuesday about the disclosure, how long
does it take before it gets to Trump's desk? If
you had to put it like a.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Data Oh look, it'll go instantaneously from from the House,
They'll they'll well, actually, let me rephrase that. I have
to check what the parliamentary rules are for discharge petitions.
If it was a bill, the speaker could wait up
to I think seventy two hours, but a discharge petition

(52:36):
may have made it may be a different maybe a
different kettle of fish. I don't know that answer, come
to think of it, I think he will delay it
as long as possible the Senate, you know, I think
Fune will delay it as long as possible. There's no
world in which this is good for Trump, for this
to get to the President's desk. That's why they're trying

(52:57):
so hard to kill.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
It right now, so like by Christmas, Yes.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Oh yeah, I don't think they can. I don't think
they can manage to hold it off until until Christmas.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I think it goes before that well, and I think
in their best interest they want to get uh, get
it out of the way as soon as possible, if
he's going, if he's going to veto it when it
gets to his desk, because then they can buy themselves
time and run away to be able to do whatever
damage control and repair before the midterms, or come up
with some sort of crisis that they can use to

(53:28):
shield it.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Oh yeah, we're just about to invade Venezuela, so that's
going to be that's going to get spicy. I can't
sign this during this war state of war with a
deadly terrorist threat of Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
All right, it is time for.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
We gotta get some sound effects for that, you know,
I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I'll just leave the studio now, you guys. I actually
want to start off the Lightning round with something really
fun and a callback to earlier in this episode, which
I don't know if you saw me lose my mind backstage, Rick,
do you remember we were talking about pictures of you
in a Lincoln hat. Yes, well, I would first like
to show when that was said within I kid you

(54:19):
not thirty seconds. And this is when I know that
my parents are watching. Hi, Mom and Dad. I got
this from my dad. He texted me immediately. That is
Rick and my dad on a night in Park City,
the Spur.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
In Utah and in fam this night in Famous night.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Those are the pictures that I had on my phone.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yes, but anyway, I can make my hair do that.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Me too.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
That was so funny. Immediately when I was like, oh,
I'll find those pictures like I like immediately in the
corner of my screen, my dad was like, Bob, so
lightning round. Let's start with Italy's biggest pasta exporters plan
to stop exporting their products to the US as soon
as January due to Trump's tariffs. I believe it's one
hundred and seven percent on Italian pasta.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I actually I heard he was going to kick out
people who are overweight anyway, so maybe it's good that
we're cutting down on carbs.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
I heard.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, I did hear that. That whole thing, like there's
a new like customs can ban fat people. Yeah, that
is fuck is Donald Trump gonna travel?

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Should talk? He should talk to his own communications director.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
That guy.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
He must have a really good mirror. Did they replace
all the mirrors?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Because the target skinny mirror?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
You skinny mirror myself.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
That that Stephen Chung is a truly strange cat. I mean,
that is a that is an angry dude, and I
know why he's angry. Look at him me like children
scream when they see him walk on the street. Your god,
animal howl.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
So are people stocking up on pasta? I mean, what
are they doing right now? Is everybody mass buying pasta
because it's you know, non perishable you can you know.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Especially now that we've cut food ad for poor people,
you know, getting rid of pasta that's a luxury good
obviously that no one needs.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Now, this is my favorite lightning round item. I'm just
going to move right into Trump getting booed at the
commander's game. Let's let's let's watch support music to my years.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
You know, yeah, I have to say, that's a poll.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
That's a sixty seven focus group, well of people.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
In the d See area, I should hope. So my
second favorite lightning round item is Trump falling asleep during
one of his own press conferences, just absolutely slumped over
in his chair.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I like the last one, the one on the right
of the screen. But you know, folks, this is Donald
Trump's commitment to ending woke in America.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Woke found Let's see, we're now supposed to get a
two thousand dollars tariff stimulus check. New stimmy's incoming. I
saw a really good tweet about this that was like,
it's actually it's an infinite money, which like it's a
free it's free money to like go on these betting

(57:49):
apps and bet two thousand dollars on whether or not
Trump is going to send the check because if he
doesn't if you bet, if you bet that he's not
going to do it, or if you know he's going
to do.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
It, they get your two thousand dollars if he does it. Right, Oh,
that's clever, you bet.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
I think it's if you bet because the odds are
like eighty twenty now or something. I saw it basically
that like if you bet correctly, like you either just
get your two thousand dollars back or you win sixteen
thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
So here's the Trump administration. Honestly, they're not capable of
administering anything, let alone rolling out checks right now. They
are barely getting like they I'm shocked that they're able
to get dressed and make it to their offices at
this point, because every time I see a press conference

(58:42):
or an oval, it just looks like they're scrambling. So
I don't think a two thousand dollars check is in
anyone's future. And even if it were, even if it were,
the fact that everything is so much more expensive that
two thousand dollars check is really actually worth shit.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Yeah, you know. Yeah. The inflation, the inflation in in
the last year or the last eleven months now is
everything he promised that he would take care of. Lower prices,
lower inflation, not so much.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
I also just want to let people know that if
he does give out a two thousand dollars stimmy check
from the tariff proceeds, that would cost about six hundred
billion dollars, and the terms of raised less than half
of that.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
I believe, I actually I just thought about it. I
think it's all going to be paid out in the
leftover pennies, and you're just going to get two thousand
dollars a pennies at your.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
The sexiest new bitcoin, the Milagnia coin. On one side
one a.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Trump also proposed starting implementing a fifty year mortgage.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Why not seventy?

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Why not easy renting?

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Just pay rent for the rest of your eternity infinite mortgage.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
No, what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
It doesn't even I saw a couple of numbers run
on it. It doesn't even lower the payments significantly enough
to even, Like I believe, I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Believe it lowers your payment something like two or three
hundred dollars a month for the average mortgage, but you
end up paying something like eight hundred thousand dollars more right,
for a half.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
A million dollar mortgage. It lowers your payment like three
hundred and seventy five dollars a month. Yeah, but you
pay basically three times as much fucking interest because it compounds.
I mean, the whole thing is it is like it's like, hey,
we'll walk in through the woods and there's a rusty
bear trap on the ground. You're like, hey, should I

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put my foot in that? And everybody goes, no, No,
that's a bad investment in your time. But Dollald Trump's
asking you to throw your foot into the rusty bear
trap to be trapped in a fucking fifty year mortgage.
You'll never pay off the average age of somebody getting
a mortgage in this country is forty years old. You're
not gonna pay a mortgage to your fucking ninety It's insanity.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Well, that's the thing. It's like, what job are people
working where they're paying that mortgage when they're eighty, Like
at Target.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Whatever job, whatever job gen Z's are the zoomers are
all going to have until we die and never own
our home.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
No jobs because of AI. No one's gonna have too
Our jobs are going to be begging the AI overlords
to not.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Carry May I have a food pod?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
The late nineties, what a great time to be born.
I'm so happy you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
You were happier earlier in the show.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
You were all like, oh that was before my time,
existential dread.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Yeah, but now I'm realizing I'm never going to be
a homeowner.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Take out that ninety year mortgage. You should be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Yeah, you never know. A whole bunch of the elder
boomers are dying off pretty at a pretty rapid clip.
Right now. The market's going to crash.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I think their next housing are just going to match roommates.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Rights, and actually it's gonna be like we're going to
we're going to have a dormitory style housing for adults.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah, exactly. Co living.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Co living is already a thing in some more like
progressive circles, like people having families and choosing to like
colb Are.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Those the same thing as polycols?

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
No, it's not like a polycol It's more like a commune.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Okay, but I I do only think polyamory is only
popular because of the housing crisis. I don't think. I
don't think people are progressive, They're just practical.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I just need more roommates.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Yeah, we need to cut down the cost of by
the cost.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
I have one more item for our lightning round, which
is that Elon Musk's X has introduced certified Bangers, ranking
the top posts based on their authentic engagement each month,
including verified impressions, likes, bookmarks, reposts, and rep Accounts with
a certified banger post will have a badge appear on

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their profile.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Could you name it anything else? Could you name it
anything else? The other fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
This goes back, This goes back to the we're all
twelve year olds now, like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
This is yes, like, yes, certified banger, Hello, fellow kids.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, I realize because at twelve is the age where
all the really bad bullying got like, that's junior high
and so they're all stuck in when they first started
getting bullied, all of them, Peter Teel Jarvin, this, what's
what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
You know what, that's a really good point, Maya. They
got stuck at twelve or thirteen years old when they
were awkward little motherfuckers and they got their asses beat
and they never played team sports, and there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Rick, I'm assuming this is a this is a great
extrapolation of that. But I'm assuming you have heard the
everyone is twelve No.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Oh, yeah, I've heard it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah, okay, just making sure can you explain it to
our audience for people who are maybe not that people
learn of nine hours of screen time a day.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
No, it's basically that our emotional baseline in this country
has now reached the point where you could describe the
actions of most adults by the actions of what the
average twelve year old would engage in. Is that pretty accurate?
I think that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
That was a perfect description of that was that was
spot on, and that is exactly what is happening. And
in order to stay sane, you should operate in the
world as such. Otherwise, don't go crazy there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Well, I want to give credit to the original creator.
The Twitter user is Patrick Cosmos. The original tweet was
a couple months ago. It was working on a unified
theory of American reality. I'm calling everyone is twelve now.
And then there are a lot of different replies being
like this shifted something you can't unsee it. I don't
want to get my shots. Why would you? You're twelve.

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I want a robot that can draw Star Wars pictures
and do my homework. Well, yeah, a twelve year old
would want that, would it they? And really it applies
so well across the board. So think about that next time.
Next time someone tells you something stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Well that idea, that idea is so it feels it's
got the truthiness to it right now because there is
a lack of political and social maturity in this country
right now that I find inexplicable. Otherwise, I mean, we

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were facing the multiple crises on multiple axes right now,
and if this was a World War two, we've had
the equivalent of an economic pearl harbor this year. We've
had all this chaos in the world that has surrounded us,
and yet eight dipshits gave up on trying to put

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pressure on the people doing all the harm going. They
wanted it because they wanted to be the tracy fucking
flicks of the Yeah, be at the front of the room.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
I'm gonna name those eight sentence democrats. I'm going to
direct everyone to look them up, because I don't have
it in front of me, and you're not going to
write it down right now anyway. To look up their
phone numbers and call their oppositely.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
There's a there's a there's a free post on my
substack called a call to arms on the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
It has all of their names and the phone. I
will tell you their names now. It is Senators Dick Durbin,
Catherine Cortez Masto, John Fetterman, Tim Kaine, Angus King, Jackie Rosen,
Maggie Hawsen, and Jean Shaheen.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
By the way, there was a if you guys don't
follow New York Times pitchpot or Doug J. Balloon on
the socials, folks do? He writes these absolutely pitch perfect
New York Times fake headlines and today's was Now is
the time of the Senate to vote to hide the
Epstein files further signed Tim Kaine and John Fetterman.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Did we get everything. I think we got everything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
I think we did a whole show. Did we do
a whole show?

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
We got a whole show.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
We did a whole show for an hour and seven minutes.
People be grateful.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Yeah, we're grateful for you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Grateful for y'all. Y'all. Subscribe God, you can hit that
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Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
All right, see you guys next time. I'm cutting this
off your night.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Ye