The Tampa Bay Buccaneers suffered a 24-9 loss to the Detroit Lions on Monday Night Football, and it was a game dominated by Detroit’s Jahmyr Gibbs. The rookie running back exploded for 218 total yards and two touchdowns, torching Tampa Bay’s defense from start to finish. Baker Mayfield had one of his worst outings of the 2025 season, completing just 28 of 50 passes for 228 yards with one touchdown and one interception. To make matters worse, wide receiver Mike Evans exited early with a broken collarbone and a concussion — a devastating blow for the Bucs’ offense and playoff hopes. Despite the setback, Tampa Bay still sits at 5-2, but the loss exposed offensive issues and depth concerns that could shape the second half of the season. The defense couldn’t contain Gibbs, the offense faltered on third down, and the absence of Evans will force Todd Bowles and the coaching staff to adjust fast before their crucial divisional matchup against the New Orleans Saints. Fans and analysts alike are asking — can the Bucs bounce back and stay in the NFC playoff race? #GoBucs #TampaBayBuccaneers #NFL #BucsPodcast #BuccaneersVsLions #MikeEvans #BakerMayfield #ToddBowles
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
On today's show, the Bucks lose to the Lions in
Monday Night Football by a score of twenty four to nine.
But what's even worse, Mike Evans out for the foreseeable future.
What does that mean for the Bucks? I'll discuss next
on this edition of The Box Report.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Let's go then, Well, hello and welcome into this edition
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surrounding your favorite team, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, check out
the Bucksreport dot com. So in this edition of the
Bucks Report, we talk about the loss in Monday Night
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Football to the Lions by a score of twenty four
to twenty nine and how easily the chance of Baker
Mayfield as the MVP evaporate. This is a week to
week league. This is a game by game league, a
game of what have you done for me lately? And
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in the game Monday Night, well, they're left quite a
bit to be desired. And what am I talking about?
This was against a tough team, make no mistake about it,
but it was also against a team that was facing
a lot of injuries as well, they found a way
the lines, that is a way to rise above and
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take down the Bucks. And I guess what makes this
loss so difficult for me? I said this earlier in
the season as well, is this loss felt to me
like more than just a loss. I feel like the
game Monday evening took the Bucks back a couple steps
here and they're going to have to regroup and they're
going to have to do it with Mike Evans out
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of the mix for the foreseeable future. You know, the
reports as I record this at eleven thirty five Eastern,
is that he is going to be out and maybe
all the way till the end of the season. And
as I record this, Baker Mayfield, who was seen limping
off the field, what he said is that he will
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be good to go in the next game versus the Saints.
But we don't know at this point and how everything
has changed. A Mecca Buka was back in the mix,
but doesn't look like the Aboos that we saw earlier
in the season. That you know, riding a high and
that's what it's all about. And you know, I talked
about this follow the bouncing ball that surrounds the Tampa
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Bay Buccaneers. You're on top of the world one minute
and in a lot of ways. I'm not saying pushing
the panic button, but I'm looking for where is it
so when you know, the next thing happens, the next
major injury happens, that maybe we can push the panic
button because, you know, losing primarily the entire wide receiver
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room that has definitely set back the Bucks a bit.
You know, you have Johnson and Johnson as your as
your big you know, contributors in the wide receiver room,
but you're all big key players. I'm talking Godwin Evans,
these kind of guys, Jalen McMillan, that how do you
find a way to rise above? So let's dive into
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it here in this episode here talking about the game
Monday night and just a quick recap here that Detroit
beat Tampa twenty four to nine on Monday Night football,
and how this team doesn't fare too well in these
kind of games, you know, the big stage that sometimes
they struggle. But Gibbs absolutely ripped the Bucks apart. He
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finished with a career day two hundred and eighteen yards
from scrimmage and two rushing touchdowns. The Buccaneers were not
able to contain him. They didn't have the answer. The
Lions were just that much better. Don't go reaching for
your excuse, cover like, where is it? I got to
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find me an excuse somewhere. The Lions were just better
and the Buccaneers are going to have to find a
way to get better in a hurry. You know, I
know that the Saints aren't the Saints that we remember
from back in the breeze days, but you know they're
a team as well that are going to try to
stick it to the Bucks when they're But talking about
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the game last night, Detroit controlled a lot of the
line of scrimmage and made enough plays to take the win.
We had few self inflicted problems to an interception of
fumble and a mischance or two on third down. Bottom line,
they were the better team Monday night. Yeah, that's a
short version. Next year. I'll break down what happened and
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Gibbs the man. They had a hard time, like I said,
containing him. And you know, when you have your key
players in place, I'm talking about the lines, your team
plays very well and you take a look at Gibbs,
you know, a standout player, as was evident if you
watched the game, you heard his name quite often, and
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he was the key contributor, and so let's talk about him.
He was physical, he was patient, and when the lane opened,
he hit the Jets the seventy eight yard run. That
was the dagger. It was a big hole run, then
speed to finish. He also had a short spinning touchdown
in the third to salt it away, rubbing salt in
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the wounds of a Bucks team that just didn't look
anything like the team that we had seen earlier in
the season. And when you give a guy space like that,
he can make NFL level plays consistently. He finished with
one hundred and thirty six rushing yards and eighty two
receiving yards, which added up to two hundred and eighteen
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yards from scrimmage that you know. I know. The plan
was to contain him, but they failed quite miserably at
doing it. And that is a career high and is
one of those nights that you can change a season
four back. The lines used him in a balanced way
design run screens and he made them all count and
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for large swaths of the game it felt like Baker
who was normally, you know, quite composed, a guy that
is buttoned up and has his game together. He struggled
and it almost seemed like a paper bag pulled over
his head and trying to hit his attackers. He just
couldn't do it. He looked disjointed. And you know, that's
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one of the things that I talked about, is not
letting all the noise come in, all the MVP talk,
the pump and the tigers that you know, he's trying
to eat humble Pie, but at some point it's seeping in.
And you know, I don't want to say that, you
know it was you know, just all Baker, but Baker
struggled in this game. And I know I'll probably get
some grief for that, as there is a lot of
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Baker fans. I'm a Baker fan. You know, I'm not
abandoning him, you know, if you will, just because he
had a bad game. But these are the moments that
you need to rise above. Had this been the end
of a season and the playoffs were on the line
and they were playing a Lion's esque type team, well
this kind of just really draws into focus what this
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team is made for. And you know, again it's about
regrouping and getting ready for the next one. You have
not a lot of time to lick your wounds, as
it was a Monday night event and the Saints are
on deck. But talking about the offensive performance Baker Mayfield,
Baker finished twenty eight of fifty. Let's circle back to
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that one. Twenty eight of fifty. That is a far
cry from what I'm usually used to coming to you
guys talking about one touchdown, one interception. That's fifty six
percent completion and only about four point six yards per attempt.
And that again, that is who is this is this
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Jekylin Hyde? You know? Did he pull his mask off
and Jameis Winston popped out? I'm not sure his passer
rating was in the sixties. He was under pressure a
lot the lines finished with four sacks. That doesn't help.
That rattles to your confidence. You got to think and
under pressure. Baker's rating was particularly poor. Look earlier this
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season he was playing MVP level ball on Monday Night.
He was below the standard he'd set. Some of that
is credit to Detroit's rush plan, some of its play calling,
some of its execution. You mix it all together and
you get a stagnant passing game. You got to know
and you know, I'll talk about Evans later in the show,
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but him laying it all out on the line, Mike Evans,
that is that the weapons that Baker Mayfield generally had
had at his disposal, he did not have. You saw
Mike Evans leave the game. You saw a BUCA not
one hundred percent and down the depth chart, you know,
Kaitot and these kind of guys having to try to
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rise above we did. The Bucks did manage a touchdown
to rookie Tes Johnson to open the second half. You know,
these guys, if I'm going to reach for the silver lining,
it's that that those guys that there was not a
whole lot of expectation for to start the season have
really stepped up big time. That gave us life for
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a second. But then the offense tall third downs were ugly.
We converted four of sixteen, four of sixteen. That's one
of the things I talked about in the last show.
You got to do better. That's not going to cut it.
And when you can't extend drives, you put your defense
back on the field and guys get tired. And that
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was evidence evident. You know that it looked like they
were just worked over and they didn't really have the answer.
And that was what was difficult in this game. The
playmakers were there in parts, but the Bucks could not
sustain it. The offense line had its moments and its lapses.
I don't want to overblame the O line entirely, but
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when Detroit is generating pressure and you can protect on
third and medium repeatedly, the QB has to rush stuff
and throws gets four. That's what happened. A tough game
for the Buccaneers to try to regroup and how do
they do that? How do they do that without one
of their key weapons. I'm talking Mike Evans. I'm talking
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the fact that he won't be back and tell the
tail end of the season. What does that mean for
the Bucks. I'll discuss straight ahead. All right, Welcome back
into this edition of the Bucks Report, part of the
Bucks Report podcast simulcast on the Bucks Minicast podcast feed,
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part of the Fans for Sports Network. So let's talk
about the injury that Mike Evans. Getting Mike Evans healthy
is it's a herculean feet, isn't it. That's the hamstring
issues it was, you know, the injury in the game
on Monday night, and I understand he's not trying to
injure himself. I get all that. Unlucky, I guess, is
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what I'm going to say. And you know, added to that,
you know Godwin, Godwin being where he's at right now,
that the Buccaneers are rather besieged. I guess you could
say with injury and this next man up mentality, those
are feel good stories for a game or two. But
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what does that mean for the Bucks with the Saints
on deck? And what does the loss of Mike Evans mean?
So Mike Evans exited the game and what turned out
to be a broken collarbone and a concussion a two
for one in the poorest way possible. He was helped
off after a scary looking play. Todd Bowle said after
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the game that Evans will be out for most of
the remainder of the season. Underline that boldface type highlight it.
That could be one of the daggers of the season.
And I don't want to jump into you know, the
despair pools right away, but you know, in key receivers
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and how this team was constructed to start the season
is a far cry from where they're at right now
and Mike Evans loss. That's rough. Mike was coming back
from that hamstring issue and then this happened less than
half into his return. Now, listen, Losing Mike Evans is
massive for the offense. He's not just a target. He's
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a chain mover, a contested catch machine, the guy that
opens up the field for everybody else. The timing is brutal.
I think that you know, a lot of Bucks fans
were getting ready to celebrate, like who are we going
to play in the playoffs? Those kind of things. Pump
the brakes, folks here temper expectations on this season. But
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this is the team being put to test, you know again,
can they rally and pick up next win? Okay? Then
that softens the blow where this team can spin out
of control in a hurry. Is that if it's one
loss and then a second loss and it built and
then all of a sudden you're losing games to teams
that you're much better, then that's where this Evans injury
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really gets drawn into focus. So what does this mean? Well,
it means we need other guys to step up a Meccha, Abuka, Sterling, Shepherd,
k Dot and Rashad White in the run game, but
also go also schematically, Todd Bowles and the staff will
have to rework the passing concepts. Take however, you drew
this up in the beginning of the season and throw
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it in the garbage. It's null and void. You can't
just replace Evans overnight. You can reach for the waiver wire. Hell,
you can even make a trade out there. You're not
going to find another Evans on the market. The thing
I know for certain, Jason light better, you know, really
dig deep and historically high five in him all the way,
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like wow at the draft at you know, this and
that and the other thing. I'm going to hold the
high five and see what he does. There's got to
be an answer behind door number two. This team has
too many in injuries for the next man up mentality.
We're already some of the last men available up. We
have not a lot of men down there to up.
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So he's going to have to go out. You know,
the trade deadline is in early November and do something
to rectify this or this season that you know, just
last week. You know, when I say it's a week
to week league, it's not hyperbole. It is quite actually
a week to week league and Mike Evans out for
what is going to be damn near the duration. That's
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a dagger rate here that I don't know how the
Buccaneers overcome from. So the defense and what did work.
We pressured Jared Goff at times. We forced a few mistakes,
but there were also big plays against us. The twenty
seven yard touchdown to a mon Ross Saint Brown on
Detroit's opening drive. That was what started the positivity momentum
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going for them. Gibbs runs created a tone that forced
us to play more reactive than protective early in the game.
It a fight or flight in the Bucks. Early in
the game, Detroit had an interception and a lost fumble
and even a missed field goal. Yet they found a
way to batten down the mental hatches and get it done.
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Despite those opportunities, they still led fourteen to three at
one point because we couldn't flip turnovers into sustained offensive advantage.
That is complimentary football issue. Defense does what it can.
Offense must capitalize. A couple of things I saw that
need fixing. Tackling angles in space, getting off blocks, quicker
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on second level runs, and better disguise pre snap adjustments
to slow down Gibbs. They didn't do it. There's no
do over. That's it. Also, getting a consistent edge pressure matters.
If we can win one on one, outside teams will
keep cutting to the perimeter and using screens and draws
to beat our leverage. And that's the thing, you know,
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you have to make the most of your opportunity. Some
things worked, most things didn't. Talk in special teams and kicking,
small margin stuff. Chase McLoughlin made a fifty three yarder
to get us on the board at halftime. That was huge.
That's offense. We'll take it on the flip. Detroit hit
a fifty eight yarder off the uprights early in the fourth.
So the kicking game was actually a wash in terms
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of distance. But special teams do more than kick distance.
Field position matters. We had a couple of punts that
could have pinned them deeper. Again, that is a mess.
I think that the special teams needs work, shall we say,
little things that can matter later in the game. Also,
coverage units needed to avoid penalties. Penalties killed drives and
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extend opponents' sets. They did the right things right and
like I said, they adjusted when things weren't going right. That,
as a matter of fact, is why the Lines won
this game. Now, we already discussed Mike Evans, which is
a huge one, right and do you want more bad news?
So that's all I got. I'm reaching, I'm looking in
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the cupboard here, hmm, I don't. I'm a lot of
good news. All I've got is bad news. Is that? Okay,
that's where we're at here. Hassan Reddick left with me
and ankle issues in the second half. We had other
bumps and bruises during the game two, you know, which
is expected in prime time. But then Evans news overshadows
everything even bigger than the loss, if you can believe it.
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Detroit had some personal issues in their secondary as well. Still,
they found a way to make plays and give stepped
up That's what truly good teams do. Again, not a
knock on the Bucks, but these are the kind of
teams the Buccaneers are gonna have to win win against,
and depth will be tested over the next month. The
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Bucks have to. They have to, there's no other choice.
Figure out who steps up into the role and how
to keep a passing attack viable without their alpha leader,
the heart of the offense four years has been Mike Evans,
and now he's out for damn near the duration. That's
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a dagger. Let's not try to polish that turd too much.
If you're worried about Evans a timeline. The coaches said
he'll be gone until toward the end of the season.
That means, Jason Light, are you listening, pick up the phone.
That means we need a plan for November football without him.
We can't just go hey, man, you know that's Disney
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movie stuff. Hey, next man up, and this guy saved
the day. That's good for a game or two. How
the hell do you dig deeper? We're in a hole.
Someone's got to throw us a lifeline. We need something
to feel positive about, you know. That might you know,
include lineup changes, more creative route combos, and perhaps leaning
a little more on the run or tight end work.
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But we need to address the lack of receivers. There's
no AND's, ifs or butts. God went out, Evan's out,
mcmill out, Abuka sixty to seventy five percent in the game.
We need more answers, all right. Player notes who stood
out for Tampa Tez Johnson Again, I'm looking for a
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silver lining. That is, it had the twenty two yard
touchdown to open the second half that played some juice
and playmaking ability. Kate Otten had some reliable reps. Rashad
White carried some of the load on the run game
and did what he could special teams. Chase McLaughlin was
reliable at the long field goal. We saw flashes from
a few of the depth receivers and tight ends, but
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the overarching feeling is we need more consistent production from
the top targets when it gets tight. The offensive weapons
are there, but they need to make the tough catches
in the key moments. How is this going to get rectified?
You ask how Dan how film room tactical fixes. From
a schematic perspective, there are things that Bucks have to adjust.
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One gap discipline against a guy like Gibbs on the
defense front over pursues or fails to scrape right. Gibs
fine seams to disguise the pressure packages. When you can't
consistently win pure four man rush, you need timely blitzes
and stunts. Three third down play calling on offense, we
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need higher percentage plays and set up manageable third down distances,
not repeated third and long that favors the defense, and
for situational football, when you turn the ball over or
don't convert on third down, the scoreboard pressure becomes real,
and it's real. Coaches have to detail better in place.
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Todd Bowles again, you're gonna have to take the snow
globe then shake it all up because what you did
earlier in the season that ain't cutting it anymore. And
I know practice fixes can sound like a cliche, but
the tape shows gaps and the staff has to has
to address them quickly because we have a tough road
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trip New Orleans coming up up and well what's that
after that? The Patriots, right, they're going to have to
be ready. So you know, like I said, a week
to week league, what has changed the NFC picture where
this loss leaves us. Before the game, we were sitting
in a good spot in the NFC. After the loss,
we slid down in the seating that quickly, folks. The
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Bucks drop from the top spot in NFC to around
the fourth seed depending on tie breakers. We're still five
and two, so we're still in the thick of it.
You got to dig deep, Baker Mayfield, do the damn
thing You've done this entire season, in the entire duration
that your buck rally, the dam troops dig deep, you know,
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brush aside. Let this put a chip on both shoulders
and lift this team over the damn finish line. It's
up to the leaders on the team. Evans, one of
the pillars is out. You gotta lean on what's worked.
So losing Evans complicates the road forward. But in terms
of scheme and confidence, we are not out by any stretch.
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We still control our own damn destiny. We just have
to respond. We need to respond against the Saints. There
is no ads, ifs or butts playoff. Math is one thing,
team morale and trajectory is another. Right now, we need
a response that is the reality. All right, So to
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close out the show, up next the Saints trip and
immedia timeline and the media narrative straight ahead. All right,
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Report on YouTube. Comment anything down below. Let's blow it up,
all right, Let's dive into the final segment of today's show.
There's a lot of negativity. I don't like coming to
you guys with negativity. I'd rather just pump some positivity
down your throat. But it is what it is. I
got to talk to you about the good and the bad,
and the narrative around the team. The media narrative a
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very fickle bunch that's looking for clickbait. The media is
going to have a field day. You lose a primetime game,
you lose your best receiver to the injury front on
a national audience, and the storyline gets loud. The hater raid.
The people that wanted to dismiss this team for seasons
and then turned a little bit to start the season
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like maybe this is the Bucks here are quick to
just jump back to their own storylines, their old storylines,
like ah, I knew this team was fools gold Right.
We have to tune out a lot of the chatter
from the media. Players talk about focusing on the locker room,
focusing on practice, but outside the noise affects the fan base,
affects the confidence and can leak into your mindset. You
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got to know the players are listening to the media.
And I listened to Stroud's show today, Right and an
accurate assessor Steve and uh Rick Stroud knock it out
of the park day in and day out, and I
listened to a bit of Locked on Bucks and I
think some you know, really good takes there as well.
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Uh that you know the people that cover the team.
I'm talking Onman as well. He's bigger picture NFL. They're
not pushing the panic button, but they're giving you some
tough love that you know you can have. You know,
people out there that are going to tell you you're
the greatest in the world, but you also need people
to steer you straight. And that's where we're at right now.
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The leadership ship group, Levante, David Baker, Mayfield, the veterans
have to keep the locker room steady. Levante is the
player I failed to mention in the previous segment, but
a pillar has been four years. Uh. Those are the
intangible leadership moments that matter. In October when the schedule
Titans again, it's one loss, and I know it sounds
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so crazy to get work up about it, but this
wasn't just like, you know, a close loss. This just
kind of felt like, what was it the Eagles earlier
in the season, Like, Wow, that team is quite a
bit better than us. I got those same vibes surrounding
the game Monday night. So what the coaches need to
do practical moves? One give bicker quicker reads early in
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the playbook, short to intermediate connections, quick outs, and high
percentage completions to get rhythm, to schematically game plan to
limit Gibs second level access. That's what they needed to do.
They didn't use two high safety looks to force Detroit
to win space. These are the woulda should have could
didn't And you know the thing they did, you know,
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get Odden and Shepard more involved in the red zone
and intermediate throws for evaluate the pass rush and maybe
look for help in front in the front office to
add serious about adding a wide receiver, perhaps on edge rusher.
So what's a fans perspective from this? What is a
fan to do walking away from this? Are you still
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as confident about this team right now? To all the
Bucks fans listening, the knee jerk panic is natural. You
watch your team lose on national TV and watched Mike
Evans carted off. That's hard to overcome from. And if
you live out of market and people know you're a
fan of Bucks, it's the agony of defeat. And if
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you're old enough to know, you know on the Wide
World of Sports on ABC, the guy falling down the
ski jump there the agony of defeat. That's what it
felt like. And you know, coming around your fellow colleagues
or employees that you work with and go, how about them? Bucks?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Dan?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Right, those are the moments that really suck for me.
I'm glad I don't have to work today. But we're
five and two. This team has talent. The schedule shows
favors and stretches. The smart move as a fan is
to keep supporting, but also demand accountability. Again, don't fall
into cliches. It was only one game, you know. Blah
blah blah blah. Fix it, fix it, that's all I
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gotta say. Call the coaches out when it's warranted, but
don't jump off the cliff yet. Football is a relatively
long season. It's not as long as the hockey season
or the baseball season, but it goes all the way
into the new year, right, and injuries happen. The teams
that respond best are usually the ones that keep coaching
continuity and buy into the next play. We'll see how
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the club house responds. It is going to be interesting
to see what to do. But looking longer term here,
you know, losing Evans could affect our passing, attack and
playoff ceiling. But teams evolve across the season. A Mecca,
a Buka and others could increase their role. Again to
circle back, I don't know what's going on with a Buka.
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We need to see more there. Right, the run game
and defense have to tighten up and carry the load.
The front office might explore the trade market for receiver
or edge rusher, depending on the way the roster looks
in what they lack Again, Jason Light, don't wait until
the drade deadline. You will pay the king's ransom. Figure
it out. I know that you don't want to trade
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draft picks, but if there's a season out there, if
there's a season out there to push the damn chips in,
this is what this is it. I mean, I think
that you get a receiver or two, you get an
edge rusher, you're back in it. If you fail, if
you fail to fix the problem, then you're the problem.
They Jason like knows what he needs to do. He
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knows what he needs to do, and I know that
you can't pick up you know, a damn wide receiver
off the market like it's door dash. I get that,
but that's what good gms do. That's the thing here,
you know. The thing of it is when in New
Orleans and you calm, the nerves, lose and the questions
grow louder. How the hell did you lose to the Saints?
What is this team? Is it really fools? Gold? But
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at five and two you still control a lot of
what happens next. Depth is the real concerns the currency
from now until January, how coaches manage the roster will
matter again. I don't want to seem like I'm pushing
the panic button, but I want to be real with
you guys here as well that you know I was
hoping that they'd find a way to win. I knew
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the lines were going to be difficult. I know that
they were facing a lot of injuries, and yet still
the Lions found a way to close it out. Listen.
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On today's show, the Bucks lose to the Lions in
Monday Night Football by a score of twenty four to nine.
But what's even worse, Mike Evans out for the foreseeable future.
What does that mean for the Bucks? I'll discuss next
on this edition of The Box Report.
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Bucks Report, we talk about the loss in Monday Night
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Football to the Lions by a score of twenty four
to twenty nine and how easily the chance of Baker
Mayfield as the MVP evaporate. This is a week to
week league. This is a game by game league, a
game of what have you done for me lately? And
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in the game Monday Night, well, they're left quite a
bit to be desired. And what am I talking about?
This was against a tough team, make no mistake about it,
but it was also against a team that was facing
a lot of injuries as well, they found a way
the lines, that is a way to rise above and
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take down the Bucks. And I guess what makes this
loss so difficult for me? I said this earlier in
the season as well, is this loss felt to me
like more than just a loss. I feel like the
game Monday evening took the Bucks back a couple steps
here and they're going to have to regroup and they're
going to have to do it with Mike Evans out
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of the mix for the foreseeable future. You know, the
reports as I record this at eleven thirty five Eastern,
is that he is going to be out and maybe
all the way till the end of the season. And
as I record this, Baker Mayfield, who was seen limping
off the field, what he said is that he will
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be good to go in the next game versus the Saints.
But we don't know at this point and how everything
has changed. A Mecca Buka was back in the mix,
but doesn't look like the Aboos that we saw earlier
in the season. That you know, riding a high and
that's what it's all about. And you know, I talked
about this follow the bouncing ball that surrounds the Tampa
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Bay Buccaneers. You're on top of the world one minute
and in a lot of ways. I'm not saying pushing
the panic button, but I'm looking for where is it
so when you know, the next thing happens, the next
major injury happens, that maybe we can push the panic
button because, you know, losing primarily the entire wide receiver
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room that has definitely set back the Bucks a bit.
You know, you have Johnson and Johnson as your as
your big you know, contributors in the wide receiver room,
but you're all big key players. I'm talking Godwin Evans,
these kind of guys, Jalen McMillan, that how do you
find a way to rise above? So let's dive into
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it here in this episode here talking about the game
Monday night and just a quick recap here that Detroit
beat Tampa twenty four to nine on Monday Night football,
and how this team doesn't fare too well in these
kind of games, you know, the big stage that sometimes
they struggle. But Gibbs absolutely ripped the Bucks apart. He
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finished with a career day two hundred and eighteen yards
from scrimmage and two rushing touchdowns. The Buccaneers were not
able to contain him. They didn't have the answer. The
Lions were just that much better. Don't go reaching for
your excuse, cover like, where is it? I got to
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find me an excuse somewhere. The Lions were just better
and the Buccaneers are going to have to find a
way to get better in a hurry. You know, I
know that the Saints aren't the Saints that we remember
from back in the breeze days, but you know they're
a team as well that are going to try to
stick it to the Bucks when they're But talking about
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the game last night, Detroit controlled a lot of the
line of scrimmage and made enough plays to take the win.
We had few self inflicted problems to an interception of
fumble and a mischance or two on third down. Bottom line,
they were the better team Monday night. Yeah, that's a
short version. Next year. I'll break down what happened and
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Gibbs the man. They had a hard time, like I said,
containing him. And you know, when you have your key
players in place, I'm talking about the lines, your team
plays very well and you take a look at Gibbs,
you know, a standout player, as was evident if you
watched the game, you heard his name quite often, and
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he was the key contributor, and so let's talk about him.
He was physical, he was patient, and when the lane opened,
he hit the Jets the seventy eight yard run. That
was the dagger. It was a big hole run, then
speed to finish. He also had a short spinning touchdown
in the third to salt it away, rubbing salt in
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the wounds of a Bucks team that just didn't look
anything like the team that we had seen earlier in
the season. And when you give a guy space like that,
he can make NFL level plays consistently. He finished with
one hundred and thirty six rushing yards and eighty two
receiving yards, which added up to two hundred and eighteen
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yards from scrimmage that you know. I know. The plan
was to contain him, but they failed quite miserably at
doing it. And that is a career high and is
one of those nights that you can change a season
four back. The lines used him in a balanced way
design run screens and he made them all count and
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for large swaths of the game it felt like Baker
who was normally, you know, quite composed, a guy that
is buttoned up and has his game together. He struggled
and it almost seemed like a paper bag pulled over
his head and trying to hit his attackers. He just
couldn't do it. He looked disjointed. And you know, that's
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one of the things that I talked about, is not
letting all the noise come in, all the MVP talk,
the pump and the tigers that you know, he's trying
to eat humble Pie, but at some point it's seeping in.
And you know, I don't want to say that, you
know it was you know, just all Baker, but Baker
struggled in this game. And I know I'll probably get
some grief for that, as there is a lot of
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Baker fans. I'm a Baker fan. You know, I'm not
abandoning him, you know, if you will, just because he
had a bad game. But these are the moments that
you need to rise above. Had this been the end
of a season and the playoffs were on the line
and they were playing a Lion's esque type team, well
this kind of just really draws into focus what this
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team is made for. And you know, again it's about
regrouping and getting ready for the next one. You have
not a lot of time to lick your wounds, as
it was a Monday night event and the Saints are
on deck. But talking about the offensive performance Baker Mayfield,
Baker finished twenty eight of fifty. Let's circle back to
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that one. Twenty eight of fifty. That is a far
cry from what I'm usually used to coming to you
guys talking about one touchdown, one interception. That's fifty six
percent completion and only about four point six yards per attempt.
And that again, that is who is this is this
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Jekylin Hyde? You know? Did he pull his mask off
and Jameis Winston popped out? I'm not sure his passer
rating was in the sixties. He was under pressure a
lot the lines finished with four sacks. That doesn't help.
That rattles to your confidence. You got to think and
under pressure. Baker's rating was particularly poor. Look earlier this
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season he was playing MVP level ball on Monday Night.
He was below the standard he'd set. Some of that
is credit to Detroit's rush plan, some of its play calling,
some of its execution. You mix it all together and
you get a stagnant passing game. You got to know
and you know, I'll talk about Evans later in the show,
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but him laying it all out on the line, Mike Evans,
that is that the weapons that Baker Mayfield generally had
had at his disposal, he did not have. You saw
Mike Evans leave the game. You saw a BUCA not
one hundred percent and down the depth chart, you know,
Kaitot and these kind of guys having to try to
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rise above we did. The Bucks did manage a touchdown
to rookie Tes Johnson to open the second half. You know,
these guys, if I'm going to reach for the silver lining,
it's that that those guys that there was not a
whole lot of expectation for to start the season have
really stepped up big time. That gave us life for
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a second. But then the offense tall third downs were ugly.
We converted four of sixteen, four of sixteen. That's one
of the things I talked about in the last show.
You got to do better. That's not going to cut it.
And when you can't extend drives, you put your defense
back on the field and guys get tired. And that
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was evidence evident. You know that it looked like they
were just worked over and they didn't really have the answer.
And that was what was difficult in this game. The
playmakers were there in parts, but the Bucks could not
sustain it. The offense line had its moments and its lapses.
I don't want to overblame the O line entirely, but
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when Detroit is generating pressure and you can protect on
third and medium repeatedly, the QB has to rush stuff
and throws gets four. That's what happened. A tough game
for the Buccaneers to try to regroup and how do
they do that? How do they do that without one
of their key weapons. I'm talking Mike Evans. I'm talking
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the fact that he won't be back and tell the
tail end of the season. What does that mean for
the Bucks. I'll discuss straight ahead. All right, Welcome back
into this edition of the Bucks Report, part of the
Bucks Report podcast simulcast on the Bucks Minicast podcast feed,
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part of the Fans for Sports Network. So let's talk
about the injury that Mike Evans. Getting Mike Evans healthy
is it's a herculean feet, isn't it. That's the hamstring
issues it was, you know, the injury in the game
on Monday night, and I understand he's not trying to
injure himself. I get all that. Unlucky, I guess, is
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what I'm going to say. And you know, added to that,
you know Godwin, Godwin being where he's at right now,
that the Buccaneers are rather besieged. I guess you could
say with injury and this next man up mentality, those
are feel good stories for a game or two. But
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what does that mean for the Bucks with the Saints
on deck? And what does the loss of Mike Evans mean?
So Mike Evans exited the game and what turned out
to be a broken collarbone and a concussion a two
for one in the poorest way possible. He was helped
off after a scary looking play. Todd Bowle said after
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the game that Evans will be out for most of
the remainder of the season. Underline that boldface type highlight it.
That could be one of the daggers of the season.
And I don't want to jump into you know, the
despair pools right away, but you know, in key receivers
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and how this team was constructed to start the season
is a far cry from where they're at right now
and Mike Evans loss. That's rough. Mike was coming back
from that hamstring issue and then this happened less than
half into his return. Now, listen, Losing Mike Evans is
massive for the offense. He's not just a target. He's
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a chain mover, a contested catch machine, the guy that
opens up the field for everybody else. The timing is brutal.
I think that you know, a lot of Bucks fans
were getting ready to celebrate, like who are we going
to play in the playoffs? Those kind of things. Pump
the brakes, folks here temper expectations on this season. But
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this is the team being put to test, you know again,
can they rally and pick up next win? Okay? Then
that softens the blow where this team can spin out
of control in a hurry. Is that if it's one
loss and then a second loss and it built and
then all of a sudden you're losing games to teams
that you're much better, then that's where this Evans injury
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really gets drawn into focus. So what does this mean? Well,
it means we need other guys to step up a Meccha, Abuka, Sterling, Shepherd,
k Dot and Rashad White in the run game, but
also go also schematically, Todd Bowles and the staff will
have to rework the passing concepts. Take however, you drew
this up in the beginning of the season and throw
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it in the garbage. It's null and void. You can't
just replace Evans overnight. You can reach for the waiver wire. Hell,
you can even make a trade out there. You're not
going to find another Evans on the market. The thing
I know for certain, Jason light better, you know, really
dig deep and historically high five in him all the way,
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like wow at the draft at you know, this and
that and the other thing. I'm going to hold the
high five and see what he does. There's got to
be an answer behind door number two. This team has
too many in injuries for the next man up mentality.
We're already some of the last men available up. We
have not a lot of men down there to up.
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So he's going to have to go out. You know,
the trade deadline is in early November and do something
to rectify this or this season that you know, just
last week. You know, when I say it's a week
to week league, it's not hyperbole. It is quite actually
a week to week league and Mike Evans out for
what is going to be damn near the duration. That's
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a dagger rate here that I don't know how the
Buccaneers overcome from. So the defense and what did work.
We pressured Jared Goff at times. We forced a few mistakes,
but there were also big plays against us. The twenty
seven yard touchdown to a mon Ross Saint Brown on
Detroit's opening drive. That was what started the positivity momentum
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going for them. Gibbs runs created a tone that forced
us to play more reactive than protective early in the game.
It a fight or flight in the Bucks. Early in
the game, Detroit had an interception and a lost fumble
and even a missed field goal. Yet they found a
way to batten down the mental hatches and get it done.
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Despite those opportunities, they still led fourteen to three at
one point because we couldn't flip turnovers into sustained offensive advantage.
That is complimentary football issue. Defense does what it can.
Offense must capitalize. A couple of things I saw that
need fixing. Tackling angles in space, getting off blocks, quicker
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on second level runs, and better disguise pre snap adjustments
to slow down Gibbs. They didn't do it. There's no
do over. That's it. Also, getting a consistent edge pressure matters.
If we can win one on one, outside teams will
keep cutting to the perimeter and using screens and draws
to beat our leverage. And that's the thing, you know,
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you have to make the most of your opportunity. Some
things worked, most things didn't. Talk in special teams and kicking,
small margin stuff. Chase McLoughlin made a fifty three yarder
to get us on the board at halftime. That was huge.
That's offense. We'll take it on the flip. Detroit hit
a fifty eight yarder off the uprights early in the fourth.
So the kicking game was actually a wash in terms
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of distance. But special teams do more than kick distance.
Field position matters. We had a couple of punts that
could have pinned them deeper. Again, that is a mess.
I think that the special teams needs work, shall we say,
little things that can matter later in the game. Also,
coverage units needed to avoid penalties. Penalties killed drives and
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extend opponents' sets. They did the right things right and
like I said, they adjusted when things weren't going right. That,
as a matter of fact, is why the Lines won
this game. Now, we already discussed Mike Evans, which is
a huge one, right and do you want more bad news?
So that's all I got. I'm reaching, I'm looking in
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the cupboard here, hmm, I don't. I'm a lot of
good news. All I've got is bad news. Is that? Okay,
that's where we're at here. Hassan Reddick left with me
and ankle issues in the second half. We had other
bumps and bruises during the game two, you know, which
is expected in prime time. But then Evans news overshadows
everything even bigger than the loss, if you can believe it.
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Detroit had some personal issues in their secondary as well. Still,
they found a way to make plays and give stepped
up That's what truly good teams do. Again, not a
knock on the Bucks, but these are the kind of
teams the Buccaneers are gonna have to win win against,
and depth will be tested over the next month. The
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Bucks have to. They have to, there's no other choice.
Figure out who steps up into the role and how
to keep a passing attack viable without their alpha leader,
the heart of the offense four years has been Mike Evans,
and now he's out for damn near the duration. That's
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a dagger. Let's not try to polish that turd too much.
If you're worried about Evans a timeline. The coaches said
he'll be gone until toward the end of the season.
That means, Jason Light, are you listening, pick up the phone.
That means we need a plan for November football without him.
We can't just go hey, man, you know that's Disney
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movie stuff. Hey, next man up, and this guy saved
the day. That's good for a game or two. How
the hell do you dig deeper? We're in a hole.
Someone's got to throw us a lifeline. We need something
to feel positive about, you know. That might you know,
include lineup changes, more creative route combos, and perhaps leaning
a little more on the run or tight end work.
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But we need to address the lack of receivers. There's
no AND's, ifs or butts. God went out, Evan's out,
mcmill out, Abuka sixty to seventy five percent in the game.
We need more answers, all right. Player notes who stood
out for Tampa Tez Johnson Again, I'm looking for a
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silver lining. That is, it had the twenty two yard
touchdown to open the second half that played some juice
and playmaking ability. Kate Otten had some reliable reps. Rashad
White carried some of the load on the run game
and did what he could special teams. Chase McLaughlin was
reliable at the long field goal. We saw flashes from
a few of the depth receivers and tight ends, but
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the overarching feeling is we need more consistent production from
the top targets when it gets tight. The offensive weapons
are there, but they need to make the tough catches
in the key moments. How is this going to get rectified?
You ask how Dan how film room tactical fixes. From
a schematic perspective, there are things that Bucks have to adjust.
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One gap discipline against a guy like Gibbs on the
defense front over pursues or fails to scrape right. Gibs
fine seams to disguise the pressure packages. When you can't
consistently win pure four man rush, you need timely blitzes
and stunts. Three third down play calling on offense, we
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need higher percentage plays and set up manageable third down distances,
not repeated third and long that favors the defense, and
for situational football, when you turn the ball over or
don't convert on third down, the scoreboard pressure becomes real,
and it's real. Coaches have to detail better in place.
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Todd Bowles again, you're gonna have to take the snow
globe then shake it all up because what you did
earlier in the season that ain't cutting it anymore. And
I know practice fixes can sound like a cliche, but
the tape shows gaps and the staff has to has
to address them quickly because we have a tough road
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trip New Orleans coming up up and well what's that
after that? The Patriots, right, they're going to have to
be ready. So you know, like I said, a week
to week league, what has changed the NFC picture where
this loss leaves us. Before the game, we were sitting
in a good spot in the NFC. After the loss,
we slid down in the seating that quickly, folks. The
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Bucks drop from the top spot in NFC to around
the fourth seed depending on tie breakers. We're still five
and two, so we're still in the thick of it.
You got to dig deep, Baker Mayfield, do the damn
thing You've done this entire season, in the entire duration
that your buck rally, the dam troops dig deep, you know,
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brush aside. Let this put a chip on both shoulders
and lift this team over the damn finish line. It's
up to the leaders on the team. Evans, one of
the pillars is out. You gotta lean on what's worked.
So losing Evans complicates the road forward. But in terms
of scheme and confidence, we are not out by any stretch.
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We still control our own damn destiny. We just have
to respond. We need to respond against the Saints. There
is no ads, ifs or butts playoff. Math is one thing,
team morale and trajectory is another. Right now, we need
a response that is the reality. All right, So to
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close out the show, up next the Saints trip and
immedia timeline and the media narrative straight ahead. All right,
welcome back into this edition of The Bucks Report, part
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Report on YouTube. Comment anything down below. Let's blow it up,
all right, Let's dive into the final segment of today's show.
There's a lot of negativity. I don't like coming to
you guys with negativity. I'd rather just pump some positivity
down your throat. But it is what it is. I
got to talk to you about the good and the bad,
and the narrative around the team. The media narrative a
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very fickle bunch that's looking for clickbait. The media is
going to have a field day. You lose a primetime game,
you lose your best receiver to the injury front on
a national audience, and the storyline gets loud. The hater raid.
The people that wanted to dismiss this team for seasons
and then turned a little bit to start the season
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like maybe this is the Bucks here are quick to
just jump back to their own storylines, their old storylines,
like ah, I knew this team was fools gold Right.
We have to tune out a lot of the chatter
from the media. Players talk about focusing on the locker room,
focusing on practice, but outside the noise affects the fan base,
affects the confidence and can leak into your mindset. You
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got to know the players are listening to the media.
And I listened to Stroud's show today, Right and an
accurate assessor Steve and uh Rick Stroud knock it out
of the park day in and day out, and I
listened to a bit of Locked on Bucks and I
think some you know, really good takes there as well.
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Uh that you know the people that cover the team.
I'm talking Onman as well. He's bigger picture NFL. They're
not pushing the panic button, but they're giving you some
tough love that you know you can have. You know,
people out there that are going to tell you you're
the greatest in the world, but you also need people
to steer you straight. And that's where we're at right now.
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The leadership ship group, Levante, David Baker, Mayfield, the veterans
have to keep the locker room steady. Levante is the
player I failed to mention in the previous segment, but
a pillar has been four years. Uh. Those are the
intangible leadership moments that matter. In October when the schedule
Titans again, it's one loss, and I know it sounds
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so crazy to get work up about it, but this
wasn't just like, you know, a close loss. This just
kind of felt like, what was it the Eagles earlier
in the season, Like, Wow, that team is quite a
bit better than us. I got those same vibes surrounding
the game Monday night. So what the coaches need to
do practical moves? One give bicker quicker reads early in
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the playbook, short to intermediate connections, quick outs, and high
percentage completions to get rhythm, to schematically game plan to
limit Gibs second level access. That's what they needed to do.
They didn't use two high safety looks to force Detroit
to win space. These are the woulda should have could
didn't And you know the thing they did, you know,
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get Odden and Shepard more involved in the red zone
and intermediate throws for evaluate the pass rush and maybe
look for help in front in the front office to
add serious about adding a wide receiver, perhaps on edge rusher.
So what's a fans perspective from this? What is a
fan to do walking away from this? Are you still
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as confident about this team right now? To all the
Bucks fans listening, the knee jerk panic is natural. You
watch your team lose on national TV and watched Mike
Evans carted off. That's hard to overcome from. And if
you live out of market and people know you're a
fan of Bucks, it's the agony of defeat. And if
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you're old enough to know, you know on the Wide
World of Sports on ABC, the guy falling down the
ski jump there the agony of defeat. That's what it
felt like. And you know, coming around your fellow colleagues
or employees that you work with and go, how about them? Bucks?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Dan?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Right, those are the moments that really suck for me.
I'm glad I don't have to work today. But we're
five and two. This team has talent. The schedule shows
favors and stretches. The smart move as a fan is
to keep supporting, but also demand accountability. Again, don't fall
into cliches. It was only one game, you know. Blah
blah blah blah. Fix it, fix it, that's all I
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gotta say. Call the coaches out when it's warranted, but
don't jump off the cliff yet. Football is a relatively
long season. It's not as long as the hockey season
or the baseball season, but it goes all the way
into the new year, right, and injuries happen. The teams
that respond best are usually the ones that keep coaching
continuity and buy into the next play. We'll see how
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the club house responds. It is going to be interesting
to see what to do. But looking longer term here,
you know, losing Evans could affect our passing, attack and
playoff ceiling. But teams evolve across the season. A Mecca,
a Buka and others could increase their role. Again to
circle back, I don't know what's going on with a Buka.
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We need to see more there. Right, the run game
and defense have to tighten up and carry the load.
The front office might explore the trade market for receiver
or edge rusher, depending on the way the roster looks
in what they lack Again, Jason Light, don't wait until
the drade deadline. You will pay the king's ransom. Figure
it out. I know that you don't want to trade
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draft picks, but if there's a season out there, if
there's a season out there to push the damn chips in,
this is what this is it. I mean, I think
that you get a receiver or two, you get an
edge rusher, you're back in it. If you fail, if
you fail to fix the problem, then you're the problem.
They Jason like knows what he needs to do. He
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knows what he needs to do, and I know that
you can't pick up you know, a damn wide receiver
off the market like it's door dash. I get that,
but that's what good gms do. That's the thing here,
you know. The thing of it is when in New
Orleans and you calm, the nerves, lose and the questions
grow louder. How the hell did you lose to the Saints?
What is this team? Is it really fools? Gold? But
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at five and two you still control a lot of
what happens next. Depth is the real concerns the currency
from now until January, how coaches manage the roster will
matter again. I don't want to seem like I'm pushing
the panic button, but I want to be real with
you guys here as well that you know I was
hoping that they'd find a way to win. I knew
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the lines were going to be difficult. I know that
they were facing a lot of injuries, and yet still
the Lions found a way to close it out. Listen.
I want to thank you for joining me on this
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