June 26, 2024 • 40 mins
On this week’s episode, we’re digging into the comments section. As I was teasing and building up to the launch of the “Creative IN Process Podcast”, I tested the waters with some questions and asked for your feedback (and yall didnt even know!) I got so many great responses that I decided to pull a couple of them and use them as topics for this episode.
Tune in to see what the question was and what the streets said! Don’t forget that you can always drop a voice comment on the podcast website & get featured on a future episode!
As always, you can learn more about the podcast & join the email list at: http://creativeinprocess.com and remember you can also leave a voice note (record a message directly on the website) to drop your comments, feedback, and pose questions that you want to hear on future episodes!
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Please share this podcast and like, comment, share, and subscribe from wherever you are tuned in…it helps SO much….I’m new here, let’s grow this together!
Enjoy!
Tune in to see what the question was and what the streets said! Don’t forget that you can always drop a voice comment on the podcast website & get featured on a future episode!
As always, you can learn more about the podcast & join the email list at: http://creativeinprocess.com and remember you can also leave a voice note (record a message directly on the website) to drop your comments, feedback, and pose questions that you want to hear on future episodes!
Today’s background music has been provided by: Fasol Prod, check them out at https://www.youtube.com/@FasolProd
Follow me on social media at: @NialandMusic
Follow the podcast page at: @CreativeINProcessPodcast
Please share this podcast and like, comment, share, and subscribe from wherever you are tuned in…it helps SO much….I’m new here, let’s grow this together!
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I'm in process, a working progress, and there's something serving, I do that surface,
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like one step to step, until that step is the overuse, you're all being worth it,
you're all being process, a working progress, you're all being serving, until that surface,
like one step to step, until that step is the overuse, you're all being worth it,
you're all being...
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What's up, family, creative and process, people out there in the world on the internet,
on the podcast apps, the YouTube's, all of the things.
What's going on? My name is Neal Land, if you are new here,
but we're at episode six, I'm hoping that you're just following along,
but if you're new, welcome.
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We are digging into some more stuff today, and I'm excited to be here to talk to you,
I hope that you have been having an amazing season.
I'm navigating through a really crazy schedule in life, and both business and personal,
and just that sort of thing, but I have dedicated to this podcast project,
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and it's slowly growing, I'm excited about that, I'm grateful that you all are tuning in more and more,
and I'm seeing your comments and all that kind of stuff.
I'm really excited for the voice comments that are on the website,
so please check that out, go to creativeandprocess.com,
where you can leave an actual voice comment, and it could be a question,
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it could be feedback or whatever, something that can be included on future episodes,
so please take advantage of the technology and the fanciness,
I would love to hear that, but in the meantime,
we are going to have a conversation that is derived from your perspective and the things that you have to say.
About when I was building up the podcast and getting ready for it, I posed a question,
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I did some little teases here and there, you all didn't even know it was going on,
but I posed a few questions and got some feedback in the comments, right?
So today, I'm going to go back to one of those questions and just read some of the commentary that's on there.
I haven't looked at it in a while, so I don't remember what always in the comments,
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I know that there was some good stuff in there, so I'm not going,
I'm intentionally waiting to do it within this podcast,
I didn't want to be too super prepared, or like, you know, overthink,
and get it, whatever the case may be.
So, we're going to jump right in and get to it.
This particular question is posed for my creative artistic people.
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However, I do know that the responses are going to be for everybody just because there are different ways to get perspective,
regardless of whether or not you're in a particular field,
I think you can gain and glean wisdom from lots of different things,
even if you're not directly involved with the theme of a thing.
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I'm going to jump right into this question that I posed,
and I'm going to see what the comments said,
and I'm just going to pick a good one,
and we're going to make that our topic for today.
If that's cool, say that's cool.
Cool, all right, here we go.
So the question was, for my artistic folks,
what topic needs to be more of a conversation as it relates to what it takes to be a creative person?
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I seriously want to know your thoughts, all creative people, that's the stress.
So that was the question I was posing to elaborate on what the point of the question was.
It was to say in the journey of being an artistic creative person,
what is something that comes up in your life,
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whether it be from the business side, the creative side,
or just everyday life, something that people don't necessarily understand,
that's not talked about that doesn't seem to be at the forefront of conversations in that sort of thing.
And because I am very much about the holistic situation,
like I am an artist, I do create, I do all the technical business things,
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I am also very much aware of the fact that creative individuals in the artistic field
have a certain wiring and the way that we think the things that we go through,
not to say that we are just so completely different,
but we're wired in a way that may be something that happens in the life of someone that is an artistic,
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it can happen a certain way in garners, certain responses, and things like that,
whereas if it happens to a person as artistic, it might just hit in a different way,
and there may be some type of different consideration to be taken so that you don't assume that everyone responds,
or should respond to something a certain way, because artistic people sometimes,
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we think we are a different part of our brain, so things come out differently.
That was the question, I was kind of buffering it and giving you a little more context,
so I'm jumping to comments right now in C, which one we're going to pool for the topic for today,
so I haven't looked at these in a while, but I remember them being really really good,
so let me see what we can touch on, and where we can go,
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I'm literally scrolling right now, you all can't see me doing that,
but I have quite a bit of them, and I feel like I'm going to try to tap into at least two of them today,
and see where we can go from there, so I'll just go in order,
because maybe that'll make more sense that way.
So, I have one from @DocJunia on Instagram,
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and one of the things that he says is maybe a concept or a conversation that's not really being had is,
let's see, oh sorry, he did it too part or here.
Sometimes when we interact with people who aren't creative,
we feel socially awkward, so I could touch on that a little bit,
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and there is some truth to that in some degrees, because I feel like when we walk into a room in a situation,
it's so easy to talk about the artistic side and the creative thing,
and there's two caveats to that.
It can be socially awkward when you go into a room and nobody understands where you're coming from.
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It's hard, and sometimes being in a room full of creative,
sometimes it can be overwhelming because there's just so many layers and levels,
but I think for me, I have found such a refreshing,
it's been such a refreshing place to walk into a room with people who maybe they don't do the exact same thing that you do,
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but they are intrigued enough to just ask qualifying questions,
because me as an individual period, one way to get information out of me is to ask me a question,
because there is so much going on in my brain that just asking an open question,
like how are you, what do you do, you know, those kinds of things?
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That is too much for me, like I need you to be specific, like,
oh, you work in music, what kind of music do you do?
What's your day to day, you know, breaking down that,
or if we've talked before circling back, like hey, last time we spoke, you're working on this.
How is that going?
That's where I can thrive.
It is very, it is like impossible for me to just start from scratch in any conversation.
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Like I can give you a little bit, but I'm going to need some follow-up questions,
because I'm going to think that maybe you don't get what I'm saying,
or maybe I'm saying too much because there is so much going on in my brain,
and the one that is so much happening is very hard for me to articulate in a moment everything.
And so I feel like I wonder if they're even listening to me,
I wonder if I'm talking too much for if I sound like I'm rambling,
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or if I'm not clear in all that kind of stuff.
So I will say to that point, it can be socially awkward to walk into rooms
and have certain conversations, because I can go on and on and on
about the artistic creative stuff, what I'm doing, what I'm working on.
But at the core, I'm very much a person too.
And I have other thoughts about other things that's not necessarily creative related.
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So finding that space to have conversations and socialize and all of that stuff,
and it not just be about the music, because a lot of times, you know,
and it's not a bad thing, but people are intrigued by what you do.
And so they want to ask a lot of questions and they want to know so much about it,
but in certain situations, maybe you don't want to talk about that as much.
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Like if there's like something specific happening,
you're at an event that is centered around what you do, then cool,
but sometimes it's like, yeah, I do all of that, but right now,
I'm just trying to just be, you know, not trying to be on in that creative way.
So it can make for some awkward conversations, but I am very much interested in all sorts of things.
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And even if I don't do what you do, or I can't relate to like your lifestyle or whatever,
I do like asking questions because I'm just intrigued by how people live their lives,
outside of what's normal to me.
So I always like to, you know, inquire and ask questions.
So a lot of times people say like, man, that's a good question you ask.
And or like, man, you're really getting in depth into what it is that I do.
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Do you do this or do you know someone that does this?
And I'll be like, no, I don't.
I just am very interested in what other people are passionate about,
even if I don't understand it, even if I don't do it,
I can take my mind, can go to that place of just really internalizing what is special to other people.
So I like to have conversations about certain things and just ask stuff,
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not because I'm necessarily trying to pursue it or take it on,
but just because it's something else.
So I think that we're all gifted with different passions and talents and gifts and all of that kind of stuff.
And so for me, it's interesting to see kind of like, what God put in somebody else like, well, how is your,
how is your wiring?
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Because I know what my wiring looks like.
How is yours?
That's one aspect of that thing.
So I'll do the part two of his statement and it is he saying that being a creative makes it.
So this time speaking, I can't spend time with my family in the way that I want to sadly neglect,
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come with being great at what we do.
I hope we all get the balance we desire.
That is a whole other level of conversation for sure because there is,
oh, yeah, I think this is what's going to take us through to the end here because he's saying something really,
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really, really, really deep in that space because as a artistic creative person,
especially one that kind of has laid it all out there, put it all on the line, sacrificed to pursue this thing,
it can be extremely isolating, not because you want to be, but just because there is a focus that you have
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that a lot of people don't understand.
And I would was kind of first starting out and you know, doing things and building up my music, writing songs,
doing shows and things like that.
People were so like, they couldn't understand like, well, why don't you just go on American Idol?
And if that is it, like, that's it.
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That's all you have to do to be like famous or whatever, get a record deal, go on American Idol.
And there are so many layers and levels to it that it's like, yeah, no, it doesn't just work like that.
First of all, you have to get selected like that.
May or may not choose you and it's voter base.
So if someone decides they don't like your hair and they don't want to vote for you, you're not going to succeed.
So all those different things and there is a level.
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I will say that there are creative people in the artistic realm from my experience because you know, I don't know everything.
But I definitely have seen this time and time again.
There are different types of people in that space. You have those that do it because it's hobby.
It's something they just like to do.
It's interesting to them. It kind of helps them to give their brain room to do other things outside of whatever their normal day to day is.
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Then you have those that are a little bit more serious about it, but they still have other things that they do that take priority.
And that's cool too. It could be like a full time job or whatever the case may be.
And then there are those who I believe have a level of understanding that you know, this is such a huge part of what I'm here to do.
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What I'm purpose to do. What I'm here to become that I have to give my attention to this.
I have to see what's on the other side of this thing. And that is where you have those instances where there's so much more sacrifice time spent so much more dedication to the process of it all that I think a lot of people don't understand that.
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I get questioned a lot of times just from people that know me like on a day to day and they'll say like they'll hear all about oh you do the music you do this you do that cool.
That's great. That's amazing. And then they'll say so what do you do for work and very you know that's a very reasonable question in most cases.
But when they hear that it's like this is it this is what I do this is my job this is my career. It's like oh really like how does that work you know because I don't see you on billboards and I don't see you you know packing out arenas so how is this your job.
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Not understanding that there are so many layers and levels and that is like a mainstream signed super famous superstar artist is backed with such other support and entities behind them that what you see is pretty much controlled by so many other people and entities where as an independent artist which I am.
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Does all of that on their own so I don't necessarily have the financial backing I don't have the the business partnerships and relationships in that way on that scale I should say because I do have partnerships I do have different things that that I do have access to to help push my career further.
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But it's all to get through that process of journey for what is for you and what you believe your call to do and so I think those that do not do anything in the arts that are not creative sometimes it could be friends it could be family they just don't understand they really can't comprehend because they get up and they have their job and I said this before if you are an artist and you have a job that is totally fine that is nothing to be ashamed of it doesn't make you less passionate doesn't make you less focus.
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You're doing what you have to do for you some people are supposed to do it that way and others are meant to do it completely 100% full time whatever.
So with that it does cause you to be separate a lot and I know in my experience especially now it wasn't so much starting off because it was just kind of a different time.
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But as I've gotten older and really my mind shifted in certain space and getting to a place of being clear about what I'm supposed to do in my purpose it does cause you to miss out on something something you don't show up for because it's like I got to work I got to you know I'm on tour I have a show I have this I got to finish this project and all that kind of stuff and there is there is room to absolutely figure out.
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Figure out how to make it work for where you are absolutely there is space for that but you have to find out what it is and sometimes there is a season there is a time span where you just can't do what everyone is expecting you to do what everyone would prefer for you to do because you are in a level of focus you are in a level of productivity that causes you to be away and it's hard when friends can be there.
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Friends, family, people are close to you don't understand that or don't respect it because it's almost like well you you could just not do it like just don't go just don't do the thing not understanding that like yeah I don't have the luxury of just dropping this just like you get up and you go to work every day you can't just not go just because you don't feel like it like you could but there maybe some consequences underlying in that and in the creative space when you're a full-time artist look there is no such thing.
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I can't just take I can't call nobody to call off like I just have to take a loss if there is something happening on that day and you know I feel like I have to do it I have to actually take a hit because there is no such thing is calling off or not doing it or whatever.
So there is a luxury there that we are not afforded because it does fall completely on us so for me in my experience I've had to learn how to balance like to really put my calendar in a place where I'm putting things on my calendar that are you know social or familiar to be able to do things with family and that sort of thing to still feed my humanity still feed my family.
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I still feed my soul in a way that I can spend time with loved ones because you do need that support you want to be able to take time away from what you do and be able to spend time with those people that don't require anything of you but for you to be who you are and they don't expect you to sing a song or you know perform or be on in that way.
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And so that's refreshing and that's helpful to like rejuvenate but that can't always happen also and so I think that I'll speak on behalf of some creatives and you walk in chime in and tell me if I am being if I'm inaccurate or if you don't agree but I would say that if a person is creative or they have you know some type of creative gift and they are working that out and they're passionate about it and they're doing their thing.
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And they make time to show up to your whatever it is dinner barbeque birthday whatever I would say chairs that and appreciate that because that came with some extreme sacrifice that you have no idea about that came with some extreme measures to make that happen because being in this space is a 24/7
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your brain doesn't turn off like you have to you have to just find a way to like not allow your thoughts to be intrusive to the point that you never rest or you know relax or whatever the case may be but at any given time you can sit as long as you are clear and you are you know mindful of like your mental health and that sort of thing.
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The thoughts the ideas they'll come they're always there you just have to be in a place where you can hear and you can receive and you can go for it so because of that when a person makes time for you and they are in that field of creativity and that sort of thing it did take some maneuvering and some things had to happen to get them in that space because like I said they're never off.
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In their mind is always something happening in there so it's like making a conscious decision to say okay well today I'm not doing this I'm going to go spend time with this person or or do that so if you have someone in your life that you know you know has that lifestyle and they are in that artistic space and you know you see them consistently doing things they're doing events or interviews or whatever the case may be and they show up for something that you have going on take that seriously because
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they could be they could be doing something in their their creative passion for a purpose you know could really be working on something or they could you know be planning and seizing opportunities and all that stuff but instead they're spending time with you so cherish that and on the counter if someone in your life is a creative person and they cannot be at something
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give them grace and don't make them or don't project the frustration on to them now if they are just flagrants and they don't ever show up for nothing they're never to be found they're always disconnected and all that kind of stuff and that's that might be a deeper conversation but if they're trying their best to try to reach their goals and achieve these different dreams they have and they just can't make something
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don't hold it against them as a person maybe meet them where they are and say hey are you you know you're in a studio today that's what you working on okay cool what can I do or how can I spend time with you even though you're in this busy space what can you do it it might be like a face time call it might be you know something quick or you know
a conversation or something like that but whatever they can whatever you're able to offer maybe it's something that can help them you know be more available to you so that's just a little tidbit of wisdom I would say because that's something that I know for me is helpful because it's like when people just assume like oh my god you of course you did see the you know or kind of get a little bit of an attitude about the
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fact that I may not be available for something it's it doesn't always feel good because it's like man you have no idea like how hard I'm fighting for this thing that I see that you can't see but I know is there and I have to reach this thing so I would say be a little bit more kind so I guess this is kind of turning into partially not just the perspective of what a creative person you know
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goes through but also as one that is connected to someone who is that way being able to give them grace and come and show compassion for where they are to be able to execute and be able to treat them you know a certain way so that they can be successful because no matter how talented gifted whatever you want to call it a person is if they're not going to be a little bit more kind of a person that is not the right way to do it.
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If they don't feel affirmation and support from the people that know them best it can be devastating it can be debilitating and it can be really hard and if you believe in your person of you know whatever creative discipline if you believe in them for real then you would want them to succeed in what they do and the way that they succeed is a huge part of that because some people have to do it without
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if I am honest over the years my level or my support resources have gone down a whole lot you know life happening people not understanding or not wanting to understand you know causes different rifts and separations and things like that.
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and honestly while I get back to that point but because of that I say that when it comes to things that I do even now it's hard because it's like if it feels it's so encouraging to you know go to a show and see someone that you know that has someone has your number that knows you and it's like they're rooting for you that is like chef's kiss top tier and it's also extremely discouraging for people that you know
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know what you're going through and they just refuse to show up and that doesn't necessarily mean showing up in physical person but just they don't acknowledge they don't you know all that kind of stuff so saying all that to say that it really really does help and it really really does encourage your fellow will not your fellow but the person in your life that is artist creative person it encourages them in a way that you will never understand
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or never really really know like how deeply how many times creative spend time by themselves and for real y'all like if you're out there you're listening share your thoughts because I don't want to speak for anybody but I also know that I'm not I'm not wrong but how many times the creative person is you know to themselves in in the quiet moment struggling to start again to do more to press themselves and to continue
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and how much more helpful it would be for someone that they know loves them to call them and say hey what's going on with what you're working on what's new do you need support is there any where I can help you you know or just simply tell them hey keep going I believe what you're doing is amazing you know all of that so all of these things help
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you know just in case you would like to know you know if you have someone in your life but getting back to the root of the question that doc junior posted
the or the statement I should say it's definitely we want to be around and we want to be present but we just can't always do that and sometimes when things get in
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it's a good thing like if things are picking up and progressing then that means there's less availability that you have but you are still you know reaching your dream
so that's for that's to be celebrated and that's something that if you have loved ones in your life they can benefit from that not just financially y'all don't be trying to push your creative people in your life to
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success or that you can hold something you know I'm saying but I mean as far as them being able to offer something to the world that everyone can get something from like that's that's a huge deal so being supportive of that is very very
very very essential and very very helpful and I believe that we should all we could all stand to be a little bit more compassionate about the things that people doing their every day life because you just don't know what it takes for them to get to that place of you may think that they are like full of confidence and they might be struggling or you may feel like they got it all together
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and they're just really trying to navigate I was speaking with someone recently and I was just saying like you know just like you get to plot you get to go to work and do your job whatever your your nine to five career is let's say if it's not artistic thing you show up for work when you don't feel the best you may not physically feel well you may have stuff going on in your personal life
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and you could be stressed out anxious all that but at the end of the day you got to go clock in for work because you have to like provide for yourself and your family so unless you have the pto to to take off but you have to use that lightly because you know it runs out and all of that so you have to do what you have to do basically in your in that space
so just like you do also as creative individuals we have to do we have to do too so yes you see me at a show singing and smiling and all of that I'm at work I don't get to necessarily just fall apart
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now there is some some levels of vulnerability that does help the creative process to come out but there is also some responsibility in that too like you can't show up to every show you screaming and crying and you just complaining about your life after a while people like yeah I don't know she be a little unhinged you know and I know that there's a culture that's a whole not a conversation but there's a culture of you know these highly emotional depressed you know
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mentally unstable people that create and they get praised for it because we're all like feeding into this this traumatic state this person is in and you know they're capitalizing off it but after a while no matter who you are like there's going to become an irrationality that comes from that so you have to learn how to take care of your business at the same time
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so I'm saying that to say that just because you see an artistic person thriving doesn't mean that they are not having a hard time in their own everyday life they're gifted so the gift is there regardless of whether or not they are having a good day on their own they may get off stage and have to go take care of some really heavy business in their life in their family or whatever and you would never know unless they told you
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don't assume that just because someone shows up and they thrive in their gift that everything is just amazing with them in their life is great they don't need no support they don't need check ins nothing like that because look at how good they sang look at how beautiful that painting is and all that so grace grace is the is the point of it all to say that but also give grace to your artistic creative person in your life
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and to the person that is creative make sure that you are doing the best that you can to be as accessible and available to those that are supposed to receive from you in that way as you can because sometimes we can also get so wrapped up in our schedule and being productive that we're not even thinking about like I didn't even thought about so and so or you know mother father brothers sister friend whatever I didn't even think about it because I got pissed on this but I try
(31:52):
very hard to like unplug decompress and then find myself in spaces and if I'm not around you know for extensive amounts of time there could be just because I'm trying to to deal with life at the same time
and so you know I think it's just a matter of giving grace meaning don't always assume the worst don't always define somebody to be this terrible whatever because they didn't show up for something
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you don't know what they're going through what they're dealing with and what they're processing through and especially when it comes to us creators like we are literally trying to create something that we can't see we can't express necessarily
we can't necessarily articulate it's just like we know we know and we get it out and we're pushing for something that we see off in the distance and we don't know how we're going to get there
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what doubts are going to connect we have to fall so many times we have to hear no so many times we have to be ignored so many times and that can drain a person from the constant disappointments and the constant rejections and all of that kind of stuff
there's a lot going on in that process and then you creating something and you get stuck or you think it's good and then you put it out there and it doesn't get the response that you think that it deserves and so you get discouraged and you're questioning yourself and so a much stuff
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so much stuff so all all in all there are reasons why we can pull up every day because we we have something going on and we are striving for something bigger than ourselves
and sometimes it takes a little bit more energy hours time focus consideration and sometimes we just drain sometimes we poured all of that stuff out we've given all of that stuff in our body needs to literally decompress from what we have just gave from our soul
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like it's a lot I know when I do live shows I got to get quiet and still in a way you know after the fact sometimes I just got to eat
because I be hungry because I don't really eat it's that's the thing like I'll be so not stressed out sometimes I do but sometimes anxiety is so high the adrenaline is so high it's like you don't have time to eat or anything you're just trying to get through to the project
(34:15):
the performance or whatever and then you could focus on you later so yeah it's a whole thing sometimes for me a lot of times it's all it's initially for sure it's about
the people that are going to receive from what I have it's about me last I do have to work on making that a little bit more reasonable because when I say I put myself all the way on the back burner and focus completely solely on the people that are going to receive to the point where it's like okay I could probably give myself a little bit room
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I could bring myself a little bit close to the front but that's something that I'm working out right now but all in all I think it's about grace and it's about being able to a lot of people will say balance
I hear you on the concept of balance but I would challenge you to have a different perspective this is something that I actually heard from one of my I might have said this before on a previous episode
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I think I may have but I'm a reiterate because it's really a good point and it helps me all the time and I heard this from one of my pastor friends that I follow and so the concept is not to have balance but to have harmony because when you think about balance it's just like two things that are on the same level
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versus harmony where one entity does it's part the other entity does it's part and together they have this cohesive beauty that goes so well together
and I think that I would rather live my life seeking out the things or positioning myself to have harmony among things versus just balance
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because balance sometimes can be without intention it's just like here I got to do this so here you got to do that here we go versus like let's see how this can fit in here
and let's see how we can make this flow and what it can become when we put it together that kind of thing
so living a life of harmony is the goal for me and maybe that's something that encourages you as well but just taking those moments and focusing in on how to make the most out of this journey
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giving yourself grace when you can't be everywhere and do everything and again for those that know people that are in this space giving them grace and showing them love and compassion
and even asking like hey I know you're working on this what do you need or can you just tell me more about what you're doing so I can understand where you are
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and what you have to go through so that you can have a level of compassion for what it is that they do so
that's what I think about that and thank you to @Dajunia on Instagram he is an amazing musician and producer so y'all can check him out
I'm literally just like these are comments that are on my page so I wanted to shout out those that have responded I do have more and I will definitely tap into those maybe maybe next episode just to knock out the rest of those so we can
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we'll do more questions answers feedback on other episodes but this particular topic I wanted to share some of these perspectives because it's interesting to see what things people deal with
and where they may be similar where they're totally different but all analogous knowing that there are different struggles and things that we go through as creative people that people have no idea about
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piece out all of the good things and remember that as you journey on I don't care what you doing live what your career path is find the harmony in the thing when you have the harmony find what what comes beautifully together and allows you to do what you do in a beautiful way that makes sense to what it is that you do so balance is cool
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harmony it hits a little bit differently and give grace to those that are trying to achieve something that you don't understand and make room for those that you know that you need in your life to help you to stay encouraged to keep doing what you do cool beans alright until next time
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What's up, family, creative and process, people out there in the world on the internet,
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What's going on? My name is Neal Land, if you are new here,
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We are digging into some more stuff today, and I'm excited to be here to talk to you,
I hope that you have been having an amazing season.
I'm navigating through a really crazy schedule in life, and both business and personal,
and just that sort of thing, but I have dedicated to this podcast project,
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and I'm seeing your comments and all that kind of stuff.
I'm really excited for the voice comments that are on the website,
so please check that out, go to creativeandprocess.com,
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it could be feedback or whatever, something that can be included on future episodes,
so please take advantage of the technology and the fanciness,
I would love to hear that, but in the meantime,
we are going to have a conversation that is derived from your perspective and the things that you have to say.
About when I was building up the podcast and getting ready for it, I posed a question,
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I did some little teases here and there, you all didn't even know it was going on,
but I posed a few questions and got some feedback in the comments, right?
So today, I'm going to go back to one of those questions and just read some of the commentary that's on there.
I haven't looked at it in a while, so I don't remember what always in the comments,
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I know that there was some good stuff in there, so I'm not going,
I'm intentionally waiting to do it within this podcast,
I didn't want to be too super prepared, or like, you know, overthink,
and get it, whatever the case may be.
So, we're going to jump right in and get to it.
This particular question is posed for my creative artistic people.
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However, I do know that the responses are going to be for everybody just because there are different ways to get perspective,
regardless of whether or not you're in a particular field,
I think you can gain and glean wisdom from lots of different things,
even if you're not directly involved with the theme of a thing.
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I'm going to jump right into this question that I posed,
and I'm going to see what the comments said,
and I'm just going to pick a good one,
and we're going to make that our topic for today.
If that's cool, say that's cool.
Cool, all right, here we go.
So the question was, for my artistic folks,
what topic needs to be more of a conversation as it relates to what it takes to be a creative person?
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I seriously want to know your thoughts, all creative people, that's the stress.
So that was the question I was posing to elaborate on what the point of the question was.
It was to say in the journey of being an artistic creative person,
what is something that comes up in your life,
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whether it be from the business side, the creative side,
or just everyday life, something that people don't necessarily understand,
that's not talked about that doesn't seem to be at the forefront of conversations in that sort of thing.
And because I am very much about the holistic situation,
like I am an artist, I do create, I do all the technical business things,
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I am also very much aware of the fact that creative individuals in the artistic field
have a certain wiring and the way that we think the things that we go through,
not to say that we are just so completely different,
but we're wired in a way that may be something that happens in the life of someone that is an artistic,
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it can happen a certain way in garners, certain responses, and things like that,
whereas if it happens to a person as artistic, it might just hit in a different way,
and there may be some type of different consideration to be taken so that you don't assume that everyone responds,
or should respond to something a certain way, because artistic people sometimes,
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we think we are a different part of our brain, so things come out differently.
That was the question, I was kind of buffering it and giving you a little more context,
so I'm jumping to comments right now in C, which one we're going to pool for the topic for today,
so I haven't looked at these in a while, but I remember them being really really good,
so let me see what we can touch on, and where we can go,
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I'm literally scrolling right now, you all can't see me doing that,
but I have quite a bit of them, and I feel like I'm going to try to tap into at least two of them today,
and see where we can go from there, so I'll just go in order,
because maybe that'll make more sense that way.
So, I have one from @DocJunia on Instagram,
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and one of the things that he says is maybe a concept or a conversation that's not really being had is,
let's see, oh sorry, he did it too part or here.
Sometimes when we interact with people who aren't creative,
we feel socially awkward, so I could touch on that a little bit,
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and there is some truth to that in some degrees, because I feel like when we walk into a room in a situation,
it's so easy to talk about the artistic side and the creative thing,
and there's two caveats to that.
It can be socially awkward when you go into a room and nobody understands where you're coming from.
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It's hard, and sometimes being in a room full of creative,
sometimes it can be overwhelming because there's just so many layers and levels,
but I think for me, I have found such a refreshing,
it's been such a refreshing place to walk into a room with people who maybe they don't do the exact same thing that you do,
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but they are intrigued enough to just ask qualifying questions,
because me as an individual period, one way to get information out of me is to ask me a question,
because there is so much going on in my brain that just asking an open question,
like how are you, what do you do, you know, those kinds of things?
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That is too much for me, like I need you to be specific, like,
oh, you work in music, what kind of music do you do?
What's your day to day, you know, breaking down that,
or if we've talked before circling back, like hey, last time we spoke, you're working on this.
How is that going?
That's where I can thrive.
It is very, it is like impossible for me to just start from scratch in any conversation.
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Like I can give you a little bit, but I'm going to need some follow-up questions,
because I'm going to think that maybe you don't get what I'm saying,
or maybe I'm saying too much because there is so much going on in my brain,
and the one that is so much happening is very hard for me to articulate in a moment everything.
And so I feel like I wonder if they're even listening to me,
I wonder if I'm talking too much for if I sound like I'm rambling,
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or if I'm not clear in all that kind of stuff.
So I will say to that point, it can be socially awkward to walk into rooms
and have certain conversations, because I can go on and on and on
about the artistic creative stuff, what I'm doing, what I'm working on.
But at the core, I'm very much a person too.
And I have other thoughts about other things that's not necessarily creative related.
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So finding that space to have conversations and socialize and all of that stuff,
and it not just be about the music, because a lot of times, you know,
and it's not a bad thing, but people are intrigued by what you do.
And so they want to ask a lot of questions and they want to know so much about it,
but in certain situations, maybe you don't want to talk about that as much.
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Like if there's like something specific happening,
you're at an event that is centered around what you do, then cool,
but sometimes it's like, yeah, I do all of that, but right now,
I'm just trying to just be, you know, not trying to be on in that creative way.
So it can make for some awkward conversations, but I am very much interested in all sorts of things.
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And even if I don't do what you do, or I can't relate to like your lifestyle or whatever,
I do like asking questions because I'm just intrigued by how people live their lives,
outside of what's normal to me.
So I always like to, you know, inquire and ask questions.
So a lot of times people say like, man, that's a good question you ask.
And or like, man, you're really getting in depth into what it is that I do.
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Do you do this or do you know someone that does this?
And I'll be like, no, I don't.
I just am very interested in what other people are passionate about,
even if I don't understand it, even if I don't do it,
I can take my mind, can go to that place of just really internalizing what is special to other people.
So I like to have conversations about certain things and just ask stuff,
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not because I'm necessarily trying to pursue it or take it on,
but just because it's something else.
So I think that we're all gifted with different passions and talents and gifts and all of that kind of stuff.
And so for me, it's interesting to see kind of like, what God put in somebody else like, well, how is your,
how is your wiring?
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Because I know what my wiring looks like.
How is yours?
That's one aspect of that thing.
So I'll do the part two of his statement and it is he saying that being a creative makes it.
So this time speaking, I can't spend time with my family in the way that I want to sadly neglect,
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come with being great at what we do.
I hope we all get the balance we desire.
That is a whole other level of conversation for sure because there is,
oh, yeah, I think this is what's going to take us through to the end here because he's saying something really,
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really, really, really deep in that space because as a artistic creative person,
especially one that kind of has laid it all out there, put it all on the line, sacrificed to pursue this thing,
it can be extremely isolating, not because you want to be, but just because there is a focus that you have
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that a lot of people don't understand.
And I would was kind of first starting out and you know, doing things and building up my music, writing songs,
doing shows and things like that.
People were so like, they couldn't understand like, well, why don't you just go on American Idol?
And if that is it, like, that's it.
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That's all you have to do to be like famous or whatever, get a record deal, go on American Idol.
And there are so many layers and levels to it that it's like, yeah, no, it doesn't just work like that.
First of all, you have to get selected like that.
May or may not choose you and it's voter base.
So if someone decides they don't like your hair and they don't want to vote for you, you're not going to succeed.
So all those different things and there is a level.
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I will say that there are creative people in the artistic realm from my experience because you know, I don't know everything.
But I definitely have seen this time and time again.
There are different types of people in that space. You have those that do it because it's hobby.
It's something they just like to do.
It's interesting to them. It kind of helps them to give their brain room to do other things outside of whatever their normal day to day is.
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Then you have those that are a little bit more serious about it, but they still have other things that they do that take priority.
And that's cool too. It could be like a full time job or whatever the case may be.
And then there are those who I believe have a level of understanding that you know, this is such a huge part of what I'm here to do.
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What I'm purpose to do. What I'm here to become that I have to give my attention to this.
I have to see what's on the other side of this thing. And that is where you have those instances where there's so much more sacrifice time spent so much more dedication to the process of it all that I think a lot of people don't understand that.
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I get questioned a lot of times just from people that know me like on a day to day and they'll say like they'll hear all about oh you do the music you do this you do that cool.
That's great. That's amazing. And then they'll say so what do you do for work and very you know that's a very reasonable question in most cases.
But when they hear that it's like this is it this is what I do this is my job this is my career. It's like oh really like how does that work you know because I don't see you on billboards and I don't see you you know packing out arenas so how is this your job.
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Not understanding that there are so many layers and levels and that is like a mainstream signed super famous superstar artist is backed with such other support and entities behind them that what you see is pretty much controlled by so many other people and entities where as an independent artist which I am.
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Does all of that on their own so I don't necessarily have the financial backing I don't have the the business partnerships and relationships in that way on that scale I should say because I do have partnerships I do have different things that that I do have access to to help push my career further.
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But it's all to get through that process of journey for what is for you and what you believe your call to do and so I think those that do not do anything in the arts that are not creative sometimes it could be friends it could be family they just don't understand they really can't comprehend because they get up and they have their job and I said this before if you are an artist and you have a job that is totally fine that is nothing to be ashamed of it doesn't make you less passionate doesn't make you less focus.
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You're doing what you have to do for you some people are supposed to do it that way and others are meant to do it completely 100% full time whatever.
So with that it does cause you to be separate a lot and I know in my experience especially now it wasn't so much starting off because it was just kind of a different time.
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But as I've gotten older and really my mind shifted in certain space and getting to a place of being clear about what I'm supposed to do in my purpose it does cause you to miss out on something something you don't show up for because it's like I got to work I got to you know I'm on tour I have a show I have this I got to finish this project and all that kind of stuff and there is there is room to absolutely figure out.
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Figure out how to make it work for where you are absolutely there is space for that but you have to find out what it is and sometimes there is a season there is a time span where you just can't do what everyone is expecting you to do what everyone would prefer for you to do because you are in a level of focus you are in a level of productivity that causes you to be away and it's hard when friends can be there.
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Friends, family, people are close to you don't understand that or don't respect it because it's almost like well you you could just not do it like just don't go just don't do the thing not understanding that like yeah I don't have the luxury of just dropping this just like you get up and you go to work every day you can't just not go just because you don't feel like it like you could but there maybe some consequences underlying in that and in the creative space when you're a full-time artist look there is no such thing.
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I can't just take I can't call nobody to call off like I just have to take a loss if there is something happening on that day and you know I feel like I have to do it I have to actually take a hit because there is no such thing is calling off or not doing it or whatever.
So there is a luxury there that we are not afforded because it does fall completely on us so for me in my experience I've had to learn how to balance like to really put my calendar in a place where I'm putting things on my calendar that are you know social or familiar to be able to do things with family and that sort of thing to still feed my humanity still feed my family.
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I still feed my soul in a way that I can spend time with loved ones because you do need that support you want to be able to take time away from what you do and be able to spend time with those people that don't require anything of you but for you to be who you are and they don't expect you to sing a song or you know perform or be on in that way.
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And so that's refreshing and that's helpful to like rejuvenate but that can't always happen also and so I think that I'll speak on behalf of some creatives and you walk in chime in and tell me if I am being if I'm inaccurate or if you don't agree but I would say that if a person is creative or they have you know some type of creative gift and they are working that out and they're passionate about it and they're doing their thing.
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And they make time to show up to your whatever it is dinner barbeque birthday whatever I would say chairs that and appreciate that because that came with some extreme sacrifice that you have no idea about that came with some extreme measures to make that happen because being in this space is a 24/7
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your brain doesn't turn off like you have to you have to just find a way to like not allow your thoughts to be intrusive to the point that you never rest or you know relax or whatever the case may be but at any given time you can sit as long as you are clear and you are you know mindful of like your mental health and that sort of thing.
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The thoughts the ideas they'll come they're always there you just have to be in a place where you can hear and you can receive and you can go for it so because of that when a person makes time for you and they are in that field of creativity and that sort of thing it did take some maneuvering and some things had to happen to get them in that space because like I said they're never off.
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In their mind is always something happening in there so it's like making a conscious decision to say okay well today I'm not doing this I'm going to go spend time with this person or or do that so if you have someone in your life that you know you know has that lifestyle and they are in that artistic space and you know you see them consistently doing things they're doing events or interviews or whatever the case may be and they show up for something that you have going on take that seriously because
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they could be they could be doing something in their their creative passion for a purpose you know could really be working on something or they could you know be planning and seizing opportunities and all that stuff but instead they're spending time with you so cherish that and on the counter if someone in your life is a creative person and they cannot be at something
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give them grace and don't make them or don't project the frustration on to them now if they are just flagrants and they don't ever show up for nothing they're never to be found they're always disconnected and all that kind of stuff and that's that might be a deeper conversation but if they're trying their best to try to reach their goals and achieve these different dreams they have and they just can't make something
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don't hold it against them as a person maybe meet them where they are and say hey are you you know you're in a studio today that's what you working on okay cool what can I do or how can I spend time with you even though you're in this busy space what can you do it it might be like a face time call it might be you know something quick or you know
a conversation or something like that but whatever they can whatever you're able to offer maybe it's something that can help them you know be more available to you so that's just a little tidbit of wisdom I would say because that's something that I know for me is helpful because it's like when people just assume like oh my god you of course you did see the you know or kind of get a little bit of an attitude about the
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fact that I may not be available for something it's it doesn't always feel good because it's like man you have no idea like how hard I'm fighting for this thing that I see that you can't see but I know is there and I have to reach this thing so I would say be a little bit more kind so I guess this is kind of turning into partially not just the perspective of what a creative person you know
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goes through but also as one that is connected to someone who is that way being able to give them grace and come and show compassion for where they are to be able to execute and be able to treat them you know a certain way so that they can be successful because no matter how talented gifted whatever you want to call it a person is if they're not going to be a little bit more kind of a person that is not the right way to do it.
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If they don't feel affirmation and support from the people that know them best it can be devastating it can be debilitating and it can be really hard and if you believe in your person of you know whatever creative discipline if you believe in them for real then you would want them to succeed in what they do and the way that they succeed is a huge part of that because some people have to do it without
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if I am honest over the years my level or my support resources have gone down a whole lot you know life happening people not understanding or not wanting to understand you know causes different rifts and separations and things like that.
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and honestly while I get back to that point but because of that I say that when it comes to things that I do even now it's hard because it's like if it feels it's so encouraging to you know go to a show and see someone that you know that has someone has your number that knows you and it's like they're rooting for you that is like chef's kiss top tier and it's also extremely discouraging for people that you know
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know what you're going through and they just refuse to show up and that doesn't necessarily mean showing up in physical person but just they don't acknowledge they don't you know all that kind of stuff so saying all that to say that it really really does help and it really really does encourage your fellow will not your fellow but the person in your life that is artist creative person it encourages them in a way that you will never understand
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or never really really know like how deeply how many times creative spend time by themselves and for real y'all like if you're out there you're listening share your thoughts because I don't want to speak for anybody but I also know that I'm not I'm not wrong but how many times the creative person is you know to themselves in in the quiet moment struggling to start again to do more to press themselves and to continue
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and how much more helpful it would be for someone that they know loves them to call them and say hey what's going on with what you're working on what's new do you need support is there any where I can help you you know or just simply tell them hey keep going I believe what you're doing is amazing you know all of that so all of these things help
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you know just in case you would like to know you know if you have someone in your life but getting back to the root of the question that doc junior posted
the or the statement I should say it's definitely we want to be around and we want to be present but we just can't always do that and sometimes when things get in
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it's a good thing like if things are picking up and progressing then that means there's less availability that you have but you are still you know reaching your dream
so that's for that's to be celebrated and that's something that if you have loved ones in your life they can benefit from that not just financially y'all don't be trying to push your creative people in your life to
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success or that you can hold something you know I'm saying but I mean as far as them being able to offer something to the world that everyone can get something from like that's that's a huge deal so being supportive of that is very very
very very essential and very very helpful and I believe that we should all we could all stand to be a little bit more compassionate about the things that people doing their every day life because you just don't know what it takes for them to get to that place of you may think that they are like full of confidence and they might be struggling or you may feel like they got it all together
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and they're just really trying to navigate I was speaking with someone recently and I was just saying like you know just like you get to plot you get to go to work and do your job whatever your your nine to five career is let's say if it's not artistic thing you show up for work when you don't feel the best you may not physically feel well you may have stuff going on in your personal life
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and you could be stressed out anxious all that but at the end of the day you got to go clock in for work because you have to like provide for yourself and your family so unless you have the pto to to take off but you have to use that lightly because you know it runs out and all of that so you have to do what you have to do basically in your in that space
so just like you do also as creative individuals we have to do we have to do too so yes you see me at a show singing and smiling and all of that I'm at work I don't get to necessarily just fall apart
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now there is some some levels of vulnerability that does help the creative process to come out but there is also some responsibility in that too like you can't show up to every show you screaming and crying and you just complaining about your life after a while people like yeah I don't know she be a little unhinged you know and I know that there's a culture that's a whole not a conversation but there's a culture of you know these highly emotional depressed you know
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mentally unstable people that create and they get praised for it because we're all like feeding into this this traumatic state this person is in and you know they're capitalizing off it but after a while no matter who you are like there's going to become an irrationality that comes from that so you have to learn how to take care of your business at the same time
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so I'm saying that to say that just because you see an artistic person thriving doesn't mean that they are not having a hard time in their own everyday life they're gifted so the gift is there regardless of whether or not they are having a good day on their own they may get off stage and have to go take care of some really heavy business in their life in their family or whatever and you would never know unless they told you
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don't assume that just because someone shows up and they thrive in their gift that everything is just amazing with them in their life is great they don't need no support they don't need check ins nothing like that because look at how good they sang look at how beautiful that painting is and all that so grace grace is the is the point of it all to say that but also give grace to your artistic creative person in your life
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and to the person that is creative make sure that you are doing the best that you can to be as accessible and available to those that are supposed to receive from you in that way as you can because sometimes we can also get so wrapped up in our schedule and being productive that we're not even thinking about like I didn't even thought about so and so or you know mother father brothers sister friend whatever I didn't even think about it because I got pissed on this but I try
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very hard to like unplug decompress and then find myself in spaces and if I'm not around you know for extensive amounts of time there could be just because I'm trying to to deal with life at the same time
and so you know I think it's just a matter of giving grace meaning don't always assume the worst don't always define somebody to be this terrible whatever because they didn't show up for something
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you don't know what they're going through what they're dealing with and what they're processing through and especially when it comes to us creators like we are literally trying to create something that we can't see we can't express necessarily
we can't necessarily articulate it's just like we know we know and we get it out and we're pushing for something that we see off in the distance and we don't know how we're going to get there
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what doubts are going to connect we have to fall so many times we have to hear no so many times we have to be ignored so many times and that can drain a person from the constant disappointments and the constant rejections and all of that kind of stuff
there's a lot going on in that process and then you creating something and you get stuck or you think it's good and then you put it out there and it doesn't get the response that you think that it deserves and so you get discouraged and you're questioning yourself and so a much stuff
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so much stuff so all all in all there are reasons why we can pull up every day because we we have something going on and we are striving for something bigger than ourselves
and sometimes it takes a little bit more energy hours time focus consideration and sometimes we just drain sometimes we poured all of that stuff out we've given all of that stuff in our body needs to literally decompress from what we have just gave from our soul
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like it's a lot I know when I do live shows I got to get quiet and still in a way you know after the fact sometimes I just got to eat
because I be hungry because I don't really eat it's that's the thing like I'll be so not stressed out sometimes I do but sometimes anxiety is so high the adrenaline is so high it's like you don't have time to eat or anything you're just trying to get through to the project
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the performance or whatever and then you could focus on you later so yeah it's a whole thing sometimes for me a lot of times it's all it's initially for sure it's about
the people that are going to receive from what I have it's about me last I do have to work on making that a little bit more reasonable because when I say I put myself all the way on the back burner and focus completely solely on the people that are going to receive to the point where it's like okay I could probably give myself a little bit room
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I could bring myself a little bit close to the front but that's something that I'm working out right now but all in all I think it's about grace and it's about being able to a lot of people will say balance
I hear you on the concept of balance but I would challenge you to have a different perspective this is something that I actually heard from one of my I might have said this before on a previous episode
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I think I may have but I'm a reiterate because it's really a good point and it helps me all the time and I heard this from one of my pastor friends that I follow and so the concept is not to have balance but to have harmony because when you think about balance it's just like two things that are on the same level
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versus harmony where one entity does it's part the other entity does it's part and together they have this cohesive beauty that goes so well together
and I think that I would rather live my life seeking out the things or positioning myself to have harmony among things versus just balance
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because balance sometimes can be without intention it's just like here I got to do this so here you got to do that here we go versus like let's see how this can fit in here
and let's see how we can make this flow and what it can become when we put it together that kind of thing
so living a life of harmony is the goal for me and maybe that's something that encourages you as well but just taking those moments and focusing in on how to make the most out of this journey
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giving yourself grace when you can't be everywhere and do everything and again for those that know people that are in this space giving them grace and showing them love and compassion
and even asking like hey I know you're working on this what do you need or can you just tell me more about what you're doing so I can understand where you are
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and what you have to go through so that you can have a level of compassion for what it is that they do so
that's what I think about that and thank you to @Dajunia on Instagram he is an amazing musician and producer so y'all can check him out
I'm literally just like these are comments that are on my page so I wanted to shout out those that have responded I do have more and I will definitely tap into those maybe maybe next episode just to knock out the rest of those so we can
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we'll do more questions answers feedback on other episodes but this particular topic I wanted to share some of these perspectives because it's interesting to see what things people deal with
and where they may be similar where they're totally different but all analogous knowing that there are different struggles and things that we go through as creative people that people have no idea about
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we are going thank you for adjusting with me if you have been following along I'm playing with some different formats and segments and that sort of thing to try to see what's going to be the best fit for as we go for it to see what you all gravitate to and what you like so that's where we at and I can't wait to speak to you again on the next episode
piece out all of the good things and remember that as you journey on I don't care what you doing live what your career path is find the harmony in the thing when you have the harmony find what what comes beautifully together and allows you to do what you do in a beautiful way that makes sense to what it is that you do so balance is cool
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harmony it hits a little bit differently and give grace to those that are trying to achieve something that you don't understand and make room for those that you know that you need in your life to help you to stay encouraged to keep doing what you do cool beans alright until next time
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