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Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well, good evening everybody. It's the Crypted Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
Thank you guys so much for being here. We are
going on the hunt for the Louisiana Bigfoot, were wolves
and the unseen cryptid encounters on the Bayou tonight and
I am so glad you guys are all here. I
hope y'all had a wonderful week. My gosh, we had
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a week of fantastic shows, didn't we. And we are
having our weekend finale here of this week with our
good friend Mark Maychek aka Cryptidville, a longtime resident of
Kentucky and he lives not too far from the Land
between the Lakes, but he grew up down in Louisiana
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and that's where he had his first big foot encounter
and other crypt encounters. We're going to get into that
to night, and I cannot wait to hear about his
first big foot encounter and some other encounters as well.
We have a lot to discuss me and I've got
I got some questions for him. Every time I do
a show and I have a new guests on, it
just leaves me with more questions about the mysteries of cryptids.
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In the world. And so we'll talk to Mark about
some of those questions I have tonight and stuff. So
thank y'all so much for being here, like I said,
and thank you to all my moderators, and let's get
this show on the road, all right, y'all. I do
have an event coming up soon within another week or two.
I will be at the Molina Bigfoot Festival. So you
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guys please come see me if you are down in
Middle Georgia. Molina Bigfoot Fest it's one of the best
small town bigfoot festivals that occurs, especially in Georgia. And
so I will be speaking along with Tony Green. You
guys will remember Tony. He's one of my teammates and
he's been on the show a couple of times. He's
the one whose uncle ran behind the tree and came
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out the other side a dog and ran off in
the woods and then came back, went behind the tree
and then turned into a man again. Okay, so that's Tony.
Oh my gosh, that's funny. It had to being remembered
by having your uncle turned into a dog. Okay, that's wild.
But a shout out to Tony and all. So to
Angie Williamson. Thank you, Angie. She's one of my teammates
too on Seekers, and Angie's helping to organize that event.
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She'll be one of the speakers as well. And it's
gonna be a good time. There's a whole bunch of
people that are going to give firsthand testimony of their
big foot encounters down there in Molina where it is
the home of the Elkins Creek Bigfoot. All right, and
we've done a show on that. Hopefully I can get
Tina the city Clerk to come back on the show
before that event and have her come talk about the
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Elkins Creek Bigfoot again with us, and it's always fun. Okay. Also,
if you guys would like to check out my social
media links and everything, just go over to my website.
There's a calendar of events over there and you can
find all the information on me anything you need, all
my shows or of there on my website, as well
as my Patreon and my shop over on Etsy. Thank
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you so much for all your support. It means the
world to me. Okay, Well how about this, Let's get
to our show tonight and I'm gonna pull Mark up. Okay,
So tonight we are going on the Hunt with Kentucky
resident and longtime Land between the Lakes Area hunter and
cryptied field researcher mister Mark Maycheck to discuss his encounters
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with Bigfoot and other cryptids on the Louisiana by you.
From squatch to werewolves. What role do the dark arts
play in the conjuring of these beasts? We're gonna find
out tonight. Please help me. Welcome to the show tonight,
you guys, our good friend mister Mark Maycheck aka Crypto Bille.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Hey Mark, Hey Jessica, thank you for having me on again.
Cool and greetings. Greetings to the chat. I just want
to mention real quick that I cannot see the comments,
so just bear with me and if you have questions,
we'll try to get those answered for you.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, that's good, you know what. I kind of prefer
it sometimes when the guests can't see the chat, but.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It can be a little bit distracting going to moderate mode,
and I want to read every one of them. And
if you did that, you wouldn't I wouldn't have much
of a guest, would you.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh? Man, I know I love it. Thank you so much. Mark,
You are so sweet. You are one of You're one
of my moderators too, and I really do appreciate you.
You are constantly sticking links in there with all my
guests and stuff. So man, you you helped You helped
me out a ton, So so thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You're welcome, and so yeah, where do you want to start? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well, I want to start at the start? Okay? Well,
first of all, I have been Uh, I feel like
I talked about the Land between the Lakes every single
week and it may not be on air, but I've
got friends that are going out there, and you know,
it's just a constant LBLS on everybody's mind all the time.
And and I had my good buddy Greg Goguls came
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on the show Thursday night and we were talking about
the Land between the Lakes again a little little bit,
and he was talking about how he and this is
this is your stopping ground. And so he actually was
telling us about a portal that he saw open up
an the Land between the Lakes when they were orb watching.
He said that they were having an orb watching party
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basically out there, and uh, and I just wanted I
was going to ask you about that or just like
discuss it with you a little bit, because what do
you think about portals out there? We talked about it
last time you were out on the show, weren't didn't we?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, there there does seem to be behigh. And I
don't know how to define high, but I'm going to
use the word high. There is there does seem seems
to be a high number or higher occurrence of portals
in this area.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
L like me said, Mark, look at me, damn it? Yeah,
no comment up so you could see.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That Mark, no bike and you hooked in my eyes.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
We got jokes. We got jokes.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So but yeah, I think there's a there's a higher
occurrence of portals in this area. And uh, you know
there there probably is is a lot of there could
be could be because we don't know. There could be
different factors that go into or come into play with
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why there are a larger number of portals in this area.
You know, Historically you have reports that come out of
there that talk about you know, cult activity and stuff
like that, and you have would be want to be
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expert researchers that do things that may open portals and
not actually close them, you know, and those are things
that are kind of concerning because you know, you know,
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the big question is, you know, if you open the
portal and you don't close it, you know, what happens
to it at that point? Does it just stay there
and you know things are coming in and out of it?
It will? And I think those are things that people
should consider, especially if they're in the mindset that they're
gonna go over there and do something like that, because
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you know, you don't you don't necessarily know what realm
you're tapping into, and you don't necessarily know what's going
to come through and whether or not it's gonna, you know,
potentially take you into it. And then that's a whole
other thing if you get pulled into a portal, you know.
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I always like to reference that story that was in
the Rob Roy books in the Big Ticket, you know,
the guy that was hunting in It was winter and
it was cold, and he was walking along the trail
and he came upon this area that kind of shimmered
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and he walked into it not thinking that it was anything.
He just thought it was heat coming up off the ground.
And when he stepped through it, all of a sudden
he was in a very hot, humid rainforest environment and
he was like, whoa, something's you know, not right with this.
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So he started trying to back up, and he backed
up and he stepped back into his you know where
he was at out of the portal, and he was
standing there looking at the shimmer and he's, you know,
and he said that this the guy said that, this
big hairy arm reached through the portal and grabbed his
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jacket and he heard a voice that said, ah, I
got you. And he freaked out and he was trying
to get away from this thing and it was trying
to pull him through and the only way that he
said he was able to get away from it was
that he came out of his jacket, basically, is what
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it had to do in order to get because it
had such a grip on him. And you know, those
are things to keep in mind when you're initually dealing
with portals. You don't know what you're you don't know,
we don't know what we're dealing with with those things.
And you know, I don't think it's just limited to
cryptids or interdimensional beings. You know, it could be governmental
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factions that are using them or you know whatever. So
there's a lot of different things that come into play
with it, and then there's the whole, the whole thing
of And I just want to touch on this, you know,
as a something that people need to be concerned about
and think about, is you know, if governmental factions are
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using these things and they're doing things to alter our
perception in real time, you know, it could be them
and you could be thinking that it's something else and
you might not even be aware of it. So those
are things to keep in the back of your mind
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when you're when you're dealing with the concept of portals.
So yeah, that's my portals feel.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh yeah, well, you know, I thought it was interesting
because I actually right after I did the show with
Greg on Thursday, I watched his last documentary that he made,
the Cryptid Expeditions, and it was The Land between the
Lakes actually cool. And I have not yet been to
the Land between the Lakes, and let me tell you,
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watching that documentary made me want to go to the
Land between the Lakes like soon, okay, because they had
there was so much activity out there, There's a lot
going on and all the ice shine. It seemed to
be more what they were what they were getting seemed
to be more Bigfoot related. Mark as far as the
evidence went, I was, I would seeing more bigfoot and
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an orbs a lot of orbs out there too, and
stuff and uh and something that that Greg said, and
I can't disagree with it because it was like, well,
you know, he he believes that the bigfoots and the
cryptids out there can maybe turn into orbs and like
change their change turned into like a ball of energy
or something and changed their energetic field to like traverse
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the portals and stuff, and maybe they can't. I don't know.
I mean, it's it's the ongoing debate, so like what's
really happening out there with them? But but they got
some pretty good evidence out there they put in that documentary.
Kudos to Greg and his crew out there. But yeah,
it made me want to go out there, okay, mar Well,
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not not that your stories don't meet me already want
to go out there, okay, but but I got to
see it, you know, on the screen for the first time.
So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, I think that an important thing to consider with
that are these things that I'm going to mention here
in just a second. And you know, like you said,
kudos to Greg on his work on that documentary. I
have not seen it, and but I was. Actually it's
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it's after the fact, so I can talk about it.
But I was actually there at the base camp when
they were there filming, so I got to meet everybody,
and you know, didn't necessarily go to the locations that
they went to because I'm kind of a research purist.
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I don't like I don't like having the potential of
somebody thinking that I possibly did something to contaminate their
research spot, regardless of whether they you know, what they're doing. So,
you know, at the bare minimum, the only thing I
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knew they were doing was filming. I didn't know anything
outside of that. I didn't know if they were conducting
experiments or whatever, and you know, I just did not
want to, you know, contaminate it in any way, even
with perception. So but with that, I think it's important
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that we realized that, you know, with the whole concept
of orbs and these things possibly turning into orbs, you know,
it's kind of like, it's kind of like this, in
my opinion, I got to throw that in there. So
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you know, we know that everything, everything is frequency, energy
and vibration, irregardless of what it is. So if these
things have the ability to two real time hack or
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adjust their physical display to a person. You know. And
I know that's going kind of in a deep arena,
but it you know. I I guess I came up
with this thought because you know, you hear about people
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that you have this big group. They go into the woods.
Half of the group sees a bigfoot, the other half
season squirrel were iracular there, you know. And it comes
to the point where you ask the question, how does
that work? How does half of the people see a
big foot in half of them see something else? So
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it has to do in my opinion, with vibrational presentation.
They're presenting themselves as one thing to one part of
the group and something else to the other part that
may not be able to perceive that vibrational display. And
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that's just my opinion. I don't claim to be an
expert on anything excepting being aggravating.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You're an expert on that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I can't. Yeah, I have a tendency to be a
little bit a little bit aggravating.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
And you're the button pusher I can tell. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, I don't push buttons unless they need to be pushed.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, some people can't help. They see a red button,
they want to push it. Sometimes you just can't help
you god to push it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, so but yeah, you know, that's my opinion on
it as far as you know orbs and all that goes.
And and I you know, I hear people talk about,
you know, I'm gonna try this experiment. I'm gonna do that,
you know. And I've no shade to anybody, but i mean,
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come on, if you're gonna if you're gonna go go
on to a podcast or live stream and talk about
your research and your experiment and tout that you're the
only one that's doing it or done it, you know,
just because you're not aware of it. And and this
is just something I want people to be aware of.
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Just because you're not aware that somebody else has done it,
does it make you the experiment expert or put you
into a different classification because you haven't heard that any
of anybody doing anything. And I can tell you for
a fact, in the time that I've been researching, I've
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done a crap ton of research experiments that nobody even
knows about. And it's not that I'm trying to hide anything.
It's just some of the experiments at the end of
the day. You know, if you look at things from
a scientific perspective, science, science in general requires duplication. You
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have to be able to duplicate your results repetitively in
order for you to form a hypothesis. So, in my opinion,
because because I was not at a point with some
of the tests or experiments to sufficiently reproduce those results,
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I just don't talk about them. That doesn't mean that
they never happened, but you know, I just think that
that there's there's a trend among amateur scientists. You know,
they want to be the first and the best. And
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there's nothing wrong with being the first and the best,
but you have to you have to put your ego
on the side and focus on what you're doing, because
if you don't, then your your data is going to
be skewed, your perception of your data is going to
be skewed because you're focused on, Oh, I'm I'm the
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I'm the best researcher there is, and I'm an expert,
and I've only got one thing to say about X. First,
what's that? Well, as far as you wanted to talk
about the LBL a little bit, So here we go. Okay,
And this is the only thing I've got to say.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh faster seat belts everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And this is shade. And I don't care if you
like it or you don't. That's truth. It's the truth.
All these people out here that are talking about they're
the LBO expert. I tell you what you do. You
hook up with one of them, and you ask them
to take you to take you to a spot or
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better yet, or better yet. When you hook up with them,
there are four entry points to the LBL. You have
the trace on the north end that you can enter from,
you have the trace on the south end that you
can inter from, and then you have Highway sixty eight
that runs through the middle of it on either side
east or west. You meet up with them at one
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of those entries points and you ask them to take
you to even as an example, you ask them to
take you to a very well known spot within the
l b L And what you do is you ask
them to take you to Wranglers camp round.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, I'm gonna call you if I ever go up there.
I'm gonna get you to take me.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You ask them to take you to Wranglers Campground. It's
a very well known location. It's a horse camp. There
are signs on the road. You can't miss it, and
you just ask them to take you to it. And
I guarantee you that the majority of them can't do it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh man, everybody's looking at wlers camp round on their
maps right now. I guarantee it. I guarantee, Oh my gosh, wow, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And it. But yet they're they're an expert on the LBL,
you know, they know what's going on. Well, so there's
my shade for the show.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Well, is it because they just don't know where it's at,
or like, is that a place that's not on a map?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Or I mean no, it's on a map. It's very
well documented. It's everybody that lives here locally knows where
it's at, knows how to get to it. Okay. But
the people that I don't know what the right term
to use, the people that come over there to the
LBL like maybe once or twice a year, you know,
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they don't really spend but maybe two or three days
or at a week at the most. They just don't
know the place. And you know, if you don't know
the place, then you by all means you should not
be calling yourself an expert on anything concerning the place
in my opinion, and like I said, that's my shade
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for the show.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
We have a question in the chat too, and I
want it. First of all, I want to say thank
you to Larry Sharp for that superstickret. Thank you Larry.
He says happy Saturday, and y'all in prayers. And I
think that Larry's already gone for the night. If I'm
not mistaken. I think he went he got tired and
had to go to bed. Nathan Davis, who the blessed are,
the curious and the humble. Thank you, Nathan, that is
so sweet. Thank you so much for that superstickre and
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thank you for your support. I appreciate it. Now. I
think it was Magnus in the chat had said if
I can find his comment right here, I may not
can find his comment at the moment, but he was asking,
or he or she I think he was asking, was
that massacre that we hear about with the Beasts of LBO?
Is that a true story? What do you say to that? Mark?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So my opinion on that is, you know, I spent
some time with Jan Thompson, the original person that wrote
the story and released it She released it on a
website called the Prairie Ghosts and her personal website. The
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story appeared on Prairie Ghosts and that's where I encountered
it at first, because at the time I was involved
in some paranormal research and stuff like that, and I
came across the story and I thought it was interesting,
and I got in touch with him with her and
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talked about it. Ended up a few years later after
I got to know where a little bit spending some
time with her. So, being the investigative mind that I am,
I talk talked to a lot of local people that
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that living, you know, that lived in the area during
that time. And the interesting part about it was when
I asked them if the story was true or the
event was true, their instant answer was yes. But once
they found out my interest in it and why I
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was asking about it, they kind of changed their story
and they said, well, you know that story, you were
asked about it, it wasn't true. And then I'm thinking
to myself, you know, why did the person initially tell
me yes, it's true. Now, as far as documentation and
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all that good stuff that has been that has been
kind of I'm gonna use the term scrubbed. In my opinion,
a lot of it has. And prime example, the newspaper
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that is printed here locally was was stored uh physical
copies of it were stored in the public library, going
back to the beginning of the newspaper. You could go
in and they had these big binders that you could
pull out and dig through, you know, to the beginning
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of the newspaper and read the newspapers. And I would
I used those initially during my research to try to
locate anything that would that would validate the story. When
they moved everything over to digital format and they moved
everything online, the newspapers that they scanned in.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Were not complete missing pages.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yes, so what you have access to online is not
one complete as to what they actually physically had. Why
they did that, I don't know. It is kind of
kind of odd. You would think that, you know, they
would have a purest mentality being that they're the book people,
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that they would want to preserve that document documentation, you know,
historic for for historical purposes. Yeah, and but yeah, I
don't know why they would would do that and.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Cover up that's why.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, you know, actually Barry Littleton and I were talking
about the we covered a an alien, a picture of
an alien in a magazine from back in what was
it nineteen I forgot when it was. I want to
say nineteen eighty something eighty two, maybe the Amicico alien.
It was in that magazine. They're talking about Area fifty one,
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I think. And he gave me that as a remote
viewing target. And they say that you can't find that
magazine anywhere today, Like, I mean, there's one guy that
had wat a copy online, but they're like, it's so
hard to come by. They got rid of it. But
of course they were saying it was a model, it
was a fake alien, but I don't think it was.
I think it was. Yeah, I think that was real alien,
you know. And they try to they put it out there,
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and then they bring it back and they're like, well
the public caught on too quick. Let's get rid of
all the copies of that, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So well, you know, I have a personally, I have
an experience like that. So when I was when I
was a younger, what's younger, in my late teens, there
was a book that was printed. It was called and
I'm I'm only going to mention the name of the book.
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I'm not going to get into details about it, but
the name of the book was Operation Vampire Killer, and
a few years later they came out with a edited
version of that book that was called Operation Vampire Killer
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two thousand and It is very extremely hard to find
the original Operation Vampire Killer book anywhere unless somebody has
it in a private collection. And I can attest because
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I've read both of them. They are two very completely
different books. And if you, I will say this much,
if you want to understand, really really understand what's going
on in our country today, try to find a copy
of the original Operation Vampire Killer, and that will explain
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everything to you.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I'm scared to ask you what Operation Vampire Killer is.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It was a book that was written by, at the
time a group of law enforcement officers.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Oh that.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Uh, basically outlines the the plan for what we what
we've what we refer to or referred to at that
time as the nWo. So yeah, mm so when the
things that are happening with different things relating to immigration
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and stuff like that, I was not in the least
bit surprised because everything that that they did fit exactly
into what is originally talked about in that book.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Well, that's similar to like why Barry brought that up
with the Amaco alien was because Bill Cooper had done
some whistleblowing on that saying that was a real alien
and it was all about this. He was worrying about
this fake alien invasion that was going to bring in
the New World Order then the One World Government, and
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so I guess it's kind of similar to that. I
guess a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, it's a it's part of it.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, we have a question here, okay, and you can
answer this or you don't have to, Mark, Okay, thank
you don for the question. It says, ask Mark, if
the April nineteen eighty two attack was across from Pleasant
Hill Cemetery east of SD three oh one or northwest
at de Members Bay Campground, do you is it known?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I cannot confirm or deny, okay, anything relating to the
actual location of where that event actually took place.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Okay, Yes, I just wanted I just pulled it up there.
I don't know my way around there at all, but
I've heard that. I mean, some people don't believe it
ever even happened, okay, but but I'm one that does
believe it did happen because I have remote viewed it
and it was given me as a target, and the
things that I saw while remote viewing would suggest that
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it really did happen.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, that's just like, that's just like you know, you
talk about the twenty seventeen both Hunter incident. You know,
there are people that have put out stories that are
just not true and there's no there's no way to
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negate that the information that it's being put out is
just not true. And why they choose to do that,
I don't know. And you know, one thing, one thing
that I have a very serious issue with, and I'm
gonna go ahead and say it because we talked about
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this yesterday. Yes, I have a very serious issue with
people lying. Yeah, you know, I mean I'm not and
I'll be the first to say I'm not perfect. I've
lied before. I've lied about little things, in consequential things.
I've lied about big things. But you know, I realized that,
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you know, if you don't do dirt, that you don't
have to lie in the first place. So if you can't,
if you be, if you're honest with people, then there's
don't need to lie. So you know, it's complicated because
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you know, I'm not I'm not in the business of
you know, when I first got involved in this, you know,
it's like I we talked about this too. I didn't
ask to be involved in this. I just was. I
you know, it just turned out that way. And because
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I was having experiences and seeing things, it caused me
to want answers to the questions that I had regarding
the experiences that I was having. And you know, I
didn't get into this to be It's why I don't
have a podcast or or a lot of videos on
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my YouTube channel. I'm not in this to make money.
I'm not in this to you know, steer a narrative
a lot of people. I'm not trying to be famous.
I'm not trying to be anybody. Because the reality is this,
when you become that, whether you're in the YouTube community,
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it puts it puts a bullseye on your back.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Oh are you telling me? Of course it does.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
You know this. I'm just I'm talking. I'm talking to
the audience basically, and likewise, from the research perspective, you know,
if you're if you're doing real research and you're not
full of crap, it puts a bullseye on your back
because there are people out there that do not want
(35:49):
real researchers doing real stuff and getting real answers. And
I'll go ahead, and I'll go ahead and say why
I think that is is because one, it's going to
force people to answer questions that they don't want to.
It's going to force people to admit to doing things
(36:12):
that they don't want to admit to. And you know,
prime example, you know, I watched the I watched the
kill Team go into an area and I was I
was talking about not broadcast, you know, like on a
podcast or anything like that, but back in back in
(36:36):
the in the two thousands, many years ago, I watched
the kill team get prompted into an area at the
Beckon becketting of a big name research group because somebody
(36:56):
that was a small time, small fry researcher wanted to
be wanted to be famous, and they thought that giving
the information to this big group was going to elevate
them within that group. And what did they do. They
turned it over to whoever they did the next thing,
you know, you've got light armored vehicles and people with
(37:24):
guns and drop it in things to eradicate the Bigfoot
that were in the area. And I saw this myself personally,
and I was talking about this years and years ago
before the whole hype thing came out about Oh well,
(37:44):
you know, government killed teams are going in and doing
this and they're doing that. And you know, I'm not
gonna call any names because I'm not trying to throw
anybody into the bus. But you know, there are people
that use that as a as a as a hook
(38:05):
to gain viewership because people want to hear about that
kind of stuff. And I can tell you from first
hand experience, it's not fun. There's nothing fun about, you know,
having to watch your back because you don't know if
they're just they're gonna take out the Bigfoot, you know,
are they gonna come get you too?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Oh no, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
You're the one that relayed the information.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Uh oh yeah, that can be It's a slippery slope
and it can be a little bit dangerous, Okay. And
you know, I like to think I have just enough
crazy inside of me to keep doing what I'm doing,
even though I have had targets on my back, okay
for all this yeah and stuff. And I mean, you
you know better than just about anybody. And here's the
thing about like my team. When I talk about my teams,
(38:55):
you guys hear about my one team. Okay, I talk
about my ASOG team pretty often and Seekers sometimes, but
my original bigfoot teams, those guys are not public at all.
I've had to really pull some strings to get some
of those guys to even come on my show to talk.
Like Keith for instance, you know, some of those guys
like they just they're not going to talk about our
research at all because of this very thing that you're
(39:18):
discussing right here. You know, as far as it's given
our locations away and things we don't we don't want
anybody to go in there and to hurt the population
of the bigfoots that were out there, you know, dealing
with and stuff. So yeah, and we've seen that too.
We've had a lot of people, not a lot. We've
had a couple of people, I'm just gonna say a couple.
It's probably more than that, talk about how they've given
(39:39):
reports to certain you know, groups and organizations about bigfoot
sightings and then the helicopters do show up and they
do go eradicate the bigfoots in the area and stuff.
So there's you know, it's we're careful about what we say,
and I'm careful about what I say sometimes on air. Two. Okay,
So well, I just you know.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I think it it was a it was a crappy deal,
you know, because I was led to believe that I
could and I'll admit it. Yeah, there was a time
when I was green and not so not so salty,
and uh, you know, I was led to believe that
(40:22):
I could trust the person that I was relaying the
information to. Little did I know that they had they
were working on an agenda and looking to become somebody.
And you know, sadly, that seems to be the norm
these days within the community. And you know, I mean,
(40:48):
like I said, I'm not I'm not trying to I'm
not trying to throw any into anybody under the bus.
I'm just trying to make people aware of the reality
of what can happen when you're when you're doing this
kind of research. And uh, yeah, it's just it's unfortunate
because it causes you not to trust people and trust
(41:14):
very people.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Mark that's our saying, trust nobody, right, trust no one. Well,
here's somebody I trust, Robbie Raine what's up, Robbie. Robbie's
in the chat. Robbie has been at the Ohio, Ohio
Bigfoot conference today and this weekend, So thank you for
hobbing in the chat, Robbie. It's so good to see you.
He just got done with the conference in Ohio, so
(41:35):
thank you for being here, Rob, Robbie, I appreciate it.
Till Das said hey as well. And yes we've actually
done some big footing together. Y'all know Robbie's been on
the show before too, so but yeah, it's it's wild.
I feel you. I feel you one hundred percent on
everything you just said. Mark, and uh, And I wanted
to I wanted to ask you, like, I mean, you're
(41:58):
you're an old I'm You're not old, You're an old
pro let was say, old pro. Honestly, you and I
are actually about the same age. So if you're old,
I'm old. Okay. So I didn't mean it like that
you're a old pro like you've just been in this
for a long time. You've been doing a lot of
cryptid field research, boots on the ground research, but it
all started somewhere and I just recently found out that
(42:18):
you had your first encounter with a crypto back when
you were a kid, and I was wondering if you
could tell me about that tonight. I want to hear
about it out in Louisiana, sure.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
So I want to give some reference so that everybody understands,
you know, the origins of this event. So it took place.
I was thirteen fourteen at the time, and during that
time I did there were two seasons, basically hunting and fishing,
(42:55):
and I was either doing one or the other. When
it was hunting, sea and I was hunting in the woods.
When it was fishing, I was going down to the
to the to the creek and the lake and fishing
and just basically having a good time, not really you know,
(43:17):
too concerned about anything. And being that I spent so
much time in the woods, if I were to encounter somebody,
generally I knew everybody that lived in the area, so
you know, and that's a that's a worthy point for
(43:39):
me to mention because of what actually happened. So anyhow
it turned out it was it was early spring, it
was well, it was actually mint spring, and I had decided,
you know, and one of the things about about this,
(44:00):
I would do these things by myself a lot because
I was out of my my other two brothers. My
two brothers, my older brother would go fishing with us,
but he was not into hunting at all, and my
younger brother he was, you know, doing his He was
(44:22):
too young at the time, so he didn't really interact
a lot with that. But anyway, the day of the encounter,
and also I think it's important to mention that I
had not had any I had no exposure to any
(44:46):
kind of cryptids. I didn't know what cryptids were. I
didn't know what big bigfoot was. Yeah, I heard about it,
but I didn't think it was real. And I didn't
have any reference for how these things act, these things acted,
what they did, or anything like that. So when when
(45:07):
this event happened, as I go through describing it, there
are things that you know. Basically, when I learned about
the things that these things do was I was instantly
taken back to this event and I was like, that
(45:28):
was probably a bigfoot that I encountered. So that day
I decided I was going to go down to the
creek and go fishing. So what I did was I
went up to a friend of mine's house and at
the back of their property. It was an ATV trail
that went all the way down to the creek. Now,
(45:52):
I don't know if you're familiar with the way that
swamps are, but when the water is up, basically you
could walk down into the swamp bottom and if it
the water's up, you can look out and it'll look
like a huge lake with nothing but trees in it.
(46:12):
I mean it just you can look out through it.
But when the water goes down, because the water is
there and it's usually there for a long time, when
it's up, it has a tendency to kill off the vegetation,
so the vegetation is not so thick. So the trail
going in as I was walking down it, I was
(46:36):
going through a big brier thicket. The trail went through
a cut through a briar thicket and it came to
a bend, and at the edge of the bend, on
the other side of the bend, there was like a
little gully way where water had would gather in the trail,
(46:57):
and then it opened up into the bottom and you
can see for like, I don't know, two hundred and
fifty yards just wide open through the trees. As I
came up to this little gullyway that was full of water.
I was like looking at it and I was like, ah,
(47:18):
I don't want to really want to get muddy, so
I was trying to find a way to get around
it and onto the other side. There was no water up,
so that was a good thing. So I kind of
sidestepped this big puddle of water, and when I got
to the other side of it, I was kind of
(47:39):
stopped for a second. And I was because I caught
movement out of the corner of my eye and I
look over and to me, it looks like somebody coming
along this gullyway walking and I'm like, oh, who is this?
(48:00):
So I'm like I stop, and I'm standing there looking
at them. And next thing I know, what I thought
was a person stepped in behind a tree and they
were just standing there, and I was like, well, maybe
they saw me, maybe they don't want me to see
didn't want me to see them or whatever. And I'm
(48:22):
trying to figure out why, why is this person just
standing behind this tree?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah and creep.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
And I was like, you know, if they step out,
I'm going to know who it is because I know
everybody that lives in this area. So I'm like debating
whether or not I'm going to say something. I'm just
standing there, and then all of a sudden, this what
this person that I'm think I'm i've seen takes a
(48:50):
single step from behind a tree that it was behind
behind another tree, and when they did, I saw like
the knee area of their leg, and I can see
it clearly because they weren't but maybe twenty yards from me.
You know, a lot of people have this misconception about distance,
(49:14):
and they think that twenty yards is a long way away,
but it's actually not so. Anyways, when they took that
single step and I could see their knee area, I
could see reddish brown hair with mud and leaves caked
in it, and I was like, my mind was registering
(49:40):
what I was seeing, but also at the same time,
in my mind, I was thinking, person, who is this person?
So they took another step behind another tree and I
couldn't see them. So I'm standing there and I'm like
waiting for him the come out, and I'm kind of
(50:04):
like standing in the opening. I'm like, well, you know,
what the heck's going on here? And then all of
a sudden, I hear two shots from a shotgun further down,
closer to the creek. And then I'm thinking, well, maybe
they're out here poaching deer and they're trying to hide
because they don't want me to see that. So I'm
(50:26):
standing there, and I'm like, what do I do? Do
I say something, Do I, you know, continue on my way?
Do I turn around and go back? You know, what's
going on? What am I going to do? So I'm
standing there and I'm looking, and then all of a sudden,
I hear a sound that I recognize. Anybody that's a
hunter knows this sound, the sound of a deer running
(50:50):
through the woods, and it was coming from the direction
of where the gun shots were. And then instantly in
my mind, I was saying, that deer's coming straight through
this trail that I'm standing in front of, and it's
going to run me over. And I don't want to
get ran over by mooded deer because the deer will
(51:11):
hurt you if it runs over you like that. So
I turned and I jumped across that gullyway and I
went ran back up the trail about ten or you know,
twenty ten, ten and twenty yards, and as I'm running,
I hear this sound and to me, it sounded like
(51:38):
a like a big thump, like a bloop, and then
the sound of this deer running stopped. So I get
about twenty yards up back up the trail, and I stopped,
and I'm like in this location where there's nothing but thicket,
(52:00):
can't see anything, and all of a sudden, I started
getting this really weird, creeped out feeling. And there was
the impression that I got was that whatever was going
on or whatever that was that I had encountered, did
not want me there, and that I needed to get
(52:22):
out of there. And I ended up. I turned around
and I just went back. I actually went back home. So,
you know, looking at that, I would say that it
you know, looking at the circumstances around the encounter with
(52:44):
what I thought was a person, you know, seeing that
red hair on their red mud caked hair, did it
look like that?
Speaker 1 (52:54):
I made it say, I remember what you had told me,
and I was trying to get some AI pictures.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah, it was kind of kind.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Of a little more hairy than that.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, it was kind of about that color.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Yeah, but it looks more like a primate kind of
right there. But yeah, so this one, hold on, I
did another one, this one that one doesn't have enough
hair on his body though, I tell you, I just
can't get it right. They always they always give them nipples.
I've noticed that they always have very prominent nipples. I
(53:28):
don't know why AI does that.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
And so, you know, looking at it, the whole hiding
behind the tree thing, that's a very common thing that
bigfoot do that I hadn't, you know. I mean, it's
it's it's not above a person to do that, but
(53:54):
it's very common for bigfoot to do that. And I
think that when when that deer was coming into that area,
I think that it's possible that if that was a bigfoot,
that it could have picked it up and slammed it
up against a tree, because that would explain the thump
that I heard, and then what happened afterwards with me
(54:22):
getting a feeling that I needed to leave that area.
And you know, yeah, it's a lot of circumstantial stuff,
but when I found out how these things act in
the woods, those things kind of stuck out to me
(54:44):
as a as a strong possibility that it could have
been a bigfoot. Now, when I saw it initially, I
was looking at it full body of view, and I
thought it was somebody in the guilty suit when the
short time that I did see it in full by
leave you and you know, it just did not act normal.
(55:10):
And uh, but yeah, that was my that was my
my first encounter with something out of the out of
the norm as far as you know, high possibility of
it being a bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Well, you know what, we've had a discussion before, asking
or discussing if people get marked. You know, you you
see and I know your name's mark, but she got marked? Maybe? Okay,
where where somebody? And what I mean by that for
people who are listening in and I if you're not
familiar with being marked, it's like where you have an
(55:50):
encounter with a dog men or a bigfoot, and then
you continuously have encounters with dog men and bigfoot at
that point because it's almost like you're on the radar.
Do you think that that's what happened to you back
then when you were a kid?
Speaker 2 (56:06):
You know, I've contemplated that, and I've contemplated that question
a lot, and I've looked for possible explanations for that
because it's not normal. You know. One of the things
that my wife has a tendency to say or she
used to say a lot. She's like, you know, I
(56:26):
don't understand it how one person can encounter so much
weird stuff. You know, you've seen bigfoot and dog men
and UFOs and ghosts and aliens and all kinds of
crazy stuff. How is it possible that one person can
encounter all that stuff? And then there's people that never
(56:46):
encounter anything like that. And I have, you know, speculated
the answer to that question for a long time, in
many years, and I have some possible answers, but no
definitive answer. And I think a lot of it has
(57:06):
to do with a person, a person's awareness and their
vibration and their their their spiritual attunement, and uh, there's
just a lot of things, in my opinion that come
into play with that, even to the point of, you know,
I came across the thing where they talk about now,
(57:29):
I have an astigmatism in my left eye. And I
don't know if you know this or not, but people
that have an astigmatism their their their eye where the
their optical nerves go through to their brain. Most people
there the canal is round mm hmm, But people that
(57:55):
have an astigmatism that canal is diamond shaped.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Always wondered what that was because I have one, and
I thought it meant I had to get a different
set of contact for that, Yeah, what it meant.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
So I think that that could have a effect on
a person's perception m in some way, don't. I am
not a medical doctor, an optician and optometrist anything like that.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
It's for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Yeah, so you know, but I have come across that,
and you know, it's something to consider, and it's just
interesting because you know, we don't know, you know, what
causes a person to be able to experience so much
(58:57):
weird stuff. You know, there's you know, I hear people
talk about, man, I want to see a bigfoot, I
want to see a dog. Man, I want to see ghosts,
and I want to see UFOs and aliens and this,
that and the other. And I'm like, shut up, if
you only you do not even understand what you're asking for.
You just don't. Because I'll be honest with you. There
(59:20):
have been days where I have been like, not again, no,
I can't do this, you know, I just want, you know,
would be happy if I never ever saw anything out
of the ordinary again. And you know, I hate to
(59:43):
say that, But I mean it's true because it's so
you know, so commonplace. You know, since I've lived here
in Kentucky, I've had so many bigfoot encounters and sightings
that I stopped counting them.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
Yeah, you've had a lot of sightings, you have, And
I mean I've I've been followed. I'm gonna say followed.
I guess are just surrounded by the paranormal and things
like that my entire life, Okay, I really have. And
I think it's because of the frequency that I was
Maybe I was born in I guess, I don't know. Yeah,
(01:00:20):
it could be. I think some of us are just
born that way and could be. And uh and Guya
Love says living in a city slim chance of seeing one.
Now that's not always true, Yeah, because in that right, Mark,
I mean, I've got I've got friends of mine, and
I've seen video evidence of dog men in the inner
cities of huge cities like Atlanta. In uh Fort, for instance, there's.
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
A place just outside the city's limits of Nashville that
is widely known to have dog man activity in it.
It's actually a public part.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Where is that again? Did you say where?
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I did not say where?
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Well, I know it's st I'm not gonna say this
is where, but in Saint Louis they say there's a
lot of dog man activity downtown there as just an
example under that arch. They say that art is a portal.
I don't know, could be, could be that that'd be
a good remote viewing target, though, I think, yeah, that
that fella that claimed to have been part of the
(01:01:24):
dog man breeding program, that Victor guy. I think it
was him, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know. This
is like secondhand coming from I don't know where I
get this information from, but I think I recall it him.
Maybe it was him saying that they had taken out
some dog men that were right there or something. I mean,
like unlived it in broad daylight or something right there
(01:01:45):
undread that arch. I don't know. Don't quote me on that.
I'm just remembering from secondhand information there. But anyways, they're
in the big cities, and we've also talked about like
out in California, we've got big foot dwarf from the
chat and I shout out to our West Coast buddies
over there, and we've we've talked about the the dog
(01:02:06):
men in sam Bernardino. If I'm not mistaken, uh, San Diego,
not San Diego. But I think it's Sam Bernardino. I
think I'm sure sure b D will probably say it
if I got it wrong. But they're in a big cities,
so they're not just out in the national forest for sure.
(01:02:26):
So everyone everyone could have a dog man experience. You
get a dog man, you get a dog man. We
all get dog men.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
So so to kind of go back to the question
that you asked about, you know and Marked, Yeah, Marked,
I would say that there's probably several different factors that
come into play with that, like like I said, and
and then that's not even getting into things like heritage.
(01:02:58):
You know, my grandmother was was half Indian, and then
you know the other aspects and things that come into play,
like you know, UFO, alien contact, interactions with what people
(01:03:22):
call the fae, things like that, you know, And and
during that time that I that I had that experience,
and do be do be aware that that wasn't the
only experience that I had while I was growing up.
But during that time, you know, until until I became
(01:03:47):
an adult, I was not in tune with the inner
workings of Bigfoot and cryptids and different things, and I
h but I did have cryptid encounters later on that
(01:04:09):
I can't really say that's what it was because I
didn't actually lay eyes on them. Now I'm kind of
weird in that respect, because you know, if it's a
bunch of circumstantial stuff and I don't actually physically lay
(01:04:31):
eyes on it and and I can't see that that's
what it is, I generally don't say, hey, you know
that was that was one hundred percent of Bigfoot. But
I don't know. It's weird. Since I've lived here in Kentucky,
I've had, like I said, I've had so many, you know,
encounters and sightings that stopped counting them. And they were
(01:04:54):
not circumstantial encounters. They were encounters where I was physically
looking at it, sometimes almost face to face, and I
knew what it was. Now I why, I don't know,
(01:05:18):
but I you know, I guess when I'm trying to
get to with what I'm trying to say is, you know,
I don't normally talk about my UFO and alien experiences,
but I think that they're as we say, they're all connected.
All these things are connected. You know, you start talking
(01:05:40):
about the FAE aliens, UFOs, and you have these cryptids.
They're all connected in some way for some reason. And
I had experiences with all three of those things when
I was growing up, but I never put them in
(01:06:02):
to the perspective of them being related. I just thought
they were isolated incidents that were unrelated, just different weird
things that I experienced. One of my faye interactions that
I had when I was growing.
Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Up, was this in Louisiana, by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Yes, it was. So.
Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
We actually have some folks from Louisiana in the chat tonight.
They were like, I don't know, I forgot who it was.
I'm sorry, I forgot to pull the comment back up.
They were like, this is from my neck of the woods,
so shout out to all of our Louisianians in here
and thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Yeah. Yeah, so, actually not very far from where I
had that encounter that I related a while ago. I
a friend of mine and myself had gone camping on
(01:07:01):
their property and during the night. Now, I was never
known to sleepwalk that I'm aware of. We had this
discussion too, Jessica.
Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I'm talking about a lot of this stuff, probably in private,
not on air.
Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Yeah, I was not the one in the family that
had a tendency to sleep walk. However, there was one
night where while I was asleep that night that we
(01:07:45):
were camped out, I had a recollection where I was
at the corner of the property and the corner of
the property had an ATV trail that kind of went
into the corner and then turned up the fence fence line,
and then there was a gap in the fence where
(01:08:07):
you could take an ATV through it, and there was
another trail on the other side of the fence that
went up. Well, I was on the other side of
the fence and I was about, I don't know about
a say, about one hundred yards up the trail, and
I remember looking over and there was a the only
(01:08:29):
way I could describe it, it was a fay city
in the woods there. That yes, it was like a
scene imagine, if you will, a scene out of like
(01:08:49):
little green lights. You could see they were everywhere, and
this thing was like maybe fifteen feet in diameter, and
it was like the buildings were like small, but the
buildings had lights in them. It was like it was
like really really odd, and it was so impressioning upon
(01:09:16):
me that that next day when I woke up, I
actually went down to that location and looked, and when
I got there, to be expected, there was nothing there.
But I mean, why would I have that as a
dream during the night, you know? And I think that
(01:09:38):
I could have been sleepwalking or something like that and
was actually down at that location.
Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
You know, that's interesting because this is actually reminded me
of a conversation that I had on Tony Merkle's show,
The Confessionals. He was interviewing me about I see, we're
talking about the weaponized portals. That's what he ended up
up calling the show. Okay, but but we were talking
about a whole lot of stuff. We were talking about
some of my ET encounters that I'd had, and and
(01:10:08):
I told him, you know, it was really odd that
when I woke up and there were ET's in my
bedroom on different occasions, that my dogs would not wake up,
and my son was in the room and he was
not waking he was he was just I didn't expect
him to wake up. But my dogs are another story.
They heard everything. They always woke up if they heard anything.
(01:10:30):
I mean, if if somebody were to tap on a
downstairs window three stories down, they would hear it okay,
and and so I just remember thinking, man, why are
my dogs not waking up? And then he he kind
of put it out there to me. He was like, well,
what if you woke up in another dimension, like you
were still there in your your bedroom, but like you
(01:10:50):
were just like one plane above, you know, like you
were like in the third dimension. You woke up in
like the fourth dimension or something, and you're in there
their territory where like you're you know, it's it's just
a little bit off, and it's just like it's like
the show Stranger Things, you know, like the upside down
or something kind of. But I was like in their
(01:11:11):
realm where I could see them, but it wasn't like
affecting my dogs. It was like in my astral body. Yeah,
you know what I mean. And that's that's probably what
happened with you too, That's I mean, I'm not saying
it was, but it could have been. Uh, it could
be an explanation as to what happened with you when
you were experiencing that.
Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
But I mean, you know, and I'm just looking at
it from the perspective of you know, I was I
was in my mid to late teens when that happened
farthert thing from my mind, a little fairy city. Why
would I even be dreaming about.
Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
That, you know, same reason I was dreaming about the
Wizard of Oz and hanging out with the Munchkins right
when I had that et standing in my bedroom. You know, Yeah,
there's there's something more to it. Oh yeah, you know,
there's something more to it.
Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
And it was just it was it was kind of weird.
But yeah, like I said, I went down down there
that morning and walked into that area and it kind
of felt a little bit odd, but there was nothing there.
(01:12:25):
I was.
Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
I thought you were going to tell me that you
you walk down there and there was a fairy ring.
You know what a faery ring is, the mushrooms in
a circle. Yeah, they say do not step in a
fairy ring. They say, especially if you're pregnant. I think
that's what I've been told.
Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yeah, I don't know all the lower but.
Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
You know, yeah I don't. I don't either. The one
thing that I have not really focused on too much
because I don't know that much about them are fairies.
That's something I've done a couple of shows in regard
to fairies, but that's just not my it's not my wheelhouse.
I haven't really I don't know if I've ever dealt
with fairies.
Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Well, they they they creep me out. I mean those
are that wasn't my only experience that I've had with them.
I did have a uh and it's it's so outleantiously crazy.
I don't even want to tell it, but you know,
(01:13:31):
well I might as well tell it.
Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Might as well. We're all friends here.
Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
So so as as you learned recently, there is a
lot of weird stuff that has happened in the time
that I've lived in this house. And one of the
things that has happened was I had got up in
the middle of the night, and you know, as most
people do sometimes you wake up in the middle night,
(01:13:58):
you got to go to the restroom. So I got
up and went to the restroom. And when I came
out of the restroom the bathroom, something drew me to
that window up the front in the front of the
living room.
Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Now, this is your house in Kentucky by the LBL Yeah. Okay,
oh man, you've had a lot of stuff going at
that house.
Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
I went to the window and I pulled the curtain
and I looked out and I was looking around and
I could see these two things. Now, our driveway is
I don't know, maybe forty thirty five forty yards long,
and then there's the road, and we have a vapor light,
(01:14:46):
or a booger light as some people call them.
Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Is that a spotlight?
Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
No, it's a big, a big booger light. You know
what a booger light.
Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Is, right, No, I have no idea what a booger light.
I'm assuming I figured it was.
Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
A you know what a vapor light is then? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
No, I don't think so. I don't know. I've never
heard of a vapor light. So tell me what is it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
It's you know the lights that's big on the pole.
Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Yes, oh like.
Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Yeah, that's put in by the electric company. Yes, and
it lights up a big area. Yes, we have one
of those in the front edge of the yard. So
if you look out, it lights up part of the
road and the front yard.
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Got it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
So I'm standing at the window and I'm looking, and
I when I what I'm seeing it. To me, initially,
it looks like two cats sitting in the road. They
were about the size of a house cat. And I
got to looking and I was like, hold, on a second.
That doesn't Those aren't cats. I say, what is that?
(01:15:53):
And I'm standing there and I'm looking, and then all
of a sudden, I see one of them run over
to the other one. And I realized that the first
one is squatted down and he'd leap frogs over the
first one.
Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
It was like human noids. Humanoids? Oh god, Why am
I not surprised?
Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
They were playing leap frog in the middle of the
just on the other side of the driveway going down
the road.
Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
And I'm looking at him and I'm like, this is crazy.
What am I even looking at? And then it hit me.
I was like, I don't want him to know that
I see him, So I closed the curtain that I
went to bed.
Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Oh man, I hope you don't have a doggy door
or a cat door. Tell you what I tell you,
what if you had one of those. That's one more
thing you gotta worry about coming in your house. Be careful, man,
that's wild. That's wild.
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Good. And then and then it's about a year later.
Now I don't know if you're aware of this, but
some Native American legends talk about a a tribal chief
or a regional chief or whatever for the fae, and
they're historically known to use porcupine pelts as a over
(01:17:27):
garment slash camouflage.
Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Yes, the I've discussed those before on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
So I had a similar incident happened sometime later. It
was maybe a year or so later, got up, went
to the bathroom, and when I came out, something drew
me to the window on the side of the house
that overlooks the dog yard. We've got a fenced in
dog yard, and I pulled the curtain back and a
(01:17:59):
lot looked and I see this thing. At first it
was standing up and then it hunts down and it
was like walking along the outside of the edge of
the fence. And I was like, what in the world
is that? And then I realized that it was a
(01:18:24):
I was looking at porcupine quills, and I'm like, there's
no porcupines in Kentucky. I've never heard or seen a
porcupine here, and I was like, well, maybe it's not
a porcupine. And then instantly it popped into my head
that there was a possibility that it could have been
(01:18:48):
that regional chief or tribal chief out doing whatever he's doing,
and you know, realized that I had opened that curtain
and he was trying to camouflage hisself to where I didn't.
(01:19:10):
I didn't, I couldn't see him, very very weird, and
it creeped me out. And as soon as that popped
into my mind, as far as what it could have been,
curtain went shut and I went back to bed because
I'm like, I do not want to you know, you
don't want them to know that you can see them.
(01:19:32):
And the reason for that is because if you can
see him, then most of the time they don't really
care for that because they they are what what what
I classify they walk between they walk between worlds. They
(01:19:57):
can walk in our world and they walk in their own.
And you know, I like to survise that people that
have walked in in two different worlds at the same
time can maybe see these things at a higher rate
(01:20:17):
than others.
Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Including yourself, could be. I think, yeah, you know, I
was always told that when I was when I was
a kid, you know, I knew psychic people and stuff.
And you know, I remember my mom used to go
get her card riad and stuff occasionally, and uh, and
I would go when I was a teenager and stuff,
and I would I would oftentimes have people look at
(01:20:42):
me and be like, you walk in you walk into worlds.
You have one foot in this world and one foot
in the other. And I was told that my entire life.
I was always told that, and I believe it one
hundred percent because look at look what do I do today,
you know, and I got just got that connection.
Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Well with with some people. I think that's that's an
outcome of circumstance. And you know, one of the big
things that you know, in answering the question of why
some people have these experiences and others don't. You know,
(01:21:21):
I've looked at a lot of different factors, you know,
people that have had near death experiences, and you know,
all kinds of you know, strange factors that you might not.
You know, there's the good old fashioned r age factor
in their blood, you know, things like that. One thing
that I've noticed is there seems to be a lot
(01:21:42):
of people that are either borderline or are diabetic seem
to have a lot of a higher rate of incidents
with cryptids in general. Really yeah, and I think that
that's possibly got something to do with uhland gland you'dar
(01:22:09):
function in their body.
Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Wow, Well, you know, what, well, we can kind of
tie that into okay, because that's kind of something that
my friend Bryce with. She's got a YouTube channel called
Esoteric at Lena. She's a good friend of mine. She
she has told me before. We've had discussions about blood
types and her her idea is that certain blood types
(01:22:34):
are more prone to having paranormal experiences because my myself
and her boyfriend are the same blood type. I'm not
going to say what it is, but we're the same
blood type, and and she is different from our blood type,
and he and I have the same type of experiences,
especially with bigfoots and stuff. And so she's always kind
of concluded from I mean just not just that alone,
(01:22:55):
but she's got a bigger sample I guess of people.
But she said that that's what she thinks. And and
if you take what doctor Richard Alan Miller doc doc
Raham that came on the show last Monday, he was
talking about I can't I don't know the full word,
but I'm just gonna say like DMT and stuff. Right
he was talking about I'd asked him if it was
(01:23:17):
true the astronauts are trained in remote viewing with NASA.
You know, he worked with NASA and stuff, and he
was like, well, yes and no. He said, it's not
remote viewing, it's actual. It's actually astral projection, is what
he said. And he started talking about how you can
go to outer space through taking. It's a conscious thing.
(01:23:39):
It's like inner space. It's not like he's like, outer
space is actually inside your mind. It's your consciousness. It
was kind of weird. It was a really interesting conversation. Okay,
that's really really weird. But it could be you know,
chemical induced, is what I'm trying to say. He said,
it opens up many black holes, is what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Well, that's like the whole you know, and I know
you probably are. You know when you hear people talk
about is the Earth round or is the Earth flat?
You know, I think that a lot of it, and
I came across some information here recently. You know, as
it pertains to our perception, it depends on the person
(01:24:20):
and their perception of reality and their perception of space
and time. Not everybody is the same in their perception,
even if they have a lot of similar experiences. You know,
that doesn't mean that their perception is identical to somebody else's,
(01:24:45):
you know, it just it it gets very complex when
you start talking about perception and reality creation and all
of that stuff, because you know, the people are so
locked into we live in this reality and this is
(01:25:08):
the only thing that we're shackled to. And I'm saying
that for a reason because i want people to realize
that there is more to this reality in what we
perceive that we're sackled into. And you know, you do
(01:25:30):
have the ability to change it, but it's not something
that's going to be easy for the simple reason that
you know, everything that we're exposed to from the time
that we're born is a is an untruth in a
lot of ways, or is untrue, and it is a
(01:25:55):
conditioning as well to believe certain ways that keep you
locked into the matrix of what this reality is, and
to break free from that is sometimes not an easy task.
(01:26:15):
And you know, I'm sure that there are powers and
forces that that be that don't want even one person
to be broken, broken free from the from the matrix
and understand reality as it really is. You know. Yeah,
(01:26:38):
you know, we sit here, we can only perceive five
percent of what's actually in our reality.
Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
That's right, unless you take d MT or smoke salvia.
I saw that comment in there, so you'll Billy herb listen.
I know about Salvia. I'm not going to tell you
what happened and how I know, but it was in college,
and uh, I do recall I thought I was in it,
and I'm not gonna say I did it, but I
might have, okay briefly, and uh, don't ask why, y'all. Okay,
(01:27:12):
but uh but I went to what is that movie contact? Contact?
I guess I space traveled, and I don't do stuffing
like that. I think it's because I didn't do stuff
like that. And and yeah, it was that Jodie Foster.
I was in that Jodie Foster movie Contact for like
about five minutes, I think, and I traveled to wherever
she was and that so uh yeah, that's all I know, right,
(01:27:38):
I shouldn't talk about that on air, but I did.
Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
It was long.
Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
It was long. I was like eighteen maybe nineteen, and uh, yeah,
I can. I guess I have more just as much
as space traveler as Katie Perry, y'all, I guess, and
that yeah, that case. But uh but anyways, it's uh,
you know, do you know how many times Mark I
have sat in my car this week and I have
just seen in there and I've dazed out and I've
(01:28:01):
zoned out, just pondering that conversation that I had with
doctor Ram and talking about how first of all, you know,
I'm all over the place now because I used to
think that I had it all figured out, but now
that conversation opened my mind up so much to like
the possibilities of everything being totally wrong. And I'm thinking
(01:28:24):
I'm getting everything figured out. It's like I have nothing
figured out. Nothing. It's like deeper than I thought it was.
And I'm sure it's like to the audience too. It's
almost like kind of difficult, like to even have conversations
about this right now, because like what I thought was
reality is not reality at all.
Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Yeah, well I'm not going to lie. Yeah, I'm not
going to lie. I listened to that interview, and you know,
even with my not to say that your perception is
any less than mine or anything like that, I'm not
saying that. But even at the at the level that
I'm thinking at personally, when I got done listening to
(01:29:08):
that issue for you, my head hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
It was a lot to kind of take in. It was,
but it but it actually that man knows what he's
talking about, okay, And and he's been doing a lot
of wild stuff, a lot of experiments and a lot
of I don't know, just I resonated with what he
was saying. Let's just put it that way, and if stuff.
I'd never heard of some of the things he talked about,
(01:29:35):
but some of it just made a lot of sense.
And and here's the thing, like, we don't have to
agree with what everybody says that comes on my shows,
you know what I mean. There's a lot of people
I may not agree with a lot of things they say, okay,
but I still have a fun conversation and we're still
you know. It's just getting everybody and myself included, to think,
maybe change our perspective on things just a little bitter
(01:29:57):
just you don't have a changer's perspective, just kind of
look at things from it different angle and kind of
see where they're coming from and integrated into what you
already know. That's all. That's all.
Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Well, just like I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm
a strong proponent of f AFO. I'm also I'm also
a strong I'm also a strong component of find out
for yourself, you know. And one thing I've always said
this and as part one reason why I'm not a podcaster,
(01:30:28):
is because I do not want a following. I do
not want like people following me because they cannot think
for themselves and they're looking to me to give them answers.
I want people in my time, and I'm going to
use the word time in my time who not just
(01:30:52):
listen to what I say as a possibility, but who
take what I say and use that to formulate their
own answers for themselves. Because what's right for me may
not be right for you, may not be right for
somebody else. And the only one that can find out
(01:31:15):
what's right for for for them for themselves is that person.
And you know, I don't want I don't I don't
want the weight of having a blind follower. Yeah, if
that makes sense, I know.
Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
That's why. That's why I'm kind of I stressed while
to goo, like take take anything, like things that you hear,
and if you resonate with it, see how you can
integrate it into what you already know, like integrate it
and like I don't know, just to see things from
a different perspective sometimes is a good thing and hearing
other ideas on stuff, because like, here's the thing, Like
we're all learning that we've been lied to about so
(01:31:56):
much stuff, and we think we're down this rabbit hole.
We go down a lot of rabbit holes here on
my channel, But what if the rabbit holes even way
deeper than what Like we think we're going on these
rabbit holes, But y'all, the rabbit holes are a way
deeper than what we've barely scratched the service well.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
I mean, even if you just look at it from
the perspective of the cryptic community or the paranormal communities
or whatever you know, I mean, there are so many
things going on that are untrue that you don't know
(01:32:33):
from one minute to the next what's what's true and
what's not. That's why it's you know, that's why I myself,
I've stopped looking at you know, websites and databases online
and YouTube videos used to be back in the day
you could listen to somebody's encounter story and and use
(01:32:57):
that as a as a baseline of information for your
own research. You can't do that anymore because there's too
many people out there who are ai generating stuff and
or fabricating things on their own that are just not true,
(01:33:17):
that are totally fictional. And the sad part about it
is they're not doing doing the responsible thing in saying
this is fictional, this is creepypasta, this is whatever. It
(01:33:38):
is not a real experience, but they're in fact passing
it off as being something that's real. And that's where
that's where it tends to go. That's the direction that
things are going. And you know, my caution to everybody is,
(01:34:02):
you know, I work in the technology sector, and I
will tell you using AI is not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Yeah. Yeah, they say it makes you kind of I
don't say dumb because I use it. I mean, we're
you know, it is what it is. But then again,
if if you don't use it, you're getting left behind
too though, So I mean you got to have like
a balance with it.
Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Well, here's here's the thing. Here's the thing with that.
You have to look at it from the perspective of
why is that soul? You know, ask you you have
to ask that question, why is it so? I've heard it.
If you don't use AI, you're going to be left behind.
Why is that so? And the reason why it's so
(01:34:53):
is because these people that are in places of a
authority and power, they know that if you use AI,
that it's going to numb your creativity and that it's
going to cause you to become dependent upon the AI
to do creative thinking, and your ability to do that
(01:35:20):
is going to be lessened, So it creates that dependency. Meanwhile,
they're in the background, behind the curtain, pulling the strings,
controlling the algorithms and controlling the AIS and doing what
they do. So I just urge people to be cautious
(01:35:46):
with when it comes to AI.
Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Yeah, we need to be careful with it. And you
know what, I was hearing somebody say the other day
that AI cannot read cursive handwriting. Okay, I can't pick
up a cursive and I don't know. I think it's
a portant that we all write in cursive, y'all. If
you don't know how to write cursive, yes, not yet, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Because think about it, They're they're using AI. They're using
AI to translate different ancient writings and stuff like that.
So if you have now public publicly accessible as may
may not be able to read cursive writing, but I
guarantee you that there are AIS out there that you
(01:36:32):
may not be publicly available that.
Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Can Yeah, Nathan said that cursive is a rabbit hole too,
hold only pulls it up. Yes, Aaron. You know that's interesting, Aaron,
because I do a mixture too when I draw, when
I write, I do cursive and not cursive. Uh without
you know, that's just how I write. It's like a mix.
(01:36:54):
So but yeah, that is that's a rabbit hole too.
It definitely is. It's really interesting to to into that.
And uh and also when you're talking about how AI
takes away your you know, uh, your creativity right because
like you're you've got something doing it for you. And
we're even talking about people that write books to y'all.
I know, I know that's controversial and stuff. But I
(01:37:17):
have not written a book yet. But if I do,
I will not use AI because I spend a lot
of time and effort and money on college and got
a degree in English literature. Okay, so I got to
put that to use one day. Okay, but uh but
a lot of people, I mean even have people suggest
to me that I use like chat GPT to write
write a book. I was like, well, that's not me
(01:37:37):
writing a book, then that's AI writing a book, right,
But uh, but a lot of people are doing that,
and that that goes back around. We're gonna circle back
around to that question that I'm always asking and the
head of my research team, I always asks us what
does it mean to be human? And I think that
that is taking away our humanity? You know, using our
(01:37:57):
creativity is being human? Well, it's you need to make
a list.
Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Okay, Actually it's actually and not to interrupt you, but
it's it's actually an extension of the the lessening of
the human creativity that's already taken place by all the
deception and all the things that we're exposed to from
the time that we're born. Because you know, I mean
(01:38:27):
you think about it. You know, from the time that
you're born, you know, from the age of birth to
about seven eight years old, your mind is is operating
in a totally different it's it's actually operating in a
totally different mode than you are after that age, and
(01:38:52):
it's just operating on different frequencies than it is and
you basically are absorbing everything and forming the basis of
your reality based off of what you absorb. And you know,
that's why it's it's dangerous. In my opinion. Now, I
(01:39:18):
don't have any children, but if I did, I guarantee
you that their first eight years of life would be
very different than what any even different from what mine was,
because there are things that I was exposed to, you know,
like old television shows and stuff like that, you know
(01:39:42):
that formed a lot of mindsets, a lot of perceptions,
a lot of different different things, just because I was
exposed to him at a young age. And you know
(01:40:03):
who I really feel bad for are the children that
are that are left to their own devices and just
being exposed to all this stuff that is probably not
good for them to be exposing the exposing children to
in general, and they're absorbing it, and they're formulating their
(01:40:24):
perception of the world and their perception of reality based
on what they're absorbing, and it's all, in my opinion,
a vicious cycle. And then once they get exposed to AI,
the AI exposure takes that reduction in creative ability to
(01:40:48):
a whole different level. And it just Blade Runner.
Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
Man, I mean, you know, I'm doing the best I
can to. I know some of us in the chat
right now too. What's up? Coly Cully's here with sen
X Radio. Thank you for being here at coly. She
and I have kids, okay, and her son's a little
bit older mine. We've got kids. We were talking the
other night after I was on the show with her
and talking about raising our kids and stuff. My I
(01:41:20):
do everything I can to try to like make sure
my son has these skills that are kind of becoming
obsolete these days, like even cursive writing and stuff like that.
He is being taught cursive in his school, by the way.
I know they're saying that they're not they've taken cursive
out of schools. Well they haven't completely, because he is
learning cursive at school too, So so there's there's hope. Okay.
(01:41:42):
I don't know if they did start taking it out
and then they decided to put it back in the
curriculum or what, but but it's there. There's also that
whole thing about the subconscious mind flows through cursive writing
as well, Okay, and I use that like when I'm
doing the remote viewing, we do the ideograms and like
it's almost like a cursive type of writing as well
(01:42:04):
when we're doing remote viewing. Okay, and I always I've
mentioned this on the show. Before you know, before you
go to bed, if you have a question that you'd
like to be answered in your dreams, you write it
down in a notebook. With a notebook with paper and
a pen. It's got it. It needs to be a pen
so it runs smoothly, and you write it in cursive.
Write that question incursive, or whatever kind of conversation you
(01:42:26):
want to have with one of your past overloved ones
or whatever. If you want to talk to somebody and
you want it to be in your dream, write it
down in your book incursive, and lay that by your
bed at night. And then about ninety nine percent of
the time, you're probably gonna have a dream about it. Okay,
that night, and you may not remember it, but you're
probably gonna have a dream answering that question that you
(01:42:48):
wrote down incursive. Okay, write it in cursive. So yeah,
I learned that when I was learning remote viewing. Actually yeah, yeah.
And if you're a listen seeming to doctor Ram that
we had on Monday, this whole life that we're having
right now is just a big old dream. Anyways. And
he said, Mark, he said something so prophetic. He said,
(01:43:11):
he said, what happens when you die? I said, I
don't know. He said, you'll wake up, you wake up
from this dream. That's what he said. So I don't know,
it's it's like you said, I know your head was
probably kind of hurting the end of that show. Uh,
and mine was too a little bit. But I loved it, okay,
And uh, it was just because it was it was over.
(01:43:31):
It was like almost overload with all the information, all
the downloads I was getting as he was talking. And uh,
and I hope the audience. I hope the audience gets
that too.
Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Yeah, it was. It was very interesting, interesting to the
point that it caused you to cause your your brain
to hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Well, like I said, I've been sitting in my my
I've noticed I've been sitting in my truck this week
just kind of I'll like get home and I'll park
in the driveway and I'll just sit there looking out
the window and i won't get out of my car
because I'm thinking. I'm thinking. I'm pondering my whole life
and all the things that I thought I knew. It
was like, I don't know. Now I'm questioning everything even more,
and it's like where does this end? Does it ever end?
(01:44:14):
I hope not, because it's actually kind of fun, you know,
but it's like how deep does this rabbit hole really go? Yeah,
I don't know, Yeah how deep? And when it comes
to the cryptids too, and like you know, we're uncovering
a lot of this, like black magic is being done
and spells. We're talking about cursive writing and spelling and spells,
(01:44:37):
and people are writing that in the chat right now
about the spells and curses and cursive writing. I mean,
you know, as it pertains to even the cryptids and
stuff too. I never, in a millionaires even thought when
I first started doing big foot field research, I wasn't
thinking that bigfoots could be demonic and stuff like that
(01:44:57):
wasn't even in my that was never mentioned to me.
I never thought about it. I've never felt that when
I was out in the field. But then I started
doing podcasting. I got a lot of people coming on
my show, you know, people that are in the chats
and on my show saying, you know, bigfoots could be
demonic or nephelum and all that kind of stuff, and
so you know, stuff like that that, Like I mean,
(01:45:19):
I've watched myself. If I were to go back and
watch my shows from when I first started doing them
until today, like a lot of things have changed. Okay,
you know I have. I have been so open to
all of this information that my conversations are much different
today than they were four or five years ago, even
on air.
Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Same hen mh.
Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Yeah, what do you think about louis Okay, well, I
know we're talking about Louisiana earlier and all your experiences.
Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
I was going to ask you about the whole dark
arts aspect of all of this, because you know, I know,
you've got to know a little something. I don't know,
growing up in Louisiana was like voodoo and black magic
a big thing when when you were growing up where
you lived.
Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Yeah, and in Louisiana, voodoo is is very predominant. It's
a predominant practice. You know, it's it's uh uh you know,
as far as you know the dark arts go, there's
a lot of that stuff that goes on as well.
(01:46:25):
But I think that generally speaking, there's there seems to
be an increase in that kind of activity, not just
down in the Dirty South, but all over the place
in general. You know, I just I don't know, I
(01:46:53):
don't have an answer for why that's the case. But
outside of a biblical perspective. Uh, it's it's it's hard
for me to explain why there seems to be an
increase in that kind of activity. You know, if you
look at the biblical perspective, you know it it says
(01:47:16):
that you know that this this world is currently under
the control of dark forces and they are the rulers
of this world. And it's it's it's hard to say,
(01:47:48):
you know, are people Are people just that far gone?
Because I mean, I mean if you just look around,
you know, I mean you hear some of the crazy stuff.
I fire up Facebook sometimes and I look at it
and it's like, you know, I don't know how many
(01:48:08):
how many times I've seen where and it's not just men.
I've seen instances of women as well, sexually assaulting children.
Oh no, and you know they were you know, arrested
or whatever. And I see those news reports flash by,
and I'm like, what is wrong with people?
Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
I mean, you know, ask possessions and stuff. I mean,
I don't know, it is really weird. It's like, I mean,
do those people even have souls? That's the question, and
that's a serious question. Yeah, do they have souls? And
I don't think I don't think they all do. Yeah, literally,
I don't think they don't. I don't think they do.
Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
I mean, to me, there is there is, there is
no world in exists that's where that is acceptable. Uh
in in in my perception. No, absolutely, And and I
can I can assure you that if I was around
(01:49:14):
anything like that that it would be a FAFO situation.
Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
Yeah, MPCs, Thank you, Robin. That's right. I was just
thinking that earlier today. I'm like, Okay, I gotta watch
how I say this. There's there's a lot of NPCs
in this world, a lot and uh and uh and
this is something else. I mean when I say that,
I've been sitting in my truck and like just sitting
(01:49:40):
there and like staring out the window and like not
getting out of my car when I get home and
stuffcause I'm thinking about stuff so much. I've been thinking
about MPCs and uh, like the role that so many
people have in our lives just be like background characters
of like kind of getting our way and you know,
trip us up up and stop us and stuff. It's
(01:50:01):
just weird. It's really weird. And uh, thinking about life
is like a computer simulation or something, you know. Yeah,
deep thoughts with Jessica, the Crypti hunters.
Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
And then and then you have the ones that the
people that shut you out and exclude you and I
act like you don't exist, and you know, you have
to ask, you have to ask, why do they do that?
You know, I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't
me personally, you know, from my perspective, you know, I don't.
(01:50:40):
I don't worry about that because I'm not really looking
for notoriety or faming anything, or recognition for anything. But
it seems like the people that are tend to operate
in that, in that in that sphere of you know,
(01:51:02):
it's kind of like they get get it in their
mind that well they don't want notoriety or whatever. Well
I'll take it. You know. It's like.
Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Weird MPCs. Yeah, NPCs are very interesting because like I didn't,
I didn't know a whole lot about them. I know
that Bigfoot Dwarf and I did that show on like
the Cabbage Patch Kids and the Orphan Trains. We talked
about the Old World's fairs and stuff, and we talked
about pod people. Pod people. That's some kind of personal
(01:51:40):
some kind of drune. It's basically a drone Personal operational
drone or something like that, and those are like basically MPCs, right,
like non player is it non playable characters or non
player characters? Yes, okay, well it's just like, uh so
was humans? I mean, is that?
Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
Is that? What that is? Like?
Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
I don't want to say clones, but you're in the tech.
Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Well, it's kind of like if you look at a
video game, right, A lot of these video games like
Battlefield six and you know.
Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
Uh got cod it cod earlier today he plays at
C O D or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
Yea, you know they have these. If you don't have
enough people to be in your party or your group,
the game will general generate one for you generated player,
and the AI the a I will run it for
you within the game. And you kind of look at
m PCs the same way. You know, if this reality
(01:52:45):
is a simulation and we do have m PCs or
were there is a name for them within the gamers
gamer sphere, but they're basically AI AI generated players, and
uh you know, you have to you have to ask
(01:53:08):
what they're doing because even in the games, the AI
generated players do dumb stuff and they do things that
are not don't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
Oh, well, it like trip you up and like, yeah,
it'll set you back, right, Yeah, that sets the whole team.
Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Back and actually work against you.
Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
I mean how many I'm just gonna say, like I said,
I had to be careful how I say this, right,
But I mean I have throughout my lifetime. Notice there
have been I hate to say, like we live in
the Truman Show or something. Sometimes I do feel that way,
and there are people sent in to slow me down,
(01:53:51):
and uh, and it gets It's a slippery slope there.
I'm just gonna put it. I'm just gonna leave it
right there, slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
So but the good news is is is that if
they are operating under the influence of an AI generated
or AI influenced mindset, we have the ability to modify that.
Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
We have the ability to modify that in real time.
Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
Okay, that's what they don't want you to know.
Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
Oh tell, do tell. Wait, this is for entertainment purposes
only in case I might get shut down right now.
Let's hear it. Let's hear it, Mark, So please, there is.
Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
A thing and within the text sphere. You know a
lot of people, a lot of people look at computers
and computerized systems and programs. You know, that's what that's
what I was. That's what I did for a while programming.
(01:55:03):
A lot of people look at it as, oh, well,
I'll just make a program and I'll tell the program
to do this, this, and this. But what they don't
understand is that the program can not only do what
you program it to, it can do other things as well.
The question and they look at the generation of it
(01:55:23):
from an incorrect perspective. They look at it from the
perspective of this is what I wanted to do, and
this is what I programmed it to do. But they
don't look at it from the perspective of can it
do this or can it do that? Or it's not
will it, it's can it and if it can, it
(01:55:45):
will h okay, And without getting into there, basically, you
can influence a program to do something that it's not
supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
Oh, you got to crack the code kind of like
on the matrix.
Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Maybe, Oh, it's kind of kind of kind of where
I was going with that.
Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
Okay, so there is a solution to it, m.
Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
But they don't they don't want they don't want people
to realize that. They want people to be locked into
the box and only consume the information.
Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
Obey, obey until you take your glasses down and you
see it on the glass. Actually, you put your glasses on.
Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
Here's the one for you. I was the other one
that I got up and I was getting ready for work,
and that movie They Live was on at the side, Uh,
get married and reproduced. When he was taking his glasses
up and down, there was a sign that said, get
married and reproduce. Reproduce. They want you to reproduce. And
(01:57:05):
you know, you have to look and ask the questions.
We as people, if we're not in PCs, we have
to ask the question, why do they want us to
do the things that they're influencing us to do, And
once we find out the answers to that, we will
(01:57:26):
be better able to navigate our world, our existence and
our time here.
Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Yeah. Well it's becoming enlightened to it as well. Thank you, Renee,
You're awesome. Thank you for being here, he says. Many
folks that are enlightened are sigmas.
Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
You met sigmas, sigmas and can pick MPCs easy. So yeah,
you know what, once you start noticing things and the
way people are and stuff, it's easier to pick them out.
I think it is. It probably takes a lot of
practice and a lot of character development situations, as I
(01:58:11):
like to call it.
Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
Yeah, and the hardest, the hardest part about navigating this
life and our existence and NPCs and other people and this,
that and the other. You know, I used to be
real bad about this. Uh So when somebody would do
(01:58:34):
something that I didn't really agree with, I used to
get upset about it, get been out of safe and
get mad at him and all this stuff. Now I
don't care. Do what you do, what you're gonna do,
you know, if it if it, if it affects me negatively,
then I will adjust. If it doesn't, then go on
about your business and handle handle it, handle your business.
(01:58:58):
But I don't get been out of safe about people
I used to. It does not. It does not benefit
you in any way to get upset about something that
you have no control over, because at the end of
the day, you don't really have control over what other
people do or say. You can think that you do,
(01:59:21):
but you really don't. Because if they're gonna do and
say something that you don't agree with, even if you
say you know, don't don't do that. Don't say that
that doesn't take it out of their out of their
mind or their thought processes. That's not gonna that'sn't I mean,
(01:59:45):
it may stop them from doing it, but initially it
doesn't change that person. So you have to you have
to weigh whether or not it's gonna be beneficial to
to get upset about it. I guess, you know. I mean,
(02:00:05):
like I said, I don't. I just I don't get
to being out of shape about things anymore, because you know,
it's it's that, and it's it's yeah, it's a fruitless endeavor,
you know. And at the end of the day, that's
(02:00:26):
what they want us to be doing. They want us
to be upset with everybody. They want us to be
in discord and not the program, but in strife and
disagreement and conflict. And we are not designed to be
that way as human beings. We're not designed to. I
(02:00:51):
mean we're not We're not designed to inherently be destructive
towards other humans. But through conditioning and deception, we have
become that. And the only way that we can change
that is to come to the realization that that is
(02:01:16):
not how we should be. And it's up to the
individual to make a conscious effort to change themselves to
not be that way.
Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
Yeah, Nico's hauling is right. They want our stress frequency
and then they eat us. That's true, Well they do.
It's that loosh, right, the loosh. That's what I'm not saying.
The NPCs eat the loosh. But something, something does, something knows. Yeah,
and the soilent green it's people, so they can feed
(02:01:57):
us with a renewable resource. Man. Yeah, it's I'm just
glad that we there's like a solution to a lot
of this. And if you watch these soft disclosure movies
like The Matrix and The Matrix Reloaded and all that stuff,
I mean, all these movies have have the truth in them.
(02:02:18):
Oh yeah, have the truth. We can unplug. We can
unplug from the matrix. You know. There's got to be
some kind of virus too, right.
Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
And that virus, that virus is that virus is not compliance. Yeah,
and you know, I mean ninety nine percent of the
control that is usurped against the people is through compliance.
Speaker 1 (02:02:48):
Right, going along with the crowd.
Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
If you just stop, no question, I want you to, then,
you know, I mean, you don't have to you don't
have to get bit out of shape and raised and
fight and argue and be violent towards people. You just
have to not agree to do what they want you
to do. You're not hurting anybody, You're just not doing
(02:03:14):
what they want.
Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
Yeah, exactly. That's why. That's why we get get those
targets on our backs. Mark too, so oh yeah, yeah,
but that's we're gonna get them. We're gonna get them regardless.
Might as well have fun with it, Oh yeah, right,
dance around a little bit, make it make it harder
eat a target to hit. I guess I don't know. Yeah, looseh.
(02:03:41):
Loose is the word.
Speaker 2 (02:03:41):
I know.
Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Barry hates that word. I know he calls it something
a jolly rancher that I'm like, I don't even know
what that means. But okay, yes, it's looseh. That's that's
how everybody remembers it. Okay. Lucia is that negative energy
that we put off when we're under stress and uh,
and and fear and what do I always say at
(02:04:02):
the end of all my shows, I'm like, don't live
in fear, right, uh? But but then of course some
people do say, like it is good that fear will
save your life as well. So don't don't ignore fear.
If something makes you feel scared, pay attention to that
and get the heck out of dodge if you need to. Okay,
but just don't live in fear in the context of like,
(02:04:23):
don't let it eat you whole. Don't let it eat you. Live,
you know, live in awareness, not the fear. Okay, don't
let it consume you. Yeah, don't let it consume you.
M bounty hunting Beer says, don't feed feed the energy winkers.
Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (02:04:45):
Yeah, don't siphon the loos. I'm not siphoning Loosh Andrew.
That's funny. Yeah, I mean, you never know where our
conversations are going, y'all. Okay, I know, I love I
love doing shows on my channel Mark. They just we
start off talking about one subject and then we end
up talking about sigmas and stuff. I love this too,
(02:05:06):
Thank you, Renee. He was defining what a sigma is.
It's like a it's an I think it's like an
alpha type personality kind of, but they're non conformist, okay,
and they kind of do their own thing. So I
heard my son calling himself a sigma the other day.
When he was playing video games with his friends. He's like,
I'm a Sigma and I was like, oh cool, And
I actually looked it up to see what it meant.
Speaker 2 (02:05:28):
Well, just so just so you're aware he's talking about
it's something totally different than oh is it? Yes, you
know in the game Yeah, and the gamer sphere, Sigma
is is like saying something's cool or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
Oh well whatever, I had no idea. He's well, you
know what, I feel like an old lady when I
when I'm talking to him now, because he just he
speaks a whole different language than me. And I was
like that with my my parents too. I'm sure. Yeah,
everything was totally radical, dude, back when I was a kid,
(02:06:06):
you know, gnarly bitching all that. Yeah, actually that was
a cuss word. I couldn't say that one. But but yeah,
it's kind of like that. Okay, Well so now I
means something else with the kids. Dad, Well he still
is a forward thinker though, no matter what. But but yeah,
(02:06:31):
I don't know what what do we have on the
what do we have in our horizon?
Speaker 3 (02:06:35):
Mark?
Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
What's going on? I know you got any trips planned
to the l B L. I mean, I know you
live up there. What you got going on?
Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
Uh? I guess probably the bigger question is not do
I have any trips? But do you have any trips
to the l b Land? Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:07:01):
Maybe there may be several. At this point, I don't know.
I've never been to the LBO before. I have been
invited up there. I will not say when or where
I'm going. I don't even know where I'm going, honestly,
but but I have been invited. I might be coming
up there. Yes, at some point.
Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
Good. It's good to experience. And you know, some would
have you believed that there's death around every corner, and
that may be the case in some locations, but I
can assure you that the chances of that being the
case are going to be kind of slim. You know.
(02:07:41):
That doesn't mean don't be careful and don't be wary
of people that you don't know, because there there are
bad things that happen, But like you said, don't live
in fear and just check it out and have a
(02:08:03):
as good an experience as you can and uh kind
of go from there.
Speaker 1 (02:08:09):
Oh, I'm going to go hike in and take my
hammock all by myself, and I'm just kidding. I would never.
I don't think i'd ever do that at the LBL.
I'm not. I would not volunteer to be Bigfoot nor
dog man bait at the LBL.
Speaker 2 (02:08:22):
I have.
Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
I have my boundaries in my limits, and I know
better that one. Yeah, i'd at least take somebody with
me if I did. Yeah, we're both going We're both
gonna get taken out. Okay, Yeah, I'm just saying, but.
Speaker 2 (02:08:41):
Yeah, I mean the reality of it is. You know,
for many years I researched over there by myself and
in a lot of remote locations for many years before
all the hype came out. So I mean, I'm still here.
What's left of me?
Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
What's the left of you? No loan hammocks. I'm gonna
wear my my spandex and take my hammock robin. Okay,
I'm just kidding. I'm not doing that. What's left of you? Though?
Oh my gosh, you sound like you've been through some
stuff out there, that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (02:09:22):
Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't kidd when I said I
was salty. You know, everybody starts out green, right, and
then they get you know, salty is a military term.
You know, salty is kind of like, you know, you're
you're not new anymore. You're you're not a rookie, and
(02:09:43):
you've you've experienced enough to know the ropes and know
what's up and that kind of thing, and uh so, yeah,
I mean, I mean the reality of it is, you know,
I can I can get in my vehicle and go
over there and be there ten minutes, so I could
(02:10:07):
go anytime. And that's generally something that I don't broadcast
for a lot of different reasons. I don't. I tend
not to talk about what I'm doing, when I'm doing it,
where I'm doing it, and all that, not because I'm
trying to hide anything from anybody, but because there are
(02:10:35):
let's just say, there are, there are forces out there
that don't want different things to be to be understood,
and being around those things sometimes is the only way
to understand them.
Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
You have, you have your own experiences, even at your home,
which is not that far from the LBO, and my goodness,
I think, honestly, Mark, I would not be surprised if
there's some sort of like portal near your property or something.
I mean, You've got so much going on there so
many things going on there in addition to the LBL
(02:11:22):
being right there. I don't know. I was going to say,
have you ever thought about moving? You don't want to
mean you enjoy it, right, I mean, like this is
how do you feel about living amongst all this stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:11:36):
Well? At first, just to be honest, yeah, I thought
it was cool, but it actually, like I said earlier,
it became a bit much, you know, I mean yeah, so,
I mean, moving to a different location is always an option.
(02:11:58):
And I hate to I hate to sound negative about
bigfoot and bigfoot research and bigfoot researchers, but I'm just
gonna be honest. You know, I had a good thing
going here until people started, Until people started, you know,
(02:12:20):
bringing a lot of unnecessary fictional attention to the l
B l oh.
Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
Fictional attention, oh over exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (02:12:36):
I mean, these these folks were going above and beyond
what you know fictional is. So I mean, it is
what it is, you know. And I'm not gonna call
names and throw people under the bus, but just know
that there are people out there that are operating on
an agenda, even you know, even then they even though
(02:13:00):
they get older podcasts to say, oh well, I love y'all.
Speaker 3 (02:13:04):
Y'all are so nice and so friendly, and thank you
for coming and listening to my show and provide input,
and we care about y'all so much. The truth of
the matter is they could really care less. The only
thing they want is a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
Of grease, a little money.
Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
A little bit of grease, and some attention.
Speaker 1 (02:13:32):
Oh my gosh. Well, you know, honestly, you know, my
good buddy part com Party David's been on the show.
You know, he's one of his main research areas is
up at you are in North Carolina, and and he was,
you know, after the whole is that finding Bigfoot? Is
that the name of that show? I don't know whatever
that show was about. Bigfoot went up there. It really
(02:13:54):
really pretty much ruined the whole area. Yeah, after the
it got popped and the TV show started doing their
filming there and everything, and uh. And so that's why
people are wondering why we don't give our locations away
and don't talk about it too much. It's because of that.
It ruins the research. You know. Yeah, I can imagine
that's happened with you too.
Speaker 2 (02:14:15):
Oh yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I'm not I'm
not gonna lie there, you know it has. It's to
the point now now nothing against documentarians and documentary making folks.
That's their their thing. But used to be you could
go to the I mean, you can still go into
(02:14:36):
the l bill and film. But now if you're going
to film for something like that, a documentary or you know,
if you're going to make money off of what you feel,
you have to pay fees in order to do that.
And I will tell you it ain't cheap.
Speaker 1 (02:14:59):
Oh the it's like LBL you do. Yeah, do you
have to like get permits and stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
And yeah, you got to get a permit to film.
Speaker 1 (02:15:06):
Okay, I thought, yeah, I think that's the same like
all the national parks, right, like any kind of government
owned you know, park I thought, yeah, I thought I
I thought I'd heard that before. You got to go
get like permits and stuff. And I'm sure a lot
of people do. But I mean, but what if it's
just like a podcast or something, you know, like just
say little old Crypto Huntress over here, and I'm just
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doing a little what we call like it, I guess,
like b roll or something for my for my little podcast.
I don't have to get a permit for that. Do
I or do I.
Speaker 2 (02:15:38):
It depends on what you're going to use.
Speaker 1 (02:15:39):
It for making money and stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:15:42):
Yeah, if you're making money off of it, yeah, you're
supposed to get a permit, and I can tell you
it is not cheap. And they want to know everything
about your operation. They want to know how many people
are involved. They want to know how long you're going
to film. They want to know where you're going to film.
They want to know what kind of equipment you're gonna
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have on site, just all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:16:08):
I didn't know all that really.
Speaker 2 (02:16:10):
Well.
Speaker 1 (02:16:10):
I knew there's a bunch of rules. You go places,
even like the you know, like Kennesau Mountain at the battle,
but you can't take like metal detectors and stuff. I mean,
there's some things you can't do with these places, right, Yeah,
these national parks they got rules, I guess, but I
don't know. I don't ever take my cameras out there anyways.
(02:16:31):
By cameras, I mean my cell phone to just go
fill oh man. But but anyways, Yeah, well that's that's interesting.
Big Foot Dwarf says Drone footage. Also I hear wow yeah,
huh oh well, well that's interesting. Okay, well, this has
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been a fun show tonight, Mark, I've really knowed this
one man. Of course, we went kind of deep on
some of these topics tonight too, and I learned all
about MPC somewhere talk for MPC and sigmas. Thank you,
Renee for giving us all those definitions about sigmas tonight too.
I learned a lot from you as well. So yeah, okay,
(02:17:17):
so we got to hear about your big foot encounter
on your kid. How old were you when that happened
about thirteen twelve fourteen?
Speaker 2 (02:17:23):
Yeah, I was somewhere around that age range, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:17:29):
Awesome, and that led you?
Speaker 2 (02:17:31):
Did that?
Speaker 1 (02:17:31):
Did that get you interested? Once?
Speaker 2 (02:17:32):
You? Did? You?
Speaker 1 (02:17:33):
When you had that experience, that did it? Obviously it
did open you up probably to more on a different frequency.
But do you see that's kind of like what put
you on your path to.
Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
Do Actually, actually, during that time, I was having a
lot more other types of experiences and I was more
focused on that, and Bigfoot was like the farthest thing
from my mind. I didn't actually you know, I mean,
Bigfoot was on my radar and I knew about it,
but I didn't actually start looking into that until I.
Speaker 1 (02:18:06):
Was twenty seven, twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (02:18:10):
When I had my second encounter.
Speaker 1 (02:18:15):
I was in my thirties when I started going on
Bigfoot expeditions, so yeah, I'm always trying to be careful
about not giving away my exact age on here. Okay.
I was somewhere in my thirties when I first started,
though before I had my son, So yeah, I was
(02:18:35):
a late bloomer okay when it came to the big
foot stuff. But also back when you started doing all
this too, it was like it wasn't that popular, just
like it wasn't popular when I started as popular as
it is today, yeah with everybody. So we didn't have
podcasts back then, okay, But anyways, well, I'm glad. I'm
glad that you got into it and you got into
(02:18:56):
your encounter tonight, And thank you so much for sharing
all your infinite wisdom with us, Mark, you really do.
It's wonderful to hear hear what you have to say
about these things.
Speaker 2 (02:19:06):
I'm always glad the blabber, even if, and hope that
somebody gets something out of it.
Speaker 1 (02:19:16):
Well I did, I did. I'm sure the audience did too,
I hope. Okay, I know y'all did. And man, we
had a wonderful chat tonight. Gosh, we had so many
great people in here, and a lot of other researchers
and stuff are in here tonight too, So thank y'all
so much for all the support y'all for being here,
and this has been a wonderful show.
Speaker 2 (02:19:35):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
Where can people find you they want to look you up?
Speaker 2 (02:19:39):
I have my website cryptoviille dot com, and then I
have a YouTube channel that has some videos on it,
not a whole bunch, but a few. I generally don't.
I only use Facebook primarily to maintain contact with families,
so I don't. I get on there like once a week,
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but usually I don't. I'm not on I don't live
on it, so but yeah, those those are the best
ways to find me.
Speaker 1 (02:20:16):
Yes, yeah, please go and subscribe to crypteville over on YouTube,
y'all and show some support and show some love and uh,
and definitely go visit the website over here at cryptiville
dot com. Yeah, and uh, and hopefully you'll be back
here with me again soon. And uh, I don't know,
we've we always come up with some good topics, don't we.
(02:20:37):
Oh yeah, we have some good conversations, so.
Speaker 2 (02:20:40):
Good, good discussion, and once again, I just want to
thank you for allowing me to come on the show.
Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
Oh yeah, of course you're always welcome. You have an
open in fight Mark, anytime you want to come on,
You're always welcome. Okay, okay, well, thank you, thank you,
and I want to thank the audience tonight. Thank y'all
so much for all the love and support, and thank
you to Nathan and to Larry Larry Sharp. Larry had
to come and go quickly in the beginning, I think,
(02:21:09):
but thank you to Larry and Nathan Davis for the
super stickers tonight. And yeah, well I hope everybody enjoyed
this as much as I did, as much as markin did,
and please come back and see me on Monday. I'll
be back Monday at one pm with another brand new
live show for you guys, and we'll have some more
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live shows all through next week as we always do.
And so y'all please be safe out there, keep your
head on a swivel. Like I always say, don't live
in fear, live in awareness. And yeah, I don't know
Mark any final thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:21:44):
No, I guess I don't really have anything for this
evening other than have a good night and we'll see
you on Monday.
Speaker 1 (02:21:55):
I'll see you Monday in the chat, all right, y'all. Everybody,
have a great, great night. Thanks him for being here.
It's been on your Saturday night with us, all right, y'all.
I will see you guys back here on Monday, all right,
by Mark, See y'all, Sis,