The Vanished: Missing People in National Parks with Greg Ogles

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Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, good evening, everybody. It is the Cryptid Huntress. I'm Jones.
Thank you so much for being here tonight. Gosh, do
we have a fantastic show for y'all. I have my
good buddy, mister Greg Ogles here in the studio and uh,
and he has a pretty fantastic documentary coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
The premiere will be in January and it is called
The Vanish And this is a film about people who
have gone missing within the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
And uh, and so tonight we are going to be
talking about missing people in some of our national parks
and more. We have a lot to talk about. Greg
and I actually spend time out in the woods with

(01:38):
our team together and uh, and we've got we've got
we've got some history, y'all. And Greg's Austin. I can't
wait to bring him up tonight. You guys are gonna
love it. And I can't believe this is his first
time on the crypt Hunter's channel. I am just shocked, man.
I should have Greg, you should have been coming on
a long time ago. I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry. We

(01:58):
gotta get you on more often and you will from
here on that I promise, okay, And so anyways, you guys,
we've got a lot to discuss. Actually, I'm featured in
his documentary and uh and I am discussing the remote
viewing data, which you guys are fully aware of. We
have done a show on the Dennis Martin case. We
covered that quite a while back, and we'll talk about

(02:19):
that a little bit tonight and I can't wait to
see it on the big screen with Greg. Okay, So
kitch popcorni'all we got some rabbit holes to dive down tonight,
and I can promise you it's going to be a
good time with Greg here tonight. So if you guys
would like to check out my archives on my shows
and my social media links and the calendar of events,

(02:41):
please go over to my website that's the Cryptidhuntress dot
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all of the remote viewing data from all these targets
I'm gonna be talking about tonight. We're probably gonna even
get back into a little bit of robot Grandma. Greg
is not even ready for this one. I didn't even
mention this, so we might talk about robot Grandma. I

(03:04):
know that's not on the West Coast, but I think
it does pertain to some of these missing persons and
maybe where these people are going with that case alone
right there. But all of these targets are on my
Patreon as well as the Ether. I was assigned the
Ether as a coordinate remote viewing target with John doubl day.
I put that up there, and also the Amaco Alien,

(03:26):
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Well let's get to our show tonight. Okay, and we

(03:49):
have a lot to discuss, and Greg is waiting patiently backstage.
Here we go. Okay, so I'm going to actually read
a quote. This is actually out of the David Lightest
Missing four one one series, one of his books. Okay,
people of all ages have been disappearing from national parks
and forests at an alarming rate, all under similar circumstances,

(04:11):
victims' families are left without closure. The Park Service has
refused to follow up and keep any sort of nationalists
and our database of the missing people thousands of missing people,
and researcher David Politis devoted many years of looking into
these disappearances, resulting in the identification of at least fifty
two geographical clusters of missing people in America. And that's

(04:34):
just in our national parks. Just in our national parks alone.
We have an epidemic of people going missing out of
the United States, all over North America and all across
the world. And of course y'all remember I was tasked
with remote viewing targets of these missing persons clusters. This
is a very hot topic. It's up for debate. It's

(04:55):
where all these people are going. But I was tasked
with remote viewing targets of the missing person's clas clusters
and the origin of the water death clusters. That's actually
separate from just the regular missing persons clusters. And of
course I was tasked with the remote viewing target of
the disappearance of Dennis Martin as well. If you guys

(05:16):
will remember he was six years old back in nineteen
sixty nine where he went missing on a family camping
trip in the Great Smoky Mountains National Forest. I think
it was at Cave's Cove, and some believe he was kidnapped,
potentially by feral people or even a bigfoot that are

(05:36):
said to inhabit the Great Smoky Mountains. His disappearance was
never solved. Of course my remote viewing data it had
some pretty good information in it. And of course, researcher
and filmmaker Greg Ogles recently assembled a team to investigate
the mysteries behind those who have vanished in the national
forests across North America, and I was interviewed for this

(06:00):
documentary and tonight I have Greg Ogles here of Relic
Films to discuss the vanished and so please help me.
Welcome to the show tonight, my good buddy, mister Greg Ogles.
Ooh hey, Greg, thank you for being here.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Thank you for having me. You know, if I'm on here,
you'll just let anybody on. I know that.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh God, well, okay, whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's really a pleasure. I've been waiting to be on here.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I know. I can't believe you haven't been on here sooner.
I'm sorry, Greg I thought.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I had to wait to get to the big time. Man.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I tell you what, You've got a fantastic documentary coming out.
Thank you so much for letting me be a part
of it.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Thank you. It is going to be really really good.
I can't I can't wait to show it. Really, you know.
It's uh, it's something that I haven't really done before.
And you know, my past films were more cryptid oriented.

(07:12):
And Adam Davies approached me with this idea about doing
a film on these missing people, and I was like,
I don't know about this, Adam. So we got together
and we uh, we got we started talking about, you know,
just the different angles of of what happened to him,

(07:35):
and I'm like, okay, so I look a good project,
so let's go with it. And uh, you know, I
started assembling, assembling pieces of a puzzle, you know, and
I took an angle that you don't see many people
taken in films these.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Days, remote viewing. You know that, I actually is a
really good sign for me because it shows that like
this is really becoming more popular and more accepted as
a way to look into things like missing people. I
think that's really important because listen, if I had a
loved one who went missing, I would exhaust all my

(08:14):
resources and all my options, and psychics are on that
list of people I would contact, probably first and foremost
remote viewers and psychics.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Oh. Absolutely, And you know, you would be really surprised
at how often remote viewers and psychics are actually contacted
by the police doing in investigations in missing people. They
don't let that out, but they are contacted very often.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Oh, my team has been contacted Greg plenty of times.
I've actually done several cold cases and law enforcement around
the North Atlanta area and stuff people will be going missing.
I can name at least two cases that I'm am
very familiar with and the audience will be familiar with.
One of them Runaway Bride. I don't know if you

(09:01):
remember her. That was one of the cases that the
guys on my team that was before I was a
part of their team. They had been tasked with that
and one of the guys located where she was actually
and located figure out that she was alive and had
cut her hair and gotten on a Greyhound bus and
all that through remote viewing. Yeah. Yeah, but I've actually

(09:22):
done some remote viewing cold cases. One the bodies are
usually usually bodies they're not they're usually not alive by
the time they come to us and ask for help
on the cold cases. But but I've done two pretty
well known cases. So yeah, yeah, he's my point.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
You know, I don't know other people who are gifted
with they call them sydeicics, remote viewers, what you know,
whatever you want to call them. I think they're all
using the same tools, uh, to at least me personally,
I think they're using all the same tools. Uh. I
know several of them, and they've all been contacted by

(10:04):
by you know, authorities trying to you know, trying to
get some help with with missing cases. But yeah, this
this film turned out really really well. Again it's it's
going to be pretty dark, you know. The other two
films were, uh the other two were The Legend of
the Dony Borger, which was my first film and you

(10:27):
can watch it on twov whatever. And really didn't know
what we were doing when we put it together. It
was a learning curve, but it's a really good film though,
it's still really good. Then the second film was The
Land between the Lakes and it is fantastic, absolutely fantastic.
It's got an encounter, like there's not been an encounter

(10:49):
documented like it is documented in the UH The Land
between the Lakes, But this film is a little bit different.
It's like, like I said, explores the the the mystery
behind these missing people, and you know, it's UH. Sometimes

(11:10):
when when I I found myself when I was doing
some of these UH interviews and diving into the information,
it was very difficult at times to separate myself from
from being too involved with what was going on because
you start reading some of this and you know, at

(11:33):
times I would get like almost emotionally involved, and you know,
I had to move away from it for a bit.
But that was something I was unexpected in the film.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, you really. You know, my sister, let's
just say she used to be a nine to one
one dispatcher and you know, and I'm going to kind
of liken it to something kind of like that, like
first responders having to become hardened to some of this
and kind of have to cut off kind of like
put up a wall or a boundary emotionally when you're
dealing with topics like this, like even with the're remote viewing.

(12:05):
You know, I'm trained to like not get emotionally into
it just to observe, you know what I mean, because
it can be Listen, it can be devastating, especially when
you're remoteview and missing children and things like that.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, you know, and thought I would have been prepared for,
you know, everything that I would felt going into this
because you know, as a traffic engineer, part of my
part of my job at one time was to investigate
very difficult craft situations where it be you know, pedestrian
train whatever. And I did a lot of train ones

(12:40):
and so I've seen some you know, some gruesome things.
So I thought I was prepared for this, but alas
was not so, and it was a learning curve for me.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah. Well, you know, I think it's important that we
do explore these missing people. I mean, if it were
my loved one, I would want to always keep looking. Okay,
I don't know how I mean that. That's I want
to say. It's almost worse than like knowing for sure
that your loved one has died, because at least you
have closure. Imagine like not being able to know where

(13:17):
your loved ones are, especially your kids, your husband, your wife,
your parents. I mean, it's got to be just absolutely devastating.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, and not only devastating, but when there's in some
of these cases, there's absolutely zero information none, there's no
sign of where these people went. I mean, there's there's
no articles of clothing left behind, there's no signs of struggles.
There's just nothing. They're just vanished or calling. And some

(13:45):
of those situations, you know, they have to be incredibly
frustrating and heartbreaking, you know, yes, And I would you know,
if I had a loved one that was missing like that,
I would appreciate others coming to the rescue.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's right. Listen, we're all training and tracking and stuff. Okay, Greg,
you listen, You've got good connections. I'm just saying, you
know a lot of good people that are expert trackers
and stuff. You know, who to call if something were
to happen. Right, Yeah, we know we got trackers and
all that, and remote viewers and search and rescue experts
and survivalists and all that.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
So I've been blast to be around very good and
talented people.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, me too, Me too. And and one thing I
wanted to bring up. I know we're going to show
the trailer for your documentary here in just a minute,
but Greg, I had mentioned to the audience before I
brought you up that you and I have spent time
in the out in the field together A couch of
times we have. Actually, I guess i'll show some proof
evidence right here, Okay, some photographic evidence.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
This is the only picture I could find of me
and Greg together out in the field. But we're out there,
I think. I run from the cameras, y'all, I run
from the cameras. We're out in the woods. But there's
me and Greg over there on the far side.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, we're standing right there together. We are.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
We are. This is actually the same day that I
did the interview, I think, or maybe it was the
day before I did the interview for your documentary. So
but yeah, we we.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Had a we had Tony there too. Yeah that that
that that was the weekend or the week that we
did the interview.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
That's right, it was. Yeah, we had a big old
crowd out there. They were doing another documentary with the
team out there as well. So so yeah, but but
so I only brought I wanted to bring that picture
up because we spend time out at the meadow together. Yes,
and the meadow everyone on my channel knows the Meadow
is a place of heigh strangeness. We've had a portal

(15:44):
incident that happened out there, and you know, and I
have to question. We're talking about missing people out of
national parks and state parks and just forests in general.
You know, could it be portals and stuff? I mean,
with our boots on the ground experience out there, no
one was out there, it couldn't. It may not be

(16:06):
just people. It could be like portals and things like
that too, right at.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know, for a long time I was sort of
on the fence about portals until I started interviewing Trey
and all of the group with the Metal Project, and
I saw that, I mean that video evidence is very
difficult to deny, right, It's hard to deny that you

(16:32):
can't hide from the clear. So and I was like
that kind of pushed me over toward yeah, like ninety percent. Yeah,
the portals exist. Until I started filming for the Land
between the Lakes, I saw one. I saw a portal
at the Land between the Lakes.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Tell me about it.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yes, Well, it was one of our first nights there, right,
and we were out orb watching. Well, I see orbs
all the time, you know, they're nothing new. I don't
know what they are, but I see them all. We
see them all the time. Right, So we were out
in ward watching and I saw a color of light
that I hadn't seen before. Right, And granted, you know,
this is one o'clock in the morning or so roughly,

(17:17):
and so it's pitch black where we are, pitch black
and cold and very cold, very very cold. And I
saw a color of light that I hadn't seen before.
So I was like, what is that? What is it?
And I couldn't see the source of it. So I
started maneuvering around a little bit, you know how you
do through the trees, started like we're looking back to
the slid. So I got into a position where I

(17:37):
could actually see the source. Right. It was a freaking portal.
It was a rectangle, rectangle, just it was like somebody
hung a picture about you know, up in the sky
or not say up in the sky. It was only
about three foot off the ground, three or four foot
off the ground, but I was able to see into it. Now,

(18:00):
I don't know where the other side was. It might
have been on the other side of Earth, it might
have been on Pluto. I don't know where it was,
but it was.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Day daylight.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
It was daylight wherever it was, it was daylight. That
was the color of the light that was emanating from
this portal, right, it was day daylight coming out of it.
And I was looking at it. I was like, and
I was just gobsmacked because I was not prepared to
see one, much less being able to see to somewhere else. Right,

(18:34):
And then you know, somebody else that was in a
group kind of shining a flashlight out toward that way,
and it was going.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Dang it, lights out people.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
You know, or horb shopping or looking lights out shopping. Yeah,
seriously though. But the amazing thing though, about two minutes
later and orb came up right from where that portal was,
came out from that direction, you know, and it just

(19:07):
came up kind of settled down and hung out with
us for a while.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Wow. That's amazing. That's amazing. I mean, that's the one
constant that we've always had from the very beginning, since
I started doing bigfoot research back in like twenty eleven. Orbs.
It's a constant, and its orbs are not only out
in the woods, they're like at haunted houses. And like,
I mean, it's kind of like the it's like the
thing that connects all the paranormal stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's like it is. And you know, doing all of this,
I've come to like going back to what I did
for eleven. You know, it was my job to find
pieces of a puzzle and put them together to make
a picture. Right. Well, I've been doing this all along

(19:50):
while I've been outcryptid honting, and I've come to the
conclusion that I think bigfoots, but not only bigfoots, but
I think bigfoots have the ability to transform themselves into
an energy form, and that's how they traverse portals. Okay,
so if you go back and you look and see

(20:13):
at the portal footage at the meadow, you know, the
two individuals that went into the portal, right, what happened
to them? They both appeared, well, they disappeared, and afterwards
they developed an aggressive form of cancer, right, and both
have passed away unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Since well one of them got cancer into the other
one of them had a heart condition, he had a
heart attack.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, well they both passed away, yes, right, yes, So
was it was it directly related to the portal? I
don't know, I don't know, don't know. However, I'm thinking, well,
I mean it's is it a coincidence? Could be, But
if it's not a coincidence, perhaps it's not healthy for

(20:57):
people to walk into portals. You know, it's organic material, right,
And I think that's and because I saw the portal
and I saw an ORB come up from there, and
when I filmed Booger, we were filming an ORB, right,
you know, and we thought we only was catching the ORB.
And you know, later on uh, during post, Brent came

(21:21):
up to it was say hey, hey, hey, we got something.
We got something. I'm like, yeah, we've got an ORB, Brent,
you know what? But no, we caught the crawler, this
thing crawling between us and the ORB, and we caught it, like,
you know, we didn't use any kind of passive light
or anything with the camera. I mean, it was just
I mean, we didn't use any active light. It was

(21:42):
a passive camera, so there was no light being used.
So he had no idea that we were turning on
that camera anyway. So when we turned it on, maybe
it detected the EM field when it came on, and
it was like an old crap moment. It was you
can see it like it didn't know where to go,
but it's crawling right, and then behind it that's orb

(22:02):
goes nuts just weird by just just getting bright down,
bright and dim and uh, the camera was trying to
focus on the crawler because it was it was physically there, right,
and then it gives up and it focuses on the orb,
and then the crawler is able to get away, you know,

(22:24):
after it kind of gets blurry, right. So it's just
weird that orbs and it are so connected to big Foot.
I think that they really can transform themselves into an
energy form. They're not really from here. They may spend
some time here, but I don't think they're really from here,
and they're able to traverse portals in a form.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh yeah, I agree. And I've got my own stories
about seeing orbs and flashes of light through the trees
and then like we I had a brown orb, like
an oranges brown orb up in North Georgia one night
and it shot through the trees, and right as it
shot through the trees, I heard a hoof like a howl.
And it wasn't a how it was like a it
was a huff and a growl. Not it wasn't a

(23:09):
house a huff and a growl and it was I mean,
we were so startled by it. We both turned their
flashlights on. My buddy Matt and I both turned our
flashlights on. And it was not a bear. We were
thinking it might be a bear, but it was. It
was definitely a big but definitely a bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I mean really, yeah, that really sounds like what we
captured at the Limb between the Lakes. I mean, you know,
we were out getting all of our film gear ready
and all over here. I hear all of a sudden,
they hear a kind of gruffy how sound whatever, growl
or whatever, and it was on. Then you know, this

(23:48):
counter lasted like twenty five minutes and we have it all.
It's all on film and everything. But you can hear
their growls, huffscrout, whatever it is that they're doing. Yeah,
I agree with you, And that there was orbs all around,
so I don't know what those things are, though, I
wish what the orbs were.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, let's let's let's take a let's take a let's
take a moment to think about this for a minute,
because we got all these missing people. We're gonna talking
about missing people tonight of course, and and we're we're
experiencing portals out there, our full teams experiencing portals. Uh,
you've experienced your own portal. We've we've had multiple portals.
We had a portal that opened up in my base

(24:27):
camp with my team when I own another team, not
not the Meadow team, but another team I'm on a
long time ago. And and two creatures crawled out of it.
One of them got out of it, and another one
got sucked back in as it closed. So and it
was right off the Ground's kind of like the one
that you saw a little while. But nonetheless, let's just
say we have these portals, Okay, we've got these missing people.

(24:49):
Imagine if these portals could be weaponized in some kind
of a way, Greg, And and maybe people are And
I'm not saying it's just Kryptis doing it. I think
humans might have access to some kind of portaling technology
and the potential of people not just walking into it,
being grabbed and sucked into portals' I don't know. I've

(25:09):
always thought that could be a possibility to but I
don't know. It may just sound crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
No, I don't think it's crazy at all, Jessica, I
think it's it's something that the average person really hasn't
thought about because the average person doesn't go out and
experience these kind of things, and you know, they think, oh,
that's whoy. It's not whoy. It's real. These things are real.

(25:34):
And you know, in my personal opinion, if you're walking around,
a portal just just opens up, you get sucked into it.
And I think that that could explain some of these
missing people where there's absolutely no evidence of them at all.
What I mean, just all of a sudden, they're and

(25:55):
they're gone. They're gone, boom, just like that. Yes, and
there's no evidence of what happened to him. Scott Carpenter
had filmed a portal before he had passed away, and
you can sort of see something at the edge of

(26:16):
that portal that he had filmed. And we actually went
there during the making of The Vanished. Oh yes we did.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, I wonder if that's okay. So I actually go
out in the field sometimes with Harley Owens and he
goes to some of Scott's research areas I believe, or
in the area over in East Tennessee. And let me
tell you, that was some of the most intense cryptid
activity that we've had. I mean some of the guys.
Actually the second night when I was not there, they

(26:48):
had massive cryptid activity out there. But it's a dog
man and bigfoot out there in this area where Scott
and Scott Garbenter. From what I understand, had some pretty
good evidence of both what he did.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
And he's got one video in particular. He was famous
for putting a camera behind him, you know, facing behind him,
and as he's walking away, you can see this portal
that opens up, and there's this little thing at the
bottom of it, you know, just kind of staring out
of the portal or whatever, you know, And we went
exactly there and we had some really interesting results while

(27:25):
we were there.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Oh wow. You know, I want to give a shout
out to my buddy David Moser as well. He's he's
always done the camera on the back for years as well,
and it does get some great results, Okay, amazing results.
So because they don't think you're looking at him when
you're walking, I mean, that's what they like to sneak
out and you know, peet their head out from around
behind a tree and stuff. So yeah, yeah, we should

(27:49):
I need to start doing that.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I guess yeah. You know, one of the things I've
learned doing this the many years I've been doing it
is that you see maybe one percent of what's around you,
particularly when it comes to cryptids, because you know, now
I get whenever every time I go out, I'll just
carry a camera and that camera is just you know,

(28:12):
panning all over the place and I might see something
or am I not? But I bit you that camera
picks it up a lot of times. A lot of times,
but the camera picks it up.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. If you you you have a
lot of nice, expensive equipment, I'm assuming, And have you
ever had any of your equipment get fried or anything
weird happened to your equipment?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Figure? Absolutely, I was going to ask.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I had to ask.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah. I don't think anybody who's been has done this
hasn't had that happened to him. I'll tell you one
of the weird things that happened here to make any
of this of the vanished, I went to North Georgia
and I was out with Squatch Fishing Outfitters and we
saw a bigfoot, a big foot cross the road in
front of us while we were going on location, right,

(29:04):
and we're like, oh, freaking you know, that's great. But
you know, we filmed a lot of that, a lot
of that interaction. And when I when I got home,
I put I had it on SD card, and I
transferred it over to the computer, and but I never
erased it off my SD card. So I went on

(29:25):
a vacation and come back. When I came back, all
of the video that had audio, that had the great
audio on it was gone from the computer. And then
I put in the SD card, same thing gone from it.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay, that happened to me, Greg the first time I
ever went bigfooting, and I had missing time, and we
had some weird stuff, some ety stuff that was happening
while we were out there trying to get bigfoot to
step on top of us. One night, okay, we were
hiding out in the woods and I had my recorder
on my knee. We were seeing or urbs orbs big
ones flying over us in a low flying UFO. This

(30:03):
is in North Georgia, by the way, North Georgia. And
I was scared to listen to this tape because we
knew that something had happened to us, but we didn't
know what. And my my equipment had gone forward an hour,
and my partners had gone backwards backwards an hour, and
we were like, okay, something's off. About a week later,
the head of that team came over to my apartment

(30:25):
to listen to that tape with me, to listen to
the recorder tape. That's how old it was. Tapes, okay,
And so he came over to listen to it with me,
and we listened to this thing. It was hours, a
couple hours of recording or more hours. And so we
sat there and listened, and at some point when we
saw these orbs, you could hear bottle rockets shooting off

(30:45):
all around. It sounded like bottle rockets, and he and
I had not heard that with our own ears. Greg
And guess what. After we got done listening to this
whole tape, you could hear like there was something there
with us that we didn't hear. And then when we
got done listening to it, it deleted by itself. Wow,
completely deleted in it. The head of my team had
not been there with me to hear it, I would
have no one would have ever believed me.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Probably, Wow, that happened to me. And what was so
weird is right after that happened I started. I got
a call from Trey and he had asked me if
anything like that had happened, because somebody with Tony Merkle's

(31:30):
team that film at the Meta happened to him too,
same thing happened to him.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, it happens. There's something, there's certain things that they
just don't want to get out to the to the
general public. I guess, I don't know. It's like these
experiences are just for us and us alone, and they
don't want everybody to see what we see or hear
what we hear. Greg. Yes, I don't know, you know, And.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I really wish I could have got that portal on film.
I mean, that was that would have been the gold,
that would have been gold. But you know I would
I would think even if I got it on film,
it probably something would have happened. You know. Weird stuff
like that happens. I mean, we we've we've had footage
where we thought we captured the Bigfoot, you know, walking

(32:17):
away or whatever, and yeah, you camera fries or you.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Know it's not there.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, that happens. All.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I don't know what our good friend Jamie Kelly
is in the chat. What's up, Jamie, she said that
she was waiting. I think she's been waiting for you
for your jokes tonight. I'm pretty sure. I think she
said that earlier tonight.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
So, hey, yeah, I'm normally a joker when I come
on some of these shows.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, just around the campfire usually.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Actually, yeah, well, you know, I come on some of
these shows, and you know, I have to be so
serious at work all the time, and then I'm like
by the time I'm get home, I'm like, I'm about
to blow up, you know, my gosh. Yeah, so you
know when I when I get out, you know, I
try not to take myself too seriously, except when I'm filming.

(33:09):
I do take my film seriously.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, I know you do. Well, listen. I like to
have fun over here on my channel. Obviously, we always
have a good time over here. And I want to
say hello to William Knighthaw. What's up, William, Thank you
for being here. William had just done a show earlier
today on missing People out of Alaska, and I happened
to catch a little bit of it this afternoon, and
talking about the underground cave systems and tunnels and deep

(33:33):
underground military bases and all that, and I'm sure we'll
talk about that a little bit tonight. He said, it's
a shame that people don't realize the connection of missing
people to cave systems and the underground waterways to lava tubes. Yeah,
that's true, William, Thank you so much for reminding me
of very true.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
And in the in the area of Townson, Tennessee, there
are ten thousand known caves, known caves. Can we get
that little area around Townsend?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Oh my gosh. Well, I do have a map here
of the cave systems in the United States. So the
map on the bottom of the pink one is the
one that has the caves, the cave systems. And let
me tell you that it's all of the Apple Appalatchian
Mountains right there and uh and right where the Great
Smoky Mountains are down there in the biggest chunk of
blue right there right there. So lots of caves. I've

(34:26):
explored caves in Tennessee myself, and we did a skin
walker investigation up in North Tennessee and that was dumb,
but it was fun. Greg. It was one of the
it was one of the more I don't want to
say reckless, It wasn't reckless but it was like, man,
what what were we doing? Literal cave, Skinwalker Cave. Yeah,

(34:48):
we did it. It was fun. I can check it
off the list now I did it.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I'm not going out of cap Here's why. Okay, if
you're flooring in a cave looking for a crypto, what
happens when you come across one? Uh?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Well, it's gonna suck if you have to shoot at
something because it's just going to collapse a cave around you. Probably, Yeah,
you're just gonna have to. And if you try to run,
your feet are stuck in the mud because the MUD's
so thick. Yeah, where we were.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
You know, or you know, And I bet you that
cryptid can traverse that cave like nobody's business.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
They can. They can scale the walls.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, exact. Well that's what I'm saying, you know. And
I hadn't scaled the wall lately. And I don't know
about you, but I hadn't. You know, this gravataz, you know,
just is not want to get up on the wall.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
So maybe maybe that's me. You're a superpower. I don't no,
you know. I went into the cave. It was actually
really nice because it was so hot out there is
in the middle of the summer, and the cave was
like thirty degrees cooler than it was outside at least,
and it was nice. But I did not like going
past the very beginning of that cave because it was
really creepy and we were catching a lot of paranormal

(35:56):
activity in that cave. And the guys went so far
back in it. I believe they came across a pell
crawler towards the very back when the rope ran out.
They couldn't go further because their ropes ran out, and
and something. Pete, one of my buddies, whistled in the cave. Greg,
don't hustle in a cave. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, that's like a pork chop around your neck.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah. Well they we basically are all are just big
foot burritos and pork chops for pell crawlers skinwalkers.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yes, yes, yeah, it's good. I don't taste good, so
I'm a clowns. Almost taste funny, Oh.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
My gosh, I like to think I taste funny too.
Hopefully they'll leave me alone. William says, I still think
your skinwalker case was a trickster shape shifter. You call
them mimes. Yes, you know something else. But I know
we're here to talk about missing people, of course, and
they do pertain to the caves. But speaking of mimics, Greg,
I don't know if I've ever I don't know if

(36:53):
I've told you this. Maybe I have. But one of
the more profound things that happened to me out at
the meadow was I was biking in with Tim, one
of the gentlemen who has passed away now. But Tim
and I were walking hiking in the meadow with his daughter.
She was there, she's a teenager. And as we were
walking down the trail to get out to the meadow,

(37:14):
I heard a woman's voice scream out time travel. And
I was like, what is that and uh and they
were like, well, they didn't hear it. I was like, well,
I heard a woman say time travel. And it was
weeks later I realized that was my voice. It was
so shocking, Greg, I could not understand that. I kept
saying it and over and over in my head. I

(37:35):
kept hearing it, and now I finally realized that was me.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, you know, I've had the same thing happen when
we were in uh, we were in whitesbur Over at
Macintosh reserve.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Oh yeah, in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
In Georgia, right.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I go there pretty often.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Mm hm. And we were I don't even think we
were filming. I think we were just big footing, just
a bigfoot And I was over at one of the
bath houses and Janice had just gotten there. She's unloading
her things, and she heard in my voice, hey Janice,
and she said it came out from up under her truck.

(38:14):
And she thought it right, you play played games all
the time, right, she started with playing games with her.
But I was at the bath house. Then she said,
you know, uh, something grabbed her ankle. Then she was
she was mad at me because she thought I was
doing that. Yeah, she thought I was doing that. So

(38:35):
when I came back from the bath house, you know,
she was kind of perturbed with me and like, why
are you playing tricks on me? And I'm like whatever.
I was at the bath house, and you know, honestly,
I didn't pay pay her any mine until later on
that night. You know, I was going to get up
and use the bathroom and zipped the tent and I
heard hey Janie in my voice and I said out loud, nope,

(38:57):
zipping the tent back up and uh my camera guy.
Uh an editor or a former editor. Uh yeah, he
he just happened to be up and he says, I
heard that. Oh yeah, that's horrible.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's really scary. It's really cool too, that's weird.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, so that's happened. It happened again in North Georgia
where I had this. My mentor was there and we
were there on expedition with us a bunch of people,
and his name was Paul Holsey and I was off
with a group.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, yes, I met him at the Alabama Bigfoot conference
where I think I met you there. Actually the first
time that you was when he was there a long
time ago, two years ago.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, and Paul heard in my voice, hey Paul, And
it came from behind behind the outhouse out in the
primitive area, and whatever it was was trying to lure
him behind that outouse. And again he thought it was
me and I was way off somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Can you imagine what was going through his head? He's
like why why.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Would he had a million things through his head like
your weirdog, dang Greg?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
That is where.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Oh my gosh, okay, but okay, let's get back to
Janis though. That's really, because I know Janice Janis has
been out in the meadow with us when I was there,
and uh, and she has a sweet lady man. And
to have something one of my worst fears as a
kid was something grabbing my ankles from under my bed
or you know, I grew up in a log cabin
and our staircase going upstairs had spaces in between it,

(40:50):
and when I was a kid, I would hide underneath
it and grab my ankles and the feet of my
brother and my sister just scared them at night. And uh,
and I was always scared somebody would do that to me,
or a monster would do that. But imagine having that
happened out in the in the woods like that at Macintosh.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, there's some weird, really weird things happened that Macintosh.
You know that the crawler that we got on film,
I'm pretty sure it was Bigfoot. I was talking with
some other people who uh kind of turned his own
to that place, and he said that there was a
juvenile that gets caught pretty often. I don't know, maybe

(41:28):
he's you know, kind of mentally challenged or something juvenile Bigfoot,
because he gets caught all the time, you know, trying
to crawl up on somebody and be like and then
there he is and he crawls away or where he
just you know, vanishes, you know, clothes or whatever you
want to call it.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
I need to go.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
But what happened was I think he maybe he was
like phased or something right up underneath the the truck
and it was him mimicking and maybe he grabbed her.
He actually did grab her ankle. Eh.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Well, you know what. The backstory behind Macintosh reserved by
the way for the audience, because I'm sure a lot
of people have no idea who Chief Macintosh was, and
I don't know the full story behind it, but he
was mass There was a massacre that happened on that
land of Chief Macintosh and all his sons, his entire
family was yes, taken out right there.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah. He uh, he was the chief and he sold
all the land to the government, all the Greeks. Yeah
that's what.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, that's what he was looked at us kind of
like he betrayed his tribe.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, you know he was he was uh, he was
half breed, he was half Indian half uh. Yeah, and
you know, I guess he didn't really have any loyalty

(42:54):
toward any one of them. He just had loyalty toward
toward himself.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Money, money, money, Like.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I said, he sold the land, you know, out from
up under all the creek there, and they got pretty
pissed about it. I would.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I'd be mad too, Okay too, sold one house exactly. Well.
The trailer tears are gone right through there too, because
that's not too far from you know. My grandparents' house
was right down the road from there, and the trailers
went right through their property.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I saw my first ghost there. I didn't believe in
ghost and tow a saw one there. I saw an
Indian on a horse materialized right in front of me
and Janets and it rolled across the field there, got
to the tree line and disappeared.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Wow. Was it solid, like a solid person?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Solid? Very solid. We used Brenton as a guinea pig
and said, hey, Brent, go over there, you know, because
he didn't see it. He didn't know what was talking about, right,
So he went over there to where we saw it,
and the h how they looked was identical, the opacity
of them where it was identical. Really, so it was solid.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Man. I need to go out there sometime. I'm not
going by myself, though not with something creeping up on
grabbing angles. I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Fell well, no, you know, I had a weird experience
there one time when I first started out. When the
first time I was there, you know, you could hear
these things walking around and you would think you could
be able to see them, right, you know, but it
gets to a position where you think you can see

(44:23):
it and you can't see it. So I was like
looking at some orbs and something came up, like right
up in my ear and went, oh, made a sound
identical to that.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Oh no, oh my gosh. So they get they'd like
to get up close and personal, is what you're saying
out there, and then we'll touch you in call people
behind the bathhouse. And that's weird, that's really wild. H
Son sovereign cosmic Wow man, thank you for being here
a sovereign, he says, great. Shared a story on another channel.
This is exactly the story that happened in a Steadi ranch.

(44:57):
So this is not just happening at like location that
a lot of people are reporting these things just like
me up in north actually at the meadow undisclosed location,
I had my voice. It was a mimic of my
voice saying time travel or maybe Greg, I like to
think I'm a time traveler and I just happened to
time travel over there.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
That were too good to be because you had missing time.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
I've had missing time plenty of times. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, we've had a missing time, you know. And we
experienced a lot of this during the making of our
first film, and it was so out there, you know,
because I had not experienced any of this before, and
I hadn't talk to anybody, nobody had ever heard of me.
Because I purposely did not want to cloudy my judgment
on h on the results of my film, right, So

(45:47):
we purposefully didn't put some of this weird stuff in
the film because we thought it was just so weird,
so out there, nobody would believe it until I started
talking with up, finally talking with other people, and I
was like, wow, you know other people are experiencing this.
What is this we experience? And that was actually my
motivation for making The Land between the Lakes. And you know,

(46:10):
the first person I had up was Trey and the
Metal Project, and I read that book and I was like, wow,
we've experienced that. So I wanted to learn a little
bit more about that. That was the whole reasoning behind
making Mysic a film.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Oh wow. Well, I mean, if there's anything that's ever happened,
we do call it the Skinwalker Ranch of the South.
It's happened at the meadow or somewhere else. I mean,
it is. It is outrageous the amount of strange activity
we've had out there. And it's not just cryptids, it's
not just ets and missing time. I mean, it's mimics
like I was saying, and it's portals and all that.

(46:45):
I mean, just a lot of paranormal phenomenon. Okay. And
so this is an interesting comment right here because I'm
reading some of the comments in the chat, and I
thank you guys so much for leaving comments and participating
in our live chat tonight. I love you guys as
mean houses me neither. But I had a great uncle
who went out and unlive to Bobcat for calling his

(47:05):
name late one evening. A Bobcat called his great uncle's
name out in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
What is that? Eight bobcats here in Alabama?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I would have I would have a Bobcat headdress the
next day or something.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
I was just saying like, I.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Don't know, like those not deer, we call them deer.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Oh my god, they eight deers, the eight deers. Oh man,
that's really that's really weird though, like uh, animals having
human characteristics like that. But of course we got like
dog men that are like dog men.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
But you know, it's so weird. I don't know what
to think about dog man. But the more I learn
about them, I think they've been around for a very
very long time. And I think that's what our ancestors
wrote about when they said wear wolves or whatever. H
you know, granted, they could be two different things. However,

(48:10):
the end result of them it turns out to be
the same. There there's half wolf, half man looking thing.
So I'm not, to my knowledge, I'm not yet to
experience a dog man, but it's coming.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Maybe you will, you want. It's always when you least expected.
I think i've I've run into a couple of them
leaving out of a wildlife management area in the Talladega
National Force in Alabama. About this was July maybe of
this year, and I was like, why are there African
dogs on the side of the road. And I was like,
there's African dogs out here in Alabama. What the heck?

(48:46):
And I was like, wait, that's a bear. I was like, wait, no,
it's a panther. Like what the hell am I looking at?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
It was?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
It was really odd, a lot of strange things, almost
I don't want to say cartoonish, but it was just
something like I could not figure out what I was
looking at. And that's a weird feeling.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
It is because you get perplexed when you are truly perplexed.
It's a weird feeling. It is, it really is. It's
like when I was looking at that portal, I was perplexed,
I promise you know, because I was looking into somewhere
that you know, nobody had ever seen before.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Well what do you think? Well,
you know, I guess I would love to ask you
some questions about some of the things that you featured
in your films and some of the cases you featured
in your film with the Vanished, and I know I've
actually sat down with you. I talked about the Dennis
Martin case out of the Great Smoking Mountains. But there's
another case. Speaking about perplexed, there's a gentleman that you

(49:46):
had featured in your film who went missing. And you know,
we've talked about on my channel all the missing for
one one cases the clusters of missing people. There's a
big old cluster right there in the Great Smoking Mountain
of missing people. And I think that this gentleman you're
featuring on your film would qualify as one of those

(50:07):
missing people and probably one of those clusters.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Right he is. His name is Mike Huron, or his
name was Mike Huron. He was in his fifties. He
had no known enemies. He was just an average guy,
you know, just living his life. He went out riding
on his four wheeler one day. He had seen a
couple of people and he waved at him and went

(50:30):
down the trail where he was at and yeah, there
he is, and then just mysteriously vanished, just without a trace.
You know, he wasn't robbed, because his his wallet and
all that was still left in his truck. There's just

(50:53):
no information about what happened to Mike. Yeah, he's there
in the Happy Valley area of the Great Smoky Mountains. Now,
we did an investigation there and at the Happy Valley area.
Uh Adam Adam Davis had a theory about what could

(51:16):
have happened to Mike, and we went out to test
the validity of that theory, and I say that it's
got some legs to it. Uh. And you know, while
we were there, just weird stuff happened. Weird stuff happened,

(51:36):
and you know, personally, I wouldn't want to live there.
It's too many weird things happened. But you know they
were he had been there where his family had been
there for generations. You know, they all knew each other.
It was sort of like one big family. They there
wasn't that you know, gen Zen doesn't really grow there,

(52:01):
so it couldn't be these Gensen farmers or these Gensen people.
Go out and we're still in magency, gonna get you.
But you know, even if there was, that would have
been a body or something that would have at least
turned up. You know, if it was an animal, you know,
there would have been you know, something would have been
left behind if an animal would have got him. There's

(52:21):
just nothing out there that shows what happened to him.
There's no information on it, and it's a true mystery.
But we go out and we investigate this and we
see that there's there's some weird things that happens in
that area right there.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Well, I can I can imagine a lot of weird,
weird stuff goes down in the Appalachians, and I listen,
I focused. I feel like my show is kind of focused.
I really do highlight the Appalachian Mountains and the Great
Smoky Mountains, the North Georgia Mountains all through the southeast,
and and we have not only all these missing persons,

(53:02):
but we have I mean, I've been shown when I
was up in Cherokee, North Carolina, in that area, I
was shown where the entrance to late deep underground military
bases are up there. And well allege alleged, okay, entertainment
purposes only, but I was I was shown some very
interesting things. Not only was I taken around to even

(53:26):
the places around Cherokee where all the big Foot sightings
had been, and there were a lot of big foot
sightings up there, but I was taken up to Judicola
Rock where they had Suklu the Legend of the Giant. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
I've always wanted to go to Judicola Rock. But tell
you one of those strangest things. While we were in
Happy Valley, we kept hearing these metal sounds in the woods. Yeah,
and you know, they're strange and uh, I just happened
to be on that segment, and you know, they are caught.

(54:03):
We did catch them on audio. But they're so weird,
you know, because we were way out when there was
no there, with no cars. We're miles deep in the
into the forest, right, you know, we were saying orbs.
You know, it's just these metal sounds. They they were

(54:27):
a distant at first, and then they started getting closer
and closer to us. So, you know, I kind of wonder,
what does portal sound like when it either opens or closes.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Well, that's a good question, because the ones that we've
experienced made no noise, and I've I've experienced at least
one in my base camp that made no noise, but
there was commotion because something was coming out of it.
So there was a commotion that was heard by the
head of my team who got up and started running
quickly towards it to find out what noise was. And

(55:02):
but we don't we don't hear about that very often,
but we do hear about metal banging in the woods
the land between the lakes. Actually, Greg, you've been up
there several times and then a whole documentary you know,
featuring the land between the lakes, metal banging. It sounds
like doors closing, or it sounds like a garbage can

(55:23):
is being dumped, like dropped from the air down to
the ground. In my opinion, can I tell you what
I think it is? And and this is from remote
viewing some incidences that happen up there in the land
between the lakes. I think there's some kind of facility
underground there and I think they may be opening and
closing doors or something from that. But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
It could be you don't I don't know. All I
know is when when we're at the land between the lakes,
we heard the metal sounds, uh, and these were similar,
but you know the ones we heard their Happy Valley
were get you know, they started off a little bit
distant and then started getting closer and in closer and
in closer, and we knew that there was a storm coming.

(56:07):
But I mean right as it got really really close
to us, this storm just hit and we was like, hey,
we got to get out of here because it was
a major storm. Major storm come in. And I'm glad
we got out because there were trees falling down just
all over the place. We catch all that, you know,

(56:29):
and there's trees on the across the road in front
of us. You know, it took us forever to get
back to the hotel that night. And you know, speaking
of fur faral people, you know, we turned into faral people.
Won't get back to the hotel because in Townsend they
don't have like a normal you know, sewer system and

(56:52):
and water system. They're all on wells over there.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Well, that's actually a good thing, right.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Well, you know it is, until you're out of water
for three days.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
That sucks. That's true. I grew up on well water too, actually,
so or on it rains, the water would always turn brown.
Water would turn brown for it rain too much.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, I take a.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Brown bath when I was a kid a lot of times,
dirt my hair.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Yeah, you know, there's nothing wrong with whale water. But
we were in a in a motel and we didn't
have any water for three days.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Oh dang, Well you should have just gone camping then
would have been the same day.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Well, you know, I would have. But usually when I
go filming, it's a whole lot of gear that I
that I bring with me. It's a lot of gear.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Yeah, it's expensive gear. Too filming.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, yeah, but uh, you know we turned into feral
people after three days without water.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yeah, because you.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Couldn't flush the bathroom at all.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Oh man, when to go to the store and you
buy a bunch of gallon jugs of water and then
you yeah, I don't know. We're all up as a kid.
And you know, if we ever heard something happened with
the well water too. I listen, I know how to
mcgiver stuff at this point in my life. Okay, I'm
like a little I'm a little mcgiver Jr.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, you know, we were trying to catch water, you know,
coming out of gutters and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
You know, but y'all never figured out what the metal
sounds were out there.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
You never figured out because the weather changed so drastically
after that front came through. I thought we would have
gotten away from the snow and all that, but we didn't.
When that front came through, it actually snowed that that night,
and uh, you know it was it was very cold

(58:47):
the next day and I don't operate well and they're
really really cold, I feel.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
You Listen, We're our teams are usually out in the
all types of weather, all types of snow rain usually
raining to the raining or it's one hundred and twenty
five degrees outside.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Operating that either we too much, I'm a big boy.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah, Oh my gosh. We have a question in the
chat real quick though. We in regard to Michael Herron
Corey would like to know did they find his atv?
And I think the answer is yes, Yes.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
They did find his ATV and it was parked in
a place that was unusual. Uh so, uh, that was
one of the strange things about it. And uh you
know that you would think if he was robbed, somebody
would have gotten his atv, you know, so, you know,
it was just so weird, so weird what happened to him,

(59:42):
you know. Yeah, and we come up with a with
a few theories about what could have happened. You know
it perhaps it was you know, people that was unfamiliar
with the area and accidentally killed him and took his
body off somewhere and just hit it, or you know,

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or you know, maybe he was chasing a cryptid that
didn't like him chasing it and took him. You know,
that's a possibility to you know, there's maybe you know,
he didn't fly off a ditch or anything, because his
at D was parked. It was parked. It wasn't just

(01:00:23):
you didn't just got off. It was parked. So don't
know what happened to it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Well, they also so I was watching this evening. I
did a couple I watched a couple of videos on it,
and uh, and I was his son was saying that
he had left his wallet, his his keys, like all
the stuff that he had like that he would need,
like credit cards, driver's license, all that stuff was left
on his counter and he just took the he took

(01:00:48):
the four wheeler out or whatever kind of ATV he
was on. He just took it out to go joy
writing basically and was never seen again. Vanished And actually
it was It's interesting because when the new those reporters
were reporting on this five years or eight years later
after this had happened, she said he just vanished. And
I thought it was interesting because the name of your
documentary is vanished, and that happens all too often when

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people up in the Smoky Mountains.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
You know, there's been there was lots of other people
that had gone missing in the in the National Forest.
And I do want to say this where I don't
want to give more importance on the ones that that
we put our documentary on, because everybody that's gone missing

(01:01:38):
is as important as everybody else. It's just you have
to that's something you know, you have to choose somebody
to do your story on if you want to do
it well. And these are just the two people that
we chose. And it's nothing against the other peoples who

(01:02:01):
have gone missing in that area.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Well, if you take, for instance, the David Politis missing
for one one books he if you read his all
the different chapters, it's like a different person who's gone
missing out of the National Parks. And once you start
reading it and reading you get it through the book,
it's like, wow, it actually sounds kind of like a
different person. Same scenario for a lot of these stories.

(01:02:24):
I mean, there are signs, there are things that are
similar in a lot of these cases. Like you know,
I'm always telling people, I'm like, look, if you got
kids out there with you, make sure that child is
right beside you, your holding onto their hand or you know,
not letting them walk too far ahead and not letting
them hang back behind everybody. That's one of the things
you got to put the kids in the middle. Okay,

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don't go pick berries.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Okay, that's what happened, right, That's what happened to Dennis Martin.
You know, back in nineteen sixty nine. They were just
off on a camping trip and there was some people
who you know, told his dad he's gonna go scare
some of his friends or whatever behind a tree and
then they never saw him again. Yeah, never saw me again.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Actually, Okay, so I know this is not the Smoky Mountains,
but I was tasked with a blind target and it
turned out to be out in Mount Shasta. I think,
is that in Washington or California? Thing is in Washington?
I don't know, Uh, Mount Shasta, it's Washington, yes, and listen,
you can tell I'm from Georgia. I don't know anything

(01:03:31):
past the Mississippi. Okay, so nothing, I don't know. It's
all California. And I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, y'all.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But uh, but there was a
case and I can't remember what year was this. Let's
sae me pull it up on my other computer here.
I can't remember the year that this happened. Uh, but
there was a oh, in twenty eleven, so it wasn't

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that long ago. Twenty eleven, there was a case. It
was at Fowler's campground in northern California, actually Mount Shasta.
A three and a half year old boy. Year old
boy went missing and he was at a campground with
his family. He just the parents turned around, in a
blink of an eye, he was gone, and they, you know,

(01:04:13):
searched for him for a while. There was no trace
of this child anywhere. Three and a half years old
is tiny, Okay, that's tiny, and I can imagine the
terror of those family, that family went through, But this
child was you know, hours later he was found by
a search crew who had searched the same area over
and over again by this campground. But what the child

(01:04:37):
said later on weeks later, no one question where he went.
They were just happy that they found him. But when
they found him, after they found him and he went home,
he was being baby sat, I guess said, babysat, babysitated
by his grandma. And this case, by the way, has
become known as the Robot Grandma Okay, because what he

(01:05:00):
said was, well, you know, I didn't like my other grandma, Cappy.
She was like well, what are you talking about? He said, Well,
when I he said, well what, she asked what happened
to him? I don't like that other grandma canby? She
was mean she was a robot? He said, she was
a robot and she was like, what are you talking about?
He said that that he disappeared because this woman who

(01:05:23):
looked like looked just like his grandmother had come out
of the woods and took his hand and guided him
into a cave, and he thought it was his grandma.
He said, it wasn't until he got inside the cave
and saw something glisten on her face that he realized
that she was not human and that she was a robot.
And then was grandma? So what do you mean by
a robot? He said. She was like you could use

(01:05:44):
a remote control or control her, is what he said.
But she looked just like his grandma, but it wasn't
his grandma. And he said that when he went he'd
explained that when he went inside this cave with her,
there were mannequins and belongings to people, wallets, shoes, clothing
and things, the personal items that were covered in cobwebs.

(01:06:05):
And this woman took him in there and was trying
to do, like take samples from him and stuff and said, hey,
don't be scared. We actually put you in your mommy's belly. Now,
this is a three and a half year old child, Greg.
I don't think mary and half year old can make
this up on his own. And she was trying to.
She was taking like stool samples and stuff from him,

(01:06:25):
and she was like, you know, we're just here to
check up on you, and I'm going to take you
back to your parents. Just relax, you know. And when
she got done taking the samples, she said that they
had actually put him in her mommy's belly, is what
she told them. And when when she was done, she
went and put him in a bush, she was like, look,
I'm gonna leave you here and you're gonna be okay.

(01:06:47):
They're gonna find you. And I've remote viewed. It's on
my patroony. I got on my playlist. We did a
whole show on it and it is fantastic and fascinating. U.
But he the gramma, I tell you what happened with
the grandma. When the grandma heard this, all these thoughts
started brushing in her head and she thought, well, almost

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one year exactly prior to him going missing, she and
her friends were camping at that same great campground called
Fowler Campground, and she said that she remembers waking up
one morning face down outside of her tent with a
puncture wound on the back of her neck and blood
streaming out of her neck, and she didn't know how
she got there. And her friends that she was camping with,

(01:07:31):
the husband or her friend woke up with blood on
his neck out of his bed with a puncture woe
on his neck too, and they never could not figure
out what had happened to them. But I don't know,
it sounds like maybe there were some kind of weird
et cloning or something on what.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
It sounds like to me, some kind of et cloning
or I don't know, I don't know what kind of
business is going on there. But it doesn't sound kosher, it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Doesn't, it does. It's a It's a fascinating story, though,
Robot Grandma at Mount Shasta. Yeah, you know, we got
to kind of take all these cases right. So, like
I was saying with the David plaitistub, it's like there's
so many missing people and we can't focus on all
of them. But you know, he's done a good job

(01:08:18):
of like kind of cataloging a lot of the cases
and they're so similar. Okay, they're all different, but they're
just so similar. And it's where we start seeing the
patterns where maybe we can start making more sense of
all this. Greg, we got to look for the patterns
and connect the dots.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Yeah. Now, when we went out and investigated my key Wron,
like I said, I went out and checked the veracity
of some of atoms claims of what could have happened.
And you know, I saw a bigfoot, not you know,
twenty miles twenty to fifty miles or so as the

(01:08:56):
crow flies from that area, and you know that's not
far for a big foot to travel. But yeah, I
mean we you know this is there's more than just one, right.
And I also spoke to I also spoke to a
National Park ranger and he wouldn't tell me this on camera,

(01:09:16):
but you know I got to know it. He showed
me on a map where I could go find Pharaoh people.
He said, if you want to go find them here,
they are you of their existences. He said, you know
they're there. He said, be careful because they'll kill you. No,
you know, they'll probably eat you, but are they'll unlive you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Sorry, it's okay. Did you tell them you smell you
smell weird so they won't eat your You taste weird?
And what did you say? You taste weird?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Taste money.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Don't worry about me. I taste weird.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Yeah, but it was so remote. I wasn't going to
go there, but you know, not, you know, luging a
whole bunch of Cameron year. But he said he had
been there, and yeah, they're there, and there's more than
you think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Huh. Well, you know what's shocking to me is like
hearing about you know, in some of these national forests
there are off grid living situations, let's just say, like
religious cults and stuff, and it's more. That's more common
than we might think.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
As well, it is, and we touch on that in
the film. You know, there was a witness that contacted
at them and she was up on the parkway there
and she was just there, you know, enjoying the view,
and here come these these twelve rogued, hooded figures just

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coming out of the woods and they were all chanting,
you know, you know, and we're like, you know, she
was terrified, right, you know, because they well I don't
know exactly what all happened after that, because it gets
kind of fuzzy from you know, what she said. But

(01:11:10):
you know you're talking about the colts. I don't know
what kind of cult that is. That they're still wearing
these hoods and you know they're still going out chanting,
and you know, there's all sorts of oddities that can
happen there in the Smoky mountains. And it's not just
crypt it's I mean it's not you know, there's bears.

(01:11:30):
You know, a bear can get you, right, you can
fall into a cave. You can just be walking along
and who you know, you can just fall into one.
Nobody will ever find you. You know, the portals exist.
You can walk into a portal where you're gonna go.
You might go somewhere else or whatever. I don't know

(01:11:51):
what appens to you when you walk into portal. I
don't want to find out either.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
You know, I'm not going in a portal. I did not.
I will never lunteer to go on the portal. You
know that we had to do it, come up with
a protocol right after that portal incident, and it involved
trying to rope around some of the guy's waists. Not mine.
I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
You know. In June, we're going to go out into
Oregon for where Adam saw his portal. My my goal
fla drone through one. Oh yes, it myself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
But you know that would be interesting. You know what?
That just made me think of Male's hole? Are you
familiar with Male's hole?

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Okay, that's that. That was one of my remote viewing
targets too, And that was wild I had There were
two of us that had been given that as a target,
and I was like coming up with like wormholes and
a lot of radiation. Okay, and a lot of this,
A lot of this phenomena has a lot of radiation.
I would assume that's gonna it might mess up your
equipment a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Yeah, you know, I've kind of theorized that that's what
happens to some of our equipment sometimes, is is it?
You know, some of it just gets fried, you know,
with with the radiation or or an e impulse or
something comes through. Because you could go into some areas
and your equipment was working fine and walk a hundred

(01:13:09):
feet and your equipment just dies. You walk back out,
it's working fine, walk back in it dies, you know,
because there's something there that's making your equipment not work,
you know. And we've experienced that a lot, a lot lotty.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
You're probably just going in and out of different dimensions
and timelines. And I saw this post online. I posted
it on my social media today or yesterday, and it
was like, no one can prove that when we this
is wild. When we go to sleep, no one is
able to prove if we wake up in another world
or the same world that we went to sleep in.

(01:13:45):
Isn't that weird?

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
That is weird. Yeah, when you go to sleep. But
I mean, are you actually able to access other realms?
Is that what your dreams are? You know, you're actually
in a different reality. I know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
I had a really interesting guest on on Monday, doctor Ram,
doctor Richard Alan Miller. He's a cool dude. He said, Uh,
what is death? He's like, what happens when you die?
I was like, what you wake up? That's what he said.
It death is when we wake up. This is all
he said. This is all a dream. He's like, we
just live in a big dream. And I think we're
might I don't know. My I live a crazy life,

(01:14:23):
and my dreams are crazy too, so I can't tell
the different to my dreams in my waking life sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
So yeah, Well, back in January, my mom passed away.
But right right before she passed away, I mean this,
right before, I was at her feet just looking and
she had just just had a really massive seizure and

(01:14:54):
she had she had actually died for a minute, and
then she heart started and she started just I think
it was just automatic breathe, just you know, just a
body mechanically working at that point. But right after that,
I sat at her feet and just watching her because

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you know, you know, it wasn't long and I saw this.
It looked like a like a jellyfish sort of, and
it came out of her. It was white and it
shot up about a foot and dissipated or disappeared, but
it looked like an energy jellyfish sort of and and

(01:15:41):
you know, came out and uh that that moment it
made me sad and happy all at the same time,
because I kind of took that as Okay, she's not
hurting anymore, she's not in pain anymore, and she's still alive.
And I just saw her.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Leave Oh my gosh. Yeah, we just move on and
uh into the next realm. And I'm so sorry for
your lost Greg, that's heartbreaking happened.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
She was she lived a long life.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Yeah, oh my gosh. That's interesting with the jellyfish. It's
like it was like her, her energy, her soul. Yeah,
you watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I watched that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Yeah, that's actually beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Well that's why you know, it was uh it it
was such sweet sorrow, you know, uh, you know, but
it was it was energy, and it was it was
quick and if if you had have you know, looked
away for an instant, you would have missed it. It

(01:16:50):
was real quick, and and it only went up maybe
a foot and a half or so maybe before it
dissipated and it disappeared. But when it first came out,
it was you could see the opacity was was was
pretty solid. And then you know, as it went up
and completely vanished about that far away. So wow. Yeah,

(01:17:16):
I don't know how explain it other than it was
their spirit or soul, whatever you want to call it. It
was very energy. She was she moved on, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Yeah, Well we are more than this physical body. I
say that all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Oh yes, we are.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Definitely, we are much more.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
You know, most definitely. It could. I've seen a lot
of things over the years, a lot of weird things,
and I know that, you know, we were never told
the whole the whole story.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
And I don't know if we have enough time left
as far as humanity to wake up again, you know,
because we have to overcome a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Of uh ah, a lot of a lot of things
that aren't true.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Oh yeah, we have to unlearn everything we've been taught,
because nothing ain't nothing the truth, that's right. Yeah, we've
been lying to about everything.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Man, we have. But speaking of vanished, where's that trail?

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Let's watch that trailer real quick and then we'll talk
a little bit about the Dennis Martin case a little bit.
And I'm so I'm so excited. Now you did have
another person remote view of the Dennis Martin case as well.
I didn't know that until right before the show started,
and I'm excited about that. Okay, we'll talk about that
when after we watch the trailer. Okay, so let me
pull the trailer up. You guys, this is a Relic

(01:18:41):
Film exclusive, and Greg, do you want to set it
up or should we just play it, just God, just
play it. Okay, Okay, it might take me just a second.
I'm slow. Okay, the vanished trailer. Here we go. Hope
a bacon hear this? Hold on, I gotta share it,
all right, all right, give me just a second. Let

(01:19:08):
me pull it up, and here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
It was in August two thousand and eight. One of
the greatest mysteries on disappearing people happened in this very spot.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I picked up on a person because I was getting
the missing person data and I were a missing person.
So I do what we do in remote remote viewing
it is called deep micro.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
And kill these things. What things? Do you think his
body is still in that area?

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
I think I'm gonna need to get a team together.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Coming January thirty first, mm hmmm, right great. I gotta
say that looks really good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Thank you. It is really good. And I can say
it's a it's different from my other films. You know,
it's it's a bit darker. It's at once, it's a
lot darker. There's not a lot of happy moments in it.
I'm going to tell you that there's not because I
you know, I tried not to make the light of

(01:21:45):
the situation, you know, and I wanted the film to
reflect the situation, and it really does. It's really it's
really unnerving. That's the best way to put it. It's
a nerving.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Well, okay, I have to ask. I know you don't
want to give the show away. Okay, but you brought
another remote viewer in and it was she over overviewing
or viewing the Dennis Martin case too, just like me.
What were her results were her results kind of like mine?

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
I would say her results was almost identical to yours.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Yes, yeah, it's actually sad, honestly. Like we'll talk about
the case in a minute, but I'm just glad to
have some backup on that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Yes, yeah, you know, I try not to take one
source of information, especially you know, with with something that
I don't know about. You try to get multiple pieces
and if those those pieces of the puzzle, if they match,
well you got something there right right, And I was

(01:22:52):
I was so shocked. I was shocked at the results,
you know, and how accurate remote viewers can be.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Oh yeah, well, thank you. I'm super excited. I cannot
wait to see uh this uh this premiere. I will
be there at the premiere in January, of course, and
I'm gonna be speaking to Yes, I can't stop talking Greg.
Everywhere I go, I talk about something. But I will
get a microphone and I will bring a presentation and

(01:23:21):
we'll talk. I don't what would you like for me
to talk about Dennis Martin? You want me talk about
missing people? Or just dog me in a big foot?
I don't know what we'll talk.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
I guess coming, you know, talk about talk about your
first date. I don't care about you. Yeah, you talk
about whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
To talk about that. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it'll
be a great time.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
I know you do you?

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Okay? Okay? Well I do a lot on my my
cryptid research out in Alabama, and that's where we're going
to be out in Alabama for the premiere. And yeah,
I've done some pretty intense dog man investigations out there.
But Bakehead for us, and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yeah, the film was done. Bankhead is just weird.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
It is weird. We hiked in five over five miles, Greg,
I haven't talked to you about this. We hiked in
over five miles and we did a like biv whac
Basically I set up a hammock out there. But we
spent the weekend out there where some of our friends
had been surrounded by dog men and didn't know if
they were going to survive the night when they were

(01:24:36):
out there, and as we were getting oh no, it
was fun. It was a lot of fun. But when
we were hiking in this man comes walking out of
the woods, Greg holding a stone and he was like, hey, y'all,
y'all know about dragons, and we're like, have I not
told you about this?

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Okay. He was like, uh, this is a drag piece
of a dragon's wing, and he said, this is a
from a petrified dragon. He said, I've been coming out
here and this is so weird. How random is at
I mean, there's nobody out there, it's the middle of nowhere.
This man comes out holding a rock limestone, It's got
a curve to it. It looks like a piece of

(01:25:15):
a dragon's wing. He said, I'll take you to it.
I've been coming out here for years. My wife hikes
the trails while I clean off my dragon. And he
had a brush in his hand and he had been
He goes out there and he brushed the limbs and
the debris off this dragon. He said, do you go
over this over here, you're going to hike over its wing,
And sure enough, it looked exactly like a dragon. I'll
see you pictures of it. I'll shoot. I'll send you

(01:25:37):
the corner this one day if you want to go
see it. But oh wow, yeah, it's amazing. There's I
call it my Alabama dragon. It's not mine, but to me,
it's it's it's in my heart, you know. Okay, it
was a it's a dragon. It made up this body,
made up the entire hill. M Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Well, well, if dragons were real, I mean you would
expect for it to be that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Big huge it I could have written on it about
it was like bigger than a charger buss.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Yeah, well you know dinosaurs are that big.

Speaker 6 (01:26:08):
So yeah, well, I mean dragon to me, if I
can kind of see something like blowing fire out of
its mouth, because you know you can, that's not unrealistic.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
You know, you got bugs that shoot out acid and stuff,
you know, rear ends, so it's it's not unheard of.
We're not impossible. I guess for something to spit out
two liquids that combined together that can bust, right, So
I could see that happening at one point and if

(01:26:47):
you want to call that a dragon, Okay, But I
don't know if I could see him flying, you know,
being that heavy, uh, you know, unless they got some
jet propulsion up under him or something.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
I don't know, there's some aid something coming out of
their backside, like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Yeah, yeah, maybe they or something back then or something.
I don't don't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Who knows, who knows this world is? We've we've been
lied to about everything we.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Certainly have, you know. But yeah, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Gonna like that talk. I know. I've got my friend
sovereign in here. He likes to talk about farts, okay.
And it's always yes, it's always in the chat. It's
been in the chat several times tonight, by the way,
so right up the alley tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Yeah. The last outing Jamie was doing that horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Absolutely j is going to, oh, you're gonna get it
next time she sees you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Oh wow, this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Is for entertainment purposes only, and it's probably not true. Okay, it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Was horrible, Jamie.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
You're welcome to come on my show and to counter
to counter balance this one day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
God Jamie, Jamis damy come on girl, wow? Greg?

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Anyway, I tell you what y'all Jamie, you are welcome
to come on here and you can talk all you
want about Greg. Okay, I'll let y'all do get out.
But anyways, Okay, so the bay, let's just say Bakehead
Forest for instance, and that is that is a place
where they have a lot of I'm gonna say, like
violent kind of big foot encounters a little more word aggressive.

(01:28:27):
Aggressive is a better word.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Aggressive is a much better word. You know. I don't
personally know of anybody that's been attacked by one out there,
and personally I don't know if anybody that's been attacked
by a bigfoot at all. However, the ones there in
Bankhead do get particularly aggressive, uh. And I don't know
if they're not playing with you or what, but they'll

(01:28:48):
surround you in there, they did, and they'll make you
really think that you're going to die. They will make
you think that. Uh. You know, I understand that feeling
because that's the way we felt when we were at
the Land between the Lakes, you know, in that situation there.
And I tell you, you know, a lot of people

(01:29:11):
don't know this about Adam Davies. He was in the
British military and his job was to go out and
hunt down warlords and war criminals. And he's been in
firefights and all sorts of things, and you know, very
life threatening situations. And he when this thing started growling
at us there, you know, his military training kicked in.

(01:29:34):
It's like, okay, we're going to push this thing back.
And every time we took a step forward, it would
just growl a us raw and eventually, you know, we
were successful in pushing it back into the woods. And
then all of a sudden, rocks and stuff started being
thrown at us from our left. And I said, hey,
we've got rocks sowing from our from the left. And
then Adam turned around and you know, you can kind

(01:29:54):
of see it in his face. He's like, oh my god,
they're flanking us and too him. That was a military tactic,
you know, And he said he had that is when
he said that he was actually really concerned about his life.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Meant going home that day, Like they were trained to
do that or yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Why they were. They were working with a plan.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Yeah, right, like Planet of the Apes, but right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
And he he said he had underestimated how smart they were.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Oh man, yeah, they're like grill real life guerrilla warfare.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Yeah, yeah, something like that. But you know, but getting
back to Bankhead, you know, that's just one spooky place.
You know, even in the day time you go there,
it's spooky, you know, Bankhead is uh, you know, there's

(01:30:55):
there's I don't have a lot of comforting words to
say about it other than it's pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
I've slept five miles in hiking in in a hammock.
Greg out there four other guys, four guys, yeah, five
was it four? Yeah, four guys and myself there were
five of us and yeah, and oh by the way,
we went looking for dog Man. And then the next
day we got up and there were and there were
big foot footprints all around, like we ran into some

(01:31:22):
big foot prints. No dog man prints, just bigfoot. So
whatever was out there, I think instead of it being
dog man, it was probably more likely aggressive bigfoot actually
was our conclusion.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Yeah. Did were you able to measure the footprints? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
I can't remember how big they were. I've got pictures
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Okay, the ones that we came across there was sixteen inches.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
I think what we were getting actually were more toe prints,
like because it was going up at hill and so
it was like a partial footprint, and it wasn't huge. Okay,
so it wasn't like a huge print, But I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Know of that there was at least two in there
that hung out together. One was you know, between eight
and nine foot range, and the other one was a
much smaller one, probably only about six foot. Now, he
was a he was a juvenile. Well say, you know,
younger dude, younger bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Well, I've had reports under there of dog men with
blue eyes. Two two dog men with blue eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Yeah, so I'm not, like I said, I've not been
that close to uh, to him, to uh to get
a good to look at their eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
It might have been eye shine actually shine. Yeah, Well,
nobody got that close in the daytime to a dog man.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Now, when we were at the land between the lakes,
when the thing, when the big foot moved off into
the woods, its eyes started glowing. It was a luminous glow.
Now some call it, I guess some people call it
eye shine, and I guess their eyes would shine.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
There's there's two different things. There's there's the eye shine
and there's eye glows, two different things. The eye shine
would be more like a like a reflective kind of thing,
and the eye glow is like with self illuminating.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
And that's what I take that back. You know, when
when the thing was standing in front of my truck
and I was just petrified, I want to say petrified.
I was. I didn't know what I would what to do,
but I was able to get its eyes, So yes,
you're you're correct. They do how their eyes do reflect

(01:33:28):
and I guess that's eyes shine. And when it moved
off into the woods, then his eyes started glowing, so
I guess, yeah, you're right one percent. They have the
two different things, you know, going on.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Oh yeah, well, okay, I've got some questions about the
Smoky Mountains that I want to ask you to and
I want to thank Shelley Montgomery. Thank you so much,
Shelley for that super stick. You're Shelley, says Jessica, and
Greg was a thank you so much. That's so sweet.
I appreciate your support. Shelley, thank you for being here.
And also Michelle, thank you for being becoming a member

(01:34:03):
of the Hunt Club tonight over here. I saw that too,
Thank you, Michelle. That's so sweet. Okay, So I wanted
to kind of kind of get back into the Feral
People conversation just a little bit because you were actually
shown I don't know if it was pointed out or
on a map or whatever. There's like feral people, yeah,
by a park ranger or somebody showed you that. Now,

(01:34:25):
some of the possibilities of what happened to Dennis Martin,
and that's he is featured in your film. You and
I have talked about it. I'm on your film talking
about it, and some of the possibilities of where he
went where. You know, people believe that he could have
been taken by a feral person or a bigfoot of
all things.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Yes, either one of the two could be very very possible. Now,
there was some data that somebody had got that I
don't know if it was overlooked or what, but somebody
had seen a figure that was kind of wearing some
kind of scans or just what it was described of

(01:35:05):
running up a hill and it was carrying something on
his shoulder and it looked like something wearing a red shirt. Now,
Dennis Martin was wearing a red shirt when he went disappearing.
But one reason why it was dismissed is because it
was so far away from from the point where he

(01:35:30):
had disappeared. In such a short time, you know. So, yeah,
so there was some data that if acted upon, maybe
you know, they could have found out what happened to him.
But you know, still it's it's a it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
Mystery, Yeah it is. Well, of course we talk on
your film about what my data said, and the people
who were watching my audience knows, we've we've talked about
it before, and I do believe, according to my data,
there probably was some kind of human trafficking involved with
his disappearance. And and I gotta say, I know this

(01:36:09):
is this is all speculation, this is all rumored that
I'm not saying this is true. But I've been told
that there's a lot of trafficking that goes on in
the Smoky Mountains and especially like I don't know, Gatlinberg's
in the Smoky Mountains, right, Pigeon Forge and stuff. And
there's certain places like Dollywood. I've been told that they're

(01:36:29):
kind of like Disney World when it comes to like,
you know, you got to watch your kids places like that,
because they do have a lot of underground tunnels and
stuff like that. And unfortunately, I think that that could
be where a lot of these missing people, and especially
the children are probably going places like that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
So yeah, when I had done both remote viewers, I
was wanting to compare the data, and the data came
out nearly nucle Yeah, both mentioned this rock field. Really, yes,

(01:37:07):
both of you guys mentioned that rock field. I don't
know if you remember that or not.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
No, I don't know. Right here, I can look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
You will once you see.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Are you gonna are you gonna do like side by
side comparisons?

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Hopefully be side by side. We are one right after another.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
But you'll you'll you'll see the comparisons in there. So so,
but you know, I wanted to contrast, but there's not
much to contrast.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Yeah, it just.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Wasn't been much there to contrast. I mean, uh, the
only other one, uh the other Tilly, she just knew
that it was trafficked, and but she didn't know where
the body was. Yeah, she said, you know, she said,
you know, I'm getting trashed inspirtation, but I don't know

(01:38:02):
where the body is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
So yeah, wow, well where just I can't wait to
see your film. It is a tragedy. This little boy
is only six years old old, and this is on
June nineteen sixty nine, Denis Lloyd Martin walked off to
play a prayer just search effort in the history of
the Great Smoky Mountains National Park and that is him

(01:38:27):
right there, and he was never seen again. And it
is absolutely just had been devastating for that family to
have never seen their son ever again after that. And
I mean, I would hope that you know, just shedding
light on that and you including this in your documentary,

(01:38:48):
I mean and even having you know, remote viewers looking
into this, maybe it will help bring a little bit
more closure.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
To the.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
To the family. Maybe even though it is it's kind
of dark, Greg, it is, it's kind of it's kind
of dark, and it's it's really sad. Uh. I think
everybody just you know, would want closure.

Speaker 7 (01:39:10):
I would think, yeah, And I really do hate that
for the families and we and in no way did
we want to like reopen wounds for for the families.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
And uh, if they're any way offended, and you know,
I hope it, really do hope they take my sincereus apologies,
not for us to offend them or reopen wounds or
anything like that. But there is genuine interest in public
interest in the in the missing. Yeah. But but it

(01:39:44):
is so dark, It is so dark. Where where to
lead to? Uh? However, the mic Heuron case is not
so satisfied, you know. Yeah, the Dennis Martin case, to me,
it's satisfied to me personally, but my key Rod case

(01:40:09):
is not. I think, yeah, I think something.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
What do you mean something else? What do you mean
like something else?

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Well, we went out to test the veracity of what
Mike's Adam's theory was legs. I saw a big foot there,
camera guy, I saw a big foot there. You know,
he left seventeen and a half inch prints behind it.
It was there, not far from there. We encountered weird themes.

(01:40:47):
There's been multiple accounts of bigfoots in that area. I
talked with a ranger who says, yeah, pharoh, people exist,
they're up there. My personal opinion he was gotten about
one of those. You think, so yeah, I think I

(01:41:12):
think he was got by one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
So so Adam actually went out there in the in
the the young lady that send the film out there
with them. I mean, do they do a pretty thorough investigation?

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Yes. Natalie is fantastic at research, fantastic With Dennis Martin,
she went through the FBI files and was just, Oh,
she's very good at what she does at work, right,
and she's just applied that to what to do in this.

(01:41:47):
So it was your data, Tilly's data, FBI stuff. They
had all similar information that kind of fits together. That's
why Dennis Martin I think is solved, right, I think
I think it's solved. However, my keron the information was

(01:42:07):
more elusive. The police were not cooperative, so getting data
was much more difficult. Nobody wanted to cooperate with us.
So when they went out to investigate, you know, the area,
to see, well what's out here. Yeah, when we're getting

(01:42:30):
some strange things, you know, definitely seeing warps, definitely hearing
the the What was the weirdest was these metal sounds,
the sting, these weird metal sounds, and it kept getting closer,
you know, and that was a little bit disturbing that
these metal pons was getting closer. Yeah. I saw a

(01:42:51):
flash that we very much resembled what I had seen
at the l b L with the portal. Uh. That
was behind some trees and some foliage and stuff, so
I couldn't get a whole good look at it, but
it was on a trail and I think that that
a portal opened up because it was very it's very

(01:43:14):
similar conditions to what h what I had seen up
in the l B L and what Scott Carpenter had filmed,
and what Adam had seen where he had seen a
portal very similar conditions, all three with very similar conditions. Okay,

(01:43:37):
So I think I saw a portal open up, but
it was only for a flash, right. I think something
else happened to Mike. I think it was more more
cryptid related rather than just human related.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Oh well, I can't wait to see what the film
shows with the investigation, because I'm super interested in that.
I had not heard of Mike's case until today. Okay.
When I asked you, I was like, who else have
you guys looked, you know at in your film? And
he told me, and I was like, and so I
immediately started doing my research on him, and it is

(01:44:17):
a pretty fascinating case now. Of course, when I when
I had remote viewed the missing Person's clusters, I was
given a couple of different blind targets my friend Barry,
and he kept pushing me to like keep going deeper
into these targets, and it made me physically sick and
from doing that, and I was literally sick for at

(01:44:37):
least a week to two weeks after that, drained all
my energy, and it was so I want to say,
I was like horrific in a way with some of
the data that I was getting because he asked me.
He would he would always ask me after I got
done with the session, he say, what do you think
this is? And I was like, well, and this is
in regard to people missing out of our national parks.
And I said, well, first of all, there there's kidnapping.

(01:45:04):
There's people being taken to a under underground they're being
experimented on and then they're being disposed of. And I
told him, and he asked me, well, what was the facility?
What was this like? And I said, well, it was
I was either under the Vatican or under Fort Knox
or the Smithsonian, like I had all these like places
that I was like, it's some sort of a facility

(01:45:25):
that would be like top secret almost like you have
to have some kind of clearance to get in, you
know what I mean? And like it's guarded like Fort
Knox is what I told him. And uh, but there's
there's something very sinister going on, rag something very sinister and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
So too, particularly if you believe the U the UH
treaty that was with between the United States and the Grays. Yes,
you know, if you believe that treaty, Yes, there's something

(01:46:04):
really weird going on, and experimentation is one of those
things that's going on. A lot of people don't know this.
When I was a kid, I had a UFO experience,
a very very close encounter UFO experience.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Oh excuse you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
Oh yes, I did. Well. I was very little, probably
four maybe five, and it was with my two older brothers,
two older cousins, and we were on a road going
into my grandmother's. So we're on this road and this
giant beam just shines down on us, just boom, and

(01:46:48):
you try to look up. You know, you can't see
be on the lot, you know that. But the next
thing I know, I remember looking at my hands like this,
and I'm like, wow, I can feel the light. You
could feel it now, I would liken it to static electricity, right,
But it was so bright you could not see beyond

(01:47:09):
the edge of the light, right. And what was so
weird was the light didn't diffuse. It was just it
was just when it hitted the ground it didn't not
reflect off, it just poom it it it ended, but
you couldn't see past that edge of the light. I
remember being terrified. Then my next memory was being on

(01:47:32):
the porch of my grandmother's and it was a covered porch,
old country house, and I remember thinking, how is the
light coming through the porch, you know, because the whole
porch was lit up anyway, And then the light lifted
It didn't turn off, and when it lifted up, I

(01:47:55):
never saw the craft, but my oldest brother did. He
said it was giant aunt trying or took up the
whole sky and just went yeah, and what's gone? Okay.
The weird thing about this was is none of us
remember how we got from the road to my grandmother's
sports none of it. We all have that missing gap.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
Oh my gosh. Wow, that explains a lot. Actually, it
really well, it kind of does, you know. I mean,
I have a history of possible abductions like that in
my family as well. My great grandmother and my great
aunt had something like that happened in Rome, Georgia back
in the nineteen eighties, and a light came down over

(01:48:36):
their car just like that, like you described. And the
next thing. They know, they're a county over and it's
been a couple of hours. They've missed a two hours
time or an hour time, and they were twenty miles
down the road. They had no idea how they got there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Yeah, it was like this, We had no idea. However,
I will say this, when it first happened, it was
it was almost dark, but you could still steal a
little bit of a light in the sky, right, But
when it was over complete blackness, I mean, it's just dark, dark,
dark dark. I don't know what time. I don't remember

(01:49:12):
what time it was.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
What about your brothers, we.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
All have the same memory gaps.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
Really.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Yeah. Not long ago, my aunt passed away and I
was like, okay, it's time to talk about this because
you know, you know, the UFO stuff had been coming up,
with the tic tac ufo and all that stuff, and
I was like, hey, do you all remember when this happened?
And you know, so we were all sitting there talking
about it, and I said, do you remember how we
got from the road to the porch? And they don't remember.

(01:49:41):
None of us remember.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Well I'm not saying it was aliens, but it might
have been aliens.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
That's one of the reasons why I hadn't really gone
alien hunting because of my father.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
You know, Oh man, once you get on the radar.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Yeah, I know, right, that's one of the reasons why
I hadn't gone alien.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Yeah. They Well, here's the thing, like, I never could
remember having any kind of ET contact until I started
going big footing. And then I had that missing time
where I had that recorder out and I was hearing
bottle rockets shooting off and the next thing I know,
I'm waking up with ET's in my bedroom. So twice. Yeah,
so that's it's all connected.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Right to what I teach you to come home with
a hangover.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Oh man. At least I wasn't calling me from behind
the bathhouse, just kidding. Oh man, it was just in
my bathroom basically.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
But yeah, no, better, Yeah, that's that's weird. But and
I'll tell you what, not too long ago, I was
doing one of these god helmet things.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
Oh yeah, the trade. We were doing it at the meadow.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Before we were doing one at the meadow. And you know,
when was at the meadow, I did see some things
that I didn't see an alien. I did see like
weird space ships or whatever. I didn't see an alien.
I was doing in Missouri and there I saw aliens.
I saw the classic ray. It was like, h there
was this you know that everything went white for a

(01:51:21):
minute and then then you kind of went into this
seeing what was there. And there was like these two
walls that was up and this alien was like looking
dead at me like this right through there, you know,
like like yeah, kind of like shining, yeah, kind of
like that. And I'm like, what the hell. But I
saw it twice, the same thing twice.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Oh my god, that's creepy. That's a little creepy. But yeah,
you know, I don't I don't know how all this
stuff is related. But this stuff is related to when
you get out there and start doing all this research
and and I just wanted to and I say this
as a take it as a word of caution. Okay,
if you're going to go out there and go big footing,

(01:52:03):
be prepared to have aliens in your bedroom when you
get home at night. I'm just oh, yeah, just be prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
All related. I mean, that's one of the things that
that we've learned when we were making Booger, our first film,
you know, And I'll be honest, when I first started
making Bogger, I thought, you know, it's it's a wood.
If it exists, it's a wood ape, right, you know. Uh?
And you know, over the years, I was just started
going with the data and then I've completely changed, completely changed,

(01:52:32):
and I was not prepared for all the other things
that I was going to experience while I was out. Yeah,
it's all related.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
It's all related somehow. And that means I can't say
I've ever seen a big foot getting off a UFO
or anything or getting into one, or I don't I
don't think it's like that. But there's just something I
don't know if it's the same frequency or like I
just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
If that's the thing is uh, you know, talk about
these awards, right, I think a lot of things can
be an ORB. Like I think when we die, when
we pass away, we're still just energy. Right, Well, who's
to say that we can't that we don't manifest as
an ORB later, right? Or what if other beings have

(01:53:19):
the ability to transform into an ORB. What if it's
natural for most of the universe to be able to
do that, you know, So maybe I'm not saying it's
just bigfoot having these abilities. Maybe there's lots of things
that have these abilities and we just don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
I know, we're we're like, we're behind the time. We
should be able to turn into orbs. Yeah right, I
mean maybe that's something we should work on next time we're.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
If you're around and camp, you'll turn into an orbit.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
I'm going to work on turning into an ORB. You know.
I don't know. We'll see. Bob turned into an ORB
a long time ago. He did. He turned into an
ORB and shot across the field and uh and and
that was weird, okay, and he didn't that was I'm
going to say it was before. But I don't know.

(01:54:08):
I can't around the same time, I think. I mean,
we've been going out there for a while, so but.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
But you know, he'll argue to you, he'll argue about that.
But he didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
Yeah, he didn't. Yes, I have a wonderful interview with
Bob by the way, because Bob didn't do a lot
of interviews. But I do have an interview with Bob
that I shot on location near the meadow, not at
the meadow, but near it, and I sat down with
him in our camping chairs, and turned my camera on
and and it's one of the best interviews ever and

(01:54:39):
Bob Bob, Bob tells all and it's on my It's
on my YouTube channel, on my playlist. You guys want
to check out my field research playlist.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
So I tell you. And I don't know if you
were you might have been there. I can't remember. We're
at one of the memorials for Bob. And you know,
I had done a h a god helmet session and
then immediately Shay had led us into a group of
meditation session, and you know, I was telling my story

(01:55:10):
about what I saw. I was like, okay, you know,
I saw all these other things, but I saw this
big white orb and it had a black dot in
the middle. I didn't know what it was. And then
Trey turned up and he said, oh, yeah, I know
what that is. I'll tell you what a later and
then I said, yeah, I saw Bob, you know, And
I was going on about what Bob looked like, you know,
blah blah blah. And the later they said that Bob

(01:55:32):
had seen that orb with a white with a white
orb with a black dot in the middle, right he did.
And I didn't know that, right, I did. I didn't
know that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
I remember that I was there when you when this happened.
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
I was doing the meditation with you guys, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
If you remember, I left immediately afterwards, like because it
disturbed me. I had never had a psychic experience before, right,
and it disturbed me. And not only did it disturb me,
I was feeling guilty because I didn't know Bob like
you guys did. So I got it when when I

(01:56:11):
went and got in the truck, I was like, Bob,
I said, you know, I said, why a me? Everybody
else should have had that experience. And just as sure
as me and you are sitting here talking, I heard
he said it had to be you. I'm like, yeah, no,
I'm not kidding. I said, what you mean, Bob? I said,

(01:56:31):
why did it had to be? He said? Everybody else
knew that story.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
I love it that. If that's not confirmation, Greg, I
don't know what it is. I'm just saying he was right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
He said everybody else story.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
We all knew that story.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
Yeah, and I didn't. Right. Me and Bob had a
conversation all going until I was driving up the hill
and he was arguing with me from beyond.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
That was hilarious. But that's that's the real deal, you
know what. And it's really interesting when we when we
don't put limits on our physical selves and we we
think outside the box and we're able to take the
time to explore our psychic abilities and and to be
able to tune into other something else, you know, not
just like this little physical reality and these little three

(01:57:23):
D boxes that we're taught to live in, our little
matrix system. You know, when you realize that there's more,
and when someone passes away, they're still here, you know,
just like your mother as you watch as she she
passed on. You know. Uh, when we can tap into
something to to I want to say, the ether, Okay,

(01:57:44):
basically you tap into higher consciousness there and you think
outside the box and we are limitless beings. We can do.
There's a lot we can do. And I know it
was kind of shocking for you that day.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
Right was in the know that day I was I
was disturbed for months after all, no months. Uh. But
and he left me with this uh and he had
said that uh he wanted you know, as like, why
do you want to be buried here? You know, somehow

(01:58:18):
we got on that subject. And he says, he says,
it's not so much the place. He says, it's the
place where all of the people he loved gathers together.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
Oh, man, don't make me cry, Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
That's right what he left me with this.

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
I love that. That's Bob for sure. And yes, yes,
that's wonderful, Greg, that's confirmation right there. And and you
are tuned in, tapped in for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
Well, I don't know. Whatever it was, it was weird,
it was real, and it was real.

Speaker 1 (01:58:57):
Yeah, it was weird. I was gonna say weird.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
It is real.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
It's real. It is real. Goods out there. And and
I don't know, I like doing weird stuff in the
woods with weird people. I don't know about you.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
I love it. I absolutely love getting out, you know,
going out in the woods and there's nothing. You know,
you don't know what you're going to experience, right you know,
you might experience an org, you might experience some weird
person coming into your camp, and you know it's something weird.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
You know, we've experienced it all, Greg, And I'm so
glad that I got to hang out. I get to
hang out with you in the woods. Occasionally, and it
is fun. It is fun.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Well, it gets a lot of fun. You know. I
don't get to do it enough. I wish I got
to do it more. Man. Maybe one day I'll retire
and I'll do it full time. But until I do
it sparingly. But I love every minute of it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Me too, Me too.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
All the best tells and stories that I can from
it so that everybody else can experience what we do.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
You're putting it on the big screen too. And uh
and hey, I got to do an interview with you
around the campfire actually, and that was kind of fun.
I was I felt like I was in my element
right there actually.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
And I can't wait. I can't wait to see how
it turns out. Yeah, I'm absolutely gonna love it for sure.
Why don't you tell the audience this has been a
wonderful conversation with you tonight, Greg. I've really enjoyed it.
And I hope and I pray you'll come back and
come hang out with me again soon. And please, Okay,

(02:00:39):
it's a lot of fun, and I want you to
please tell the audience about the film where they can
find it. I know Cryptoville, we got Mark Mark Mark's
in the chat, Mark may check up, and the l
BO is in here, and he put some of the
links in the chat tonight for the premiere of The Vanished.
So if you'd like to tell the audience all about
the premiere and whatever else you got.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Yeah, So I had a premiere last year, went great.
Now having another one, you know, a year from then,
a year from then, the premiere of The Vanished. It's
going to be a conference and premiere of the film
going to have a whole list of speakers. Uh, there's Tree,

(02:01:23):
I said, there's the uh, the mysterious Cryptid Huntress. That's me.

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
Crazy yearman.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
She's going to be there. Sir Brian Bowden's coming. Yes,
there's a ton of great speakers coming. There's gonna be
a ton of fun. There's gonna be food. Uh, there's
gonna be games and contest. It's going to be a
great time. And it's going to be inside, So it
doesn't matter if it's going to be raining, it doesn't

(02:01:55):
matter if it's cold. It's going to be inside. Uh.
Of course there'll be your vendors and all that up
there too, and it'll start at nine o'clock. It's in Gardendale, Alabama,
at the Gardendale Civic Center. It's a beautiful place, absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:11):
It's a very safe area, extremely safe. Lots of hotels
and things in the area, so you don't have to
worry about where am I going to stay? You do
I have to camp out? I know you don't have
to camp out. But at the end of the show,
at the end of the conference, we're going to show
the premiere of the film, and I can I can't wait.

(02:02:34):
I really can't wait, to be honest with you. But
you know it's going to be shown on a big
projector it's not like it's going to be at the
movie theater. But you know, you get to have a
conference too, and it's really cheap. It's only like fifteen
bucks to get in. That's really cheap for a conference.
I'm sorry, it's really cheap. I still looking for vendors,

(02:02:57):
you know. Vendors is only fifty bucks. You know, you
want on the table and come out and share your
stuff and uh sell it. Make a few bucks. Come
on out and you can get your tickets on event
Bright Event Bright and the premiere, the premiere and the.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
Vanished, the Vanished on event Bright Okay, I didn't put
that on my banner. I'm sorry, I didn't know. Let's see,
I'll put it right here the finished Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Once uh, once I get uh these last two segments done,
I'm going to be you know, pumping it more and
promoting it more. But I'm kind of, you know, driving
hard to finish these these last two segments, you know,
because I have a tendency to get ninety percent done
and then kind of you know, that's kind of to do,

(02:03:48):
and then all of a sudden, I'm there there at
the last minute, right, Oh, I got to finish this,
you know. Uh. So I want to go ahead and
try to get finished early so that I can have
DVDs and all this other stuff ready to So at this.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
Premiere, I have faith you can do it. You can
do it. You get it done. You'll get it done. Yeah,
you've got a couple of months, but of course we
do have Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up, so we do.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
Yeah. And you know, whenever you do a film, it's
not like you you do the film and woof, it's done. No,
that's your first version is done. You have to go
back and look at it and tweak it and then
rerender it, and you know, it's our long process even
after you get it done, so it's not done even

(02:04:35):
when you're when you're done.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
Yeah, well you you got to be you're perfectionist probably, Okay,
And see with me, with my shows and stuff that
I do. I hit one button and I go live,
and then I hit a button and end the show
and I'm done.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
Well, I did do some editing. I have done some
editing lately. I had my a wonderful guest on this week,
and he told some pretty risky jokes and I had
to go in and kind of cutting them out before
I could hear the show. Okay, so I don't wonder
why it was a little choppy. I had to take
a couple of the jokes out there, and you know,
there's a couple of things I had to cut out.
So but anyways, yeah, that's very rare. I never have

(02:05:12):
to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Yeah, you know, editing is an art. Editing is an art.
You know, it is to put things together so that
it makes sense. It's an art, but it's one I
love doing. I absolutely love editing, and I am a perfectionist.

(02:05:35):
I don't want to show somebody else something that sucks.
I really don't. If I don't, if I don't like
it myself, I'm not going to show it.

Speaker 7 (02:05:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:43):
Oh I feel you. I feel you well. Your your
movies are absolutely wonderful. I cannot wait to see the
new one, The Vanished. If you guys want to come
join us, come see us July, not July January. I
don't know what?

Speaker 2 (02:05:59):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
Where am I? What day is it? It's January? The
thirty first? Is that that's a Saturday. It starts at
nine a m. That's early. That's Alabama time.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
It's Alabama times.

Speaker 1 (02:06:09):
It's ten am my time.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:06:12):
Yeah, so that's all just all day. Yeah, I'll have
to come to somewhere close.

Speaker 2 (02:06:18):
It's an alday thing. And I'm teeter tottering on whether
or not I want to have a party afterwards. Yeah,
it's the same, the same event. So I've got.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
The Okay, Well, I will definitely have to find a
place to come crash somewhere so I don't have to
drive back and forth if you're having a party, because
I might have to go to party, okay, just saying.
And there's big foots out that way too, so I
might go bigfooting maybe we'll just all go camping. Yeah,

(02:06:48):
oh my gosh. And hopefully we will not go vanished
vanishing after the I'm saying, yes, I hope not. But
but greg that's this is so wonderful. Thank you so
much for being here. Where are people find you? You
have a YouTube channel and I do.

Speaker 2 (02:07:03):
You can find me in Gregor's Relic Films media. You
can find me on Facebook. I'm very existent accessible on Facebook, TikTok,
and you can find my films at on two btv
and Roku and all the other streaming platforms. And the
first one's called The Downy Booger. The second ones of

(02:07:25):
the Land between the Lakes. Third one is going to
be The Vanished, coming out January thirty first, twenty twenty six.
You'll love it. I actually really like it, and join
my channel on YouTube. There's going to be some exciting
things coming up. I'm also going to be starting a
new podcast type TV show. It's called Beyond the Ordinary.

(02:07:47):
We're going to have some great show, great episodes, and
it's going to be a little bit different than your
normal podcasts. So stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
Oh, I can't wait. That's exciting, super exciting, big things
popping over there, Greg, I can appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:03):
Yeah, we'll got lots of irons in the fire.

Speaker 1 (02:08:06):
Yes, well, strike while the iron's hot. Okay, it's amazing. Okay,
well wonderful. Well, thank you so much. I know listen,
I will see you back out in the wood soon hopefully.
If not, if I don't see between now and the premiere,
I'll see you at the premiere, yeah for sure, and
hopefully you'll come back and hang out with me again.
This has been really fun tonight, so a lot of fun. Okay, Well,

(02:08:28):
thank you guys so much, everybody for being here tonight.
I wanted to thank Long Island Bigfoot Mike for being
a member of the Hunt Club for I think it
said eighteen months Calle. Thank you. You're almost two, Mike're
almost two over here. Thank you. Easiest way to show support.
Thank you. If you guys would like to become a
member of the Hunt Club, just hit the joint button
on my YouTube channel. It's a membership. You get exclusive

(02:08:50):
videos and you get a little you get your name.
Your name turns up green in the shatyall, so it's
pretty cool. But anyways, thank you for your support, Mike,
and thank you to everybody who gave superstickers. And I
did want to mention this comment from Cryptonville. He said,
Brent's eyes were glowing when you got back from to camp.
That's how I knew what happened was real, and I
wanted to point that out. I thought that was cool.

(02:09:11):
That was must have been the LBL. Right, yes, okay,
very cool. Well, thank you for being here a Cryptonville,
and thank you to all my moderators putting all these
links in the chat all night and for being so
flipping awesome. And y'all come back and see me on
Saturday night. We'll be back here on the Hunt at
ten pm Eastern, nine Central. And Greg, thanks again. Please

(02:09:32):
stay safe out there, Greg. And I don't know, I
think it's cool. I hadn't heard most of these stories,
the encounters you've had tonight, so this has been a
treat for me as well as audience. Okay, so, and
maybe hey, I want to go to Macintosh sometime to
maybe we can all get.

Speaker 2 (02:09:48):
Up there an hour from there, right, I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
Even live an hour from there. It's closer than that.
I want to go get my ankles grab all right,
kidd Janice? Okay, Oh my God, I'm just kidding. All Right,
we'll have a great night. Greg, y'all have a wonderful night,
and I'll see y'all back here on Saturday. All right,
bye y'all, Bye, See s

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