The War Cry: Indian Burial Mound Investigation with Mike of MT Paranormal Life

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Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh, good afternoon, everybody. It's the Crypted Huntress. I'm Jessica John.
Welcome into a glitch in the matrix today where things
always get a little glitchy. Hopefully not today though, And man,
do we have a fantastic show for you guys today.
I have Mike Turning Coosa here in the studio. He
is with Empty Paranormal Life. You guys can find him

(01:18):
over on YouTube. He is a filled researcher, a ghost hunter,
a paranormalist, as Doctor John would say, paranormalist, crypti researcher
even and he just recently went out in the woods
with the cameraman and out of Ohio and they did
some interesting investigations out at some old Indian burial mounds actually,

(01:41):
and we're gonna hear about that today. It is really fantastic, y'all.
So buckle up, buttercups. We have a lot to discuss
as usual today and I want to thank you guys
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(02:25):
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(03:26):
let's see let's get to our show today. Okay, okay,
So today we have Mike Tornicosa joining us to discuss
his recent investigation with the cameraman at a Native American
burial mound site and the deep forests of northeastern Ohio.
From cryptis to poultrygeist, slaps and war cries, his investigation

(03:49):
did not disappoint. We're gonna hear all about it in
just a minute. Mike investigates some incredible research areas around
northeast Ohio, and he's led anywhere the paranormal takes him.
He bridges the gap between the living and the dead.
You guys can find him over on his YouTube channel.
It is called Empty Paranormal Life, Please help me. Welcome

(04:10):
to the show, y'all. Mike. What's up? Mike? Hello, Hello,
chat Hey Mike, thank you for being here. This is
this is our first live show we've gotten to do together.
What's up?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Live shows are always fun?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
They are they are so the audience you guys know
that Mike was here about what about a month or
two ago. It's been a little while. Yeah, about a month.
He came on and we had a recorded show for
you guys because I was out of town and I
had a bunch of conferences and stuff. So uh so, yeah,
this is this is gonna be fun. We get audience
interaction today. Mike. But what have you been up to?

(04:50):
Tell me what you've been doing.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I mean, it's pretty much the same thing, you know.
I'm usually out filming. I try to get out several days,
go do from places, revisit a lot of active places,
and film see what happens. You know, it's all about
the experiences for me more than the answer. So I
try to go out often and regular because from my

(05:13):
experience so far, it's it's a matter of regularity with consistency,
and it seems like eventually things fall into place. You know,
the time, the energy, it's all so variable, so it's
like you never know. So the best thing to do
is keep going, keep going, and keep going.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, well, you've got some good spots that you guys
go to. And I did watch your Halloween special. Okay,
you you were out in some haunted house, and I thought, Man,
I am so glad. I do not go explore haunted houses.
Tell me about that? What was what was up with that?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well? I don't know if you know who t mac
is t Max's American Experience, but he's he's a friend
of mine and Jack the cameraman, and he seems to
know quite a bit of people who have places where
things have happened, like that was a friend of his
who owned it, and the story behind it was like

(06:13):
when he started telling me, I was like, wow, I'm like,
how did you come across this? Pretty amazing? But there
was a house and I think his own township in Ohio.
It's pretty much still in northeast Ohio. And his friend
told them the story, you know, because he teamac does
kind of hiking videos and he investigates looking into cryptodactivity

(06:34):
and things. And his friend told him the story about
the house, and they got possession of it back in
two thousand and eight and they were going to renovate
the house up and I guess rented out and during
the renovation process, they kept having really strange porter geist
activity and things happening, and everybody literally was scared and

(06:56):
they left. They left everything at the place and stopped
doing the renovations, and they it still sits the way
it was from two thousand and eight. It hasn't been
really touched. They rarely go out to the property anymore.
And when t Mac found out this, you know, he
was like, hey, you're probably gonna like this place. And
so I went out and investigated it, and I've had

(07:19):
some videos there. The very first video there was very
high energy a lot of things, and it's strange, you know,
It's like I was talking about how things change, like
it seems like the energy's high low. It's been kind
of like low there if you compare it to that
first experience there. So that's one of the places like
that where I just keep going back to when I

(07:40):
can and just to you know, log the changes and
what happens.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh gosh. Yeah, So a whole crew that was working
on the renovations of this house just up and left.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah. It was a family. Yeah, it was like a
family project. Oh and oh one other thing too, is
very interesting and this is some more strangeness there there.
This is a big I think it's like sixty some
acres and there's a lot of it is for hunting,
and the owner is a cop. He had friends that

(08:12):
are law enforcement that hunted, and one of them had
an experience where he left the tree stand because something
was saying his name. He heard something. He said it
sounded like his own voice saying his full name to him.
Oh and they called it like a mimic or something
like that. I don't know, this is what, you know.

(08:34):
What they were telling me was like, and there's this
weird mimic activity. They put it up in the tree
stand with this hunter. And so I've been up in
that tree stand seeing if I could make these things happen.
One of our friends, Spooky Matt, recently was there. He
tried the same thing again at a different day up
in that tree stand, and he captured it on his video.

(08:54):
He captured a voice whispering, said Matt to him when
he was up in the tree stand.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh wow, oh gosh, that was crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I was really I was actually excited that because it's
rare to get verification of some kind of acclaim like that.
But I think that was pretty close.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh yeah, you know what, There was one time where
I heard my own voice in the woods, but it
took me weeks to realize that was my own voice.
It took me off because it's so yeah, it's so
confusing when you hear your own voice, because first of all,
I've ever heard your voice, Like go back and watch
on your videos and you're like, ooh, do I really
sound like that?

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Okay, you know I.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Used to get that all the time. Now I'm just
it is what it is. I hear my voice a
lot now. But when I was a kid, I had well,
first of all, I had some I had a traumatic
incident where my uncle was on the radio. He was
a radio show host and he called me to do
an interview about a tornado that came through my town.
And I was the most country bumpkin little country girl
you've ever heard in your life on the radio. And

(09:53):
I was mortified. Okay, when I heard my voice, I said,
they was hail bows the size of golf ball. I'll
never forget that. I was like eight or seven, and uh,
and so I always after that, I started working to
like a nunciate, not with a country accent and stuff. Uh,
but anyways, I would listen to me, I would record

(10:14):
myself like I was, you know, uh, a news anchor
and stuff and h on my Fisher pricing and I'd listen,
and I always sounded different than when I thought I
sounded okay and uh. And so when you hear your
own voice or it's your own voice, I didn't say
my name or it didn't say my name, whatever it was. Uh,
but it was my voice saying time travel and uh.

(10:35):
And it was the more that I kept repeating time travel,
time travel exactly how that voice said it. It clicked
finally one day that's I'm saying it just like that voice,
because that was my voice, you know what I mean.
And uh, it is so weird and uh and it's
actually it's very scary actually hearing your own voice. Very scary.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I bet I hate my voice. So whenever like that
was something like you know, that's one of the many
things that's been a process for me because I when
I before I started doing this, I never touched the camera.
I never I hated you know, I hated like recordings,
seeing myself in recordings, you know, hearing myself. So once
I started doing my own videos, you know, and I

(11:19):
edit all my videos, so I hear me talk all
the time, and I always I don't like my own voice,
and when I edit, I'm always like critical. I'm always like, man,
I talk too much. I'm like, I need to I
need to shut up. I need to shut up more.
I talk too much. And now I keep doing it,
and I'm like, what the hell need to like put
a postal note on me?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
No, it's a that's wild though, Okay, having an entire
family run now, you know, I'm used to going out
in the woods and like we come across a band
in campsites and stuff where people set up a temporary
home for the weekend or whatever, and they just run
off in the middle of the night. Usually there's big
foot footprints around it or something. Something scares these people
in the middle of that I where they run off

(12:01):
and they never go back for their stuff. But imagine
having it be your own home that you're planning on
moving into. That is just absolutely crazy. And so do
they have I mean, if there's a mimic out in
the woods, I'm wondering, you know, because the last time
you came on the show to refresh the audience's memory.
Here in mind too, we actually were talking about your

(12:21):
cryptid adventures. Because you're you cover everything you're out there doing,
ghost hunting and paranormal investigations, but you're also out in
the woods a lot, you know, out in the woods
a lot, and you probably come across from Cryptis bigfoot
dog men maybe, and you go out with the cameraman
crew and stuff sometimes and they're bigfooters as well. And

(12:43):
your theory, and I love your theory, is that not
everything might be and I don't think that everything's always
bigfoot out in the woods. But there's a poultrer Geist
aspect to all this, right, yeah, yeah, can you tell
the audience, let's refresh the audience on that if you
don't mind.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, I guess it goes back to a book I read,
The Forest poter Geist w T. Watson, and he talked
about well, he did a comparison of reports from like
bf R, and then he showed like famous Porter geisting

(13:21):
accounts and things that have been documented, and a lot
of it was very similar. And I just started wondering
because a lot of these strange things, rocks being thrown, noises, voices,
It's like, I don't really, I've never seen what's making

(13:42):
these noises, you know. And and then the comparison about
how you know, porter guyst can do very similar. Things
can stack structures and homes, they can leave footprints, you know,
they can throw objects around. So it just was kind
of like it started connecting, like it almost seems like

(14:02):
the same kind of activity, like he was comparing, is happening,
and I was experiencing that a lot, and I hadn't
seen what was causing these things. So it's almost like,
in essence, the same kind of thing people experiencing homes
of porter geist activity, but it's happening out in the forest.
So without really knowing what's going on, I just started

(14:23):
referring to, you know, this activity as poortergeist like activity
because I wasn't able to identify what's causing it.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, we really don't know. It's it's really
kind of opened me up to the idea that, you know,
I tell the audience quite often that we manifest our
own reality. So always try to keep your vibrational frequency high,
keep your thoughts positive if you can. And because we do,
we kind of create. We bring in the experiences according
to like our vibrational frequency, like living in fear, living

(14:54):
in love, or being excited about something or being mad,
and and you know, going out in the woods and
you're wanting to go have like ghosts, have a bigfoot experience.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I always say, like, not everything's a bigfoot out there,
but we could be like I don't want to say conjuring.
Conjuring is a bad word, Okay, not a bad word.
But manifesting. Yeah, manifesting, you know, coming from a myself
having PK. I believe I've had PK abilities for most
of my life and I've watched you know, items levitate

(15:26):
off of my bedside table and float in the air
and stuff like that. I mean, I think that was me. Okay,
I do. I think it's probably me. I'm not so sure.
I know I lived in a haunted house, but I
think that the ingredients were right, okay to have stuff
like that happened there. But man, you know, we can
manifest these things. I mean, even the rocks being thrown
and stuff. That could be some kind of p K

(15:48):
ability that we have. It may not be bigfoot out there.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah. I always wonder too, even with the animals, like
you think it's possible, you know, like animal I mean,
I know, brains probably just a big difference in brain
you know, mass and everything, brain density, But you think
enough of like, you know, a big population of animals
could like cause you know, stress factors or emotional things

(16:16):
to the environment which could respond. You know, I thought
of things like that. And you know everything, the trees,
the plants, you know, it's all alive, so you know,
it's like affecting the environment, affecting the energy.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Man, I tell you what, this is the kind of
outside the box thinking. I like, okay, because it's stuff
that I don't I don't hear a lot of people
talking about this, okay, And for you to bring that up,
I think it's amazing, Okay. And uh, I don't know,
it's just it's just something to put out there, Okay,
I think that that could be. And and I wanted
to take one second to say thank you to Kent Baxter.

(16:54):
Thank you for that super sigre kin kid says. He says,
hij just getting Mike wany co Raha. Wannie co Raha
heard a bigfoot say that on a video A lady
caught sounds like the samurai chatter. Anyone seen this. I
have not seen that, but I have definitely heard some
samurai chatter. So thank you, Kent. You're awesome and I
appreciate you. And also I just saw this too, Colleen Gorman,

(17:17):
thank you so much for becoming a member of the
Hunt Club too. Thank you for your sport, and I
hope you enjoy those videos. I'll be putting some more
up soon, okay, and so thank y'all so much for
all the support. But no, can't. I have not seen
that video, but I will go looking for it. Send
me a link to it if you got it, okay,
and we'll check that out. Okay. Yeah. Have you have

(17:38):
you ever heard any samurai chatter, Mike.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I've heard of it. Yeah, I've heard so many different
kinds of weird vocals and things that sound like disembodied voices. Again,
it's just it's like more of the thing where I
try not to say what it is for sure, but
sometimes somethings sound more like voices than some kind of

(18:02):
foreign language or chatter. So sometimes I can say something's
a disembodied voice because you can hear something being said,
not always in the same language, like I was talking
to you about with EVPs and things that can come
through in foreign languages. But I've heard some, I mean,
there could have been some things I heard that could

(18:22):
be that seem to match what people say about samurai chatter.
You know, I would say it's not that common that
I've heard it though, but I believe there's been at
least a couple occasions where I've heard something that kind
of goes along with other people who've heard it to
match their match the same kind of sounds that they hear.

(18:44):
But there's so many things. It's just like, that's why
it's always so interesting for me, because you know, it's
like you never know what the heck's going to happen,
especially in certain areas where you go, you never know
what you're going to hear or what's going to happen.
And that was like, you know, what kind of happened
when we were just at the area claimed too, with

(19:05):
those mounds, some of the things that happened that are different.
We had even more different experiences this last time. So
it's like, you know, it's always interesting to hear those
things and to experience those things.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
It is. We have a question in the chat from Andrew.
He says, what the bleep is samurai chatter? I sometimes
forget not everybody knows exactly what I'm talking about, And
that's okay because I live in my own world sometimes
and samurai chatter, y'all for the audience. I'm so sorry
for not explaining this, y'all. Samurai chatter is it sounds

(19:38):
like japan archaic Japanese language that the Bigfoots communicate with sometimes.
And a perfect example is from the Sierra Sounds recordings
from ron moorhead Back. I think it was the nineteen seventies.
If I'm not mistaken, up in this Yerra Mountains in
northern California, I believe if you go look those up,

(19:59):
look up online, you look fine. On YouTube you can
hear them. Also, a CD comes with his book. It's
called Voices in the Wilderness if I'm not mistaken, and
you can get your own CD full of samurai chatter, y'all.
And it's really creepy. Put playing in your car at
night driving down a dark road. I highly recommend it.
It's fun. But anyways, yeah, so that's what samurai chatter is.

(20:22):
It's just one of the different dialects and languages that
it sounds like the Bigfoots are speaking.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So there you go, Andrew, I hope I answered your question.
But okay, Mike, you guys, Okay, so the last time
you came on the show, you talked about some of
this the same area that you guys had researched that
we're going to talk about some today. You guys were
in an area where there's some what we call Indian
burial mounds, right.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Right, Yeah, the area we were in, it's in northeast
Ohio here in Portage County. Back in like the nineteen twenties,
they had unearthed on accident when they're excavating one of
the mounds, and they were able to analyze the remains
in two of the tombs because they were rock tombs,
and they dated that to the three hundred BC the

(21:10):
six hundred a d range in the Hopo culture based
on how everything was buried. And this this area of
land sits on a big fresh water lake, so you know,
it makes sense that that would be an area where
you know, civilization or culture would probably thrive for everything

(21:33):
on the land. You know a lot of hunting, a
lot of fresh water. And they they went through an
ordeal where they made an exhibit out of this mound,
out of the remains for the two people. They had
some vandalism problems and they end up rebearing the bodies
and realized there was a mistake to do that, so

(21:53):
they see there's unrest there. I've been I've been exploring
and investigating this particular area where that mound is quite
a bit. But the department, I think it was a
group from the university at Kent State, wanted to verify
the remains were in the same location when they reburied them,

(22:15):
and this was like towards the late nineteen nineties, So
they reverified that the remains were still where they were
documented in the mound, and then they examined a lot
of the land looking for more mounds because they figured
there's probably more burials like that, because there probably was
a bigger group that lived around the area. And they

(22:36):
used some equipment and they found many areas across the
land where there were other burials, and in an area
we were at recently, we really noticed and were pretty
confident that we hit like a group of them. And
when we were in that area, particularly this just the
other day doing this video, that's where we heard what

(22:58):
sounded like a war cry sound that I heard that
was audible that I picked up, and some strange like
phantom sounds that I call them. They sound like just
knocks and slaps on the ground, and they were like
literally right next to us. And I think in the
clip from the video you saw, you can hear them.
It sounds like somebody slapping the ground right next to me.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, it does it. Actually, it sounded very what kind
of sounded like what bigfoots, what I would consider potential
bigfoot activity is out in the field that we have.
I was listening. Okay, So the video that he's referring
to to the audience that hasn't been released yet, y'all. Okay,
but you're gonna be releasing it here in the next
few days this week, right some Saturday, Saturday. Okay, so Saturday,

(23:43):
you guys can watch this on Saturday. But there was
a lot of trees by the way, it was snowing
out there. Gosh, it's been snowing up there. That's wild.
It just got cold here about three days ago, finally
down in Georgia, and I wish it would go away.
I don't know, it's fun. I'd like it being cool,
But we went from summer to winter. Where to fall go, y'all?

(24:04):
I don't know. But anyways, I missed my beautiful trees
in the fall. Okay, so, but anyways, lots of branches
and twigs snapping and things like that, but you had
a slap on the ground like stuff that I would
think that a bigfoot would do. But here we can
we can kind of circle back around to that poultry

(24:26):
guys activity as well and the Native American aspect there
of maybe their spirits on that land as well.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I could. I would say most likely
the area is key to the activity and the history
that was on the land, history of the you know,
the people that live there. I think that that might
be a stronger connection with the residual or even intelligent

(24:56):
spirit activity you know, is probably pretty high there. There
was that EVP I was talking about. You can hear
someone speaking in a native language that I picked up
when I was at the same I was actually at
the mound, the one mound that's verified that they had
the remains in, and that was one of the like

(25:16):
most clear and interesting EVPs I've ever caught, because you
can clearly hear a man speaking in a foreign and
a native language. But it was nobody was there. It
was just me and my friend, and it sounded like
he was relatively close to me, so I've already kind

(25:37):
of known that this area there's some kind of connection,
you know, some kind of spiritual connection and spirit activity
based on the previous culture there.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Oh my gosh, uh that is that is really interesting
and really cool. And so these mounds are not actually
i mean, are they designated as like where people like
they say, hey, these are mounds or do you assume
that those are mounds? Do you just know there's some
out there, but they don't actually tell you where they're at,

(26:07):
if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Well, the one, the one mound is acknowledged and you
know there the remains are still buried there. It is
open to the public for them for it's actually part
of the trail, so you can go. It's it's like
they've got like a gate around it. Well it's like
a wooden fence around it to highlight it and a

(26:30):
memorial rock that talks about the remains in the culture.
And but the the group that studied the area verified
that there were other mounds on the premises, but they've
never been identified to the public or marked off. So
the one what we found when we were roaming through there,

(26:52):
just from looking at them, they appear to be similar
especially the one appears to be very similar in size
and shape is the one that is verified. So yeah,
we kind of were going off of what it looked
like to us for the other what we called mounds.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Oh yeah, that is so cool. That is so cool.
My good friend William Knighthawk, who just came on the
show last week, he has I've had some conversations with him,
you know, he actually consulted with him at times. He
is a Lakota medicine man, and I've consulted with him
when I went to an investigation for this skinwalker cave
up in Tennessee. I didn't know how to protect myself

(27:30):
against those, to be quite honest with you exactly, and
so I sought his advice on that. But he is,
He's given me some pretty sound and solid advice, all
a lot of stuff, and he has told me before
he may be in the chat today. I don't know.
I haven't I haven't scrolled down too far today. But
he says that, you know, we get a lot of

(27:50):
cryptid reports around some of these burial mounds, these earthen mounds,
the burial mounds, he said, because that sacred land and
the land is he been cursed or blessed, depending upon
how you look at it. And basically, the bigfoots the
dog men have been put there, let's just say, put
there to protect that land at all costs. And so

(28:13):
you're going to have a lot of cryptid activity at
places like that. And I don't know, did you guys
get some big foot activity out there? I mean, I
know I heard some things that I think could be
big foot out there. But what did y'all get?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
What do you want? Well, I mean, all the audible
activity seems to be consistent with what people report with
big foot encounters. I mean, like all of it. You know,
all the knocking, all the ground noises, and you know,
Jack found some disturbances he was walking, he was tracking

(28:49):
that looked like they were footprints, but I don't think
they're really identifiable. But I mean, as far as the activity,
it seems to mirror those kinds of you know activity.
But again, like the slaps is an example. Like that
happened within a second and literally probably maybe three feet

(29:09):
next to me, nothing was there. It was just you
heard the sound, which you know I can I can
share that if you want to. Let everybody see that
and hear that oh.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Sure. While you're pulling that up, let me let me
read this comment from Colleen. Thank you Colling. She says,
I wonder if the war cry was a residual like
the Gettysburg Battle and other Civil War sites. That's a
great point.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's something like, you know, the
same kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah. We have a very international audience today too. Thank
you Craig for being here in the UK, and I
appreciate you being here. I love our audience. We have
the best, we have the best live chat on the internet.
I'm sorry, I'm so partial. It's ridiculous. All right, okay
you ready, yes, I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Well there, I just heard it back there, dude. Did
you just hear that behind right next to us? Right there?
Back there? Dude? Did you just hear that behind right
next to us? Right there? It sounded like somebody slapped
the ground. What the hell, dude?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
It did it twice?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
It went like pop pop.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It was like right there, sounded like it was right here,
literally like right there.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
That's extreme.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Next, I'm pretty sure I got that because that was audible.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Whoa, I don't Did that come out pretty loud? Were
you able to hear it? Loud enough it was.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, that was wonderful. That was actually pretty cool. And
you know that that voice that you guys heard too
is one of your ghost hunting pieces of equipment.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Right, Yeah, it's a nightc device is called transcend theory.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I have one of those myself. I don't have that
exact one, and I could not remember the name of it.
I was gonna say ghost box or something like that.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
But there's a lot of different kind.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Minus old school. I have like an old one, very
old one, and I think the batteries have kind of
rested in them or something because I haven't used them.
I actually gave one. I had two, and I gave
one away to my friend Pharah. I believe because I
haven't used them. The technology is way more up to
date these days than what I had. So but yeah,

(31:37):
but that's wonderful. So so what you do? Should I
take the screen down or do you want to show
something else?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
If you want to hear, I'll share one more thing.
Okay for now, let me go ahead and switch this.
I think I'm enough to close this one in prison
another one.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, Oh my gosh, I love that. Okay, So Mike,
I actually really love that, and you know, I kind
of felt like when I was watching your video earlier
and all your videos you do, you you have that
ICC device going pretty much the whole time, right right,
and so it's almost like you have help from the
other side during your investigations. No matter what you're investigating,

(32:16):
there's usually a voice on the other side giving you
no I don't say directions, but just kind of like
they're there to me. I felt like it was kind
of like a support.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, you know, I you know, it's been a few
years and I've been kind of my thought process and
kind of understanding of what seems to be happening has
been kind of shaped by devices specifically, like that transcend
theory because it's a it's it's a truly unique device
that is, you know, gives one undebunkable evidence of spirit

(32:53):
communication because that device I use doesn't use any words.
There's no phrases in this day base. It's just alphabetical
and numerical. And what happens is messages can get put
together because the machine does not make messages. The machine
just will once a message input starts, and letters get

(33:15):
put together. Whatever the spirits want to tell you or
I like I say, the energy wants to put through,
the machine will basically try to pronounce what's all jumbled
together with the letters, and that has shown real communications
coming through still, which shouldn't happen. That's why it's real evidence.

(33:35):
And you know, and I think the environment is covered
in a like a blanket of residual energy from people
from the past and experiences, things people have said, and
it's constant. It's always overlaid like on that higher dimensional plane,
and that device is like receiving this information and it's

(33:57):
mostly feels like it seems like it's residual, which is
what kind of made me think this way. So I'm
listening all the time. But sometimes it seems like the
information will find you because you're looking for something. You
want to know, you want your asking questions, you want
to know things. And sometimes I think, depending on if

(34:18):
your connection strong or the energy, the information that's there
will find you and you'll hear it come through. You'll
hear answers to what you want. And I think it's
even intelligent in a way, and that's what that is
why I run it all the time, because I like
to catch those moments when they happen.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I think it's brilliant. Actually, I think it's really the
way that you do it is really smart, and I
appreciate it. Colleen says, if we live in a in multiverses,
then the past is happening now. The vill may have
been then at that point, what was the degree, latitude
and longitude? Do you do you know, Mike or the

(34:59):
general city is northeast Ohio.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Right, yeah, I really don't. I don't use any like say,
any equipment that actually gives me a location that specific.
But that's something that's interesting. Now I'll keep that in mind,
calling because that probably wouldn't hurt if I run some

(35:22):
kind of a GPS with me from now on, so
I can actually log GPS points. That's I never actually
never thought of that because I'm more of kind of like,
I just try to document and record and interact, and
I don't think that, you know, my thinking process doesn't
always like you know, there's so many things I don't
I don't think of everything. But that's that's actually I'm

(35:44):
going to keep that in mind because I might start
keeping an app open with the GPS coordinates so I
can try to log that.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
That's a great idea and I was just talking about William.
He was probably in the chat the whole time, and
I was I was talking about you, William in a
good way. And he says, hello, Jessica. See do exceive everybody?
Remember what I said about burial mails, Jessica, curses are
on some from my kind. Yes, William, that's what we
were just I was just saying while ago, so thank
you so much for being here, William. I appreciate you. Okay,

(36:14):
let me pull the screen up there we go.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Okay, all right, there's a little bit of leaf crunching
on this because this was fall time again. This is
you're gonna see. This is from the other mound, the
one that is logged there, the one that they got
the remains from, from the burial mound. Oh, and I
recorded this EVP.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
We'll go back up and see what we missed.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
I like the toy.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
We'll go back up late again. We need to turn
it up.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I wow, I heard that.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yes, it sounds like hey, twotka, uh huh. And my
my mentor, Ramona she bear Claw, elder medicine woman. She
I gave her that clip long time ago, years ago,
and I asked her because she speaks nine different native languages,
and I asked her if she ever heard something like this,

(37:22):
if she could help me understand. And it's funny when
you talked about your friend, uh Lakota.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
William William, Yes, he's the man Lakota.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well, Ramona told me. Ramona's Blackfoot Mountain Indian Tribe elder.
She said that she believed that was Lakota maybe in
origin or some of it is Lakota. And she said
it sounds similar to what would mean like calling your granddaughter,

(37:57):
saying granddaughter they Toka maybe saying like calling or she
said it sounded like somebody calling their granddaughter in Lakota.
So that was kind of interesting. Maybe your friend might
even have some chat.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Well, if he's not still in the chat, well, I'll
ask him after the show. Yeah, but that was interesting.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, that was That was one of the I can't
think of too many others that I've ever picked up
that are an EVP phenomenon, like a recording playback EVP
phenomenon that I've caught that was pretty clear. There's been some,
but I've never picked up one that definitely sounded like
another language, and I believe that was So that was

(38:40):
very unique and one of a kind for me and
the evidence I've captured.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Oh that's wonderful, Colleen says. I was just asking and
this was about the latitude and longitude comment earlier. Because
Reindigenizing Minds has its ancient Chinook Global Mapping project which
shows things like spiritual lay lines. Oh okay, and wow,
that's really cool. Yeah, lay lines do play a role
in a lot of this, you know, a lot of

(39:07):
the activity that we have, even with the the you know,
cryptid activity I've been I was actually contacted a couple
of years ago by someone who's who became my friend. Okay,
but she contacted me before I knew who she was,
and she she was actually mapping out lay lines and
maybe some of the lay lines that weren't mapped out before,

(39:28):
you know what I mean. And and she was wondering
aroundabout area some of the places where I've we've had
some bigfoot activity and things like that because that is
where the lay lines are running. There A lot of
times they are on those lay lines, Okay, like the
centers of activity, I guess, the areas of high strangeness
and it I don't know if she was like wanting

(39:49):
to know if it lined up with her maps or what.
But uh, it was interesting and I think she might
have she might be a government contractor of some sort actually,
so so makes you wonder, makes you wonder if our
government's interested in that kind of stuff, right, hmmm, makes
you wonder. Okay, So that's really amazing. That's a wonderful

(40:12):
capture that you got on that EVP. You know, my
good friend Eric Testament who comes on the show sometimes.
He lives out in Missouri and he has about forty
acres of land out there, and he has a family
of bigfoots that live out there on his property, and
he has captured some Native American dialects. It sounds like
female voices speaking in different languages out there, and of course,

(40:36):
you know, my first thought was like, well, it must
be the bigfoots out there, But talking with you today, Mike,
I don't know. It maybe spirits or something else.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, So he's also had things walking on his house
and climbing the ladders up the side of his house too,
So definitely has some bigfoot activity out there. So it'd
be interesting to know, you know, if it is the bigfoots.
I mean, I don't know it's either bigfoots or spirits
out there.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
So consistency, that's that's like the reasons why, you know,
like the cameraman and myself, why we do you know
continually and often, you know, like every every other day
or more. We're always out and we're filming because we're
hoping to you know, for everything to align right and

(41:25):
actually capture more evidence to see if we can, you know,
see if we can figure out or at least get
closer to the cause of some of this strange activity
out there.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Well, I think part of the cause I'm going to
just go ahead and go out on a on a
limb here, is that those burial mounds being excavated. That
can't be good for the spiritual aspect of all this, right.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, And some of the remains, some of the remains
were stolen, some of the bone fragments and bone pieces
when they so it's been known to be you know,
for there to be unrest. There's been a lot of
reports of people, you know, experiencing things over at the mound,

(42:13):
seeing the woman there's the shaman. There's been reports of
people seeing her and and being chased off. There's been
a lot of strangeness reported over there, and they attribute
it to what happened once, you know, somebody made the
decision to try to make an exhibit out of the

(42:34):
remains and had vandalization.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Well, you know, there are occult groups and secret societies
and things like that that have been historically rumored, I'm
gonna say rumored to have taken body parts in skulls,
like let's say, like Geronimo School with the School and
Bones club, you know, to take the body parts and

(43:00):
skulls and bones for occult practices, and that's not it's
not very uncommon and Nighthawk high strangers, as William says,
my my cousin is what he heard it say, my cousin,
my nation, you say that my cousin, that's what he said?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Would that would that make a little more set you think?

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Right?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I think? I mean the fact that you know, the
information I got from a mona was like even though
my granddaughter similar, right, like a family member family. So
it sounds like that's probably what the that voice was,
and most likely it's probably something like a residual message,

(43:51):
something that was said from the past, you know, things
like that. That's where I keep I'm starting to put
something together. And that's what I'm starting to see from
what I've been hearing, is that there's a residual everybody.
You know, I think most people do paranormal thing, you
kind of know, residual things, something that's you would say,

(44:13):
not directly intelligently communicating with you, like a spirit. But
you're hearing conversations, people talking, sounds like things from the past.
And that's what I think is like is happening, you know,
That's what you're hearing, is these events and it seems
like they're just like always around, could be from anywhere.

(44:35):
And that's what I keep going back to, and I
keep listening, and I keep trying to see, you know,
looking for the ones that seem to be a little
bit stronger with the communication and more intelligent.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. William says elemental spirits and bigfoot
in other beings can be the same thing. So that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I was just thinking as you were saying that my
friend Barry came on, that he comes on the show
quite often, and uh, and we were talking about Civil
War ghosts last week and uh, in the battlefields and
Colleen had mentioned Gettysburg earlier and uh and I have
been to battlefields here in Georgia, like the Pickets Mill Battlefield.
I've told the story on the show before about how

(45:20):
I was leaving the park one night where on the
battlefield on a Halloween storytelling haunted Woods thing. I don't
even know what they called it, but it was some
kind of haunted woods thing where this lady was telling
stories and taking us on a tour where there were
a lot a lot of men and stuff that were
dressed up like the soldiers, like the ghosts like they

(45:41):
had been. There were zombie Civil War soldiers basically stuff.
But it was it was fun. It was like a
fun event. I took my son. It was actually for
bigger kids. My son was really small, but I come on,
I'm his mom, so you can. He was used to
it all the weird stuff out in the woods already.
But as we were leaving this thing late at night,
we were the last group to go, and we were

(46:03):
we started hearing the cannons firing on the battlefield and
the ground was shaking and everything like it was like
a vibrational blast and it happened at least three times
as we were leaving, and my son and I heard it,
but nobody else was responding to it at all. It
was the weirdest thing I've ever It was so weird,

(46:24):
And so we got in the car and I was like, well,
that's just weird. Why surely they're not firing cannons this
late at night out here, this is there's like neighborhoods
around here. And it turns out there were not firing cannons.
It was phantom cannon fire. And Barry came on the show.
We're talking about these residuals and stuff. He said that
he had he does like those what do you call them,

(46:46):
when you like hypnotize people and you get like the
spirits the attachments off of them and through hypnosis and stuff.
And so he's done some of those before where he's
like got somebody under hypnosis to try to get the
spirit attachments off of them or find out who the
attachments are. They're talking about their you know, Civil War
soldiers and that their brothers are still in the battlefield fighting,

(47:07):
Like according to them, some of these soldiers are out there.
It's not only like it's residual, but like they're still
living out like they're like they don't know they're dead,
they don't know the war's over over and over again.
And we had a little we had a short conversation
about that last week on the show. I thought, that's
kind of interesting because it's like where where, where's the

(47:28):
line drawn where? Like it's just residual, and like these
guys are like really they're still out there in a
constant battle all the time, like they died, they don't
know they're dead. You know, So I guess I guess
that would be residual.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Right, Well, I mean the lines are starting to get
blurred a little bit because I'm starting to think that
even things that seem residual are still there's still an
intelligent level to them that will respond to you and
almost answer you, like they are like they are more

(48:06):
than just a playback, like they're interactive with you, maybe
even though your name and say your name. And I'm
starting to think that that's you know, I'm doing, you know,
I keep doing more and more to try to see
if anything can actually help me with that way. But
I would say that that is that's something to consider,

(48:28):
is that even something residual can still seem to be
intelligent to a point where you know, it could identify
you and acknowledge you, but it might not be you know,
might not be the sole spirit that once was that person.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Oh yeah, Yeah, there's another case that I'm thinking about
about in North Carolina. There was a gentleman. This was
a couple of years ago, but it just made the
news recently. It was all over the internet, and I
covered it at least twice. I've covered it on my
show of a It was like a pell crawler incident
where this guy had called nine to one one to
report a man on the side of the road that

(49:06):
was covered in blood and uh, and he was passing
by a Revolutionary War battlefield where, by the way, the
Revolutionary War soldiers and the Civil War soldiers probably had
similar outfits on Okay, that probably wasn't that far apart,
like you know, one hundred years from so, right, But
he called nine one one, and there's this like call

(49:28):
that you can hear if you go on you know online.
I mean, it's all over the internet. But as he's
reporting this man whose head is bleeding, it obviously seemed
to be a soldier, like a residual haunt or something
on the side of the road, but he said it.
I mean it loo like a real person. And I
was saying some people were kind of theorizing he saw

(49:49):
this right before something jumped in the bed of his
truck and h and it scared him so bad he
started screaming, it's not human, it's not human. He slammed
on his accelerator, slanted on his brakes, and the thing
went top over the front of the hood of his
truck and landed in the road. And I think it
was a pell crawler, okay, And it got up and
it ran into the woods right there at that battlefield. However,

(50:12):
some people were theorizing that that soldier that he saw
to begin with was maybe it was there to warn him,
you know, like warn him about like I don't know,
or maybe it's just the area of high strange as
you know, you know, just as well as anybody. If
you're gonna have GHOT, you're probably gonna have cryptids out
there too, right, So, but it's an interesting case. So
I like to think that soldier was warning him, you know,

(50:34):
get out of here.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
So, you know, we were talking about how and it
reminded me too in that video that I just did
there about the portal and I did a flashback back
to the portal that we filmed at Cuyahogan Forest, and
upon watching that again, I totally forgot about that growl

(50:57):
that I heard. Oh I don't know if you heard that.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Was it in the portal video or the one you
sent me to?

Speaker 7 (51:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Well see there's like in the in the when we
were there filming when Jack first captured that portal on
the thermal, I was cleansing in that little, that little
like stream because things were getting a little crazy that
night and wanted to be safe. And I was doing
a little cleansing in the in the water, and when

(51:27):
I started to take off my boots to get in
my bare feet, I captured a growl and I forgot
about it. And it's like, and I have to let
you hear it if you want to hear it, because
it was.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Do you have it now?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, yeah, I could share it with you.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Let's hear the growl it was.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
It was wicked, and I forgot all about it. I
was like, oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
You know, I really can appreciate you saying that you
were going you needed to cleanse, Like it's not just
like getting your body clean. It's like getting your aura
clean and your energy and and everything. And I think
that's important.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Right, And like you know, always always vocalizing your intent,
always vocalizing your your firmness to make sure nothing can
harm you. And like Ramona always told me too, She's
the one that told me about the water the stream,
you know. And and I was just like, well, that's
the only time I've ever done it was then, but

(52:26):
I I was just it was one of those nights
where we had I had some weird blob thing fall
out of me through the thermal before the portal. We
had had lights coming and going shooting through me. Jack
kept seeing him like flying through me, and he's freaking out.
Jack pursed more than I've ever heard him before on camera.
It was the heck of a night.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Oh my gosh, that sounds exciting. Henry has an interesting comment.
Let me read this. He says they used they used
the gravel from an Oneida site near Nichols, New York,
for to fulfill to construct a highway. My granddad took
me there while they were digging the burials before they
were destroyed. I was four. Oh my gosh. So they

(53:09):
used the gravel, probably from a burial mound. I'm assuming, uh,
to build the highway that is never good. Okay, imagine
a cursed highway. Okay, there's ever cursed highway. I would
assume that's it.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
So you know, I was watching something the other day,
like there's some kind of sight. I think it may
be in North Georgia. Maybe there's a sight of where
a woman died and everybody goes and puts stones on
her grave and they've put it in like a roundabout.
I know somebody in the chat will know what I'm
talking about, because I don't know what I'm talking about.
But it was somebody's some a woman's grave and I

(53:45):
don't know if she took her own life or she
died tragically. Okay, I don't know the whole story behind it,
but people go and put stones and so it's just
it's like roundabout with a grave in the middle of it,
and it's just this big hill, like a big stack
of all these stones, gravel, pebbles and uh. And if
you if you touch one of them, you take it,
you're it'll curse you, Okay, but you can leave something there,

(54:08):
but just don't take anything, all right. So uh, let's see, Oh, Is.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
This the brow? Yeah, this is the growl plus the
clip from the portal from that night. I kind of
went into this flashback because during the video I got
a message that said portal through the transcend theory. So
I started talking about this event and then I did
a flashback and you hear what I'm talking about. You
could see the uh the freak out.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
Help cleanse you or to make sure that if there
is anything that is negative that might be with me.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
This right here, this box with the thermal view. This
is Jack. He had his thermal camera going and me,
I'm about to cleanse. This is from the actual video
when we captured this, because this was his point of
view in his thermal and then this was my camera
set up because I'm about to get in the water
here and cleanse. So that's kind of the setup for
what's happening right now. And that's what I'm talking about.

(55:10):
And then this is what Jack is seeing. It's kind
of sync together the best I could based on when
he was talking and everything, so I kind of SYNCD
it together to go hand in hand. That's what he sees,
and then this is what my camera sees. Isn't about
to cleanse right now.

Speaker 6 (55:26):
It's just a way to make sure it leaves.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
It leaves me.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Now.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
I'm not saying it's negative, and I don't get any
feelings that it is, but I'm gonna do it just
because it's been pretty intense and just take an extra precaution.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Here comes the ground.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Did you hear that?

Speaker 8 (55:53):
There's like a whole dude right here?

Speaker 6 (55:57):
Jack, Yeah, I just heard like a a growl, like a.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Tee.

Speaker 8 (56:07):
There was a portal above you. There was a portal
and it shut off this empty Look, there was a
portal in the trees. Dude, What did shut it? A
black hole went shrill above you went down. I was
looking at it and pointing at it because I thought
maybe it was the moon or something. Oh my god, dude,

(56:30):
it went and shut up my fucking thing. Why I
Oh my god, I had a recording, dude, it was
a portal.

Speaker 7 (56:39):
Guys, girls, listen, listen, listen to me. I swear to you.
I swear to you if I have the footage. I
just got a portal in the trees and.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
I pointed up at it because I thought it was
just something right above here. Okay, and it went real big.
I had pointed at it empty was under it. Okay, whoa.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I can appreciate how you you cut out all the cusswords.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, well, I appreciate that. You guys know Jack, I
honestly I think there may be one time he may
have ever slipped and said his curse word. But that
night with the portal, it was just like Philter was gone.
He was he couldn't believe that what he's seen. And
I didn't know what he's seen because I'm cleansing and
he's telling me. I'm just kind of like, okay, I

(57:39):
got to see what he's talking about, but I had
no idea. And then when he showed that, because I
didn't realize how crazy it really was. And then when
I seen it, I was like, whoa. I was like,
that's nuts. It went over a thousand degrees in that
hotspot when it was its full size.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
Whoa.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
But that growl was pretty gnarly. I forgot all about that.
I don't know if you heard that that I heard it. Yeah,
that was pretty wicked.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
It was right when you started walking towards the creek.
It was almost like it sounded to me like it
came from where that bridge is right there. Whatever that
structure is to the side. It sounded like it came
from there, but I don't know because I wasn't there,
but it did. It came from the backs, like from
behind you.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
I was about to get in and cleanse in the water.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Oh, it didn't want you to cleanse.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Well, you know, I'm not going to jump the gun
on that, but that seems a little strange.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Yeah, oh man, that's wild and so and then Jack
was freaking out. He was like, oh my god, like
he was filming that. I mean, the portal was happening
simultaneously as the ground happened, and you're cleansing, and is
this when the lights were coming off of YouTube and
his camera that.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Was going on throughout the night. Okay, that when that
happened with the portal in that that was probably like
we had we had gone a little over halfway through
our filming that night when that happened, and so it
happened towards the midway point of it, and leading up
to that was when the Jack kept seeing these like

(59:08):
he was in his camera view. You know, these things
are all like his videos are there from those nights
as well. You can always see his point of view,
but from his point of view, because he actually stopped
the camera like three times, and I've never seen him
do that. That night, he kept stopping the camera and
he was freaking out and he's like, man, he's like
another orb just shot like right through you. And I'm
like freaking out too. I'm like all right, I'm like,

(59:29):
you know, and then he's watching me the whole time,
and I was laughing because I'm like, man, are you're
freaking me out? He's like, I'm just just watching you
right now. He's like and calling out stuff that he
keeps seeing, and I'm like, okay, another one. This is great,
you know, another light one flying through me. But yeah,
it was like a lot of weird stuff. That's why
I cleansed, and I've never done that before. That was
the first time, you know, I usually do. You know,

(59:51):
I keep my my medicine bag. I always keep that
with me that Ramona gave me, and I always I
always offer tributes of tobacco oh and always vocalize my intent.
And you know, I've been pretty well, you know, I've
been pretty safe for the most part from I think
any kind of negative things. So the cleansing was something

(01:00:14):
that this first time I've ever done it, but I remembered,
you know, about what Ramona told me when to do it.
So I took off my boots and we had my
bare feet in that little you know, and the whole
thing is in the video too. You could see the
whole I left it all in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
There, Robin and the chat hey, Robin. She said that
growl that noise could have been the portal opening, she said,
And I think that's that's kind of interesting too, or
it could have been something growling that was in that portal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Yeah, I think from when I pieced together the time
from when his camera shut off and when he called
it out, because that thermal camera that was actually like
that was my thermal camera originally and I sold it
to Jack and he started using it, so I know
there's no audio with it. So I had to like

(01:01:07):
put that in the timeline because that's what I was
trying to do to when it seemed to match up,
and I went off of when he said it shut
it off, right, because that was when it ended, was
when it shut off, So I kind of put it there.
So if that's right, I think he started seeing it
before the ground, but it still could have been maybe
from that, or it could have been something maybe around

(01:01:29):
because I was about the cleanse or who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Well, we have some observant audience members today and Will says,
did anyone see the mist or something? When he stood
up talking about the portal? So apparently there was some mist.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I have to go back and watch. And also, Susan,
this is one of my teammates, by the way, what's up, Susan,
Thank you for being here, she says, what is the
black on the right side of the screen, So there's
something black as well? Who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Yeah, I know, I know. And filming at night with
lights dark areas are pretty pretty bad sometimes with making
that moving shadow and a lot of times that it
freaks people out. So I'm not sure if it was that,
because that can sometimes make things look weird and shaky
and shadowy. It was kind of cold, so I know

(01:02:20):
you could see my breath and stuff there, But I'll,
you know, I'll take another look and see if there
was something else there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
It wasn't too cold to go cleanse yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Actually it felt really good, Yeah, it did. It felt
really refreshing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Have you ever taken a home with you Mike like
spirit wise, have you ever had anything show up in
your house?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Well, anything that I felt like was bad, I'd say.
I think there was one one time, one time where
I had I was filming my sixth Cemeteries Six Days
and six Nights series were I was trying to, uh, yeah,
that was That was my little clickbait thumbnail title for it.

(01:03:07):
But it had a nice ring to it. You know,
nothing demonic about it that you know, not intentional anyways.
But I was doing a little research into EVPs and
cemeteries because I was curious to the place of rest
if there's some kind of connection with picking up more
activity like EVPs. So I did that on my last

(01:03:30):
night at a cemetery. That cemetery, I got done filming
that night, and when I went to bed, I had
some crazy vivid dream and something was going on. And
as I remember in my dream, there was some kind
of a face. It looked like a shield more than

(01:03:51):
a face, but it definitely was like recognizable as a face.
And I was saying out loud and in my dream,
get out of me, Get out of me. I kept
saying it, but I was getting more intense and kind
of more angry about it. Because it started like being
conscious of something that was bad, and I was just like,
get out of me. And as I was saying it,

(01:04:11):
I can see it and started getting further away from
me and further away from me. So then I kept
saying it because I felt like it was leaving. And
I woke up and I was saying it when I
as I was waking up, and I realized I'd been
saying that in my sleep. And I think that was
something that was more than just a dream. I think

(01:04:32):
there may have been something that was something with me
that wasn't very good and it was a pretty negative feeling.
Now I think there might be protectors or guardians that
are with you, and I think that takes the place
that could I consider that some form of an attachment,

(01:04:55):
maybe a spirit of somebody, or maybe more than that.
And I think, and I'm pretty sure there's been more people,
more than one person that's told me that that I
there is someone that's with me. But it's never been
anything that I've ever worried about. But I started getting
recognition from them being with me from time to time

(01:05:18):
through strange evp anomalies that came up when I talked
about that person to them acknowledging they're there by saying
their name. So I think that I think people have that.
Maybe not necessarily everybody, but I think most people probably do.
And you probably don't know it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Oh my gosh, you don't. One thing that really freaks
me out are watching those videos or people who drive Tesla's.
Have you seen this where they drive the Tesla's and
they are like, yes, they have the bodies walking around
their cars in the middle of the woods and cemeteries. Godly,
what is that called kinetic? Some kind of kinetic light
ar I guess, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
They iPhones from the iPhone fifteen up. They have light
our actually the technologies in the phone and you can
use you can use the there's a couple apps that
work like an SLS camera that we'll use the light
R on the iPhones and actually give you like that
kind of a view like you're talking about like the teslas. Yeah,

(01:06:21):
and that's really cool. I'd rather not know to get
it and use it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
I you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
We actually so we were we had the the kinetic
app at that Skinwalker Cave up in Tennessee, and we
were getting so much weird energy out of that cave
that we were investigating. We set up my rimpod. I
have a rimpod. Okay, I used to have a rimpod.
I gave it to my friend that lived there that
cave because she needed it more than I did. But

(01:06:48):
h but we had that. We had a camera set up,
and we had that kinetic lighter app some kind of
a you can get it on your phone. I mean,
anybody can put it on your phone. Do I recommend
everybody do it?

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Okay, you might regret it, y'all. Okay, especially if you're
in your house. All right, just don't don't do it.
I don't recommend it. But we had that camera set
up at that cave entrance and we were sitting right
outside the cave. We had a fire going. We'd done
a campfire and had our chair setting out. We were
camped out down the way from it. But we were

(01:07:18):
sitting there watching the camera, and all of a sudden,
this giant stick figure like it had horns on its
head came crawling out of the side of this cave
with two little ones, like two little children or two
little little stick figures, and they were they were climbing together.
We have this all on video and and to one

(01:07:40):
of the little stick figures started doing twirls around the
antenna on my rimpod and stuff. But it was really
odd because it was a giant we were thinking, you know.
That made me start thinking, well, can bigfoot be ghosts?

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Or is it is it some kind of a spirit
or is it just another dimension and we're just we're
right here, but we're not. It's like it but it's
like ghost kind of you know what I mean. But
this thing, well he had horns, it literally had it
was like a stick figure with like horns on its head.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Yeah. I think, you know, I think the higher dimensional
overlay is real, and I think the residual realm you
could say, is a higher dimensional realm that overlays us
and and up, you know, and and that's I think
our technologies catching or certain technology is actually able to

(01:08:33):
interact with certain frequencies and things that are like shadows
of that right of that higher dimension, and we're seeing
it and we're hearing it. And that's why you know,
these phenomenons happen because we're like in the shadow of
the higher dimension.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Oh well, you did that that haunted house investigation on
Halloween and that is when they say the vill is
the thinnest. Do you think that helped with your investigation?

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I think, I mean, I think there's something like maybe
cycles of energy and lunar you know, lunar cycles or
the cycle around the sun, so it could be, you know,
and but then it's so weird because there's some of
the strangest and most active things happen when it just
like it maybe doesn't. We're not aware of what is

(01:09:28):
significant about it. But I for me to say Halloween
was any more active, I would probably say I haven't
really experienced anything more on Halloween than you know, some
of the more random days seem to have had some
you know, the most crazy things happen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
I feel I feel that Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
I think Mike was asking l I b was asking
about the what we talked about before with the eyes
in the tree.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yes, kind of don't read this for the audience, asked Mike,
this is Long Island big Foot. Mike says to ask
uh Mt Mike about the thing he saw in the
tree tops when he was here. It's all on video,
but for those who haven't seen who haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Yeah, I did a three video, A three video kind
of sequence of our visit to Long Island with LB
and it was the first video from that that adventure
to three days we were there and there was something
in the tree. The eyes got picked up with the
red light, which is one of the things I use
a lot as a red light for many reasons. But

(01:10:29):
and we saw it. We saw the eyes in the
tree and they were vertical, like they were reflecting like eyes.
We were pretty sure their eyes, but they were vertical,
and we were kind of wondering, like, what the heck
is that? And it seemed to move, like open and
close or move, And then there's times where we could

(01:10:51):
see the eyes and it definitely had moved another location,
So whatever it was was moving, so it kind of
debunked that. We thought maybe something was reflecting in the tree,
you know, something giving off a reflection that might look
like eyes. Something was watching us and it was moving,
and I thought the only thing that would make sense
is maybe an owl, because it the whole time it

(01:11:12):
was it was it was vertical, right, the whole entire time,
the eyes were vertical. Yeah, it was strange. But we
got closer to the tree, put lights on it, white lights,
and we could see the eyes with like no with
the red light, and we could see where it was at,
but there was nothing there. We couldn't see a thing there.

(01:11:34):
Every angle we got at white light right where that
spot was, we couldn't see anything. It was like it
was invisible, like there was nothing there. And then you
turn the red light on and you could see it
again in the same spot with the eyes. And then
you put the white light on and you could see
the branches and the sticks and there was nothing there.
It was so strange.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Oh my god, that is so that's weird, so weird.
I wonder what that was exactly. Beth. Beth is asking
anyone ever sleep with them by your bed, that EVP thing.
I don't know. I don't recommend anybody do that kind
of stuff in your house. I'm just saying, y'all do
what you want, but I'm saying, probably don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I disconnect. I disconnect and then I say goodbye, disconnect
on Interact and when I get home, especially you know,
i'd shut off. I keep it out, keep I keep
myself disconnected unless I'm trying to connect.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Talk about portals, I mean that would think that would
kind of open up a portal in your home for
anything to walk through and to come talk to you
and all that, and you really don't want that. Okay,
some of y'all might, but I don't. Okay, I don't
at all. I have Okay, I have have another question
for you today. What do you think about those Northern lights?

(01:12:51):
Did you guys, did you get to go see the
Northern lights last night?

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
I didn't get to see him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
I didn't either. I didn't either. But I've seen the
people in the chat talking about the Northern lights today,
and uh, here here's my thing about these lights. I mean,
there have been the most beautiful, brilliant pictures of these
pink and green lights, but I hate you know what
this is? This I'm gonna show. This is the map
for tonight, y'all in case anybody wants to to go

(01:13:17):
out and look at the Northern lights. We should be
able to see them in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I am in that green section right there, and Mike,
you're in the purple section. You should be able to
see in Proiky good tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
We'll have to check these out tonight. But some of
the some of what I was kind of reading about
today was that it's not some kind of natural eventics
is harp? Okay, what I heard is harp, you know,
like weather manipulation and things like that. I don't know.
Maybe and maybe they're turning that kind of I don't

(01:13:50):
know what it is. I have no I am not
a meteorologist. Okay, but uh but I just watched patterns
like William Nighthawk. We were talking last week about how
we've got to watch for pattern and stuff. And I
think it's great, though, But is it natural? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
What do you think? Do you think it's natural?

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Mike, Well, I'm going to get out. I think I
think I've found my reason to get out tonight. Oh yeah,
we're filming and see if there's anything anything strange that
goes on. See anything going on, any weird activity or energy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Oh gosh. Henry says that it's three eye Atlas. Probably
is it three eye Outlas? Is it coming into our
atmosphere'll I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
I try not to even acknowledge that. I'm like, if
it's something happens and it's gonna happen, I like people
talk about and I just like sit there and go
blah blah blah blah blah. I'm like, I guess we'll
see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
I didn't even know they were going on until I
started getting some messages from one of my big Foot groups.
We all have a group chat, and Susan's in that, okay,
but we some of the guys were sending us pictures
from like Tennessee and up in North Georgia and stuff.
So I got to see it through them. We live
vicariously through each other. Okay, But but long Alan biffoot

(01:15:08):
Mike says, youse psionics to view it. Yeah, that's a
good way to go out and watch them. I wonder
what the cryptis think about that, Okay, about those strange
lights in the sky, and I wonder if it has
any any kind of if it makes me different, uh,
for for the cryptids and the paranormal activity out there
when we have stuff like the Northern lights going on.
I don't know, what do you think, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Well, I mean, if if there's something to it, if
it affects like the energy like lay lines even like
we're talking about, if it's like some kind of a
natural like environment energy booster. You know, maybe, uh, everybody's
going to be happy and all the all the you know,

(01:15:51):
cryptis or spirits, everything that's affected by the energy, maybe
it'll be you know, juiced up and there'll be a
lot of stuff going on. Oh yeah, capture a lot
of voices.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Ooh. We like the excitement of it for sure. And
Leah says, we got hit by an X class flare
and they are upgrading our DNA according to news on
the Psychic Street. I like news from the psychic street, Leah,
thank you. So yeah, so we get we get the
information from every angle here in the chat and stuff,
and I love that too. And if that is the case,
and there are these X class solar flares and things

(01:16:26):
that are coming through and it is upgrading people people's
DNAs and their psychic abilities that would affect the cryptid
suit affect everybody, So that's good. It'd be a good
time to go out and communicate telepathically with a big
foot then, and uh, and that's what my team likes
to do. Okay, So we all have our different angles, Okay, Mike,
my team, we'd like to go out and try to

(01:16:46):
communicate with some of these creatures out there, but I
don't know this is This has been another fantastic show.
This has been a lot of fun. Yeah, thank you
for coming today and hanging out with me and sharing
your stigation and information with us today.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yeah, you're gonna have to talk to me sometime about
remote viewing. I'm really interested in a lot about that too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Oh yeah, well, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
I love remote viewing. That's why I have a whole team.
Susan who's in the chat, is trained as well. We
trained together over a course of many years, many years
in different modes of remote viewing. And I think that
that's I want to say, it's a future of research
when it comes to I mean, it's for us. It's
that we've been doing it for a long time. But

(01:17:33):
I think that if we had more, first of all,
psychic humans, psychically switched on, because we're all psychic, but
psychically switched on humans, this would be a much, much
different world that we live in. And so if I
can do my little part to throw a pebble in
the pond and put ripples out, then I'm doing it
talking about it. As a matter of fact, I have

(01:17:54):
a show tomorrow night Mike remote viewing. Yes, I have
a target. I don't know what the target is yet.
It has not been I have not been told what
the target is. But I have my friend archiem Rock
coming on the show tomorrow night at eight pm Eastern.
You guys come back and see me on Thursday night,
Tomorrow night at eight pm Eastern. And I do a
show every Thursday with my remote viewing targets. Yeah, so yeah,

(01:18:16):
I think I think it's a good tool in your
tool belt, Mike, if you ever wanted to learn remote viewing.
I think it helps out in the field for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Oh, I'll pick it your thoughts and now I'll think
about that. Couldn't hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
It doesn't hurt. Listen. If anything, it gets you more
in tune with the environment, when you're more psychically switched
on with you know, the animals. It's not just Bigfoot,
it's all the animals, all the energetics out there. It
makes the world, It makes the whole world a difference.
It does so, Oh my gosh, Mike, can you tell
everybody where where they can find you? Anything you want

(01:18:51):
to promote today, anything you got, go for.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
It, all right. Empty Aernormal Life on YouTube that's where
I post all my videos. I do have some Instagram following.
I post some shorts there. And if you want to
join the Facebook group, you can go to Empty Paranormal
Life on Facebook and just request to join and most

(01:19:16):
likely it'll get approved.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Most likely, yeah, most likely if you're if you're, if
you're a good boy and google. Okay, spam, you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Know, there's some spam. A small percent of spam comes through,
but that's why I just review them first. But so
long as you're not spam.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Not spam, don't be spam, y'all, go go join, okay,
And I just put YouTube on here on the banner.
But but it's Instagram and Facebook and YouTube as well.
And I can't wait to see well, I've already seen it, okay,
but I can't wait for your your video to come
out on Saturday. Restless Souls?

Speaker 6 (01:19:52):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
It is that what you call it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Season Season of Restless Souls.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Season of Restless Souls. Y'all be on the lookout for
that over on Empty Paranormal Life on you to please
go subscribe, y'all, right, now, go do it, okay, and
uh and we have been my wonderful moderators. I have
the best moderators. They've been putting your your links in
the in the chat today, so making it easy for everybody. Yeah, so, Mike,
thank you so much for joining me. Please come back

(01:20:17):
and hang out with me again. This was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Do it again?

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Do you enjoy You enjoyed the live show as much
as I did.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Oh yeah, It's been a while since I've done a
podcast live on my YouTube channel, but I always enjoyed,
enjoyed chat, enjoyed talking wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Well, I enjoyed it too. I enjoyed it very much,
and thank you. See Duke show content is for entertainment
purposes only. Yes, yes, it is for entertainment purposes only, y'all. Okay,
it's never a complete show without us saying that at
least once. And uh but yeah, this was great information,
thinking outside the box and I learned something as I
always do. Mike, thank you so much, and uh, you guys,

(01:20:56):
please come back and see me tomorrow night, eight pm Eastern.
I will be here with our and he has a
friend that's coming on. I don't know. It might be
a show about time travelers. I'm not exactly sure what's
going on tomorrow, but we're gonna find out. I will
be posting that show either tonight or in the morning,
and so please come back and see me then. And
then of course we do have on the Hunt this
Saturday night as well, So y'all, please stay safe out there,

(01:21:18):
and please be safe and keep your head on a swivel,
but don't live in fear, all right, And I will
see you guys on the next show, all right. Mike,
you stay safe out there too, okay, and we'll see
you next time.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
All right, y'all, it's exces. It's it's.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
So, it's

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
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