11/12/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Jason Quintrell, Bryan Poore, Ben Salango

Dave talks with Jason Quintrell from the Union Mission, WV State Basketball Coach Bryan Poore and Kanawha County Commission President Ben Salango.

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a little bit later on Plus, West Virginia State basketball
coach Brian por Is going to stop by. We've told
you in the past about Earl Lloyd, first African American
player in the NBA. Graduate of West Virginia State University
coach Porr and others at State have really put a
started effort into remembering the legacy of Earl Lloyd. Now

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they're doing an EARL Lloyd Classic basketball shootout. It's happening
this Friday and Saturday. We're going to talk about that,
and uh, we'll get into some other things too, Big
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you mission Jason Quintrell, Good morning, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Good morning, Dave, thanks for having.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Me, Thank you for being I gotta ask you how
you feeling, man, because I know we were texting back
and forth yesterday. You've been a little under the weather.
That's why you're not gracing us with your presence in
studio today. How are you feeling.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I'm getting better. I'm getting better. The fever and body
aches are slowing down a little bit. So yeah, I'm
feeling a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
And COVID is still a thing. People forget about it
that they thought it was. It's gone the way of
some of these other diseases, which sadly enough, some of
them are coming back now. But that's another story for
another time. But you text me and you said you
had COVID. I was like, man, who gets COVID anymore?
But apparently a lot of people do, and you got it.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I did. I test a positive Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
All right. But you're doing better now, right, Yeah, doing
much better?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
All right?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
All right?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
So what's explain to us? And I know we've got
a few things we want to talk about, Jason, want
to try to you know, not to not tax your
voice too much, but let's talk about what the last
couple of weeks have been like for Union Mission, you know,
with the with the government to shut down. And of
course you guys already do a fantastic job of providing
various needs for people here in the Kanal Valley and

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all over, but what's the last couple of weeks been
like for you guys?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Very chaotic? Actually. Through our Family Service Department, we serve
about twelve families a day. We provide about two weeks
of food for those twelve families. About a week into
the shutdown, we ramped up to fifteen different families, and
then less than a week we ramped up to eighteen
eighteen families a day. We were week so that equates

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to a little over one thousand people a month we're
trying to feed. It's been pretty pretty chaotic. We're about
booked about two weeks out. But in emergency situations, we
are getting people in immediately.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Talk about the services that you provide. When you say
you take care of these families, what all are we
talking about here.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Jason, Yeah, so our Family Service Department TAL we take
care of house fires. We help people in situations that
are there, they're out of job and they need food.
We will provide food for them immediately. If they've had
a house fire, we put them up into hotels, provided
food cards so they can eat at restaurants. We try

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to provide really really good, solid, nourishing food for them.
And so a combinment of things that we try to
do to help people that are in need.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
And that's kind of where what the last couple of
weeks have been like. And of course the government shut
down all appearances, looks like it's going to come to
an end with a house vote. I think it's a
four o'clock or so this afternoon, So, but it's still
going to take a little while to recover from all that, right.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, most definitely we're prepared for that, all right.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, you guys, as I said, always do a fantastic job.
That's why we're glad to partner with you on certain things.
All right. So now, as if this time of year
with a shutdown and everything, you know, that didn't make
it chaotic enough, this is your I mean, all twelve
months are your busy time, but this is your really
busy time as we head into Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, we are one of our biggest events of the
year's Stick Bash that's Thanksgiving morning. We were in heavy
planning mode for that. We've got about six hundred runners
that are signed up already for that, and pretty excited
for our Drumstack Dash. And we got Christmas. We're providing
Christmas Christmas for Fallster kids this year all over the

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state of West Virginia. Really pumped for that. So we
got a lot going on. It's a terrible time to
get sick, but we have a lot going on and
pretty excited about that.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Your co workers would say that Quinchrell do anything to
try to get out of work.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know, I've heard that three times this week.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
I know you, man, and I'll tell you when we
do these events on our parking lot here that we
do uh with the in partnership with you guys. You're
you're the first one here in the last one out
and no matter how cold it is, how hot it is,
you're always right out there with us. So that's just
a little jab between buddies right there, because it's nothing
really could be further from the truth. I want to
go back to the to the drumstick dash. How many

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years have you guys been doing that? Fourteen fourteen years?
And where? And we'll have you on before then to
talk about it. But where where does the route run
for this for the drumstick dash?

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Head ad riverfront there and then it turns around at
the Capitol and then comes back. It's through.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's a five k okay. Now, when people want to
sign up, what do they do? Just go to your
website or what.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeahs is to go to we feedpeople dot com. You
can sign up right through there, or you can go
to the ap timing website and sign up through through
that as well.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Talking to Jason quinch Al of Union Mischief a Dave
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the podcast menu. And of course, you know you guys
during the holiday season, I mean, you really really ramp

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it up. We talked about the drumstick dash, but there's
so many things that you do every Christmas.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Talk.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Let's talk about a few of them.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
In the past few years, well actually for probably the
last twenty years, have done Christmas for kids in the
local area here, and we are we're not stopping that,
We're just going with a different direction. We were We've
partnered with an organization that has provided toys for kids

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across the state, all counties through their foster programs, and
so we've gotten involved with that this year and cleared
out our whole second floor of our warehouse to start
storing toys and getting ready to get those out. So
min it's it's just a cool situation to be able
to help coster kids that may or may not have

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Christmas this year and we're able to help provide that.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I want to talk about volunteer opportunities because you guys
have a full staff out there, but you're always needing
people just to come out to help on various things
like you know, just all the activities that you do.
Let's talk to civic organizations, let's talk to businesses. Let's
just talk about your volunteer EF efforts to get more volunteers.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I should say, if you're interested in volunteer and please
get a hold of Joyce Davis. You can do that
through our website or a phone call at three zero
four nine to five zero three six hold of Joyce
Davis Volunteer Coordinator. You can get involved in so many
different ways. We have people that come in that that
put holiday boxes together in our warehouse. We have people

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come in that will they've we've had volunteers coming in
and helping with our family Service coordinators to help with
all the calls that we've had come in over the
last few weeks. There are multiple ways you can volunteer.
We have organizations that come here almost monthly to help
around the grounds and helpless situations at our thrift store

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to help all kinds of different areas. So we have
we have multiple areas to serve from from men's shelter
to recovery toffer way, many different areas you can get involved.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Indeed, Jason, I'm gonna let you go arrest that voice
right now.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
All right.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I expect that when we have you on here in
a couple of weeks to talk about the drumstick Dash,
that you're gonna you're gonna be all rested up and
ready to go.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Right.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, man, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
All right, we'll talk soon. Thanks a lot, Jason Goodrell
Union Mission, Thanks a lot, buddy. All right, coming up
a little bit later on cannan kind of commissioner and
President of the Commission, Brin Silango is going to join this.
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Virginia State to the basketball coach Brian Poor. Welcome to
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Speaker 5 (13:31):
How are you, Dave? I'm doing great. Thank you for
having me all.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Right, thank you for being here. Man. You've even you
got the Earl Lloyd's shirt and everything. Oh man, you're
all all about this thing. But and you've been on
the show a few times in the past.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Coach.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
But for those that don't know, tell us the story
of Earl Lloyd.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Well October thirty first, nineteen fifty uh. He was the
first African American to step floor step foot on an
NBA basketball floor during a game. You obviously graduated from
West Virginia State. He was at West Virginia State from
nineteen forty six to nineteen fifty, So a lot of
people know that part of the story, but not as

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many know the rest of the story. I mean, he
team folded about nine games into it. He was playing
for the Washington Capitals and they folded. So then he
got drafted into the Army. He always told me I
was the only guy got drafted twice in the same year,
and so.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
One good, one bad exactly, well, not bad, but won
a little bit more difficult than him.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
How's that correct. So he spent a year and a half,
two years in the Army. Then when he comes out,
the Syracuse Nationals pick him up. Syracuse Nationals are now
the Philadelphia seventy six ers as they moved the franchise.
But in nineteen fifty five, he and a guy by
the name of Jim Tucker become the first two black
players to win NBA Championship. And then he went on
to finish his career with the Detroit Pistons, becomes the

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first black assistant coach in the NBA, and then they
fired the head coach and he becomes the first black
old time bench head coach in the NBA that was black. Now,
the year before that, Bill Russell was a player slash coach,
So he was coaching, but he was still playing, right,
wouldn't everybody like to do that? Yeah, be a player
and coach your team. I'm taking every shot.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
But that's that's you know, Earl's earls. You know, he's
there first, and so many things and in in in
the NBA. He also went on to be one of
the first black executives with Chriser Corporation. I mean, so
this guy was a phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
He was talking about a trailblazer. I mean, most people
are lucky if they get one or two remarkable things
in their life. That's lay from from you know, the
NBA and what he did at State and then the
different teams is with and coach and general manager, and
then to totally pivot and become a business executive.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Absolutely, and then he worked under Dave BEng when Dave
bing was the mayor of Detroit as well, so he
was kind of the liaison between the police and the
black community in Detroit and with the education. So I mean,
this guy, if you really look at him, I mean,
and the thing that was even better than all that,
you know, I can say all that and how great

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all that is is. I got a chance to meet
him in two thousand and four when we retired his
jersey and then became very close friends. Spent a lot
of time together in a lot of different events over
ten years, and he was just a special human being,
more so than just being a pioneer. I mean, he
was just he was He was a diamond, and I
was thankful enough that I got to spend a lot

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of time with him.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Talk about that time you spent with him. That had
many cases I have nothing to do with basketball and
the friendship that you guys forged.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Absolutely. You know, he had a stroke a few years
before he passed away, and so that kind of scared
me a little bit. And I called Charleed and I said, hey,
you as soon as he gets back on his feet,
I need to come down there and spend some time
with him.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
And where was this was it?

Speaker 5 (16:47):
That was in Crossfield, Tennessee. And that's where he ended
up retiring from Alexander Virginia, went to West Virginia State,
finished his career in Detroit, and ended up in Crossfield, Tennessee.
He said, a few people from Detroit, a couple of
couples there. They went down there in vacation to end
up buying a timeshare and then that turned into a lot,

(17:07):
and then he built a house there. So that's where
he ended up, you know, retiring at and where he
passed away. But you know, my dad and I drove
down and spent the night with him and was in
his den actually watching. This was in June May June,
and I remember vividly Oklahoma City was playing San Antonio
Spurs in the NBA playoffs and I'm sitting here with

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Earl Lloyd, just you know, talking life and talking basketball.
And you know what's crazy is when we went back
a few years later to start documentary that we've got
done and hopefully we'll be released soon. I didn't recognize
it when I was down there the first time, But
when I went back the second time, nowhere in his
home was one picture, one ball, one trophy, one book,

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one anything displayed that ever told you played basketball, let
alone that he's in the Natesmith Basketball Hall of Fame
and that he's the first black player to ever play
an NBA. Nothing was displayed in his home. That's how
humble this guy was. And we're going through his home
and getting some b roll footage and Kevin opens up
the door to a closet in the den that I

(18:13):
was sitting in a few years back watching basketball. In
the floor of his closet was his Naatesmith Basketball Hall
of Fame trophy.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Now, I promise you most people, Charles Barkley, for one,
I would say, has got that trophy at his centerpiece
and a light shining down on it. Take the kid's
pictures down if you have to, Oh, absolutely, But Earl
was just that way. I mean, he was just a
special human being.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I cot the coach Brian Port for Western State about
Earl Lloyd talk about that documentary because I know I've had,
like I said, you've been on a couple of times.
We talked about the issues of trying to get this
documentary out. So give us an update on that.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, you know, the money guy behind it. You know,
documentaries don't make a whole lot of money, but the
money guy behind it has kind of got it held
up right Now, Coodymans was one of the producers, and
so Coody Simmons' names probably you know, is going to
be recognizable by a few people. He did the Benji
thirty on thirty on ESPN called Benji, and he also

(19:11):
did the four part docu series on Kanye West that
was released a couple of years ago. So, I mean,
Cooty's a good producer, and and the film's good. I mean,
Carmelo's in it, and Kawhi Leonard is in it, and
Oscar Robertson's in it, and so and the guy behind it.
I mean, I think he had good wishes. He wanted
to get it out to the inner cities and have everybody,

(19:33):
all the inner city youth be able to see it
for free. And it was really done right before COVID,
and then COVID hit and then that backed everything up,
and now we've just not been able to get it
released all.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Right, But we are hoping that because I mean, this
is a story, Coach that I think needs to be told.
And I know you guys are doing it for your
players to come to State, and we'll talk about that
a little bit later on, but it needs to go everywhere. Anybody,
I mean, everybody did a kid that I don't, And
I really don't know what Earl's growing up was. Like

(20:05):
you probably know more about that than I do. But
I'm just going to say, even if he came from
the wealthiest of backgrounds, being an African American at that
time in America and coming of age during the you know,
the beginnings of the of the civil rights movement, when
there's still a whole lot of prejudice, to go on
to play in the NBA, to coach in the NBA,

(20:27):
to do what he did with Chrysler and later with
the City of Detroit. I mean, people need to hear
the story. And when you talk, you were talking about
the people that's on the documentary, the fact that Carmelo,
Anthony and the others that they know the story is promising.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
It is, It definitely is. And you know, Earle always
deflected to Jackie. I mean he always anytime I ask
you about it, because Jackie did it before me. Jackie Robinson.
Jackie Robinson we're talking about. And of course everybody knows
Jackie by one name. He's got a movie forty two
out and all those things. But I used to always
tell Earl, I mean you went through the same hardships.

(21:02):
I mean you didn't stay in the same hotels as
the white players or eating the same restaurants as the
white players. And they even when he was with Syracuse,
they had an exhibition game in South Carolina, and South
Carolina said, yeah, we'll host the game, but you cannot
bring Earl Lloyd. Not he can't play, you can't bring
Earl Lloyd. And so you know, he went through hardships

(21:23):
like that, So he had every reason to be managed
the world right with what he went through. Not Earl
the exact opposite. I mean, he was just such a
nice guy. And just like I say, every time I
talked to him, he never talked about himself. He always, hey,
how's your family? Want to know about my dad and
my kids? And so he, like I say, he was
a special guy.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
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Which when you have players that come on to campus

(22:05):
and some from West Virginia stufferm out of the state,
what does what do you do as a coach and
what does the institution do do to make sure that
people know the story of Earl Lloyd, whether they're playing
basketball or not the average student comes on campus. What
goes into that, well, a couple of things.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
First off, I mean every phone call I have with recruit,
that's one of the first topics I bring up. And
you know, because I want to educate the young and
so it's crazy because I ask all of them, you know,
who's the first African American ever played in the NBA.
Not one has ever got it right, not one ever,
And so you know, that tells you that this story

(22:43):
needs to be told. And then also back in twenty fourteen,
when we open up our new arena, the Walker Commocation Center,
I was fortunate enough to have met a guy by
name of Brian Hanlan. And Brian Hanlan was the official
sculptor of the NBA. And so Brian and I met
in New Orleans at the Final four in twenty twelve,

(23:04):
only because my wife wanted to go to New Orleans,
or else I wouldn't have even went to the Final
four that year, but because she wanted to go, then
I end up in New Orleans. I meet Brian Handlin,
I see one of the statue that he did of Shack,
and I get him involved with this. He charges us
nothing for his artistic work because he knew Earl Lloyd

(23:25):
and got to know him when Earl was inducted into
Hall of Fame. And so the statue is in our lobby.
Every recruit comes in, that's one of the first things
that we go see. And even in our missions department
on the campus tours, they always bring them by and
show them the Earloyd statue.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And I think that's so important that young people, no
matter what the story is, whether it's Earl Lloyd or
whatever coach, I mean that young people need to know
that the foundation for what they are allowed to do
today was that was forged by somebody generations.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
Absolutely absolutely, And you know, for a long time, the
NBA brought him in while he could still travel and
all that brought him in to meet with the rookies
and so he kind of shared their story with them,
but everything says.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Something about him right there. Coach is that the NBA,
you know, because you know, in the world of sports,
you got people that you want the young guys around,
and you got people that you don't necessarily want to
random and this happens frequently in the NFL and other
sports as well. Let's say, okay, we got rookies coming in.
We want you to try to model yourself after these people,

(24:34):
not necessarily that guy. So we're gonna put some positive
people out in front of him.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Absolutely. And Jim Tucker was the other African American that
was on Syracuse Nationals team when they won the NBA
championship in fifty five. And Jim was younger than Earl,
probably four or five years younger than the Earl. Jim
came up when we unveiled the statue as well. He
has since passed away, but Jim tells the story of
how Earl was really kind of his mentor and kind

(24:59):
of you know, led him. Earl always made him dress up,
he said, all the time when they were on the road,
Earl was in a suit and tie because Earl says,
I'm not going to give them anything negative to say
about me, They're going to say enough about me anyway.
I'm not going to give them anything negative to say
about me. So I'm gonna be dressed first class. I'm
gonna act first class. And Jim was more of an

(25:20):
outgoing kind of out in the clubs and all that
kind of things than he used to always say. Man,
Earl would go to listen to some jazz in certain
towns that he knew was safe, but he would always say,
you know, Earl would say, all right, Jim, let's go,
time to get out of here. And so he'd take
Jim home. And so that was just an Earl. I mean,
he was he was a leader and he knew right,

(25:41):
you know, right from wrong, and we're lucky enough to
have him be the guy that broke the color barrier
in my estimation.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
So talk about what's going on this weekend.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
Earl Lloyd Classic year ten I believe this year. And
so we started this, like I say, ten years ago.
Our president at the time, doctor Henpeel, wanted us to
pay homage to our heritage in the Sea Double A
when Earl played here. That's where the team played Westernion
State played in the CW Double A. So we always

(26:11):
bring in one other conference team and then two teams
from the SEAT double A, and so we have this
year we have Livingstone and Clafland University coming in from
the CI, and then we have Glenville State is going
to be there from the Mountain East. So on Friday,
the games will be at five thirty, seven thirty, and
then Saturday at two and four. We play the late

(26:32):
games on both those days, so we'll play at seven
thirty on Friday and four o'clock on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Is there an effort when these teams come in, especially
Mcglenville's one thing, but maybe some other teams that aren't
familiar with the story. Is there a little education that
goes on with them? I mean, because you know this
time of year, as you well know, coach, I mean,
you're playing some kind of a tournament or shootout all
the time named after this person or that person. Maybe
they know who the person is, maybe they don't. Is

(26:58):
there an effort to maybe for these outside teams to say, here,
here's you got that name on your shirt now as
a T shirt as a reminder, here's who this person was.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Yeah. Absolutely, and especially Livingstone's coach, Coach Stintson, he's an
older coach and he comes back every year and he says,
I come back for Earl Lloyd. And so I know
he shares it with his team and Breon down at
Claughland this year. I'm sure he will too. But they
all come in through the lobby. And this year is
the seventy five year anniversary of Earl playing in the game,

(27:31):
being twenty twenty five, and he played in nineteen fifty.
So the NBA has got behind it. This shirt I'm
wearing here, the NBA has paid for and given to
all the participants.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Let's got other names on it too.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
It does because the pioneers. You know, a lot of
people will say Chuck Cooper, you know, the first black
player to play in the NBA, Chuck Cooper. Well that's
not true. Chuck Cooper was the first black player to
get drafted. He was drafted in the second round by
the Boston Celtics. Now the minute thing that hardly anybody knows.
Chuck Cooper was at West Virginia State as a freshman
and he was only there for first semester. He got

(28:03):
drafted into the Army. After his two years. He ends
up going to Ducane, which is where he was from Pittsburgh.
And then Sweetwater Clifton is the other one that's on
the shirt. And Sweetwater Clifton was the Xavier University in
Louisiana and hbcuar there, but he was playing for the
Harlem Globetrotters. And so Sweetwater was the first black player
to sign an NBA contract. So the NBA has really

(28:26):
been promoting all year.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Tell the story. You really got to tell all three.
I mean you do, yeah, you do.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Just the way the schedule fell because Earl was drafted,
I believe in the ninth round. I think this is
like the hundredth pick and so, but the way the
schedule fell October thirty first, nineteen fifty, who was the
first to play.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Can you imagine with the modern athletes having to have
that hangover their head that they may be drafted. I mean,
you know, the nineteen twenty year old athletes hot shot
And I'm not trying to, you know, ship cast any
negative light on on modern athletes. Many would be the
first to step up and say let's go. But it's
a different world. I mean, I don't know if the

(29:05):
young guys and girls, for that well, you know, guys,
I guess they don't understand that, you know, you meant
to put down the basketball or the football or the
baseball and go to a foreign land.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yes, absolutely back then and when Earl the Korean War
was going on and so that was what And Earl
actually didn't go overseas, but and he played some army ball, Dad,
you know, armball and what to have you spend a
year and a half. But you know, and Chuck Cooper,
I mean he got his college education interrupted. I mean
he's he's a freshman first semester and they're like, uh,

(29:34):
you got to go to the army. So it's definitely
a different time, Coach.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Forard, it's always a pleasure to have you on the
show to tell the Earl Lloyds story. And our hope
is that every any time we have you on that
somebody hears it that didn't know the story, and hope
that you can go out and take in some great
basketball this weekend and keep us updated on the documentary.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
All right, absolutely, we'll do. I appreciate you having me
on day.

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How you doing man, I'm doing very well. Thanks for
having on. Thank thank you. I just committed the Knawk
County Commission to something as in the change over there
with Coach Poor that you guys are going to at
some point going to bring this up about having an

(34:01):
Earl Lloyd Day in County. We definitely should do that.
I mean, that's a big deal. It is a very
very big deal. And I've had Coach Poor on a
couple of times been to talk about the story of
Earl Lloyd because so many people, I think, and I
don't want to make it sound like Epickon'm young people.
I'm talking about people our age don't know about Earl Lloyd.
I mean, I mean, think about this. Okay again, you

(34:22):
know what he did at West Virginia State, military veteran,
first black player to suit up in a game, first
black assistant coach, first see he was. After the coaching,
he went on to a successful business career, high ranking
official with Chrysler Motor Corporation in Detroit, Executive assistant to

(34:45):
the Mayor of Detroit. And that's that's pretty impressible, and
all from a kid that played at West Virginia State.

Speaker 14 (34:53):
It's funny because I didn't know anything about Earl Lloyd
until I was actually on campus at Westernion State and
saw the at you now whatever. I started reading about it,
and that's that was probably seven or eight years ago. Yeah,
well or six years ago, but it was. It was
definitely not before that.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, they're trying to get that documentary finished. There's been
some financial issues that got delayed by COVID. But I
think it's a story Ben that I mean, you talk
I'm a sports documentary. Not if it says thirty thirty
for thirty I'll watch it no matter what. I've got
a bank of I'm recorded as a matter of fact.
But I love this stuff. But you talk about a great,
a great story that everybody needed to see. Even if
you're not a this is not a sports story. I mean,

(35:31):
this is a story of triumph and overcoming and so
on and so forth. So even if you're not a
basketball person, this definitely, definitely would be something that everybody
needs to check out.

Speaker 14 (35:39):
Yeah, basketball was just kind of a way for him
to get out there. By the time, you know, and
then he's been successful in everything that he did.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
He would have been a success, I think no matter
if he never picked up a basketball, that's right, that's
kind of the way I look at him, all right,
So it's the subject that will not go away.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Ben.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's it's Halloween, particularly it's November talking about Halle because
us you guys did something last week related to this,
particularly Trick or Treat two weeks ago. Trick or Treat
for Canawan County, originally schedule for Thursday night, got moved
to the actual Halloween night on Friday night, and you
joked on the show that day. I think we had
you on maybe the day after the announcement, so maybe Wednesday.

(36:15):
I think you were on the show that day. You
joked in you said, and I think your words were,
we just need to move Trick or Treating to October
thirty first, no matter what. And I guess the other
commissioners were on board.

Speaker 14 (36:27):
They were, and so so you know, it's a thing.
It's not a criticism of what the commission has done
in the past, because I think there are very valid
reasons to try to keep it off of a Friday
or Saturday. And honestly, a lot of people were upset
that it's eventually going to be on a Sunday. But
you want to make sure that you're doing all you
can to protect the kids. But at the end of

(36:48):
the day, I think that it needs to be the
parent's responsibility. If it's raining, you don't need the county
commission to tell you, oh, keep your kid inside, that's
something the parents can do. If it's snowing, if it's cold,
you don't need the county commission to say, oh, it's
way too cold for your kid to be outside.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
That's crazy.

Speaker 14 (37:07):
It's the parents and you want if you want to
take your kid out trick or treating and it's snowing
or it's raining, take them. And it's not necessarily going
to be on a Thursday night or a Wednesday night
like we had done in the past. It's going to
be whenever the thirty first is.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
And we we talked about that before, because you're not
gonna make everybody happy. I mean, people don't want it
on Wednesday night because in many areas it's church night.
They don't want it on Thursday night because it's middle
school basketball or middle school sports football, football, I mean Friday,
they don't want it because it's high school Saturday. The
thing was is that, well, we don't want them out
when all the people are going to the bars, and
we don't want it on Sunday. But you're saying, going forward,

(37:41):
barring anything that trigger, treat in Kanan County will be
held on the thirty first.

Speaker 14 (37:46):
Thirty first, And you know, I was thinking about it
and I don't remember. I guess it's been so long
when I when I was growing up, I don't remember
them bouncing the day around. It was always on the
thirty first, and I don't remember, you know, I don't
remember trick or treating on a Sunday or mattering that
it was.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
On a Sunday.

Speaker 14 (38:03):
A lot of people go to church in the mornings,
you know, and they'll have maybe a family gathering at
noon or something, but it's going to be six to
eight pm on the thirty first. It doesn't matter what
day it's going to fall on. And it's going to
take a major, major event for that to be moved
because one of the things, and there's some validity. And
by the way, I did some research to Google, was

(38:25):
my friend. I tried to figure out exactly what other
communities were doing, and primarily they just hold on the
thirty first all across the country. So I think a
lot of people were anticipating it being on Thursday. Some
people had to take off work. Now The truth is,
the weather came in. It wasn't nearly as bad as
we were predicting. But you know, trying to predict the

(38:47):
weather and move an event like that when parents are
taking the day off or the evening off from work
to take their kids trick or treating, to move it
to Friday, I gotta be honest with you. On Thursday,
it was three pm. I was sitting in my office
and I looked out the window and it was And
so I called a couple of my meteorology friends and
I was like, look, is this gonna happen or not,
because if it doesn't happen, I'm gonna have to like

(39:08):
list my house and move out of town. And they said,
oh no, just wait, it's happening. It's happening. And you know,
we got some weather. It wasn't as bad as we
thought it was going to be, particularly the wind, which
is what I was worried about. Forty forty mine hour winds,
kids out trick or treating. You know, tree branch is falling,
drivers having trouble with visibility. That's what I was worried about.
So then we moved to Friday. Friday was a was

(39:29):
a perfect weather day for trick or treat. But honestly,
I probably could have had it on Thursday anyway. All right,
so going forward, no matter what it is. The thirty first, okay,
is a third and again and.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
We had a text here somebody said about it being
on a Sunday, even if it's on a Sunday.

Speaker 14 (39:44):
Even on a Sunday. And I will tell you now,
so go ahead and prepare for it now. October thirty
one of twenty twenty seven is a Sunday, So go
ahead and prepare for it. If your kids you don't
want them trick or treating on Sunday, take them to
a trunk or treat earlier in the week. But you've
got two years notice to deal with it, right.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
And I said, the thing that's the most ridiculous thing
about this, to be Ben, and I promise we're going
to move on, is that the fake You could trick
or treat anytime you want. You don't need the I
mean you want to, you know, because there's extra law
enforcement officers and so on and so forth that you
want to put into play emergency Everson, But you could
trigger treat anytime you want. There's no tricker treat police.

(40:28):
You know what I and I'm gonna be honest. I
was Friday night during Trick or Treat. I was a
nervous wreck.

Speaker 14 (40:34):
I kept thinking that it's high school football. You've got
people there, you know. We move trick or treat and
the municipalities followed, and I pray nobody gets hurt. I pray.
I was an I was a mess, like Friday was
so like this is going to be on us if
some kids gets hurt. And that evening, I said, you
know what, forget it. We're I'm going to move the

(40:56):
commission to try to do this thing on October thirty
one and just make sense that you don't need the
government jumping in too when your kids can go get candy.
You know, come on, we got more important things to do.
Quite frankly, quick text.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Unless everyone is willing to move Christmas to another day,
don't mess with Halloween trick or treating. That's right, we're not.

Speaker 14 (41:14):
We're not touching Christmas and we're touching trigger treat.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
All right.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Did anyone ever think about no football games of the
last Friday in October had that day just for trick
or treat? Just curious? So in other words. You go
to your high school teams and say you're going to
play on we can't to play on Thursday. Yeah, now
look what you've done, salang, go listen, listen.

Speaker 14 (41:33):
I'm not messing around with high school football and I'm
not messing around with trick or treat. So those are
the those are off limits for the county commission.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
All right, quick text. Church folks aren't more important than
us Heathens who celebrate All Saints Day. We live through
the seventies. Just fine, all right, I am off this
now on the.

Speaker 14 (41:51):
Topic because honestly, everybody has so many opinions. And I
joked on the show last time. You know, the people
that are raising cane online are are probably the ones
that turn off their lights and hide inside and like
they're not home anyway. But they just want something to vent.
And that's okay.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
We're here for it.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
You know.

Speaker 14 (42:08):
I can be a punching bag. In fact, a lot
of it. It's just hilarious to me, Like people will
screenshot it and send it to me. I just crack up.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
But here's what I hear. Thought I predicted. Okay, and
you and I have never talked about your political future.
You're happy to being a Kna County commissioner. But let's
just let's just say you're running for reelection for Canon
County Commission, okay, or whatever the office is. I can
hear it now and then deep in that deep voice,
Ben Solango destroyed Trick or Treat. Ben Selango hates your kids.

(42:37):
He chose Satan on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Yeah, I can see it.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Oh, it's going to be all right, all right, So
let's get serious now. You rolled out a new app
last week. Can you want to talk about that?

Speaker 14 (42:45):
You know what the the And it's funny because it
was also on the last show that somebody texted in
or called in and said, what's up with the KANAA app?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
It doesn't work?

Speaker 14 (42:54):
And the truth is I hadn't had the app on
my phone in a long time because it didn't work
that well, the prior app, And so the Commission had
been working on a new app. Our Emergency Management has
been working with Metronoma one and working on a new app,
and we just launched it at the Commission meeting on
last Thursday. So if you want to get alerts, we're

(43:15):
talking weather alerts, traffic alerts, you can go Emergency Management.
We give safety tips on their emergency contact information. All
of it is on this one app. If you go
to the app store, whatever phone you have, you have
an iPhone or Android, you go and you type in
kanaw Alert and it should be the first thing that

(43:38):
comes up. You download it, and you will get and
you can set your notification preferences. You don't have this
thing dinging on your phone in two seconds, but you
can set your notification presence. But you'll get it all.
If the interstate shut down, you're going to see it.
If you're going to see the right now, the eight
hundred block at Kelly's Creek Road and System Villa is
shut down, do it or an accident?

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Now?

Speaker 14 (43:57):
The one flaw that we have on the app, which
we're working on fixing, is a lot of these alerts
need to be timed. Like I don't know exactly when
that alert came out. So now we've got an accident
in the westbound exit ramp at Nitro, So you know,
I don't know exactly when that happened. Was it immediately
or was it twenty minutes ago? OK, So we're gonna

(44:19):
put a time stamp on you got it. That's going
to be updated but everything else is great if you
need uh, we did a there was a presentation you
can't actually text nine to one one from this app,
And there have been situations where people been kidnapped, they've
been in the trunk of a car.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
You can't call nine one one.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
You got an emergency situation, an abuse, an abuse of situation.
You don't necessarily want somebody to hear you on the phone,
so you can actually text.

Speaker 14 (44:44):
Now, you can text it and nine to one one
actually receives text and a lot of people don't know that,
but you can actually text it. The other thing too,
is when you text nine to one one, they can
pinpoint within a ten foot radius of where you're located. Right,
So if somebody texts the to.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Help, yes, like you know whatever, I mean, they will
know where you are. That's they will know where you are.
That's that's it's that's that's very good to have. I
hope you never have to use it, but it will
be used.

Speaker 14 (45:11):
The other thing too that this app does, which I
did not realize until they demonstrated on Thursday, is you
can set up like a buddy system. So if you're
if your friend's going to go on a hike. You
can actually share your location on the app, so you
both have to have the app.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
So, Dave, if you.

Speaker 14 (45:28):
Went to you went out to conostate for us, you said, Hey,
I'm going to go for a hike. You share your
location with me on the app and I can track
where you are and so if something happens, then we
know where to find you. Okay, you know, So it's
do you want me to start doing that way? Please don't? Okay,
please don't.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Well, the chance of me going out for a hike
are probably not existing anyway. All Right, we got to
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ben Selango, Kanakaanty Commission presidents here. Tech says, does location
sharing need to be turned on for nine one one
to find you? I would presume it would. I think
it has to be. Tech says any way to have
a chip scanner on the app, so if you find astray,
you can check this is a strand when you can
check in, you can check it for owner and home

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without trying to get them into your car, taken to
a vet or a shelter for scan.

Speaker 14 (48:58):
I don't know how those were. Are there apps now
where you can check like if you find astray, tea
chip or do you have to take them to the.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
TJA the animals you're our technology expert, not pet guy. Sorry, Stephanie.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Can take them that.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, so I don't know if that's possible. Okay, all right.
We had a text here I wanted to get your
taken on. It says, why did Knawa County demolish the
old Macy's building before funding and planning it for the
sports center or final.

Speaker 14 (49:24):
Well, because we needed to secure the land, we needed
to come up with the plan. We had the finances
in place. We're still waiting on a request for an
ear mark that we submitted. In fact, there was an
ear mark that was approved back in twenty twenty four
and then the government, the federal government couldn't pass a budget,

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so we lost our ear mark. We had the financing
in place, you know, but it was it was going
to be a seventy million dollar ear mark. Congress was
unable to pass a budget that year and so we
lost it. And so that that's the hold up. So
we've submitted again. And I'm not I say this every
time bring this up. I'm not blaming anybody. I'm not
blaming anybody. I'm just saying that's that was the funding plan,
you know, it was. We had scaled the project back

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because of all the ARPA funds that had come in
had drive driven up the cost of construction significantly, from
like three point fifty a square foot almost seven hundred
dollars a square foot, So we had to scale back
the project. That's when we phased out the pool and
thought about maybe we can do the pool at some
other time. And so then we had the financing in place.
You know, the city was ready to bond a portion.

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We were ready to bond a portion we each put in.
I think it was around five million dollars, and we
had everything ready to go, and then Congress couldn't pass
the budget to approve that earmark that we had been awarded.
But again, getting getting the letters one thing, getting the
cash to something else.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Indeed, uh, Texas, Dave, can you ask Ben, are they
going to have family pricing this year? For light the
night for a family of five gets darn expensive and
then they nickel and downy inside. I don't know, is
that's something that you can answer. I don't know that
you were not.

Speaker 14 (51:00):
Yeah, I have to take my commission hat off, says Okay,
I think there are family there are family nights, and
let me say this, if there's somebody out there that
can't afford it. All you got to do is reach out,
because we do have some complimentary tickets and we do
sponsor some families. It is it can be quite expensive,
but you know, just to go in and see the lights,
it's not that it's not that bad.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Texas for ben Selango, good morning. My question related to
smart meters? How is it legal to not be able
to opt out? They emit more EMF radiation than our
cell phones, up to nineteen thousand pulses per day. Constant
exposure has been linked to sleep disorders, heart headaches, not heartaches,
even brain timors. Can you can you why is it
not possible to opt out of those?

Speaker 14 (51:38):
I do not know.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Okay, you can't buy an old meter anymore. That's all
they make, okay, smart meters. I mean seriously, you can't
go buy an old meter that you would read or
even in are F meter. They don't make them anymore. Okay,
all right, well there you go, there you go. That's
why we keep him around. Yeah, all right, right, final
forty five seconds? What else is on the radar for
Commissioner Selangoa and the commission.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
You know what?

Speaker 14 (51:57):
So we have we've secured the architect that's going to
do the designing. We've got to engineer the new Knaw
County Sheriff's shooting range. We're looking at that. We've got
that in place. We're hoping that the design will be finished.
The ZMM is gonna work on the design through the
winter and then by the time spring rolls around we'll
be able to start construction. I hope to have that

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done probably summer to fall of next year. That's a
big deal, so anxious for that to happen.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Kenagh County Commission, President of ben Selanga, appreciate you being here.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Meadows and Wilson coming up with the talk line. Shelley
Moore Capito off the top is at sil right, that's right.
And EPA Administrator Lee Zelden. Okay, they're together and they're
going to be on this phone call together. See you
later today. Till then, have fun. I love somebody,