October 7, 2024 • 33 mins
Gregg Bell and Christopher Kidd take to the airwaves and react to the Seahawks losing at home to the New York Giants 29-20. Gregg and Christopher play audio from Laken Tomlinson and his thoughts on the blocked FG attempt, Geno Smith speaking out stating the Giants wanted the game more, plus a few more audio clips from Mike Macdonald as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're gonna talk at the final block field, but we're
gonna go into depth about it. And here's how it
sounded on CBS Sports yesterday, Mister towna game.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Isaiah Simmis had.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Picked up by Chris Ford Weekly had Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
The giant sideline of reps. Unbelievable, all kinds of Seattle
calamities there the play before Jackson Smith and Jiggers dropped
what would have been a first down catch inside the
Giants thirty yard line with a minute left in the game,
the Seahawks could have been marching toward the winning touchdown
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at least could have made the kick shorter for Jason
Myers where he didn't have to kick it as low
as he did from forty seven.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yards when fifty five seconds left, you heard Isaiah Thomas
all six with four of them right up the middle.
And we'll talk about that, what the Giants did to
create that, why it was legal and it was legal,
and what the Seahawks did not do on Jason Myers's
attempt to try to send the game into overtime, a
sixty yard return of that block kick for the final
six points of the game. Twenty nine to twenty. So
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instead of twenty three to twenty three to overtime, Giants
win twenty nine to twenty. I talked to Lake and
Tomlinson after the game. You'll hear from him. He was
the right guard who got pushed down and allowed Isaiah
Simmons to jump over him and then through the a gap.
But Chris, the stories are the loss. The defense didn't
tackle more damning. They didn't play hard enough. They got
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outplayed and out wanted. And you're inher in a minute
about that. On offense, Ryan Grubb, we've talked about Ryan
Grubb's great adjustments and his game planning and what he's
exploited defenses. Well, yesterday he messed up. He called fifty
one pass plays out of fifty eight plays total offensive
plays fifty one out of fifty eight. Kenneth Walker had
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five rush attempts. They think he's one of the best
running backs in the league. They talk about how he
can break tackles in the open field. He makes guys
minus and they ate in the ball five times the
entire game. Seven sacks of Geno Smith. Here's what Geno
Smith had to say after the game. They played harder,
they wanted it more, they fought harder, they came out
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to execute it better. How damning is that they wanted
it more and they fought harder than we did. The
flip side is that the paraphrase that is that we
didn't care as much as they did. And I mean
that's the essence of football. If you don't want to
want it as the other team bad as the other team,
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and you don't work as hard as the other team,
you're gonna lose that. When he said that, I was like, really,
they wanted it more? Why didn't you want it? Why
didn't the Seahawks want to go to four and want
and have a two game lead going into the Thursday
night game against the forty nine Ers. Damning a damning
quote for a quarterback and captain of the team to
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say that another team more than they. But the forty
nine Ers blew a ten point lead in the fourth
quarter lost twenty four to twenty three at home to Arizona.
They scored only one offensive touchdown. The other touchdown was
on a scoop and score off at blockfield goal, So
the Seahawks still have the one game lead over the
forty nine Ers and the Cardinals. The top the NFC
West should be two if they had not, if they'd
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tried harder. Qulding Gino Smith Seahawks forty nine ers Thursday
five to twenty at Lumenfield. In the short week turnaround.
Byron Refy didn't play again because the hamstring. Second game
straight game that he's missed. Jenn And wos who played
just twenty snaps in his first game in twelve months,
then he got hurt again his thigh. This morning on
his coaches show, Mike McDonald said it may be longer
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than we wanted to be with the thigh injury with Nuosu.
So now he's got a new issue. After the spraining
the MCL that had him out from August twenty fourth
to October the sixth, he goes twenty plays and now
has a thigh issue that's going to may keep him
out quote longer than we want to. Coach Mike McDonald
says nothing new this morning on Riek Woolan and his
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ankle injury. He went out twice with an injured lower
right leg once in the first half, walked around the
tent the blue medical tent behind the bench, came back
in Neamiah Pritchett was playing in some key situations esterday
and the Giants targeted him with Slayton late in the game.
Then Wollan came back into the game and got hurt again.
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Trey Brown came into the game for Riek Woman in
the second quarter and they went back to more base
and man, did the Giants have a target on him.
You can tell the game plan was when twenty two
is in the game were throwing at him. Darius Slayton
had seven catches for one hundred and ten yards midway
through the fourth quarter, most of them against Trey Brown.
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And when Brown wasn't giving up catches, he was pulling
guys down and holding and of course defensive holding penalties
in the NFL automatic first downs. There was a stop,
it would have been a drive stop. There was a
gain no gain drive stop in the second quarter when
Woolan went out out and Trey Brown was called for
defensive holding down the field negated the no game third
down stop and the Giants drive continued. I don't know
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if you sockers. Last night, Trey Brown went on Ax
Twitter and said.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, that wasn't a good move.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He all been waiting four years for me to play
a bad game. You know what's funny is I heard
Hugh Mellen mentioned this earlier this morning, and he's right
on our station. Back way back when and even five
ten years ago, players would just think that and STU
about it, but they wouldn't voice it publicly for everyone
to see. Right. Yeah, But to Trey Brown's point, he
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has been good for them year over year over year.
That's so light injuries. But man, yeah, the Giants targeted
him yesterday and they put he played eighty five percent
of the snaps between replacing Woolen and how much Mike
McDonald wanted to go. Nickel and the Giants took full
advantage of that. Week five of the NFL season, the
Giants remained the NFC's only unbeaten team, beating Aaron Rodgers
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in the two and three Jets in London. Final second
interception for the Vikings in the red zone sealed that win.
Washington won again, rookie Jaden Daniels in the offense again
four hundred plus yards. The Commanders smashed the Browns to
move to four and one and leave the NFC East.
The Rams are one and four after a twenty four
to nineteen home loss to the three and two Packers.
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Your boy, Andy Dalton Chris one hundred and thirty six
yards passing, replaced by Bryce Young in the final minutes
of Carolina's thirty six to ten loss at Chicago. After
the game, Dave Canaliz, the Panthers coach, said that Dalton
is still the starting quarterback for Carolina. The Bears are
three and two. The Cowboys you mentioned scored on the
final play beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh in the Sunday
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night game twenty to seventeen. The Cowboys are three and two,
a game behind the first place Commanders. The Saints two
and two are at the four and oh Chiefs in
Kansas City at night in the Monday night game five
point fifteen here on ninety three point three KJRFM. The
Chiefs trying to keep pace with the Vikings, as is
the NFL's only unbeaten teams through five weeks. College football,
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Tony Casterer Cone and the Boys had a good time
Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Sorry about that. Let's try that again.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Eleven to go and a deeply satisfying win for the
Huskies inmid it five four three two. Tuddle takes the snap.
Here's the final play of the game. No, hey, wave
it Dad, and here come to students. You can paint
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this one with a big purple W. It is all
about the W Tonight on mot Lake, Washington, twenty seven, Michigan, seventeen.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Tony Cash are going on the call here on ninety
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moon landing.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I thought it was Happy New Year.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
That three two Happy New Year.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Twenty twenty five sold out Husky Stadium. Husky's beat the
Michigan team that was obviously over rank at number ten,
twenty seven to seventeen. As Tony said, Tony will have
the hutch Husky Coaches Show with Jed Fish tonight six
to seven on nine to fifty kJ R n f AM.
Excuse me, our sister station. That's because we'll have the
Monday night game on the FM station. The Huskies play
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at Iowa nine am Saturday, right here in ninety three
point three KJR FM. Does that mean a five am
pregame show for Dave Softy maller A.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
That's I'm sure he's probably against that, but based on
how the pregame show has usually gone, you're you're on
the money there, so four hours before. That's tough, buddy,
that's you want to the morning show.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I know some people aren't even in at five am
Saturday morning. The four and one Washington State, Speaking of people,
aren't in a five am on Saturday morning, Washington State Cougars.
The football players are, but no, some of the students.
Four and one Washington State returns from It's by to
play at Fresno State. That's a four pm kicks Saturday
on FS one Television. The Shade Press College football top
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twenty five to Five of the top eleven teams lost
this past weekend, four of them to unranked teams. Vanderbilt
ended a forty year losing streak to Alabama. Forty years.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
They had one since I was in eighth grade against
Alabama and I'm fifty three years old. Did you see
what the students did with the goalpost? I did not. So.
Memorial stadiums undergoing right renovations. I stayed right next to
there when the Seahawks were in Nashville six weeks ago.
They're rebuilding the stadium. Only half the stadiums open for seating,
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and the students tore the goalpost down after Vanderbilt be
number one Alabama and walked it out of the stadium,
out through the campus into the Cumberland River, which is
twelve miles away. The VanderBurg campus is on the west
end of Nashville, way away from downtown, in Broadway and
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all the honkey talk bars. They walked it right down
Broadway twelve miles and put it in the re Vanderbilt
football is funny. On next Twitter Saturday going, has anyone
seen our goalpost? Can you send us the location where
it is? They founded in the river, They pulled it
out of the out of the river. Good for those folks.
Forty year losing streak, and Vanderbilt ends up by beating Alabama.
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So the new pole has Texas in Alabama's place at
number one, Albama's former place, number two, Ohio State and
third Mianke. Oregon plays Saturday in Eugene. More about that later.
As in at eleven thirty five intend Penn State is fourth.
They play at USC Saturday. USC lost for the seventh
time in eleven games. Chris, you think that's why Jen
(10:39):
Cohen's paying Lincoln Rally ten million dollars a year now?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That might that might be some of it right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Seven of eleven games they lost at Minnesota. There's no way.
There's no way USC should be losing at Minnesota. Georgia's
fifth Alabama fell to seventh. Don't know why. Army remains
unranked at five and oh they smashed Tulsa forty nine
to seven. As I meant, Navy routed air Force to
move to five and zero. They're also still unranked. Navy
and Army are leading the American Athletic Association. You may
(11:07):
not care, but that the Army Navy game could be
for a playoff spot in a league title, and they
could play again the week after Army Navy in Washington, DC,
just when McIntyre and I will be there for ninety
three point three KJRFM the second weekend of December. The
third weekend of December could be Army Navy redo for
the American title, where I guess it'd be the week
before because the college football Playoffs starts the week after
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Army Navy, so you could have Army Navy back to
back weeks. Army and Navy both play Notre Dame. That's
the biggest roadblock remaining on each of their schedules. Army
doesn't play two Lane, which is the next best team
in that conference. So there's a path for Army to
be undefeated in the league before they play Navy, perhaps
twice in two weekends in December, for a spot potentially
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in the college football players.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I'm getting ahead of myself, but that's okay, Greg, why not?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
What the hell? They're five and oh the first time
and Army and nave E been five and zero at
disappoint in what nineteen forty five? Kracking begin their season
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Also in the National League, the Potteris had the Dodgers
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postseason record with six home runs, beat the Dodgers in
Los Angeles in Game two. That series also tied one
to one. Today, the Guardian's host Detroit. Cleveland's up one
oer and that American League series. The Yankees host the
Royals in Game two, with New York cup one nothing
because they got a fortuitous replay judgment on a stolen
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base right before a game winning hit. The Sounders keep
winning one nothing over Colorado Saturday that cinches the top
four seed for Seattle's eleven and a home field for
the best of three first round playoff series. In MLS,
you saw the New York Liberty eliminated defending champion in
Las Vegas Aces from the WNBA playoffs, winning a league
semi final series, and your boy Lebron James and Bronni
(13:26):
James played for the first time together yesterday. Chris, I'm
sure you saw that.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I didn't wy I'm waiting for the regular season, you
know me. How everyone is regarding the preseason for the NFL.
That's how I feel about the NBA A and watching
none of it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, well, they played Phoenix in a preseason game. I
think it was in Las Vegas, and the noteworthiness was
that Lebron James and his son played together.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah, okay, can we get to the regular season?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Please, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They're gonna be a lot of those first man first
first time they share the same Gatory tal, first time
they drink from the same Gatory cup.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Are they gonna get technicals together? That's my biggest thing.
Are they both gonna a technical foul in the same game?
That's gonna be history.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Chris, what's the most alarming thing you saw from the Seahawks?
One of many, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Oh, it was the defensive back play, and more so obviously,
I think, if I'm not mistaken, Trey Brown. He gave
up seven catches for one hundred yards through the entire season.
Through four weeks. He had only been I think it
was maybe sixty six yards on seven targets, so he
had it. He was just not ready. I'm not saying
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that Darius Slayton is a bad receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
He's in the NFL. Obviously he's really good.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
But from training camp up until week five, Trey Brown
was one of those guys that you line him up
with DK, you line him up against JSN, you line
him against Tyler Lockett, he's going to win and he's
also going to lose some. On Sunday, he didn't win
any He lost every time. He did not win any
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of those snaps against Darius Slayton. And you mentioned it earlier,
how they say, you know what, when we see twenty
two out there, Trey Brown on Darius, we are throwing
the football to Darius and they ran the same concept.
Outside of his goal ball, they ran the same en
route slant every single time. And in my head, I'm
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watching the game, I'm thinking, oh, it's third and seven. Hey,
a slant's coming tray. Maybe get inside, leverage and jump it,
make a play, bat the ball down, maybe pick it off.
I don't know, do anything but get beat inside. And
it happened over and over and over and over again.
So that is the one thing that stood out of
my mind is just wow, they just cannot get off
the field on third down. And it was in certain
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scenarios where you know, it's a pass and it's not
as if Daniel Jones is going to have all these
unique routes that are going to be happening. It's literally
going to be a dig route or a slant route.
I think there was one occasion where they threw an
out route to the tight end, but Julian Love was
able to get down there and make the stop. That
was earlier in the game. It wasn't even a third down.
But the one thing that stood out to me is
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just the play from the DB's wasn't strong enough. I
know Reek played well, but he also got banged up.
I know Spoon was okay for the most part, but
unfortunately Trey Brown was the mark.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And we talked about it.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I think against the Denver Broncos when the Broncos have
their white cornerback Riley Cooper.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know what Grub said.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
He said, Oh, Tyer Lockett versus the new guy, We're
just gonna attack him the whole entire game. And that
is how the Seahawks ended up winning that game. They
just found a matchup that they liked. Ty Lockett won
his reps one on one every time, and when they
needed a first down, guess who they went Tyer Lockett
on a mesh concept. Riley got mixed up between DK
and trying to cover that and got beat and Trey
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Brown was on the other end of that spectrum. On
Sunday against the Giants, they said, yeah, we're gonna tack
number twenty two and that's what they were successful at.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Ten catches the entire season in four games for Darris
Slayton before yesterday, and of course Slayton was being the
number two guy to the NFL's top receiver, Molik Neighbors
in those four games. Neighbors didn't play yesterday because he
was in concussion protocol, so that became Slaton became the
number one guy. Kane Jones had a brilliant row over
the shoulder to him down the sideline to Slatons for him,
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that was the best throw I've seen a quarterback in
that opposing quarterback in Lumenfield in a long time. I
thought Daniels Jones played a really.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Good Yeah you couldn't.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Yeah, I'm sure the Giants were very, very happy with
how he played that game.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But just as damning Chris, the Seahawks gave up one
hundred and seventy five yards rushing one hundred plus of
them to a third string rookie running back who's a
converted wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, that was that was that was one to one.
BF was crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Four hundred and twelve yards allowed to the Giants one
seventy five on the ground. Yeah, and that is exactly
opposite of what Mike McDonald once from his defense. It
added up to. I mean, they shouldn't even have been
in the game by the end of it. They somehow
rallied to it. We'll talk about the Giants blockfield goal next.
We're going to talk about the Giants pushing down the
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long snapper and why by NFL rules that's actually legal,
and heck, why isn't every other of an NFL team
do that? Maybe they Well now after this also, Ryan
Greup messed up yesterday. We're gonna talk about that and
more next on ninety three point three KJRFM. Hi, welcome
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back Greg Bell from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center in
renting Seahawks headquarters, which they're already into preparation for Thursday night.
They are hosting the forty nine Ers five point fifteen
at Loominfield. Chris Francis Fox thirteen, Seattle's going to join
us at eleven o'clock. He was sitting behind me in
the press box yesterday the Seahawks loss to the Giants
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we talked at length about some of the problems. There
were many couldn't fit into one segment. Let's talk about
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the blockfield goal. The Giants said they put in a
new play this Tuesday, this past Tuesday, and it had
two of their defensive tackles Dexter Lawrence on the left
side and a fellow defensive tackle on the right side,
pushing down onto the backs of Lake and Tomlinson, the
right guard in the field goal balk walking scheme for
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Seattle and the long snapper Crystal. When they pushed those
two down and created the ability for Isaiah Simmons at
six foot four to jump over the A gap, threw
it and over it and get high enough to block
Jason Myers' field goal ball scooped up by a teammate
and the Giants get a sixty yard touchdown and seal
the game. Okay, here's what the rule says. It's articles.
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It's rule number twelve, Article nine, player conduct and what
you do in a field goal situation. You cannot line
up over the long snapper. That's rule number one, and
they Giants did not do that. You cannot jump over
the long snapper's rule number two. The Giants did not
do that. They jumped through the A gap contact against
the snapper. It's widely believed that any contact against the
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long snapper after the snap is illegal, and this is
where the Giants exploited. A loopool in the roll the
rural states in verbatim that contact to the neck or
head area of the long snapper during and after the
snap is illegal. The Giants pushed into Chris Stall's back
the middle of his back below his shoulder blades, that
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by definition is legal. The NFL officials analysts that works
for the league. Walt Anderson explained this in a pool
report that we asked for after the game yesterday before
report as to hell that works as you asked for
to the NFL, Hey, we'd like to talk to the
officials or to an official representative of the league. You
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have to go through the league's PR department, a three
way call with that official, the league's PR guy, and you,
and then you get an official statement that's been pretty
much sanitized by the league and everyone's on the same
page before they even talk to the reporter. Brady Henderson
in ESPN is the pull reporter this year for the
Seahawks market. I was a couple of years ago, and
so that's how the process works. And Walt Anderson told
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Brady Henderson, the pull reporter, that because the Giants pushed
the back of Chris Stole and not the head or
neck area, that's legal. I talked to Lake and Tomlinson
after the game. He was the one who got pushed
down the right guard, and here's what he thought of
the play.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
What can you do in that situation when he's post
leverage and he just pushes it underground.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
I felt like something probably you know should have reviewed. Well,
you know, that's just something that happened, and I don't
know I have feelings about it, but he went and
how it went.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
I thought it was illegally he pushed you right of
the stating in the fourth and one, the failed fourth
and one and your own and it would happen on
that can't recall well in general offensively, it took so
long to get going. What was the issue on a
lot of screamage to anything.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
I mean, all credit to them. Did a great job
of you know, hold months to the ball, keeps us
off up the field because been good rhythm. I know,
so credited them.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Who's the message in the locker room after the game
among you guys from the coaches?
Speaker 6 (22:23):
You know, it's a bad taste. You know, we have
a short week coming up here and it's full steam
an you know we're gonna do everything we can con
bear ourselves, correct dollar mistakes and move forward to the
ear I plays in that game.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That's like in Tomlin's in the twelfth year veteran the guard.
He wanted to talk about to some extent, the block
field goal and what he thought was an illegal play.
When I walked away from that discussion, I thought he
was thinking that his contact against him was illegal. That's
what I asked him about, and then I started thinking,
I bet he thinks it's the contact on Stole it
was illegal the long snapper, and in fact, by a
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letter of the law, it is legal. So the question
was to Mike McDonald, what'd you think of that play?
And he said he said, was.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
A guy in the a gap, we need to block him.
That's pretty much that simple. But you're allowed to push down.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
They pushed down on our right guard and he wasn't
able to get to Simmons.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So McDonald knew the rule. You're allowed to push down
on the right guard because he's not the long snapper,
and you're also not hit him in head of neck area. Now,
Tomlinson sure helped him out by just falling forward like
he was tilting that way anyway. But that's the anatomy
of the failed block field goal, Mike McDonald's having none
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of it's illegal. It was we got to block the
A gap. This morning on his Coaches show, he said,
we got to be better and fundamentals on that technique
wise and blocking, we need to hold up the A
gap better than we did there. And that's the little
things that cause a loss. But again, the game was
lost way before that, Chris, as we talked about.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Oh yeah that this doesn't even matter to me at
this point.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
The crazy part is real quick. They were up seven zero.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I know that the Giants were marching, but they got
a fumble, returned it for six, had a seven to
nothing lead.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
After a ninety yard nine minute self team played drive.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
To be honest, they had all the quote unquote momentum
just ripped away from the Giants after that long drive.
They ended up scoring a touchdown and then they still
find a way to lose that lead and lose the gang.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Coming up, we're gonna talk about how Ryan Grubb just
messed up yesterday. We'll talk about the fourth down play
fourth and one in his own and why Mike McDonald
even went for it, their systemic reasons for that, and
none of them are good. Eleven o'clock Chris Francis, Fox thirteen, Seattle.
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and forty nine ers had this short turnaround. They play
Thursday night. One thing the Seahawks need to do between
now and Thursday is change how they play offense. Ryan
Grubb had fifty eight play calls yesterday as the offensive coordinator.
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Fifty one of them were passes, forty dropbacks for Gino
Smith seven times the Giants sacked him, and then the
Seahawks rush numbers looked better than they were because seventy
three yards on four scrambles by Geno Smith, including thirty
two yards on what was the last full drive before
the block field goal. By the way, Jackson, Smith and
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Jigman made a brilliant play on that. If you noticed
Chris watching on television, but in the press box, I
could see what Smith and jiggb was doing on the scramble.
Once he saw Geno Smith take off, he took two
Giants covermen with him, looking up into the blue sky,
pretending that the ball was arriving, and he kept running
a go route another forty yards down the field. And
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those are the only two defenders on that right sideline.
And when Smith and Jigger kept looking up at the
sky fake and the pass was coming, that opened up
the whole right sideline for Gino Smith to scramble for
thirty two yards and get the Seahawks in position for
the field goal attempt. I asked Smith and jigb about
that and other things after the gamecuting his drop on
third down, and he says, that's my fault. Concentration. I
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have to just a concentration era. But he said he
learned that from k Metcalf running down the field, dummying
a pass coming and allowing the quarterback to scramble. He
said he learned that from they've all seen it from
dk Metcalf. But counting the four scrambles in the seven
sacks and the forty drawbacks, that's fifty one pass calls
out of fifty eight offensive place Kenneth Walker had five carries.
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He played the entire game. He had five carries, two
for Zach Charbonnay that after the game, Mike McDonald said,
we've got to give the ball to Walker more. This
morning on his Coaches show, he said, by giving the
ball just five times to Walker, we did him quote
a disservice, and it's deja vu all over again. For
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three four years, we talked to Pete Carroll after games,
why don't you run the ball more and he'd say, yeah,
we got to run the ball more, and it never happened.
It rarely happened, time and again and again. The Seahawks
went into yesterday leading the free world in pass attempts,
and then they run, they call pass grub calls pass
play fift fifty eight ten. Now what I'd like to
try to find out today and I couldn't discern yesterday,
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and I'm going to ask again today out here in Renton,
how many of those are Gino Smith changing the play
at the line of scrimmage? How many of those are
either oars, meaning either run or pass up to the
quarterback and what he sees at the line from the defense.
That's what grubs explanation was running the ball so much
in New England. That was his explanation, a sum of Detroit,
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that that was what the Lions were giving him run
looks that they changed to pass calls. How much yesterday
the fifty one pass calls out of fifty eight was
Gino Smith changing the playout? Ask Mike McDonald out at
twelve thirty out here in Renton. But suffice to say, Chris,
if they do that against the forty nine ers, Nick
Bosa might have a career day, he might have six
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to eight sacks. They can't do it against the forty
nine ers. Is it an indictment of the offensive line
that they have so little faith that they can run
block that they won't even give Walker the ball more
than five times in a game against the fifteenth ranc
Rush team that was one in three coming in on
your home field. I mean, I noted that in the
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first quarter thirteen of the first fifteen plays yesterday were passes.
That was after eighteen of the first twenty two in
Detroit were passes. The other thing to consider here, Chris
is Gino. Smith is an essentially in a contract year.
I know his contract doesn't end until after the twenty
twenty five seasons, but the Seahawks have to make their
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decision on him before and then before next season, which
means this body of work right now, at age thirty three,
going on thirty four, is his pitch to the Seahawks
and in the rest of the league on what he
deserves in his next contract. When he has choices of
whether to run or pass, and they're giving him latitude
to change. He has said, I want the ball in
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my hands, put it in seven hands, is what he
said after New England. That's what he wants every game.
He's trying to maximize his ops right to get a
new deal. Now I'm not saying he's subverting the team's
chances of winning to get his own new contract. But
what I'm saying is, if his mentality has put the
ball in seven's hands, and you have an offensive mechanism
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that allows the quarterback the autonomy to change any play
at any time to a pass, perhaps that's coming into
play as well. But you have a running back who
the coaching staff all say is one of the best
in the league, who is, by your eye test, one
of the best at eluding tacklers and making guys miss,
who had one hundred and three yard rushing day while
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straining his oblique in the opener against Denver, who you've
waited on for almost a month to come back from
that injury. Now he's back, and you give it to
him five times and they score one offensive touchdown. They
have given the ball eighteen out of twenty two. As
I said it was pass plays in Detroit, thirteen out
of fifteen yesterday were pass plays to start the game.
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That's thirty one thirty three out of thirty nine plays
in the first half have been passes. The last two games,
the combined score, Seattle's been outscored thirty one to ten
in those first halves. It ain't working. They need to
get back to the run. They have to do it Thursday,
and if they don't, they're gonna get killed.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yes, that's the unfortunate part. They're going up against a
really good team. They're not playing like it. But the
Seals gonna have to do far more. They're basically got
to be where the Giants were on Sunday against them
versus forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
How about that man.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And the forty nine ers have owned them on the
line of scrimmage, as we know for going on three
years now. It doesn't matter whether McCaffrey or who's running
the ball, they still have the line of scrimmage until
further notice. Dominating the Seahawks. It'll be very interesting to
see if Grubbed tries to return to the run and
if he when he tries, if and when he tries,
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whether he'll stick with it when the forty nine ers
stuff it, because they're going to the forty nine Ers
are gonna stuff the run early in the game they're
going because they have for three years on this team,
and the offensive line is no, not great, shakes better
than it was last year for Seattle. So when San
Francisco stuffs at Thursday night, we'll Grub stick with it
because if he doesn't both send the boys are going
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to kill him. And we've been talking about this forever, Chris.
If they don't have a running game to set up
the play action pass and everything Grub wants to do,
they're sunk. And if they don't have a offensive line
that's passable enough to even give a moticum of run
blocking and pass protection, Grub can't do everything he wants
to do offensively. But so far this season, he's decided
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to put the season in the offense in Gino Smith's
hands at the expense, and in this morning's words of
coach Mike McDonald, the quote disservice of Kenneth Walker four nine,
four to five one. I can see the cachs coming
in about this and many other things. How do you
pass the ball fifty one times out of fifty eight
or even one hundred. I'm trying to keep it clean,
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but I know that's going to deteriorate real quick. From
the four to two five. I hear you up next,
Chris Francis, Fox thirteen seat, a long time TV guy
here in town and sitting right behind me in the
press box. Yesterday. We'll talk about what we talked about
during the game with the Seahawks and Giants. Eleven thirty
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We're gonna talk at the final block field, but we're
gonna go into depth about it. And here's how it
sounded on CBS Sports yesterday, Mister towna game.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Isaiah Simmis had.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Picked up by Chris Ford Weekly had Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
The giant sideline of reps. Unbelievable, all kinds of Seattle
calamities there the play before Jackson Smith and Jiggers dropped
what would have been a first down catch inside the
Giants thirty yard line with a minute left in the game,
the Seahawks could have been marching toward the winning touchdown
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at least could have made the kick shorter for Jason
Myers where he didn't have to kick it as low
as he did from forty seven.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yards when fifty five seconds left, you heard Isaiah Thomas
all six with four of them right up the middle.
And we'll talk about that, what the Giants did to
create that, why it was legal and it was legal,
and what the Seahawks did not do on Jason Myers's
attempt to try to send the game into overtime, a
sixty yard return of that block kick for the final
six points of the game. Twenty nine to twenty. So
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instead of twenty three to twenty three to overtime, Giants
win twenty nine to twenty. I talked to Lake and
Tomlinson after the game. You'll hear from him. He was
the right guard who got pushed down and allowed Isaiah
Simmons to jump over him and then through the a gap.
But Chris, the stories are the loss. The defense didn't
tackle more damning. They didn't play hard enough. They got
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outplayed and out wanted. And you're inher in a minute
about that. On offense, Ryan Grubb, we've talked about Ryan
Grubb's great adjustments and his game planning and what he's
exploited defenses. Well, yesterday he messed up. He called fifty
one pass plays out of fifty eight plays total offensive
plays fifty one out of fifty eight. Kenneth Walker had
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five rush attempts. They think he's one of the best
running backs in the league. They talk about how he
can break tackles in the open field. He makes guys
minus and they ate in the ball five times the
entire game. Seven sacks of Geno Smith. Here's what Geno
Smith had to say after the game. They played harder,
they wanted it more, they fought harder, they came out
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to execute it better. How damning is that they wanted
it more and they fought harder than we did. The
flip side is that the paraphrase that is that we
didn't care as much as they did. And I mean
that's the essence of football. If you don't want to
want it as the other team bad as the other team,
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and you don't work as hard as the other team,
you're gonna lose that. When he said that, I was like, really,
they wanted it more? Why didn't you want it? Why
didn't the Seahawks want to go to four and want
and have a two game lead going into the Thursday
night game against the forty nine Ers. Damning a damning
quote for a quarterback and captain of the team to
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say that another team more than they. But the forty
nine Ers blew a ten point lead in the fourth
quarter lost twenty four to twenty three at home to Arizona.
They scored only one offensive touchdown. The other touchdown was
on a scoop and score off at blockfield goal, So
the Seahawks still have the one game lead over the
forty nine Ers and the Cardinals. The top the NFC
West should be two if they had not, if they'd
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tried harder. Qulding Gino Smith Seahawks forty nine ers Thursday
five to twenty at Lumenfield. In the short week turnaround.
Byron Refy didn't play again because the hamstring. Second game
straight game that he's missed. Jenn And wos who played
just twenty snaps in his first game in twelve months,
then he got hurt again his thigh. This morning on
his coaches show, Mike McDonald said it may be longer
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than we wanted to be with the thigh injury with Nuosu.
So now he's got a new issue. After the spraining
the MCL that had him out from August twenty fourth
to October the sixth, he goes twenty plays and now
has a thigh issue that's going to may keep him
out quote longer than we want to. Coach Mike McDonald
says nothing new this morning on Riek Woolan and his
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ankle injury. He went out twice with an injured lower
right leg once in the first half, walked around the
tent the blue medical tent behind the bench, came back
in Neamiah Pritchett was playing in some key situations esterday
and the Giants targeted him with Slayton late in the game.
Then Wollan came back into the game and got hurt again.
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Trey Brown came into the game for Riek Woman in
the second quarter and they went back to more base
and man, did the Giants have a target on him.
You can tell the game plan was when twenty two
is in the game were throwing at him. Darius Slayton
had seven catches for one hundred and ten yards midway
through the fourth quarter, most of them against Trey Brown.
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And when Brown wasn't giving up catches, he was pulling
guys down and holding and of course defensive holding penalties
in the NFL automatic first downs. There was a stop,
it would have been a drive stop. There was a
gain no gain drive stop in the second quarter when
Woolan went out out and Trey Brown was called for
defensive holding down the field negated the no game third
down stop and the Giants drive continued. I don't know
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if you sockers. Last night, Trey Brown went on Ax
Twitter and said.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, that wasn't a good move.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He all been waiting four years for me to play
a bad game. You know what's funny is I heard
Hugh Mellen mentioned this earlier this morning, and he's right
on our station. Back way back when and even five
ten years ago, players would just think that and STU
about it, but they wouldn't voice it publicly for everyone
to see. Right. Yeah, But to Trey Brown's point, he
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has been good for them year over year over year.
That's so light injuries. But man, yeah, the Giants targeted
him yesterday and they put he played eighty five percent
of the snaps between replacing Woolen and how much Mike
McDonald wanted to go. Nickel and the Giants took full
advantage of that. Week five of the NFL season, the
Giants remained the NFC's only unbeaten team, beating Aaron Rodgers
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in the two and three Jets in London. Final second
interception for the Vikings in the red zone sealed that win.
Washington won again, rookie Jaden Daniels in the offense again
four hundred plus yards. The Commanders smashed the Browns to
move to four and one and leave the NFC East.
The Rams are one and four after a twenty four
to nineteen home loss to the three and two Packers.
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Your boy, Andy Dalton Chris one hundred and thirty six
yards passing, replaced by Bryce Young in the final minutes
of Carolina's thirty six to ten loss at Chicago. After
the game, Dave Canaliz, the Panthers coach, said that Dalton
is still the starting quarterback for Carolina. The Bears are
three and two. The Cowboys you mentioned scored on the
final play beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh in the Sunday
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night game twenty to seventeen. The Cowboys are three and two,
a game behind the first place Commanders. The Saints two
and two are at the four and oh Chiefs in
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Chiefs trying to keep pace with the Vikings, as is
the NFL's only unbeaten teams through five weeks. College football,
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Tony Casterer Cone and the Boys had a good time
Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Sorry about that. Let's try that again.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Eleven to go and a deeply satisfying win for the
Huskies inmid it five four three two. Tuddle takes the snap.
Here's the final play of the game. No, hey, wave
it Dad, and here come to students. You can paint
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about the W Tonight on mot Lake, Washington, twenty seven, Michigan, seventeen.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Tony Cash are going on the call here on ninety
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moon landing.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I thought it was Happy New Year.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
That three two Happy New Year.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Twenty twenty five sold out Husky Stadium. Husky's beat the
Michigan team that was obviously over rank at number ten,
twenty seven to seventeen. As Tony said, Tony will have
the hutch Husky Coaches Show with Jed Fish tonight six
to seven on nine to fifty kJ R n f AM.
Excuse me, our sister station. That's because we'll have the
Monday night game on the FM station. The Huskies play
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pregame show for Dave Softy maller A.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
That's I'm sure he's probably against that, but based on
how the pregame show has usually gone, you're you're on
the money there, so four hours before. That's tough, buddy,
that's you want to the morning show.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I know some people aren't even in at five am
Saturday morning. The four and one Washington State, Speaking of people,
aren't in a five am on Saturday morning, Washington State Cougars.
The football players are, but no, some of the students.
Four and one Washington State returns from It's by to
play at Fresno State. That's a four pm kicks Saturday
on FS one Television. The Shade Press College football top
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twenty five to Five of the top eleven teams lost
this past weekend, four of them to unranked teams. Vanderbilt
ended a forty year losing streak to Alabama. Forty years.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
They had one since I was in eighth grade against
Alabama and I'm fifty three years old. Did you see
what the students did with the goalpost? I did not. So.
Memorial stadiums undergoing right renovations. I stayed right next to
there when the Seahawks were in Nashville six weeks ago.
They're rebuilding the stadium. Only half the stadiums open for seating,
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and the students tore the goalpost down after Vanderbilt be
number one Alabama and walked it out of the stadium,
out through the campus into the Cumberland River, which is
twelve miles away. The VanderBurg campus is on the west
end of Nashville, way away from downtown, in Broadway and
(09:55):
all the honkey talk bars. They walked it right down
Broadway twelve miles and put it in the re Vanderbilt
football is funny. On next Twitter Saturday going, has anyone
seen our goalpost? Can you send us the location where
it is? They founded in the river, They pulled it
out of the out of the river. Good for those folks.
Forty year losing streak, and Vanderbilt ends up by beating Alabama.
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So the new pole has Texas in Alabama's place at
number one, Albama's former place, number two, Ohio State and
third Mianke. Oregon plays Saturday in Eugene. More about that later.
As in at eleven thirty five intend Penn State is fourth.
They play at USC Saturday. USC lost for the seventh
time in eleven games. Chris, you think that's why Jen
(10:39):
Cohen's paying Lincoln Rally ten million dollars a year now?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That might that might be some of it right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Seven of eleven games they lost at Minnesota. There's no way.
There's no way USC should be losing at Minnesota. Georgia's
fifth Alabama fell to seventh. Don't know why. Army remains
unranked at five and oh they smashed Tulsa forty nine
to seven. As I meant, Navy routed air Force to
move to five and zero. They're also still unranked. Navy
and Army are leading the American Athletic Association. You may
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not care, but that the Army Navy game could be
for a playoff spot in a league title, and they
could play again the week after Army Navy in Washington, DC,
just when McIntyre and I will be there for ninety
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third weekend of December could be Army Navy redo for
the American title, where I guess it'd be the week
before because the college football Playoffs starts the week after
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Army Navy, so you could have Army Navy back to
back weeks. Army and Navy both play Notre Dame. That's
the biggest roadblock remaining on each of their schedules. Army
doesn't play two Lane, which is the next best team
in that conference. So there's a path for Army to
be undefeated in the league before they play Navy, perhaps
twice in two weekends in December, for a spot potentially
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in the college football players.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I'm getting ahead of myself, but that's okay, Greg, why not?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
What the hell? They're five and oh the first time
and Army and nave E been five and zero at
disappoint in what nineteen forty five? Kracking begin their season
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have our pregame show or have our show actually broadcasting
the Climb Pledgerina tomorrow ten to twelve thirty, taking it
right up to Talking Kracking pregame show with Mike Benton
tomorrow afternoon. The Major League Baseball Division Series had two
crazy games yesterday at Phillies rallied a couple times to
beat the Mets. Seven to six in a back and
forth Game two that evens that best of five series.
Also in the National League, the Potteris had the Dodgers
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fans throwing stuff at their outfielders while they tied a
postseason record with six home runs, beat the Dodgers in
Los Angeles in Game two. That series also tied one
to one. Today, the Guardian's host Detroit. Cleveland's up one
oer and that American League series. The Yankees host the
Royals in Game two, with New York cup one nothing
because they got a fortuitous replay judgment on a stolen
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base right before a game winning hit. The Sounders keep
winning one nothing over Colorado Saturday that cinches the top
four seed for Seattle's eleven and a home field for
the best of three first round playoff series. In MLS,
you saw the New York Liberty eliminated defending champion in
Las Vegas Aces from the WNBA playoffs, winning a league
semi final series, and your boy Lebron James and Bronni
(13:26):
James played for the first time together yesterday. Chris, I'm
sure you saw that.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I didn't wy I'm waiting for the regular season, you
know me. How everyone is regarding the preseason for the NFL.
That's how I feel about the NBA A and watching
none of it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, well, they played Phoenix in a preseason game. I
think it was in Las Vegas, and the noteworthiness was
that Lebron James and his son played together.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah, okay, can we get to the regular season?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Please, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They're gonna be a lot of those first man first
first time they share the same Gatory tal, first time
they drink from the same Gatory cup.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Are they gonna get technicals together? That's my biggest thing.
Are they both gonna a technical foul in the same game?
That's gonna be history.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Chris, what's the most alarming thing you saw from the Seahawks?
One of many, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Oh, it was the defensive back play, and more so obviously,
I think, if I'm not mistaken, Trey Brown. He gave
up seven catches for one hundred yards through the entire season.
Through four weeks. He had only been I think it
was maybe sixty six yards on seven targets, so he
had it. He was just not ready. I'm not saying
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that Darius Slayton is a bad receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
He's in the NFL. Obviously he's really good.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
But from training camp up until week five, Trey Brown
was one of those guys that you line him up
with DK, you line him up against JSN, you line
him against Tyler Lockett, he's going to win and he's
also going to lose some. On Sunday, he didn't win
any He lost every time. He did not win any
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of those snaps against Darius Slayton. And you mentioned it earlier,
how they say, you know what, when we see twenty
two out there, Trey Brown on Darius, we are throwing
the football to Darius and they ran the same concept.
Outside of his goal ball, they ran the same en
route slant every single time. And in my head, I'm
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watching the game, I'm thinking, oh, it's third and seven. Hey,
a slant's coming tray. Maybe get inside, leverage and jump it,
make a play, bat the ball down, maybe pick it off.
I don't know, do anything but get beat inside. And
it happened over and over and over and over again.
So that is the one thing that stood out of
my mind is just wow, they just cannot get off
the field on third down. And it was in certain
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scenarios where you know, it's a pass and it's not
as if Daniel Jones is going to have all these
unique routes that are going to be happening. It's literally
going to be a dig route or a slant route.
I think there was one occasion where they threw an
out route to the tight end, but Julian Love was
able to get down there and make the stop. That
was earlier in the game. It wasn't even a third down.
But the one thing that stood out to me is
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just the play from the DB's wasn't strong enough. I
know Reek played well, but he also got banged up.
I know Spoon was okay for the most part, but
unfortunately Trey Brown was the mark.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And we talked about it.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I think against the Denver Broncos when the Broncos have
their white cornerback Riley Cooper.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know what Grub said.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
He said, Oh, Tyer Lockett versus the new guy, We're
just gonna attack him the whole entire game. And that
is how the Seahawks ended up winning that game. They
just found a matchup that they liked. Ty Lockett won
his reps one on one every time, and when they
needed a first down, guess who they went Tyer Lockett
on a mesh concept. Riley got mixed up between DK
and trying to cover that and got beat and Trey
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Brown was on the other end of that spectrum. On
Sunday against the Giants, they said, yeah, we're gonna tack
number twenty two and that's what they were successful at.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Ten catches the entire season in four games for Darris
Slayton before yesterday, and of course Slayton was being the
number two guy to the NFL's top receiver, Molik Neighbors
in those four games. Neighbors didn't play yesterday because he
was in concussion protocol, so that became Slaton became the
number one guy. Kane Jones had a brilliant row over
the shoulder to him down the sideline to Slatons for him,
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that was the best throw I've seen a quarterback in
that opposing quarterback in Lumenfield in a long time. I
thought Daniels Jones played a really.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Good Yeah you couldn't.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Yeah, I'm sure the Giants were very, very happy with
how he played that game.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But just as damning Chris, the Seahawks gave up one
hundred and seventy five yards rushing one hundred plus of
them to a third string rookie running back who's a
converted wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, that was that was that was one to one.
BF was crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Four hundred and twelve yards allowed to the Giants one
seventy five on the ground. Yeah, and that is exactly
opposite of what Mike McDonald once from his defense. It
added up to. I mean, they shouldn't even have been
in the game by the end of it. They somehow
rallied to it. We'll talk about the Giants blockfield goal next.
We're going to talk about the Giants pushing down the
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long snapper and why by NFL rules that's actually legal,
and heck, why isn't every other of an NFL team
do that? Maybe they Well now after this also, Ryan
Greup messed up yesterday. We're gonna talk about that and
more next on ninety three point three KJRFM. Hi, welcome
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the press box yesterday the Seahawks loss to the Giants
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one point thirty. Here on ninety three point three AJRFM,
we talked at length about some of the problems. There
were many couldn't fit into one segment. Let's talk about
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the blockfield goal. The Giants said they put in a
new play this Tuesday, this past Tuesday, and it had
two of their defensive tackles Dexter Lawrence on the left
side and a fellow defensive tackle on the right side,
pushing down onto the backs of Lake and Tomlinson, the
right guard in the field goal balk walking scheme for
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Seattle and the long snapper Crystal. When they pushed those
two down and created the ability for Isaiah Simmons at
six foot four to jump over the A gap, threw
it and over it and get high enough to block
Jason Myers' field goal ball scooped up by a teammate
and the Giants get a sixty yard touchdown and seal
the game. Okay, here's what the rule says. It's articles.
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It's rule number twelve, Article nine, player conduct and what
you do in a field goal situation. You cannot line
up over the long snapper. That's rule number one, and
they Giants did not do that. You cannot jump over
the long snapper's rule number two. The Giants did not
do that. They jumped through the A gap contact against
the snapper. It's widely believed that any contact against the
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long snapper after the snap is illegal, and this is
where the Giants exploited. A loopool in the roll the
rural states in verbatim that contact to the neck or
head area of the long snapper during and after the
snap is illegal. The Giants pushed into Chris Stall's back
the middle of his back below his shoulder blades, that
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by definition is legal. The NFL officials analysts that works
for the league. Walt Anderson explained this in a pool
report that we asked for after the game yesterday before
report as to hell that works as you asked for
to the NFL, Hey, we'd like to talk to the
officials or to an official representative of the league. You
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have to go through the league's PR department, a three
way call with that official, the league's PR guy, and you,
and then you get an official statement that's been pretty
much sanitized by the league and everyone's on the same
page before they even talk to the reporter. Brady Henderson
in ESPN is the pull reporter this year for the
Seahawks market. I was a couple of years ago, and
so that's how the process works. And Walt Anderson told
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Brady Henderson, the pull reporter, that because the Giants pushed
the back of Chris Stole and not the head or
neck area, that's legal. I talked to Lake and Tomlinson
after the game. He was the one who got pushed
down the right guard, and here's what he thought of
the play.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
What can you do in that situation when he's post
leverage and he just pushes it underground.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
I felt like something probably you know should have reviewed. Well,
you know, that's just something that happened, and I don't
know I have feelings about it, but he went and
how it went.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
I thought it was illegally he pushed you right of
the stating in the fourth and one, the failed fourth
and one and your own and it would happen on
that can't recall well in general offensively, it took so
long to get going. What was the issue on a
lot of screamage to anything.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
I mean, all credit to them. Did a great job
of you know, hold months to the ball, keeps us
off up the field because been good rhythm. I know,
so credited them.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Who's the message in the locker room after the game
among you guys from the coaches?
Speaker 6 (22:23):
You know, it's a bad taste. You know, we have
a short week coming up here and it's full steam
an you know we're gonna do everything we can con
bear ourselves, correct dollar mistakes and move forward to the
ear I plays in that game.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That's like in Tomlin's in the twelfth year veteran the guard.
He wanted to talk about to some extent, the block
field goal and what he thought was an illegal play.
When I walked away from that discussion, I thought he
was thinking that his contact against him was illegal. That's
what I asked him about, and then I started thinking,
I bet he thinks it's the contact on Stole it
was illegal the long snapper, and in fact, by a
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letter of the law, it is legal. So the question
was to Mike McDonald, what'd you think of that play?
And he said he said, was.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
A guy in the a gap, we need to block him.
That's pretty much that simple. But you're allowed to push down.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
They pushed down on our right guard and he wasn't
able to get to Simmons.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So McDonald knew the rule. You're allowed to push down
on the right guard because he's not the long snapper,
and you're also not hit him in head of neck area. Now,
Tomlinson sure helped him out by just falling forward like
he was tilting that way anyway. But that's the anatomy
of the failed block field goal, Mike McDonald's having none
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of it's illegal. It was we got to block the
A gap. This morning on his Coaches show, he said,
we got to be better and fundamentals on that technique
wise and blocking, we need to hold up the A
gap better than we did there. And that's the little
things that cause a loss. But again, the game was
lost way before that, Chris, as we talked about.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Oh yeah that this doesn't even matter to me at
this point.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
The crazy part is real quick. They were up seven zero.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I know that the Giants were marching, but they got
a fumble, returned it for six, had a seven to
nothing lead.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
After a ninety yard nine minute self team played drive.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
To be honest, they had all the quote unquote momentum
just ripped away from the Giants after that long drive.
They ended up scoring a touchdown and then they still
find a way to lose that lead and lose the gang.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Coming up, we're gonna talk about how Ryan Grubb just
messed up yesterday. We'll talk about the fourth down play
fourth and one in his own and why Mike McDonald
even went for it, their systemic reasons for that, and
none of them are good. Eleven o'clock Chris Francis, Fox thirteen, Seattle.
We'll talk to us eleven thirty five Factor fixtion your
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Athletic Center, Seahawks headquarters on ninety three point three kjr FM. Hi,
welcome back, Rag Beller. The news to being a Christopher
Kid with you on ninety three point three KJRFM. I'm
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back at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, my second home
from about July or January. I'll be here all week
except for the krack and opener tomorrow at the Seahawks
and forty nine ers had this short turnaround. They play
Thursday night. One thing the Seahawks need to do between
now and Thursday is change how they play offense. Ryan
Grubb had fifty eight play calls yesterday as the offensive coordinator.
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Fifty one of them were passes, forty dropbacks for Gino
Smith seven times the Giants sacked him, and then the
Seahawks rush numbers looked better than they were because seventy
three yards on four scrambles by Geno Smith, including thirty
two yards on what was the last full drive before
the block field goal. By the way, Jackson, Smith and
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Jigman made a brilliant play on that. If you noticed
Chris watching on television, but in the press box, I
could see what Smith and jiggb was doing on the scramble.
Once he saw Geno Smith take off, he took two
Giants covermen with him, looking up into the blue sky,
pretending that the ball was arriving, and he kept running
a go route another forty yards down the field. And
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those are the only two defenders on that right sideline.
And when Smith and Jigger kept looking up at the
sky fake and the pass was coming, that opened up
the whole right sideline for Gino Smith to scramble for
thirty two yards and get the Seahawks in position for
the field goal attempt. I asked Smith and jigb about
that and other things after the gamecuting his drop on
third down, and he says, that's my fault. Concentration. I
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have to just a concentration era. But he said he
learned that from k Metcalf running down the field, dummying
a pass coming and allowing the quarterback to scramble. He
said he learned that from they've all seen it from
dk Metcalf. But counting the four scrambles in the seven
sacks and the forty drawbacks, that's fifty one pass calls
out of fifty eight offensive place Kenneth Walker had five carries.
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He played the entire game. He had five carries, two
for Zach Charbonnay that after the game, Mike McDonald said,
we've got to give the ball to Walker more. This
morning on his Coaches show, he said, by giving the
ball just five times to Walker, we did him quote
a disservice, and it's deja vu all over again. For
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three four years, we talked to Pete Carroll after games,
why don't you run the ball more and he'd say, yeah,
we got to run the ball more, and it never happened.
It rarely happened, time and again and again. The Seahawks
went into yesterday leading the free world in pass attempts,
and then they run, they call pass grub calls pass
play fift fifty eight ten. Now what I'd like to
try to find out today and I couldn't discern yesterday,
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and I'm going to ask again today out here in Renton,
how many of those are Gino Smith changing the play
at the line of scrimmage? How many of those are
either oars, meaning either run or pass up to the
quarterback and what he sees at the line from the defense.
That's what grubs explanation was running the ball so much
in New England. That was his explanation, a sum of Detroit,
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that that was what the Lions were giving him run
looks that they changed to pass calls. How much yesterday
the fifty one pass calls out of fifty eight was
Gino Smith changing the playout? Ask Mike McDonald out at
twelve thirty out here in Renton. But suffice to say, Chris,
if they do that against the forty nine ers, Nick
Bosa might have a career day, he might have six
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to eight sacks. They can't do it against the forty
nine ers. Is it an indictment of the offensive line
that they have so little faith that they can run
block that they won't even give Walker the ball more
than five times in a game against the fifteenth ranc
Rush team that was one in three coming in on
your home field. I mean, I noted that in the
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first quarter thirteen of the first fifteen plays yesterday were passes.
That was after eighteen of the first twenty two in
Detroit were passes. The other thing to consider here, Chris
is Gino. Smith is an essentially in a contract year.
I know his contract doesn't end until after the twenty
twenty five seasons, but the Seahawks have to make their
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decision on him before and then before next season, which
means this body of work right now, at age thirty three,
going on thirty four, is his pitch to the Seahawks
and in the rest of the league on what he
deserves in his next contract. When he has choices of
whether to run or pass, and they're giving him latitude
to change. He has said, I want the ball in
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my hands, put it in seven hands, is what he
said after New England. That's what he wants every game.
He's trying to maximize his ops right to get a
new deal. Now I'm not saying he's subverting the team's
chances of winning to get his own new contract. But
what I'm saying is, if his mentality has put the
ball in seven's hands, and you have an offensive mechanism
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that allows the quarterback the autonomy to change any play
at any time to a pass, perhaps that's coming into
play as well. But you have a running back who
the coaching staff all say is one of the best
in the league, who is, by your eye test, one
of the best at eluding tacklers and making guys miss,
who had one hundred and three yard rushing day while
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straining his oblique in the opener against Denver, who you've
waited on for almost a month to come back from
that injury. Now he's back, and you give it to
him five times and they score one offensive touchdown. They
have given the ball eighteen out of twenty two. As
I said it was pass plays in Detroit, thirteen out
of fifteen yesterday were pass plays to start the game.
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That's thirty one thirty three out of thirty nine plays
in the first half have been passes. The last two games,
the combined score, Seattle's been outscored thirty one to ten
in those first halves. It ain't working. They need to
get back to the run. They have to do it Thursday,
and if they don't, they're gonna get killed.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yes, that's the unfortunate part. They're going up against a
really good team. They're not playing like it. But the
Seals gonna have to do far more. They're basically got
to be where the Giants were on Sunday against them
versus forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
How about that man.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And the forty nine ers have owned them on the
line of scrimmage, as we know for going on three
years now. It doesn't matter whether McCaffrey or who's running
the ball, they still have the line of scrimmage until
further notice. Dominating the Seahawks. It'll be very interesting to
see if Grubbed tries to return to the run and
if he when he tries, if and when he tries,
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whether he'll stick with it when the forty nine ers
stuff it, because they're going to the forty nine Ers
are gonna stuff the run early in the game they're
going because they have for three years on this team,
and the offensive line is no, not great, shakes better
than it was last year for Seattle. So when San
Francisco stuffs at Thursday night, we'll Grub stick with it
because if he doesn't both send the boys are going
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to kill him. And we've been talking about this forever, Chris.
If they don't have a running game to set up
the play action pass and everything Grub wants to do,
they're sunk. And if they don't have a offensive line
that's passable enough to even give a moticum of run
blocking and pass protection, Grub can't do everything he wants
to do offensively. But so far this season, he's decided
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to put the season in the offense in Gino Smith's
hands at the expense, and in this morning's words of
coach Mike McDonald, the quote disservice of Kenneth Walker four nine,
four to five one. I can see the cachs coming
in about this and many other things. How do you
pass the ball fifty one times out of fifty eight
or even one hundred. I'm trying to keep it clean,
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but I know that's going to deteriorate real quick. From
the four to two five. I hear you up next,
Chris Francis, Fox thirteen seat, a long time TV guy
here in town and sitting right behind me in the
press box. Yesterday. We'll talk about what we talked about
during the game with the Seahawks and Giants. Eleven thirty
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