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May 18, 2024 40 mins
Leave it to Beaver Podcast (Season 2 Episode 19) Wally’s Pug Nose

Self-conscious Wally (Tony Dow) resorts to a mail-order remedy to change his appearance, after his dream-girl Gloria tells him he has a "pug" nose.

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(01:47):
All right, what is going on? Everybody? Welcome to another episode of
the Leave It to Beaver Podcast.I am John and joining me as always
as my partner. Let me getin a frame here, man, mister
Stan, let's slide that over foryou a little bit. What's going on
there, my friend? Hey,just so much stuff I can't even I
can't begin to tell anybody, orwe'd be here all night long now.

(02:07):
Had a ton of work done tomy house. I just became a grandfather
again for my youngest son. Hada little baby boy, Owen Henry,
and he's a week old and oneday so I've had a chance to hang
out with him and everything else likethat. So that's been fantastic, getting
the house repainted, getting a millionmore things, seeing episodes, talking to

(02:29):
your lovely daughter, my granddaughter,who's so sweet. Had a two days
left for school. Just life isgood. Absolutely, life is good.
Very busy, how about yourself,man, Very busy as always. Life
is really wonderful. It's I reallycan't complain, man, No, I
really can't complain at all. It'sit's been a great time and wonderful things
ahead and wonderful things continuing on foreverybody. And life keeps going. It

(02:52):
great to see everybody out. Sowonderful to see him, Brenda says,
Hi, Hi, Brenda, Hi, Brian Nelson. Great to see it,
says ok K kids, it's timefor America's favorite sitcom. He had
a low V. You got tocongratulations from Brian from Brenda's from V loves
the name Owen too. Yeah,it's a very cool name. A little
irishman there. But can I takea moment for just one thing? Yeah,

(03:14):
and it's not a downer Brian mYeah, Brian passed away and I
know all the people in all theLeave It to Beaver, you know clubs
and you know groups of people,and Brian Nelson of course here I guess
there's a dear friend of Brian's aswell as well as many of all of
you before us. What a wonderful, wonderful man and are really our heartfelt

(03:42):
love and condolences. When we startedthe show, the first two people to
reach out to was Brian Nelson Jr. And Brian Hummock in the first ones.
You know, Brian, Brian wassuch a nice man and such a
ker amazingly brilliant, god so smart, real scholar. Yeah, and you
know, it broke my heart tosee it. Yeah, it really did.

(04:03):
And again not for a bummer,but everybody want to want to recognize
him lovable man, really really niceman as you folks are and everything else
like that. So God bless him, you know, and his family and
everything else. And he offered atremendous amount of nice things along with Brian
Nelson Junior and other people and insightto help us when we got started,

(04:24):
and that was nice. Everybody hasin particularly you guys. Everybody. Yes,
he was such a wonderful, wonderfulman, and I definitely broke Jones
and everybody. So many nice people, all you that come out every week
and it becomes like, you know, a long distant family member to you,
and it's it's terrible. We wereshocked. We were really hard to
talk them with that. I'm neveron Facebook and then ironically enough to know

(04:47):
you call me right now. Yeah, it's like my it's like I'm on
every couple of days or whatever likeyou. I don't. I don't spend
much time on And I saw apost and I was like, I hope
this isn't true, you know,and then you know, unfortunately I saw
it was, and I saw theJerry Mathers and his wife made a big
comment and everything. Oh I didn'tsee that. Yeah, I'm not on
Facebook so much, so you know, just really serious. And I know
Brian's wife confirmed it, So that'swhy I wouldn't have mentioned it unless I

(05:11):
saw like a confirmation from somebody onthat. But I trust all the sources
that were out there before. ButI saw that's terrible, So please forgive
me for taking a few No,I was going to mention it anyways.
First off, I wanted to mentionit. You know, a lot of
everybody else feels the same way vKim, and I know so many others
feel the same way about Brian.He was always such a wealth of knowledge
and such a wonderful person to others, and he cared so much about you

(05:31):
know, what he did. Andhis love of pizza too. I always
love to we would chat about pizzasometimes. You know, that's the old
psychologist in me. Some people arejust very, very brilliant, and Brian,
Brian was a man of high highintelligence, extremely for anybody. And
I'm sure that leave it to Beaver. Encyclopedia is still available and things like

(05:54):
that. But if you've never seenit. You have to see the detail
that he put into it was likea textbook. It's college or something like
that, or engineering to leave itto beaver textbook of everything. Yeah,
when you know my conversations with him, when he's told me about what it
took to you know, put thattogether. Yes, everything, all this
effort that it took, I meanthat was that was just so much of
his passion that he had was thoughtabout it personally. Yeah, what drives

(06:17):
them and everything else like that.What a good man. Yeah, really,
really really really you've forgotten by me. Well, he'll be talked about
here a lot on the show foryears to come, especially because we always
go back and refer to it.So I'm glad you mentioned I was going
to do the same thing. Thankyou so well. Prayers to miss mister
Hummock's family and all those you knowwho he impacted through the years. And

(06:38):
uh, we will continue the memoryon of the show here always in his
honor, and we're going to havea nice time tonight, you know,
in his honor, because that's whathe would want. Absolutely. You know.
He's also released Brian said he's alsoreleased his book Words Words just before
his passing, Well, I'm gonnadefinitely have to order that then, absolutely,
yeah, I'm definitely gonna have toorder that. Then. What a
wonderful guy and will always keep hishonor going in the right way here on

(07:00):
the show and have fun with everybodylike we do it, you know,
every week. So you know,hope everybody else is out there doing good
and let's have a nice show inBrian's honor. About today is Wally's pug
nose hit us with it. Thisis a this is a really good one,
you know, a couple lest coupleof at least the last episode I
wasn't too fond of. And Isaid to John, I hope that's not

(07:21):
a mistake when I say I don'tlike a particular episode as much as another,
because I know everybody loves the episodes. But this is a great one.
And this is where you know Wallyis up there just you know,
going about his teenage boy stuff.And he goes to school and probably something
if you're a male who's in hisforties, fifties, sixties or seventies like

(07:43):
me, you remember these days whenthings were a lot more normal. One
of the girls thinks he's cute Ihad that happen when I was in the
seventh and eighth grade and sixth grade, they said, who is that guy?
You know, believe it or not, And you know, you get
all self conscious and the girl who'sbeautiful that really is a heart throb for
all for him, and the othergirl says he has a pug nose,

(08:05):
and he becomes very self conscious andhe gets yeah, he thinks it's like
a big knock on him for it. Yes, And I don't recall a
nose harness. I don't think akid's a crazy thing. It's wild to
see it. I never saw onethose. I know. They had things
for you know, jowls and yourchin and everything, you know, which
I wish I could get now withsome seventy four. Yeah my name,

(08:26):
my chin is dropping, but allthat kind of stuff. But it was
very funny with Wally and Beaver,you know, he had hair tonic and
all this other kind of stuff.And it's a good episode. It's a
good episode. And Ward picks upon this. He sees the nose harness
and he's really concerned about it.Well, it's gonna be a fun episode.
Quick housekeeping really really fast on this. It makes sure you guys like
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(08:48):
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(09:11):
throw back into the show and thingslike that. Helps with colecting bottles on
the on the side of the roadevery night on trash Night. You know,
we can put them in a propernursing home one day when the time
comes, you know, that waywe could do it. No, we're
so close to it. The onthat and it's also available on audio and
a lot of people listen to iton audio through the week, which is
great. I think it's in aboutthirty five countries now. It's so crazy.

(09:35):
I think leave it to Beaver.I love it. It's I do
too. So, I mean,it's so crazy. I think Leave It
to Beaver has reached you know,this podcast is reached about thirty five different
countries since we started doing this.So and by the way, for those
of you, I do have tosay one thing before the show begins.
I hope I'm not taking too muchtime out here. I watch every kind
of relevant, modern, up todate show, whether it's real time on
you know, HBO or you know, all kinds of crazy shows with people

(09:58):
I cannot tell you authors coming outnow about how to get back to I
mean, I'm really sophisticated authors fromall over and speakers and everything else like
that. All the values of LeaveIt to Beaver are the stuff that they
are. They're basically saying, comeback to sure to a lot of the
things that we're seeing and leave itto Beaver. Go canuts for you,

(10:20):
barbar. I hope they win thisone for you. So I hope they
good luck to him. Cheryl Holdershis first appearance, but not as Julie
Foster, all right, and hesaid the girl plays Walleys Crust was one
of the original Mouseketeers. Yes,I didn't, I knew she looked for
me, and as Brian said,her name is Charlene Charlene or Darlene Cheryl
Holdridge. Cheryl Cheryl Holdridge. Isher name is Brian. Yes, so

(10:43):
all right, well let's get oninto this episode. We got a quick
already, we've got a quick ad. We got a quick ad. Now
for those of you who are maleswho are watching the show, do you
remember using hair tonic all the time? I remember when you gave me Vitalis.
I think it was called Vitalis.Yeah, exactly when I was a

(11:03):
kid, you gave me Vitalis andthat stuff smelled so bad. Oh I
loved Vitalis bro cream. Uh youknow a little damble do you? Then
they had groom and clean that supposedlyyou put this crap in your hair.
But there was a palmade I forgetwhat it was called, that that would
slick your hairback. You look likeBela Lagosi. Oh, by lord,

(11:24):
Oh that's what people wanted. Theywanted to have these big slick, slick
dues on the side. Oh yeah, the word you know word slicked his
hair back? Yes, it isslick back. He didn't have any butts
in his pocket, you know,that is what Brian said, dippity do.
Do you remember dippity do? Yeah, that was for females, although
guys could use it. I usedit when I was in the military.
Really, yes, I could groubmy hair longer and I would dippity do

(11:45):
it down. Look at that magazine. Wards reading was not reading the magazine.
What is it? He's working?Look at this how they're working together.
We talked about that. There's Junereading. He's teaching him his vocabulary.
Okay, so he's doing spelling withhim. It's like a spelling workbook.
Yes, but can you imagine thatif you were doing this nowadays?

(12:11):
You're sitting in the in the studyand your father has you there with the
book, and then mother's sitting there. They say, you're grilling this kid.
He needs a safe space. I'mnot gonna I did this with my
kids weekend and week out. You'relike, I did you know? Like
you know I did this with buyingup until you know. My rule was
always still the sixth grade on thingslike that, and when they went to

(12:31):
the sixth grade, that's when youwere on your own. If you needed
help, come to me. Butyou know, they usually had their habits
developed well enough. Spelling was alwaysone. Hello Deborah, nice to see
you tonight. Great to see whatthis is. Listen to this rule he
has here he's talking to Whalley's friend. No one. No one answers phone

(13:03):
calls till after homeworking. Their homeworkis done. Now watch this. There's
going to be a close up.If you're watching this at home, and
watch I picked this up today.I couldn't believe it. Watch what June
is reading. This is the familyunit. Now this is all funny.
The good shepherd. What do youthink that's about? Probably religion, of

(13:28):
course, ye Ward was a ministerin real life. But look at the
dynamic there. They're all sitting thereas a family working on a school reading
a religious book, this book,but just being a good ship. This
is me. You're looking look atthat now, I bet you that stuff

(13:48):
smells awful. Didn't know he's talkingto a sheep got his landeline. Then
they couldn't use the term pimple,so he said, that's in case you
gets something things on it was itlike a taboo word or something. Oh
you couldn't use that on television day? Why? Because she just couldn't say
temple hmm. Interesting, it wasnasty. They didn't want you're talking.

(14:09):
You never see a toilet there?Amen, how are you tonied, buddy?
I am good to see as hisHello, guys, this is amen.
Sign an into it for tonight.I'm so sorry for the loss of
mister Brian Hummock and his passing.Rest in peace, mister Hummock. Yes,
absolutely aimen, very sad. Prayersto Brian's family, and he's always
appreciative of all the amazing things hedid. I think this is why Brian

(14:33):
Hummick liked this so much too,because my understanding, Brian was a pretty
religious guy. And look at theyou. They always sneak something in here
in a good way. Psychology,religion, good philosophy. Well now lord,
you know, lord forbid you mentionedanything about religion now in today's day
and age. And somebody here,yes, well, we always like to

(14:54):
throw certain things out there because wewere believers in a certain way. We're
not telling you abody to be believe, we're not telling about what to do,
but man denying it either. Yeah, people should have the right to
talk about it. Sure, lookat this dynamic though, can you imagine
today? Forgive me, guys,well, don't forgive me. I hope,
I hope there's what you love aboutthe show. I can't remember taking
a phone call my mother and fatherwere sister. Are people listening, yeah

(15:16):
to the call and everybody's ready tolaugh at you or see what's going on?
Or was giving him the eyeball therea little bit though, because you
could see he was very salty abouthim getting that called during that time,
like it was some huge emergency.June always asks him these very questions with

(15:37):
no filters. Did everybody take theirlunch primarily to school? No? No,
okay, no I did, becausewell, yeah, most of the
kids did. They didn't want toeat their crappy lunch in school. Yeah.
My daughter hates it still, andI'm always like, well, you
want me to make you lunch?And she's like, no, that's darky,
oh no, And I'm like,all right, then we all means
no. Grandma would make us,you know, make me a delicious lunch

(15:58):
and put it in there and everything. I miss not being able to come
home till the eighth grade. Iused to walk to school. Can you
imagine walk up the block to myschool? It'd be nice. I did
it for the first five years.I didn't want to eat this. Look
at how meticulous it is at theschool there though, Like with how they're
serving it. You got all that, you got all the cafeteria monitors and

(16:18):
everything. Now, see, whenI was a kid, I don't know
about you guys, if you wereeating in the cafeteria, we would think
all that food is like dirty andcrappy. I always thought it wouldn't be
like, you know, the goodhome cooked foods you get, Brian says.
Brian and I spoke a lot aboutleab it to beever and how it
inserted a lot about God, whichwe both appreciated. Yeah, and that
was one of the things that thestamps that you see on the show one

(16:40):
hundred percent. You know, lookat this when the guys with Lumpy here,
who's in the third time he's asophomore. Yeah, I don't know.
This is a This show was abouttribal rights with teenage boys. They're
calling him a chicken because the girlis obviously has told somebody that he's cute.

(17:00):
I always wish my mother made lunch, but most of the time she
had me by lunch. Yeah,Oh, she is very pretty. He
is very pretty. Yes, shesmiled at him. Barbara said, brown
bag lunch for me. No cafeteriauntil high school. Same thing. Well,

(17:22):
or lumpy man Like when you seeLumpy on here with the rest of
the kids, he looks like he'sforty. Does he looks like Frank Bank
looks like he's like forty? Youknow, Now I had a girl in
the what is he know he's afreshman or he's a freshman here? I
think, yeah, I had agirl, a girl Andrea that looked like
her. I was another girlfriend.Netline and tell that I just loved.

(17:49):
While he's going over now they calledhim a chicken, so he's going over
to assert his manliness over there andgo see what she thinks. She's actually
a very gorgeous kid. Brian says, Notice Gloria looks way different than Julie

(18:11):
Foster. Different makeup, good pickup. She looks a lot older than the
other kids too. Yeah, youcould say, yeah, she looks like
she's about eighteen or nineteen. Here, Chester looks like he's about uh you
know, yeah, he looks likehe's about twelve. You know, you
always had if you were a normalguy like Wally, and girls started to

(18:33):
get interested in you. Your goofyfriends, you know, the ones who
maybe were not getting a gun.Yeah, they were always trying to mess
it up. I meant Tooey.I'm sorry there, he said too.
He looks like he's about twelve.He didn't look looking at him, you
know, the way they portray himon the show. Doesn't look like he
gets many dates. Same with Lumpy. Yes, there's always the one friend

(18:55):
that you know that you had thatit was easier to be around. You
know, there's always one friend inthe group easier to be around that you
didn't have to worry about with withyou know who she looks like, by
the way, excuse me, shelooks like Meg Foster from Top Gun,
Meg Ryan, Meg Ryan Ryan,Yes, Meg Ryan. Yeah, she

(19:15):
kind of does that more than aYeah, there's definitely a resemblance too.
Yes, yeah, that's good.Shus a little bit like Melanie Griffith too.
Yeah that's a good pickup. Isee more Melanie Griffith than Meg Grian.
And yeah, that's a good pickup. Well, if she was,
if she was with Walt Disney,he had very beautiful kids, handsome kids
all, you know, just reallyFrancis Tiger remained good friends with Buddy hart

(19:41):
Now and his buddy Joe Hooker.That's nice to see that they remain,
you know, good friends on theseshows. I know Jerry and Tony war
for a lifetime too. It's alwaysgreat to see that with people, and
you know, when you spend thatmuch time and it's such an integral part
of their lives growing up in theircareers to go up and still be friendly
with one another. You know what'sgreat about this show and great about episodes
like this. To me, thisis where Wally and even though it's a

(20:04):
very mild series was very simple fun. This is really profound stuff. If
you were a teenage boy or ateenage girl, this was very informative.
This was very helpful, so youwould use it for like advice on your
own. Absolutely, when do yousee what you was warn telling the stories
and stuff like that and everything elselike that? How many times would you

(20:26):
know a girl say to you,what's the matter with your ears? Or
what's that on your face? Ifyou got a pimple or something like that,
or hey, you don't have sideburns, or you don't you know,
you don't have a thick mustache oranything else like that. The Pug knows,
and he's so worried about it.Oh, Tony, he was a
handsome kid. He was a handsomekid, for sure. He must have

(20:47):
been a teen heart throb at thetime for the you know guy in the
magazine handsome Man. His artwork wasamazing, you know that that's what he
did. Of course, you knowin his later life, but his artwork
was pheno He was a hell ofa sculptor. Right, This was a
big deal waiting for the Postman.You look at the uniform on the Postman
too. Yeah, I can't waitto see this. This this nose contraption

(21:18):
that he puts on. I wouldsend away for things secretly sometimes and you
have to how would you think thiswould work a kid? Yeah, it
looks like that head gear almost,but it's on the nose that people were,
you know, the Francos or whateverthey call them. I actually sent
away for fifty cents or a dollarfor those X ray vision glasses on the

(21:40):
back of the U from the backof the How are they when they came
in? They're just they're junk.They're just like they have a little tiny
hole in them. I thought Iwas going to be able to see for
walls, the good old days whenyou'd send out for things in the mail.
Yes, and the worms that you'dlight up. You have the little

(22:02):
castles and you put them in theof an ashtray if somebody put the cigarette
out, and then they would startto burn. The big worms were something
that you all set out for askids, and uh buzzer were excited.
Yeah, and the uh yeah,you shake people's hand and it was that
who the cushion, fake poop,fake vomit. Do you remember when I
was a kid and we were inHilton Head Islands, South Carolina. We
went to the magic store and yougot you let you gave us money and

(22:27):
you're with us, Mom. Wasn'tthere fingerings? No? The fake cigarettes?
Oh yeah, And you told usto go outside and pretend like we
were smoking. And it had likecaalculm powder in it. And this lady,
this older woman, came up tous. It was so mad.
And then mom saw us out thereand she wanted to kill you. We
should get those at the candy store. I had them all. No,

(22:48):
it was it was yeah, butit was the ones that you could it
would look like you were going smoke, yes, And it had a bright.
We'd be out there and there forgetthis old lady set out and you
were watching like it was the funniestthing in the world. This old lady
comes up to us and she goes, don't be quick. Too quick to
pick up on that habit, andthen mom wanted to murder you for it.
I hate to tell you, guys. I was the director of a
children's clinic for over twenty years,the High Rest Birth Clinic in New York.

(23:10):
It was it still is, veryfamous clinic in New York. And
as the director, I would goout there and meet all the families,
and we'd have little kids that wouldcome in and I would get a big
kick out of giving them candy cigarettes. I got a picture you doing,
and the social workers would have aship fit and he used that line.
Yeah, they said you can't givethem candy cigarettes. I said, sure,
I can't. I'm the director.Now what would they do to you

(23:33):
for that? Now? They wouldfire me? Uh huh laugh. I
would laugh my behind off. Vsaid we were more gullible back then.
Brian says, answer, my auntfarm he sent out for yes, and
Ever says, kind of like theprojector Wally and Bieber got for selling perfume.
Yes, yes, right, saidmy buddy had one of those fake
cigarettes. I came out of thehouse, so my mom came to pick

(23:53):
me up. She was not happy. Those are the good old days,
right. Do you remember the littlesea horses you could buy also, like
at the ant you put them inyour your aquariums or whatever. Right,
they'd lived for about three days.Whoop, he's coming in here now,
Beaver's coming home. The thing thatI loved was to buy sneezing powder.

(24:14):
Oh yeah, I actually got introuble with that in school. Well he
sever he's looking, he's snooping.I would do this with my brothers and
sisters. I just loved this episode, right instead sea monkeys? Yes,
yes, sea monkeys. Brian,you got it? That Beaver's putting this

(24:34):
thing on. Yeah, it lookslike a jock strap all this it actually
does. Oh boy, where'd yougo? Ward is just fantastic in this.

(25:02):
You know, he's fantastic with everything, really is you know, my
entire life. I don't know ifyou guys have been this way, John
can tell you that I'm not makingthis up. If people said, where
would you go? What would youdo? If you had all the money
in the world, I would tryand find a town like this and have
a little tiny house like that,picket fence absolutely, and with a lawnmower

(25:22):
where you could put Yeah, Iwould. I don't want to go back
in the way back machine, butman I could live a simple life like
that. I would be in ahog hevin mm hm. We kind of
do live in a town like thatin a lot of ways though. Even
the house here, it's pretty straightforward, pretty comfortable, pretty just pretty much
designed that way simple. Brian says, I bought those at a Ben Franklin

(25:45):
for a buck, and Devas says, there is still a Ben Franklin and
making Missouri. What is Ben Franklin. I don't know what is that,
guys, I don't know. Idon't know that story. I never heard
of that Is it like a likea like a like a you know,
like a convenience store or something.I've never heard of that. It's the
great thing about doing a show likepeople that have all across the world in

(26:07):
different places. This is so coolwith this show, this episode, how
they are so involved in Look atHe's gonna ponder this now he's war this
is gonna drive him nuts. He'supset too. You can see his mother
and him why because they always relateto some incident in his childhood. It's
a small department store, Oh,very nice, probably like a John's bargain

(26:32):
story years ago, or berts he'ssuch a nice looking boy. Yes,
here's where he goes back about itfor weeks. Father, the other guy's
psychology, he is, you're supposedto have bid It's a good logic right

(26:57):
there. Yes, did you guysever have that? Did you have ever
some kind of little physical thing orwhatever, you had a bad haircut or
you know, you go through adifferent stage as a teenager. I remember
having some money. You go througha period of having some acne, you
know, my hormones changing. Andwe were at a family event and my

(27:18):
stupid sister Carol and they are soldresting piece and she says, what's the
matter with you? What do youhave acne? Like the store acting?
I said, what kind of adope barre you? Why would you say
such a thing? Beverly Hey,Beverly says, was a great one.
We all had an issue with herlooks. Every kid has had that at
some point for sure. Of course, Ryan said, it's kind of like
a small Walgreens, but no pharmacy. Aim And says, I'm sorry for

(27:41):
you, Brian. All right nowthey're sleeping and Ward's going to creep in
here to go see what it lookslike on him in the middle of the
US. I don't think there's anykid out there that at some point didn't
have a moment where they were questioning, you know, their their looks or
something that they had as a kid. At me though, I love that,
yeah, very very I really appreciatedthat Beaver. Isn't that amazing,

(28:11):
Like he'll tell him not to listen, like he thinks he's not gonna lisen
like he's not gonna hear him whenhe's two feet away. Oh God,
but see Ward's doing it the niceway. Ward always does it the nice

(28:34):
way. It's what a good man. Brand said, I had chick lit
teeth. That was what that waswhat he heard, chick lit teeth.
I always got my nose too,because we have we have the Wangland nose.
I don't I like my big nose. Hey, I don't care.
Call me a punk nose, bignose, big ears, big head,
whatever, never bothered me. Ithink pushes his nose down so he doesn't

(29:03):
look like a pig. Yes,pugs are some of the cutest dogs in
the world to me. Though,Like with the pugs, Bet you should
I mention that it's so weird,like to think he's in high school here
and it's probably about eight thirty atnight and they're in bed. Yep,
you know this one particular episode,this is just one of my This has

(29:29):
so many dynamics of real family,even though they're doing it for a TV
show. This reminds me of mewith my brothers and sisters just loving each
other and just being funny and nosinginto each other's business. And when my
mother and father would be very kindand understanding towards me or something like that,
and they could be this way exactly, particularly my mother would your brothers

(29:52):
and sisters clown on you a lotabout things because you were the youngest a
little bit. They loved me alot, you know, and ignored me
a lot because there was such adifference in age. I was an piece
of little piece of entertainment to them. Dumbbo is what he's telling him.
People would say about him right here, Oh how come it didn't work?

(30:25):
Bieber's digging himself a grave tonight.Now this is another one where kids just
are painfully honest. You see todaywe'd say that Ward is a helicopter parents,
he's codependent. I just think he'sa good dad. I'd have to

(30:49):
say the same thing. I don'tthink there's anything about being a code dependent
in anyway. He's just being agood dad and just let him figure out.
Some people say, let him figureit out on his own. You
don't have to. He didn't askyou for all that information. You're making
a fel know he's trying to bea good father. I mean, you
know you don't want to. Justyou're there to guide people, just like
her, the good shepherd. I'moh, no, he's not done.

(31:22):
Now he's doing it. He's doinghis ears, poor guy. A little
bit of different school situations. Briansaid, we had a kid in high
school with figures whom we call Dumbo. I said to a remark about him

(31:45):
flying home, yes, I know, not nice, and slammed me up
against the locker and said forcefully,I can't fly. Oh I love it.
I see the meg Ryan Moore nowthan the Melanie Griffith that you mention
it. I can remember and Idon't know if you guys can with a

(32:10):
beautiful girl like that in school thatI would be so taken with and so
like you're supposed to be sure thatif I would, if I was him
right now in school with you know, like with a girl like that,
and I can remember girls like that, it would literally take my breath away.
It was whatever hormones were going throughmy body. I was just on

(32:30):
cloud number eleven about cloud number nine. Needless to say, I never said
it again. Yes, we alllearned our lessons on those things. Sometimes.
See, she likes him for howI is. She would you didn't
mean it as a disrespectful thing tohim, No, It's something she thought

(32:51):
was cute on And they don't understandthe mating rituals. This is the beginning
of it. They don't understand therituals. She just wanted his attention.
She would say anything, have abuck, knows you have And she thought
it was cute, you know kindof thing. Well, he's some sort

(33:15):
of a dance but the boy don'ttake the girls they meet them there she's
so beaming now over and look ather, so sweet. This this episode
just makes me want to cry.It's just so darn sweet. Look at
her smile, her hands, theway she has like a mother's hands.
The watch from years ago reminds meof Grandma a little bit. Well,

(33:40):
look kind of nice. He looksin his suit. He's going to the
dance in a suit. I loveit. Man. Look at Beaver smiling
too, though he's doping on hisbrother. I'm not saying the world is
a bad place, but them.There were families like this. There were
times in famies, and I'm sureI hope there still are. By yourself,

(34:05):
a man live this is sweet likeit. While he's logic, the
kid's logic. It always is alwaysgreat, and it's true. They don't
They don't want you to fool aroundwith it. They only want you going
so far with these girls and guys. Look at Beaver just like beaming over
his brother too. And he sitsthere in an episode like this, he's

(34:29):
learning all the steps that he's goingto be doing. He's picking it up
for what he want, what hewent through while he's living in and Beaver's
watching so when it happens to him, that's the continuity of families, step
by step, piece by piece.That's when society has continuity. It's not
some crazy mixed up ball of confusion. And he's walking to the dance too.

(34:58):
Dad's not taking him, her mom'snot taking him. Look at the
kiss he does gave. That wassweet. Well, why is Ward upset?
He's upset because while he didn't changebecause of anything he said, because
of the girl. Of course,h one's got his evening paper out though.

(35:28):
Sure. Oh well, Beaver wasat the age when the girls to
get self conscious. I always sayit every episode. Hugh Bamont is just

(35:50):
so amazing. Yes he is,what a what a remarkable actor. Yes,
I mean all of them are,but just incredible, just incredible.
His smile will like light your worldup when you see him, you know,
and you just listen to him.Yeah, this is where Jerry Manners
is perfectly adorable. Oh he's phenomenal. All of the characters in this show,

(36:17):
they'll play a great part. Youknow. It's the beautiful part about
the show. It's why it's avery timeless show because it has it has
those characters that are just ones you'llnever forget. Here he is being a
minister again, Tim That's what's onthe inside. No, that's what you
know, not on the outside.Mm hm ah, he's coming home.

(36:40):
He's got She's got the picture ofmilk and the sandwiches for him because he
didn't eat his dinner. Look ather giving him the nude. She wants
some information. I guess this isreally cute. Indian wrestled anything to just

(37:08):
have contact the He wasn't going todo anything sexual or anything like that.
He just wanted to get close toher. Yep, great episode. Now
some people would say, come on, you gotta be kidding. The people
don't do that. You know theywouldn't. India. Actually you did,
at least when I was a kid. You did have some crazy excuses to

(37:30):
kind of wrestle with a girl.And you know, you couldn't do other
kinds of things. You just wantto get close to her, right And
since we had the Milwaukee Journals orevening paper up until late nineties, the
Milwaukee Sentinel. Boy, the olddays, isn't having that. I never
remember that as a kid at all. Yeah, that was the morning paper.
He's at the Sentinel. What agreat episode that was though. Yeah.
I liked it. Yeah, Iliked it. I hope you guys

(37:50):
liked it too. Yeah, thatwas a great. That was That was
That was a really good moments inthere. And I think it's something that
everybody experienced, which is why it'sso you know, it's time, it's
timeless. But this is developmental psychologyand action right here. Oh absolutely,
man. Well he even mentions itin the show, you know, tonight,
even mentions it there, you know, when he's talking about the psychology
of certain things. So well,the next episode is called Beaver's Pigeons.

(38:14):
I don't remember that one. Iremember it somewhat. And I had a
friend, Tommy Capasso, who hadpigeons right down on the block for me,
right a couple of houses down.His father had pigeons. It's a
big deal, and it was sosoothing to go in the pigeon cage.
Stunk and you hear the pigeons go, very soothing, very sweet. I
enjoyed the Wally centered episodes. Ienjoyed the program. Oh thanks Brenda,

(38:37):
thank you everybody for coming out.Wonderful time as always, And he closes
the thoughts tonight, my friend,just how lucky we all are that were
all alive and have a lot ofgood and bad things and all kinds of
things in between. That are happeningto us, but to these kind of
shows and just being with you guys, you know, just lets me realize

(38:57):
how jarn blessed I am. It'snice to have people all over the country,
all over the world. This wasmy lovely family and new little additions
to thanks to be very grateful for. I'm grateful that I had a chance
to grow up in days like thatand can look back on it with you
guys. Absolutely, And I'm nota guy who lives to go back in
the way back machine, but it'sit really is a joy. It's I

(39:19):
really privileged to have your time andattention on the shows. Absolutely, we
love doing it every week and therapeuticfor me. I feel wonderful every time,
you know, we do a show. M I hope you guys feel
the same way. It's just nice. It's genuine, always is and it's
always a wonderful time with everybody thatjoins us each and every week. It's
it's always an honor and a privilege. Bright says, I wanted a pet.

(39:40):
I trapped a robin. I trappeda robin of the milk rates cat,
he said, name birds after theirteachers. He said, glad to
have been a boomer and and mybuddy would let them go. Yes,
well, next week it will bea fun episode when we look at Bieber's
pigeons. Then yeah, so allright everybody, Well we're going to sign
off for the week. We hopeyou have a great week. We hope

(40:00):
you have a great day whenever you'rewatching this, a great night, a
great evening morning, whenever people arechecking this out. And we absolutely are
so happy that you joined us.And we can't thank you enough for your
time in coming out and joining usalmost every Saturday night when we're here.
Yeah, and we so we sototally appreciate it. So for Stan,
I'm John. We are out ofhere. We'll see you guys again next

(40:22):
week, all right, right hereon the Leave It to Beaver Podcast.
We love you and God bless
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