September 28, 2024 • 39 mins
Leave it to Beaver Podcast (Season 2 Episode 28) Beaver’s Hero
Beaver tells his class that Ward was a big hero in the Second World War, but the boys find out his wartime experience wasn't that exciting.
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Beaver tells his class that Ward was a big hero in the Second World War, but the boys find out his wartime experience wasn't that exciting.
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
M M. Well, happy Saturday to everybody. I hope everybody
(01:51):
is doing wonderful. I am John, and of course I
am here with my partner, mister stan Stan. How are
you tonight. I'm doing great. I'm doing great in this
rainy evening in New York. Are you doing so good?
You could jump up and down and do it and
do a backflip. I don't think I could do a backflip.
I think you could now. I don't think I.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Could do a backflip and shell Dad do the backflip
on the air tonight. Not tonight, man, unless you want
to give Dad the wacky Leaders.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, it might be a perfect night for it. With
all the rain that's going on. Well, I hope everybody's
staying safe because man, we got the hurricane Heleen going
on right now. Just everybody down in Florida and South Carolina,
North Carolina, everywhere. I hope everybody's staying safe. And it's
been some wild weather this week.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah up here too. Yeah, been raining, just an absolute
ton for us. A little bit, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So what's doing exciting in life? You know? Acting classes,
star and a lot of busy stuff at home. A
lot of you know, golf, a lot of stuff with
the family. You know, we had your.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Daughter's birthday last week and all that kind of good stuff.
And just a lot of just a lot of interesting
things done, a lot of busy stuff. Uh, just keeping busy,
like board like award tinker.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, you got to you got to earn that corner office. Yeah,
I am. You got to earn that corner office with
restoring tools and everything else like that, as you will know,
redoing my garage and shop and stuff like this. A
lot of work.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well it's good, it's pretty busy. I'm glad though. Well
we missed everybody last couple of weeks. It's uh, you know,
we've had a lot going on. It's been busy and
stuff and uh, you know, we're back in action here
the next couple of weeks. But we do our we
do our best to try to make it almost every
week we can. But we got, you know, a lot
of things going on in life too. I work a lot,
you know, Dad's got a lot going on. So it's
my anniversary kind of, I know. So next happy first
(03:36):
anniversary to you and mom. Yes, you know you guys,
marry one year. One year. It's been they've been they've
been a wild and wacky couple for the last twenty
eight years, but only been married for a year. I'm
lying through my teeth. I'm sorry. I'm just joking. But yeah,
happy anniversary, thank you, thank you very much. Twenty six years.
How does it feel to be married twenty six years
to your lovely brother? Like, it's twenty six years.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
My wife just stopped smoking, so it's uh, she's one cigarettes.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Man. We could do uh, we could do a leave
it to beaver on that one. She needs a button,
you need some nicorette, you know, she needs a patch,
she needs to stop firing up the sleeper.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
She doesn't use any of that stuff. So it's just sure,
I don't know, she really doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
One person who gets all of her venomine you me
Ward the psychologist.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's what That's what you get when when you're the partner. Yeah,
when they're when they're going through something, that's what you
get when you're the partner. So that's true. It's all good. Well,
it's check into the comments. I think I got everything
shared out to everybody. Welcome everybody. I hope everybody is
doing great. Once again, let's check in and see who
we got. Hi, Kathy, how are you? Kathy? Devorah? Hello?
Keep keep all impacted by Helene and your prayers. East
(04:53):
Tennessee has been hit very hard. Thanks absolutely, Barbara Stark.
Happy Saturday, everybody. Brenda, It's hello everyone, Eva, Hello Devra,
Happy anniversary. Brenda said the same, Thank you so much.
I'll see but make it mom. Mom should be the
one that gets happy, happy anniversaries, because man, keep it.
(05:15):
She gets the happy anniversaries. Yes, she's the good ones. Wow,
some people think maybe maybe not right. It all depends.
Today's been a rough one. Well, we got a great
episode tonight that we got Beater's hero. Yes, this is
a cute one. Tell us about it. It's, you know,
the typical stuff. Mister wallet Wallet I think is the
(05:38):
assistant principles teaching class. He's filling in and he's a
great person for discussions.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And in the class he starts talking about the World
War two and Judy and I think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Uh, not Chester, not Whitey the guy whose father was
the actor Oh Gilbert. Yeah, Gilbrady says his father was
a big hero, and then Judy says her father was
a hero.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And then Beaver makes up this thing about his father
being a hero. He's got a whole big trunk or
he's got a whole bunch of weapons and different.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Things like that. And Ward's really a CEB though, right,
He's a B which is the you know, the naval engineers. Yeah,
they're building things and doing stuff, you know, definitely not
combat guys.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh no, they were a lot of combat, but he wasn't,
you know. And you can guess what it is. Well,
Beaver makes up this big tail, and of course he
gets pinned.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Mister Willet says, hey, why don't you bring some of
that stuff in tomorrow discussion afterwards? Can you imagine this?
I was back then, he says, But check with your father.
There could be something dangerous in there, you know, with whatever. Now,
what was he like bringing knives and stuff? Well, I
guess this was. This series was in the fifties. I mean,
(06:54):
all these guys brought home and you know this was
still fresh.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Fairly you were allowed to send home guns and nights
and stuff like that. Yeah, ordnance from overseas, so you
know that they show that he has some wisdom. But
to make a long story short, it's a very funny
thing because he finds out that his father wasn't a hero,
doesn't have anything like that, and he's going to look
(07:17):
like a boob the next.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Day in class. And it's a very sweet thing. They
find wards old CB box and you know, reminists a
little bit. Well it goes from there. They come up
with a plan and Ward kind of fixes it. It's
an interesting one. You know, June has pictures in there
her and she's young, and you know Beaver's worried, worried,
worried about the thing as usual, and you know it's
making up a big tail.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And mister will is the guy who plays Andy one
of the other things, the guy who drinks.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, he really was. He's had a few. He's
had a few roles throughout the course of the show,
which we've talked about before that you see a lot
of the the actors recycle around.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yes, he was also a very famous character actor, and
he was in Stanley Kramer's very famous movie Inherit the
Wind okay about the Scopes Monkey Trail in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I believe he had a pretty big part in that one. Okay,
so interesting, interesting guy. All right, Well, let's get on
much of a show now. Let's get into it man,
But before we get into it, make sure you guys
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(08:26):
as well. All right, that's all I got. Let's get
on into it. And whatever you do, don't start smoking.
Not like mom. She's a troublemaker. Oh boy, she comes
when she comes down. When the camera goes off, it's
over for you, man. I'm pretty worried. You better be.
I'm running me too. I'm running. Let me luwer this
(08:46):
volume here. There you go. This is episode twenty eight,
season two. Yes it is. I think we got thirty seven.
We got nine episodes left and then we're on to
season three. It's been almost two years that we've been
(09:07):
doing it. Yes, it's been a long time. We've watched
a lot of Beaber episodes over the last couple of years.
Quick commercial from here we go. That mixed sandwich right there,
whatever that is looks pretty good. A steak and an
egg and cheese bagel from McDonald's Fans not the best
thing for you. Probably not. They can taste pretty good.
(09:30):
Probably probably not. So are you guys having a nice uh?
I guess it's the beginning of fall? Yeah, the beginning
of false guess. Yeah, I think we're already in fall now. Yes,
Daylight Saving Time is coming up in November. We've got
Halloween coming and all that kind of good stuff. Are
you a Halloween fan? No? I'm not either. It's not
a big deal for me. Yeah. Same here.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Actually Thanksgiving is not a big big deal for me.
I like Thanksgivings.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
The big one for me is Christmas. Oh you're you're
the Christmas King. I am the Christmas King.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
My favorite book in the whole world is a Christmas
Carol Charles Dickens.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
If I have to take one book with me, that
would be it. All right, we're coming off the commercial.
Now there's the house. I love it all. He's getting
all jazzed up. Yeah, I can remember those days. Then there.
What's he using on his tie? Is he using a pencil?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah? I've never seen anybody do that, but he wants to.
He's not.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
He doesn't have a wins or not. He's using a
different kind of a NASA. He wants to get it
real tight up there and have a little space.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I've never seen that use. I've never seen that trick.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
But button down shirts like that were all the rage,
you know, That's that's what people used.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
To Why is he wearing a tie going to school though?
School pictures? School pictures gotcha? Oh yeah? Would it have
been rare to have? And I'm not trying to be
sexist Hereius is the times Missus Rayburn was the principal
as a woman. Would it be rare for a man
to be working for a woman at that period of time? No?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
No, no, but you would probably have been the other
way around. I don't remember any of the principals being women. Yeah,
or a system principles. What about you all out there?
You know, what was your principal at that time?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
If you if you were born in the fifties, sixties,
or seventies, you know, did you have a male principal
a female principal? It had to have been a little
rare at this point in time. For Missus n When
I was in grade school, the principal was a male
and the assistant principle was a female.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Missus Friedman yes, and they would like, as you can
see here, they're you know, they were from the teaching
staff originally, but so they go back and fill in.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh, yeah, that's that's definitely. Yes, Yeah, that's definitely. He
also played Captain Jack. No, that was I give you
Cannon played was it? Yes? No? Yes, it was not him. Oh,
Captain Jack was Ward's brother. In a later episode on
Uncle Billy, he played Uncle Billy. He played Uncle Billy.
(12:16):
Later on Let's See, Doug Derby said, had many women
principals from grade school through high school at that time.
What ye were you born, Doug, I'm interested. It's very
interesting to me to see the change of times and
how they as you know, especially at that period of time.
Barbara said, born in the sixties, and all of my
(12:37):
principals were men from graderade one through twelve. All right,
Doug said, nineteen sixty eight. He graduates the same as you.
Kathy said, yeah, he played the music teacher. Absolutely. Now
I remember that's when Beaver was awful, Kathy, right, he
was awful in the band.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Well, here's the situation that they're in now that I
told you about before. They're in class and they're all
talking about their father's being war heroes.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And they're always kind of battling with each other. It's
always competitive, you know, and especially at that time, he
knows whose parent what did what? You know, whose parent
was something cooler than the other. And here's the one
girl everybody hates her. She has, she has taking a
list of who was talking? Loore going to rip it
(13:32):
up and throw it away. Look at the cuffs. Oh
my god, look at whites. That's what I'm saying. Wow. Yes,
the cuffs on whiteis pants there are bigger than Larry Mondelo's. Yes,
the haircuts always cracked me up. Like if you look
at his hair, like, look at it. It's got that
(13:53):
one little chunk that's like put forward in his hair.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Actually, they would the point comb your hair so that
you would comb over uh huh, and we go for lie.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It would be that way. See Brenda said, I had
a male principle, and I was born in nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
All right, oh, you're just kids. I was born in
nineteen fifty. You and Doug are I think the oldest
one is here tonight so far? Maybe Kathy, I think
is the same age as you too.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, nineteen fifty white. He's such a good antagonist. Then too.
Every class has a Judy hens Flower though some version
of yeah, yes always there's always some know it all
(14:39):
in the class and some pain in the ass like
her that tattles on everybody. Yes, can you believe the
difference today?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I've been waiting for him to say this, can you
would you mind with all the school shootings and things
like that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm really not fooling you.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I don't I mean to make this sound inappropriate. I
had a family that moved in an area to our school,
the im Hofs.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
They were from Germany, so this must have been about
nineteen fifty five nineteen. People think they were like Nazis
and stuff they were or they had at these days
to school and that they didn't know any better.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They had just come to the country. They brought a
piece of human skin from concentrating, like the tattoo on it.
My god, you want to talk about a scandal in
the school. They were expelled.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Wow, yeah, I'm surprise they didn't try to burn their
their apartment down, their house or whatever. But it was
I'm not fooling you when people saying what a girl
in my class had her father as the principal that
must have worked in her favorite maybe or maybe against her.
I don't know. Did Hugh Beaumont serve in the military,
(15:50):
you know, like in real life? I believe he did,
you know, because you know, of course the drafts were
instituted during these periods of time when it would have
been in World War two, and stuffs in World War two. Yeah,
were not typically immune if they wanted to. Most of
the time though, they would go into like entertainment services. Yeah,
something that they did their part, you know, little people
like Ted Williams, the ballplayer Jackie Coogan, because they were
(16:12):
filot Yeah, served in combat related jobs. Look at the
CBS logo that they have for it. The CBS have
a big purpose though. You know, they call them civil
engineers now in the military and in the real world.
(16:33):
But those were the ones that were in charge of
putting everything together, building the infrastructures of the base, the
plans of it. Yea, the engineers. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Very very important role you have the combat engineers and communications.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Look at her, which she was young. Wow, they got
some pictures of June from her younger years. It's a ruler.
It's a T square? Is that T square? Actually? Okay,
sorry I thought there was a long ruler. What is that?
Is that his stand for us like doing surveying. Yes,
(17:09):
that's stand from to put the site machine on a level.
But to me, the question is why would he have
all this? Would they give this equipment away to people
when they got out.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I might have been issued to him individually, or you
know he took it or was his stuff because he
was an engineer.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, because you know, one thing I know about the
military is they're very meticulous things. Charge you for it.
Oh you'll get in big trouble. You know, you could.
You could serve jail time if you have unwillingly take
their equipment if they don't give it to you for something.
I remember they gave us stuff a few times. It
was like they were they were redoing new gear. So
they were like, we got a lot of the chemical
(17:51):
warfare suits. I have some of the garage still and
helmets and stuff. Are they in the Hawaiian skirts?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
They Yeah, they're in grass girls and everything else like that.
You know where he was at because he was in
the Pacific. Probably that he implies that he was in
the Pacific.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
He might have been in Hawaii. You never know. If
you noticed with war all the things that he did.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
That was one of the things in the in the
in the army in the day or the Navy.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You know, there were no women, so they dress up
with women. It's a gag or something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
But when he was in college in the show, he
was in a fraternity.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
He did all the things that you would expect me
to do during that period. He went off to school
and you know, did the military route for a few years,
right served his country. How many of how many of
you did you have parents that you know served in
World War two or maybe the Korean War or both? Yeah, yeah,
you know or both. Of course grandpas are and everything
(19:00):
else like that. But he was drafted.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He had three kids when he was drafted in the
Marines originally, and yeah, been bleeded and they put in
the navy.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
YEP. That's the one interesting thing I always tell people
about our family. It's like all the guys have served
in some capacity. You did your brother, did grandpa? Did
my other grandfather? Did all my uncles? You know, I
did jail? Did all your uncles as well? Yeah, it's
a whole different world now. When you see it that
people don't you know, aren't having that service like they
(19:28):
did during this period of time. And man's great. I
mean you don't want to have a draft or anything. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Actually, uh, what people don't realize is some people wanted
to get into action during the war, and then a
lot of other people just they didn't want to get
They didn't want to get drafted at all.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
If they could get out of the draft, they were happy.
Other people were desponding about it. A lot of other
people when they were drafted, they just wanted to survive.
They didn't want to go into any combat situation if
they didn't have to. Yeah, Dever said. Jerry said that
Hugh did not serve he was a minister. Yeah. Interesting, Yeah,
I know he's a LA minister. Yes, Doug said. For
his for his parent Korean War, see said, Bob served
(20:05):
in the Tennessee Army National Guard. He kept his hat
and boots in flight tech. And my stepdad served in Vietnam.
Stepfather was in the Burma War. He was from England. Wow. Wow,
that was a terrible, wow amazing that was Japanese fighting there.
Boy there, that was that was brutal. Never said I
meant field jacket, No worries.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Here's here's what's happening now, is you know Heavers getting
a call from mister Willett.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Can you imagine this is going to be calling people
at home, the assistant principles calling him. What a cool
place mister Willett has though, look at his his the
typical this typical stereotype pipes there. Yeah, the study, the books,
everything like that. He's got the phone in there, He's
got all the encyclopedes. Look at the lamp that he's got. Yep, yeah,
(20:55):
he's got said mister Willett, like as as you said
plays Andy later on that episode. He's got such a
very unique voice and presentation to his character. Always he's
he's very he's very captivating, I think is a good
word he has.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
He is a classically trained Yes, inherit the Windy is
the same way. Yeah, he's it's like a theater of voice.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, yeah, I think you guys can recognize that with
the certain actors or people who are very well trained,
they can draw you in with their characters so well
and their delivery on how they talk. Ward always does
that for me. Yes, we're talking about they talked about
talk about tomorrow. Very laid back he uh, you know,
(21:40):
and he really is for the most part. You know.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You can see him over the course of the year though,
and even it's hard, they get very tired. You can
see of worrying about them, and War tries to not
worry so much.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
For commercial folks. Yes, I think with Ward though in
the show, you know, as we're kind of looking at
his characters, I think he understands things more where June was.
Of course, you're very stereotypical worry word of a mother
that always was looking out after them. There's nothing wrong
with that at all. But Ward knew that they were
boys and boys would be boys a lot more. I
think I think they're both stereotypes. Sites. Yeah, to be
(22:17):
honest with you, you live through that or so you
can tell me a way better than I can. You know,
the term that wasn't used.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
When I was a kid, or even as an adult
when you were kids, but I think it's very accurate.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's a term that's used now. It's one of the
few things I like about now.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
When you hear narratives, Yeah, there were narratives on you
learned there, you know, there were narratives of how you
were supposed to act as a young boy, young girl,
how you're.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Supposed to act.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It were, how you got ahead, you know, things you did,
like if you went into the military, things you did
or didn't do.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You can see that. It's almost like a mob kind
of a thing.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
You don't rat on anybody, yeah, you don't, you know,
and and teachers wouldn't put you in the position of
ratting on a fellow student, you know what.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
You know. What I find very interesting about Ward though
as a character here is, you know, at that period
of time, the fathers were less involved than there now today,
with a lot of for the most part, you know,
the father's work. They went home, they went out and
did their thing with their buddies, they went out to
the legions, the bars, whatever it might have been. Often
I'm not saying everybody's like that, but often or they
were very hard workers, worked a lot of long hours jobs,
(23:23):
didn't do a lot of things with the kids. Ward
is very involved as you see throughout the whole show,
and he's not a very moody father like I think
you would think, you know, the stereotypes would think from
this timeframe, you know, where they weren't as nice and sweet.
They're involved with their kids where they watch over them
and everything, but they don't. They're not involved where they
participate with them in what should be theirs to do. Yeah,
(23:48):
like they're not at every baseball game. Yeah, like he
goes to a thing, you know, Beaver goes to his thing,
like when they had the field days. Yeah, he's not
taken off to be at the field days or anything
else like that. He's a great model, you know, for
anybody of course that you're watching. I know it's television,
of course, but you know he's a great model for
people in a lot of ways on what to do
(24:09):
as a father, still to this day when you see it. Sure,
and then there's areas that of course he could improve
on like anybody.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But yes, it as a matter of fact, they try
to use for leaving to Beaver, they tried to use
in a lot of these series Father Knows Best, Andy Griffin.
They tried to use the best of child psychology and
everything that the principles of social psychology and child psychology.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, look at the differences in their paper from the
paper you would see then and now how they do it.
It's a line paper. Yeah. Wow, he's elaborating just a
little bit on that one. Huh. Look at their room too,
the simplicity of it.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I mean, when you look at your life, all the things,
there's so many things that you have. Yeah, everything's you know,
flowing out of the place. Everything here is very sparse
and they and they have a lot, yeah, but like
they don't have more than a closet full of clothing.
Look at the collage on the back that I know.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's actually got photographs that are like a little collage
of certain things that mom makes. You can see the
sporting thing. Yes, Wally being the good brother, always trying
(25:33):
to help him out as best as possible. It's funny
with the way they see things though. He doesn't put anything.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Romantic in there because he doesn't want anybody to think
that his father's creepy.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, whal he doesn't worry about this.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, he will help him out, but he's not really
He's lived through all this kind of stuff, so he
doesn't really worry about too.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
But it's kind of different when you see Wally two.
I don't think Wally would the type of kid that
got into the predicaments that Beaver did as a younger
kid as many Yeah, some of course, you know, but
not like he said, not as many.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
While he represents the straight and narrow, you know, he's
not the brightest kid, but he's he's bright and he's
hard worker and everything else like that.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
They show his brightness more when he gets older later
on in the next couple of seasons where you see him.
He's always a straight a student and studying hard in school,
top notch athlete, but he yes it by work. Yeah,
this is not because he's naturalness, you know, and and
Beaver does not have those natural abilities. But you see
with Wally, while he's a natural likable person that we're
friends and stuff that you could see why he was
(26:38):
popular and things like that. But Beaver is always kind
of I don't know, there's always like the one kid
who's the really good one that you see and you know,
another stereotype, the one kids really good at everything, and
the other one that's just kind of there. Yeah, you know,
nothing against him, not that they're not gonna be successful,
but they're just kind of there were Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I always ask, you know, the folks out there, how
would your parents have treated you if you hadn't done
all this.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
He's always telling a lot of lies or making up
things like that. Would your parents have, you know, been
very tolerant of that, you would have acted on me?
You did. You told me that you were the backup
quarterback to the New York Jets on the Super Bowl
to joke my ass. You ran with that for days,
(27:35):
and then I went into school and told everybody, don't
even don't even act like you did. I'm talking about
on a routine. That was one time, asshole, you did
that to me as a kid. I think the thing
that I had most fun with this when I told
your sister I was I was from another planet. But
(27:58):
you you're you're very good at convincing people to enjoy.
You can keep a straight face. Barbara said, popularity comes
easy for Wally Beaver struggles. Yeah, I would agree with that, Barbara.
For sure. Beaver is very likable, but he seems like
a very moody kid often. You know where Wally's a
(28:18):
lot more likable and more even tempered. To me, Well,
he's an interesting thing. Here's where where he finds it.
He finds their letter on there and.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He figures it all out and everything else like that,
And June's whar he's going to be made fun of.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And Ward's a good guy. I mean, you know he
always puts a stop to it or whatever. Well, he
gets it. Yeah, you know, he gets it that a
boy wants to put his dad on this high level.
You know, almost every kid still to this day, I'm
sure it would be the same thing, especially when you're younger.
You know, most any boy will tell you the first
(28:59):
person I asked him, who to your hero growing up?
And mostly everybody will tell you. There's some times, you know,
sometimes not, of course, but I know my hero growing
up was my dad, the backup quarterback for the New
York Oh, Buddy, Joe namas back up. The only reason
was because you had the big shoulder injury. This is funny.
(29:25):
I always like Whitey sket ups, the shirt that he
has with the one button with the thing there. Oh
my god. White He's such a dope that you just
can't help. Even though he's an instigator and a ballbuster
and all that stuff. He's just funny. He's always got
that goofy smile on his face. He's always having fun. Yeah, why,
he's your typical one hundred I Q right in the middle.
(29:47):
They I don't know. I don't I think one might
be very very generous for Whitey. Whitey doesn't seem like
the sharpest tool. And then then there's Judy. Look at Beaver.
He hates her. Yeah, they get the other girl later on,
Penny or something, I can't remember anything. Her name was Penny.
(30:10):
When they when they give Judy the Judy the ax
look at her smirking. What was your favorite subject in school?
As they're talking about history here, Oh, I loved history
(30:32):
and I loved English history, social studies and that kind
of stuff. Science, a lot of science, you know. Math.
I just wasn't my favorite subject, but I mean I
did well. I loved history. What about you all? What
were your favorite subjects in school? What was your top
(30:52):
favorite subject? I'd love to hear. As mister Willa is
talking about history, Matt Cipriano says, Hi, guys, love the
podcast and leave it to Beaver. Thanks Matt, appreciate that,
my friend. Welcome to the show. Nice to see how
Judy is worse than Penny. She definitely is. She does
such a great job as being this awful nag of
(31:13):
a character that I can't stand her as a character.
But it's not because she's not doing her job. She
does a great job as that nag. You know, I
think everybody can relate to it. To a Judy one,
Doug Stead, his favorite is history and science. Barbara says,
I have a soft spot for Judy. Absolutely, I can understand.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Now Wart's gonna talk. June's gonna be very protective towards him.
It's very very sweet how she supports Ward all the time.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, he put the cookie that he took a bite
out of that. Absolutely, he's got the cardigan on. He's
relaxing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
He's got the card again. He's got his pleated pants
on everything. He's right out of the fifties.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Brenda is a fan. It says I liked English and science.
Matt Cipriano said, that was awesome. You got my last
name right. Not many people do keep it up, guys,
Thanks Matt, appreciated buddy, and welcome again to the show.
We hope to see how all the time my friend Matt.
I grew up in Brooklyn, and I can't tell you
how many people by the name of Cipriano. We we
(32:30):
know it where we're from in New York. So we
got that buddy, and we were used to people butchering
our last name. True, we have an easy one and
they still butcher it.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, and you know this is this little thing is
not just a beaver thing. This is for the parents
watching this thing too, because this is less thing. This
is maybe ten or twelves after World War Two.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
This would have been nineteen fifty nine here, so this
would have been in nineteen years. Yeah, I can remember
in nineteen fifty nine. My dad was a member of
the American Legion and worked a lot as a service
officer with people severely wounded during Korea and whatever. And
there were guys still recovering from their wounds in World
War Two. Yeah, in the VA in nineteen fifties. You
(33:25):
know what I like though about how he explains to
him the difference between things and heroes and not everybody's
a hero because you put on a uniform, you know,
and you do this and that that, you know, and
there's different types of heroes. Hugh Beaumont has has the
nicest smile. Yes he does. It just lights up the room.
(33:46):
It gives me a little goosebumps when I see it,
you know, especially knowing you know, how long he's been
gone for now. But yes, Matt said, I'm over by Rochester,
not real far from you, Oh wonderful. Yeah, we're in
the Binghapton area. Mat I up to Rochester a little
bit for work sometimes. Doug Judy was great on the
show because everyone knew a Judy is so easy to relate,
(34:07):
very very.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Jude Doug, Yes, sir, Yeah, the sister principal was a
good guy. He went, he went on the Way Back
Machine and War of eighteen twelve.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
This is very funny. Ward says. He commented about her looks.
He made a joke. Well, I marriage in spite of
the way he looks. And I watched the end of this.
He's in his grass skirt. There we go. What's he doing?
(34:44):
He's writing something. He has an assignment for school on
most exciting What his most exciting thing was? Has he
learned his lesson composition? Look at Wally. You actually see
a shirt untucked a little bit on him because he's
getting out of the shower. But look, he's coming out
(35:06):
of the bathroom and he's coming out of the shower
or just washing his face, but he's got his shirt untucked.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
You know, he's what he's not taking a shower, He's
combing his hair, washing his face, bustering his teeth.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
One of my favorite episodes is later on with Wally
in his hair that I think it's called the wall.
He does that here, dude, it was called didn't they
call it the wall on the show or something? I
don't know what they did. It was called it was
a pomp. They're awful thing. I remember they like have
the rock bemusic playing in the background on that part.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
My brother had one, and then then the back of
his hair was they called it a da duck's ass came.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Like a duck.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
He got sent home from school. I got sent home
from the school because I had taps on my shoes
that were bigger.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Than nickel tap. And you gotta send home for that. Yeah,
you could. The biggest tap you could wear was a
nickel tap. Wow, a five cent metal tap on your shoe.
If you've got a dime tap or quarter tap or
a half dome, why would people wear taps? Oh? You
love taps because just the sound, the sound, and you
could slide on the hall. It was always the distinct
feature when I was in the military because our drill
instructors would wear the taps on their shoes, so you
(36:21):
could hear them coming a mile away from those things,
the clickers, you know that they would have. We loved them.
We love the taps.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And if you were really a gangster, you get what
they call a horseshoe tap and it would be like
a little horseship.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And it was fifty cents for horseshoe tap. That was
a lot of money. Man, Katy said, it's called the
jelly roll in that episode. What a name the jelly
roll of her haircut? That's right. Then June goes to
the principal about the hairdoo. Yeah, it's tremendous. It's it's
I think it's in about season four or something like that,
but it's it's a fantastic episode. I can't wait till
we get to that one. It was a really good episode.
I like that one.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
This was definitely a little different pace, yes going for me,
it was like going back in the way back machine
with you know, with everything else like that. We used
to have mister Freeman come in who was the school principal,
and teach your classical So I was in the number
one class and he's just quadratic equations. Yeah, can you
imagine in the third or fourth grade, I.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Didn't get it. I didn't do good on him in
high school. No, it was crazy. No, I really liked
that one. It was a different pace than than than normal.
I mean, he got himself into a pickle, but it
was a different type. And I liked how Ward and
the assistant principal worked together. And I really liked the
mister Willett in this one. Dude Ward stood out to
me the most in this episode though, just because of
(37:37):
his warmness and his smile and just what a good
daddy is, you know, wonderful mister Willett, just really good character.
You could see as the guy that cared about all
the kids and every and you know, just was it
was a good dude, and he understood about boys and
you know girls and make you know, bad choices and
say something to elaborate a little bit. I really liked that.
So it was very nice. Yeah, well and he closes
(37:59):
in't before we get on out. No, I think it's
really good.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
It's nice to see everybody, and I'll you know, I
like this these characters as I'm taking my acting classes
and everything else like that so I might use some
of the Ward's kind of techniques, uh, you know that
he uses if I give you.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Some new mysteries. As I'm getting older, I might tell
you new things, maybe that I'm adopted or something like that.
Or I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't I wouldn't have
to use my acting skills. But other than that, no,
it's great. It's great to be back.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I hope everybody again seriously with the with the weather
conditions down south, yeah, please stay safe.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Stay stay safe, is right. I've seen I've seen so
much footage today of just you know, people trapped in
their houses and you see the floods of the tides
coming just to your house between dishwashers and electric stuff.
Our house almost burnt down this, you know. Yeah, we
had a little electrical fire in my mouth. So man,
it's been it's been crazy week with stuff. But you guys,
(38:53):
stay safe out there. Please. It's you know, that time
of year, so I don't want aby to get burnt
up or you know, anybody to be floating around and
in these helpful areas. You know, just stay safe, please.
I've seen just enough horrendous videos that the last few day.
But all right everybody. Well, we will be back next week.
We'll see you on the next go around. You guys,
(39:14):
have a great rest of the week. For Stam, I'm John.
We're out of here. We love you. We'll see you
in the next episode. All right, guys, thanks, bye bye
now
M M. Well, happy Saturday to everybody. I hope everybody
(01:51):
is doing wonderful. I am John, and of course I
am here with my partner, mister stan Stan. How are
you tonight. I'm doing great. I'm doing great in this
rainy evening in New York. Are you doing so good?
You could jump up and down and do it and
do a backflip. I don't think I could do a backflip.
I think you could now. I don't think I.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Could do a backflip and shell Dad do the backflip
on the air tonight. Not tonight, man, unless you want
to give Dad the wacky Leaders.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, it might be a perfect night for it. With
all the rain that's going on. Well, I hope everybody's
staying safe because man, we got the hurricane Heleen going
on right now. Just everybody down in Florida and South Carolina,
North Carolina, everywhere. I hope everybody's staying safe. And it's
been some wild weather this week.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah up here too. Yeah, been raining, just an absolute
ton for us. A little bit, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So what's doing exciting in life? You know? Acting classes,
star and a lot of busy stuff at home. A
lot of you know, golf, a lot of stuff with
the family. You know, we had your.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Daughter's birthday last week and all that kind of good stuff.
And just a lot of just a lot of interesting
things done, a lot of busy stuff. Uh, just keeping busy,
like board like award tinker.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, you got to you got to earn that corner office. Yeah,
I am. You got to earn that corner office with
restoring tools and everything else like that, as you will know,
redoing my garage and shop and stuff like this. A
lot of work.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well it's good, it's pretty busy. I'm glad though. Well
we missed everybody last couple of weeks. It's uh, you know,
we've had a lot going on. It's been busy and
stuff and uh, you know, we're back in action here
the next couple of weeks. But we do our we
do our best to try to make it almost every
week we can. But we got, you know, a lot
of things going on in life too. I work a lot,
you know, Dad's got a lot going on. So it's
my anniversary kind of, I know. So next happy first
(03:36):
anniversary to you and mom. Yes, you know you guys,
marry one year. One year. It's been they've been they've
been a wild and wacky couple for the last twenty
eight years, but only been married for a year. I'm
lying through my teeth. I'm sorry. I'm just joking. But yeah,
happy anniversary, thank you, thank you very much. Twenty six years.
How does it feel to be married twenty six years
to your lovely brother? Like, it's twenty six years.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
My wife just stopped smoking, so it's uh, she's one cigarettes.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Man. We could do uh, we could do a leave
it to beaver on that one. She needs a button,
you need some nicorette, you know, she needs a patch,
she needs to stop firing up the sleeper.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
She doesn't use any of that stuff. So it's just sure,
I don't know, she really doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
One person who gets all of her venomine you me
Ward the psychologist.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's what That's what you get when when you're the partner. Yeah,
when they're when they're going through something, that's what you
get when you're the partner. So that's true. It's all good. Well,
it's check into the comments. I think I got everything
shared out to everybody. Welcome everybody. I hope everybody is
doing great. Once again, let's check in and see who
we got. Hi, Kathy, how are you? Kathy? Devorah? Hello?
Keep keep all impacted by Helene and your prayers. East
(04:53):
Tennessee has been hit very hard. Thanks absolutely, Barbara Stark.
Happy Saturday, everybody. Brenda, It's hello everyone, Eva, Hello Devra,
Happy anniversary. Brenda said the same, Thank you so much.
I'll see but make it mom. Mom should be the
one that gets happy, happy anniversaries, because man, keep it.
(05:15):
She gets the happy anniversaries. Yes, she's the good ones. Wow,
some people think maybe maybe not right. It all depends.
Today's been a rough one. Well, we got a great
episode tonight that we got Beater's hero. Yes, this is
a cute one. Tell us about it. It's, you know,
the typical stuff. Mister wallet Wallet I think is the
(05:38):
assistant principles teaching class. He's filling in and he's a
great person for discussions.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And in the class he starts talking about the World
War two and Judy and I think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Uh, not Chester, not Whitey the guy whose father was
the actor Oh Gilbert. Yeah, Gilbrady says his father was
a big hero, and then Judy says her father was
a hero.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And then Beaver makes up this thing about his father
being a hero. He's got a whole big trunk or
he's got a whole bunch of weapons and different.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Things like that. And Ward's really a CEB though, right,
He's a B which is the you know, the naval engineers. Yeah,
they're building things and doing stuff, you know, definitely not
combat guys.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh no, they were a lot of combat, but he wasn't,
you know. And you can guess what it is. Well,
Beaver makes up this big tail, and of course he
gets pinned.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Mister Willet says, hey, why don't you bring some of
that stuff in tomorrow discussion afterwards? Can you imagine this?
I was back then, he says, But check with your father.
There could be something dangerous in there, you know, with whatever. Now,
what was he like bringing knives and stuff? Well, I
guess this was. This series was in the fifties. I mean,
(06:54):
all these guys brought home and you know this was
still fresh.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Fairly you were allowed to send home guns and nights
and stuff like that. Yeah, ordnance from overseas, so you
know that they show that he has some wisdom. But
to make a long story short, it's a very funny
thing because he finds out that his father wasn't a hero,
doesn't have anything like that, and he's going to look
(07:17):
like a boob the next.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Day in class. And it's a very sweet thing. They
find wards old CB box and you know, reminists a
little bit. Well it goes from there. They come up
with a plan and Ward kind of fixes it. It's
an interesting one. You know, June has pictures in there
her and she's young, and you know Beaver's worried, worried,
worried about the thing as usual, and you know it's
making up a big tail.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And mister will is the guy who plays Andy one
of the other things, the guy who drinks.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, he really was. He's had a few. He's
had a few roles throughout the course of the show,
which we've talked about before that you see a lot
of the the actors recycle around.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yes, he was also a very famous character actor, and
he was in Stanley Kramer's very famous movie Inherit the
Wind okay about the Scopes Monkey Trail in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I believe he had a pretty big part in that one. Okay,
so interesting, interesting guy. All right, Well, let's get on
much of a show now. Let's get into it man,
But before we get into it, make sure you guys
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(08:26):
as well. All right, that's all I got. Let's get
on into it. And whatever you do, don't start smoking.
Not like mom. She's a troublemaker. Oh boy, she comes
when she comes down. When the camera goes off, it's
over for you, man. I'm pretty worried. You better be.
I'm running me too. I'm running. Let me luwer this
(08:46):
volume here. There you go. This is episode twenty eight,
season two. Yes it is. I think we got thirty seven.
We got nine episodes left and then we're on to
season three. It's been almost two years that we've been
(09:07):
doing it. Yes, it's been a long time. We've watched
a lot of Beaber episodes over the last couple of years.
Quick commercial from here we go. That mixed sandwich right there,
whatever that is looks pretty good. A steak and an
egg and cheese bagel from McDonald's Fans not the best
thing for you. Probably not. They can taste pretty good.
(09:30):
Probably probably not. So are you guys having a nice uh?
I guess it's the beginning of fall? Yeah, the beginning
of false guess. Yeah, I think we're already in fall now. Yes,
Daylight Saving Time is coming up in November. We've got
Halloween coming and all that kind of good stuff. Are
you a Halloween fan? No? I'm not either. It's not
a big deal for me. Yeah. Same here.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Actually Thanksgiving is not a big big deal for me.
I like Thanksgivings.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
The big one for me is Christmas. Oh you're you're
the Christmas King. I am the Christmas King.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
My favorite book in the whole world is a Christmas
Carol Charles Dickens.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
If I have to take one book with me, that
would be it. All right, we're coming off the commercial.
Now there's the house. I love it all. He's getting
all jazzed up. Yeah, I can remember those days. Then there.
What's he using on his tie? Is he using a pencil?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah? I've never seen anybody do that, but he wants to.
He's not.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
He doesn't have a wins or not. He's using a
different kind of a NASA. He wants to get it
real tight up there and have a little space.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I've never seen that use. I've never seen that trick.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
But button down shirts like that were all the rage,
you know, That's that's what people used.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
To Why is he wearing a tie going to school though?
School pictures? School pictures gotcha? Oh yeah? Would it have
been rare to have? And I'm not trying to be
sexist Hereius is the times Missus Rayburn was the principal
as a woman. Would it be rare for a man
to be working for a woman at that period of time? No?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
No, no, but you would probably have been the other
way around. I don't remember any of the principals being women. Yeah,
or a system principles. What about you all out there?
You know, what was your principal at that time?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
If you if you were born in the fifties, sixties,
or seventies, you know, did you have a male principal
a female principal? It had to have been a little
rare at this point in time. For Missus n When
I was in grade school, the principal was a male
and the assistant principle was a female.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Missus Friedman yes, and they would like, as you can
see here, they're you know, they were from the teaching
staff originally, but so they go back and fill in.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh, yeah, that's that's definitely. Yes, Yeah, that's definitely. He
also played Captain Jack. No, that was I give you
Cannon played was it? Yes? No? Yes, it was not him. Oh,
Captain Jack was Ward's brother. In a later episode on
Uncle Billy, he played Uncle Billy. He played Uncle Billy.
(12:16):
Later on Let's See, Doug Derby said, had many women
principals from grade school through high school at that time.
What ye were you born, Doug, I'm interested. It's very
interesting to me to see the change of times and
how they as you know, especially at that period of time.
Barbara said, born in the sixties, and all of my
(12:37):
principals were men from graderade one through twelve. All right,
Doug said, nineteen sixty eight. He graduates the same as you.
Kathy said, yeah, he played the music teacher. Absolutely. Now
I remember that's when Beaver was awful, Kathy, right, he
was awful in the band.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Well, here's the situation that they're in now that I
told you about before. They're in class and they're all
talking about their father's being war heroes.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And they're always kind of battling with each other. It's
always competitive, you know, and especially at that time, he
knows whose parent what did what? You know, whose parent
was something cooler than the other. And here's the one
girl everybody hates her. She has, she has taking a
list of who was talking? Loore going to rip it
(13:32):
up and throw it away. Look at the cuffs. Oh
my god, look at whites. That's what I'm saying. Wow. Yes,
the cuffs on whiteis pants there are bigger than Larry Mondelo's. Yes,
the haircuts always cracked me up. Like if you look
at his hair, like, look at it. It's got that
(13:53):
one little chunk that's like put forward in his hair.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Actually, they would the point comb your hair so that
you would comb over uh huh, and we go for lie.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It would be that way. See Brenda said, I had
a male principle, and I was born in nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
All right, oh, you're just kids. I was born in
nineteen fifty. You and Doug are I think the oldest
one is here tonight so far? Maybe Kathy, I think
is the same age as you too.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, nineteen fifty white. He's such a good antagonist. Then too.
Every class has a Judy hens Flower though some version
of yeah, yes always there's always some know it all
(14:39):
in the class and some pain in the ass like
her that tattles on everybody. Yes, can you believe the
difference today?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I've been waiting for him to say this, can you
would you mind with all the school shootings and things
like that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm really not fooling you.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I don't I mean to make this sound inappropriate. I
had a family that moved in an area to our school,
the im Hofs.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
They were from Germany, so this must have been about
nineteen fifty five nineteen. People think they were like Nazis
and stuff they were or they had at these days
to school and that they didn't know any better.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They had just come to the country. They brought a
piece of human skin from concentrating, like the tattoo on it.
My god, you want to talk about a scandal in
the school. They were expelled.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Wow, yeah, I'm surprise they didn't try to burn their
their apartment down, their house or whatever. But it was
I'm not fooling you when people saying what a girl
in my class had her father as the principal that
must have worked in her favorite maybe or maybe against her.
I don't know. Did Hugh Beaumont serve in the military,
(15:50):
you know, like in real life? I believe he did,
you know, because you know, of course the drafts were
instituted during these periods of time when it would have
been in World War two, and stuffs in World War two. Yeah,
were not typically immune if they wanted to. Most of
the time though, they would go into like entertainment services. Yeah,
something that they did their part, you know, little people
like Ted Williams, the ballplayer Jackie Coogan, because they were
(16:12):
filot Yeah, served in combat related jobs. Look at the
CBS logo that they have for it. The CBS have
a big purpose though. You know, they call them civil
engineers now in the military and in the real world.
(16:33):
But those were the ones that were in charge of
putting everything together, building the infrastructures of the base, the
plans of it. Yea, the engineers. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Very very important role you have the combat engineers and communications.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Look at her, which she was young. Wow, they got
some pictures of June from her younger years. It's a ruler.
It's a T square? Is that T square? Actually? Okay,
sorry I thought there was a long ruler. What is that?
Is that his stand for us like doing surveying. Yes,
(17:09):
that's stand from to put the site machine on a level.
But to me, the question is why would he have
all this? Would they give this equipment away to people
when they got out.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I might have been issued to him individually, or you
know he took it or was his stuff because he
was an engineer.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, because you know, one thing I know about the
military is they're very meticulous things. Charge you for it.
Oh you'll get in big trouble. You know, you could.
You could serve jail time if you have unwillingly take
their equipment if they don't give it to you for something.
I remember they gave us stuff a few times. It
was like they were they were redoing new gear. So
they were like, we got a lot of the chemical
(17:51):
warfare suits. I have some of the garage still and
helmets and stuff. Are they in the Hawaiian skirts?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
They Yeah, they're in grass girls and everything else like that.
You know where he was at because he was in
the Pacific. Probably that he implies that he was in
the Pacific.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
He might have been in Hawaii. You never know. If
you noticed with war all the things that he did.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
That was one of the things in the in the
in the army in the day or the Navy.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You know, there were no women, so they dress up
with women. It's a gag or something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
But when he was in college in the show, he
was in a fraternity.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
He did all the things that you would expect me
to do during that period. He went off to school
and you know, did the military route for a few years,
right served his country. How many of how many of
you did you have parents that you know served in
World War two or maybe the Korean War or both? Yeah, yeah,
you know or both. Of course grandpas are and everything
(19:00):
else like that. But he was drafted.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He had three kids when he was drafted in the
Marines originally, and yeah, been bleeded and they put in
the navy.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
YEP. That's the one interesting thing I always tell people
about our family. It's like all the guys have served
in some capacity. You did your brother, did grandpa? Did
my other grandfather? Did all my uncles? You know, I
did jail? Did all your uncles as well? Yeah, it's
a whole different world now. When you see it that
people don't you know, aren't having that service like they
(19:28):
did during this period of time. And man's great. I
mean you don't want to have a draft or anything. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Actually, uh, what people don't realize is some people wanted
to get into action during the war, and then a
lot of other people just they didn't want to get
They didn't want to get drafted at all.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
If they could get out of the draft, they were happy.
Other people were desponding about it. A lot of other
people when they were drafted, they just wanted to survive.
They didn't want to go into any combat situation if
they didn't have to. Yeah, Dever said. Jerry said that
Hugh did not serve he was a minister. Yeah. Interesting, Yeah,
I know he's a LA minister. Yes, Doug said. For
his for his parent Korean War, see said, Bob served
(20:05):
in the Tennessee Army National Guard. He kept his hat
and boots in flight tech. And my stepdad served in Vietnam.
Stepfather was in the Burma War. He was from England. Wow. Wow,
that was a terrible, wow amazing that was Japanese fighting there.
Boy there, that was that was brutal. Never said I
meant field jacket, No worries.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Here's here's what's happening now, is you know Heavers getting
a call from mister Willett.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Can you imagine this is going to be calling people
at home, the assistant principles calling him. What a cool
place mister Willett has though, look at his his the
typical this typical stereotype pipes there. Yeah, the study, the books,
everything like that. He's got the phone in there, He's
got all the encyclopedes. Look at the lamp that he's got. Yep, yeah,
(20:55):
he's got said mister Willett, like as as you said
plays Andy later on that episode. He's got such a
very unique voice and presentation to his character. Always he's
he's very he's very captivating, I think is a good
word he has.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
He is a classically trained Yes, inherit the Windy is
the same way. Yeah, he's it's like a theater of voice.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, yeah, I think you guys can recognize that with
the certain actors or people who are very well trained,
they can draw you in with their characters so well
and their delivery on how they talk. Ward always does
that for me. Yes, we're talking about they talked about
talk about tomorrow. Very laid back he uh, you know,
(21:40):
and he really is for the most part. You know.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You can see him over the course of the year though,
and even it's hard, they get very tired. You can
see of worrying about them, and War tries to not
worry so much.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
For commercial folks. Yes, I think with Ward though in
the show, you know, as we're kind of looking at
his characters, I think he understands things more where June was.
Of course, you're very stereotypical worry word of a mother
that always was looking out after them. There's nothing wrong
with that at all. But Ward knew that they were
boys and boys would be boys a lot more. I
think I think they're both stereotypes. Sites. Yeah, to be
(22:17):
honest with you, you live through that or so you
can tell me a way better than I can. You know,
the term that wasn't used.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
When I was a kid, or even as an adult
when you were kids, but I think it's very accurate.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's a term that's used now. It's one of the
few things I like about now.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
When you hear narratives, Yeah, there were narratives on you
learned there, you know, there were narratives of how you
were supposed to act as a young boy, young girl,
how you're.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Supposed to act.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It were, how you got ahead, you know, things you did,
like if you went into the military, things you did
or didn't do.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You can see that. It's almost like a mob kind
of a thing.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
You don't rat on anybody, yeah, you don't, you know,
and and teachers wouldn't put you in the position of
ratting on a fellow student, you know what.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
You know. What I find very interesting about Ward though
as a character here is, you know, at that period
of time, the fathers were less involved than there now today,
with a lot of for the most part, you know,
the father's work. They went home, they went out and
did their thing with their buddies, they went out to
the legions, the bars, whatever it might have been. Often
I'm not saying everybody's like that, but often or they
were very hard workers, worked a lot of long hours jobs,
(23:23):
didn't do a lot of things with the kids. Ward
is very involved as you see throughout the whole show,
and he's not a very moody father like I think
you would think, you know, the stereotypes would think from
this timeframe, you know, where they weren't as nice and sweet.
They're involved with their kids where they watch over them
and everything, but they don't. They're not involved where they
participate with them in what should be theirs to do. Yeah,
(23:48):
like they're not at every baseball game. Yeah, like he
goes to a thing, you know, Beaver goes to his thing,
like when they had the field days. Yeah, he's not
taken off to be at the field days or anything
else like that. He's a great model, you know, for
anybody of course that you're watching. I know it's television,
of course, but you know he's a great model for
people in a lot of ways on what to do
(24:09):
as a father, still to this day when you see it. Sure,
and then there's areas that of course he could improve
on like anybody.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But yes, it as a matter of fact, they try
to use for leaving to Beaver, they tried to use
in a lot of these series Father Knows Best, Andy Griffin.
They tried to use the best of child psychology and
everything that the principles of social psychology and child psychology.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, look at the differences in their paper from the
paper you would see then and now how they do it.
It's a line paper. Yeah. Wow, he's elaborating just a
little bit on that one. Huh. Look at their room too,
the simplicity of it.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I mean, when you look at your life, all the things,
there's so many things that you have. Yeah, everything's you know,
flowing out of the place. Everything here is very sparse
and they and they have a lot, yeah, but like
they don't have more than a closet full of clothing.
Look at the collage on the back that I know.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's actually got photographs that are like a little collage
of certain things that mom makes. You can see the
sporting thing. Yes, Wally being the good brother, always trying
(25:33):
to help him out as best as possible. It's funny
with the way they see things though. He doesn't put anything.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Romantic in there because he doesn't want anybody to think
that his father's creepy.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, whal he doesn't worry about this.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, he will help him out, but he's not really
He's lived through all this kind of stuff, so he
doesn't really worry about too.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
But it's kind of different when you see Wally two.
I don't think Wally would the type of kid that
got into the predicaments that Beaver did as a younger
kid as many Yeah, some of course, you know, but
not like he said, not as many.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
While he represents the straight and narrow, you know, he's
not the brightest kid, but he's he's bright and he's
hard worker and everything else like that.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
They show his brightness more when he gets older later
on in the next couple of seasons where you see him.
He's always a straight a student and studying hard in school,
top notch athlete, but he yes it by work. Yeah,
this is not because he's naturalness, you know, and and
Beaver does not have those natural abilities. But you see
with Wally, while he's a natural likable person that we're
friends and stuff that you could see why he was
(26:38):
popular and things like that. But Beaver is always kind
of I don't know, there's always like the one kid
who's the really good one that you see and you know,
another stereotype, the one kids really good at everything, and
the other one that's just kind of there. Yeah, you know,
nothing against him, not that they're not gonna be successful,
but they're just kind of there were Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I always ask, you know, the folks out there, how
would your parents have treated you if you hadn't done
all this.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
He's always telling a lot of lies or making up
things like that. Would your parents have, you know, been
very tolerant of that, you would have acted on me?
You did. You told me that you were the backup
quarterback to the New York Jets on the Super Bowl
to joke my ass. You ran with that for days,
(27:35):
and then I went into school and told everybody, don't
even don't even act like you did. I'm talking about
on a routine. That was one time, asshole, you did
that to me as a kid. I think the thing
that I had most fun with this when I told
your sister I was I was from another planet. But
(27:58):
you you're you're very good at convincing people to enjoy.
You can keep a straight face. Barbara said, popularity comes
easy for Wally Beaver struggles. Yeah, I would agree with that, Barbara.
For sure. Beaver is very likable, but he seems like
a very moody kid often. You know where Wally's a
(28:18):
lot more likable and more even tempered. To me, Well,
he's an interesting thing. Here's where where he finds it.
He finds their letter on there and.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He figures it all out and everything else like that,
And June's whar he's going to be made fun of.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And Ward's a good guy. I mean, you know he
always puts a stop to it or whatever. Well, he
gets it. Yeah, you know, he gets it that a
boy wants to put his dad on this high level.
You know, almost every kid still to this day, I'm
sure it would be the same thing, especially when you're younger.
You know, most any boy will tell you the first
(28:59):
person I asked him, who to your hero growing up?
And mostly everybody will tell you. There's some times, you know,
sometimes not, of course, but I know my hero growing
up was my dad, the backup quarterback for the New
York Oh, Buddy, Joe namas back up. The only reason
was because you had the big shoulder injury. This is funny.
(29:25):
I always like Whitey sket ups, the shirt that he
has with the one button with the thing there. Oh
my god. White He's such a dope that you just
can't help. Even though he's an instigator and a ballbuster
and all that stuff. He's just funny. He's always got
that goofy smile on his face. He's always having fun. Yeah, why,
he's your typical one hundred I Q right in the middle.
(29:47):
They I don't know. I don't I think one might
be very very generous for Whitey. Whitey doesn't seem like
the sharpest tool. And then then there's Judy. Look at Beaver.
He hates her. Yeah, they get the other girl later on,
Penny or something, I can't remember anything. Her name was Penny.
(30:10):
When they when they give Judy the Judy the ax
look at her smirking. What was your favorite subject in school?
As they're talking about history here, Oh, I loved history
(30:32):
and I loved English history, social studies and that kind
of stuff. Science, a lot of science, you know. Math.
I just wasn't my favorite subject, but I mean I
did well. I loved history. What about you all? What
were your favorite subjects in school? What was your top
(30:52):
favorite subject? I'd love to hear. As mister Willa is
talking about history, Matt Cipriano says, Hi, guys, love the
podcast and leave it to Beaver. Thanks Matt, appreciate that,
my friend. Welcome to the show. Nice to see how
Judy is worse than Penny. She definitely is. She does
such a great job as being this awful nag of
(31:13):
a character that I can't stand her as a character.
But it's not because she's not doing her job. She
does a great job as that nag. You know, I
think everybody can relate to it. To a Judy one,
Doug Stead, his favorite is history and science. Barbara says,
I have a soft spot for Judy. Absolutely, I can understand.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Now Wart's gonna talk. June's gonna be very protective towards him.
It's very very sweet how she supports Ward all the time.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, he put the cookie that he took a bite
out of that. Absolutely, he's got the cardigan on. He's
relaxing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
He's got the card again. He's got his pleated pants
on everything. He's right out of the fifties.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Brenda is a fan. It says I liked English and science.
Matt Cipriano said, that was awesome. You got my last
name right. Not many people do keep it up, guys,
Thanks Matt, appreciated buddy, and welcome again to the show.
We hope to see how all the time my friend Matt.
I grew up in Brooklyn, and I can't tell you
how many people by the name of Cipriano. We we
(32:30):
know it where we're from in New York. So we
got that buddy, and we were used to people butchering
our last name. True, we have an easy one and
they still butcher it.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, and you know this is this little thing is
not just a beaver thing. This is for the parents
watching this thing too, because this is less thing. This
is maybe ten or twelves after World War Two.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
This would have been nineteen fifty nine here, so this
would have been in nineteen years. Yeah, I can remember
in nineteen fifty nine. My dad was a member of
the American Legion and worked a lot as a service
officer with people severely wounded during Korea and whatever. And
there were guys still recovering from their wounds in World
War Two. Yeah, in the VA in nineteen fifties. You
(33:25):
know what I like though about how he explains to
him the difference between things and heroes and not everybody's
a hero because you put on a uniform, you know,
and you do this and that that, you know, and
there's different types of heroes. Hugh Beaumont has has the
nicest smile. Yes he does. It just lights up the room.
(33:46):
It gives me a little goosebumps when I see it,
you know, especially knowing you know, how long he's been
gone for now. But yes, Matt said, I'm over by Rochester,
not real far from you, Oh wonderful. Yeah, we're in
the Binghapton area. Mat I up to Rochester a little
bit for work sometimes. Doug Judy was great on the
show because everyone knew a Judy is so easy to relate,
(34:07):
very very.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Jude Doug, Yes, sir, Yeah, the sister principal was a
good guy. He went, he went on the Way Back
Machine and War of eighteen twelve.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
This is very funny. Ward says. He commented about her looks.
He made a joke. Well, I marriage in spite of
the way he looks. And I watched the end of this.
He's in his grass skirt. There we go. What's he doing?
(34:44):
He's writing something. He has an assignment for school on
most exciting What his most exciting thing was? Has he
learned his lesson composition? Look at Wally. You actually see
a shirt untucked a little bit on him because he's
getting out of the shower. But look, he's coming out
(35:06):
of the bathroom and he's coming out of the shower
or just washing his face, but he's got his shirt untucked.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
You know, he's what he's not taking a shower, He's
combing his hair, washing his face, bustering his teeth.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
One of my favorite episodes is later on with Wally
in his hair that I think it's called the wall.
He does that here, dude, it was called didn't they
call it the wall on the show or something? I
don't know what they did. It was called it was
a pomp. They're awful thing. I remember they like have
the rock bemusic playing in the background on that part.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
My brother had one, and then then the back of
his hair was they called it a da duck's ass came.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Like a duck.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
He got sent home from school. I got sent home
from the school because I had taps on my shoes
that were bigger.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Than nickel tap. And you gotta send home for that. Yeah,
you could. The biggest tap you could wear was a
nickel tap. Wow, a five cent metal tap on your shoe.
If you've got a dime tap or quarter tap or
a half dome, why would people wear taps? Oh? You
love taps because just the sound, the sound, and you
could slide on the hall. It was always the distinct
feature when I was in the military because our drill
instructors would wear the taps on their shoes, so you
(36:21):
could hear them coming a mile away from those things,
the clickers, you know that they would have. We loved them.
We love the taps.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And if you were really a gangster, you get what
they call a horseshoe tap and it would be like
a little horseship.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And it was fifty cents for horseshoe tap. That was
a lot of money. Man, Katy said, it's called the
jelly roll in that episode. What a name the jelly
roll of her haircut? That's right. Then June goes to
the principal about the hairdoo. Yeah, it's tremendous. It's it's
I think it's in about season four or something like that,
but it's it's a fantastic episode. I can't wait till
we get to that one. It was a really good episode.
I like that one.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
This was definitely a little different pace, yes going for me,
it was like going back in the way back machine
with you know, with everything else like that. We used
to have mister Freeman come in who was the school principal,
and teach your classical So I was in the number
one class and he's just quadratic equations. Yeah, can you
imagine in the third or fourth grade, I.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Didn't get it. I didn't do good on him in
high school. No, it was crazy. No, I really liked
that one. It was a different pace than than than normal.
I mean, he got himself into a pickle, but it
was a different type. And I liked how Ward and
the assistant principal worked together. And I really liked the
mister Willett in this one. Dude Ward stood out to
me the most in this episode though, just because of
(37:37):
his warmness and his smile and just what a good
daddy is, you know, wonderful mister Willett, just really good character.
You could see as the guy that cared about all
the kids and every and you know, just was it
was a good dude, and he understood about boys and
you know girls and make you know, bad choices and
say something to elaborate a little bit. I really liked that.
So it was very nice. Yeah, well and he closes
(37:59):
in't before we get on out. No, I think it's
really good.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
It's nice to see everybody, and I'll you know, I
like this these characters as I'm taking my acting classes
and everything else like that so I might use some
of the Ward's kind of techniques, uh, you know that
he uses if I give you.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Some new mysteries. As I'm getting older, I might tell
you new things, maybe that I'm adopted or something like that.
Or I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't I wouldn't have
to use my acting skills. But other than that, no,
it's great. It's great to be back.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I hope everybody again seriously with the with the weather
conditions down south, yeah, please stay safe.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Stay stay safe, is right. I've seen I've seen so
much footage today of just you know, people trapped in
their houses and you see the floods of the tides
coming just to your house between dishwashers and electric stuff.
Our house almost burnt down this, you know. Yeah, we
had a little electrical fire in my mouth. So man,
it's been it's been crazy week with stuff. But you guys,
(38:53):
stay safe out there. Please. It's you know, that time
of year, so I don't want aby to get burnt
up or you know, anybody to be floating around and
in these helpful areas. You know, just stay safe, please.
I've seen just enough horrendous videos that the last few day.
But all right everybody. Well, we will be back next week.
We'll see you on the next go around. You guys,
(39:14):
have a great rest of the week. For Stam, I'm John.
We're out of here. We love you. We'll see you
in the next episode. All right, guys, thanks, bye bye
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