A Strategic Surrender Dressed Up as a Trade Win 10/31/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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recorded audience. So great to have everyone with us today.
Moe Kelly joined us an hour or two. We'll look
at the week in politics, and there is a lot
going on. Donald Trump are a president, my Lord and
Savior is back from Asia. He is taking a victory

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lap and all what on a ten scale? He says,
it's a twelve, which is higher than a ten, which
means it must have really gone. Well, I'll tell you why.
That's all spin and total bullshit. But it is such
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Albert took an extra day because his real job, the
job that pays him benefits and big money, wanted to
do some meeting or something. Isn't that what happened? Albert?

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I know they said to train me in Houston. I
did get a recent promotion.

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You got a recent promotion, which is I know, I
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Where's the recorded applause?

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He must have brought all all right, there you go money.
He must have brought a sense of purpose and focus
to that job that he doesn't bring here. But Albert,
I love having him back on the show. Kim is here,
and Kim stepped up a bit while you were away, Albert.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
She's kind of Kim Ken.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I'd hate to talk about this in front of the
whole family, but she can slide into sort of slackerville
kind of the way you have this is incredible. I'm
just saying, Kim, you what you do and all the
TI do you show such great chops Occasionally.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
The buttons I was pressing yesterday or I normally pressed yesterday,
So maybe it rubbed off, so I apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, it was really your slackerness that she would I
blame you. Yeah, maybe it was makeet on Kim says Penny. Yeah,
appreciate it. Thanks for sharing the show everybody. E've been
really cool about that. I do have one thing I'd
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I've received a lot of positive letters.

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Yeah, this is Ronda, who is a regular in our chat.
I don't think she's watching right now based on this,
but she said I here it is. Apparently she left
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my feelings are kind of hurt. You didn't read my superchat.
On October twenty third what I only have Social Security
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I didn't see it. I don't see any comments on

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our system here is that all super chats and super
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Speaker 2 (04:02):
Him yeah, she said it was the first super chat
of the day. So much for that argument. What Yeah, anyway,
our apologies to Rondo. We do try to get to
all super chats, as you know, so I'm really sorry
if you've left his super chat and we didn't get
to it, because we're strong.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
It was stupid and I'm trying to be a better person.
I'm glad to Mark Thompson.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Yeah, exactly for that, for the super chat and supersticker.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, exit it. So we didn't mean that. Yeah, we
did not mean apology most certainly. Yeah. Yeah, all right,
let's get to Let's get to chat marks first. You
should know this. I'm going to bring Anthony Davis on,
who is not only my favorite bitisher, but he's riding
and I think it's not only riding the way, but

(04:52):
that might have touched Network, but he's very much responsible
for a lot of their success. It might have touched Network.
I mean, I think they're amazing, the whole crew, but
he does a really nice job as well. Anywoll get
to him in a moment. I did want to mention that,
you know, we're on the verge of military confrontation, and
we're on the verge of losing snap support for many Americans,

(05:13):
forty two million of them who need it. We're in
this weird place where the government closure is now going
to affect more and more people just in the next day,
and it appears that we're not seeing a lot of
movement on that. We'll talk to Anthony about that. It's
the war footing that we find ourselves in. I just
want to spend a beat on it, and then, as

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I say, we'll get into a little bit of the
government being shut down. I definitely want to talk about China, because, man,
you were hearing mega spin out of this administration on
what is essentially nothing. I mean, it was, this is
truly this is so Trumpian that he would go photo
op for the four day period, get a bunch of gifts, smile,

(05:57):
shake hands, and then tell you how great it is
is and then when you actually look at the details
that we have access to, it would appear that there's
not a bit of greatness in it. In fact, Trump
desperate to kind of cobble back together the relationship that
he had with China before he started smack talking them
and bitch slapping every nation on Earth and essentially leaning

(06:20):
on them through this tariff policy which has created all
sorts of destruction for our economy, for sectors of our economy,
from agriculture to importers of all kinds. And we'll get
to that, but first to Venezuela. Albert share the latest
news if you would. As it broke this morning, there
is increasing talk that this may be the day we

(06:42):
actually go to war with Venezuela.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
We're back with some breaking news.

Speaker 7 (06:49):
New reporting this morning that the US is preparing to
strike targets inside Venezuela, major escalation against the Majora regime.
And this is according to the Miami Herald, which has
sources with of the situation, telling the paper the Trump
administration has decided to attack military installations inside Venezuela and
they could come at any time.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
That is.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
House members from both sides of the aisle say they
were left with more questions than answers after a classified
briefing yesterday on the administration strikes on alleged drug boats.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
There were not very good answers as to what is
the standard, what is occurring.

Speaker 8 (07:26):
Lawyers were supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
In the room, they were not. People were very frustrated
in the information that was being provided.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Am I leaving satisfied.

Speaker 9 (07:33):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 10 (07:34):
They just said that they can't answer these questions because
the lawyers aren't here.

Speaker 9 (07:38):
They canceled having the lawyers here.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Are you hearing from the right people?

Speaker 9 (07:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
Since early September, at least sixty one people have been
killed in fourteen known strikes in the Caribbean and the Pacific.
For more on this, let's bring in MSNBC senior national
security reports.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm going to go around the National Security to a
reporter and the general retired general there, and I'll just
summarize what they're saying, which is, is there any sort
of after action strategy? Has this been gamed out beyond
just these bombings? What is the future relationship that you're
seeking for Venezuela, Colombia? And in essence, this looks like

(08:22):
the boat strikes, which is shoot first and ask questions later.
There is no real strategy here. It's a flex. I
mean I use that word a lot because I think
that's really it embodies what this administration is all about.
They blow these vessels out of the water. Some of
them were fishing vessels, some of them were fishermen. We

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know that, and then when they meet with congress people
in the way that they have to for anything like
this to continue, it must get congressional approval. They don't
even bring the lawyers. You heard it right there. They
don't bring the lawyers to the met The lawyers are
critical because they can explain the legal underpinnings that justify

(09:05):
that action. Lawyers were nowhere in those meetings. So I think,
as we're on the precipice of a real incursion into Venezuela,
looks like it's going to be bombings. Initially. I don't
really know what their plan is, and I don't know
if they know what their plan is, but I think
it really bears underscoring that they're not bringing Congress in.

(09:31):
This is another typical authoritarian move on the part of
an administration that really doesn't want to answer to the
courts and doesn't want to answer to the law.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
I was just reading an article about the power of
Venezuela's military, and it's not an would not be evenly matched.
I mean, there we outnumber them in you know, every
way possible. It's not wouldn't even be a fair fight.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's why it was chosen as the victim. I mean, please,
you know this is this is deliberate thing that Donald
Trump is doing. This guy who wanted the Nobel Peace Prize.
You know, he's kicking sand in the face of those
on the planet that he knows he can get away
with it.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
According to Newsweek, the United States has more than thirteen
thousand aircraft, Venezuela has two hundred and twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Sure, I mean it's not even I mean it's laughing.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
And I know that's not the point of what you're
trying to say, but like if there were to be
such a war between us, come.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
On, yeah, anyway, that's the latest. I wanted to mention
it because I think that, yeah, it's it's it's a
bully move, and bombing these boats is a it's illegal
b It's not even the way you would actually interdict
a drug trade. You would jump on board these boats

(10:58):
or stop these boats and way or another, and you'd
make these arrests and these people would be prosecuted and
they wouldn't face the death penalty. I mean, drug traffickers
are not facing the death penalty in this country and
even in Venezuela. So these extra judicial killings there, they're serious,

(11:19):
and they're unjustifiable. And that's the reason no lawyers from
this administration, none attended the congressional briefing, which was all
about the legal justification. They literally couldn't talk about anything
because the lawyers weren't there. You heard the the congressman says,
so so the thumbs I yield to no one in

(11:42):
my regard for this man. He speaks in the most elegant,
eloquent way. He speaks our language, but he does it
better than we do. You know, I think there can
be no accolade too great for the wonderful Anthony Davis
from the Midas Touch Network.

Speaker 11 (12:03):
Hello, sir, Hello Mark, Thank you for having me appreciate
You're always embarrassing introductions.

Speaker 9 (12:09):
That's what I'm here for.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yes, I heap it on. I heap the praise on
my my esteemed colleagues in this world, and I think
you are someone who is deserving of that praise.

Speaker 9 (12:22):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
T I have a bunch of things I wanted to
ask you about first, because I'm coming off the Venezuela conversation.
Just give me a beat on that. It looks as
though we're going to, at least according to reporting from
the Miami Herald do some strategic bombing in Venezuela. We've
taken out these fisher people. Sixty one people have been killed.
I'd say I know that they're not there's some fisher

(12:44):
people who've been killed. And by the way, fisher people
does sound weird. It's fishermen, of course, but it's I'm
just trying to be politically correct people of fish people
and maybe and maybe some narcotic tropickers along the way.
I'm not sure that there weren't narcotics do.

Speaker 11 (13:03):
This is the whole issue is that we don't know,
and they probably don't know either. So I'll tell you
who does know, and that's the families of the fisher
people that have gone missing. Weirdly, I think it was
the submarine that he bombed with one of these drone
strikes where there were two people were left alive and
they got sent back to Colombia and Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, they're such dangerous narco traffickers that they got sent back.

Speaker 11 (13:29):
You know why they get to go home and everybody
else gets put into seacot I don't know. But the
issue here is that you know, these are people of
color invariably, you know, the majority of Venezuelan's are a
mixed race, some of African descent. There's a whole range
of people, but you know, the majority are non white,

(13:51):
and you really have to understand that at the heart
of this is racism, as is you know, the immigration
raids within the US. This is just Trump kind of,
in my opinion, flexing his ability to eradicate people of
color from the planet. And I hate to say it,
but I don't think it's going to stop. He actually

(14:11):
there was a report from Reuter's this morning that said
that they kind of asked him again and he denied
he was considering strikes inside Venezuela and so that and
you are correct because he contradicted his own comments from
last week. So nobody really knows. But then again, you know,
yesterday I see a truth social post from him saying

(14:32):
that he's going to test nuclear weapons because because Russia
and China are testing their nuclear weapons.

Speaker 9 (14:38):
And I'm like, where's he getting his information?

Speaker 7 (14:40):
Mark?

Speaker 11 (14:41):
I mean, Russia and China haven't tested nuclear weapons in forever.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, nineties, And they what they were talking about, because
they did talk Russian China about various missile delivery systems
that they were testing, but they weren't actually testing the nukes.
They were testing these missiles.

Speaker 11 (14:55):
So the guy who has the codes can't tell the
difference between missile testing. I mean Kim Jong, who's obviously
he's you know, his boyfriend. He does test nuclear missiles.
And so you know, if you want to kind of
aim your ir at anybody, maybe do it at him.
But this is all becoming very weird, and the theme
throughout is Donald Trump's insanity, dementia, narcissistic personality disorder. We

(15:21):
are dealing with somebody who is extremely unwell, and so
you and I and other commentators are having to make
sense of these outrageous decisions. They're not even decisions. I
mean they're whims. I mean, you know, hunches. He even
admitted that himself, with how he chooses the number for
a tariff. It's just a feeling, he said. And so

(15:42):
you know, this is this is my concern is that
if he's now conflating kind of nuclear arsenals and you know,
the indiscriminate killings to kind of phrase used by Rand
Paul of people in boats. I mean, in gone of
the days where you would stop a boat, you would

(16:03):
arrest the people, detain them, question them, give them a
court hearing, then imprison them. If they were guilty, you
you know, you just kill him. And he said in
the Oval office, well, yeah, we're just going to kill him,
you know dead.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah. It was the oddest kind of like throwback to
some nineteen fifties Western kind of sheriff. Yeah. There's I think,
no real we know, political philosophy underpinning a lot of this,
apart from what you said, sort of these broad senses
of a nineteen sixties vision of the world.

Speaker 9 (16:39):
Yeap.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
And it's interesting too that beyond that, in our country,
there is the mayor of Chicago, pleading with the Department
of Homeland Security, had Christine nom not to send ice
agents in for Halloween trick or treaters, not to use
tear gas against Halloween trick or treaters, really saying please
give Chicago will break from this at least so we

(17:02):
can do the trick or treating, a holiday that kids
look forward to and is handled peacefully in Chicago, Let's
do it without your ice agents informing the kind of
anxiety that's running through all these communities.

Speaker 11 (17:16):
Well, it was a flex for her to say no,
of course, we're not going to stop that, you know,
and we have to remember that, you know, fifty percent
of the stuff that they say is not what they do.
And she's traveling around with a film crew and ICE
are traveling around with film crews. I mean a lot
of this is is producing propaganda so that they can,

(17:39):
you know, give the impression that this movement is much
larger than it is. We have to remember that, you know.
For the the shift that we're about to see that
is more worrying than anything for me is the combining
of border patrol with ICE, because you know, ICE traditionally
have worked inland border patrol, been at the border, and

(18:01):
by moving this management around and changing the way that
the authority kicks in, it's going to make things far,
far worse. And I'm I'm really very.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
Worried about that going forward.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Well deliberate.

Speaker 9 (18:16):
She's a cosplay distraction.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Oh exactly. I mean she she likes to dress up
in camo and you know, bulletproof vests and hold an
assault style rifle and post for pictures. That's exactly right.
She is. She could be a model as opposed to
somebody who's an administrator for for what she really does.
Day to day. But the demand is for more in

(18:40):
the way of arrests, more in the way of detentions,
more in the way of deportations. I mean, they want
really to ramp this stuff up, and that's the reason
that they're making this management shake up to which you've referred.

Speaker 11 (18:49):
Yeah, but we have you know, a word that is
not used in any of the coverage that we see
in the corporate mainstream media is racism. You know, that
is what underpins all of this. These are just racist
moves because of the great replacement theory and this conspiracy
that the white man will not kind of continue to

(19:10):
be the majority in America and clearly in the rest
of the world. And so they've now capped the number
of people that can seek asylum at seven and a
half thousand under Joe Biden it was one hundred and
twenty five thousand, and most of those slots are going
to get filled by white South African farmers. So we
are looking at a fundamental change, turning America into a

(19:32):
a whites only I mean, remember the signs from you know,
the pre civil rights you know, the whites only signs.
That's the sign that is hanging outside of USA PLC
or ink now. And it's very unnerving. And you know,
I say this as a as a white man, but
I am married to a black American and we talk

(19:53):
about it all the time. And anybody who is, you know,
a person of color is having a completely different experience
of this period of American political history than others. And
we have to really listen to that and how it feels.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well speaking of political and cultural history, I mean, the
history is being dry cleaned of all of these civil
rights heroes. It's being dry cleaned of the sins associated
with the abridgment of civil rights historically in this country.
I mean, we've got real history that is a problem
for this nation and needs to be recognized. But no

(20:32):
one who's alive today was, you know, bought slaves. I mean,
you should feel safe in telling the story. It's not
as though in telling the story you are to blame.
But I do you know, white European settlers were to
blame for that. And this is part of America's history,
and it's a part of the history of the Western
world in many different places. And yet the aggressive effort

(20:55):
to again cleanse any sort of historical record from the
Smithsonian museums to statues that are erected or even government websites.
It's a It buttresses essentially what you're saying. I mean,
it backs up this desire to really tell just one
story of America, and it's a it's a righteous one

(21:16):
and it's always been a righteous cause, that of white Americans.

Speaker 11 (21:19):
And what you're describing is textbook authoritarianism, this process of
taking over the media and the branding at the enemy
of the people, and then you know, taking the Kennedy
Center and you know, getting rid of any diverse programming
and just putting in I don't know what Republicans can
bring to that, because you may have noticed that the

(21:40):
Maga Republicans and that kind of white Christian nationalist movement,
they have no kind of cultural interests, so they can't
do entertainment, they can't do art. It doesn't happen. All
that stuff happens in kind of the liberal arts. So
I don't know what they have for us in store
when they say that the programming, we'll just have to

(22:01):
listen to kind of Lee Greenwood sing his themes theme
tune over and over again. So there's that, But we
have to keep talking about racism because undocumented immigrants. That
is not about numbers. I mean, my sister in law
just flew across America and we were, you know, from
across the coast to the coast, and we were talking
about looking out the window and how beautiful it is.

(22:24):
And for six hours you basically look at nothing, and
yet all we hear is there's no room. There's no room.
There's no room. It's like, if you let immigrants in,
they will build, they will they will grow these cities,
they will build your hospitals and your and your infrastructure.
So you know, with one breath you've got Trump canceling
all the infrastructure projects and in the next breath saying, well,

(22:46):
there's no room for all these people. It is just
pure racism. And my worry is that we are I mean,
this is kind of it.

Speaker 9 (22:54):
Now, this is it. We have to get used to this.

Speaker 11 (22:56):
My fear is that they've infiltrated the voting systems to
a point that we won't be able to get rid
of this movement anytime soon. You know, one of Trump's
friends has bought Dominion Voting Systems, which is responsible for
fifty percent of all voting in the United States, so
they will stop at nothing. It really is a kind
of evil cabal to get rid of progressive thinking, liberalism,

(23:22):
people of color, minorities, LGBTQ plus. So whilst it might
be the undocumented immigrants and anybody else who gets caught
up in that now and you know, Venezuela to me
is a bit of a distraction. They're going to come
for the gays and the Jews next. And you know,
it's at what point do people realize that this is

(23:44):
a coup from the inside.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, I mean that's so well described, because that's the
way this appears to be gamed out. And I think
your notion about elections is the same as mine. It's
a grim one. But this is a ruthless group. And
when you look back at what he did to try
to retain power the last time, and that's without all

(24:08):
of these instruments in place, to do it this time,
it'll be a lot easier. And when I say him,
because a lot of people say, well, he's not going
to survive this term, even his health problems, et cetera.
It won't be him. Maybe then it will be them.
It will be the Maga movement, as embodied by phil
on the Blank jd Vance or you know, rising stars
in the movement, whomever. The idea somehow that they're going

(24:29):
to give up power because of an election in which
they were voted out. That's laughable to me. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (24:35):
And he said this out loud in November twenty twenty four,
just before the election. He said, you know, my biggest
regret was leaving the White House. I never should have left.
We were doing so well, he said. He was talking
about twenty twenty, of course, And so we have that.
We have well, I don't need your votes. We got
plenty of votes. You only need to vote once and
then we've got it sorted. I mean, he actually said

(24:57):
that out loud. So there is that. And as you say,
he has form in insurrectionism.

Speaker 9 (25:04):
He's done it. He's already done it. It's not like, oh,
is he willy won't he? Of course he will.

Speaker 11 (25:08):
This is all he knows. Lifelong criminality, this is all
he knows. So I just think people need to wake
the hell up. And you know, we are banging the
drama and we are trying in independent media as to
make as much noise as possible. But understand this that
the major networks, the CBS, NBC, ABC Networks. Their lips

(25:32):
are sealed. They're not able to speak as freely as
I am or you are. They just can't do it.
And so, you know, and most people don't even watch
the news or engage with the news. So I was driving,
I was driving around the other day and I was
looking at this young couple.

Speaker 9 (25:48):
They were sitting outside a ice.

Speaker 11 (25:49):
Cream parlor and they were having their ice creams, you know,
licky licky, and they were laughing and joking. And I
was listening to a podcast about Trump and the.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
Fall of you know, the fall of the West, and
I was looking at them.

Speaker 11 (26:03):
They couldn't have been more than seventeen or eighteen, and
they look so sweet and so happy and so innocent,
and I thought, I think they have absolutely no idea
whilst they're licking those ice creams. What is happening to
their own country and what future do they have without
the vote, without a democracy, without diversity, without people coming in.

(26:24):
I mean, you get rid of rid of the H
one B visa, which they've effectively done by pricing it out.
You know, the smart that the smarts from around the world,
bringing these great brains in and using them to represent America.
So there's going to be this kind of intelligence desert
in the US where there just isn't what we used

(26:46):
to celebrate. America was just first and great at stuff.
Trump has now ceded all of that to China, and
so we are we're going to get left behind, not
least with green energy and all of the things that
China is in in. You know, Trump lies, He says, Oh,
they make wind mills, but they don't use them. It's
just a lie. China is the largest producer of wind turbines,

(27:09):
not a windmill, those in Amsterdam, and the wind turbines
they use to generate energy more than any other country
in the world. He just literally lies about it, in
the same way that he thinks that the US has
got more nukes than Russia. And where he's getting his
information from. I mean, there is a theory that the
people in his orbit just say anything to him to

(27:31):
make him feel good that day and work an hour
two hour.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well, I think he says something and then they just
say right on, right, mister.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
Never heard the word no.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
He's never heard the word no. And just to your
point about China, of course, you're right. They are the
biggest polluters. We're number two, but they also are the
biggest in terms of building sustainable green energy in the world.
They clearly understand and are making that pivot. And just
because we're talking about China, it is indeed the case
that these chaotic, ridiculous, impulsive terrorf policies that Trump has

(28:02):
imposed that to fly in the face of any basic economics,
any kind of sound policy that would be developed. In
terms of international trade, they have driven most countries on
Earth closer to China. Our allies are trading partners, They're
all now closer to China than they were when Trump
came into power because America is not viewed as a

(28:24):
reliable partner.

Speaker 9 (28:25):
And you know, we would.

Speaker 11 (28:26):
Always talk about China, but we would separate its human
rights atrocities and abuses. America now is pretty much on
par with China when it comes to abductions in the
streets and putting people into these unsavory holding cells, and
over a thousand people from Alligator Alcatraz seem to have

(28:47):
just gone missing. I mean, at what point do we
acknowledge that China is leading the world. And I mean
the fact that Trump fell out with India, I mean,
India was really the great developing. It was going to
be one of the biggest customers of the United States,
and now he's kind of fallen out with him, oh
for not just over over tariffs, but a whole bunch

(29:10):
of things.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Now just found excuses to go. Yeah, he found excuses
to fall out of a love.

Speaker 11 (29:14):
That see Lorndra Modi now hanging out with Shi Jingping
and Vladimir Putin, and so again the world order has shifted,
that the Earth has shunted on its axis, all thanks
to the naivety and stupidity of one Orange Felon.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I think the naivety and stupidity are really good words
to describe his worldview because it is just that and
India this emerging superpower. Yeah, then joins the other super
powers that are supposed to her adversary's China and Russia.
Makes no sense just because of the the China conversation.
I want to touch it. Then I want to get
to Prince Andrew and I'll let you go of so
appreciate you being here. But the China trip that Trump

(29:56):
has just wrapped up, it is being spun as this
is a great victory when the reality is all he's
really done. It's sort of what he did in the
Middle East, Anthony Davis. You know, he declared, I've got
peace here. I'm ready going to head back and get
my Nobel Peace Prize. Because there was a cease fire,
and there was indeed a sea's fire, and there was
a humanitarian aid and there was a hostage exchange. But then,

(30:18):
of course there was no real plan that was going
to stick and have teeth for an enduring peace. There
was no strategy moving forward. And that's exactly what's happened
with the China deal. He goes in, he's essentially turned
the clock back to sort of come back to before
these tariffs really got imposed in a sort of withering
way that he has, and yet he's claiming victory. I mean,

(30:40):
it really has just been sort of a ceasefire as
opposed to any kind of lasting trade pact.

Speaker 11 (30:47):
Well, so there's two things here, isn't there. But the
theme with both of them, Gaza and China, is that
if it ain't broke, don't fix it. When it comes
to China, I mean, the deal that Biden had with
China was better than the one that Trump has now
renegotiated after having broken it. And this is Trump's mantra,
isn't it. This is his kind of playbook that he

(31:08):
goes in where there isn't a problem, causes one as
a flex to use one of your words, and then
claims to have won. All he cares about is the
photo op. And the pictures of them shaking hands were
very high definition and very good, right, I mean, that's
what he wanted. He wanted him. He didn't want to
be showing his kind of vaginal neck area. He wants

(31:29):
the photo to be done in the right way, and
he got his shots. And that's all he cares about.
And it was the same with Benjamint and Yahoo. It
was the same in Gaza. And once the photo is taken,
I mean, I guess it's like you know, being having
a local celebrity show up at your family fun day
in your local town.

Speaker 9 (31:49):
Right.

Speaker 11 (31:50):
They show up for as little time as possible, They
shake the mayor's hand, they have a photo taken for
the local newspaper, and then they f off and they're like,
get me out of here. And this is how it
is with Donald Trump, isn't it. He cares nothing for
the people of Gaza, He cares nothing for China. He
doesn't really know anything about it. You know, he still

(32:10):
thinks that these nations are a third world. He doesn't
seem to realize how advanced they are, and arguably Israel
and China are way ahead in so many ways. And
so once the photo's taken, then yeah, he's off. Remember
for Gaza, he had a twenty point plan apparently, but
we never knew.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
What it was.

Speaker 11 (32:29):
We just knew that point one had been achieved. And
for those of us who think critically, we were like, yeah,
well that's that's it. Then, isn't it point one done,
gone over? And now, of course the ceasefire has effectively collapsed.
So it wasn't a peace agreement. It couldn't have been,
because the Palestinians weren't involved in the negotiations. For goodness sake,
it was a temporary ceasefire for a photo.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Arp I thought the that's true. But I thought the
one thing about the Middle Eastern ceasefire that he achieved,
or his people achieved, was that he got a lot
of buying, it seemed from some Arab states who weren't
really into buying in prior to that Qatar UAE. And
then the reason for that was because it was a

(33:12):
transactional thing with Trump. They're just in business with Trump.
But however he got them. That's why I thought the
whole thing was pretty gangster.

Speaker 11 (33:19):
You know, Katar fund Hamas, Right, So if Katar is
the largest funder of Hamas, who is supposedly the enemy
in this conflict.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, oh we just lost Anthony Davis.

Speaker 11 (33:33):
The Air Force one and take photographs with him. Sure,
and be like, look at my best buddy, because this
guy is a funder of terrorism. The contradiction, the hypocrisy,
it's all there.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I mean, the one thing I'll say, I mean, only
get too much in the weeds. But I thought the
fact that Qatar does fund Hamas, does house Hamas leadership
there in Qatar, I thought that made them, if you will,
good candidates to be participants in this because they pressure Hamas.

Speaker 11 (34:02):
Supply what happened to we don't negotiate with terrorists, right,
There's that.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
And also they're terrorists on all sides, and there's corruption
on all sides, which is kind of why I thought
Trump was good for the job, because he's just corrupt
as any of them.

Speaker 11 (34:16):
I briefly had that view too. I was like, oh, well,
they're all criminals. I mean, Yahoo, you see they're in
the photo. I mean he's also trying to stay in
power because he'd be facing corruption charges and would end
up in prison, the same as Donald Trump. That's why
they formed a friendship, because they're cut from the same cloth.
But all we really need to focus on is the

(34:38):
people who are most affected by this, and it's the
people of Gaza, and it's the Palestinians, and it's obviously
the Israelis too. And the death count now in the
body count is just it keeps ticking up despite the ceasefire.
And I just worry that Trump just loves to kind

(35:00):
of play politics with a region that arguably is never
going to find lasting peace.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I think that is so true, and I think he's
playing politics with these things he knows nothing about. You know.
That's why this China trip was so interesting from the
standpoint of he thinks he can handshake which she get
a good photo, as you've said, and claim a victory,
and then somehow the details will all get worked out

(35:29):
and we'll get back to magnetic North. The reality is
China can eat our lunch because they actually do the
homework about trade and this whole tariff thing. That he
has is counterproductive, and it's driven the world to be
closer to China. It's hurt the American economy and will
continue to hurt the American economy. And now he faces
a crisis at home because they're cutting off SNAP beginning

(35:52):
tomorrow the food stamp programs. Forty two million people depend
on those programs, and he now is urging Trump is
to end the filibuster, and ironically, yeah, use what they
call the nuclear options so that they can just reopen
the government. And now you have the GOP pushing back
on that and saying that's a no deal. It's so

(36:15):
the water is rising at home as well, I guess,
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (36:19):
Well, let's be clear about the SNAP benefits. You know,
I don't believe the government will reopen potentially ever under
this administration. It's not in their interests. What they might
do is find private money, as they have done for
the military. You know, one hundred and thirty million dollar
donation from on one of his wealthy benefactors.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
That doesn't pay anything to anybody who eight like it's
like one hundred.

Speaker 9 (36:40):
Bucks per per personnel, isn't it exactly?

Speaker 11 (36:43):
But he definitely wants the air traffic controllers back at work,
and as of this week they are unpaid. Because obviously
he wants to fly his jet and his friends want
to fly their jets, and so that's something that they
might make an adjustment. But this talk now that a jet,
a federal judge could come in and rule that Congress

(37:04):
has to apportion these funds. There's five billion dollars sitting
in a safe, you know, for thest moment.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
They supposedly they've walled that off. But here he is
a word from the chat. Judges ordered the government to
continue snap benefits with the emergency money. Just happened this morning.
So sal the shoemaker Kim may have more on that. Yeah,
but the very judgment from the courts that you talk
about has been handed down, so that puts the administration

(37:32):
in kind of a tough spot.

Speaker 11 (37:33):
Also, well, the courts are still just about functioning. Most
branches of government now have fallen to the regime. The
courts are just about functioning if you get the right judge,
which again is just ridiculous, but that's how it is here.
And the Supreme Court is not really functioning as we know,
and we'll discover that more and more with these cases

(37:55):
that they're hearing, we'll probably see the end of interracial
marriage and gay marriage certain and you know that's going
to get very very messy too. But the plan is
to starve the poor and to remove the people of color.
And you know, I hate saying it out loud because
it almost it's almost too explicit. But the reason they

(38:17):
don't want to pay snap benefits is because they don't
want poor people to live. They don't need them. The base,
that whole kind of base that he used to play
to at rallies, that game is over now. He used
those people to get elected and now he's in and
he's never leaving. He doesn't need them anymore. So take
away food for the poor. He doesn't understand that people

(38:40):
need food banks. He doesn't know what a food bank is.
I think that's what point. I think he does what
a bank is. He doesn't know what the two are together.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I think he doesn't really care about these things about
but I think on some level, when he is saying
use a nuclear option to reopen government, he I do
believe he'd like to see he I think he believes
he's paying a political price and a price in terms
of his popularity for the government being closed. In other words,

(39:09):
and there's pulling to back this up. The GOP is
being blamed more for this government shutdown than are the Democrats.
But so that flies a bit in the face of
what you're saying, which is, hey, we just want to
starve those people. We don't care. I mean, I mean,
I accept that they don't care on some level, but
that might be a bit of an extreme at this point,
which I.

Speaker 11 (39:29):
Think Mike Johnson, who claims to be a Christian, cares
about people getting this that benefits no I. He does,
and he's the Speaker of the House. Admittedly he's a
Marionette puppet.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
But we think they care politically, Anthony, I guess that's
what I'm trying to say. They don't care about the
people they care about.

Speaker 9 (39:45):
They care about that either.

Speaker 11 (39:47):
You only have to worry about the politics of it
if you plan on giving people a referendum on your future.
And I honestly you know, I'm not saying they won't
be elections. Of course there will. But this is what
Putin does. He gives people elections and he keeps winning.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Sure, the fact that they're holding elections mean nothing they
hold elections and all these authoritarian replaces.

Speaker 11 (40:05):
Hip, so that that is the plan. And you know,
don't think that they're not good at this stuff. The
Republicans of out maneuver Democrats in every single stage of
this coup, and still we hear nothing from Democrats. And
yes we have some nice rumblings. We have Zoran Mamdani
in New York. We have Gavin Newsom doing his thing

(40:26):
and pushing back on social media and elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I think per is strong too, justeral.

Speaker 11 (40:31):
We have Bernie and AOC getting record crowds. But you know,
these are kind of isolated skirmishes of progressive thinking. There
isn't a kind of joined up movement. And what I
keep advocating for is the Avengers. I don't know if
you're a fan of the Marvel movies, but I would
like to see Avengers assemble. And these people are going

(40:53):
to be the governors of democratic states and the mayors
if they choose, and they form a diverse movement of
people who can be photograph because there's got to be
a photo shoot. You know, if we want to play
Trump at his own game, they've got to stand in
a beautiful, shiny floor studio and they've got to they've
got to stand with their arms fold and look at
the camera and let people know that there are a

(41:15):
dozen governors who have come together who are going to
take on this regime. And we don't have to wait
for an election cycle. We don't have to wait for
Kamala Harris to decide, Oh, will.

Speaker 9 (41:26):
She won't she? Will? She won't she?

Speaker 11 (41:28):
We need to have the Avengers assemble now and give
people some hope because there is a vacuum in leadership
and people are hurting, and and from tomorrow people will
not be eating.

Speaker 9 (41:42):
And this is very serious.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, And I think you're right to remind us that
in this media landscape, photo ops, media presence, presentation, these
are all things that are important. They're all critical to messaging. Yeah,
talk about Chuck Schumer being a good messenger, What really
are people saying he doesn't come across, Well, he doesn't
come across with strength, he doesn't come across with passion, emotion,

(42:07):
with the kind of fervor you need to lead a movement.
And I think you're however you get there, Avengers or other,
we need that to be the righteous message somehow transmitted
by that group of people, perhaps in your.

Speaker 11 (42:23):
Well, look how Trump co opted the GOP without getting
without a primary, and without anything. Really he just co
opted them, that's right. But he also cannibalized them too.
So the GOP now is Trump, and Trump is the GOP,
and that's why he doesn't go to Congress to get
ratification for any of these decisions, whether it's going to

(42:44):
war or tariffs or anything. So we almost need to
see something like that on the Democratic side, where there
is this kind of default leadership rises. And I personally
don't think it should be one person. I think it
should be a dozen people, and I want all the
good ones from Pete Butta Judge and Josh Shapiro and JB. Pritzker,

(43:06):
and they don't have to wear superhero costumes, but they
can just roll their sleeves up and make the point
that they are listening and they are doing because people
are crying out for leadership in this moment.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Two quick points. First, the Rhode Island Federal judge today
did order the US Department of Agriculture to distribute money
owed to recipients of this Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program as
soon as possible. That's a quote, and that's just one
day before, of course, the Snap benefits run out. That's tomorrow.
Judge John McConnell's ruling from the bench came shortly after
another federal judge in a separate case said that the

(43:42):
Trump administration's plan not to pay out Snap benefits beginning
tomorrow was unlawful, but stop short of ordering the Trump
administration disperse the funds. So this judge is ordering them
to disperse the funds, but the administration can appeal that,
and so you end up with.

Speaker 9 (43:58):
Take it to the Supreme Court. I mean, this is
all Trump wants.

Speaker 11 (44:02):
He's like anything that comes his way, he fires it
up the chain and his buddies will deal with that
on his behalf.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Now, I will be remiss and chased off of my
own show if I don't ask you about King Charles
and his removal of Prince Andrew's titles. Yes, and the
ejection of Prince Andrew from the Royal Lodge. Please explain well.

Speaker 11 (44:31):
As we know, Prince Andrew claimed in his infamous Awkward
interview with the BBC that he'd cut ties with Jeffrey
Epstein in twenty ten, and then we now discover this
email in twenty eleven that basically says, and I actually
i'd like to read it to your word for word
because it's actually very very interesting. He said, it would

(44:51):
seem we are in this together and we'll have to
rise above it. Otherwise, keep in close touch and we'll
play some more soon.

Speaker 9 (45:01):
Right.

Speaker 11 (45:01):
So that's the email from Prince Andrew to Jeffrey Epstein. Now,
I don't know if anyone's picked up on this, but
in the swinging community, I'm not sure if it's something
you're familiar with, my friend, but in the swinging community,
the term playing is a commonly used euphemism for sexual
activity involving more than one partner outside a person's primary relationship.

(45:23):
And so you don't write and we'll play some more soon,
unless you're talking about an orgy or similar. You just don't.
You don't use that language. Adults don't say do you
want to come out to play? That's what you say
in the nineteen fifties if you're a child in the
North of England. So I really think that we need
to recognize that. You know, Prince Andrew has basically it's

(45:51):
the closest thing I've read to an admission of guilt.
And so he's been stripped of all of these titles,
and there are a lot of them, and this will
mean a lot to him him, So he's lost Prince.
He's also lost the Earl of Infiness and the Duke
of York and Baron killer Lee, and he's lost the
Order of the Garter and the Grand the Night Grand

(46:11):
Cross of the Victorian Order, all of this stuff which
many of us British people have after our surname and
a comma we he's lost with that, and he can't
even be called prince, which I think is interesting. He'll
he'll be the he'll be the Duke formerly known as Prince.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Oh my god, that's just wonderful. I mean, it is,
it's sort of laughable. But it's a very very big deal.
Is there any Is it just that he'll be a pariah.
He's obviously a royal pariah, but that you know, he
has these ten foot polemarks all over him? Or is
there money attached to this or are there properties attached

(46:50):
to these various titles or is it just stuff that's
on a business card and a title?

Speaker 9 (46:54):
Well, he was, he was.

Speaker 11 (46:55):
He was living on the Windsor estate in a beautiful
house with thirty rooms, right so I mean he was
doing okay, yes he's losing that, but he is moving
to Norfolk, to the Sandringham estate where he will live
on one of four or five properties paid for by
King Charles.

Speaker 9 (47:13):
Still, so this is not like you or I.

Speaker 11 (47:16):
Being evicted and having our clothes thrown out in black
bags onto the street. This is him downsizing and living
a quiet life, but it will still be paid for
by King Charles and the royal family. So you know
they can't that they need to distance themselves from him

(47:36):
for the future of the monarchy.

Speaker 9 (47:37):
That is very very important.

Speaker 11 (47:39):
I personally think, and in fact some ministers in the
UK have said that because he's now not a prince,
he is fair game now for giving evidence and that
he really needs to do his due diligence because it's
what's come out in Virginia Euphra's book that really closed
the deal on this, in her posthumous book that came

(48:00):
out last week, and he knows everything.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
So I mean, just to put a kind of a
specific on that that he was involved in trying to
suppress information from her and actually was involved in seeking
those to intimidate her and to shut her up.

Speaker 11 (48:20):
That officially but it's alleged that he wanted dirt discovered
on her, so he had information on her like a
social Security number and her private address and various things
that he shared with one of his one of his
staff to kind of dig dirt. So yeah, look, he
needs to answer questions and he just needs to stop
lying basically, because that's really been the curse here. I mean,

(48:44):
do you remember that line in the interview where he
was like, well, that can't be true because I don't sweat.
And it's like, okay, we're all going to believe that
line because she described him as kind of being on
her and sweating on her, and he was like, well,
I in the Falklands, and you know, trauma means that
I don't sweat.

Speaker 9 (49:04):
And I was just like, man, really, how think of
the ego?

Speaker 11 (49:10):
I mean, he's been born into privilege, so it's difficult
for him in the same way that Trump doesn't know
food from bang.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Sure.

Speaker 11 (49:19):
The idea that just because he says that he doesn't sweat,
he needs a billion people to believe him and thinks
that he can get away with that is proof to
me of the measure of these types. You know, we
are not as humans we are not designed to be
born into such great wealth and fame. It's very unhealthy
for the psyche.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Again, in her book, she wrote that she had sex
with the Prince on three occasions, including an orgy involving
eight other young girls who appeared to be under the
age of eighteen. Didn't really speak English, she said. And
he reached a legal settlement with Gouffree undisclosed him out
in twenty twenty two after she filed a civil case

(49:59):
against him. And it's a victory again, a posthumous victory,
I suppose for her, as he's giving up these titles
and then a lot of the privileges that go with them.

Speaker 11 (50:11):
But I mean earlier he was universally hated by the
people who worked for him. And I watched an interview
I think it was an Australian sixty Minutes, which seems
to be the last bastion for journalism left in the world,
and they were asking one of his close protection officers,
former close protection officers about you know him and the
word that they use, which I can't say on your show,

(50:34):
that the word that they used to refer to the
former Prince Andrew was the worst word in the Swearing Dictionary.
That was the name they had for Prince Andrew.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Wow. Yeah, even the Secret Service doesn't use that when
they hate a president. They don't develop that harsh a
code name. Yeah. I so appreciate you stopping through and
hitting a bunch of different things with us. Love your
stuff on Minus Touch. What do you want people to
visit first? You have several different offerings, including the Substack. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (51:10):
Well, I'm trying the substack. You know, it's quite new
for me.

Speaker 11 (51:12):
In fact, I'm coming up on my anniversary because I
started it on Thanksgiving last year Giving thanks And the
idea of the Substack is I try and write a
little more personally. And I've started posting videos there as
well of me walking around outside in the contemplation garden.
But there it is, that's the garden because you know,
you're so used to kind of being in the news

(51:33):
space or me being in this kind of quarantine box,
and so to step outside, there's a little birds song
and we just chew the fat together. So that's quite nice.
So yes, please, the Anthony Davis is the Substack, and
I'd be thrilled if you would join that.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah. Absolutely, it really should be joined by all, and
we look forward to our next visit with you. You
continue to be my favorite Britisher. You retain all titles,
you always shall retain me. Yours is a righteous mission, Sir.
On your feet, everybody on the Mark Thompson Show for
the great Anthony Davis. Thank you, sir, Thank you. Wow.

(52:17):
I'm excited about that conversation which will drop as a
separate conversation that you will be able to access and
share with your friends when Albert drops it later today.
Anthony Davis is our favorite reporter, says Underdog. He's pretty terrific.
Thank you, Anthony, Thank you, Mark says Ron Sharon. I

(52:40):
like it when I'm included, you know, let's not let
us a guest completely eclipse the host. Thank you, Anthony
says Delette. Thank you, Anthony says Francine. Bye bye. Anthony
says Vilma. I'm I'm picking up on a theme here.
Anthony shows with Ron Philipowski and his interviews our top shelf.

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We're a live show or on. We start a few
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Speaker 6 (53:38):
We're being in Australia, though, did you know.

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That we are present. We do have a presence in Australia.
You're right about that. Yeah, And I love our friends
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point five because I feel we are living in Orwellian times,
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because the statistics don't match the narrative. Pete Hegseth tells
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out over the waters of Venezuela, and you just have
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where the big Brother government tells you the reality that
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also have all these different shirts born to peacefully Resist.
I love the earth on there with the green so
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got to mo Kelly on the Ronda missed super Chat
and I blame Kim for that. Of course I blame
you because it came in was apparently the first super

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chat of the day, and it was never presented to me,
And of course Ronda's angry at me. She sends that email.
She's not she's not happy.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I've received a lot of positive letters.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Wes said, I've had that happen to Ronda. If you
send the chat too early, it seems to get missed.
Would to address this, Kim?

Speaker 6 (59:02):
It sounds like a systemic issue rather than a personnel issue.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I blame you, all right, it's a systemic issue, Wes. Yeah,
it's systemic. Hypothetically, if there were a cruise ship with
a dozen drug traffickers, should we take it out? And
so long to everyone else on board? Hashtag deadly clown show,
says Luis. Yeah. The policy associated with this drug interdiction

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is absurd and it's ruthless. It's wrong, and it's not legal,
which is why no lawyers attended the congressional briefing, even
though it was all about the legal justification for these
what turned out to be extra judicial killings. There is
no judicial process underpinning any of it. With our eyes

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goddamn seconds these days? I mean, can you get it
down to five seconds? I'm an American, I need it now, now, now, now,
nine seconds. Get it down to three seconds, five seconds. No,
that's a very nice thing, and congratulations on that. The
White House is simply a building house with bumbling lunatics

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as CC Ryder, and they are injecting the world with
daily theater and propaganda. They are just producers pumping out content.
I mean, on some level, well, clearly everything you just
said is true, but on some level that is true.
They are pumping out content, pump content to distract from
the Epstein files, content to distract from economic plights. There's
all kinds of stuff going on there. But there's also destructive,

(01:01:00):
wildly destructive, brutal, ruthless policy that's being employed, and it's
being turned loose on American cities. I mean, look at
what's happening with Ice, and now Ice isn't aggressive enough
and they've shaken it up and now it's a border
patrol that is accompanying ICE and actually going to replace Ice,
and many administrative positions are going to become more brutal,

(01:01:21):
more aggressive, more arrests, more detentions. The numbers they want
to get them way up. So for all the performative
things that are going on, and there are many, it's
more than just theater. There's a real brutality here. Cc
rude of the United States has become a country of assassins.
Sadly it is true on some level. A twenty five

(01:01:42):
dollars super chat from Nick Davola. Wow, Nick, Hi, Nick,
I'm just happy Kim is awake for this show.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
What yes, thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Did you you want to speak to that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
How are you all right? Does smash the like button
for us as we move on? That's our more he
is I would say, you know, one of the things
occasionally life treats you well, and one of life's gifts
is that mo Kelly is able to participate in this

(01:02:23):
show in some modest way. I love as much of
mo Kelly as I can get. He is brilliant, He
gives you great, clean takes on what's going on, and
he's not afraid of taking courageous positions. In the face
of what can often be some pretty strong political headwinds.
How about it warm welcome from Mo Kelly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Good to see you, Good afternoon. Kim could talk to
you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yeah, Kim gets a shout out from mo Kelly.

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
Mo.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Where to start? I'm going to begin with what is
happening in Washington and the stalemate around keeping the government open. Now,
there was just a judicial ruling from an appeals court
judge saying the SNAP Emergency fund has to be tapped

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to keep SNAP going. That literally just happened within the hour. YEP,
that decision, I presume is going to be appealed, and
it seems that this government really doesn't want to tap
those funds. Is there a perverted rationale behind that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I believe And this has been said by others, so
I can't claim it to be mine, but I believe
that the cruelty is the point part of the reason
why MEGA is so popular amongst many in America. I
can't even say just MEGA. There are people who are
very quietly MEGA. Part of the appeal is that it
is punishing and punitive to people who they think they

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are getting over, be it people of color, be it
undocumented immigrants. If they feel that they are sticking it
to those groups of people, then it is preferential. And
so it's not bad politics if you will, for MAGA,
the President Republicans to espouse these policies to not get

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in the way of them hurting other people. And this
is part and parcel of the whole immigration debate. So
I understand, even though it's going to be held up
in the courts, even though there's going to be different appeals,
all this is good from the standpoint of the optics
for those who support MAGA.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
And there's a significant enough group of people who are
giving the thumbs up to this kind of thing that,
as you say, the base there, it's significant enough in
number for it to be a political win for them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
It is a political win, if only because they pride
themselves on all of these things which hurt other groups.
Now you can make the argument easily that, hey, you know,
most of the people who on SNAP are probably from
red states, which is true, but the reality and also
the perception never seem to actually meet in a lot

(01:05:09):
of these policy positions by MAGA. It amazes me how
those who are Republicans oftentimes vote against their own interests
and they're voting to hurt themselves. And if you believe
the Republican Party it's only black people who are on
assistance federal assistance, that it's only brown people who are

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legal immigrants. But as long as the visuals are that
brown people are the ones who are being harassed, the
ones who are being rounded up, the ones that are
being mistreated, then any immigration policy will be acceptable to
those who support MAGA. And if you believe, going back
to Ronald Reagan and the whole welfare queen idea, if

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you believe that most black people or the predominant number
of people who are on SNAP, or black people who
are freeloaders, who are lazy and who are are not
just deserving a federal assistant, if you happen to believe that,
then it's okay if Step is cut off.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Wow, there is pushback now from some members of the
GOP coalition that you wouldn't necessarily think would break with
that coalition. Albert, do you have the wrap package from
this morning on the stalemate in Washington? And then I'll
give you a little of Marjorie Tayler Green if she's

(01:06:27):
not included in this package, because she is pretty high
profile now in saying, hey, use the nuclear option, let's
get rid of the philibuster, and Trump is saying the
same thing. Here's a little bit from this morning.

Speaker 9 (01:06:37):
Go ahead, Michael.

Speaker 12 (01:06:38):
President Trump is now calling for a major change in
how the Senate operates. He issued a series of statements
on social media overnight. He called the Democrats quote stone
cold crazy and is calling on the Senate to eliminate
the filibuster. This would be a change that would allow
Republicans to pass spending bills without a single Democratic vote.

(01:07:02):
The President in his statement said this was the nuclear option,
and politically it sure is. Republicans have long opposed eliminating
the filibuster. In fact, just recently a Senator John Thune,
he's the Republican leader in the Senate. Instead eliminating the
filibuster quote, we should avoid that at all costs. But Michael,

(01:07:22):
of course, you should never underestimate the ability of Donald
Trump to get Republicans in Congress to do exactly what
he wants them to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah, they are pushing back on him, o Kelly, but
you're seeing more and more high profile GOP members of Congress.
In this case, you know, she's in the House. But
she's got a pretty big sort of social media following
and a gaggle of reporters because she says a lot
of crazy crap. Marjorie Taylor Greene of pushing them as well.

(01:07:52):
Here she is talking about this.

Speaker 13 (01:07:55):
I see the shutdown completely different from maybe my party
later ship, and I'm not putting the blame on the president.
I'm actually putting the blame on the Speaker and Leader
Thoon in the Senate. We control the House, we control
the Senate, we have the White House. I've been vocal saying,
you know, you can use the nuclear option in the Senate.

(01:08:16):
This doesn't have to be a shutdown. I absolutely support
the president. I campaigned for him for years. But I'm
also an action person and I want my party to
solve problem. And you say, if he's not getting good
advice though you told Monty Rawjy what specifically, Well, I
don't think it's good advice that a government shutdown is
going to help Republicans in the midterms. I don't agree

(01:08:37):
with that. I also don't think it's good advice that
Republicans ignoring the health insurance crisis is going to be
good for midterms. I actually think that would be very
bad for midterms.

Speaker 7 (01:08:47):
I see the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Yeah. So she mentions the price of health care in
this country and insurance. Of course, that is something that
she has remarked on prior, like she's in her family
feeling the pinch from the cast associated with healthcare. Speak
to the stalemate, and they use of the nuclear option
and kind of how you game this shout sure.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
First, you know, Marjorie Taylor Green was doing her best
impression of Jack Kemp, posing as a moderate Republican for Halloween.
I say that to say, that's not who she is.
It's a costume and she will take off that costume
at a later date. But that said, I can appreciate
the appearing honesty, the seeming honesty of what she's saying,

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and I'd agree with what she's saying now. As far
as the nuclear option is concerned with the Senate, it
says that you'll be able to pass things in the
Senate by simple majority. I don't want to get into
all culture and all that. I don't want to get
two deep in weeks, but very simply, back in twenty thirteen,
Harry Reid used a nuclear option so they could for
Senate confirmations, and then in twenty eighteen they used a

(01:09:54):
nuclear option for a Supreme Court justice nominees, and that's
how we got Neo Gorse. So there have been times
in history where the nuclear option has been used, but
it has not been used for budgetary items such as this.
If they used the nuclear option here, now there's really
no going back, and then you will find that the Republicans,

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at least until the end of this term congressional term,
will be able to put through anything they want on
a senatorial level. Now that's good in the short term,
but the concern is as far as the nuclear option, Well,
there's an election coming. The midterms are coming, and historically
Democrats have had control of the Senate more often than Republicans,

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and the Republicans are saying, let's not be too short
sighted here. We may get what we want right now
in the short term, but come twenty twenty six or
twenty twenty eight, it may be the exact reverse. And
given the partisanship, if the Democrats should get the Oval
Office and should get control of the Senate, that's going
to be holy hell for Republicans.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
You know, Michael Shore is out this week and he
normally would join you here, and he's kind of big
on predictions. So I'm going to foist a question onto
you that I might actually would normally get tossed to
a shore's way, and that is, as you game this out,
do you have any sense are you even ready to
predict how long this is going to go on? And
when does the government reopen? Mo Kelly?

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Look, I don't want to be a defeatist, but I
don't see the government reopening prior to the Christmas holidays,
and even then it might be iffy, if only because
Speaker Mike Johnston has given no indication that he's even
going to call the House Republicans back, and the Senate,

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with the exception of the nuclear option, is nowhere close
to sixty votes and they're not negotiating, so there's nothing
on the table for anyone to even consider. So I
don't want to be defeatist, but if this went into
the calendar New Year, I would not be surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Wow. And so it's a flaw in the governmental machine
that so many people can be compelled to work. Air
traffic controllers the highest profile perhaps and TSA agents, and
there are a bunch of park police like reinforcing sort
of the skeletal crew around national parks, et cetera, and

(01:12:16):
so on. I mean, there are people working at the irs,
they're kind of again, these are skeleton crews everywhere. None
of them are getting checks. This, as I say, seems
to be a governmental flaw given the fact that we
revisit these closures all too frequently.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Can you imagine the holiday season with not enough air
traffic controllers. That's what we actually have to ponder. There
is a real serious concern and danger to everyday Americans
like you and me if this shutdown should go into
the holidays.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
And let's not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Forget the Republicans. If you believe their messaging, and if
they believe their own messaging, they believe they're winning the shutdown.
So if that's true, then there's no real serious reason
to come to the table and negotiate in good faith.
And the Democrats are not going to be seen as
the ones who caved once again. And we know Leader

(01:13:12):
Schumer is not going to cave once again because he's
fighting for his own political life and he'll probably have
some sort of primary opponent, maybe AOC someone else. But
there's no reason for either side to rush to the
table and find some sort of solution. And I say
this with all respect to Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries. I

(01:13:33):
believe he's messaging outside the reality. And what I mean
by that is he's giving you the message that the
Democrats want to negotiate, want to negotiate, but he's saying
that knowing good and well that the Republicans aren't really
going to come to the table and then call the
Democrats bluff.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of that in Washington, the where
you found it on the Senate side around tariffs, where
you guys have had the vote on the Brazilian tariffs
when the reality is, you know, the House isn't there,
you can vote anyway you want. I mean, it's totally performative.
Show me a little Mike Johnson, will you, Albert? I
wanted to share that with Moe Kelly. He's holding the
line and he seems as dug in as you describe him.

Speaker 10 (01:14:09):
Go ahead, Albert, I haven't the present's been very busy.
He was in Asia doing all these trade agreements. I've
been a little busy, as you know. We haven't spoken
since he returned a Sentema text earlier this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
I saw that as well.

Speaker 10 (01:14:20):
What you're seeing is an expression of the president's anger
at the situation. He is as angry as I am
and the American people are about this madness, and he
just desperately wants the government to be reopened so that
all these these resources can flow to the people who
need it so much. Look, I'll just say this in general,
as I've said many times about the filibuster, it's not

(01:14:40):
my call. I don't have a say in this. It's
a Senate Chamber issue. We don't have that in the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
House, as you know.

Speaker 10 (01:14:46):
But the filibuster has traditionally been viewed as a very
important safeguard. If the shoe was on the other foot,
I don't think our team would like it. The Democrats. Look,
they've said what they would do. They would pack the
Supreme Court, they would make Puerto Rico and in DC States,
they would ban firearms, they would do all sorts of

(01:15:06):
things that would be very harmful for the country. And
the safeguard in the Senate has always been the filibuster.
But again, not my issue, not something I get to
even weigh in on. My opinion on this is not relevant.
It's the senators. But I think that it just is
another expression of the frustration of the pressure that has
been fell out to anger by the President and by

(01:15:28):
me and all of us that we're in this situation
at all. Do your basic job.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
I'm going to say this again, we have put zero.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Okay, this is more about now, it's just about it's humor, shutdown,
et cetera. And Salva Shoemaker reminds us that Trump said this,
I think it would be if there was a shutdown,
I think would be a tremendously negative mark on the
President of the United States. He's the one that has
to get the people together. He said that on the
Today Show in twenty eleven. So we are where we are,

(01:15:58):
and I think you summarize it so well. There's not
political incentive for either shod to kind of back down.
But the price that Americans are paying is a real one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
No, it is, and both sides are pushing their chips
into the table, banking on the blame to somehow absolve
them of the responsibility after the fact. Me personally, me politically,
I completely disagree with that. And I don't think that
there's any winner in a shutdown. Now, there are degrees
of damage. I believe that the Democrats may be damaged

(01:16:27):
less coming out of the shutdown, but under no circumstances,
what I would say that it's a good look for
what the Democrats are doing. And I have to remind
people I'm an independent. I'm just calling balls and strikes.
I'm not rooting for a side here. But I'm aware
of the consequences of what the shutdown is going to
mean for you and for me and for everyone else.

(01:16:48):
And if the country should open up a week from now,
two weeks from now, I'm not going to run around
and say, hey, congratulations Democrats. I'm not going to say
that because I know that people are being harmed right
now in this moment. People are suffering financially. And that's
saying nothing of what the opening of the country would
mean in the sense of healthcare and other policies. We

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don't know beyond opening the country what that's going to
look like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
It's interesting too, I think, just to note, and I'll
just state it bluntly, I believe in government. I believe
government can do a lot of good things for a
lot of people. It doesn't mean that all government is good.
It also doesn't mean that I embrace like some of
the bureaucratic nonsense that goes on. I mean, you can
see some of the stuff of government, now that's just awful.

(01:17:35):
But the idea that government can lift people up who
need a lift, I passionate, believably believe that that is
one of the great aspects of America is that we
do provide for people. I mean, with all the flaws,
the government, if working well, can do some good things.
I mean, I look at Jamaica today and I see
the horrible loss of life there from this terrible hurricane,

(01:17:58):
and I think, wow, it will be great if USAID
still existed. It would be great if these people who
are trained in this country to handle natural disasters like
this could help those people, because those people are real people,
and America is a nation that used to stand for
that kind of thing, reaching out and lifting others up.

(01:18:19):
So there's a lot wrapped up in government, and to
have the government closed is a net negative without question.
And I think you speak well to the fact that
there are real costs being paid by real Americans. And
at the end of it, all those Americans have paid
that cost, so it's not as though they can go
back and back pay the Americans who really took the

(01:18:43):
hit during the closure.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
There was a comment I saw Ronda Abrams who said that, hey,
the Montgomery bus boycott I'm paraphrasing, took over a year,
that Democrats should hang in there. I don't agree with
that analogy. And for those who don't know, in nineteen
fifty five Rosa Parks Montgomery bus boycott, it lasted about
a little bit over a year, about a year and
a month, and it brought to the bus company lines

(01:19:06):
to its knees. But that was a small community. We're
talking about maybe a couple of one hundred or thousand
African Americans. You can't use that with respect to the
rest of the country when you're talking about three hundred
and forty million and riding the bus even back then
was a choice. During the Montgomery bus boycott, they had

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people who were helping caravan people, They're giving people rides.
You don't have that same option today when you're talking
about being able to make it from week to week
to put food on the table, snap benefits and what
have you. I understand that people want me to root
against MAGA. I'm just telling you this is where the
country is headed. And these are some of the pitfalls

(01:19:49):
which are in front of us. And no, I don't
support MAGA, but I'm not here rooting. This is not
a sport. I'm saying that America is going to lose
regardless of who you support, the longer the shutdown goes on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Now to the China trade deal. Donald Trump created a
huge storm of issues around the economy and around trade.
These chaotic, in my judgment, tariffs. They're inexplicable. You can't
do any math that even applies to them. They set
up a system of patronage where countries come to the

(01:20:26):
President of the United States and they try to make
a deal. Here's what's in it for you, Donald Trump,
Here's what's in it for you, America. Can you give
us some trade relief? And so it is, with China
having cut off their soybean consumption, having sought other markets
for the soybean consumption, specifically Brazil and Argentina, and American

(01:20:48):
soybean farmers were left holding the bag. Trump was damaging
his own constituency on some level and his own economy, right,
you know, cutting off China effectively cut them off completely,
is a brutal blow to the American economy and to
the Chinese economy to be fair. So both these leaders
had an interest in getting some kind of rapproach man going,

(01:21:09):
which they got. It seems to me like it was
just sort of a cease fire kind of what they
got in the Middle East, you know, with I will
work out the details later. For now, let's just do
a swap with the hostages and get humanitarian relief in
Let's look at what they actually got. They got some
tepid resumption of soybean consumption from the Chinese, and it

(01:21:30):
seems as though they also got some chips on the
tech side from the Americans to the Chinese. It looks
as though America gets to reopen these markets a bit,
and you have a relationship with China that you had
like back in January, you know, when Trump was first
coming into office. So he has gone through all of

(01:21:52):
this just to sort of turn the clock back a
few months.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
You beat me to that point, mark. And there's this
children's story, I can't remember the name of it, about
this farmer who couldn't go to sleep, and then the
doctor comes in and tells the farmer, Okay, why don't
you add this animal to your bedroom and then this animal,
this animal, and it gets louder and louder, and long
story short as they say, okay, now remove this animal,
and remove this animal, use this animal, and then eventually

(01:22:16):
the farmer can sleep soundly. And what happens is you've
added to a problem and then subtracted to it and
say you've then solved the problem. It's like Malcolm X
who said, you know, you stab someone in the back
with a seven inch knife and then you pull it
out two inches and then you claim like that's an improvement. Yeah,
but who stabbed them in the first place? Who created

(01:22:37):
this situation? How did we get here? And if you
want to talk about soybeans, it's like, okay, so they're
buying some of the soybeans, but not as much as
they were to your point back in January. And we've
given them more of our technology than we had back
in January, and the farmers are suffering more now than
back in January. So, I mean, this is the ridiculous

(01:22:58):
idea that he is this great deal maker. No, he's
transactional for the moment, not transformational. Well, you can say
he's transformational as far as what he's done to the country,
But yes, you look at this country on January nineteenth,
across the board, with the exception of the stock market.
Give him the stock market, but everywhere else, as far

(01:23:19):
as this economy, it's worse.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Well, deniably. It's funny just because you mentioned the stock market,
you'll remember the stock market at all time, Hige, during
the Biden administration and during the Biden end, that is
to say, prior to the election. And then all you
heard from the GOP is, well, the stock market's not
the economy. The stock market's not, which it was true,
I mean, the stock mark, not the economy, all right,
But now when it's pretty much all you have, all

(01:23:45):
you hear about is how the stock market's are record highs, etcetera.
Of course it's being held up by a tremendous AI
investment and all the rest. But back to the main point,
which is Trump's been an arsonist, and now that he's
gone around and put out a few fires, he's talking about,
aren't I great you I'm a firefighter. It's just absolute insanity.
And the spin on the Chiny thing, the spin on
the China thing is so consistent with Trump, you know,

(01:24:08):
it's wave the trophy. Take the photo, the handshake, and
then enough of your media machine will support you back
at home that you don't really need to worry about
the details and what you've talked about, and.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
You talk about Maga. Most people in Maga, now, yes
I'm generalizing, they don't care about the details. They care
about the optics. The optics are that, hey, Trump made
a deal with China, Trump did something that helped soybean farmers.
That is the headline. That is not the body of
the article. And if you don't read the article, you
don't have the perspective. You don't have the economic reference

(01:24:44):
point where we were and as now where we are.
And unfortunately, we're not dealing in the time in which
facts matter. We're not dealing in a time in which
people are actually going to read that proverbial article, and
they're not actually interested in policy. They're interested in proclamations,
and they will believe whatever the president tells in regardless
of what the facts say.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
That's just so well said. It's identity politics on a
level we really haven't seen before in the modern age.
I want to ask you about Venezuela. Looks as though
there's going to be some bombings. This is according to
new reporting from the Miami Herald that they're apparently preparing
for strategic bombing missions inside Venezuela. What's happening down there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Well, it seems like we're declaring war without actually declaring war.
Whereas before we were just shooting missiles at boats, now
we're talking about actually strikes, airstrikes on sovereign soil in
Venezuela military basis, under the pretense of it being some

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sort of cartail infrastructure. And I just tell people, let's
just reverse that. Imagine another country, any question, any country
bombing American military faciees within the borders of our country,
a sovereign nation under the pretense of stopping this or
stopping that, that instantaneously would be an act of war.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Yeah. This is also, it seems to me, a very
tenuous kind of relationship that Trump has suggested, is between
Venezuela and drug trafficking. I think we talked a bit
about it last time. You know, if you read about
how drugs are traffic now, it's just not all on
these boats out of Venezuela or something. There's so many middlemen.

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It's become so sophisticated now that this is really a
very old school way of looking at at drug trafficking.
If there even is drug trafficking going on a lot
of these vessels, I mean, you just have to take
the guess the word of the Pentagon.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
If people, and I'm a student of history, anytime there's
any type of similar mission or military strike, what usually
would happen is the Pentagon would come out after the fact,
and whether you believe the Pentagon or not, they would explain,
this is what we had, this is what led up
to the strike, this is how we conducted it. You
got that after the killing of Osama bin Laden and

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so forth, you at least had some sort of record
of what happened, why, who was responsible, and then the
decisions leading up to the president making that decision. We
don't get that anymore. We just get told after the
fact they were drug dealers and that's.

Speaker 9 (01:27:28):
The end of it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
And I don't know how or why this country accepts that.
This is exactly how wars are started. And again, if
you go back to the nineteen eighties, Mark and you
kind of made this point, drugs got into this country
not by boat but by plane and any number of

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i'll say combination of transportation sources is not on a
boat coming into the state of Florida. And put it
this way, Let's say the first boat was actually drug traffickers,
the next boat would not be because we're talking about
hundreds of millions of dollars in theory. You don't keep

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putting your drugs out there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Yeah, you're saying it would have a chilling effect on
other boat missions, right, Guys, you didn't get the memo
they're bombing boats, right, So yeah, you end up with
and we know that they're fishermen that were being taken
out because some of their widows have come forward and
stated as much so. And we've returned a couple of
people who survived these boat attacks to their countries of origin.

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Why would we do that up to these narco terrorists.
Last thing in my last minute or two with you is,
as we're speaking now, it is Halloween. The Halloween night
is coming, and Governor Pritzker has literally been pleading with
the Department of Helmeland Security. Queen this Christine Nome who
likes to dress up in camo and carry around those

(01:28:58):
assault rifles and look tough and talk tough. He's begging
her to give Chicago a break for a lot of
trick or treaters who are innocent kids, who are literally
just going house to house. But we've seen the brutality
and the ruthlessness. Really, I'll just use that word that
these ice agents have had, and now they'll be joined

(01:29:18):
by even more aggressive, even more ruthless troops from the
Border Patrol. And Pritzker is saying, please, just let these
kids go through Halloween. Can we not have a Halloween
in peace? It's been a peaceful Halloween historically in Chicago.
Leave us alone, and she's saying, hell no. You know,
if you've got a problem with our policy, take it
up with the President of the United States. We're here

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to do a job.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
The cruelty is the point. That's the whole point of
all this. The Trump White House is welcoming. They want
the images of parents of trick or treaters, and if
some kids get caught up in it as well, that's okay.
Being taken down. They know that parents will be taken
their children from the neighborhood to the neighborhood. Not only

(01:30:02):
are they exposed, but their children are exposed. It's the
whole point, and that plays well on Fox News, on Newsmax,
on oan all of those networks. They want the visuals,
and the reason they want the visuals is because it's
not going to happen to anyone who is in white.
It's I'm saying, it's not gonna happen to anyone who

(01:30:23):
is white. It's just not going to happen. It's okay
if it happens to me, that happens to someone who
happens to be brown, is not going to be someone
who overstayed their visa who happens to be from Europe.
That's why. And that message plays well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Yeah, it's and it's only the beginning. I remind everybody
that it starts in that way and then it extends
to dissidence and bigger and bigger circles that gets swept
up until you know, we know how it ends.

Speaker 8 (01:30:55):
Uh Mo.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Next week is a beginning Wednesday, You're going to be
hosting this show. Yeah wait, I'm really excited looking forward
to interacting with the audience as much as you want to.
Kim will of course make everything uh work. Albert'll be
here Thursday and Friday next week, Tony's here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
But uh it's dreamy man, I mean for me. It's

(01:31:20):
really a treat to have you doing it. So thank
you and thank you for being part of things on Fridays.
Love talking to you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
I'm going to try to fill your shoes but I
probably won't, but thank.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
You for all that sweet of you to say mo Kelly.
Everybody thanks mo. Yeah. I need Kim, I need you
to step it up a little bit for mo Kelly
next week. I can't have you, trust me.

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
I mean, my work level is going to kick into
high gear.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Yeah what I Truss Kelly?

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
You see so yeah, milas says Mark Thompson's show, and
mister mo Kelly, don't participate in the gas lighting. It's
not about Venezuelan and drug trafficking. It's all about Venezuelan oil.
That's interesting in this country. Does a lot of the
with Trump there there could be some transactional things related
to oil. I guess yeah, maybe the realities around Venezuela

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are strange to me. But I know a lot of
people voted in Trump. I mean I know a lot
of lefties who thought, oh, he's going to end the
wars and then thinking what are you talking about? But
he is the most basic, toxic masculine flex and the
military works so well with that, and it's exactly what's happening.

(01:32:40):
I mean, they almost dress up in camo in their
spare time. That's their thing, the fetishizing of the military.
We changed the Department of Defense the Department of War.
They can't wait to smack talk nations that I get

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it may be involved in the drug trade on some level,
but certainly that level does not rise to that level
which would require military interdiction. Plus the kind of drug
in addiction that we've done has been done through law enforcement.
I mean, this is this idea that you just, you know,
ramp up an aircraft carrier. It's crazy, but it's very

(01:33:25):
much on brand for this crew.

Speaker 6 (01:33:27):
It's from a female perspective, it all seems very testosteroney.
You know, we're going to resume our nuclear tests, We're
going to blow up these boats, We're going to do
all these military things all of a sudden, and it
just seems very like we need to show ever the
world that our package is rather large.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
No, that's exactly right. I mean I think it is
very masculine, toxic masculinity, as I say, I think that's
absolutely true. It's very basic. But you know this is
it's an unsustainable and really poorly gamed out plan. I
don't think they've gamed out, as I was making mentioned
at the beginning of the show, what's going to happen

(01:34:05):
after this you go into Venezuela, or even if you
just go into Venezuela with tar targeted bombing on various
military installations. How have you gamed out how that's going
to go. You want to take on Venezuela, Columbia, What
exactly is the strategy here in the blueprint moving forward?
None of that has been figured out. I promise these
guys are a shoot first and asked questions later crowd.

(01:34:29):
You know the nuclear testing where they don't even realize
that that which has been articulated as nuclear testing by
other nations isn't nuclear testing. They're testing the delivery system,
they're testing missiles. They're not detonating a nuclear device. There's
been no nuclear device detonated by Russia, China, or the
US since the nineties. Yet Trump didn't really get all

(01:34:52):
the information, and he's like, wow, I mean yeah, I
want to keep up with them. I want to test
the way and and hag Seth, here's just a pretty
face who talks tough, you know, puts down his drink
for a second, jumps out of the makeup room at
the Pentagon and goes, yes, sir, absolutely, sir, We're gonna
test those nukes for you, sir. Venezuela nationalize their vast

(01:35:13):
oil reserves to benefit the people of that country. Exxon
Chevron at Al want the US to install a puppet
regime to privatize that oil. Drugs are a cover story,
says Mila. Well, if that's true, you'll need more than
just targeted military strikes to make that happen. So we'll see.

(01:35:39):
But I have important work to do on this show.
First of all, I must remind you to smash that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Like buds with your iron rod.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
We try to bring you some takes on the show,
some people to weigh in on this show, some views
of what's happening in the world that you may not
get anywhere else, or if you get them somewhere else,
you only get you have to go to a lot
of different places to get them. Sometimes I think we
can be a curing house of some really good stuff
that we source across the world. Anthony Davis Great takes

(01:36:11):
will drop that as a separate video today Moe Kelly,
Same story. Michael Shore returns next week with Mo and Yes.
The big news that I have to get to is
associated with a feature that we started on the radio.
You know, this is a radio show originally that we
brought from the radio to YouTube, and we were on

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in San Francisco, a very popular radio show. But then
the whole station went away and we were washed down
the tubes with it. It's came over here under cover
of darkness and we were able to get it going.
We came with the people who were on our show,
Albert Kim Tony we picked up in La but the
culture Blaster Snyder, he was on in San Francisco, Gary Dietrich,

(01:36:59):
he was on. He came with us, David Kate Johnston
came over with us. And we're really excited that you've
supported us. Many of you so appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
One of the features that we had on the show
focuses on a state which, let's be honest, seems to
serve up a little of the offbeat, lawless and drugged out.
To be fair, I think a lot of states fall

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into this category. We just focus on one. This is
Friday Fabulous Florida.

Speaker 8 (01:37:35):
It's time for a Friday Fabulous Florida. There is a
ga alligator in a look at the weirdest stories from
our weirdest state.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
I'll invite the culture blaster Michael Snyder in for this
as well. If you want to chime in on any way, Michael,
you can. You're welcome always. I appreciate that, yes, but
you were not obligated to. Six nudists are arrested. What
they bared? All on the wrong Florida beach, says the sheriff.
Oh yep, Daniel Harrison seventy seven. Wow. I don't want

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to see that Donald Knapp seventy four, nor that Gataine Lambert,
Stephen Mark kenke Elmer kwant and Nicholas Ramos, who's twenty seven.
So there's oh yeah, twenty seven. I'll take that. I
don't want to see people in their seven what nude?
I don't mean, by the way, with older bodies, well,

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I just think that they're not typically maybe the Golden Bachelor,
but I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:38:43):
Know they're kissed by the Florida sun Mark.

Speaker 9 (01:38:45):
Come out?

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Now you're right, you know what? I take that back?
I maybe these people actually would would you like to apologize.
What she would I would like to apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
I look at them, I think, you know what, they
look hot, and I'd like to see them naked, right, yeah, yeah,
so hideous, my mad I'm sorry, all right, The Sunburnt
Family Jewels says a truth check. Indeed, they do look
pretty good for people in their seventies, maybe, John says. Anyway,
more to it. The arrest came after the Sheriff's off

(01:39:16):
has said that it got numerous complaints regarding unauthorized nudity
at the Little mud Boat Ramp area in Fort Pierce
that's off the Jimmy Buffett Memorial Highway for those who
are trying to orient themselves. The nudists supposedly started hanging
out in the wish they wouldn't say, hanging out in
the new spot because their usual haunt, Blind Creek Beach,

(01:39:39):
which is a designated clothing optional location, has been undergoing
a renovation. The parking area at blind to Creek Beach
is being paved, you see, and so it's closed. So
while that's going on, some of these nudists are attempting
to relocate, and they're ending up outside the permitted.

Speaker 6 (01:39:59):
Air frolicking in the Mud and Mud Creek.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Yeah. Some people at Little Mud Creek Beach said they
had no problem with the nudis on the beach. Others
say they didn't like it. One woman who didn't give
her name, said, you would find it upsetting if you
saw somebody here naked on this beach. It would be odd. Yes,
because young families could be here. In the reality the

(01:40:24):
sign does say you have to be clothed or in
a bathing suit. They were each charged and released five
hundred dollars cash bond.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Yeah, unclear when they'll be seen in court. I know
they will have to be clothed for that. Preceding Florida
man arrested after hitting a deputy's vehicle. He failed a
DUI test, according to authorities. Yep, I'd be willing to
bet my lunch that there's alcohol involved. Proof that there

(01:40:57):
was alcohol involved. The Banell man was rested after authority
said that he struck a Putnam County Deputies patrol car.
Later failed sobriety tests, and the crash happened near the
county line while a deputy was assisting a disabled vehicle.
Deputy said the silver Ford F one fifty driven by
Michael Natali, he's forty two years old, hit the deputy's

(01:41:22):
patrol car, damaging its mirror. Then he continued driving. The
deputy followed the truck for about a mile, and then
the truck stopped. Natalie reportedly fell asleep in his vehicle
while waiting for the deputies to arrive. Deputy said he
then stumbled, smelled of alcohol, had glassy bloodshot eyes. There

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he is Michael Natali. I'll give you a chance to
evaluate his booking photo on the Mark Thompson Show booking meter.
A seven says to let a six to a seven
says Phineas, A six says gone fishing at seven says Tammy.
William Lungern gives him a seven. It looks like he's
weighing in around a seven.

Speaker 10 (01:42:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:42:05):
Everyone, he's a good looking guy, but he's an angry drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
I think he looks like one of those tough guys
that you like Kim. You know, Kim likes the bad boys,
and I think maybe he's one of those.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
That's one of the cars you don't want to hit. Also, like,
if you're gonna be drunk driving, you don't want to hit.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Yeah, you don't want to try not to sideswipe a
cruiser from the cops. A Florida man with a thermos
inserted in his body is caught sneaking it into the
Polk County jail. He as the sheriff. Grady Judge said,
he put it up the exit ramp. Yeah, we had

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this story once before.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
But we did. But it's so good that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
I don't mind. This place is fun.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Actually, you guys actually think this wouldn't happen twice in Florida, Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
That's true. It's possible that what happened again a Florida
man who's no straining the law wound up back in
jail and he was a Grady Judge front and center
talking point during one of his morning briefings. Judge said,
the whole thing began with the complaint about a naked
man at a park, and apparently this naked guy, there's

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a lot of nudity in Florida today, Walter Freimeyer fifty one,
had all his clothes on, so the deputy just escorted
him out of the park. He wasn't the nude guy
that the reports had initially indicated he was, the deputy
explained to FREYIMERI there wasn't going to be arrested even
though people saw him without any clothes on, because this
cop was giving him a break. Freimeyer then crossed the street,

(01:43:42):
hopped on the railroad track, and trespassed again, so the
deputy arrested him. Freymeyer had prior arrests. How many prior
arrests did Freimeyer had? This is the guy who's been
arrested before. How many prior arrests did this gentleman who
trespassed and was reported nude? How many prior arrests did

(01:44:05):
he have?

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
I'm looking at the at the mugshot. I'm saying twelve. Yeah,
it doesn't be a lot. Yeah, five, says gone's fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
I think nineteen is there? It's seventeen says John Watson.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
The amber.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
The actual retail price twenty five prior arrests?

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
Oh wow, Yeah, guy was busy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
Guy was the over under for incarceration. He's been to
state prison before. How many times has he been to
state prison? Oh? My god, how many times has he
been to twenty five? Kathleen Brian got the how many
times it to actually go from arrest to prison? You
have to be convicted? How many times has he been
to state prison? Five? Is right? Oh look at that, yeah,

(01:44:55):
very well done. The sheriff explained that all these arrestees
are put through a body scanner to make sure that
they aren't trying to bring guns or knives or drugs
into the jail. And Freimeier went through the body scanner
and they said, look, there's something inside him, and inside
him was a thermos. Grady Judge said, wow, you know,

(01:45:20):
how did he put that inside his body? He didn't
swallow it? And this was.

Speaker 6 (01:45:27):
Talking around like this like he was moving around and
running from police, right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
At least walking quickly from police. Yes, we had to
take him to the hospital, Grady Judge said. What he's
got going here is a situation. They had to find
a specialist, a special thermist removal specialist. It was quite
the ordeal. But he's and this is a quote thermost
less in the county jail today and that.

Speaker 6 (01:45:52):
Case of emergency surgery like that, you can't that's not
just a something little, I mean that's in your abdominal cavity.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
That's horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:46:02):
That's many times he's been to prison, like he's cooked
us up. Probably on the twenty fourth try he was like, I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
Think I could do this.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
If you can find my car keys, I can drive
us out of here. All right. So here is the
recap of what you found in Friday. Fabulous Florida. You
have six nudists arrested for bearing it all on the
wrong Florida beach to do that. A Florida man arrested
after hitting a deputy's vehicle and failing the DUI test.
A Florida man with the thermos up his rear exit ramp,

(01:46:36):
exit ramp, and and he then takes the incarceration to
a whole new level. We don't want to pick a favorite,
but we must, and I ask you, what's your favorite?
Michael Snyder Rmousmoss, he likes the thermid, Kim, how about you?

Speaker 6 (01:46:52):
I realized we've had the story before, but it doesn't
get old. Indeed, with Michael Snyder a thermos.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Thermis, Albert, how did it do it? In the online.

Speaker 4 (01:47:04):
Poll, everybody's liking the thermos. I do like the nudity story.
I just like them all agreeing to shed the shed
the clothes and people just the normal people around that area.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Just chaplain. Fred agrees with you. He likes the nudity excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
It's good to see a little diversity of opinion. My
question is was the thermis meant to keep a liquid
warm or cold? I just can't even image.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Yeah, nicked seniors for the windmarks is gone fishing. Yeah,
I see the virtue in all of these very well
curated Albert thank you could be a brit have to
have their tea. Gotta have that Corchella Valley tea. You
must have it. And look, you know, why not just

(01:47:50):
take it with you? Well, you didn't bring enough for
the whole Oh I did? I brought enough for the
entire cell. You can mind it right up my rear.
Oh no, Shriff Judd brought the thermis out for an
exhibit in his public press meeting. Yeah did he? That's
a what he's got going. Here is a situation that's

(01:48:11):
Friday fabulous Florida.

Speaker 8 (01:48:14):
This has been Friday fabulous Florida. There is a gigantic calligator.

Speaker 5 (01:48:21):
In my kitchen.

Speaker 8 (01:48:24):
Y'all come back now here, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
I'm Shadow Steers.

Speaker 9 (01:48:30):
This is the Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
Want it to yourself? Right on? Thermos Man has a
new idea of a spacious prison wallet says Wes, thank
you for that. Indeed, indeed, indeed time for a Red Jack,
Mark Tini and Kim acausey, says Harry Magnan. The Red
Jack Saloon in San Francisco. Those who aren't familiar with

(01:48:55):
San Francisco, definitely stop there. It is true, San Francis
go and the owners of the Red Jack are there,
living right above the saloon. Don't you think that there's
a there's a movie or a this has come for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Gosh, it just bums me out that I haven't been
able to develop. And it's called Happy's Place and it's
already on TV. I know, I don't know. That's the
Reba McIntyre.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Show, all right, man, who knew they're already on it?

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
No I did, No, I haven't watched them a second
of it, but you see enough promos, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Yeah. Yeah, love from O'Kelly, please read to it. Thank
you from for all the evenings of humor, learning an
intellectual expansion at your previous gig hashtag Darky Gable huge
always Yeah, I know that Moe responded to you, Louise,
so so glad you could recognize that. And uh, Milo,
I think we thanks for hearing me out of course, Mila.

(01:49:50):
Thank you for Mila with the one who believed that
it's a it's an oil play as opposed to a. Uh,
I'm just looking at West says I feel a little
personally targeted every time they do this bit. I guess, well,
we need nothing, we mean nothing personal with the Friday
Fabulous Florida. All right, without any further delay, although we

(01:50:11):
have delayed. Is there anything I need to do before
I get to the Culture Baster Michael Snyder, Kim, I
ask you. I like to ask him things occasionally keeps
her kind of in the game so she doesn't sort
of drift off.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
To yeah, yeah, I don't sleep through the show exactly, Kim.
How are you straight ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
Two?

Speaker 6 (01:50:30):
Movies and entertainment?

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
All right? This guy knows all things entertainment, streaming, Universe,
the Theater, Experience, Universe clubs, music subtitles, Marvel Universe, DC
Universe Movies, limited run series, you name it, he writes

(01:50:51):
about it. He knows it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
He does.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Come and go Yes on a rainbow, Michael Snyder, The
Culture Blaster, Everyone high, Michael Snyder.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
Hi, Mark, Hi, Kim, Hi, Albert, and hello remarkables love
you all, it's Halloween. I just love the beginning of
the holiday season. It's a time of spooks and spirits
and scary, nightmarish things that can haunt your very thoughts.
And speaking of ghoules, is it just me or does
Caroline Levitt look like a woman who would angrily boil
a pet bunny that or ex lover's daughter. You know,

(01:51:25):
we got Steven those Faratu, Miller, crazy Eyes, Cash Pttel,
Christy the Evil Dog, slang Nome, Pete, the Human Hangover, Hegseth,
and their supreme ruler, Jabba the Trump. I am not
saying that DC is a NonStop creature feature. Actually, now
that I think about it, that is exactly what I'm saying.
The big picture of this Halloween, America is now an autocracy,

(01:51:47):
cosplaying is a democracy. I can't believe we're in this
same situation. Speaking of which, you might notice we're not
on camera. There's only one camera because you know, Mark
doesn't want anybody else staging him. But I'm I'm wearing
my Exorcist T shirt in honor of Halloween, and I
are I received We've got a picture of it. Later,

(01:52:08):
I received an unconfirmed report that Pazuzu, the demon from
the Exorcist, showed up in DC in search of a
fresh body to possess, looked around and said, Nope, nope,
heading back to Hell. Wow, I've had my film anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
Well, I'm excited that you've brought your haunted house to
our our haunted house. What do you have for us, O,
great culture blaster.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
Well, I have a number of movies and maybe a
couple of TV shows.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Shall we get you each Well? Absolutely? Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
So Nouvelle Vague, which is French for new Wave, is
the second movie from Austin, Texas director and screenwriter Richard
link Later. He just did Blue Moon, but this is
the second film of his to be released in the
past few weeks, and it is a perfect example of
why I love his stuff. Indeed, smart, adventurous and eclectic
filmmakers like link Later are the way I, you know,

(01:52:58):
approach film myself. I want to see something different, exciting, provocative,
and it's why I love movies in general and a
clectic I mean, this is the guy who broke through
with the Stoner teen comedy Dazed and Confused and went
on to do the Romantic Before trilogy. The Oscar winning
cinema verite style family drama Boyhood, the rollicking comedy with

(01:53:19):
music School of Rock, and the recent crime comedy hit Man,
which was inspired by the life of a real undercover
police operative. Like Blue Moon and hit Man, by the way,
Blue Moon was about the struggles and personal demons of
the great Broadway songwriter Lorenz Heart, and Neuville vag is
based on real people and real events, and for a

(01:53:40):
film fanatic like me, it is a joyous look at
movie history in the making, depicting the birth of the
French new Wave movement in the late nineteen fifties and
early sixties through the conception, the casting, and the filming
of director Jean Luc Godars rough and ready low budget
wedding of crime, doomed romance and beatnik chic Breathless and

(01:54:03):
Breathless in nineteen sixty when it came out, team the
rising tough guy actor Jean Paul Belmondo with the fresh
faced American screen Angeenu Gene Sieberg, and in addition to
being a link Later's cinematic love letter to Goadard and Breathless,
Neuville Vague introduces many of Gadar's peers from the influential

(01:54:24):
Kaye the Cinema Film Studies Group. They were all students
of the medium who would go on to revolutionize the
creation and nature of movies. And these people include Get This,
Francois Truffau, Claude Chabral, Jean Pierre Melville, and also present
at that time were those that influenced them, such as
the theater and film maestro Jean Cocteau, and the casting

(01:54:48):
in this film Nouvelle vague is it's uncanny. I don't
know how else to put it. Gillo Marback as Goadar
and Aubrey Dulan as Belmondo are just right, as is
the sole familiar American actor in the cast, Zoey Deutsch
as Seaberg, who met a tragic early demise in nineteen
seventy nine at around the age of forty. She was

(01:55:10):
a probable suicide and for those who don't know about
her or her career, Seeberg appeared in memorable roles in
movies including Bonjeur, Tristess, Saint Joan in a Fine Madness,
and she was a bit of a radical. She was
targeted by the FBI for her support of the Black
Panther party, which had to have stressed her out. But
I digress. None of that is, you know, part of

(01:55:32):
this movie. And many of the significant figures in the
film look so much like the real deal. It's like
they were plucked out of the time stream or something.
I mean, the actor portraying Cocteau truly seems to be
this long dead legend of theater and film come back
to life. And you know, I have to say, link
Later and his crew do such a phenomenal job of
reproducing the settings, clothing, black and white, film grain and

(01:55:54):
the aspect ratio of the era and of scenes from
Breathless that nouvel vag appears to actually have been shot
in nineteen sixty. It really it's like film magic, you know,
And it's thrilling to get an up close and personal
approximation of Gadar's unconventional approach to shooting a feature film. Clearly,
I lovenu bel vague.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
I don't know if Well, it's kind of your thing,
and it's movies. It's French, it's all that sophisticated crap
that you love, and.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
It's directed by an American and there is some English
language in there. But when it's not like an English
French you can read the subtitles. No, I'm not saying
just because I have.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
It's somewhat of the Michael Schnyder this movie, Oh my god,
But a lot of people in the chat are excited
about seeing it, So you think you're you're onto something.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
He consider what link Letter has done and such populist
sort of films in the past, to do something like
this again, which is kind of a love letter to
gorilla filmmaking in some ways, because that's probably how the
guy started. Sure you know anyway, high marks to Neu
Belvage and to Richard Ling later in general love it?

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
What else do you have? A great culture blessing?

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
So I gotta say mark Anniversary. I think is a
must for you, Kim and the audience to see. Is
it timely? It is painfully so. Anniversary is a portrait
of a family ripped asunder by a growing exclusionary and
frighteningly familiar political movement that is cloaked in blind patriotism.

(01:57:24):
Sound familiar, I know, it sounds about wow. So this
movie takes that circumstance, which finds its figurehead in an
aggrieved young woman whose wholesome appearance hides her sinister agenda
and who seeks revenge upon those who she feels wronged
or belittled her, and it shows that circumstance and its
inevitable endgame. So the young woman named Liz is played

(01:57:46):
in really canny fashioned by British actor Phoebe Dinavar with
an American accent, a believable one stealing jobs from hard
working American actress Thank you UK. Anyway, so Liz shows
up at the home of her ex college professor Ellen
for party celebrating the wedding anniversary of Ellen Taylor, the woman,
the ex professor, and Ellen's husband Paul. So, despite Liz

(01:58:08):
having felt humiliated by Ellen back at school, she arrives
as the girlfriend of Ellen and Paul's son. And this
is to the shock of all the Taylor family, including
the Taylor's three daughters, one a lesbian singer, songwriter and star.
One the wife and kind of committed to various personal

(01:58:32):
and political beliefs. She's a lawyer with a lawyer husband,
and the third a young student a biology student. And
the girls are played by very very talented actresses, including
Zoey Deutsch. It says Zoey deutsch Festival Today. She plays
the lawyer, and McKenna grace plays Bertie, the youngest of
the three daughters, and Madeline Brewer plays Anna, who is

(01:58:55):
the rock star. And none of them are buying into Liz,
and they know about the unsavory past. And meanwhile, Liz
has written this treatise that gets published and it turns
into a massive political movement called the Change. So Anniversary
shows what happens over the next few years as the Change,

(01:59:16):
backed by big corporate financing, becomes the most powerful political
movement in America, and what's on the surface a cautionary
tale of corporate enabled authoritarianism, begins to seem more and
more like something ripped from tomorrow's headlines.

Speaker 2 (01:59:33):
Yikes.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
Anyway, Anniversary was directed and co written by Jan Komasa,
and kudos to him for the bull or her.

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
I don't know. It's Jan, you know, so, you don't
know much. You don't know much. You like the movie though,
it's what I'm getting.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
You really liked old provocative and tragic, old provocative.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Oh tragic, Oh it's tragic. Come on, you mean authoritarianism
in the rise of It doesn't have a happy ending
associated a big Hollywood ending.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
Of course, you can watch the film and find out,
but in any event, like Neuvelle Vagge, it is in
select theaters. By the way, Nouvelle Vague, I do want
to point out, is going to be I think on
about the fourteenth of November on Netflix. It's a Netflix
Finance film, but I really think you should try to
seek out Anniversary, whether it's home viewing or not. It's

(02:00:21):
definitely worthwhile. And young Swain actor Dylan O'Brien shows up
here as the Sun of the tailors, and he gives
as good as he loves Anniversary. Let's move on, sir, okay.
Hallow Road is a tidy little thriller with elements of
a road picture, only the journey undertaking is one into

(02:00:41):
the heart of darkness or a dark knight of the soul,
if you will. It's primarily two people, a husband and
wife in a car curtling down a lonely English road
on a late night mission to save their daughter from
a life ruining fate. I don't think this cost a
lot to make, but despite the compact, constricted nature or
the story, it grabs you and rattles you, in part

(02:01:03):
due to having Matthew Reese and Rosamond Pike as of
distressed Dad and Mom. Matthew Reese from The Americans, Rosamund
Pike from numerous movies. They are terrific. Uh, this is
kind of a bit of a mystery. There's a lot
of family drama involved, but it's also got elements of
folk horror that creep into this thing as they drive

(02:01:26):
down the highway on their way to Hallow Road, which
is apparently in some very remote area.

Speaker 2 (02:01:32):
Is what is folk horror.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
Folk horror is when you have some kind of scary,
kind of mythological circus lives kind of. Yeah, there's maybe
some kind of spirits from old.

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
Religions like Druidism and whatever you like. What would be
another movie it employs folk horrors?

Speaker 1 (02:01:51):
Well, I would have to say The wicker Man is
totally like a folk horror vibe thing. Do I have
to write it out for you?

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
Yeah? Apparently you have to.

Speaker 1 (02:01:59):
Okay, Anyway, that for the follow up, That movie, such
as it is, is in limited release. I for some reason,
Halloween Weekend doesn't have any big old blockbusters to speak of.
But that's that's fine because these are interesting, smaller films
that act.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
You're saying, the attention of the audience. What else do
you have? A great culture.

Speaker 1 (02:02:19):
Let's wrap up the movie segment of Today's Little Endeavor
with Ballad of a Small Player, which opened in theaters
a week or two ago and it has now been
dropped on Netflix. Netflix is the gift that keeps on
giving lately. I don't know, I've been watching The Diplomat
season three. I mean, it's just been fantastic, and Ballad
of a Small Player it's one of those movies where
you know, I have to say it's not bad. It's

(02:02:41):
not to me up to the level of the previous
three films. It's all about a gambler who is in Macau,
adjacent to Hong Kong. And his name, such as he
says to everyone around him, is Lord Doyle. So it's
implied that he's, you know, British aristocrat, and he's played

(02:03:01):
by the great Colin Farrell. But in fact, this guy
is deep in debt. He's trying to avoid creditors. He's
ongoing losses in the casino are getting more and more ruinous,
and he has to figure a way out, and he
thinks that his salvation might be this woman who has
been loaning people money, a beautiful local woman who's loaning

(02:03:25):
folks cash to keep them afloat, and yet his luck
is clearly of the bad variety. And while this is
going on, he is approached by another woman, and this
woman apparently knows all about his past, and that's going
to bite him in the ass. So I would have
to say, it's on Netflix, so it's not going to

(02:03:47):
be a big expenditure on your part to watch it
if you have an account. There's a bit of magical
surrealism crossed with Eastern mysticism to ballot of a small
player and again it stars Colin Farrell un Till the
Swinton plays the woman who's seems to have sussed him
out and has an agenda of her own. Follow Chen
from Marble's Shang Chi plays the Asian woman who may

(02:04:08):
or may not loan him the money he needs. And
this is directed by Edward Berger, who did Conclave and
All's Quiet on the Western Front. This guy is a wow,
excellent director.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
The screenplay is by Roman Joffey, who did twenty eight
Weeks Later, The American and The Informant, and he adapted
a novel by Lawrence Osborne to make his script here,
but it doesn't quite live up to its pedigree. That said,
my god, Farrell is so good in this thing.

Speaker 2 (02:04:37):
Where can I see this Ballad of a Small Player?

Speaker 1 (02:04:39):
I have said Netflix three times?

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
Are you alert to awaken anyway?

Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
Kim?

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
Do you know where you can see Ballad of a
Small Player?

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
Are you familiar with that? Where you can see?

Speaker 8 (02:04:50):
It?

Speaker 3 (02:04:50):
Was that in limited release?

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
And I knew she wasn't paying attention. I don't blame her,
She's working on that. It was in part in limited release.

Speaker 3 (02:04:58):
Was giving out.

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
He give me. He was giving me a hard time
because he was giving me a hard time because he
had said it was available on Netflix three times. And
then I said, I said where can you see it?
And then he said, I've said three times, and so
I was bringing you in to give me cover. He says,
I knew you also probably missed it. Wh I see this?

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
Why I see this? The literate script, the exotic location,
and the great performances by Farrell, Swinton, and Chen and
Farrell in particular, gives yet another complex, fully realized performance
to go along with other recent triumphs like his work
in the Penguin sugar, and of course you must know
about his wonderful performance in The Banshees of an Ashuran
as Kim and Mark and I have said it is

(02:05:40):
in select theaters, but it's streaming on Netflix as of today.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
Yeah, don't try to back her up by saying it's
streaming in theaters. You gave me a hard time because
you said I've said it's on Netflix. I've said it
normal a number of times. Foula Chen is her name.

Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
Yeah, she's She's lovely. And again there's a certain quality
of mysticism that's going down here.

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
And you know, I'm excited about a movie about gaming
and it takes place in Macaal. It could be very brand.

Speaker 1 (02:06:08):
Interestingly enough, at one point, Colin Farrell goes to Vegas,
gets involved in a card game and loses it all,
including his house and car. No that, yeah, please, I'm
not trying to warn you about your upcoming.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
Yes, I don't put that kind of money and play, thankfully.
So tell me what else? Do you have? A great
culture blaster? Okay, because we are down to the last
couple of moments.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
Okay, So I am thoroughly engrossed in the low down
on FX and also available on Hulu. It's on FX
on Tuesdays and then Wednesdays it drops on Hulu for
those who have a subscription to that streaming service, which
is being, by the way, folded into Disney in the

(02:06:47):
near future. In this movie TV show Ethan Hawke, who
was just the Grabber in Black Phone two and played
Lorenz Heart in Blue Moon All these callbox Man colbac City.
Here he plays a rough, self destructive, but crusading Tulsa,
Oklahoma investigative reporter and bookstore owner with an estranged wife
and a precocious daughter, and he takes on a wealthy,

(02:07:11):
corrupt and racist local family and their hired thugs, and
also the white supremacist types that are hanging out and
gathering together as sort of a cabal, and the local
Native American community is targeted in this situation and the
show is absolutely sprawling and wonderful, has amazing performers involved,

(02:07:34):
and of course, due to our heroes, heless pursuit of
the truth and to doing the right thing. He's frequently
used as a punching bag by the bad guys, and
his scruffiness reminds me of the character of Jackson Lamb
in slow horses who is a mess but somehow always
figures out a way to solve the situation. Hawk is
wonderful in this. Keith David as a fixer is wonderful

(02:07:58):
in this. I love him, He's so good. And you
get Kyle McLaughlin as as the he's the local politico
who wants to run for governor. Jean triple Horn plays
his sister in law. I don't want to get into
further detail other than to say that it's really wonderful
and you know, frankly.

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
You like it. I low down one more episode to go,
and how many episodes are there?

Speaker 1 (02:08:26):
Eight? All right, so you'll be able to catch up
to it. Also quickly, very very quickly, Culture Blaster Cask
came out on HBO and HBO Max. That's supposed to
be great. It is wonderful. It's set in my old
stomping grounds of the Delaware Valley, the Philadelphia area, and
you know it because a lot of people have the
accent in the in the show and they talk about

(02:08:46):
scrapple and water ice and stuff like you. But actually
it's pretty great stuff. It's about an FBI agent who's
kind of been put out the pastor in a way
played by Mark Ruffalo, and he's pulled into a very
very complex tapestry of crime and death and drug running
and money, local motorcycle gangs, and he's got family issues.

(02:09:12):
Task is brilliant, as cousin, It is absolutely brilliant. I
don't want to reveal much about it other than to
say that it really really works and it looks into
againa melial relationships crime. You know, there are shades of
gray on display here, and Ruffalo is absolutely wonderful.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
Wow. Adam David says he does want a ding on Asunder.
When you were talking about the family that was torn asunder,
I will award a ding.

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
By the way, the mom and dad in Anniversary, I
really have to point to them. They were great. Kyle
Chandler and Diane Lane do incredibly good work in Anniversary.
And again, maybe I'm gushing about it because it's just
so topical, crazy topical. All right, Before we roll out March,

(02:10:04):
I want to say that past halloweens, I have attended
the wondrous West Hollywood Street Carnival on Santa Monica, but
I think tonight I'm going ahead to the Barkley Bar
and restaurant in South Pasadena for a Halloween party headline
by the High Desert Blues Review with the DJ's El
Guapo and David Augustine. It's a free party, and tomorrow

(02:10:25):
night in San Francisco there will be a post Halloween
booty mashup party at the cat Club Always Fun with
DJ's Adriana Jupiter and Time, plus a costume contest with
best and worst prizes, a drag show and more. I'd
be there.

Speaker 2 (02:10:38):
I was by the Bay, a crazy degenerate liberal and
I love it all right now, Snyder mention, oh, and
remind people of special Halloween south Park tonight. So is
Phineas Jaywall.

Speaker 1 (02:10:51):
Absolutely I'm excited about that. And also I do want
to point out that if you are interested in the
lowdown and want to read more about it, my current
column in the Voice of San Francisco is giving you
the lowdown on the Lowdown, and you can check it
out at the voicesf dot org. Happy Halloween to all.
Let's keep it hallow weird. But if you're driving, just

(02:11:12):
don't do too much of the hallowed.

Speaker 2 (02:11:15):
Oh, I get what you did. I want to quickly
you run down that which Michael shared he is the
culture Blaster blasted out task which he really likes. In
the Delaware Valley, the Philly area FBI agent put out
to pasture. Mark Ruffalo springs into action and Michael really
likes it. Seems to be backed up by people in
the chat as well. The Lowdown on FX and Hulu.

(02:11:38):
Ethan A Hawk, the self destructive investigative reporter and bookstore owner.
Keith David's in it, Kyle Mclachlin's in it, Jeane tripplehorns
in it, and Michael Snyder, the culture Blaster, is way
in it. He is way into it and recommends it highly.

Speaker 1 (02:11:52):
Last appearance, by the way, by the great Native American
actor Graham Green. Oh, and this is done by the
guy behind Reservation Dogs.

Speaker 2 (02:12:00):
So yes, so a lot of good pedigree in the
Lowdown that's on FX and Hulu. Ballad of a small
Player not up to the previous three films from this guy,
but it's pretty good, Michael says, it's worth checking out.
It's about a gambler in Macau. Lord Doyle is his name.
He's played by Colin Ferrell. Till the Swinton's in it,
and it's a is it foll of Chenzo and the

(02:12:23):
director of All Quiet on the Western Front. I mean
that was a tour de force of a film, and
man impressive. Ballad of a Small Player is.

Speaker 1 (02:12:33):
Viewable on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
H Hollow Road is the h Matthew Reese and Rosamund
Pung Rosamund Pike, offering a bit of mystery and folk horror.
It grabs you, it rattles you. The culture Blaster liked it.
My sense where you didn't love it, but you liked it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
You are correct.

Speaker 2 (02:13:00):
Anniversary the timely portrait of family ripped apart by blind patriotism,
Zoey Deutsch, the rise of corporate authoritarianism. It's bold and
I don't want to give away any endings, but it's
tragic and it's so timely and relevant.

Speaker 1 (02:13:19):
Boy yeah yeah. By the way, Diane Lane, man, she
can still deliver the game.

Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
I love Diane Lane, And when I say I love her,
I mean I've had a mad ass crush on her
for about as long as I can remember. Anniversary is
available in select theaters and it will be soon. Michael
thinks streamable, but it's not streamable yet. No Anniversary. Nouvelle
Vague is the Richard Linklater movie that Michael loved from

(02:13:48):
the guy who brought you Dazed and Confused, Little Blue
Men and Little Blue Moon, I should say in a
hit man. This is based on real events. It depicts
the birth of the French new wave movement. The cat
is perfect, the mood is perfect, It is all wonderful.
The Culture Blaster loves it. And you can find it

(02:14:08):
in Select Theater.

Speaker 1 (02:14:10):
And on the fourteenth on Netflix. And yeah it's a
little inside baseball. But if you're a cinephile, and I am,
yes you are, Oh cinophile is a ding worry Michael,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:14:20):
You can find Michael his musings, his writings. He writes
about more than just movies and music. He writes on
all kinds of things. The Voice sf dot org.

Speaker 1 (02:14:29):
He does, come and go on a rainbow. Bye, my
culture Blaster, mate, hal llween and go Niners.

Speaker 2 (02:14:37):
Of course, Yeah, Niners have run up against some pretty
strong headwinds, haven't they. Mark thumpson Commissioner, It's sort of
been a rough ride for the Niners. But Chaplin Fred
offers this, By the way, Mark, now you know what
I look like, And yes I am a chaplain. Not
what you thought I bet Lol. Actually I don't know.

(02:15:00):
I didn't have any kind of preconceived notion, but I
did love seeing chaplain Fred with the police chief of
Los Angeles. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Kim glad I
could wake you long enough to participate here. At the
end of the show, tell me what you have for
next week for us.

Speaker 6 (02:15:17):
Oh, next week is going to be really exciting. Moe
Kelly will be hosting the show I think Convidian Monday
and Tuesday, and then Mo takes over on Wednesdays.

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
You're going to miss me giving you a hard time?

Speaker 1 (02:15:29):
I yes, it's going to be horrible.

Speaker 6 (02:15:32):
Monday, though, you will be back, and you will be
back to talk to Gary Dietrich and Michael Hiltzik will
be on the show, and Karen down will talk animals.

Speaker 2 (02:15:44):
As a Pulitzer Prize winner that Michael Hiltzick and Gary
Dietrich will try to make sense of this some madness
that seems to be overtaking this country.

Speaker 6 (02:15:54):
I have a last minute video to show you all right.
During the discussion this morning with Mike Johnson, they talked
about snap benefits and the Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rolin stepped
to the mic and she said some things that had
Mike Johnson trying to come and dear.

Speaker 2 (02:16:13):
That I saw it right, yeah, said yeah, go ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:16:18):
My message to America is first the fact that your
government is failing you right now. That poverty is not
red or blue. It is not a Republican or Democrat issue.
Doesn't matter who you voted for, or even if you
voted that. If you are in a position where you

(02:16:41):
can't feed your family and you're relying on that one
hundred and eighty seven dollars a month for an average
family in the SNAP program, that we have failed you.

Speaker 2 (02:16:53):
I think the way I interpreted that, I was trying
to figure out what she was really saying, because I
don't see her going off script like that. Do you
did you you interpreted it as sort of taking at
face value she's saying what she means.

Speaker 6 (02:17:11):
No, I don't think so. But I think that when
you say your government has failed you, I think immediately
Mike Johnson's thinking, oh, you shouldn't be saying that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:21):
Oh, I agree. I think she didn't express it the
way that CC riders. She's free two on fire right exactly,
But I think she was trying to say they were
trying to blame the Democrats, you know, And I feel
like on some level maybe she was going for that,
but it definitely did not come out that way.

Speaker 6 (02:17:42):
No, it didn't come out that way. And I think
they don't want people to think that Republicans are on
food stamps or snap or whatever. That they want people
to think. No, it's the Democrats draining the system. It's
the people of color. It's not us, it's them.

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
Right.

Speaker 6 (02:17:57):
So when she comes out and says, you know that
it doesn't matter your party, it doesn't matter who you
voted for. If you can't feed your family, government has
failed you, that's not the MAGA message.

Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
Uh fair, Fair, She was trying to say, good. Dacer
was a shoemaker. Yeah, it did feel very good, Dacer. I
will grant you that. I mean, there's definitely, uh there,
maybe there's a context where that makes sense, but it didn't.
I mean, it makes sense for those guys. But Mark,

(02:18:29):
don't play drops while Kim is talking. It's not a
videot no, we always, yeah, we play it no matter
who's talking. We don't. We don't distinguish who's talking. We
played drops right over them there, they play him right
over there. I don't. Yeah, anyway, comish, welcome back. Any

(02:18:53):
thoughts on the Niners.

Speaker 4 (02:18:56):
Rough week, The injuries caught up to us. But it
should be better, a lot better than we could be.
Like it's ridiculous through by week. It's week fourteen.

Speaker 2 (02:19:04):
Yeah, and that's like.

Speaker 4 (02:19:06):
Right with the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:19:07):
Are gonna say that's a little unfair. Yeah, we're already.

Speaker 4 (02:19:10):
The most historically entered team in the league.

Speaker 3 (02:19:12):
We need it was a week four bye together.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
Feet up there, can't get a break, cannot get a break?
All right, Well, drop the conversation with Anthony Davis later today,
Albert will take care of that. Podcast will go up
right after the show. Thank you for being here everyone.
Hey Halloween, we'll Halloween have a safe one and we

(02:19:35):
will see you back here on Monday with a big
show on Monday. And now and it's his birthday Monday.
Maybe I'll get him to stop through the Great Shadows Stevens.

Speaker 9 (02:19:44):
I'm the Shadow of Stevens for the Mark Johnson Show.

Speaker 2 (02:19:48):
Bye Bye, always a great way to finish the week.
Out of time, Bye bye, out of time, saying goodbye
bye bye Thetts

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