Trump’s White House Falls Deeper into Crisis & Denial to Cap a Brutal Week 11/14/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It is fabulous Friday on the Mark Thompson Show. Moch
Kelly fell again one more day for Mark Thompson. I
got to say before we get going, it has been
a wonderful experience. I am humbled and appreciative. I want
to thank Albert and Tony and Kim and Mark for
offering this space for me to stretch my legs and
be able to talk to you and listen to you

(00:24):
and learn from you. I believe it is a dialogue,
not a monologue, even though my voice is the one
that's prominently featured. I appreciate listening and learning from you
each step of the way. And we got one more day.
We're gonna have some fun. We're going to laugh about
them things. Of course, we're going to talk about the
Trump administration and its latest acts of deflection to get

(00:47):
you to not talk about those Jeffrey Epstein emails and
all these other investigations that the White House has called for.
We're definitely going to talk about that. And let me
just say first, good morning to Richard Delematter. He says,
thanks MO, you are remarkable this week hashtag MO in
the Know, Well, thank you for that. I don't know

(01:08):
if I was remarkable nice play on words, but I
do enjoy the opportunity to opine long form about these
issues which affect you and me and everyone in our families.
And it's not often, it's not often you get a
space like this to be able to do it. I

(01:29):
mean it. Working in conventional radio, you get seven minutes
and then you go to commercial and then you got
to start all over again. But to do this for
a good two hours or so, it is It is
a wonderful, wonderful platform and format. Again, hats off to
Mark and also Kim and Albert and Tony who's with
us at the beginning of the week. They make this

(01:49):
magic every single day. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
SJ.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Lolis says, you've done a capital job. MO, thank you
very much. I appreciate that. And I got to be
very honest. I was kind of nervous the first couple
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(02:13):
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Speaker 1 (02:20):
I know, but what a pleasure it's been having you
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Well, I thank you for that. And Kim, you know
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with each other as far as how we process information
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this so very very simple. When I say simple, in
other words, it was an easy transition. And I can't
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Speaker 1 (02:43):
Excellent. At least I did one thing right this week.
We like it. And he says Amon needs to be
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Speaker 2 (03:03):
Speaking of Michael Shore, he will be joining us as
always on this Friday. We're going to come up with
him in the top of the second hour, Michael Snyder.
He's going to come in and leave on a rainbow
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on a Friday, we have for you on this particular Friday.
So let's get into some of this. And I've been
thinking about this for the past couple of days. Everyone
has been talking about the Jeffrey Epstein emails, dissecting what
each one may mean, what each email may implicate, or
who it may implicate, the type of response, and the

(03:47):
over analysis to the point of exhaustion about what does
Trump know, what does did Trump do? Is there any
type of incriminating information? What is he willing to do
to stop the flow of Thejeffrey Epstein emails? And I
think we should just draw back for a second, and
as the cliche goes, let's look at this from thirty
thousand feet. Donald Trump is a relatively simple individual. When

(04:12):
you talk about his psychology. It's not that he's afraid
of going to prison. It's not that because he knows
he has presidential immunity, he knows that he has a
Republican Congress which will do anything for him. He has
a Scotis which is going to protect him. So it's
not a fear. Even going back to prior to the

(04:33):
Scotus's ruling, as far as presidential immunity, his motivation has
never really been connected to the fear of going to prison.
That's not it. The fear is in the likelihood, or
the possibility at least that we may see him for
who he is. What I mean by that is starting

(04:56):
each day with the makeup that he himself puts on
his face to present this facade of someone who's healthy,
who's viril, whose skin is just vibrant, when none of
that is true. The way he combs his hair into
this quoff of a rat nest, a bird nest, or

(05:17):
something to have you believe even though we all know
better that he has almost no hair on top of
his head. It's about protecting this persona, this image of
someone who's healthy and viril, the lies about being six
foot three and two hundred and twenty pounds. And to
be fair, we all get shorter as we get older

(05:40):
because of impacted spines compacted vertebra. You ever look at
at your grandparents as that get older, they get shorter.
My father before we pass he was five six. He
was five eleven most of his life, but that happens
to all of us, So I don't begrudge him as
in Donald Trump from holding on to the idea that
he's still six foot three. I more begrudge him because

(06:04):
he actually believes all that he puts out there as
far as his physical presentation. He will continue to lie
about his weight, He will continue to lie about his health.
He will continue to lie about all the smallest things.
He will continue to move with this fabrication of his
hair because he doesn't want us to see him for

(06:26):
who he truly is. And I believe that his legacy,
his greatest fear, is his legacy will be the Jeffrey
Epstein controversy, that he will forever linked to Jeffrey Epstein,
regardless of him being a two term president, non consecutive terms,
but still a two term president, regardless of being a

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billionaire or maybe even a billionaire ten times over or
whatever his actual worth is, something else he's lied about
in previous years.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
He does not.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Want to be seen in a way which connotes weakness,
and we all know the bravado, the bluster is absolutely
an overcompensation for his ultimate weakness. But Maga by and
large bides into to the persona the belief that he

(07:20):
is a strong man, that he is a healthy and
virile man with hair and he has locks flowing, and
you see the outrageous AI depicting him as some sort
of superhero. Trump wants that persona. Trump desperately needs that
and he will protect it at all costs. And when

(07:42):
I saw this story about Illinois Governor JB. Pritsker, and
he was talking something very similar to this, this fear
that Pritsker has about Trump's fear of being exposed in
any number of ways, and how desperate Trump is at
this moment and what that may mean. And we've seen

(08:03):
him desperate, but never this desperate. He is calling out
Republican congresspeople. A saw story in TMZ today where a
truth social post where Trump was saying, paraphrasing that if
you are asking for the Epstein.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Files, you're foolish, you're weak.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
And we know that's projection, because we know this president
is both foolish and weak, and he is scared.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
He is scared.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So what does a bully do. He threatens people, he
wants to call for investigations of other people. He wants
to distract, he wants to deflect. Did you see that
President Trump is calling for an investigation into the Epstein
files and Bill Clinton? How to see what a straight

(08:52):
face do that? How does he say on one hand
and kim correct me if I'm wrong, if I've forgotten something,
please add it in. He said, on one hand, it
was a Democrat hoax. Well, if a hoax, what.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Is there to investigate?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
And you do know that if you call for an
investigation of Bill Clinton, what happens if you were to
actually testify? Not that he would, but what would happen
if you were to actually testify? And if you say
that Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein were friends for years?
We all remember that you were friends with Jeffrey Epstein
and Bill Clinton for many years. So what stories could

(09:29):
Bill Clinton tell about Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump? Wouldn't
it be? I would say ironic if Bill Clinton were
to come forward and in his testimony implicate, implicate Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
You know, yeah I saw him on the plane. Sure, yeah,
I was on the plane.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Trump was on the plane, everybody was on the plane.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's this kind of response that a mom knows about
where you know, you, you know, the kid that broke
the vase, but the other kids there pointing the finger. Now,
not Joey did it wasn't me right? Look at Joey.
Joey's the one. I mean, you can't call for an
investigation of President Clinton because his name was you know, somewhere,

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or or Larry Summers as his name was in the emails,
or all these other political figures that were mentioned in
the dump of Epstein emails this week, and not not
and leave yourself out of the mix. It's just so silly.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
A reasonable person, and we're not talking about reasonable people,
but a reasonable person knows that you cannot implicate someone
else in something that you've already been implicated in. You
are not an impartial outsider and observer. Anything that's in
the Epstein files is at least connected to on some level,

(10:53):
to Donald Trump. They had interaction. He is mentioned by name,
He is discussed by in the emails. He is part
of any investigation. If he were a lawyer, he would
have to recuse himself. If he were a judge presiding,
he would have to recuse himself. If this were a
criminal case, he would likely be called up to testify.

(11:14):
If this were in a court of law, we all
know that it's not going to get there. But he's
very much part of it, and to that. In going
back to JB. Pritzker, one of the fears of someone
being exposed in a way that Donald Trump is afraid
of being exposed is possibly going the route, the cinematic
route of wag the dog and starting a war to

(11:35):
get people to not talk about this in the media
or amongst ourselves. Where could we end up in a war? Well,
Venezuela is definitely a good candidate. Oh and by the way,
can that you see we blew up another boat with
another four people in it. So the timing cannot be ignored.
The timing is specific and intentional. The timing of this

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newly announced in investigation into Congressman Eric Swalwell and mortgages
cannot be ignored. All of these things are happening simultaneously
and not in a vacuum, but to give media outlets
something else to discuss or to cloud what is what
we call the talker. The talker is the main story

(12:20):
that everyone is talking about. And if you can cloud
media with these other stories, which on the surface suggest
that they are newsworthy and notable, then you somehow blunt
the impact of the Jeffrey Epstein discussion and somehow distract
news media from focusing on the Jeffrey Epstein discussion and

(12:44):
maybe you get Congress or especially the Republican Conference back
in line and not vote for that discharge petition next week.
It's not going to work, but you understand the motivation
and the motivation is this president. Although material immune to
what may come out of the Epstein investigation, he is

(13:04):
most definitely I've never seen him this what I would
call afraid of what could come out. And to me,
the fear is based on the fact that he knows
better than anybody what might be in there, from pictures
to video to emails. And here's something else I wish
people would better understand and better argue on social media

(13:28):
as far as destroying the negative of the narrative against
the Epstein files. What is coming but you're seeing all
the box and also the Republican right wing talking heads
echoing the same thing. Well, the Democrats had access to
this information for four years. Why didn't they do anything
about it? Number one? You know they didn't. Most of

(13:49):
it was under sealed because of the ongoing Gilaane Maxwell investigation.
That's number one. Number two, what is coming out right
now is not from the Jeffrey Epstein investigation being in
New York or Florida. This is coming from subpoena information
from the Epstein estate, meaning everyone had access to that.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Todd Glance to Deputy do Deputy.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Attorney General, had access to the information if he were
to subpoena it. The Democrats decided, well, let's issue a subpoena.
They got it, now they're releasing it. So don't think
that because these emails from the estate are coming out
that we're actually getting the Jeffrey Epstein files. No, it's

(14:39):
two different things. Some of these emails may be in
the official Jeffrey Epstein files, but they're not from the
files that the government has. And I think that's part
of the reason why the White House is on its
heels and they're scared isshless, if only because they have

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some knowledge of what is contained in some of the emails,
or they have full knowledge of what the estate has,
and there's nothing they can do to prevent the estate
from giving it over to either the Democrats and or
news sources. In other words, there's going to be so
many holes in this dam there will not be enough

(15:24):
fingers to plug all the holes.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I wonder if there's a list somewhere that Trump has
of when, as you say, the ish hits the fan
and he's flailing about trying to figure out how to deflect.
If there's a list of things, you know, he may
go down and go well, they really didn't like it
when I renamed the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America.
What else can I rename? Or they? Boy, they really
freaked out when I tore down the East Wing. What

(15:48):
else can I do? What else can I dismantle in
the White House? That'll become the top news story. Boy,
they really don't like this Venezuela thing. What else can
I blow up? And that's the scary part is you
know the damage that he could do as he flails about,
pointing the finger everywhere else. It's a little scary.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Did you see the story? To your point, Kim, did
you see the story or I should say the picture
of the video of Secretary of War Pete Hegseeth supposedly
screwing in the sign the Apartment of War on the
Pentagon with a Phillips screwdriver a Albert If you should
have a chance to find that, it's hilarious because no
one hangs an actual sign or mounts a sign with

(16:33):
a Phillips screwdriver. So it was all going back to
what I said yesterday performance politics, but again trying to
distract away from what everyone is talking about, including on
the right side of the album. Now they may be
talking about it differently. They may be trying to excuse it.
Here we go. See, don't tell me that they use

(16:53):
a a screwdriver to out that what I think is
a brass plaque.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I don't know how marble, but I don't know that
that doesn't seem right.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Mo, No, it doesn't, it doesn't. I've hung a few
things in my day on drywall maybe, but not like
marble or a column, and you're definitely not going to
be able to do it with a Phillips head screwdriver.
I mean that goes back to insulting our intel like this.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I'm surprised they didn't give him a big manly drill.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
You would think, you would think, and that would have
been more believable. That would have been more believable, and
it would have been more believable if someone else had
hung the sign. The Secretary of Defense slash War is
not going to be the person hanging the sign. But
you know that goes back to the thirty thirty five
percent of everyone just being idiots, because there are those

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who will believe it, not question it, not find it odd,
not see anything out of place, not question the timing
of it.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Oll A.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Hanson says he's not allowed.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
To use theols and he says it's a perfect use
of his time at least, Well if he's if he's
you know, doing a photo op to screw in the sign,
he can't screw up anything else.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know if it's mutually exclusive.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Just because he's out in front of the building at
nine am doesn't mean that he's not screwing up something
inside the building at the same time. This, though, going
back to the original point, highlights what I believe is
the most fearful time in this presidential term. And when

(18:40):
I say fearful, fearful for the White House and fearful
for us. As far as how the White House may respond,
and you can use all the cliches and and analogies
about when an animal has been backed into a corner
and how desperate they are. This is a desperate White
House in a way that I haven't seen. The fear

(19:02):
is palpable. It doesn't mean that Donald Trump is going
to be removed from office. And I want people to
be clear. And if you're watching our stream right now,
not just listening, you can see the actual video of
Pete Hegzeth supposedly screwing in the Department of War sign,
which doesn't change anything. It's more theatrics, and it's bad

(19:22):
theatrics because he has a sleeve rolled up and he's
putting a to use a Phillips head screwdriver. We all
know better. We all know better. That's not how you
hang a sign. Anyone's who's actually hung a sign. But
going back to this Trump administration, they are desperate and

(19:46):
desperate times, as they say, call for desperate measures. My
concern is what that desperation leads to. Governor J. B.
Pritzker and Illinois said it could lead to a war,
an unnecessary war with Venezuela. Well, I mean, he's not wrong.
The violence has escalated in international waters right off the

(20:07):
coast of Venezuela. If it were reversed and Venezuela was
doing that to the United States and international waters off
the coast, let's say of Los Angeles, we would immediately
respond with military strikes on land. The fact that it
hasn't escalated beyond what it is right now is surprising

(20:29):
to me, But I would not be surprised if this
administration further escalated that conflict to get us even right now,
I'm talking about Venezuela and not talking about the Epstein files.
That is conscious, that is intentional, that is by design.
I don't know if it's going to work, but if anything,

(20:52):
as we look at it at again from thirty thousand feet,
it speaks to the level of desperation. Donald Trump does
not want to go down in history as the president
linked to Jeffrey Epstein. He does not want you to
see him for who he is. He does not want
you to know that, at least until recently, he was

(21:14):
not as wealthy as he purported himself to be. He
does not want you to know how badly his health
cognitively and physically has deteriorated, have deteriorated in recent months.
He does not want you to see him for who
he is right now, from his hair down to his

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feet and his walking from here to there, it is
all a facade, and he knows deep down inside in
his quiet moments, or at least his moments off camera,
that there will be nothing more disastrous. Everything is a
disaster to him. But there's nothing more disastrous than having

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the proverbial curtain moved and you get to see the
Wizard of Maga for who he truly is. And to
that end, he will do anything to protect that facade,
that persona the belief that he is their retribution, that
he is the protector of all things Maga. And if anything,

(22:18):
it should tell you just how damning the Jeffrey Epstein
files are possibly for not only him, but especially him.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Do we have the true social post, Albert, I'll read
it to you. This is him flailing about and this
is what we've got so far with the blame game.
Now he says that the Democrats are using the Epstein hoax,
involving Democrats not Republicans, to try to deflect from their
disaster shutdown and all of their other failures. I will

(22:48):
be asking a. G. Pam Bondi and the Department of Justice,
together with our great patriots at the FBI, to investigate
Jeffrey Epstein's involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton. Larry Summers
read Hoffman, JP, Morgan, Chase, he said, and many other
people and institution to determine what was going on with
them and him. He said, this is another Russia Russia

(23:11):
Russia scam with all arrows pointing to the Democrats. So
this is the blame game that begins.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Kim, I remember, and I think you remember. We're both
old enough to remember when there was this invisible partition
between the White House and the Department of Justice where
the President did not ask for, did not get updates
regarding did not involve himself in any of the investigations.

(23:38):
Why because the DOJ would be the agency to investigate
the White House if need be, thanks to this guy
called Richard Nixon. And to have a president openly called
for not only an investigation, but a pointed investigation of
specific and key individual who could be considered either political

(24:03):
adversaries or members of the opposition party should tell you
how far our country has fallen in just a few years.
This dates back to the first Trump administration, but it
wasn't this bad and this egregious and obvious, where you
have the President just say, hey, DJ, go investigate that

(24:23):
person regarding Jeffrey Epstein, and we all know, given Letitia James,
James Comy, and others, the implication is, find me something
that can be a used for an indictment. You don't
need the evidence, you don't need the grand jury, just
make it happen. And that's why when people say, why
do you use the word fascist? That's why right there,

(24:47):
that's it speaking out it against the administration. Then all
of a sudden, you're under not only political persecution but
also prosecution. That's fascism right there. And they say, we
shouldn't use that word. You shouldn't use that type of
political rhetoricreatictic rhetoric. It leads to violence. We're not advocating violence,

(25:08):
but let's call a thing a thing. If you are
acting like a racist and someone calls you a racist, okay.
If you are acting like a fascist and someone calls
you a fascist or say that you are have fascist tendencies, okay.

(25:28):
People now in America, and before we go to news,
I think this is what I want to end on.
People now are more concerned, obsessed, and angered with the
title than the actual behavior. Republicans will say, don't call
us Nazis, don't call us fascist. But in the analysis

(25:54):
of the behavior in the embrace of neo Nazis in
the administration of this government. It is in alignment. It
is very similar to it is indicative of. So if
you don't.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Want the title, but you're a okay with all of
the behavior, you don't want to be called it, but
you're a okay with being it and doing it repeatedly,
and you dare people to not point it out call

(26:33):
a thing a thing. If you're only going after brown
people in regard to immigration, and you're racially profiling the
brown people and you're getting citizens caught up in it.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
It is then fair for me to say, hey, that's racist.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
It really is. And if you're going.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
And picking up people off the street and you're calling
for an investigation of people who may politically oppose you,
if you're fabricating indictments without even the support of actual
evidence improbable cause, then.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yes, that's fascism. Now, if there's another word that you
would like me to use that's more acceptable, more pleasing,
that you find is more tasteful, more agreeable, easier for
you to swallow, I'm all for it. But in the
meantime these other words will do. It's a Friday. You
got to let it all go, Kim, because I can't

(27:31):
hold back marking coming back too.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
This is your moment.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Let it all free. The Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Kim, how about some news I like it. Let's do it.
I'm the Mark Compton Show. I'm Kim McCallister. This report
is sponsored by Coach Hell Coffee dot Com. The House
will vote on a measure that forces the Justice Department

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to release all of its Jeffrey Epstein case files. House
Speaker Mike Johnson is required to put the bill on
the floor after a discharge petition related to the matter
reached the two hundred and eighteen signatures needed. This follows
the release of emails from Epstein to his associate Glaine Maxwell,
as well as a journalist that referenced Trump claiming in

(28:27):
one that President Trump quote knew about the girls. Meanwhile,
President Trump may have the final say in whether the
complete Epstein files are ever even released. If enough Republicans
approve the measure, it will go to President Trump's desk
for his signature, and then Trump could choose to veto
that legislation, leaving Congress to vote again to override the veto.

(28:49):
How does it look mo If Trump votes votes to veto,
it does it look like he's not so transparent.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Look, he's that desperate and he doesn't care about the
appearance of transparency more than the appearance of evidence and
damning emails and photos and videos. He has to pick
his poison, and I think he'll choose the veto as
opposed to the reality of the evidence.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
That's what it looks like. The federal employees today are
returning to work, despite some uncertainty over paychecks after the
government shutdown. The White House reportedly has urged federal agencies
to send paychecks as fast as possible to workers who've
been without pay. Some expected to get paychecks as soon
as this weekend. The race to be California's next governor

(29:38):
might be adding another big name. Congressman Eric Swalwell said
to be considering a run. He has been a Democratic
representative from the Bay Area for twelve years and, of course,
a vocal critic of Trump. A couple of sources telling
MSNBC that it's all but decided that he will be
running for governor. This comes days after US Democratic Senator

(29:59):
Alex Padia decided not to run for governor. Senator from California.
It also comes as the White House asked the Justice
Department to investigate Swalwell for alleged mortgage tax fraud. Mortgage
and tax fraud. Swalwell believes the Trump administration is targeting
him for political reasons. How interesting that that story about
him being investigated comes out along with the news that

(30:23):
he may be considering a gubernatorial run.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
What a coincidence. It's almost like serendipity or something.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
What a clinky dink. There's been an arrest in connection
with the shooting of an athletic director of a California
community college that was featured in the Netflix docu series
Last Chance You. John Beam was shot at Laney College
in Oakland on Thursday and remains in critical condition. Police

(30:51):
are not giving details on the arrest made in the case.
Beam was the school's longtime football coach when he appeared
on that Netflix streaming show So That All went Down
yesterday at Laney College in Oakland. That statue that shows
President Trump skipping and holding hands with Jeffrey Epstein has

(31:13):
now found another new temporary home. It's called best Friends
Forever the statue and it was put up on the
national Mall September twenty third, almost immediately removed by the
US Park Police for alleged permit violations. It reappeared briefly
October second, was taken down there. It is taken down
a few days later. The statue now stands at the

(31:35):
corner of Fourteenth and v As in Victory in Northwest DC,
in front of a bus Boys and Poets location. A
signposted near the statue calls it a form of political
satire designed to spark conversation on the relationship between Trump
and Epstein. That statue reportedly remains at the location until Monday.

(31:56):
Speaking of monuments to things, there is a southern California
city renaming a stretch of roadway after conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
The city of Westminster will replace the signs of All
American Way between Westminster Boulevard and Thirteenth with new signs
that say Charlie Kirkway. Despite pushback from some community members,

(32:19):
the city council voted four to one in favor of
honoring the now deceased founder of Turning Point USA. He
passed away after being shot during a speaking engagement at
Utah Valley University on September tenth at the age of
thirty one. So now he has a street named after him.

(32:41):
That's exciting. George's case against President Trump and others regarding
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Speaker 2 (38:43):
The Mark Thompson Show. I saw this story and Kim
reminded me of this story, and I'm going to take
it in a different direction. The news headline is Seattle
has a new mayor, Katie Wilson. It was the election
was prebviously last week, but now they've finished counting and
they've officially certified. And Wilson is only forty three years old,

(39:06):
won by two thousand votes, the thinnest margin for a
mayoral race in recent Seattle history. But if you also
know anything about Katie Wilson, she's self branded as progressive
and socialists. And this speaks to a larger, what I believe,
movement in not only politics, but also the governance of municipalities,

(39:33):
where people seemingly are more open to the idea of
publicly embracing officials who characterize themselves as either democratic socialists
or straight up socialists. Me. I have always been and
this is what I really want you to hear from you, Kim,

(39:55):
I have always been reticent as far as strategy goes
to recommend candidates defining themselves in such a way. You
think of Zora Mundani. He won the election, but he's
spent a good two three months having to defend and
explain the label of democratic socialists. You know, you have AOC,

(40:20):
and you have Bernie Sanders at nauseum having to explain
over and over again democratic socialism, and I think to
the point where it gets in the way of the
intended message and the intended policy positions, and you allow
the other side to mischaracterize who you are. For all

(40:44):
the effort that Mamdani put into explaining democratic socialism, he
will still call the communists. He still called a communist.
And I'm not saying that. You know, there's no value
in self determining your can't to see and not letting
your opponent define you. But I do believe you cut

(41:05):
yourself off from some of the electorate because going back
to the thirty to thirty five percent ignorance of the population,
these distinctions are probably lost on them and they may
not understand.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Put it this way, I would love to believe.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
That the majority of Americans understand the difference between socialism
as an economic system, socialism as a form of government,
and also communism as an economic system and communism as
a form of government. I would love to believe that
America is capable of having a majority of people understanding

(41:43):
the difference between socialism in Norway and socialism in Venezuela.
But we have a largely uninformed electorate, and people usually
go to the lowest common denominator and just call everything communism,
or they hold up Venezuela as the example for everything

(42:07):
which is quote unquote socialism and not understanding the subtle
distinctions and differences and win many candidates. And I say
this knowing good and well. It did not stop Mom, Donnie,
it did not stop Katie Wilson. But I do believe
it made the road that much more difficult. Kim, do

(42:27):
you think there's any truth in that?

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I think there's a lot of truth to that, But
I also think you're asking too much of the American
people who can't even figure out that they're the ones
paying for Trump tariffs and now we want to throw
down a comparative government class on them. They're never going
to figure it out. I don't think that that is
going to work at all. People aren't going to know it,
and that in the past, America and movies and you know,

(42:52):
propaganda has spent so much time drilling into America that
you know, oh, you're a dirty socialist, pinko and these
are fighting words, right, these are You couldn't be any
lower on the scumbag chain if you're a dirty pink o,
commie socialist, all these words, regardless of the truth of
what it really means. And so there's something to you

(43:15):
when you say, just don't say it. You know, be it,
but don't say it. We don't have to harp it,
you know, over and over again to let people.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Marinate in it.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I wonder, though, to your point, is there a difference
between being a democratic socialist and just being a progressive
democrat And would that be enough to just say you're
a progressive.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I think you're right, and maybe someone who's a democratic
socialist will say no, no, no, the democratic socialists would focus
more on the economic policies of progressive politics as opposed
to just the progressive which is more I guess and inclusive.
I just always think in terms of strategy, don't create
problem for yourself as a candidate that you don't necessarily have.

(44:04):
And you also touched on something else. Can the cognitive
dissonance where we all for the most part, grew up
in and around the Cold War era when Russia was
bad you know, communism was bad, and even today you
have people on social media and politicians and elective officials
talk about communism is bad while simultaneously putting their arm

(44:27):
about all around all things Russia and support of Vladimir
Putin is like, how is it you were worried about
a quote unquote communist and this is air quotes Mom
Donnie becoming mayor of New York, But you have no
problem with whatever Putin is doing, you know, the former
KGB agent. How do you not understand that the communism

(44:51):
that you're so concerned about, the communism existing in real
time and trying to bring down the United States, is
right there in Vladimir Putin, who's in bed with not
only Donald Trump, possibly Jeffrey Epstein from more recent published reports.

(45:12):
I mean, if you want to find a boogeyman, it's
right there. You don't have to create one.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
It's he's there, It exists.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
You know, he's he's already tried to influence American elections
that undermine democracy. Why KGB, I don't don't I don't
get Americans most times. I don't understand how they don't
connect those dots, those are the easy dots to connect.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
So.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Katie Wilson, the new mayor of Seattle, is as MO says,
a self described socialist. She doesn't have a lot of
experience in politics, but here's what she's promising, moo. She
wants to find progressive and she does use the word progressive.
Ways to pay for housing and other basic services that
the city needs, She said, Seattle has been a kind

(45:58):
of laboratory for progressive policy. She's inferred that her administration
will pursue similar ideas in the future, pledging to pursue
a one million dollar bond to pay for home construction
and establish new protections for renters, who make up to
fifty six percent of people that are living in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I wish her well. You know, if the best way
to convince people is to demonstrate success with your policies.
I don't know if Mum Donnie's going to be successful
in New York, but if he is, it's going to
open the floodgates for all sorts of politicians. And I
root for the success of America and Americans. If Katie

(46:43):
Wilson can be successful in Seattle, demonsterbly successful, objectively successful,
and I define success as improvement from where you were
to where you are. If she and others of similar
political PERSUA can do that, then the Democrats can do
just about whatever they want because they have the numbers

(47:06):
to support these politicians. The only problem is, I think
some of these public pronouncements get in the way AOC
if she's going to be running for senator or president,
I'll be looking very closely at how she chooses to
define herself and her politics. It's one thing when you're

(47:27):
running for Congress in a relatively small congressional district and
the people are more familiar with you as opposed to
a statewide election or a national election, where you're dealing
with a much larger swath of people, a very economic
and varying educational attainments, varying levels of understanding of these issues,

(47:51):
and what may work in your particular borough of New
York may not work in upstate New York. So I'm
very interested to see and I do believe that she's
running for Senate. I do believe that she's going to
challenge Schumer, and I do believe that she probably would
be the odds on favor to win.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
This race. In Seattle with Katie Wilson, she won only
by two thousand votes. It was very tight, very tight
on that. But you're maybe right about AOC. She might
be stepping right in for Schumer. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
It's the timing is right more than anything. And if
she doesn't step in, I don't know about the other Senator,
Jilli Brand, in terms of when she'd be up for election,
this might be the window of opportunity for AOC. Having
nothing to do with whether you're a supporter of her
or not. I have always been very lukewarm on her.

(48:45):
I think she has great energy and a passion and
a political sense about her. I don't agree with all
of her ideas and all of her methods. And yes,
and I'm the first to admit I'm a different generation.
I get that there's some things that young politicians which
they do, which don't speak to me and don't suggest

(49:08):
to me that I want them as my particular leader.
But I don't live in New York, so I don't
worry about who the mayor of New York is going
to be in the way that it was a nationalized race,
I don't worry about who's going to be a Senator
in New York. If New Yorkers choose Mom Donnie and
they have God bless them. If the state of New

(49:28):
York voters should choose in the future Alexandria Cassio Cortez
as their next senator, God bless them. I don't ever
try to suggest that I know what's best for voters
who live on the other side of the country. Conversely,
don't try to tell me what's best for me here

(49:49):
in California, because we always hear about California's gone to
Hell in a handbasket, or California is this and it's
some Floridian, it's a foreign bot, some Christian conservative in
Idaho who has no idea of what this state is like.
And Kim, I need not tell you, or Albert, I

(50:10):
need not tell you what is happening in San Francisco
or whatever is happening in Los Angeles and San Diego.
That's like three states away. There's no real connection between
the major metropolitan areas in California as opposed to other states.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
What I'd say though, about electing Democratic socialists in two
of America's biggest cities, and I don't know that that
would two constitute a trend, but I do think it
says something about something you talked about this week, Mo,
the unaffordability of America. What does it say that in
two of America's biggest cities, these Democratic socialists overcame the

(50:50):
stigma attached to socialism and managed to get into office
because people are struggling. You have these both cities very
expensive to live in, the costs rising and rising and rising.
As a matter of fact, I was just reading a
story about a rise, a steady rise in foreclosure rates

(51:10):
pointing to weakness in the housing market. And so here
you have these two candidates coming in saying they're going
to help make things affordable as far as housing and
other things that people need to live in these big
metropolitan areas. So while it's while it's far away from US,
I look at it as maybe a statement on what

(51:31):
Americans are going through that they're willing to say socialist hunt, well,
let's give it a shot.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Let's give it a shot. And I agree with that.
If anything, two things as they say can't be true.
Katie Wilson's win is definitely positive for the Democratic Party
on a just political level. I'm just offering an alternative
as far as how you present it going forward, and

(51:57):
I would say it's always good political strategy. It's best
practices to not do anything to self limit your appeal.
In other words, for example, Barack Obama, you knew that
there were going to be all sorts of chants of
he's a black black nationalist or something, he's going to

(52:19):
be pro black people. And Barack Obama never got into
the game of trying to self define what his religion
was or going back to the Jeremiah Right controversy. He
just was a politician, here are my policies. Eventually championed healthcare,

(52:40):
and I think that helped with his broader appeal. And
if you come out and say I'm a socialist or
a democratic socialist, sometimes in some years, that's louder than
the fullness of your policies or your proposed agenda. And
I would not want to do anything as a candidate,

(53:01):
which makes it more difficult for me. And let me
put it another way, Katie Wilson won by two thousand votes.
Maybe she would have won by thirty five thousand, Maybe
it wouldn't have gone to a recount. You know, it's
not just a result going back to tuesdays ago about
the election. It's also the margins involved. It could be
the difference in winning and having a mandate, it could

(53:23):
be the difference in winning and losing. We're talking about
very small margins, and these things absolutely matter. So congratulations
to Katie Wilson. But I think there is a thought
experiment to be had going forward about how candidates choose
to define themselves, whether they're going to get on the
democratic socialist train, and whether that is good for the

(53:46):
party big picture moving into twenty twenty eight. I do
suspect you're going to see more candidates perfecting to be
democratic socialists. I don't know if that is good for
the party big picture.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
It seems like the opposition would would call you out
on it whether you called yourself a democratic socialist or not.
West thrown down a five, saying it's just persing words.
Any social program is a socialist program, snap farming subsidies,
FEMA and other disaster relief that gives money to people.
Thanks Wes, you know, absolutely true.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I mean it's socialism. When you talk about public education,
it's socialism. When you're talking about emergency services, it's social Listen,
when you talk about our taxes going towards roads that
we don't drive on schools that we don't attend, services
that we don't use. But that is for a long,
thorough discussion of it. And politics is about sound bites,

(54:43):
and politics is about short messaging. And if you are
spending time explaining as they say, you're losing. And I
can't quantify this, but I can qualify it in the
sense of think of all the headwinds against momde that
I believe now you can't do anything about him being

(55:04):
a Muslim. You know, if you're a Muslim, that's are
who you are. I believe he would have received less
resistance if he just gave his policies. I believe that
Ernie Sanders would have received less resistance he didn't self
declare as a Democratic Socialist. And the same with AOC.

(55:25):
That may work where they are, I don't know if
it works beyond where they are. In other words, I
would not there's not a transitive property here where because
it worked here, it automatically works there, or because it
worked here and there, it also works in the third location.
And this is something that the Democratic Party big picture,

(55:46):
I believe, has to be very careful in the unified
messaging of the party going into possibly the twenty twenty
eight convention. What types of policies that they publicly prof
best to support as opposed to individual candidates.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Amy b says, AOC will have her time first, get
her elected to the Senate.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, and I think that's the likely next step for her.
Would she run for governor? Probably not. I would not
advise her to run for governor. And when you're in
the House, what they say inside the beltway, sometimes it's
better to stay inside the beltway. And she could be
more effective on a national scene, because I do believe

(56:32):
that she has national goals for her political career, the
Senate route is the best route.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Like this comment from Deborah May in my mind, she writes,
which may be wrong. Liberals are the corporate democrats and
progressives are more social democrats, she says. Heather Cox Richardson says,
to say social democrats not socialist social Does that make
a difference. Is that more palatable to you?

Speaker 2 (56:59):
It may? But see the thing is, that's a whole
lot of explaining to do time and time again. If
Katie Wilson, the progressive candidate, had just won, okay, but
now we're having a discussion about the socialist Katie Wilson
and whether socialist policies work in Seattle and beyond. I'm

(57:21):
just talking about the least path of resistance to becoming
elected that fundamentally should not change how Katy Wilson plans
to govern as mayor. You can talk about the same policies.
I just worry about fixing a label to yourself which
may make a difficult bigger picture, and that may be wrong.

(57:42):
I may be that may be the route to go
to win elections, and they'll demonstrate that.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah. Well see, I'm interested to watch what happens in
both New York City and Seattle to see how these
policies work for people. And it may be that if
they do, and folks find themselves being able to afford
more things and living in much better ways, that the
rest of the country will take note and suddenly the
word socialists won't be so dirty anymore.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
One more thing before we get to Michael Schure and
we have a robust political discussion, just want to hit
on this. Very quickly saw this story, and I know
you did as well. Him talking about this gallop pole,
how religion no longer important in the majority of US households.
That's not necessarily a new revelation, no pun intended, but

(58:34):
it shows a consistent theme, trajectory and progression of the
diminution of the importance of at least religion in most
US households. Maybe that's something that we should talk about
with Michael Schure as we open up. Michael Sure, he
now joins us on the show. Is customary every Friday,

(58:55):
talk a little bit about politics and more. Michael, my friend,
my brother, how are you today?

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I'm well, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I am doing well. There's so much to talk about,
and I don't necessarily want to entertain all the Jeffrey
Epstein distractions, but it's a part of the larger picture
of what's happening on Capitol Hill, where everything is still
connected to Jeffrey Epstein on some level. Either it's a
discharge petition, or it is the response by the Trump

(59:24):
administration trying to point fingers at Bill Clinton, or you
had JB. Pritzker talking about the concern of whether Trump
would try to take us to war to distract us
from it. What was your takeaway from the week around
all things Epstein?

Speaker 7 (59:38):
Well, I think that it's fascinating because it made you
look at the shutdown through a perspective that I think
we probably discussed here, which is that Trump was in
no hurry to end the shutdown because he knew that
at the end of the shutdown, and this is not
typical of all presidents. I think every president wants to
protect themselves. I don't think they would all shut the

(01:00:00):
government down so as to delay the release of something
that they knew would not be favorable for them. But
I think that everything around this shutdown, as far as
Trump was concerned, was about the Epstein files. I think
that getting making sure that a lead a Grijalvo was

(01:00:21):
not sworn in. Was Mike Johnson doing the bidding of
Donald Trump. I think that that is it cannot be ignored.
So would he take us toward to do that? I
wouldn't put very much past this president. He just shut
the government down for it. That said, Republicans are not
happy about Epstein, and whether it's Donald Trump saying let's

(01:00:42):
look at the Democrats who were involved with Epstein, that
doesn't absolve him a blame. He's also the president of
the United States. So I think as it gets injected
into every conversation, it's not just Democrats who don't like Trump.
Who are talking about Epstein. It's Republicans and its Republican
rank and file. And I have to tell you, having
spent a lot of time in the field talking to

(01:01:03):
MAGA voters, it's MAGA voters who said, well, if we
find out the Epstein stuff is true, even for us,
that would be too far. And that's more than just anecdotal.
That is, those are dozens and dozens and dozens of
voters who said that same thing to me in different ways.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
What if you were and this is a hypothetical, but
if you are a Republican member of Congress right now
and heretofore, you have line that's not hypothetical.

Speaker 7 (01:01:28):
No, I'm a bubble of the member of unders.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
And you qu very closely to the line of all
things Trump and whatever is Trump has done and said
you have supported. What is your political calculus right now
as far as managing and maneuvering this very dangerous Jeffrey
Epstein thing which could implicate the president, but more importantly
could possibly put you in a very precarious position as

(01:01:55):
a Republican member of Congress.

Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
You know, I think it's very easy to use the
rhetoric as a politician of saying how distasteful you find it,
how repugnant it is, and how you would hold Trump
responsible for it if it turns out true without actually
leaving the platform in totality. The other thing that we're

(01:02:18):
going to find out right now is that Congress is
made up of five hundred and thirty five very very
ambitious people, and some of them want to be president,
and some of them who are Republican want to be president.
And as time goes on, whether it's about Epstein or
other things, there are going to be people from his
own party are going to try and differentiate themselves from

(01:02:39):
him from MAGA if they find that, especially in twenty
twenty six, if Trump voters don't show up when he's
not on the ballot, it's going to be a lot
easier for these Republicans to go against Trump. So on
issues of Epstein, it's a no brainer. I mean, many
presidents would say, yes, it would give you the go
ahead to criticize me on this because we need to

(01:03:01):
keep this majority. So criticizing him while also saying you're
going to vote with what the White House's priorities are
for Republican that seems okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Given the SCOTUS ruling on presidential immunity. I'm willing to
believe that this president is not concerned about actual consequences
coming out of the Jeffrey Epstein revelations and emails or
anything which should come out of the files. But if
you were Donald Trump, in the best way that you
could characterize what you may think, this president is thinking,

(01:03:33):
what is the worst case scenario for him and what
is the best case scenario for him to get through this.

Speaker 7 (01:03:39):
I mean, the best case scenario is the best case
scenario that he's been able to get through every single
I'm answering the second part first is that he's been
able to get through everything that he has been impermeable
to any kind of scandal. He's a man who's been
impeached twice, He's been convicted in court, he has lost

(01:04:00):
presidential election, come back and won another one. I mean,
this is somebody who we used to call Regan the
teflon president. Nothing sticks to this guy, and if it
does stick to him, he wears it as a badge
of honor. And that is a very very different way
than we've seen politicians work in American history. He used
to really hurt a president or any politician or anyone

(01:04:22):
you may know in life if something if they've done
something that is either illegal or distasteful. And with this guy,
it just almost keeps bolstering him. He's able to paint
himself as a victim. Now, the worst case scenario for
him is that if he starts to lose control and
MAGA loses control as a movement, it comp out of

(01:04:45):
office with low popularity in twenty twenty eight twenty twenty
nine returns him to a place where he could be
a target of law. And if he doesn't have the
support back that he got after his last loss, then
it's going to be very very difficult for him, especially
if the Justice Department falls into other hands. So I

(01:05:05):
think that, you know, should Democrats win in the in
twenty eight and there's a you know, we're getting way
ahead of ourselves. He hasn't even been president for a
year in this second term, but if that's if that
were to happen, then he becomes a target of the law.
I think the worst case scenario for Donald Trump is always,
you know, is always jail, right, is always having to
answer and also to see that the you know, a

(01:05:28):
lot of his finances crumble.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
We know that in his response thus far, the president
has called for investigations into Bill Clinton, specifically related to
Jeffrey Epstein, which I thought was odd because you are
further promoting the Epstein story being covered in the news,
and we know that not only were you friends with Epstein,
you were friends with Clinton. I say this, I see

(01:05:54):
this as a bluff. He doesn't actually want an investigation
into Bill Clinton because Bill Clinton is conceivably could say yes,
put me on trial, and I'll talk about the times
that I saw Donald as well.

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
Yeah, I think so too. I mean, I don't know
that it's a bluff. I think whenever Donald Trump. Donald
Trump loves what about isms, right, I mean he loves
saying that guy did it too, or she did it,
or you know, how come they got away with it?
And I can't get away with it. I look, it's
not great for the Clinton legacy. But Bill Clinton is

(01:06:26):
an older man who is no longer president anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
Donald Trump is an older man who is now president.
And I always think that the foibles of a sitting
president are worse than anything one of his predecessors may
or may not have done. And you know, Bill Clinton
also hasn't spent a great deal of time denying anything.
He hasn't had to answer for it in such a way.

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And Donald Trump has lied at every turn about it.
And I think that's different. I'm not excusing any of it.
And this is a bad guy, and I don't know
the depths of his you know how horrible people knew
he was at the time. I just simply don't know that.
But I know that for a sitting president to have
that association is poisonous.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Also, we know that just a day or so ago
we have recently reopened the government, but it seems like
the shutdown was four months ago in terms of a
news cycle. Is there any lasting impact of the shutdown?
Just politically we know it. It's still there's a lasting
impact for Americans who have been fully reinstated as far

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as their jobs or what have you snapped benefits, But
as far as politically, are there any lasting effects?

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
You know? I think that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:40):
Here's the thing. I think that what the lasting effects
of this are are that it sets the table for
twenty twenty six. While Democrats are frustrated that their party
kind of ended the shutdown by crossing over and voting
with Republicans. They did get an intangible out of this,
which is they were the ones who shut the government

(01:08:02):
down ostensibly about healthcare. They knew they weren't going to
get any concessions from the Republicans, but they didn't get
any reception concessions from Republicans. And Republicans are going to
have to answer for that either with a healthcare plan
of their own, which they've never been able to come
up with. You know, they voted down Obamacare. You know, God,

(01:08:22):
it had to have been over fifty or sixty times
in the Senate, and yet they never had an object
a kind of a counter to it. They didn't have
their plan to fix healthcare. They don't have one now.
So in twenty twenty six, the Democrats are still going
to be able to say that they are the party
that wants to protect your health care, that wants to

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protect these subsidies. And that's valuable, that's super valuable. That's
valuable in states where Democrats don't run well as well.
You look at a state like Florida, you look at
a state like Arizona where they've had you know, middling success.
I mean, they do have senators and they do have
the governor there, but presidentially it's been up and down
for Democrats there. I think this is very very important stuff.

(01:09:09):
I know there are Democrats that are frustrated and angry
and think that it was a party that bent, But
I don't think it was all lost for Democrats, and
I don't think that it was all one for Republicans
that they Republicans have to find an answer on healthcare
because if not, they're going to get stung by it,
especially with Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Not on the ballot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
In a political sense, we have to be able to
walk in chew gum. It's not just the domestic issues,
but the international issues. Some of them are being used
as a way of to distract from the domestic issues.
We know that another fishermen's boat was destroyed. I believe
last night another four people were killed under the guise
of protecting America and America's interests from the flow of drugs.

(01:09:49):
I'm personally surprised that this hasn't been more of an
issue for the Trump administration, not pushing aside the Epstein scandal,
but I'm surprised that this hasn't provided more pressure against
the administration given what seems to be international lawlessness. Now,
from where you sit, is this something which could also

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be a serious issue of contention for the administration in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
So far as.

Speaker 7 (01:10:16):
Geopolitical issues matter in a political sense in America today, Yes,
I do. I don't think it's going to have staying
power and lasting power. I think that, especially a president
who ran as an America First or so much of
it became about the domestic issues. So much of it,
you know, so much of our politics right now is

(01:10:38):
based on how much a carton of eggs costs. For
whatever reason. It won't remain that way forever. But I
think when you are worried about the cost of healthcare
and a carton of eggs, Venezuela is not the pressing
issue that a lot of people want it to be.
And I'm not saying that it shouldn't be. I'm just
saying that that's the political reality, at least for now.

(01:11:00):
You know, Ukraine withstood a battering last night, over the
last two days, and these are wars that the president
said would end within moments of his taking the presidency.
So those issues are are not going to go away.
And a president does Every president has done it, that knows,
no party or or no personality. They do look overseas

(01:11:23):
when things are not good at home. But this is
a president who promised more at home. This is a
party to promise more at home, and that's really going
to be the political reality. I don't think it's going
to be about you know, these hitting venezuela, even though
that does feel like a distraction, Even though it does
feel like something that is curious in many ways, I
don't think it's going to have the political power that

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other issues do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Decades ago, strategists political advisor James Carville famously said, it
is the economy stupid. So if you're right, Michael Schuur,
and people are more concerned and more focused on these
eggs and groceries and what they call kitchen table is
shoes and going back to Jeffrey Epstein because everything is
connected to Jeffrey Epstein in some way. We know the
president has promised slash floated both at the same time,

(01:12:09):
this idea of these two thousand dollars tariff rebate checks
for people, I guess they're going to be in the
mail sometime after we get our doze five thousand dollars
checks from your just conversations. Is this something which is
gaining traction anywhere. Do people actually believe this?

Speaker 7 (01:12:28):
Well, I mean yes, I think that people do believe it. Look,
I'm never going to doubt the ability of people to
believe something that somebody like Donald Trump or a politician
will say. I've seen him on too many stages in
too many places in this country and seeing people believe
everything he says, only to then be disappointed, but not

(01:12:50):
to air that disappointment, save for maybe some farmers who
were a little ticked off about Tariff's a couple of
you know, back in eighteen and then again now, I
just think that the issue of trying to buy these
votes becomes transparent, and I do think, you know, everybody

(01:13:11):
else as well, Trump is on the ballot. When Trump
is not on the ballot, it makes a big difference
when his name is not on there. And I think
whatever he tries to do, what the Republicans are selling
doesn't have as many buyers as what the Democrats are
trying to undo right now, and until that changes, I
don't think anything any of these sort of political this

(01:13:32):
political trickery is going to have an impact.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
One thing I've noticed and I don't understand as someone
who's followed this for many years and decades is how
and why the Trump administration is all over the map.
I mean that literally. On one hand, you say, it's
America first, how they want to improve the economic respectus
here in the US, and at the same time, forty
billion dollars goes out the door to Argentina and the

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President is also touting buying Argentinian beef at a discount,
much to the detriment of American suppliers. How is it
that this cognitive dissonance doesn't have more of a negative
effect on a Trump administration. It's like they want two
things to be true at the same time, even though
they're mutually exclusive and diametrically opposed.

Speaker 7 (01:14:21):
Not to mention mo, I mean, he also took a
bulldozer to the East room of the White House. I mean,
so it's both symbolic and actual.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
What this what he's.

Speaker 7 (01:14:32):
Doing in ignoring the country, but he's also attacking the
country by attacking a symbol of the country and changing
it in his own way. Uh yeah, I think what
what part of And I think you have to credit
them if that's creditable. Part of the success of Trump
has been has been chaos. It's been creating a mess

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so that the people who are following it, like you
and me and like Jane and Joe Vodor, can't keep
their attention in one place for very long. They're just
constantly moving back and forth. And that has proven successful.
So once something doesn't go right, once you say I'm
going to build a wall, I'm going to build a wall,
and then you don't build a wall. By the time
you realize that he didn't build a wall, you're looking

(01:15:16):
at something else. And I think that's what's happening again
right now with Trump and with the way this administration
is governing, is they just try and sow as much
chaos as they can and believe that people will not
be able to concentrate on what is bad and you know,
really what is good as well, because you don't have
that attention span, and you know, until it's not successful,

(01:15:39):
you have to say it's worked.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
For them not to only talk about the Trump administration.
I think there are two other conversations I'd like to
have with you very briefly before I let you go,
Michael Schure. There's also what the Democrats are are not doing.
We have the Democrats who've had some recent election wins,
some successes. Was just talking I don't know if you
heard the portion of the conversation talking about Katie Wilson,

(01:16:01):
how she won her mayoral bid in Seattle, and she's
openly professed as a socialist, and I was offering some
pushback to that. I said, I don't know about the
political or conventional wisdom. And I don't know if that's
conventional today's world, but the conventional wisdom of defining yourself

(01:16:21):
or offering yourself as a socialist or democratic socialist, does
that make it more difficult for you as a Democratic
political candidate to get elected? And I know it's a
long form question, let me ask you like this, did
Katie Wilson make it more difficult for herself? Did Zorn
Mam Donnie make it more difficult for himself by the

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public proclamations of being a socialist or democratic socialist?

Speaker 7 (01:16:46):
You know, I don't know that they made it more
difficult for themselves. They both won. I think they may
have made it more difficult for the Democratic Party distance
themselves from the mayors of two very important cities, because
they're going to at some point they're going to have to.
But you know, I think, and I've said this about
Zora mam Domnidani, is that I think he is far

(01:17:08):
too smart to be dumb. So I don't think he's
going to govern in a way that is going to
alienate democrats. I just don't think that's going to happen.
And yes, he's going to be labeled, and people who
support him are going to be labeled. It's why you
saw you know, you could call it spinelessness, but sometimes
it's it's politically astute to distance yourself from somebody who

(01:17:29):
may seem toxic. Again, Seattle, the mayor Seattle doesn't hold
the same national allure as the mayor of New York does.
But I see your point, and there are similarities there.
The other thing is that you know, whether or not
it's about their socialism democratic socialism, it's about going against
the establishment, and you know, and and that is always

(01:17:50):
in vogue at different times throughout history. And it doesn't
mean that it's a wave that's going to go against
the establishment. It's going to mean that some mistate bablishment,
some you know, died in the world. Democrats are going
to lose because there is a wave like this. So
you see a Cuomo, you know, a dynastic family like
the Cuomo family upended in New York by somebody who

(01:18:11):
is a kind of a Johnny come Lately, but a
good one and a successful one. But we'll see where
it goes. The other thing is do they hurt themselves?
No mayor of New York has ever gone on to
higher office, So I don't know how much mum Donnie
is going to hurt himself here. If he succeeds or
exceeds that office, he will be the first to ever
do that, and then he will have disproven that. But

(01:18:34):
for the most part, these people don't Mayors, especially of
New York. I don't know so much about Seattle. Mayors
of New York don't really have political futures.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Are we looking at the end of Chuck Schumer's career.

Speaker 7 (01:18:48):
Only if he wants it to be. I don't think
that anything he did here would would you know? The
voters of New York are absolutely you know, the last
arbiters of that. If he gets a primary challenge from
Representative Ocassio Cortez or anybody else, that could end it. Sure,

(01:19:09):
the ballot bots could end it, but I don't think
that he has lost hold of the leadership by any means.
I think that there are leaders in waiting, and he
knows that. But I think it's going to be just
sort of the chronology of time that dictates when he leaves.
And look, he may stand down from leadership, he certainly
wouldn't do it now. And I don't think that he
thinks he lost in this last even though I'm my

(01:19:32):
personal belief that he was behind those votes going to
the other side, even though he voted against it. I
think that he knew who could get the government back
going and was in He comfortably thought the Democrats still
own healthcare, which until proven otherwise, they do, and that
he thought the time was right to come back, get

(01:19:53):
the Epstein stuff out there and do this. So he
found people that were either not running again, like to Durban,
or people who are in battled like John Fetterman, or
people who aren't going to run for a couple of years,
like the senators in Nevada. So I'm jeene shei heenes
not running, So I think that it was convenient. I
don't know that to be true. I mean, that's hearsay,

(01:20:16):
It's believable, because that's the behavior of majority leaders and
minority leaders on consequential votes. I don't think it's the
end of Chuck Schumer unless he wants it to be.
I'm not an alarmist about that. Whatever I think of
Chuck Schumer as a leader, I just I don't think
it's the end until he says it is, or until
he loses at the ballot box.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
These questions, Michael Shah, I appreciate you answering them, these
questions because I've long thought that, especially now that the
future of the Democratic Party is inextricably linked to the
politics in New York. I wonder if Minority Leader Hakim
Jeffries is the future of the Democratic Party that ties

(01:20:56):
back to New York. I wonder if Chuck Schumer is
minority leader of the party or should be minority leader.
That's also New York. And I want to juxtapose that
to the recent retirement announcement of Nancy Pelosi, how she's
not running for office, and I wonder whether that was
not a signal too specifically Chuck Schumer about there needs

(01:21:19):
to be a changing of the guard. Am I reading
too much into that?

Speaker 5 (01:21:23):
I think probably?

Speaker 7 (01:21:24):
I mean, I don't think that I agree with the
New York thing, even though two leaders in Congress are
from New York, and you know, New York is clearly
a powerful place. California had the last nominee for president
was from California, the Speaker of the House was from California.
And you know, one of the presumed front runners in
the twenty twenty eight election as the governor of California,

(01:21:47):
who has been even with the presidence of Jeffries and Schumer,
has been the number one critic I would say, nationally
of President Trump's but that notwithstanding, you know, it is
Hakeem Jeffries the right person. Look, there are people running
for office against sitting incumbents Democrats challenging incumbents in the
House next year who are now pledging that they won't

(01:22:08):
support Hakeem Jeffries for speakers. It seems a curious tactic
because if you were running against somebody, you were going
to get Hakeem Jeffries into your district if he's protecting
his status as speaker. And it's also very easy to
say that on the campaign trail. Sometimes Nancy Pelosi, because
she was such an astute politician, is such a stute politician,

(01:22:31):
would tell people say, you're not going to support me
for speaker if that helps you, criticize me if that
helps you, because they know when they get to Washington,
there's going to be a lot of pressure to support,
to be unanimous behind the speaker. These are political tactics,
and look, you're not getting the soaring oratory and the
passion that a lot of Democrats want from people like

(01:22:54):
Hakim Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. But for the moment, it's
capable leadership and we'll see where it takes them. I
know what you're saying, but I don't think that I
don't think the jig is up yet for the New
York politicians.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Maybe I've missed it, but it feels like Cory Booker
has disappeared off the political landscape. With the exception of
his filipbuster and twenty five hours behind the microphone, it
seemed like he has slid into the background. Am I
miss reading that?

Speaker 7 (01:23:24):
I mean, well, let me. I sort of want to
disagree with you, but I know what you're saying. I
don't think there's a foreground for a lot of Democrats.
And so while I as he slipped into the background,
perhaps he's one of you know, one hundred senators, they've

(01:23:44):
been in a shutdown. There's no that's the problem of
being in the minority in Congress is that you just
have no platform. So I don't think that there is
really a fore ground except for a governor like Avenues.
We can pick up and go to Brazil and make
and make hay By a climate conference because our president
is and who can get on the airwaves and criticize

(01:24:05):
Donald Trump at every turn, who can put something on
the ballot and campaign on it. So while Senator Booker is,
you know, we don't hear as much from him now
there's really I mean, without that filibuster, we wouldn't have
heard a peep from any of them. So I defy
anyone to find anyone who is in Gavin Newsom right
now or maybe to some extent Pritzker and Wes Moore

(01:24:28):
and Maryland who have a loud Democratic voice.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Last question, and not as a curveball, is just a
change in discussion. We also briefly discussed this Gallup poll
how religion no longer important in the majority of US households.
That's a part of a larger trend I think that
has been happening in America. I say this as a
Christian full disclosure. Politically, what does that say about the

(01:24:55):
evolving demographics of voters and how it may help or
hurt Democrats if there's any connection you think you can
make there. Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (01:25:05):
I think there's a big difference between a pole saying
that it's not as important to translating to the campaign
trail where you can minimize religion. You know, so while
it may be in decline, and I believe that. I
think younger generations are less religious than older generations were

(01:25:27):
and are, But I don't think it's not political currency
until you can take go out there on the campaign,
on the hustings, as it were, and say, oh, these
people are so caught up with religion. It's not about religion.
You still cannot criticize religious people in this country. And
I don't think anybody who's watching this or is on
this is going to be alive when you can and

(01:25:50):
so in a sort of widespread way. So it's certainly interesting.
It certainly shows that there are ways of influencing the
populace that you don't have to as carefully. But Republicans
are still going to need the Christian vote in order
to get the nomination for president, and Democrats are not
going to be able to go against you know, they're

(01:26:12):
not going to be able to oversecularize the country as
candidates either. So it's it's interesting. Certainly, it's believable, but
I don't know that it translates into politics yet.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Michael Share. I love having these discussions with you. It's
not like you know the topics that I'm going to
bring up, but you're so versatile, so knowledgeable, and so relatable.
You just make it easy, just rolls off your tongue.
And I love doing this with you. Usually I get
to talk alongside of you, but to actually ask you
the questions. It's in the treat while I've been hosting
the Mark Thompson Show. Michael, thank you so much for

(01:26:44):
what you're doing. Coming on once again.

Speaker 7 (01:26:45):
All right, thanks Moe. Thanks for those words.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
We'll see well real quickly.

Speaker 8 (01:26:49):
We got one comment from the depressed Canadian here do
you see this my?

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Oh honest?

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Here?

Speaker 7 (01:26:54):
Well the oilers, Yeah, it's brutal. We do, Moe always
done forty eight seconds of sports here?

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Oh yes, okay, and so these are.

Speaker 7 (01:27:04):
Our forty eight seconds of sports and it's a hockey question.
Uh so, uh, I think the Oiler there are goalies
out there. I think they're going to end up with
Nashville's goalie and giving up a lot for it. UC
sorrows would be. My guess is that he's going to
go there to press Canadian But man, they look really
flat and really bad, those Oilers, and they do need
their creases in jeopardy right now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
I'm never going to root for the Oilers. Go Kings go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Okay, there you go, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
The Mark Thompson Show, Kim, I just had to throw
that in there because the Oilers had knocked off the
Kings in the playoffs, and the.

Speaker 8 (01:27:43):
Oilers three or four straight years, I feel like the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yes, it's a very tumultuous history.

Speaker 8 (01:27:50):
Okay, Dead Texas and the Oilers playing the Kings and
the NHL playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Michael sure a huge hockey fan, so h yeah, we
always talk hockey with him. Another note though, and I'll
throw this to you because it was addressed to you
and Michael, but with our eyes, Rise throws in twenty
and says on religion, did you know that the arc
of the Covenant is in Mount Kenya, which is the
Mountain Zion of all ancient texts. See the Green Lover's

(01:28:19):
dream and join them daily Mount Kenya for global peace.
So with our eyes or eyes likes to promote that,
but thank you for the contribution. We appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
I did not know that. I hope they don't open
it because we all know because of ratist laws ARC,
it will probably kill everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Cc Ryder comes in with ten says Democrats need to
study and master mom Donnie's style. What he did, says
CEC is so effectively was counterattacks on socialism with strength
and conviction. His solid, sensible answers persuaded the voters.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Certain things you can't teach. He is a talented, talented politician,
regardless of his political disposition. Yes, you can study it,
but there's certain things I believe are innate in certain candidates.
People have studied Barack Obama for years. They haven't been
able to imitate or duplicate his style and resonance with voters.

(01:29:18):
If people could duplicate it, they would print it out,
they would market it, they would sell it. And that's
why political parties are always on the lookout for young, talented,
electable individuals.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Certain things you just can't teach. There's something about the
way about someone as well their personality, the way they
are relatable to people. Those things, yes, are very hard
to replicate. The Lady Beatrice with five especially important after
our This Week in Politics segment. May the Force be

(01:29:51):
with you, Jim Avola. We will miss your contributions to
our time together. Thank you, The Lady Beatrice appreciate that
and the words for Jim Avola. Eugenia. They are now
with five. Mo and Kim have a good weekend. Tell
us how is Mark and where is he? Thank you.
Mark is in Colombia and he will be back on Monday.

(01:30:14):
And he looks to be if Instagram is any indication,
having a grand time in Colombia. So he's doing really well.

Speaker 8 (01:30:22):
I don't know about last night. He got his flight canceled,
so he spent an extra day in Colombia.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Oh no, so Kim, I will be on standby for Monday,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
I have no Oh no, an extra day in Colombia.
I could think of worse things.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Yeah, I've never been to South America. That's next on
my list. I've been to Corsou, which is about twenty
eight miles off the coast of Venezuela. That's as close
as I've been. But yeah, that's next. My wife and
now we try to hit a different continent each time
we travel in South America. Will be next. We're supposed

(01:31:03):
to go to Belize. I know that's not South America,
but then use that as a jumping off point to
go to South America.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Well, just stay out of Venezuela and perhaps Colombia as well.
Right things seem to be heating up and heating up.
I don't know. You know, the top officials are supposed
to present Trump with military options for Venezuela in the
coming days, so we'll see where he goes with this.
But this whole drum beat to war with such a

(01:31:32):
small country with not much of a military just seems
almost ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
No, it is. It's but it's also perfect in a
political sense, where you could start and finish a war
relatively quickly, not have to even worry about putting boots
on the ground, and then use that to distract from
all things Epstein, at least for a few weeks or
a few months. If we were to actually commit to

(01:31:58):
military aggression against Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Smart military officials don't want their services to have to
be used, right, they don't want to go to war.
But now you've got so called Secretary of War Pete
HeiG Seth, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Caine,
and other senior officials briefing the President on military options

(01:32:23):
in the coming days. I don't trust mister Marquismo got
to use a screwdriver to drill in the plate or whatever.
I don't trust heg Seth to have the brains to
know that the use of force is not what he wants.
He may see it as this testosterone filled Yeah, let's

(01:32:44):
go in and do these land incursions in Venezuela. I
just don't see him as a level headed strategist.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Why would that be because he's inexperienced, does not have
the have the requisite resume to be second ataria of
war defense? Might did it have something to do with that?

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
It's already provocative. They've got the USS gerald Ford Carrier
Strike Group, uh, you know, dealing with it down in
the Caribbean. So this whole thing is it's stressful.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
It's going to get worse, Kim, It's going to get worse. Well,
maybe we need to just lighten it up for a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Lighten up, Francis.

Speaker 9 (01:33:27):
Let's do it the Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
It's Friday, and you know what that means. It's Friday,
Fabulous Florida.

Speaker 10 (01:33:39):
It's time for a Friday Fabulous Florida. Oh look, the
weirdest stories from our weirdest state.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Let's start with this first Flora Florida story. We all
know that we at times driving too fast because we're
in a rush. We're trying to get somewhere before a
store may close. But I've never gone one hundred and
five miles an hour because I was trying to beat
the doors closing at a pizza place. A Florida woman

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has been arrested for driving one hundred and seven miles
an hour trying to get to Little Caesar's before it closed.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
When you absolutely positively have to have it right now, mo, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Should have ordered ten minutes earlier, deputies say. Yasmin and Arazzo,
twenty one years old, was tracked at one hundred and
seven miles an hour in her Kia, which is an
accomplishment all by itself, as she sped northbound on US
Highway nineteen in Palm Harbor and the speed limit is
fifty five miles an hour. The traffic stop was made,
and while being arrested, Arizo told deputy she was speeding

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to get to Little Caesars before the store closed, as
if telling that truth was going to, I don't know,
make her not get arrested, or make it sound any
better or see any better. I've driven fast in my life,
not for pizza.

Speaker 8 (01:35:12):
That's pretty fast for a kiao little things go.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Why not much faster than that, I'm assuming.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Heather says, Hey, we've all been hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Yeah, I'm not going to risk my life and freedom
over Little Caesar's pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Oh, West says, and West is down in Florida says.
We have a new law in Florida called a super
speeder law. It's an automatic arrest. I think that will qualify.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
I don't know, we have that too in California. It's
I think it's just considered reckless driving, where if you
if you're like thirty or forty miles above the speed limit,
they have to arrest you. But yeah, look, and I'm
not going to be a purist here. I've driven very fast.
I had a Honda S two thousand, and I would
open it up on the way out to Vegas and
I've driven up there, but it wasn't for Little Caesar's Pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Okay, Well, you know what, Different things are important to
different people.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Mo a lot of love for her.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Her mugshot at a nine up nine, says Mimi. A
six says Karen, an eight from Tammy. Yeah she's a ten,
says de Lette.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
I like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
Cats, yes, very sexy or not.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Let's hope that Little Caesar's was worth the trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Florida man has jumped from a moving vehicle after a
child called nine one one to report her parents fighting
inside the car.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Oh wow, you heard that right? Might have to be wow.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
A Florida woman grabbed the wheel of a moving vehicle
and brought it to a safe stop after deputy say
her husband jumped from the vehicle as they tried to
pull it over following a frantic call. Yes, yes, they
were trying to pull over the car and the husband
jumped out of the car while the child in the
car called nine one one, saying her parents were arguing

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while in the car.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
That was one situation.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
I'd be willing to bet there's alcohol involved.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Oh I'm not taking that bet because I would lose.
According to the Washington County Sheriff's Office, a child called
nine one one and said she was traveling with her
parents who were fighting while driving down the road. The
child said they were on Highway seventy nine and was
able to give a description of the vehicle before the
call got disconnected. Deputies went to the area to find

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the vehicle, and when the deputy spoted the vehicle matching
the description the child gave the deputy, deputy activated lights
and sirens and tried to pull the car over, and
for some reason, the vehicle continued traveling northbound for a while,
and then the driver opened the door and jumped out
of the moving vehicle while police were in pursuit.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Out. Oh, man, look at him.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
I don't know if that's from the fight or from
the pavement.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
It looks like a rash from the pavement. This guy,
if you're listening on audio, he's got a bunch of
bloody gashes all over his face. Looks horrible.

Speaker 8 (01:38:15):
Yeah, I can't remember a mugshot that we ever showed
actually with the guy who was having blood.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Yeah. Yeah, wouldn't have been.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Easier to just pull the car over and stop.

Speaker 11 (01:38:28):
It's just rhetorical question, but I'm saying it probably would
have been easier to just stop the car since you
are driving, the police are behind you, as opposed to
jumping from a moving car.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Well, how is that story supposed to end well for him?
On any level?

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Sometimes you just need to get out, I guess.

Speaker 8 (01:38:48):
Yeah, we're getting some good rankings on the scale. We
got an eleven, a couple of tens already ranking our
mugshot photo. But yeah, this is an insane story.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Yeah, I'll go eleven. There were three minor children in
that car when the police got in.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
There could have ended much worse, much much wase.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
What a horrible experience for those kids, awful childhood.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
One more before we end this fabulous Friday Florida, Florida
man charged after sixty six pounds of cocaine found in
this Indiana traffic stop. So it didn't happen in Florida,
but a Florida man is the one belief responsible for
all this cocaine, sixty six pounds. That's like a medium

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sized child.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
He's bringing the Florida whip him wherever he goes. This
guy cocaine.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Look at that Jordan Lanier, twenty five years old, just
effed off his life. Has been charged with dealing cocaine
and possession of marijuana. But here's the thing. You have
sixty six pounds of coke in your car and to
marijuana and you're speedy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
He looks like a happy jd vance, doesn't he?

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Oh, yes, he does, he does. The eyeliner gives it away.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Wow. During the stop, he doesn't look like the kind
of guy who'd have sixty six pounds of coke in
the back of the car.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
He obviously was very confident that he could speed and
still not worry about it. During the top of the
K nine performed an open air sniff and alerted to
the presence of narcotics. Of course, sixty six pounds will
give it away, and when police search the truck, they
found a compartment allegedly containing thirty individual packages of kilos

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of cocaine. Police say the street values between six and
eight hundred thousand dollars, and Lanier faces up to thirty
years in prison if found guilty. He probably will be that's.

Speaker 8 (01:40:49):
A lot of Little Caesar's pizzas.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Circle.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Yes it is, yes, yes, but he wasn't doing one
hundred and seven. He's only doing I don't know, maybe
eighty or something. And there you have your Friday Fabulous Florida.

Speaker 8 (01:41:04):
Uh in the chat, just share what you think is
your favorite? How about you, Kim, what do you think
was your favorite this week?

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
I think I'm going for the pizza lady and her
wild ride to beat the clock on the Little Caesar's Pizza. Yeah,
what about you? Mo Oh Little Caesar's all the way.

Speaker 8 (01:41:29):
Yeah, she's driving that hot and ready. She was hot
and ready for the pizza.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
Oh what are you trying to say? Albert?

Speaker 8 (01:41:37):
Hey the bookie photo Boogie photo also great Boogey photo.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Peddy yep, mm hmm, Harlie Pizza, Yeah, Domino's Pizza Girl. Yeah,
it's a I think you're right. I think it's a
sweep this week. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
I love pizza, but not that much now. I love pizza,
not willing to go to jail for it.

Speaker 10 (01:42:03):
Lots of people, This has been Friday Fabulous Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Allen, y'all come back now here.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
He comes and goes on a rainbow.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
It is Friday. He's my new best friend. He's Michael
Schneider and he has a few of movies to review.
And let me say, Michael Snyder, good afternoon. And I
did get to see Predator bad Lands. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

(01:42:44):
I'm halfway through Frankenstein on Netflix, really enjoying that. So
I think we're kindred spirits. What you see is what
I see.

Speaker 5 (01:42:54):
I tend to agree, Mo.

Speaker 9 (01:42:56):
But before we get into any of that, I want
to publicly reveal that we are changing the name of
my review segment from Michael Snyder's Culture Blast to the
Department of Unquestionably Correct Opinions. And to that end, we're
putting up a new bronze plaque.

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
In the studio.

Speaker 9 (01:43:14):
As soon as he can find the right screws and
a Phillip screwdriver.

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
I think it's going to be a done deal. And
by the way, I.

Speaker 9 (01:43:22):
Think it's time to find out the truth of Mark's
absence from the show these past two weeks. So I
have instructed Engineer General Tony Sorrentino to begin an investigation
into whether Mark was in Columbia for a wedding or
actually at mar A Lago for Donald Trump's annual.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
Festival of Fast Food. Thank you for your attention to
this matter.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
You know Mark is not going to appreciate you positing
that he might have been at mar A Lago.

Speaker 9 (01:43:49):
You know that, right, Hey, it's just an investigation, mo.
I'm not saying one thing or the other, you know what.
All kidding aside, before we get to the movies and
TV shows. Like so many of us connected to the
Mark Thompson Show, I was saddened to receive word that
the protean investigative reporter Jim Avola.

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
Had passed away.

Speaker 9 (01:44:10):
It was an honor and a little intimidating to follow
his always articulate and thoughtful segments with and without Michael
Shore on Fridays, and as I noted on social media,
I had the good fortune to meet Jim in person.
And what you got on the air is what you
got one on one. He was a smart, honest, humble,
kind person. He was one of the good guys, and

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we're going to miss him and his insights, and we'll
continue to miss him for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Well said my friend. Well said.

Speaker 5 (01:44:42):
All right.

Speaker 9 (01:44:43):
After last weekend surprisingly large selection of worthwhile new movie offerings,
and I remarked on it at the time, we're back
to some mediocrity on the cinema scenes.

Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
Shall we get down to it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Sir, look, I assume you're going in that direction. Thank
you for confirming that. Please proceed well.

Speaker 9 (01:45:01):
Whether it's due to the rise in prevalence of envelope
pushing reality TV programming since the nineteen eighty two Stephen
King sci fi novel and the nineteen eighty seven movie
it spawned were released, or whether it's the American dystopia
that seems to now be a governmental whim away.

Speaker 5 (01:45:21):
The remake of The Running Man.

Speaker 9 (01:45:23):
That hits theaters this weekend struck me as a little
tired or played out. I mean, even the devilishly clever
filmmaker Edgar Wright. This is the guy who did last
Night in Soho Sean of the Dead baby Driver Scott
Pilgrim versus the World.

Speaker 5 (01:45:39):
I love this guy's work.

Speaker 9 (01:45:40):
Even though this is the guy who directed and co
scripted this update. He can't stop the kind of creative
inertia that belies what is often a frantic pace. Nor
can the hero being played by a square jaw the
leading man dou Joor Glenn Powell, who has a flair
for comedy, elevate this in the art that Arnold Schwarzenegg

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are kind of devoured on the big screen in nineteen
eighty seven.

Speaker 5 (01:46:05):
The basics are the same.

Speaker 9 (01:46:07):
A desperate man who needs money in a Haves Have
Not society of the near future risks his life in
a widely broadcasted, high rated Winner Takes All TV competition
show where you need to survive assassins for thirty days
to win the massive cash prize.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
Or you die. Anyway, I like this a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:46:28):
More when it was called The Long Walk, and you know, interestingly,
another Stephen King adaptation. I know The Long Walk was
a bit different insofar as it wasn't a kind of
a grandiose, guns blazing action movie like this, but after
the original Running Man and the similarly themed Battle Royale
and the Hunger Games, Rights take didn't give me something new,

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And for all its attempts to be satirical funny like
the original movie, it's surprisingly short on lafts, especially when
you consider how funny shown of the Dead than Scott
Pilgrim were. So it's kind of promising at first, it's
entertaining in sporadic bursts, and ultimately it coasts on the
every guy charisma of Powell and the skill of the

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supporting players, led by Josh Brolin, as the producer of
The Running Man show, Coleman Domingo in the Richard Dawson
m CE role. That was the case in the first
movie Lee Pace as a villain, Katie O'Brien, William H.
Macy is woefully under used, and Michael Sarah is just
plain annoying in the role he plays here. To be honest,

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I did kind of enjoy Saturday Night Live cast member
Ben Marshall, a new addition to the cast at SNL,
as a kind of a hapless and clueless contestant on
The Running Man, But that was kind of early on
in the movie. Maybe the major culprit other than that
sense of been there seen that was the script, which
seemed to me sloppy and dashed off. But whatever, This

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Running Man is too late to the finish line. Let's
just say I wouldn't run to see The Running Man,
all right?

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
Wait?

Speaker 5 (01:48:04):
Wait, My final words.

Speaker 9 (01:48:05):
On The Running Man twenty twenty five, the classic Schnyder
shrug not terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:48:11):
The Running Man is in theaters. I mean, you know,
are you disappointed that?

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
Again? Let me put it this way, I never thought
that Glenn Powell was truly a leading man. He doesn't
fill up the screen in the way that Arnold Schwarzenegger does.
I don't know if he is a bonafide star in
his own right. I think he's likable, but I don't
think he is a superstar who can hold a movie
by himself. He needs that ensemble cast. And I don't

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know if you should ever remake classics or cult classics.
The Running Man would be the latter, and I've yet
to see a remake of a cult classic do well,
So your review resonates with me greatly.

Speaker 9 (01:49:00):
And I got to say, you know, with things like
Survivor and Worse you know on television, it seems to
undercut what was kind of startling about the original and
about Stephen King's book, don't you think?

Speaker 5 (01:49:12):
I mean? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
Absolutely? And I think you hit the nail on the
head when we've been kind of anesthetize or numb to
the idea of this dystopian world because we're living through it, right,
So a movie about is not going to be all
that awe inspiring.

Speaker 5 (01:49:30):
True.

Speaker 9 (01:49:31):
Well, let's move on, and we actually have a continuation
of a franchise here. The third installment in the Now
You See Me Heist Movie franchise is as one would
hope disposable fun. These movies, which started up in twenty
thirteen with what is still the best of them, Now
You See Me, are amusing thrill rides of varying quality,

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and usually they're diverting watch and the premise is kind
of durable. A band of wiley magicians known as the
Four Horsemen rip off bad guys and try to outmagic
one another.

Speaker 5 (01:50:05):
So now you see Me, now you don't.

Speaker 9 (01:50:08):
It's the first since the twenty sixteen sequel, but we
get the familiar star studded ensemble to hopefully dazzle us
this time. The story features the characters played by Jesse Eisenberg.
He's kind of a stick in the mud, Woody Harrelson,
a kind of hilarious hypnotist, Isla Fisher a bit of
an escape artist, Dave Franco a sleight of hand guy,

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and as the fifth Horseman or Horsewoman, Lizzie Kaplan, And
they're reluctantly reuniting after ten years apart to take on
an easy to hate villain, a corrupt, super wealthy diamond
broker played by Rosamund Pike. So the familiar cast is
bolstered by some rising talent Justice Smith, Dominic CSSA, and
Arianna Greenblatt as a new generation of world class presdidigitators.

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Plus there are one or two unexpected returning faces who
shall remain nameless to avoid spoiling any prizes. Yes, it
is convoluted and implausible and silly, but that's kind of
what you sign up for when you see one of
these movies. Now you See Me, Now You Don't is
directed by Ruben Fleischer. He does this duty for the

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first time, and he manages to keep all of the
on screen misdirection happening and lively fashion like a magic trick.
Now you see Me, Now you Don't gets your attention,
then seems to disappear as soon as you finish watching it.
But I found it more enjoyable than the Running Man remake.
Now you See Me, Now You Don't is in theaters.

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Had you seen the earlier films.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
I just rewatched the first two last week in preparation
for this. I really like this this movie series. And
you said they're going to be some cameos or appearances
of other actors. I was going to ask you since
you didn't mention his name, So if you don't want
to answer, that's fine. I know that Mark Ruffalo was

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in the first two. I know that Morgan Freeman was
in the first too, but you conspicuously omitted both of
them in your review. That gives me cause for concern.

Speaker 9 (01:52:11):
Mo I cannot really say with any certainty that either
of these people is in this movie, nor are there
penguins involved.

Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
Away, so let's move on.

Speaker 9 (01:52:27):
He's played numerous loonies and weirdos and lost souls with passion,
human humor flair.

Speaker 5 (01:52:35):
But does the wild and bold Nicholas Cage have a
Messiah complex? Maybe?

Speaker 9 (01:52:41):
But in the bizarre and uneasy mix of New Testament
lore and horror, the carpenter's son Cage actually plays the
Messiah's stepfather, Joseph. So after that Bethlehem Manger situation, Cage's
Joseph wanders the desert with wife Mary, played amazingly by

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UK pop singer FKA Twigs, and amazingly not like what
a performance, but wow, FKA Twigs is playing Mary and
son Jesus is there. They are outcasts despite or because
of the boys heavenly lineage. In short order, Joseph and
we'll call him teenage Jesus played by the talented young

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British actor Noah Jupe are beset by demonic figures, the
spawn of Satan or the devil himself, tempting them to
forego their fealty to God.

Speaker 5 (01:53:33):
So add the push pull.

Speaker 9 (01:53:35):
Between Joseph and Jesus, and you've got daddy issues galore.
I know it sounds like it might be a glorious
train wreck, like some of Cage's craziest films, but no
such luck. It's all shot in the murkiest of cinematography
on location in Greece, which has never looked less sunny,
by the way, and the dialogue is rife with overwrought

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biblical pronouncements which are kind of fitfully entertaining when outed
by Cage at some horned creature that's attempting to drag
him and Jesus to hell. You know, as horror movies go,
The Carpenter Son is a tedious one. It's written and
directed by Lofty Nathan, whose name is unfamiliar to me.
You know, I would have preferred John Carpenter's Son, or

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maybe the Gospel. According to Sam Raimie, the overall vibe
is more like the Necronomicon, you know, the fictional book
of the Dead in Ramy's Evil Dead franchise than the Bible.
And that said, it is nowhere near as exciting, goofy
and genuinely scary as seeing Bruce Campbell going bonkers with
a chainsaw in those Ramie films. As for seeing teenage

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Jesus deal with his tormentors, I couldn't help but be
reminded of Teenage Jesus and the Jerks. Singer and poet
Lydia Lunch's New York based art punk band from the
eighties who's churning chaotic music might have broken up the
dolorous nature of The Carpenter Son, which is in select
theaters if you choose to select them.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
That hurts my heart because I'm a huge Nicholas Cage
fan and it's been decades since he's had a decent movie.
Oh no, no, no, no, no, mo.

Speaker 5 (01:55:12):
If you haven't seen Pig, you're really missing out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
No no, I saw Pig and I couldn't finish Pig. How
bad it was?

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
Oh my god, I love Pig. Anyway.

Speaker 9 (01:55:23):
You know different strokes. I know we follow different sports teams.
You know we'll agree to disagree. Anyway, Let's move on.
You've heard of or seen the Muppet Babies in the
crime Business as usual Feds versus cartel's movie trap house,
you can meet the DEA teens. At least that's what
transpires when Cole, the son of Dave Batista's tough but

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loving single father government agent character Ray Seal, decides to
organize his fellow offspring of the El Paso Texas DEA
team to rip off a cartel trap house where the
drug smuggler's ill gotten loot his left for pickup. So
Cole has charitable intentions. He wants to use the cash
to help out unfortunate victims of the border drug war,

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but that puts him in the other teams in the
crosshairs of the cartel and raised DEA unit. This whole
thing is a bit of a stretch, as is the
presence of the great film, TV and stage actor Bobby
Kenna Valley, most recently in Blue Moon and the last
season of Only Murders in the Building. Here he plays
Batista's best buddy in the DEA I guess you know, Bobby.

Speaker 5 (01:56:30):
Got to eat. You know, the job comes along and
you take it.

Speaker 9 (01:56:34):
The kid actors are all right, starting with Jack Champion
as Cole, but You also get Sophia Lillis in the
Navarette and Blue del Barrio, who have all done interesting
work on TV and in film. It's directed by someone
named Michael DAWs, produced of all people by Ridley Scott,
among others including Bautista. What this is so incredibly you

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know it's gone as soon as you watch it? I
mean I think that now you see it, now you
see me, Now you don't linger it? A little more
than this, I will say this. I didn't hate trap House,
but again, you know that's just a cut below not terrible. Anyway,
a trap House is in select theaters. Let's see if
we can get to something a little more worthwhile, and yes, Serat.

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Serat depicts a stunning, wrenching odyssey through the wasteland of
southern Morocco by a father named Luis and his son Esteban,
as they search for Esteban's sister, who has been missing
since she attended a rave in North Africa a number
of months back. As such, since they're there, Luis and

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Esteban hook up with a bunch of ravers who are
on their way to yet another big desert dance party.
And it's kind of interesting, real Ravers play the road
trippers that Luis and Esteban follow on their way to
the next festival, but it's happening as the world descends
into chaos around them. They get the occasional news report

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that kind of global wars breaking out. So the sense
of madness and dislocation that the movie conjures is totally
enhanced by a blasting soundtrack of frenzied techno music, or
if you prefer edm that kind of shakes the desert sands.
Sarat is kind of relentless and occasionally explosive, and I

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felt myself kind of inadvertently leap in my seat a
couple of times. It is directed and co written by
Oliver Lax and won the Jury Prize at the twenty
twenty five can Film Festival and also is Spain's official
submission for Best International Feature Film at the upcoming ninety
eighth Academy Awards.

Speaker 5 (01:58:46):
Sarat is brutal and powerful.

Speaker 9 (01:58:50):
It's gone to rattle a few people, but I do
think it's a pretty great film. It is in select theaters,
and you know, let's things up with something for the
whole family, because I kind of like to do that.
Arco is the latest wondrous French animated feature in a
string of beautiful projects that includes from France that includes

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the sci fi to Our Mars Express, the biographical Little Amili,
which I talked about last week, and the TV shows
Arcane and Scavenger's Reign. The French animation industry is on
a serious role. Like Little Amili, Arco, which was directed
and co written by Hugo Bienvenu, is made in a
design style that evokes the anime glory of venerated Japanese

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filmmaker Hayal Miyazaki of Studio Jibli. The people that brought
you wonderful movies in the past, just things that people adore,
like my neighbor Totro and you know, I won't even
get into a list of them.

Speaker 5 (01:59:51):
But Miyazaki is a master.

Speaker 9 (01:59:54):
But Arco has a very singular tone and a fantastical
story to tell about a boy named Arco who comes
from a distant future and arrives in the year twenty
seventy five, is stuck there and with the help of
a girl named Iris that he meets there and then
tries to somehow return to his time and family. The

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movie is enhanced by a beautiful color palette, which is
reinforced by the conceit that Arco comes and goes through
time on a rainbow.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
I was thinking doing.

Speaker 9 (02:00:27):
The filmmakers for that whole appropriation, but I was so
charmed by the visual confection that is Arco that I
will I'll let it slide. Arco is in select theaters.
It's going to be a good thing to watch over
the holidays, and it gets to video in time. The
whole family can gather around and enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Arco Michael Let's quickly review. You said The Running Man
was too late to the finish line. I am always
going to be partial to the original. I'm not a
fan of remaking classics or cult classics. The Running Man
Richard Dawson, Arnold Swarzenegger, cult classic. Love that version and iteration.
But I'll watch Glenn Powell's. I won't have this high

(02:01:10):
expectations Now you See Me, Now you don't the third
in that trilogy. I love the Now you See Me franchise.
I hope I will love the third one as well.
But you said huge casts, but it seems to disappear
along the way. So I will see if my expectations
meet your reality.

Speaker 5 (02:01:29):
Let me amend that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:29):
Let me amend it.

Speaker 9 (02:01:30):
Don't know it disappears after you've watched it. It's very
much of the moment. It's very enjoyable while you watch it.
Don't misconstrue, So it's disposable.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
You know, you'll you won't waste your time, but you
won't think much about it afterward.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:01:43):
I thought much in the same manner that a movie
like The Running Man remake is disposable.

Speaker 5 (02:01:48):
So is this.

Speaker 9 (02:01:48):
But I found this to be more enjoyable to watch
and more fresh and entertaining. Even though again, you know
we've been here two other times.

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
You didn't have a lot positive to say about The
Carpenter Sun starring Nicholas Cage, among others. I would dub
Nicholas Cage now as the king of the B movie.
You said the Carpenter's son had bad photography. It was
a drab and at times tedious.

Speaker 9 (02:02:15):
Yeah, it's the muddiest of visual presentations, and you know,
I just it was silly, but not in a enjoyable way.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
Trap House starring, among other people, what's his name, Dave Batista.
He's paired with children of the Dea. It's a heightst
film a huge stretch is completely forgettable. You said it's
available and select theaters. It sounds like it should have
gone straight to video.

Speaker 9 (02:02:46):
Yeah, it was fun to watch a sort of, but
not as much fun as now you see.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
Me sarat big desert dance party as the world implodes.
That just gets me right there. I'm curious because I
like world ending movies. You said it had a blasting soundtrack,
but it's worth a watch ultimately, and I think I'm
gonna make time for it.

Speaker 9 (02:03:09):
Yes, but I want to keep you aware of the
fact that all of what's going on in the rest
of the world is removed.

Speaker 5 (02:03:16):
It's not on screen. We only have hints of it.

Speaker 9 (02:03:19):
What we do have is this brutal odyssey through the desert,
and it was very powerful for me.

Speaker 2 (02:03:26):
Sounds good. And you closed out with Arco, the French
animated feature singular in tone, talking about this young boy
stuck in time, with the exception of when he's moving
through time flying on a rainbow, very reminiscent of one
Michael Snyder. I happen to know.

Speaker 9 (02:03:41):
Yeah, as we wrap up, I do want to throw
out one TV recommendation, and if you haven't seen this yet,
mister mo Kelly, you have to Pluribus, currently running on
Apple TV, is one of the coolest and most unique
science fiction projects in memory. It comes from the mind
of writer, creator, and showrunner Vince Gilligan, who first came

(02:04:02):
to prominence as a writer and director on The X
Files went on to create and write Breaking Bed and
a spinoff series, Better Call sauls feels like this leap
forward into another realm for Gilligan. On what seems like
a random day in the near future, the people of
the world are suddenly united in an unexpected and morally

(02:04:23):
ambiguous way, except for a very few folks, and one
of the unaffected is Carol, an author of romance novels
who was then forced to confront the consequences of this
massive global change. Carol is played by Rhea Seehorn, who
was a lawyer and Saul's love interest on Better Call Saul.
She is amazing in the demanding role of Carol. It's

(02:04:45):
three episodes into a nine episode run that is already
assured a second season, and I have no idea where
Pluribus is headed, but I am definitely along for the ride.

Speaker 5 (02:04:55):
Again. It's on Apple TV.

Speaker 2 (02:04:57):
Would I be wrong to say that Apple TV pound
for has the best television programming, the best series.

Speaker 9 (02:05:05):
What it has come to that point I think, I mean,
I can't get into depth on it, but down Cemetery Road,
which is based on a Mick Heeran novel, the guy
who created Slow Horses Drinking Running Now it's streaming out.
Oh my god, it's so good. You know, obviously, Ted Lasso,
there are so many wonderful shows that are now available

(02:05:27):
on Apple TV. I would tend to agree. Speaking of
wonderful shows, Just one more quick note as we head out,
I'm in Los Angeles. It's kind of rainy, but tonight
I'm going to try to go to Mark mothers Law's
Mutt Muzz Gallery.

Speaker 5 (02:05:40):
Mark Mother's Law one of the leading lights in Deebo.

Speaker 9 (02:05:42):
He has a very cool gallery in Chinatown, and opening
tonight is a show called Beautiful Mutants. And my friend
Todd Westover as a painting in the show, as do
a couple other people I know. If you're interested in
reading me, I'm at the Voice SF dot org and yes, sir,
I am a contributor to the Mark Thompson Show and
should be back here next Friday with Mark Thompson.

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
And you looked out the best part how you come
and go on a rainbow?

Speaker 5 (02:06:09):
Oh yeah, oh sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
Talk to Mark Snyder. I look, they call this work,
but it's really not worked. I get to talk to
all these wonderful individuals, have these wonderful conversations about politics, movies, uh,
social issues, all these things in between. And that's why
it's great to be not only hosting the Mark Thompson Show,

(02:06:37):
but further part of the Mark Thompson Show. Each and
every Friday. I have to say thank you to Kim mccowister,
who has held my hand and wound me up like
a toy and sent me out there to do the
best I could, filling the shoes of Mark Thompson, who
fingers crossed will be back on Monday from Columbia.

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
Yeah, if he mixed the plane right woo.

Speaker 2 (02:06:58):
Look, you know that's the ongoing impact of the shutdown.
We are not back to normal as of yet, so
safe travels to Mark. I've been seeing some of the
pictures that he's been having way more fun than we
have here in the United States. I will say that
which one you use? Mark Thompson.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
Eric Lisardo with twenty says it's been great having you
host Mark show.

Speaker 5 (02:07:19):
Mo.

Speaker 1 (02:07:19):
Hope you find another permanent home soon.

Speaker 2 (02:07:21):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:07:25):
That people are hoping you come back more often than Friday.
Susan Roberts with ten, Moe, looking forward to having you
come back. Here's a little something toward a Mark Thompson's
show mug see.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
Oh thank you, ay right to.

Speaker 1 (02:07:36):
Get Markmirch dot com. And you've got some cash to
spend it. Vilma says, love you, Mode. Don't always agree
with you, but I love that. Please come back soon.
If this is the last day for the week, indeed
it is, and thank you Vilma for the comment and
the contribution. Much appreciated. Kathy says, why not mention Jim
a is passing to Michael s I think we had

(02:07:57):
talked about it and we were remiss and not mentioning it.
To mention it to Michael Schneider. But I'm glad that Michael,
I mean, Michael sure, but Michael Snider did mention it.
Yeah uh. And then Cindy with the five thank you
for a great week, Mo, Thank you, Sindy, thanks everyone
for the contributions, and yeah, Julette says, thank you, Moe.
We've enjoyed you very much well, Marcus Don and glad

(02:08:18):
to hear you'll be joining us on Fridays. Absolutely mm hmmm,
love it, loved having you know, you're excellent.

Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
Thank you Albert as well for all the help that
you gave us behind the scenes. Thank you Tony Sarantino
for your help during the week, and thank you for watching.
You could have spent your time anywhere with anyone, but
you spent it with us here on the Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 1 (02:08:38):
And coming up on Monday, you know, hopefully.

Speaker 2 (02:08:41):
Mark will be back, but Gary Dietrich will be into
talk politics as well, and I'll be watching and I'll
be listening for the Mark Johnson Show. Bye ba.

Speaker 12 (02:08:53):
Ah bye, god Bye, Brodtins.

Speaker 6 (02:09:19):
Thettting, the Nothing Cotta

Speaker 8 (02:09:51):
At the metam

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