March 27, 2025 • 34 mins
Jamieson and Classy were back and truly excited about the show's first interview, which Emily Girten (Boxing PR & Event Coordinator) was absolutely fantastic in, but some unfortunate technical difficulties prevented us from being able to share it. FORTUNATELY, Emily has agreed to return for episode 13 to discuss the results of her latest event: Del Sol Boxing's Brawl in the Barrio (March 29).
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
In this corner standing it six foot five, weight class
unknown hailing from Sin City, Las Vegas, Jamison Welch and
in this corner standing it five foot nine, Wayne Towns
with six wins.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Three losses, two arrests, four late payments on student loans.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And two total painkruptcies hits the class I'll go home in.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh Man.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
So that was a hell of interview we had. I
learned a lot of things. Whatever it comes to boxing.
I think that there's there's so many unknown items that
you're gonna learn. When ever, these peaches people in the business,
so it was really fascinating. However, you know, I want
to let you break the news on what's in place.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
What's up everybody.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
It's the class the Alcoholic here with the next company podcast.
Usually I start these recordings really really excited, but today
I'll be honest, the little bummed out.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Need a drink to get me through this. Here.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
We just had an amazing interview with a woman named
Emily Gordon who is a boxing promoter pr person. And
let's just say we had some technical difficulties and that
shit is lost to the wind.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's completely gone.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
So it was it was a lot of fun it
was our very first guest on this episode, so I
was super stoked, very for the first guest for our show. Sorry,
and yeah, you know sometimes, you know, here's the thing.
You got to remember something very important when you're doing anything,
whether you were at work, whether you're doing something like this,
it is the concept of shit happens.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
So number the bummed.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
That we lost this, but you know what, we still
got a show for you all that we can do.
And we're gonna talk a little bit about the interview.
So yeah, you know Emily Gordon, she like I said,
she she's in Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
She's a promoter.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
She puts together an event called Brawl in the Brio.
So if you're listening to this when it comes out
this Saturday, March twenty ninth, we there's gonna be an
event in Phoenix showcase with several fighters. They had these
four times a year. I've been to a brow in
the body of before about year year.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
And a half ago.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I had a lot of fun, got a ringside seat
and it was just awesome. It was awesome to see
these fighters live. And there's there's sort of smaller name folks.
You know, they're not big names there pros. But you
know that's put on by Del Soo Boxing Promotions, and
I would encourage y'all to look these events up. Follow
Emily Boxing on Instagram and Twitter, Emily Underscore Boxing on
(02:34):
TikTok because she's really cool and she was gracious enough
to give us an interview that you know.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Like I said, lust the win.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
But we're hoping to have her back and just want
to chat a little bit about what's going on in
the boxing world, in the news, and maybe about what
we learned in the interview. So it's kind of like
talking to if you know what, It's kind of like
talking to somebody about what I did when I was
blackout drunk and they're telling me all the things that
I did that I don't remember. It's kind of the
(03:01):
same thing you guys blacked out during the interview, So
we're going to share a little bit about what happened. So, jameson,
what things do you take away from the interview from
the conversation with Emily that were really interesting to you
That when.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You promote boxing and you're in the boxing business, you
got to expect unexpected.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
There's never gonna be a dull moment.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You got to always have your guard up, and that
you're dealing with so many people that come from all
different walks of life.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's not a nine to five job.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It is also not a job that you can really
have like a indeed application for you kind of have
to get in the industry, learn the industry, and then
go from there. So it was very fascinating to hear
how she got her start and how she does her
business and the types of people she comes across.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, what I really.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Like is learning behind the scenes stuff. So she was
able to tell us some cool stories about working with
fighters and how they prepare. You know, I've always wondered,
you know, what's the hardest thing about getting into a fight?
Preparing for a fight. You know, because I've done boxing lessons.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I've ben sparring, never been that good.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I was pretty fit, you know for a while there
very lean, doing a lot of weightlifting, and you know,
it's really hard to train for boxing. Even it was
just for fun, like I was doing it. You know,
I was not trying to be professional or anything like that.
But you got to have good cardio. You got to
be strong, you have to be flexible, you know, you
got to work out head to tell people think you're
a fighter. You know, you just got to be able
(04:30):
to punch really hard. You have to have good footwork,
your legs have to be in good shape, and very
importantly what Emily said, it was most importantly is diet.
You know, she said that balance between life and diet
and getting yourself ready.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
It's really hard. And it's hard to be.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
A fighter because you know, some people have to feed
their families. You know, they have kids. It's hard to
find childcare, all that stuff. It's hard to find time
to get to the gym. I was doing it like
when things started opening up after I don't want to
say after the because technically never ended, but you know,
when things were opening back up, there was a lot
(05:05):
of free time to just do shit like that. So
but yeah, you know, it was really insightful to hear
from somebody that works with actual fighters, professional fighters who
you have to get into a ring and they have
a record, you know, they this goes on their actual
record means barring and getting my ass kicked on a
Saturday and a gym. You know, nobody has to know
about that, in fact that I want to talk about it,
(05:28):
but it's it's really, it's real hard work for these
fighters to get in there, and that's why that's why
I love the sport.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That's why I admire fighters.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Another thing that I was surprised by. I asked her,
you know, did you ever see something And it's a
question for you, Jameson, have you ever seen anything in
a fighter when they're walking up to the ring that
makes you think a man doesn't have it, he is
going to lose this fight. He is not on point.
You know, whether it's like confidence or physique. Have you
ever seen a fight where you think this guy, for
(05:56):
whatever reason, just is going to lose.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Tonight when they got too many people around them, too
many non boxing people around. So I'm a big component
of whoever's in your camp is in your camp.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Don't be having these extra people who.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Don't mean nothing come during the ring walk with you,
who ain't a part of the boxing. Like when when
it comes to the business part, let the business people
be there with you, your cut me, your trainer, whomever's involved
on them on the boxing side, those are going to
be the only people involved. Only I'm not involved with
all the hanger ons and everything else. Because the infamous
(06:31):
Adrian Brownerclip when he fought Maydonna and came out with
eleven twelve people and he ended up walking back lumped
up with one person. That was the all. That's total lot,
and that happens a whole lot. And I'll put it
this way. A lot of boxers have financial problems because
of the people that they have in a corner. And
(06:52):
that's not even race or of anything specific. That's just
a thing in general. You gotta be smart with how
you handle the fight, prep the fight, day, the fight,
and everything has to be done right because if not,
if you lose focus, if you don't do something right,
it can cost because the end of the day, the
(07:13):
main things that happens in the ring, like all the
other bullshit, don't matter right all, like the Wilder shipping
he came in and he was being none of that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Shit actually matters.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
We get out the fight and at the end of
the day, if things are taking you off your focus
for a fight, that's when it's like, hey man, keep
the main thing, the main thing. I think a lot
of boxers get caught up with the extras too much
instead of the actual fight itself.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, definitely. I mean, does a lot of really good insight.
And I was listening, but in my head, all I
was thinking was, don't bring Eminem on a ringwalk. But
Crawford seven sucks.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's personal situation.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But you know, I mean it worked out for him
because you know that was I mean, but has been
I mean, but it's always been a really great fighter,
and you know that's never been in doubt. But I mean,
it worked out, And I was all she wrote for
one guy. You know, one guy has not been the same.
We haven't seen him in the ring since, so so yeah, sure, And.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm not trying to discuss anything you're saying. I just
couldn't help but get in some slip in some hate
for Eminem But yeah, no, I mean, you know, but
the Onto Watch thing, the Hollywood ontourage thing, has always
been a thing for a long time. You know, there's
a people tell stories about, oh, these celebrities, Adam Sandler
walks in with ten guys for whatever reason, he has
a whole posse. People on SNL have said that before,
(08:33):
and I'm like, why, Like, who the hell is who
the hell does the Sandman hanging around and boxers. I'm
a little bit more understanding because like, yeah, you have trainers,
you said, cutman, you got I don't know, guy who
holds the pads. Boxers have a really big team, even
though it's just one person in the ring at a time.
But yeah, I don't know, it's people get high on
their own supply. And uh yeah, but you say focus
(08:55):
on what happens in the ring and leave everything out.
That's just a whole like that's an ongoing story that
we can talk about over and over again for fighters
who just don't have the focus. So but yeah, no,
And like I said, it's really interesting talking to somebody
that actually works with fighters, tries to match up fighters.
We asked her what it's like to try to find
people to participate in events. She even said, like jokingly
(09:18):
but joking, but not joking, it's the worst job in
the world trying to find people to fight. It was
really interesting. She said, there's not a lot of guys
out there fighting since COVID.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Which is really interesting.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I mean, did they die, Therona, did they get fat
because they were staying at home?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I don't know that part.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But also getting people there on time and in a
safe manner. Right, So if you've got eight fights, that's
sixteen humans you got to count on to get there safely,
get there prepared, and remember, at the end of the day,
we're all people, so if as people, people make mistakes.
People don't all have it going the right way all
the time. So getting people on track is very underrated.
(09:56):
As boxing fans, we don't think about that shit. We
just think about all why the may car comes on
I six and there's three fights until the main event.
That's all we care about. The promoter's got a class
fighting at two pm because they they thrown a whole car,
and God deal with everybody's agencies and camps and the
whole nine and even one little misstep can become a
(10:19):
whole big thing.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So I totally understand which she's coming from.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Hey, you're talking to guys on a show that just
did an awesome interview and lost the recording, So you know,
shit even happens to us. You think like, oh, it's easy.
You just get two guys in front of a mic
with one idiot in a mask. He'll just about whatever
is off the top of his head. Easy, pasy, right,
you know, I guess I guess. The lesson here is
there's a lot going on behind the scenes that we
don't know about.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
So yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Especially for a professional sport. And the thing I love
about boxing is what I've always said it, there's like
just two people in a ring.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
There's no teams. There's no like, you know, two different
teams they each and have their own players. Blah blah blah.
There's so many people involved. You got the football coach
is also the defense coach, et cetera, et cetera. I
like the simplicity of boxing, but at the end of
the day, behind the scenes, it's not simple at all.
You know, this is this isn't very different from all
those other sports. There's a lot of people to make
these fights happen, and you know, shout out to them,
(11:14):
Shout out to people like Emily, shout out to to
all those fighters who agree to get into into the
ring and uh, you know, put their assets on the line.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And there's no way HR in boxing, Like you can't
go to HR if you got a complaint, Like it's
kind of it's kind of like I don't want to
at the drug game because that's not fair.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
But there's like no rules in a.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Sense, you know what I mean, Like there's no you
can't report someone to the Better Business Bureau like you know,
I mean, there's just nothing. There's no checks and balances.
So if you've got a problem, smind you just don't
work with that company in person.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
No more.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, we could touch shit on on social media. You
can talk shit on interviews. People do that all the time.
You know, people say like, yeah, whatever gold the boys sucked.
I never you know, fuck Oscarillo, yeah, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
You know, they could do that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But that's it though.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
There's nothing really nothing else, So it's it's kind of
an interesting thing when you look back at it. But
also I think about like this, when you look at
the grand scheme of things. You Once you're in the industry,
you know and talk to everybody, so word gets around quickly,
whether you're good to do business with, bad to do
business with, et cetera, et cetera. When it comes to boxing,
(12:17):
you kind of need everyone on your side to make
things shake, because, like you mentioned, you got an eight
fight of it. Somebody pulls out a week before a
fight or two for a fight. You need to be
able to scare on, make a couple of calls and
get somebody in place. So like those are the things
that are very prominent. But no, it was very fascinating,
especially being a woman in boxing is not the easiest
(12:39):
thing in general, so it was very fascinating, like and
it doesn't he a good job with you know, also
being being human short humilities. She was very very easy
going and you didn't think she was a very important person.
By how she was answered the questions and how she
interacted was you felt that she was just direct one
(13:00):
person doing a regular job.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And that was it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah, you know, apologies Emily for you know, us having
those technical difficulties, you know, except really hope that she
comes back and forgives us and you know, absolves us
of this of this crime that was committed by by technology.
But uh yeah, for those of you all you know,
uh in the in Arizona, in Phoenix especially look up
Brolin the Bodrio, Look up Dey'll Soul boxing on Instagram,
(13:27):
Look up Emily boxing on Instagram. You know it's you
don't think of Arizona as like a boxing center, you know. Uh,
of course everybody thinks Vegas, Jameson you are everybody thinks
in New York. Uh, Saudi Arabia, La definitely. But you know,
we have boxing events a lot of them haven't in Phoenix,
but we have some in Tucson as well, where I'm
at and uh, yeah, and I think what it does,
(13:48):
and I've said this before. I've mentioned there's a lot
of Mexicans in Arizona, and Mexicans love boxing, so I
think that, uh, it's a it's a prime area if
you're a fan looking to get in the sport, said,
look up, they'll sell promotions dot com. You know there's
uh you get tickets to live events that happened four
times a year.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I've been there before.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
There's probably gonna be another one July fourth weekend. So
I'm already looking forward to that team if I can
make a weekend out of it. So if you're there
brawl in the Body in July, you know, look for me.
I'll probably be the only guy in a suit in
the pocket square.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
But these these.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Events are a lot of fun. Live boxing is is great.
And and these events they're not like huge they're adding
giant arenas, you know, they're they're kind of small areas,
so there's no bat seat in the house. It's very
intimate and just it's a great time. So live boxing
is a lot of fun. So we you know, we
still got a show for you all today. So you know,
even though we lost this, we still got some stuff
(14:41):
that we want to talk about. There is some stuff
going on in the boxing world that I wanted to mention,
and I think James and you want to you want
to go through the.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
News stories with me, we can.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We can.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Uh. First thing up in the Boxing Gazette that I
picked up from the new stand Big George farm And
last week passed away at the age of seventy six.
You know, we we've actually talked about George Foreman on
this episode on the show, on episode five, specifically because
we were discussing his biopic, Big George Foreman.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You know Man was a legend. You know, he's a legend.
He was the oldest heavyweight champ in history. He reclaimed
the heavyweight title in nineteen ninety four at the age
of forty six. That's like rounds up to fifty. Basically
one of the most recognizable boxers, even to people who
never watched a single fight. Yeah, you know, I just
I just want to see if you had any thoughts
(15:35):
on the Champ that.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
You know, we've been.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Talking about this guy for decades now. There's not really
much to say other than you know, rip and thanks
for the memories. But Jamison, no, no, what are your what
are your thoughts on losing Big George.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm glad he got his flowers while he was alive.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I'm glad we didn't wait till he passed and then
we started all.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, now he got his flowers while he was alive,
and his legacy's gonna live on for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So good.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's always sucks when we lose somebody, but he lived
a very long life and the latter end was very good,
which is unlike likely for most boxers. So I was
good to see him go out basically on top of
a sense.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, And he's a hometown hero.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
He's from Houston.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
I'm from Houston.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He was born in.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Marshall, Texas, but he grew up in Houston in the
Fifth Ward, so that's where I was from. So, you know,
it's it's interesting to see a fellow Texan out.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
There in the news. You know, even when.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
He retired from boxing for for the first time, when
he took him off to be a pastor.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
He was preaching in Houston.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I never never made it, didn't make it the church
much when I was a kid. I don't know if
you could probably guess that, but but yeah, he was
out there for a long time, you know, preaching before
he decided to make some big comeback. And yeah, we
didn't love that movie that was made about him. It
had some good stuff. I think we probably rated like
two point eight three out of four gloves or something
like that. But it's an amazing story, you know, and
(16:57):
you know we could we couldn't have this show without
mentioning the loss of George Foreman. Also, here's the one
for you.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I think.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Now I'm feeling it the period because I'm thirty nine.
I'm feeling the period where I'm feeling washed because the
big name celebrities and there are people that I actually
knew about from when I was a kid. You know,
there's a period like, you know, I don't know, fifteen
years ago, You're like, oh, this actor died. He was
in some movies in the sixties. He was some granpy
that was in black and white stuff. I'm like, yeah, whatever, okay,
you know that's sad. But I don't give a shit whatever.
(17:29):
But now it's just like, oh, this guy, I know
this guy. Oh I grew up knowing who this guy was.
So this is gonna happen more and more to us.
As you know, obviously eight people can go at any time,
and people can have untimely deaths.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And you know, tell their when they're in their twenties
and thirties.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
But but I think this is gonna be this is
the next phase of our lives.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Jameson.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
We're born in the same year. I think we're gonna
see more and more people passing were like, oh, fuck
that guy, that lady Like I grew up listening to
that music. I grew up you know, watching that guy
on this TV. And it was it was a bit
a bit eye opening.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, nah, man, it is. When you get older, you
realize how fast time goes. You realize where you were
ten years ago, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, and
you realize it doesn't feel as far away as it
did when you were younger. Right when you were younger,
it felt like time went slow. Now it feels like
(18:26):
time flies by, Like you know, we're both about to
be forty soon, and I'm if you had your twenty
year high school reunion yet. But it doesn't feel like
about high school for twenty years, just doesn't. So this
is one of those things. Man, It's very fascinating how
time goes. We are correct, we are losing people that
we actually knew of, we knew about the whole nine.
(18:47):
So it's one of those things, man, where you know,
you's got to hope you be you know, you know,
stay healthy as possible, live life the right way, and do.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
What you can sure.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
And I I never even heard about a high school
reunion happening, insaid, but I wouldn't have gone to that shit.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I'm not going to see those people from high schools.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
But I was funny when I was in Houston. I
was hanging out with my little sister last month, and
she asked me, Hey, do you have any friends here.
I'm like, you mean the people from high school fucked out.
I'm not gonna talk to those people. So that's that
life is long gone. But I understand honestly. Anyway, Let's
see what else is going on in the news. Let's
let's keep flipping through the Boxing Gazette, because this Saturday,
(19:30):
March twenty ninth, We've got a rematch between Mikaela may
Or and Sandy Ryan. They're meeting up since their last
fight in September of twenty twenty four. This one's going
to be in Vegas, Jamison, Are you gonna be able
to attend this fighting person since you're in Vegas?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Unfortunately, I won't be able to go. I do have
a prior engagement. However, I'm very curious how this fight's
in Vegas. This feels like they've been trying to get
boxing out of Vegas. If you looked at the location
of all the big fights recently, whether they've gone overseas
or whether they're back East, it feels like Vegas the
forgotten step child. So it is good to see a
ESPN type fight staying in Vegas for once.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Sure, especially this one. You know this this was a
big deal. And I don't know if you saw the
their first fight in September. I did get to see it,
and so there was drama behind the scenes. I don't
know if you know the story about somebody just threw
like red pain at Sandy Ryan while she was coming
out of her hotel.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Did you hear anything about that?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, So and then you know, they were sniping each
other back and forth, and it actually like nearly a
million people tuned in, which is like one of the biggest,
the biggest audience for women's boxing in like I don't know,
almost twenty years or something like that. So this seems
to have a lot of hype and it's cool to have. Yeah,
like you said, big fights still happening in Vegas, and
for this last the last fight was pretty close, Margins.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
One one judge said it was a draw. MICHAELA.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Mayer won the the women's walterweight championship, and I don't know,
I thought it was really close. That was one of
those controversial events. Another thing we talked to Emily about
was I was always curious as to when there's a
really close fight and there the judges go one way.
They didn't a fighter as the winner, the one who
(21:10):
loses will always say the same thing. You know, I
won that fight, I got robbed, I won, And I
was curious, like behind the scenes, did they ever actually say, like,
you know, I got to say that I want, but
I know that I lost that shit. And she said, yeah,
some people actually they know they know that they didn't
quite stick it. Out and of course, you know, here's
the thing. Have we ever had a guy lose a
close fight and say.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, I fucked up?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
You know, it was I was bad tonight. You know
they usually have to say face and I understand, but
it's really interesting to hear that behind the scenes and
there's no cameras. They might say, yeah, no, we're uh
just didn't have it, and it happens, you know, right,
But yeah, shout out to good.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
No, you're good, You're good.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Yeah, I say shout out to these ladies, you know.
And the last fight was great, by the way. You know,
let's just say, yes, it was close, Margins, but it
was an excellent fight.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Sandy Ryan came out with she got Mikayla Marray with
a ship a little left hooks she got she took
a lot of hooks and but she took him well,
you know, you could tell that they had an effect.
But you know, she she's got a chain on her
and uh, I don't know. At the end of the day,
I was happy with the results, you know, both these ladies. Uh,
(22:22):
let's see, how do I put this nicely? Sandy Ryan,
she's a British and so Mikayla Mary is American, So
for both white ladies, I think I'm I think I'm
team Mayor.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
You know, sorry, sorry, Sandy, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
What, You're a great fighter, but uh, you know, Kayla
Mayor is right next door, so no offense. But hope
Mayor takes out the wind this Saturday as well, so
tune into that on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Oh all right, what.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Else we got?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
And then coming up April fifth, Saturday. This one's interesting
to talk about because Richard Torres Junior, a rising star
of the heavyweight division, is actually headlining for the first time.
Are you familiar with the Richard Torres Studior.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
A little bit, A little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I've seen him fight live.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
I saw him on the card on during the Oscar
Valdez and fight, so he was there. So this guy
went to the Olympics. He's a talented fighter. Okay, Like,
let's put that out there right now. He's he's he's
got skills, he's very fit. Fans gotta say that he's
been propped up by a bunch of fights with tomato cans, you.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Know, is that?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
How about this, let's say this, is that a thing
that happens where you know, some promoters try to make
a name. They kind of put him up against some
easy fights to try to kind of prop up a
rising star that maybe my nutter And is that a
thing that usually.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Happens, That is my question to you.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yes, because this guy just in general, Yeah, of course,
because this is a business and you're always looking to
get the next guy that's marketable.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So if you can set that guy up, that's what
you're going to do.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I mean, there's a lot of people who have money
involved and invested, and when that's the case, you're always
looking to catch lightning in a bottle. So you think
you have that, you're going to prepare life. Then you're
gonna do certain things to you know, put your boxer
in that direction if it's possible. Sometimes we get live
to Sometimes guys may have a good first ten fights
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to get in there with somebody else and things change.
But a lot of times, hey, if it's done correctly,
you get a very marketable god that's fighting two times
a year, making a lot of money for everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So I get it. But it's all business at the
end of the day.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Sure, and you know, I again, I'm not trying to
be a hater against Brichet Torres. You know, I wish
him the best, and Nick said he's got telling him.
But when I saw him fight, I forget the name
of the guy fight, but I forget the name of
the guy that he fought. But it was just that guy,
like it was just a big old guy.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I was like, where are you putting these two dudes
together in this spring? So it wasn't It was very
one side. And I think the referee stopped in like
two or something like that.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
So I don't know this.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
On fifty he's gonna be fighting an Italian fighter named
Guido Vanello, and I don't know anything about Wiedo Vanello,
so I'll put that out there.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Right now, but I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Let's see if Richard Torres actually has the hype, actually
has the skills to become a big name star. And
you know something that we should say right now for
the listeners if you're listening to audio only, we're actually
on using a new streaming service.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
We're recording videos.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
So we're trying to figure out how to do promos
and how to put this up online. I'm still talking
about that, but look up, Richard Torres junior this tours
with his z Look up the picture of him with
the mustache.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
My man looks like he starred in seventies Porner movies.
He really does.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I'm so sorry. Shout out to Richard Torres Junior. All right,
what else we got going on in the news.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
So yeah, Another thing that I really.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Want to talk about that came up in the conversation
with Emily was, like I said, the difficulty in finding fighters.
And also, I never I've always been curious about how
somebody goes from just working out in the gym to
being like an event like this. Forget about ESPN, e HBO,
pay per view, any of thattually just like a live
(26:11):
event where you can, you know, be in a ring
in from an audience. And she's just telling us, you know,
you first you gotta get a trainer. Most importantly, you know,
you gotta find promoter. You gotta go into a commission.
You have to prove your skills in front of a commission,
he said, some people, actually you have to have like
twenty five amateur fights. Some places you just got to
(26:35):
demonstrate your skills. My question for you, she did say,
there's like a thirty five and overleak where some guys
have they have the bucket list league. Let's say you
had the opportunity to get into go to an event,
participate event jamison, you yourself as a fighter against another
guy our age. Would you do that knowing that it's
similar skill set, gave you time to train, would you
(26:56):
ever get into a ring? No?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Man, like, no, you gotta you can't fake boxing. Well,
you can fake a lot of things in life. You
can't fake, but you gotta want to do that. You
cannot utter any sort. It's not safe enough to not
be in there when you're not trying to be in there.
It is not basketball, it's not baseball, This is not
you know, this is none of that shit.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Boxing's boxing. Man, If you're not mentally prepared, you will
get hurt.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And I got bills and shit, so I can't afford
to get hurt the people who depend on me. I
make a lot of shit shape for a lot of people,
a lot of household, so I personally cannot get hurt.
I can't get sick. I can't fuck around and be
in boxing and get hurt on some dumb shit. I cannot.
Some people can, but I personally cannot sure.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
And here's the thing, I'm not saying it enough. But
let's say that you know, you had the opportunity to
go to a gym, you found a trainer who is like,
you know, if you want to fight, you know, you
want to get into a forty forty year old fight
with another dude whatever, et cetera, and actually give you
a chance. You know, I'm not saying get into a
ring with you know, too many days you.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Go long in terms of the body, right, so we forty,
When forty, your body is different than when you're twenty.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
If I was twenty, sure I would do it.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
But at forty our bones or plus I've got a
tory rotator cuff right now, television any surgery, so that's
how it's automatical for me. But even if it was
one hundred percent, I still wouldn't do it because our
bodies ain't built for that right now. It's the reason
why we don't see a lot of forty year old boxers.
The bodies ain't built for that. Like here, thing, going
from regular everyday stuff the boxing training will take your
(28:33):
boy to adjust. But going from boxing training actual boxing
is a whole different thing. And I don't think that
shocked to our bodies is safe.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I mean when when Emily said thirty five in up League,
I'll be honest, like, I was like, great, really they
do that? I guess I wonder is it like a
gentleman's agreement, Like, look, we're both almost forty here, Like,
we're not gonna try to kill each other. We're gonna
have fun, We're getting the ring, we're gonna fight. It's
gonna be a good match. But I'm not gonna try
to knock you out. Don't try to knock me out.
I was just curious about what what what would that
(29:05):
would be like because I mean there, but also to
be fair, there's a lot of dudes out there who
are like, I still got it. Some forty you know something,
you were guys like, yeah, yeah, I still got it.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I go to the gym twice a week.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I could do this. I could.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
So Yeah, No, I would love to talk to somebody
who does that thirty five enough.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
We should probably get them.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
On the show and you know, not lose the recording
and talk to me like what made you want to
get up here in the ring being passed thirty five.
Not that that's old by any means, but that is
old a ship for a boxer, I'm sorry, it is.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
It is old as shit to.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Be I'm cool.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
With all the respect to those that type that were
just pay God bless you, but I'm cool.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Well, I uh, I took some time away from from
sparring just to to focus on to go back to
my roots and focus on getting fat again.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
But you know, reconnect with the old me.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
But but you know I did talking about this and
having the conversation with them.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I do miss it. I miss it.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
So you know, I'm gonna have to get my schedule
right and get my uh get my fitness right, and
maybe head back there for a couple of lessons.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Nothing crazy, because yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Even just from like whatever and whenever I started five
years ago, the knees aren't the same, fucking shoulders aren't
the same. So and it's it's something that you have
to be physically fit from head to.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Toe, like literally I never knew how difficult that was.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
So, like I said before, just so much respect for.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
For anybody who decides to get into ring.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
So a no thing that we usually do as a
pop pugilism segment. Usually we'll discuss all pick a movie
or TV show to talk about this one we not, okay,
not this one, we will for today, we asked Emily
her favorite boxing movie and she said, well, she considers
the movie Snatch, which is funny because I.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Just rewatched it. Have you seen Snatch? Jameson not off Top?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
No, Yeah, it's a guy ritchie movie. It's it's a
it's a British movie. It's Jason Statham, Stephen Graham, Brad
Pitt playing like a romani character. He's doing an accent
you can't really understand.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
And a big, big.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Part of that movie is a boy a boxing tournament,
like a bare knuckle boxing event.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Like that's a big through line.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
It is a comedy. It's a crime comedy. There's like
silly capers. I will say it does have some of that,
like Tarantino want to be asked, like two cool snappy
snap snap dialogue. The movies that we got you know
for a while, you know, you're know what I'm talking about.
Like a lot of these movies just tried to be
tried to be Tarantino. You know, Snatch came out in
(31:37):
two thousands, so it's out of time, but just a
personal recommendation. It does hold up. Like I said, it
was just like two weeks ago that I watched it.
I was having fun. The jokes landed, the fight scenes
were pretty cool, and Ali Ron just saw you.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
If you haven't watched.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
It, if you're I don't know, if you're a Guy
Richie fan at all, have you seen it? I think
like that, that's that's my favorite movie of his, and
that's pretty much like the one I would recommend.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And then he did Lockstock in Two Smoking Barrels like
a few years before, but it's like the shittier version
of Snatch.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
It's like he did the the trial run that then
he perfected in the Snatch. So I was like, all right,
well I don't need that first one. I have this
movie here, so but yeah, I'm glad that you brought
it up because it's it's a fun movie. I remember
when I was a teenager, I watched that first Transporter
movie with Statham and I hate it that I was.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
It was terrible, it was awful.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
And then I put on Snatch and I'm like, oh,
Stathum is actually cool, Like all right, all right, Stathum
you're you're good. So yeah, just just a quick to.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Round out the show.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Quick recommendation from two thousand Snatch, directed by Guy Richie.
If you haven't seen it in a long time, it
does hold up. So I was a little nervous about,
you know, fifteen years on how it to hold up,
but it was fun, so definitely check it out. All right,
that's that's gonna be the show for today. Sorry about
all the technical difficulties that I mentioned earlier, and you know,
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really hopeing have Emily back and get some some more
time with her because it was a lot of fun.
And please if you are in the Phoenix area or
anywhere in Arizona and you like boxing, please look up
browl in the barrio. That's Delsoboxing Promotions dot com. Follow
del Soo Boxing on Instagram, Follow Emily Boxing on Instagram, Twitter,
(33:29):
Emily Underscore Boxing on TikTok, and if you can make
it out to this event, you can buy tickets online.
It's a lot of fun and really hope to see
you there. So Jamison, where can people find you on
social media?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
At Twitter at v Jamison. That's the best way to
find me and we communicate. Chopping up all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
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salute
In this corner standing it six foot five, weight class
unknown hailing from Sin City, Las Vegas, Jamison Welch and
in this corner standing it five foot nine, Wayne Towns
with six wins.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Three losses, two arrests, four late payments on student loans.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And two total painkruptcies hits the class I'll go home in.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh Man.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
So that was a hell of interview we had. I
learned a lot of things. Whatever it comes to boxing.
I think that there's there's so many unknown items that
you're gonna learn. When ever, these peaches people in the business,
so it was really fascinating. However, you know, I want
to let you break the news on what's in place.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
What's up everybody.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
It's the class the Alcoholic here with the next company podcast.
Usually I start these recordings really really excited, but today
I'll be honest, the little bummed out.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Need a drink to get me through this. Here.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
We just had an amazing interview with a woman named
Emily Gordon who is a boxing promoter pr person. And
let's just say we had some technical difficulties and that
shit is lost to the wind.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's completely gone.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
So it was it was a lot of fun it
was our very first guest on this episode, so I
was super stoked, very for the first guest for our show. Sorry,
and yeah, you know sometimes, you know, here's the thing.
You got to remember something very important when you're doing anything,
whether you were at work, whether you're doing something like this,
it is the concept of shit happens.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
So number the bummed.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
That we lost this, but you know what, we still
got a show for you all that we can do.
And we're gonna talk a little bit about the interview.
So yeah, you know Emily Gordon, she like I said,
she she's in Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
She's a promoter.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
She puts together an event called Brawl in the Brio.
So if you're listening to this when it comes out
this Saturday, March twenty ninth, we there's gonna be an
event in Phoenix showcase with several fighters. They had these
four times a year. I've been to a brow in
the body of before about year year.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
And a half ago.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I had a lot of fun, got a ringside seat
and it was just awesome. It was awesome to see
these fighters live. And there's there's sort of smaller name folks.
You know, they're not big names there pros. But you
know that's put on by Del Soo Boxing Promotions, and
I would encourage y'all to look these events up. Follow
Emily Boxing on Instagram and Twitter, Emily Underscore Boxing on
(02:34):
TikTok because she's really cool and she was gracious enough
to give us an interview that you know.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Like I said, lust the win.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
But we're hoping to have her back and just want
to chat a little bit about what's going on in
the boxing world, in the news, and maybe about what
we learned in the interview. So it's kind of like
talking to if you know what, It's kind of like
talking to somebody about what I did when I was
blackout drunk and they're telling me all the things that
I did that I don't remember. It's kind of the
(03:01):
same thing you guys blacked out during the interview, So
we're going to share a little bit about what happened. So, jameson,
what things do you take away from the interview from
the conversation with Emily that were really interesting to you
That when.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You promote boxing and you're in the boxing business, you
got to expect unexpected.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
There's never gonna be a dull moment.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You got to always have your guard up, and that
you're dealing with so many people that come from all
different walks of life.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's not a nine to five job.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It is also not a job that you can really
have like a indeed application for you kind of have
to get in the industry, learn the industry, and then
go from there. So it was very fascinating to hear
how she got her start and how she does her
business and the types of people she comes across.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, what I really.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Like is learning behind the scenes stuff. So she was
able to tell us some cool stories about working with
fighters and how they prepare. You know, I've always wondered,
you know, what's the hardest thing about getting into a fight?
Preparing for a fight. You know, because I've done boxing lessons.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I've ben sparring, never been that good.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I was pretty fit, you know for a while there
very lean, doing a lot of weightlifting, and you know,
it's really hard to train for boxing. Even it was
just for fun, like I was doing it. You know,
I was not trying to be professional or anything like that.
But you got to have good cardio. You got to
be strong, you have to be flexible, you know, you
got to work out head to tell people think you're
a fighter. You know, you just got to be able
(04:30):
to punch really hard. You have to have good footwork,
your legs have to be in good shape, and very
importantly what Emily said, it was most importantly is diet.
You know, she said that balance between life and diet
and getting yourself ready.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
It's really hard. And it's hard to be.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
A fighter because you know, some people have to feed
their families. You know, they have kids. It's hard to
find childcare, all that stuff. It's hard to find time
to get to the gym. I was doing it like
when things started opening up after I don't want to
say after the because technically never ended, but you know,
when things were opening back up, there was a lot
(05:05):
of free time to just do shit like that. So
but yeah, you know, it was really insightful to hear
from somebody that works with actual fighters, professional fighters who
you have to get into a ring and they have
a record, you know, they this goes on their actual
record means barring and getting my ass kicked on a
Saturday and a gym. You know, nobody has to know
about that, in fact that I want to talk about it,
(05:28):
but it's it's really, it's real hard work for these
fighters to get in there, and that's why that's why
I love the sport.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That's why I admire fighters.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Another thing that I was surprised by. I asked her,
you know, did you ever see something And it's a
question for you, Jameson, have you ever seen anything in
a fighter when they're walking up to the ring that
makes you think a man doesn't have it, he is
going to lose this fight. He is not on point.
You know, whether it's like confidence or physique. Have you
ever seen a fight where you think this guy, for
(05:56):
whatever reason, just is going to lose.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Tonight when they got too many people around them, too
many non boxing people around. So I'm a big component
of whoever's in your camp is in your camp.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Don't be having these extra people who.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Don't mean nothing come during the ring walk with you,
who ain't a part of the boxing. Like when when
it comes to the business part, let the business people
be there with you, your cut me, your trainer, whomever's involved
on them on the boxing side, those are going to
be the only people involved. Only I'm not involved with
all the hanger ons and everything else. Because the infamous
(06:31):
Adrian Brownerclip when he fought Maydonna and came out with
eleven twelve people and he ended up walking back lumped
up with one person. That was the all. That's total lot,
and that happens a whole lot. And I'll put it
this way. A lot of boxers have financial problems because
of the people that they have in a corner. And
(06:52):
that's not even race or of anything specific. That's just
a thing in general. You gotta be smart with how
you handle the fight, prep the fight, day, the fight,
and everything has to be done right because if not,
if you lose focus, if you don't do something right,
it can cost because the end of the day, the
(07:13):
main things that happens in the ring, like all the
other bullshit, don't matter right all, like the Wilder shipping
he came in and he was being none of that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Shit actually matters.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
We get out the fight and at the end of
the day, if things are taking you off your focus
for a fight, that's when it's like, hey man, keep
the main thing, the main thing. I think a lot
of boxers get caught up with the extras too much
instead of the actual fight itself.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, definitely. I mean, does a lot of really good insight.
And I was listening, but in my head, all I
was thinking was, don't bring Eminem on a ringwalk. But
Crawford seven sucks.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's personal situation.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But you know, I mean it worked out for him
because you know that was I mean, but has been
I mean, but it's always been a really great fighter,
and you know that's never been in doubt. But I mean,
it worked out, And I was all she wrote for
one guy. You know, one guy has not been the same.
We haven't seen him in the ring since, so so yeah, sure, And.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm not trying to discuss anything you're saying. I just
couldn't help but get in some slip in some hate
for Eminem But yeah, no, I mean, you know, but
the Onto Watch thing, the Hollywood ontourage thing, has always
been a thing for a long time. You know, there's
a people tell stories about, oh, these celebrities, Adam Sandler
walks in with ten guys for whatever reason, he has
a whole posse. People on SNL have said that before,
(08:33):
and I'm like, why, Like, who the hell is who
the hell does the Sandman hanging around and boxers. I'm
a little bit more understanding because like, yeah, you have trainers,
you said, cutman, you got I don't know, guy who
holds the pads. Boxers have a really big team, even
though it's just one person in the ring at a time.
But yeah, I don't know, it's people get high on
their own supply. And uh yeah, but you say focus
(08:55):
on what happens in the ring and leave everything out.
That's just a whole like that's an ongoing story that
we can talk about over and over again for fighters
who just don't have the focus. So but yeah, no,
And like I said, it's really interesting talking to somebody
that actually works with fighters, tries to match up fighters.
We asked her what it's like to try to find
people to participate in events. She even said, like jokingly
(09:18):
but joking, but not joking, it's the worst job in
the world trying to find people to fight. It was
really interesting. She said, there's not a lot of guys
out there fighting since COVID.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Which is really interesting.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I mean, did they die, Therona, did they get fat
because they were staying at home?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I don't know that part.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But also getting people there on time and in a
safe manner. Right, So if you've got eight fights, that's
sixteen humans you got to count on to get there safely,
get there prepared, and remember, at the end of the day,
we're all people, so if as people, people make mistakes.
People don't all have it going the right way all
the time. So getting people on track is very underrated.
(09:56):
As boxing fans, we don't think about that shit. We
just think about all why the may car comes on
I six and there's three fights until the main event.
That's all we care about. The promoter's got a class
fighting at two pm because they they thrown a whole car,
and God deal with everybody's agencies and camps and the
whole nine and even one little misstep can become a
(10:19):
whole big thing.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So I totally understand which she's coming from.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Hey, you're talking to guys on a show that just
did an awesome interview and lost the recording, So you know,
shit even happens to us. You think like, oh, it's easy.
You just get two guys in front of a mic
with one idiot in a mask. He'll just about whatever
is off the top of his head. Easy, pasy, right,
you know, I guess I guess. The lesson here is
there's a lot going on behind the scenes that we
don't know about.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
So yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Especially for a professional sport. And the thing I love
about boxing is what I've always said it, there's like
just two people in a ring.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
There's no teams. There's no like, you know, two different
teams they each and have their own players. Blah blah blah.
There's so many people involved. You got the football coach
is also the defense coach, et cetera, et cetera. I
like the simplicity of boxing, but at the end of
the day, behind the scenes, it's not simple at all.
You know, this is this isn't very different from all
those other sports. There's a lot of people to make
these fights happen, and you know, shout out to them,
(11:14):
Shout out to people like Emily, shout out to to
all those fighters who agree to get into into the
ring and uh, you know, put their assets on the line.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And there's no way HR in boxing, Like you can't
go to HR if you got a complaint, Like it's
kind of it's kind of like I don't want to
at the drug game because that's not fair.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
But there's like no rules in a.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Sense, you know what I mean, Like there's no you
can't report someone to the Better Business Bureau like you know,
I mean, there's just nothing. There's no checks and balances.
So if you've got a problem, smind you just don't
work with that company in person.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
No more.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, we could touch shit on on social media. You
can talk shit on interviews. People do that all the time.
You know, people say like, yeah, whatever gold the boys sucked.
I never you know, fuck Oscarillo, yeah, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
You know, they could do that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But that's it though.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
There's nothing really nothing else, So it's it's kind of
an interesting thing when you look back at it. But
also I think about like this, when you look at
the grand scheme of things. You Once you're in the industry,
you know and talk to everybody, so word gets around quickly,
whether you're good to do business with, bad to do
business with, et cetera, et cetera. When it comes to boxing,
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you kind of need everyone on your side to make
things shake, because, like you mentioned, you got an eight
fight of it. Somebody pulls out a week before a
fight or two for a fight. You need to be
able to scare on, make a couple of calls and
get somebody in place. So like those are the things
that are very prominent. But no, it was very fascinating,
especially being a woman in boxing is not the easiest
(12:39):
thing in general, so it was very fascinating, like and
it doesn't he a good job with you know, also
being being human short humilities. She was very very easy
going and you didn't think she was a very important person.
By how she was answered the questions and how she
interacted was you felt that she was just direct one
(13:00):
person doing a regular job.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And that was it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah, you know, apologies Emily for you know, us having
those technical difficulties, you know, except really hope that she
comes back and forgives us and you know, absolves us
of this of this crime that was committed by by technology.
But uh yeah, for those of you all you know,
uh in the in Arizona, in Phoenix especially look up
Brolin the Bodrio, Look up Dey'll Soul boxing on Instagram,
(13:27):
Look up Emily boxing on Instagram. You know it's you
don't think of Arizona as like a boxing center, you know. Uh,
of course everybody thinks Vegas, Jameson you are everybody thinks
in New York. Uh, Saudi Arabia, La definitely. But you know,
we have boxing events a lot of them haven't in Phoenix,
but we have some in Tucson as well, where I'm
at and uh, yeah, and I think what it does,
(13:48):
and I've said this before. I've mentioned there's a lot
of Mexicans in Arizona, and Mexicans love boxing, so I
think that, uh, it's a it's a prime area if
you're a fan looking to get in the sport, said,
look up, they'll sell promotions dot com. You know there's
uh you get tickets to live events that happened four
times a year.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I've been there before.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
There's probably gonna be another one July fourth weekend. So
I'm already looking forward to that team if I can
make a weekend out of it. So if you're there
brawl in the Body in July, you know, look for me.
I'll probably be the only guy in a suit in
the pocket square.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
But these these.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Events are a lot of fun. Live boxing is is great.
And and these events they're not like huge they're adding
giant arenas, you know, they're they're kind of small areas,
so there's no bat seat in the house. It's very
intimate and just it's a great time. So live boxing
is a lot of fun. So we you know, we
still got a show for you all today. So you know,
even though we lost this, we still got some stuff
(14:41):
that we want to talk about. There is some stuff
going on in the boxing world that I wanted to mention,
and I think James and you want to you want
to go through the.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
News stories with me, we can.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We can.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Uh. First thing up in the Boxing Gazette that I
picked up from the new stand Big George farm And
last week passed away at the age of seventy six.
You know, we we've actually talked about George Foreman on
this episode on the show, on episode five, specifically because
we were discussing his biopic, Big George Foreman.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You know Man was a legend. You know, he's a legend.
He was the oldest heavyweight champ in history. He reclaimed
the heavyweight title in nineteen ninety four at the age
of forty six. That's like rounds up to fifty. Basically
one of the most recognizable boxers, even to people who
never watched a single fight. Yeah, you know, I just
I just want to see if you had any thoughts
(15:35):
on the Champ that.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
You know, we've been.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Talking about this guy for decades now. There's not really
much to say other than you know, rip and thanks
for the memories. But Jamison, no, no, what are your what
are your thoughts on losing Big George.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm glad he got his flowers while he was alive.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I'm glad we didn't wait till he passed and then
we started all.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, now he got his flowers while he was alive,
and his legacy's gonna live on for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So good.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's always sucks when we lose somebody, but he lived
a very long life and the latter end was very good,
which is unlike likely for most boxers. So I was
good to see him go out basically on top of
a sense.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, And he's a hometown hero.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
He's from Houston.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
I'm from Houston.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He was born in.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Marshall, Texas, but he grew up in Houston in the
Fifth Ward, so that's where I was from. So, you know,
it's it's interesting to see a fellow Texan out.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
There in the news. You know, even when.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
He retired from boxing for for the first time, when
he took him off to be a pastor.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
He was preaching in Houston.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I never never made it, didn't make it the church
much when I was a kid. I don't know if
you could probably guess that, but but yeah, he was
out there for a long time, you know, preaching before
he decided to make some big comeback. And yeah, we
didn't love that movie that was made about him. It
had some good stuff. I think we probably rated like
two point eight three out of four gloves or something
like that. But it's an amazing story, you know, and
(16:57):
you know we could we couldn't have this show without
mentioning the loss of George Foreman. Also, here's the one
for you.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I think.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Now I'm feeling it the period because I'm thirty nine.
I'm feeling the period where I'm feeling washed because the
big name celebrities and there are people that I actually
knew about from when I was a kid. You know,
there's a period like, you know, I don't know, fifteen
years ago, You're like, oh, this actor died. He was
in some movies in the sixties. He was some granpy
that was in black and white stuff. I'm like, yeah, whatever, okay,
you know that's sad. But I don't give a shit whatever.
(17:29):
But now it's just like, oh, this guy, I know
this guy. Oh I grew up knowing who this guy was.
So this is gonna happen more and more to us.
As you know, obviously eight people can go at any time,
and people can have untimely deaths.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And you know, tell their when they're in their twenties
and thirties.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
But but I think this is gonna be this is
the next phase of our lives.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Jameson.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
We're born in the same year. I think we're gonna
see more and more people passing were like, oh, fuck
that guy, that lady Like I grew up listening to
that music. I grew up you know, watching that guy
on this TV. And it was it was a bit
a bit eye opening.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, nah, man, it is. When you get older, you
realize how fast time goes. You realize where you were
ten years ago, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, and
you realize it doesn't feel as far away as it
did when you were younger. Right when you were younger,
it felt like time went slow. Now it feels like
(18:26):
time flies by, Like you know, we're both about to
be forty soon, and I'm if you had your twenty
year high school reunion yet. But it doesn't feel like
about high school for twenty years, just doesn't. So this
is one of those things. Man, It's very fascinating how
time goes. We are correct, we are losing people that
we actually knew of, we knew about the whole nine.
(18:47):
So it's one of those things, man, where you know,
you's got to hope you be you know, you know,
stay healthy as possible, live life the right way, and do.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
What you can sure.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
And I I never even heard about a high school
reunion happening, insaid, but I wouldn't have gone to that shit.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I'm not going to see those people from high schools.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
But I was funny when I was in Houston. I
was hanging out with my little sister last month, and
she asked me, Hey, do you have any friends here.
I'm like, you mean the people from high school fucked out.
I'm not gonna talk to those people. So that's that
life is long gone. But I understand honestly. Anyway, Let's
see what else is going on in the news. Let's
let's keep flipping through the Boxing Gazette, because this Saturday,
(19:30):
March twenty ninth, We've got a rematch between Mikaela may
Or and Sandy Ryan. They're meeting up since their last
fight in September of twenty twenty four. This one's going
to be in Vegas, Jamison, Are you gonna be able
to attend this fighting person since you're in Vegas?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Unfortunately, I won't be able to go. I do have
a prior engagement. However, I'm very curious how this fight's
in Vegas. This feels like they've been trying to get
boxing out of Vegas. If you looked at the location
of all the big fights recently, whether they've gone overseas
or whether they're back East, it feels like Vegas the
forgotten step child. So it is good to see a
ESPN type fight staying in Vegas for once.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Sure, especially this one. You know this this was a
big deal. And I don't know if you saw the
their first fight in September. I did get to see it,
and so there was drama behind the scenes. I don't
know if you know the story about somebody just threw
like red pain at Sandy Ryan while she was coming
out of her hotel.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Did you hear anything about that?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, So and then you know, they were sniping each
other back and forth, and it actually like nearly a
million people tuned in, which is like one of the biggest,
the biggest audience for women's boxing in like I don't know,
almost twenty years or something like that. So this seems
to have a lot of hype and it's cool to have. Yeah,
like you said, big fights still happening in Vegas, and
for this last the last fight was pretty close, Margins.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
One one judge said it was a draw. MICHAELA.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Mayer won the the women's walterweight championship, and I don't know,
I thought it was really close. That was one of
those controversial events. Another thing we talked to Emily about
was I was always curious as to when there's a
really close fight and there the judges go one way.
They didn't a fighter as the winner, the one who
(21:10):
loses will always say the same thing. You know, I
won that fight, I got robbed, I won, And I
was curious, like behind the scenes, did they ever actually say, like,
you know, I got to say that I want, but
I know that I lost that shit. And she said, yeah,
some people actually they know they know that they didn't
quite stick it. Out and of course, you know, here's
the thing. Have we ever had a guy lose a
close fight and say.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, I fucked up?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
You know, it was I was bad tonight. You know
they usually have to say face and I understand, but
it's really interesting to hear that behind the scenes and
there's no cameras. They might say, yeah, no, we're uh
just didn't have it, and it happens, you know, right,
But yeah, shout out to good.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
No, you're good, You're good.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Yeah, I say shout out to these ladies, you know.
And the last fight was great, by the way. You know,
let's just say, yes, it was close, Margins, but it
was an excellent fight.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Sandy Ryan came out with she got Mikayla Marray with
a ship a little left hooks she got she took
a lot of hooks and but she took him well,
you know, you could tell that they had an effect.
But you know, she she's got a chain on her
and uh, I don't know. At the end of the day,
I was happy with the results, you know, both these ladies. Uh,
(22:22):
let's see, how do I put this nicely? Sandy Ryan,
she's a British and so Mikayla Mary is American, So
for both white ladies, I think I'm I think I'm
team Mayor.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
You know, sorry, sorry, Sandy, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
What, You're a great fighter, but uh, you know, Kayla
Mayor is right next door, so no offense. But hope
Mayor takes out the wind this Saturday as well, so
tune into that on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Oh all right, what.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Else we got?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
And then coming up April fifth, Saturday. This one's interesting
to talk about because Richard Torres Junior, a rising star
of the heavyweight division, is actually headlining for the first time.
Are you familiar with the Richard Torres Studior.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
A little bit, A little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I've seen him fight live.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
I saw him on the card on during the Oscar
Valdez and fight, so he was there. So this guy
went to the Olympics. He's a talented fighter. Okay, Like,
let's put that out there right now. He's he's he's
got skills, he's very fit. Fans gotta say that he's
been propped up by a bunch of fights with tomato cans, you.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Know, is that?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
How about this, let's say this, is that a thing
that happens where you know, some promoters try to make
a name. They kind of put him up against some
easy fights to try to kind of prop up a
rising star that maybe my nutter And is that a
thing that usually.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Happens, That is my question to you.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yes, because this guy just in general, Yeah, of course,
because this is a business and you're always looking to
get the next guy that's marketable.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So if you can set that guy up, that's what
you're going to do.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I mean, there's a lot of people who have money
involved and invested, and when that's the case, you're always
looking to catch lightning in a bottle. So you think
you have that, you're going to prepare life. Then you're
gonna do certain things to you know, put your boxer
in that direction if it's possible. Sometimes we get live
to Sometimes guys may have a good first ten fights
(24:17):
to get in there with somebody else and things change.
But a lot of times, hey, if it's done correctly,
you get a very marketable god that's fighting two times
a year, making a lot of money for everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So I get it. But it's all business at the
end of the day.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Sure, and you know, I again, I'm not trying to
be a hater against Brichet Torres. You know, I wish
him the best, and Nick said he's got telling him.
But when I saw him fight, I forget the name
of the guy fight, but I forget the name of
the guy that he fought. But it was just that guy,
like it was just a big old guy.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I was like, where are you putting these two dudes
together in this spring? So it wasn't It was very
one side. And I think the referee stopped in like
two or something like that.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
So I don't know this.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
On fifty he's gonna be fighting an Italian fighter named
Guido Vanello, and I don't know anything about Wiedo Vanello,
so I'll put that out there.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Right now, but I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Let's see if Richard Torres actually has the hype, actually
has the skills to become a big name star. And
you know something that we should say right now for
the listeners if you're listening to audio only, we're actually
on using a new streaming service.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
We're recording videos.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
So we're trying to figure out how to do promos
and how to put this up online. I'm still talking
about that, but look up, Richard Torres junior this tours
with his z Look up the picture of him with
the mustache.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
My man looks like he starred in seventies Porner movies.
He really does.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I'm so sorry. Shout out to Richard Torres Junior. All right,
what else we got going on in the news.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
So yeah, Another thing that I really.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Want to talk about that came up in the conversation
with Emily was, like I said, the difficulty in finding fighters.
And also, I never I've always been curious about how
somebody goes from just working out in the gym to
being like an event like this. Forget about ESPN, e HBO,
pay per view, any of thattually just like a live
(26:11):
event where you can, you know, be in a ring
in from an audience. And she's just telling us, you know,
you first you gotta get a trainer. Most importantly, you know,
you gotta find promoter. You gotta go into a commission.
You have to prove your skills in front of a commission,
he said, some people, actually you have to have like
twenty five amateur fights. Some places you just got to
(26:35):
demonstrate your skills. My question for you, she did say,
there's like a thirty five and overleak where some guys
have they have the bucket list league. Let's say you
had the opportunity to get into go to an event,
participate event jamison, you yourself as a fighter against another
guy our age. Would you do that knowing that it's
similar skill set, gave you time to train, would you
(26:56):
ever get into a ring? No?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Man, like, no, you gotta you can't fake boxing. Well,
you can fake a lot of things in life. You
can't fake, but you gotta want to do that. You
cannot utter any sort. It's not safe enough to not
be in there when you're not trying to be in there.
It is not basketball, it's not baseball, This is not
you know, this is none of that shit.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Boxing's boxing. Man, If you're not mentally prepared, you will
get hurt.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And I got bills and shit, so I can't afford
to get hurt the people who depend on me. I
make a lot of shit shape for a lot of people,
a lot of household, so I personally cannot get hurt.
I can't get sick. I can't fuck around and be
in boxing and get hurt on some dumb shit. I cannot.
Some people can, but I personally cannot sure.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
And here's the thing, I'm not saying it enough. But
let's say that you know, you had the opportunity to
go to a gym, you found a trainer who is like,
you know, if you want to fight, you know, you
want to get into a forty forty year old fight
with another dude whatever, et cetera, and actually give you
a chance. You know, I'm not saying get into a
ring with you know, too many days you.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Go long in terms of the body, right, so we forty,
When forty, your body is different than when you're twenty.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
If I was twenty, sure I would do it.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
But at forty our bones or plus I've got a
tory rotator cuff right now, television any surgery, so that's
how it's automatical for me. But even if it was
one hundred percent, I still wouldn't do it because our
bodies ain't built for that right now. It's the reason
why we don't see a lot of forty year old boxers.
The bodies ain't built for that. Like here, thing, going
from regular everyday stuff the boxing training will take your
(28:33):
boy to adjust. But going from boxing training actual boxing
is a whole different thing. And I don't think that
shocked to our bodies is safe.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I mean when when Emily said thirty five in up League,
I'll be honest, like, I was like, great, really they
do that? I guess I wonder is it like a
gentleman's agreement, Like, look, we're both almost forty here, Like,
we're not gonna try to kill each other. We're gonna
have fun, We're getting the ring, we're gonna fight. It's
gonna be a good match. But I'm not gonna try
to knock you out. Don't try to knock me out.
I was just curious about what what what would that
(29:05):
would be like because I mean there, but also to
be fair, there's a lot of dudes out there who
are like, I still got it. Some forty you know something,
you were guys like, yeah, yeah, I still got it.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I go to the gym twice a week.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I could do this. I could.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
So Yeah, No, I would love to talk to somebody
who does that thirty five enough.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
We should probably get them.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
On the show and you know, not lose the recording
and talk to me like what made you want to
get up here in the ring being passed thirty five.
Not that that's old by any means, but that is
old a ship for a boxer, I'm sorry, it is.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
It is old as shit to.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Be I'm cool.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
With all the respect to those that type that were
just pay God bless you, but I'm cool.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Well, I uh, I took some time away from from
sparring just to to focus on to go back to
my roots and focus on getting fat again.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
But you know, reconnect with the old me.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
But but you know I did talking about this and
having the conversation with them.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I do miss it. I miss it.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
So you know, I'm gonna have to get my schedule
right and get my uh get my fitness right, and
maybe head back there for a couple of lessons.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Nothing crazy, because yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Even just from like whatever and whenever I started five
years ago, the knees aren't the same, fucking shoulders aren't
the same. So and it's it's something that you have
to be physically fit from head to.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Toe, like literally I never knew how difficult that was.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
So, like I said before, just so much respect for.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
For anybody who decides to get into ring.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
So a no thing that we usually do as a
pop pugilism segment. Usually we'll discuss all pick a movie
or TV show to talk about this one we not, okay,
not this one, we will for today, we asked Emily
her favorite boxing movie and she said, well, she considers
the movie Snatch, which is funny because I.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Just rewatched it. Have you seen Snatch? Jameson not off Top?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
No, Yeah, it's a guy ritchie movie. It's it's a
it's a British movie. It's Jason Statham, Stephen Graham, Brad
Pitt playing like a romani character. He's doing an accent
you can't really understand.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
And a big, big.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Part of that movie is a boy a boxing tournament,
like a bare knuckle boxing event.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Like that's a big through line.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
It is a comedy. It's a crime comedy. There's like
silly capers. I will say it does have some of that,
like Tarantino want to be asked, like two cool snappy
snap snap dialogue. The movies that we got you know
for a while, you know, you're know what I'm talking about.
Like a lot of these movies just tried to be
tried to be Tarantino. You know, Snatch came out in
(31:37):
two thousands, so it's out of time, but just a
personal recommendation. It does hold up. Like I said, it
was just like two weeks ago that I watched it.
I was having fun. The jokes landed, the fight scenes
were pretty cool, and Ali Ron just saw you.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
If you haven't watched.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
It, if you're I don't know, if you're a Guy
Richie fan at all, have you seen it? I think
like that, that's that's my favorite movie of his, and
that's pretty much like the one I would recommend.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And then he did Lockstock in Two Smoking Barrels like
a few years before, but it's like the shittier version
of Snatch.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
It's like he did the the trial run that then
he perfected in the Snatch. So I was like, all right,
well I don't need that first one. I have this
movie here, so but yeah, I'm glad that you brought
it up because it's it's a fun movie. I remember
when I was a teenager, I watched that first Transporter
movie with Statham and I hate it that I was.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
It was terrible, it was awful.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
And then I put on Snatch and I'm like, oh,
Stathum is actually cool, Like all right, all right, Stathum
you're you're good. So yeah, just just a quick to.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Round out the show.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Quick recommendation from two thousand Snatch, directed by Guy Richie.
If you haven't seen it in a long time, it
does hold up. So I was a little nervous about,
you know, fifteen years on how it to hold up,
but it was fun, so definitely check it out. All right,
that's that's gonna be the show for today. Sorry about
all the technical difficulties that I mentioned earlier, and you know,
(33:07):
really hopeing have Emily back and get some some more
time with her because it was a lot of fun.
And please if you are in the Phoenix area or
anywhere in Arizona and you like boxing, please look up
browl in the barrio. That's Delsoboxing Promotions dot com. Follow
del Soo Boxing on Instagram, Follow Emily Boxing on Instagram, Twitter,
(33:29):
Emily Underscore Boxing on TikTok, and if you can make
it out to this event, you can buy tickets online.
It's a lot of fun and really hope to see
you there. So Jamison, where can people find you on
social media?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
At Twitter at v Jamison. That's the best way to
find me and we communicate. Chopping up all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
You can follow me at the Classy Alcoholic on Instagram
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(34:10):
our boxing expert, If you have fun stories about watching
boxing and Mixed Company, or hate mail, send it all
to letters at mixedcopodcast dot com. That's letters at mixedcopodcast
dot com and that'll be it for episode twelve of
the Mixed Company Podcast. Don't forget we dropped every two weeks,
so for the next time, please join us on Thursday,
(34:30):
March tenth, and thanks so much for listening. We will
have a full show up for you next time and
salute
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