April 9, 2025 • 37 mins
Boxing and sports betting expert Jamieson Welsh is joined by co-host The Classy Alcoholic for a very special episode of TMCP! The duo was honored to be joined by 140-pound fighter Trini Ochoa ahead of his April 19th fight with Francisco Cuadrado.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
In this corner standing it six foot five, weight class
unknown hailing from Sin City, Las Vegas, Jamison Welch and
in this corner standing it five foot nine, Wayne Town
with six wins, three losses, two arrests, four late payments
(00:22):
on student loans, and two total painkruptcies hits Doug Classy,
I'll go hold.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome back to another episode of Mixed Company podcast. Of course,
I'm one of your hosts, Jamison Wells. It's been a minute,
of course, I'm joined by the classy alcoholic classic. What's
going on?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Man o man?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I am so excited today for episode thirteen. We have
a special guest with us today. You know, we had
a guest for the last episode in due to technical difficulties,
it didn't work out, but we're making.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Up for it. I'm not letting you go nope, nope.
Before we're bringing our guests great.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You know what, we're using a new streaming service and
one one of our co hosts just didn't hit record.
Let's just say the one who's an amateur and more
of an idiot than the boxing expert didn't hit record.
I don't know it all happens.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm glad we're back, and I'm glad we do have
a different guests, though I want you to bring, you know,
intro our guests and bring them on.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But we have a bit of a surprise, a good surprise.
Though we do have a surprise. We get we get
to have a due over on our first time, don't
we wish we could all have a due over on
the first time. So we're going to bring to the
stage a fighter, professional fighter based in Phoenix. So you know,
fellow Arizona, I'm from Tucson or I'm in Tucson rather,
and he's got a fight coming up. Not this weekend,
(01:47):
but if you're listening to this when it comes out Saturday,
April nineteenth, let's not delay. Let's bring in our man
to the stage. Welcome to the ring, Triny, Oho, Triny.
How's it going?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
How's it going? Guys? Thanks for having me now.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Thank you so much. We really really appreciate you. How
will you? How are you feeling? You know, I know
you got a fight coming up, you know, what's that
about a week and a half out. What's the feeling
at this point? Like are you stoked? Are you still
kind of is it not ready in your mind yet?
Like Are you always ready all the time?
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Tell us I'm always ready. I'm excited. I'm looking forward
to the fight.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
It's always like like a holiday for me, like another.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Birthday in the day where everybody gets together, everybody shows
up to the fights. I put on a good show
where everybody has a good time and everybody celebrates. So
it's always a great time. Is something for me to
look forward to always. And I've been losing the weight,
I've been doing great training, giving up with my sparring.
Everything's going great this camp, and I just aford it awesome.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Awesome, And who exactly are you fighting?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
He's gonna be thirteen to one. He's a tough fighter.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
He has a ton of amateur experience too. And I'm
I'm ready though. We've done our research, and I feel
like I could. At this point in my career, I
could take on anybody, and I should be taking any
fight sick.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Gotcha?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Gotcha? So let me tell you something. I've taken some
boxing classes. I've done a lot of sparing in my day.
Nothing serious. I'm just never good at it. Got my
ass kicked a lot. I gotta be honest with you,
but it was a lot of fun. I did it
for fun. I never thought that, you know, I would
do be anything professional. I'm thirty nine, so like I'm
nobody's champ. Let's let's be real about it. But it
was a lot of fun. It was a lot of
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hard work. And I have a lot of questions for
somebody that really does this, you know, professionally in a ring.
You know, I have a million questions. But let's see.
Let's say let's say I was twenty to fifteen years
younger and I wanted to actually go from a boxing
gym to be in an event in a ring, you know,
with with spectators and stuff. What's that process? I've never
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known how a guy goes from just you know, hitting
a bag and sparring in a ring to being inside
being at an event.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Well, well, first of all, we all get our ass kick,
and it's just coming back, keep getting your ass kicked
until you don't get your ass kicked anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And that's usually the process with that. No worries on that.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I got that work, and.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Uh, I know it all just starts with showing up
at a boxing gym.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I talked to the coaches seeing, you know what what
they're what they're what the coaches are like, like if
they have other amateur fighters going to amateur shows and stuff.
Because it all starts with the amateurs, and you know,
you let them know your intentions. If your intentions is
to be a fighter right away, you let them know
your intentions and just to establish.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
That, like to keep an eye on you.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
And yeah, they won't give you mitwork or anything right away,
but as long as you're showing up every day, you're
showing you you have the drive, the passion to be
in the gym and to put in the work and
just show up consistently. Eventually, Uh, a coach or two
will see you and and they'll start giving you that mitwork,
seeing what you're about, start seeing if you really committed
(05:02):
to it, start showing you a thing or two here
and there, and it goes from there. Eventually you know,
you'll find yourself an amateur fighter too. And then that's
when we really get tested to see if you have
it in you to be a fighter, to stand on
that stage with the people watching and fighting and uh,
and you just you just keep it going.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
From there, gotcha? So from the amateurs, you know, is
that something that what's then jumping off process from that.
I mean, does somebody have to kind of is it
like other sports we get scouted, you know, somebody like
a scout doing for a little league or anything like that, Like.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
There's no that's the difference with Boxing's not really no
fine line. Professional boxers have a wide why the whitest
the range of skill sets from from the top of
the top to the low of the low. When you
feel like you're ready to become a professional after you
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know certa amount of amateur fights, you hop in there
and you do your thing and you try to do
the best to show you the best of your abilities
on that professional stage. And it's a lot different when
no head gear, smaller gloves, and it's all different fighting
staff too for amateurs.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Juremany when I did my sparring, it was just with
some bros on the weekend. You know, nobody was trying
to knock you out, but nobody wore headgear. And I
had a thing, but I wasn't going to come in
and being the only one with it, because then I'd
be like, I'm no coward, right, Like, if these guys
are going to do it, it was stupid, But I
don't know they were doing it. But yeah, so how
long have you actually what did you get into boxing?
Speaker 6 (06:39):
How long you've been I had my first amateur fight
when I was fourteen.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
My first uh my coach at the time, Jose Benavitez,
that's who taught me my first two years of boxing,
started off my amateur career and all that. So I
was fortunate to have such a such a good prominent.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Coach teach me the fundamental teaching, the basics starting on
my career, and I'm grateful that to this day we
take things that we've learned from me and my dad,
who's down my coach, we.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Take things that we've learned from them and bring with
us today.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Awesome, awesome, you know that's uh. I think boxing is
the coolest part in the world, the hardest sport in
the world as well. And when I started into it,
I got into it in my mid thirties, like I said,
for fun, so again, no way too late to be
anybody's champ. But what stood out to me the most
is how there's so much to it. If everybody thinks,
(07:34):
like your boxer, you gotta be strong, you gotta be
able to punch, and you gotta lift weights, whatever, No,
it's cardio, it's strength from head to toe, legs, it's diet,
it's everything. What would you say the hardest part of
training to be a fighter would be out of all
those things because I was a big cardio guy and
never I did weights because I wanted to get stronger,
but that was never really my thing. But yeah, what's
(07:54):
what would you say for you like the difficult the
most difficult part of staying in shape getting fight ready?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Since exactly that staying in shape, staying fight ready. The
most important part about boxing and the most hardest part
is discipline, staying disciplined in.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And outside of the gym. I'm outside the gym.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
You can't be partying with friends, you can't be drinking,
you can't be you know, messing around.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You gotta stay on way. You gotta stay disciplined.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
You got to show up to the gym every day,
you know, several times a day even, and you just
got to keep sticking to it and show you your
dedication and your drive to to accomplish your goals that
you have. And it's a good thing too, even if
you're not taking boxing serious, to follow.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Those same principles throughout life.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Sure, agreed. So where's where's the line like between somebody
that has it and does it? I mean you said
show up to the gym every day? Is it seven
days a week? Literally? And then on top of that,
is that like an hour or two hours? Is it
four hours at the gym? Like how do you go
from somebody's really really into boxing, dedicated and then somebody
who just is going to live it is going to
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be a professional, Like where where's the disconnect?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
First things first is having a schedule. Like my schedule is,
you know, every day, three.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Times a day.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I have Sundays on my day off, Saturdays I train once,
but Monday through Friday it's every day, three times a day.
I wake up early, get my running and get my
you know a little bit of cardio in. I come
back home, I rest, I wake up again at eleven twelve,
I'll go back to bed, take of the map, wake
up again at eleven twelve, do my boxing training for
(09:32):
at least two hours, get back home, rest up again,
and do my strength conditioning at five point thirty.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Who that's a whole day, Your whole day is decade.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Want to monopolize the conversation. It's super excited to have
you here. But lease Jamison, please, do you have any
questions for our guest here?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I do. You seem very mentally focused and strong. That's
very good to see. Where does that come from? Because
you're very everything's a strict regimen, very focused on ask
and there's a lot of expectations and you've seen the
man everything very well.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
What does that come from?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I have a good relationship with my dad and that's
a big determining factor in that you know, there was
times when we had nothing and and he stayed focused,
he stayed locked in on on on everything in life
where we barely had a house sometimes and he never
he never wavered, he never hesitated. He always just looked
(10:27):
ahead and said taking one step back to take two
steps forward. So I've been in way worse positions in
life and and everything, and I just know that at
the end of thea everything's gonna be okay as long.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
As you stick to the plan and UH tough through it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Got you Now when people call you the face of
Phoenix boxing, what does that mean to you?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
It was an honor to see, I think on Ring
magazine when when I saw that article.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
It was definitely a big honor.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It's something I wanted to war with pride and carry
on my shoulders and keep lifting that dead title up
even further.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Go ahead, Plassy. Yeah, So speaking of Phoenix boxing scene,
you know, so I'm in Tucson and I've been in
Arizona for like twenty years now. I'm originally from Texas
shout out to h Town, but made Arizona my home.
And you know, honestly, like, I don't know a lot
about the Phoenix boxing scene. I know that there's the
brawl in the body of events that I've been to before.
(11:26):
You know, you got iron Boy Boxing you're involved in.
You know, how would you say the scene is in Arizona? Like,
is there a lot of people that fight, a lot
of people that attend. I'm Mexican American, what I always say,
Mexicans love boxing. Arizona has a lot of them. So
it's popular here. But how popular is it really? Being
an insider, like, do you get big crowds coming out?
What's that like?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Oh? Yeah, at least whenever I fight, we bring a
big crowd.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Got a lot of friends, a lot of family, and
a lot of people who just support and show love there.
So I want to give us a big shout out
to them every time. If you ever seen me at
Celebrity Theater, you know, you know that place is going
to be packed.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
And every recently having fun, having a good time.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
There's a lot of other good up and coming fighters
out of out of Arizona too, so keep an eye
out for them. And we always like to support our
local scene, our local uh local community with.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Fighters, not just in Phoenix, but in all of Arizona.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I think we should, you know, carry each other up
and put our names out there and then help each other.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So I'm a big advocator.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
In that, and I think we got a lot of
potential in Arizona right now and good things.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Are coming our way.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That's bad ass, That's absolutely bad ass. How often do
you fight a couple times a year? Or what's what's
where you at you right now?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Usually usually at least three times a year?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Is I try to stay stay consistent, stay really consistent.
My last fight was not even two months ago. I'm
already you know, getting ready for this next one. So
after my last fight, it was a short fight, so
I didn't really have to take too much recovery time.
It was stopped in the third round, and then so
I had I fought on Saturday, I had Sunday off,
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Monday off.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And then we're right back in the gym on Tuesday,
right right back at the gym, bro no rest. I
appreciate that the so I did like after the ROWNA,
I turned into a big fat piece of crap. Let's
be honest. I got into boxing, got super into it,
taking lesson. I was doing like six days a week
at my peak. It wasn't like all the time, but
at my peak, I was doing like six days a week,
two two and a half hours in the gym. Because
(13:23):
I loved it. I took some time away to go
back to my roots and focus on getting fat again,
you know, kind of reconnect with the old me. But
but it's something I definitely want to get back to.
But it is a wild life. Like is there so
you started this, like you said when you were when
you were a kid, you know, was there ever a
period where you were like, okay, I still need like
a job and also boxing or like were you all in?
(13:44):
Was it all boxing all the time ever since you
were a teenager? What is that like? Because it's it's
a long it's a long day of if you know,
just training.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Yeah, I know, I've been all in since I was
a kid. But i mean, yeah, obviously you need money.
Sometimes you need a support. I'm luckily to have started.
You know, my professional career started getting paid for it
early on, when I was eighteen nineteen. I became a pro,
so not always boxing always kind of paid a little
bit for my, uh my expenses that I needed, and
(14:15):
you know, in between, I would do you know, things
like Uber Eats deliveries and door dash and stuff. Every
now and then I'll still hop in because I just
find it relaxing sometimes. But okay, I would do that,
you know, just.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
To find your extra money to make some bills or something,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
But for the for the most.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Part, I've just been locked in on boxing. And then
now I'm fortunate enough to do it, you know, one
hundred percent. And uh boxing you know, takes cares for everything.
All my sponsors shout out to them. They take care
of for I have great training camps. You know, I
don't have to worry about anything. So I'm very fortunate.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Now that's awesome. So the thing about you know, like
I said, if you're you were into boxing, you know,
all in when you were a kid. But what if
somebody is like, I'm twenty five, you know, and I said,
it is getting into it? Not me again, because I'm old.
I'm talking about somebody that's younger gets into it, really
likes it. Is it a thing that is it even possible?
(15:09):
Like do they Is it like a I'm not gonna say,
don't chase your dream, but you know, in your opinion,
and what is it like for somebody that's kind of older,
because boxing, you know, you'll get twenty nine, you're basically
a senior citizen. What's your take on somebody's ability to
become pro? Maybe not a superstar, maybe not you selling
out you know, arenas or anything like that, but to
be legitimately in the ring.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
When I started, I started at fourteen, I felt like
I was starting. My dad always told me there's these
kids who started boxing since I was six years old.
They be't doing it really amateurs. So since they was
six eight years old, I just had to work that
much harder to catch ups than you told me. And
even before I turned pro, I put in that work.
I worked my ass off, and I felt like I
did catch up and surpassed them, and my careers just
(15:52):
kept going forward from that. I haven't slowed down yet,
So I feel great and I don't think anything's impossible.
So for anybody who still get into it, it's gonna
be harder, harder than I had it, harder than anybody's
had it. If you're starting, you know, at twenty five,
twenty six or whatever, that's my age. Now, you're gonna
have a lot of catching up to do. I'm like, lead,
you got to ship it to me that easy. But
(16:15):
I do believe you could do it. You know, You're
just gonna have to be patient, though. You're gonna have
to dedicate a lot, a lot of time, a lot
of energy, and pretty much your whole life to it.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
If you want to jump into the state awesome, awesome Jameson,
please you know, don't, yeah take over? No, I got you,
I got you.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You gotta catch your breath. As a wader that's in it,
you know, always training, always ready. Is there a like
a plan for the future or do you take things
like fight by fight? So do you have like a
plan like saying, hey, next week fights are doing this
this and that and this is the goal or are
you more focused on each fight as it comes.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Each fight as they come. You know, the the toughest
opponent is opponent that's right in front of you. So
I'm gonna take my opponents one by one and uh
where about.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
What comes comes after that.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
But we're always stay ready like I said, and we
stay ready for that.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Phone call for whatever.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
You know, if somebody drops out of one of those
world title fights, We're gonna be ready to step up
at all times.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
So I'm just looking forward to it for opportunities like that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Is there a place that you want to fight out,
like a city or location that you want to fight
out that you haven't yet.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Well, all my fights have been in my hometown right now,
and it would be really cool ideally to bring a
world title to Phoenix, to my hometown.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
So if I could fight for that over here.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
You know, we're working on bringing these these big crowds
to the local shows, and I just want to keep
bringing these big crowds and showing up and showing people
that we can bring a big title over here.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
And I want to represent from my city.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, I live in Vegas, so I'm right next door.
I would love to see you here. However, I don't
mind going out there. It's an hour fight, four hour drives,
so whatever works, let me know, we'll make it work.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
But the Vegas is right here. It's like my second home.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
We're over there all the time for sparring and stuff
like that, So I would in mind vegasy there.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
I like that place.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Now, question, how do you stay focused out here? Because
I've been here twenty something years and I've seen a
lot of boxes come here and they're not focused on
Oh there's a reason I don't. I don't live in Vegas.
Let me say that right now.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
My name is the classic alcoholic. Let's make that clear.
But go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Here and they can't stay out the casinos and the clubs. However,
when you come here and work out, how do you
stay focused?
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Well, my dad's my coach. So if I'm coming here,
I'm coming with my dad.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
He's gonna be with me.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
He's and have his eyes on me on all times,
and he's not let me do none of that. But also,
I've never been really really big into drinking in the
party and stuff. I like to just chill in my
room and play video games.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
At the end of the day, and that's okay.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
That's what I'm gonna do if I'm in Vegas. That's
what I'm doing when I'm at home. That's why I got,
you know, a nice mic, a nice little setup over
Here's that's what I do. So I don't I don't
like to pretend I'm somebody I'm not. I don't want
to go over there and try to be at the
club all crazy. I'm just focused on what I need
to and I got all this support, all these people
(19:07):
on my back, So why would I, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Mess that up for fun night in Vegas or two.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You know, you'd be surprised. Man, everyone comes in with
that mindset. It takes a really strong individual to keep that.
Now you've got a good circle around you, so it
seems like everybody knows they roll, and everybody's in this
for the right thing. So I think you're gonna be
all right. But a lot of people, man, you'd be surprised.
A lot of people come out here with you know, saying, oh,
I'm just here to work, and they can't stay focused.
But it is very good that you do come here
(19:33):
and get your work in. Like I said, if you're
not in the clubs, you're not in the scene. You're
gonna be all right cause a lot of boxers are
out here. Not everybody's able to stay here. Some people
gotta go back home.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So it is.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Somebody get eighty six from Vegas, I guess.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Right, not not even you know what, Sometimes the powers
that be got to take them out because they're spending
to bunch of money and wasting time. Like you're here
for work. You're not here for partying, Like this is
all work related activities. You're here to stay in shape.
Like you mentioned the spar workout, strategize. It's a business trip,
and a lot of times guys just do not understand that.
(20:07):
So it is good, is refreshing here, someone actually come
here and taking care of business.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
That's exactly what I tell everybody when I tell it, Yeah,
I'm gonna be Vegas for a week. I can't do
this or whatever. You're like, oh, that sounds fun. I'm like, no,
this business trip, guys, it's a word trip stall work.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
We're not We're not. I'm not having fun. I always
see it.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Oh, just meal preps, small meal preps, saw portions.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
And you know, just just staying on it, trying to
maintain a balanced diet and uh eating enough, you know,
making sure you keep your away good.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Okay, so I guess some more boxing questions, of course,
but uh you mentioned something that I want to take
them to a bit of different direction. Stay at home,
play video games. You know, I want to know about
where your life is outside of the ring. You know,
what what are you playing?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Like?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
For you A PS five guy, Xbox guy? What are
you at? What do you like?
Speaker 6 (20:55):
I have PS five, I played PC. I've mentioned the
old games too.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I play just a little bit of everything. I'm I'm
a big gamer since.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I was little, so I always I always try to
play a little bit of everything nowadays cause I don't
want to lose that lose that title. You know that
I'm a big gamer, so I gotta stick to it.
And I like card games too. I'll go to the
card shops sometimes, play some card games friends or have
a good time. Like like I said, I stay out
of the drinking at the partying when I'm in especially
(21:23):
when I'm in training camp double down, and I just
I just use training camps as a way to you know,
I got all this time to play video games now
when I'm not training.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So, speaking of that, do you play like are you
the kind of places like Call of Duty online or
do you like, you know, games that are not online
like the Script I like the script story, I like
the campaign.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah, me too, I like I like single player focused games.
So every now and then I'll hop on online game
with my friends. But I'm a big single player like
RPGs and stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Nice. What's it? What's your franchise? Are you a Fallout guy?
I love Fallout?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Oh, Fallout's good.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I never got too into Fault yet yet, I say,
because I plan on getting.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Into it eventually. I know it's one of the one
of the greatest, you know, franchises.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Part Part three I think is a good one to
get into because it's good that one is for p
S three, I think, Yeah, but if you go back
to that one, that's one of my favorite stories. But yeah,
so then what are other friends that you're into?
Speaker 6 (22:18):
What are just like a persona Final Fantasy?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
A lot of the Japanese ones I really like, uh,
Eldin Ring obviously can't go wrong with the Souls games.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I want to. I want to.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Those are very hard.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
It was very hard, just a little bit every like,
like I said, any I try to get any new
new new releases coming out and stuff, or I get
really big into.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I'm like a casual gamer. Like I'll get super into
a game for like a few months and then I
won't touch my system for like honestly sometimes a year.
I use it mostly play four K movies, That's what
I use.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
But play.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, I'm a guy who like I love boxing, you know,
my favorite sports, the only sport I really care about.
But well, ronn it. I can talk me to Gains,
I can talk Star Wars and I hear you're into
you said, Cargoons, You're into Magic the Gathering.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah, big, big into Magic the Gathering. I go to.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
There's a card shop, like not even a light light
down the street from me. So like I'm there Mondays
and thursdays of their Magic Night Saga head over there
and play Guard games over there with So made a
bunch of friends over there.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
They actually went to my last fight too, a lot
of the guys from the shop. So they had a
good time over there too.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It was a good time. They're good friends.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Now nice, Okay, Now I gotta know, So, what's that like,
because you know, I'm a nerd to like I said,
I I do. I do this podcast and then I'm
a host on our guest rather on my friends Star
Wars podcast from time to time. So what's it like
for your magic gathering friends to show up to boxing?
Are they like? Is it cool? And they kind to
feel out of place? You know what?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
They loved it because obviously it is different. They are
a little out of place, but that's what makes it
so exciting too, I feel like and yeah, they had
a great time. They showed up to the after party too.
They're excited to talk to me about it, and you
know they had a good time.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
There's there's a good good amount of them too, so
they're all having fun together.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Do you want to give a shout out to the
car shop here? You know support the is a local business.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, shout outs to Northern Valley Games. I've been in there.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
You know, that's where I first got my first magic
deck from. And they've they've been, you know, help me
out the whole trip when I was learning magic.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
North Valley Games. Is that in in Phoenix or there's
a location.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
In Phoenix and there's a there's a location of me, so.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Games, I'll check them out. I go to Phoenix pretty
pretty often. That was there a couple of weekends ago
for a concert, So I'll definitely check them out and
we'll see, yeah, pick up some stuff. So uh bringing
it back to boxing and James, and you got something
because I got something here for you.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So I do. I want to For the fans that
don't know, they just tune on the TV and so
you walk out the ring, handle business and go home.
But can you give us behind the scenes of a
fight day, day of a fight, waking up to getting
to the arena, can you give us an in depth
detail of that whole day?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I usually wake up in the mornings, my dad will
go to first watch, get a good breakfast. I like
a big breakfast before my fight, durd of the day
of my fight. Like a big breakfast but healthy, easily digestible.
I'll have like a Greek yogurt with a bunch of
like granola fruits and stuff. And then I'll have a
(25:27):
oatmeal too with that decent size too, all of that
and then they'll get me nice and.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Full and then I just eat light the rest of
the day until the fight.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Pretty much.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
But yeah, we'll go to have a big breakfast over there,
and I come back home, I take a nap, I
sleep relax, you know. I try to sleep and take
a long as long as of a nap as possible.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Before the fight.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
We usually show up to the venue at like four
or five. We get there, we get checked up by
the doctor in the back, all that fun stuff, and
then I'm just chilling in the dressing room until the fight.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Really, it's really just a relaxed day and nothing crazy.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Apps. Try to stay focused, try to see opt in.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I when I was doing my peak training, I was like, wait,
weighing food, like had a little weight scale and everything that.
I was like, it's wild. I've never done anything like that.
It was kind of it was kind of an experiment,
but to see like how hardcore I could get into it. Uh,
Like I said, I fluctuated, you know, the the like
the Facebook meme, the thing that the grand piece put
up there. It's like nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Okay, Yeah,
(26:36):
no one thing, bro like that. I agree, no one thing.
But there's a lot of shit that you could eat
a lot.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Yeah, I have a big sweet tooth.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
So dieting is one of the hardest things for me
because I just I love chocolate.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Okay, do you have a cheat day? Is that depends.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Depends you know, it depends on my on my weight
at the time. You know, I just feel it out
for how I feel like if if I'm not, if
i'm I don't have room for a cheat little snack
or something, I won't I won't take it. But if
you know, if I'm doing good on weight this week
or whatever, I'll have like a little chocolate bar or
cookie or something nice.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Great, So probably my last one. But Jameson please jump
in so curious you said you don't really think about
the future. It's you know, one fight at a time.
I mean, I'm not probably I'm gonna assume that you
always think about wanting to be a champ, Like you said,
you know, want to bring about But if there was
a call for somebody to cancel the call, is there
one name that you're like, I want to take that guy,
(27:32):
that guy I want to I want to if I
think and I could bring him down. Do you have
a name?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
There's no one name, but I will right now if
you give me that call anybody at a one hundred
and forty pound way class, we're taking that fight, anyone
taking that fight, anybody, anybody.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I appreciate that, you know. It's something so Jamis and
I here on this show, we we critique the boxing
industry and the scene a lot, but it's because we
love it. It's because we we love the sport and
want it to be better. One common complaint I think
this comes up is that the big h aren't fighting
often enough. So I we really appreciate you saying you
fight three times a year. The biggest names, you know,
they should be fighting more than once a year. Some
(28:07):
guys don't even do that. So but what also, but
here's the thing. You take a big name, you bring
a bill back, are you gonna chill? Are you gonna
be like all right, you know I can wait another
year or two for a fight, or are you gonna
you feel like you're gonna stick to that schedule? Like
I still want more, I'm still hungry. I'm gonna go
out and get it.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
I feel like at least owe it to my supporters
and my fans to bring at least one or two
fights a year, even after I havingable.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Title okay, okay, I'm shooting for two fights a year. Still.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I love that you said if I get a work
world You didn't say if I get a world title.
You said even after I get a world title. So
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And that's that's awesome, Jims. You got anything else here?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
For a man? I got one last one dream opponent past,
future present. Is there that one opponent where you either
wish you could have fought from yes for a year,
or wish you could fight going forward that you've always
dreamt about or always thought about just in general.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Hmmm, let's see one forty.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I mean, I think Marquez would be just good to
learn off of for me my style. But I feel
like you just can't go wrong with with Mayweather. I mean,
it will be a frustrating fight. I hate fighting them,
but you'll learn so much off that fight that you
know it'll just improve me by you know, so much.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
So I feel like I would I would love to fight.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Mayweather iron iron sharp AND's iron. Yeah, okay, just to
quick fall up on that. So you said a frustrating fight,
you learned a lot, but do you think you could
beat them in your prime? And you know, it's prime.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
My prime, may other's prime all to see.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I like I said, I think I could beat anybody
right now, but uh, he's one. He's one of the legends,
one of the greatest of all time. And you know
everybody who said, you know, they've had that that they
oh I got I got an answer for him.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I got him. They never came out on top.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
So well, you know, one thing I always say, not
just in boxing, but in life, is that we learn
more from our losses than we do from our wins.
So you know, I think, can't be can't be afraid
to lose no matter what.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I love that you said earlier, even inspiring, even you
you know, seasoned train still get your ass kicked right
from time to time, Like, hey, it happens. So but
here's the thing about boxing that I love. Boxers not
just have to be strong, but they'd be brave and
they can't be scared of of a loss, right, what
do you think?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Definitely that's the only way you learn taking risks, and
if you can, you know, come out on top on
all those risks that you're taking, you're just gonna get
so much better off of it.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Awesome, awesome, Well, treating won't take up more of your
time because I know you've got to train or also
get back on the on the PS five. But please
tell the people when your next fight is and uh
we're when and where it's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
April nineteenth at the Celebrity Theater under the Iron Boy Card.
I'm excited to fight, can't wait to see there.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Hell yeah? And where can people find you on social media?
Do you have Instagram? Twitter?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Like?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
What's your Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:12):
You find me on Instagram at trainy eight to a
spinsram training eight a as in training.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Oh, Chue, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah great, all right, follow training, get tickets to the
Celebrity Theater. Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Any sponsors that you want to shout out or anyone
you want to shut out before you head on out.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's all my sponsors.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
They're always, you know, showing up, especially Franco, my dad's friend.
You know, he's one of our biggest sponsors. I'm gonna
shout him out by name though this time because he's.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Been happening out a lot.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I appreciate him and then everything he does for us.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Hell yeah, Franco, thank you for helping out with Training's
career because he brought us to this show and we
really appreciate it. Thank you for being on the Mixed
Company Podcast, Treating. We are appreciate you. You have no idea
and we'd love to have you back and talk about
how the fights went after the fact. If that's cool
with you, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I'm always done.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Absolutely. Good luck, good luck, good luck to Treating, good
luck to Treaty. And I'm gonna finish up really quick
here in the Mixed Company Podcast. Jamis the man. That
was a great interview. Did you like that? That was amazing?
I was mad.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I did not wake up thinking we were gonna have
that interview. I was prepared for anything.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's funny how these things do happen, but I'm glad
it did happen. It's very good to find a young
fighter that's focused. We always come across a lot of
guys that are on BS. I said, I'm not here
for twenty years, so I've seen and heard all kinds
of different stories about all the different type of people. I've heard
stories about Browner, her stories about Sean Porter, which are
(32:46):
like opposite, you know what I mean. So you you
hear you know, you hear and see a lot of
different things, and not.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Everybody comes out here focused like I've seen. You're right
out here. You know, people get a.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
House out here, they train out here, but they can't
stay out casino or there. Camp, can't stay out in trouble.
So it's good to see like Pop's got things straight,
you know, boxing that stuff straight. No friction in the camp,
No no random stories about women I crazy going on.
It's good to see like, all right, the main thing
(33:17):
is the main thing, and we don't have that a
whole lot anymore.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Now. I really appreciate that question from me. I guess
it's something I never really considered that. You know. Yeah,
for me, Vegas is like a giant playground. But I
don't know, I guess in my mind kind of like
you said, you know, think of it like this. Think
about it.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
If you had millions of dollars in your account, you
can do whatever you always.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
There's no one that can really stop you, and you
can get whatever you want at any time. And this
is Vegas, so there's no limits on whatever you want.
If you want a five star dinner at two am.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
It gets done.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
If you want three women that look a certain way,
it gets found. If you want drugs, it gets found.
If you want liquor, it gets brought to you. So
whatever your heart desires, it gets brought to you.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
That's yeah. No, I mean you're absolutely right, And I
am aware of that in concept, in theory of course,
because I don't I wouldn't be able to roll like that.
But yeah, I guess in my mind, I'm like, well, yeah,
if you're in Vegas, if you're a big, big name fighter,
you're gonna be on pay per view, HBO whatever, like
you know, you're there to do the thing and you're
not gonna let yourself get sidetracked. But that's not true.
That's actually it's human nature to you know, to just
(34:32):
like I said, anything you want, anytime. How it's so
how can you say no to that? But I think
Treey's got a good head on his shoulders. You know,
family is involved, and like you said, you know, for him,
especially if he fucked this up, you know, he's right
back where he was broke, you know, not having trouble
finding housing, all that stuff, And I'm sure he doesn't
want to go back to that, So.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He ain't going back to the way he sound, and he
ain't going back to that, so he gonna be all right.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, No, it's really cool getting not just a profighter,
a profighter from Arizona. You know I'm representing here.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Arizona is the face of Phoenix box Ship, the face
of Arizona Boxing, which.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Absolutely, you know that that was really cool and you know,
thank him. I'd like to thank him. I think his promoter,
Emily Gurdin, for setting that up for us. And yeah,
and the other fighters that want to come on the show.
We're not going to come at you like, hey, well
you fucking you know you should be doing this, you
should be doing this, blah blah blah. No, no, no,
we're here to learn from y'all, and we want the
audience to learn from y'all as well.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, we want to promote the good part of boxing.
The other stuff I don't care about. I don't care
about any of the stuff that gets clicks. I want
to promote the good stuff, the stuff that boxing fans
double upon and be like, I want to learn more
about this person. That's what we want to create here.
We're not trying to create anything pieces or any clickbased stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
We want people to do a deep.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Dive on everyone that we interview, everyone that we come across,
and that's what we're up.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
That's what we're trying to do here. Absolutely so cool. Well,
I think that's a pretty good for today's episode. Jamison,
Where can people find you on social media? At the
Jamison on Twitter? That's probably the best place.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I don't really do Instagram when it comes to people,
but on Twitter probably the best place.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
But nah, I'll be watching fights.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Man, got ESPN Plus, got Paramount Plus, got Netflix, Amazon,
the Zone or Dazen whatever it's called. Got a firestick.
You know the other things that come through the dms
and the emails. Were not going to talk about them.
But yeah, we're gonna watch the fight. So there's a
fight home. We're gonna find a way to watch it.
Got enough TVs to do so, so we're gonna find
a way.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Absolutely, And for any of your first time listeners, you know,
I started off as a craft beer blogger. I love boxing.
I love watching it. It's my favorite sport. But I've never
said I'm an expert. I would never say that Jamison
is a boxing expert. So I want to learn more
about the sport, about the industry. If you're a listener
that has any questions about the sport, about technique, anything
that give us a shout, you know, reach out to
(36:57):
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(37:39):
so much for Trini Ochoa, Thank you so much for listening. Goodnight,
and salou
In this corner standing it six foot five, weight class
unknown hailing from Sin City, Las Vegas, Jamison Welch and
in this corner standing it five foot nine, Wayne Town
with six wins, three losses, two arrests, four late payments
(00:22):
on student loans, and two total painkruptcies hits Doug Classy,
I'll go hold.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome back to another episode of Mixed Company podcast. Of course,
I'm one of your hosts, Jamison Wells. It's been a minute,
of course, I'm joined by the classy alcoholic classic. What's
going on?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Man o man?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I am so excited today for episode thirteen. We have
a special guest with us today. You know, we had
a guest for the last episode in due to technical difficulties,
it didn't work out, but we're making.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Up for it. I'm not letting you go nope, nope.
Before we're bringing our guests great.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You know what, we're using a new streaming service and
one one of our co hosts just didn't hit record.
Let's just say the one who's an amateur and more
of an idiot than the boxing expert didn't hit record.
I don't know it all happens.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm glad we're back, and I'm glad we do have
a different guests, though I want you to bring, you know,
intro our guests and bring them on.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But we have a bit of a surprise, a good surprise.
Though we do have a surprise. We get we get
to have a due over on our first time, don't
we wish we could all have a due over on
the first time. So we're going to bring to the
stage a fighter, professional fighter based in Phoenix. So you know,
fellow Arizona, I'm from Tucson or I'm in Tucson rather,
and he's got a fight coming up. Not this weekend,
(01:47):
but if you're listening to this when it comes out Saturday,
April nineteenth, let's not delay. Let's bring in our man
to the stage. Welcome to the ring, Triny, Oho, Triny.
How's it going?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
How's it going? Guys? Thanks for having me now.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Thank you so much. We really really appreciate you. How
will you? How are you feeling? You know, I know
you got a fight coming up, you know, what's that
about a week and a half out. What's the feeling
at this point? Like are you stoked? Are you still
kind of is it not ready in your mind yet?
Like Are you always ready all the time?
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Tell us I'm always ready. I'm excited. I'm looking forward
to the fight.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
It's always like like a holiday for me, like another.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Birthday in the day where everybody gets together, everybody shows
up to the fights. I put on a good show
where everybody has a good time and everybody celebrates. So
it's always a great time. Is something for me to
look forward to always. And I've been losing the weight,
I've been doing great training, giving up with my sparring.
Everything's going great this camp, and I just aford it awesome.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Awesome, And who exactly are you fighting?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
He's gonna be thirteen to one. He's a tough fighter.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
He has a ton of amateur experience too. And I'm
I'm ready though. We've done our research, and I feel
like I could. At this point in my career, I
could take on anybody, and I should be taking any
fight sick.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Gotcha?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Gotcha? So let me tell you something. I've taken some
boxing classes. I've done a lot of sparing in my day.
Nothing serious. I'm just never good at it. Got my
ass kicked a lot. I gotta be honest with you,
but it was a lot of fun. I did it
for fun. I never thought that, you know, I would
do be anything professional. I'm thirty nine, so like I'm
nobody's champ. Let's let's be real about it. But it
was a lot of fun. It was a lot of
(03:29):
hard work. And I have a lot of questions for
somebody that really does this, you know, professionally in a ring.
You know, I have a million questions. But let's see.
Let's say let's say I was twenty to fifteen years
younger and I wanted to actually go from a boxing
gym to be in an event in a ring, you know,
with with spectators and stuff. What's that process? I've never
(03:49):
known how a guy goes from just you know, hitting
a bag and sparring in a ring to being inside
being at an event.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Well, well, first of all, we all get our ass kick,
and it's just coming back, keep getting your ass kicked
until you don't get your ass kicked anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And that's usually the process with that. No worries on that.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I got that work, and.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Uh, I know it all just starts with showing up
at a boxing gym.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I talked to the coaches seeing, you know what what
they're what they're what the coaches are like, like if
they have other amateur fighters going to amateur shows and stuff.
Because it all starts with the amateurs, and you know,
you let them know your intentions. If your intentions is
to be a fighter right away, you let them know
your intentions and just to establish.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
That, like to keep an eye on you.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
And yeah, they won't give you mitwork or anything right away,
but as long as you're showing up every day, you're
showing you you have the drive, the passion to be
in the gym and to put in the work and
just show up consistently. Eventually, Uh, a coach or two
will see you and and they'll start giving you that mitwork,
seeing what you're about, start seeing if you really committed
(05:02):
to it, start showing you a thing or two here
and there, and it goes from there. Eventually you know,
you'll find yourself an amateur fighter too. And then that's
when we really get tested to see if you have
it in you to be a fighter, to stand on
that stage with the people watching and fighting and uh,
and you just you just keep it going.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
From there, gotcha? So from the amateurs, you know, is
that something that what's then jumping off process from that.
I mean, does somebody have to kind of is it
like other sports we get scouted, you know, somebody like
a scout doing for a little league or anything like that, Like.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
There's no that's the difference with Boxing's not really no
fine line. Professional boxers have a wide why the whitest
the range of skill sets from from the top of
the top to the low of the low. When you
feel like you're ready to become a professional after you
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know certa amount of amateur fights, you hop in there
and you do your thing and you try to do
the best to show you the best of your abilities
on that professional stage. And it's a lot different when
no head gear, smaller gloves, and it's all different fighting
staff too for amateurs.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Juremany when I did my sparring, it was just with
some bros on the weekend. You know, nobody was trying
to knock you out, but nobody wore headgear. And I
had a thing, but I wasn't going to come in
and being the only one with it, because then I'd
be like, I'm no coward, right, Like, if these guys
are going to do it, it was stupid, But I
don't know they were doing it. But yeah, so how
long have you actually what did you get into boxing?
Speaker 6 (06:39):
How long you've been I had my first amateur fight
when I was fourteen.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
My first uh my coach at the time, Jose Benavitez,
that's who taught me my first two years of boxing,
started off my amateur career and all that. So I
was fortunate to have such a such a good prominent.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Coach teach me the fundamental teaching, the basics starting on
my career, and I'm grateful that to this day we
take things that we've learned from me and my dad,
who's down my coach, we.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Take things that we've learned from them and bring with
us today.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Awesome, awesome, you know that's uh. I think boxing is
the coolest part in the world, the hardest sport in
the world as well. And when I started into it,
I got into it in my mid thirties, like I said,
for fun, so again, no way too late to be
anybody's champ. But what stood out to me the most
is how there's so much to it. If everybody thinks,
(07:34):
like your boxer, you gotta be strong, you gotta be
able to punch, and you gotta lift weights, whatever, No,
it's cardio, it's strength from head to toe, legs, it's diet,
it's everything. What would you say the hardest part of
training to be a fighter would be out of all
those things because I was a big cardio guy and
never I did weights because I wanted to get stronger,
but that was never really my thing. But yeah, what's
(07:54):
what would you say for you like the difficult the
most difficult part of staying in shape getting fight ready?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Since exactly that staying in shape, staying fight ready. The
most important part about boxing and the most hardest part
is discipline, staying disciplined in.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And outside of the gym. I'm outside the gym.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
You can't be partying with friends, you can't be drinking,
you can't be you know, messing around.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You gotta stay on way. You gotta stay disciplined.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
You got to show up to the gym every day,
you know, several times a day even, and you just
got to keep sticking to it and show you your
dedication and your drive to to accomplish your goals that
you have. And it's a good thing too, even if
you're not taking boxing serious, to follow.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Those same principles throughout life.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Sure, agreed. So where's where's the line like between somebody
that has it and does it? I mean you said
show up to the gym every day? Is it seven
days a week? Literally? And then on top of that,
is that like an hour or two hours? Is it
four hours at the gym? Like how do you go
from somebody's really really into boxing, dedicated and then somebody
who just is going to live it is going to
(08:58):
be a professional, Like where where's the disconnect?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
First things first is having a schedule. Like my schedule is,
you know, every day, three.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Times a day.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I have Sundays on my day off, Saturdays I train once,
but Monday through Friday it's every day, three times a day.
I wake up early, get my running and get my
you know a little bit of cardio in. I come
back home, I rest, I wake up again at eleven twelve,
I'll go back to bed, take of the map, wake
up again at eleven twelve, do my boxing training for
(09:32):
at least two hours, get back home, rest up again,
and do my strength conditioning at five point thirty.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Who that's a whole day, Your whole day is decade.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Want to monopolize the conversation. It's super excited to have
you here. But lease Jamison, please, do you have any
questions for our guest here?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I do. You seem very mentally focused and strong. That's
very good to see. Where does that come from? Because
you're very everything's a strict regimen, very focused on ask
and there's a lot of expectations and you've seen the
man everything very well.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
What does that come from?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I have a good relationship with my dad and that's
a big determining factor in that you know, there was
times when we had nothing and and he stayed focused,
he stayed locked in on on on everything in life
where we barely had a house sometimes and he never
he never wavered, he never hesitated. He always just looked
(10:27):
ahead and said taking one step back to take two
steps forward. So I've been in way worse positions in
life and and everything, and I just know that at
the end of thea everything's gonna be okay as long.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
As you stick to the plan and UH tough through it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Got you Now when people call you the face of
Phoenix boxing, what does that mean to you?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
It was an honor to see, I think on Ring
magazine when when I saw that article.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
It was definitely a big honor.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It's something I wanted to war with pride and carry
on my shoulders and keep lifting that dead title up
even further.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Go ahead, Plassy. Yeah, So speaking of Phoenix boxing scene,
you know, so I'm in Tucson and I've been in
Arizona for like twenty years now. I'm originally from Texas
shout out to h Town, but made Arizona my home.
And you know, honestly, like, I don't know a lot
about the Phoenix boxing scene. I know that there's the
brawl in the body of events that I've been to before.
(11:26):
You know, you got iron Boy Boxing you're involved in.
You know, how would you say the scene is in Arizona? Like,
is there a lot of people that fight, a lot
of people that attend. I'm Mexican American, what I always say,
Mexicans love boxing. Arizona has a lot of them. So
it's popular here. But how popular is it really? Being
an insider, like, do you get big crowds coming out?
What's that like?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Oh? Yeah, at least whenever I fight, we bring a
big crowd.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Got a lot of friends, a lot of family, and
a lot of people who just support and show love there.
So I want to give us a big shout out
to them every time. If you ever seen me at
Celebrity Theater, you know, you know that place is going
to be packed.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
And every recently having fun, having a good time.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
There's a lot of other good up and coming fighters
out of out of Arizona too, so keep an eye
out for them. And we always like to support our
local scene, our local uh local community with.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Fighters, not just in Phoenix, but in all of Arizona.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I think we should, you know, carry each other up
and put our names out there and then help each other.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So I'm a big advocator.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
In that, and I think we got a lot of
potential in Arizona right now and good things.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Are coming our way.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That's bad ass, That's absolutely bad ass. How often do
you fight a couple times a year? Or what's what's
where you at you right now?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Usually usually at least three times a year?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Is I try to stay stay consistent, stay really consistent.
My last fight was not even two months ago. I'm
already you know, getting ready for this next one. So
after my last fight, it was a short fight, so
I didn't really have to take too much recovery time.
It was stopped in the third round, and then so
I had I fought on Saturday, I had Sunday off,
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Monday off.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And then we're right back in the gym on Tuesday,
right right back at the gym, bro no rest. I
appreciate that the so I did like after the ROWNA,
I turned into a big fat piece of crap. Let's
be honest. I got into boxing, got super into it,
taking lesson. I was doing like six days a week
at my peak. It wasn't like all the time, but
at my peak, I was doing like six days a week,
two two and a half hours in the gym. Because
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I loved it. I took some time away to go
back to my roots and focus on getting fat again,
you know, kind of reconnect with the old me. But
but it's something I definitely want to get back to.
But it is a wild life. Like is there so
you started this, like you said when you were when
you were a kid, you know, was there ever a
period where you were like, okay, I still need like
a job and also boxing or like were you all in?
(13:44):
Was it all boxing all the time ever since you
were a teenager? What is that like? Because it's it's
a long it's a long day of if you know,
just training.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Yeah, I know, I've been all in since I was
a kid. But i mean, yeah, obviously you need money.
Sometimes you need a support. I'm luckily to have started.
You know, my professional career started getting paid for it
early on, when I was eighteen nineteen. I became a pro,
so not always boxing always kind of paid a little
bit for my, uh my expenses that I needed, and
(14:15):
you know, in between, I would do you know, things
like Uber Eats deliveries and door dash and stuff. Every
now and then I'll still hop in because I just
find it relaxing sometimes. But okay, I would do that,
you know, just.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
To find your extra money to make some bills or something,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
But for the for the most.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Part, I've just been locked in on boxing. And then
now I'm fortunate enough to do it, you know, one
hundred percent. And uh boxing you know, takes cares for everything.
All my sponsors shout out to them. They take care
of for I have great training camps. You know, I
don't have to worry about anything. So I'm very fortunate.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Now that's awesome. So the thing about you know, like
I said, if you're you were into boxing, you know,
all in when you were a kid. But what if
somebody is like, I'm twenty five, you know, and I said,
it is getting into it? Not me again, because I'm old.
I'm talking about somebody that's younger gets into it, really
likes it. Is it a thing that is it even possible?
(15:09):
Like do they Is it like a I'm not gonna say,
don't chase your dream, but you know, in your opinion,
and what is it like for somebody that's kind of older,
because boxing, you know, you'll get twenty nine, you're basically
a senior citizen. What's your take on somebody's ability to
become pro? Maybe not a superstar, maybe not you selling
out you know, arenas or anything like that, but to
be legitimately in the ring.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
When I started, I started at fourteen, I felt like
I was starting. My dad always told me there's these
kids who started boxing since I was six years old.
They be't doing it really amateurs. So since they was
six eight years old, I just had to work that
much harder to catch ups than you told me. And
even before I turned pro, I put in that work.
I worked my ass off, and I felt like I
did catch up and surpassed them, and my careers just
(15:52):
kept going forward from that. I haven't slowed down yet,
So I feel great and I don't think anything's impossible.
So for anybody who still get into it, it's gonna
be harder, harder than I had it, harder than anybody's
had it. If you're starting, you know, at twenty five,
twenty six or whatever, that's my age. Now, you're gonna
have a lot of catching up to do. I'm like, lead,
you got to ship it to me that easy. But
(16:15):
I do believe you could do it. You know, You're
just gonna have to be patient, though. You're gonna have
to dedicate a lot, a lot of time, a lot
of energy, and pretty much your whole life to it.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
If you want to jump into the state awesome, awesome Jameson,
please you know, don't, yeah take over? No, I got you,
I got you.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You gotta catch your breath. As a wader that's in it,
you know, always training, always ready. Is there a like
a plan for the future or do you take things
like fight by fight? So do you have like a
plan like saying, hey, next week fights are doing this
this and that and this is the goal or are
you more focused on each fight as it comes.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Each fight as they come. You know, the the toughest
opponent is opponent that's right in front of you. So
I'm gonna take my opponents one by one and uh
where about.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
What comes comes after that.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
But we're always stay ready like I said, and we
stay ready for that.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Phone call for whatever.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
You know, if somebody drops out of one of those
world title fights, We're gonna be ready to step up
at all times.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
So I'm just looking forward to it for opportunities like that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Is there a place that you want to fight out,
like a city or location that you want to fight
out that you haven't yet.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Well, all my fights have been in my hometown right now,
and it would be really cool ideally to bring a
world title to Phoenix, to my hometown.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
So if I could fight for that over here.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
You know, we're working on bringing these these big crowds
to the local shows, and I just want to keep
bringing these big crowds and showing up and showing people
that we can bring a big title over here.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
And I want to represent from my city.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, I live in Vegas, so I'm right next door.
I would love to see you here. However, I don't
mind going out there. It's an hour fight, four hour drives,
so whatever works, let me know, we'll make it work.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
But the Vegas is right here. It's like my second home.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
We're over there all the time for sparring and stuff
like that, So I would in mind vegasy there.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
I like that place.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Now, question, how do you stay focused out here? Because
I've been here twenty something years and I've seen a
lot of boxes come here and they're not focused on
Oh there's a reason I don't. I don't live in Vegas.
Let me say that right now.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
My name is the classic alcoholic. Let's make that clear.
But go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Here and they can't stay out the casinos and the clubs. However,
when you come here and work out, how do you
stay focused?
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Well, my dad's my coach. So if I'm coming here,
I'm coming with my dad.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
He's gonna be with me.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
He's and have his eyes on me on all times,
and he's not let me do none of that. But also,
I've never been really really big into drinking in the
party and stuff. I like to just chill in my
room and play video games.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
At the end of the day, and that's okay.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
That's what I'm gonna do if I'm in Vegas. That's
what I'm doing when I'm at home. That's why I got,
you know, a nice mic, a nice little setup over
Here's that's what I do. So I don't I don't
like to pretend I'm somebody I'm not. I don't want
to go over there and try to be at the
club all crazy. I'm just focused on what I need
to and I got all this support, all these people
(19:07):
on my back, So why would I, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Mess that up for fun night in Vegas or two.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You know, you'd be surprised. Man, everyone comes in with
that mindset. It takes a really strong individual to keep that.
Now you've got a good circle around you, so it
seems like everybody knows they roll, and everybody's in this
for the right thing. So I think you're gonna be
all right. But a lot of people, man, you'd be surprised.
A lot of people come out here with you know, saying, oh,
I'm just here to work, and they can't stay focused.
But it is very good that you do come here
(19:33):
and get your work in. Like I said, if you're
not in the clubs, you're not in the scene. You're
gonna be all right cause a lot of boxers are
out here. Not everybody's able to stay here. Some people
gotta go back home.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So it is.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Somebody get eighty six from Vegas, I guess.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Right, not not even you know what, Sometimes the powers
that be got to take them out because they're spending
to bunch of money and wasting time. Like you're here
for work. You're not here for partying, Like this is
all work related activities. You're here to stay in shape.
Like you mentioned the spar workout, strategize. It's a business trip,
and a lot of times guys just do not understand that.
(20:07):
So it is good, is refreshing here, someone actually come
here and taking care of business.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
That's exactly what I tell everybody when I tell it, Yeah,
I'm gonna be Vegas for a week. I can't do
this or whatever. You're like, oh, that sounds fun. I'm like, no,
this business trip, guys, it's a word trip stall work.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
We're not We're not. I'm not having fun. I always
see it.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Oh, just meal preps, small meal preps, saw portions.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
And you know, just just staying on it, trying to
maintain a balanced diet and uh eating enough, you know,
making sure you keep your away good.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Okay, so I guess some more boxing questions, of course,
but uh you mentioned something that I want to take
them to a bit of different direction. Stay at home,
play video games. You know, I want to know about
where your life is outside of the ring. You know,
what what are you playing?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Like?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
For you A PS five guy, Xbox guy? What are
you at? What do you like?
Speaker 6 (20:55):
I have PS five, I played PC. I've mentioned the
old games too.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I play just a little bit of everything. I'm I'm
a big gamer since.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I was little, so I always I always try to
play a little bit of everything nowadays cause I don't
want to lose that lose that title. You know that
I'm a big gamer, so I gotta stick to it.
And I like card games too. I'll go to the
card shops sometimes, play some card games friends or have
a good time. Like like I said, I stay out
of the drinking at the partying when I'm in especially
(21:23):
when I'm in training camp double down, and I just
I just use training camps as a way to you know,
I got all this time to play video games now
when I'm not training.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So, speaking of that, do you play like are you
the kind of places like Call of Duty online or
do you like, you know, games that are not online
like the Script I like the script story, I like
the campaign.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah, me too, I like I like single player focused games.
So every now and then I'll hop on online game
with my friends. But I'm a big single player like
RPGs and stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Nice. What's it? What's your franchise? Are you a Fallout guy?
I love Fallout?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Oh, Fallout's good.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I never got too into Fault yet yet, I say,
because I plan on getting.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Into it eventually. I know it's one of the one
of the greatest, you know, franchises.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Part Part three I think is a good one to
get into because it's good that one is for p
S three, I think, Yeah, but if you go back
to that one, that's one of my favorite stories. But yeah,
so then what are other friends that you're into?
Speaker 6 (22:18):
What are just like a persona Final Fantasy?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
A lot of the Japanese ones I really like, uh,
Eldin Ring obviously can't go wrong with the Souls games.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I want to. I want to.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Those are very hard.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
It was very hard, just a little bit every like,
like I said, any I try to get any new
new new releases coming out and stuff, or I get
really big into.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I'm like a casual gamer. Like I'll get super into
a game for like a few months and then I
won't touch my system for like honestly sometimes a year.
I use it mostly play four K movies, That's what
I use.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
But play.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, I'm a guy who like I love boxing, you know,
my favorite sports, the only sport I really care about.
But well, ronn it. I can talk me to Gains,
I can talk Star Wars and I hear you're into
you said, Cargoons, You're into Magic the Gathering.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah, big, big into Magic the Gathering. I go to.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
There's a card shop, like not even a light light
down the street from me. So like I'm there Mondays
and thursdays of their Magic Night Saga head over there
and play Guard games over there with So made a
bunch of friends over there.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
They actually went to my last fight too, a lot
of the guys from the shop. So they had a
good time over there too.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It was a good time. They're good friends.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Now nice, Okay, Now I gotta know, So, what's that like,
because you know, I'm a nerd to like I said,
I I do. I do this podcast and then I'm
a host on our guest rather on my friends Star
Wars podcast from time to time. So what's it like
for your magic gathering friends to show up to boxing?
Are they like? Is it cool? And they kind to
feel out of place? You know what?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
They loved it because obviously it is different. They are
a little out of place, but that's what makes it
so exciting too, I feel like and yeah, they had
a great time. They showed up to the after party too.
They're excited to talk to me about it, and you
know they had a good time.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
There's there's a good good amount of them too, so
they're all having fun together.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Do you want to give a shout out to the
car shop here? You know support the is a local business.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, shout outs to Northern Valley Games. I've been in there.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
You know, that's where I first got my first magic
deck from. And they've they've been, you know, help me
out the whole trip when I was learning magic.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
North Valley Games. Is that in in Phoenix or there's
a location.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
In Phoenix and there's a there's a location of me, so.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Games, I'll check them out. I go to Phoenix pretty
pretty often. That was there a couple of weekends ago
for a concert, So I'll definitely check them out and
we'll see, yeah, pick up some stuff. So uh bringing
it back to boxing and James, and you got something
because I got something here for you.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So I do. I want to For the fans that
don't know, they just tune on the TV and so
you walk out the ring, handle business and go home.
But can you give us behind the scenes of a
fight day, day of a fight, waking up to getting
to the arena, can you give us an in depth
detail of that whole day?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I usually wake up in the mornings, my dad will
go to first watch, get a good breakfast. I like
a big breakfast before my fight, durd of the day
of my fight. Like a big breakfast but healthy, easily digestible.
I'll have like a Greek yogurt with a bunch of
like granola fruits and stuff. And then I'll have a
(25:27):
oatmeal too with that decent size too, all of that
and then they'll get me nice and.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Full and then I just eat light the rest of
the day until the fight.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Pretty much.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
But yeah, we'll go to have a big breakfast over there,
and I come back home, I take a nap, I
sleep relax, you know. I try to sleep and take
a long as long as of a nap as possible.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Before the fight.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
We usually show up to the venue at like four
or five. We get there, we get checked up by
the doctor in the back, all that fun stuff, and
then I'm just chilling in the dressing room until the fight.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Really, it's really just a relaxed day and nothing crazy.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Apps. Try to stay focused, try to see opt in.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I when I was doing my peak training, I was like, wait,
weighing food, like had a little weight scale and everything that.
I was like, it's wild. I've never done anything like that.
It was kind of it was kind of an experiment,
but to see like how hardcore I could get into it. Uh,
Like I said, I fluctuated, you know, the the like
the Facebook meme, the thing that the grand piece put
up there. It's like nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Okay, Yeah,
(26:36):
no one thing, bro like that. I agree, no one thing.
But there's a lot of shit that you could eat
a lot.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Yeah, I have a big sweet tooth.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
So dieting is one of the hardest things for me
because I just I love chocolate.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Okay, do you have a cheat day? Is that depends.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Depends you know, it depends on my on my weight
at the time. You know, I just feel it out
for how I feel like if if I'm not, if
i'm I don't have room for a cheat little snack
or something, I won't I won't take it. But if
you know, if I'm doing good on weight this week
or whatever, I'll have like a little chocolate bar or
cookie or something nice.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Great, So probably my last one. But Jameson please jump
in so curious you said you don't really think about
the future. It's you know, one fight at a time.
I mean, I'm not probably I'm gonna assume that you
always think about wanting to be a champ, Like you said,
you know, want to bring about But if there was
a call for somebody to cancel the call, is there
one name that you're like, I want to take that guy,
(27:32):
that guy I want to I want to if I
think and I could bring him down. Do you have
a name?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
There's no one name, but I will right now if
you give me that call anybody at a one hundred
and forty pound way class, we're taking that fight, anyone
taking that fight, anybody, anybody.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I appreciate that, you know. It's something so Jamis and
I here on this show, we we critique the boxing
industry and the scene a lot, but it's because we
love it. It's because we we love the sport and
want it to be better. One common complaint I think
this comes up is that the big h aren't fighting
often enough. So I we really appreciate you saying you
fight three times a year. The biggest names, you know,
they should be fighting more than once a year. Some
(28:07):
guys don't even do that. So but what also, but
here's the thing. You take a big name, you bring
a bill back, are you gonna chill? Are you gonna
be like all right, you know I can wait another
year or two for a fight, or are you gonna
you feel like you're gonna stick to that schedule? Like
I still want more, I'm still hungry. I'm gonna go
out and get it.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
I feel like at least owe it to my supporters
and my fans to bring at least one or two
fights a year, even after I havingable.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Title okay, okay, I'm shooting for two fights a year. Still.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I love that you said if I get a work
world You didn't say if I get a world title.
You said even after I get a world title. So
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And that's that's awesome, Jims. You got anything else here?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
For a man? I got one last one dream opponent past,
future present. Is there that one opponent where you either
wish you could have fought from yes for a year,
or wish you could fight going forward that you've always
dreamt about or always thought about just in general.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Hmmm, let's see one forty.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I mean, I think Marquez would be just good to
learn off of for me my style. But I feel
like you just can't go wrong with with Mayweather. I mean,
it will be a frustrating fight. I hate fighting them,
but you'll learn so much off that fight that you
know it'll just improve me by you know, so much.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
So I feel like I would I would love to fight.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Mayweather iron iron sharp AND's iron. Yeah, okay, just to
quick fall up on that. So you said a frustrating fight,
you learned a lot, but do you think you could
beat them in your prime? And you know, it's prime.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
My prime, may other's prime all to see.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I like I said, I think I could beat anybody
right now, but uh, he's one. He's one of the legends,
one of the greatest of all time. And you know
everybody who said, you know, they've had that that they
oh I got I got an answer for him.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I got him. They never came out on top.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
So well, you know, one thing I always say, not
just in boxing, but in life, is that we learn
more from our losses than we do from our wins.
So you know, I think, can't be can't be afraid
to lose no matter what.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I love that you said earlier, even inspiring, even you
you know, seasoned train still get your ass kicked right
from time to time, Like, hey, it happens. So but
here's the thing about boxing that I love. Boxers not
just have to be strong, but they'd be brave and
they can't be scared of of a loss, right, what
do you think?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Definitely that's the only way you learn taking risks, and
if you can, you know, come out on top on
all those risks that you're taking, you're just gonna get
so much better off of it.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Awesome, awesome, Well, treating won't take up more of your
time because I know you've got to train or also
get back on the on the PS five. But please
tell the people when your next fight is and uh
we're when and where it's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
April nineteenth at the Celebrity Theater under the Iron Boy Card.
I'm excited to fight, can't wait to see there.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Hell yeah? And where can people find you on social media?
Do you have Instagram? Twitter?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Like?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
What's your Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:12):
You find me on Instagram at trainy eight to a
spinsram training eight a as in training.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Oh, Chue, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah great, all right, follow training, get tickets to the
Celebrity Theater. Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Any sponsors that you want to shout out or anyone
you want to shut out before you head on out.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's all my sponsors.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
They're always, you know, showing up, especially Franco, my dad's friend.
You know, he's one of our biggest sponsors. I'm gonna
shout him out by name though this time because he's.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Been happening out a lot.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I appreciate him and then everything he does for us.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Hell yeah, Franco, thank you for helping out with Training's
career because he brought us to this show and we
really appreciate it. Thank you for being on the Mixed
Company Podcast, Treating. We are appreciate you. You have no idea
and we'd love to have you back and talk about
how the fights went after the fact. If that's cool
with you, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I'm always done.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Absolutely. Good luck, good luck, good luck to Treating, good
luck to Treaty. And I'm gonna finish up really quick
here in the Mixed Company Podcast. Jamis the man. That
was a great interview. Did you like that? That was amazing?
I was mad.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I did not wake up thinking we were gonna have
that interview. I was prepared for anything.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's funny how these things do happen, but I'm glad
it did happen. It's very good to find a young
fighter that's focused. We always come across a lot of
guys that are on BS. I said, I'm not here
for twenty years, so I've seen and heard all kinds
of different stories about all the different type of people. I've heard
stories about Browner, her stories about Sean Porter, which are
(32:46):
like opposite, you know what I mean. So you you
hear you know, you hear and see a lot of
different things, and not.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Everybody comes out here focused like I've seen. You're right
out here. You know, people get a.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
House out here, they train out here, but they can't
stay out casino or there. Camp, can't stay out in trouble.
So it's good to see like Pop's got things straight,
you know, boxing that stuff straight. No friction in the camp,
No no random stories about women I crazy going on.
It's good to see like, all right, the main thing
(33:17):
is the main thing, and we don't have that a
whole lot anymore.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Now. I really appreciate that question from me. I guess
it's something I never really considered that. You know. Yeah,
for me, Vegas is like a giant playground. But I
don't know, I guess in my mind kind of like
you said, you know, think of it like this. Think
about it.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
If you had millions of dollars in your account, you
can do whatever you always.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
There's no one that can really stop you, and you
can get whatever you want at any time. And this
is Vegas, so there's no limits on whatever you want.
If you want a five star dinner at two am.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
It gets done.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
If you want three women that look a certain way,
it gets found. If you want drugs, it gets found.
If you want liquor, it gets brought to you. So
whatever your heart desires, it gets brought to you.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
That's yeah. No, I mean you're absolutely right, And I
am aware of that in concept, in theory of course,
because I don't I wouldn't be able to roll like that.
But yeah, I guess in my mind, I'm like, well, yeah,
if you're in Vegas, if you're a big, big name fighter,
you're gonna be on pay per view, HBO whatever, like
you know, you're there to do the thing and you're
not gonna let yourself get sidetracked. But that's not true.
That's actually it's human nature to you know, to just
(34:32):
like I said, anything you want, anytime. How it's so
how can you say no to that? But I think
Treey's got a good head on his shoulders. You know,
family is involved, and like you said, you know, for him,
especially if he fucked this up, you know, he's right
back where he was broke, you know, not having trouble
finding housing, all that stuff, And I'm sure he doesn't
want to go back to that, So.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He ain't going back to the way he sound, and he
ain't going back to that, so he gonna be all right.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, No, it's really cool getting not just a profighter,
a profighter from Arizona. You know I'm representing here.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Arizona is the face of Phoenix box Ship, the face
of Arizona Boxing, which.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Absolutely, you know that that was really cool and you know,
thank him. I'd like to thank him. I think his promoter,
Emily Gurdin, for setting that up for us. And yeah,
and the other fighters that want to come on the show.
We're not going to come at you like, hey, well
you fucking you know you should be doing this, you
should be doing this, blah blah blah. No, no, no,
we're here to learn from y'all, and we want the
audience to learn from y'all as well.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, we want to promote the good part of boxing.
The other stuff I don't care about. I don't care
about any of the stuff that gets clicks. I want
to promote the good stuff, the stuff that boxing fans
double upon and be like, I want to learn more
about this person. That's what we want to create here.
We're not trying to create anything pieces or any clickbased stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
We want people to do a deep.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Dive on everyone that we interview, everyone that we come across,
and that's what we're up.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
That's what we're trying to do here. Absolutely so cool. Well,
I think that's a pretty good for today's episode. Jamison,
Where can people find you on social media? At the
Jamison on Twitter? That's probably the best place.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I don't really do Instagram when it comes to people,
but on Twitter probably the best place.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
But nah, I'll be watching fights.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Man, got ESPN Plus, got Paramount Plus, got Netflix, Amazon,
the Zone or Dazen whatever it's called. Got a firestick.
You know the other things that come through the dms
and the emails. Were not going to talk about them.
But yeah, we're gonna watch the fight. So there's a
fight home. We're gonna find a way to watch it.
Got enough TVs to do so, so we're gonna find
a way.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Absolutely, And for any of your first time listeners, you know,
I started off as a craft beer blogger. I love boxing.
I love watching it. It's my favorite sport. But I've never
said I'm an expert. I would never say that Jamison
is a boxing expert. So I want to learn more
about the sport, about the industry. If you're a listener
that has any questions about the sport, about technique, anything
that give us a shout, you know, reach out to
(36:57):
Jamison on Twitter, I'm on Instagram and blue Sky as
the Classy Alcoholic. The podcast has its own Twitter account
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(37:18):
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April twenty fourth Formsfwigo from the boxing World. Thank you
(37:39):
so much for Trini Ochoa, Thank you so much for listening. Goodnight,
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