April 24, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamieson Welsh and The Classy Alcoholic were finally able to catch up with veteran boxing promoter Emily Girten for today's episode! The trio discussed her experiences within the industry, some of her latest events - including Trini Ochoa's big win - as well as which upcoming fighters to keep an eye out for and plenty more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
In this corner standing it six foot five weight class
unknown hailing from Sin City, Las Vegas, Jamison Welch and
in this corner standing it five foot nine Wayne Town
with six wins, three.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Losses, two arrests, four late.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Payments on student loans and two total painkruptcies hits the
Classy I'll go home.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
All right.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Welcome back to another edition of the Mixed Company Podcast.
Of course, I'm one of your hosts, Jamison Welsh, and
as always I am joined by the classy alcoholic Classy.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Man, Jameson? I gotta be honest, I'm still writing high
from our previous episode, number thirteen. If you haven't listened
to that one, please go back and check it out.
We interviewed professional fighter Trinio Choa, also known as the
face of Phoenix Boxing, and it was awesome. It was awesome.
So that full episode actually is also available on YouTube
now under nineteen Media groups account, So please go to
YouTube dot com slash at nineteen Media Group find the
(01:07):
playlist for the Mixed Company Podcast to watch. Steward Thing.
Shout out to nineteen Media not just for having us
on their network, but also letting us ride their coattails
on YouTube. But today we are here recording episode fourteen,
and we have yet another special guest. She's the woman
who actually made our last interview with Treeny possible. We
meant to have her on as our first guest, but
(01:28):
due to some technical difficulties let's call it, let's blame.
Let's play Google drive data, Let's play Google Drive, let's
play Bye Cloud. We're putting me on the last I
said it before I give you our Yeah, I didn't
hit record. Sorry. One of our your hosts is a professional.
One is a drunken idiot just pushing button's like so,
(01:49):
but yeah, but we're making up for it for it today.
So this woman works in pr and promotion for the
boxing world. So let's not delay. Let's get her out here.
Let's welcome to the ring. Emily Gerd please put your
hands together. Everybody. Hi Emily. Yay.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
How's it going.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Going great? Now that you're here and we're actually recording
this time? So we apologize. I apologize sorry. I did
feel better once Jamis and our producer both said that
it happened to them before, so I was like, all right,
so it happened. Happens yeah, and we won't make you
repeat yourself too too much because we have a lot
(02:27):
of questions for you. But the first thing, please tell
the folks out there what exactly do you do? I
said PR promotion, but I don't know what it means
on the ground. Please tell us what is your job
in the boxing world.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I do a lot of different things.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I do PR for David Benavidez, for Blue Debella and
several Lakes small club promotions. And I also do event
operational support, so things like licensing and medicals and getting
the to the event, getting a doctor to the event,
(03:03):
dealing with the commission, dealing with the venue, just all
of those pieces that go into putting on an event.
I kind of manage a lot of that. I do
some matchmaking, though I try not to because it sucks.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So yeah, So at the end of March you had
an event promoting called bralin the Barrio in Phoenix, and
then a weekend or two ago there was one of
your fighters, Genie at Iron Boy Boxing and Phoenix as well.
So do you get a break in between these events
or is it always go go go, Like what's your
life like in between boxing events?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
No, it's very busy because so that fight when it
was here in Phoenix, it takes a lot of time
because I live here, so I invest a little more
time in it just naturally, just because I'm here and
I'm very close to the promotion. And so that show
took a lot of time. And actually last Saturday or
last week, I had a show that I was helping
(03:58):
with PR for What's That Promotions in California on Thursday,
and then on Saturday, I had an MMA show that
I was running in Fargo and a boxing event in
Chicago that I had done all the paperwork in medicals
and budget and all of that for, and Trainy also
fought that day. So the three week ben really really intense.
(04:22):
So I've been kind of like recouping the last couple
of days. Though I have another event May tenth in Seattle,
and MMA event that I'm doing every you know, all
the medicals and everything for, so I'm working on getting
that stuff done and situated for that show and doing
all of the you know, hiring the staff and vendors
and all of that. And then I have a show
(04:44):
two weeks later in Laughlin, same deal, another MMA show,
and also we have PBC that day, which I do
all of their shuttles and everything, so I'll be managing
transportation for those for that event that same day and
that same week just remotely and June, you know, same
type of thing. I have shows the fourteenth and the
(05:05):
twenty eighth right now, mm May and boxing, so just
it's it doesn't really stop. So the last weeks for
duper intense.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Is there ever a lull? Because you know, me as
a as a spectator, as a boxing fan, I see,
you know, these guys are fighting and then there's like,
you know, six months of non activity, but it sounds
like there's always something to do in between events. Like
do you ever a time where's just like, oh, there's
two weeks with like no fights and nothing going on,
and I'm just gonna put my feet up.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Sure I used to, Yeah, I used to, for sure,
But since I took on World Fighting Championships, they have
so many shows that as soon as we're done with one,
like we just got the show Saturday, like Sunday, I'm
at the airport doing stuff for May tenth because it's
three weeks away or less than three weeks away now, right,
So with WFC getting added to my plate, not really,
(05:57):
there's not really downtime.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'm also doing some like licensing for Top Rank for.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
A couple of their shows as well, So it's just
there's always something so it which is great, I mean.
And then we also recently took on Growdex, which is
a custom bag company and they do they have some
patented products like certain types of bags, and we've taken
over their customer service. So my husband and my nephew
(06:23):
are kind of focusing on that part of the business.
And you know, we're just doing some different things. So
it's always busy and you know, trying to stay as
busy as possible while still meeting our customers expectations as
our goals right now, So.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm assuming you mean heavy bags like punching bags and
not like right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So you
do all these events, you do all this stuff for them,
and you've been obviously doing this for a long time.
Is there Is it pretty by the numbers or is
there always something coming up with Every event has its
own difficulty or are you like, I know what I'm doing,
(06:58):
it's like buy the book now, or am I totally off.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
The Markhe No, every event has its own insanity, Like
every event, something happens that you're like, how is this
even happening right now? Which last Saturday, we had a
fighter that kept disappearing, like he checked.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
In fire a fire fighter, A fighter, okay.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Like a MMA fighter he was.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
He just kept disappearing like he he checked in for
the meeting at four and then disappeared. So where he's
the third fight And I'm calling him and he's like,
I'm like where are He's like him in my room.
I said, what are you doing? He's like, I'm getting
a massage. I'm like, you're the third fight. He goes, oh,
I thought I was third from the end.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
I'm like, so you just left?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Like so then he comes back and then he gives
his girlfriend his phone, so we're like, he disappears again.
So I call his phone and his girlfriend answered she
has no idea where he is, and then there's like
this mad search for his mouthpiece. It was just like
really insane, like to the point where like when he's
walked walking out to the ring, he disappeared again and
(08:01):
they had to go find him. So just something happens
every show. But I got to meet Caleb Truax for
the first time at that show. So that was nice
because we've been friends a long time.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Okay, okay, cool, So well, now I got to ask
specifically about issues with fighters like this. You know, if
something happens and the fight's about to come on, what happened?
Do you have any leeguway or is it one of
those like like a karate kid, like you got to
get back to the mat in like five minutes or
you're disqualified? Can you stretch that out? Do you have
any tips of tricks or what happens?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I don't know what would have happened, Like if he
hadn't shown up, would have obviously skipped his fight. I'd
like to think that we would try to get him
slotted back in. I don't know all the commission, like
when they do their stuff, it's always all very particular.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
They all do it differently.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
They've always got their like that order is really important
because they've got the officials assigned appropriately. So I don't
know if they'd let us like swing it to the end.
I'd like to think they would. I mean, if they didn't,
it would just be the bouts off. And if it
were pro about the you know, the one guy would
have to get paid, I would think, but this was
(09:07):
an amateur about and thankfully the guy did show up
at the last minute and went in and thought.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You didn't have to find an answer to that question.
I guess this is a good no. I love stuff.
I love behind the scenes stuff, especially for a sport
I love, you know. I usually typically I don't care
about what happens outside of the ring. With the show,
I'm working a lot more and hearing from people involved
is just just so cool. And yeah, maybe I say cool,
it might not be cool to you. Maybe you're like son.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Of a bitch, but no, part of the job, like
sometimes it sucks, like sometimes things go wrong. It actually
does suck, you know, like it's I don't know, like
I've had some tough shows, of course, but I mean, oh,
I just like cringing thinking of a few tough situations.
But you know, most of this stuff, by the end
(09:56):
of the night, you're like, just everything's just insane. So
this is expect did in this game, and it's just crazy.
There's always nutty.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
A follow up question on that, and I'll throw out
the jamison to not monopolize the conversation, But what what
makes you love it? What makes you keep going? What
makes it worth it? Is it that you love the sport,
you love working with the fighters, Like what about because
I've had jobs where it's just like it's crazy, But
at the end of the day, I'm like, you know what,
I'm going back tomorrow because this that Like, what's what's
your thing that keeps you going?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Well? I love Okay, first and foremost, I love my lifestyle.
I love that I have the freedom to do whatever
I want, you know, like if I don't want to
get up and work, I don't do that. I mean
I have to, but you know what I mean like flexibility.
I don't have to take my kids with me on
the road, and I get to take time off when
(10:50):
I need to spend time with my kids, and I'm
able to be at all my son's field trips and
all that stuff. So that's those things and just being
at home and again, just that freedom, that's to me,
that is very motivating. And having a lifestyle that I
want to live in terms of, you know, financially, is
(11:10):
very motivating for me. So yes, the money, obviously that
was a very long time coming.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
So there were many years where that wasn't the case.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
But sure and then honestly, like I love the people
I work with, Like I really enjoy Like I worked
with Bobby Hits last week.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
He's like my favorite.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Like he's he's hilarious, he's he's fun, he's he takes
good care of us, likes he's a good dude, and
and he.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Work with these people.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
And it's not an orthodox environment, right, like you're not.
I mean, it is a business, right, you have to
treat it like a business. It's just a I can't
I guess I can't explain it very well. I just
really enjoy the people I work with. All the folks
at PBC are amazing, all my clients, you know. I mean,
I just I really enjoyed the people I work with,
and I enjoy working with the fighters, and I enjoy
(12:01):
being around.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
People who are They're motivating.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It's motivating to be around pro athletes all the time
because you see the sacrifices they make and it definitely,
like you know, it's inspiring and getting to tell some
of their stories.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
True, honor, No, you explained it perfectly. I don't know
what you mean. You don't know how to explained.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I love what you're putting down. It all makes sense
and it's great, So Jameson, toss it over to you please.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, definitely appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And what advice would you give someone come into the
promotion game if they have no experience? Like, what advice
would you give someone if they were trying to kind
of follow on your shoes in a way?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I would. I'll tell you what I did, and I
I mean I obviously was working with Jose Benavidez Junior
at the beginning, so it was easy to start to
make contacts because people wanted to talk to him.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
So but I also offer to work.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
For free for a lot of people for a long
time to make contacts and get my feet wet and
you know, get to know people in the business. So
I was able, I mean because of that, I was
able to like meet people like Cameron Duncan, who mentored
me for years and had you know, thirty five world
champions and guys that are still going to become world champions,
(13:22):
you know, or are there you know, in making contacts
in the PR world where I could call it like
Rachel Charles and say, hey, Rachel, how do I deal
with this kind of situation? You know? And spending that
time and just delivering what I could for people so
that I could learn from them and the situations would
(13:45):
be equitable. Right, So I would say that that was
that's what I did. It worked, I mean, but I
mean we struggled mightily for a long, long, long time.
So I mean, and there were some limitations I had
(14:05):
that I didn't want to travel a lot, and now
I travel a lot. But so I may have, you know,
been able to be more solvent more quickly if I
were in a position I just enjoyed being home with
my family.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So okay, okay, absolutely, So we invited you on back
in March was Women's History month, and I was curious
about it. We didn't ask this back then, but you know,
we were a big fan of women's boxing here. We
talk about it a lot. But there are a lot
of dudes out there who think boxing combat sports are
just very macho, very manly, just for dudes, which ridiculous.
(14:40):
We're calling it out right now. We don't agree with that.
But what's it like for you being a woman in
this world? You know, you ever have people who come
up with the hell are you who? Why are you
talking to me? Where are you in charge? Of anything,
you know, is that your experience.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I mean there's been a couple of times, for sure.
I mean, like, but it's so limited, Like most people
are very respectful, and I mean once it's more of
a familiar anything. Once people see you over and over
and over again, and they they see okay, they're they're
around here working and they're not you know, bothering anybody,
and you know, people are pretty pretty open. I feel
like more doors early on, especially open because of a moment.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
But I don't I don't think it's been living for me, thankfully.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I I there's only been like one or two, like
two super inappropriate comments. I mean, I feel for the
girls that are like, you know, really pretty and all
of that.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
So it's hard. I think it's hard in a lot.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Of ways to be taken seriously as a woman if
you put effort into your appearance and you look beautiful,
and I think people automatically like shit on you as
a woman, and I think that's that's really garbage. So
I've seen it, you know, I've seen it happen. I mean,
and that's that's disappointing. But I don't know for me
(15:58):
personally though, I haven't really dot with any adversity in
that regard. I've been really lucky.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
No, that's good, and really remember where we're coming from.
You know, you're living this in this world backstage, I'm
looking at Facebook and Instagram comments, which are if they
made those illegal, I'd be fine with it. I wouldn't
even be sad. So so it's good to know that
that doesn't necessarily go.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
People don't bother me. But again, I'm not. I don't
stand out, and I try not to stand out. I
kind of stay behind the scenes as much as possible. Now,
some of the women that are not as behind the scenes,
I think they get a lot of bullshit and deal
with a lot of bullshit, and I think that's unfortunate
because they're trying to do their job and they're trying
to succeed, just like the men are, and the men
don't have to deal with that. So I definitely see
(16:39):
it happening and it sucks, and you know.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Sure, absolutely, especially the sports commentators. I'm assuming you know,
women that out there and guys are like, you know,
bo blah blah blah, shut up idiots.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah, No, people are really respectful towards me. I
think it's just because, I mean, especially here in Arizona.
You know, he knows me from various activities and stuff,
so people are really nice to me.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
For now on that type place.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Guy, quick question, you mentioned Arizona. It's almost like a
hitting gym when it comes to the boxing. When people
think about boxing on the West coast, they think of Vegas, La,
even sometimes Noracal, But Arizona's almost like a sleeping giant
that's starting to rise a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Can you go in about that? Where do you see
that going in the future.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
We got some amazing clubs, and just recently, I feel
like there's been a big uptick in the number of
amateur events happening, So I think we're gonna see a
lot more kids coming out of the system here and
getting into tournaments and stuff. We we got new you
know folks overseeing USA boxing in Arizona in the last
(17:49):
couple of years, and I think that that change was
probably a good thing for the state and for boxing
in Arizona because again, you see a lot more kids
are competing you know, locally, nationally, regionally, So I'd love
to see that.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
I think that's you know, moving.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Forward, that's just gonna really put us on the map
because we've got some good, good fighters, good gyms, good teams,
good people running things out here, and you know, everybody
is pretty good about working together and putting on these shows.
And I just think there's a lot more opportunity all
of a sudden in the last few years with amateurs,
and I'm so happy for that. And then on the
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pro side, you know, you still have a few promoters
here doing pro shows. You know, it's tough here to
do pro events. You know, the ticket sales are hard,
so because you are competing with some of the big
you know sports, all of the big sports. Right in hockey,
we lost hockey, but we have everything else and so
(18:51):
but you know, I think there, I think we're definitely
headed in the right direction. I think you're going to
continue to see good talent. I think people are starting
to come here because there's good coaches here, good gym
and you know, I think I think you'll be seeing
more and more out of here.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Now, what is it going to take for Phoenix, parts
of other parts of Arizona, et cetera, et cetera, to
become one of the bigger markets in boxing going forward.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I mean, I think already we're seeing a lot of
events coming here and they're doing well even when the
guys aren't from here. So I think if these big
promoters continue to come here and continue to showcase some
of the same names and getting the locals behind them
and then giving opportunities to locals on the card, I
think would be instrumental. I'd like to see much more
(19:40):
of that, Like, you know, depending on the promoters, some
put you know, local guys on, some don't, and I
think it's just a nice it's a nice way to
grow these prospects here in Arizona, or do a smaller show,
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
There's different there's different things you can do, but that's
one thing. And you know, the media, I'd love to
see the media covering the local media covering boxing a
little better. I mean, they do it a little bit,
but it's you know, it's there's a lot here and
they don't cover a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
So got you Is.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It just that there's not enough of it? Sorry Jamison,
but what's the issue with the local media coverage.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Is just well they don't know, like they don't know
when it's topped, Like you know, you have PR people,
so only one of the local promoters as a PR
person or doesn't anymore because I just left. So it's
partially a matter of just not having the people to
pitch the stories and get word out and develop those relationships.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Go ahead, Jameson, Sorry, I was just gonna ask.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
When it comes to the locations, obviously you live in Arizona,
you're very comfortable with that.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Is there another place you like covering events or.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Throwing events at when it comes to promoting and you know,
putting on events and uh, other events are easy work with.
I know someplaces are difficult due to taxes, due to
rules and all that.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Other places that are better or easier, like Arizona is.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I mean Illinois is pretty similar in terms of what
they require.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
They have one difference.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
It's kind of significant that your e exam has to
be by an optalmologist, which complicates getting them.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
But that's a whole little thing.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
But in general, Illinois kind of similar in how they
approve abouts and everything. So and I've worked there for
like seven years with with Bobby Hits, so I really
enjoy working with those fighters. I've got to know a
lot of them over the years, and.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
I like seeing them.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Like one Gara's fighting, you know, he was a Chicago fighter,
is a Chicago fighter. He's gonna fight on a top
break show coming up here, and you know, just stuff
like that. So I enjoy working in Chicago. That was
That's probably my favorite place. And I'm getting to know
some of these places with WFC where we're going back again.
So we're going to Portland again. Just went in February.
(22:01):
We're going in June or June, So I'm going to
see some of the same people on a you know,
probably developed some of those same types of relationships, but
I'm just now kind of getting to know the different
casinos and communities that he works with. But certainly like
the big shows, like working with some of the same people,
like the same teams is awesome. Like I love seeing
(22:23):
you know, every show, every PBC and TGB show, I
see some of the same folks, you know teams, and
you know, even if the fighters are different, the teams
are the same. So that's that's really nice. Just getting
to know everybody cool.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Right, So you introduced us to Trenio show, who was amazing,
and we're really thank you for that. We're so happy
to have him on the on the show. Are there
any other names that you want people to know, Like
keep an eye on this young guy, this guy, even
if they're not Arizona based, Like who do we need
to see the up and rising talent that we're that
we're going to see on pay per view in five years.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I just signed I just signed Brian Miranda.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Uh. He goes by red or Rojo. Uh. He's from
here in Phoenix. He's four oh with four knocked out.
I believe he's gonna fight July fifth in Phoenix as well.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
He's a very.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Heavy handed, talented kid. He's kind of short, but he's
he's so strong. I mean, he's so heavy handed. I'll
send you guys his video so you have it. But
he's he's very, very talented and I'm very excited to
see how he does now that he's going to be
active on a regular basis because he was off for
a year or two with his contract. Let's see. That's
(23:42):
that's definitely one to watch. And then you know, Jose
Senior has got a couple of fighters. Daniel Blancos, I
don't know if you are familiar with him, but he's
been fighting on the PBC events and he's he's uh,
he's definitely you know, good to watch at sixty eight.
I believe it's sixty eight. I'm blinking right now. We
(24:05):
have Danny Barrios, who's kind of the main attraction at
Del Soul Boxing.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Uh, he's one twenty two.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
He had he was on a The Zone show with
Matt Trum and had had a really good outing but
lost a close decision. And so we're hoping he gets,
you know, an opportunity at the higher level again because
he came out in his last fight and just really
put it on his opponent who was a tough kid.
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Best Star was his last name, Alexis bass Star, and
he stopped him, I think in the fourth round, and
it was just a really incredible performance. He just you
can see him improving every fight.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So one L is not going to ruin the careers
at least I don't think so. Maybe some of these
fans act like it, but no, really, yeah, don't worry
about blanking like We'll be honest, really just asking so
that we can say, if I years from now, that
name you heard on the Mixed Company podcast first, right,
and shoving faces. No, No, of course that we really
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appreciate that. So speaking out of fighters that you work with,
you know, of course you work with David Benavitez. A
couple of weeks ago the news came out that he
got the WBC belt that won seventy five because he
was turned out for a fight for Dimitribvo. I'm sure
having the belt is like an honor. It's awesome, but
what's the Do you have any sense of the feeling
in the Benavides camp, like, is he bummed about it?
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Is a bittersweet? Do you you know? Is there anything
that you can tell us without you know, speaking out
of school.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I haven't spoken with him on it specifically, but I
know that he's expressed that, you know, of course it's
an honor, and of course he's he's earned that, you know, opportunity,
and you know, he earned that belt in the fight
against Morrell and the fight you know previous to that,
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and he's and of course it's not the way he
wanted to get it. And I think that he still
wants to fight people. I don't think that, you know,
I think he wants to prove that he's the best, just.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Like he has.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
He really is confident, we are confident that he's the best,
and he just wants the opportunity to prove it. And
these guys just don't want to give him the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
And I mean, I think I know.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Why, but you know, it's it's a risk, and you know,
he's he's willing to take that risk. And it's really
you know, refreshing as a fan and as his friend,
and you know, I really hope he gets the opportunity
to show the world that he deserves you know, undisputed.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We we Jamison, I agree, we talked about it. You know,
we're we're fans as well, and yeah, I think he
does deserve a chance. If it takes a little bit longer,
whatever it is, my man has earned the chance. So
I definitely am with you on that. Do you do
you get any sense of like anybody else he might
fight in the meantime or is that not your your area?
Do you just kind of like promote whatever are.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Yeah, that's sorry, not my above my pay grade.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, that's not your Bailey wick as the as as
College of US College Boys say, No, we appreciate the inside.
Like I said, love behind the scenes stuff, James, and
I got something else, Jamison, you want to.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Jump in or you get yes, I do so. You
mentioned you also put on MMA events you as well.
Is there any distinct differences between the boxing events and
the MMA events by Champ? Just out of curiosity, certainly.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to events,
Like I'm still kind of getting the hang of like
the different like because there's when you do an MMA show,
it's not often just MMA. It's way time kickboxing too,
So I'm always like, okay, the weight classes are a
little different, you know, the rounds are three two minutes
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or three three minute and it could be different. It
could be five minutes. Like I don't really I haven't
gotten all that down yet. It's just really I feel
so adequate because of my knowledge of boxing is so
thorough in that regard, and then an MMA I'm just
like an idiot. Same with like the gloves, I'm like, okay,
do they need shin guards?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Don't they need you know?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
So it's just kind of getting that stuff. I'm still
working on it. The fighters and the teens are really
different than boxing.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I don't know how I wish I could give you
some specifics.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I feel like MMA fighters, like there's certain expectations that
boxers have out of an event, and certain expectations and
MMA fighters have at an event. Like an MA fighter
wouldn't take it for granted that they'd have a hotel room,
whereas a boxer would. So there's some differences like that
that I'm learning, you know, like, of course they're going
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to want a hotel because I'm used to boxing, you know,
and then they're not expecting it because it's not part
of the culture of MMA. So there's a lot of
little things like that that I'm still kind of getting
the hang of. The people are a little different.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Like they're.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Like, going to get medicals is super easy to get
them to do.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
It's it's much easier than boxing really same tests. It's
just easy, Like you just like go get these tests
and then go do them, and they're like, you just
gave them to me.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
You just did them and gave them to me. I
didn't have to harass you.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
From the fighter. So you mean not like in to
the doctor. Okay, interesting?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
In some of the sanctioning's quite a bit different, you know,
because they use like sanctioning organizations that may or may
not be a state commission. So I'm used to dealing
with a little more regulated process, but they're just as stringdent.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
It's just different. So yeah, it's just different kind of
everywhere to go.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
And what about you as a as a viewer, are
you a fan of MMA? There's something that you would watch?
Forget about like you know, working with them, you know,
it's not really your thing.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I'm not going to watch it unless i'm working almost
for sure, Like like Chris Cydeborg I work with her occasionally,
like I would watch her fight because I know her right,
But in general, I don't have any desire to watch it.
I watch it when i'm working and I'm starting to
you know, I certainly appreciate it. I certainly appreciate the
athleticism and the fact that they have to train and
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be proficient in all these different disciplines and they take
a lot of abuse to their bodies and training and competing.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
So much respect for those guys.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
It's just not a sport that I enjoy watching in
the same way that I enjoy boxing.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
That's so interesting because I feel the exact same way.
I don't know what it is. I feel like maybe
I should go back to grad school so I could
keep ignoring my student loans and do some kind of
research on the difference between the mindset of a boxing
fan and an m A fan. Some people just say, like,
I like fights and whatever. That's cool, that's awesome, But
I don't know. There's Jamison and I we don't watch
We've talked about how we don't watch MMA, and I
can't tell you what it is. I will say part
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of me is jealousy because I've taken boxing lessons, but
I'm not flexible, so I can't kick. So I'm like,
damn you, I hate that they can kick it. I
can't do that for shit.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
So there's that there's a big time crossover with boxing
fans and you know pro wrestling fans too, right, And
I don't know if that's true for MMA fans too.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's yeah, it's it's such a phenomenon. Maybe we'll do
like a whole show where we just discuss and talk
to MMA fans and go out there and get interviews.
I don't know. It's something something I've been thinking about
for like years now. Is why you if I'm out
at a bar and it's playing like great, I'll watch it,
but I'm not even invested. I don't. I don't feel
it in my heart, like when I'm watching boxers, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Yeah, Like, I could watch any boxing and find something
to annoy about it. But I'll enjoy an MMA fight
if I know the people fighting. So I kind of
enjoy our fights with WFC. But I'm okay to sit
out and do tickets as well. I don't get sad
about missing the fights.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's so interesting. Yeah, well we'll have to explore that
some more, but okay, cool pivoting a little bit. So
you mentioned you know you have kids, You're a family woman.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I think boxing is the coolest thing in the world,
and if I had a relative or somebody that was
involved in the boxing world, I'd be thrilled. But also,
we know kids never think their parents are cool. I
was curious, like, your kids think that you're awesome because
you work in comment sports that they're like, yeah, whatever,
my mom does their you know, laid stuff whatever, not
at all.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
They're not. No, I don't think that's impressive to them
at all.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
They'd probably be impressed if I had a regular job
because I'd be like, you know, we're stable, but uh yeah, no,
they're and and they've all worked in the business from
one way or another. So including Nikola, I hadn't My
printer doesn't doesn't have the little catcher like for the
pages when they come out, and when I'm printing on
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card stock, it falls out, So I have them stand
over there when I'm doing tickets and hold the card
stock and do stuff on my computer. So every kid
has worked in the business, so they're probably kind of
over it. But you know, they're great kids, and they
you know, they they are good with whatever I'm doing.
But no, they're not like, oh cool, not at all.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
They're like, oh, mom, take me to the fights so
I can see it, like they're just you know, that's
not it's unlike quiet.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Like my son came on his own with his friend's
kind of the same del soul. I saw you at
am I allowed to say that, Yeah, absolutely absolutely. He
came to that show and that was like the first
show he'd been in since he was like fourteen. When
I used to have them working with me. So my
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one daughter would go with me a little more often,
like just she just enjoyed going, but she lives in Greece,
so I never did to see her.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
That's pretty cool, though, I gotta I gotta say, Uh,
if you had to choose between going to your mom
to really cool events or living in Greece, I know
which one I take.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
But yeah, exactly, I'm kidding, right.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So, speaking of the Del Soul events, you know, like
we said, it's a brawl in the bose. I think
you do four times a year, is that correct? M?
Four times or so? Under Decil promotions? Do you ever
have women boxing? You know, I've I've been to one
and I've seen the adverts. It seems to be a
lot of men. Do you women fighters in these?
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Alas at Valerio, Yeah, Alisa at Valerio is signed with
Dulsel and she's I think she's like one hundred and
five or a hundred eight pounds maybe maybe maybe one twelve.
I'm not really sure off him, but she's lovely. She's
I did her pro debut, or did a lot of
pr for her pro debut. She's nineteen and she's actually
a carpenter and she works like on a construction site
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and controls. He's like super expensive robots and she's like
in the Wall Street Journal for this and yeah, super cool.
And then she's also in school for construction man and
then she's a pro boxer, so really cool. You know,
she's really awesome. She's a great interview If you ever
want to talk to her too, Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
We would love to absolutely. Yeah cool. So I got
one more Jamison, anything else you want to jump on?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I am good. She's been amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, So last thing before we let you go. You're
very busy woman. What about some young guy? It was like,
you know, eighteen nineteen, maybe younger fifteen, but who wants
to be a professional fighter? On your side of it
is someone that you know seeing people become professionals, Like,
what advice would you give that they want to see
themselves on a pay per view someday on HBO or.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
If that's what you want to do, you need to
just make sure you dedicate yourself to it fully.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
You can't. You can't mess around.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
So this is life and death, Like you could literally
die if you're not properly prepared. So if you love
your mom and you love your sisters and your brothers
and your friends, don't get into it unless you're willing
to dedicate yourself properly, both on the dieting and training end,
because if you don't dedicate yourself properly, you could get
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hurt and nobody else that.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
So and protect yourself at all times inside and outside
the way.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Absolutely. Now that is a fabulous answer. We can't thank
you enough for doing this for us. Thank you for
not hating us, for pitting me for me.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Like, couldn't get myself together over multiple days.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
So actually my son like had an allergic reaction and
broke out in hives and we had to take into
urgent care today.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
And I'm like, these guys are gonna kill me if
you don't get back in time.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Also, is this fair to say you sound like you
live a crazy life. I believe your job your life
to see that.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
It's a little mona.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
But hey, you know what, you know what at least
it's not right. Yeah, let's rob Emily. Please tell people
where they can find you social media, any events that
you want to uh to plug. The next brawl in
the bodio, you know when is that happening. It's in
Phoenix for.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
All you that's gonna be July fifth, July fifth is
the next brawl in the barrio.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
That'll be I'm assuming the same. Yeah, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
No, I said, I see, I'll see you there.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
As Oh, okay, you'll see me there.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
So that's July fifth, and I have made ten. We
have m m A in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
May thirty first, we have MMA in Laughlin, and also
obviously we have PBC with Jamal Charlow versus Cornflake and
Caleb Plant versus somebody whose names escape for me right now, no,
and then and then June fourteenth we have boxing back
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in Seattle and June twenty eighth MMA in Portland. So
follow me on at Emily Boxing on Instagram or Twitter
or Facebook, and you know, I keep your boody updated
on what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So awesome. Great. Well, to wrap up, Jamison, where can
people follow you on social media?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
At Twitter at the Jamison always there. I love boxing,
love when we all watch as a family on social media.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
It's great. Even though we don't have those moments anymore,
I used to, but we still have a few, so
it's always good to have.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
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In this corner standing it six foot five weight class
unknown hailing from Sin City, Las Vegas, Jamison Welch and
in this corner standing it five foot nine Wayne Town
with six wins, three.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Losses, two arrests, four late.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Payments on student loans and two total painkruptcies hits the
Classy I'll go home.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
All right.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Welcome back to another edition of the Mixed Company Podcast.
Of course, I'm one of your hosts, Jamison Welsh, and
as always I am joined by the classy alcoholic Classy.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Man, Jameson? I gotta be honest, I'm still writing high
from our previous episode, number thirteen. If you haven't listened
to that one, please go back and check it out.
We interviewed professional fighter Trinio Choa, also known as the
face of Phoenix Boxing, and it was awesome. It was awesome.
So that full episode actually is also available on YouTube
now under nineteen Media groups account, So please go to
YouTube dot com slash at nineteen Media Group find the
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playlist for the Mixed Company Podcast to watch. Steward Thing.
Shout out to nineteen Media not just for having us
on their network, but also letting us ride their coattails
on YouTube. But today we are here recording episode fourteen,
and we have yet another special guest. She's the woman
who actually made our last interview with Treeny possible. We
meant to have her on as our first guest, but
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due to some technical difficulties let's call it, let's blame.
Let's play Google drive data, Let's play Google Drive, let's
play Bye Cloud. We're putting me on the last I
said it before I give you our Yeah, I didn't
hit record. Sorry. One of our your hosts is a professional.
One is a drunken idiot just pushing button's like so,
(01:49):
but yeah, but we're making up for it for it today.
So this woman works in pr and promotion for the
boxing world. So let's not delay. Let's get her out here.
Let's welcome to the ring. Emily Gerd please put your
hands together. Everybody. Hi Emily. Yay.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
How's it going.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Going great? Now that you're here and we're actually recording
this time? So we apologize. I apologize sorry. I did
feel better once Jamis and our producer both said that
it happened to them before, so I was like, all right,
so it happened. Happens yeah, and we won't make you
repeat yourself too too much because we have a lot
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of questions for you. But the first thing, please tell
the folks out there what exactly do you do? I
said PR promotion, but I don't know what it means
on the ground. Please tell us what is your job
in the boxing world.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I do a lot of different things.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I do PR for David Benavidez, for Blue Debella and
several Lakes small club promotions. And I also do event
operational support, so things like licensing and medicals and getting
the to the event, getting a doctor to the event,
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dealing with the commission, dealing with the venue, just all
of those pieces that go into putting on an event.
I kind of manage a lot of that. I do
some matchmaking, though I try not to because it sucks.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So yeah, So at the end of March you had
an event promoting called bralin the Barrio in Phoenix, and
then a weekend or two ago there was one of
your fighters, Genie at Iron Boy Boxing and Phoenix as well.
So do you get a break in between these events
or is it always go go go, Like what's your
life like in between boxing events?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
No, it's very busy because so that fight when it
was here in Phoenix, it takes a lot of time
because I live here, so I invest a little more
time in it just naturally, just because I'm here and
I'm very close to the promotion. And so that show
took a lot of time. And actually last Saturday or
last week, I had a show that I was helping
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with PR for What's That Promotions in California on Thursday,
and then on Saturday, I had an MMA show that
I was running in Fargo and a boxing event in
Chicago that I had done all the paperwork in medicals
and budget and all of that for, and Trainy also
fought that day. So the three week ben really really intense.
(04:22):
So I've been kind of like recouping the last couple
of days. Though I have another event May tenth in Seattle,
and MMA event that I'm doing every you know, all
the medicals and everything for, so I'm working on getting
that stuff done and situated for that show and doing
all of the you know, hiring the staff and vendors
and all of that. And then I have a show
(04:44):
two weeks later in Laughlin, same deal, another MMA show,
and also we have PBC that day, which I do
all of their shuttles and everything, so I'll be managing
transportation for those for that event that same day and
that same week just remotely and June, you know, same
type of thing. I have shows the fourteenth and the
(05:05):
twenty eighth right now, mm May and boxing, so just
it's it doesn't really stop. So the last weeks for
duper intense.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Is there ever a lull? Because you know, me as
a as a spectator, as a boxing fan, I see,
you know, these guys are fighting and then there's like,
you know, six months of non activity, but it sounds
like there's always something to do in between events. Like
do you ever a time where's just like, oh, there's
two weeks with like no fights and nothing going on,
and I'm just gonna put my feet up.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Sure I used to, Yeah, I used to, for sure,
But since I took on World Fighting Championships, they have
so many shows that as soon as we're done with one,
like we just got the show Saturday, like Sunday, I'm
at the airport doing stuff for May tenth because it's
three weeks away or less than three weeks away now, right,
So with WFC getting added to my plate, not really,
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there's not really downtime.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'm also doing some like licensing for Top Rank for.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
A couple of their shows as well, So it's just
there's always something so it which is great, I mean.
And then we also recently took on Growdex, which is
a custom bag company and they do they have some
patented products like certain types of bags, and we've taken
over their customer service. So my husband and my nephew
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are kind of focusing on that part of the business.
And you know, we're just doing some different things. So
it's always busy and you know, trying to stay as
busy as possible while still meeting our customers expectations as
our goals right now, So.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm assuming you mean heavy bags like punching bags and
not like right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So you
do all these events, you do all this stuff for them,
and you've been obviously doing this for a long time.
Is there Is it pretty by the numbers or is
there always something coming up with Every event has its
own difficulty or are you like, I know what I'm doing,
(06:58):
it's like buy the book now, or am I totally off.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
The Markhe No, every event has its own insanity, Like
every event, something happens that you're like, how is this
even happening right now? Which last Saturday, we had a
fighter that kept disappearing, like he checked.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
In fire a fire fighter, A fighter, okay.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Like a MMA fighter he was.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
He just kept disappearing like he he checked in for
the meeting at four and then disappeared. So where he's
the third fight And I'm calling him and he's like,
I'm like where are He's like him in my room.
I said, what are you doing? He's like, I'm getting
a massage. I'm like, you're the third fight. He goes, oh,
I thought I was third from the end.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
I'm like, so you just left?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Like so then he comes back and then he gives
his girlfriend his phone, so we're like, he disappears again.
So I call his phone and his girlfriend answered she
has no idea where he is, and then there's like
this mad search for his mouthpiece. It was just like
really insane, like to the point where like when he's
walked walking out to the ring, he disappeared again and
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they had to go find him. So just something happens
every show. But I got to meet Caleb Truax for
the first time at that show. So that was nice
because we've been friends a long time.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Okay, okay, cool, So well, now I got to ask
specifically about issues with fighters like this. You know, if
something happens and the fight's about to come on, what happened?
Do you have any leeguway or is it one of
those like like a karate kid, like you got to
get back to the mat in like five minutes or
you're disqualified? Can you stretch that out? Do you have
any tips of tricks or what happens?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I don't know what would have happened, Like if he
hadn't shown up, would have obviously skipped his fight. I'd
like to think that we would try to get him
slotted back in. I don't know all the commission, like
when they do their stuff, it's always all very particular.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
They all do it differently.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
They've always got their like that order is really important
because they've got the officials assigned appropriately. So I don't
know if they'd let us like swing it to the end.
I'd like to think they would. I mean, if they didn't,
it would just be the bouts off. And if it
were pro about the you know, the one guy would
have to get paid, I would think, but this was
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an amateur about and thankfully the guy did show up
at the last minute and went in and thought.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You didn't have to find an answer to that question.
I guess this is a good no. I love stuff.
I love behind the scenes stuff, especially for a sport
I love, you know. I usually typically I don't care
about what happens outside of the ring. With the show,
I'm working a lot more and hearing from people involved
is just just so cool. And yeah, maybe I say cool,
it might not be cool to you. Maybe you're like son.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Of a bitch, but no, part of the job, like
sometimes it sucks, like sometimes things go wrong. It actually
does suck, you know, like it's I don't know, like
I've had some tough shows, of course, but I mean, oh,
I just like cringing thinking of a few tough situations.
But you know, most of this stuff, by the end
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of the night, you're like, just everything's just insane. So
this is expect did in this game, and it's just crazy.
There's always nutty.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
A follow up question on that, and I'll throw out
the jamison to not monopolize the conversation, But what what
makes you love it? What makes you keep going? What
makes it worth it? Is it that you love the sport,
you love working with the fighters, Like what about because
I've had jobs where it's just like it's crazy, But
at the end of the day, I'm like, you know what,
I'm going back tomorrow because this that Like, what's what's
your thing that keeps you going?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Well? I love Okay, first and foremost, I love my lifestyle.
I love that I have the freedom to do whatever
I want, you know, like if I don't want to
get up and work, I don't do that. I mean
I have to, but you know what I mean like flexibility.
I don't have to take my kids with me on
the road, and I get to take time off when
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I need to spend time with my kids, and I'm
able to be at all my son's field trips and
all that stuff. So that's those things and just being
at home and again, just that freedom, that's to me,
that is very motivating. And having a lifestyle that I
want to live in terms of, you know, financially, is
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very motivating for me. So yes, the money, obviously that
was a very long time coming.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
So there were many years where that wasn't the case.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
But sure and then honestly, like I love the people
I work with, Like I really enjoy Like I worked
with Bobby Hits last week.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
He's like my favorite.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Like he's he's hilarious, he's he's fun, he's he takes
good care of us, likes he's a good dude, and
and he.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Work with these people.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
And it's not an orthodox environment, right, like you're not.
I mean, it is a business, right, you have to
treat it like a business. It's just a I can't
I guess I can't explain it very well. I just
really enjoy the people I work with. All the folks
at PBC are amazing, all my clients, you know. I mean,
I just I really enjoyed the people I work with,
and I enjoy working with the fighters, and I enjoy
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being around.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
People who are They're motivating.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It's motivating to be around pro athletes all the time
because you see the sacrifices they make and it definitely,
like you know, it's inspiring and getting to tell some
of their stories.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
True, honor, No, you explained it perfectly. I don't know
what you mean. You don't know how to explained.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I love what you're putting down. It all makes sense
and it's great, So Jameson, toss it over to you please.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, definitely appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And what advice would you give someone come into the
promotion game if they have no experience? Like, what advice
would you give someone if they were trying to kind
of follow on your shoes in a way?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I would. I'll tell you what I did, and I
I mean I obviously was working with Jose Benavidez Junior
at the beginning, so it was easy to start to
make contacts because people wanted to talk to him.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
So but I also offer to work.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
For free for a lot of people for a long
time to make contacts and get my feet wet and
you know, get to know people in the business. So
I was able, I mean because of that, I was
able to like meet people like Cameron Duncan, who mentored
me for years and had you know, thirty five world
champions and guys that are still going to become world champions,
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you know, or are there you know, in making contacts
in the PR world where I could call it like
Rachel Charles and say, hey, Rachel, how do I deal
with this kind of situation? You know? And spending that
time and just delivering what I could for people so
that I could learn from them and the situations would
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be equitable. Right, So I would say that that was
that's what I did. It worked, I mean, but I
mean we struggled mightily for a long, long, long time.
So I mean, and there were some limitations I had
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that I didn't want to travel a lot, and now
I travel a lot. But so I may have, you know,
been able to be more solvent more quickly if I
were in a position I just enjoyed being home with
my family.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So okay, okay, absolutely, So we invited you on back
in March was Women's History month, and I was curious
about it. We didn't ask this back then, but you know,
we were a big fan of women's boxing here. We
talk about it a lot. But there are a lot
of dudes out there who think boxing combat sports are
just very macho, very manly, just for dudes, which ridiculous.
(14:40):
We're calling it out right now. We don't agree with that.
But what's it like for you being a woman in
this world? You know, you ever have people who come
up with the hell are you who? Why are you
talking to me? Where are you in charge? Of anything,
you know, is that your experience.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I mean there's been a couple of times, for sure.
I mean, like, but it's so limited, Like most people
are very respectful, and I mean once it's more of
a familiar anything. Once people see you over and over
and over again, and they they see okay, they're they're
around here working and they're not you know, bothering anybody,
and you know, people are pretty pretty open. I feel
like more doors early on, especially open because of a moment.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
But I don't I don't think it's been living for me, thankfully.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I I there's only been like one or two, like
two super inappropriate comments. I mean, I feel for the
girls that are like, you know, really pretty and all
of that.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
So it's hard. I think it's hard in a lot.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Of ways to be taken seriously as a woman if
you put effort into your appearance and you look beautiful,
and I think people automatically like shit on you as
a woman, and I think that's that's really garbage. So
I've seen it, you know, I've seen it happen. I mean,
and that's that's disappointing. But I don't know for me
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personally though, I haven't really dot with any adversity in
that regard. I've been really lucky.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
No, that's good, and really remember where we're coming from.
You know, you're living this in this world backstage, I'm
looking at Facebook and Instagram comments, which are if they
made those illegal, I'd be fine with it. I wouldn't
even be sad. So so it's good to know that
that doesn't necessarily go.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
People don't bother me. But again, I'm not. I don't
stand out, and I try not to stand out. I
kind of stay behind the scenes as much as possible. Now,
some of the women that are not as behind the scenes,
I think they get a lot of bullshit and deal
with a lot of bullshit, and I think that's unfortunate
because they're trying to do their job and they're trying
to succeed, just like the men are, and the men
don't have to deal with that. So I definitely see
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it happening and it sucks, and you know.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Sure, absolutely, especially the sports commentators. I'm assuming you know,
women that out there and guys are like, you know,
bo blah blah blah, shut up idiots.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah, No, people are really respectful towards me. I
think it's just because, I mean, especially here in Arizona.
You know, he knows me from various activities and stuff,
so people are really nice to me.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
For now on that type place.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Guy, quick question, you mentioned Arizona. It's almost like a
hitting gym when it comes to the boxing. When people
think about boxing on the West coast, they think of Vegas, La,
even sometimes Noracal, But Arizona's almost like a sleeping giant
that's starting to rise a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Can you go in about that? Where do you see
that going in the future.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
We got some amazing clubs, and just recently, I feel
like there's been a big uptick in the number of
amateur events happening, So I think we're gonna see a
lot more kids coming out of the system here and
getting into tournaments and stuff. We we got new you
know folks overseeing USA boxing in Arizona in the last
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couple of years, and I think that that change was
probably a good thing for the state and for boxing
in Arizona because again, you see a lot more kids
are competing you know, locally, nationally, regionally, So I'd love
to see that.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
I think that's you know, moving.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Forward, that's just gonna really put us on the map
because we've got some good, good fighters, good gyms, good teams,
good people running things out here, and you know, everybody
is pretty good about working together and putting on these shows.
And I just think there's a lot more opportunity all
of a sudden in the last few years with amateurs,
and I'm so happy for that. And then on the
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pro side, you know, you still have a few promoters
here doing pro shows. You know, it's tough here to
do pro events. You know, the ticket sales are hard,
so because you are competing with some of the big
you know sports, all of the big sports. Right in hockey,
we lost hockey, but we have everything else and so
(18:51):
but you know, I think there, I think we're definitely
headed in the right direction. I think you're going to
continue to see good talent. I think people are starting
to come here because there's good coaches here, good gym
and you know, I think I think you'll be seeing
more and more out of here.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Now, what is it going to take for Phoenix, parts
of other parts of Arizona, et cetera, et cetera, to
become one of the bigger markets in boxing going forward.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I mean, I think already we're seeing a lot of
events coming here and they're doing well even when the
guys aren't from here. So I think if these big
promoters continue to come here and continue to showcase some
of the same names and getting the locals behind them
and then giving opportunities to locals on the card, I
think would be instrumental. I'd like to see much more
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of that, Like, you know, depending on the promoters, some
put you know, local guys on, some don't, and I
think it's just a nice it's a nice way to
grow these prospects here in Arizona, or do a smaller show,
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
There's different there's different things you can do, but that's
one thing. And you know, the media, I'd love to
see the media covering the local media covering boxing a
little better. I mean, they do it a little bit,
but it's you know, it's there's a lot here and
they don't cover a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
So got you Is.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It just that there's not enough of it? Sorry Jamison,
but what's the issue with the local media coverage.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Is just well they don't know, like they don't know
when it's topped, Like you know, you have PR people,
so only one of the local promoters as a PR
person or doesn't anymore because I just left. So it's
partially a matter of just not having the people to
pitch the stories and get word out and develop those relationships.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Go ahead, Jameson, Sorry, I was just gonna ask.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
When it comes to the locations, obviously you live in Arizona,
you're very comfortable with that.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Is there another place you like covering events or.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Throwing events at when it comes to promoting and you know,
putting on events and uh, other events are easy work with.
I know someplaces are difficult due to taxes, due to
rules and all that.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Other places that are better or easier, like Arizona is.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I mean Illinois is pretty similar in terms of what
they require.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
They have one difference.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
It's kind of significant that your e exam has to
be by an optalmologist, which complicates getting them.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
But that's a whole little thing.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
But in general, Illinois kind of similar in how they
approve abouts and everything. So and I've worked there for
like seven years with with Bobby Hits, so I really
enjoy working with those fighters. I've got to know a
lot of them over the years, and.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
I like seeing them.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Like one Gara's fighting, you know, he was a Chicago fighter,
is a Chicago fighter. He's gonna fight on a top
break show coming up here, and you know, just stuff
like that. So I enjoy working in Chicago. That was
That's probably my favorite place. And I'm getting to know
some of these places with WFC where we're going back again.
So we're going to Portland again. Just went in February.
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We're going in June or June, So I'm going to
see some of the same people on a you know,
probably developed some of those same types of relationships, but
I'm just now kind of getting to know the different
casinos and communities that he works with. But certainly like
the big shows, like working with some of the same people,
like the same teams is awesome. Like I love seeing
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you know, every show, every PBC and TGB show, I
see some of the same folks, you know teams, and
you know, even if the fighters are different, the teams
are the same. So that's that's really nice. Just getting
to know everybody cool.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Right, So you introduced us to Trenio show, who was amazing,
and we're really thank you for that. We're so happy
to have him on the on the show. Are there
any other names that you want people to know, Like
keep an eye on this young guy, this guy, even
if they're not Arizona based, Like who do we need
to see the up and rising talent that we're that
we're going to see on pay per view in five years.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I just signed I just signed Brian Miranda.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Uh. He goes by red or Rojo. Uh. He's from
here in Phoenix. He's four oh with four knocked out.
I believe he's gonna fight July fifth in Phoenix as well.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
He's a very.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Heavy handed, talented kid. He's kind of short, but he's
he's so strong. I mean, he's so heavy handed. I'll
send you guys his video so you have it. But
he's he's very, very talented and I'm very excited to
see how he does now that he's going to be
active on a regular basis because he was off for
a year or two with his contract. Let's see. That's
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that's definitely one to watch. And then you know, Jose
Senior has got a couple of fighters. Daniel Blancos, I
don't know if you are familiar with him, but he's
been fighting on the PBC events and he's he's uh,
he's definitely you know, good to watch at sixty eight.
I believe it's sixty eight. I'm blinking right now. We
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have Danny Barrios, who's kind of the main attraction at
Del Soul Boxing.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Uh, he's one twenty two.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
He had he was on a The Zone show with
Matt Trum and had had a really good outing but
lost a close decision. And so we're hoping he gets,
you know, an opportunity at the higher level again because
he came out in his last fight and just really
put it on his opponent who was a tough kid.
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Best Star was his last name, Alexis bass Star, and
he stopped him, I think in the fourth round, and
it was just a really incredible performance. He just you
can see him improving every fight.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So one L is not going to ruin the careers
at least I don't think so. Maybe some of these
fans act like it, but no, really, yeah, don't worry
about blanking like We'll be honest, really just asking so
that we can say, if I years from now, that
name you heard on the Mixed Company podcast first, right,
and shoving faces. No, No, of course that we really
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appreciate that. So speaking out of fighters that you work with,
you know, of course you work with David Benavitez. A
couple of weeks ago the news came out that he
got the WBC belt that won seventy five because he
was turned out for a fight for Dimitribvo. I'm sure
having the belt is like an honor. It's awesome, but
what's the Do you have any sense of the feeling
in the Benavides camp, like, is he bummed about it?
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Is a bittersweet? Do you you know? Is there anything
that you can tell us without you know, speaking out
of school.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I haven't spoken with him on it specifically, but I
know that he's expressed that, you know, of course it's
an honor, and of course he's he's earned that, you know, opportunity,
and you know, he earned that belt in the fight
against Morrell and the fight you know previous to that,
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and he's and of course it's not the way he
wanted to get it. And I think that he still
wants to fight people. I don't think that, you know,
I think he wants to prove that he's the best, just.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Like he has.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
He really is confident, we are confident that he's the best,
and he just wants the opportunity to prove it. And
these guys just don't want to give him the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
And I mean, I think I know.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Why, but you know, it's it's a risk, and you know,
he's he's willing to take that risk. And it's really
you know, refreshing as a fan and as his friend,
and you know, I really hope he gets the opportunity
to show the world that he deserves you know, undisputed.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We we Jamison, I agree, we talked about it. You know,
we're we're fans as well, and yeah, I think he
does deserve a chance. If it takes a little bit longer,
whatever it is, my man has earned the chance. So
I definitely am with you on that. Do you do
you get any sense of like anybody else he might
fight in the meantime or is that not your your area?
Do you just kind of like promote whatever are.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Yeah, that's sorry, not my above my pay grade.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, that's not your Bailey wick as the as as
College of US College Boys say, No, we appreciate the inside.
Like I said, love behind the scenes stuff, James, and
I got something else, Jamison, you want to.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Jump in or you get yes, I do so. You
mentioned you also put on MMA events you as well.
Is there any distinct differences between the boxing events and
the MMA events by Champ? Just out of curiosity, certainly.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to events,
Like I'm still kind of getting the hang of like
the different like because there's when you do an MMA show,
it's not often just MMA. It's way time kickboxing too,
So I'm always like, okay, the weight classes are a
little different, you know, the rounds are three two minutes
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or three three minute and it could be different. It
could be five minutes. Like I don't really I haven't
gotten all that down yet. It's just really I feel
so adequate because of my knowledge of boxing is so
thorough in that regard, and then an MMA I'm just
like an idiot. Same with like the gloves, I'm like, okay,
do they need shin guards?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Don't they need you know?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
So it's just kind of getting that stuff. I'm still
working on it. The fighters and the teens are really
different than boxing.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I don't know how I wish I could give you
some specifics.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I feel like MMA fighters, like there's certain expectations that
boxers have out of an event, and certain expectations and
MMA fighters have at an event. Like an MA fighter
wouldn't take it for granted that they'd have a hotel room,
whereas a boxer would. So there's some differences like that
that I'm learning, you know, like, of course they're going
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to want a hotel because I'm used to boxing, you know,
and then they're not expecting it because it's not part
of the culture of MMA. So there's a lot of
little things like that that I'm still kind of getting
the hang of. The people are a little different.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Like they're.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Like, going to get medicals is super easy to get
them to do.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
It's it's much easier than boxing really same tests. It's
just easy, Like you just like go get these tests
and then go do them, and they're like, you just
gave them to me.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
You just did them and gave them to me. I
didn't have to harass you.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
From the fighter. So you mean not like in to
the doctor. Okay, interesting?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
In some of the sanctioning's quite a bit different, you know,
because they use like sanctioning organizations that may or may
not be a state commission. So I'm used to dealing
with a little more regulated process, but they're just as stringdent.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
It's just different. So yeah, it's just different kind of
everywhere to go.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
And what about you as a as a viewer, are
you a fan of MMA? There's something that you would watch?
Forget about like you know, working with them, you know,
it's not really your thing.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I'm not going to watch it unless i'm working almost
for sure, Like like Chris Cydeborg I work with her occasionally,
like I would watch her fight because I know her right,
But in general, I don't have any desire to watch it.
I watch it when i'm working and I'm starting to
you know, I certainly appreciate it. I certainly appreciate the
athleticism and the fact that they have to train and
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be proficient in all these different disciplines and they take
a lot of abuse to their bodies and training and competing.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
So much respect for those guys.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
It's just not a sport that I enjoy watching in
the same way that I enjoy boxing.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
That's so interesting because I feel the exact same way.
I don't know what it is. I feel like maybe
I should go back to grad school so I could
keep ignoring my student loans and do some kind of
research on the difference between the mindset of a boxing
fan and an m A fan. Some people just say, like,
I like fights and whatever. That's cool, that's awesome, But
I don't know. There's Jamison and I we don't watch
We've talked about how we don't watch MMA, and I
can't tell you what it is. I will say part
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of me is jealousy because I've taken boxing lessons, but
I'm not flexible, so I can't kick. So I'm like,
damn you, I hate that they can kick it. I
can't do that for shit.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
So there's that there's a big time crossover with boxing
fans and you know pro wrestling fans too, right, And
I don't know if that's true for MMA fans too.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's yeah, it's it's such a phenomenon. Maybe we'll do
like a whole show where we just discuss and talk
to MMA fans and go out there and get interviews.
I don't know. It's something something I've been thinking about
for like years now. Is why you if I'm out
at a bar and it's playing like great, I'll watch it,
but I'm not even invested. I don't. I don't feel
it in my heart, like when I'm watching boxers, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Yeah, Like, I could watch any boxing and find something
to annoy about it. But I'll enjoy an MMA fight
if I know the people fighting. So I kind of
enjoy our fights with WFC. But I'm okay to sit
out and do tickets as well. I don't get sad
about missing the fights.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's so interesting. Yeah, well we'll have to explore that
some more, but okay, cool pivoting a little bit. So
you mentioned you know you have kids, You're a family woman.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I think boxing is the coolest thing in the world,
and if I had a relative or somebody that was
involved in the boxing world, I'd be thrilled. But also,
we know kids never think their parents are cool. I
was curious, like, your kids think that you're awesome because
you work in comment sports that they're like, yeah, whatever,
my mom does their you know, laid stuff whatever, not
at all.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
They're not. No, I don't think that's impressive to them
at all.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
They'd probably be impressed if I had a regular job
because I'd be like, you know, we're stable, but uh yeah, no,
they're and and they've all worked in the business from
one way or another. So including Nikola, I hadn't My
printer doesn't doesn't have the little catcher like for the
pages when they come out, and when I'm printing on
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card stock, it falls out, So I have them stand
over there when I'm doing tickets and hold the card
stock and do stuff on my computer. So every kid
has worked in the business, so they're probably kind of
over it. But you know, they're great kids, and they
you know, they they are good with whatever I'm doing.
But no, they're not like, oh cool, not at all.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
They're like, oh, mom, take me to the fights so
I can see it, like they're just you know, that's
not it's unlike quiet.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Like my son came on his own with his friend's
kind of the same del soul. I saw you at
am I allowed to say that, Yeah, absolutely absolutely. He
came to that show and that was like the first
show he'd been in since he was like fourteen. When
I used to have them working with me. So my
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one daughter would go with me a little more often,
like just she just enjoyed going, but she lives in Greece,
so I never did to see her.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
That's pretty cool, though, I gotta I gotta say, Uh,
if you had to choose between going to your mom
to really cool events or living in Greece, I know
which one I take.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
But yeah, exactly, I'm kidding, right.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So, speaking of the Del Soul events, you know, like
we said, it's a brawl in the bose. I think
you do four times a year, is that correct? M?
Four times or so? Under Decil promotions? Do you ever
have women boxing? You know, I've I've been to one
and I've seen the adverts. It seems to be a
lot of men. Do you women fighters in these?
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Alas at Valerio, Yeah, Alisa at Valerio is signed with
Dulsel and she's I think she's like one hundred and
five or a hundred eight pounds maybe maybe maybe one twelve.
I'm not really sure off him, but she's lovely. She's
I did her pro debut, or did a lot of
pr for her pro debut. She's nineteen and she's actually
a carpenter and she works like on a construction site
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and controls. He's like super expensive robots and she's like
in the Wall Street Journal for this and yeah, super cool.
And then she's also in school for construction man and
then she's a pro boxer, so really cool. You know,
she's really awesome. She's a great interview If you ever
want to talk to her too, Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
We would love to absolutely. Yeah cool. So I got
one more Jamison, anything else you want to jump on?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I am good. She's been amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, So last thing before we let you go. You're
very busy woman. What about some young guy? It was like,
you know, eighteen nineteen, maybe younger fifteen, but who wants
to be a professional fighter? On your side of it
is someone that you know seeing people become professionals, Like,
what advice would you give that they want to see
themselves on a pay per view someday on HBO or.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
If that's what you want to do, you need to
just make sure you dedicate yourself to it fully.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
You can't. You can't mess around.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
So this is life and death, Like you could literally
die if you're not properly prepared. So if you love
your mom and you love your sisters and your brothers
and your friends, don't get into it unless you're willing
to dedicate yourself properly, both on the dieting and training end,
because if you don't dedicate yourself properly, you could get
(35:42):
hurt and nobody else that.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
So and protect yourself at all times inside and outside
the way.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Absolutely. Now that is a fabulous answer. We can't thank
you enough for doing this for us. Thank you for
not hating us, for pitting me for me.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Like, couldn't get myself together over multiple days.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
So actually my son like had an allergic reaction and
broke out in hives and we had to take into
urgent care today.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
And I'm like, these guys are gonna kill me if
you don't get back in time.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Also, is this fair to say you sound like you
live a crazy life. I believe your job your life
to see that.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
It's a little mona.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
But hey, you know what, you know what at least
it's not right. Yeah, let's rob Emily. Please tell people
where they can find you social media, any events that
you want to uh to plug. The next brawl in
the bodio, you know when is that happening. It's in
Phoenix for.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
All you that's gonna be July fifth, July fifth is
the next brawl in the barrio.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
That'll be I'm assuming the same. Yeah, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
No, I said, I see, I'll see you there.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
As Oh, okay, you'll see me there.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
So that's July fifth, and I have made ten. We
have m m A in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
May thirty first, we have MMA in Laughlin, and also
obviously we have PBC with Jamal Charlow versus Cornflake and
Caleb Plant versus somebody whose names escape for me right now, no,
and then and then June fourteenth we have boxing back
(37:22):
in Seattle and June twenty eighth MMA in Portland. So
follow me on at Emily Boxing on Instagram or Twitter
or Facebook, and you know, I keep your boody updated
on what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So awesome. Great. Well, to wrap up, Jamison, where can
people follow you on social media?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
At Twitter at the Jamison always there. I love boxing,
love when we all watch as a family on social media.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
It's great. Even though we don't have those moments anymore,
I used to, but we still have a few, so
it's always good to have.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Gotcha. Well, please follow me at the Classy Alcoholic on
Instagram and Blue Sky podcast has its own Twitter account
at mixed Copodcasts. Check out the visuals for this very
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other Thursday, so please join us again on May eighth.
We'll have all of our thoughts on the fights from
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Company Podcast. Thank you so much, Emily Gerdon, thanks you
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