The Breakdown of the Most Rewatched Movies of the Past 10 Years

This week hosts Scott Martin & Christopher Spicer each look at the five movies from the past 10 years that they have returned to the most. It is an interesting look at the contrast between the two as they have very different movies but also their own unique reasons for why certain pictures have been watched so often. A hint, one of the hosts is a parent and may have littles who convinced them to return to some singing princesses on several occasions. A great show for some possible recommendations for those with kids but also looking for fun adult movies.

Episode Transcript

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They're coming to get you, Barbara, They're coming for you. That comes
one of them. Now, welcometo the latest episode of the Movie Breakdown,

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an episode that's going to have twohosts this time, and I'm gonna
be one of them, and weare gonna be doing a special episode this
week called the Breakdown of the mostRewatched Movies of the past ten years.
Isn't that an awesome title? Soessentially, we're gonna be talking about movies
that have been released since we've startedthis podcast that we just can't get enough.

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We keep on returning to them.What are the five movies that we
have watched lots and lots and Ican guarantee you they are going to be
very different movies between the two ofus and probably for very different reasons.
I'm Christopher Spicer and I'm Scott Martin. And before we get into this,
just want to say this podcast,this podcast is brought to you by Spraaker

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Prime, a great place to haveyour podcast hosted if you are looking for
that sort of thing. It's awonderful site and as well Beyond the Balcony,
which you can access by going toBeyond Balcony dot com. So We're
gonna be talking about those films thatwe watch again and again in our off
time. The films that we don'tsit down and review for the podcast that

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you know, we may have reviewedthem initially for this podcast, but this
is what we see outside of timeand energy we put into making this show.
My number five, it's a moviethat chriss on theaters. I did
not get to see in theaters,but I absolutely love it is Game Night.

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When I watched it originally, Ilaughed and I think I walked away
giving it a three stars. However, this movie is easily one of the
most rewatched films from the past tenyears. And I'll say this, any
movie on this list has been watchedfour or more times. And one of

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the reasons why I've seen Game Nightso many times is the fact that the
opportunity to watch it with my parents. I've watched it with my wife.
I think twice we've watched it justourselves. I've seen it on my own
and sometimes that's just what happens.Is a movie that is family quality gets

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watched the most times because when I'mhanging out with my parents, I'm not
gonna drop the witch. It's notbecause they don't like period piece movies,
is because they don't like horrors.And yeah, what makes Game Night such
a rewatchable film is I think thelevel of humor that when it When it
came out, we were just inthis sort of heralded a new era of

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comedy where things weren't as cynical andoverused ideas. We got different energy,
we got a more positive energy,and we got incredible performances and just really
really well directed film. I rememberedso well when Chris was doing a solo

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review of it, was the factthat there was a sequence in the movie
with an egg, a Faberge egg, and it was shot so well that
Chris had to mention it. WhenI saw it, it really did stick
out. It was very very competentdirecting. And the duo that did Game

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Night, John Francis Daily and JonathanGoldstein, they ended up doing a comedy
action movie in Dungeons and Dragons,and you can totally see that they have
an eye for action in that film, and here in Game Night, they
kept the comedy really, really fresh. It didn't feel like we're laughing at

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the same thing, not like kindof movies around that time that just had
the same penis jokes over and over, but it was fresh comedy throughout the
film. Incredible casting from every majorplayer. I mean, I did not
know a lot about Billy Magnusson,but I became a fan in Game Night.
I didn't know a lot about JessePlemon's, but my gosh, if

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I see even the mention of JessePlemons is a cast member of a film
nowadays, I kind of feel likeI need to see it, and you
can watch it with a very diversecrowd because of its good nature. So
that's why it's on the list.It's interesting where we sort of talk about

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favorite movies or best movies when youdo your end of the year list,
because it is sometimes it changes becauseyou'll have something where it connects to and
you really like it. But thenas time goes on, you start realizing,
like that movie I made my numberone, I haven't even revisited once,

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but this movie that kind of mademy honorable mentions, I've now rewatched
it several times, and that's kindof the movie that I keep on kind
of having it's to see and youstart realizing that that was actually probably my
number one, or at least likesomewhere in my top three. And that's
kind of the interesting thing about art, and sometimes you don't really know what's
going to connect to you or bethat thing that's going to have that long

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lasting legacy until you sort of giveit some time. And so I mean,
it doesn't make obviously, like thebest of list worthless. It just
makes best of list kind of timecapsules, which is sometimes where it's fun
where we've done some shows where werevisit them because it's like, yeah,
this was the best of this wasthe best movie when I made this list
initially, but I wasn't aware ofhow something like Game Night, what's going

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to last and endure with me overthe years and such. I have revisited
this movie. I revisited it whenwe did the Best Comedies of the Past
ten years, and a lot ofthe things I liked about the first time
kind of we're amplified the second timearound, because to me, one of

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the things that makes this movie reallywork is a fact that you've got likable
characters. And there is sort oflike we've mentioned this before, like well,
the show that no one ever heard, the Stray's episode. I talked
about one of the things about sortof why stray has worked is there and
even Barbie is that there's this thisheart in the movie that's there right from

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the beginning. It's not just tackedon at the end, that there is
this heart throughout the picture. Thereis this caring about these characters. I
feel Game Night is one of thosemovies This happened in the last few years
with some of with comedies being elevatedwhere it actually likes its characters and you
connect with these characters. But ontop of that, there is a sense
of directing here, a sense ofsort of expertise and I for sort of

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ciminotography and crafting scenes that doesn't happenin a lot of comedies that aren't directed
by Edgar Wright. Like you think, Edgar Wright is a person who is
a very visual director and very muchcares about sort of where the camera placement
is in the staging, and hehas a lot of physical elements to his
comedy. But I think a lotof comedies are often not worried about the

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staging, not worried about sort ofthe crafting of the scene as much.
It's just about get the jokes out. Just get the jokes out. And
Gay Night is an example of apicture of the craft and the picture of
sort of the visual style and thecolor choices and where you're placing that camera
and like that egg scene, andactually caring about some action sequences. And

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so it made Game Night, Ithink in Jural better because it's not just
about the jokes. There's a lotof things here. There is great dialogue,
there's characters you care about, there'sa well paid story here, and
there is a craft. And soit is a picture where I think when
you revisit it, and especially whenyou give it time and then seeing compared
to other comedies have come in thepast ten years, you really realize how

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much of a masterpieces indeed, andI mean now, if I was to
watch and rate it now, Iwithout shame give it four stars because when
I think about comedies and what thismovie provides as a comedy are the things
you just referenced. It's a greatstory. A lot of the jokes in

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this film, and it's very studentof you talking about how they pay attention
to the camera. They're pulled offwell because where the camera is, I
mean the whole scene with the dog. It's it's how it's shot. It's
not just Jason Bateon trying to cleanup a mess. See I'm laughing here,
am talking about a scene with adog and I'm laughing. As far
as comedies go, it swings forthe fences and it nails it, and

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I would give it four stars now. And if you talk about a movie
that sort of does know as characters, I think one of my favorite moments
in the tire Of movie is whenthere's a bad guy that's about to get
Rachel McAdams and the bad guy thengets pulled in through the plane and she's
like, yes, like we gotrid of the bad guy. That's like,
oh no, he died. That'swhat she is, right, She's

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a caring, loving person. She'snot an action star. It works because,
like you said, that's her character. She's a sweet, sweet lady.
And another thing that you mentioned withthis movie that is interesting about when
it comes to rewatching stuff is likeone is the fact that someone you don't
know which movies are going to reallyresonate with you and you're going to have

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a hankering to see they gave mesomething like Diehard. It's something that over
time you realize, oh, thisis a really great action movie. When
it first came out, people likedit, but now it's something that's enjured
sort of a staple that people watchevery year. But another thing you mentioned,
which I think it's really true,is that idea that there's movies you
like, but you recognize that thecompany you're with that they are not necessarily

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gonna like it at the same way. And that's one of the challenges I've
had is when people find out thatI have a movie or review podcast,
when they find out that I've professionallywritten reviews, have been paid to review
movies, like, oh, well, you should then have great movies to
recommend. But the thing is thatI am aware that some of the movies
I really like are not going tobe a good fit for my brother in

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law's parents, or are not gonnabe a good fit for my parents,
are not gonna be a good fitfor my mother in law. Like it's
sort of this idea that's sort oflike, oh well, I don't think
you're gonna like this movie that haslike fifty curse words in it. And
so it's sometimes where I find thatthe movies you end up watching, the

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movies you have to recommend you're sortof like, this isn't my favorite movie,
but I think this is something thatyou're gonna like more. Yeah,
there's there's a lot of a lotof that that needs to dance. There's
there's some dancing around that needs tohappen before you give a recommendation, because
well, you know, going againto the Witch. Do you like period
pieces? What about a struggling familythat who's whose connection to their religion is

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put to the test when they're ostracizedfrom their community. That sounds like a
great religious film. So the rewatchthis episode is a really interesting one for
me because I just I think assort of as a parent and a sort
of a freelancer who's constantly trying tofind things to kind of get work and

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stuff. I don't find that Irewatch a lot of movies kind of just
for pleasure. I watched them forthe podcast, or I rewatched them for
when we're doing the best of list, or when we're doing the best comedies
of times, or if we havelike an episode where we're talking about said,
well, movies, I rewatch itto see if it's going to be
in this show, or like Isaid, that whole parent thing so a

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lot of my rewatch stuff happens tobe because kids. And that's what's going
to be very obvious on my listis my entire list basically is because kids.
And my number five picture is theLego Batman movie, which I initially

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saw in the theater I believed bymyself because Evert was fairly young at the
time, and then about a weeklater I took him because it's the idea
that I want to make sure.I watched it early aft the weekend podcast
about it have It when it wasstill kind of a new release, and
then a little bit later when itwasn't as packed in the theater, I
took Everett and ever It at thetime was really in so ever It was

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the type of kid where when hewas young he was really into sort of
like fuzzy animal movies. He's niceand soft movies and movies that had talcket
animals and everyone just hugs and lovesand something like care Bears. It was
just perfectly up his alley. AndI remember when he first went to school

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there a bunch of his friends thatthey're really the Spider Man, and so
he was he was like, oh, well, we came home because I
want to watch Spider Man. Iwant to watch the Spider Man show because
all my friends really like it.So I don't know if it's gonna be
your thing, and he pushed him, pushed him. Finally saw it.
After about five minutes, he waslike, I don't want to watch this,
and so then we put on careBears and he was like, this
is my kind of show. Sothat's sort of where he was at for

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a while. Was into these sortof like Paw Patrol and things like that,
and then when you get a littlebit older, he started he started
getting a bit more to superheroes.But I came through Lego because he was
really into Lego. He's always lovedLego, and so when I told his
friends for birthday parties that he likesleg he tended to get Superhero Lego,

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and so that started getting him intoit. And then so Lego Batman was
kind of the perfect storm where it'slike I have those toys and now it's
in a movie, and every kidloves watching their toys on the big screen.
And so he saw that movie andhe itstually really liked it, and
it was finally kind of a moviewhere he started getting into things that were

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a bit more action. He startedlike at action movies now, but Lego
Batman was kind of a safe onetoo, and it has a nice message.
I believe that year was the yearthat my parents were going to buy
my daughter Danica Frozen Blu ray becausethat's all she ever talked about. That
movie might get mentioned later and thenso they're like, well, what can
we give Ever, And I go, well, how about we give him

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the Lego Batman movie. He'll reallylike that. So she gave him that,
and then obviously now that he gotas a gift, he had to
rewatch it. He wanted to rewatchit with me, so we saw it
on Blu Ray, probably shortly afterChristmas together. And then he started getting
into this phase where you know,he's a big boy now and he can't
watch these like cuddly soft movies.He's got to watch stuff with action.

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And so there'd be once a whilewhere MoMA is out and so the kids
were like, oh, well thatmeans we get a night with dad and
we gotta watch a movie. Andthat was like a tradition that I created,
and so I'll be like, well, we gotta ever, we gotta
watch something that your sister can watchtoo, and she would want to watch
it Disney thing, and Everett startedto sign that he had this edge and
he can't watch Disney movies. He'sgetting too old. So he would resort

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to Lego Batman. And Lego Batmanwas good enough for Danica and because our
kids are more than happy to watchit many many times. So Lego Batman's
on this list because Everett was tootough to watch fluffy animal movies that would
work for Danika. Now he hadto watch something with an edge, and
that edge was Lego Batman. Andso many many times Lego Batman would be

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on the TV and when I say, watch what it is is, it
was on the TV and then theykind of played Lego how the movie was
playing. So I'm not sure howoften how many movies they watched, but
they definitely played alongside the Lego Batmanon the screen. So Lego Batman is
something that it's it's it's funny seeinghow the evolution of how my kids grew

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up and how Batman was sort ofhis first step in like, well,
this is tougher movies. I lovethat he got an edge, needs to
be you know, no, I'mbeyond kid movies. I've been there.
I have firstly been there Lego Batman. Things could be a lot worse than
Lego Batman. It's got great voicecast and spectacular and animation and the interest.

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The thing is, so we lookat Chris McKay, the director.
I think this was his first featurefilm here, maybe second. He's done
a lot of robot chickens. Sonow he's moved past sort of even the
Lego Batman and u Joemanji. Thatwas like the next stage, and then
we went to the theater stuff likegoose Bumps and The House of Clock of

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the Walls, and lately it's beensort of like, well, I want
to watch Indiana Jones or I wantto watch Star Wars or I want to
watch Warcraft, and some of themI'm like, oh, we can't watch
that with dank and other times likeno, we're gonna have to pick something
else. But there is definitely he'sin this stage right now where it's like,
I need movies are considered more adult, like Godzilla or Kung Island.

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Oh, why does any pick goodfilms? Pick good films? Everett.
He was not a big fan ofthe Godzilla that we recommended the twenty fourteen
one because it did not have becausethere wasn't enough Godzilla in it. So
he was not a big fan ofthat. So every time where I'm like,
well do you want to watch Godzillaversus cong because I haven't seen it
yet, He's kind of like,well, is it like the first Godzilla?

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Because that was not good. It'sfunny, there's so many people who
didn't like that first film, andthe reason they didn't like it with the
exact reason why we liked it.It's so yeah, it goes to that
whole what do you recommend to people? Because even within a shared interest of
like a creature feature, something thatwe thought was a positive for other people

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ends up being a negative. It'sinteresting with the Lego Batman movie because obviously
there was a picture that really connectedwith Ever and Soil that he really wanted
to see the other Lego movies,And there was a time when the Lego
Batman came out that this was goingto be a big, massive franchise.
I think they had a play oflike five or six more Lego movies that

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were supposed to happen, and wewere going to get a Lego Verse.
It was going to be this bigdeal, and we did get like the
Lego movie sequel, and you didget the Jongo And Everett had seen both
of those and he's liked them justfine. But the only one he's really
ever returned to his Lego Batman.And I think to me it is a
sign of one of the challenges thatyou have as a studio, especially when

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it comes to kids, is they'remore than happy to revisit the one movie
they like if the other ones don'tconnect. And so that's sort of the
challenges when you're trying to do sequels, especially in the case with the kids,
often is they're not really interested inseeing a new version. They're more
than happy just to revisit the onemovie that did connect with them. I

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would rewatch the same film, likewhen we talk about so me seeing a
movie twice sometimes feels like, youknow, really really gone out of my
way, and you know, spenda lot of time with the film.
When I was a kid, Icould watch the same movie every single day
for a month and not be boredand other stuff. Yeah, I liked

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it, but I'm not going torewatch it like that. Yeah, And
I think that was the big challengewith the Lego Movie is. I think
Everett liked nan Jongo, but wenever really wanted to return to it,
and I think that's what kind ofstopped the Lego verse is. I think
after the first two movies, theLego Movie, the Lego Batman, they
kind of hit that perfect formula thatthey never were We're really able to recapture

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with the movies after my next film, I got I See. I saw
in theaters twice. It was abig reason why this is making the list.
And it was also one of myfavorite movies, or was my favorite
movie of the year when it cameout, and one of my favorite movies
of all time. And Mad MaxFury Road twenty fifteen. What a year
for the blockbuster. As Chris,both you and I had a major blockbuster

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each as our number one film ofthe year, which and I mean,
it's odd enough that there's one blockbusterthat you may even have in your top
ten sometimes it seems, but forboth of us to have one top ten
as pretty special, and mine wasyeah, Mad Max Fury Road. I
saw it with you. Then Iwent to the theater with my dad and

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I saw it I've watched it withmy wife. My wife even it was
on our anniversary one year, andwe watched it on our anniversary, and
that was not my idea. Thatwas actually my wife's idea, let's watch
Mad Max together. Thumbs up.Anytime someone says, you know what,
I wouldn't mind watching Mad Max,I'm going to agree and say that it's

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a terrific idea. This film reallyand it's vibrant visuals the world it creates.
It doesn't start off with a narratortalking about how the world got this
way. Here's Mad Max. He'speeing, he's out in the in the
desert. Some bad guys who wehaven't established are chasing after him. There

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that's all you need to know,and there's there's a big race through the
desert. I love the simplicity.It's still got characters with motivation. To
me, this is storytelling with simplicity, but it's not simple. It's very
complex, but it's done so well. When you talk about where this film,

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when this film came out, seeingnothing but CGI everywhere, everywhere,
everywhere. Now, the movie obviouslydid have a lot of CGI in it,
but it was a return to tryingto do there's something that that could
be done practically, it was donepractically. You kind of feel like there's
a different love that goes into amovie when when there's that kind of dedication

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in the end, it creates aworld that feels more tactile, one that
feels more lived in. And I'mtruly grateful for the work that George Miller
and everyone put into Mad Max FuryRoad because it did create a lived in
world and it felt like an actualplace that would evolve in a post apocalyptic

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Australia. Yeah, twenty fifteen seemsto be one of those years now that
I look back fondly as one ofthe kind of last great years for sort
of these distinct block busters, theseones that were sort of these great pictures
that made our sort of best oflist and have this fondness. And we

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mentioned recently so this idea that like, we're not struggling from superhero fatigue per
se, and that's obvious when youlook at something like Spider Man Across the
Spider Verse, where it was oneof the highest grossing movies of the summer,
and it's a superhero movie, sothat wasn't necessarily the issue, but

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it's this generic tent pole fatigue.People were getting tired of sameness, and
it's one of the reasons why Ithink Oppenheimer and Barbie did so terrific.
It's because they came out as thesevery distinct movies and they're very much of
the vision of their creators. ChristopherNolan very much crafted, Oppenhammer had his

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creative energies going into it, andBarbie was very much Greta Gerwig and her
partner Noah Bomback, who helped withthe screenplay. There's they're very much the
creative vision, and I think that'ssomething that connected with audiences. These are
distinct movies. They're fresh, theyseem different, and they have a clear
vision and a clear message. There'sso many movies in the last few years

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that I've even liked, but Idon't really remember them. After a week
you kind of podcast about them,and then I never think about them again
because they all just kind of blendtogether. And this is like the MCU
movies. These are a lot ofthese big kind of event pictures in the
last few years have just sort oflack this distinct vision. It feels like
anyone could have directed this and theyjust go together. And that's one of

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the things about twenty fifteen is MadMax is one of those pictures where I
have not really rewatched it much.I'm trying to think if I even have,
but it's one where it's still burnedin my vision. It's still to
me sort of right up there withBarbie. Is this idea of a blockbuster

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that isn't Our Tour. It's onethat is. It's just the vision,
clearly of George Miller. It's hisclear vision that came up on the screen.
And so this is something that enduresso much because it does. It
stands out. You remember it becauseit doesn't fit into the muck of all
the other ten poles that kind oflook the same. This look different.

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Part of that, obviously, itwas the practical style, but it's also
just a very strong vision that's happeninghere. And it's a picture that,
like you said, it's very straightforward. It's basically just a chase movie.
It's it's the Virgins trying to getaway from the crazy dictator type character.
But there is these nuanced characters,and there is this very distinct action,

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and there's this incredible world building,and it just makes it something a movie
that this is a movie where evenif you only see it once, it
burns into your mind. But it'sone where I think it does reward rewatching,
and it's one that over time hasreally proven its value when you think
of the last five years, LikeI said, like there's been a lot

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of big event movies I've enjoyed,but how many of them stick in my
mind? I'm trying to remember.I think three blockbusters did make my top
ten list, Star Wars, TheForest Awakens, mad Max, and Rogue
Nation, which I think for me, Rogue Nation is like the pinnacle of
the mission impossible films, at leastthe ones that I've seen. I haven't
seen the latest one. It hadthree distinct immersive, very very Each of

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those three films are so immersive inthe worlds that they create three distinct immersive
blockbusters. And I hope that maybeas Hollywood's realizing that the formula they've been
relying on drying up, that weget another year like that. Well.
One of the things that also we'vetalked those the idea that Hollywood keeps on

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getting sort of the wrong message,Like we looked this summer Barbin Heimer and
then it seems like the message theygot it, well, now we're gonna
do Saw Patrol. It's all aboutpairing these two like divergent movies, these
two movies that are very very theyjuxtaposed each other, but pair them as
a double bill. And apparently theythought that's what made Barbie and Oppenheimer a
success. And that's the lesson theytake. And we keep on criticizing studios

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get the wrong lesson, but Ialso kind of know why it happens,
because it's a lot easier to tryto find a quick fix than to think
the lesson is, Oh, thelesson is you need a creative movie and
giving directors more creative control. That'snot that makes studios really uncomfortable. They
don't want the lesson of giving adirector more creative control, and they definitely

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the lesson of be more imaginative,be more creative. That's not an easy
fix. And that's why you lookat mad Max fury Road. The reason
why you look at me like,oh, well, what movies did it
influence? It's because it's such adistinct and such a vision of one man.
You can't really replicate that. No, no, you can't. The

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lesson is if someone's got a goodidea and a vision back it. If
the problem is on the blockbuster levelwith the amount of money that's on the
line, risk adverse. But we'vegot three movies of that year did stand
out that had big explosions, thathad interesting characters, that had solid stories,

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and I remember all three of thoseblockbusters. I only saw Rogue Nation
once, but there's so many scenesfrom that that are just still in my
mind. Those are the lessons thatHollywood needs to pay attention to more so.
Yeah, and I think that isdefinitely the legacy of Fury Road is
because it's a distinct movie. Youreally remember it, And so Fury Road

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was your favorite movie of twenty fifteenand you rewatched it many times. My
fourth picture is what was my favoritemovie, my number one movie of fifteen.
Star Wars Episode seven, The ForceAwakens is a picture that I've revisited
several times. I went to thetheater obviously to see it, and I

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was absolutely wild by it. Andthen I had some family members don't wanted
to see it, and they didn'thave to do much convincing, so I
returned to the theater. There's nottoo many movies I've returned to the theater
to see again. But I didsee Force Awakens again, and then I
had some friends I hadn't seen ityet, So then I went back to
the theater to see Force Awakens again. It was kind of like the Phantom
Menace thing all over again. WasI didn't realize how much I was hungry

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for Star Wars, and so Ireturned to the theater and skipped out on
some newer movies just so I couldjustify seeing Force Awakens again. And then
we've had some best of lists,and we've had some best movies of the
last decade and such, and Irevisited Force I've used as an excuse to
revisit Force Awakens every time to see, well is it still my number one?

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Where does that land? And soI rewatched it many times for this
podcast, for sort of our compilationepisodes, and so that was it.
And then, of course I'd likedshowing every sort of the things that I
loved in my childhood. I mean, ever it is I think thinks India
Jones is a bigger phenomenon in moderntimes than it is, because I showed

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the India Jones movies to him,and he had ended Jones party years before
Dalve the Destiny, and none ofhis friends knew who Ada Jones was,
and so I was rewatching sort ofshowing him a lot of the things from
my child, and so of coursewe had to go through Star Wars,
and so we did the entire setof Star Wars, and so I watched
Force Awakens with him, so thatgave me another time to revisit it,

(30:37):
that that he was really into ForceAwakens and so that he wanted to show
that one to some of his friends. So then I sat with him and
watched it again. And so justthe joy of sort of a child becoming
a big Star Wars fan, myson having the Force just like I did
and being connected to it was obviouslysomething that's a big thrills a parent having
that thing. I love the factthat we connected over Ada Jones and he

(31:00):
he sort of did his own imaginativeplay and going on his own treasure hunting,
just like I did as a kidwith India Jones. And it was
the same thing with Star Wars.We got him lightsabers, we got him
different things, and he's trying touse the Force at home many many times,
and so I got to share thatexperience of how Star Wars was such
a defining childhood thing for me.I remember playing in my backyard like every

(31:21):
day and wanting to train to bea Jedi and trying to use that force
to get that cup of milk tocome to me without having to grab it,
use the force to have it bepulled towards me, and so I
did as a kid, And thenwitnessing that with my son was really exciting.
And so just sharing that movie withhim knowing that it really connected to
him. So I've rewatched a fewtimes with him. And so again,

(31:41):
like I said, these rewatched movieswere a lot sort of because of parents
are rewatched it because my kids wantedto see it, And so he became
a huge Star Wars fan. Ithink if you ask him right now,
I think he might like Lord ofthe Rings, maybe parts of Caribbean,
India Jones a bit better, buthe's still a big Star Wars fan.
He still asked me like every singleweek of like when's a movie coming back

(32:04):
to the theater, Like when dowe get as see a Star Wars movie
again? And both him and Ijust patiently waited if that day will happen
again. It's just everything keeps goingon Disney Plus. But yeah, Force
Awakens is definitely a movie that continuesto be sort of one of my favorite
movies. Part of it is afact that was a return to what I
loved. It was a return tosort of the Star Wars I remembered as

(32:25):
a child. But now there's alsothe special connection of something I've bonded with
my son over and seeing him havethe same excitement for it. And I
will definitely be revisiting Force Awakens againin the coming years because Dank has not
seen any of the Star Wars yet, so now I need to go through
all of them again with her.Oh that's very cool. That's one thing

(32:46):
I miss out on not having kids. The thing is, it'd be interesting
in twenty years someone who's I don'tknow, thirty, never seen any Star
Wars, sits down and watches themall like a prequel, starts there,
and when they get the Force Awakens, they might they might think, well,

(33:06):
this is actually exactly the same prettymuch as a New Hope, Like
what's different about it? But thething was, if those people grew up
the way we did, got fedthe prequels, and had just this desire.
Okay, they're doing more Star Warsmovies, please please capture, capture,

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capture what was good about the Originals? And Force Awakened did that.
And it's like you said, itwas this return to this world. I
loved. It. Wasn't me leavingthe theaters feeling like I had to have
liked it because it was Star Wars, which is how I felt leaving the

(33:51):
theater with the Phantom Menace, likeI have to have liked it because it's
Star Wars. And I did likethe Clone, Attack of the Clones and
Revenge of the Sith, the FirstAwakens. Here's the thing with nostalgia,
if you use it well, andif you used it at the right time,
it's brilliant. And JJ Abrams,while yeah, we could look at

(34:15):
it and say Star Killer, BassDeath Star, what's the difference. He
knew that we needed that. Sometimesyou just need that return to that comfort
food and Abrams nailed it. Andthat was exactly what I wanted and needed

(34:36):
at that point in time. Andyeah, there's so many similarities to a
New Hope, but I don't care. JJ knew what he was doing and
he created a terrific film, andof course you do exactly who's doing with
all the sequels too. It's it'sso good. They had it all planned
out and knew exactly where he wantedto go with all those hints and everything

(34:58):
that he drop. That's good thaneveryone was satisfied, Everyone fan base was
united, There was no issues,no one got mad and asked for anyone
to get fired, and it wasjust so wonderful. Everything turned out so
perfectly for Star Wars as a whole. After The Force Awakens, nothing went
wrong. No movies made them rethinkstrategies. They didn't. If only,

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if only it's interesting because I thinkyou're right in that if you're someone who
you decided to binge all the StarWars movies in your thirties, you've never
seen them before, there probably isthis idea of Force Awakens, almost feeling
like you're retreading things. But likeyou said, there's a context to it,
like you don't like to us themovie connected at works because there is

(35:47):
that distance or is that decades apartfrom it. There is this idea that
this movie was leading off the nostalgia, and so you're not going to appreciate
that when you watch them all together. But I do have to say that
I think through the eyes of likea child, through the eyes I want
to be swept to that adventure.That was not a criticism that Everett mentioned

(36:07):
at all. While watching Force Awakens. He wasn't like, oh, this
is too much like New Hope.He accepted this is now raised journey with
some similarities, but it was differentenough, it was exciting enough that he
accepted it and he went on thatadventure. Oh yeah, absolutely, My
next movie is one that it's It'son the list because it has to be.

(36:28):
Is Remember, this isn't a youknow, what are our favorite films.
This is the most watched This movieI've watched more times then get Out.
Get Out should be on this list. But Gods of Egypt has beaten
it. Why because I watched itonce, then I watched it another time
to see I forget whatever reason.I watched it a second time. Then

(36:52):
I watched it again because I wantedto know if I was being honest with
myself and I actually like it,and I wrote something on the site about
it, and then we we we'regonna review it together on the podcast,
So I had to watch it again. In total, I think I've watched

(37:13):
it five times. It was allfor different reasons, but hey, that's
that's sometimes what's what happens. Youwatch a movie because there's different factors behind
it, and Gods of Egypt wasone of those films, and I've seen
it a lot. This is themovie that you know, basically made Chadwick
Boseman's career. I think we canhonestly say that he never did anything of

(37:38):
greater value than his role in Godsof Egypt. Wouldn't you agree? Chris
my Son's believe if a movie hasa stinger or an end scene that hints
at a sequel, that means thatthere has to be a sequel. So
I mean, you're gonna get moreare Gods of Egypt in your future?

(38:01):
Like it's destined to have a sequel, and so it's going to become a
massive franchise and it will clearly bethe biggest franchise at Chadwick Botsman never had
been attached to. I think thatthis was gonna be the next Star Wars.
I still believe it is actually worththe three stars I gave it,
although I didn't the first time Iwatched it, I did not give it

(38:23):
three stars Well. Goods of Egyptis one of the reasons why I've never
been a fan, but sort ofthe term like so bad it's good or
guilty pleasures, because I feel likejust art is one of those things where
it just kind of connects to you, like something about it, Like you

(38:43):
may know that the filmmaking is notas great, and the CGI is not
that great, and the storytelling hastons of issues, and someone is overacting
beyond belief and there's a whole lotof slow motion money throwing and and gold
blood, Like you have the ideathat, oh, this movie is not

(39:04):
good, and maybe even your firstwatching you say it's not good, but
somehow it connects to you. Andif you enjoy a movie, if you
rewatch a movie, to me,you just sort of have to omit it
works at some level, because Imean, I've seen a lot of bad
movies that that I never want tosee again. But then there's something like
a Star Crash where you watch you'relike, wow, there's a charm here.

(39:27):
Is it as bad as the othermovies? Probably, but something worked
about that. And Gods of Egyptit did not connect with me whenever rewatched
it for the podcast, but Iwould say that something about it connected to
you, and sort of that's thechallenge of the critic. It's figuring out,
why does this garbage work for me? Yea, why does it work?

(39:49):
What happened there? I think ifBrenton Thwaites wasn't the lead, Drard
Butler, who doesn't care that hisaccent is just so far out of touch
with what everyone else is, doesn'ttry to do anything other than just his
normal voice. I love it.I love everything that everyone except for the

(40:12):
love interest of Brendon Thwaites. Ithink she's really dull here. If Brendon
Thwaites wasn't in there, Chris,I kind of believe that you would have
given it three stars. That's whatI say. This is also one of
those movies where I started doing thetheory of there's someone who's in a starring

(40:32):
role and I have no clue wisein a starring role must be Games of
Throne, because I didn't watch Gameof Thrones and so I didn't know the
stars, and so I had noclue who nick Jah Costas Walladu was.
And then I've discovered all it's becausehe's not Games of Throne. So that

(40:53):
became the New Game. Don't knowwho Kid Harrington is, oh, because
a Game of Thrones, and sothere's probably only several movies where I credit
someone thinking he must be on Gameof Thrones and he probably wasn't. I
actually don't even know how many timesI have seen this movie, and it's
a movie where I don't even knowwhen I reviewed it, if I recommended

(41:16):
it. That's why I can't remember. I think I gave it three stars.
But the movie that I've seen moretimes than I can count is the
animated feature Sing, the movie fromIllumination, the movie about a singing contest
sort of American Idol contest. TheMcConaughey Koala has a contest and a bunch

(41:42):
of animals sing and try to wina grand prize. It was a movie
that was obviously a big enough hitwhere I had a sequel, which I
don't think I have seen. Iwent to the theater to see Sing for
the podcast, so that'd be thefirst time I saw it, and then
it came to Netflix. And thiswas back when Everett was still liking cute

(42:02):
animals as movies, and so Iwatched Sing with Everett and then he really
liked it. So I believe.We then watched it again, and then
my daughter got old enough and soI showed it to her and she loved
it. And then she decided thatas one of my birthday presents. On
my birthday, I needed to watcha movie with her, and I guess

(42:27):
she got to pick. So wewatched Sing again for my birthday. That
was my birthday gift. And thenfor one of her birthdays, she wanted
to watch Sing, so we watchedSing again because now it became a birthday
tradition. And then my nephews reallyliked Sing. So during the pandemic,
we did an outdoor viewing movie attheir house and they picked Sing. And

(42:49):
then we went to camp and wedecided to do a movie and the kids
picked Sing. And then one timethat we watched a movie at my parents
for their outdoor viewing and kids pickedSing. And I think I'm missing a
few times that I've seen Sing.But my point is I've seen Sing a
lot, and it's a movie thathas connected to most of the kids in

(43:13):
my lives, my kids, mynephews, my nieces, and so I've
had to watch a lot of Sing. And I think there's a few things
one, kids like animals, andtwo it's it's an easy movie to follow.
But I think there is something aboutmusic that connects with kids, and
I think definitely something like my daughterand both well both my kids are musicals,

(43:36):
so I could be biased, butI think kids really like music.
And one of the things that makeSing work is the fact that it's songs
that they've heard. It's a lotof sort of pop hits. There's a
lot of pop songs they've heard,and so you get these cute animals singing
songs that they know, and usuallythey're pretty good, catchy songs. And
so it's something that's really connected withkids because with sing you can then listen

(43:59):
to the songs on the radio orafter you could basically relive singing in your
mind by singing those songs after thefact. And so there's that. And
that's a high energy movie. Andso I know a lot of those screenings
that I had, the kids aredancing around and jumping and getting excited.
But one of the things I wantto bring up is that I think musicals

(44:21):
are a lot more popular than studios. Think that there is signs that I
mean, there are musicals that haveflopped in the box office. And I
do get that not everyones into musicals. I know several kind of older people
at least that are just like,they don't like musicals and they don't want
to watch musicals, but I thinkthey connect a bit more with kids.
But what kind of fascinates me isyou look at something to sing which is

(44:44):
without a doubt and musical, andwithout a doubt, something that is that
you know there's gonna be lots ofsinging in it. And it was a
pretty big box office hit. Itdid really well in the box office,
and it's a movie that I've hadseveral kids. I wanted to rewatch it
one billion times, so that I'vewatched a whole bunch of my life to
the point where that was my birthdaytreat. So there's been a lot of

(45:06):
sing in my life. But Ithink it's interesting that it's clear that musicals
are something that works for a decentamount of people, even though there are
pillow push back at it. Butstill to this day, studios are scared
of musicals for some reason. Becausewe got Wonka coming out, and I
had to confirm this, but itlooks like it's a musical. The Willy

(45:28):
Wonka movie with Timothy Chamia that's comingout. It's a musical, But I
recently saw the trailer and there isno sign this thing as a musical.
It doesn't put any of the musicalnumbers in this movie. It just looks
like it's an origin story for Wonka, but it hides the fact it's a
musical. And to this DAMN stillconfused of why studios are so scared of

(45:52):
musicals. We have something like singthat clearly shows musicals work, especially for
a family audience. It's funny becauseI don't blame people if they buy a
ticket to a film and get thereand find out it's a musical and they're
ticked off the way I was jokinglypitching The Witch. If that's how the

(46:16):
studio was pitching it and people gotthere and found out it was actually a
horror, it'd be ticked off.People want to know the type of film
they're seeing, and I think peopleknowing that they're seeing a musical is a
good thing. You don't want badword of mouth, you don't want bad
reactions online. You don't want peopleshowing up, you know, to work
on Monday. How is the film? Oh, it was okay, but

(46:38):
it was a musical. If youpromoted as a musical, they won't be
saying, but it was a musical. I was. It was good.
Right, people are going to seesomething that they're anticipating. I never understood
that idea of trying to mask whattype of film you are, because if
people go see it and it's notwhat they like or it's not what they

(47:01):
were expecting, there's less of achance they're gonna like it. You and
I have to be ready for amovie to be anything, because we're trying
to review it. So we haveto be in a place mentally where Okay,
this wasn't what I was expecting,and we and you know, have
to pivot with that. It's noteasy to do. It's not easy to

(47:22):
get to a place where I feellike I can comfortably pivot. For so
much of my life, if Isat down for a comedy and it turned
out it was, you know,a drama and there was no comedy in
it, I would have said thatmovie sucked because it wasn't what I expected.
And so Hollywood needs to be honestwith people and set them up for
success. It's one of those bigsurprise things like I don't think anyone expected

(47:45):
to be a big hit, andthen I think it did become a massive
hit. I think it was oneof the highest grossing movies of its year.
And then on top of that,like I said, this is a
thing where I've had to see onebillion times and I don't even know if
I'm exaggerating that much. The horrorthat I've seen the most Babba Duck is
the fact that there's such a beautifuldepth to the story here. Not only

(48:09):
that depth to the stories, it'sthis one still terrifies me. I still
feel chills as I watch Essie Davis, who plays Amelia Vani, sitting down
with her son Samuel played by NoahWiseman, and she's reading through this children's

(48:30):
book, The Baba Duck, andI get chills as she's turning the pages
and gets darker and darker. Ilove what Jennifer Kent did with this film,
not just from this idea of whathappens to us when we don't process
our grief and our trauma. Whatyou know, we carry that with us
and it beats us down. Forgetall that. The fact is this movie

(48:53):
still terrifies me. The noises Ihave to watch it in the dark with
my headphones on because the audio isso important to the atmosphere. An absolutely
outstanding film. This is one ofthose great movies that you know we've talked

(49:13):
about in the past, is beingthat groundswell that helped shape what mainstream horror
would become only a few years later. What a great film. One of
the big things about The Babba Duck, Like you said, there is this
depth to it, like it's ahorror movie that is talking about what it's
like to deal with loss, what'slike to lose your spouse, It's dealing

(49:37):
with what's like to be a singleparent, and sometimes the challenges of almost
like what happens when you start hatingyour child or blaming your child, Like
it's dealing with some mediterial And I'vegot quite a few people in my life
that are not fans of horror movies, and it has taken me a very

(49:59):
long years and years, decades anddecades of trying to convince them that horror
movies aren't what they think. Theythink just kind of gore. They think
movies that are just about sort ofkills and it's just constant being scared.
And I think some of those peoplewho they don't want see horror movies because
they don't want to have nightmares,they don't want to be scared. The

(50:20):
Babba Duke probably won't necessarily work forthem, but I think it's one of
the ones where to me, Iwould still show it to someone to show
them like, this is what horrormovies. A good horror movie is about
a Babba duck, an exorcist.Get out those movies. They have depth

(50:42):
to them, they have something tosay. The best horror movies are something
where the fear, like some ofthe fear could like the fear is going
to symbolically be a monster, it'sgoing to be a creature like the Babba
Duke. There is the Babba Dukecreature, but usually it's a metaphor for
something or there's something in the moviethat applies to real life fears. And

(51:06):
I think there is a Catharsis tohorror movies when they're done right, and
there is a lot of ways itcan aid with mental health. It's a
way of a safe way of tacklingreal fears and worries, and this one
really does tackle those things. Thisis why we don't like the term elevated
horror. This is why we haveconstantly, you know, sort of mock

(51:30):
it. There's horror, there's goodhorror, there's bad horror, just like
there's good action movies and bad actionmovies. Elevated horror has been being been
made since the Cabinet of Doctor Callaghary. The The idea of elevated horror has
been around since before theaters were evena thing. When when when actors were

(51:53):
strutting the stage is more so thanbeing on screens. And it's all for
the reasons that Chris you said.Horror is a way of processing things in
our lives, and it becomes metaphorsfor things. The movie called Scream,
but not the first Scream. Thegenera Take a Girl basically says like,

(52:13):
oh, I'm more into elevated horror, like the Babba Duck, and so
the Bubba Duck. It definitely isa symbol or one of the movies that
people kind of holds up as elevatedhorror because it has these things to say,
and like you, it's kind oflike the horror movies, I like,
all have something to say. Thehorror movies I like, at some
way they get into your gut.And they really the best horror movies are

(52:37):
dealing with society. It's dealing withthe fears of society, it's dealing with
what it is to be family.It has real characters you care about.
My favorite, one of my alltime favorite authors is Stephen King, and
most people pay him as a horrorauthor, but if you actually read his
books, you'll realize his books arehis His stories are so character driven.

(53:01):
He's way more interested in the characterand how they respond to the terrors of
the monsters than he is about themonster. And a great horror movie,
even a good horror movie, theones I enjoy, they're almost always character
driven, and it's more about howyou respond to the terror than the terror
itself. I mean, there there'sa lot of horror movies like a Friday

(53:23):
the Thirteenth that is about the kills, and it's focused on the horror things,
and they have their place, andyou've watched those movies are ones you've
rewatched several times. But to me, they're not an example of what actually
makes the genres shine. No,they aren't, because even you know,
a lot of people look disdainfully uponthe slasher era, understandably because a lot

(53:49):
of them were garbage. But Imean, I think we could apply the
term elevated horror to Halloween. Wecan apply it to Nightmare Now Street.
Even though big slasher elements in Nightmareon Elm Street, we can apply elevated
horror to it. I think wecan apply that term to hell Raiser now
that we've rewatched it, and wecould say lust and pain and pleasure and

(54:14):
you know, what are you gettingyourself into? Like, there's stuff there.
We can apply it to Child's Play, a lot of stuff from even
the most disdained era of horror.There's there's a bunch of movies that could
still be considered elevated horror. AndI think, like you said, it
comes from people who think horror isa thing that it never ever really was.

(54:37):
Was there bad mindless horror movies?Yes, But guess what. There's
bad mindless comedies, there's bad mindlessdramas, there's bad mindless biopics, there's
bad mindless family movies, there's badmindless action movies. Why does horror get
defined by its bad ones? Sowe talked a bit about some of these
movies where the first time we sawit we liked it, but through reward

(55:00):
watching, we have connected and likedit a lot more. A movie that
I have probably now seen more thanSing And this once again is because of
my daughter. She definitely likes watchingmovies with me and watching the same ones.
This is another movie that we watcheda few times on her birthdays.
This movie came out before her,so I did not take her to the

(55:22):
theater to see this movie, butshe did very excitedly go to see the
sequel in the theater, which wasreally cool because it was the biggest event
for her. For about a year. She just kept on watching the trailer
to the sequel. And I'm ofcourse talking about a movie that I just
can't let it go. Frozen.It's a movie that I don't know how
eight times I've seen this picture.The first time I saw it, it's

(55:45):
twenty thirteen, so Everett it cameout on twenty thirteen, so Everett's too
young. Ever, doesn't go tohis first theater movie until twenty fifteen.
And that's good. Dinosaur and Dankadoesn't even exist yet. I recommended it,
but I gave it three stars.I was like that, this movie
is fine, and then obviously you'vegot to let it go song the Earbug,

(56:07):
and it's stuck in my head andyou're seeing that, and I'm well
aware of the picture, but Idon't think I revisit it at any point
as just an adult. I wasit till finally Everett's picking movies on a
Friday night and I was like,well, how about we see this Frozen
movie? And he's aware of letit Go. He's well aware of the

(56:28):
song before he's ever seen the movie'sHe saw it several times on YouTube and
such, so he's excited see Frozen. He really likes it. And this
is not the point where it's nottough guy ever yet, So I think
he wanted to rewatch it with mea few times, and he wants to
marry Elsa and all that type ofstuff. Has a crush on Elson,
So we rewatch it a bit withhim, but probably once or twice.

(56:50):
It doesn't come until dank it getsolder, and I mean Frozen. It's
like Frozen, It's been out foryears, but Elsa's now become one of
the iconic and so Danik is alittle girl. She's going to see those
toys, She's gonna see that marketing, so clearly she wants to see the
movie and she falls in love withit instantly, to the point where this

(57:10):
is how my kids operate. Italked about how he ever went off into
another world as India Jones, itwould go treasure hunting and with Star Wars,
he would use the force and tryto use the power throughout the house.
The moment Danikas sees Frozen, wehave to give her an Elsa costume,
which she gets and then she wearsevery single day, and when she's

(57:32):
wearing it, I have to addressher as Elsa. And then she gets
an Anna costume once again, whenshe's wearing it, she has to be
Ana. But not only that,but throughout the day she will re enact
several of the musical pieces from Frozen. When I was looking after her when
she han't gone to school. Yeah, I'm working from home and I'm the

(57:52):
stay at home parent with her.I don't know how many times she reenacted
do you want to build a Snowman? People seen the movie, you know
that it is on Au from theoutside asking Elsa to come out and play,
and she's knocking on the door andthen she sings underneath the crack of
the door. Danky does all thatshe will close the door, sing to

(58:13):
the closed door, sing underneath thecrack in the door, do the whole
thing, okay, bye, andwalk away sad. After that, then
she'll do all let it go,and she do all the actions, and
she would dance around in the familyroom. There was one point I remember
where she was wondering why she couldn'tgo in her pool because the ice was
solid. I so it's because it'sfrozen, and she goes, it's let

(58:36):
it go, and then she wouldburst into singing a song. So she
was way into it. She reenactedit. There's people who probably never seen
Frozen, but they know several ofthe scenes because they know Danik, and
she played it for them. Forprobably her third, fourth, and fifth
birthday, we had to watch Frozen. It was something if ever it wasn't

(58:57):
around and she got to pick amovie. It was Frozen. It has
definitely surpassing. It was an iconicpicture in our family. And I have
to say that now that Dad isa little bit older and so her taste
have expanded, there is a partof this kind of sad that she's not
as obsessed with Frozen. There's somethingabout that kind of first love of your
child, and so I'm talking aboutthis, I'm kind of like, oh,

(59:21):
yeah, everything was about Elsa andAnna in this house and she's moved
past that now. But I dofondly think of our Frozen days and how
it was. That's what our housewas. She I think she had two
Frozen parties. One was for theoriginal Frozen and then Frozen two came out.
So the next year we did Frozenagain, so Emily had to do

(59:43):
two Frozen cakes. If you wantto see those going beyond the balcony.
I've taken pictures of my wife's amazingcakes. They're iconics. She does these
great cakes that she puts the charactersout of Fonding and makes them on the
cakes. Kids love them. Frozenit was a massive part of our in
our family because of Dank and howmuch she loved that series. And I

(01:00:07):
have to say now I have asoft spot. Frozen's a classic now to
me, and part of it isbecause of how much my daughter loved it.
And does she still know that Istill haven't seen Frozen. I am
shocked that that's not the movie shepicked for you last box Office challenge back
when I used to win. Howit goes. I would pick a movie

(01:00:28):
for Scott. Ever, it wouldpick a movie, and ever it would
take great glee and do massive researchand what does Scott hate? And so
he'd look into these horse movies,or he would look into horse musical movies
or horse Victorian musical movies, andonce he found out what you didn't like,
he zeroed in Danika, bless herheart, I'm going to pick a
movie for Scott. He hasn't seenthis movie yet. He needs to see

(01:00:50):
this. And one years she wantedto see Frozen, but unfortunately before Disney
Plus existed and you didn't own theBlu ray and you didn't live in the
same city, so it wasn't goingto work. But last year she could
have picked Frozen for you, andso I'm shocked she never picked it for
you because she has been very brokenhearted and completely baffled that you've never seen
the movie. I kind of wantto never see it until she makes me

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see it because you see it withher. I oh, I would watch
it with her. Yeah, absolutely, I'm just sad that you're not seeing
it with like five year old Danica. I know she would have been so
pumped for that, wouldn't she haveyeah for eight year old Danica, who's
just as cute. But oh yeah, yeah. I was positive that last

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year Frozen was going to get watched. I was positive picking that for me,
but she didn't see it. Justrecently watched Descendants and loved it,
and so she wants to share thatwith It's funny because with Bobba a Duke,
I said, the reason why I'veseen it more than other horror films
is because the year it was released. It was released in twenty fourteen.
That's giving me a lot of timeto see it. Mad Max came out

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in twenty fifteen, lots of timeto see it. However, this next
film came out last year, andI've seen it a bunch of times.
It's become a total comfort food filmfor me. I've even seen it with
director commentary. That is the UnbearableWeight of massive talent, with Nicolas Cage

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and Pedro Pascal. If there arepeople out there who are fans of one,
or either or both of those people, please do yourselves a favor and
watch the Unbearable Weight of massive Talent. They the chemistry in that film between
Nicolas Cage and Pedro Pascal, itis unbelievable. This is one of the

(01:02:46):
most fun bromances I've ever seen.It is just an absolute hoot these It
is like two guys who just lovebeing with each other, and it's terrific.
There's great laughter in here, there'sincredible jokes. The movie goes on

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and these two are talking about thisscreenplay and what type of movie it is.
I love how the actual movie adaptsto be what the script is that
they want to make. Oh,it's gonna be a buddy film. Okay,
the movie is a buddy film.Oh it's gonna have, you know,
action sequences. Then the movie hasaction sequences. I love it.

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Nick Cage is all in on playinga version of himself and that is sort
of what people would believe and thinkfrom a distance. I love that film.
I can't get enough. This isanother example of a movie where the
first time you like it, youkind of like it, but then over

(01:03:52):
time it kind of grows on you. Because I remember when we first watched
this picture, I liked it morethan you because I believe gave it three.
I gave it three and a halfright off the bat. I was
quite a fan of this picture.But it's one where it kind of whittled
away at you to the point whereI wasn't aware you've seen it this often.
Oh, I've seen it a lot. I have seen it. I

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well, since i've seen the director'scommentary, obviously I own it. I
grabbed it. It was on saleon iTunes for I think ten bucks,
and I grabbed it. Unbearable weightof massive talent. For me, it's
hard for me to remember the factthat, Yeah, you liked this movie
more than I did. Yeah,I only gave it a three stars when
I saw it, But it justit's simmered and I watch it and I

(01:04:39):
love you know, the supporting castof Tiffany Hattish, Yeah, I Baron
Holtz in there. The unbearable weightof massive talent. If you haven't seen
it and you're a fan of eitherNicholas Cage or Patrio Pascal or for those
wise people out there, you're afan of both of them, you got
to check it out. Yeah.I really want encourage people to check this

(01:05:01):
movie out because I think it wasa year before This Pig came out and
it was sort of this Nicolas Cagehe does a lot of movies. He's
very prolific. He has a lotof movies every year, and a lot
of us sort of straight to videoand they get forgotten, and Pig was
destined to be one of those.But then all of a sudden, critic
Son said, oh, this isnot what we're expecting. This is actually

(01:05:24):
a really good movie, and itgot a lot of critical attention, and
so Pig was considered this movie thatI think because it got this critical attention
and people will realize, Oh,Nicholas Cage is actually still really talented.
He doesn't phone it in, eventhough he does a bunch of movies,
something you and I already believed withstuff like Joe and such, But Pig
seemed to be the one that gothim back to the conversation, and I

(01:05:45):
think it's because of Pig. Andthen Renfeld and unbearable way of Massive Talent
actually got theatrical releases. They gottheatrical releases. There's this idea that Nicholas
Cage was going to get a Cageof Sans, but unfortunately Ranfeld and Massive
Talent and not do Gray in thebox office. And so I'm scared that

(01:06:06):
we're now getting Nicolas Cage back beingpushed into the ether when I want him
to get more theatrical pictures, andso please support this movie. It is
one of the best buddy action comedies, not of recent years, one of
the best buddy action comedies period period, exactly. Lots of reason to see

(01:06:28):
it, so please do. Yeah, so please support it. And one
of the great things I think aboutNicolas Cage, what I've always liked him
about an actor, there's a lotbecause he throws himself in it. He's
not scared of being weird, he'snot scared of being going over the top.
But one of the things I've alwaysliked about Nicholas Cage, it's so
clear and massive talent, is Idon't think he takes himself too seriously,

(01:06:51):
and he's well aware of how peopleperceive him, and he leans into it.
He leans into it. Yeah,you can joke, Oh, he
must spend all his money, probablydid it, so I think he definitely
didn't do He's eccentric, yes,But if you look at the people who
do so, there was Bruce Willis, John Travolta, and Nicholas Cage who

(01:07:13):
would just be in a lot ofmovies each year. But unlike Bruce Willis
and John Travolta, each and everysingle time Nicolas Cage is in a movie,
he's bringing everything he's got and hedoes a terrific job. My last
movie is similar to Frozen in alot of ways, but one of them

(01:07:34):
is the fact that the first timeI saw it, I liked it.
And then it wasn't after my daughtermaking me watch it again and again and
again that I realized, no,I love this, and this is a
Disney classic. And I am nowtalking about Juanna, a movie that I
saw in theater and I liked ita lot. You put it on your

(01:07:57):
best of the year list, itjust missed mine. And then I took
ever to see in the theater andI realized, oh, this is a
lot better than I thought. Andthen again Danias sort of got the age
of time for her to see themovie, and I think seeing her energy
and how that movie connected to her, I realized, no, this is
a classic. And then Mowanna eventuallyreplaced Frozen as the this is the movie

(01:08:23):
we need to watch all the time. And then I have some nieces and
they came over a Nissa and nephewactually came over for a sleepover, and
they had to watch Mowanna. Hadthey seen it before, of course,
but you need to watch Mowanna again, and now we need to see it
in a new house. And thenwe were in a different house at a
cottage, and they now needed tosee it at a cottage because the movies

(01:08:45):
are better we can see them innew locations. You need to see a
movie at every possible location. You'reat a cottage where we have to see
Mowanna there because I saw it atmy uncle's house, but now I need
to see at the cottage. Andnow he needs to see at our house
because it makes Mowana better. Andof course then you have to see Mowanna
outside as well. But yes,I've seen Mowana many times, and it
is a movie now that I thinkit tells you. You know, when

(01:09:09):
there's a movie that you initially likedbut you realize you've got it wrong,
it's actually a great movie where whenyou rewatch it and you like it more
every time rather than gain sick ofit. And Malana is one where I've
liked it more and more every timeI've seen it. And one of the
things that I think I really loveabout Mojuana is the message. Because obviously

(01:09:30):
my daughter likes movies where people breakout into son and dance, and she
obviously loves princess movies. But thegreat thing about Mojuana is she's such a
strong princess. There's never the princethat saves her. You got Maui,
but Maui's not the one that savesthe day. He's not the one that
solves the problem. It's Mojuana.Moluana is the one who has to in

(01:09:51):
herself prove that she's a strong woman, she's capable being a leader of her
island, and that she solves theproblems herself. Is it goes against a
Disney formula. This is not aprincess who a damn's own distress. It's
not a princess in peril. Thisis a princess who when she's in peril,
she solves it herself. She endsup being the strongest character in the

(01:10:12):
movie. It's an inspiring movie.It's a princess that I was more than
happy to buy the costume for Danica. I love the fact that she got
dressed into it every single day andshe wanted to be a Mowanna because Mowanna
is a strong, independent woman.That's what my daughter's going to be,
that's what her mom is, that'swhat her grandma is. It's strong,
powerful woman who stand up for themselvesand Ma wanna symbolize that. And so

(01:10:36):
it's such a great message. Andon top of that, it's got some
catchy songs. I think I likethe Maluanna songs better than the Frozen songs.
I do. Yeah, I meanyou could say, well, that's
because you don't know the Frozen songs. So you when I talked about mad
Max Fury Road and you were talkingabout your experience of you know, this

(01:10:58):
is a film that you've just seenthe one time time and it sticks in
your head. The exact same thingwith me and Miluana is it sticks in
my head. I remember watching itin the theater and being amazed, number
one by the animation. I thinkit was just so gorgeous, like the
colors and the crispness of everything,but the songs and the the energy that

(01:11:24):
everyone was putting into their characters.It was absolutely incredible. And yeah,
I can't remember where on my topten list at landed, but I absolutely
loved that film and I've got nothingbut but fond memories of it. It's
definitely not Damsel in distress story.But yeah, one of the things I

(01:11:45):
loved about Milwana was the strength ofthe character and the just the passion and
drive of her. And yeah,if I had a daughter and she wanted
to, you know, fashion herselfafter Milana, I'd have no problem with
that. And I think that's oneof the things I really like Miljuanna too,
is she's a strong character, butshe is flawed and there is an

(01:12:06):
actual character arc, and she hasto improve and grow, and she's got
some attitude, and so I likethat because again it's something that Dage can
connect to his Molana is a hero, but she's flawed and she makes some
mistakes. And my daughter someone who'sgot the biggest heart in the world and
the friendliest person, but gosh doesshe do things that driving nuts every single

(01:12:30):
day. And so she just shereminds me a lot of Moluanna. She's
got that attitude, she's got thatspunk, she's got that precociousness, she's
got that habit of constantly stealing herbrother's candy, got it all, but
she's still beautiful and wonderful. AndI think that's Mowanna, just to remind
of all the princesses I believe mydaughter's the most like Miljuana. That's awesome.

(01:12:54):
I think that's I think that's terrific. And to answer the question,
mo Wuanna was your number five five? Oh thank you? It was.
What a great film. You wouldif we were revisiting though, you'd have
it up there right if we dida revisit of twenty sixteen based off watching

(01:13:14):
Mowanna a lot. Now how manytimes I've seen it and where I have
it, Mowana is in. It'sin the top three spot. It might
even end up being my favorite moviethat year. Now, that's awesome.
I need to rewatch it just becauseof how much I loved it. I
really do. Because these are thefive movies that have been the most rewatched
since we've started this podcast. Andagain my list is very clear of h

(01:13:38):
You're a Parent. The Lego Batmanmovie. It was actually a toss up.
I wasn't sure if it was gonnabe a Lego Batman movie or Spider
Man into the Spider Verse. BecauseI went to the theater twice for that
one as well to take Everett andI showed it forever back when it came
on Netflix, and then he wantedto show it to Danika, and so
that's one. But I think LegoBatman just eked it out because we own

(01:14:00):
that one, so we weren't relyingon it being on a streaming service so
we could watch it even more.And then number four Star Wars episode seven,
The Force Awakens, But that's goingto move up the list because I'll
be showing it to my daughter soonDanica. Then sing which I have watched
it with every single person that hassome kind of blood relation to me.
I have that one is singing inmy ears right now. Let speak of

(01:14:25):
singing Frozen. I've probably heard mydaughter say let it go, singing let
it Go more than I've seen themovie. But I've had Frozen in my
life twenty four seven for several years. And then my number one, because
after it replaced Frozen, this thenbecame the must see movie Mulwana. It's
a really good list, and youcan tell that I do not have kids,

(01:14:45):
because my list is Game Night,a movie that actually my wife and
I were talking recently about rewatching yetagain Mad Max, which we actually were
talking about rewatching once again of Egypt, which if you have to remember,
there's reason why it's on the list, it's not because it's the best film

(01:15:06):
I've ever seen. Then The BabaDuck just terrific horror film that I I'll
never say no to watching that,and then The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent,
a movie that came out last yearbut still ends up on this list
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movie, not to be confused withthe early two thousands one, and we're
gonna have a lot to talk aboutit. It is a movie from this
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It's a fun film. I thinkyou should check it out and we're looking
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so long to make this kind ofmovie. Took this time because Dungeons of
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and during that same time, Ithink one of the reasons why it
took me forty years to get intoDungeons at Dragons, it's because there were
satanic panic connected to Dudgeons of Dragonsin the nineteen eighties and I was raised

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a conservative Christians. So we'll talkabout all that kind of stuff, plus
the movie next week. So itshould be a really fun show. Oh,
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