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July 26, 2025 24 mins
Annette May Tucker is an American songwriter, who found success in the 1960s as co-writer of songs for The Electric Prunes ("I HAD TO MUCH TO DREAM LAST NIGHT", "GET ME TO THE WORLD ON TIME"), The Brogues ("I AINT NO MIRACLE WORKER"), The Knickerbockers ("A Coming Generation"), Nancy and Frank Sinatra ("Feelin' Kinda Sunday") and others. In 1961, as an aspiring songwriter, she met musician and songwriter Al Hazan, and together they wrote "Stick Around", which Tucker recorded. It was released as a single byPiper Records in Los Angeles in 1962. 

I want to re-produce this recording of my dear friend, Annette Tucker. She is lovely and talented. A famous songwriter, composer, and Fashionista. This is to remind her of how special she is to me and God. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Are you ready to live your dream? Motivation, inspiration, and passion,
That's what it takes to make dreams come true. Welcome
to the Naya Sahari Show. Our guests will share important tips, insights,
and knowledge to help you fulfill your dreams of success.
Here's your host, actress, author, entrepreneur, Nadia Sahari.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Good evening, This is Nadia Sahari with the Nadia Sahari Show.
I have the most wonderful, wonderful guest. I'm so honored
to have her. She's my dear, dear friend, which I love,
whom I love, and she is an excellent American songwriter
with much success. We're going to talk about her music
and her songwriting and everything. Otherwise, I would love to

(01:00):
introduce my dear friend, Annett Tucker. Antt Tucker, Welcome to
the Nadia Sahari Show. You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, thank you for having me, Nadia.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's an honor and it's a pleasure, and I'm so excited.
How are you this evening?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
I am great? How are you? And it's good to
hear your voice because I miss you.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I miss you and I miss you. And as all
this mess clears up with airports and weather. It's horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
You are an intricate part of my life and we
have great memories that we made together with our videos
and our songwriting and your recording. It was just something
I'll always remember.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh me too, Me too, especially when we went and
recorded that song that you wrote, the muck and the
lyrics too.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh yes, didn't we have fun? We did. We had
a great time and you did a great job.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
And thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
It was your first recording, yes, and I remember it
very very well. But the people had to be there
to appreciate what we went through.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I know, I know, I know, but I'll have to
It's my first time, so it was I was nervous,
of course, but I think that it's going to be
really good. And let's talk about You've written so many songs,
and let's start with uh, the Electric Prunes because I

(02:47):
had Too Much to Dream last night, which is still
playing in Europe and doing very well. Talk about that
and how you came about writing something like this, What
inspired you?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well? I Had Too Much to Dream is a classic
at this point, and I'm astounded all the time to
see how many people keep recording it, and it gets
in so many movies, and commercials, and it's just mind
blowing because it was written so long ago. I think,
I guess it's about forty years ago, but it's held up.

(03:26):
And I came up with this title and I was
writing with Nancy Mans, who was my great collaborator, and
we wrote this song in a half hour. It was
one of those things where she got the lyric right
away and my melody came right away. And I recorded

(03:49):
it myself as a demo as a country song, because
that's what we kind of envisioned it as or else.
First we thought it was going to be like a
rolling Stone kind of thing, a real heavy rock, and
then when they did the demo at four Star Music,
who owned it them, they turned it into a country song.

(04:12):
Now everybody turned this song down. I was giving a
party for my ex husband and I had this great
group that was going to play, and I don't know why,
I just said, you know, I have a song i'd
like you to hear, and I played it and I
still have the recording. I probably should have sent it

(04:35):
to you because it's really funny. Just hear what I
sounded like and what they did with this song, and
they were incredible. They turned this song into a psychedelic
garage band, nothing like what we did. It was like
all these great effects in it. And it's the people

(04:58):
that know that song that remember the time always say
you wrote that song because it doesn't sound like a
woman would have written them, because they turned it into
such a heavy rock kind of thing, psychedelic because that
was what was in at that time. But I'm very
proud of that song because it kind of made the

(05:19):
Electric Prunes and put Nancy and I in a very
good place too, because then after that we kept getting
requests for songs and songs like that, and then we
did their whole album practically except for one or two
little songs, but we wrote all the songs in their
album because the Dave Hassinger, the producer, he wanted a

(05:43):
variety of songs that we had to do, sort of
some kind of weird songs that we wouldn't have normally done,
but and they didn't really want to cut them either,
but he wanted us to do these silly kind of
songs and that we would have never even written. And
the album was, it's great, and like I said, there's
so many cuts of it. There's always a new one

(06:05):
popping up somewhere.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's wonderful. Well, we're gonna play it in a little
bit so the audience can hear it. And I've heard it.
I love it, and I mean it's incredible. You've written
songs for so many famous people such as Freddy Cannon,
Frank Sinatra, Nancy Sinatra. What was it the Brogues that

(06:29):
wrote that, saying I am.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, the Brogues did. I ain't no miracle worker. And
it was the number one song in Italy and probably
nobody here even knows the song, but it was. It
was and still is a major major.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Thing.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's a major record over there. There's commercials on that
all the time, and that has so many recordings on it.
And that was not like a song that we would
have said, oh my god, we wrote the great song.
We just wrote it, yeah, and turned it in and
and we don't know how all this happened, but it happened.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's great. Well, look, let's shall we play I had
too much to Dream last night?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
And why don't you play a little bit of it?

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, we'll play a little bit. Here we go. I
had too much to Dream last night written by A Nette.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Go where you shout to come with me.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
And.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
You don't have so much to drink, so much to drink,

(08:37):
and you let's drink bad time, bad time.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Do you know where a everybody most of the time
thought it was I had too much to drink last night. Yes,
because I was listening to it just now, and I said,
you know, I wouldn't know. If I didn't know, I
could think it was I had too much to drink
last night because I can't hear the m I.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Know, but I tell you I love the beat to
the song and the whole song. I just love it.
I just love it. It makes you want to dance
and jump around. It's hard to say still.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, I can't tell you. The Electric Prunes did an
incredible job. The lead singer, James, he sang it really good.
And I really am proud of that song.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
You should be. You should be. And you also co
wrote I Get Carried Away for Tom Jones that he
sang that. Yes, and yeah, and you're kind of love
with Rick Nelson. You've written a song for a lot
of big names.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, I have, I've been lucky.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yes, the Jackson five.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yes, you have a story.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
You have a story about the Jackson five.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Well, my other collaborator, Kathy Wakefield, and I were with
Don Costa and we wrote a song, uh for a
girl that he was going to cut. And I was
at some sort of a cocktail party one night and
I ran into Hal Davis, who was the producer, and

(10:35):
he said to me, I've got this great group and
and he said, I want to play something for you
and I want you to to write a song. And
we listened to the song, and then we had these
these songs that we already had done and and he said,

(10:57):
I'm going to show it to the Jackson's and they
like it. I want to cut it and I'll let
you know. Well ps. He never did call, so we
totally forgot about it. And forty years later, which is
in twenty twelve, I got this call from Universal. I

(11:20):
actually got an email from Universal saying we are looking
for you. We want to talk to you. The Jackson
five have a song that you wrote in an album
that we put out and we've been trying to find you.
So I called and I found out that we were
in this album and called Rare Pearls come and get it.

(11:42):
And of course there were a lot of other songs,
but what they were were songs that were left in
a drawer that the jackson said cut. And I don't
know how they found him or anything, because I never
did get the story. But somehow, some way this song,
two songs got in there. One of them is the
lead song called if you Want Heaven on the B side,

(12:05):
uh and on the ace there's two of them, part
one and part two, and I think we're part two
called if you Want Heaven. And that's what happened with that.
That was really exciting.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Wow, that is And we're gonna play if you Want
Heaven as well in a little bit. And that's incredible,
isn't it incredible?

Speaker 4 (12:26):
How?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I mean, you just never know what's going to happen.
And we were never You never.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Never know, you never never. And these songs are all
old songs, and I'm always astounded when I hear they're
in some movie or I just say, oh my god,
how did they know that?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I know, it's incredible, it is.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
You're amazing, and you you just amaze me. I I
have seen you write, I have seen how you work
when you're writing, and it's something that you do every
day of your life, every second that's what you think
of all the time. It's what you're doing, it's your life.
And I've seen you and I just marvel at that.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Oh, thank you. I love my music. I love writing lyrics.
It's very stimulating. It's very creative and great to think
of ideas. Sometimes you say, oh my god, where did
that come from? Put it down on a piece of paper.
I have a whole list of things that I think
of every day. Or here I hear a phrase or something,

(13:40):
I go ooh, that would be a great song.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Isn't that something I know I would love to I
do think a little bit like you do in that respect.
And I've written stuff and I think about when someone
says a phrase or something or I go, wow, that
sounds like you should be a song. But you know
where I'm different as I forget to write it down,

(14:05):
or I write it down and forget where I wrote
it down. It's so crazy.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh, thankfulness for the smartphone with with the with the
microphone in there, because I if I think of something
in the middle of the night, I click on my
button and I say and I announce it to that
or else I'd never remember in the morning.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh that's a good idea. That's a very good idea.
And isn't that funny how when you're lying down trying
to sleep, or are thinking about things, and how things
in your mind kind of make sense and you start
thinking things and they really sound good, and you go,
why can't I think about that when I'm awake?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
You're so right? I find if I'm writing a song
and I'm really exhausted, and I go to sleep, and
I sleep maybe for an hour. So when I wake up,
all of a sudden, i almost am writing the whole song,
and I'm dictating to this microphone, and I say, oh
my god, why didn't I think of that before?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
And I say to myself, why can't I think of
these words when I'm awake? It makes so much sense
when I'm lying here.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
It's crazy, That's what I understand.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
But I'm gonna have to use my recorder. So we're
gonna play Jackson five right now and part of it
and so everyone can hear it. And here we go,
And this is written by Annette as well Jackson five.
It's called Oh if you want happen what happened? Here

(15:34):
we go Jackson five? Give you woman to.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Every pay.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
While you and that.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Jimmy you're calling.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Cutting your own body and why you can.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Do replay stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Wonderful. What inspired you to write those lyrics?

Speaker 3 (17:26):
What was the inspiration? Because I didn't write the words.
I wrote the music on this one, and Kathy Wakefield
wrote the lyrics. I don't know. We must have. She
probably came up with that title and and then I
I don't even remember whether she wrote the words first
or I wrote the music after she had written the words.

(17:49):
I honestly don't remember, but it was fun. We wrote it,
as I said, for a little girl that Don Costa
was gonna cut right. And I don't know. I think
that deal must have fallen through, like all the rest
of them do from time to time. And I had
that opportunity with running into how Davis, who unfortunately is

(18:12):
not with us anymore. But that was really exciting, and
it was exciting hearing that at the time, and it's
in the album Come and Get It Rare Pearls, and.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
There's also a lot of others. It's a great thank
you well. I love the music too, and the music
is incredible.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Thank you, Nadia. That was then things have changed a lot,
and the things have changed yes, they have, but but
we haven't changed right now.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
But you know what, it's true, things have changed. But
just think of this, everything that you have written, everything
and recorded and have others have recorded and everything, it's
all going to still exist. It's all going to live on.
I mean you, Yes, you have done something. You have

(19:11):
given yourself a legacy here and it's beautiful and you've
written a lot. So this, all this music is going
to continue no matter.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
I always say, the music never ends, never, thank goodness ever.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yes, and it's beautiful and you're still writing. So you're
not finished yet, girl.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh no, I'm not. I'm always involved in a project
that I've had, I have, I have to write. I
love to write, and I keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And that's doing it. Yes, and you should and because
that is God's gift to you. You You are incredible
and you should never stop. And I know you won't.
I mean, this is your life and I've seen it
and yes, and that's why you're good because you do
it every day.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Oh yeah. Well I also still teach and I never
gave that up. I still teach and and still have students.
And that's really special for me because it's very exciting
to see someone improve and write their songs and have
come in where they have somewhat talented lyrics that are

(20:33):
good and all of a sudden they kind of get
it and and I see them write these great songs,
and some of them, some of my students have become
very famous.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Like yes, and I know what. I forgot the name though?
What was the name? It's a female?

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh had that question ready before? I know, I can't
think of her name's called. I know me too, we
both have that.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Okay, it's okay, Well, you know what, you still are teaching,
You still have students and everything. How can someone get
a hold of you if they're interested in becoming a
student of yours.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Well, they can email me at a net Music twenty
one at aol dot com.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Okay, and you're on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I'm on Facebook, uh huh.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
And you're the Wikipedia. Everybody go read Wikipedia. Read about
a Nette Tucker and look at all the people that
you made famous.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah. Wikipedia is something else too. I didn't know anything
about Wikipedia. But they they do research and they find
out about the things that you do. Oh yeah, very
very interesting.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's right. Yes, they do they check and investigate and
you definitely have to definitely have to be who you
say you are.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
You better believe it.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yes, so, and that it's been so wonderful to have
you as my guest. I mean, you're my dearest friend.
I love you so much and I love having this
and of course I'm going to have you on again.
And this is like so wonderful for me because I

(22:38):
have your voice here and I can listen to the show.
Everyone can listen to the show. It's going to be
in the iTunes store, and the podcasts are go everywhere,
so they go all over the world. And I think
it's wonderful and I so appreciate the fact that you
took your time tonight to do this with me.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
So you know, I feel very close to you, and
I think you're very talented. All your books that you've
written and your scripts and the movies and your talent.
Someone should be interviewing you.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well one day, we'll probably, David, it might be the
one that interviews me one day. Oh, I hope we're
gonna yes, yes as soon as I am.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
And good luck with your gorgeous new house too.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, thank you very much, thank you. Yeah, we love it,
we really do.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
So.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I want to thank you so much and You're wonderful
and I'll be talking to you real soon and God
bless you.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I love you, thank you, love you too, thank.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
You bye, good night, sweetheart, good night.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Thanks for coming in with Nadia and her guests.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
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