May 11, 2023 • 46 mins
The Nerd Clan. gets together to talk about Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3. Thoughts and Score
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To the Nerve Box. Dudes,Major, I'm dum and today we're doing
a review on For some the highlyanticipated Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three been
a little bit of an offense forpeople on this one. She thought about
it, well, me personally,when I went into this movie, I
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was looking for something totally different thanwhat I got. So I was going
into this movie looking for like straataction pack final for the trilogy, you
know what I mean. But youreally get a heartful end into the trilogy,
you know what I mean. Ithas its ups and it's down moments.
It gives you a lot of insighton Rocket Raccoon, and it was
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it went a completely opposite direction ofwhat I thought it was going to go.
So my initial score for this waslore then what it is now after
I realized, like, you haveto go into this movie looking at it
in a different perspective, and youknow, and we hadn't talked about it.
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For me, it was the completeopposite, you know. I felt
like going into this movie and comingout it fulfilled on something that had already
been building up on. And tome, it wasn't necessarily the action.
It's a it's a family story.You know, the first movie was about
finding family, the second one wasabout having the I would say, the
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genetic family versus the found family.And then the third one is basically sustaining
it, you know, Like yousaid, it's got its ups and downs.
I enjoyed the action sequences, itwasn't as many as the first one.
I liked the first one a littlebit better. I'm not gonna lie.
You know, the first movie isdefinitely the better of the three three
year the second movie they really couldhave did without that movie. The only
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thing you really gained out of thatwas within Mantis. Yeah, that's the
only thing you really gained out,you know. And then knowing that Peter
Quill is yeah human Yeah yeah.Other than that, like they really could
have deal without that. To me, the second one, the third one
just shows how empty of a shellthe second one was, you know,
because we, like you said,we got the bits of information. You
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know, it was a Peter Quillstory, and from what I'm understanding about
this whole trilogy, that Rocket wasthe secret protagonist. And if that's the
case, then the second movie isbasically pointless. Yeah you know, but
but you know, um, whichwhen you're right they did kind of make
it seem like he was the realleading role for he really he really isn't
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when you go back and look atit. They've really been plugging this in
for Rocket this entire time, youknow, and whether everything went like it
was supposed to, because I knowhe didn't intend for Gomra to be killed
in Avengers End Game, but hestill made it work. To me,
I like the way that it ended, you know, like it was an
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emotional film. They was up anddown everywhere. They was pulling it hard
strings everywhere they could. You know, I like the character growth on a
Nebula in Mantis, two of myleast favorite characters, and I actually enjoyed
watching them in this movie. Butyou know, Nebula really switched around in
that Avengers movie. So when theystarted showing you a difference, yeah,
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you know what I mean, andshe kind of I don't know exactly when
the swap came, but they definitelymade the swap real known. Yeah,
And that's why I think I likedGo more. I mean not more Nebula
a lot more among the Mantis matterof fact drags too, because the to
me, those three characters were ina stalemate like they were having no character
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growth whatsoever. Dracks was this dumbstrong dude, which and I mean he's
still that shout the third deal is, but they really they touched Veil,
like, yeah, what his realcalling is? And you know that's something
I really I forgot about. Youknow, I forgot his whole I lost
my family and I was a fatherand all of this. So it was
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nice that they actually came back andbrought some of that full circle, you
know what I'm saying. So it'slike everybody didn't get these grand closures,
but everybody got some type of closure. And the death thing kind of that
through me though I was expecting somebodyto die. What I mean, you
you kind of spoil and took awaythat from everyone that didn't know that.
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Oh this wasn't It's crazy, right, Yeah, it's crazy. But I
mean yeah, they definitely tease thatthroughout the past year, that someone's gonna
die. But I don't know ifthey more of tease it or more of
it got put out there as arumor. But then after it was put
out there as a rumor, nowyou start to see those little bit of
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elements them kind of saying someone's gonnadie in the trailer. Yeah, and
then it's crazy because once you goin the movie, there's certain things that
you see in the trailers at thebeginning. Well, you know, it
might have just been a rumor startedfrom the trailers. I think we were
all just expecting some epic, youknow, things like that to happen.
Yeah, but I mean I don'tI don't think that it's a rumor that
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started front the trailers, because thetrailers started coming out after those rumors came.
Oh yeah, it's probably one ofthose uh them scoopers. Yeah.
And then once that came out inthe trailer, they put like scenes in
there that make it seem like someonedied, but all that happened at the
beginning, and nothing happened. Mybad out of spoiler, y'all. But
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yeah, other than that, though, man, I like the character growth
on the characters. Man, evensome of the background characters. You know,
they got some shine time in it. Yeah. Yeah, like Um,
the replacement for Um was the namedy'all do Yeah, the the guy
that adopted all people. Yeah.Yeah, and it's kind of like your
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um the next in line passing onthe torch kind of thing. Yeah,
And you know, what. Honestly, I got that vibe a lot throughout
the movie. You know, itfelt like a lot of it was a
passing a torch type of film,you know it. Yeah, I got
that sense from a lot of characters. You know, you could see the
connections that were built between certain characterswere stronger than others. You know,
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especially with characters like Rocket Nebula.I ain't think about how close they had
done gotten between the little blip.Yeah, you know, you know she
she really pointed out, like,hey, he he's a genius, Like
he made this other arm from mewhen I didn't have the arm and man,
and I love the Nevula grades.Man, oh my god, the
nepulave. I'm a fan of nevulast you could see now yeah, now
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too late. But you know what, she really didn't have nothing to be
a fan of in the first one. She was an angry robot person.
Yeah. And what is crazy aboutit is because you know we're not going
to talk about it right now,is she's not even the bad one?
No, no, which is thecrazy party? Know, they do a
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good job at highlighting that. Ithink they did a good job at highlighting
where we were with Goamore as acharacter, because that whole movie, the
end Game, it left for usall, you know, kind of like,
well, what's going on with theGuardians? You know, they kind
of answered that to some degree,but you know, with them bringing back
go Moore, I feel like theycould have did without her. They really
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could have just left her dead.And you know what, I don't think
it was ever the intent of JamesGunn to kill off Gamore, Are you
sure? I'm pretty sure, AndI think that was a move made by
Disney and then he just kind ofhad to live with the consequences of that
and make a movie around it,which is why I was like, I
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kind of liked Kady they handled it, yeah, you know, because I
really don't think that that character orhe intended for it, but it wasn't
his cart and you know, atthe end of the day, so yeah,
I mean that, you know,all he could do is you know,
go along with the train, theengine, you know, make your
money. Yeah, make your money, you know, make your money.
And he definitely made his money withthis one. You know, as far
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as trilogies go, you know,it's one of those trilogies that you didn't
think what's gonna end out? Allwell? But but all right, trilogy
wise, from the trilogy trilogies thatwe've gotten so far, where does this
one rank? Okay? Because trilogywise personally, don't be harsh on the
second personally, because if we're talkingtrilogies and MCU, we got what Thor
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Iron Man Captain America. Well,and you can say Thor, but Thor's
four movies technically, but I don'tlike the count Love and Thunder because they
knew they should to stop it threemovies, and which is crazy that I'm
even saying that now, because there'sbeen that whole announcement where they're only doing
trilogies now, so they're not gonnago beyond. But he's having enough,
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but he's but they're kind of toodeep with him already, you know.
But I'm as far as the maintrilogy go, because Thor, Love and
Thunder didn't feel like it was reallypart of the main Thor trilogy. It
felt like a standoff to introduce theJane Thor and other characters like Love and
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and to get off on famous comicbook characters like Gore to God Butcher who
really didn't do any god butching atall. Yeah, his character's real,
you know, it really was.So that's why I'm not counting that movie.
I'm gonna say Thor Man and CaptainAmerica. A man had a trilogy.
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Man had a trilogy. Who elsehad a trilogy? I think those
Spider Man, he had a trilogy. Uh sorry, man, I already
say iron Arson. Uh so yourIron Man, Captain America, Thor Spider
Man, Guardians of the Galaxy.Um, and we just said one and
we missed it. But neither hearnor that it is here, but we
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stu. I did like Captain Americawas one of my favorite trilogies. My
only problem with that you have tobe involved with the rest of the movies
to really understand his trilogy. SoI ended up putting his trilogy is like
number two for me. I wasdigging Iron Man, which is probably gonna
be my number one on the trilogy. But I didn't care for the third
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movie I was I was with Imean, you know what third movie.
I didn't care for the third movieand I definitely don't care for now after
shan Chi. You know what,in movies like that show how some of
these movies really don't age that well, you know, and then shan Chi
really just tossed it out there.They actually showed the actual um mandarin.
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Yeah, and that was what everybodywas waiting for. So but then the
way that they did it was wascompletely different because he didn't actually have rings.
He had rings like sonic Yeah rings, you know what I mean.
And I'm doing this if if we'redoing this, I know Thor's bottom tear
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for me. As far as thetrilogy goes, yeah, I don't know
that. The first one was prettydecent. Yeah, the third one was
the best out of the four,because I did. I did like Captain
Now the Spider Man. I likeall three of those. That's number one
on my trilogy list. I enjoyedthe entire trilogy. There was things I
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wish they would have did differently,but you know, as a whole,
it was good. It was cohesive. The final movie was epic Captain America.
I'm actually gonna put that at numbertwo thinking about it. I really
did enjoy the trilogy. And eventhough you had to be really up on
the other movies that kind of geta base, especially for Civil War.
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Te Civil War, it was cool, but man, it was a bunch
of character. The Winter Soldier,The Winter Soldier was he was a winner,
had a winner. No, I'mtalking about the second Winter Soldiers,
like my favorite oh yeah yeah,yeah, yeah yeah. But the my
favorite moment in a Captain America movieis definitely when to Chola popped up.
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Yeah, and I and you can'tknock that. And like I said,
his series, you know, youjust had to be inclusive to all the
movies. So I would put SpiderMan Captain America. Probably iron Man right
after that, definitely, not thorit's gonna be at man um or no,
you know what. Definitely, yeah, oh yeah, most definitely.
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I would put Guardians right after myright after my iron Man series, right
before A Man and the Iron Manwas what three? Yeah, and then
so so Guardians would be my fourand then A Man would be my fu.
I don't know about that. Andyou know what, I as crazy
as it sounds, after this particularGuardians movie, I believe it's it's higher
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up iron And the only reason andthe only reason I say that because I
really don't too much care for thesecond one. The second one was fine.
I didn't I didn't mind the secondone because I had been tired of
the going against a villain that's basicallythe evil version of them. You know,
that had been done, but Imean that the Hulk, and they
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were planning on doing it with CaptainAmerica. We knew they had to do
it like that. In all,honestly, the third one was better than
the second one. But the IronMan, Yeah, story wise, I
just didn't like the fact that Ididn't put Demander in it, which is
why I didn't care for that movie. Yeah, and the Extremist Project,
but I which is probably why theyended up putting him in Sean Chi because
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they kind of yeah, explains itbecause he yeah, it was actually in
it, so you know, which, well, I get it. You're
sorry, you know, you apologize. You know it's too late for it,
but you apologize. I get it. You know, they tried to
kill my boy off. He wasfunny and he did a good manner,
and I thought, you know,and even though they chose an actual Asian
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character portray to portray the band init. But you know, it seems
like Disney is pushing more towards stayingtrue to um cultures, which I can
appreciate. Honestly, I hate whitewashcharacters. Characters you know, should have
been of a certain race, andeven though they have fairer skin, they
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can fit the man with a whitecharacter. Why not just go for fledge.
If you're gonna try to go thisdeep to be this accurate science wise
and all information, why not beactually accurate as well, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,and I and I could appreciate that.
And you know, it's as faras The Guardian's movie. You know,
you got to see that they appreciateall of Earth's cultures and stuff like that.
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Speaking of which, you know,they and they talked about it.
You know, they're listening to thedifferent musics they they're using. Uh,
they did the Christmas Special in thewhole different series, but you know,
you kind of you kind of geta woman that on what everybody living on
that head. Yeah, but Idon't know, it just seemed like the
Christmas Special was just to give thecharacter, like certain characters just a little
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bit more development for this movie.And I think that was specifically for Madness
and Drags. Yeah, and itreally shows in this movie because of the
influence that each of them have oneach other. Yeah, but with the
insight that they gave you on Rocketwithout giving away any spoilers right now,
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how do you feel about the insight? Like is it was it something that
you was looking for? Did theygive you what what everyone was asking for
for all these years? Like youknow, with Rocket, I love the
story that they told on him.I felt like they might have could have
gave us a little more. Asfar as when the movies were coming together,
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they never really hinted at any ofthis. You know, everybody knows
who the villain is, the highevolutionary, and apparently he's just been known
and we didn't know that, whichis kind of weird to me. And
I mean, like big known aroundthe universe. So it's like that part
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kind of threw me. But asfar as the rest of the story,
oh Man, definitely one of thebetter origin stories I've seen recently in MCU
in the past what years. Yeah, Yeah, it's not nothing like I'm
just out of the newer stuff thatwe'd be getting. Like Sean Chi was
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definitely one of my favorites. Thatwasn't but it well no, yeah it
was. When did that come outin twenty nineteen, I don't know,
I can't remember I think it wastwenty nineteen. If I mean, if
it was eighteen, I know thatkind of fits, and that's fair.
Thought it about people, that's fiveyears. That's five years fair, that's
fair. But I think it wasI want to say it was twenty nineteen.
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Oh oh oh, then I'm verywrong. But yeah, that was
one of my more favorite origin storiesin the last four years recently. Yeah,
you know, the Kamala Khan thingwas cool. You know, I
don't think they're going anywhere with theMarvel. I mean, the Mutants ain't
getting Marvel, but you know,it was it was nice that they was
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thinking about us. They clearly don'tcare. But so from what I've seen,
um, they've been saying that they'rethey're not even gonna even use them.
They're not even introducing the Mutants likeX Men. Yeah, I remember
you telling me about that, andI feel like I could have expected that.
You know, I've been accusing themof blowing up the universe for a
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while now and I still stand onthat. And what I'm thinking is they're
gonna use the Secret Wars to dothe crossover that everybody wants with the Mutants
and the Avengers and all that toprobably do the Avengers versus X Man,
and then they're gonna be done withthe Avengers and we're probably just gonna move
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into like mutant territory. Yeah,but I mean, at this point,
are you really getting the X Menversus the Avengers. I mean they have
killed off them. No, No, And it's gonna be some weird thing
like where it's uh like when theydid the femine fatal thing during the Avengers.
It's gonna be like a one offshot like that. It's gonna,
oh, this is what it wouldlook like if we were doing Avengers versus
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X Men, but we're not actuallydoing age, just gonna make this little
one scene and show you, hey, hey, it's kind of close.
Yeah, and then they're gonna gooff into the regular thing. But you
know, I expect stuff like thisfrom like Deadpool, because you know,
you hear all the rumors about Wolverinepopping up and stuff like that. So
I'm not really surprised that they maynot be doing the Mutants at all.
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But I think they're just gonna bedone with the Avengers at some point and
just probably focus on that, youknow, So with the Guardians of the
Galaxy and makes sense that they kindof ended off certain franchises and everything like
that. Yeah, you know,these are are more popular franchises that carried
the MCU for the most part,especially Guardians, and nobody thought that album's
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gonna do anything when it first gotannounced. You know, I'm thinking nobody
had really any faith in this movieand forth for a trilogy. Yeah,
but that first one really punched everybodyin the mouth though. But you MCU
had a lot of moments like thatwhen they used unnamed characters. I think
the only instance where they did,and it's probably Captain America. I mean
that Captain America, Captain Marvel,but A Man I mean, in my
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honest but they could have kept thatone. Yeah, yeah, they definitely
could have kept that one. Thatwas not a strong point for them.
But stuff like that, and Manhad a knockout first movie. You know,
the second one didn't do it aswell. I don't know if it's
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those second ones for those unnamed charactersthat don't necessarily do it for me,
because you know, Guardians, Voluventoo and A Man two they really weren't
all that. Yeah, you know, franchise definitely could have lived without it.
You know, I lost characters thatI like in a man. So
the fact that Guardians kept most ofthem and try to develop most of them,
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whether it be small or big,it I enjoyed that. Ye.
So before we get to our ourpersonal scores with this villain inside of the
volume three, how did he howdo you feel about this villain? How
did he portray this villain? Howdid he sell it and make you feel
it? Now? This one's funnybecause a lot of people don't like this
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villain. They say he's an emptyshell, he's a hollow villain. He's
just angry and screaming. But Itook it differently. You know, it's
this uh him wanting to be agod, and he kind of mentions it
briefly. You know, he hasthis real where he says, like,
there's no guard that's why I stepped, Yeah, And then then when the
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celestial head, he was like thedead god. The kill back up from
that dead God. You know,I think he got this real complex with
wanting to be a god. Andyou know, he's the first one we
actually see that's in his own wayachieving being a god. You know,
people felt like that on some levels. It's just you know, so to
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me, which is why I wasblown that they never kind of mentioned him
before. But to me, heportrayed exactly what the character embodied. You
know, he was a fucking whackjob. It made sense for to be
screaming and going off on everybody likethat. You know. It made sense
for his character's ambition, you know, and I'm not gonna speak to what
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it was, but for his character'sambition, it made sense to me.
And you know, so he wasn'tjust screaming. He was frustrated, you
know, that this thing is eludedhim so long, and it's right there
in his grass. To him,that's basically godhood right there in his hand,
and he just can't get it,you know. So yeah, I
enjoyed this, this villain, youknow. And they they always do what
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Marvel does, and they just theymarvel it out and find a way to
just hurt you right at the endwith the villains. But yeah, yeah,
because you've been talking about death forquite sometimes. Yeah, but the
way they do, I don't Idon't too much care for, you know,
I always find room for you know, you keep your villains man.
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Yeah, but then again, wedon't necessarily know what happened. They didn't
really leave it clear cut, soI don't know. Maybe they'll figure it
out. Yeah, yeah, mostdefinitely. But we have gotten to the
point to where we give our ownpersonal scores, so I'll go and then
you can take it from there.So the way that I went into this
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movie, like I said, Iwas looking forward to be this action pack
final and people die and this persondie. But that's just not illogical apparently
for Disney or just this MTU.So my first initial score was a six,
But after thinking about it in adifferent way and the way that I
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should have went into it, I'dsay it's probably seven point five eight.
Yeah, I'm I'm in a sevenpoint five area to myself, you know,
And uh, that's a fair score, you know. It's it's a
it's hard to close out movies,and every everything wasn't closed out. I'm
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not gonna lie and say everything wasclosure. But for what we got,
it was it was pretty decent,you know, compared to some things that
we've gotten, Like for the mostpart, the way that they closed it
out, they really closed it outand opened up multiple paths. Yeah,
a lot. I mean a lotof different paths. One path is the
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same. It's just it's a differentpath. And then there's other things out
there that they can grow on toand build onto to, you know,
but you know that's neither here northere. But yeah, it's as far
as though a grade wise, Ithink a seven point seven point five to
eight is is pretty fair. LikeI said, it's a good movie.
It's humorous, you know, it'sit's not flashed out with action from beginning
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to end, but they give youthe limps of it throughout the whole movie,
and you know, they are enjoyablescenes for the most part. You
know, some are you know,a little bit lower level than others.
But it's a well balanced movie.Yeah, most definitely it's well balanced.
The humor is ten times better thanLoving Thunder. I don't know who did
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the comedy on that movie, butthey need to go back to the drawing
board. Guardians Volume three had mecracking up through the entire thing when they
when I don't even want to say, but you know, I think that
it's more of like that for Guardiansbecause they stay true to who they are.
Yeah, like that movie, legitstays true to who they are throughout
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all three of their movies and eveninside of the Avenger movie like like like,
huh, that's what I'm saying,is there's like you're saying, they
stay true. There's no sudden moodshift between films. Yeah, well I'm
to a degree. It's it's nothingmajor to throw you completely off like the
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thor movies are. Yeah, butlike always, we can make suggestions,
We can give you our thoughts andsuggestions. Definitely gonna pay for this movie.
This is a it is money,well spence. I can't see you
how to spend your money well spent. I wasn't mad with the money I
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spent on the movie. Yeah,but you know, we can't tell you
how to spend your money or howto watch this movie. All I can
say is do it the right way. Go see it. Yeah, now
theirs they're just go see it you. You won't be disappointed, You'll you'll
enjoy it from beginning to start up. My kids didn't fall asleep in this
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one. You know what, Mykids actually watched it too. Yeah.
Like now, the Black Panther movie, it was it was doable for me.
The way that their direction or whatever. I don't I still feel like
the first one was better, butmy kids wentn't to sleep in this movie,
you know. And I think thatwas another thing about Guardians that I
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like, you could look at therecent movies and see nothing but product placement
for new movies and new series,and mind you, it is in Guardians.
It is, you know, butit's not so so in your face
that you can't just be like,ah, yeah, this again, I
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see. I bet you they're gonnado this with a Disney series or something
down the line. Now that issomething else. That is something else,
Like the way that I felt aboutthis movie with my first thoughts, I
felt like this really could have beena Disney series, you know what,
looking at the whole entire trilogy,that the whole thing really could have been
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a series, and it could havelasted a lot longer, just could have
got flushed out better. It's ateam movie, you know. You get
to see them move more and moreas a team as the movie of progresses,
actually as the series progresses. Soif it was a show, I
think all of that could have gotflushed out so much better. You know,
they could have went into details andspecifics and yeah, I had like
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certain episodes to tell backstory on thischaracter. Yeah, high connects to this
and that, and highlight on allthese characters that they brought into the world,
because you know, we forget andprobably take for granted, but this
was our introduction into the MCU cosmic, you know, and that's gone so
far beyond them now we kind offorget that they were the ones that were
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the focused on that at one pointin time. You know, it's and
they introduced a lot of these charactersand brought a lot of these characters that
we love and enjoy right now.Yeah, so yeah, definitely, James
Gunn has a good trilogy most definitely. Like now we have reached this time,
we're coming up on thirty minutes.This is the spoiler session of this
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section of this session. All right, now is your time to leave before
we started talking about everything in thismovie that you may or may have not
seen. We'll give you a littletime now. So I'm gonna say this
now before I even forget. Sowith this villain, I was wondering how
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the heck did he get the powers? You know what? That's never answered
and those are one of those thingsthey just left it in the air,
didn't care to answer. So yeah, you know, but before you go
into it. My only assumption onthat is that maybe he argumented himself like
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he did the rest of the otherstuff he was working on, and he's
got a whole business court behind itto kind of back that up. So
depending on what type of stuff he'sdone is I can only assume that because
it looked like it's coming from thesuit, I don't think he's actually a
superpowered Yeah, it looks like itwas something that he built. Because once
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Rack or rocket shot him or whateverand it's short circuit, they went to
beat his ass. It was horrible, like they was passing him around like
also too well, rocket first attackthem when he broke out. He never
had that ability he used a gun. Yeah, Like he didn't have that
ability. I don't think he feltlike he needed it. But after a
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while when he realized like like,yeah, man, I'm just a guy
that I have a matter of fact, it would have been nice to like
to like get like a slip backstorywhy he actually went that route, you
know what I mean? And Idon't know why. In this particular scene
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of the movie Yea where everybody justfelt like rebelling against him was gonna work.
It's like do you not know whathe has in his arsenal. Yeah.
In fact, they did choose badtimes to bail against him, and
they show you that. It's likenobody, you don't do anything. We're
taking this over, you know allnow that I'm thinking about it, If
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there was ever a time to givea slight origin story to him, it
would have been in that Christmas special. No, I wouldn't say the Christmas
special. Like even even now,they definitely can give him a slight origin
like they can do another like Christmasstory thing, but they could just use
him. They don't. They don'teven need the whole cast. They could
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just use him if anything, probablya rocket yeah, because you know that's
only voice over, Yeah, youknow what I mean. And that's like
they can show like right there onerocket star Clawnish his face up and all
that, and then from there theycan um like show like you know,
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like like little glimpse of why hedid this, how he did this,
why you know what I'm saying,Because like he had a whole different planet
like civilization, and but it soundlike he built that planet, yeah,
because he just blew it. Hebuilt it a couple of times. Yeah,
fact, because he was he waslike, I just got to raise
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it and try again. It iscrazy because he just kills like just this
entire planet just mindestly. It's likeor whatever's gone, and you know,
and it seemed and you know,it seemed like the only reason that planet
blow blew up is because he left. Yeah. I think whatever the ship
was, it was definitely connected tothe core of that planet. Yeah,
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it was like a detonator. Yeah, because as soon as he pulled it
up, everything started blowing up.And I ain't see him hiting no buttons,
which is crazy because it don't makesense because when they show Rocket while
he was learning and everything, thatplanet was just floating there like it was
already made. So I wonder ifthat was even the same planet. They
never even I'm more than no,because you remember, you know what,
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no, because he said he hadto start over again, and he said
that he's been doing these experiments forcenturies. He old him up. From
what I gathered, he even hadmusic that was five thousand years old and
whatnot. And then I remember onthe first Galaxy Guardians of the Galaxy movie,
when Rocket and all them got arrested, they said rockets home world was
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half world, and I was waitingfor them to kind of highlight on that
because like I feel like Rocket isfrom Earth and he's just a regular plane
Jane Raccoon. He is from Earth, but I think the world that he
was on with I don't think so. But because he because because when you
think about it, inside of themovie, every planet he made, he
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modeled it after Earth. You hadnot necessarily that he went to that.
He went to Earth back. I'massuming this when he got Rocket, because
he said he visited the planet.He modeled that planet after. I don't
know if he modeled every planet.He's modeling every planet after Earth, because
he's basically saying like Earth, likethat's the ideal, but they have flaws
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and he's trying to weed out thoseflaws, which is why he keeps doing
these experiments, trying to get itbetter, to make it better Earth.
I don't think he doing it overEarth because he said he only had visited
one time and he like the culture, you know what I'm saying that,
and like what's the people, theGolden People, and they had like five
planets tacked on them one another.Yeah, but I mean that maybe that
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was beforehand. Yeah, true,you know what I mean. He's like
like when Rocket was looking out ofthe ship when he was younger, it
looked like Earth. When they wentto this planet in this movie Earth,
it looked like Earth. I thinkhe's just trying to perfect the Earth Earth,
you know what I mean. Andhe he's basically like a offling of
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Panos. Yeah, basically like thesame motive kind of Yeah, the population
control, yeah, you know,it created, but he took it a
step further. He wanted to bethe creator too, yeah, you know,
but definitely a dope villain. Iliked his motives. You know,
he was outrageous when it came toRocket man. I didn't think he was
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gonna go that wild about it.I thought he's gonna get Oh you know
what, maybe this is too muchfor one raccoon when he could have just
got another one. But you know, he did get Rocket from Earth.
They showed it on that little plaque. You know they was from Earth.
But but you know what, fromwhat we said earlier, technically they did
kill some them. They they'll killthe racket. He died and came back,
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so technically speaking, I guess,so speaking, So if you want
to get on a more symbolic level, the team technically died too. So
yeah, yeah, the original team, well yeah, in a sense,
only like two of them, BoundsDracts is still there and but he not.
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He not on the team though rightnow. Yeah, but that's because
he has other duties. Yeah,you know what I mean. But I'm
talking about like the active team goingout on two of them are still there.
Yeah, well uh that then befoom. They called Adam Warlock is
just completely you know though, I'veactually thought about that one too. You
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know, he's basically a newborn childcoming out of well his mother said that,
she said that you took him outand early. Yeah, and I
and I think he was supposed tolearn a lot more because clearly he's not
dumb, but he's dumb founded,like from what I got from that um
that that mad credit scene. Yeah, it's um this is years later,
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and you can tell like he hedoesn't have that that child mentality anymore because
he seems like he's more around it. Yeah, because he's sitting here thinking
and talking about Yeah, huge man. You know I heard people calling them
Alpha Group and stuff like that.I thought this was the King Group.
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So I'm I'm actually a little confusedon which group. Apparently that that is,
but I don't know. But arethey the same? No, it's
the question. No, No,like are they like you saying Alpha group
and King group? Are they thesame group? Are they gonna be like
different groups? Oh? Oh no, I assume it's the same group,
just older. But I know whenwhen you first asked it, I thought
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you were talking about the first group, the first group he died. Yeah,
yeah, this is the sun.Yeah, yeah, that's what I
thought she meant the first time.No, Now, I don't know if
all these evolutions that he's going throughjust it's something normal, you know.
But you know, I think thatthey are normal because it's like their race.
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It's just like humans. Nobody,nobody is the same. First group
wasn't that big though, But nobody'sthe same though that just like, you
know, that makes sense, youknow what I mean, you know,
everybody's individual aspects of I mean,like even even this group, like he
grew claws like wolverine. You knowwhat I'm saying. I've never seen another
group that I've never seen group growwings. That was crazy. He didn't
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fly, but he did a fortnight. But man, yeah, it was
it was a wild journey, youknow, rockets backstory man. Seeing him
in that cage as a little rackcool, I was like, oh damn,
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this is kind of dark and messedup. I ain't think they were
going to do the animal cruelty tothis level, but they definitely went for
it. You know, you seehim stretched out over the little table and
whatnot. Yeah is that? Yeah? This is a keen group and that's
what he looked like to me.He didn't he didn't have he had like
a crown on all. Yeah,yeah, yeah, which is probably why
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you see it Kking Group. Yeah, but like I said, i've heard
Alpha Group, so I don't know. But I've heard King Group too,
so I'm sure they're gonna clear thatup later. If they even do,
which they don't really need to,they could leave it like here, and
honestly, I would be okay withthat. I would be okay with it,
you know, even with the highlightto a whole new team sort of
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kind that they got, you know, the two OG members and like you
said, drags Nebulous still there,so I guess if they ever need them
they could join back in. Butyou know, they really could leave it
like this and it would be allright. You know, it's one of
those situations where you should just leaveit, leave well enough alone. Yeah,
because I mean, I don't know, the story ended off good.
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The end any post credit scene waskind of trash. You know, I
took I took that as the firstone was doable. The second was just
stupid. Which one the star Lordwhen come first? That was the second
that was the very end that wasokay, okay because I now I appreciate
James Gunn for not having this ridiculouslylong credits before the second and you know,
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still because alone it really wasn't man, because it seemed like they you
know, they showed most of thenames right there the mid credit and then
you know, you have the sceneand then the rest of the credits and
then boom the end credit scene,which they really could have kept that.
You know, those were the momentswhere I felt like we were getting hit
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with product placement, like the legendarystar Lord that sounded like a spin off
movie or a TV show or somecrazy no or a specialist, some weird
it's like that, you know,I at the at the end credit scene,
it would have been nice for themto show it introduce Nova. Yeah,
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you know what, that was aletdown for me in this film.
I kind of expected an over topop up in similar almost similar in the
way that Adam Warlock popped up.Yeah, but they did most of that
focus on him, and honestly,he was barely able to fit into the
movie. So if they would haveput Nova into the movie, you know
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what, now did I think aboutit? Um, Sylvester Stallone, because
he was in the first one,but he was a part of the Novacors
in this movie. He wasn't.He was no, no, no,
Sylvestor. He was always a ravager. It was Yeah, I'm positive it
was a what's to do from stepBrothers that was a part of the Novacord
go forward. Yeah, I don'tknow, man, Yeah, matter of
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fact, because interesting fact, Ijust learned that the group that he rolls
with, the dude that does thestuff like uh thought, the strange in
the crystal looking dude, all ofthem are their own version of the team
of Guardians of the Galaxy, includingthe dude that Sylvester Stallone was playing.
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And at uh Molly Cyrus was voicingthat damn floating head. There's this floating
head on the Ravengers that she voiced, and she didn't do it in the
third when they replaced, but shedid it, and I guess the second
one. But yeah, he wasalways a Ravenger. It was I forget
that guy's name from step brother.Yeah him, yes, man, Yes,
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I don't know how I feel aboutthat, But I don't know who
they were supposed to have playing No. I would hope it's not him,
but I don't know who they wouldgonna have playing Nova. You know,
they really don't hint to that,So I guess like that late that one
go, you know, didn't hehave a credit scene that kind of that
kind of hinted. I felt likethey did, but I cannot. I'd
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be grasping at straws. I don'tremember. I really don't, And I
feel like Novah should have been introduceda long time ago. But it's one
of those things that they keep choosingto old. Mit. So yeah,
so this this let me see whatelse when they they basically realized that Dracs
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is like you were born to beyour father, and it was like what
you wasn't supposed to be a destroyer, You're supposed to be your father,
And I get it. You know. I mean, like I said,
we forgot about his whole backstory,not really, because he really don't let
you forget. Well, to me, I did, it was forgettable.
It was like, you know,you just kind of forget why Dracts is
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there because he said but I mean, even though it's forgettable, he really
don't let you get in the firstmovie, to me, it felt like,
I don't I don't too much rememberthat that was the whole reason he
lashed out at the enemy. Yeah, it's because that's who took his family
out. Oh you're talking about thefirst Yeah, that was like and now
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one Yeah, you know, II get it and I feel that,
but after that it just kind offalls to the wayside. Yeah, you
know, so I don't know inhim being a surrogate father to all of
them kids beyond me, man,it is only because he's the only one
that speaks the language. Yeah,but at this point, from what I
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got from the mid credit scene,as much time went by, you you
kind of figure that they speak regularlyEnglish now because a matter of fact,
one of them was a part ofthe group, Yeah, fight level,
he was speaking regularly English. Yeah, So, and uh, I don't
know if it's true or not,it would be it would be decent if
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it is that part where group toactually speak English. They're trying. From
what I understood, it was theaudience understanding group, like what's her name
or any of the other members juststart understanding group out of nowhere, like
Gomora did at the end. AndI think that's what they were trying to
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portray. Seriously, if you ifyou look it up, that as the
popular fan fit right now that hedidn't actually say I love you. He
was speaking in group, and theywere trying to put it as a perspective
of weak and understand what group isnow. Seriously, I could have lived
without I could have lived without that. Okay, look here, man,
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we've been seeing I him group forthe past three movies. You can't erect
that I love you a few guys. Oh he said, guys, two,
I love you guys. It's like, what would you just say?
Oh man, what'd you say?That's funny though, Yeah, man,
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they could have kept that. Theycould have kept that it was it was
cool or whatnot. But I reallycould have done without that. I would
I can say I wasn't looking forthat. Yeah, but now that I
got it. I could have doneit. Yeah, you kind of broke
it. It's like him breaking character. Yeah, like you was a mind
and you just started talking. VinDiesel just wanted to do that one time.
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Yeah, it reminded like just fromthat, it reminded me of the
video Paul Walker dressed up as VinDiesel. Yeah what what what is it?
Oh? Got you got you?But yeah, man um, Yeah,
that's it. That's that's well,it's not as much small as as
we gave for what was the lastmovie, h Mario, but it was
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it was a lot more detailer Mark, Yeah, it's a whole lot more
detail, but take us out.So that's been the nerve box. I'm
Duce Major, I'm dum and weappreciate you for tuning in. Piece am
mean, they kill him, butI'm next with the machete. Major won't
die because the boy wore a readywarm man on the swimp about to pull
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him back to Velly. I'm gonnaghost in the Skuys. Couldn't tell you
want to die, but I walkthis morning then fresh out amazing, but
a feel badman.
To the Nerve Box. Dudes,Major, I'm dum and today we're doing
a review on For some the highlyanticipated Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three been
a little bit of an offense forpeople on this one. She thought about
it, well, me personally,when I went into this movie, I
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was looking for something totally different thanwhat I got. So I was going
into this movie looking for like straataction pack final for the trilogy, you
know what I mean. But youreally get a heartful end into the trilogy,
you know what I mean. Ithas its ups and it's down moments.
It gives you a lot of insighton Rocket Raccoon, and it was
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it went a completely opposite direction ofwhat I thought it was going to go.
So my initial score for this waslore then what it is now after
I realized, like, you haveto go into this movie looking at it
in a different perspective, and youknow, and we hadn't talked about it.
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For me, it was the completeopposite, you know. I felt
like going into this movie and comingout it fulfilled on something that had already
been building up on. And tome, it wasn't necessarily the action.
It's a it's a family story.You know, the first movie was about
finding family, the second one wasabout having the I would say, the
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genetic family versus the found family.And then the third one is basically sustaining
it, you know, Like yousaid, it's got its ups and downs.
I enjoyed the action sequences, itwasn't as many as the first one.
I liked the first one a littlebit better. I'm not gonna lie.
You know, the first movie isdefinitely the better of the three three
year the second movie they really couldhave did without that movie. The only
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thing you really gained out of thatwas within Mantis. Yeah, that's the
only thing you really gained out,you know. And then knowing that Peter
Quill is yeah human Yeah yeah.Other than that, like they really could
have deal without that. To me, the second one, the third one
just shows how empty of a shellthe second one was, you know,
because we, like you said,we got the bits of information. You
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know, it was a Peter Quillstory, and from what I'm understanding about
this whole trilogy, that Rocket wasthe secret protagonist. And if that's the
case, then the second movie isbasically pointless. Yeah you know, but
but you know, um, whichwhen you're right they did kind of make
it seem like he was the realleading role for he really he really isn't
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when you go back and look atit. They've really been plugging this in
for Rocket this entire time, youknow, and whether everything went like it
was supposed to, because I knowhe didn't intend for Gomra to be killed
in Avengers End Game, but hestill made it work. To me,
I like the way that it ended, you know, like it was an
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emotional film. They was up anddown everywhere. They was pulling it hard
strings everywhere they could. You know, I like the character growth on a
Nebula in Mantis, two of myleast favorite characters, and I actually enjoyed
watching them in this movie. Butyou know, Nebula really switched around in
that Avengers movie. So when theystarted showing you a difference, yeah,
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you know what I mean, andshe kind of I don't know exactly when
the swap came, but they definitelymade the swap real known. Yeah,
And that's why I think I likedGo more. I mean not more Nebula
a lot more among the Mantis matterof fact drags too, because the to
me, those three characters were ina stalemate like they were having no character
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growth whatsoever. Dracks was this dumbstrong dude, which and I mean he's
still that shout the third deal is, but they really they touched Veil,
like, yeah, what his realcalling is? And you know that's something
I really I forgot about. Youknow, I forgot his whole I lost
my family and I was a fatherand all of this. So it was
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nice that they actually came back andbrought some of that full circle, you
know what I'm saying. So it'slike everybody didn't get these grand closures,
but everybody got some type of closure. And the death thing kind of that
through me though I was expecting somebodyto die. What I mean, you
you kind of spoil and took awaythat from everyone that didn't know that.
(04:38):
Oh this wasn't It's crazy, right, Yeah, it's crazy. But I
mean yeah, they definitely tease thatthroughout the past year, that someone's gonna
die. But I don't know ifthey more of tease it or more of
it got put out there as arumor. But then after it was put
out there as a rumor, nowyou start to see those little bit of
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elements them kind of saying someone's gonnadie in the trailer. Yeah, and
then it's crazy because once you goin the movie, there's certain things that
you see in the trailers at thebeginning. Well, you know, it
might have just been a rumor startedfrom the trailers. I think we were
all just expecting some epic, youknow, things like that to happen.
Yeah, but I mean I don'tI don't think that it's a rumor that
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started front the trailers, because thetrailers started coming out after those rumors came.
Oh yeah, it's probably one ofthose uh them scoopers. Yeah.
And then once that came out inthe trailer, they put like scenes in
there that make it seem like someonedied, but all that happened at the
beginning, and nothing happened. Mybad out of spoiler, y'all. But
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yeah, other than that, though, man, I like the character growth
on the characters. Man, evensome of the background characters. You know,
they got some shine time in it. Yeah. Yeah, like Um,
the replacement for Um was the namedy'all do Yeah, the the guy
that adopted all people. Yeah.Yeah, and it's kind of like your
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um the next in line passing onthe torch kind of thing. Yeah,
And you know, what. Honestly, I got that vibe a lot throughout
the movie. You know, itfelt like a lot of it was a
passing a torch type of film,you know it. Yeah, I got
that sense from a lot of characters. You know, you could see the
connections that were built between certain characterswere stronger than others. You know,
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especially with characters like Rocket Nebula.I ain't think about how close they had
done gotten between the little blip.Yeah, you know, you know she
she really pointed out, like,hey, he he's a genius, Like
he made this other arm from mewhen I didn't have the arm and man,
and I love the Nevula grades.Man, oh my god, the
nepulave. I'm a fan of nevulast you could see now yeah, now
(06:54):
too late. But you know what, she really didn't have nothing to be
a fan of in the first one. She was an angry robot person.
Yeah. And what is crazy aboutit is because you know we're not going
to talk about it right now,is she's not even the bad one?
No, no, which is thecrazy party? Know, they do a
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good job at highlighting that. Ithink they did a good job at highlighting
where we were with Goamore as acharacter, because that whole movie, the
end Game, it left for usall, you know, kind of like,
well, what's going on with theGuardians? You know, they kind
of answered that to some degree,but you know, with them bringing back
go Moore, I feel like theycould have did without her. They really
(07:38):
could have just left her dead.And you know what, I don't think
it was ever the intent of JamesGunn to kill off Gamore, Are you
sure? I'm pretty sure, AndI think that was a move made by
Disney and then he just kind ofhad to live with the consequences of that
and make a movie around it,which is why I was like, I
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kind of liked Kady they handled it, yeah, you know, because I
really don't think that that character orhe intended for it, but it wasn't
his cart and you know, atthe end of the day, so yeah,
I mean that, you know,all he could do is you know,
go along with the train, theengine, you know, make your
money. Yeah, make your money, you know, make your money.
And he definitely made his money withthis one. You know, as far
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as trilogies go, you know,it's one of those trilogies that you didn't
think what's gonna end out? Allwell? But but all right, trilogy
wise, from the trilogy trilogies thatwe've gotten so far, where does this
one rank? Okay? Because trilogywise personally, don't be harsh on the
second personally, because if we're talkingtrilogies and MCU, we got what Thor
(08:48):
Iron Man Captain America. Well,and you can say Thor, but Thor's
four movies technically, but I don'tlike the count Love and Thunder because they
knew they should to stop it threemovies, and which is crazy that I'm
even saying that now, because there'sbeen that whole announcement where they're only doing
trilogies now, so they're not gonnago beyond. But he's having enough,
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but he's but they're kind of toodeep with him already, you know.
But I'm as far as the maintrilogy go, because Thor, Love and
Thunder didn't feel like it was reallypart of the main Thor trilogy. It
felt like a standoff to introduce theJane Thor and other characters like Love and
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and to get off on famous comicbook characters like Gore to God Butcher who
really didn't do any god butching atall. Yeah, his character's real,
you know, it really was.So that's why I'm not counting that movie.
I'm gonna say Thor Man and CaptainAmerica. A man had a trilogy.
(09:54):
Man had a trilogy. Who elsehad a trilogy? I think those
Spider Man, he had a trilogy. Uh sorry, man, I already
say iron Arson. Uh so yourIron Man, Captain America, Thor Spider
Man, Guardians of the Galaxy.Um, and we just said one and
we missed it. But neither hearnor that it is here, but we
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stu. I did like Captain Americawas one of my favorite trilogies. My
only problem with that you have tobe involved with the rest of the movies
to really understand his trilogy. SoI ended up putting his trilogy is like
number two for me. I wasdigging Iron Man, which is probably gonna
be my number one on the trilogy. But I didn't care for the third
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movie I was I was with Imean, you know what third movie.
I didn't care for the third movieand I definitely don't care for now after
shan Chi. You know what,in movies like that show how some of
these movies really don't age that well, you know, and then shan Chi
really just tossed it out there.They actually showed the actual um mandarin.
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Yeah, and that was what everybodywas waiting for. So but then the
way that they did it was wascompletely different because he didn't actually have rings.
He had rings like sonic Yeah rings, you know what I mean.
And I'm doing this if if we'redoing this, I know Thor's bottom tear
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for me. As far as thetrilogy goes, yeah, I don't know
that. The first one was prettydecent. Yeah, the third one was
the best out of the four,because I did. I did like Captain
Now the Spider Man. I likeall three of those. That's number one
on my trilogy list. I enjoyedthe entire trilogy. There was things I
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wish they would have did differently,but you know, as a whole,
it was good. It was cohesive. The final movie was epic Captain America.
I'm actually gonna put that at numbertwo thinking about it. I really
did enjoy the trilogy. And eventhough you had to be really up on
the other movies that kind of geta base, especially for Civil War.
(12:07):
Te Civil War, it was cool, but man, it was a bunch
of character. The Winter Soldier,The Winter Soldier was he was a winner,
had a winner. No, I'mtalking about the second Winter Soldiers,
like my favorite oh yeah yeah,yeah, yeah yeah. But the my
favorite moment in a Captain America movieis definitely when to Chola popped up.
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Yeah, and I and you can'tknock that. And like I said,
his series, you know, youjust had to be inclusive to all the
movies. So I would put SpiderMan Captain America. Probably iron Man right
after that, definitely, not thorit's gonna be at man um or no,
you know what. Definitely, yeah, oh yeah, most definitely.
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I would put Guardians right after myright after my iron Man series, right
before A Man and the Iron Manwas what three? Yeah, and then
so so Guardians would be my fourand then A Man would be my fu.
I don't know about that. Andyou know what, I as crazy
as it sounds, after this particularGuardians movie, I believe it's it's higher
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up iron And the only reason andthe only reason I say that because I
really don't too much care for thesecond one. The second one was fine.
I didn't I didn't mind the secondone because I had been tired of
the going against a villain that's basicallythe evil version of them. You know,
that had been done, but Imean that the Hulk, and they
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were planning on doing it with CaptainAmerica. We knew they had to do
it like that. In all,honestly, the third one was better than
the second one. But the IronMan, Yeah, story wise, I
just didn't like the fact that Ididn't put Demander in it, which is
why I didn't care for that movie. Yeah, and the Extremist Project,
but I which is probably why theyended up putting him in Sean Chi because
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they kind of yeah, explains itbecause he yeah, it was actually in
it, so you know, which, well, I get it. You're
sorry, you know, you apologize. You know it's too late for it,
but you apologize. I get it. You know, they tried to
kill my boy off. He wasfunny and he did a good manner,
and I thought, you know,and even though they chose an actual Asian
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character portray to portray the band init. But you know, it seems
like Disney is pushing more towards stayingtrue to um cultures, which I can
appreciate. Honestly, I hate whitewashcharacters. Characters you know, should have
been of a certain race, andeven though they have fairer skin, they
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can fit the man with a whitecharacter. Why not just go for fledge.
If you're gonna try to go thisdeep to be this accurate science wise
and all information, why not beactually accurate as well, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,and I and I could appreciate that.
And you know, it's as faras The Guardian's movie. You know,
you got to see that they appreciateall of Earth's cultures and stuff like that.
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Speaking of which, you know,they and they talked about it.
You know, they're listening to thedifferent musics they they're using. Uh,
they did the Christmas Special in thewhole different series, but you know,
you kind of you kind of geta woman that on what everybody living on
that head. Yeah, but Idon't know, it just seemed like the
Christmas Special was just to give thecharacter, like certain characters just a little
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bit more development for this movie.And I think that was specifically for Madness
and Drags. Yeah, and itreally shows in this movie because of the
influence that each of them have oneach other. Yeah, but with the
insight that they gave you on Rocketwithout giving away any spoilers right now,
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how do you feel about the insight? Like is it was it something that
you was looking for? Did theygive you what what everyone was asking for
for all these years? Like youknow, with Rocket, I love the
story that they told on him.I felt like they might have could have
gave us a little more. Asfar as when the movies were coming together,
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they never really hinted at any ofthis. You know, everybody knows
who the villain is, the highevolutionary, and apparently he's just been known
and we didn't know that, whichis kind of weird to me. And
I mean, like big known aroundthe universe. So it's like that part
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kind of threw me. But asfar as the rest of the story,
oh Man, definitely one of thebetter origin stories I've seen recently in MCU
in the past what years. Yeah, Yeah, it's not nothing like I'm
just out of the newer stuff thatwe'd be getting. Like Sean Chi was
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definitely one of my favorites. Thatwasn't but it well no, yeah it
was. When did that come outin twenty nineteen, I don't know,
I can't remember I think it wastwenty nineteen. If I mean, if
it was eighteen, I know thatkind of fits, and that's fair.
Thought it about people, that's fiveyears. That's five years fair, that's
fair. But I think it wasI want to say it was twenty nineteen.
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Oh oh oh, then I'm verywrong. But yeah, that was
one of my more favorite origin storiesin the last four years recently. Yeah,
you know, the Kamala Khan thingwas cool. You know, I
don't think they're going anywhere with theMarvel. I mean, the Mutants ain't
getting Marvel, but you know,it was it was nice that they was
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thinking about us. They clearly don'tcare. But so from what I've seen,
um, they've been saying that they'rethey're not even gonna even use them.
They're not even introducing the Mutants likeX Men. Yeah, I remember
you telling me about that, andI feel like I could have expected that.
You know, I've been accusing themof blowing up the universe for a
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while now and I still stand onthat. And what I'm thinking is they're
gonna use the Secret Wars to dothe crossover that everybody wants with the Mutants
and the Avengers and all that toprobably do the Avengers versus X Man,
and then they're gonna be done withthe Avengers and we're probably just gonna move
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into like mutant territory. Yeah,but I mean, at this point,
are you really getting the X Menversus the Avengers. I mean they have
killed off them. No, No, And it's gonna be some weird thing
like where it's uh like when theydid the femine fatal thing during the Avengers.
It's gonna be like a one offshot like that. It's gonna,
oh, this is what it wouldlook like if we were doing Avengers versus
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X Men, but we're not actuallydoing age, just gonna make this little
one scene and show you, hey, hey, it's kind of close.
Yeah, and then they're gonna gooff into the regular thing. But you
know, I expect stuff like thisfrom like Deadpool, because you know,
you hear all the rumors about Wolverinepopping up and stuff like that. So
I'm not really surprised that they maynot be doing the Mutants at all.
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But I think they're just gonna bedone with the Avengers at some point and
just probably focus on that, youknow, So with the Guardians of the
Galaxy and makes sense that they kindof ended off certain franchises and everything like
that. Yeah, you know,these are are more popular franchises that carried
the MCU for the most part,especially Guardians, and nobody thought that album's
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gonna do anything when it first gotannounced. You know, I'm thinking nobody
had really any faith in this movieand forth for a trilogy. Yeah,
but that first one really punched everybodyin the mouth though. But you MCU
had a lot of moments like thatwhen they used unnamed characters. I think
the only instance where they did,and it's probably Captain America. I mean
that Captain America, Captain Marvel,but A Man I mean, in my
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honest but they could have kept thatone. Yeah, yeah, they definitely
could have kept that one. Thatwas not a strong point for them.
But stuff like that, and Manhad a knockout first movie. You know,
the second one didn't do it aswell. I don't know if it's
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those second ones for those unnamed charactersthat don't necessarily do it for me,
because you know, Guardians, Voluventoo and A Man two they really weren't
all that. Yeah, you know, franchise definitely could have lived without it.
You know, I lost characters thatI like in a man. So
the fact that Guardians kept most ofthem and try to develop most of them,
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whether it be small or big,it I enjoyed that. Ye.
So before we get to our ourpersonal scores with this villain inside of the
volume three, how did he howdo you feel about this villain? How
did he portray this villain? Howdid he sell it and make you feel
it? Now? This one's funnybecause a lot of people don't like this
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villain. They say he's an emptyshell, he's a hollow villain. He's
just angry and screaming. But Itook it differently. You know, it's
this uh him wanting to be agod, and he kind of mentions it
briefly. You know, he hasthis real where he says, like,
there's no guard that's why I stepped, Yeah, And then then when the
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celestial head, he was like thedead god. The kill back up from
that dead God. You know,I think he got this real complex with
wanting to be a god. Andyou know, he's the first one we
actually see that's in his own wayachieving being a god. You know,
people felt like that on some levels. It's just you know, so to
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me, which is why I wasblown that they never kind of mentioned him
before. But to me, heportrayed exactly what the character embodied. You
know, he was a fucking whackjob. It made sense for to be
screaming and going off on everybody likethat. You know. It made sense
for his character's ambition, you know, and I'm not gonna speak to what
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it was, but for his character'sambition, it made sense to me.
And you know, so he wasn'tjust screaming. He was frustrated, you
know, that this thing is eludedhim so long, and it's right there
in his grass. To him,that's basically godhood right there in his hand,
and he just can't get it,you know. So yeah, I
enjoyed this, this villain, youknow. And they they always do what
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Marvel does, and they just theymarvel it out and find a way to
just hurt you right at the endwith the villains. But yeah, yeah,
because you've been talking about death forquite sometimes. Yeah, but the
way they do, I don't Idon't too much care for, you know,
I always find room for you know, you keep your villains man.
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Yeah, but then again, wedon't necessarily know what happened. They didn't
really leave it clear cut, soI don't know. Maybe they'll figure it
out. Yeah, yeah, mostdefinitely. But we have gotten to the
point to where we give our ownpersonal scores, so I'll go and then
you can take it from there.So the way that I went into this
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movie, like I said, Iwas looking forward to be this action pack
final and people die and this persondie. But that's just not illogical apparently
for Disney or just this MTU.So my first initial score was a six,
But after thinking about it in adifferent way and the way that I
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should have went into it, I'dsay it's probably seven point five eight.
Yeah, I'm I'm in a sevenpoint five area to myself, you know,
And uh, that's a fair score, you know. It's it's a
it's hard to close out movies,and every everything wasn't closed out. I'm
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not gonna lie and say everything wasclosure. But for what we got,
it was it was pretty decent,you know, compared to some things that
we've gotten, Like for the mostpart, the way that they closed it
out, they really closed it outand opened up multiple paths. Yeah,
a lot. I mean a lotof different paths. One path is the
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same. It's just it's a differentpath. And then there's other things out
there that they can grow on toand build onto to, you know,
but you know that's neither here northere. But yeah, it's as far
as though a grade wise, Ithink a seven point seven point five to
eight is is pretty fair. LikeI said, it's a good movie.
It's humorous, you know, it'sit's not flashed out with action from beginning
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to end, but they give youthe limps of it throughout the whole movie,
and you know, they are enjoyablescenes for the most part. You
know, some are you know,a little bit lower level than others.
But it's a well balanced movie.Yeah, most definitely it's well balanced.
The humor is ten times better thanLoving Thunder. I don't know who did
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the comedy on that movie, butthey need to go back to the drawing
board. Guardians Volume three had mecracking up through the entire thing when they
when I don't even want to say, but you know, I think that
it's more of like that for Guardiansbecause they stay true to who they are.
Yeah, like that movie, legitstays true to who they are throughout
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all three of their movies and eveninside of the Avenger movie like like like,
huh, that's what I'm saying,is there's like you're saying, they
stay true. There's no sudden moodshift between films. Yeah, well I'm
to a degree. It's it's nothingmajor to throw you completely off like the
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thor movies are. Yeah, butlike always, we can make suggestions,
We can give you our thoughts andsuggestions. Definitely gonna pay for this movie.
This is a it is money,well spence. I can't see you
how to spend your money well spent. I wasn't mad with the money I
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spent on the movie. Yeah,but you know, we can't tell you
how to spend your money or howto watch this movie. All I can
say is do it the right way. Go see it. Yeah, now
theirs they're just go see it you. You won't be disappointed, You'll you'll
enjoy it from beginning to start up. My kids didn't fall asleep in this
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one. You know what, Mykids actually watched it too. Yeah.
Like now, the Black Panther movie, it was it was doable for me.
The way that their direction or whatever. I don't I still feel like
the first one was better, butmy kids wentn't to sleep in this movie,
you know. And I think thatwas another thing about Guardians that I
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like, you could look at therecent movies and see nothing but product placement
for new movies and new series,and mind you, it is in Guardians.
It is, you know, butit's not so so in your face
that you can't just be like,ah, yeah, this again, I
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see. I bet you they're gonnado this with a Disney series or something
down the line. Now that issomething else. That is something else,
Like the way that I felt aboutthis movie with my first thoughts, I
felt like this really could have beena Disney series, you know what,
looking at the whole entire trilogy,that the whole thing really could have been
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a series, and it could havelasted a lot longer, just could have
got flushed out better. It's ateam movie, you know. You get
to see them move more and moreas a team as the movie of progresses,
actually as the series progresses. Soif it was a show, I
think all of that could have gotflushed out so much better. You know,
they could have went into details andspecifics and yeah, I had like
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certain episodes to tell backstory on thischaracter. Yeah, high connects to this
and that, and highlight on allthese characters that they brought into the world,
because you know, we forget andprobably take for granted, but this
was our introduction into the MCU cosmic, you know, and that's gone so
far beyond them now we kind offorget that they were the ones that were
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the focused on that at one pointin time. You know, it's and
they introduced a lot of these charactersand brought a lot of these characters that
we love and enjoy right now.Yeah, so yeah, definitely, James
Gunn has a good trilogy most definitely. Like now we have reached this time,
we're coming up on thirty minutes.This is the spoiler session of this
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section of this session. All right, now is your time to leave before
we started talking about everything in thismovie that you may or may have not
seen. We'll give you a littletime now. So I'm gonna say this
now before I even forget. Sowith this villain, I was wondering how
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the heck did he get the powers? You know what? That's never answered
and those are one of those thingsthey just left it in the air,
didn't care to answer. So yeah, you know, but before you go
into it. My only assumption onthat is that maybe he argumented himself like
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he did the rest of the otherstuff he was working on, and he's
got a whole business court behind itto kind of back that up. So
depending on what type of stuff he'sdone is I can only assume that because
it looked like it's coming from thesuit, I don't think he's actually a
superpowered Yeah, it looks like itwas something that he built. Because once
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Rack or rocket shot him or whateverand it's short circuit, they went to
beat his ass. It was horrible, like they was passing him around like
also too well, rocket first attackthem when he broke out. He never
had that ability he used a gun. Yeah, Like he didn't have that
ability. I don't think he feltlike he needed it. But after a
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while when he realized like like,yeah, man, I'm just a guy
that I have a matter of fact, it would have been nice to like
to like get like a slip backstorywhy he actually went that route, you
know what I mean? And Idon't know why. In this particular scene
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of the movie Yea where everybody justfelt like rebelling against him was gonna work.
It's like do you not know whathe has in his arsenal. Yeah.
In fact, they did choose badtimes to bail against him, and
they show you that. It's likenobody, you don't do anything. We're
taking this over, you know allnow that I'm thinking about it, If
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there was ever a time to givea slight origin story to him, it
would have been in that Christmas special. No, I wouldn't say the Christmas
special. Like even even now,they definitely can give him a slight origin
like they can do another like Christmasstory thing, but they could just use
him. They don't. They don'teven need the whole cast. They could
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just use him if anything, probablya rocket yeah, because you know that's
only voice over, Yeah, youknow what I mean. And that's like
they can show like right there onerocket star Clawnish his face up and all
that, and then from there theycan um like show like you know,
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like like little glimpse of why hedid this, how he did this,
why you know what I'm saying,Because like he had a whole different planet
like civilization, and but it soundlike he built that planet, yeah,
because he just blew it. Hebuilt it a couple of times. Yeah,
fact, because he was he waslike, I just got to raise
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it and try again. It iscrazy because he just kills like just this
entire planet just mindestly. It's likeor whatever's gone, and you know,
and it seemed and you know,it seemed like the only reason that planet
blow blew up is because he left. Yeah. I think whatever the ship
was, it was definitely connected tothe core of that planet. Yeah,
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it was like a detonator. Yeah, because as soon as he pulled it
up, everything started blowing up.And I ain't see him hiting no buttons,
which is crazy because it don't makesense because when they show Rocket while
he was learning and everything, thatplanet was just floating there like it was
already made. So I wonder ifthat was even the same planet. They
never even I'm more than no,because you remember, you know what,
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no, because he said he hadto start over again, and he said
that he's been doing these experiments forcenturies. He old him up. From
what I gathered, he even hadmusic that was five thousand years old and
whatnot. And then I remember onthe first Galaxy Guardians of the Galaxy movie,
when Rocket and all them got arrested, they said rockets home world was
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half world, and I was waitingfor them to kind of highlight on that
because like I feel like Rocket isfrom Earth and he's just a regular plane
Jane Raccoon. He is from Earth, but I think the world that he
was on with I don't think so. But because he because because when you
think about it, inside of themovie, every planet he made, he
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modeled it after Earth. You hadnot necessarily that he went to that.
He went to Earth back. I'massuming this when he got Rocket, because
he said he visited the planet.He modeled that planet after. I don't
know if he modeled every planet.He's modeling every planet after Earth, because
he's basically saying like Earth, likethat's the ideal, but they have flaws
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and he's trying to weed out thoseflaws, which is why he keeps doing
these experiments, trying to get itbetter, to make it better Earth.
I don't think he doing it overEarth because he said he only had visited
one time and he like the culture, you know what I'm saying that,
and like what's the people, theGolden People, and they had like five
planets tacked on them one another.Yeah, but I mean that maybe that
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was beforehand. Yeah, true,you know what I mean. He's like
like when Rocket was looking out ofthe ship when he was younger, it
looked like Earth. When they wentto this planet in this movie Earth,
it looked like Earth. I thinkhe's just trying to perfect the Earth Earth,
you know what I mean. Andhe he's basically like a offling of
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Panos. Yeah, basically like thesame motive kind of Yeah, the population
control, yeah, you know,it created, but he took it a
step further. He wanted to bethe creator too, yeah, you know,
but definitely a dope villain. Iliked his motives. You know,
he was outrageous when it came toRocket man. I didn't think he was
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gonna go that wild about it.I thought he's gonna get Oh you know
what, maybe this is too muchfor one raccoon when he could have just
got another one. But you know, he did get Rocket from Earth.
They showed it on that little plaque. You know they was from Earth.
But but you know what, fromwhat we said earlier, technically they did
kill some them. They they'll killthe racket. He died and came back,
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so technically speaking, I guess,so speaking, So if you want
to get on a more symbolic level, the team technically died too. So
yeah, yeah, the original team, well yeah, in a sense,
only like two of them, BoundsDracts is still there and but he not.
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He not on the team though rightnow. Yeah, but that's because
he has other duties. Yeah,you know what I mean. But I'm
talking about like the active team goingout on two of them are still there.
Yeah, well uh that then befoom. They called Adam Warlock is
just completely you know though, I'veactually thought about that one too. You
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know, he's basically a newborn childcoming out of well his mother said that,
she said that you took him outand early. Yeah, and I
and I think he was supposed tolearn a lot more because clearly he's not
dumb, but he's dumb founded,like from what I got from that um
that that mad credit scene. Yeah, it's um this is years later,
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and you can tell like he hedoesn't have that that child mentality anymore because
he seems like he's more around it. Yeah, because he's sitting here thinking
and talking about Yeah, huge man. You know I heard people calling them
Alpha Group and stuff like that.I thought this was the King Group.
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So I'm I'm actually a little confusedon which group. Apparently that that is,
but I don't know. But arethey the same? No, it's
the question. No, No,like are they like you saying Alpha group
and King group? Are they thesame group? Are they gonna be like
different groups? Oh? Oh no, I assume it's the same group,
just older. But I know whenwhen you first asked it, I thought
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you were talking about the first group, the first group he died. Yeah,
yeah, this is the sun.Yeah, yeah, that's what I
thought she meant the first time.No, Now, I don't know if
all these evolutions that he's going throughjust it's something normal, you know.
But you know, I think thatthey are normal because it's like their race.
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It's just like humans. Nobody,nobody is the same. First group
wasn't that big though, But nobody'sthe same though that just like, you
know, that makes sense, youknow what I mean, you know,
everybody's individual aspects of I mean,like even even this group, like he
grew claws like wolverine. You knowwhat I'm saying. I've never seen another
group that I've never seen group growwings. That was crazy. He didn't
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fly, but he did a fortnight. But man, yeah, it was
it was a wild journey, youknow, rockets backstory man. Seeing him
in that cage as a little rackcool, I was like, oh damn,
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this is kind of dark and messedup. I ain't think they were
going to do the animal cruelty tothis level, but they definitely went for
it. You know, you seehim stretched out over the little table and
whatnot. Yeah is that? Yeah? This is a keen group and that's
what he looked like to me.He didn't he didn't have he had like
a crown on all. Yeah,yeah, yeah, which is probably why
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you see it Kking Group. Yeah, but like I said, i've heard
Alpha Group, so I don't know. But I've heard King Group too,
so I'm sure they're gonna clear thatup later. If they even do,
which they don't really need to,they could leave it like here, and
honestly, I would be okay withthat. I would be okay with it,
you know, even with the highlightto a whole new team sort of
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kind that they got, you know, the two OG members and like you
said, drags Nebulous still there,so I guess if they ever need them
they could join back in. Butyou know, they really could leave it
like this and it would be allright. You know, it's one of
those situations where you should just leaveit, leave well enough alone. Yeah,
because I mean, I don't know, the story ended off good.
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The end any post credit scene waskind of trash. You know, I
took I took that as the firstone was doable. The second was just
stupid. Which one the star Lordwhen come first? That was the second
that was the very end that wasokay, okay because I now I appreciate
James Gunn for not having this ridiculouslylong credits before the second and you know,
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still because alone it really wasn't man, because it seemed like they you
know, they showed most of thenames right there the mid credit and then
you know, you have the sceneand then the rest of the credits and
then boom the end credit scene,which they really could have kept that.
You know, those were the momentswhere I felt like we were getting hit
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with product placement, like the legendarystar Lord that sounded like a spin off
movie or a TV show or somecrazy no or a specialist, some weird
it's like that, you know,I at the at the end credit scene,
it would have been nice for themto show it introduce Nova. Yeah,
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you know what, that was aletdown for me in this film.
I kind of expected an over topop up in similar almost similar in the
way that Adam Warlock popped up.Yeah, but they did most of that
focus on him, and honestly,he was barely able to fit into the
movie. So if they would haveput Nova into the movie, you know
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what, now did I think aboutit? Um, Sylvester Stallone, because
he was in the first one,but he was a part of the Novacors
in this movie. He wasn't.He was no, no, no,
Sylvestor. He was always a ravager. It was Yeah, I'm positive it
was a what's to do from stepBrothers that was a part of the Novacord
go forward. Yeah, I don'tknow, man, Yeah, matter of
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fact, because interesting fact, Ijust learned that the group that he rolls
with, the dude that does thestuff like uh thought, the strange in
the crystal looking dude, all ofthem are their own version of the team
of Guardians of the Galaxy, includingthe dude that Sylvester Stallone was playing.
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And at uh Molly Cyrus was voicingthat damn floating head. There's this floating
head on the Ravengers that she voiced, and she didn't do it in the
third when they replaced, but shedid it, and I guess the second
one. But yeah, he wasalways a Ravenger. It was I forget
that guy's name from step brother.Yeah him, yes, man, Yes,
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I don't know how I feel aboutthat, But I don't know who
they were supposed to have playing No. I would hope it's not him,
but I don't know who they wouldgonna have playing Nova. You know,
they really don't hint to that,So I guess like that late that one
go, you know, didn't hehave a credit scene that kind of that
kind of hinted. I felt likethey did, but I cannot. I'd
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be grasping at straws. I don'tremember. I really don't, And I
feel like Novah should have been introduceda long time ago. But it's one
of those things that they keep choosingto old. Mit. So yeah,
so this this let me see whatelse when they they basically realized that Dracs
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is like you were born to beyour father, and it was like what
you wasn't supposed to be a destroyer, You're supposed to be your father,
And I get it. You know. I mean, like I said,
we forgot about his whole backstory,not really, because he really don't let
you forget. Well, to me, I did, it was forgettable.
It was like, you know,you just kind of forget why Dracts is
(43:36):
there because he said but I mean, even though it's forgettable, he really
don't let you get in the firstmovie, to me, it felt like,
I don't I don't too much rememberthat that was the whole reason he
lashed out at the enemy. Yeah, it's because that's who took his family
out. Oh you're talking about thefirst Yeah, that was like and now
(43:57):
one Yeah, you know, II get it and I feel that,
but after that it just kind offalls to the wayside. Yeah, you
know, so I don't know inhim being a surrogate father to all of
them kids beyond me, man,it is only because he's the only one
that speaks the language. Yeah,but at this point, from what I
(44:20):
got from the mid credit scene,as much time went by, you you
kind of figure that they speak regularlyEnglish now because a matter of fact,
one of them was a part ofthe group, Yeah, fight level,
he was speaking regularly English. Yeah, So, and uh, I don't
know if it's true or not,it would be it would be decent if
(44:40):
it is that part where group toactually speak English. They're trying. From
what I understood, it was theaudience understanding group, like what's her name
or any of the other members juststart understanding group out of nowhere, like
Gomora did at the end. AndI think that's what they were trying to
(45:00):
portray. Seriously, if you ifyou look it up, that as the
popular fan fit right now that hedidn't actually say I love you. He
was speaking in group, and theywere trying to put it as a perspective
of weak and understand what group isnow. Seriously, I could have lived
without I could have lived without that. Okay, look here, man,
(45:22):
we've been seeing I him group forthe past three movies. You can't erect
that I love you a few guys. Oh he said, guys, two,
I love you guys. It's like, what would you just say?
Oh man, what'd you say?That's funny though, Yeah, man,
(45:44):
they could have kept that. Theycould have kept that it was it was
cool or whatnot. But I reallycould have done without that. I would
I can say I wasn't looking forthat. Yeah, but now that I
got it. I could have doneit. Yeah, you kind of broke
it. It's like him breaking character. Yeah, like you was a mind
and you just started talking. VinDiesel just wanted to do that one time.
(46:06):
Yeah, it reminded like just fromthat, it reminded me of the
video Paul Walker dressed up as VinDiesel. Yeah what what what is it?
Oh? Got you got you?But yeah, man um, Yeah,
that's it. That's that's well,it's not as much small as as
we gave for what was the lastmovie, h Mario, but it was
(46:30):
it was a lot more detailer Mark, Yeah, it's a whole lot more
detail, but take us out.So that's been the nerve box. I'm
Duce Major, I'm dum and weappreciate you for tuning in. Piece am
mean, they kill him, butI'm next with the machete. Major won't
die because the boy wore a readywarm man on the swimp about to pull
(46:51):
him back to Velly. I'm gonnaghost in the Skuys. Couldn't tell you
want to die, but I walkthis morning then fresh out amazing, but
a feel badman.
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