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September 3, 2024 32 mins
Lyndsay Soprano explores the incredible benefits of magnesium with Natalie Jurado, the visionary behind Rooted In, a company known for its therapeutic magnesium-infused moisturizers. Natalie opens up about her battle with severe insomnia and anxiety and how her discovery of magnesium became a game-changer in her life. Together, they uncover how this essential mineral can work wonders on insomnia, pain, and stress by delivering it straight to the cells that need it most. From supporting over 700 biochemical reactions in the body to enhancing muscle and nerve function, magnesium is presented as a key to unlocking better sleep, mood, and overall well-being.

As a thought leader and educator, Natalie challenges common misconceptions about magnesium and emphasizes its indispensable role in our health. She also gives us a behind-the-scenes look at how she developed her luxurious magnesium creams, crafted to be as enjoyable as they are effective—standing out in a market full of less appealing options.

This episode is packed with inspiration and practical tips for anyone facing the challenges of chronic pain, insomnia, or stress, offering a fresh perspective on living a healthier, more vibrant life.

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Website: berootedin.com
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Episode Highlights:
(00:00) Introduction and Personal Experience
(02:06) Understanding Magnesium and Its Importance
(09:05) The Widespread Issue of Magnesium Deficiency
(15:23) Magnesium for Mood, Workouts, and Weight Loss
(19:27) Magnesium's Role in Reducing Cholesterol Levels
(21:13) Dosing and Regulation of Magnesium Cream
(27:27) The Drawbacks of Pill Form Magnesium and the Importance of Diet
(37:29) The Role of Magnesium in Pain Relief and Muscle Relaxation
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about
the game of living in and with chronic pain and
trauma get into the heart of how to heal. I
am your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan
on discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, holistic practitioners, loved ones,
and anybody that is interested in having their voice.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Heard in the chronic pain and trauma world that we
live in.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Insomnia, pain, and stress.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Those are words that are spoken in my household every
fricking day, and as you all know by now, I
have issues with all three of those, amongst many others also,
as you know, and I have for as long as
I can remember. Over the years since my painful diagnosis
of CRPS coupled with lime disease, sleep has not been

(01:02):
my friend. Most of it is due to pain and
also busy brain disorder, which I talk about often, and
that busy brain disorder comes from my anxiety, panic, attacks, stress,
all of those things that we talk about a lot
on this show. So what I'm getting at here is insomnia, stress,
and pain is all connected, at least from my perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
And I don't know about you, but i'd like to
sleep deeper.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I'd like to stress less, and I want to feel
my absolute best, which I don't even know the last
time I felt wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
That is sad to say out loud.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Without depending on Big Pharma, because you know how I
am about Big Pharma. All these addictive, toxic supplements and
medications that we take. I mean, it just adds up
and adds up in our body and certainly our bank
accounts as well.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
And I mean, we have spent so much money on
supplementation to.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Get well, to sleep, to cure this, to cure that,
and I'm sick and tired of it. I'm sick and
tired of being tired. I'm sick and tired of migraines.
I'm sick and tired of anxiety. And I'm still certain,
constantly right for us to find some form of solution
for this. So today I would like to talk about rest,
relief and tranquility by using magnesium. Now, before you're like,

(02:11):
magnesium makes me poop, just wait for our guest today
because she's going to debunk that entire stigma and chat
with us about how we can deliver magnesium straight into
ourselves so we can say goodbye to the Big three,
which I coined for this episode, insomnia, pain, and stress. So,
without further ado, I would like to introduce you to

(02:33):
my guest today, Natalie Dorado.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Hello Darling, Hello, Hello, thanks for having me on. I
am psyched to talk about my favorite topic in the
entire world, magnesium.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Who'd have thought, like we're in elementary school, like I'm
going to be like a gung ho magnesium chick.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Never never would.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I thought never would.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I thought that I would be in a wheelchair for
half of my life either, So you know, shit happens.
So Natalie is the founder of Rooted In. It's a
company with a line of therapeutic magnesium infused moisturizers, right,
not supplements. We're going to talk about that that actively calm.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
A word I'm not used to and relax your mood.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Natalie is a sought after thought leader, educator, and speaker
and has worked at the forefront of the wellness industry
for almost a decade. She's considered an expert in all
things magnesium, and her mission is to spread awareness of
this powerful mineral to all who struggle with the Big Three,
Like I said, amongst other ailments, to live their most
vibrant lives. And I don't know about you, but that

(03:37):
sounds pretty awesome to me. So all right, I'm rolling
out the red carpet for you, babe. I'd like to
start talking about what magnesium actually is and why our
bodies need it, and then let's take it from there.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Absolutely. So, magnesium is ultra super uber trendy right now.
You turn on any you know, Instagram, post, TikTok and
all over the place, and a lot of times people
are like, Okay, what is it, I need this, you know,
to go bonkers for it. But it's all it is
is a mineral, right. It's just a mineral that that's
present in our food. It's not a drug. It's not
something we need a prescription for. It's a mineral that's

(04:10):
present in our food that we're supposed to be getting
through our diet. We're supposed to be eating all of
those mineral rich foods and drinking that mineral rich water
so that we can fuel our bodies with magnesium. This
mineral is responsible for over seven hundred different biochemical reactions
in your body.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
WHOA seven hundred things? Holynesium? Wow?

Speaker 4 (04:35):
It's also present in every single one of our trillions
of cells. So without magnesium, we wouldn't live anymore. Like
it'd be game over. So it is that vital, It
is that unbelievably important to all of our bodily functions.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean, in researching this, it's talking about regulating
muscle and nerve function, balancing blood sugar and blood pressure,
making protein and bone and DNA is supporting immune system
and an energy like.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
All of these things. I'm like, holy crap.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
So she has this magnesium quiz on her website which
I took and I totally epically failed it, right, because
I know with my stuff, as you guys know, I
have a little, a cute, little eating disorder that happened
with all this pain stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
So I definitely don't get a lot of the nutrients
that I.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Need from food because food is now a bigger challenge
than it used to be for me. So why did
you even get into magnesium?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well, first of all, lindsay, you're not alone, Like up
to seventy percent of our population fails to get enough magnesium.
So like, if you're hearing this, you're probably low in
magnesium too. So it is really unbelievably widespread. It's become
an epidemic because our standard American diet just isn't really
what it's supposed to be. So it really is a
huge issue in our society.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Oh for sure, especially here in America. I mean, I
go travel into Europe, I have no issues with food.
My stomach doesn't have any problems. Wine doesn't drive me crazy,
Like it's it's unbelievable what.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
We do to our food here in America.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
It's terrible, absolutely true, tragic, what we allow in our
food system and what we are conditioned and programmed to
eat on a regular basis.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
So we you mentioned in the beginning about being psyched
about magnesium, So talk a little bit about why you're
so psyched and how you got into it, because I
know your story is similar to mine in some nature.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, absolutely, So, like most people, our solution comes from
the problems that we personally face.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Right.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
So, I was struggling with severe insomnia, sleeping about two
hours a night, and that two hours wasn't even two
hours straight. It was like I'd sleep and then I'd
wake up, and then I'd it was awful. So too,
severe severe insomnia anxiety that just really upended my entire life.
And then coupled, of course by panic attacks. So I'd
be at the grocery store, right in line to check out,

(06:44):
panic attack would happen, leave all the groceries run out
the store. So it was absolutely like I was struggling
to drive, I was struggling to take care of my kids.
I was struggling to hold down a job. Like people
really had gotten out of control. And I was doing
what everybody tells you you're supposed to do, you know,
eating a good healthy pip whole foods diet, and making
sure that you exercise regularly and take time out for yourself.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Air quotes for sure self care.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yes, of course, when people say, you know, hey, you
just have to stop stressing. Sure I'll do that.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I'll just stop thanks man, Yeah, I'll just knock that
off exactly.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
So I was doing everything you're supposed to do, and
I was still really, really struggling. So I did what
most people, you know, most normal people do. You go
to the doctor and you say, hey, doc, i'm not working,
fix me. And so the doctor sent me to a
bunch of specialists. She did so much blood. I took
so much blood work. I felt like a human pincushion.
And when it was all said and down done, she
sat me down and she said, Natalie, there's nothing wrong

(07:42):
with you. She's like, there's your blood work is perfect,
you're in range. Everything's great. And then she sent me
on my way with a litany of prescriptions that all
made me feel like a great out zombie like it
made me feel like somebody had sucked all the color
out of my world and that I felt nothing. And
so in my world, I'd rather feel something than feel nothing.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
So I decided, you know that the doctor was not
going to be in charge of what I consider normal.
So my blood work may have been normal, but my
behaviors and the feeling my mental health was not. And
so I decided to take control and just dive into
everything I possibly could. I did acupuncture, I met with nutritionists,
I met with dieticians, I met with energy healers, I
know chirorect I did.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Everything, Yeah, for sure, all the things.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
All of the things. Spent all of the money and
did all of the things. And at the end of
the day, it wasn't until I bumped into a random
stranger at a farmer's market. She was an older lady
and her and I got to talking. She's like, have
you tried magnesium. I'm like, lady, I've tried every pill
under the sun. And she's like, no, no, have you
sprayed it on your skin? Put it on your skin.
I'm like, all right, ran to the health food store,
bought a bottle of magnesium spray, sprayed it all over

(08:49):
my body and it itched, irritated and burned the heck
out of my skin. But I slept that night, and
then I kept using it for a week. I went
from sleeping two hours a night to sleeping six hours night.
Anxiety started away. Did not have a panic attack in
an entire week, which was huge for me. Wow, what
made me go, wait a second, This this lady at
the farmer's market, she was onto something, and that spurred

(09:09):
all the research. I kind of went down the rabbit hole,
you know. I got hyper focused on it, went down
the rabbit hole and started realizing that we have a
serious problem in this country, Like people shouldn't have to
spend the amount of money that I spent on treatments
just to get no answers, especially when it's an answer
that's right there in front of us.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, and you're talking about all of the blood work
and anybody that has been ill chronic pain, all of us,
we've been through that litany of blood. Like you said,
you're a pincushion. I absolutely understand it because I've been
sliced and diced and poked and prodded.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I'm like, I am not cattle.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Like this is the worst and my body took such
a beating. I mean, some of it's my own fault,
because you know, we all go research and Google is
our worst enemy sometimes and.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
You're like, oh, I'll try this ball, try that.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
We give everything a try because we always say, well,
let's throw more spaghetti at the wall and.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
See what sticks.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'm still seeking, especially when it comes with sleep, and
pain is what keeps me up, mostly with sleep. But
I've been insomniac since i was nine years old. I
wasn't in pain when I was nine. I had childhood trauma,
which of course came out, and you know, through this show,
I'm trying to work through that. Thank you for being
my therapist. By the way, listeners, it's pretty unbelievable that

(10:22):
something that's natural in our environment, in our world, magnesium
of all things, can tackle all of these ailments. I'm
just I'm I'm just stoked about it.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Absolutely. It's I always like to compare it to like
gas in a car. You know, when you put gas
in your car runs because it's got the right fuel.
But when we fill our car with sugar and processed
foods and all the stuff that's not gas, then the
car is not going to work right. And we are
the same way that because magnesium is involved in all
of those different functions in our body. Without it, our

(10:54):
body just doesn't function the way that it's supposed to it.
It's a foundational nutrient that we need in order to exist.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
So when you first decided, you went down all your
rabbit holes.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
You're reaching out to nutritionists and doctors and all of this,
and you started this whole journey for yourself. You decided, okay,
this is helping. But you started with that spray and
it was itchy and I wreck. I know because I
did the same thing. It actually burned me. And with CRPS,
I don't know how familiar are with CRPS. It's super rare,
but I feel like I'm on fire twenty four hours

(11:25):
a day from my bone marrow out from head to toe.
So for me, anything that even gives like capsation, for example,
anything that has any kind of like tingling or heat sensation.
Oh my gosh, it's like I'm standing in a fireplace.
So that rings really true to me about the spray
versus what your products do. So I want to get
into a little bit about how you started. Now I

(11:47):
want to do this for a living. And your story
is great with your family packing things up in your
in your living room and then making a garage out
of it, and your story is so wonderful, So let's
get into that a little bit.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah. Absolutely, So I start doing all this research and
I started thinking, okay, what we've got to take this
spray and put it into a cream because the spray
is awesome, but it feels horrible. So I'm like, if
you mix it into a lotion and make that lotion
work for us, let's do that. And I started looking
at what is out there, and there are magnesium creams
on the market. Unfortunately, the ones that are out there

(12:19):
are either made on Etsy by some lady in her
kitchen and you don't know if her cats are dancing
all around the formula, and.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm dead cats dancing around the kitchen in that sea store.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Look, I don't need from everybody's house. I don't use
products from everybody's else.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Oh my god, exactly.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
You know, so you never really know. And the other
side of that is does it have a therapeutic comount
of magnesium? And you can't guarantee that when you're buying
that from somebody who's making it in their kitchen, right,
they can't tell you how much magnesium is actually in
the product. And we know from the studies whether we
need about five hundred milligrams and magnesium chloride twice a
day on our skin in order to adically raise at
raise our magnesium levels. So we know that there is

(13:03):
a therapeutic goal when we're going when we're using magnesium cream.
The other side of the spectrum is that the magnesium
cream is on the market all. The other side of
that is that they all come from like chiropractor's offices,
and they smell, look and feel like medicine. So they're
sticky and they smell like your grandmother's medicine cabinet. Like
you don't want to put it on your skin.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's like, does it smell like ben gay in hair
or what? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Exactly, like you know you know who that person is.
With the ben Gay, I can see right for sure.
And so like I wanted something that felt good, that
looked good, and that would seamlessly replace your regular everyday
body moisturizer. Because the truth is, especially when you've gone
down journeys like yours and eyes, where you've tried every
supplement under the sun, you are sick and tired of

(13:46):
remembering to take a supplement. And now percent of the
time my ADHD kicks up and I'm gonna forget for
at least two weeks in a row. So like I
needed something that was seamless, something that like, Okay, I
already put lotion on every day, let me put on
a lotion that actually does something for me and that
way I don't have to think about it. So that
was the whole intent behind the cream, is to create
something that I can use, my kids can use, my

(14:06):
pregnant friend can use, and my elderly grandmother can use,
like everybody can use it. And it's simple to use.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
And I just ordered her products actually the other day,
and so I'm looking forward to trying these out. And
I like that it's a moisturizer, like you're talking about
because especially with us women, every morning we get ready, we're.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Used to doing that. Men not so much.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
They stink at moisturizing and they stink at taking care
of their skin and their hair and all of that
because they're not myopically looked at like women are. They're
not waking up putting ama scare lipstick every morning, are they.
So I want to talk about the benefits of magnesium
that you can see fairly quickly with using your product.

(14:47):
Because on the show, I don't do products like I'm
doing right now. I do not do this because this
isn't a show to sell. It's a show to help
give people hope in their living environments. But you, particularly
your and your product is something that I feel very
very strong about.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
So can we talk a little bit about that. Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Absolutely, So. In order to truly truly understand the benefits
of magnesium, we have to understand the symptoms. So what
it looks like what a typical magnesium deficient person is
going to look like. They're going to struggle with sleep,
They're gonna have a hard time falling asleep and staying asleep.
They're gonna have restless legs, they'll have cramping, in their muscles,
muscle twitching. They'll have chronic headaches and migraines. They'll have

(15:26):
hormonal swings and hormonal issues, moodiness, irritability, mind excessive mind chatter,
they'll have I mean, and if you hear these symptoms,
you're like, wow, that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
That's me.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
You literally just listen every single thing that I do.
I like the men, what was the mindless chattering? That's
what I call busy brain disorder. I just like, I'm
trying to solve the world's problems all night long. Oh yeah, absolutely,
But if I think I'm God every problem while making
a real cheese right, exactly, right. Yeah, So that is
that's classical symptoms of magnesium deficiency. And the problem is

(15:59):
it's often referred to as invisible deficiency because if you
go to your doctor with those issues, they're not going
to say, oh, that's probably no magnesium. They're going to say, oh,
you have this, you have this, you give you every
other label under the sun, which is what they did
to me, and not even discuss nutrition.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
And the role of these minerals in our diet. So
that's why it's typically overlooked and diagnosed for something else.
So that's why it's so often called the invisible deficiency.
So when we look at the benefits of magnesium, the
benefits are when you give your body the nutrients and
minerals that it needs, it functions the way it's supposed to. Right.
So oftentimes I'll tell people that magnesium is going to

(16:34):
knock you out and help you sleep, but it's also
going to give you energy throughout the day. And people
often ask, Okay, how does it make you sleep and
give you energy?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Right, That's what I'm going to ask.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
It's because it helps your body do what your body
is supposed to do. Our bodies are built to be
able to sleep at night and rest and recover, and
our bodies are built to have energy throughout the day
and be able to get all of our things done.
So it literally makes our body do what it's supposed
to do. And so it makes your body function though
just in a wonderful, practical way, right.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
And I find that it's interesting and reading more about
this and obviously going through all of your stuff with
a fine tooth com that it also helps, like you mentioned,
boost mood, but it.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Also helps with your workouts. It helps reduce belly fat.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
It helps you lose weight again because it's helping your
body do what it's supposed to do. And it sounds
like magic in a jar, right of course it does,
and everyone's like, yeah, yeah, sure, it's a cream.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I don't know, guys.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Everything that I have taken over my entire journey here
with my pain, there has been only a few things
that have worked. And that was changing from normal western
medic medicine to functional That's how I found out I
had lime disease. That's how I found out I had
all these co infections around that.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
That's nuts to.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Me, absolutely, And it's funny you said, Akiba's word your cholesterol,
So let's talk about my basic cholesterol.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Let's do that.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Because my cholesterol is three twenty five and I weigh
one hundred and ten down, It's like what And I
don't eat anything that could raise my cholesterol at all.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
So it could be and I'm not, of course not diagnosing.
You speak with your functional medicine doctor. Yeah, I will
fine print right, but it could be due to low
magnesium so actually limits the activity of a cholesterol enzyme
called hmg CoA reduct taste, and that enzyme basically is
responsible for turning on and turning off cholesterol. It's your

(18:26):
on off switch for cholesterol. It's the same switch that
drugs like statins activate, right, so cholesterol because they activate
that same enzyme. So magnesium's job in the body is
to activate that shut off switch. And when you don't
have enough magnesium, that switch doesn't get shut off, and
so you're pumping out more and more and more cholesterol.

(18:46):
And so people find that when they start supplementing with magnesium,
they find that they one of the great side effects
is that their cholesterol starts to go down rather quickly actually,
so it really can be an effective way to intervene
with cholesterol.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
So how does it work as far as dosing is concerned?
Because it is a cream, right, and so when we
think about supplements, there is a specific pill and there's
a certain amount in it. How do you actually dose
yourself when you're using the cream.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
So the beautiful thing about using magnesium on your skin
is that your skin will help regulate how much magnesium
you absorb, so you can't overdose on magnesium through your skin.
I like to compare it to swimming in the ocean.
So the ocean is actually made up of thirty five
percent magnesium chloride, and we can swim all day long
like I'm a Florida girly. We're at the beach any
chance we get, and I can swim all day long.

(19:35):
And nobody ever in the history of time has ever said,
get out of the water. You're going to overdose on magnesium. Right, So,
our skin will regulate how much magnesium we do absorb,
so you can use it freely as often as needed
without ever having to worry. It's also why it's so
safe to use while you're pregnant. It's also safe to
use on your children. Children desperately need magnesium. It is

(19:59):
so un believably overlooked. There are just incredible studies done
on ADHD and children showing that the participants in the
studies who all had ADHD were just severely low in magnesium,
and when they started supplementing with magnesium, a lot of
those symptoms improved. So we are seeing correlations with a
lot of childhood diseases and low magnesium as well. And

(20:21):
it's primarily because our kids are not eating the foods
that are high in magnesium, like spinach, nuts, leafy greens, seeds.
I don't know about you, but my teenagers, like I
have to force them to eat a vegetable. So it's
really hard to get enough magnesium into our children.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
And yeah, the diet thing is a huge thing, especially
with kids. I mean, I've got nieces and nephews, and
two of my nephews they literally live on fast food.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's like every single thing that they pay for is
like Jack in the Box and like Uber Eats and
door dashing, and it's all this fast food that is
all they're eating. And it makes me sick to my
stomach to even think about why that's happening, much less
what they're missing out on in their development and their
focus and their mood and their sleep. These sleep they

(21:09):
eat like shit and then they crash and burn and
then they have to sleep like half of the day away.
And it's really frustrating to watch because you're like, guys,
it's a beautiful day out, like let's get out, let's
go do some stuff, and they're totally tired and run down.
And it's really sad because we're watching. It's like an
epidemic with our kids.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
We couple that with the fact that we put these
ridiculous demands on these kids, especially when they're younger, to
stay seated in a classroom for eight hours a day
and then take a bunch of tests and do homework
when they get home. I'm like, oh my goodness, it's
awful what we're doing to our children.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
It is.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
And COVID didn't help us either at all. And so
we've especially in the younger age brackets where you know,
they didn't have anything. What were they were they all
eating McDonald's time during COVID. I have no idea how
any of it worked, because I wasn't around my nieces
and nephews during that span of time. But it just
it drives me nuts that we tend to do the

(22:06):
quick fix. Our doctors Western medicine specifically, just like you've
mentioned and I have as well, is they're like, well,
you have anxiety, well, let's put you on an anti
anxiety medication. Let's do this for depression, let's do this,
and then they cause all these other side effects and
you're like, wait a second, so now I have to
take this for that side effect because of this pill
that gave me the It's just it's unbelievable, and that's
why I started in the beginning talking about how I

(22:28):
have worked very very hard to not do the big
pharma thing, especially with my pain, and it took me
almost like dying, for me to change my mind about
Western medicine. I mean, they have it has its place obviously, right,
but in our case, for this type of conversation, I
don't feel that it does because a lot of doctors
are now bogged down with paperwork and they're not asking

(22:51):
nutrition questions, they're not asking about lifestyle. They don't have
time to spend with us. And that's what functional medicine
they do. They legitimately spend an hour and a half
with you, like it's wonderful for all of that testing.
So it's clear that magnesium changed your life. I mean
that is a powerful.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Message, absolutely, And and like I said earlier, you can't
supplement your way out of a bad die. So always
make sure you're doing the right steps you're taking, you know,
taking care of yourself, doing everything else. Because a lot
of people will say, well I tried magnesium and it
didn't work, and I'm like, okay, what did you eat,
how are you living? You know, what type did you take?
Don't give magnesium a bad name because you're taking it wrong,
you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so like you know, so

(23:31):
I always had these follow up questions. And when it
comes down to it, most of the time they're taking
the wrong type, or they're living just a fast food
fueled lifestyle, or they're they're you know, maybe not taking
a good quality brand. So there's always more to it.
When somebody says, oh, magnesium didn't work for me.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
After researching so much more about this, I fell in
love with this mineral.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I'm because it seems too good to be true.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
But how can you well, you know, there are some
people that don't believe in science, so you guys can
just hang up. But when it comes to science based,
you know, information, I tend to follow it. And this
is this is pretty unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Absolutely, and I always tell people everything that I'm saying
you can find it on the National Institute of Health
is actually readily available for people to find. It's just
if you don't know what to search for. Just likewise,
if you don't know which questions to ask your physician,
it's hard to know to know what you don't know.
And that kind of leads me to another thing. A
lot of people will go get their magnesium check. They'll
go and say, hey, doc, I heard some crazy lady

(24:29):
talking about magnesium. I need to get my magnesium level shecked. Yeah,
they'll go make that appointment with their physician. They get
a magnesium serum test and the magnesium comes back perfectly fine,
and then they reach out to me saying, well, my
magnesium's fine. What you know. Does that mean they need
to supplement? Yes, one hundred thousand million percent. And the
reason why is because magnesium blood tests are not a
good indicator of overall magnesium deficiency. And that's because about

(24:53):
sixty percent of your body's magnesium is stored in your bones,
the other forty percent is in your muscles, tissues, and organs,
and less than one percent is actually short in your blood.
So if you like, gosh, looks fine, that doesn't mean
that you haven't been struggling with deficiency all throughout your
body for the last ten years, even though your blood
works perfectly fine. So and physicians, unfortunately, they don't often

(25:13):
know that. So it's really important to be informed and
to make sure you have these conversations with your doctors
and ask them the right questions.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
And how do you get magnesium tests then that are
accurate with your bones and your muscles and all of that.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
So the National Institute of Help has said that there
is no accurate test for magnesium deficiency that's available to
the public. You would have to do some of these
really wild, you know, bone tests. That is just not
something that we have access to. So what they say,
what they recommend is to go based off of your symptomology.
So if you have all of those symptoms of magnesium deficiency,

(25:47):
try it, start supplementing with it, and if your symptoms
go away, then you know it was just magnesium deficiency.
The beautiful thing is magnesium is safe, safe to supplement
with the only people who really should avoid it are
people who have very low blood pressure or people who
have kidney disease, as your kidney's process magnesium and get
rid of any excess, so if those aren't working, then
you could put yourself in danger. So those people need

(26:08):
to be cautious. But outside of that, it's relatively safe
to use.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Does that affect people with diabetes? Just out of curiosity
in terms of does magnesium effect people with diabetes? Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Magnesium actually helps regulate your insulent insulin levels, so people
who have diabetes tend to benefit from taking magnesium. The
other side of that is that sugar will deplete your
magnesium levels. So for every one molecule of sugar that

(26:34):
you eat, it takes fifty four molecules of magnesium to
balance that out. So the more wow, the more sugar
we eat, the more we torture magnesium. The lower magnesium is,
the less responsive we are to insulin. So we see
that there's this real vicious cycle when it comes to
blood sugar and magnesium deficiency.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
I honestly cannot even believe this conversation.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I needed to two and a half years ago when
I started this show. Actually, then I probably wouldn't even
have a show anymore because I'd be just fine. No,
everybody knows I'm crazy. I'm never going to be fine.
But when it comes to the magnesium supplementation, because I've
read so much about it, especially in the pain department.
So can you touch this real quick before we hit
the dusty trail here on how magnesium can help with pain.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Absolutely, So, magnesium is responsible for relaxing our muscles, so calcium,
on the other hand, is responsible for tightening our muscles.
So essentially, when our heart beats, since our heart is
a muscle, it's calcium and magnesium doing this beautiful dance
tightening and relaxing that muscle. The issue is is that
in our standard American diet, we get entirely too much calcium.
Like the other day at the grocery store, I saw

(27:41):
calcium and rich cereal, calcium and riched orange shoes, calcium
and rich bread. Everything has calcium in it, and unfortunately
we're not getting enough magnesium. There isn't enough magnesium and
rich products out there to really balance that out, so
we wind up with all of this calcium, not enough magnesium,
and our muscles are constantly tight, tense, twitching, and causing
just pain throughout our body. The other side of that

(28:04):
is that magnesium is an incredibly powerful anti inflammatory. There
was a study done, I believe it was back in
twenty sixteen that tested people's CRP levels right and they found,
you know, participants that all had dramatically high CRP levels,
and after supplementing, they found that those CRP levels went
right back to normal. So they are seeing a really

(28:25):
interesting correlation between high CRP and low magnesium as well.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Wow, I'm well, like I've said, I'm kind of mind blown,
especially because we've tried so many things and it sounds
so simple. But for something so simple that affects so
many processes within our bodies, I'm just like, I'm going
to shout you off the rooftops if this stuff works
for me. I can't even begin to explain I'm going
to make you a millionaire.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Send me an affiliate marketing link. I'm in.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I'll take it seriously because in all of these conversations
that I speak with doctors and practitioners and all of
this about pain, not one time has magnesium shown up
in the conversation.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
It is absolutely wild. I feel like Oprah needs to
do a show about magnesium. Like, honestly, I feel like
everybody needs magnesium. It's funny because in our household, anybody
has anything wrong, I'm like, you should need a magnesium
you just know.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Us just cram on.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Everything.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Do you have stocking suffer sizes? You know.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Everybody's getting it this year?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Oh my gosh, Well, this is just unbelievable. What an
awesome conversation today. Before we head out of here, is
there anything that you'd like to leave our listeners with.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Just to not accept anybody else's version of normal. You
get to decide what your normal is. No doctor, no physician,
no one else in your world is allowed to tell
you what you consider normal. So don't give up.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh I love that for sure, Yes, absolutely, Because our
body is our body and we do not act the
same as the person next to us. Our bodies are
not the same, and I hate that we're treated, especially women.
We're treated like we're making it up, or we're dramatic,
or we're.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Emotional, We're all these things.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
We're emotional and we're dramatic because we feel like crap
all the time.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
We have so many bands on us all the time.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
All the time, for sure.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
So she's got we can find her online everywhere at
be rooted in dot com. She is on Insta and
Facebook and TikTok at be rooted, And thank you for
being consistent with your handles.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
By the way, it's so much easier to find you.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
She's got that magnesium type cheat sheet on our website
as well.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I'll put this in show notes and in social as well.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
And thank you so much for educating us on this
incredible magnesium riffic supplementation. Because the pill form. I can't
believe how much of it I have in my house
right now. That's all getting dumped.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Well, thank you, Lindsay for doing what you're doing to
really spread awareness and just help people out all around
the world. It's pretty awesome.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Thanks. I'm doing the best I can, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Like we said in the beginning, I had no idea
that I would ever be doing something like this, and
it is.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
It is my joy and my world.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
It is my soul food to do this show and
to meet people like yourself. So thanks so much for
being here. I really appreciate it. You are exclusively invited
to share this magnesium Riffic VIP.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Pain journey together.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Let's get to the heart of how to heal with
you by my side. There's absolutely got to be one
of you out there that needed to hear this conversation
right or you know somebody that needed to send them
our way. Both Natalie and I are here. We will
one hundred percent answer questions that you might have. You
can reach out to me on social media and I
can connect you with her. If you have any additional
questions about these products.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And about magnesium as a whole.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I would love to help all of you guys feel better,
including myself. That's what we do here right give our
pain some purpose. Please follow the Pain Game Podcast wherever
you digest your podcast content, we.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Will be there.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Visit us at the pain gamepodcast dot com and follow
us on all the socials. Thanks for listening my little VIPs.
Catch you on the other side.
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