September 23, 2025 • 45 mins
There’s a reason the stress never really leaves your body, because most of us never actually face it. In this episode, Lyndsay Soprano sits down with Amy Vincze for a deeply honest conversation about the emotional roots of chronic pain, the weight of unspoken trauma, and how tapping can help you finally release what you’ve been holding onto for way too long.
Amy shares how tapping therapy (EFT) became a lifeline for her and her clients—a practice that goes beyond surface-level stress relief and helps regulate the nervous system, lower cortisol, and make space for emotional truth. Together, they dive into the connection between emotional overwhelm and physical pain, the fear of slowing down, and the way we’ve been taught to normalize struggle instead of heal from it.
This conversation also touches on the chakra system as a map for both emotional and physical symptoms, and why addressing foundational fears is crucial for lasting change. Healing, they remind us, isn’t always pretty, but it’s worth it. And it often starts with giving yourself permission to feel what you've been avoiding.
Tune in if you’re ready to stop pushing through and start listening to what your body’s been trying to say all along.
Find Amy Vincze Online Here:
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TikTok: @soarwithtapping
YouTube: Soar With Tapping
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Episode Highlights:
(00:00) Introduction to Chronic Pain and Trauma
(02:10) Exploring Tapping and Emotional Freedom Techniques
(09:46) Understanding Chakras and Their Role in Healing
(17:47) Navigating Trauma and Foundational Fears
(22:39) Guided Tapping Session for Stress Relief
(39:54) Conclusion and Resources for Healing
Amy shares how tapping therapy (EFT) became a lifeline for her and her clients—a practice that goes beyond surface-level stress relief and helps regulate the nervous system, lower cortisol, and make space for emotional truth. Together, they dive into the connection between emotional overwhelm and physical pain, the fear of slowing down, and the way we’ve been taught to normalize struggle instead of heal from it.
This conversation also touches on the chakra system as a map for both emotional and physical symptoms, and why addressing foundational fears is crucial for lasting change. Healing, they remind us, isn’t always pretty, but it’s worth it. And it often starts with giving yourself permission to feel what you've been avoiding.
Tune in if you’re ready to stop pushing through and start listening to what your body’s been trying to say all along.
Find Amy Vincze Online Here:
Website: soarwithtapping.com
Instagram: @soarwithtapping
LinkedIn: Amy Vincze
TikTok: @soarwithtapping
YouTube: Soar With Tapping
Find The Pain Game Podcast Online Here:
Website: thepaingamepodcast.com
Instagram: @thepaingamepodcast
Facebook: The Pain Game Podcast
LinkedIn: Lyndsay Soprano
YouTube: The Pain Game Podcast
Episode Highlights:
(00:00) Introduction to Chronic Pain and Trauma
(02:10) Exploring Tapping and Emotional Freedom Techniques
(09:46) Understanding Chakras and Their Role in Healing
(17:47) Navigating Trauma and Foundational Fears
(22:39) Guided Tapping Session for Stress Relief
(39:54) Conclusion and Resources for Healing
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about
the game of living in and with chronic pain and trauma.
Get into the heart of how to heal. I am
your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan on
discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, holistic practitioners, loved ones,
and anybody that is interested in having their voice.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Heard in the chronic pain and trauma world that we
live in.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh my goodness, human behavior. What in the world drives
the motivations behind our behaviors?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And I am the queen of behavioral issues.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Like straight up, it started really young, the acting out,
acting up behaviors, if you will. And I'm not really
sure where the rebellion stems from. Where did my seeking
out alternatives to making me feel better come from? Where
did this mountain of anxiety stem from that I live
(01:13):
with on the daily?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But on this show, we are seekers, right, we're here.
I am here seeking for me, I am seeking for.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
You, and I don't know about you, but I'm sick
and tired of masking my emotions. I'm sick of masking
my symptoms. I'm sick of masking my feelings. I want resolve,
I want resolve to this. I want resolved to the
hidden emotional and energetic blocks that have gone unnoticed. And
(01:42):
now I have been like starting to slow that slow boil, right.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
When you're boiling your noodles and you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Get that little bubble and then all of a sudden,
your pan explodes and you're like, crap, I forgot about it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
My bread's in the oven.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
All of that and all that boiling up has turned
into illness, chronic pain, quite frankly, massive, irritability, anger, resentment,
name it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So what can we do to transform this? How can
we truly alter our lives?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Are you ready, guys, for daring and courageous approach to
healing and end the emotional struggle?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I shore am, And so today.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
We are going to tap into the effectiveness of well tapping.
And I know we have talked about tapping on the
show before, but this is a completely different approach, even
though they use the same technique.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So I want to get into it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So today we're going to talk about how chakras can
be a map and guidance system to code physical symptoms
within our bodies, how to tap through fear and distrust
within our bods, how we can tap dance all over,
treatment from our doctors and lack of support and so
much more.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So, without further ado, I would like to introduce you
to my guest today, my beautiful and amazing, amazing Amy Vinsa.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hi, baby, Hi, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Oh my gosh, it's so great to have you here.
I'm gonna tap, I'm gonna tap you in here.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
She is a tapping coach, healing advocate, and founder of
the Sore with Tapping app, which is amaze balls. With
over twenty years in wellness and sixteen plus years specializing
in emotional freedom techniques, that's ef t Aka tapping guys,
Amy has helped countless people release trauma, pain and limiting beliefs.
(03:33):
Amy believes healing is possible, and so do I. And
often it starts spread at your fingertips. So for those
of you who do not know what tapping is, because
there are I mean, we've got I'm going to assume
that every listener on this show is listening to every
episode from one until today.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Which would be amazing if you have.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But if you are new here, can you just give
a little intro about what tapping actually is.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So tapping is a combo of three different modalities, and
I think that's what makes it so powerful. So firstly,
it is energy therapy. It's just like acupuncture, and that
it utilizes the fourteen energy meridians found in Chinese medicine.
Instead of needles. Obviously, we're using the percussion of tapping
on our acupressure points in order to facilitate healing. There's
(04:22):
also the cognitive therapy aspect, where you are actively talking
about what it is you want to release and which
is a huge, huge thing, bigal to actually get it
out of your body. But then there's also the somatic
therapy element because when you're tapping on your body, you
(04:42):
can't help but kind of gather your energy back from
the past, gather your energy back from worrying about the future,
and then really get yourself grounded in the present moment
where most of the time everything is actually okay. So
you're doing all these three things at lunch, which are
really powerful combo. But what's happening on a scientific level
(05:02):
is that you know, when we get stressed, the stress
center in our brain gets triggered, that the amigdala gets triggered.
We get into fight or flight mode. Really easily for
most people, it's like twenty four to seven. Now it's
become a really normalized.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
We're always being chased by yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So when we're in that state though, and cortisol is
rushed in our bodies, it's really hard to kind of
get us out of that state. So what tapping does
is that is telling our amigdala over and over and
over again, de escalate, de escalate, de escalate, it's okay
to feel safe and calm in this moment. And it
is taking cortisol out of our body. It's reducing it
(05:46):
forty three percent faster than if you had done nothing else.
It's lowering our heart rate, it's lowering our blood pressure,
it is increasing our immune system response, and increasing our
happiness levels. It's doing all of those things at once.
So that's why it's so powerful and so fast. It's
really taking that stress response out of the equation. It's
(06:11):
allowing kind of the nervous system signals to get to
the prefrontal cortex in our brain again, which is where
we can make sound logical decisions.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Are what are sound logical decisions? I'm sorry, I'm usually
this It's like, see, what is that?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Right right, because I would love to do all of
those three things. Sounds logical decisions with sleep combined, yes, yes,
But when you're so stressed out all the time and
the overwhelm is there, it's hard to sleep and make
logical decisions.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Like it sounds logically. You're just like everything feels like
I always tell my sweetie that it feels like my
brain like somebody is scrambling eggs in my brain all day.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
That's what it feels like. It's just a big freaking
scrabbled egg pie up there.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You're triggered twenty four to seven. You've got cortisol in
your body constantly, and that is your normalized state, especially
if you've been in that state for a long period
of time.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's my right, That's all I Know's yeah, that's all
I know. I've been chased by a bear since I
was nine. That's it hard stop.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And there's we have to admit too that society kind
of conditions us to have feel like a little badge
of honor about that too. Like I'm so stressed because
I'm important, you know, and I'm in my business. I'm
doing a really good job, and you know, all those
things and so we we kind of make it okay.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We make it okay, but we are not we normalize.
We're like, this is what. In fact, it's interesting that
you said that. I will call this woman. Her name
is Stephanie.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I won't use her last name, but she When I
first started my marketing agency, it was actually a communications consultancy.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I didn't know what the F I was doing. I
was like, I'm starting my business. I don't know what
it's going to be called.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't know what I'm gonna do, but it's called
Metamorphosis Creations. And I started it and it ended up
being called Meta, and then I turned it hard to
believe that no Meta is Facebook, but whatever it was Meta,
I should have trademarked that then so Zuckerbug could give
me a billion dollars. But I turned Meta into bound
by marketing.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So anyways, long story story, I started that business and
it was like immediately the first thing I did when
I walked in the door and I met this gal, Stephanie.
She made me wait for twelve hours on a couch
waiting to meet her, and I sat there, and I
sat there, and I waited and I waited because I'm
like I'm gonna get this gig. And she taught me
(08:48):
more stuff about business than anybody has ever taught me
about business. But what she also taught me was wake
up at four o'clock in the morning and go to
bed at four o'clock in the morning, which means you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Don't stop, right.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And she taught me to work with the man, work
with the man, work with the business, work with corporate
American and all that, and so that was ingrained in me. Yeah,
when I first when I was really my business was
first starting to take off. And it's just it's been
something that on I do not not think about her
every single day of my life, good bat or ugly.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, And that type of behavior is really outwardly rewarded.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Everybody looks, of course at you, like, oh my god,
she's so efficient, she's so powerful, she's.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So Yeah, because I had to do like twenty five
lines of blow in the bathroom to get through the day, right, legitimately,
at all the conferences that everybody was trying to stay
up to keep up with everybody, like that is insane behavior.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It is insane behavior. But yeah, but we reward it
all the time, all the time. Yeah, so it's no
wonder that people get stressed, especially if they're not operating
at that level, or even if they are operating at
that level, we feel pressure that we have to do that,
and when we're there, then we don't have balance. Like
it's just a crazy place to be.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's a crazy place to be. So how can we
heal with tapping?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I know we're going to talk about chakras as
part of the healing map because we, like I mentioned
in the opening, we've talked about tapping only with Lauren Faunville,
which I just love or she's just the sweet pie
on the planet.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I just adore her.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
But we haven't talked about the chakra part of this
healing within tapping, and so I would like to add
that into this conversation. So we can we talk about
that and then also after that, I kind of want
you to be the host. Okay, I'm turning it over
to you because I know that we've got some interesting
guinea pig stuff coming up with me, so you we do.
I'm going to have you guide some of this conversation here.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, I'd be happy to. So starting with the chakras.
I love using the chakras as a map to figure
out what it is that we are holding in our
bodies and in general, because we have not been taught
how to really move through our emotions in a healthy way.
(11:15):
So in general, when something traumatic happens to us, or
when we have really big, uncomfortable emotions, we have not
been taught how to deal with them properly. We've been
told to shove them away, deny them, pretend that don't exist,
make yourself busy so that we don't actually have to
feel any of the really uncomfortable stuff that is in
(11:38):
our body.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, I'm the queen of that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So when I'm looking at a new client, I want
to know where their pain is, where they're experiencing it
in their body, because that's going to tell me which
chakra is most affected. But also it'll tell me if
they're experiencing tremendous guilt around it, if they're experiencing tremendous
shame around it. Because everybody has the trauma that's always
(12:05):
going to be housed in the first chakra, and that's always, always,
always where we should start our work, and that's root,
that's root chakra. Yeah, down, sitting down on your pulvis babies.
That's where it's at.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's where we're sitting in it all day to presume
and the root cause of it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So we have to start there.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
We have to start there because if we start anywhere else,
everybody wants to work on, like the heart chakra because
you know there's love there, or they want to work
on the crown chakra because spirituality, you know that whole thing.
You don't start with the root, you're going to have
a shaky foundation for the rest of your life and
everything else that you do above that is not going
(12:47):
to be as strong as it ever could be. Is
if you create your strong foundation first.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, it's like building a house on sand exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So we have to start at the very root of
the problem. So that's where trauma is housed. It's in
the first chakra, and that will affect the hips and
the knees and the feet and in general the spine,
but also bigger systems in our body like our skin
and our muscles and our lymph and you know stuff.
(13:19):
Fertility more second chakra issue, but it will start with
the first. You can't go you can't go first. Reproductive
stuff is more a second chakra and because the first
whenever the first chakra gets out of balance, it's gonna
I don't know if I can swear it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
You can sucking swear on this.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's going to suck up everything else. You can't have
a solid building on a shaky foundation. You can't. So
it's going to be tilted or it's going to be broken.
Like so, it makes sense that other things happen along
the way, like the second chakra or the third chakra,
where you would have like problems with digestion, people that
have crones or you know, diverticulitis or something along those lines.
(14:05):
That's definitely third chakra. But again, the source of it
is the route, so you have to start there. But
once you, honestly, once you take care of the first, second,
and third chakra, most of it will kind of align
after that. Those are the areas that we need to
focus all of our effort.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So how do you when we're talking about chakras in
regards to tapping, how does that work? Because I know
you're talking about tapping on the Murdian It's like you
wouldn't acupuncture as you would when we're talking about chakra
work and all of that so how do we start
working with tapping in chakras.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, we're not working on the chakras directly. It's like
having a map, but then you're driving a car.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Okay, all right, that's a good analogy.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, so you're using the chakras as information about where
you need to drive the car. And what we know.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
About about the chakras is that they like to.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Be in balance. They like to be in balance between
power and vulnerability, and a lot of us will be
really heavy in one or the other and not have
balance there. But I'm kind of going off on a tangent,
but getting back to what really is important is starting
(15:22):
with the trauma. The trauma is what created the shaky
foundation in the first place. So working through the trauma
itself is step number one. And I never ever recommend
somebody use something like an app to work through their trauma.
Trauma is so individualized and it is such a sensitive
thing to work on that it really needs to be
(15:44):
with a trained tapping professional or a trained therapist of
some kind, if hopefully they do tapping, because this is
so much faster, and because we're telling our amygdala to
de escalate the entire time and it's okay to feel calm.
This it creates a really safe place to experience the
(16:05):
trauma again. Okay, Right, So there's a lot of extreme
emotions around trauma, and sometimes it's so hard for people
to even think about going there that we'll start with
it in a vault like down on the other side
of the city, and the client is the only one
that has the combo or the key, so it is
(16:26):
their choice one thousand percent, and just the awareness of
it on the other side of the city can bring
your intensity level up to a ten. Sure, So yeah,
we start with it over there, and we're not engaging
at all. We're just tapping it down to zero. And
then we'll bring it a little closer and then tap
that down to zero, and then maybe we open the door,
(16:47):
but we're still not engaging. And then only when it
feels safe do we start engaging. And there's going to
be multiple points along the timeline of that event, or
multiple events that a decision was made that I need
to feel guilty, ashamed, or I regret this decision, and
(17:08):
each one of those decisions needs to be neutralized in
order for the trauma to be neutralized. Now, once that
is done, now you can really get started on the.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Nitty gritty.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I know, yeah, because all of that just sounded a
little scary on that roadmap, because my roadmap is riddled
with crazy fear stuff. Oh I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh my god. We watched The Great Gatsby. We watched
both the Robert Redford the other night, and we watched
the Leo DiCaprio version of it again. I haven't watched it,
and so in god, dang is he adorable? He's fifty?
He's fifty, guys, can you believe it? What the hell
happened to Leo? But he doesn't date anybody under twenty seven,
(17:51):
so we're all screwed. But anyways, there was this scene
where they're like driving all frantically with in his yellow
coop and it's just all over the map, and it
just makes me running away from fear, they're running away
from being scared, and they're running and they're running there
can't and they end up killing somebody, and it's just that,
like that that constant feeling of like we're driving away
(18:13):
from it, we're running away from our fear, and we're
going to fix it. And then what do we do?
We blindside and we kill somebody else with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I know.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
That's the hard work of it, that's the hard to
do it. Yeah, And we hurt other people. We hurt people,
hurt people, right, And I don't want to do it.
I know that I have and I don't want to
do it again. Yeah, But I know that trauma, our
own trauma.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
We don't even know how we affect other people by
our behaviors. Like I even opened up about, you know,
talking about our behaviors. I don't want to affect me,
but I also certainly don't want to affect other people.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
We can't help it. We're humans, I know. And our
fears are kind of all over the place, you know.
So there's the trauma, but then the trauma creates the fears,
and it's all of those it's all of those decisions
along the way that create the fears like I'm not
good enough, or I don't belong or my body is
(19:13):
a dangerous place or you know, something along those lines,
like there's found Those are what I call foundational fears.
So we move from the trauma to the foundational fears,
and that is the shadow all of the fears are
the shadow and the first chakra. So you move through
all of those shadows, you neutralize all of those shadows,
(19:34):
and then your first chakra will be in balance, and
then you can go up to the second chakra. The
second chakra shadow is guilt. And whatever you feel guilty about.
You feel guilty in your relationship, you feel guilty about
what you did or didn't do with a friend, or
at work, or you know, whatever it is. How you
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are sexually, how you are financially, how you are creatively, like,
all of those things are in your second chakra, and
those all have to be in balance between power and vulnerability.
I don't know many people that have struck a great
balance with that, but it takes working through the shadow
of guilt in that area in order to strike the balance.
(20:18):
We call that the Jewish skuilt Olympics here in this household.
Uh huh, I like it.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I will not take I will not take ownership of
that line. And I know my therapist actually listens to
the soso. I may the Jewish skilt Olympics that you
should trademarket because it's true.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It's like it's live and kicking care in our household.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
But yeah, I have came from a very right wing
Christian home, and it was shame, shame, shame, shame, where
it was guilt, guilt, guilt. I mean, you get it
from all these places. And I don't necessarily blame so
much the fact that that came from my parents side
of things. I Mean, there's an element that I'm still
trying to deal with. But they only learned from what
(21:01):
they learned from, and that you know, and goes on
and on and on, and they didn't have the tools
that we had. I mean when we were kids, you know,
we weard the same age and it was like, well, all.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Right, good luck with that. We'll see you at the
end of the night, y'all. Hope you're doing good.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, I mean, we're just definitely a product of our environment, right, yeah,
So whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They believed, we kind of just we inherited.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, that's what it is moving forward, and until we decide,
oh my god, that was their stuff. They didn't do
their work, and they didn't recognize that they had a
choice in this, and here I am now I have
a choice. And and while it wasn't my choice to
come in with this, it is now my burden to
deal with it. Because they never did.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
So we have an exit strategy, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And now and there's way more willingness now to look
at it and to get curious about it and unravel
it a little bit and then hopefully we have the
courage to lean in and actually do the work to
get rid of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And I mean there's so many emotional layers that are
part of chronic pain and chronic illness and were always
we're hung up, like you said earlier, about how there's
all these physical symptoms that we have, right, yes, and
I think you had mentioned they're really just physical.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I think they're intertwined completely.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Absolutely, and I agree with that, and I didn't It's
not that I didn't understand that I wasn't interested in
and I'm sorry for saying this, but the wu wu
versus the medical side, but it is. I mean, it
is what it is, even though I one percent believe
in more of the wu Wu than I do medical
because medical is do nothing but fail me.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But man, oh man, I'm telling you, when I start
thinking about physical symptoms and how I did a reiki
session the other day, nice and it was I was
just laying in my bed.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Nobody was physically here with me, and it was a
thousand people around the world that we're doing it at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And I walked the next day farther than I've walked
in eight years.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You can't argue with that, right, I can't. I can't
argue with it because nothing else has been able to
make me do that.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I have no idea. And I texted my little Reiki
girl and she's like, not little Reiki girl, Jennifer, You're
not a little Regki girl. She's amazing, But oh my god,
it was like, what did you do to me? In
thirty minutes?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Like I just it was insane and I felt so
much more.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I felt light, and I felt more free, and I
felt and whether I have no idea, but I believe
in all of it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So when we're talking about these emotional layers and we're
talking about tapping through these different chakras that you just
were speaking about, Yes, now what do we do?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Are you going to make me tap? Right now?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I would love to take you through a tapping session?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Goodness, all right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
We're not going to go super deep. We're not going
to we're not going to do anything to traumatize.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
You are traumatize my audience, they're already traumatized just having
me as as.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But we are going to focus on general anxiety and overwhelm.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Okay not somebody knows that I'm overwhelmed, and.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
That's that's the majority of us.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Anyway, this will be helpful for everybody here.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yes, yes, so Lindsay and I did have a conversation
before we got we started recording, and so I know
some of the details of her stress and I'm going
to focus a little bit more intimately on those. But
I'm also going to be saying some general statements that
everybody can gain something from while doing the tapping. Hopefully
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you'll all be tapping along with us at home.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Oh my god, this is so fun.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And if some of the some of the words don't
resonate with you, just change them. You're at home, you know,
you can say whatever you want to say. Focus in
on what it is that feels stressful for you right
now in your life, and that's what you tap on.
And this is just meant to be a really easy
guide for how to do this kind of work at home.
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Should I be nervous, No, not at all. By anxiety
to speaking, because you're going to feel way better afterwards.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Okay, let's tap that, Let's tap it out, Let's tap that.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay. So I do want to go over the tapping
points really quick, because I know that many different practitioners
use many different points. None of them are wrong, they're
just different. And this is the way that I learned.
No studies have been done about which ones are more effective,
or you know, anything along.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Those lists, the order of them or anything.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Nope, Nope, it all works. So we're going to start
on the karate chop point, which is just down from
our pinky finger on the fleshy side of our of
our hand. Okay, we're going to tap those two spots together.
That's called the karate chop point. And this is where
we're going to say some like an even those statement.
We're going to say it three times while we tap
on the spot. And then we're going to move to
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what's called repeater phrases and we're going to I'm going
to go through the other points on those. So the
first point is at the beginning of our eyebrows, okay.
And it's really important to be accurate with where you're
tapping because if you're tapping somewhere in the middle of
your forehead, not nearly ill effective.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, stay right these random people tapping their foreheads in
the supermarket. I'm taking my glasses off because I can't
do it without my eye me neither.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So right at the beginning of the forehead. Next one
is that the side of your eye, it's your temple.
And then under your eye, right on top of your cheekbones.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Does that hap with under eyebags, I don't think, And.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Then under your nose, under your mouth, and then the
collarbone point. If you find the beginning of your collarbone,
you're going to go down about an inch. There's a
little valley in between your ribs and your collarbone on
either side of your sturnum. That's spot. And then under
your arms for women, it's right where your brasstrup would be.
For men, it's like three to four inches down from
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your armpit, all right. And then the next one is
on your ribs, just below your breasts, and then the
next spot is on your wrist. There's three different acupressure points,
ones on the outside one and then then a middle
and then the outside. So when I'm tapping my wrist together.
I'm turning them a little bit, or you can kind
of hit them with your fingertips like this, Try and
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hit all three spots, okay. And then the last pot
point is up on top of your head. And while
we go through those tapping points, there might be one
that feels better than the others. And even though I
keep moving around to the different tapping points, if it
feels better to stay there, just stay there. It doesn't
matter if you're off from where I'm tapping at them
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at the moment, it doesn't matter at all, Okay, Okay,
So you're just going to repeat after me. You're going
to tap where I tap and say what I say.
But first we're going to take a rating. And I
would love for you to tell me, lindsay where you
are on a scale from zero to ten with your
stress and overwhelm right now, Right now, I would say
I'm out of six, okay. And do you feel that
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stress somewhere in your body right now?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
In my elbows, my wrists, always, in my feet, and
in my pelvic area.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
What does it feel like it's always burning?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Or achy? Like oh my god, like like heavy mm hmm,
super heavy Okay. Like I'm carrying the the world on me.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Yeah, okay, surprise, surprise. But it's a it's a pain,
right yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pain. Pak Okay, sharp shooting stuff.
It's hard to say like right now because it's just constant. So,
but I get the sharp shooting from that goes up
all through my arms. Is it carple tunnel?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
And my arms is a totally different pain than what
it's sensation. I like to use the word sensation instead
of pain. I've been trying to work on it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Then what I have for my hips down, my hips
down is burning, just burning, like I'm on fire. I
always say, like I'm out of Salem witch trial and
I'm the one that lost.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Okay, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, that's intense okay, and that's at a six right now.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Mm hmmm, which is good for me.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
God, how do you even manage?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Because that's what I do?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, okay, okay, let's start tapping on your karate chop
point now, Okay, karate chopping. Even though I am so
stressed right now.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Even though I am so stressed right now and.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Completely overwhelmed with everything that's happening around me.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And completely overwhelmed with everything that's happening around me.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It all feels like too much. It all feels like
too much, and it feels like the weight of the
world is on my shoulders. And it feels like the
weight of the world is on my shoulders. And I
deeply honor all my thoughts and feelings about that.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
In A deeply honor all of my thoughts and feelings around.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That, even though I am so stressed and overwhelmed right now.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Even though I'm so stressed and overwhelmed right.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Now, and it's manifesting as this intense pain in my body.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
And it's manifesting as this intense pain in my body.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
This burning and aching and heavy pain, this burning and
aching and heavy pain, and I'm just meant to continue
through all of it. I'm just meant to continue through
all of it. I can't stop, I can't stop. I
just have to keep going.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I just have to keep going.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
At least that's what I tell myself.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
At least that's what I tell myself.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And I deeply honor all parts of who I am anyway,
and I deeply honor all of the parts in me
all the way, even though I am so stressed and
overwhelmed right now, even though I am so stressed and
over right now, between the house remodel and the changes
in my relationship, I am overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Between the all of the things that you just said,
I am overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And it's no wonder.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It's no wonder.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's too much for one person. It's too much for
one person, and I don't know how to stop, and
I don't know how to stop. And I keep adding
more on and I keep adding more on, and I
don't know how I'm going to get myself out of this.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
And I don't know how I'm going to get myself
out of this, and it doesn't feel safe, and it
doesn't feel safe.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And I love and honor myself anyway, and I.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Love and honor myself anyway, and.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I honor my courage and tackling this issue.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
And I honor my courage and tackling this issue.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Okay, now we're going to start tapping on your eyebrow, Pine.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Okay, I'm some tears for a moment.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm so stressed and overwhelmed right now.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I'm so stressed and overwhelmed right now, and it's no wonder,
and it's no wonder.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I have a million things going on around me.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I have a million things going on around me, and.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
It feels like everybody's relying on me.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And it feels like everyone is relying on me for
whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Nobody else can get it done. For whatever reason, nobody
else can get it done. Nobody else has the answers
that I do.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Nobody else has the answers, but I do.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
And I just want to honor how hard that is.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
And I just want to honor how hard that is.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I have a lot going on right now. I have
a lot going on right now, taking care of the house,
taking care of the house, taking care of all the contractors,
taking care of all of the contractors, taking care of
moving and organizing everything, taking care of moving and organized
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in everything, taking care of my husband, taking care of
my sweetie. And it's all too much, and it's all
too much. It's too much for me.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
It's too much for me.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I want to be able to handle it all.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I want to be able to handle it all.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
This is normally my comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Uh, this is normally my comfort zone. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I like organizing.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I do like organizing.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I like getting things done.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I like getting things done. And it reached a threshold
somewhere along the way, and it reached the threshold somewhere
along the way, and I'm having a real hard time
finding peace around any of it anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And I'm having a real hard time finding peace around
it anymore. And I just want to honor how hard
that is. And I just want to honor how hard
it is. All this stress in my body, all the
stress in my body, it's creating this really intense pain. Yes,
it is creating this really intense pain, especially in my
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wrists and my feet, in pelvis, especially in my wrists
and my feet and my pelvis and my elbows, well both.
It's a burning, aching pain and it's horrible.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It's a burning, aching pain, and it's horrible, and.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's too much for me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's too much for me.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
But I can't stop.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
But I can't stop, even with the pain.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I just try to keep going, even.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
With the pain.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I keep going, fighting on a stick. I keep going constantly,
I keep going constantly.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I'm afraid to stop.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'm afraid to stop.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
There's a part of me that's afraid to slow down.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I am afraid to slow down.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Everything's going to catch up to me if I slow down.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Everything's going to catch up to me if I slow down.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And then I'm gonna feel it all.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And then I'm gonna feel it all.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
And I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I don't want to. It's too scary, it's way too scary.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
It's too uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
It's too uncomfortable, and I.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Don't want to, and I don't want to. I don't
want to slow down.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I don't want to slow down.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I don't want everything to catch up with me.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I don't want everything to catch up with me.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It'll be like a tidal wave. It'll be like a
tidal wave. And it doesn't feel safe, and it doesn't
feel safe. It doesn't feel safe to stop.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
It doesn't feel safe to stop.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I have to keep running.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I have to keep running.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
And I deeply honor that there's this part of me
that doesn't feel safe.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
And I deeply honor a part of me that doesn't
feel safe.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But doesn't want to face all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
That doesn't want to face all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
It's too hard. It's too hard, it's too painful, it's
too painful. And there's a part of me that is
triggered by it constantly, And.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
There's a part of me that's triggered by it constantly.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So it's no wonder I feel so stressed all the time.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
So it's no wonder that I feel stressed all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I feel this stress and overwhelm all the time.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I feel the stress and overwhelmed all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
That's why I don't let myself sleep.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
That's why why I don't let myself sleep.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And I never let myself slow down.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
And I never let myself slow down.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I'm running, I'm running, and it's okay.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
And it's okay.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
And I deeply honor all my thoughts and feelings about this.
And I deeply honor all of my thoughts and feelings
about this. All this fear in my body, all this
fear in my body, it's there for a reason. It's
there for a reason. There's parts of me that have
been really hurt in my past. There are parts of
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me that have been really hurt in my past, and
I don't want to face it.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
And I don't want to face it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
It's too painful.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It's too painful, and it doesn't feel safe to go there.
It doesn't feel safe to go there.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
And I just want to tell my adult self that
it's okay.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And I just want to tell my adult self that.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It's okay that I am safe in this moment.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I am safe in this moment.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
All the things from my past can't get me anymore.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
All the things for my past can't get me anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
They're not here with me.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
They're not here with me.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
It's okay to feel safe and calm in this moment.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
It's okay to feel safe and calm in this moment.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And I deeply honor my curve ridge and tackling this issue.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And I deeply honor my courage and tackling this moment.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay, take a nice deep breath, Okay, Lindsey, keeping your
eyes closed. I just want you to try and sink
down into your body a little bit and tell me
what came up for you while we were tapping, and
where you are zero to ten with anxiety level right now.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Anxiety Honestly, I don't even know it's I kind of
feel like I'm not sure if it roses or if
it made it lower, because everything's super tingly right now,
and so when I'm tingly, it kind of makes you
feel a little anxious because I'm like, oh, it's like
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my spidy sense.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, So how do you feel though right now?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Kind of light light Okay, I would say light, not
in my head. So my hips are heavy as hell, yeah,
but the rest of my my arms feel kind of floaty.
My stomach doesn't feel I always have digestive issues, Like
I'm just sitting here normally grueling all day long, and
that seems to kind of subsided a bit.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, but I feel very heavy in my legs.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, Well, that we know that, we know that that's
that's trauma, and that's that's deeper work. Definitely that needs
to be done.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I mean, weren't going to just clear me of all
of my issues right now on this on this episode today.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
A little ten minute tappane script.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I wish ten minute taparo.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, I charge like three million dollars if you would
fix that in ten minutes one minute.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Miracles happened here yours. We got a yacht for you.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But complex trauma is a little bit, a little bit
more challenging.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
That's so interesting and it and it it's awkward.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
It's a little awkward to like try to do it,
especially because I'm doing it and people are listening outside
of you. So I had to like put that bus
to the curb, you know, and be like, all right,
maybe it's just me and Amy, you know, nobody, maybe
nobody's listening to this episode. I certainly hope that is
not the case, but it just it felt, uh well,
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you make me feel safe, so that's a huge part
of it with me with safety issues.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
So I'm so glad and being able to do that
and do it on the show is new.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
The first time I've legitimately done anything totally getting PEG
on the show, So congratulations to you.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Wonderful an evens up with the wind thunk it. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Okay, I kind of feel like you need to take
a nap that, yes, and that is not unusual, no,
but I do I feel I definitely I feel heavy
in some places and I feel light in others. And
what we did really was just put a band aid, yeah,
over an issue, because we didn't fix anything, but we
did tell your nervous system that it's okay to feel.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Really okay, calm down, okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
My my other girlfriend, who I've you know, well, I
call her my girlfriend because I'm at her doing this show.
But she's such a love and she She's like, we
would just like randomly be talking. She's just like tapping
her chin, just like tapping. I'm like, what are you
She's like, she doesn't even know she's doing it.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
So I started saying, all right, so when I go
out and about and I'm feeling anxious because I don't
necessarily love being around a bunch of people like ew,
it has to be around a bunch of people.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
That sounds horrible. And so I like leaned on her
for a little bit of that. I was like, all right,
I'm just going to start like randomly tapping my chin
and see if it helped. And it legitimately helped with
my anxiety.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
It just tapping on my chin and my collar bone,
like right underneath my collarbones helps me with anxiety.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Just one little trick that she showed me. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah. Yeah, if it's so good, removing cortisol from your body,
that's the stress hormone. You take that away and your
body just naturally relaxes.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, I love it. Well, this has been amaze balls.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I mean, there's so much more obviously that we can
talk about in regards to this, but adding this session
into it has been something that we've never done. And
I hope that those of you who are listening, certainly,
I hope that you weren't doing this while you're driving perhaps, But.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
You know, take a beat, everybody, take a beat.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
We run so hard and so fast, and we forget
to take care of ourselves in the midst of all
of that. I am the first one to say that
I am the one that does that. So I'm speaking
to myself always first when I give any kind of
advice on this show.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
But man, we got to find you. So how do
we find you?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You can go to sorewithtapping dot com. You can look
in the app either the Google or Apple app stores
Sore with tapping on also social media sor with tapping,
you can find me any one of those places.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I love it so very much. We'll put this all
in show notes obviously, and in social and email marketing,
all the things, but Sore with tapping dot com and
then it can lead you to all the places. Insta
of course is my go to place. Sore with tapping
of course.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Is there anything that you'd like to leave us with
before we tap out of here? Just the idea that
you know, we've we've put a lot of emphasis on
our spiritual selves and on our physical selves and our
intellectual selves, and it's really is time to put some
emphasis on the emotional part. So it's going to be
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uncomfortable at first, but the more you do it, the
easier it gets, and the more you are able to
move through uncomfortable emotions and you get to the other side.
Oh man, that is a beautiful, beauty feeling. I've been
through it many times now, and I am hooked. I
am addicted. I want to work through all of my
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stuff so I can get to the other side. So
I encourage everybody to try it.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
It's certainly worth the work.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I mean, it stinks that we have to like work
so much in life that trauma has hit us. Emotions
hit us, life hits us hard.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Man.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
I watch True Crime every night of my life, and
I wake up every morning grateful. The reason why my
twisted mind watches it at night every night before I
go to bed. I don't know why I do it,
but I feel like every morning I wake up more grateful.
But man, this has been incredible. Thank you so much
for your time with us today. It has been nothing
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but incredible. I've had a blast talking with you, Lindsay,
thank you for having me great, Thank.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
You so much.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
All right, well, you can find this little cutie Patuiti
Sore with tapping dot com. You can find her on
all the socials, insta YouTube LinkedIn TikTok. But thank you
so so much for being here today. Yeah, thank you amazing.
You are exclusively invited.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
To share this soaring with Tapping vip pain journey together.
Let's get to the heart of how to deal with
you by my and Amy's side. Please follow the Pain
Game Podcast wherever you digest your podcast content, we will
be there. Visit us at the Pain gamepodcast dot com
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Speaker 3 (45:25):
Thanks for listening to my little VIPs. Catch you on
the other side.
This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about
the game of living in and with chronic pain and trauma.
Get into the heart of how to heal. I am
your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan on
discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, holistic practitioners, loved ones,
and anybody that is interested in having their voice.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Heard in the chronic pain and trauma world that we
live in.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh my goodness, human behavior. What in the world drives
the motivations behind our behaviors?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And I am the queen of behavioral issues.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Like straight up, it started really young, the acting out,
acting up behaviors, if you will. And I'm not really
sure where the rebellion stems from. Where did my seeking
out alternatives to making me feel better come from? Where
did this mountain of anxiety stem from that I live
(01:13):
with on the daily?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But on this show, we are seekers, right, we're here.
I am here seeking for me, I am seeking for.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
You, and I don't know about you, but I'm sick
and tired of masking my emotions. I'm sick of masking
my symptoms. I'm sick of masking my feelings. I want resolve,
I want resolve to this. I want resolved to the
hidden emotional and energetic blocks that have gone unnoticed. And
(01:42):
now I have been like starting to slow that slow boil, right.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
When you're boiling your noodles and you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Get that little bubble and then all of a sudden,
your pan explodes and you're like, crap, I forgot about it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
My bread's in the oven.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
All of that and all that boiling up has turned
into illness, chronic pain, quite frankly, massive, irritability, anger, resentment,
name it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So what can we do to transform this? How can
we truly alter our lives?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Are you ready, guys, for daring and courageous approach to
healing and end the emotional struggle?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I shore am, And so today.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
We are going to tap into the effectiveness of well tapping.
And I know we have talked about tapping on the
show before, but this is a completely different approach, even
though they use the same technique.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So I want to get into it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So today we're going to talk about how chakras can
be a map and guidance system to code physical symptoms
within our bodies, how to tap through fear and distrust
within our bods, how we can tap dance all over,
treatment from our doctors and lack of support and so
much more.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So, without further ado, I would like to introduce you
to my guest today, my beautiful and amazing, amazing Amy Vinsa.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hi, baby, Hi, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Oh my gosh, it's so great to have you here.
I'm gonna tap, I'm gonna tap you in here.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
She is a tapping coach, healing advocate, and founder of
the Sore with Tapping app, which is amaze balls. With
over twenty years in wellness and sixteen plus years specializing
in emotional freedom techniques, that's ef t Aka tapping guys,
Amy has helped countless people release trauma, pain and limiting beliefs.
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Amy believes healing is possible, and so do I. And
often it starts spread at your fingertips. So for those
of you who do not know what tapping is, because
there are I mean, we've got I'm going to assume
that every listener on this show is listening to every
episode from one until today.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Which would be amazing if you have.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But if you are new here, can you just give
a little intro about what tapping actually is.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So tapping is a combo of three different modalities, and
I think that's what makes it so powerful. So firstly,
it is energy therapy. It's just like acupuncture, and that
it utilizes the fourteen energy meridians found in Chinese medicine.
Instead of needles. Obviously, we're using the percussion of tapping
on our acupressure points in order to facilitate healing. There's
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also the cognitive therapy aspect, where you are actively talking
about what it is you want to release and which
is a huge, huge thing, bigal to actually get it
out of your body. But then there's also the somatic
therapy element because when you're tapping on your body, you
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can't help but kind of gather your energy back from
the past, gather your energy back from worrying about the future,
and then really get yourself grounded in the present moment
where most of the time everything is actually okay. So
you're doing all these three things at lunch, which are
really powerful combo. But what's happening on a scientific level
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is that you know, when we get stressed, the stress
center in our brain gets triggered, that the amigdala gets triggered.
We get into fight or flight mode. Really easily for
most people, it's like twenty four to seven. Now it's
become a really normalized.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
We're always being chased by yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So when we're in that state though, and cortisol is
rushed in our bodies, it's really hard to kind of
get us out of that state. So what tapping does
is that is telling our amigdala over and over and
over again, de escalate, de escalate, de escalate, it's okay
to feel safe and calm in this moment. And it
is taking cortisol out of our body. It's reducing it
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forty three percent faster than if you had done nothing else.
It's lowering our heart rate, it's lowering our blood pressure,
it is increasing our immune system response, and increasing our
happiness levels. It's doing all of those things at once.
So that's why it's so powerful and so fast. It's
really taking that stress response out of the equation. It's
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allowing kind of the nervous system signals to get to
the prefrontal cortex in our brain again, which is where
we can make sound logical decisions.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Are what are sound logical decisions? I'm sorry, I'm usually
this It's like, see, what is that?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Right right, because I would love to do all of
those three things. Sounds logical decisions with sleep combined, yes, yes,
But when you're so stressed out all the time and
the overwhelm is there, it's hard to sleep and make
logical decisions.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Like it sounds logically. You're just like everything feels like
I always tell my sweetie that it feels like my
brain like somebody is scrambling eggs in my brain all day.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
That's what it feels like. It's just a big freaking
scrabbled egg pie up there.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You're triggered twenty four to seven. You've got cortisol in
your body constantly, and that is your normalized state, especially
if you've been in that state for a long period
of time.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's my right, That's all I Know's yeah, that's all
I know. I've been chased by a bear since I
was nine. That's it hard stop.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And there's we have to admit too that society kind
of conditions us to have feel like a little badge
of honor about that too. Like I'm so stressed because
I'm important, you know, and I'm in my business. I'm
doing a really good job, and you know, all those
things and so we we kind of make it okay.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We make it okay, but we are not we normalize.
We're like, this is what. In fact, it's interesting that
you said that. I will call this woman. Her name
is Stephanie.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I won't use her last name, but she When I
first started my marketing agency, it was actually a communications consultancy.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I didn't know what the F I was doing. I
was like, I'm starting my business. I don't know what
it's going to be called.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't know what I'm gonna do, but it's called
Metamorphosis Creations. And I started it and it ended up
being called Meta, and then I turned it hard to
believe that no Meta is Facebook, but whatever it was Meta,
I should have trademarked that then so Zuckerbug could give
me a billion dollars. But I turned Meta into bound
by marketing.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So anyways, long story story, I started that business and
it was like immediately the first thing I did when
I walked in the door and I met this gal, Stephanie.
She made me wait for twelve hours on a couch
waiting to meet her, and I sat there, and I
sat there, and I waited and I waited because I'm
like I'm gonna get this gig. And she taught me
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more stuff about business than anybody has ever taught me
about business. But what she also taught me was wake
up at four o'clock in the morning and go to
bed at four o'clock in the morning, which means you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Don't stop, right.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And she taught me to work with the man, work
with the man, work with the business, work with corporate
American and all that, and so that was ingrained in me. Yeah,
when I first when I was really my business was
first starting to take off. And it's just it's been
something that on I do not not think about her
every single day of my life, good bat or ugly.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, And that type of behavior is really outwardly rewarded.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Everybody looks, of course at you, like, oh my god,
she's so efficient, she's so powerful, she's.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So Yeah, because I had to do like twenty five
lines of blow in the bathroom to get through the day, right, legitimately,
at all the conferences that everybody was trying to stay
up to keep up with everybody, like that is insane behavior.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It is insane behavior. But yeah, but we reward it
all the time, all the time. Yeah, so it's no
wonder that people get stressed, especially if they're not operating
at that level, or even if they are operating at
that level, we feel pressure that we have to do that,
and when we're there, then we don't have balance. Like
it's just a crazy place to be.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's a crazy place to be. So how can we
heal with tapping?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I know we're going to talk about chakras as
part of the healing map because we, like I mentioned
in the opening, we've talked about tapping only with Lauren Faunville,
which I just love or she's just the sweet pie
on the planet.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I just adore her.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
But we haven't talked about the chakra part of this
healing within tapping, and so I would like to add
that into this conversation. So we can we talk about
that and then also after that, I kind of want
you to be the host. Okay, I'm turning it over
to you because I know that we've got some interesting
guinea pig stuff coming up with me, so you we do.
I'm going to have you guide some of this conversation here.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, I'd be happy to. So starting with the chakras.
I love using the chakras as a map to figure
out what it is that we are holding in our
bodies and in general, because we have not been taught
how to really move through our emotions in a healthy way.
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So in general, when something traumatic happens to us, or
when we have really big, uncomfortable emotions, we have not
been taught how to deal with them properly. We've been
told to shove them away, deny them, pretend that don't exist,
make yourself busy so that we don't actually have to
feel any of the really uncomfortable stuff that is in
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our body.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, I'm the queen of that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So when I'm looking at a new client, I want
to know where their pain is, where they're experiencing it
in their body, because that's going to tell me which
chakra is most affected. But also it'll tell me if
they're experiencing tremendous guilt around it, if they're experiencing tremendous
shame around it. Because everybody has the trauma that's always
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going to be housed in the first chakra, and that's always, always,
always where we should start our work, and that's root,
that's root chakra. Yeah, down, sitting down on your pulvis babies.
That's where it's at.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's where we're sitting in it all day to presume
and the root cause of it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So we have to start there.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
We have to start there because if we start anywhere else,
everybody wants to work on, like the heart chakra because
you know there's love there, or they want to work
on the crown chakra because spirituality, you know that whole thing.
You don't start with the root, you're going to have
a shaky foundation for the rest of your life and
everything else that you do above that is not going
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to be as strong as it ever could be. Is
if you create your strong foundation first.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, it's like building a house on sand exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So we have to start at the very root of
the problem. So that's where trauma is housed. It's in
the first chakra, and that will affect the hips and
the knees and the feet and in general the spine,
but also bigger systems in our body like our skin
and our muscles and our lymph and you know stuff.
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Fertility more second chakra issue, but it will start with
the first. You can't go you can't go first. Reproductive
stuff is more a second chakra and because the first
whenever the first chakra gets out of balance, it's gonna
I don't know if I can swear it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
You can sucking swear on this.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's going to suck up everything else. You can't have
a solid building on a shaky foundation. You can't. So
it's going to be tilted or it's going to be broken.
Like so, it makes sense that other things happen along
the way, like the second chakra or the third chakra,
where you would have like problems with digestion, people that
have crones or you know, diverticulitis or something along those lines.
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That's definitely third chakra. But again, the source of it
is the route, so you have to start there. But
once you, honestly, once you take care of the first, second,
and third chakra, most of it will kind of align
after that. Those are the areas that we need to
focus all of our effort.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So how do you when we're talking about chakras in
regards to tapping, how does that work? Because I know
you're talking about tapping on the Murdian It's like you
wouldn't acupuncture as you would when we're talking about chakra
work and all of that so how do we start
working with tapping in chakras.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, we're not working on the chakras directly. It's like
having a map, but then you're driving a car.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Okay, all right, that's a good analogy.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, so you're using the chakras as information about where
you need to drive the car. And what we know.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
About about the chakras is that they like to.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Be in balance. They like to be in balance between
power and vulnerability, and a lot of us will be
really heavy in one or the other and not have
balance there. But I'm kind of going off on a tangent,
but getting back to what really is important is starting
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with the trauma. The trauma is what created the shaky
foundation in the first place. So working through the trauma
itself is step number one. And I never ever recommend
somebody use something like an app to work through their trauma.
Trauma is so individualized and it is such a sensitive
thing to work on that it really needs to be
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with a trained tapping professional or a trained therapist of
some kind, if hopefully they do tapping, because this is
so much faster, and because we're telling our amygdala to
de escalate the entire time and it's okay to feel calm.
This it creates a really safe place to experience the
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trauma again. Okay, Right, So there's a lot of extreme
emotions around trauma, and sometimes it's so hard for people
to even think about going there that we'll start with
it in a vault like down on the other side
of the city, and the client is the only one
that has the combo or the key, so it is
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their choice one thousand percent, and just the awareness of
it on the other side of the city can bring
your intensity level up to a ten. Sure, So yeah,
we start with it over there, and we're not engaging
at all. We're just tapping it down to zero. And
then we'll bring it a little closer and then tap
that down to zero, and then maybe we open the door,
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but we're still not engaging. And then only when it
feels safe do we start engaging. And there's going to
be multiple points along the timeline of that event, or
multiple events that a decision was made that I need
to feel guilty, ashamed, or I regret this decision, and
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each one of those decisions needs to be neutralized in
order for the trauma to be neutralized. Now, once that
is done, now you can really get started on the.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Nitty gritty.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I know, yeah, because all of that just sounded a
little scary on that roadmap, because my roadmap is riddled
with crazy fear stuff. Oh I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh my god. We watched The Great Gatsby. We watched
both the Robert Redford the other night, and we watched
the Leo DiCaprio version of it again. I haven't watched it,
and so in god, dang is he adorable? He's fifty?
He's fifty, guys, can you believe it? What the hell
happened to Leo? But he doesn't date anybody under twenty seven,
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so we're all screwed. But anyways, there was this scene
where they're like driving all frantically with in his yellow
coop and it's just all over the map, and it
just makes me running away from fear, they're running away
from being scared, and they're running and they're running there
can't and they end up killing somebody, and it's just that,
like that that constant feeling of like we're driving away
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from it, we're running away from our fear, and we're
going to fix it. And then what do we do?
We blindside and we kill somebody else with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I know.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
That's the hard work of it, that's the hard to
do it. Yeah, And we hurt other people. We hurt people,
hurt people, right, And I don't want to do it.
I know that I have and I don't want to
do it again. Yeah, But I know that trauma, our
own trauma.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
We don't even know how we affect other people by
our behaviors. Like I even opened up about, you know,
talking about our behaviors. I don't want to affect me,
but I also certainly don't want to affect other people.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
We can't help it. We're humans, I know. And our
fears are kind of all over the place, you know.
So there's the trauma, but then the trauma creates the fears,
and it's all of those it's all of those decisions
along the way that create the fears like I'm not
good enough, or I don't belong or my body is
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a dangerous place or you know, something along those lines,
like there's found Those are what I call foundational fears.
So we move from the trauma to the foundational fears,
and that is the shadow all of the fears are
the shadow and the first chakra. So you move through
all of those shadows, you neutralize all of those shadows,
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and then your first chakra will be in balance, and
then you can go up to the second chakra. The
second chakra shadow is guilt. And whatever you feel guilty about.
You feel guilty in your relationship, you feel guilty about
what you did or didn't do with a friend, or
at work, or you know, whatever it is. How you
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are sexually, how you are financially, how you are creatively, like,
all of those things are in your second chakra, and
those all have to be in balance between power and vulnerability.
I don't know many people that have struck a great
balance with that, but it takes working through the shadow
of guilt in that area in order to strike the balance.
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We call that the Jewish skuilt Olympics here in this household.
Uh huh, I like it.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I will not take I will not take ownership of
that line. And I know my therapist actually listens to
the soso. I may the Jewish skilt Olympics that you
should trademarket because it's true.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It's like it's live and kicking care in our household.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
But yeah, I have came from a very right wing
Christian home, and it was shame, shame, shame, shame, where
it was guilt, guilt, guilt. I mean, you get it
from all these places. And I don't necessarily blame so
much the fact that that came from my parents side
of things. I Mean, there's an element that I'm still
trying to deal with. But they only learned from what
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they learned from, and that you know, and goes on
and on and on, and they didn't have the tools
that we had. I mean when we were kids, you know,
we weard the same age and it was like, well, all.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Right, good luck with that. We'll see you at the
end of the night, y'all. Hope you're doing good.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, I mean, we're just definitely a product of our environment, right, yeah,
So whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They believed, we kind of just we inherited.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, that's what it is moving forward, and until we decide,
oh my god, that was their stuff. They didn't do
their work, and they didn't recognize that they had a
choice in this, and here I am now I have
a choice. And and while it wasn't my choice to
come in with this, it is now my burden to
deal with it. Because they never did.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
So we have an exit strategy, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And now and there's way more willingness now to look
at it and to get curious about it and unravel
it a little bit and then hopefully we have the
courage to lean in and actually do the work to
get rid of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And I mean there's so many emotional layers that are
part of chronic pain and chronic illness and were always
we're hung up, like you said earlier, about how there's
all these physical symptoms that we have, right, yes, and
I think you had mentioned they're really just physical.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I think they're intertwined completely.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Absolutely, and I agree with that, and I didn't It's
not that I didn't understand that I wasn't interested in
and I'm sorry for saying this, but the wu wu
versus the medical side, but it is. I mean, it
is what it is, even though I one percent believe
in more of the wu Wu than I do medical
because medical is do nothing but fail me.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But man, oh man, I'm telling you, when I start
thinking about physical symptoms and how I did a reiki
session the other day, nice and it was I was
just laying in my bed.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Nobody was physically here with me, and it was a
thousand people around the world that we're doing it at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And I walked the next day farther than I've walked
in eight years.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You can't argue with that, right, I can't. I can't
argue with it because nothing else has been able to
make me do that.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I have no idea. And I texted my little Reiki
girl and she's like, not little Reiki girl, Jennifer, You're
not a little Regki girl. She's amazing, But oh my god,
it was like, what did you do to me? In
thirty minutes?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Like I just it was insane and I felt so
much more.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I felt light, and I felt more free, and I
felt and whether I have no idea, but I believe
in all of it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So when we're talking about these emotional layers and we're
talking about tapping through these different chakras that you just
were speaking about, Yes, now what do we do?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Are you going to make me tap? Right now?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I would love to take you through a tapping session?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Goodness, all right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
We're not going to go super deep. We're not going
to we're not going to do anything to traumatize.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
You are traumatize my audience, they're already traumatized just having
me as as.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But we are going to focus on general anxiety and overwhelm.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Okay not somebody knows that I'm overwhelmed, and.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
That's that's the majority of us.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Anyway, this will be helpful for everybody here.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yes, yes, so Lindsay and I did have a conversation
before we got we started recording, and so I know
some of the details of her stress and I'm going
to focus a little bit more intimately on those. But
I'm also going to be saying some general statements that
everybody can gain something from while doing the tapping. Hopefully
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you'll all be tapping along with us at home.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Oh my god, this is so fun.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And if some of the some of the words don't
resonate with you, just change them. You're at home, you know,
you can say whatever you want to say. Focus in
on what it is that feels stressful for you right
now in your life, and that's what you tap on.
And this is just meant to be a really easy
guide for how to do this kind of work at home.
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Should I be nervous, No, not at all. By anxiety
to speaking, because you're going to feel way better afterwards.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Okay, let's tap that, Let's tap it out, Let's tap that.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay. So I do want to go over the tapping
points really quick, because I know that many different practitioners
use many different points. None of them are wrong, they're
just different. And this is the way that I learned.
No studies have been done about which ones are more effective,
or you know, anything along.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Those lists, the order of them or anything.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Nope, Nope, it all works. So we're going to start
on the karate chop point, which is just down from
our pinky finger on the fleshy side of our of
our hand. Okay, we're going to tap those two spots together.
That's called the karate chop point. And this is where
we're going to say some like an even those statement.
We're going to say it three times while we tap
on the spot. And then we're going to move to
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what's called repeater phrases and we're going to I'm going
to go through the other points on those. So the
first point is at the beginning of our eyebrows, okay.
And it's really important to be accurate with where you're
tapping because if you're tapping somewhere in the middle of
your forehead, not nearly ill effective.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, stay right these random people tapping their foreheads in
the supermarket. I'm taking my glasses off because I can't
do it without my eye me neither.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So right at the beginning of the forehead. Next one
is that the side of your eye, it's your temple.
And then under your eye, right on top of your cheekbones.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Does that hap with under eyebags, I don't think, And.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Then under your nose, under your mouth, and then the
collarbone point. If you find the beginning of your collarbone,
you're going to go down about an inch. There's a
little valley in between your ribs and your collarbone on
either side of your sturnum. That's spot. And then under
your arms for women, it's right where your brasstrup would be.
For men, it's like three to four inches down from
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your armpit, all right. And then the next one is
on your ribs, just below your breasts, and then the
next spot is on your wrist. There's three different acupressure points,
ones on the outside one and then then a middle
and then the outside. So when I'm tapping my wrist together.
I'm turning them a little bit, or you can kind
of hit them with your fingertips like this, Try and
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hit all three spots, okay. And then the last pot
point is up on top of your head. And while
we go through those tapping points, there might be one
that feels better than the others. And even though I
keep moving around to the different tapping points, if it
feels better to stay there, just stay there. It doesn't
matter if you're off from where I'm tapping at them
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at the moment, it doesn't matter at all, Okay, Okay,
So you're just going to repeat after me. You're going
to tap where I tap and say what I say.
But first we're going to take a rating. And I
would love for you to tell me, lindsay where you
are on a scale from zero to ten with your
stress and overwhelm right now, Right now, I would say
I'm out of six, okay. And do you feel that
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stress somewhere in your body right now?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
In my elbows, my wrists, always, in my feet, and
in my pelvic area.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
What does it feel like it's always burning?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Or achy? Like oh my god, like like heavy mm hmm,
super heavy Okay. Like I'm carrying the the world on me.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Yeah, okay, surprise, surprise. But it's a it's a pain,
right yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pain. Pak Okay, sharp shooting stuff.
It's hard to say like right now because it's just constant. So,
but I get the sharp shooting from that goes up
all through my arms. Is it carple tunnel?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
And my arms is a totally different pain than what
it's sensation. I like to use the word sensation instead
of pain. I've been trying to work on it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Then what I have for my hips down, my hips
down is burning, just burning, like I'm on fire. I
always say, like I'm out of Salem witch trial and
I'm the one that lost.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Okay, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, that's intense okay, and that's at a six right now.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Mm hmmm, which is good for me.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
God, how do you even manage?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Because that's what I do?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, okay, okay, let's start tapping on your karate chop
point now, Okay, karate chopping. Even though I am so
stressed right now.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Even though I am so stressed right now and.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Completely overwhelmed with everything that's happening around me.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And completely overwhelmed with everything that's happening around me.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It all feels like too much. It all feels like
too much, and it feels like the weight of the
world is on my shoulders. And it feels like the
weight of the world is on my shoulders. And I
deeply honor all my thoughts and feelings about that.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
In A deeply honor all of my thoughts and feelings around.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That, even though I am so stressed and overwhelmed right now.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Even though I'm so stressed and overwhelmed right.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Now, and it's manifesting as this intense pain in my body.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
And it's manifesting as this intense pain in my body.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
This burning and aching and heavy pain, this burning and
aching and heavy pain, and I'm just meant to continue
through all of it. I'm just meant to continue through
all of it. I can't stop, I can't stop. I
just have to keep going.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I just have to keep going.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
At least that's what I tell myself.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
At least that's what I tell myself.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And I deeply honor all parts of who I am anyway,
and I deeply honor all of the parts in me
all the way, even though I am so stressed and
overwhelmed right now, even though I am so stressed and
over right now, between the house remodel and the changes
in my relationship, I am overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Between the all of the things that you just said,
I am overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And it's no wonder.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It's no wonder.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's too much for one person. It's too much for
one person, and I don't know how to stop, and
I don't know how to stop. And I keep adding
more on and I keep adding more on, and I
don't know how I'm going to get myself out of this.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
And I don't know how I'm going to get myself
out of this, and it doesn't feel safe, and it
doesn't feel safe.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And I love and honor myself anyway, and I.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Love and honor myself anyway, and.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I honor my courage and tackling this issue.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
And I honor my courage and tackling this issue.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Okay, now we're going to start tapping on your eyebrow, Pine.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Okay, I'm some tears for a moment.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm so stressed and overwhelmed right now.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I'm so stressed and overwhelmed right now, and it's no wonder,
and it's no wonder.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I have a million things going on around me.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I have a million things going on around me, and.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
It feels like everybody's relying on me.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And it feels like everyone is relying on me for
whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Nobody else can get it done. For whatever reason, nobody
else can get it done. Nobody else has the answers
that I do.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Nobody else has the answers, but I do.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
And I just want to honor how hard that is.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
And I just want to honor how hard that is.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I have a lot going on right now. I have
a lot going on right now, taking care of the house,
taking care of the house, taking care of all the contractors,
taking care of all of the contractors, taking care of
moving and organizing everything, taking care of moving and organized
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in everything, taking care of my husband, taking care of
my sweetie. And it's all too much, and it's all
too much. It's too much for me.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
It's too much for me.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I want to be able to handle it all.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I want to be able to handle it all.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
This is normally my comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Uh, this is normally my comfort zone. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I like organizing.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I do like organizing.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I like getting things done.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I like getting things done. And it reached a threshold
somewhere along the way, and it reached the threshold somewhere
along the way, and I'm having a real hard time
finding peace around any of it anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And I'm having a real hard time finding peace around
it anymore. And I just want to honor how hard
that is. And I just want to honor how hard
it is. All this stress in my body, all the
stress in my body, it's creating this really intense pain. Yes,
it is creating this really intense pain, especially in my
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wrists and my feet, in pelvis, especially in my wrists
and my feet and my pelvis and my elbows, well both.
It's a burning, aching pain and it's horrible.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It's a burning, aching pain, and it's horrible, and.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's too much for me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's too much for me.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
But I can't stop.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
But I can't stop, even with the pain.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I just try to keep going, even.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
With the pain.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I keep going, fighting on a stick. I keep going constantly,
I keep going constantly.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I'm afraid to stop.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'm afraid to stop.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
There's a part of me that's afraid to slow down.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I am afraid to slow down.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Everything's going to catch up to me if I slow down.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Everything's going to catch up to me if I slow down.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And then I'm gonna feel it all.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And then I'm gonna feel it all.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
And I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I don't want to. It's too scary, it's way too scary.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
It's too uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
It's too uncomfortable, and I.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Don't want to, and I don't want to. I don't
want to slow down.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I don't want to slow down.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I don't want everything to catch up with me.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I don't want everything to catch up with me.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It'll be like a tidal wave. It'll be like a
tidal wave. And it doesn't feel safe, and it doesn't
feel safe. It doesn't feel safe to stop.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
It doesn't feel safe to stop.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I have to keep running.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I have to keep running.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
And I deeply honor that there's this part of me
that doesn't feel safe.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
And I deeply honor a part of me that doesn't
feel safe.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But doesn't want to face all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
That doesn't want to face all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
It's too hard. It's too hard, it's too painful, it's
too painful. And there's a part of me that is
triggered by it constantly, And.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
There's a part of me that's triggered by it constantly.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So it's no wonder I feel so stressed all the time.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
So it's no wonder that I feel stressed all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I feel this stress and overwhelm all the time.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I feel the stress and overwhelmed all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
That's why I don't let myself sleep.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
That's why why I don't let myself sleep.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And I never let myself slow down.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
And I never let myself slow down.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I'm running, I'm running, and it's okay.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
And it's okay.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
And I deeply honor all my thoughts and feelings about this.
And I deeply honor all of my thoughts and feelings
about this. All this fear in my body, all this
fear in my body, it's there for a reason. It's
there for a reason. There's parts of me that have
been really hurt in my past. There are parts of
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me that have been really hurt in my past, and
I don't want to face it.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
And I don't want to face it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
It's too painful.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It's too painful, and it doesn't feel safe to go there.
It doesn't feel safe to go there.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
And I just want to tell my adult self that
it's okay.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And I just want to tell my adult self that.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It's okay that I am safe in this moment.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I am safe in this moment.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
All the things from my past can't get me anymore.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
All the things for my past can't get me anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
They're not here with me.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
They're not here with me.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
It's okay to feel safe and calm in this moment.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
It's okay to feel safe and calm in this moment.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And I deeply honor my curve ridge and tackling this issue.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And I deeply honor my courage and tackling this moment.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay, take a nice deep breath, Okay, Lindsey, keeping your
eyes closed. I just want you to try and sink
down into your body a little bit and tell me
what came up for you while we were tapping, and
where you are zero to ten with anxiety level right now.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Anxiety Honestly, I don't even know it's I kind of
feel like I'm not sure if it roses or if
it made it lower, because everything's super tingly right now,
and so when I'm tingly, it kind of makes you
feel a little anxious because I'm like, oh, it's like
(38:50):
my spidy sense.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, So how do you feel though right now?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Kind of light light Okay, I would say light, not
in my head. So my hips are heavy as hell, yeah,
but the rest of my my arms feel kind of floaty.
My stomach doesn't feel I always have digestive issues, Like
I'm just sitting here normally grueling all day long, and
that seems to kind of subsided a bit.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, but I feel very heavy in my legs.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, Well, that we know that, we know that that's
that's trauma, and that's that's deeper work. Definitely that needs
to be done.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I mean, weren't going to just clear me of all
of my issues right now on this on this episode today.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
A little ten minute tappane script.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I wish ten minute taparo.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, I charge like three million dollars if you would
fix that in ten minutes one minute.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Miracles happened here yours. We got a yacht for you.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But complex trauma is a little bit, a little bit
more challenging.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
That's so interesting and it and it it's awkward.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
It's a little awkward to like try to do it,
especially because I'm doing it and people are listening outside
of you. So I had to like put that bus
to the curb, you know, and be like, all right,
maybe it's just me and Amy, you know, nobody, maybe
nobody's listening to this episode. I certainly hope that is
not the case, but it just it felt, uh well,
(40:13):
you make me feel safe, so that's a huge part
of it with me with safety issues.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
So I'm so glad and being able to do that
and do it on the show is new.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
The first time I've legitimately done anything totally getting PEG
on the show, So congratulations to you.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Wonderful an evens up with the wind thunk it. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Okay, I kind of feel like you need to take
a nap that, yes, and that is not unusual, no,
but I do I feel I definitely I feel heavy
in some places and I feel light in others. And
what we did really was just put a band aid, yeah,
over an issue, because we didn't fix anything, but we
did tell your nervous system that it's okay to feel.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Really okay, calm down, okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
My my other girlfriend, who I've you know, well, I
call her my girlfriend because I'm at her doing this show.
But she's such a love and she She's like, we
would just like randomly be talking. She's just like tapping
her chin, just like tapping. I'm like, what are you
She's like, she doesn't even know she's doing it.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
So I started saying, all right, so when I go
out and about and I'm feeling anxious because I don't
necessarily love being around a bunch of people like ew,
it has to be around a bunch of people.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
That sounds horrible. And so I like leaned on her
for a little bit of that. I was like, all right,
I'm just going to start like randomly tapping my chin
and see if it helped. And it legitimately helped with
my anxiety.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
It just tapping on my chin and my collar bone,
like right underneath my collarbones helps me with anxiety.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Just one little trick that she showed me. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah. Yeah, if it's so good, removing cortisol from your body,
that's the stress hormone. You take that away and your
body just naturally relaxes.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, I love it. Well, this has been amaze balls.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I mean, there's so much more obviously that we can
talk about in regards to this, but adding this session
into it has been something that we've never done. And
I hope that those of you who are listening, certainly,
I hope that you weren't doing this while you're driving perhaps, But.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
You know, take a beat, everybody, take a beat.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
We run so hard and so fast, and we forget
to take care of ourselves in the midst of all
of that. I am the first one to say that
I am the one that does that. So I'm speaking
to myself always first when I give any kind of
advice on this show.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
But man, we got to find you. So how do
we find you?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You can go to sorewithtapping dot com. You can look
in the app either the Google or Apple app stores
Sore with tapping on also social media sor with tapping,
you can find me any one of those places.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I love it so very much. We'll put this all
in show notes obviously, and in social and email marketing,
all the things, but Sore with tapping dot com and
then it can lead you to all the places. Insta
of course is my go to place. Sore with tapping
of course.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Is there anything that you'd like to leave us with
before we tap out of here? Just the idea that
you know, we've we've put a lot of emphasis on
our spiritual selves and on our physical selves and our
intellectual selves, and it's really is time to put some
emphasis on the emotional part. So it's going to be
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uncomfortable at first, but the more you do it, the
easier it gets, and the more you are able to
move through uncomfortable emotions and you get to the other side.
Oh man, that is a beautiful, beauty feeling. I've been
through it many times now, and I am hooked. I
am addicted. I want to work through all of my
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stuff so I can get to the other side. So
I encourage everybody to try it.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
It's certainly worth the work.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I mean, it stinks that we have to like work
so much in life that trauma has hit us. Emotions
hit us, life hits us hard.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Man.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
I watch True Crime every night of my life, and
I wake up every morning grateful. The reason why my
twisted mind watches it at night every night before I
go to bed. I don't know why I do it,
but I feel like every morning I wake up more grateful.
But man, this has been incredible. Thank you so much
for your time with us today. It has been nothing
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but incredible. I've had a blast talking with you, Lindsay,
thank you for having me great, Thank.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
You so much.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
All right, well, you can find this little cutie Patuiti
Sore with tapping dot com. You can find her on
all the socials, insta YouTube LinkedIn TikTok. But thank you
so so much for being here today. Yeah, thank you amazing.
You are exclusively invited.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
To share this soaring with Tapping vip pain journey together.
Let's get to the heart of how to deal with
you by my and Amy's side. Please follow the Pain
Game Podcast wherever you digest your podcast content, we will
be there. Visit us at the Pain gamepodcast dot com
and follow us on all the socials.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Thanks for listening to my little VIPs. Catch you on
the other side.
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