November 12, 2025 • 50 mins
On the Nov. 12, 2025, edition of the PodKaz, USCHO.com's weekly look at women's hockey, hosts Nicole Haase and Todd Milewski start with a look back at a 0-0 tie between No. 7 Quinnipiac and No. 11 Clarkson. It was the Golden Knights' second shutout of the weekend; they lost in overtime to Princeton on Friday.
There were a few upsets to note: RIT beat No. 13 Colgate on the road and Bemidji State exited last place in the WCHA with a 2-1 win over No. 14 St. Thomas.
A series between No. 8 UConn and Boston College left each team with a win on the other's home ice, while No. 9 Northeastern stayed at 100% in Hockey East points with two wins over Vermont.
We also reflect on the first two games of the Rivalry Series, 4-1 and 6-1 wins for the U.S. against Canada. Minnesota's Abbey Murphy took her NCAA scoring pace to the international game with a hat trick in the opener.
Then we had some thoughts on Hockey Hall of Fame inductees Jennifer Botterill of Harvard and Brianna Decker of Wisconsin.
A look ahead to this week's games included a home-and-home series between No. 4 Cornell and No. 14 Colgate and two games between rivals Boston College and Boston University.
At the end, we look forward to Nicole's upcoming appearance on "Jeopardy!" Check TV schedules for the Thanksgiving episode.
The PodKaz is a production of USCHO.com. Have a question for us? Reach out to Nicole (@NicoleHaase) or Todd (@ToddMilewski) on social media or email todd.milewski@uscho.com.
There were a few upsets to note: RIT beat No. 13 Colgate on the road and Bemidji State exited last place in the WCHA with a 2-1 win over No. 14 St. Thomas.
A series between No. 8 UConn and Boston College left each team with a win on the other's home ice, while No. 9 Northeastern stayed at 100% in Hockey East points with two wins over Vermont.
We also reflect on the first two games of the Rivalry Series, 4-1 and 6-1 wins for the U.S. against Canada. Minnesota's Abbey Murphy took her NCAA scoring pace to the international game with a hat trick in the opener.
Then we had some thoughts on Hockey Hall of Fame inductees Jennifer Botterill of Harvard and Brianna Decker of Wisconsin.
A look ahead to this week's games included a home-and-home series between No. 4 Cornell and No. 14 Colgate and two games between rivals Boston College and Boston University.
At the end, we look forward to Nicole's upcoming appearance on "Jeopardy!" Check TV schedules for the Thanksgiving episode.
The PodKaz is a production of USCHO.com. Have a question for us? Reach out to Nicole (@NicoleHaase) or Todd (@ToddMilewski) on social media or email todd.milewski@uscho.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Uscho dot com. Hi, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
Todd Moluski here with Nicole Hosey from us cho dot
com to talk about all things women's hockey. This week,
we gotten a little bitter for the Bridalry series to
talk about. We've got some college games to talk about.
We've got a major game show announcement to talk about
(00:28):
with Nicole. We'll get to that. And if that's not
a teaser, I don't know what is. But Nicole, let's
let's start with some of the games from last week.
And one that I know we'd highlighted in last week's show,
Number seven Quidipac and number eleven Clarkson turns out to
be a zero zero tie. On Saturday. Holly Gruber raised
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thirty six hites for Clarkson and Felicia Fray thirty two
says for Quidipiac. Clarkson wins the shootout one nothing but so,
what right? What do we take off of that? I
don't I don't really know what the what the lake
of zero zero tie in a game that we're expecting
to be I mean expecting me a little bit more
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than that. But hooray for the defenses.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I guess, yeah, it's hilarious. You know, sometimes we lament
like a split ended up telling us nothing but goodness,
is there anything that gives us less information than of
a zero zero tie?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, I don't know what to make of it either.
I thought both teams have been so good at scoring.
I mean, yeah, hurry for the uh particularly the Clerkson
defense right like kil and la Marsh has been basically
unstoppable from everybody, so you know, that's a huge win
for them. But yeah, how odd I mean, goodness, I
feel like we don't get a lot of zero zero
times ever, and so yeah, interesting. I mean, those two
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teams playing each other is a bit of a chess
match that usually does again not under a zero zero tie,
but yeah, kind of a strange. I mean, I can't
imagine being a fan there in that game, like you're literally,
you know, spectating a chess match. So yeah, I think
there probably was a lot of desire to not make
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a mistake, to especially you know, as time goes out
in the game and it's still zero zero ties, so
probably just a little bit more careful, a little bit
more precious. And I guess I don't know that I
blame them in November, like nobody wants to.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I think as that game goes along, you're probably thinking,
all right, I'm happy with my point and a half, easy,
easy scoring and and you know, not giving up the advantage.
Quinnipiac seems to be the team to beat and have
the advantage sort of amongst the teams. Maybe you know
them in Cornell and so yeah, it makes me wonder
if there was just like a mindset shift of like,
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we're okay with this, which I think, you know, I
don't I don't love, and I bet coaches probably don't love.
But yeah, I don't know. It's a whole lot of
way of saying, who knows what to take away from that?
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, I think it's it's helpful to rewind a little
bit of Friday with both of those teams too. Quinnipiac
had to get a overtime win over Saint Lawrence three
to two. Kiln Marsh LaMarsh, who would mentioned a minute ago,
scored two of the goals. Tesla Hulk got the overtime goal.
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LaMarsh up to twenty goals of fifteen games, which is
a pretty remarkable number for the first half of the season.
And then on the Clarkson side, Clukson also didn't score
on Friday, lost in overtime to Princeton on a Riley
Sorocan goal. So for both of those teams, I'm thinking,
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you know, you're coming in going, you know, some opposite
directions there. For the Friday, I think Quinnipiac has a
little bit more to feel good about. How the weekend obviously,
I mean, I don't know, that's probably captain obvious they
were talking about Clark's a weekend when they didn't score
a goal, not having a lot to love there. But
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it does feel to me too that we're we're looking
for bigger things out of a still an early part
of the season, when these teams are fully developed. So
I would I would be a little bit more maybe
worried about Clark said if this happened in the second half,
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But I still think there's there's a lot of time there,
There's a lot of skill and experience there too to
make something happened uh down down the rest of the season. Then, man,
let's I just came out of them thinking zero zero, Wow,
that's that just felt but not what I would have
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expected at all out of that game.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, absolutely, I think to so strange just to almost
leave me without anything to say, like, I have no
idea what to make of it. I think, you know,
there's probably the asterisk on it for me will be
to pay attention to how Clarkson does in the next
week or two in terms of scoring like that. It's
a like, okay, it's not a problem till it's a problem, right,
(05:18):
you know, was it an aberration or is it telling
us more about you know, who they are as a
team and what they might be struggling with and so yeah,
and I, like I said, I think their defense absolutely
has to take that as a win, huge weekend for
them to kind of slow down the ball rolling very
quickly down the hill. That is the Bobcats right now
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on offense. And so there is that, But yeah, I
think you have to you gotta score goals, right, like
all this adage in the book. So I think as
a coaching staff, they probably are looking at that and
those are the types of things that they'll be working
on and whether it's you know, finding lianes and stuff
like that, but that I think has to be sort
of the lasting thing is you know, you gotta score
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goals and if that's not happening sort of in repetition,
then then there's something wrong and something you got to
work on. So yeah, put a bookmark on that, come
back to it in a week or two and we'll
see what happens. But yeah, I think surprising too. You know,
Saint Lawrence hasn't had the start of the season they
would have wanted, so a little surprising to me that
they took Quinnipiac to.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Overtime.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Who was Quinnipiac? Great?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Ye, well they all those overtime games, and then you know,
you briefly mentioned good for Princeton. That was Riley Surrikins's
first career goal, so good for her. Good time to
get it. Not sure you'd ever forget that anyway, but
especially in that particular instance. So but yeah, so surprising
that one O and O games for Clerkson this weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
All right, let's spin around the country. They took a
look at what else we took out of last weekend.
I want to start with new Ha asually say an
Selm's swooping post for two form zero to move seven
points ahead of stone Hill after stone Hills split with assumption.
So there's a little bit of separation starting. I think
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all those teams of eight games played, now you're getting
into you know, okay, sample size of games in conference play,
and so maybe we're we're seeing st Ansel kind of
take that that first place, that's starting to run with
it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, and you know the other thing, and that was
way to get that split assumption. I think, you know,
they've had a couple of results that like maybe we're surprising,
but you know, kind of like what I just said,
O cursy, like one or two times is an aberration,
a few times is a trend. And they continue to
win games and and beat teens that like on paper
or like per preseason calculations, they weren't necessarily gonna win.
(07:47):
And so I think they're continuing to put together a
really good season. And I think, uh, that stuff like
that is really gonna be hard on teams like stone Hill, who,
as Saint Anthelm is, is winning those games, like stone
Hill's giving up more point then maybe they would have
thought in some of those series too. So they're they're
really going to have to fight that much harder and
maybe in some tougher matchups that to pull those points back.
(08:10):
But it's if sad Anselm was still is going to
continue to take you know, six points a weekend, that's
gonna be really hard. You know, it's gonna be really
hard to catch them. And seven points isn't a huge gap,
but it's kind of big November, and like, if they
just keep you know, sort of at five hundred, they're
putting theirselves in a really great position.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Clay a non conference upset we saw last weekend RIT
with a three nothing or sorry, three to one road
win against number thirteen Colgate on Saturday. They're so interesting.
We both caught this in the box score. So interesting
parts of that box score RIT twenty one blocks of
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seventy three attempts by Colgate Coldgate zero blocks, which is,
you know, in a close game, what you were saying
before we started recording, doesn't a puck just hit someone
shin pad count as a block. It's a it's an
odd number if that was actually an act your account
of the number of shot blocks there. But a big
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win for RT on the road. There are now seven
to seven overall. Is the team that hasn't had a
winning season since twenty thirteen, fourteen, So I know that's
that's kind of the you know, the bar that that
you look to to get to when you when it's
been such a long time, just get to that point
and see if you can get a winging record. They're
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they're at five hundred on the coldiate, they've lost four
of the last seven. They're five six and one. We've
talked before this is you know, there's some some tough
times there, but maybe a little bit bit of a
concern there. And you know on the RT side, a
big boost out thin GAT non conference play.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And the second ranked win for RT. The y'all so
beat Saint Lawrence earlier in this season. So as you said,
like you look for those little milestones and those things
that you keep getting right. And yeah, as seven wins
for them in November is a huge step. That's like
that's such a great place for them to be and
they have to have so much confidence. And I mean
the thing about the Colgate and the no blocks, it's like, well,
(10:19):
they were at home, so we don't think it was
a scorekeeper error thing, right, like you you went and checked,
you know a couple other things. I Mean, the concerning
thing for me is what Colgate is struggling with is
defense and you are losing a game and you don't
have any blocks, and I am just I mean, I
don't know, like that speaks for itself. There's nothing else
to say there, So it's yeah, it's definitely concerning. It's
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definitely weird. I have a lot of questions. Maybe there
is an explanation, Like it is so weird it is
for me to think it wasn't possible. But yeah, it's
just a it's not a great situation to be in.
And I don't know if this is a thing we are.
I mean, there's just so many there's so many possible explanations.
But I mean Colgate was a really great offensive team
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for so long and had a really strong goalie, and like,
I mean, they are they out of practice playing straw defense,
Like that wasn't a thing they were focusing on. I
don't know, man, it's a I always feel so like
sort of awkward critiquing, especially when we have so much
so little information and we're just I'll watch it on
a stream from far far away. But man, did that
you know? I think there was another game I said this,
(11:26):
weeven had no blocks, but like the opposing team had
nine shots, So like Okay, you know, like this isn't like,
this isn't a thing where it was like, oh, they
just didn't put the puck on it and stuff like that.
Like everything, I kind of double checked all of the
things that would like lead to this, and it just
doesn't seem to be the situation. And so yeah, I
guess if anybody's got the insight, we'd love to hear it.
(11:47):
But yeah, definitely, it's definitely going to continue to be
an uphill climb for Colgate. I mean, they're at the
point where they're almost out of the rankings, and they're
probably mostly there because of the residuals of being there
from the beginning of the year and not really having
anybody to move up. And like, I just at this point,
there isn't anything about their season that isn't disappointing for them.
(12:08):
I don't think this is not what they've come to expect.
It's not what they've created for themselves. And I mean,
the good part is that it's November and they've got
lots of time to make pushes and try and figure
some stuff out.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I'm leaving space for in my own mind the possibility
that that was just a box score glitch altogether, either
on our end or on the Genius side. The Genius
is the company that runs the live stats for sure input,
and so something could have happened there.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I know part of me is like, do we not
even bring it up? And part of me is like,
oh no, you guys, so yeah, I agree. I think
when I wrote about it at Victory Press, I'm like,
I am willing to accept that this might like this
might be not actually true. However, I still pickly need
to bring it up.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yes, over in wha less busy skied Sedule last week
because of the rivalry series and in the November international break.
But BMITCHI s got a win over Saint Thomas over
fourteen Saint Thomas last Saturday, two to one, Caitlyn Gross
with twenty seven Sayers. And that's a BAMIGI team that's
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that struggle to get something going, get positive feelings going
in it. There's a win against the ranked team that
is a you know, okay, first half of your season
may not be going the way you like, but you've
got something there and there's a a little bit to
say if we can do that against the ranked team,
we can do that the next time. We play a
ranked team and wycha that's pretty much every weekend, every week.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, for sure. And I think you know on the
opposite side that is in no offense BMIDGI. But like
Saint Thomas, that's a that's a bad loss. Like you
are a team that has shown you're taking a step forward,
you're trying, you know, you've gotten ranked all but sort
of thing, those are games you have to win, you
just full stop. It's too competitive. The WHA is competitive.
I know that, like because of the top of the WHA,
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they're not necessarily fighting for that spot, but maybe fighting
for other things. But that's just a bad loss. It's
one that you can't have. We talked about not being
not being able to drop points in several other conferences
as well, and yeah, that was just it was one
of those where I think we've been so high on
Saint Thomas and what they've been able to do, and
I think it's one where you're like, you remember that
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this that it's a team that's new to this right
and they're still they're still doing it. Is trying to
figure out what it means to be a rap team
and be sort of have a target on your back
and be not the underdog, and I think that this
is one of those growing pains that comes with that.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But Minjie stay out of last place in the w
CJ with that win too, And did not occur to
me that as we're not looking at the WATU Sundays,
everyone's got the same eight games played. Number ten in
the country, Saint claud State is the last place team.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
If you like that gives that gives power to what
I've said about how hard it is to rank teams.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Right now, terribly hard right now, because you I think
everyone's going on a say claud State is like, Okay,
well we've seen this team as being a mid pack
top fifteen team for a few years now. Well, and
if you're going to take them out, you have to
play some with some one in the top fifteen. And there's
not a ton of teams that are just jumping to
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the forefront there.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
No. And I think they were ranked on the power
of how they were playing against top those top four
or five teams in the country, right But then you
that also means that they have to take the hit
when they're when they're not winning games they should be winning.
So yeah, it's a if you're you know, nobody you
there aren't fifteen teams that have, you know, great winning
records that you want to just like put one to fifteen, like,
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it's just not there's too much parody right now. And
so when that's the case, then you're looking at how
teams are performing against other high ranked teams and yeah,
but the Poles, Poles are a mess. Friends, I don't
know what to tell you. Cannot wait till the MP
until we have enough games at the NP, I can
just tell me what to do.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I think we're getting closer now. Yeah, it's uh, it's
to the point where everyone you know, EC A, C,
the Ivy League teams have all played enough games. I
think they're enough playing enough different teams. So it's not
either you're through one weekend. You you've got two wins
and they both has the same team and we're so
if I think, if you want to start looking go
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for it. I don't. I don't have this from mathematical geniuses,
but I think they would probably tell me that at
this point that it's it's good to take a peek at.
Maybe don't don't spend too much time there, but.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
All right, well, yeah I will not hang my whole,
my full voting on that. But yeah, it's just it's
at the point where I'm like, every week, you're just
like I, I spend more time on it than like
I really I feel should be spent on some of
that stuff, like I do not, but I don't like
not to you flip, but I just like, I don't
think you should be agonizing over like seven, eight to
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nine as much as I have been.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
No, but I agree I do when I vote, I
do in the same thing. It's there's there's too much
into it, But okay. Hockeys. A couple of results I
thought were interesting, A couple splits. Boston College and number
eight Yukon got splits, with each winning on the other
team's hoys. Yukon won three to one on Friday at
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BC t chair made thirty one saves and that one
say hottles, I hope I'm saying that right, hot less hottles.
I apologize for either one that I wrote broke a
one one tie with three and a half minutes left,
and that one. BC came back Saturday with a two
to one win with Eva Thomas breaking a one to
one tie with a redirection in front of it with
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just two seconds left. That was a a play a
shot through the point that just looked like you had
the right amount of traffic in front and and Thomas
got got a stick on it, and there is a
winning goal in the last couple of seconds.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So it's it's like the type of thing you should
show your team when you're saying be a Bucks today.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh yeah, right, I mean, with that amount of time left,
what's what's what's it gonna hurt? Man? So BC getting
an important result there, we'd we'd seen them being near
the at the top at and then near the top
of hockey standing for a while. You know, if if
they're going to keep staying up there, they've got a
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few more games played than than the other teams around them.
They need to add some wins. And yeah, it's it's
the Northeastern's tharting to uh starting to pull away from
a winning percentage or a point percentage perspective. Fifteen points
for five games, so that's one hundred percent. Uh, They're
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they're doing pretty well there. If anyone one is going
to stay up with them, they are going to to
one Eastern, but then also stay up with these other
games like be it pace, Yeah, you can, would have
would have loved to have that those three points out
of that game on set.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I feel like a split is probably a pretty good
result for both those two teams though, Like I think
this is what we talk about when it's like not
settling for a tie and and and you know, really
pushing and getting that extra point that less than three
seconds left and you know, put the puck to net
and see what happens. And I think that getting that
win was really important for DC. They are a team
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that like doesn't always respond when things like start to
go poorly, Like if they have a poor game, I
always want them to go out that next game and
like really show that fire, and I feel like they
don't always do that. And so this was just like
a little bit of that fight that I like to
see from teams when things. You know, you get a loss,
a tight loss, right like that one ended up in
three to one, but it was within the last couple
of minutes and you go out and you on their
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ice and win those points back. So you know, in
the scheme of things against Northeastern, not ideal situation for
either of them, But I thought it showed a lot
of fight from BC side and that bodes well for
the rest of the season for them.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Definitely, Northeastern, as I mentioned, five and zeroe Conference, after
stooping for a month, three to nothing, three to two
at Lisa Johnson with twenty save for the shutout on Friday,
and then Jules Countstantinople power play goal in the second
period gives the Huskies a three to lead and that's
the lead they carried for the rest of the wade.
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This is the Northeastern team. I think we we didn't know, right,
I mean over the last few years, maybe not last year,
but that the season's previous. Got it goalie, that's gonna
win you a lot of games and have an opportunistic offense,
and that's that's that's that's a pretty good combination.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, if you get their box scores,
it's not like they're just going out and dominating. Like
there's been a couple back and forth games and then
when it comes down to it, they pull away at
the end, and that is just such a huge advantage.
And the ability to do that and to sort of
buckle down and put a game out of reach has
been something they've been able to do for the last
couple of years, but something we didn't see in the
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first you know, six weeks or whatever whatever from them.
So yeah, I thought that was like exactly like what
you said. We mean, we've kind of talked about like
who's this Northeastern team in a few episodes, and it
was like they came out this weekend and showed exactly,
you know, sort of who they are and what they
can do. You know, a couple of younger players on
that team and things like that. So maybe it just
took a little while for them to settle and find
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their their rhythm again, you know, never never hanging our
hats on what happens in any two games, right, So
we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
But that was the sort of flash of fight and
talent and scoring and like I said, just that for them,
they're a team that consistently like they'll be in a
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close game. You'll look up and be like, oh, that's
a tie game. I didn't expect that to be tied,
And the next time you look up, they're off by
like three, and it feels like no time has passed.
And so that to me is the standout bit of
what happened this weekend for them.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
We need to take a break here soon. Anything last
I need the last thoughts. We want to get in
about last week before we you know, take a break
and then come back and talk about the Riveler series.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
We've covered at all, well not at all, but you
can come. You can see everything either Nicole's weekend roundups
on usa joe dot com, victor press dot com or
check out the box scores on USA joe dot com,
so all sorts of information there. When we come back,
as I mentioned, we will talk Rivalry here is, we
will talk what's coming up this weekend, and we will
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talk about that mystery game show announcement.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Stay with us on the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast.
Todd Nicole here with you to talk about.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The Rivalry series. Games that we saw last week. A
couple of wins for the US over Canada four to
one in Cleveland on Thursday, six to one in Buffalo
on Saturday. Coupled hat tricks in the Thursday game with
Abby Murphy from Minnesota scoring three and then Taylor I
see the former Gophers scoring one, and then on Saturday
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it was the Wisconsin continues turned to get on the
board as Hillary Knight, the former Badger with a hat
trick and current Wisconsin defender which is Stold. Odd to
say Leyla Edwards with a goal and two assists. This
is you were mentioning before. Not unusual for us to
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see the US get out to a hot start in
a rivalry series. Is there anything that you I guess,
you know, big picture whise a lot of these couple
of games with.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's hard to I think on the surface, I was
really excited about how well Team USA looked and how
well they were moving the puck and just really sharp
and all of those sorts of things. But we have
seen that in pretty much all of the best rivalry
series where they came out in those early games and
looked great and then you know, get River swept on
the other side by Canada. So definitely not putting too
(24:26):
much into it. I thought it was good to see
players like Heizy and Night looking so sharp because that
means it wasn't just the collegians that were sort of
up to speed. I also, I think like that's twofold
one is knowing that the cans and things that the
team USA has been doing, you know, the non centralization
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play this year certainly seems to have those players sort
of maybe more up to speed and up to date
then maybe they would be heading into the PWHL season,
meaning like they would they've spent more time playing at
a higher level, So there is that. I think that's
a good sign. You know, Canada was playing both of
their you know, the goalies. They're arguably third and fourth
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line goalies that were are probably going to be who
they're deciding between for that third spot and their roster.
I thought of Gasco and probably played a little bit better.
I also think Kaylee didn't get a ton of defensive support,
so I don't hold that score line against her. But yeah,
I thought the US. I liked the way the US
was moving the puck. I liked that we were getting
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some of the same lines, and how well they were
working together, like Janickey and Murphy, even the way that
Layla and Taylor Heisie were working with Taylor being Layla
being a defender. Those two seemed to be playing really
well together in some of the past worlds, and so
how how that is working seemed really nice. I thought
Layla looked much better than she did in the Wisconsin
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series we saw her play in before before she left
for this, where she seemed a little tentative still, so
she seemed to be much closer to to sort of
full strength and feeling comfortable, and it was nice to
see her. She had a great goal where she stepped in,
you know, took a puck some awesome one's stick and
took a couple of strides, got into net and put it,
put it lit the lamp.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It was just really sort of confident and smart and
the type of thing that you like to see from
your defender. So that I hope we see Carrie over
more because I don't know that she always plays sort
of that confident, insecure in that role. But yeah, overall,
I thought, you know, Team USA looked really great. They
just they the passing, the I mean Abby Berkeley scored.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
For ber Knees.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It was it was just there were a couple of
just really dirty, really pretty, really nice looking settel plays
from from Team USA. Uh, Taylor, heisie with her fake slapshot.
I think I said this today on Victory Press, but
they're on Tuesday and Victory Press. But if she's adding
sort of a more ruthless part to her game. I
think her opponents in the PWHL and and at the
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Olympics should be a little scared because she's always been
very talented. But it was just it was cold as
ice to do that fake slap shot, drop the pass
and easy goal for hometown girl Haley's kimura in Buffalo.
So yeah, takeaways are you know US was playing with
their lineup as they want it to be. Canada was
it right? Canada left a couple players off the roster,
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are trying to get better looks at some people, and
so I think I think that probably explains a lot
of sort of the disparities that we saw.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And this is just the first half of what this
series will be. The second half. Edmonton, December tenth of thirteen.
So we get away four weeks back in college essentially,
and then everyone goes off for the end of the
first semester US and Canada player we're getting right back
into this, which is not usually the way goes when
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you think about the rivalry series. The second half is
usually just the pro players because college players are really
in the harm their season when they it seems like
they usually do the second half in January or February,
don't they And that's obviously different this year because we're
talking the Olympics more then, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And we've done seven games series before, so it's actually
been three weekends, so it's all a little different. Yeah,
it'll be interesting to see. Presumably in December we will
see much more of that, like the lineups you expect
to see.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, also some international recognition. On Monday, a couple of
former and CVI women's hockey players inducted into the Hockey
Hall of Fame from Canada and from Harvard Jennifer botterrel
and from the US and Wisconsin Brianna Decker. Very fitting
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honors for both of them. They're both heart and soul
members of their college teams and of their international teams.
And that's really what stands out to me about both
of them is that you you knew what you're going
to get from them when they were part of your team,
and it was it was consistent. Was obviously a high
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high level of skill, but also a high level of
for both of them, and so really well deserve for
both of them.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, and for people that haven't been around, you know,
since the beginning, John Borel is a two time Patty
Kas winner. She won in two thousand and one and
two thousand and three. Sort of unusual with that that
you're in between, but she's the only two time winner, right, so.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
The winner as far as I were remembering, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, I would have said that with one hundred percent
certainty until I was saying it to a large group
of people and now I'm second cassing myself. But I
mean also just to me, super interesting too, write like
Barbral one in two thousand and one, in two thousand
and three, Brita Decker won in twenty twelve. Like that's
how sort of separate those are, those two are in age.
And it was interesting too because Brianna Decker is the
first Badger to go into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
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We will I would imagine that, well that she's not
going to be the last to be you know, imagine
Hillary retires, things like that. But it was, yeah, it's
just interesting. I don't think of Brienna, you know again
that sort of decade. You think of Jen from that
like builders group of the first set of NCAA players,
and so just interesting for them to go in at
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the same time. Just kind of made me think about
the difference in how their careers went and where they
sort of ended up. And then also the other person
inducted was daniel Sivigo, the GM at the Montreal Victoire,
the PWHL. Danielle didn't actually was like not allowed to
play as a child, and so she sort of got
involved in other ways, and so I think the sport
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as a whole has a lot to thank her for
and owe her for women's hockey. So I just wanted
to be able to mention her too. Even though she
didn't play in DA school, Danielle has done amazing things
for for women's hockey and paving the way for what's
possible now.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Definitely, massive congratulations through to all of them and every
leagues part of the Class of twenty twenty. Fun. Okay,
take another quick break when we come back, bullet ahead
to this coming weekend, then pending game show news. As
I've seved before, stay with us on the podcast. Welcome
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back to the podcast. Todd Nicole wrapping up this week's
episode with a look at what's coming this week. And
if you're listening to us Wednesday morning, as we hope
you are right away and you're excited about listening to
the podcast right away? Drops Uh A Wednesday morning game
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at Clarkson Saint Lawrence playing the the host Golden Knights.
Don't remember seeing a lot of ten am Eastern time Wednesday. Gay,
it was on the schedule. But if that means hot
he's on TV either in the day on a Wednesday,
(32:03):
I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, I assume it's a it's a school day thing.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I mean this.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I believe they do this because these two are like
twelve miles apart or something like that. They're very close
to each other. But clark it's it's a daytime game.
It's non conference. I assume.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
If you're home as I will be tomorrow, I will
wake up and watch some SMO Clarkson in the St.
Lawrence at nine am local time.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Important too for Clarkson to bosce back. I mean, that's
for sure. If they can get a goal in the
first five minutes, I think there will be a lot
of weight off shoulders there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
When I said that before, I did not realize this
game was happening. So yeah, could what well how to
answer on how their scoring situation is pretty quickly? Actually?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yes, we will I'm Home and Home series and you
see see hockey this week. Number four Cornell and number
fourteen Colgate. We've talked about in the past, earlier in
the show about the circles they've had. Well, Cornell just
keeps going. They're seven at all. It's really feels like
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teams that are, you know, pointing different directions here. If
colgates him to, you know, have something to say about
things this season, they would they would be well served
to do so.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Starting Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I you know, it has
been a moderately friendly calendar so far for Cornelli, and
they did play fourteen yel and fifteen Brown this past weekend.
But even with Colgate struggles, you know, again a bit
of a rivalry here these two. It'll be interesting. I think,
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you know, Colgate has to score some goals and they're
going up against Aniles Bergman, one of the best in
the country, and they have to be better on defense,
and so yeah, I you know, the way things are going,
I think you have to look at this and the scene,
Cornell is gonna sweep. So it'll be interesting to see
what cold what Colgate can do this weekend.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
There's always something every weekend to make see I wasn't
expecting that, So that's that's right.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I mean, I don't think they're gonna lay down and
like give up on the rest of the season. And
I think there's a lot of fight there. So I
imagine they did not love losing that game last weekend
to ri T and so again with that, like show
us what you're made of. They have a chance to
come out here, and you know, Cornell is one of
two undefeated teams left, so there's definitely some you know,
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these are team, two teams that have been vying for
the top of the conference the last two seasons. Like,
I can't imagine there's a ton of positive feelings in
either direction there. I don't like, I don't think it's
like a huge rivalver Air hatred, but like that's the
team that you know, has been getting the other one
has been getting the top of the you know, standings,
and so yeah, I think I think there's some some
great motivators there for the Raiders to go out and
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really you know, show that last week was now the
team they're going to be this year.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yes, Battle of kame av gets going on Thursday and Friday.
Boston University and Boston College BC hosting Thursday and BU
hosting Friday. A couple of teams that you know have
shown we think we've seen sparks. We've seen some things
that are like, well, maybe there's something there around this
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time last year, we're saying the same thing about BU.
They've abuly had difficulties getting back to that point at
the start of this season. It's it's a two and
eight overall start for BU, two and three east. So
this is one of those terrible cliches, but like the
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UBC throughout the records, feels like it's sort of appropriate though.
I mean, if if I'm BU, I can look at
this and say, here's our rival on the other side
of this. We've got a chance to turn things around
right now. Who else would you rather have it against?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
For sure? And they have nothing to lose, Like the records,
everything says that they should get swept this weekend, so
there should be absolutely nothing holding them back, like try everything,
switch up pairs, try it like whatever it is. But
I think that absolutely you need something to jump start
your season, Like you said, nothing better than your rival
to go out there and really turn things around and
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really get you motivated to make a difference. And so
I mean, like I said, if I'm BU, I'm trying
everything this weekend, if any any trick plays you want
to try, and he changed it in the lineups and
he switched things around. I think you got to do
it because it's only in November. It's only the November eleventh, twelfth, whatever,
So you can't look at your record right now and
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be like, well, that's who we are this season. Like
there's so much as much as I you know, I
don't do I think they're gonna turn around and ring
when the conferences probably not, but like you also don't
have to sort of lay down and just let it
be what it is. And so there's always conference tournaments
in Hockey East with their one and done conference tournament
makes that very exciting and there's lots of opportunities and
so yeah, I think, like you said, what better way
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to spark things and change it than against your rivals.
And so I hope that we see some of that
from VU and expect and BC better be prepared and
the same thing. BC's got to go out and sort
of give everything they've got. They can't take this lightly.
They can't look at that record and say like, you know,
we're the better team and just assume that they're going
to get the wins.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
A couple will look at in the WHA Wisconsin at
number ten Saint Claus State Friday and Saturday number five
Minnesota to lose that number fifteen Saint Thomas also Friday
and said they would talk about Saint Thomas stumbling against
Emigie and so that will be an interesting one to
see whether they read bad going or if there's a
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this is not an easy team to do that against.
When you have at Loo coming into your building. What
what should we look for there? When when we're talking
about Saint Thomas and you know, like we've mentioned before,
is there's gonna be these these hurdles, these stumbles of
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not having been in a top fifteen position very long
and understanding what it means. Well, now you've got a
number five team coming in their building. So I'm they're
more familiar with that of having, uh, the higher ranked
team be the other on the other side.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, they seem to do better in that sort of
underdog underestimate us sort of way. I just went and
checked because I could not remember last year they they
split their series with UMD, they beat them twice on
their home ice. Because what's interesting is is how it
seems to match up differently with some of the different
wh A teams, Like they've had a better luck against
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like Ohio State than they have save vers Wisconsin or Minnesota.
Just something about the styles of play in Minnesota. Duluth
plays a completely diferent style from all three of those teams,
and I think that it suits. I like how offensive
Saint Thomas has been, not just like whether or not
they're scoring goals, but sort of the aggressiveness, the fast breaks,
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the transitions, what they've been able to do. I think
they're just trusting themselves so much more and sort of
instead of sort of like reacting to what's happening or planning,
you know, planning to get bombarded and sort of maybe
not necessarily sitting back, but like playing a game that
is more reactive. And I don't feel like they're doing
that as much this year, and I think that that
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could go well against Minnesota. Duluth can sometimes be in
the same position, which is to say that they are
they're not necessarily always getting to play their offensive game.
They're not necessarily a team that's going to go out
and sort of impose their will on that other squad.
And so I think there's an opportunity here, and I
think whoever it feels like there needs to be early
(39:53):
scoring from someone and whoever gets those early goal or
goals will will have an advantage here.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Ye. In that Wisconson Saint Cloud series, looks like Wisconsin
is back to full strength in terms of players. Everyone
was on the ice for their practice that we saw today.
And so that's with Della chef of Valley Vova being
out a couple of games and Landy Potter also being
out a few games. Ah, and before that it was
(40:21):
christ the Simms and everyone's being out and so there's
been even Murphy was out for one of the games
against Minnesota. It's been kind of a revolving door a
little bit of who's in a line of But if
the Badgers back to full strength or closer to it anyway,
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that obviously makes them the team that can really make
teams pay offensive or for defensive mistakes. And with with
the offense.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
That they have, Yeah, I think Saint Cloud too has
been you know, if you've watched them their games, like
the some of them have just looked like a foot
race like showdowns, just back and forth up and down
the ice. And so Wisconsin showed some weaknesses against Minnesota
in terms of turnovers on defense and not the cleanest
(41:14):
d and so I think Saint Cloud is a team
that really could make them pay for that. The you know,
the downside for Saint Cloud is that players like hey,
ky Hiri, even if the puck gets stolen, She's she's
gonna to her darness to catch you and take it
right back off your stick. But I think, you know,
Saint Cloud is going to be looking for those opportunities
to sort of jump into a play and take take
the puck away and head off in the other direction. Yeah, Wisconsin,
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I mean when they were having their injuries, they were
you know, like and they moved their third line center
up to the top and then she won wha forward
of the week. I was like, this is why people
hate Wisconsin because it was just like, all of these
things have changed and they're still out there doing what
they do. And so their adaptability in their depth is
what has helped carry them through the last few weeks.
(42:00):
And now you're saying their whole lineup is back and
that's that's gonna be, I think a tough task for
for most anybody. Sink Cloud hasn't been as strong on defense,
hasn't been as strong goaltending as like we know that
they can be, and so I think there's been a
little transition there for them. But they've also shown some
really good sparks of brilliance, And like I said, I
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think the I think one of the focuses has been
sort of like exploiting others' mistakes and really like being
watching the puck and seeing opportunities to take it the
other direction. So I think Wisconsin has to be smart
with the puck and be careful of that because I
really think that that's how sink Cloud is gonna try
and keep this game. You're close, because they know that
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Wisconsin's going to try and hold possession and is going
to put pucks on the net.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, all right, that's just a little bit of what's
coming this weekend. Make sure you check all the full
schedules on usc at Joe dot com. Now let's look
ahead a couple of weeks. There's a lot of things
you could be doing on Thanksgiving. Right, there's football games
on TV. You've got family, You've got no whatever kind
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of special things do Nicole? What should people be watching
on TV on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I'm gonna be on Jeopardy on Thanksgiving. It's very strange
and very funny, and known about it for a little while.
I actually recorded an episode a few weeks ago from
LA when I was there filming, which could tell anybody
about But yeah, you know that's it. All happened very fast.
(43:40):
I first took the very first test July first, and
I recorded on October twenty first, So was a whirlwind
for me. It explains why sometimes I've been real stressed
and real scatter brained and real feeling like I don't
know which way is up or down because I like
have less than a month to do some extra studying
(44:00):
and cramming and spent all my extra time doing that,
memorizing the presidents and ordering things like that. But yeah,
super exciting. My husband and I watch Jeopardy. We DVR
it and watch it while we eat dinner. Like this
is I am a big like trivia nerd. But also
it's not like been a lifelong dream. I think mostly
because like I never expected it and I took the
(44:23):
test the first test kind of on a whim, I
saw a commercial that was like signed up for the test,
so I did, and then it like popped up on
my scree and not realize I was taking it that
that in there, and uh, that probably worked in my
favorite because I didn't overthink any of it. So I
took the test in a couple more tests and did
like a zoom where they tested me and asked me
(44:44):
questions and things. Within like two weeks of that final step,
I got the invitation to come out and shoot an episode.
So yeah, very exciting. I have no idea. Everybody has
to check their local listings because I don't know when
or where Jeopardy is in your hometown, and also football
is probably gonna make things weird. So I put this
(45:05):
out on social media on Tuesday night and someone already
said like as soon I will have Apparently somebody puts
out like where your Jeopardy can be found on days
and it has been preempted. So what I get that
from this very nice person. I will share that, but yeah,
very exciting, very stressful, very weird. It is actually my
(45:26):
idea of like horror to sit and watch this amongst
my family on Thanksgiving. Yeah, I mean I'm a journalist.
I'm used to hearing myself and seeing myself, but I
don't want other I don't want to be sitting in
a group of people watching me. That sounds awful. When
I found out I was recording in like October, my
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husband's like, what if you were on Thanksgiving? And I
was like, no, that would be awful. And then I
realized when I was there that they were recording the
Thanksgiving week ones, and then like, you know, there's twelve
people in the rooms to go out with the returning Champion,
and like keeps happening and I'm not getting called, and
I'm like, oh my god, I'm going to be on Thansgiving.
And they take your phone or tell you to turn
(46:09):
your phone and put it away, but I really wanted
to pull it out and just kind of like send
some explative life you text like this is all your fault.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, I think it'll I'm sure it will be fine.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
You'll be it will be fine. It's just the whole
thing is very wonderful and very weird.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yes, I can imagine. Well, I think it's awesome. I
was always wondering, like what people do to prepare for
being on Jeopardy because it's not like, you know, just
your average game show. You actually do have to know
things as opposed yeah, games of chance or whatever. But
(46:51):
so yeah, it's interesting to I.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Think if I'd had more time, I would have like, yeah, well,
you know, if you watch well, there are people least
smarter than me that have career like databases of previous
questions and like things that come up more often, and
things they call Jeopardy Pavlovs, which is like if they
stay like Danish, oh god, I don't want to get
this wrong, like finish composer, that's gonna be sibilius like
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ninety nine percent of the time, so like you don't
even need to know the rest of the clue. So
it's like, you know, there's so they call them Pavlovs,
and there's a bunch of those, so there's stuff that's
recurring and then like yeah, there's a ton of present
stuff and that's not something I ever learned. So if
I'd had more time, I probably would have made a
more like intense study plan. But I found out and
(47:35):
was going to tape. I think it was less than
a month to three to four weeks four to five weeks.
I don't remember exactly what I and this is all
I'm need to remind everybody that I found out about this.
That means I found out in early September, which is
when the hockey season was start shitting and I was
doing previews and things like the timing was you know,
a plus in that way. So I just kind of
(47:58):
thought like, well, there's no way I can and study
everything I need to study, and so I just tried
to think of the things that I knew that I
wasn't as good in, things like the Presidents, things like
opera and ballet. I studied up on my Shakespeare sort
of like you know, I'm a person who went to college,
so I have like a very basic Shakespeare, but like
(48:19):
who are all the characters in all the different plays?
Things like that. So like this is me on the
airplane going through flash cards because.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I do have the Internet.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
But yeah, I don't know the eddy of that helped
or mattered, but it went well. I was happy with it.
We can talk a little bit more about it because
I'm not allowed to share anything until it airs, so
we can talk a little bit more about it after
it does air. But you know, spend your American Thanksgiving
with me. If you don't get to chances to watch
it on Thanksgiving, then they put them online, I think
(48:48):
on Hulu and maybe Peacock or somewhere else. I will
get all this information the day after it airs, so
you can watch it online. But it's very exciting, it's cool.
People have been very nice the little bit we've talked
about it so far online, so.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I'm looking forward to it. So I hope you all
of our our listeners are going to check out too,
so not to add more, you know, stress to your life. Right.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Oh, it's fine. I mean I'm being awkward about it,
but it's very It is so cool, and just the
whole thing has been very surreal. I mean, even because
it happens so fast. Even that I was like, am
I getting Is this?
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Like?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Am I pumped? Is this a lie?
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Am I getting?
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Is it a scam? I really didn't believe any of it.
And then suddenly I was like being asked for my
plain details and like, here is the QR code to
get on the Sony Picture Studio a lot. And I
was like, oh, well, okay, I guess that means it's real.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I guess it's real. Yeah, all right, well we're going
to wrap it up with that. Make sure you put
that on your calendar for Thanksgiving everyone, and check on
the call on that, and make sure you come back
and join us next week for another edition of the
podcast where we look back at what happens in this
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weekend's game. So fur to cole On Todd, thanks for
leaching
Uscho dot com. Hi, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
Todd Moluski here with Nicole Hosey from us cho dot
com to talk about all things women's hockey. This week,
we gotten a little bitter for the Bridalry series to
talk about. We've got some college games to talk about.
We've got a major game show announcement to talk about
(00:28):
with Nicole. We'll get to that. And if that's not
a teaser, I don't know what is. But Nicole, let's
let's start with some of the games from last week.
And one that I know we'd highlighted in last week's show,
Number seven Quidipac and number eleven Clarkson turns out to
be a zero zero tie. On Saturday. Holly Gruber raised
(00:51):
thirty six hites for Clarkson and Felicia Fray thirty two
says for Quidipiac. Clarkson wins the shootout one nothing but so,
what right? What do we take off of that? I
don't I don't really know what the what the lake
of zero zero tie in a game that we're expecting
to be I mean expecting me a little bit more
(01:14):
than that. But hooray for the defenses.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I guess, yeah, it's hilarious. You know, sometimes we lament
like a split ended up telling us nothing but goodness,
is there anything that gives us less information than of
a zero zero tie?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, I don't know what to make of it either.
I thought both teams have been so good at scoring.
I mean, yeah, hurry for the uh particularly the Clerkson
defense right like kil and la Marsh has been basically
unstoppable from everybody, so you know, that's a huge win
for them. But yeah, how odd I mean, goodness, I
feel like we don't get a lot of zero zero
times ever, and so yeah, interesting. I mean, those two
(01:51):
teams playing each other is a bit of a chess
match that usually does again not under a zero zero tie,
but yeah, kind of a strange. I mean, I can't
imagine being a fan there in that game, like you're literally,
you know, spectating a chess match. So yeah, I think
there probably was a lot of desire to not make
(02:13):
a mistake, to especially you know, as time goes out
in the game and it's still zero zero ties, so
probably just a little bit more careful, a little bit
more precious. And I guess I don't know that I
blame them in November, like nobody wants to.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I think as that game goes along, you're probably thinking,
all right, I'm happy with my point and a half, easy,
easy scoring and and you know, not giving up the advantage.
Quinnipiac seems to be the team to beat and have
the advantage sort of amongst the teams. Maybe you know
them in Cornell and so yeah, it makes me wonder
if there was just like a mindset shift of like,
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we're okay with this, which I think, you know, I
don't I don't love, and I bet coaches probably don't love.
But yeah, I don't know. It's a whole lot of
way of saying, who knows what to take away from that?
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, I think it's it's helpful to rewind a little
bit of Friday with both of those teams too. Quinnipiac
had to get a overtime win over Saint Lawrence three
to two. Kiln Marsh LaMarsh, who would mentioned a minute ago,
scored two of the goals. Tesla Hulk got the overtime goal.
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LaMarsh up to twenty goals of fifteen games, which is
a pretty remarkable number for the first half of the season.
And then on the Clarkson side, Clukson also didn't score
on Friday, lost in overtime to Princeton on a Riley
Sorocan goal. So for both of those teams, I'm thinking,
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you know, you're coming in going, you know, some opposite
directions there. For the Friday, I think Quinnipiac has a
little bit more to feel good about. How the weekend obviously,
I mean, I don't know, that's probably captain obvious they
were talking about Clark's a weekend when they didn't score
a goal, not having a lot to love there. But
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it does feel to me too that we're we're looking
for bigger things out of a still an early part
of the season, when these teams are fully developed. So
I would I would be a little bit more maybe
worried about Clark said if this happened in the second half,
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But I still think there's there's a lot of time there,
There's a lot of skill and experience there too to
make something happened uh down down the rest of the season. Then, man,
let's I just came out of them thinking zero zero, Wow,
that's that just felt but not what I would have
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expected at all out of that game.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, absolutely, I think to so strange just to almost
leave me without anything to say, like, I have no
idea what to make of it. I think, you know,
there's probably the asterisk on it for me will be
to pay attention to how Clarkson does in the next
week or two in terms of scoring like that. It's
a like, okay, it's not a problem till it's a problem, right,
(05:18):
you know, was it an aberration or is it telling
us more about you know, who they are as a
team and what they might be struggling with and so yeah,
and I, like I said, I think their defense absolutely
has to take that as a win, huge weekend for
them to kind of slow down the ball rolling very
quickly down the hill. That is the Bobcats right now
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on offense. And so there is that, But yeah, I
think you have to you gotta score goals, right, like
all this adage in the book. So I think as
a coaching staff, they probably are looking at that and
those are the types of things that they'll be working
on and whether it's you know, finding lianes and stuff
like that, but that I think has to be sort
of the lasting thing is you know, you gotta score
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goals and if that's not happening sort of in repetition,
then then there's something wrong and something you got to
work on. So yeah, put a bookmark on that, come
back to it in a week or two and we'll
see what happens. But yeah, I think surprising too. You know,
Saint Lawrence hasn't had the start of the season they
would have wanted, so a little surprising to me that
they took Quinnipiac to.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Overtime.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Who was Quinnipiac? Great?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Ye, well they all those overtime games, and then you know,
you briefly mentioned good for Princeton. That was Riley Surrikins's
first career goal, so good for her. Good time to
get it. Not sure you'd ever forget that anyway, but
especially in that particular instance. So but yeah, so surprising
that one O and O games for Clerkson this weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
All right, let's spin around the country. They took a
look at what else we took out of last weekend.
I want to start with new Ha asually say an
Selm's swooping post for two form zero to move seven
points ahead of stone Hill after stone Hills split with assumption.
So there's a little bit of separation starting. I think
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all those teams of eight games played, now you're getting
into you know, okay, sample size of games in conference play,
and so maybe we're we're seeing st Ansel kind of
take that that first place, that's starting to run with
it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, and you know the other thing, and that was
way to get that split assumption. I think, you know,
they've had a couple of results that like maybe we're surprising,
but you know, kind of like what I just said,
O cursy, like one or two times is an aberration,
a few times is a trend. And they continue to
win games and and beat teens that like on paper
or like per preseason calculations, they weren't necessarily gonna win.
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And so I think they're continuing to put together a
really good season. And I think, uh, that stuff like
that is really gonna be hard on teams like stone Hill, who,
as Saint Anthelm is, is winning those games, like stone
Hill's giving up more point then maybe they would have
thought in some of those series too. So they're they're
really going to have to fight that much harder and
maybe in some tougher matchups that to pull those points back.
(08:10):
But it's if sad Anselm was still is going to
continue to take you know, six points a weekend, that's
gonna be really hard. You know, it's gonna be really
hard to catch them. And seven points isn't a huge gap,
but it's kind of big November, and like, if they
just keep you know, sort of at five hundred, they're
putting theirselves in a really great position.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Clay a non conference upset we saw last weekend RIT
with a three nothing or sorry, three to one road
win against number thirteen Colgate on Saturday. They're so interesting.
We both caught this in the box score. So interesting
parts of that box score RIT twenty one blocks of
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seventy three attempts by Colgate Coldgate zero blocks, which is,
you know, in a close game, what you were saying
before we started recording, doesn't a puck just hit someone
shin pad count as a block. It's a it's an
odd number if that was actually an act your account
of the number of shot blocks there. But a big
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win for RT on the road. There are now seven
to seven overall. Is the team that hasn't had a
winning season since twenty thirteen, fourteen, So I know that's
that's kind of the you know, the bar that that
you look to to get to when you when it's
been such a long time, just get to that point
and see if you can get a winging record. They're
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they're at five hundred on the coldiate, they've lost four
of the last seven. They're five six and one. We've
talked before this is you know, there's some some tough
times there, but maybe a little bit bit of a
concern there. And you know on the RT side, a
big boost out thin GAT non conference play.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And the second ranked win for RT. The y'all so
beat Saint Lawrence earlier in this season. So as you said,
like you look for those little milestones and those things
that you keep getting right. And yeah, as seven wins
for them in November is a huge step. That's like
that's such a great place for them to be and
they have to have so much confidence. And I mean
the thing about the Colgate and the no blocks, it's like, well,
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they were at home, so we don't think it was
a scorekeeper error thing, right, like you you went and checked,
you know a couple other things. I Mean, the concerning
thing for me is what Colgate is struggling with is
defense and you are losing a game and you don't
have any blocks, and I am just I mean, I
don't know, like that speaks for itself. There's nothing else
to say there, So it's yeah, it's definitely concerning. It's
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definitely weird. I have a lot of questions. Maybe there
is an explanation, Like it is so weird it is
for me to think it wasn't possible. But yeah, it's
just a it's not a great situation to be in.
And I don't know if this is a thing we are.
I mean, there's just so many there's so many possible explanations.
But I mean Colgate was a really great offensive team
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for so long and had a really strong goalie, and like,
I mean, they are they out of practice playing straw defense,
Like that wasn't a thing they were focusing on. I
don't know, man, it's a I always feel so like
sort of awkward critiquing, especially when we have so much
so little information and we're just I'll watch it on
a stream from far far away. But man, did that
you know? I think there was another game I said this,
(11:26):
weeven had no blocks, but like the opposing team had
nine shots, So like Okay, you know, like this isn't like,
this isn't a thing where it was like, oh, they
just didn't put the puck on it and stuff like that.
Like everything, I kind of double checked all of the
things that would like lead to this, and it just
doesn't seem to be the situation. And so yeah, I
guess if anybody's got the insight, we'd love to hear it.
(11:47):
But yeah, definitely, it's definitely going to continue to be
an uphill climb for Colgate. I mean, they're at the
point where they're almost out of the rankings, and they're
probably mostly there because of the residuals of being there
from the beginning of the year and not really having
anybody to move up. And like, I just at this point,
there isn't anything about their season that isn't disappointing for them.
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I don't think this is not what they've come to expect.
It's not what they've created for themselves. And I mean,
the good part is that it's November and they've got
lots of time to make pushes and try and figure
some stuff out.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I'm leaving space for in my own mind the possibility
that that was just a box score glitch altogether, either
on our end or on the Genius side. The Genius
is the company that runs the live stats for sure input,
and so something could have happened there.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I know part of me is like, do we not
even bring it up? And part of me is like,
oh no, you guys, so yeah, I agree. I think
when I wrote about it at Victory Press, I'm like,
I am willing to accept that this might like this
might be not actually true. However, I still pickly need
to bring it up.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yes, over in wha less busy skied Sedule last week
because of the rivalry series and in the November international break.
But BMITCHI s got a win over Saint Thomas over
fourteen Saint Thomas last Saturday, two to one, Caitlyn Gross
with twenty seven Sayers. And that's a BAMIGI team that's
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that struggle to get something going, get positive feelings going
in it. There's a win against the ranked team that
is a you know, okay, first half of your season
may not be going the way you like, but you've
got something there and there's a a little bit to
say if we can do that against the ranked team,
we can do that the next time. We play a
ranked team and wycha that's pretty much every weekend, every week.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, for sure. And I think you know on the
opposite side that is in no offense BMIDGI. But like
Saint Thomas, that's a that's a bad loss. Like you
are a team that has shown you're taking a step forward,
you're trying, you know, you've gotten ranked all but sort
of thing, those are games you have to win, you
just full stop. It's too competitive. The WHA is competitive.
I know that, like because of the top of the WHA,
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they're not necessarily fighting for that spot, but maybe fighting
for other things. But that's just a bad loss. It's
one that you can't have. We talked about not being
not being able to drop points in several other conferences
as well, and yeah, that was just it was one
of those where I think we've been so high on
Saint Thomas and what they've been able to do, and
I think it's one where you're like, you remember that
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this that it's a team that's new to this right
and they're still they're still doing it. Is trying to
figure out what it means to be a rap team
and be sort of have a target on your back
and be not the underdog, and I think that this
is one of those growing pains that comes with that.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But Minjie stay out of last place in the w
CJ with that win too, And did not occur to
me that as we're not looking at the WATU Sundays,
everyone's got the same eight games played. Number ten in
the country, Saint claud State is the last place team.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
If you like that gives that gives power to what
I've said about how hard it is to rank teams.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Right now, terribly hard right now, because you I think
everyone's going on a say claud State is like, Okay,
well we've seen this team as being a mid pack
top fifteen team for a few years now. Well, and
if you're going to take them out, you have to
play some with some one in the top fifteen. And there's
not a ton of teams that are just jumping to
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the forefront there.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
No. And I think they were ranked on the power
of how they were playing against top those top four
or five teams in the country, right But then you
that also means that they have to take the hit
when they're when they're not winning games they should be winning.
So yeah, it's a if you're you know, nobody you
there aren't fifteen teams that have, you know, great winning
records that you want to just like put one to fifteen, like,
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it's just not there's too much parody right now. And
so when that's the case, then you're looking at how
teams are performing against other high ranked teams and yeah,
but the Poles, Poles are a mess. Friends, I don't
know what to tell you. Cannot wait till the MP
until we have enough games at the NP, I can
just tell me what to do.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I think we're getting closer now. Yeah, it's uh, it's
to the point where everyone you know, EC A, C,
the Ivy League teams have all played enough games. I
think they're enough playing enough different teams. So it's not
either you're through one weekend. You you've got two wins
and they both has the same team and we're so
if I think, if you want to start looking go
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for it. I don't. I don't have this from mathematical geniuses,
but I think they would probably tell me that at
this point that it's it's good to take a peek at.
Maybe don't don't spend too much time there, but.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
All right, well, yeah I will not hang my whole,
my full voting on that. But yeah, it's just it's
at the point where I'm like, every week, you're just
like I, I spend more time on it than like
I really I feel should be spent on some of
that stuff, like I do not, but I don't like
not to you flip, but I just like, I don't
think you should be agonizing over like seven, eight to
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nine as much as I have been.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
No, but I agree I do when I vote, I
do in the same thing. It's there's there's too much
into it, But okay. Hockeys. A couple of results I
thought were interesting, A couple splits. Boston College and number
eight Yukon got splits, with each winning on the other
team's hoys. Yukon won three to one on Friday at
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BC t chair made thirty one saves and that one
say hottles, I hope I'm saying that right, hot less hottles.
I apologize for either one that I wrote broke a
one one tie with three and a half minutes left,
and that one. BC came back Saturday with a two
to one win with Eva Thomas breaking a one to
one tie with a redirection in front of it with
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just two seconds left. That was a a play a
shot through the point that just looked like you had
the right amount of traffic in front and and Thomas
got got a stick on it, and there is a
winning goal in the last couple of seconds.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So it's it's like the type of thing you should
show your team when you're saying be a Bucks today.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh yeah, right, I mean, with that amount of time left,
what's what's what's it gonna hurt? Man? So BC getting
an important result there, we'd we'd seen them being near
the at the top at and then near the top
of hockey standing for a while. You know, if if
they're going to keep staying up there, they've got a
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few more games played than than the other teams around them.
They need to add some wins. And yeah, it's it's
the Northeastern's tharting to uh starting to pull away from
a winning percentage or a point percentage perspective. Fifteen points
for five games, so that's one hundred percent. Uh, They're
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they're doing pretty well there. If anyone one is going
to stay up with them, they are going to to
one Eastern, but then also stay up with these other
games like be it pace, Yeah, you can, would have
would have loved to have that those three points out
of that game on set.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I feel like a split is probably a pretty good
result for both those two teams though, Like I think
this is what we talk about when it's like not
settling for a tie and and and you know, really
pushing and getting that extra point that less than three
seconds left and you know, put the puck to net
and see what happens. And I think that getting that
win was really important for DC. They are a team
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that like doesn't always respond when things like start to
go poorly, Like if they have a poor game, I
always want them to go out that next game and
like really show that fire, and I feel like they
don't always do that. And so this was just like
a little bit of that fight that I like to
see from teams when things. You know, you get a loss,
a tight loss, right like that one ended up in
three to one, but it was within the last couple
of minutes and you go out and you on their
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ice and win those points back. So you know, in
the scheme of things against Northeastern, not ideal situation for
either of them, But I thought it showed a lot
of fight from BC side and that bodes well for
the rest of the season for them.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Definitely, Northeastern, as I mentioned, five and zeroe Conference, after
stooping for a month, three to nothing, three to two
at Lisa Johnson with twenty save for the shutout on Friday,
and then Jules Countstantinople power play goal in the second
period gives the Huskies a three to lead and that's
the lead they carried for the rest of the wade.
(20:34):
This is the Northeastern team. I think we we didn't know, right,
I mean over the last few years, maybe not last year,
but that the season's previous. Got it goalie, that's gonna
win you a lot of games and have an opportunistic offense,
and that's that's that's that's a pretty good combination.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, if you get their box scores,
it's not like they're just going out and dominating. Like
there's been a couple back and forth games and then
when it comes down to it, they pull away at
the end, and that is just such a huge advantage.
And the ability to do that and to sort of
buckle down and put a game out of reach has
been something they've been able to do for the last
couple of years, but something we didn't see in the
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first you know, six weeks or whatever whatever from them.
So yeah, I thought that was like exactly like what
you said. We mean, we've kind of talked about like
who's this Northeastern team in a few episodes, and it
was like they came out this weekend and showed exactly,
you know, sort of who they are and what they
can do. You know, a couple of younger players on
that team and things like that. So maybe it just
took a little while for them to settle and find
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their their rhythm again, you know, never never hanging our
hats on what happens in any two games, right, So
we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
But that was the sort of flash of fight and
talent and scoring and like I said, just that for them,
they're a team that consistently like they'll be in a
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close game. You'll look up and be like, oh, that's
a tie game. I didn't expect that to be tied,
And the next time you look up, they're off by
like three, and it feels like no time has passed.
And so that to me is the standout bit of
what happened this weekend for them.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
We need to take a break here soon. Anything last
I need the last thoughts. We want to get in
about last week before we you know, take a break
and then come back and talk about the Riveler series.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
We've covered at all, well not at all, but you
can come. You can see everything either Nicole's weekend roundups
on usa joe dot com, victor press dot com or
check out the box scores on USA joe dot com,
so all sorts of information there. When we come back,
as I mentioned, we will talk Rivalry here is, we
will talk what's coming up this weekend, and we will
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talk about that mystery game show announcement.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Stay with us on the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast.
Todd Nicole here with you to talk about.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The Rivalry series. Games that we saw last week. A
couple of wins for the US over Canada four to
one in Cleveland on Thursday, six to one in Buffalo
on Saturday. Coupled hat tricks in the Thursday game with
Abby Murphy from Minnesota scoring three and then Taylor I
see the former Gophers scoring one, and then on Saturday
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it was the Wisconsin continues turned to get on the
board as Hillary Knight, the former Badger with a hat
trick and current Wisconsin defender which is Stold. Odd to
say Leyla Edwards with a goal and two assists. This
is you were mentioning before. Not unusual for us to
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see the US get out to a hot start in
a rivalry series. Is there anything that you I guess,
you know, big picture whise a lot of these couple
of games with.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's hard to I think on the surface, I was
really excited about how well Team USA looked and how
well they were moving the puck and just really sharp
and all of those sorts of things. But we have
seen that in pretty much all of the best rivalry
series where they came out in those early games and
looked great and then you know, get River swept on
the other side by Canada. So definitely not putting too
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much into it. I thought it was good to see
players like Heizy and Night looking so sharp because that
means it wasn't just the collegians that were sort of
up to speed. I also, I think like that's twofold
one is knowing that the cans and things that the
team USA has been doing, you know, the non centralization
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play this year certainly seems to have those players sort
of maybe more up to speed and up to date
then maybe they would be heading into the PWHL season,
meaning like they would they've spent more time playing at
a higher level, So there is that. I think that's
a good sign. You know, Canada was playing both of
their you know, the goalies. They're arguably third and fourth
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line goalies that were are probably going to be who
they're deciding between for that third spot and their roster.
I thought of Gasco and probably played a little bit better.
I also think Kaylee didn't get a ton of defensive support,
so I don't hold that score line against her. But yeah,
I thought the US. I liked the way the US
was moving the puck. I liked that we were getting
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some of the same lines, and how well they were
working together, like Janickey and Murphy, even the way that
Layla and Taylor Heisie were working with Taylor being Layla
being a defender. Those two seemed to be playing really
well together in some of the past worlds, and so
how how that is working seemed really nice. I thought
Layla looked much better than she did in the Wisconsin
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series we saw her play in before before she left
for this, where she seemed a little tentative still, so
she seemed to be much closer to to sort of
full strength and feeling comfortable, and it was nice to
see her. She had a great goal where she stepped in,
you know, took a puck some awesome one's stick and
took a couple of strides, got into net and put it,
put it lit the lamp.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It was just really sort of confident and smart and
the type of thing that you like to see from
your defender. So that I hope we see Carrie over
more because I don't know that she always plays sort
of that confident, insecure in that role. But yeah, overall,
I thought, you know, Team USA looked really great. They
just they the passing, the I mean Abby Berkeley scored.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
For ber Knees.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It was it was just there were a couple of
just really dirty, really pretty, really nice looking settel plays
from from Team USA. Uh, Taylor, heisie with her fake slapshot.
I think I said this today on Victory Press, but
they're on Tuesday and Victory Press. But if she's adding
sort of a more ruthless part to her game. I
think her opponents in the PWHL and and at the
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Olympics should be a little scared because she's always been
very talented. But it was just it was cold as
ice to do that fake slap shot, drop the pass
and easy goal for hometown girl Haley's kimura in Buffalo.
So yeah, takeaways are you know US was playing with
their lineup as they want it to be. Canada was
it right? Canada left a couple players off the roster,
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are trying to get better looks at some people, and
so I think I think that probably explains a lot
of sort of the disparities that we saw.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And this is just the first half of what this
series will be. The second half. Edmonton, December tenth of thirteen.
So we get away four weeks back in college essentially,
and then everyone goes off for the end of the
first semester US and Canada player we're getting right back
into this, which is not usually the way goes when
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you think about the rivalry series. The second half is
usually just the pro players because college players are really
in the harm their season when they it seems like
they usually do the second half in January or February,
don't they And that's obviously different this year because we're
talking the Olympics more then, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And we've done seven games series before, so it's actually
been three weekends, so it's all a little different. Yeah,
it'll be interesting to see. Presumably in December we will
see much more of that, like the lineups you expect
to see.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, also some international recognition. On Monday, a couple of
former and CVI women's hockey players inducted into the Hockey
Hall of Fame from Canada and from Harvard Jennifer botterrel
and from the US and Wisconsin Brianna Decker. Very fitting
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honors for both of them. They're both heart and soul
members of their college teams and of their international teams.
And that's really what stands out to me about both
of them is that you you knew what you're going
to get from them when they were part of your team,
and it was it was consistent. Was obviously a high
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high level of skill, but also a high level of
for both of them, and so really well deserve for
both of them.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, and for people that haven't been around, you know,
since the beginning, John Borel is a two time Patty
Kas winner. She won in two thousand and one and
two thousand and three. Sort of unusual with that that
you're in between, but she's the only two time winner, right, so.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
The winner as far as I were remembering, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, I would have said that with one hundred percent
certainty until I was saying it to a large group
of people and now I'm second cassing myself. But I
mean also just to me, super interesting too, write like
Barbral one in two thousand and one, in two thousand
and three, Brita Decker won in twenty twelve. Like that's
how sort of separate those are, those two are in age.
And it was interesting too because Brianna Decker is the
first Badger to go into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
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We will I would imagine that, well that she's not
going to be the last to be you know, imagine
Hillary retires, things like that. But it was, yeah, it's
just interesting. I don't think of Brienna, you know again
that sort of decade. You think of Jen from that
like builders group of the first set of NCAA players,
and so just interesting for them to go in at
(30:15):
the same time. Just kind of made me think about
the difference in how their careers went and where they
sort of ended up. And then also the other person
inducted was daniel Sivigo, the GM at the Montreal Victoire,
the PWHL. Danielle didn't actually was like not allowed to
play as a child, and so she sort of got
involved in other ways, and so I think the sport
(30:37):
as a whole has a lot to thank her for
and owe her for women's hockey. So I just wanted
to be able to mention her too. Even though she
didn't play in DA school, Danielle has done amazing things
for for women's hockey and paving the way for what's
possible now.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Definitely, massive congratulations through to all of them and every
leagues part of the Class of twenty twenty. Fun. Okay,
take another quick break when we come back, bullet ahead
to this coming weekend, then pending game show news. As
I've seved before, stay with us on the podcast. Welcome
(31:22):
back to the podcast. Todd Nicole wrapping up this week's
episode with a look at what's coming this week. And
if you're listening to us Wednesday morning, as we hope
you are right away and you're excited about listening to
the podcast right away? Drops Uh A Wednesday morning game
(31:42):
at Clarkson Saint Lawrence playing the the host Golden Knights.
Don't remember seeing a lot of ten am Eastern time Wednesday. Gay,
it was on the schedule. But if that means hot
he's on TV either in the day on a Wednesday,
(32:03):
I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, I assume it's a it's a school day thing.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I mean this.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I believe they do this because these two are like
twelve miles apart or something like that. They're very close
to each other. But clark it's it's a daytime game.
It's non conference. I assume.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
If you're home as I will be tomorrow, I will
wake up and watch some SMO Clarkson in the St.
Lawrence at nine am local time.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Important too for Clarkson to bosce back. I mean, that's
for sure. If they can get a goal in the
first five minutes, I think there will be a lot
of weight off shoulders there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
When I said that before, I did not realize this
game was happening. So yeah, could what well how to
answer on how their scoring situation is pretty quickly? Actually?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yes, we will I'm Home and Home series and you
see see hockey this week. Number four Cornell and number
fourteen Colgate. We've talked about in the past, earlier in
the show about the circles they've had. Well, Cornell just
keeps going. They're seven at all. It's really feels like
(33:11):
teams that are, you know, pointing different directions here. If
colgates him to, you know, have something to say about
things this season, they would they would be well served
to do so.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Starting Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I you know, it has
been a moderately friendly calendar so far for Cornelli, and
they did play fourteen yel and fifteen Brown this past weekend.
But even with Colgate struggles, you know, again a bit
of a rivalry here these two. It'll be interesting. I think,
(33:45):
you know, Colgate has to score some goals and they're
going up against Aniles Bergman, one of the best in
the country, and they have to be better on defense,
and so yeah, I you know, the way things are going,
I think you have to look at this and the scene,
Cornell is gonna sweep. So it'll be interesting to see
what cold what Colgate can do this weekend.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
There's always something every weekend to make see I wasn't
expecting that, So that's that's right.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I mean, I don't think they're gonna lay down and
like give up on the rest of the season. And
I think there's a lot of fight there. So I
imagine they did not love losing that game last weekend
to ri T and so again with that, like show
us what you're made of. They have a chance to
come out here, and you know, Cornell is one of
two undefeated teams left, so there's definitely some you know,
(34:35):
these are team, two teams that have been vying for
the top of the conference the last two seasons. Like,
I can't imagine there's a ton of positive feelings in
either direction there. I don't like, I don't think it's
like a huge rivalver Air hatred, but like that's the
team that you know, has been getting the other one
has been getting the top of the you know, standings,
and so yeah, I think I think there's some some
great motivators there for the Raiders to go out and
(34:57):
really you know, show that last week was now the
team they're going to be this year.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yes, Battle of kame av gets going on Thursday and Friday.
Boston University and Boston College BC hosting Thursday and BU
hosting Friday. A couple of teams that you know have
shown we think we've seen sparks. We've seen some things
that are like, well, maybe there's something there around this
(35:24):
time last year, we're saying the same thing about BU.
They've abuly had difficulties getting back to that point at
the start of this season. It's it's a two and
eight overall start for BU, two and three east. So
this is one of those terrible cliches, but like the
(35:46):
UBC throughout the records, feels like it's sort of appropriate though.
I mean, if if I'm BU, I can look at
this and say, here's our rival on the other side
of this. We've got a chance to turn things around
right now. Who else would you rather have it against?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
For sure? And they have nothing to lose, Like the records,
everything says that they should get swept this weekend, so
there should be absolutely nothing holding them back, like try everything,
switch up pairs, try it like whatever it is. But
I think that absolutely you need something to jump start
your season, Like you said, nothing better than your rival
to go out there and really turn things around and
(36:28):
really get you motivated to make a difference. And so
I mean, like I said, if I'm BU, I'm trying
everything this weekend, if any any trick plays you want
to try, and he changed it in the lineups and
he switched things around. I think you got to do
it because it's only in November. It's only the November eleventh, twelfth, whatever,
So you can't look at your record right now and
(36:49):
be like, well, that's who we are this season. Like
there's so much as much as I you know, I
don't do I think they're gonna turn around and ring
when the conferences probably not, but like you also don't
have to sort of lay down and just let it
be what it is. And so there's always conference tournaments
in Hockey East with their one and done conference tournament
makes that very exciting and there's lots of opportunities and
so yeah, I think, like you said, what better way
(37:12):
to spark things and change it than against your rivals.
And so I hope that we see some of that
from VU and expect and BC better be prepared and
the same thing. BC's got to go out and sort
of give everything they've got. They can't take this lightly.
They can't look at that record and say like, you know,
we're the better team and just assume that they're going
to get the wins.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
A couple will look at in the WHA Wisconsin at
number ten Saint Claus State Friday and Saturday number five
Minnesota to lose that number fifteen Saint Thomas also Friday
and said they would talk about Saint Thomas stumbling against
Emigie and so that will be an interesting one to
see whether they read bad going or if there's a
(37:52):
this is not an easy team to do that against.
When you have at Loo coming into your building. What
what should we look for there? When when we're talking
about Saint Thomas and you know, like we've mentioned before,
is there's gonna be these these hurdles, these stumbles of
(38:13):
not having been in a top fifteen position very long
and understanding what it means. Well, now you've got a
number five team coming in their building. So I'm they're
more familiar with that of having, uh, the higher ranked
team be the other on the other side.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, they seem to do better in that sort of
underdog underestimate us sort of way. I just went and
checked because I could not remember last year they they
split their series with UMD, they beat them twice on
their home ice. Because what's interesting is is how it
seems to match up differently with some of the different
wh A teams, Like they've had a better luck against
(38:53):
like Ohio State than they have save vers Wisconsin or Minnesota.
Just something about the styles of play in Minnesota. Duluth
plays a completely diferent style from all three of those teams,
and I think that it suits. I like how offensive
Saint Thomas has been, not just like whether or not
they're scoring goals, but sort of the aggressiveness, the fast breaks,
(39:13):
the transitions, what they've been able to do. I think
they're just trusting themselves so much more and sort of
instead of sort of like reacting to what's happening or planning,
you know, planning to get bombarded and sort of maybe
not necessarily sitting back, but like playing a game that
is more reactive. And I don't feel like they're doing
that as much this year, and I think that that
(39:33):
could go well against Minnesota. Duluth can sometimes be in
the same position, which is to say that they are
they're not necessarily always getting to play their offensive game.
They're not necessarily a team that's going to go out
and sort of impose their will on that other squad.
And so I think there's an opportunity here, and I
think whoever it feels like there needs to be early
(39:53):
scoring from someone and whoever gets those early goal or
goals will will have an advantage here.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Ye. In that Wisconson Saint Cloud series, looks like Wisconsin
is back to full strength in terms of players. Everyone
was on the ice for their practice that we saw today.
And so that's with Della chef of Valley Vova being
out a couple of games and Landy Potter also being
out a few games. Ah, and before that it was
(40:21):
christ the Simms and everyone's being out and so there's
been even Murphy was out for one of the games
against Minnesota. It's been kind of a revolving door a
little bit of who's in a line of But if
the Badgers back to full strength or closer to it anyway,
(40:41):
that obviously makes them the team that can really make
teams pay offensive or for defensive mistakes. And with with
the offense.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
That they have, Yeah, I think Saint Cloud too has
been you know, if you've watched them their games, like
the some of them have just looked like a foot
race like showdowns, just back and forth up and down
the ice. And so Wisconsin showed some weaknesses against Minnesota
in terms of turnovers on defense and not the cleanest
(41:14):
d and so I think Saint Cloud is a team
that really could make them pay for that. The you know,
the downside for Saint Cloud is that players like hey,
ky Hiri, even if the puck gets stolen, She's she's
gonna to her darness to catch you and take it
right back off your stick. But I think, you know,
Saint Cloud is going to be looking for those opportunities
to sort of jump into a play and take take
the puck away and head off in the other direction. Yeah, Wisconsin,
(41:40):
I mean when they were having their injuries, they were
you know, like and they moved their third line center
up to the top and then she won wha forward
of the week. I was like, this is why people
hate Wisconsin because it was just like, all of these
things have changed and they're still out there doing what
they do. And so their adaptability in their depth is
what has helped carry them through the last few weeks.
(42:00):
And now you're saying their whole lineup is back and
that's that's gonna be, I think a tough task for
for most anybody. Sink Cloud hasn't been as strong on defense,
hasn't been as strong goaltending as like we know that
they can be, and so I think there's been a
little transition there for them. But they've also shown some
really good sparks of brilliance, And like I said, I
(42:22):
think the I think one of the focuses has been
sort of like exploiting others' mistakes and really like being
watching the puck and seeing opportunities to take it the
other direction. So I think Wisconsin has to be smart
with the puck and be careful of that because I
really think that that's how sink Cloud is gonna try
and keep this game. You're close, because they know that
(42:45):
Wisconsin's going to try and hold possession and is going
to put pucks on the net.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, all right, that's just a little bit of what's
coming this weekend. Make sure you check all the full
schedules on usc at Joe dot com. Now let's look
ahead a couple of weeks. There's a lot of things
you could be doing on Thanksgiving. Right, there's football games
on TV. You've got family, You've got no whatever kind
(43:11):
of special things do Nicole? What should people be watching
on TV on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I'm gonna be on Jeopardy on Thanksgiving. It's very strange
and very funny, and known about it for a little while.
I actually recorded an episode a few weeks ago from
LA when I was there filming, which could tell anybody
about But yeah, you know that's it. All happened very fast.
(43:40):
I first took the very first test July first, and
I recorded on October twenty first, So was a whirlwind
for me. It explains why sometimes I've been real stressed
and real scatter brained and real feeling like I don't
know which way is up or down because I like
have less than a month to do some extra studying
(44:00):
and cramming and spent all my extra time doing that,
memorizing the presidents and ordering things like that. But yeah,
super exciting. My husband and I watch Jeopardy. We DVR
it and watch it while we eat dinner. Like this
is I am a big like trivia nerd. But also
it's not like been a lifelong dream. I think mostly
because like I never expected it and I took the
(44:23):
test the first test kind of on a whim, I
saw a commercial that was like signed up for the test,
so I did, and then it like popped up on
my scree and not realize I was taking it that
that in there, and uh, that probably worked in my
favorite because I didn't overthink any of it. So I
took the test in a couple more tests and did
like a zoom where they tested me and asked me
(44:44):
questions and things. Within like two weeks of that final step,
I got the invitation to come out and shoot an episode.
So yeah, very exciting. I have no idea. Everybody has
to check their local listings because I don't know when
or where Jeopardy is in your hometown, and also football
is probably gonna make things weird. So I put this
(45:05):
out on social media on Tuesday night and someone already
said like as soon I will have Apparently somebody puts
out like where your Jeopardy can be found on days
and it has been preempted. So what I get that
from this very nice person. I will share that, but yeah,
very exciting, very stressful, very weird. It is actually my
(45:26):
idea of like horror to sit and watch this amongst
my family on Thanksgiving. Yeah, I mean I'm a journalist.
I'm used to hearing myself and seeing myself, but I
don't want other I don't want to be sitting in
a group of people watching me. That sounds awful. When
I found out I was recording in like October, my
(45:48):
husband's like, what if you were on Thanksgiving? And I
was like, no, that would be awful. And then I
realized when I was there that they were recording the
Thanksgiving week ones, and then like, you know, there's twelve
people in the rooms to go out with the returning Champion,
and like keeps happening and I'm not getting called, and
I'm like, oh my god, I'm going to be on Thansgiving.
And they take your phone or tell you to turn
(46:09):
your phone and put it away, but I really wanted
to pull it out and just kind of like send
some explative life you text like this is all your fault.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, I think it'll I'm sure it will be fine.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
You'll be it will be fine. It's just the whole
thing is very wonderful and very weird.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yes, I can imagine. Well, I think it's awesome. I
was always wondering, like what people do to prepare for
being on Jeopardy because it's not like, you know, just
your average game show. You actually do have to know
things as opposed yeah, games of chance or whatever. But
(46:51):
so yeah, it's interesting to I.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Think if I'd had more time, I would have like, yeah, well,
you know, if you watch well, there are people least
smarter than me that have career like databases of previous
questions and like things that come up more often, and
things they call Jeopardy Pavlovs, which is like if they
stay like Danish, oh god, I don't want to get
this wrong, like finish composer, that's gonna be sibilius like
(47:14):
ninety nine percent of the time, so like you don't
even need to know the rest of the clue. So
it's like, you know, there's so they call them Pavlovs,
and there's a bunch of those, so there's stuff that's
recurring and then like yeah, there's a ton of present
stuff and that's not something I ever learned. So if
I'd had more time, I probably would have made a
more like intense study plan. But I found out and
(47:35):
was going to tape. I think it was less than
a month to three to four weeks four to five weeks.
I don't remember exactly what I and this is all
I'm need to remind everybody that I found out about this.
That means I found out in early September, which is
when the hockey season was start shitting and I was
doing previews and things like the timing was you know,
a plus in that way. So I just kind of
(47:58):
thought like, well, there's no way I can and study
everything I need to study, and so I just tried
to think of the things that I knew that I
wasn't as good in, things like the Presidents, things like
opera and ballet. I studied up on my Shakespeare sort
of like you know, I'm a person who went to college,
so I have like a very basic Shakespeare, but like
(48:19):
who are all the characters in all the different plays?
Things like that. So like this is me on the
airplane going through flash cards because.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I do have the Internet.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
But yeah, I don't know the eddy of that helped
or mattered, but it went well. I was happy with it.
We can talk a little bit more about it because
I'm not allowed to share anything until it airs, so
we can talk a little bit more about it after
it does air. But you know, spend your American Thanksgiving
with me. If you don't get to chances to watch
it on Thanksgiving, then they put them online, I think
(48:48):
on Hulu and maybe Peacock or somewhere else. I will
get all this information the day after it airs, so
you can watch it online. But it's very exciting, it's cool.
People have been very nice the little bit we've talked
about it so far online, so.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I'm looking forward to it. So I hope you all
of our our listeners are going to check out too,
so not to add more, you know, stress to your life. Right.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Oh, it's fine. I mean I'm being awkward about it,
but it's very It is so cool, and just the
whole thing has been very surreal. I mean, even because
it happens so fast. Even that I was like, am
I getting Is this?
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Like?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Am I pumped? Is this a lie?
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Am I getting?
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Is it a scam? I really didn't believe any of it.
And then suddenly I was like being asked for my
plain details and like, here is the QR code to
get on the Sony Picture Studio a lot. And I
was like, oh, well, okay, I guess that means it's real.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I guess it's real. Yeah, all right, well we're going
to wrap it up with that. Make sure you put
that on your calendar for Thanksgiving everyone, and check on
the call on that, and make sure you come back
and join us next week for another edition of the
podcast where we look back at what happens in this
(50:07):
weekend's game. So fur to cole On Todd, thanks for
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