Big Campus Life, NFL Kickoff & AJ Lee Returns! | Wrestling With the Topics 9/7/25 - The RCWR Show with Lee Sanders

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Tammy Sanders back with you guys. You all are checking
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for this weekend, September seventh, twenty twenty five. I am
Lee Sanders, and she, as always is the beautiful and
the lovely Tammy. Hello, how are you hey? What is

(03:31):
going on in kind of people? I hope you guys
are having a fantastic weekend so far? Yo, It's here,
finally the NFL regular season. It is here when it
counts the most. It's all about that regular season. I

(03:52):
gotta say though, as far as regular season, I know
we had some games that began on Thursday. As far
as the regular season goes, and as far as how
we are doing right now, I am looking at our

(04:13):
win loss record because we covered the Ravens. Well, Ravens
are going to be playing their first game later today.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
We did Ravens Commanders.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, Commanders as well, and later today, right, Eagles as well. Right,
So we we already played on Thursday. They played on
Thursday and they won. So we're off Dallas. So we're
off to a good start. Because we both had said
Eagles was going to win.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
I think we said the Chargers were gonna win against
Kansas City, but that I'm not.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'll have to go back. I'll have to go back
and check that out.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I know for sure that you said chargers, and I'm
almost positive I said chargers, but it's you know, it's
something for a later time.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I hope you guys have a
fantastic weekend so far. Hey yo, yo, your man can't
complain over here. So it has been a very busy
week for me. I have been making the transition to
the big old campus life as a new transfer student,

(05:23):
and that seems to be going pretty good so far.
My first week of classes is now in the books.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
And.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
You know, it's been pretty It's been an eye opening
experience so far. I know I was telling you earlier,
I kind of feel like Rodney Dangerfield and that Going
Back to School movie because I'm seeing all these young people,
you know, that's around me, and it's making me. It's inspiring.

(05:58):
It's definitely uplifting. But also at the same time, I'm
looking at all these nice, young, skinny people that are
walking around face fresh faces, and I'm going, man, I
feel like, oh head, I got to try to keep
up with these kids. And so on a good note,
it's been forcing me to all right, well do what

(06:19):
you can to walk around campus and all that more,
which I have been doing. To my credit, I have
been getting a lot of serious cardio in this week,
a lot, and I'm actually slimming down. I was telling Tams,
I said, you know, give me about two maybe three

(06:40):
weeks physically as far as my cardio goes, it's gonna
get back to where it was. Because when me and
Tams first started dating, I was walking to and from
my house in Springfield, Virginia for about forty five minutes
because that's how fall or I had to walk. My

(07:02):
bus stop would only take me to a certain point
in Springfield in a suburban neighborhood, and I pretty much
had to walk the rest of the way, and I
would normally have to walk that length of time. Believe
it or not. Now it may be different now in
twenty twenty five, but back then we're talking about that

(07:24):
would have been. That would have been twenty eleven. So
I know there was some alleged ideas that was running
around about expanding the bus routes, the length of times
and all that, and see the way the buses would
operate up around my way. If I didn't catch because
it would all start from the Springfield Metro station on

(07:48):
the Blue line. If I didn't catch that last bus
during the work week, which was I think about seven
fifteen seven almost seven thirty in the evening, then I
was forced to take a cab. And after a while,
those cab rides get expensive. Now, back then the cab

(08:08):
rides were like fifteen dollars, but just imagine when you're
doing that other day exactically, it gets expensive pretty quick.
So but I used to be able to catch that
in and then I would walk the rest of the way.
And will tell you I was a skinny little thing
when we first started dating and everything.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
I was the one having the trouble keeping up.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah yeah at that point. So to be right, so
to be back, And you know what's crazy about this.
I went through all the hassle getting that goddamn scooter,
that electric scooter that we were telling you guys about
last week. And when I finally started actually traveling to
the campus utilizing their parking lot and then going okay,

(08:52):
from here to my class, I'm using Google Maps and everything,
I'm going, Okay, so where am I going? And it's like,
oh shit, I only got to walk five minutes. Oh shit,
I only got to walk ten minutes. Oh okay, well bat,
let's go ahead, let's do that. And so I would say,
on average this week, now that it's in the books,

(09:15):
I have been walking, I would say a grand total.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Your why should be telling you what you walk daily.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I still don't know how to deal through all that yet.
I'm trying not to rely too much on technology because
it kind of makes me be It kind of makes
me be like I'm not thinking for myself. And so
I'm kind of noticing that as far as memory recall
and all that, the more that I'm relying on technology,

(09:45):
the more recall the less the less, you know, I
like utilizing that memory muscle more personally. But from what
I was able to average for this past week, I
would say I was averaging roughly about thirty to thirty
five minutes total of a walk. So if not a

(10:08):
little bit more, so, Yeah, that's actually that's actually pretty
damn good. But no, adjusting to the big campus life,
it's been pretty good, but there's definitely unique challenges that
come with this new round. You know, I'm reminded of
how when I was at community college you know, in
all my tenure, mainly of being at community college, you know,

(10:33):
most of my classes were on one line. I maybe
only had one, potentially two classes here and there. But
you know, for the most part, I dodged in person
classes as much as I could, because I love the
whole idea of either meeting up online at a specific

(10:54):
time privacy of my own home, or distance learning where
I could just Okay, hey, this is what's the homework
for this week, this is when it's due. Okay, back great.
I rarely had in person classes. I think me and
Tams can sit here and tell you that I did.
The years that I was at community college, I probably

(11:17):
had maybe a grand total of four in person classes.
That sound about right to you or is it a
little bit higher or you feels like definitely.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's definitely four, but it feels maybe just a.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Tad hire definitely way under seven. Oh yeah, yeah for sure.
So so maybe five, possibly six max.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
But that stretched over multi semester.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Multi semesters, not all in one, right, right, So it's
been a big one pint eighty adjusting to Nope, Nope,
all your classes are in person.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
We have any man, there is one that's here. Yeah,
that's online. Yeah, we have you have an Actually.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
No, I haven't done that yet because when the semester
kicked off, it happened the day after Labor Day, and
I should be hearing something from this online professor later
today as far as like proper introductions and all that.
But there's definitely been some challenges that's been coming in
as an older student being in this bigger environment, and

(12:23):
that mainly has to do with trying to trying to
be around people close to my age and have the
same life experiences and everything. TAM's already knows this, but
I'm sure she doesn't mind me sharing this, you know,
with you guys, and maybe we can expand upon it
just a little bit more or whatnot. But I'm sure

(12:45):
a lot of you guys can relate to what I'm
about to say, which is, you know, so, they tried
to hook me up with this mentor who was like
maybe somewhere between twenty two to twenty four years old.
And the whole premise of this guy being given to

(13:05):
me as a mentor is because he has three years
mentoring specifically in our journalism program. And I'm thinking to myself, well,
that's great. And everything. But this isn't what I ask for,
because what I asked for was somebody that was much
more closer to my age range, and on top of

(13:28):
that life experiences, and on top of that, II stiff.
It could be a female because as Tams and you know,
most of my friends have always told me over the years,
you seem to get along better with females, you have
a better rapport, You're much more open about yourself and

(13:49):
what's going on in your personal life with females as
opposed to men. And I think that really ties back
to the fact that when I was growing up as
a kid, my mother was both my mother and my
father right as a single parent. So I think that's
where and every time, you know, we would go around

(14:11):
you know, family and friends, you know, we mainly were
hanging around women. So I guess that is a large
part of the reason why I seem to just connect
better with females and all that. And so I bring
all this up because a couple of months ago they
had me fill out this uh this I look back

(14:32):
going it now and it almost kind of seemed like
a menu per se, because they gave me this open
uh not a survey but I guess you could call
it a survey. I don't know, man, but they were like, hey,
what do you want in a mentor? And we'll do
our best to accommodate you. And I said, okay, well,
since it's open ended, not one damn thing was honored,

(14:58):
and so I was really left disapp I took a
look at the picture of this kid, and I understand
he's a young adult. I understand that he's like, you know,
twenty two, twenty three, twenty four. Okay, he's a young adult.
But in my eyes, right you feel where I'm coming from,
being someone that is about to turn forty five, so
essentially five years away from fifty, I'm going, well, this

(15:20):
is a kid because he's still he hasn't even begun
to scratch the surface of his life. He's got a
long way to go for fucking up and finding his
finding his you know, true passion career path and like
so like you know, but but I'm like, I'm like, ah,
you know, I'm looking at this guy's picture and he

(15:41):
looks so preppy. I'm like, what the hell would I
have in common with this guy? This guy looks like,
you know, no, like absolutely not, no, so you know,
he's hitting me up talking about ice cream. Come meet
up for ice cream and and out and and break bread.

(16:02):
And I'm like thinking to myself, dude, I'm not here
for fucking ice cream. I'm here to my time is limited, right,
It's like I'm a man on a mission. I am
about getting that degree and trying to get that trying
to get that money. That's what I'm about right now.
And so I didn't say all that to him, obviously,
but I did send him a very nice, polite email

(16:22):
and I said, Yo, I appreciate you, but you know,
this whole mentoring thing, this isn't even nowhere near what
I had asks for. And basically he, uh, he understood
where I was coming from. He talked to him.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
He could have been burden.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh she's doing she's doing a little power reference. Yeah,
TV show power tongue in cheek reference. So I hit
up the the coordinator and I told the coordinator, look,
this is the deal. And then she came off understanding
but at the same time trying to defend why the

(17:01):
decision was and she's like, oh, you know, if you
would like for us to remove him, have you be
removed from his mentoring pool. I was like, yeah, if
you could do that, I appreciate that. Thank you. So
it doesn't really seem like the whole point of me
bringing this up. It doesn't really seem like there is

(17:22):
a particular division, a wing, a section where for older
students such as myself. Okay, hey, we got you guys,
because we know you guys. You know, you don't care.
You probably aren't going to care about the games, the
football games or basketball games, you know, the student nightlife

(17:46):
and and you know, meeting for ice cream and pizza,
and you probably aren't going to care for all that.
You're probably going to be about your studies and want
to talk with like minded people, you know, people closer
to your age. We get that, and doesn't really seem
like to the point when the coordinator emailed me back,
you know, she said to me, she said, yeah, typically

(18:07):
our students are between the ages of nineteen to twenty two. Yeah,
way to rub it in, hun. I'm like, I'm thinking
of myself ahead of time. I kind of realize this.
There's no reason for you to kind of, you know,
really really rope salt on the wound there, right, But Yeah,

(18:29):
it doesn't really seem like they cater towards really trying
to help older students break in. So I say all
this to say it's been it's been difficult. The way
I try to counter it is and I'm saying all
this because I know there's people around our age, if

(18:50):
not older, that maybe have been thinking about going back
to school and they probably want to try to you know, Yeah,
how is that? You know, what's any good advice you can?
The way I've been countering all of this, it's just been, Look,
I'm here on the mission. I'm all about business. I'm
going to my classes. I'm learning what I need to learn.
I'm taking my notes, doing my studies. Like by the

(19:12):
being about the boom. I'm not there looking for friends,
you know, I'm not there looking to pussy foot around.
You know. If it's not about classes or studying somehow
making money, I ain't interested.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, you know, everybody is different depending on your social
the way you socialize. Let me say it that way.
Some people would want to possibly socialize and to get

(19:51):
a feel of a campus and get a feel of,
you know, of what's happening and kind of like a
mentor to get you into campus life. The fact that
you are more mature than some. It's an advantage and
disadvantage at the same time. Advantage because you know what

(20:15):
you want and you know what you're willing to do
to get it. Disadvantage is some people just aren't all
about the fruit through.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
They don't really care.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
But I do see as a college why they do
it because not only you know, back for us when
college was a possibility, a thought, when we first graduated
high school, we knew how to well. Socialization was much

(20:51):
different back then. Now everybody's on their phone. So I
get the fact that as a society in a college campus,
they want to make those things available to give you
give the students social skills.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
So I get that I do for you.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Here's my curiosity. Now, I know, you know, water under
the bridge at this point, but as we're really sitting
down and really discovering and not discovering and thinking about
the whole peer you know, help me get into college
life kind of thing, you know what.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Advantageous?

Speaker 4 (21:41):
You know, how would it be advantageous for you with
your mentor you know, maybe he does have a few
years or two in that particular program, so maybe that
would have been advantageous. But to not have any of
your requests honored like none, It's like, okay, so were

(22:08):
you really listening right? And most people would feel very
disheartened by that. And you know, if they would have
at least said, Okay, we can't honor this, this and this,
but we can give you this.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Maybe he's not a maybe this person isn't a female,
but they have you know, they're a junior or a
senior in your journalism program, so they have years of
experience into the journalism program that you're going into, okay,
or maybe they have one year of journalism and they're
a female. But at least if they're not going to

(22:50):
honor that, and this is something I said to Lee privately,
there should have been some form of letter or email,
not a letter email stating hey, you know, we really
tried da da da daa whatever, you know, to essentially
tell the person that they tried, tell the person that

(23:11):
they're being heard. And that's really it in a nutshell,
because your experience with this guy would probably have been
better if they would have given you a heads.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Up exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
It would have been much more receptive to the fact
if they had have given you a heads up.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So that strike one, that's all. That's all within this
week of transitioning to the big campus life. Strike two,
it looks like potentially a strike two. I during the summer.
Earlier in the summer, I signed up for this possibility
of hooking up with the social media team for my university,

(24:00):
and I was under the impression this was going to
be a paid position. I just wanted to learn more information.
That's it. When it was initially pitched to us, I'm going, Hey,
I want to know more information of the next thing.
I know, Hey, you're getting this email because you expressed
interests in joining our social media team during orientation. We're

(24:20):
going to be meeting the door, right, We're going to
be meeting blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
And I'm thinking to myself, but the way their email reads,
I'm part of the team because they're talking about, oh,
we're going to be meeting multiple times throughout the semester.
And I'm like, wait a minute, Wait a minute. I
didn't agree to So now I'm going I'm pulling a

(24:42):
Janet Jackson, you know, not necessarily. What have you done
for me lately? But how does this benefit me?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Right?

Speaker 1 (24:47):
You know, I'm like, okay, so what the hell? So
I do my research to try to find out the
person that pretty much is in charge of the program. Okay, well,
if I'm going to be working with this, is it
a case where this person has worked for many you know,
news affiliate stations, radio stations. And it's like, hey, if

(25:10):
you play your cards right, you do a pretty good job.
Maybe not only you can get a letter of recommendation
from them, but you could also pick up a really
good ally as far as eventually trying to transition into
the industry. And I find out it's it's just a kid.

(25:30):
I mean, she's got to be at least maybe. And
again when I say kid, I don't mean that to
be disrespectful, but again it's just I'm recognizing how old
I am, and I'm recognizing how young these people are.
It's another individual that's like in their early twenties, probably
most likely under twenty four And like, okay, so you
just got your degree back in like twenty twenty one,

(25:52):
twenty twenty two, so you really haven't been sticking your
toe in the water that long. Right down to the
point all you've been doing is a bunch your freelance work. Well, shit,
that's pretty much what I've been doing all these years,
except I'm pretty much in the same boat that you're in.
On top of the fact that now I have a
piece of paper saying hey, I have a degree in

(26:15):
this department, which is basically no different than what this
person is. Right, So it's one of those deals where
I'm going here. And I took TAM's advice when I
was telling her all this, because she'll tell you, I
was running around with my head cut off for like
about twenty minutes, going what the fuck, Like, why am
I getting another dookie howser motherfucker of a mentor?

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Like, I'm not asking for over a mentor.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Yeah, I got I'm getting it
mixed up. But you see how I'm connecting it back
to It's like, okay, so now we're getting another So
I said a very nice email where I basically said,
you know, hey, look, I'm honored, I appreciate the opportunity.
You tell me a little bit more. How can I

(27:02):
really benefit from this? My time is very limited, and
you know, hey, not for nothing, but I've been a
content creator since da da da da da da da da.
You know, I have a degree in media production, so like,
how will this really benefit me? You know? And like
I said to Tams, I said, look, if it's a
case where I get an email back and it says

(27:24):
all the reasons that you just highlighted, this is why
we want you because you know, we're hoping that we
can kind of lean on you to be in somewhat
of a mentor role for these younger students and help
get them, you know, where they need to be and
you know, and not for nothing, but maybe we can
help fine tune your portfolio even more, if not even

(27:46):
add more to your portfolio. So I'm looking at something
along those lines. But it just seems like there has
been a significant lack of communicating so far. It just
feels very.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Possibly because the new school year just began, so they're
probably trying to fill in all the gaps from the
fact that, you know, the school year just began. So
maybe there's that, and maybe it won't always be that way,
but for me, it's.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
You know, so very fun, very interesting and fun.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Fact. I can promise you that those younger people do
not particularly care to be called young people because when
I was in that Now here's some revelation. So when

(28:48):
I was in that age, you know, not that I
was putraining to know everything and because I know, I didn't,
but I didn't like the analogy. I didn't like being
called a younger person. Matter of fact, I despised it.

(29:09):
So I always wanted to.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Be better than my age.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
So now that I am in that other bracket, I
see where one would come from and reference to knowledge,
life experience, all of that. So basically looping it back

(29:40):
to your point of yes, they are younger, but you
don't want to also just blanketly judge a book by
its cover because you don't know what their life experiences are.
You're judging that they don't because of their.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
No, not solely on their not solely on their age.
I'm age is definitely a small factor. But when you've
taken the time out to put up a LinkedIn profile
and that lets me see in great detail what you're about,
it's like, Okay, so you know some of these people

(30:21):
so far. It's like, dude, I've done ten times more
than you have done within the past four years. What
could you possibly tell me? Right, It's like I've got
fifteen years plus over you, So what could you possibly
show me that I don't already know? Right, And it's

(30:43):
like that's where I'm coming from. So yeah, it is.
It's very nerve wrecking. But I got to tell you, guys,
I definitely feel like now that I'm at a PWI,
you know, you know, a big institution, basically, I really
feel like a small fish and a bigger pond. Whereas

(31:06):
when I was in community at community college, much more intimate,
I had such a great rapport with my professors. I
could relate to my professors and my professors could relate
to me, and that was just phenomenal, especially when it
came to letters of recommendation and all that, and like

(31:28):
here it's like almost the polar opposite.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
So agreed, agreed, Because they have a bigger mass of students,
So your general electives are going to be ridiculous as
far as trying to You're definitely going to feel like
a big a big.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Pond and you being the little fish.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yet but in.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Your specialties, you're probably not going to have as many
students as you would in your general electives class.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
So but that just means.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
As as how hard is that can be in a
massive college. You're just gonna have to find your niches
to stand out, build a rapport with your professors.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, you know, well I tell you this. Well, I
tell you this. One of my professors I made quite
the impact on him. It was my professor in my
literature and journalism class. And I just loosely through out
podcast and he was like, wait a minute, so what
do you talk about on your podcast? How long you've
been doing And I told him, and then that piqued

(32:47):
his interest because apparently he used to be a big
wrestling fan.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Oh shit, and the yeah, there you go, there's a need.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
And then and then, and then I was prepared for
the reviews because he's very polar rising when it comes
to him sharing his thoughts on politics. And then he goes,
I want to ask you a question. He asked me
this question in front of the class. I'm like, go ahead, professor,
and he goes, is it really true that there are
a lot of wrestlers that are Republican? And I was like,

(33:19):
oh man, I was not, man, yo. I was not
prepared for that question. But I pulled a hawk hole again.
I fucking no sold that fucking question. I fucking so basically,
you gave him information and oh I gave him his answer,

(33:40):
but I was just saying, like to anybody else, they
would have been stomped. But for me, it was like
if you could just look at my facial expression, you
know it was I shocked, yes, but you wouldn't know
it reading my face because I just fucking know so
that shit like the hawkster. And I told the truth,

(34:00):
I said, professor, honestly, I say, you would be surprised
how many wrestlers are Republican versus the amount of wrestling
fans that are democrat And he was like yeah, and
he was like really, I was like yeah, He's like,
we got to talk more about this. He was like,
I don't know if we can do it after class
or just sometime you're out the semesteries like I want

(34:22):
to talk to you more about this. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
So it's like, that is guys, your niche. That is
how you make an impression.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
That is how you get noticed, right, and when you
get noticed, they take Don't get me wrong that they
don't take interest in you, but when you have some
type of in with a professor.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Even if it's you taking a couple.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Of minutes, especially as an older student, guys, you know,
take a couple of minutes, because here's the thing. That's
how you develop a or poor and that is what
can get you opening doors. That is what can get
you letters of recommendation, that because then they know what

(35:10):
they're Oh yeah, that's the podcast for wrestling yep, and
then it all connects back. So take note even as
a younger person in a bigger college, you know, I
mean a lot of the youngers are like, you know,

(35:31):
I just want to get in and get out. Totally
respect that. But it also is the different ways that you.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Make you make.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
You make things a little bit more fun, you know.
I mean, you got to find something that essentially keeps
you coming back besides the fact that you've got to
be there, you know, make it more fun, make it
more interesting, you know, make it something you want to
go back to because you have to be there for
whatever said amount of time.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
And you know, once you do that, then then.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
It's a really it's really easier to go through your classes.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, for sure. Speaking of rustling, talk how about that
a j Lee return? How about that aj Lee return?
I was kicking back. I was watching SmackDown, and it's
funny because I came in Friday and I was pretty
exhausted because I actually that's the other thing that's been

(36:37):
kind of cool about about going back and you know,
doing this whole new round of classes because like every
single day I have a class Monday through Friday. Weekends
I don't have any classes, not going wood luckily, but
my classes during the week it's a lot, particularly Tuesdays.

(37:00):
Tuesdays are my longest, my longest days because I'm not
getting out until like six thirty, six thirty in the
evening basically. But Friday, I came in because what I
was trying to say before all that it's been kind
of cool because I've been going to bid much earlier,

(37:24):
but I've been waking up like around five six o'clock
in the morning, and there's been some mornings where I
can't go back to sleep, so I just stay up
catching up on some studying, even though I might have
did it the day before or you know, day before that.
But it's been kind of interesting just trying to find

(37:46):
that right balance and everything. I'll take it for what
it's worth because TAM's will tell you, like, you know,
since we've been together, I've always been a night out,
and to a certain extent, I'm still a night out,
just not as much as I would I won't say
not as much as I would like to be, but
I will say not as much as I normally I

(38:09):
normally tend to be. I'm just wired that way. But Friday,
I came in after classes. I decided to take a
little nap and then I wake up like right before
SmackDown was supposed to come on, and I said, nah,
let me just sleep a little bit longer. I just
I'm burned out, man. So then I wake up around

(38:32):
nine thirty and I go, oh shit, like, well, I
guess I can fast forward through. And I just found
myself staying on most of SmackDown. I rewinded, was watching
it from the beginning, and I'm like, Okay, this is good.
This is good. This is good. Okay, cool watch some
of the matches and everything. But then we got down

(38:52):
to aj Lee and how her whole return was set up.
I love seeing Becky Lynch kind of following up on
what she did with Punk on Monday, bitch slapping him
some more, and you got seth rawlins in his little
vip box just all that good ship. AJ looked great, man,

(39:17):
she looked great coming out there, thirty eight years old.
You know she has aged gracefully.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
She really has.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, she really has.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
She has. She hasn't changed that much.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
No, maybe a little more defined body wise, she's she's
she's a.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Little more shredded, but as far as yes, she's definitely
more shredded for sure, but face wise, maybe not not
as defined. Like you know, things are like evening out,
if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Toned, Yeah, Toned, what are you looking for?

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Because I mean basically, as we age, everything just kind
of seems to flow, and it's not these hard cheek
lines and this this and that, and it just kind
of flows.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
And I know you're looking at me like I don't
know what.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
The hell you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
So I'm going to keep it.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
As you know, she hasn't changed very much, and I
think she actually looks just as good as she did
ten years ago in a different way. So, and she
definitely is more shredded for sure.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
It was so.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Funny because you know, whatever you search on on social media,
they just give you more of not search whatever whatever
you're keeps your tension and keeps you watching, They just
give you more of And for me, I was watching
something and then all of a sudden, I see one
of the one of the episodes of I guess it

(41:00):
was Raw SmackDown.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
I don't remember which one.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
But it was one of the ones where Punk was like, so,
so you are just really crazy, and I remember seeing
that in real time, going oh, because I actually really
did enjoy the story story arc between Punk and AJ
when they first kind of got together.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
So it was kind of fun going back down memory lane.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
But but the issue at hand, and reference to her
coming back, it's amazing she is. I saw tidbits of her. Actually, no,
I saw the whole spot, the whole segment.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, okay, and man.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
She she came up there with force, and it was
really good to see. And and the look on Seth
Rollin's face after he realized that that wasn't a work,
it was like, oh shit, that's not good.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Isn't it amazing? How Seth Rawlins these past handful of
years has been like at the center point of some
of the most iconic returns. I mean, he was at
the center point for Seth, he was at the center
point for Cody Rhodes. He was at the center point

(42:23):
for CM Punk. You know, now he's the center point
for aj Lee.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
It's just amazing how he's been plugged into these iconic moments,
and you're like, damn, you know, Rollins, Rollins got the
nice seat. He's got the best seat in the house
seeing all this shit go down. So yeah, I mean,
and apparently we've learned now that aj Lee has signed

(42:53):
a multi.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Year deal, I make a three year contract.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I don't want to even speculate on the multi year.
Let's just leave it a multi year. Like that's great.
That's great, you know, because it's nice to know that
it's not going to be a case where she's just
showing up for one match and I gotta commend See,
I'm Punk, because I would imagine that he was the

(43:17):
main launch pad. I would not be surprised Dave AJM
Punk when the opportunity presented itself for Punk to go
back to the WWE. I wouldn't be surprised Dave aj
had said to him, Hey, look, you got this great opportunity,
not for nothing. You toyed around with the idea. You
came pretty close years prior before aw was even a

(43:39):
thing and going back to WWE, things didn't fall through. Yeah,
go back, see what happens. Worst case scenario. You're not
feeling it, but at least you get in your career
on the note that you want keep me in the loop.
And I'm sure that he was reporting back to her,
you know everything, And isn't it interesting? However, isn't it

(44:02):
interesting that? And I don't think I don't think it's
related to one another, but is it interesting that no
more carrying cross and scarlet? Isn't that interesting?

Speaker 4 (44:18):
I thought that, you know, The funny thing is, I
actually thought that at some point yesterday I said, I
bet you that there was something in the work. This
is my own speculation, guys, not fact that there's something
in the work in reference to maybe they freed up
some capital, because you know, to do that. And it

(44:45):
was so funny because Naomi posted on her social media
account that basically was very excited that aj was back
and basically said, now you're bringing some town basically, you know,
and it's like, you know, everybody else in the bag.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
You could just throw them in the hallway.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Damn. It's like how you really feel, Naomi?

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Oh, no, Naomi to tell everybody how she really fell.
In reference to aj being back but super excited. I
always really enjoyed her stuff and was, you know, seeing
some of the moves and was like, yeah, I don't
think she's lost a step.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Yeah. Yeah. Let me ask you something. There's these viral
videos that's running around of grown ass adults and that's
just screaming to the top of their lungs and doing
backflips and all kinds of shit, high five in each
other like they won the Super Bowl seeing aj Lee return.
Are you buying these videos or do you think these

(45:54):
are people looking for viral moments? Because I gotta admit
to you, when I saw the moment like a viral
moment to me, because when I saw the moment go down,
you know, even though I was a couple of little actually,
you know what, I'm trying to think what happened by
the time I got to the AJ segment. I think
by the time I got to the AJ segment, SmackDown
had been officially off the air for about five minutes,

(46:15):
so I had like, so I definitely had like about
a five minute delay. But as I'm playing it in
real time, I'm nodding.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
I have.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
I could feel my my smile ear to ear. You know,
it's on my face. I'm grinning from ear to ear.
I'm not in my head, she comes out. I'm really
not in my head. I'm doing a little fist pump,
you know, a little quiet fist pump like that Michael Jordan.
You know when he hits that that three pointer, he
clutches that fist. He goes, yes, you know, I'm doing

(46:49):
it like that. And I'm just going like, really, guys,
you're doing these videos that are conveniently on you and
you're you know, I watched one guy. I mean he
had a one thick ass beard.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
I wouldn't even want to speculate how old this guy was,
but you know, he looked like he was probably in
his thirties. And I mean he just jumps up pants
don't fell off his damn ankles, and he's screaming to
the top of his lungs. His hands are all in
the air and he's oh my god, oh my god, hey,
j oh my god, oh my god. I mean he's

(47:32):
screaming to the top of his lungs, and I'm just going,
surely this is just like somebody's trying to look for
a viral moment. Somebody's hoping that their piece could be
included with WWE.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
I really do have the consensus that there was definitely
there's definitely excitement, definitely excitement that she's back. I don't
necessarily get the.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Back flips and high fives, and.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
I think more and more and more that's that fifteen
minute clickbait.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Let me ask you something. Vince Russo has been really
coming down hard on Triple H and w w E
as of late. He's saying that Triple H when it
comes to character development, when it comes to storylines, Triple
H is lacking in those respected departments. But when it
comes to being the king of pop, making the crowds pop,

(48:41):
giving them moments to pop for, Triple H is now
the king of pops. I see what he's doing there.
He's no longer the king of kings, He's the king
of pop. How do you How does that make you
feel when you hear Vince Russo saying that, I mean,
I know you're a casual I know you're a casual viewer, but.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
I say a little bit more than a casual viewer.
But yeah, so I get where he's coming from. Actually
because as you generally, as you would think about it,
does any of your newer stars pop like that? That's

(49:26):
that's a character development. Hell let's let's let's take it
back to what we just talked about.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Carrying Cross. He was doing his own ship.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah, and getting the crowd over and getting the crowd over. Yeah,
And wasn't wasn't wwe part of it might have been,
but not like that.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
But you didn't hone in on that. You didn't.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
You didn't take that, you know, bull by the horn,
so to speak, and develop that. But yet you are
essentially going back to what's going to get the crowd
going bananas? Oh, okay, you bring seam pump back. Okay,
you bring John Cena's last you know, last tour, You

(50:14):
bring Goldberg, Goldberg, you bring you know, Rock Lesner. You know,
all of these are pops, but all of these are
also guys. They're old heads. I mean not to not
to say they can't still do it, not at all,
because they can.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
You bring back Nicki Bellley, you bring back.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
So you're bringing back what's working or what worked for
the pop.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Now.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
But nowhere in there, I mean, half of your matches
are old heads. Maybe even forty five, maybe even seventy.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Five percent of those.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
The only person that really as far as character development,
that's getting something is Logan Paul.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
And you could even go with.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Okay, dominic material, but shit, he's got a you know,
a father who's probably helping him with that to an extent.
But I do agree with that though, I really do
that he developing a new character to essentially because what

(51:30):
you know, you're going to have to do it at
some point, guys, because essentially some of these people are
going to be retired in the next couple of years.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Well, let me be Devil's advocate. Then, let me be
Devil's advocate. To this point that Vince Rousseau is painting,
what do you say to the long term storytelling that's
been happening there with Judgment Day, where it seems as
though Finn Balor has been all about absolute power, absolute control,

(51:59):
and and it seems as though just when he thought
he finally had Judgment Day all to himself and he
can pretty much have everybody lined up behind him taking
his command and all of that, we see Dominic Mysterio
essentially rise through the ranks and he's essentially kind of

(52:20):
giving him a run for his money. And you've got
this great long term storytelling that's been going on where
you can feel the tension between Balor and not so
much Dominic Mysterio, because Dominic is kind of, hey, don't
worry about it. I got this under control, and Balor's

(52:42):
kind of under the impression, no, no, no, you need
to be running everything by me, you know, you know,
you know, Baalor talks a good game about it being
a team effort, but it's clear as day that Balor
is all about individuality, right, And like week after week

(53:02):
you see these little nuances of breadcrumbs where Balor is
just irked off by something Dominic Mysterio has done without
running it by him. And so you're seeing this amount
away that as far as the long term storytelling, something's
going to implode there, okay. And then you look at

(53:23):
the long term storytelling that's been going on with the
street Profits, it finally seems as though maybe it's kind
of reached the boiling point where this past Friday SmackDown
BFAB gets in the middle of Montese Ford and Angelo Dawkins.
She's trying to calm them down, you know, basically follows
up on something that I'm trying to figure out. Who

(53:47):
is the wrestler that had crossed pass Wyatt six White
six is bo Dallas? You know, basically kind of really
got the wheels in motion. Even though long term storytelling wise,
the seeds have been planted with street profits for many, many,

(54:07):
many months. We see what's going on with Bailey and
this whole you know, split personality, and it's so funny.
I had said a couple of weeks ago on the show.
I said, I'm very intrigued by this, but WWE needs
to be very delicate about this because you know, in

(54:28):
real life people are dealing with these kind of disorders.
And you know what I was told by somebody online.
I was told to shut the fuck up. It's wrestling,
And I'm thinking to myself, Wow, and I'm thinking to myself,
no shit, Sherlock number number one and then number two.

(54:48):
I'm going you know, there is such thing as too
real for TV, too real for TV, and it being
you know, it hitting a little bit too close to
home and people feeling like you're just exploiting this for
profit for viewership when there's a more bigger importance. Some
people would be made to feel that way, right, and

(55:10):
so and I know you know, and I didn't delete
my tweet. I clear as day I said, I'm very
intrigued by it. I want to see more that development.
Ww's kind of riding the fine line here. They got
to be They gotta be careful with the story that
they're trying to tell. I like what they're doing with
the Bailey character so far, they've been doing these little

(55:31):
vignette teases. So you got that that's going on. You
have this long withstanding just a phenomenal long playoff storytelling
between CM Punk and SETH rawlins right right down to
the point when you go back several months prior. Aj

(55:53):
Lee's return was teased as far back as like March
of this year. Shit, but it might have been further
than that. But that's beyond the point when you really
take a step back and you think about the whole
notion of well, Triple H doesn't know how to tell
long term storytelling. I just gave you some prime examples

(56:18):
of Triple H and his team long play storytelling and
character development. That's true.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
So maybe what he's trying to say, and I don't know,
I'm not defending what he's saying but maybe it's the
character development isn't quite as expedited.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
As he would like.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
But if we're really going back and actually, you know,
as you were talking, I'm thinking, well as but far
back as the Shield guys, you know, especially right as
you know, the Shield was kind of disbanding a bit,
and I remember saying to you, why is it that

(57:03):
they're just throwing Roman Reigns into our face? And it's
so funny to see that then and to see it
now and the full development and changes that have happened
to going from the loud boom you know, the loud

(57:25):
booze and get that shut out of here to the.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Tribal jeef you know kind of thing. So that is
probably your.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
One of your you know, top things as far as
long character development and storytelling.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yeah, but to be Devil's advocate, you can look at
Roman Reigns and say, no, no, no, no, no, that's
a Vince mcmn guy. That's a Vince mc man project.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Okay, Well, I kept always hearing that you would say,
you know, Triple Ah just trying to mold him.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
So no, you never heard me say Triple h is
trying to mold him. That's somebody else that's saying that
you've never heard me say that. No, it's clear as
day if you really take a step back, it's clear
as day if you were to go okay for the
next ten years. Who is Triple H's army, Who are

(58:20):
officially his guys, Bronson Reid, bron Breaker, Tiffany Stratton, Bianca
bel Air. If she can get her shit together and
really start developing serious character, I think Lyra Valkeria definitely

(58:42):
offers something very promising. Verdict is still out on Jade Cargill.
Seemed as though Naomi was really starting to turn a
good corner there for the better, and I definitely would
like to see her pick up from where she left off.

(59:04):
Looking at other stars, I have not given up hope
on Carmel o'hayes, the current NFC champion in Oba Femi.
There are talents. Those are just some names that come
to my head off to break. I don't want anybody
to go, well, Lee, what about But if you really

(59:24):
quietly just think to yourself as far as the next
ten years, there's definitely talents that you go, Yeah, there's
no reason why this cat should not be a household name.
As far as the whole Triple H. As far as
the whole Triple H, you know, I know, to a

(59:45):
certain degree, Triple H saw a lot of a lot
of good things in Seth Rollins, and he was one
of the most vocal people advocating for Seth Rollins, you know,
And so that is definitely a shared you know, that's
a shared with Vince McMahon. That's a Vince McMahon Triple

(01:00:08):
H project and all that. But I just thought it
was interesting what Vince Russo had to say because it
just made me question if he was going more for
clickbaits social media engagement or if he actually was bringing
up a very valid point.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
It's just kind of one of those I don't know.
I just thought it was interesting to kind of bring up.
Speaking of clickbaits, Wade Barrett shout out to him. He
had to do some damage control over the weekend. And
Wade Barrett situation is a perfect example of why I
always tell you guys, wait until more information comes out.

(01:00:50):
So Mike Johnson and crew of p W Insider, they
put out this post and I'm paraphrasing it, basically said
that Wade it was going to be off the road
for the foreseeable future, as Michael Cole and Corey Graves
were going to be teaming up to be the commentary
team for Raw and SmackDown, And the report will go

(01:01:14):
on to say that Wade bar it as far as
his status goes with the company, if he was fired
or they didn't even mention any of that. All they
basically said was Wade Barrett is not going to be
on commentary for the foreseeable future. Okay, That's all they said.

(01:01:34):
So you had the regurgitating websites as I like to
call them. They basically jumped out there and they made
matter of fact news that Wade Barrett and his comments
on Nicki Bella, which I'll talk more about on Monday show.

(01:01:57):
You know that basically came back to bite him any
and WW essentially is retaliating. I'm reading all of this.
Notice when you go and you look at my social
media feeds, people I never commented on this. I never did.
I was probably the one person of quite a few
people that did not say anything about this, and that

(01:02:20):
was on purpose because I'm reading this and I'm going no, like,
there's no reason why because of whatever Wade Barrett said
about Nikki Bella, Like, first of all, he's a heel commentator.
He's got to do what he can to sell the angle,
sell the match. Now I'm not buying that. And then

(01:02:42):
I'm going, well, not for nothing. But maybe Wade Barrett
had always this certain block of time put to the side.
Maybe he's doing something with the family, maybe it's vacation time,
or you know, maybe he's dealing with something personal and
this was already worked out weeks prior. I'm thinking to myself, No,

(01:03:02):
there's people are guessing here, even the folks over at
p W Insider. Even if they have part of the story, right,
I don't think they have the complete story. So you
got a lot of regurgitating websites. It eventually turns into
you know, Wade Barrett has been fired, He's been demoted
and all this other shit, and Wade Barrett had to

(01:03:25):
put out a statement basically saying, no, I'm just going
to be off the road for the next three weeks.
This was something that I had worked out with the
company many months prior. I'll be back before you know it.
But yeah, that's what's going on. Like I shouldn't even
have to address this report because he ended up quote

(01:03:46):
tweeting p w insider, the guys that pretty much got
this all started. And then you got Mike Johnson going, well,
we didn't say any such thing. You know, we just
basically said that he was going to be off the
road for a little bit. Uh, you know, we don't
do that clickbait bullshit, says the website. Where as soon
as you go on there you get these weird fucking

(01:04:08):
trojan pop ups. Wow, every time I go on pw
Insider's website, it just you know, you're like checking yourself
your computer. You just can't help them make sure that
your shit is okay. And so, like, what I don't
understand is, well, pw insider, you had this shit behind
a paywall. Wow, you had this behind a paywall, and

(01:04:32):
apparently people did quote it right. Okay, people did quote
it right. So what do you mean that your ship
was taken out of context?

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
That's them doing damage control.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
That's that's what it sounds like to me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
But for me, it's it's it's really kind of annoying
that people want to be first versus being right right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
They want the clickbait.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
They wanted this, and then unfortunately to have someone's life
to where you're basically, you know, saying that this is
what happened, and it's not even you and you don't
even barely know what happened because it's just segments of
the story.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
I don't know, man, It's it's really really it's really
really weird as far as I'm concerned, it really is
because it's like, guys, did we not learn from what.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Happened with the WWEESPN news? Did we not learn from that?
Because that was a prime example of here's what happens
when you try to be first exactly and it's a
ever developing story and you look at what happened here
with Wade bear it right. I mean, there were so

(01:06:02):
many people, the amount of people that were going, oh man,
that's fucked up. Wade Barrier is such a good commentator.
He doesn't deserve this shit to happen to him. This
is so fucked up, this is so wrong. And I'm going,
but WWE hasn't even really yet, right, they haven't even
said this guy, we wish him the best in his future. Endevers.

(01:06:24):
His profile wasn't removed from the website or nothing like that.
He wasn't moved to the alumni section, I'm like, wait
a minute, what the hell right? And so it was
obvious that if people just kicked back and not.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
You know, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Interesting because one of my classes deals with the one
of my journalism classes deals with understanding the laws and
structure and the responsibility that journalists have in reporting, and
how we went through where we're about to go into

(01:07:03):
instances where media got it right with their reporting, and
we're also going to go over examples on how media
got it wrong and their reporting and everything. And you know,
when I see this wade very thing, it's just really
a prime example of waiting until more information comes out.

(01:07:27):
I don't mind Don't get me wrong, people, I don't
mind it if we're gonna speculate. So as long as
we say a fraud, that we're speculating that this is
an opinion piece, right right, and then it's like what
do you guys think?

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
And then we just open it up, you know, we
open it up for a discussion. Now, I don't mind
it if we operate from that standpoint. If we operate
from that standpoint, then cool. But when we're reporting on
that opinion and or that speculation as a matter of fact,

(01:08:06):
that's where the lines they aren't being blurred. You're basically saying,
fuck this, and you're turning something that's not news into news,
and that is just wrong on so many levels. Speaking
of which, and this might be a hard transition for

(01:08:27):
some people, but it's totally it's totally related. Here in
the nation's capital of Washington, d C. We had the murder,
tragic murder of this nineteen year old girl named Dereka Thompson.
And I don't know for you guys in your respected

(01:08:49):
neck of the woods, you all maybe have not heard
of this story just yet. And if you haven't, it's okay.
We'll get you called up to speed on the bullet points.
But it's a very heartbreaking story. Let me tell you.
So the way this story and then this connects very
well to what we were just talking about with Wade

(01:09:09):
Barrett and all that, so follow us. So, this nineteen
year old girl, she told her father, you know, hey dad,
because she was living with her dad. She's like, hey Dad,
I'm gonna go get some gas, but I'll be right back.
And this is out in Prince George's County, Maryland. I

(01:09:34):
forgot exactly what part, but she and this happened back
August twenty second. August twenty second, you know, I'm gonna
go get some gas. I'll be right back. So she
goes and everything. Next thing you know, she never returned home.

(01:09:54):
Her family reported her missing to Prince George's County Police
the very next day, and then it took like about
two weeks give or take, until a body was found
in a grassy area off Route fifty and a Arundel County, Maryland.

(01:10:15):
Turns out that was her body surveillance footage because police
went back and they checked it out. Police surveillance surveillance
footage showed that Thompson had approached a black SUV in
the early morning of August twenty third, and then got

(01:10:38):
inside that vehicle after speaking to the driver. So when
you look at the map, you can see from where
this girl was picked up from. Sorry about that. From
where this girl? What the hell? So from where this
girl was picked up, she basically was picked up just

(01:11:01):
off of like University Boulevard and College Park, Maryland. And
if I remember it right, she essentially was taken out
to the Bowie area. So it was definitely it was
a good little hike. Yeah, she was picked up I'm
looking at the map right now. She was picked up

(01:11:23):
from the she was picked up from the twelve hundred
block of it looks like Kembridge Drive out in Hyesville, Maryland.
And she was taken to a home off the seven
thousand block of Riggs Road out in Bowie, Maryland.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
So that's that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
That's a hell of a stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Even at that time of night. It's a good thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Minute, right, That's a hell of a stretch, okay. And
this was a thirty five year old man, thirty five
year old man by the name of Hugo Hernandez Mendez,
thirty five years old. Okay. According to Hugo's neighbor, not

(01:12:18):
his neighbor, but his roommate. His roommate woke up at
like I think it was five o'clock in the morning
and her sexual activity that was going on in Hugo's room,
and from what he was able.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
To hear.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
The woman whoever was in there, because the roommate did
not identify, oh it was Derek, but he did say, hey,
I did hear sexual activities going on, and it sounds
like the woman really wasn't feeling she wasn't feeling it
seemed like she wasn't really having fun. But from what
the police were able to determine later on, Hugo killed

(01:12:56):
this woman and Bridge well we already mentioned that, but
as far as where he killed her, oh, blood and
all that was found of Derek in the bedroom. Yes,
so you know, you hear this tragic story and you're going,
what the fuck? But wait, it gets worse. It turns

(01:13:18):
out Hugo is a illegal citizen. You're like, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait wait what this guy actually got in trouble
with the law. What was it a while back? And somehow,

(01:13:44):
somehow this man I'm trying to find that part. Yeah,
Prince George's County officials said the US Park Police arrested
him for a DUI back in April, but let him
go pending trial. I don't know how to hell. Your

(01:14:05):
guess is as good as my people, but I just
look at that and I'm going, what the hell. But originally,
Hugo told the police he was at a nightclub to
meet his ex, but never did, denied involvement in the killing,
and then asked to get a lawyer. According to charging documents,

(01:14:26):
police found multiple pairs of women's underwear, blood, a wig,
and one of Thompson's fingernails during a search warrant of
Hernandez Mendez's home. And apparently he worked for a landscape company.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Yeah, I figured due to the.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Shirt that they pictured him in and looks like one
of those construction or landscaping people.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Now let's loop this back really good to the Wade
Barrett situation and waiting until more information comes out. Now,
me and Tams when we were, you know, because we've
been on top of this story like all week, because
believe it or not, it's been a very sad, tragic
story that's been in circulation here, you know, in the

(01:15:15):
DMV region. Do you see Maryland Virginia region And it's
got like everybody talking over here and me and TAM's
right when they had announced they arrested this piece of garbage.
I said to Tams, I said, look, nobody else is
really mentioning this. As we got Wes Maryland Governor Wes

(01:15:40):
Moore and other people. This was a beautiful girl, a
beautiful young young girl, bright career, and you learn what
you learn about her and you're like, wow, it seems
like she really has a good hit on her shoulders,
and but me and Tams like me, particularly the way
my brain is wired. I'm going, can we ask the

(01:16:01):
questions that's not being asked, which is what is this
nineteen year old girl doing talking to this thirty five
year old guy who when you see his mugshot, he
is ugly looking as hell. Yeah, I don't know if
Dereka did that to his face, right, I don't know
if Dereka did that to that side of his face
or if it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Was already like that before much more fresh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Okay, So so it was already there. Okay. So it's like,
why is Dereka even why is she interacting with this man?
Because you look at her and then you look at him,
and it's like you don't quite understand the correlation there.
You don't quite understand the connection. Did they have some
type of a prior relationship? Was this a case where

(01:16:47):
he did some type of work somewhere near her job
or wherever? And there's that rapport there, because why else
would she abandon her cell phone, her vehicle at like
two three o'clock in the morning to get in this
guy's car. Something isn't quite adding up here, you know,

(01:17:13):
it doesn't quite make any sense. And then the other
question that I have that hasn't been really spoken publicly yet.
I've probably seen only two people two people that have
have said what I'm getting ready to say, which is,

(01:17:36):
was this young woman potentially a call girl? I saw
two other people online say so, what was she a prostitute?
What's going on here? Right? And so? And I totally
understand why people would think that way, because they're literally going,

(01:17:57):
look at him, look at her, two three o'clock in
the morning. Why is she leaving her phone in her car.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
In her car and leaving her car.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
And leaving her car in this guy's car right at
that time of at that time of night. Right, Because
that nothing, nothing else to me makes sense, right besides that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
It doesn't, It doesn't. And so those are the questions
that right, And it's okay to speculate, Remember what I'm
saying earlier, It's okay to speculate. It's okay to Hey,
this is my opinion, so as long as you let
it be known. Hey, I'm only speculating here, I'm only
giving a opinion. But optics wise, this does not look

(01:18:48):
good whatsoever. Now, that's not my way of saying Dereka
had this coming to her. No, what what I suspect happened.
You know me, guys, I'm usually a really good judge
of character. I usually am able to use street sense,

(01:19:08):
common sense, and you know, usually what I tell you guys,
ninety nine point nine percent of the time it's dead accurate.
And when I'm wrong, I am unlike other people. I'm
willing to well, hey, I got it wrong. Here's what
actually happened. And a good example of ninety nine point

(01:19:28):
nine percent of the time I'm right about something spot on.
Look at what I talked about, what I went down
with Leon Harris. Look at that. Oh my god. I
was vilified left and right by. You know, there were
a decent amount of people that agreed that with me,
that something was going on. Hopefully he didn't relapse. But
then you had others that were like, you're wrong. You know,

(01:19:49):
why are you cutting this black man down? And it's like,
why are we bringing racing to it? Like race has nothing.
It could be a white person or Hispanic person that
essentially is cout and off drunk on on on local
TV news like I'm gonna be saying the same damn thing.
But like, oh, need does same energy when you're wrong

(01:20:10):
about Leon Harris and then what happens out of his
own out of his own words, he admits that he
had a few drinks before going live on the air
and the same people that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
And he's later gone on to say that he he
never realized that he didn't have it handled.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Right and this wasn't you know.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
The way he omitted it makes one believe that that
was definitely not the first time. And to be honest
with you, it wasn't because for me, there were signs.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
I was just like, he's kind of stuttering, a little
bit tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
But right, but not to get but not to get
off track the most important thing when it mattered the most,
and it was or need that same energy when when
when you're proving you're wrong, it's like, well to shay,
but that goes both ways. How about you giving that
that didn't happen. I've yet to see one person say

(01:21:09):
to me, yo, Lee, you were right, man, you you
know right. I believe I believe that this young girl
was in some form of prostitution and I'm not judging her,

(01:21:30):
and I don't think any anybody should be judging her. Look,
you do what you got to do to pay the bills.
Whether you're doing something or only fans or Patreon or whatever,
you do what you gotta do to make ends meet.
And if that was part of you'd be surprised how

(01:21:52):
many students are doing what they need to do to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
They need to make fast more and they need to
make a.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Lot of it, and they need to make a lot
of it because they're trying to get themselves through school
and or there's a certain lifestyle that they're trying to maintain.
You know, I hear you guys when you say, yeah,
but there's other you know, well, for some people, they
don't want to just do the nine to five job.

(01:22:23):
For some people, you know, it's well, if I don't
have to do the nine to five job and I
can just do this instead, then I'd rather do this.
Or if it's the case where okay, I'll do this
nine to five job, but you know that's not always
going to be an untapped source of income. Eventually, I'm
going to get tapped out at you know, twenty hours
or you know what have you. You know, I need

(01:22:46):
money like yesterday, then they're going to be moon lighting
doing whatever whatever that means. Stripping or you know, so
understand something I nor TAM's. Yeah, we're speculating. You know,
if it turns out we're wrong. With God, we hope
we're wrong, because there's no other Like, because I want

(01:23:08):
to hear with the phone records and all that, that's
because that's what I'm waiting on. I'm waiting to hear. Okay,
phone records. You know it shows that you know, she
had a profile up on this escort website or she like,
I'm waiting because like something just it doesn't compute.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Well, it's kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Seriously to your point, think back to you, think back
to you and your girlfriends. Okay, like, would you all
ever get in a thirty five plus year old man's
call in the morning and I didn't know, hell even
if it was two in the afternoon. No, not unless

(01:23:49):
it was like some type of a transaction. Maybe yes, Okay,
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
I mean, but.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
To essentially go by, you can tell that she has
texted her father, So where are the text from this guy?
Because if you're doing something like this, you've got to
have some type of text.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Messages that he's on his way. He's I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Jesus Christ, you know, Lee over here tortures me with
fucking Catch a Predator, and you know the text messages
and all of that. He's smirking, guys, he's and he does.
He really does torture me with this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Because you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
And I want to tell you this, and it's very important,
make sure you subscribe so you see all our episodes
here on True Blue. What's what's the new name of
the show?

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
What's new?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
What's the name of the new show? It's not Hansoon
Versus Predator? What's what's take Down with Chris Hansen? Take Down?
I love that show take Down AnyWho.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
But but the point is, there are chat logs of conversations,
So why aren't they mentioning this yet, Because you know
there's something you don't just essentially parking a random ass
spot and a random ass you know, su black SUV

(01:25:22):
just comes rolling out and then you decide, oh, well,
since he's he, since something's coming through.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Well, first of all, one's got to slow down for
you to even talk to him, and then.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
The other person, you know, has to get out the
car and so on and so forth. So at some point,
through some way they've had to communicate before that night.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
You're thinking before that night, well before the action.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Essentially, at some point during that day, they should have
communicated something.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
So you're thinking, okay, so forward to record with the record.
You're speculating as far as your opinion, You're you're under
the assumption that when she said, when Derek ha said
to her father, hey, I'm going now get some gas.
I'll be right back, you're thinking that beforehand, she probably

(01:26:18):
did something on whatever website that she's in escort on
some guy. Hey I'm interested da da da da da,
Hey let's meet at and then something else we have
to keep keep.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
Yeah, maybe she left that phone there because she had
another phone for her escort service, right that essentially maybe
nobody has found yet.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Well, you know, I'll see you on all of those points,
and I'll raise you. I don't know if I said
it to you in the text message, but you know,
I wouldn't be surprised if also this creep had said
to her, hey, look, she for all we know, she
maybe wanted to just do it in the car, and

(01:27:10):
he probably said to her, hey, look, i'll give you
one hundred something dollars right now, and good faith, right now,
I'll give you one hundred fifty dollars right now in
good faith. But let's go back to my place because
it's much more convenient. Da da da da da da.
We can do what we need to do over there, right,

(01:27:31):
we could do what we need to do over there,
and then I'll actually drive you back. And I honestly
believe that, I honestly believe that's what had happened. I
also believe that she hadn't been escorting that long. I'm
under the impression that nineteen years old, I wouldn't be

(01:27:55):
surprised if maybe she'd only been doing it for about
a year, maybe two years, and I'd be shocked to
hear she was doing stuff as young as sixteen. I'd
be really shocked.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
I think she definitely is is new to that that game,
and possibly some of the safeguards she didn't know about, right,
you know, because she's doing she's doing it on her own,
and she's not about to tell her father what she's
going to go do. Thus why she made the excuse

(01:28:27):
at some for some random reason at two three o'clock
in the morning, I gotta go get gash.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
Yeah, you know, as a not that I am a
parent guys. But as someone who's had younger kids, you
know that I've been around, I would have been like,
you going where?

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Why in that neighborhood?

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Yeah? Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
So you know, guys, basically, as you know, guardians or
parents or whatever have you question, question, ask. You know,
maybe if the dad said, let me go with you,
then you know what, maybe that poor girl would have
sent him in life. Yeah, then she would have had

(01:29:19):
to call off for the whole thing. Yeah, you know, now,
grant you. You know, people do what they have to do,
and they say what they have to say, but ask questions,
poke holes in the story. Okay, so what are you
really doing? Because I guarantee you that if someone would

(01:29:39):
have known, even if it was a good girlfriend, somebody
would have been like this girl said she was going
out with this dude at this point and it's been
faux hours and her ass ain't back. So basically, in
reference to ask questions, put in safeguards, you know, keep
yourself safe.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
If you've got to do that, keep yourself safe.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
That is the most important because, as someone once said
to me, it's going to be a real sad day
when you're not coming home or you can't explain to
a said person and they're going.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
To miss you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
I'll see you on those points, and I want to
raise it. I want to raise it. If there is
somebody you know that is escorting. I cannot stress it enough.
I mean, look, obviously they're going to continue to be
in that lifestyle until they just got to come to

(01:30:42):
their own conclusion. They don't want to be involved in
that industry anymore, Yep, they want something different. So the
best thing that you can do is, especially if you
if your friendship means that much, right, your friendship with them,
if it means that much, then the best thing you

(01:31:03):
can do is continue to support them while trying to
encourage them to stop and transition into something else. But
learn from this example and make sure the TAM's point,
you know the safeguards, you know who, what, when, where, how? Why?
Make sure you have all of those covered. Normally there

(01:31:27):
is some type of a girlfriend's system. Normally there's some
type of a boyfriend or a husband in the picture
that knows what's going on and isn't that far away.
One should not be doing that type of work by
themselves and not have that line of communication open to

(01:31:49):
where something weird happens like, okay, well this one other
person knows for sure what's going on. You know, it's heartbreaking.
I really hope that I'm wrong. Again, it's okay for
us to speculate and give a personal opinion, which is
what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
But either way then not just you know, makes it
even It makes it even more of a fucked up thing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
If we're wrong, It makes it even more fucked up.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
Than us speculating that that's what this is. But you know,
doubling down, just very very briefly, I only bring this
up because it actually pertains to myself and Lee.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
So I promise you that every single time.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
When we were talking or going out or whatever, my
best friend knew where I was, knew where I was going,
knew who I'd be with every time, and believe me,
if she didn't hear from me at a certain time
and even throughout the night, she would text me Okay,

(01:33:06):
I'm fine, you know, just just in doubling down on that,
but I do truly hope that we're wrong. But unfortunately,
you know, the sad truth is that there is a young, beautiful,
talented girl that is no longer here and her family

(01:33:27):
misses her because of some stupid stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Speaking of stupid stuff, are you surprised that Donald Trump
and his no no listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
I know we all got a heart on for Donald Trump,
but there are times where he says things that makes
a lot of sense. Like most recently, he talked about

(01:33:54):
how Florida is operating with the vaccines and you know
what shots they should get in all that, and he
said straight up, and there's like I even agreed, So
for me to agree, it's like okay, but like no,
the majority of people that commented on his answer to
the reporter, you know, like we got to be he said,

(01:34:14):
we got to be careful in paraphrasing, but he said,
we got to be careful because that's a very very
slippery slope, you know, when you're trying to tell people,
you know, what's good vaccines and what's bad vaccines. And
he goes, I know, the polio vaccine that was one
of the best vaccines to ever come out, really good vaccine,

(01:34:34):
the COVID vaccine that's really good as well. He's like,
but we got to really be careful on you know
what vaccines we say is bad and what's good? You know,
I don't know. He's like good questions like, but you know,
we got it. He's like, we gotta tread lightly. That's

(01:34:55):
not why I don't want us focus on that. Are
you surprised that at this point the president nor has
his administration commented on the Derek on the Dereka situation.
There the death of the death of Dereka Thompson, considering

(01:35:16):
that it involves an illegal immigrant, which fits right into
his whole narrative, his whole agenda about we got to
get these bad ilegals out of our country.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Well, here's the thing. For me, this is just my
own two cents.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Guys, nobody wants to hear and I told you so,
And he's he kind of did it with the other
Hispanic guy who was deported. Well he was this, and
he was that, and so on and so forth. So
I don't necessarily think he first of all, he shouldn't

(01:35:54):
continue to say, well, you know, see, here's another example.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
Do I feel like the system.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
No? Do I feel like the way in what he's
doing is right?

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
Do I feel like the reasons why he's doing it,
As far as what he is telling us of why
he's doing it is right, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Because they're they're not for me.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
They're not doing enough to protect the US citizens that
are being hounded and put in wherever they go and
all this other shit that's happening, you know, and they're
legal and not doing anything. But then yes, you have

(01:36:59):
being the songs like this man who essentially was actually
detained by the state police fucking let go. I guess
because he didn't have a prior record or whatever. And
I guess they called themselves being lenient.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:19):
Speculation, but yet the ones that need to be maybe
slipt through the cracks.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
So there's definitely a there's there's really.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
A needs to be a more of a happy medium
and doing more research versus just come and freaking like
they used to do back in the sixties for you know,
a white woman that was both a black guy and
just raid the house and basically, you know, just throw
them in jail.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
You you went on so many levels out there. Let
me answer that question for you, guys, because the same
question I asposed to Tams I will address. So so
again the question is, and I'd love to hear from
you guys on this So again, the question is, are
you all surprised now that you've gotten the full context?
And I did check, like a couple of hours before

(01:38:14):
we went on the air. The President and his administration,
they have yet to issue any comment on the Dereka
Thompson situation. Okay, so whenever. And this is the pattern
that I've noticed with Trump. If you've watched enough politics,
you're consuming enough, you know news and information like I am,

(01:38:38):
you know that shit like this is a throw up. Okay.
What I mean by that is, oh wait, you're putting
this on a silver platter for me. Oh shit, I'm
gonna take that shit. I'm gonna run with it. And
normally shit like this Trump has a didn't see somebody

(01:39:02):
within his inner circle. Dude, this is so in your wheelhouse.
This is what you've been talking about. This is yo.
You need to double down on this. So it's not
a case of I told you so, but it's more
so a case of I gotta tell you, I'm very

(01:39:23):
surprised that he did not reach out to the victims family.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Because I've seen him. Well, let me let me finish.
Let me because I didn't interrupt you. Let me let me.
Let me do my thing. Okay. I'm surprised that he
has not reached out to the victim's family and essentially
done it in a way of We're going to make
sure that justice is done is served for your family.

(01:39:52):
We're going to make sure that to the fullest extent
the garbage human being that was in this country illegally
they get coming to them. We're gonna fullest extent of
the law, We're going to get them. Okay, I'm surprised
that he has not issued any type of comment. Now,

(01:40:13):
I'm not looking at this as a racial thing from
Trump in his administration, because I remember some weeks back
he was asked, Hey, are you thinking about or would
you consider pardoning p Diddy? And he said, straight up,
I don't really know. I think we'll kind of cross
that bridge when we get to it. But you know,

(01:40:35):
he pretty much said, you know, it's unlikely because one
thing that he didn't really appreciate is did he kind
of distance himself from Trump in more recent years said
someone flattering things about him. But despite all that, he
he still has a fondness, a a respect level for Diddy,
And maybe that's because he's looking at it from more

(01:40:58):
of a look at what this guy was able to
do with his respected empire, how he pretty much built
his empire from the ground up. So for maybe from
an entrepreneur business standpoint, he respects Diddy and you know
who knows right. So there's been other instances where as
far as for those that want to be like race,

(01:41:20):
it's like no, but if you do your research, there's
like other things where it's like, so, I don't think
it's a race thing. I don't know if this is
a situation where he looked at what happened with the
guy that's now being sent to Africa, and he's like,
I need more information. I want to make sure that

(01:41:42):
before I comment, like shit doesn't come back to blow
up in my face. I don't know if that's what
this guy is waiting on. But silence speaks volumes as
far as I'm concerned. And at the very least, the
fact that you could not latch onto this story from
the soul purpose of here's an illegal immigrant that got

(01:42:03):
in trouble with the law. Our Jewish diicial system did
not do what they needed to do then and kick
his ass out. Now, look at what happened this individual
has now taken a life and say whatever you want
about you know, about her, her lifestyle, whatever she was doing,

(01:42:26):
like a life is a life, and this could have
been avoided. Do you guys now understand why I'm doing
what I'm doing? You know why we need more bipartisanship
to work with me on this, right. But I just
find it eerie that the silence remains. That's all I'm saying.

(01:42:51):
I find it eerie that the silence remains. Now, let's
flip it. For those that want to be like, oh,
it's a black girl, Lee, Let's flip it. Let's flip it.
A young a young Russian woman that was seeking with
her family to escape everything that was happening in Russia.

(01:43:15):
Wanted to live a new life, wanted to get a
fresh start, wanted to get new opportunities, and everything came
out here to America. I'm talking about a young woman
by the name of Arnya. That's spelled I r n
Y Arnya zartowskya Anya Arnya Zartuska, Zartuska. Okay, remember that name,

(01:43:44):
go go, go look that name up in everything, right,
I'm gonna hook you guys up right now. But this
woman died a month ago, almost, well, about three weeks
ago roughly, okay, close to three weeks definitely a couple
of weeks ago. But it's trending right now because CCTV

(01:44:07):
footage of her death was finally released like two days ago,
and it's a heartbreaking story. So she came to this
country and she decided that she wanted to pursue being
a veterinarian apparently, and you're like, okay, that's that's good.
That's good, goals good for you. Right, Hey, we're the
land of opportunity. You know, you're trying to escape whatever

(01:44:29):
was going on in your home country. Hey, I respect that. Welcome,
right you and your family, and you know y'all didn't
do anything bad in your respected country. You all are
all you know y'all about Okay, all right, that's what's up.
You like hearing stories like that. So where we got married,

(01:44:52):
North Carolina. She goes on this transit bus or whatever
she's got her AirPods on. She sits on this train
or whatever that's in front of this black guy. No,
she's yeah, she's sitting in front of this black guy.

(01:45:14):
And this black guy was just kind of rocking back
and forth and all this other stuff. And you see
way before she gets on this uh, this this train,
you see him just kind of sitting in his seat
and he's just rocking back and forth, head leaning up

(01:45:35):
against the window. All of that, she gets on. There's
nothing attractive about her, nothing that really stands out. She
just gets on. She clearly finds a place to sit.
She's sitting right in front of him. She's got an
AirPods on, she's got a baseball cap on, and this
piece of shit of an asshole just casually opens up

(01:46:00):
a pocket knife stabs her repeatedly in the neck. One
of those blows. She gets up and she's looking on
extremely shocked, and then within like thirty seconds later, she
collapses on the floor, you know, and she pretty much
died right there. By the time other passengers realized something

(01:46:23):
had happened, you know, they rushed to her, try to
try to see what's going on, try to help her out.
You know, this guy, he has now taken off his
sweater and but he's got blood dripping from where he
stabbed her and all of that, Like the blood is
just dripping, it's following him as he goes all the
way to the exit, and everything Copps were able to

(01:46:46):
catch up with him. Okay, good, now here's where it gets.
And this kind of loops back to bad guys, Ilie
goes and all of that. This piece of shit fourteen
times was in the judicial system fourteen times. He went

(01:47:07):
to jail fourteen times. And it's like, what the fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
For random crimes or the same.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Thing, random crimes. Wow, if you bear with me, go ahead,
talk about that for a little bit, if you bear
with me. Actually, I'm looking at it right now. It
I got it right now. Actually no, I'm just looking
at his mugshots. But this guy, this guy was arrested, Like,

(01:47:44):
I mean, this is fucking ridiculous. This guy was like arrested,
keep talking. I'm still looking at it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:52):
I mean, at this point, one to three is enough
reference to being arrested.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
And I will be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:06):
When I was on the public transit system back many
years ago, I was very larry of people who acted
out of character, very to the point where if they
started doing some silliness, usually I moved just because you know,

(01:48:31):
maybe they do have some type of illness, maybe it's
something else, but for me, it generally creaked me out,
and I usually moved or I kept my eye on them.
And that poor woman. That's really sad, especially because where

(01:49:01):
he was stabbing her. Oh my gosh, there's just so
much there, you know, you know, the stuff, you know,
nerves and.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
The whole thing that's coming from the brain. Lord knows what.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
He severed long record dating back to twenty eleven, involving
convictions of robbery with a dangerous weapon, breaking and entering, felony, larceny,
misuse of the nine to one one system. That's just
for starters. He was known to suffer from schizophrenia.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
I wondered about that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
I really wondered about that, and possibly not on meds.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
And this should have been a deal breaker right here.
Earlier in twenty twenty five, in a quarter appearance, he
claimed that man and made material had been implanted in
his body, controlling his actions.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
Oh yeah, that's definitely schizophrenia.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
And although a judge ordered a forensic evaluation in twenty
twenty five of July, it had not been completed by
the time of the attack.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
M wow, but fourteen times, yeah, I mean, grant you there.
I mean, every stupid thing is a stupid thing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
And apparently he was homeless that makes sense. Yeah, and
not for nothing. But he somehow was able to get
on this light rail without paying his fare. Somehow he
did fair evasion.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
They probably did what some of our others used to
do with us for the metro. Yeah, but essentially, at
some point point basically getting to the nuts and bolts
of it with you know, back to the other case
that we were talking about. At some point, when do

(01:51:12):
when does the judicial system step in? Because basically, guys,
the best way two for a shadow or you know,
basically know what's going to happen in the future is

(01:51:37):
to see what the actions are in the past. And essentially, yes,
they were all you know, robberies or whatever, and he
never killed anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
But generally.

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
Their schizophrenics are so unpredictable when they're off their meds.
And if he was homelies, I know he wasn't taking them.
And they have absolutely been known to kill people for
no reason, I mean, for no reason to us. But
whatever is in their head is perfectly logical. We actually are.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
Many many, many many years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
We actually went to a for my medical careers. You
could call it an internship for because I did it
for my senior year of high school. We had to
go to Sykesville and there is a medical facility up
there for those type of people with you know, schizophrenics

(01:52:39):
and you know other major mental issues. Okay, guys, can
I tell you I was scared shitless. I was like,
do we have to so just because the unpredictability of
what they can and can't do.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
And it just.

Speaker 4 (01:53:05):
Yeah, it in The glaring thing for me is why
is our judicial system failing us?

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
I mean, that's my question.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
It shouldn't take fourteen times and a.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
Death to essentially say this, do needs help?

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
Or I mean, this is a case right here where
this is a case right here where I wish it
was three strikes and you're out. Yeah, yeah, depending on
the level the severity of the crime, especially if it's
a case where it's being elevated each time, you know,
it's definitely should be one of those three strikes. You're running,

(01:53:52):
you're out.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
You know it's off topic, but it's not off topic.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
You know, we haven't watched did in a while, where
I haven't watched it in a while, but you know,
when you go into the comics for Daredevil and essentially
getting some of these criminals essentially off is part of

(01:54:18):
the attorney's job and knowing that they did what they did.
But because they have a good ass attorney or leverage
in some way, their cop or whatever have you, they
are able to slip through the cracks, sometimes gaping holes,

(01:54:38):
but still slips the cracks, and they're back at it
again as soon as they get out. You don't change
a person's character because you've locked them up at any
form or fashion.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Well to your point before you jumped in now, I
do want to say for the record that as strongly
as I feel about the three strikes in, you're out.
If you're able to show and demonstrate to the public
that this particular individual is a threat to themselves, is

(01:55:13):
a harm to themselves and most importantly to the public,
then yes, I would definitely support being institutionalized versus put
in prison. I would definitely support the latter any day

(01:55:36):
of the week, and that person remains institutionalized until they
prove that they are now of sound and mind and
you know, the meds are definitely working and they can
be a functioning, contributing member of society again. But if

(01:55:59):
that day never comes, then they need to continue to
remain institutionalize. They should never be out on the streets.

Speaker 4 (01:56:10):
So how because here's what happens, I'm gonna play Devil's
advocate for you right now, is they have the control,
they have the resources. They meaning the person that's in there, Okay,

(01:56:31):
they have the control, they have the resources and everything
to keep them safe.

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
And also you're public safe.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:56:43):
But here's the thing is, once they've proven that they
can be functional, they could be a good asset to society.
All of that, here's what happens. It essentially goes into Okay,
I'm back out, I'm on my own. You know, I'm

(01:57:05):
sort of taking my meds. But maybe one day or
two days I fall off, and then the next week
it's one to three days, and then the next week,
and so essentially you start to become going back into
your habitual life to essentially back to where you were

(01:57:27):
before you were put in there, because there's no structure
on the outside that you're not accountable for, because you're
accountable for your own self. So essentially, now that you're
accountable for you and not someone else that's saying you
need to take your madge, you need to do this,
you need to do this, you need to do this.

(01:57:48):
Then you can fall back into that you know, manhole
for lack of better words.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
And into your own into your own psyche.

Speaker 4 (01:57:59):
And if your psyche is telling you that this person
just brought out a knife and you definitely see it,
then you're gonna defend yourself for or whatever whatever's happening
as far as in your own mind.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
So what are you saying in a nutshell?

Speaker 4 (01:58:13):
In a nutshell, I'm saying that the structure of being
in an institution with the medications, and you can then
become a.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Semi normal person. And I lose that I use that
term very loosely with being on the outside.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
You don't have that structure, and it's very easy to
fall back into that trap.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
Of being being how you were before. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:58:47):
So basically, what you're saying is as good of as
an idea that I just proposed. Basically, what you're saying
in a nutshell is yo, not for nothing. But the
person can relapse, So we're just doing it. So we're
just doing it all over again. Fact, So then what's
the fucking answer? They just remain institutionalized. I mean, because

(01:59:13):
because you we're either institutionalizing them or we're just leaving
them in prison, right and giving them the mess that
they need and psychiatric yeah help.

Speaker 4 (01:59:26):
And that's the age old question essentially, because they haven't
found an answer for that. And you know, because the
prisons you know, are crowded as it is, and essentially
we are as taxpayers paying for those institutions and prisons.

(01:59:54):
You know, it really is a very tight rope on that,
you know, whether to keep them, you know, institutionalized or
you know, maybe some type of halfway house, group home.
You know, maybe maybe that's the answer. Okay, so you're
telling me that you are in the midst of going

(02:00:19):
back into society and you're going to take your meds
and you're going to do this and so on and
so forth. Then maybe you know, your first two to
three years you're you're in the group home or halfway house,
you know, to essentially, Okay, you know, if I give
you some of your reign back, can you prove to

(02:00:39):
me that you can function in society?

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
Yeah? I mean, but you're still crossing that line of
hoping that this person doesn't. Yeah, right, you said you
wanted to talk about this. Apparently Trump is a shout

(02:01:04):
out to Mish. I know, he can't wait to get
the fuck out of Chicago. Apparently, Trump has vowed to
deploy the National Guard troops and ICE agents to Chicago,
citing rising crime and sanctuary city resistance continuation of the
prior deployments in Los Angeles and DC. He backed this

(02:01:27):
with a dramatic rhetoric and imagery, including AI generated memes
referencing Apocalypse now, renaming the Pentagon the Department of War,
and saying Chicago will find out why it's called the
Department of War. Meanwhile, federal court in California recently ruled

(02:01:49):
deployments like this, specifically in LA, violated the PCA, further
raising the legal state for Chicago. Local officials, including Illinois
Governor JB. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, strongly opposed

(02:02:11):
the deployment, calling it unconstitutional. Protests have erupted in the
city and at staging areas like Naval Station Great Lakes. Meanwhile, Boston,
shout out to Joe Numbers, a new ICE operation dub
Patriot two point zero, has begun in Massachusetts, targeting illegal

(02:02:35):
immigrants despite sanctuary policies in Boston. The Trump administration has
also filed a lawsuit against Boston for failing to cooperate
with ICE, challenging the city sanctuary ordinance backed by Mayor
Michelle Wu and the city council. And let's not forget

(02:02:58):
about DC. In DC, the Mayor's like, it's been great,
spend great, keep doing it. They're trying to do a
continuation of military deployment out here. So I was crunching
some numbers the other day, and the deployment of troops
in DC is estimated, to get this case, you guys

(02:03:19):
don't know, to be over one million dollars a day.
That estimate is derived from prior deployments that cost around
five hundred and thirty dollars per National Guard member per day,
multiplied by over two thousand troops. So just think about that.
We're having these troops go out there and to be

(02:03:42):
basically patrol to streets, pick up trash, whatever other debris
that they can find. And yeah, we're doing a one
million dollar price tag a.

Speaker 3 (02:03:54):
Day a day. So I want to clarify.

Speaker 4 (02:03:59):
Yeah, Trump has basically stated that it's been marvelous and
all that.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
Mary O.

Speaker 4 (02:04:08):
Bauser, who is the governor mayor, sorry, mayor for d C,
has basically said, thank you and we're good. So we
shall see how that plays out. But one thing I'm
very curious about though, and I haven't really had the

(02:04:31):
time to essentially look at herver haven't taken the time,
not not had the time. So you know, with all
of this, with all of this, UH National Guard and
you know, everything that's been deployed in DC, have have
numbers gone down?

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
From what I'm able to see, UH steal the same
Trump is saying what he's saying, but not for them.
Before he even took over, shit was down right.

Speaker 4 (02:05:04):
So if you're essentially putting all this money out there
for all these troops, National Guards and ICE and nothing
is essentially changing, then why are you doing it?

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
I mean, in my opinion. Now, it's funny how.

Speaker 4 (02:05:28):
We were talking about this because I stated to Lee,
as my best friend, I had went to the African
American Museum out there for two reasons. One, she went
because there has been speculation that Trump is trying to

(02:05:51):
dictate what goes in it or what should be in it,
so she wanted to essentially go there and see it
time and take her cousin who hadn't been.

Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
Possibly before anything changed. Now, the other piece of it was.

Speaker 4 (02:06:08):
She sent me a photo of seeing the National Guard
there and I asked her blatantly, I said, so, did
you feel more safe with them there or did it
make any difference? She said, no, it made no difference.
DC is DC, And it was like, wow, So, you know,

(02:06:32):
thinking of it in a way of somebody coming into
d C who's been a DC area person for you know,
many years, and then just to say it really didn't
make any difference, and you're spending all this money. And
I do feel like at least some of the reports

(02:06:52):
that we've seen that some of the DC residents are
saying the same thing.

Speaker 1 (02:06:57):
Right, So.

Speaker 4 (02:07:00):
Then all the spectacular things that have happened allegedly allegedly,
then where are they? And then the other thing, you know,
going back to that case, so if you're so heavy
on ice and and all of this other thing, then
why wasn't that man already picked up.

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
Cauchi. Meanwhile, the National Guard orders in DC expected to
be extended through December to ensure troop benefits. That's according
to an article by Haley Ritzky of CNN. She notes
that typically Guard members do not qualify for military benefits

(02:07:48):
like a housing allowance or healthcare unless they are on
active orders for more than thirty days. It's still unclear
how long the mission itself will continue in DC. But again,
the way Trump's trying to do this, He's trying to
have it go through December and everything right.

Speaker 4 (02:08:06):
For just DC, and we haven't even talked about the
areas that he's trying to deploy.

Speaker 1 (02:08:12):
Meanwhile, the District of Columbia has filed a lawsuit just
a couple of days ago seeking the block President Trump's
deployment of National Guard troops in the nation's capital, escalating
a legal fight over federal authority in the city. DC
Attorney General Brian Swab argued in the federal lawsuit that
the influx of more than a thousand troops amounts to

(02:08:35):
an involuntary military occupation and violates the law. The deployment
coincided with Trump's August eleventh executive order authorizing the surge,
which Swab contends is an unlawful use of the military
for domestic law enforcement. Yep, so a lot of fires, right.

Speaker 3 (02:08:58):
Yeah, a lot of fire.

Speaker 4 (02:09:00):
I mean wow, you know even too in Maryland, where
there was possibilities of essentially, you know, de ploying the
National regards into Maryland because of you know, Baltimore's crime
rates and things of that nature, which we sort of.

Speaker 3 (02:09:19):
Highlighted on this show.

Speaker 4 (02:09:21):
He went ahead and did like a walk through walk
down in Baltimore and invited President Trump to attend, which
he didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:09:35):
On that note, are you ready for some football? Sure
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You know.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
It's funny. We've been doing this show now for over
I would say definitely past eleven years, and the one
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(02:10:46):
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(02:11:08):
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show this past Monday because I was basically popping my
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(02:11:35):
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it though.

Speaker 3 (02:11:50):
Ship come correct the first time.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'll be back
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