WRESTLING with the TOPICS feat. Lee & Tammy Sanders 10/26/25

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Speaker 2 (02:12):
Lee Sanders joined along with me as always the beautiful
and lovely Taddy. Hello. I hope you guys have been
all right. You've been good. You've been all right, man.
We haven't done this show and I think almost a month.
I'm pretty sure it's definitely been a month, if not

(02:35):
a little bit more, because one of the last times
we were on the air, if I'm not mistaken, the
regular NFL season had started. I think we were maybe
two weeks in, and I'd say two to three weeks, yeah,
because I think now it's week what maybe seven or

(02:55):
eight or nine? Forgive me, guys, but like, yeah, we
seriously we lost tracks. So we've been very, very busy,
but we have been thinking about you guys in between
the shows. You know, your man Lee's always thinking about
you guys. In between the shows. So I said to

(03:17):
Tam yesterday, I said, hey, you want to do topics.
I'm feeling kind of well rested. I feel like I'm
ready to go. I can get on the saddle and everything.
How about it. She said, yeah, time, it feels kind
of good. Let's go ahead. Let's do it. As your
man is fresh off of med terms. I have been
stressed for weeks. You guys have no idea like, as

(03:40):
the weeks have been progressing, I have been hit up
with more and more assignments. And these past two weeks
alone was just utterly freaking ridiculous because stuff was just
coming at me. Canons to the left of me, cannons
to the right of me. I mean, it's just all

(04:01):
over the damn place. But yeah, this past week, not
this week that we're in right now. But actually no, no,
because last week was really but this week was definitely
because I had two exams that I had to take
back to back, so I was really stressing out over it.
But you know, now that I think about it, there

(04:23):
was an exam last week. I had a government exam
last week that I had took and everything. So the
midterm grades are looking good from what I'm able to
see so far looks like a's across the board, with
the exception of my government class. My government class that's

(04:43):
looking like it is probably around a B plus to
a B minus. That's B as in.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Now, some of you guys may be saying, ah, Lee,
it's not the end of the world, homie. You know,
B minus that's you know, that's that's pretty good. Could
be better for my personal taste. I look, and TAM's
was trying to figure this out when we were talking.
She was like, but every time we talk, like, you're
always like talking government, You're always talking politics. I say, yeah,

(05:11):
but if you really pay attention, I'm very very niche
in what I'm talking about. And for this government class
that I'm in, which is at the highest university level
of education, you know, it's one thing if you were
to just go all in and focus on DC politics,

(05:32):
which when I was in high school I actually did,
and I did kind of pay attention to what was
going on. I think I came out of there with
like a c.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Okay, you were average.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I was average, yeah, you know, and that was just
on my best day, trying to you know, really really
like study and learn the crap and everything.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
But yeah, it's always good to challenge yourself, you know
it is.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
But I'm fine that all these years later, I still
don't care for government as far as like learning it
and and and this happened in this year. And this
is important because you know, but what's so interesting? What's
so interesting for me now that you've seen it? And
I don't know if this is the new norm for

(06:21):
you other fellow students out there, y'all gotta sound off
and let me know. But these blue book tests, So
for those of you that are not aware, more and
more universities, especially these PWI universities, what they are doing
to come bad AI software such as chad GPT, Gemini

(06:49):
co Pilot. They rather than okay, here's your exam, get
in front of your computer with your lockdown browser and
you go take the test. No, they want you to
physically come in during what would be class time and

(07:11):
you're taking the test there in front of the professor
and potentially a TA a teacher's aid. And they give
you a paper so like you will get a dog.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'll give you a mini composition notebookers.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
When they give you no, no, no, listen listen, because it's
a two partern. I want to make sure this is stress.
They give you two things. They both are papers. The
first thing that they give you is a double sided
h you know, it could be depends on the course,
but it could be two pages four sighted, or it
could be three pages six sided. You get the gist.

(07:51):
But they give you that, and that's either going to
be maybe multiple choice or you got to write something in.
And then they give you this blue booklet where you
have to pledge that basically you haven't been cheating and
all that other crap. And then when you open that
blue book, it's just regular notebook paper that's inside. Now

(08:13):
some of you guys hear that, you go, what the
hell is that? Well, depending on the classes, they're going
to ask you some essay like questions that they really
want you to write down, and you got to demonstrate
that you know what the hell you're talking about. And
at the very end, you turn both of these things
in and from you know what, I understand, this been

(08:36):
like the new norm for the past couple of years
because a lot of people have been exploiting the hell
out of AI. And it's funny that we're talking about AI,
because not to get too into the weeds, but I
actually wrote for my campus one of my campus papers.
I'm very happy to say this with you, share this

(08:58):
news with you all. I actually an investigative piece exploring
all the different intricacies with AI and with the rise
of these deep fakes, and you know where exactly are
we going? Who's at fault? Is it? Is it on

(09:18):
the people that are using these software platforms for engagement monetization,
you know, clicks and all that. Is it their fault?
Is it the software company's fault that have implemented this technology,
or is it the fault of these social media platforms
that are aggregating this type of content to the point

(09:42):
that basically, you know, you've seen what essentially happened with
the Michael Jackson at State, You've seen what happened with
the Martin Luther King Junior estate. You know, like, who's
at fault? So it's a really great piece. I finished
it up and there were quite a few people that
I I had hit up that I'm really appreciative of

(10:04):
everybody that had took the time out to grant me,
you know, their time and all that. I will tell
you one person that I was just like, and I'm
not bad mouthed. I'm not bad mouthing this person. I'm not.
But I'm just old school like that when you tell
me that you're gonna do something, and I lay all

(10:27):
my cards out on the table and you're like, Okay, yeah,
I can work with you. Yeah, let's go ahead, let's
do something. You know, I'm a man of my word.
If I say I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do
it unless I'm not feeling well some type an emergency
comes down. Those will be like the only two times
I won't do it. So Stephen P. Knew. For those

(10:48):
of you that are familiar with Jim Cornett, you know,
I heard so many people seeing the praises of Stephen P.
Knew over the years, I decided. And for those of
you that know don't know, this is Jim Cornett's lawyer.
And I've been covering Stephen p news when he has
made the news off and on over the years and

(11:10):
various things. But I thought TAM's that Stephen P. Knew
would be a fantastic guess, not not guests, but I
thought he'd be a fantastic source to talk to about
this whole AI deep fake because it goes into the
whole likeliness copyright and all of that crap, and not

(11:35):
for nothing. But New has tackled a couple of events
off and on over the years where Jim Cornett's likeliness
has been used by you know, basically people that did
not get permission. You know, I can't remember the I

(11:55):
can't remember the wrestler's name, but there was some guy
that a couple of years back had took Jim Cornett's face.
You know, it was a character, sure you it was
really really cool, and Cornett was all bloodied and you know,
it looked like he'd been through a hardcore match or whatever.
And he put it on sale and people were buying them.
They thought it was cool. Work got back to Jim Cornett,

(12:18):
you know, he was pretty furious, and he got Stephen P.
K New involved. Yeah, he got Stephen P. New involved,
and then he turned. Turns out, it's so funny. Once
everything got settled, for like about twenty four forty eight
hours whatever it was, for a limited time, Jim Cornett
sold that shirt and I forgot where the money went.

(12:40):
I'm pretty sure it went to like worthy calls or whatever.
But like, that was the end of that. So I thought, okay, well,
you know, as far as somebody that you know what,
Stephen penew was one of the first people that came
into my mind. So I hit up Stephen P. Knew
and I introduced myself. You know, I told him what
I and I didn't come to him as Lese Anders
the pot podcast. I want people to understand that I

(13:02):
did not come to him as a podcaster. I actually
came to him as a as a journalism student that
is working on a media participation project. I told him,
you know, the whole nine yards. I told him this
was going to be for a campus newspaper, you know.

(13:22):
So I was very transparent and he said, oh, Lee,
you know, yeah, it sounds like a great topic. Man,
I definitely would love to work with you. I definitely
would love to work with you on this. You know,
before we talk about this, I want you to read
up on And to my credit, I read up on

(13:44):
the two things that he wanted me to read up on,
and he was like, you know, what's a good day
in time for you? What do you do? Matter of fact,
he was like, what are you doing tomorrow? I'm like, oh,
I'm like, I love the fact that this guy is,
you know, a go get her like, because I'm not
way myself. Let's go like that's how I am. So

(14:04):
I was like, okay, well how about Friday? You know,
this was last week, of course, and so I'm like, well,
how about Friday? You know, you know, I've got a
couple of classes, but you know, why don't we maybe
try for three in the afternoon or something. It's like, yeah, yeah, sure,
you know, let's let's go ahead. Yeah, give me a
call around three ish. I'm like, okay, cool. So I

(14:24):
had to study for the two exams that were coming
up for this week that we're in. More on that
in a hot minute. So when that Friday came, I decided, well,
you know, one of my classes I really don't need
to go to, you know, because it's just basically a
recap and it's with the Ta and this is for

(14:46):
worthy calls, this is for you know, my damn article.
Let me go ahead, I'll skip that one. I'll do that.
So I rearranged my schedule, That's all I'm saying. In
a nutshell. I rearranged my schedule. Three o'clock comes, I
called Steven promptly went straight to voicemail. Now keep in mind,

(15:06):
about fifteen minutes before this call, I private messaged him,
just like I did the first initial time, and introducing myself,
and fifteen minutes before the phone call, I said, Hey, Steve,
looking forward to the phone call. Hey, just to kind
of give your heads up so that you don't feel
blindsided and everything. Here's the questions I'm going to be

(15:26):
asking you. And if you want to kind of go,
you know, off in a different direction, you know, that's
fine too, But you know, I'm like just to, you know,
just so you don't feel like it's a gotcha thing.
So and TAM's has seen the questions. As far as
she was concerned, it was really good questions that I had. Acts.
So time came call Rang ring ring, ring, ring, goes

(15:50):
to voicemail. I leave a voice message. I waited about
fifteen maybe twenty minutes. I uh DM Steven to let
him know that I did call promptly. Da Da Da
Ain't heard nothing back. Sense, So look, I don't know

(16:12):
what's going on with the guy. I hope he is okay.
I did take it personal though, but you know, after
I was talking with a couple of people. They were like, look, man,
this is the nature of the industry that you're trying
to work in. You're like, you will have some people.
He's like, you need to be prepared. You will have
some people that will will tell you one thing and

(16:35):
they will do the opposite, and you know, their intentions
might be good, but you know. And then when I was,
you know, talking you know, more and more with people,
you know, apparently some people were like, Lee, don't take
it personal. Like Steven did the same thing to me,
and it was like, really, he's like yeah, it's like,
don't take it personal. It's like he's just he's always busy,

(16:58):
Like he really doesn't. Okay, well, I get that if
you get busy, that's fine. But if you if you
commit it to something, you should at least go out
of your way and say, hey, man, I'm I'm so sorry.
You know, there's no excuse. You know, I hope you
didn't have to rearrange your schedule, but like, regardless I
didn't come through. Sorry about that, but like nothing, nothing.

(17:21):
And I'm one of those type of people. First impressions
mean everything to me. And you know, even if even
if you got cold feet or I can respect that.
At least you just communicated. I don't think so weirder.
I mean, if I were to, if I were to speculate,
I would maybe say.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
It was he over committed itself.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think you over committed too. Yeah, yeah, I think
you over committed. You know, it's nothing but love. I mean,
I still love the guy. I still appreciate his work
and and and all of that, his contributions because he
gives really he gives really good legal insight and everything.
But yeah, you know, and also the nature of the beast,

(18:06):
because you know, I'm a journalism student. It's like, Okay,
I gotta keep it moving along. It's like I gotta
you know, you said something earlier in the week. Jab move,
jab move, jab move. And that's basically how I was
doing this piece. I had to keep moving because the
thing that was irritating to me the most. And I

(18:28):
learned this early on when I started, like, Okay, who
can I go to? Who can I reach out for
this piece? And it was okay, well, don't just settle
on this one name like who else can you reach
out to that can contribute? And you guys will see
when this article goes live, you guys are are gonna

(18:50):
love it. Now, I've got some bad news for you.
I'm talking to TAM's now and you all as well.
But Tams was really curious about this. So the paper
that I basically have written this piece for these guys
have been around since nineteen sixty eight. I believe, the

(19:13):
Black Experience, Black Explosion.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Interestingly enough, I can imagine what kind of stories they
were doing back then.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yes, yes, the Black Explosion newspaper. Here's the other thing.
Here's the other thing. I think about five maybe six
years ago, they stopped doing print, so it is now digital, okay,
But I'm gonna try to see if I can pull

(19:41):
some strings and maybe figure out if like, all right, yes, sure,
there's no way you know, I doubt, I doubt don't
even have the prime I know, I know. So I'm
already thinking ahead, which.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Maybe if it'd have been like six months, maybe, but.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm already thinking ahead. And I'm gonna be like,
I'm just gonna print that ship out and uh, make
some make make some nice ass prints, and that's gonna
be good. So I'm very excited for you guys because
I handed it to the editor earlier this week, and uh,
he was like, okay, let me take a look at it.
I'll work my magic and and i'll get back to you.

(20:22):
I'm like, okay, bet so I should know something. I'm
hoping before Thursday because it's in the editing phase now.
And once it's in that phase, you know, as I
as I said the town, it's basically as you get
this link and you're actually able to see the status
of your article.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
That's right. That's when you were saying, is.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
It's like the Domino's tracker. So it's like it's in
the editing mode. I'm like, hey, cool, Like so that's cool. Right.
So that's that and then another good thing to talk
about what we're talking about. Education. A huge milestone officially
came in the mail the other day and I was
quite quite pleased. My associate's degree from Montgomery College in

(21:09):
the media production. Finally, finally the physical diploma came and
I was very excited for that. I waited until TAM's
got home and I said, hey, I got something cool
for you, and she's like, okay, so I think I

(21:31):
know what it is. And I'm like hey, yeah, I'm
like yeah, it's a statue that I got, you know,
I was trying to piss her off at that point
because it's like now she knows what it is like
and she's like yeah and I know what. And I'm like,
god damn, it's like, just you know, dummy up, don't
you overretaining. You don't know what's going on. But this

(21:51):
was a long time coming.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
It's one thing to get it's one thing to finally
get the official notation on your transcript, but it doesn't
beat having the physical right, the physical copy. Even when
I got the email saying hey, you can digitally download
your it's like, well that's nice.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I want to, you know, with us our upbringing and
the time, and you know, I mean not that we're
old heads, but you know we're still very physical copy
people on certain things. Now, question, I'm gonna put you

(22:36):
on the spot, so we.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
If you guys, you guys may or may not know.
So last May.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
It was kind of like, okay, well, graduations coming up,
you dang me are finished?

Speaker 4 (22:55):
You're gonna walk.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
No no no no no no no no no no
no no.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Son, I'm like you sure, cuz.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
And so he looked into it and then it turns
out short, long story short, he kind of missed the
opportunity and the opening to do so.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
So that was that.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
So my question being, guys, are you going to go
to graduation next year?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
There's a part of me that wants to. Really, I'm
like sixty forty right now, six sixty forty. There's sixty
percent of me that wants to do it because it's like, yo,
it's it's a huge milestone. But at the same time,
it's like, dude, you already got the degree, so why

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you know, keep focusing on the new task at hand,
which is getting the bachelor's degree in journalism, Like, just
just focus on that. And there's a part of me
that also kind of feels like I'm going a little
backwards too. But then there's another part of me that's going, well,
you know, I always said to some of my professors

(24:12):
at MC that I would stay in touch any way
that I could give back, that I would, And so
there's a part of me that's going, why not go back.
It's like, you know, even if I were to never
go back there again, like I earned that right to

(24:36):
hear my name called and walk across the stage with honors,
with honors, with honors, got to put some fucking respect
on that with honors for those of you that's like,
I don't let me break that. Basically, basically, that means
that I maintained a certain GPA for my entire duration

(25:01):
that I was there, and I think I think my
GPA ended up being around three point six something. So
I graduated with honors. The next tier that's after that.
I think I think that's high high four point two

(25:25):
if if if if even that it might have been
a three point nine or three point eight and up
or something like that, but I think that's the max
that you can get. I think that was the maximum.
I would say that again, highest honors. I think that
was the So I was like right there basically picture
S rank and then you know, for your for you

(25:45):
video gamers out there, you know picture S rank that's
like the highest, like you don't get no better than that,
and then an A. I was the A, you know,
so it's like, hey, I'll fucking take it. Oh and
five THETA capital. Let's make sure we throw the too
exactly with honors and KAPA. So no, I think I'm

(26:05):
gonna end up going. I think I'm gonna end up going.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I think you should celebrate your wins. Yeah, you know
you didn't. I mean, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Are you going to have one you know, massive you
know massive thing for um D Yes, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
I mean, guys, let's be honest. We did a little
bit of celebration for the m C.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
You know, we went out to dinner and he got
some gifts. As a matter of fact, he actually got
two dinners. One was just kind of a general dinner
that was a celebration with friends, and then then there
was another.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Celebration that was basically, you know, really really close friends
and family.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
So that was really cool as well to do that
and then you know, just celebrate. But man, the party
that's gonna happen in two years from now.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Oh yeah, I'm telling you right now, I already know
what we're doing already, know you. I already know what
we're doing. Already know what we're doing. We all are
going to Hooters. We all are going to Hooters. Lord.
So that's a runner up. I was gonna say, that's

(27:30):
a runner up.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Okay, So what's what's the what's the other one?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I ain't figured it out yet.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
You gotta get Okay, Well, I already have some plans
on my own.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Oh okay, well maybe we could. Maybe we could do it.
You know who said it had to be one thing.
It would be an all day little thing.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
It could be an all day little thing. But I
definitely want Hooters to be a part of it. Lee. Look,
y'all know Lee loves the big girls. You see you
see the wifey over here, you know she she a
big girl. And I gotta say, I'm quite pleased with
the fact that in recent years Hooter's been showing love
to the big girl.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
So I want to see.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
What's going on now, because you know, last couple of
times I was there, you know, it's been a good
minute now. Last couple of times I was there, my
brother was noticing some of these girls like women night.
You know, you all got some cute little faces. But
y'all look like you need to be sitting down and
needing to play the wings, like you know, hey, honey,
pull up a chair, come on some of these wings.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I know, I know when we went to OsO Con,
there's actually like the server that was hooking us up.
I wanted to say to her, so bad have you
eaten today? I felt so bad I mean, she was
a tiny little thing. She had been like she'd have
been like four eleven five one, weigh like at least
ninety pounds. I mean, it was a nice ninety pounds,

(28:53):
but she she looked, you know, Jesus Christ, you know,
puts some meat on them bones.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Man.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
So I'm I'm no, I'm excited though. I'm excited though,
and you know what, I already reached out to everybody internally,
but now I want for the record to show because
I know, when it's all said and done, this weird
podcast ecosystem, the way it goes down and everything, you know,

(29:21):
there are you know, we share some of the same
listeners with, you know, friends of the show and everything,
and I told them before, but I don't really think
they really really really know how much it means and everything.
But I know I heard from Jason last night because

(29:43):
I shared with him the video privately me doing the unveiling.
So so there is a a unveiling of the video
of me showing off the degree, but you guys will
never see it because this, you know, I wanted to
have this be an intimate thing that would only be

(30:04):
shared with that would only be shared with those that legit.
You know, hey, you had a part in this. Thank you.
And Jason Solomon Solomonster sounds off, you know. I reached
out to him, and in his own way, he played
a part, you know in motivating me and and you know,

(30:30):
challenging myself to you know, hey, you can and you
should do better, you know. And so it was nice.
And I'm not going to tell you all what Jason
said to me, but because that's between me and him.
I also shared the news and and everything with Miss

(30:52):
Thomas from Wrestling Soup. I tried looking up Joe numbers,
but Joe doesn't have of social media footprint anymore, so
I pretty much had to go through the official podcast page.
But you know, I tell you you guys have no idea.
Mish is one of the sweetest, nicest people that is

(31:16):
out there. He is willing and I've told him this
before and I will continue to tell him this. You
know why, because truly I'm a friend and I love
the guy and I want nothing but the best for him.
But he will have people that will try to take
advantage of him, you know, because that's how good of

(31:38):
a guy he is, that's how big of a heart
he has. And I have seen people time and time
and time again pretty much use him for whatever they're
trying to and then when they feel like, you know,
it's like you could just smell these people a mile
away that they got their own agenda for why they
are trying to constantly talk to him and and all

(32:01):
of that, you know, because you know, and I told
its like, you gotta be careful. You know, it's okay
to say no. You know, That's been my message to
him off and like, dude, it's okay to say no.
It's like you don't feel comfortable doing it, you don't
want to do it.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
As they say, no is a complete sentence.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
No, it is a complete sentence. Yeah, and no means no.
No feels really good when you use it just right,
you know, I mean seriously, you know. But anytime I
needed like some audio, you know, some kind of technical
I was always able to, like over the years, reach
out to him, pick his brain, and he was always

(32:36):
willing to give me the time or day, something that
I never ever because I knew, like this guy doesn't
have to be spending five minutes, you know, because he's
so you know, busy and all that. And another person
I have not spoken to this person in a few years.

(32:57):
Last time I even try to communicate. I wish him
success and blessings in his new marriage. Anthony Deblasi Don
Tony And before anybody goes, why did you stop talking
to the Blasie? Oh, it was nothing personal. I honestly

(33:17):
I didn't like how the whole Miss the Blasi thing
went down live on the air. I still feel to
this day, all these years later, there was a correct way,
don't get me wrong. And I love Miss and I'm
pretty sure I've told him this too, and and you know,
again it's between me and him, but I'm pretty sure

(33:40):
I said to Miss, you know, look, both sides were wrong,
so it's not like I'm choosing. But if it's a
case where it's like, okay, who who really really should
have handled it? Like Ted times better, TAM's will tell
you because I remember showing her the episode, the episode
any question, and TAM's was like, what the fuck did

(34:01):
I just watch?

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I'm pretty sure those were my exact words.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
She said, Well, she said, what the fuck did I watched?
Just watched? She was like, did I really just watch
uh DT have a hissy fit live on air? I
said yeah. I said yeah, and it even rubbed her
the wrong way. She's like, and she knows like all
the stuff that Misch was doing behind the scenes for DT,

(34:28):
and she was like, after everything that miss has done
for this dude, and he acts like that, I'm like,
so that rubbed me the wrong way. That's that's ultimately
why I just stopped talking to DT, because I just
felt that wasn't cool, Like you don't no, no, you
could do a JABRONI like that that you've only spoken

(34:49):
to for maybe two weeks or.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
You know that way.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
There's etiquette, there is, you know, in general, in general
for any you work with.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
And I'll give him an out. He probably has learned
from that, and that's probably something that he wishes he
could probably take back. But he's also come off as
one of those type of people. Once he feels that
you've slighted him, you know, you're pretty much on his
his crap list, Like if you've slighted him in the

(35:22):
in the littlest way, you know, that's that's I'm just
telling you, guys, how how he has come off in
the past. He may have changed, but that's beyond and besides,
the point et was definitely influential.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
He so, guys, just to put my own two cents,
it was when we first started dating, and this has
been we.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
First started dating you.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
No, I'm going to actually blow people's minds in about
in about a second. We are literally t minus about
two no, three months from being fifteen years amntime flaws.
So so basically, I guess we were probably talking for

(36:22):
three to six months and it was guys, I kid
you not PW Insider.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
And Dtksey and Pro Wrestling Report and Pro Wrestling with
Damon Nelson and David Hero.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yes, all three of those were in weekly rotation on
when they aired. So know that ye man has been
on the path for almost fifteen years. Yeah, didn't have

(36:59):
the vision yet when he first started out, but it
was definitely something that was a passion.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Wow, fifteen years. That's
that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I knew I was gonna blow his mind.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
That is crazy. Just I understand that the seeds were
planned even way back then. That's uh, that's and it's
kind of poetic that you bring that up, because you
know what next month marks at the moment, No, next
month marks, next month marks year fourteen for the RCWR show,

(37:40):
the fourteenth anniversary that.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Oh, yes, that's right November. Ye, yes, that that was
fun times. Yeah, yeah, I'll never I don't think I'll
ever forget the very first show.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
And it was so funny. It was kind of like.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
That first show.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
It was like Walter.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Just sitting in front of the computer and just trying
his damnedness to will it to come to fruition.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
And I'm just like, okay, all right, well that's interesting.
But lord, this is born his hail.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
Look.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Look, this is how bad it was. This is how
bad it was before Shannon's Sharp hooked up with Skip Bayless.
If you all all that are SLEW detectives, look up
the early stuff with Shannon Sharp in front of his
webcam with pieces of paper and he's going over sports

(38:37):
news and all.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
That other song that sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I was rougher than that. I was rougher than that.
Go look that Shannon Sharp stuff up. I was rougher
than that. And I'll never forget. You said to me,
you said, well, if this is something you know, you're
you're really serious about. My my only advice to you
stick with it. See it all, see it all. The

(39:03):
way through.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
So guys that came from I'll give you a little
bit of peak peek inside. Right, So every two to
three months, your boy had a new idea about what
he was going to do in his life, and I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Uh huh uh uh huh.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Okay, and then two months later it would be something
totally different.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
So, to be honest with you, what.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I said to him in actual aggravation, and I knew
it stuck when I said it, but I actually said
it in aggravation like pick Aline, I freaking Diana.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Oh my god, you know you don't you know what
I didn't and say it in the video. But you
know what, shout out to Damian Nelson as well, because
Damien Nelsons motivation, big motivation, big influence. And it's so funny,
isn't it Because all these people that I mentioned, not
only did I play a role, but to some extent

(40:17):
I collaborated with them as well, you know, so.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
You know it's so funny. And and this is for anybody.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Guys, you do not know in your day to day life,
whatever your job is, you do.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Not know the impact you have on someone else.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah, that is something that is completely powerful.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, it really is. I mean sincerely, and you know,
I will share this much with you guys from the
video that I shared with those with those with those
individuals that I mentioned earlier, I will share this. I
grew up in a household where my mom and dad

(41:06):
and this definitely ties into our segues into our next topic.
My mom and dad did not finish high school. They
had me, and they dropped out of high school pretty
much when they knew I was in the picture. And

(41:26):
you know, bear with me, I'm just trying to find
the right words. No, I'm not getting emotional. I'm just
trying to find the right words. It's kind of I'll
just throw it out there, forget me. I just got
to throw it out there and it just lands the
way that it lands. But to grow up and essentially

(41:49):
see that although my mother was trying, what she really
was doing was trying to serve. She wasn't trying to
she wasn't trying to thrive. And my dad squandered opportunities

(42:12):
that came his way. And a lot of that was
because he was still a young man, a very young man,
you know, still trying to be all about hanging with
the boys, playing basketball and all of that. Looking at
everything from a sociology standpoint, you know, thinking upstream. You know, obviously,

(42:37):
the more money that you have, the more money comes power,
you know, comes wealthy, right, and when risk, certain risks
come about, the further upstream you are, the better that
you're able to navigate those risks correct. And sadly for
my parents, they really you know, there was a lot

(42:59):
of uh, you know, we were more downstream and so
unfortunately by being downstreamed that you know, that relegated us
to risk. Yeah, a lot of risk. And so I
say that, I say that to say I say that,
to say this, which is nothing is more, Nothing is

(43:22):
more impactful than when you have your parents say to you,
either you're a dumbass, You're not you know, you're not smart.
I don't want to hang around him. I'm embarrassed to
be around him, you know, to being told you know,

(43:48):
later on, you know, the one parent that was you know,
kind of in your favor and it's like, hey, I
know you're smart. You just gotta to then have a
parent that I I don't know if maybe she felt
kind of hurt over the fact that I wasn't fulfilling
her dream, but to basically be told, you know, you're

(44:09):
not a good writer. And we're talking about comic books.
That's it. We're just talking about comic handmade comic books
that I was doing. You know, like you're not a
good writer, or you know, hey, I'm thinking about going
to the army. You know, you're not cut out for
the army. You know. It's like, you know, anything is
possible when you fucking put your mind to it, and

(44:32):
you have the right people that are like fuck yeah, dude,
like yeah, do it? What stopping you fucking do it?
You know, and so so so it gives me validation,
like you have no idea, I'm sure to be able
to say I'm first generation. I'm first generation. I did.

(44:56):
I succeeded where my parents failed. You know, let that
be a testament that you know, It's one it's never
too late to change the road that you're on, and
two it's okay to be a little scared about what's

(45:17):
to come. Sometimes you got to embrace that unknown, you
know all. And I think what's really been a huge
motivator for me as well, seeing all these people that
we have loved that played some part of our childhood
they're just dropping dead before our eyes. DiAngelo really really,

(45:37):
you know, and we're not going to go in depth
about that because it wouldn't be fair to Tams. TAM's
didn't really TAM's didn't really mess with Di'angelo's catalog like that.
She was only aware of like a couple of songs.
But like, you know, to see people like di'angelo drop
years ahead of their time, you know, I think back to,
you know, if you're lucky, seventy five seasons, seventy five

(46:01):
years of life. If you're lucky, so seventy five seasons,
it's kind of like you got to make the most
of it. And I'll be damn if I fucking nah,
you know, like I don't know when my time is up.
So I'm now in that mindset of I want to
get the most out of it. Well I'm still here

(46:24):
because if it all goes, I want to be able
to say I can't speak for you guys, but I
want to be able to say, hey, I did good,
I contributed, I paid it forward, I did good.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Absolutely, that's you.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Know, yes, shout out to miss Yeah, we're getting old, dude.
I was thinking about I was thinking about the other day,
you know, twenty thirty, that's gonna mark fifty years since
the eighties.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Yes, Jesus, we're nice and we're not real far.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
We're not real far. I'm fucking depressed and seriously, seriously, Oh,
that's what we were gonna talk about. I guess that's
a good segue too. I wasn't planning on talking about
this at some point. I was. But how about that,
by the way, Mike, no, George Michael, No, Michael Hutchinson

(47:18):
of an Excess, No, Whitney Houston, no, Michael Jackson, no Prince, no,
Chris Cornell. I think Nirvana kind of started in the
late eighties as well, but I think they're dabut.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Nineties.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah, ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, right, but no,
just think about that for a seconds, to the point
that I was just bringing up earlier, like all the
people that we grew up on in the eighties, in
the eighties, like the most influential, the most influential, like
hard hit Like it's like, damn, I just named some
heavy hitters right there, and they're all gone right now.

(47:59):
It's not all doom and gloom. I mean, we still
got Daryl Hall, John Oates r E M pretty much retired.
We still got Metallica, we still got Mega Death. I
mean they're getting ready to retire though.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Then Oh sorry Ozzie, Oh don't remind me.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah that was. Yeah, Ozzie's gone.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
So it's it is. But you're right, it's it's not
all doom and gloom.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
I mean, you still have you still got Madonna? What
version do you want to see this week?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
You know we still got Madonna?

Speaker 4 (48:38):
You still got Madonna?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Can I just mad Janet?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Can I just make a confession about Madonna? I'm a
closeted Madonna fan. I'm a closet Madonna fan. I really am.
If you catch me, you know, put a spike camera
in my car or whatever, you will catch me at
the right time singing border line. I wish I was bullshitting.

(49:05):
You won't catch me singing borderline.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Wow, that's something guys, I did not know.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
You will catch me singing. You will catch me singing.
What's What's another one? I was humming it the other day.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Per Yeah, I learned.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well, hope, I know, say goodbye that duet with baby Face.
That's another one. I really like. I'm trying to think
what's another one from Madonna's cattlewalg I like there, that's
kind of like, don't mention like a prayer. I don't,
I don't. I never did care for eh. That was

(49:56):
too commercial for me. It was a very popular hit,
too commercial for me.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Something for a Jick Tracy movie. I was about to say,
like a Vita. I think it was a Vitas. She
did one of the scores for Bond.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
But it was okay, and I was all right, there
was something else.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Don't you motherfuckers bring up like a Virgin. I didn't
care for that one.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
I know you just said that.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Oh I did, Yes, damn, I am getting hold o
true story. I looked at a photo of myself from
a year ago. I have more gray in my beard
than a year ago. Now, imagine seeing my black ass

(50:49):
in one of my classes, right, and I got all
this gray. I'm about ready to eat or shave it
off or or I refuse to do just for men.
I'm not trying to be like Walt Frazier as clear
as day.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
Dude, Come on, yeah, that something else. It's like, dude, dude,
just stop, just stop. Yeah, we're still we still got
Janney Jackson. We still got Janet Jackson.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
M did you guys hear new addition, Boys to Men
and Tony Braxton are all going on tour together. I
looked at that, I said, Yo, what a barbecue at seriously? That?
I mean that, that's that's some that's some damn good
You know that's gonna be some good as vibes going

(51:39):
on there. I'm trying to go to that joint seriously,
because that's gonna be nothing but good times. Hey, did
you hear how our boy Carrying Cross had made the
news recently shout out to carry and Cross. So this
dude he put out another little mini documentary and I

(52:00):
would highly encourage you guys to go check it out.
It's like about an hour maybe twenty minutes, one big
work and in this go round he talks about ultimately
it depends on how you really want to This was
my interpretation. Let me tell you my interpretation, and you

(52:22):
guys can let me know what you guys thought about it.
But my interpretation first of all, and I'll keep it real.
I'm watching like the first fifty minutes of this documentary
and I'm going, okay, okay. First of all, the way
he lays it out is beautiful because he says at
the very beginning, you know, hey, I'm gonna tell you

(52:44):
something that you're not gonna like. You're gonna be really
upset at it. But understand, I'm like, okay, all right,
that's a nice teaser. So you're giving me that carrot,
and as I always like to say, dangle that carrot
over my head. Give me that extra little bit of
why I need to stick around? Why am I watching this?
Why I need to stick around? So I thought the

(53:06):
way that was laid out was great, but I'm going
into this documentary. I'm going, yeah, this is nice.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Shut the front door, come.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
On now, focus, I'm going this is nice. That's nice,
this is nice. That's nice. Can we get to the
juicy part already? So I had to do a little
bit of skimming around and I'm going, oh, it's Darby Allen.
Hey cool, skipping around a little bit more. Finally this
word the juicy shit hits you get to the fifty
minute mark. My mind was fucking blown when he did

(53:41):
tell me, tell me I'm lying here, because that shit
was deep. He goes into this metaphor with the Moby
Dick book, and I have never heard a more riveting
analogy metaphor then what he did in setting up the

(54:04):
Moby Dick book, laking himself scarlet back to WWE. That
had my undivided attention. And I never cared for Moby Dick,
but now you know, it's like when you really stop
you think about it, Moby Dick is definitely one of

(54:25):
those books where you go back and you learn something
new every single time that you read it. You know
what is so damn interesting over.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
There looking at the tickets?

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Okay, for have you even been listened to a motherfucking thing?

Speaker 4 (54:43):
I've been saying, No, that's.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Not See, that's why we don't do that. That's why
we don't do that, because then when you get past
the ball that shit just like that right there, and
also shit like that right there. Okay, because then when
it's time for you to do the pop quiz and
chime out hu hum. Okay. So the topic is carrying

(55:09):
cross right, Okay. So fifty minutes into his new documentary
that's up on YouTube, he gives this really great metaphor
in bringing up the book movie Dick. And he's read
it off and on over the years, but it really
didn't dawn on him because he basically was saying how
each time he picks it up, he learned something new.

(55:31):
Will this go around? He uses these really cool metaphors
and all that to basically link him and Scarlet to
the WWE. And one of the things that he mentions
is the fact that WWE apparently, and again this is
my interpretation. You guys can let me know what you think.

(55:52):
I'm sorry if I had to repeat that, but I
just want to make sure the record is clear. That's
all carry and Cross goes, Okay, look book, because you guys,
look at how much money I've been making off of
my book sales. Because apparently WWE was getting a cut
of his book sales.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Even if I let him go.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
This is why I said pay attention. This is why
I say I pay attention. Well, before Carrion Cross got released,
he was able to put out his Life Is Everything
book with the help of WWE. And for you longtime listeners,
I said on this show while he was still with WWE,

(56:37):
I said, Hey, that's cool that he's got this book
coming now with Jesus Christ. Is WWE getting a cut? Like?
What's going on? And I remember saying on the show.
I wonder who the publisher of this book is, because
if it's ECW Press, then they're likely getting a cut. WW.

(56:57):
That is, they're likely getting a cut because normally they
helped talents. If they want to write a book, they
usually helped them and have them passed through ECW Press.
And it turns out ECW Press is behind carry Across's book.
So I didn't think nothing much of it, you know,

(57:18):
highsight being twenty twenty, I think I kind of saw something,
but I wasn't really sure, so I didn't want to
double down. So it turns out Wwe was getting a
cut for his book.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
So publishing rights.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Let's not go too into the wise. We just need
to leave it at ww's getting a cut.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
So when so when WWE hit up Carrying, Yo, you
got twenty four hours, you know, here you go. You're like,
wait a minute, how did you guys come across this number?
And also, hey, my book? You know, you guys are
you know you're getting a cut from that? And look
at how this book is doing so well. Look at
how much money is coming in off these books, and

(58:00):
you know, look at how the tours are going. And
Wwe says to him, Well, that's irrelevant.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
How is that irrelevant?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
How is that irrelevant? Is right? And also, at the
same time, for this person or persons that said that
to him, you are essentially saying your story doesn't matter either,
fuck you, fuck your story, we don't care about that shit.
You don't matter.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
And you're also saying we got what we wanted to
fuck you.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yeah, that's what you're really that's what you're really saying exactly.
So that that was the most telling tale from that
was the most telling tale from the documentary, was that part.
And like I said, if you guys want to just
go in right at about the fifty minute mark, that's
where things really start getting very very good. But uh yeah,

(58:52):
carry in basically, And then he also revealed that WW
essentially was trying to pull what TNA had did, where
TNA was like, look, we want to get you to
re sign and he's like, okay, yeah, sure, well what
about Scarlet And they're like, yeah, yeah, we'll take care
of her, you know, don't don't worry about her, and

(59:14):
and so he's like okay, and he fell for their trap,
and then he was kind of you know, stuck in
limbo and all that and he basically said in the
video when ww tried to hit him up with this,
and he's like, okay, well what about And he didn't
say Scarlet, you know, he referenced her by one of
the other movie Dick characters, you know, and WWE, which

(59:36):
under a different name, you know, the well, I guess
you know. They're like, yeah, I don't worry about her,
We'll take care of let's take care of you first.
He's like, man, I've already fallen for that once, so like,
what the hell? It was a strong, strong, strong accusation
that And he also revealed that in regards to is

(01:00:04):
WWE release, it was supposed to be a big work,
but there was an unexpected twist that had came in
the mix of all that, saying and I quote, is
this all a big work? Is that what you're asking me?

(01:00:24):
Is this a work? Is this a big, elaborate, intricate
work Where I come back and I say, surprise. The
answer to that question is, in a sense, yes, this
was all one big work. The worst part about it, though,
is that it's not the work everybody thought it was.

(01:00:47):
Because I was the one getting worked so and again
they made him a deal. They rescinded it pushed back,
you know, and he had Look, he had every right
to go, how did you guys reach that number? Anybody

(01:01:07):
with common sense would go It is no different. Look,
real life people, It's no different than if you were
to go to your employer and you're like, hey, can
we talk about that raise, like it's been like three
years or whatever, and they're like, yeah, here's a quarter.
How did you? How did you get to a quarter?

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I made you guys x amount of money, you know,
for twenty twenty five alone. You know, for the third quarter,
I brought in eighty nine thousand dollars in sales. What
do you mean a quarter? How did you? And rather
than them actually break it down to you, you know,
they either get a little hot hitted or they just go, well,

(01:01:51):
you know, you got twenty four hours think about it otherwise,
so shit, pal right, So I'll orn nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Scarlett meanwhile suggested that WW handled her contract negotiations in
a misogynistic manner and seem to base her worth primarily
on her husband's cross did, however, say that WW told
him again his newly released book had no impact on
his value to them as a performer. And this is

(01:02:22):
the direct quote because this really hit close to home
for me when he said this in the video, I
jotted this down. When you tell that kid that his
story doesn't matter and you're taking money from him, and
you're telling him that subject is a relevant to the conversation,
there's no deal to be made, there's nothing to agree to.

(01:02:46):
So they said they would rescind their offer in twenty
four hours. My story, my life story, is not relevant.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
If it's not relevant, then why is it so?

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
And if it's not relevant, then why are you even
asking for a cut.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
And if it's not relevant, then why I'm sorry? But
for him in his story, that goes hand in hand
with the character, right always, yeah, because without the story,
you don't have the character.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Now you want to hear insult to injury. I'm trying
to do my best, guys, to stay on top of
SmackDown and all that. But you guys know how it is.
Guess what they're doing now?

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
So? Alistair Black and Zelina Vega? They are literally making
them the t move version of Cross and Scarlett. Hey guy,
Zelina coming out there slithering her way out like Scarlett
would do. The only thing missing is for Zelena to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Go fall and pray.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
That's the only thing that's missing. Look, I love Alistair Black,
Don't get me wrong. I love Alistair Black. I love
Zelina Vega. They've got their marching orders. Oh, they've got
their mark, so I have nothing to do with them, right.
But at the same time, I'm looking at this and
I'm going look Alistair Black cosmetically like, he looks good,

(01:04:15):
he looks scary, he looks like he can whoop a
motherfucker's ass. Right, But you know, there's only but what
let me put it to you this way. Well, let
me put it to you this way. What Alistair Black
is lacking Carrion Cross has, and what Carrion is lacking

(01:04:36):
Alistair has mm hm, the same things Scarlett as well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Yeah, each individual is going to have their strengths and weaknesses,
you know. But here's the thing is, if it wasn't working,
why are you trying to duplicate it with another couple.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Yeah, and and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
To go back in reference to really driving that home, well,
I mean, soap operas are so outdated now, but when
you know, back when when soap operas are really heavy hitting,
it's absolutely like you have this beloved.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Character on the soap, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Are with it, You're with them, you're in so on
and so forth, and just all of a sudden, contract
negotiations and some other dumb motherfuckers in there, and you're.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Like, this is who and it's like, oh, yeah, that's
your favorite character. No, the ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
But the character that you're used to has it in space.
And then you have to get used to this other person.
But that's neither here nor there. But either way, it's
about repetition. It's about who can bring it. It's about
their story. It is about absolutely about what they've built.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
So let me put you on the spot and everybody else.
So you've seen enough of Carry and Cross and Alistair Black. Okay,
you're on the spot right now. You gotta cut one
of them. Loose who you cutting?

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Carrion seemed to be making way more excuse me, way
more waves and reference to his performances and his promos
and selling merch. So you probably should go with, Okay,

(01:06:52):
who is doing the damn.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Thing for us?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
And if you've got numbers up all the way around
between this person and that person, it's not about a
personal opinion or feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
It shouldn't be. It's a business.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
And if carrying cross which seemed to me like that's
what he was doing, then if I had to make
the choice and for my business, if this is what's
poppening right now, then of course I'm gonna go with
the more popular, and the latter is gonna have to
be cut.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Very interesting, you know that that shit just continues to
be a unraveling, you know. But he's gonna be alright,
him and Scarlett, they're gonna be already. Seems like they're
doing just fine on the free agency scene, as I
like to uh as I like to call it. You
know who's not doing too good right now? All these

(01:07:54):
Americans that Jesus Christ man, we're getting ready to go
into November. You know, used to be that song back
in the day. It's the first of the month, so
get your checks in. Come on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
You know, that's apparently not even happening. If I'm not missing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Food stamps, man, and food stamps going a lot of people.
You know, I ain't joking, you know, this ship with
the food stamps. Let me tell you something. Let me
tell you something. Being a kid on the South Side
of Chicago and then growing up in southeast d C.

(01:08:33):
And also you know California, right, Oh yeah, yeah, rough
parts in California, but mainly mainly you know Chicago, and
then d C. Food stamps man telling you I could
you know, you know, I'll keep it real with you
guys when my mom we get those food stamps. Y'all

(01:08:56):
got it so made now because now you know it's
on a CD.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
The car.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
My black ass. Remember when that ship looked like some
funny ass monopoly money and it was in a sky
blue booklet with some red government texts on it. That's
how far back I remember that ship. I remember when
and it used to come in the mailbox and my
mom would just be stalking that damn mailbox just like
everybody else would back in the day. She would get
that joint she would call my dad. Now, my mom

(01:09:26):
and dad were not married, so which is good because
at the time when he was working at Sears Tower, Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
That wouldn't have been a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
That wouldn't have been a thing. Yeah. Yeah, he worked
as the mail guy, you know, copy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
Room and oh okay, mailroom clerk.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Yeah, and then eventually he got his own little desk
and I think he was maybe like an overseer something
like that department, probably something like that, I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
And so when when my mom would get her booklet
of food stamps, her and my dad would team up
and they would go to the grocery store. And man,
I'll tell you what, I used to be embarrassed when
they would bust out that fucking book of coupons, as

(01:10:25):
I like to call them. But man, we would leave
out of there with not one shopping cart, not two
shopping carts, not even three shopping carts. We'd be out
of that joint with five shopping carts full of groceries.
And I remember I would be helping them load up.

(01:10:48):
We had a nineteen seventy five Chrysler that my dad
used to love pushing. I still it's so funny. I
was telling TAM's about it the other day. I said,
I said, you know, I just realized something. She said,
what's that say? You know my Honda that I got.
I got a two thousand and three Honda Accord. Look
it up. I said, you know what I just realized.

(01:11:11):
I said, the color scheme of my Honda Accord is
virtually the same color as my dad's Chrysler. She was
like get the fuck out of here. I said, Yeah,
what are the odds of that? I said, I don't know.
I said, it's kind of weird how certain things just
really really eerie. But anyway, we would load up backseat

(01:11:37):
trunk and then I would somehow they would fit me
in there. I don't know how. And I was doing this.
I was helping them out at like age six, seven,
eight nine, you know. But somehow my little small ass
was in there, buried with all the groceries. And we'd

(01:12:01):
go to the house. We'd drop off the first load,
and then we'd come on back. We used to have
to do at least three trips just to do all
of that. So my mom would stay with the carts. Well,
me and my dad would go to the house, drop
off the first set, come back, do the next couple

(01:12:23):
of waves and everything, and usually that third wave that's
when we would all go home together and all that.
Then we would start unpacking everything and putting everything away
and all that. And I tell you what, you know,
if you're fortunate enough with the whole food stamp situation,

(01:12:45):
you have a scenario where okay, look it's me and
it's my long term boyfriend or it's you know, this
is my husband. May not be legally, but this is
my husband because we've been together for so long, we
got kids together. If you're fortunate enough, then you can
rely on that significant other to get you through this

(01:13:06):
little hump that we're having right now with the federal
government shutdown and all that. But you know, let's let's
be real. Most people are not in that position. You know.
I was telling Tams the other day. You know, once,
once it got to a point where it was my
mom raising me as a single parent, nothing was more

(01:13:27):
vital than me going to school because I had guaranteed
two meals, you know, breakfast and lunch, and it was
a nutritious breakfast. In lunch, I got all the essentials,
and that way, the only thing my mom had to
worry about was making sure I had dinner. And no
matter what, I always had dinner, even if I didn't

(01:13:49):
want it. The food there was always there was always something.
There's always something, you know. I can't tell you how
many parents right now seeing what's going on with this
government shutdown and everything, and the fact that this shit
is triling trickling on down to the food stamps, and
tell you how like now more than ever. Let me
tell you what's happening, because I've been there, I've done that,

(01:14:11):
didn't have to do what the government shutdown, But I
know what time it is. I can promise you parents
on welfare are telling their kids do not skip school.
You know, we have to stretch what we have here
out now more than ever, you know, So go to school,

(01:14:32):
get those meals, you know, do whatever you gotta do.
I remember used to be so bad for me in
my household, you know, because sometimes we'd have, you know,
some weird hiccups, you know, here and there. There would
maybe be a delay with the food stamps and all
of that. You know, I'm not saying do this people,

(01:14:53):
but you know I was a kid, and you know
sometimes what I would do. I go shoplifting.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
You know, please don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Don't do that, Yeah, don't, don't. Don't do that, especially
with all the free programs. I see. I didn't know
at the time, but it was like, you know, I
could easily went to a food bank or you know someplace,
and well, what I was doing, I was going to
CBS or Walgreens.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
We still had a couple of people's drugs that was
out here too, you know, I go to them and
I would load up on nothing but candy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Well, actually, CVS basically took over people's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
I remember when there was still people's when I when
I came out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Here, I know what I'm saying, There was still a
couple of people prior to CVS.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, and so no, I would,
you know, I would load up on candies and and
all that ship. And then when they would come to
breakfast and lunch, I'd be asking a fellow classmates, you're
gonna eat that? You're gonna and I would, you know,
I would try to hoard as much as I could
because I knew, especially as it got later into the weekend,

(01:15:54):
especially as it got later into the weekend, because I
knew that want nothing going to be at the house
on the weekends, and I had to somehow find for
yourself and for myself, you know. So I can only
imagine what's going on with first of all, these families

(01:16:16):
that work for the federal government, right okay, And now
we are reaching some dark territory where I think now
it was said they're not getting paid like officially like now,
because I think there was like some residuals from a
couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
So their last check. Because I actually where I am,
we deal with a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Know of a lot of federal employees. So basically, one
of the federal employees said, for her they got their
last check which was about forty or fifty percent of.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
What they normally get and that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
So I don't know what they're going to do when
the next two weeks come, but I assume that there's
going to be a lull of you know, for however
long this shutdown happens.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
And if correct me, if I'm wrong, y'all, but if
I remember correctly, even when this does get resolved, they
aren't going to get No. From what I understand, they're
not going to get any BACKPA like last time. They're
not going to get I'm pretty sure I heard that right.
So this is pretty you know, these are people's livelihoods.

(01:17:34):
And see here's Letterally just peek the curtain a little bit,
a little bit back for you guys. So remember what
I was talking about earlier is certain reason why I'll
say certain things on this show because it all ties back.
So remember what I talked about earlier about writing for
the campus paper, my original story that I wanted to

(01:17:59):
work on, and I pitched it to our editor. I said, hey,
I want to talk about the government shutdown. And I
told him, I said, I realized it's a time sensitive
thing because the government shutdown could end any minute and
then it's oh shit. But I and I told him,

(01:18:20):
I said, I'm feeling so confident that it's going to
last much longer, that it could last as long as
this administration's last term where it was longer, or longer
where I think the last term it was thirty five
days that it lasted. And I told him, I said,

(01:18:41):
here's my angle. I want to look at the trickling
effect that it will have on local momd pop businesses
because you know, and downtown because you know, when COVID hit,
you know, the these respected places, you know, they barely

(01:19:02):
barely survived. Most of them folded to make way for right,
and then when the government shut down happened, you know,
pretty much the same deal. And now it's renting and
repeat pretty much again. And I wanted to talk about
how ultimately the impact would trickle on down to students, because,
without a doubt, students have parents that not to about

(01:19:24):
a ten, right, right, especially if it means you know,
well Timmy or Sally they didn't have to worry about
AFASA a joint for financial aid because mom and dad
they could have just cut a check in here you go,
make sure it goes to the school for your tuition,
and that would have been the end of that. And

(01:19:46):
my editor was like, my editor was like, this is good,
but I just feel that with Washington Posts and other
mainstream papers, even with the angle connecting it back to
you know, our students, there's already enough material out there
covering it. And it was kind of like, Okay, I
personally feel from what I've been reading.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Feel that they're not as much as is you know,
I mean, grant, you don't want to paint the picture
all doom and gloom, okay, but you know, be real,
be real about the situations that most Americans are.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
In right now, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
And it was kind of a funny, you know, situation
where we were talking, you know, myself and Lee, We're
talking on the ride home from last week that essentially
so many American families are struggling right now and this

(01:20:52):
is prior to the shutdown, but you know, and two.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
Food and sufficiency to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Bills that are you know, it's kind of like, okay,
do I eat this week or do I pay this
bill so that I can still have you know, lights, water,
whatever medicine, you know, So it's it really is.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
I never and guys, hear my heart on this.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
I never thought, ever, ever, ever, ever in my lifetime
would I ever have to choose or make a certain
amount and think that it would never cover my essentials.
You know, I do a lot of griping about money

(01:21:45):
sad times, but I am blessed because there are people
that don't even have what I have. They're wondering, they
don't have an additional one hundred two hundred, three hundred
five hundred dollars to say I can do that comfortably.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Well, let's take it a step further, and I'm glad
you're finally feeling I was trying to tell you the
whole time. Sometimes TAM's will give herself a little pity party.
Sometimes I'll i'll and I'll come along, And because we've
done the reversal over the years, I would be the
doom and gloom, you know, right right right right, motherfucker.
And somehow I don't know somehow we got the like year,

(01:22:34):
somehow we got like year twelve or thirteen, and all
of a sudden it flipped. So I guess it's safe
to assume every twelve years we're gonna flip personalities. I
don't know, Like, you know, now I'm the nicer one.
I'm the more level headed one, and I'm the more
reasonable one, and she's the more it's all fucked. We're

(01:22:54):
so fucked. We're just shit out of luck. You know,
it's like damn. I remember telling her a couple of
weeks ago because she was boohoo hoo and over over
the car, her car having some type of weird issue.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
So yeah, there was a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
And I told her, I said, I said, babe, I said, look,
you don't know what's going on. Don't lose sleep, don't
don't have an anxiety over your car. Worst case scenario,
you got my Honda and you also got mom's car.
You know, you got your mom's car. Like, look, that's
all I said. Most households like they don't even have

(01:23:36):
three cars. Most households like there's one car basically right, Like,
so just imagine trying to do what you need to
do with one fucking car, and this person needs to
be here by a certain time, and this person's got
disappointment and all this other weird shit, you know, But
to your point, you know, yeah, most people. Yeah, just

(01:23:57):
when you think, as I always like to bless you,
as I always like to say, just when you think
you have it worse, if you really take a step
back and you really think about it, there's always some
other person or family that has it much worse, that
has it much worse. And I can only imagine what's
going on with these federal government employees, because you know,

(01:24:22):
like unless they've got a nice little ness tucked away.
And then even at that, how long has that gonna last? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
You know, you might have you know, a month, two three,
you know, tucked away just because you know, this is
something that you're you're used to in working in the
federal government.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
At any time there can be a shutdown.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
But you know, how much do you really have and
with the inflation and everything else that you've.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
Got going on? Again, Yeah, how long is that gonna last? You?

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
You know, And and then depending on the size of
your family, it lasts you even less.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
Was it you or maybe me?

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Was it you? A family of ten.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
No, basically, there was a person that my mom had
the pleasure of having a conversation with as my mom,
you know, works for one of our local grocery stores
out here, and she literally said, and the neighborhood where
she works is not hurting, so it's a more upstream financial,

(01:25:34):
you know, neighborhood. And she said, and I quote, I
never thought that making over one hundred thousand dollars a
year that I could not take care of my family
of five.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Now, let that sink in. Let that fucking sink in.
That is just mind blowing. Oh yeah, that was the
alarm to uh, that was the alarm to move the car,
but it was already moved. Yeah, let's let that sink in.
And then you got all these food drives, which you know,

(01:26:09):
which is great, it's great. But here's my problem with
these food drives. And not only that, but can we
really assume the food's going to the right We can
only hope. We can only hope, right, because we've seen
we've seen some of those news reports. We're not lying
to you. We watched news reports where free backpacks were

(01:26:34):
being given away a couple of months back to the
needy m and one lady that was being interviewed, she
had the audacity to say, yeah, it's just nice what's
happening out here? You know, it's you know, it's it's
nice that you know, we can come up here and
get free stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
And I was like, no, yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Keeping alone.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Yeah, And then she had the nerve to say, well, yeah,
I just don't have time and yes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Yes, like this ain'ting else so mrch so just imagine
the motherfucker. Oh wait, they're giving free food away where exactly. Yeah, yeah,
it's really nice that they're that they're doing this for
the uh, for the workers and all that. You know,
I personally, I just I don't have the time right
now to go grocery shopping. So you know, I was

(01:27:31):
on my way home and and all.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
This dry and it was free, you know, not cool,
not cool.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Oh oh wait, you mean this wasn't for me? Oh well,
uh well, you know, too.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Bad, pretty much. And I'm gonna tell the whole world
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
If you follow me on eBay, I'm sure we can
make a reasonable deal. But it's but it was supposed
to be free.

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
I thought you were gonna say you followed me on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Nah nah nah, the mother the motherfuckers are savages, man, motherfuckers.
I'm gonna put this short eBay and I'm gonna make
a profit. How bad do you need that loaf of bread, buddy?

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
Oh lord, you know that's how they forget. It's gonna
be molded.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
That's how they are. Man fucking savages. Man, seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
But the other flip side of that is she definitely
stated she was very appreciative of a lot of the
companies who were trying to give back to the federal workers,
whether it would be you know, a half priced meal
or a certain amount off, or.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
You know, obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
The chef that's always basically just lending a hand in
every hardship. When it was in COVID, I think Andrea,
I want to say, it's on something, Andrea, Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
In his restaurants there's free lunches for federal workers Monday
through Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
And so in you know, programs that way and reference
to giving back and really trying to help out the community.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
And I wish I could see more of that throughout
versus yep. My my husband's favorite line of Chloe's yep,
sex to be you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
I am going to just say this. I'm going to
say this without going to into the weeds. All I'm saying, Microsoft, NBC, Universal, Amazon, Meta,
and anybody else that I did not name that has
contributed to the ballroom. There are more bigger, important things

(01:30:01):
that are going on.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Right now that you could essentially donate money and time to. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
There's still time. There's still time, right cause that same
energy that you just put into that, you can take
that same energy and you can do something really really
good for lots of Americans right now, especially the needy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
And here's the thing, a lot of these needies. I
really need people to understand a lot of these people
that are in a needy position right now. It's not
them whining, it's not them begging. This is a case
where they were functioning just fine prior and then it's
like you just took an axe and you just chop
their goddamn legs off. So you know, that's all I'm saying.

(01:30:53):
That's all I will say, y'all read in between the
lines on that one. That's all I'm saying. I just
need that same energy that was put into the ballroom,
put that same energy That's that's all I'm saying. Yes,
that's all I'm saying. Especially Amazon. You know how much
money they get monthly, fucking daily, fucking monthly off of

(01:31:14):
customers every minute. That's what I'm saying. It's not it's
not that. It's not the Amazon that I remember. Let
me put it to you that way. If this goes on,
what's the word I'm looking for, If it goes unchecked
and they don't do their part two, the optics of

(01:31:35):
that just really looks fucked up it and it doubles
down on the narrative. Spind I don't know if it
was you ever, somebody else I was talking to that
basically had said, oh this just without a doubt, it's
all about the elitis. Oh absolutely, you know. You know
I'm saying all this, and I'm thinking about one of

(01:31:56):
my favorite motor hit songs right now, come on, baby
eat the rich life is the son of a bitch,
you know. I mean, that's how it really is right now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
But okay, so let's go in the same direction, but
in this mission of a different direction, because this is
actually something that happened to come into my mind while
we're talking about this particular subject. So Monday at my job,
we have already been having some IT issues with certain things,

(01:32:30):
and so Monday morning comes, I'm like, okay, great, I'm
gonna call our IT support.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Oh the AWS outage. So many people could not look
at porn. Oh my god, it was so unfortunate, so unfortunate.

Speaker 7 (01:32:51):
Such a big problem. Sad, sad sad thing, sad thing
when you wake up in the morning and you can't
look at you born so sad, so sad.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Well, certainly I wasn't doing that. I was at work.

Speaker 7 (01:33:09):
Many Americans looking at pornography at work.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
It's true.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
It's true, all right, you crazy ass old man. AnyWho.
So with.

Speaker 7 (01:33:23):
We're gonna do so many great things with the internet.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
See, this is what this man needs to stop because
these shipping clips could give out to the wrong people
when he gets where he needs to go.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
So AnyWho.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
A reference to I'm trying to call the IT support
and I mean IT rings and IT rings and IT
rings and IT rings and IT rings and IT rings
in the rings and I'm like, okay, message no, I'm like,
this is something I need to function in this office today.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
And I'm like okay, So I kidd you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Not it was at least an hour and a half
before I actually physically got someone on the phone, and
it was actually the bottom tier person because that's because
we are actually with this particular company. We are, you know,
we paid the highest tiers. So it's kind of like, okay, anyway,

(01:34:30):
and then finally gets something in reference to a person
on the phone that knows what they're talking about, because
the first person was like, I'm like, this is not
the conversation I'm used to having. You don't act like
you know shit, So okay, So anyway, and I'm just
like hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
And so finally he says, oh, yeah, you know the
Amazon outage. Yeah, their cloud system went down. Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
He's like, yeah, their cloud system went down. He said,
that's why we've been so busy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
I'm like, oh, okay, So but basically.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
I'm getting I'm getting to the point where their cloud
system went down in an affected millions of people. So
it's like, why are you giving that much power to
one company?

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Okay. I was wondering, like how that connected back to.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
Why are you giving that much power to one company?

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
So again, so basically.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
It's like, okay, so you have all of this under
one iCloud backup server.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
However, you want to splice it right, Okay, you want
something something in that respect, something big can happen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Okay, hang on, hangout, time out, time out, time out,
time out, time out, time out, time out, time out,
time out, flag on the ground. How does this Because
I gotta I gotta be Devil's advocate for the listeners,
help us understand. How does this tie back to helping
the families, the needies? And okay, so before the same companies, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
What I would say.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
Well, first of all, if you've got a cloud system,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
How much you're charging people for that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
And but that's what I said before when I said, yes,
it's about Amazon, but it's a different direction.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
And that's okay, okay, because you went way deep in
the weeds there and I.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Was like, yes it's about Amazon, but we're going in
a different direction clouds.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
If nobody was paying attention, that was like, okay, you
said you was going to take me to White Castle.
We went through the woods. We done went through about
eight acres and like now, all of a sudden, somehow
I ended up getting hog tied to a tree.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
Oh god, but a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Ball ass naked and banjo's playing in the background. Well,
you know, no, I'm with you now, I'm with you. No,
that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
That's it's just, you know, it's become it's not even
just a company. It's not even a fucking mega company.
This motherfucker is a juggernaut.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
It's Buckeye hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
Something like that. BUCkies.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
It's BUCkies, Yeah, BUCkies. It's BUCkies.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
Okay, so now who's going through the weed. But anyway, yes,
that's just it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
That's just an easter egg for us to know. That's all.
We don't need to go.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
No, that's just it's absolutely BUCkies.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
It's BUCkies. So but my basic point two hundred gas pumps, Yes, my.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Basic point on this in reference to this being this
juggernaut company that is built to be.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
Number one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
You mean to tell me you can't help the people
that are basically funding your juggernut company on a daily
basis number one?

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
Number two?

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Do you know what kind of security risk that puts
us at.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Well, hang on, let's hang on, let's not get two
into the weeds. I feel you, I feel you're coming
from that. I feel whe you're coming from I fool
you're coming from now. Let's loop it. Let's really doubt
this back in now. Besides what I just mentioned earlier,
what these companies can do, you know something else I'd
like to see. It would be good PR what I

(01:38:38):
would like to see Jeff Bezos and company do. I
don't see this happening. But if I was their PR,
their their legal REPP or whatever, I would say to
Jeff Bezos and crew. Look, we got data. The spreadsheets
don't lie. A lot of the money that comes in

(01:39:01):
for us from our Amazon customers is from federal workers.
If you can back up the data and show that
you know in the top five federal workers, is there.
I think what would be a really really good ass
thing to do. Every single Amazon Fresh store should have

(01:39:24):
it set up so that if you could prove that
you are a federal worker, m you get free groceries
or at least or that. Okay, if I understand you
got to make a profit. Okay, if you want to
be like you got to make a profit, okay, fifty,

(01:39:44):
but you gotta do But you gotta do one of
those things.

Speaker 4 (01:39:47):
Really, I mean, yeah, you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
You gotta do one of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
You might not be able to have And actually that's
a really great pr Yeah really really yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Okay, who's who's the other people that's running around? Okay,
I just said NBC Universal, Comcast, Comcast, Comcast can be like,
if you could prove that you're a federal worker, bill,
who's the other ones?

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Hell? Or fifty off your bill?

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
Or one hundred dollars credit Meta Meta which owns Instagram
and Facebook. You know, that's a tricky one because it's
social media. So I don't really know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
Okay, if you can prove you're a federal worker, then
we're giving five five visa cards, hell ten a week, okay,
okay five, it's if it's a week every week while

(01:40:58):
the government is shutdown to federal works.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
I can get behind that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can
get behind that. Okay until the shut down ends, Yeah,
I get behind that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
So and and you know, because these people are not
asking for handouts.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
No, that's the that's the that's the real kicker they are.

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
They have been put in a situation that they never
asked to be put in, So.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
You know, why not And and that's just what what
somewhat infuriates me of how you literally are.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
Leaving the American people that you serve in all forms
of government.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Okay, okay, so now government, So now this ties to
before the record, not just want to be sure before
you any further. I'm like seven seconds, ties into the
people that are supposed to be representing us and has
our best interests at heart, correct, that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Are too busy fighting with each other on which ones
is bigger then than doing the right thing for the
people that they serve. I mean, Americans are really feeling
it in so many different ways.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
You know, and it's really sad.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
It really is sad that it's not even about the
people anymore. You know, when we grew up in the
eighties and nineties and hell even early to twenty tens,
and you know, okay, you had some you know, people
that were like, yeah, I'm you know, about my own agenda,
so on and so forth, but not really generally it

(01:42:58):
was okay, this is what America voted for. And generally
it's like, okay, well, you know, we can work with it.
Now it's an all out bashing session of whomever, meaning
the American people, bashing whatever governor, center president, whatever you

(01:43:21):
want to call it. And and it's just there's there's
programs but I just see so much need and not
enough help. M that's just my two cents from a distance,
and what I see.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
I can go in so many directions with that one.
But I'm not. I'm not. I agree with you, though,
but I can. I can catch me on the right
day in a in a chatty government little I'll, i'll,
I'll give you the real skinny, but eh on a
little bit of a lighter note, kind of switching it up.
Shout out to June Lockhart, who is known for Lassie

(01:44:09):
and Lost in Space. She was one of the last
surviving stars from the Hollywood's Golden Age era. She passed
away at the age of one hundred this week. She
was also known for movies like A Christmas Carol and
Meet Me in Saint Louis, Hey one hundred years. That

(01:44:31):
is really really good, especially given the fact that she
died of natural causes. According to her family, funeral services
for Lockhart they remain private. But yeah, her career, as
I mentioned, span film and television. That's a hell of

(01:44:53):
a stretch man. Born in nineteen twenty five. So rest
in power to her. Talk uh talk a little talk
a little football here, because last time we checked in
with people. We gave our predictions and everything, and what's
the commander's record?

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
Now, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
What are they now? Like three and four something like that.
That sounds right, So what are what have you been
seeing that you know has been working and stuff that
needs to be there. Yeah, they are three and four
right now, so they are just under uh, they're almost
at four hundred. I remember they play on Monday against

(01:45:40):
the Kansas City Chiefs, which I'm already calling that right now.
That's that's definitely gonna put them at three and five.
That's definitely three and five. Yeah, especially if you ain't
got Jayden Daniels plan.

Speaker 4 (01:45:52):
Right, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
You do have Deebo Samuels and McLaurin backed Monday. Now,
those are two really really power, big powerhouses.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
For the commanders.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Now, could that help Mariota maybe, but he's I don't know,
he's inconsistent.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
Number one.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Number two, I really feel with all the injuries.

Speaker 4 (01:46:25):
That they've really had.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
A hard time getting going, and every time they have.

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
Something getting going, somebody gets injured.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
And right now it's Jane Daniels and he's been injured
twice already this year. So meaning that he's gonna miss
Monday's game. So and even too, you know, obviously you
know last year he was fired. This year, I really

(01:46:59):
do feel like there are some missing pieces. You know,
the camaraderie is there. They you know, the team loves
their quarterback and Jaden Daniels. That's that's not the problem.
It's just I don't know if it's just I don't
know whether it's just different moving pieces, you know, and

(01:47:26):
the interceptions, uh, missed, missed and dropped passes, penalties.

Speaker 4 (01:47:34):
Have really been getting them, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
Where it counts in, which is you know, the lost column.
So it really is there's something, there's a missing piece there,
and I think, if I'm gonna be honest, it's probably
the injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Is the injuries is definitely a part of it, because
you got a number of key starters has already missed
multiple games this season, and without a doubt, the roster
is facing serious attrition on both offense and defense when
you think about it, and then the team is being

(01:48:12):
rumored to try to move for a wide receiver and
Brian Thomas Junior, he played alongside Jayden Daniels in college,
so you know, you can look at that as a
possible move to bolster the receiving corpse that obviously it's
been decimated by injury. So you know, you could definitely go.

(01:48:34):
You can definitely go in that direction. But the spread
right now does not look good so far as Commanders
are being looked at as underdogs, would have spread of
plus eleven point five.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
So I never thought, out of the high that we
had last year that literally we would be damn near
last place in the division.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
It makes sense, though, it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
It's right on trend historically, that is what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Well, you're not dead last because remember the Giants almost
yahause the Giants are two and five.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
So, and just to kind of give you guys an
update on what always happening in the NFC East and beyond. So,
Cowboys looking real good. They're five and two. Cowboys are
three and three, Commanders three, four Giants two five. NFC
North the Packers four and one, Lions five, two Bears
four two Vikings three four, NFC South Buccaneers five two

(01:49:43):
Panthers four to three, Falcons three three Saints one six ouch.
NFC East forty nine Ers five two Seahawks five two
Rams five two Cardinals two five.

Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
And meanwhile, in the af C East, Patriots five to two,
Bills four to two, Dolphins won six Jets. Check this out, y'all,
Jets zero and seven. AFC North Steelers four to two.

Speaker 4 (01:50:22):
Shout out to Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Fuck him. Oh, Mike Tomlin. I like Mike Tomlins. Bengals
three four Browns two five Ravens very shockingly one in
five AFC South Colts six' one No, Andrew Luck did
not come back to play Jaguars four and three, Texans

(01:50:46):
two four Titans won six. A f C West Broncos
five to two, Chargers five three Chiefs four three Raiders
two and five. Okay, so that is the Stott, that's
the stats I was looking so far. We'll circle back
next week or the week after and see our we're looking.

(01:51:09):
As far as our predictions have went. I think I'm
I think I'm in a really good I think yeah,
because you was like you was like that girl in
front of the chalk bar and another one, thank you,
another one, thank you. I mean you was just like
when when when I'm like I'm quiety looking at you,
I'm just going, yeah, are you sure? Yeah? I definitely

(01:51:34):
remember saying to you, are you sure, yeah, sure, yeah,
let's talk about the regular NBA regular season kickoff it
went down this week. Not to get all too nitty
gritty and everything, but I gotta tell you, it was
fantastic seeing the boys inside the NBA back.

Speaker 5 (01:51:54):
You know, I.

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
Was this is Lee's guilty pleasure, That's my guilty pleasure.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
I look, I'm not gonna lie to you guys. A
lot of times, I care more about the pre show,
the post show, between shows, in between show. I care
about that with the boys more than I do about
the games, especially if it's a shitty ass game and
it's like you know, I want to hearing on the show.

(01:52:22):
It felt like it felt like you were watching the
same show. It was just on a on a new network.
That was it. So, I mean, I love the fact
that ESPN heads did not try to change anything. I
really appreciate that they were their fun, jubilant, colorful. I mean,

(01:52:43):
they literally picked off where they left off from the
last time we saw them some months back. So I
thought that was great. I love the new teams that
they have for ESPN, as far as the new commentary team. Look,
as long as I know Mark Mike Breen is in
the mix. I'm good. That's ultimately all I care about.

(01:53:05):
You can take out the other people, put indoors Burke,
or whoever you want to put in there, just as
long as I know Mike Breen is calling one of
the games. He's the main one. I'm good. But I
thought that was I thought that was one point I'm
thinking to By the way, Uh, it's gonna be interesting

(01:53:27):
to see what happens with Popeyes going forward, because uh,
because man, they they they was loving name dropping Popeyes.
I can't wait to see if Popeyes hooks them up
with a nice little gift basket or something. You know
what's gonna be the real, the real bitch though, when
they get their little Popeyes gift baskets, that's gonna be

(01:53:51):
freshly made, properly made just for them. I'm gonna be
so jealous of them because we always got to get the.

Speaker 5 (01:53:58):
Well, I guess it's cooked and maybe maybe not maybe
maybe smells good, smells good, but it didn't get cooked
all the way. You know, we're gonna we're gonna stay
getting the bad ship.

Speaker 4 (01:54:11):
So that's no we actually so guys, for real, for real.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Biscuits are good.

Speaker 4 (01:54:15):
The biscuits are good biscuits.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
We actually have one Popeyees, so we this is the
conversation that we generally are having. It's like, oh, well,
you know, if we want Popeyes, It's like, yeah, Popeyes,
that sounds good. And Lord, all of a sudden, right
now now I'm actually starting to want Popeyes. But we

(01:54:38):
have the it's kind of like, okay, so for the
for Popeyes, we can go to these two places in
our area, and then we just skip right on over
one of the places and the one place that he's
actually referring to is the closest to our house.

Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
And it's always busy, mind you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
But this day sucking up the cooking, Yeah, I have
gotten sick.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
You have gotten sick, mom, mom in law has gotten
sick off that ship. I mean, it's just you know so.
But but the the inside crew did fantastic sham who's
the who's the guy that charms their new NBA insider.

(01:55:28):
I don't know if he was. I don't know if
he was kind of taken back by the fact that
he's now working with Ernie and the guys. But when
they were talking about the whole NBA illegal gambling stuff,
the mob stuff that was going on. I'm not ready
to comment on that just yet. I'll talk a lot

(01:55:48):
more about that, maybe on the Monday Show, because it
wouldn't be fair to TAM's Yeah, but I mean it's
you know, you thought the referee scandal was kind of
bad back in the day. This just blows the fuck
out of that. But I don't know what was going
on there with dude. I don't know if it was
an audio glitch, because sometimes that will actually happen too,

(01:56:10):
where you'll have a significant audio delay and yeah, it'll happen,
but hopefully he fine tunes and will be better as
the week's posts. It could have been. It could have
been the NBA on NBC. I thought there was some

(01:56:32):
from a production standpoint, since I'm an expert in that,
I thought there was some nice things that they did
that kind of caught my eye. For starters, kind of
seemed like they were going with the NBA jam effect
thing every time somebody was scoring, Like if somebody had
did a slam dunk, they will put up this little

(01:56:54):
slam graphic text right above the number of points. I
thought that was kind of cool, And then like if
a two pointer was made or a three pointer. They
do these little cool graphics that way.

Speaker 4 (01:57:08):
Now the counter fell asleep for the first.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
That was no, that was Prime video. That was Prime Video. Yeah,
NBC's broadcast it was smooth, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:57:21):
It was particularly a fan of the drone.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
Yeah. Yeah, of all the broadcasts, it seemed like NBC
were utilizing, uh, some type of a drone for a
lot of their hy crowd shots and all that. I
thought that was pretty good. The team of Mike ta Rico,
I'm trying to think who else. Who else was Reggie
Miller and Jamal Crawford. I thought they all jailed very well.

(01:57:50):
Bike Mike Turco particularly smooth transition back to talking basketball.
I thought I thought he did. I thought he did
really really good.

Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
I like him.

Speaker 2 (01:58:05):
I actually like my So remember we were talking about
Ama Rashad and bringing up the question how come he's
not incorporated off the break? Well, apparently at some point
this season he is going to be brought back in.
So that's good. That would be nice to see him again.

Speaker 4 (01:58:20):
Good to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:58:20):
Yeah, I we have someone in the family who.

Speaker 4 (01:58:28):
Worked for NBC for many, many, many, many, many many years.

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
Who has you know, perspective thoughts about Amad, but right, yeah,
but doesn't take away from his ability to really perform
his job.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
Well, I've heard the same thing about Ama Rashad over
the years. Believe it or not, I've heard that the
Michael Jordan effect. It's still too early.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
I think, if this is my two cents from a distance,
I don't know if this is what they're gonna do,
but I do have a feeling that they're going to
probably do the segmented interview first, which is essentially what
they're doing right now, and then once they're done with that,

(01:59:20):
I think, like really really big games. I think he
will do some corresponding.

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
I hope he does. I hope he does, because otherwise
it was just then that's just a.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
Fruitfrew to promote the fact that it's back on NBA,
I mean on NBC.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Yeah, yeah, so that was them. I did watch Prime
Video now Prime Video. Their team is a little bit shaky,
a little bit shaky. Steve nash derk Nowinsky, the guy's

(02:00:01):
name starts with a you. I'm trying to think you,
Oh my god. Hang on, guys, because I want to
make sure I give him proper respect. We're trying to
what's his name? I can't think of his name right now.

(02:00:22):
Maybe if I go back and look at my Twitter
feed real quick, I'm trying to find it. But no,
they were shaky on the pre and halftime show, I felt,
but where those guys really really shined is when they
were able to really talk about the game. And if
you are an ex'es and O's type of person, you

(02:00:44):
really really will appreciate that. I mean, it was the
most exes and O's analytical talk that I've heard between
all of them, and it was like, oh, wow, like
you guys are really really okay, like that, that's what's up?
U D U D Yeah, he did really, really good.

(02:01:07):
There's a video clip that's floating around where you guys
can find it online. It was really good. And then
their basketball commentating team, Kevin Harlan, you also had Dwayne Wade,
Candice Parker. They all did great. I hope I don't

(02:01:33):
have the networks mixed up, but Iron Eagle and stan
Van Gundy. Remember I said, hey, is he okay? Because
he's shaken too much? That was Friday? I feel like
was that Friday? Because if that was Friday, that was prime. Yeah,
I'm a little concerned about stan Van Gundy because he

(02:01:54):
was doing you know, some there was some weird trimmers
going on there. I'm hoping it was maybe nothing to
Muhammad and the chat. I'm not talking NXT Halloween Havoc
until Monday show, so for Muhammad and everybody else in
the chat. If you guys haven't noticed the pattern by

(02:02:15):
now with wrestling with the topics, unless it's a universal
topic that like Tammy can easily slide into without any issues.
I try to hold stuff like that off until the
Monday solo shows because otherwise I would just be sitting
here going through it, and TAM's would just be sitting

(02:02:37):
there in silence. So but I think the actual question
that you should be asking, instead of what did I
think about NXT Halloween Havoc, the correct question should be
did I watch Halloween Havoc? No, I have not watched
Halloween Havoc yet. I have been enjoying a well deserved

(02:02:58):
few days off from the midterms and headaches that I
had to go through this week. I've been matter of fact,
yesterday I sat down, well, I was hitting miss and
a few other people up with that private video. I
was messing around with something in an Adobe premiere. I

(02:03:23):
was editing a video and it didn't work out the
way I thought it was gonna work out. And the
next thing I know, hours later, TAM's comes home and
I go, hey, I'm like, and I was supposed to
put up I was supposed to put up some paintings
and all that in our living room. And there was

(02:03:43):
a Christmas tree because I was telling Tams and said,
go online, look for a Christmas tree. Let's get let's
get into the holidays already. Let's get the ball wrong.
Let's get started on it early. So TAM's like a
order the Christmas tree. Great, when's it coming Monday? Oh,
I'll be here like I got glasses. One line works
out great? Oh that fucking tree guy here yesterday. So

(02:04:04):
I was like, hey, all right, cool.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
So we have a ring and I'm just looking at
the ring, you know, because of course our fucking front
door is like fucking Daytona five hundred in reference to
everybody just walks through, and of course every time everybody
walks through, basically the ring goes off.

Speaker 4 (02:04:27):
So every time the ring goes off, I'm like, what
is that big ass box that's in the that's in
the viewer. That's a big gass box.

Speaker 3 (02:04:38):
And I was like, okay, well, that's weird because in
my mind it was like, oh, that's Monday.

Speaker 4 (02:04:44):
And and so I get.

Speaker 3 (02:04:46):
Home and and the box wasn't there, and I'm like
and I get and I looked in the hallway and
I was like, Oh, what's in the.

Speaker 4 (02:04:54):
Big gass box? He's like the tree. I was like, oh,
oh wow, that was early.

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
Because I literally, guys, I literally ordered it yesterday.

Speaker 4 (02:05:05):
Benefits of being a prime member, of course, but AnyWho,
so I'm like, oh, okay, cool. And generally, guys, I
will say that I usually like to put up the
tree earlier.

Speaker 3 (02:05:21):
Now, my early is more defined by before Thanksgiving doesn't
usually happen. Usually it's like the first week of December.
So Li says, yeah, put up the tree. It's not
even Halloween yet. Wow, no time like the present. And

(02:05:42):
I was like, okay, well you're.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
Gonna put up the tree.

Speaker 4 (02:05:46):
So okay.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
So he.

Speaker 3 (02:05:51):
Gets the tree out of the box, he sets up
the sand, and then the tree. You know, we have
artificial tree guys. To be honest with you, I.

Speaker 4 (02:05:59):
Love the smell of the real trees, but I.

Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
First of all, don't want to decorate them, and secondly
the fire hazard.

Speaker 4 (02:06:07):
That they are.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
Yeah, and third.

Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
My baby girls would probably try to eat it, especially
one of them.

Speaker 2 (02:06:14):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (02:06:16):
Yes, So all that being said, we decided to, you know,
go for an artificial tree. So and the tree, you know,
the branches are falling and and Lee's like, so, so
what do you do with it now? And I'm like, well,
you spread out the ranches. You know this part it's
always been done.

Speaker 4 (02:06:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:06:36):
Basically, it's like, okay, I brought the box up, you
you figure it out, and it's like, okay, I mean
I've been decorating, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
And the funny part is I was doing the tree initially,
but she kind of pulled she kind of pulled her
dad's move and she eventually politicked her way. No no, no, no,
no bullfucking sh Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:07:01):
No, I was minding my no no nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:07:04):
No no no, no, no, no, no no no, I
was my nigga.

Speaker 6 (02:07:07):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
I was minding my own damn business, watching TV. I'm
setting up the damn tree and everything. You like, Nah,
you don't do it like that, you got it? Like,
And I'm like, oh, okay, well did I do it right,
and then all of a sudden that that shit just said, nah,
take over. And it was like and it wasn't a

(02:07:29):
do you want to do this? Do you wanna na?
You just you win in there and you like, oh, okay,
well so much for that. And then I just playfully,
you know, kind of you know, some parts of the
tree was in front of me, and it was like, well,
says I'm sitting there, let me just kind of stretch
this out and stretch it. Nah, you took over. That

(02:07:49):
was almost It wasn't as bad as as when I
brought my TV in here, my LCD TV and your
dad tried to tell me how my LCDT LCD what
my TV, well, my TV could and could not do.
It wasn't as bad as that, but you know, it
was kind of like, well, she's taking over, which I
didn't mind because it was like, okay, if it means
just putting you in the holiday spirit, hey, I'm all

(02:08:12):
fine for it. So but the tree, it's it's much
taller than the other one. Matter of fact, there's a
picture on social media that you guys can see of
the tree and to Muhammed in the chat, you don't
need to apologize, homie, You don't need apologies. It's just
it's just one of those deals where, like again, and
I think you and everybody else could understand. Yeah, if

(02:08:32):
TAM's you know, if she hasn't watched the wrestling pay
per view in question, Yeah, that doesn't make sense for
her to just be standing, you know, sitting there beside
Lee while Lee's talking for like fifteen minutes about some
wrestling show that she didn't even watch, and you know
the awkward the awkward silence that comes with that, Like no.

Speaker 3 (02:08:54):
And guys, really for real, for real, I with my
current schedule and everything that's happening between Lee's school and
my work and the girls and so on and so forth.
To be honest with you, half the time Lee is

(02:09:16):
watching anything, I'm either not here or it's you know,
it's one of those I'm doing something. I also in
the house, So to be honest with you, it's more
like bits and pieces and sometimes if it comes across
my social media feed, I'll watch it, depending on who

(02:09:37):
it is. But honestly, I have not watched a full
pay per view in a long time.

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
Yeah. Yeah, and for me with my schedule, I mean,
if you guys are paying attention to the podcast, like
the audio version of the podcast. If you guys are
paying attention to the so the audio podcast, I'm not
even having the show promptly available for on demand and downloads.

(02:10:09):
I'm trying to get better at it. But as you guys,
you know, if you guys are looking for the audio
version of Monday Show that still hasn't been uploaded yet,
that's how busy I've been. So I try to, you know,
the one thing that I've been very consistent on, and
I'll get myself a pat on the back. At least
when it comes to the Monday live shows. I've been

(02:10:30):
able to come on live. It's just been an issue
of me sitting down, editing and then making the shit
available for all demanding downloads. But no, no, no, I want
to finish this because this is like and would you know,
despite the fact that I have not put up Monday Show,
I was looking at the podcast analytics yesterday, no, no,

(02:10:55):
earlier this morning and for this whole week, like we
tripled our numbers on downloads because it wasn't available. I
guess what the fuck is was like, what's going on?
What's going on? I don't know, but I'm like, well,
let's see if that momental can keep the following week.

Speaker 3 (02:11:17):
The funny thing that I was gonna say was, it's like, okay,
you know how for some of some of you listeners,
I know that this is before your time. Uh, it's
one of those before TVO and before the fact that
you know pretty much if you want to watch something,
you just put it on your you know.

Speaker 4 (02:11:36):
Your current provider's device, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:11:41):
But it's one of those, you know, if you weren't
there to watch it, you missed it.

Speaker 4 (02:11:47):
And Mission is probably one of the people who knows
what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:11:52):
But basically it's one of those you know what, check
it out well while he's live, and then of course,
you know, if not downloaded.

Speaker 4 (02:12:03):
Yeah, and then you know when when it gets to
be uploaded, then it gets to be uploaded.

Speaker 3 (02:12:09):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:12:10):
I was like, okay, she's taking me into the woods again.
Where she's going. I was like, yeah, what you.

Speaker 4 (02:12:15):
Said, No more dang.

Speaker 2 (02:12:19):
Trips, Muhammad and everybody else.

Speaker 3 (02:12:24):
However, I do want to have him go on a trip.
Hopefully we can make this happen. I do want to
do maybe spring break for Lee and do a couple
of days.

Speaker 4 (02:12:35):
I do want to go up to Shtown.

Speaker 2 (02:12:39):
Oh Chicago. What you're trying to do, Vienna.

Speaker 4 (02:12:44):
Well, that's if something that makes you happy.

Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
Yes, we could do that, but definitely got to hit
up the White Castle.

Speaker 4 (02:12:51):
Oh that listen. So guys, really funny.

Speaker 2 (02:12:54):
Story, right, make it short.

Speaker 3 (02:12:56):
It's very short. So last time we were in Chicago.
Literally oh they heard this one before, yeah, but literally,
well they may not heard the whole thing. So the
short version of one thirty in the morning. Lee was like, yep,
this is two damn noisy for me.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
Let's go, okay, the hotel at Midtown.

Speaker 4 (02:13:19):
Yeah, the hotel at Midtown one thirty in the morning.
Let's go okay.

Speaker 3 (02:13:22):
Fine, there's only a twelve hour drive home, no problem.

Speaker 4 (02:13:26):
Anyway, So we decide.

Speaker 3 (02:13:29):
Lee decides that he's like, well, you know what, we
haven't had a white castle yet.

Speaker 4 (02:13:34):
So he he gets I.

Speaker 3 (02:13:37):
Swear to you twenty to thirty dollars worth of white Castle,
and we take it home. We eat about two or
three that we you know, as when we got it
hot and fresh, and then he proceeds to eat the
rest in the next two to three days.

Speaker 2 (02:13:56):
I loved it. I loved every minute of it too,
and I loved every four a minute of it. So
for Mohammed and everybody else, even though we're not talking NXT,
I do want us to close out on this note.
I'm gonna throw two two real quick. One has to
do with one of our favorite movie franchises, which is Rocky,

(02:14:20):
and the other has to do with the shit going
on with Oscar and Goldberg. Let's talk about the the
Rocky one first. So in case you guys are not aware,
there is a new Rocky film that is gonna be
coming out now. Now, don't get excited just yet. This

(02:14:41):
Rocky movie it comes with a twist. So this Rocky movie,
which is titled I Rocky, is a a biography, I
guess you could say, of what's Solvester Stallone was going

(02:15:02):
through behind the scenes in the making of nineteen seventy
six Rocky. This film began filming earlier this month in
New York City and it'll continue to be filmed in
Philly and Los Angeles. Now, the casting is really really good.

(02:15:26):
They've got Anthony Ipolado who's been tapped to portray a
very young Sylvester Stallone. And if his name sounds a
little bit familiar to you guys. It should. He's twenty
six years old. And I promise you guys, as soon
as you look him up, you're going to be like, yeah, yeah,

(02:15:49):
he looks like he looks like Stallone. His last name
is spelled I double p oli. And they actually released
they still shot image of him running with his dog
buck somewhere on a buckets on a beach. And he

(02:16:12):
he is also known, believe it or not, talk about
this guy's got like just that type of face because
he's known for his portrayal of al Pacino on the
Paramount Plus mini series The Offer, which tackled the making
of the Godfather, the very first Godfather movie and all
the bullshit that was going on behind the scenes. Yeah,

(02:16:36):
and so for him, yeah, yeah, yeah, relative relatively new
actor he's been. He's been added not that long. You know,
he really started back in two thousand and six. Uh,
he was in Bella. That was his film debut. And

(02:16:59):
he's pretty much just sporadically been, you know, doing different
projects here and there. But he's got a great looking
face and I think, honestly he is somebody that you
guys definitely, yeah, I have a really good feeling about
this guy, and I think you all will too. You

(02:17:20):
know me, I have a very sixth sense when it
comes to certain things, and I definitely feel I'm on
to something there. And then we have Stephen James, who's
gonna be portraying a young Carl Weathers, a Paulo Creed

(02:17:40):
and he should sound a little bit familiar. He's thirty
one years of age. Now. When you look at him,
he does not look like the Lake Carl Weathers at all.
Doesn't look like him at all, doesn't even look like
he could maybe be doesn't even look like that. He's

(02:18:02):
basically known for he rose to television out there in
Canada because apparently he won a Canadian Screen Award for
Best Actor for his role as Track and Field star
Jesse Owens in the twenty sixteen film Race. So he
pretty much has been building off of that. He really

(02:18:27):
got started in the late two thousands, like twenty eleven ten,
somewhere around there. He got started, and he's pretty much
been kind of consistent, you know, usually doing a movie
or two, you know, every year or every other year.
Been doing some stuff in television as well. Nothing really

(02:18:52):
as far as TV goes, nothing really that, like, I
think a lot of people would recognize not unless they're
really enter their streaming stuff, then may they would recognize it.
And I'm going on and on and on about this
because when I was at Montgomery College and I was
doing my story and Concept class, one of the projects

(02:19:16):
that I had tackled, there was one assignment that I
had tackled where they said, hey, look, if you could
do a manuscript or if you could do a treatment
for any celebrity, what would it be about, what would
the movie be about? How would you try to go
about funding it? And I did this. It was last

(02:19:38):
year I had that Professor Wright. Matter of fact, when
Tammy gets ready to talk, I'm going to try to
see if I can dig into my Microsoft app real quick,
and I would not mind sharing with you guys my
original script. But I had pitched the idea of for
the viewers to understand what all was happening behind the

(02:20:01):
scenes with Sylvester Stallone trying to create the Rocky movie,
you know, trying to get the green light for it,
you know, how his life was leading up to that.
And I made the argument that I felt that was
a story that really did not get told, really right,

(02:20:25):
So I find it so fucking eerie.

Speaker 4 (02:20:29):
You know, it's so funny when you say that.

Speaker 2 (02:20:31):
Is this my cue to now while you're talking? Sure, okay, good, it's.

Speaker 3 (02:20:35):
So funny now that you say that I had forgotten
about that.

Speaker 4 (02:20:44):
Article. I had forgotten about that project that you did,
And that is very eerie.

Speaker 3 (02:20:52):
It's guys, you have no idea, a reference to the
conversations that we have behind the scenes, and so many
times I'm just like, he is eerie on it, on pulses,

(02:21:14):
on things happening, like it's it's in Kenny, Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:21:20):
So very very funny story.

Speaker 2 (02:21:22):
I do have it.

Speaker 4 (02:21:22):
By the way, it's going to be a very quick story.

Speaker 2 (02:21:25):
And you know, and let me say this, and let
me say this. This lets me know that I'm on
the right path because I haven't made it public yet.
Only TAM's knows about my general idea, if not even
more details. But she knows about my story for a
black Superman. And then she was like, you need to
write that out. This was way before, is it, Tanishi Coats,

(02:21:50):
he's a black writer and director. This was way before
he came into the picture. And you know he was
supposed to be linked for doing his own Black Superman.
But then David Zaslov, for fucking warners, decided, oh, that's
too woke, we can't do that, and so now the
project has been canned.

Speaker 4 (02:22:11):
So the very short version to where I make the
point is where I work. Lee can go into that place.

Speaker 2 (02:22:27):
And just pick up a person's general aura Tanisi coats.

Speaker 3 (02:22:33):
And he can tell me with damn good accuracy on
how long that person's going to be there, whether it
be voluntary or involuntary. And I kid you not, guys,
he is eerily accurate, eerily So basically when I said,

(02:23:01):
and I'm gonna tell you this, and I don't know
that I've ever told you this, but.

Speaker 4 (02:23:07):
Hear me now, guys, If this.

Speaker 3 (02:23:12):
Person that's sitting across from me right now realizes his worth,
which he's starting to, he could develop some screenplays that
probably would be worth mega money if because it's always
about not only the production value, but it's about the story.

(02:23:35):
And it's always been about the story for him. You know,
we could be watching whatever movie or show, how would
I do this? Who would play that person? And this
is years, guys, this isn't like okay. In the last
two weeks no, no, no, this has been since we've

(02:23:56):
actually started talking. It's only actually gotten bigger and more. Okay,
now it's pretty much every movie. So do I think
that the if he were to ever really put his
mind to it and get the right you know, get
in the right people's spaces, Oh my god, it would

(02:24:20):
be it would be something else.

Speaker 2 (02:24:23):
Let me let me read to you all this. We're
going to leave you guys with this. I don't This
isn't going to be a full blown read. This just
gives you an idea. And I'm looking at the timestamp.
This was actually two years ago almost actually, yeah, two
years ago. I see the date October one, twenty twenty three.
The name of this script that I wrote is called

(02:24:45):
Defying the Odds. Here's the introduction. From overcoming complications at
birth to pornography, almost selling his dog to pay rent,
and finding overnight break break through success in Hollywood. It
is a Cinderella story of rags to riches for veteran

(02:25:07):
actor and director Sylvester Stallone. It is a tale of heartbreak, struggle,
self discovery, and inspiration as Stallone defies the odds of
becoming a significant movie industry player. Plot I'm only going
to read to you, guys, just a certain little bit
of the plot. So I want to give you guys

(02:25:29):
an idea narrative voiceover by an older Sylvester Stallone throughout
the film. Narration will be similar to Rayleyoda and Goodfellas
nineteen ninety Born in Hell's Kitchen, a neighborhood in New
York City, Sylvester Stallone is the older son of Harold
dresser and beautician Francesco Stallone Senior and Jacqueline Jackie Stallone,

(02:25:56):
a dancer, astrologer, and promoter of women's wrestling. His father
is an Italian born in Italy, while his mother is
of French and Jewish descent. His father first came to
the United States in the early nineteen thirties. Born in
nineteen forty six, Stallone arrived despite complications during labor, as

(02:26:18):
doctors were forced to use a pair of force steps
that accidentally served a nerve severed a nerve. As a result,
this caused paralysis on the lower left side of Stallone's face.
In spite of the affecting parts of his tongue, lips,
slurred speech, and curved look, he would later become his
signature in Hollywood. Life proved difficult for Stallone in the

(02:26:41):
first five years of his life, as he spent the
first five years of his life in foster care. It's
an unfortunate position for any child to be in, as
it can be unstable and affect the overall morale of
a child. Luckily, for Stallone, he was reunited with his
father shortly after his parents divorced. Sadly, the reunion wasn't forever,

(02:27:04):
as Stallone moved in with his remarried mother and his teens.
Imagine navigating through life without a solid foundation of parents.
Imagine trying to discover yourself in those fifteen years of life,
it should be nothing more than the age of innocence.
For young Stallone, this was not meant to be in

(02:27:25):
the cards, as on top of that, young Stallone dealt
with being bullied constantly. To combat this, he looked into
bodybuilding and acting. Stallone figured he could live a better
life if he had the right size, look and acting skills.
From nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy five, Stallone studied

(02:27:46):
and majored in drama. As he would discover during this period,
becoming an overnight sensation in Hollywood would not come instantly.
From working odd jobs like driving taxi cab and working
at restaurants, Stallone worked whenever wherever, included was working as

(02:28:08):
a peorn actor. The moment Stallone was not proud of,
but felt desperate times called for desperate measures. At this point,
Stallan was evicted from his home and sleeping out on
the streets. If not for seeing a flyer promoting the
need for an actor for a pornography movie, sol Stallone

(02:28:31):
was sure he would take to a life of crime
for survival. Stallone would eventually find himself back in New
York City. Here he continued working odd jobs while strengthening
his writing skills. I'll read to you just a little
bit more because I really really want this to sink in.

(02:28:54):
Stallone always kept an eye out for any movie roles.
This included alien audition for The Godfather nineteen seventy two,
working small parts in theater plays, and landing television roles
on Police Story Kojak, and movies such as Mash Pigeons
and Woody Allen's Bananas nineteen seventy one. Sallone's moment of

(02:29:19):
triumph would come after pinning the script for Rocky nineteen
seventy six. The actor drew inspiration for Rocky from real life.
From a real life fight between Muhammad Ali and Chuck Webner.
Stallone knew he could capture the Rocky Balboa character perfectly
as he knew all the character's struggles. Stallone was writing

(02:29:42):
about his own life in Rocky. Hollywood was not interested
in taking on an unknown and unproven actor for a
starring role. As a result, the actor met resistance to
getting his script approved for pre production. Now from there
I go into the resolution. I also go into some

(02:30:03):
notes where one of the things that I brought up
was how much of an impact did his mother and
father have on his life? From a positive aspect of any,
His mother, before she died, lived in Silver Spring, Maryland.
As I was made aware of, he visited her during
her twilight years of life on numerous occasions. I also
posed a question how did his relationship with his mother

(02:30:26):
change from birth to when he moved in with her
in his teenage years. From a mainstream integration perspective, how
did growing up during decades of racial segregations change his
outlook on life if at all? And treating people as
equals regardless of race and religion, was their unease in

(02:30:49):
making the main antagonists in the movie black and superior
to the Rocky character. Was their fear of the mainstream
media backlash, because remember, even though we were in the
mid seventies, we you know, we still were dealing with
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:31:08):
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:31:12):
I mean, if you're going with the white black, fine,
But Rocky is Italian, so there was racial division within that,
just as there was a black So you know, that's

(02:31:36):
interesting because, to be honest with you, if you want
to really play it that way, they were both minorities
wand just happened to be superior because of his clout
and what he had already done in the ring.

Speaker 2 (02:31:53):
I think this was your first time hearing defining the odds.

Speaker 4 (02:31:58):
I think it's been a minute. I think you had
me read it because you do. Yeah, okay, and I
remember liking it very much when you wrote it.

Speaker 2 (02:32:11):
Okay, So the sounds familiar to you then, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:32:16):
Because I definitely when you said something about it, I
was like, oh, yeah, you did write a piece in
reference to Sevester Sloan.

Speaker 2 (02:32:23):
So it'll be interesting to see remember this this timestamp
that you know, this day that you're listening to this
show right now, because it'll be interesting to see how
much of.

Speaker 3 (02:32:34):
How much of it is actually in there and and
where they pick a pick up as far as what
year and guys, really quickly, he actually did sell his dog.

Speaker 2 (02:32:45):
For money, but he ended up getting ended up getting the.

Speaker 3 (02:32:50):
Dog back once he once Rocky was finished. But yes
he did because he was like, I can't even barely
feed myself, so and so it's very interesting not to
go in too much of the weeds of it, but
it's very it'll be very interesting to see, you know,

(02:33:12):
how much they put in there in reference to his
personal story versus the story of Rocky, you know, making
of the movie, you know, will they do the early
beginnings you know? Or won't thing or will they mainly
focus on okay, basically the documentary of you know, of

(02:33:37):
Making of Rocky.

Speaker 2 (02:33:39):
Real quick Oscar Goldberg Goldberg Goldberg went on an interview
basically throwing shade at Oscar, referencing her as some girl
again that basically surpassed his streak, ended his streak, and
everybody was coming to Oscar's defense. Oscar put out a

(02:34:00):
really nice statement and everything, but that's the gist. Of
it in a nuts. I'll definitely go more in detail
about it on the Monday Show. But thoughts on Bill Goldberg.

Speaker 3 (02:34:15):
That sounds very self serving. The very short version of
Goldberg seems like a very all about me.

Speaker 4 (02:34:32):
Egotistical fool and diva and diva.

Speaker 2 (02:34:37):
You know, I never thought I would say this. There
used to be a time where I wanted his autograph. Yeah,
and now I'm running the other way.

Speaker 4 (02:34:48):
You know, I don't Records are there, Records are.

Speaker 2 (02:34:54):
Benchmarks, Records are meant to be broken.

Speaker 4 (02:34:57):
And records are meant to be broken because of bench.

Speaker 3 (02:35:00):
Somebody is going to come along who's done it longer
than you, better than you, so on and so forth.
Respect the person's work ethic to get where you got
and surpass you. And even if you are a little
bit but heard about it, are you really going to
go on national television to make you look like an asshole,

(02:35:24):
which is exactly what I'm sure this is doing.

Speaker 4 (02:35:28):
So that's really really silly.

Speaker 3 (02:35:31):
Of him, because it comes off of I'm past my prime,
I'm mad about it, and i can't do anything about it,
and I'm not the greatest of all time. Well, first
of all, Goldberg, you never were the greatest of all time.
I mean, you were an okay wrestler, but and you

(02:35:53):
got it. And that's being generous because generally you hurt people.
Doesn't really make you a great wrestler. It just makes
you a good talking piece and a great promotional thing.

Speaker 4 (02:36:07):
That's really are y.

Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
Are In the words of Brett Harp, my two cents
fuck Bill Goldberg.

Speaker 3 (02:36:15):
Yeah that was unnecessary, That's all I got people. It
was unnecessary, absolutely unnecessary, because that's basically saying, look at me,
I'm still relevant and poo poo on whatever it was
they did, and basically downgrading the other person's achievements.

Speaker 2 (02:36:41):
You know, one of the coolest things that Scott Hall
right before he passed, when Bill Goldberg took his first
potting shot at Oscar, Scott Hall jumped out there and
told Oscar, you're a better wrestler than Goldberg.

Speaker 4 (02:37:04):
I'm sure she is, so, I mean from what I've seen.

Speaker 2 (02:37:08):
Yeah, so, I mean, you know, for Scott Hall to
say that you obviously are doing something right, correct, you know,
you're obviously doing something right. It's just you know, when
I think about Bill Goldberg, I will say this to
you guys at closing I will say this. I can't

(02:37:31):
help but go, Bill Goldberg, what have you really done
to give back to the business You've taken, You've taken,
you've taken, you've taken, But what have you really what
contributions have you really made where you can say I
had a hand in helping this person along the way,

(02:37:54):
and look at where they are now. They wouldn't have
been a future household name if it wasn't for me. No,
everything has always been what do I get out of this?
How does this make me look good?

Speaker 4 (02:38:08):
And how can it benefit me and my family? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:38:15):
You know, I don't see how people can defend that
and get behind that. I really don't me neither. I
really don't.

Speaker 3 (02:38:21):
Because to be honest with you, you know, when I used
to watch, you know, wrestling in the eighties, I always
heard the Goldberg name.

Speaker 4 (02:38:34):
And you know, maybe saw a Mattres two or whatever
have you, and I.

Speaker 3 (02:38:37):
Was like, oh, okay, But then fast forward and him
coming back or you know, in those retirement one offs,
it's almost kind of like, okay, so what the fuck's
the hype? Because I ain't seeing shit right now? And

(02:38:58):
then to hear generally four out of five matches that
you've had, You've hurt the other person because because of
your own tactics or whatever the hell is going on.
You know, come on, really, you know, just as you're

(02:39:19):
trying to make money for your family, so is that
other wrestler. And if they can't wrestle, then guess what,
they can't make money. So be prepared enough to first
of all, not hurt yourself and the other counterpart, your
dance partner. But I just to be honest with you,
it's actually something I've never said out loud to an

(02:39:43):
ending quote.

Speaker 4 (02:39:44):
I've never never.

Speaker 3 (02:39:48):
Got bought into the hype. I never thought he was
as good as he thought he was.

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Speaker 5 (02:42:35):
All those good old days.

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(02:43:23):
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