October 30, 2025 • 27 mins
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Sean Spicer is the former press Secretary for President Trump. He’s a Captain in the U.S. Navy reserves. And he’s the host of the Sean Spicer Show on “The First,” TV Network.
Sean Spicer is the former press Secretary for President Trump. He’s a Captain in the U.S. Navy reserves. And he’s the host of the Sean Spicer Show on “The First,” TV Network.
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
I don't know if you folks caught this. Last week.
I had a pretty in depth discussion with Congressman Jim
Jordan of the House Judiciary Committee's the chairman, and I
was discussing with him the day that this criminal referral
dropped a criminal referral for John Brennan brock Hussein, Obama's
former CIA director, and the criminal referral was for lying
(01:06):
under oath repeatedly by mister Brennan. Mister Brennan, of course,
infamous as Barack Obama's CIA director, infamous for being an
admitted Communist voter. And this guy lied to Congress. It's
illegal to lie to Congress and people should be brought
to account when they break the law. So he's being
(01:27):
referred to the DOJ, and we're going to see that
the DOJ does anything with it. But my conversation with
Jordan was, as it typically is, pretty in depth. He
recapped everything that Brennan had done. This is how the
conversation went. Listen to this, But after nearly a decade,
members of the Obama regime are finally having to answer
(01:47):
for what the Durham Report said they did, the Obama
Gaate Russia collusion hoax, conspiracy. You are referring former CIA
director John Brennan to the DOJ for prosecution over allegedly
lying to Congress in twenty seventeen to twenty two three.
Is this the beginning of real accountability?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Well, we'll see what I What I do know is
you're not supposed to lie, but you're definitely not supposed
to lie when you're under oath talking to the United
States Congress. And it looks like that's exactly what mister
Brennan did. He say, He told the committee I was
not involved with the dossier at all. He said that
he didn't want it referenced in the Intelligence community assessment.
(02:24):
But then when OD and I Director gabberd declassified the
House Intelligence Committee's report, it said something entirely different.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
It said John Brennan did want.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
The dossier referenced in the Intelligence Community assessment. In fact,
there's there's a story one of the CIA people confronted
mister Brennan and said, hey, there's no real evidence that
that that the intelligence used to develop this dossier was
any good.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
This looks like garbage.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
And John Brennan's response, according to another CIA official, was yeah,
but doesn't it ring true?
Speaker 7 (02:59):
He wanted to get President Trump.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
That's what we have in our letter because that's what
Tulsa Gabbert when she declassified this report, we were able
to get.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
So that's why we're referring it.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
We don't do this often, only when the evidence truly
supports it, and it looks like it does in this case,
and that's why we referred him to the Justice Department
really really quickly.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
You said it was classified.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Is it illegal in the United States to classify something
that should never have been classified to begin with, just
to hide it from the American people?
Speaker 7 (03:29):
Is that against the law?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
If that motive was there, certainly we don't know if
that was the motive, or why it was declass or
why it was initially classified, and then of course Tulsa
Gabbert then declassified it.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
We don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Here's the other thing I think supportant when you think
about mister Brennan, I think this is part of a
pattern we also included in our letter, in this referral
letter to the Justice Department back in twenty seventeen, when
it looks to me like he lied to Trey Goudi,
then a member of Congress, when Trey asked him questions
about the dossier. And then of course we were deposing
(04:01):
mister Brennan last Congress where we were looking at the
fifty one former Intel officials who signed that letter which
said the hunter about biden laptop was part of a
Russian information operation, which was all garbage.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
So there's this pattern of not.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Being square with the American people and not being square
with the Congress.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
And we think that's all important too.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
The context is all important when you look at mister
Brennan's action, how Congress misled the country. And I think
the irony is not lost on anyone. We were checking
him out about the fifty one former Intel officials and
that miss miss statement, I think stuff that wasn't true
given to the American people, and in fact, in that
deposition elied to us about the dossier from.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Cluarback in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, it has been confirmed that multiple grand juries
have been convened looking into the Obamagate Russia collusion hoax conspiracy.
How broad do you believe the Obamagate conspiracy is?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Well, this is what it all began back in twenty
fifteen twent sixteen.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Never forget the basics.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
They took the dossier that was put together by the
Clinton campaign when they hired the law firm Perkins Cooey,
who hired Fusion GPS, who hired the foreigner Christopher Steele,
who wrote the garbage document. They used that garbage document,
they put it in the ICA, as we found out today.
They also used it to go to the Secret Court
to get the warrant to spy on President Trump's campaign.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
And then they did all this.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
They used all that and changed all the intelligence community
assessment in December of twenty sixteen before President Trump is
sworn in as in his first term.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And then they go up to.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Trump Tower early January twenty seventeen and talked to President
Trump about the intelligence community assessment and specifically about the
dossier that they know is garbage.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
So they did.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
This is all began, and that's why I think it's
important that you hold these individuals accountable because it all
started back then almost a decade ago when they began
this attackle On and we know all the.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Things that happened afterward.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
There was a special console there, meant there was Alvin
brag Bonnie Willis, Jack Smith to assassinate all the stuff
that took place, all this stuff that went after President
Trump on. But it began back here with Brennan, Clapper
and Comy. And now again I think we have strong
evidence that John Brennan was not square with the United
States Congress when he was under oath.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, well you got Comy already indicted. Perhaps Brennan is
not far behind. And then d n I former d
and I Clapper could be next. Folks speaking about who's next.
A guy who was Press secretary during all of this,
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Speaker 2 (10:17):
You know for a lot of things you probably don't
know about my next guest. He's a pop culture officionado,
among being you know plenty of plenty of other things.
But listen to this MTV folks. At the end of
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the year, MTV is staple of my generation, a staple
of my next guest generation. It will go the way
of the dinosaur. Let me welcome in Sean Spicer. He's
the former Press Secretary President Trump. He's a captain in
the United States Navy Reserves, and he's the host of
the Sean Spicer Show on the First TV Network. My man,
(11:10):
welcome back.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Mighty good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
First off, the reason why I was so upset about
screwing up the last time you were going to come
on is because I wanted to be among the first
to say, oh, Captain, my captain. But that that has
gone by the way, So I congratulations and well deserved
on that. What's what's your commentary on MTV going away?
At the beginning of the year, I.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Didn't know it was still on. I mean, honestly, I
like you.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
You and I are.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Pretty close to the same age, like I grew up
when it was videos. I remember the literally the first
day it went on, you know, the first video ever played.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Video killed the Radio Star, right.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Video killed the Radio Star. That's right. How iconic is that?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But but yeah, so, I mean to be honest with you,
you know, they transitioned years ago into like shows and
they weren't playing videos, and I mean so honestly, I'm shocked.
When I heard what you were saying, I was like,
I didn't even know it was still there.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, well there you go. And you know, I remember
there used to be a battle of the bands and
actually ended up being a great band, which was def
Leppard going against a new, on up and coming band
called Quiet Riot. And they were going the Quiet Riot
had one hit song, come on Feel the Noise, right,
So it was that song versus whatever one of the
(12:30):
many hits Steph. Leopard was cranking out and they were
going back and forth and they were having this contest
to see who was the better rock band, you know,
the the and I remember that kind of stuff back
back when, you know, entertainment was kind of fun and
non political.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Well, look, I mean I actually I listened to serious
text on radio a lot when I'm in the car
or traveling around and there's an eighty station where they've
got the old DJs, Mark Goodman, Nina Blackwood.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
It was Alan Hunter.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I loved listening to them talk about like like the
history of what song was on or whatever. Anyway, I
I to me, that's what MTV was what I enjoyed,
Like I used to love we we never could afford cable.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
When I was going on to the people have Crossed
the Streets and was.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
The Nils and I would go over and just binge
with my buddy Kenny uh And and we would just
watch videos because that was the only way I had
access to it. And and so to me, that's what
I remember MTV being about, and watching videos and seeing
new songs and you know what the actual visualization of
that song was. So I mean, I again, it's a
it's a very uh it's it's it's a time gone by.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Help. I don't even do songs.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Even have videos now, like I I don't even.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Do they, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Like I remember when they when they would debut the video,
people would be like tomorrow, you know, to your point,
why a riot's new song comes out, we'll have the
video live, you know, exclusively or whatever. I don't know
that bands even shoot videos anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I haven't. I can't say I've ever seen one.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, it's about the music these days, back back, you know,
going retro, And you're right, I can't remember the last
time I watched a video of a song. I think
a lot of the country artists are still doing videos,
but it's just basically them in the band, you know,
and maybe maybe some dramatic flair. And of course, every
everybody remembers Thriller being the the vebe pinnacle of.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Vincent Price's intro to that song when he came on.
I mean, dude, I can't believe we're with everything else
going out in the world right now, Christy, you and
I are like, the audience is like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Well, I gotta be honest, you know, back in the
back when America was America, and again when politics wasn't
infecting everything, including our defense forces. And since you are
now a newly minted captain, I've got to ask you
about your impression of heg SA's reforms that that came
down the pike about two weeks ago. What do you
think about that?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, so just real quick, since you brought it up,
I have to use my standard disclaim that my views
are those of my own and not those of the
Department of the Navy's Departments of Defense. Look, I think
there's some reasonable that he's bringing up that most people
just don't understand. And so let me just give you
some contexts. I've done three tours in the Pentagon. If
you go if Christal Sato, where anybody shows up Washington,
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DC and goes down to the Department of Education or
the Department of Health and Human Services and you say,
I'm Christal Sato, I'm in the media. I've got a
show and I want to.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Go to Like they'd be like, great, h you know,
you need an.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Appointment, and like that's just how it works.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
The Department of Defense actually has an entire press core
that works out of there, which is not normal for
a government building. Right, So the Department of HHS, the
Department of Health and Human Services, you name it doesn't
have these kind of things d D. The Pentagon does,
and when they press people go in, they get a
badge of pass if you will, kind of like the
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White House, but unlike the White House, unlike the Department
of Health and Humans is unlike the Department of Education.
In do D you can just walk around right now,
the press will tell you, oh, we can't just go anywhere. Sure,
but even if you're a signed there, you can't go
down to like certain rooms, Like so I couldn't just
walk in and be like, hey, I want to go
down to what they call the chairman the tank where
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the chairman is his secure room of the joint chiefs.
But but but the media can just walk in and
out of any office, right, So uh, that's that is
let lessons locked in the same way that a normal
person could. They basically a free run of the building.
And one of the things that sexutary head Steff has
put in place is to say no, no, no, no no.
Like you guys, there are certain areas that you can go.
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There's you know, there's a food court you can go
to that. You can go to the food court, you
can walk around cera, but you're not allowed to anymore.
Just walk willy nilly throughout the entire Pentagon and and
and do it because that's this is.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Our workspace, right.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I think that people need to understand right now today,
well as of you know yesterday, the day before, they
could just walk around anywhere they wanted. And I think
hagg Sets was like, for operational security purposes, this is
not a smart move. And I get what he's doing
on that front. People I don't think who are out
who are reading the media version of the story, are
acting like somehow this is a massive crackdown. I think,
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you know, common sense reforms so that the folks who
work in the Pentagon can focus on their job and
not being surprised by someone in the press who just
walks up on them.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Again, think about anyone's workplace. Imagine right now the media
having open access to your your your office building, your
your suite of offices. You'd be like, well, I gotta
be careful now because I don't want someone looking at
it like people right now can walk into an open space.
And I think Secretary Heag Tessin is obviously very concerned
about the operational security aspects for that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, and you know what, and I don't think I'm
reminded to have another eighties reference, a late late seventies
early eighties reference. I remember this episode of Battlestar Galactica
where they welcome to count Ibli on the on the
onto the Battlestar Galactica, and all of a sudden he's
given a tour of all of these highly sensitive military operations.
And the Commander Adama played by Lauren Green, says, what
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are we running here? You know what, A guy comes,
a perfect stranger, comes on board the Galactica and we're
giving him a tour of some of the most sensitive
military operations we have. I think it's it strains credulity
that all that you know, that that our defense has
to be such an open book, in particular when you
have left wingers and Democrats out there so committed to
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making sure our enemies have all of this all of
this information about us. And as a matter of fact,
there was just an arrest made of a guy that
was trying to give UH information to communist China about
about our fighting, our US fighter planes and their capabilities.
And Sean, thank you for clarifying all of that, because
that is something I was going to get into. But
I was talking about the reforms from a couple of
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weeks ago where Haig Seth said, look, you're going to
be in shape, You're going to have. We're going to
have a slim fit and trim military, and we're throwing
political correctness out. We're the military is going back to
its primary mission. What did you think about all that?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Well, look, I people have to understand that one thing.
When the Secretary of Headset was talking about this.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He made an analogy speaking to the to the to
the admirals and the generals that were in that room,
and the senior enlisted officer officials as well, and he said,
you know, it's kind of like the broken windows approach
to crime that Rudy Giuliani used in New York back
in the nineties. And what he meant was this, if
you let the little things go, then the big things
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are harder right to acknowledge. If you sort of say, okay,
well these crimes are okay, well, then which ones are
you going after? And I think one of the things
that in the military, it's a mindset, right. So if
you think about Admiral mccraven, who's the head of Special Forces,
he used to say, first thing you do, you get
up and you make your bed. Now you might say,
you can me this is how like the guy who's
leading our special forces and saying the first thing you
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do is get up and make your bed. But Admaal
mccraven was right in the same way that Secretary Headsets
is right. If you're not caring about yourself, if you're
not caring about your appearents your physical being, your ability
to be in shape, and your mind is focused and
your body is ready to how are you ready to?
Like it's a mind body.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Approach to war fighting. Right.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
If you wake up in your slav every day, then
are you ready to take on the task of the
day that I think that that's the point at least
my takeaway from Admiral Craven's book and what I think
sex Cary head Sets driving at, which is you need
to be fit, you need to be ready, you need
to be focused. Right, war fighting is not just sitting
at a desk. It's about the approach that you take
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and if you can't be in uniform standards And remember
for all of the hand ringing Chris because everyone says,
oh my god, one other things sex Cary eggsts analysis. Hey,
we're gonna bet tests twice a year. I've been in
for twenty seven in my twenty seven year now up
until COVID.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
That's the standard.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Right.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
That was the case.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
During COVID, everything got relaxed because we couldn't meet in person.
So it was like, Okay, well it's harder to meet
in person, so we'll do it. We'll go down to
once a year, right, those have gone away. During COVID,
we relaxed a lot of the standards on on beards
and all this stuff. In Secretary and set the same
Wait a second, at some point, you know, we need
to get back to the mentality of a war fighter
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that wakes up every day and says, I'm going to
make sure that I do my best, but I'm focused
and I'm ready to take on the challenges. So in
any case, I think that it's you know, I joked
with him, he was the one, he's the presiding official.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
When I was promoted, I know.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And I said, mister Secretary, I've never prepared more for
anything in my life because knowing I was going to
have to stand in front of you in uniform. I've
been running twice a day. I shaved an hour ago, like.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I had to make sure I was one hundred percent ready.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
That's great, Sean Spicer, our guest right now, folks, former
Press secretary for President Donald J. Trump, and he is
a captain in the United States Navy Reserves, host of
the Sewn Spicer Show on the First TV Network. Speaking
of the President, you know, I I watched Bill Maher
and I watched Hillary Clinton and even Chuck Schumer giving
him credit for achieving and laying the foundation. And it's
(22:03):
more than just getting the hostages released. The buy in
from the actors inside of the Middle East Sean, the
ones who are now marginalizing Iran, marginalizing Hamas and the
terror networks, those in the Middle East, the stakeholders, the
Arab nations that want to live now in peace, tired
of this powder keg dynamic.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
There.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He got them all on board and they're all singing
from the same prayer book. And we're looking at the
Abraham Accords being advanced. But the left in this country
still refuses to give him any credit for what he
has accomplished, something that no other occupant of the Oval
Office has been able to pull off. What are your thoughts, Hi.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Totally, Look, I think the thing that people like miss
with Trump if they all want to focus on the process.
Oh my god, look at he's not using career diplomats
to solve the problem. Who is this Steve Whitcoff guy
or Jared Kushner You look at it instead of the results.
The guy just basically he got Arabs, the Israeli Hamas
(23:03):
all in the same room, and.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
The Europeans to praise.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Him, and everyone goes, yeah, but you know what, he
didn't have like five PowerPoint presentations and a room full
of deputies that made a presentation up to the principles
that was agreed off. Like, the guy gets it done.
And that's what I always focus on when you would
like I always say to folks to say, oh, but
the tween and he made fun of it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
It's like, is that what you care about?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Like the process, how we got here, not getting here,
not that the that the country is stafer, stronger, more prosperous,
the world is stafer. Like everyone's like, yeah, but he
said nice things about Putin.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Do you really give a crap.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Whether he said a nice thing about Putin or what
color the carpet was, or do you actually care about
the fact that he's trying to get He's in the
world to stop the killing of innocent civilians, the destruction
of property, all right, this is a guy who like, yes,
he may use unconventional means, he may not go by
the traditional norms that have you been used.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
By diplomats for centuries, but.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
At the end of the day, he's saving lives, making
the world safer and stronger.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
So I just get a kick.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Out of everybody on the left who is all about like, oh,
but he didn't stay the right word and he didn't
do this. It's like, is that what you really care about?
Because I think people who do that just have their
priorities backwards.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I would suggest that the way things have always been
done is what's led us to the failure that we're
in currently and and the failing West and and if
if it's failing, then why stick with it? And that's
that's the point.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Press. You just put your finger on this. Why is it?
Over and over again?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
We accept mediocrity at best, and we say, oh, but
it's always been done that way. Okay, so so willing
to always accept And I've got to run in a thing,
But I'll say that the same thing is true with NATO,
and the same thing's true with tariff. For so long
we have accepted the fact that it's Okay, to get
ripped off, I'll just use NATO as my final example.
(24:59):
And then and then I got to jump here. But listen,
here's the deal. For years, the deal in NATO was, hey,
we all agree that we'll put two percent of our
GDP into our national defense because if we are collectively stronger,
that's better. Right, Okay, so that makes sense. And for
years the deal was we all do that, and then
we'll all have each other's back. That's Article five with
(25:19):
the NATO construct. And then what happened was Europe basically said, hey,
why would we spend two percent on our national defense
when the Americans are spending a lot more and they'll
have our back. We'll spend that money on our roads,
our bridges, our infrastructure in our own countries. Social Resident
Trump finally said, wait a second, that's not a smart deal.
Like that's like going to lunch every day and somebody saying, hey, hey,
(25:40):
we'll all agree, we're all going to lunch today, and
every day somebody just say no, no, you know what, Salsado's
got the tab. And finally, at some point you go, wait,
this was never the deal was supposed to be a
lunch group. We're all supposed to pay our own way,
and now you guys are sticking me with the bill.
No one would ever accept that, and that's what we've
allowed to occur. And I think it's just And when
you stop and you think to yourself, one of the
(26:01):
things that President Trump said during the inauguration that's so
app is he goes, it's not necessarily a conservative or
Democrat or Republican or Democrat or conservative liberal.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
He goes, most of what I'm talking about is just
common sense.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
And I think that's what you go back to.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
It.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
The same thing with what he's done overseas and and
here domestically, which is I'm going to do things that
make sense to stop the insanity of agreeing to dumb things.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
And I love that approach.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well I do too, Sean Spicer, folks, former Press Secretary
for the aforementioned President Trump, Captain the United States Navy
Reserves of Reserves, host of the Sewn Spicer Show on
the First TV Network. If folks want to catch up
with you, where can they go? My man?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Best thing is either Shawn Speiser dot com or again,
I do all that aforementioned stuff on YouTube, Well I
do it on Rumble all those channels plots.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
I always love a good follow on YouTube. Just go
to Sean.
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I don't know if you folks caught this. Last week.
I had a pretty in depth discussion with Congressman Jim
Jordan of the House Judiciary Committee's the chairman, and I
was discussing with him the day that this criminal referral
dropped a criminal referral for John Brennan brock Hussein, Obama's
former CIA director, and the criminal referral was for lying
(01:06):
under oath repeatedly by mister Brennan. Mister Brennan, of course,
infamous as Barack Obama's CIA director, infamous for being an
admitted Communist voter. And this guy lied to Congress. It's
illegal to lie to Congress and people should be brought
to account when they break the law. So he's being
(01:27):
referred to the DOJ, and we're going to see that
the DOJ does anything with it. But my conversation with
Jordan was, as it typically is, pretty in depth. He
recapped everything that Brennan had done. This is how the
conversation went. Listen to this, But after nearly a decade,
members of the Obama regime are finally having to answer
(01:47):
for what the Durham Report said they did, the Obama
Gaate Russia collusion hoax, conspiracy. You are referring former CIA
director John Brennan to the DOJ for prosecution over allegedly
lying to Congress in twenty seventeen to twenty two three.
Is this the beginning of real accountability?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Well, we'll see what I What I do know is
you're not supposed to lie, but you're definitely not supposed
to lie when you're under oath talking to the United
States Congress. And it looks like that's exactly what mister
Brennan did. He say, He told the committee I was
not involved with the dossier at all. He said that
he didn't want it referenced in the Intelligence community assessment.
(02:24):
But then when OD and I Director gabberd declassified the
House Intelligence Committee's report, it said something entirely different.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
It said John Brennan did want.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
The dossier referenced in the Intelligence Community assessment. In fact,
there's there's a story one of the CIA people confronted
mister Brennan and said, hey, there's no real evidence that
that that the intelligence used to develop this dossier was
any good.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
This looks like garbage.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
And John Brennan's response, according to another CIA official, was yeah,
but doesn't it ring true?
Speaker 7 (02:59):
He wanted to get President Trump.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
That's what we have in our letter because that's what
Tulsa Gabbert when she declassified this report, we were able
to get.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
So that's why we're referring it.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
We don't do this often, only when the evidence truly
supports it, and it looks like it does in this case,
and that's why we referred him to the Justice Department
really really quickly.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
You said it was classified.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Is it illegal in the United States to classify something
that should never have been classified to begin with, just
to hide it from the American people?
Speaker 7 (03:29):
Is that against the law?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
If that motive was there, certainly we don't know if
that was the motive, or why it was declass or
why it was initially classified, and then of course Tulsa
Gabbert then declassified it.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
We don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Here's the other thing I think supportant when you think
about mister Brennan, I think this is part of a
pattern we also included in our letter, in this referral
letter to the Justice Department back in twenty seventeen, when
it looks to me like he lied to Trey Goudi,
then a member of Congress, when Trey asked him questions
about the dossier. And then of course we were deposing
(04:01):
mister Brennan last Congress where we were looking at the
fifty one former Intel officials who signed that letter which
said the hunter about biden laptop was part of a
Russian information operation, which was all garbage.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
So there's this pattern of not.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Being square with the American people and not being square
with the Congress.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
And we think that's all important too.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
The context is all important when you look at mister
Brennan's action, how Congress misled the country. And I think
the irony is not lost on anyone. We were checking
him out about the fifty one former Intel officials and
that miss miss statement, I think stuff that wasn't true
given to the American people, and in fact, in that
deposition elied to us about the dossier from.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Cluarback in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, it has been confirmed that multiple grand juries
have been convened looking into the Obamagate Russia collusion hoax conspiracy.
How broad do you believe the Obamagate conspiracy is?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Well, this is what it all began back in twenty
fifteen twent sixteen.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Never forget the basics.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
They took the dossier that was put together by the
Clinton campaign when they hired the law firm Perkins Cooey,
who hired Fusion GPS, who hired the foreigner Christopher Steele,
who wrote the garbage document. They used that garbage document,
they put it in the ICA, as we found out today.
They also used it to go to the Secret Court
to get the warrant to spy on President Trump's campaign.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
And then they did all this.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
They used all that and changed all the intelligence community
assessment in December of twenty sixteen before President Trump is
sworn in as in his first term.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And then they go up to.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Trump Tower early January twenty seventeen and talked to President
Trump about the intelligence community assessment and specifically about the
dossier that they know is garbage.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
So they did.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
This is all began, and that's why I think it's
important that you hold these individuals accountable because it all
started back then almost a decade ago when they began
this attackle On and we know all the.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Things that happened afterward.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
There was a special console there, meant there was Alvin
brag Bonnie Willis, Jack Smith to assassinate all the stuff
that took place, all this stuff that went after President
Trump on. But it began back here with Brennan, Clapper
and Comy. And now again I think we have strong
evidence that John Brennan was not square with the United
States Congress when he was under oath.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, well you got Comy already indicted. Perhaps Brennan is
not far behind. And then d n I former d
and I Clapper could be next. Folks speaking about who's next.
A guy who was Press secretary during all of this,
Sean Spicer on the Salsado Storm podcast.
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Speaker 2 (10:17):
You know for a lot of things you probably don't
know about my next guest. He's a pop culture officionado,
among being you know plenty of plenty of other things.
But listen to this MTV folks. At the end of
(10:49):
the year, MTV is staple of my generation, a staple
of my next guest generation. It will go the way
of the dinosaur. Let me welcome in Sean Spicer. He's
the former Press Secretary President Trump. He's a captain in
the United States Navy Reserves, and he's the host of
the Sean Spicer Show on the First TV Network. My man,
(11:10):
welcome back.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Mighty good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
First off, the reason why I was so upset about
screwing up the last time you were going to come
on is because I wanted to be among the first
to say, oh, Captain, my captain. But that that has
gone by the way, So I congratulations and well deserved
on that. What's what's your commentary on MTV going away?
At the beginning of the year, I.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Didn't know it was still on. I mean, honestly, I
like you.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
You and I are.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Pretty close to the same age, like I grew up
when it was videos. I remember the literally the first
day it went on, you know, the first video ever played.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Video killed the Radio Star, right.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Video killed the Radio Star. That's right. How iconic is that?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But but yeah, so, I mean to be honest with you,
you know, they transitioned years ago into like shows and
they weren't playing videos, and I mean so honestly, I'm shocked.
When I heard what you were saying, I was like,
I didn't even know it was still there.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, well there you go. And you know, I remember
there used to be a battle of the bands and
actually ended up being a great band, which was def
Leppard going against a new, on up and coming band
called Quiet Riot. And they were going the Quiet Riot
had one hit song, come on Feel the Noise, right,
So it was that song versus whatever one of the
(12:30):
many hits Steph. Leopard was cranking out and they were
going back and forth and they were having this contest
to see who was the better rock band, you know,
the the and I remember that kind of stuff back
back when, you know, entertainment was kind of fun and
non political.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Well, look, I mean I actually I listened to serious
text on radio a lot when I'm in the car
or traveling around and there's an eighty station where they've
got the old DJs, Mark Goodman, Nina Blackwood.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
It was Alan Hunter.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I loved listening to them talk about like like the
history of what song was on or whatever. Anyway, I
I to me, that's what MTV was what I enjoyed,
Like I used to love we we never could afford cable.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
When I was going on to the people have Crossed
the Streets and was.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
The Nils and I would go over and just binge
with my buddy Kenny uh And and we would just
watch videos because that was the only way I had
access to it. And and so to me, that's what
I remember MTV being about, and watching videos and seeing
new songs and you know what the actual visualization of
that song was. So I mean, I again, it's a
it's a very uh it's it's it's a time gone by.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Help. I don't even do songs.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Even have videos now, like I I don't even.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Do they, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Like I remember when they when they would debut the video,
people would be like tomorrow, you know, to your point,
why a riot's new song comes out, we'll have the
video live, you know, exclusively or whatever. I don't know
that bands even shoot videos anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I haven't. I can't say I've ever seen one.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, it's about the music these days, back back, you know,
going retro, And you're right, I can't remember the last
time I watched a video of a song. I think
a lot of the country artists are still doing videos,
but it's just basically them in the band, you know,
and maybe maybe some dramatic flair. And of course, every
everybody remembers Thriller being the the vebe pinnacle of.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Vincent Price's intro to that song when he came on.
I mean, dude, I can't believe we're with everything else
going out in the world right now, Christy, you and
I are like, the audience is like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Well, I gotta be honest, you know, back in the
back when America was America, and again when politics wasn't
infecting everything, including our defense forces. And since you are
now a newly minted captain, I've got to ask you
about your impression of heg SA's reforms that that came
down the pike about two weeks ago. What do you
think about that?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, so just real quick, since you brought it up,
I have to use my standard disclaim that my views
are those of my own and not those of the
Department of the Navy's Departments of Defense. Look, I think
there's some reasonable that he's bringing up that most people
just don't understand. And so let me just give you
some contexts. I've done three tours in the Pentagon. If
you go if Christal Sato, where anybody shows up Washington,
(15:11):
DC and goes down to the Department of Education or
the Department of Health and Human Services and you say,
I'm Christal Sato, I'm in the media. I've got a
show and I want to.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Go to Like they'd be like, great, h you know,
you need an.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Appointment, and like that's just how it works.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
The Department of Defense actually has an entire press core
that works out of there, which is not normal for
a government building. Right, So the Department of HHS, the
Department of Health and Human Services, you name it doesn't
have these kind of things d D. The Pentagon does,
and when they press people go in, they get a
badge of pass if you will, kind of like the
(15:47):
White House, but unlike the White House, unlike the Department
of Health and Humans is unlike the Department of Education.
In do D you can just walk around right now,
the press will tell you, oh, we can't just go anywhere. Sure,
but even if you're a signed there, you can't go
down to like certain rooms, Like so I couldn't just
walk in and be like, hey, I want to go
down to what they call the chairman the tank where
(16:09):
the chairman is his secure room of the joint chiefs.
But but but the media can just walk in and
out of any office, right, So uh, that's that is
let lessons locked in the same way that a normal
person could. They basically a free run of the building.
And one of the things that sexutary head Steff has
put in place is to say no, no, no, no no.
Like you guys, there are certain areas that you can go.
(16:31):
There's you know, there's a food court you can go
to that. You can go to the food court, you
can walk around cera, but you're not allowed to anymore.
Just walk willy nilly throughout the entire Pentagon and and
and do it because that's this is.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Our workspace, right.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I think that people need to understand right now today,
well as of you know yesterday, the day before, they
could just walk around anywhere they wanted. And I think
hagg Sets was like, for operational security purposes, this is
not a smart move. And I get what he's doing
on that front. People I don't think who are out
who are reading the media version of the story, are
acting like somehow this is a massive crackdown. I think,
(17:04):
you know, common sense reforms so that the folks who
work in the Pentagon can focus on their job and
not being surprised by someone in the press who just
walks up on them.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Again, think about anyone's workplace. Imagine right now the media
having open access to your your your office building, your
your suite of offices. You'd be like, well, I gotta
be careful now because I don't want someone looking at
it like people right now can walk into an open space.
And I think Secretary Heag Tessin is obviously very concerned
about the operational security aspects for that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, and you know what, and I don't think I'm
reminded to have another eighties reference, a late late seventies
early eighties reference. I remember this episode of Battlestar Galactica
where they welcome to count Ibli on the on the
onto the Battlestar Galactica, and all of a sudden he's
given a tour of all of these highly sensitive military operations.
And the Commander Adama played by Lauren Green, says, what
(18:00):
are we running here? You know what, A guy comes,
a perfect stranger, comes on board the Galactica and we're
giving him a tour of some of the most sensitive
military operations we have. I think it's it strains credulity
that all that you know, that that our defense has
to be such an open book, in particular when you
have left wingers and Democrats out there so committed to
(18:21):
making sure our enemies have all of this all of
this information about us. And as a matter of fact,
there was just an arrest made of a guy that
was trying to give UH information to communist China about
about our fighting, our US fighter planes and their capabilities.
And Sean, thank you for clarifying all of that, because
that is something I was going to get into. But
I was talking about the reforms from a couple of
(18:43):
weeks ago where Haig Seth said, look, you're going to
be in shape, You're going to have. We're going to
have a slim fit and trim military, and we're throwing
political correctness out. We're the military is going back to
its primary mission. What did you think about all that?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Well, look, I people have to understand that one thing.
When the Secretary of Headset was talking about this.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He made an analogy speaking to the to the to
the admirals and the generals that were in that room,
and the senior enlisted officer officials as well, and he said,
you know, it's kind of like the broken windows approach
to crime that Rudy Giuliani used in New York back
in the nineties. And what he meant was this, if
you let the little things go, then the big things
(19:24):
are harder right to acknowledge. If you sort of say, okay,
well these crimes are okay, well, then which ones are
you going after? And I think one of the things
that in the military, it's a mindset, right. So if
you think about Admiral mccraven, who's the head of Special Forces,
he used to say, first thing you do, you get
up and you make your bed. Now you might say,
you can me this is how like the guy who's
leading our special forces and saying the first thing you
(19:45):
do is get up and make your bed. But Admaal
mccraven was right in the same way that Secretary Headsets
is right. If you're not caring about yourself, if you're
not caring about your appearents your physical being, your ability
to be in shape, and your mind is focused and
your body is ready to how are you ready to?
Like it's a mind body.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Approach to war fighting. Right.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
If you wake up in your slav every day, then
are you ready to take on the task of the
day that I think that that's the point at least
my takeaway from Admiral Craven's book and what I think
sex Cary head Sets driving at, which is you need
to be fit, you need to be ready, you need
to be focused. Right, war fighting is not just sitting
at a desk. It's about the approach that you take
(20:26):
and if you can't be in uniform standards And remember
for all of the hand ringing Chris because everyone says,
oh my god, one other things sex Cary eggsts analysis. Hey,
we're gonna bet tests twice a year. I've been in
for twenty seven in my twenty seven year now up
until COVID.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
That's the standard.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Right.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
That was the case.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
During COVID, everything got relaxed because we couldn't meet in person.
So it was like, Okay, well it's harder to meet
in person, so we'll do it. We'll go down to
once a year, right, those have gone away. During COVID,
we relaxed a lot of the standards on on beards
and all this stuff. In Secretary and set the same
Wait a second, at some point, you know, we need
to get back to the mentality of a war fighter
(21:08):
that wakes up every day and says, I'm going to
make sure that I do my best, but I'm focused
and I'm ready to take on the challenges. So in
any case, I think that it's you know, I joked
with him, he was the one, he's the presiding official.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
When I was promoted, I know.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And I said, mister Secretary, I've never prepared more for
anything in my life because knowing I was going to
have to stand in front of you in uniform. I've
been running twice a day. I shaved an hour ago, like.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I had to make sure I was one hundred percent ready.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
That's great, Sean Spicer, our guest right now, folks, former
Press secretary for President Donald J. Trump, and he is
a captain in the United States Navy Reserves, host of
the Sewn Spicer Show on the First TV Network. Speaking
of the President, you know, I I watched Bill Maher
and I watched Hillary Clinton and even Chuck Schumer giving
him credit for achieving and laying the foundation. And it's
(22:03):
more than just getting the hostages released. The buy in
from the actors inside of the Middle East Sean, the
ones who are now marginalizing Iran, marginalizing Hamas and the
terror networks, those in the Middle East, the stakeholders, the
Arab nations that want to live now in peace, tired
of this powder keg dynamic.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
There.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He got them all on board and they're all singing
from the same prayer book. And we're looking at the
Abraham Accords being advanced. But the left in this country
still refuses to give him any credit for what he
has accomplished, something that no other occupant of the Oval
Office has been able to pull off. What are your thoughts, Hi.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Totally, Look, I think the thing that people like miss
with Trump if they all want to focus on the process.
Oh my god, look at he's not using career diplomats
to solve the problem. Who is this Steve Whitcoff guy
or Jared Kushner You look at it instead of the results.
The guy just basically he got Arabs, the Israeli Hamas
(23:03):
all in the same room, and.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
The Europeans to praise.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Him, and everyone goes, yeah, but you know what, he
didn't have like five PowerPoint presentations and a room full
of deputies that made a presentation up to the principles
that was agreed off. Like, the guy gets it done.
And that's what I always focus on when you would
like I always say to folks to say, oh, but
the tween and he made fun of it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
It's like, is that what you care about?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Like the process, how we got here, not getting here,
not that the that the country is stafer, stronger, more prosperous,
the world is stafer. Like everyone's like, yeah, but he
said nice things about Putin.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Do you really give a crap.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Whether he said a nice thing about Putin or what
color the carpet was, or do you actually care about
the fact that he's trying to get He's in the
world to stop the killing of innocent civilians, the destruction
of property, all right, this is a guy who like, yes,
he may use unconventional means, he may not go by
the traditional norms that have you been used.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
By diplomats for centuries, but.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
At the end of the day, he's saving lives, making
the world safer and stronger.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
So I just get a kick.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Out of everybody on the left who is all about like, oh,
but he didn't stay the right word and he didn't
do this. It's like, is that what you really care about?
Because I think people who do that just have their
priorities backwards.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I would suggest that the way things have always been
done is what's led us to the failure that we're
in currently and and the failing West and and if
if it's failing, then why stick with it? And that's
that's the point.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Press. You just put your finger on this. Why is it?
Over and over again?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
We accept mediocrity at best, and we say, oh, but
it's always been done that way. Okay, so so willing
to always accept And I've got to run in a thing,
But I'll say that the same thing is true with NATO,
and the same thing's true with tariff. For so long
we have accepted the fact that it's Okay, to get
ripped off, I'll just use NATO as my final example.
(24:59):
And then and then I got to jump here. But listen,
here's the deal. For years, the deal in NATO was, hey,
we all agree that we'll put two percent of our
GDP into our national defense because if we are collectively stronger,
that's better. Right, Okay, so that makes sense. And for
years the deal was we all do that, and then
we'll all have each other's back. That's Article five with
(25:19):
the NATO construct. And then what happened was Europe basically said, hey,
why would we spend two percent on our national defense
when the Americans are spending a lot more and they'll
have our back. We'll spend that money on our roads,
our bridges, our infrastructure in our own countries. Social Resident
Trump finally said, wait a second, that's not a smart deal.
Like that's like going to lunch every day and somebody saying, hey, hey,
(25:40):
we'll all agree, we're all going to lunch today, and
every day somebody just say no, no, you know what, Salsado's
got the tab. And finally, at some point you go, wait,
this was never the deal was supposed to be a
lunch group. We're all supposed to pay our own way,
and now you guys are sticking me with the bill.
No one would ever accept that, and that's what we've
allowed to occur. And I think it's just And when
you stop and you think to yourself, one of the
(26:01):
things that President Trump said during the inauguration that's so
app is he goes, it's not necessarily a conservative or
Democrat or Republican or Democrat or conservative liberal.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
He goes, most of what I'm talking about is just
common sense.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
And I think that's what you go back to.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
It.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
The same thing with what he's done overseas and and
here domestically, which is I'm going to do things that
make sense to stop the insanity of agreeing to dumb things.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
And I love that approach.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well I do too, Sean Spicer, folks, former Press Secretary
for the aforementioned President Trump, Captain the United States Navy
Reserves of Reserves, host of the Sewn Spicer Show on
the First TV Network. If folks want to catch up
with you, where can they go? My man?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Best thing is either Shawn Speiser dot com or again,
I do all that aforementioned stuff on YouTube, Well I
do it on Rumble all those channels plots.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
I always love a good follow on YouTube. Just go
to Sean.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Spiser Roger thatman, Hey good get to work. Thanks for
time that right there. Put your wrap on this self
Sadostorm podcast till we visit again. My friends, Remember this,
A society's worth isn't measured by how much power are
stolen by government. A society's worth is measured by how
much powers reserved for you and me, We the people,
keep fighting for freedom out there, my friends,
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