S12, Ep. 37: The Show Behind The Show, The Double Bird Edition

On this Salcedo Storm Podcast: 

Chris and Sean talk shutdown and various impacts across Ameirca. Will Ameircans connect the dots about the dangers of all-powerful government? 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, are you happy?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Keep books?

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Neil Smith and old Buck Buddy? Are you hearing Neil? Neil?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I miss you man Junnies, I have a question. We
respect for me.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Down Missy were breaking a major story.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Chris, congratulations.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Listen to a single score podcast.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Okay, first in general housekeeping This week end of this week,
I'll be heading on on vacation. I think we're still
going to be able to have a full slate of
podcasts on my vacation week, maybe some of a mixture
of new content with some of our Salsato Show axioms
that we traditionally do on vacation weeks. For those of

(01:05):
you who are new to the podcast, the Salsado Storm podcast,
these axioms are They're six of them, and we traditionally
roll those out just as a reminder of what we're
about about some of our of our advocacy on the
Chris Salsado Show throughout the years that we have developed.
I wanted to get you guys some headlines as we're
coming into this week of November the tenth, starting on Monday,

(01:29):
which is when you're going to be hearing this podcast.
Are Americans better or worse off? Asks our friends over
at zero Hedge, and this was a really good article
that was put out by Tyler Dirden, and Tyler writes
about goes through all of the metrics that we measure
that well, typically Americans will measure on whether things are

(01:52):
improving in our lives. Now, a lot of people are
not feeling that because the Democrats are doing their best
to sabotage a Maria. They are showing folks that they
will that they will do anything. They'll shut down the government,
they'll increase the pain. They cut off food sources to
forty two million individuals, which is by the way, a

(02:13):
travesty in and of itself. Forty two million individuals, illegal
aliens and Americans alike. They prove that government can feed,
you know, forty two million people, but they also prove
the government can starve forty two million people. So the
idea that Democrats are trying to crank up the misery
index because they won't allow Trump's agenda to improve people's lives.

(02:38):
They won't allow President Trump to deploy the National Guard
to stop their crime. So the Democrats are doing everything
they can to crank up pain to try to blame Trump.
While President Trump is doing everything he can to try
to help all of you. So that's the game. I
know what it is. I know many Americans probably don't
think twice about how this all is going down, But

(03:01):
I think you folks ought to be paying attention. So
go to my ex and my true social pages and
check out this article. It's a good one from zero heads.
It goes through all the economics, illegal immigration, the whole
nine yards. By every metric, the United States of America
is far better off despite the Democrats' best efforts. There's

(03:23):
another story that didn't get a lot of attention. We
did it on an X space on the third rail
with my buddy at amuse. How many of you remember
the story of this ostrich farm in Canada, Oh Canada.
These birds they don't breed, the ostriches, folks for purposes

(03:43):
of their meat, perhaps their eggs, but not their meat.
It's a research farm and these birds contracted bird flu.
Now some of them died, the others who survived created
antibodies which were being studied there. These antibodies would be
passed on to the progeny of these birds and also

(04:09):
threw their eggs into the biosphere. So Canada naturally wanted
to slaughter them, I believe at the behest of big Pharma,
because what antibodies do. Antibodies are natural defenses against natural
flu viruses. And what did big Pharma do, in my opinion,

(04:30):
they pressured the Canadian government to slaughter these birds, to
take out those key antibodies out of the biosphere. Why
because because big pharma can't monetize those they can't make
money off of it. So they basically lined up these
ostriches execution style and slaughtered them. The people who were

(04:54):
caretakers up there in Canada were just distraught over this,
and this I believe was done to make us unhealthy.
Big pharma wants to market your health. You can be
healthy as long as you pay them first, That's my opinion.
So I'm hoping that more is exposed about this. RFK

(05:15):
Junior knew what was at stake here, and so folks,
just so you understand, those antibodies that those birds have
developed will not be introduced into the biosphere anymore. So
there will be next generation of birds will be susceptible
to this strain of the bird flew. It will not
be defeated, it will it will continue to ravage through

(05:39):
flocks through throughout the world. And this was done on purpose.
In my humble opinion speaking of big Pharma from the
Attorney General of the Great State of Texas, I just
beat Tailanol in court. Tailandol tried to avoid accountability by
getting my lawsuit against it removed to a different or

(06:01):
move to a different court. But a judge just rejected
Tailannall's desperate attempt and remanded the case back to a
Texas court.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
So that's what's happening right now, folks.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
As you all know, justice is coming for big Pharma,
says Attorney General Ken Paxton.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Thailand All.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
There's a big controversy that they had studies in twenty
seventeen that they knew that their product was increasing the
likelihood of childhood diseases afflictions in newborns. They were saying, oh, no,
tailand All's perfectly safe for pregnant women to take, and
they knew that it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's the charge.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
So what the makers of thailand All, Johnson and Johnson
did is they spun it off to a smaller company
and then monetize that company, you know, with maybe a
couple million dollars or something like that. So if a
lawsuit did come, that company could be wiped out. Thailand
all could be sued. But that's all we got. That's
all we got. What's in this little small company? Ken

(07:03):
Paxson said, No, this is a J and J product.
J ANDJ and the new company are going to be
held accountable. So that's what's happened here. Why would you
spin off tailanol to a smaller company if it was
perfectly safe, if it was absolutely there were no problems,
you didn't have published studies that could possibly incriminate you.

(07:25):
I think it's a fair question that Johnson and Johnson
should be forced to answer and will be as they
go to court, courtesy of the conservative Attorney General of Texas,
Ken Paxson. Last thing, folks, as we're talking about health,
this is from the President of the United States over
the weekend. I am recommending to Senate Republicans that hundreds
of billions of dollars currently being sent to money sucking

(07:47):
insurance companies.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Let me stop there.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
I call them the traitorous insurance companies because they sold
us out to Obamacare, the President continued, in order to
save the bad health care provided by Obamacare, be sent
directly to people so that they can purchase their own
much better health care and have money left over. In
other words, take from the big bad insurance companies, give
it to the people, and terminate per dollars spent the

(08:10):
worst healthcare anywhere in the world. Obamacare unrelated. We must end,
We must terminate the filibuster, says President Trump. Folks, this
is an acknowledgment by the President that all Obamacare has
done is enriched greedy, traitorous insurance companies. Trillions of dollars
funnel to insurance companies. We have crappier health insurance. Thirty
million were uninsured before Obamacare, thirty million were unasured after.

(08:33):
Obamacare did nothing to improve our policies. As a matter
of fact, our policies got crappier and crappier and crappier.
And we have been never been paying more out of
our pocket than under Obamacare. It's a failure. They're conditioning
us to be in socialized medicine. And here's an example.

(08:54):
I learned a staff the other day that floored me.
Before Obamacare, sixty five percent of doctors were in private prectice.
After Obamacare, only twenty percent of doctors are in private practice.
This is because Obamacare forces you can't make You can't
make money as a good old fashioned country doctor anymore.
Can't make it, so you got to either sell your

(09:14):
practice or join a massive conglomerate where the patients are
just numbers. It's it's sick and it's sad what the
Democrats have done to us. They screwed us three ways
from Sunday, folks, and they ought to pay a huge price.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
For doing it.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
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Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, folks A.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Lot last week we had to skip the podcast because
I was in London the lot under the weather actually,
and uh, Sean was like, don't be a woosy and uh,
I'm like great, Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Look, did you did you make poor Missus Salsato dress
up as a nodty nurse again to take care of you?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
No, dude, that was that was this year. I did
dress up for Halloween, but Batman again. No, I wish
it was Batman.

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Missus Salsado, I couldn't talk because of I was going
to the medical stuff, so I had no voice what
to speak of.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So she got me.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Do you know the uh animated film The Incredibles? Uh
huh sure, yeah, mister and missus Incredible. That's what we
went as. Oh cool, yeah, so we that was that
was our contribution. Of course, I just wandered around and
milled around smart and I couldn't hello talking to everybody, couldn't.
It was I didn't. I didn't feel very incredible, I'll
be honest with you. So yeah, that was our Halloween

(14:10):
and the reason why for you folks out there don't
know I'm late, but Sean knows I'm late.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Today.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
There's there's a phenomenon that I didn't start grappling with
until I got to Texas. And it's something that I,
I mean, after all these years, here we are, what
twenty twenty one years in Texas. Still I can't put
twenty one years in Texas. I still am having a
hard time every because our weather changes. Like folks, literally

(14:37):
in a matter of minutes, you can go from eighty
degrees outside eighty five degrees ninety degrees outside to below
fifty I've seen it happen. And when that does happen,
your car tires react. And for those of you who
don't know, Shawn's going to explain it to you because
he's the mechanic you know, expands in contracts with temperatures.

(15:02):
So this morning, I'm on my way to church and
all of a sudden, my tires are like, they're six
pounds below where they were the night before. So I'm like, God,
damn it. So I'm taking it gingerly on, you know,
not cornering or going too fast on my clearly underinflated tires.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, six pounds is not going to flip your suv,
so don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I wasn't driving the suv.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I was driving whatever you're driving. The chargers, it's not
gonna it's not gonna matter.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
And I'm not going to enamored with the charge that
the tires that came with the charger.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
They're kind of that thin profile.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
I really don't like them. I'm not sure why I
don't like them. I just don't because it didn't seem
to be enough rubber there. Anyway, long story short, the
reason why I was having it took so long is
I needed before I stowed the car. I wanted to
pump up the tires. So that put me about ten
minutes behind. Because the little compressor I've got takes about
three minutes per tire to get up. It's a digital

(15:59):
once a YEA said it and you forget it right.
So I was unloading groceries and all that kind of
stuff while each tire was inflating. So and that's why
I was late getting to you.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I see, I had you driven, you know, another few
miles on the highway or something, it probably would have
gone right back up to where they were supposed to
be mine. Does it all the time?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah? And the reason why.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Because it heats up and share expands and there you go.
And also not a paid promotion, but discount tire is
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Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, you know what, why why should that not be paid?
You know what? I think we ought to reach out.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I love Discount of Tire. They're all I use because
they're everywhere, and at least the one here in Weatherford,
Texas is fantastic, super clean, super friendly, super efficient and
never had an issue in the tire seem to be
in line with everywhere else as far as price goes.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I fully anticipate you will take this podcast. You will
march you're as right into Discount Tire and say, hey,
look man, talk to you guys up on the Salsado
Storm podcast. You guys want to be a sponsor, you know,
get you paid, get me paid.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
It'd be all good.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
You know that would be good.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Let's start to start doing some side hustling here, buddy,
these are tough times. Speaking of which tough times.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
How how are you are you? You don't fly, you
just drive typically right, So this is.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Well, yeah I drive. So this shutdown is affecting a
lot of stuff that I want to get into today. Okay, man, one,
it's it's affecting my family personally. My daughter in law
is air force officers, as I think everybody knows. And uh,

(17:55):
she and my daughter are waiting to move Omaha, Nebraska
for a very important job in the Air Force.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Can you tell me what it is?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I cannot.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
It's that it's that important.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's i'll yeah, I'll maybe hint to you off the
air but okay, that important, Okay. And they finally got
orders this week.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well she's getting paid though, your daughter's getting paid, right
because the military, because of Trump's efforts and because of
some private donors, our military personnel active duty is getting paid.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well, they got the one check, so I don't know
if yeah, if they'll get paid on the fifteenth, I
don't know who knows. Anyway, they were supposed to be
there two weeks ahead of the general that she is
the EXO for, and he got his orders of course,
got congressional approval and it is on his way up. Well,

(18:58):
they can't move in until the government reopens.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Right because you can't get moving expenses or anything paid.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Right, So they're just sitting in limbo in this really
important job that she's going to have to you know,
play ketchup to and it's well, family into a new
town and to do all that.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
It's national security is going to have to wait, and
your your family's needs are going to have to wait
because the Democrats need a political uh, a political bludgeon.
And that's that's exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
On that why they're holding this up. Now, correct me
if I'm wrong. But in the original bill, the Obamacare Bill,
the sunset clause was written into it.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yes, well for from most, for most of the but
but remember there this this pipe set for the subsidiaries,
the subsidizes, the subsidies, yes, the subjects. Yes, now don't
remember this was going to hit about three or four
years ago, but they were extended with more money, padding

(20:05):
it and hiding and obvious scating the real cost of
Obamacare because of the China virus. So during Beijing Biden's
massive spending bill, remember that, and that's that's the Democrats
got tons more money to basically pad and hide the
massive increases trillions of dollars, more billions and more dollars
trillions over the entire lifetime of Obamacare into the traitorous

(20:27):
insurance companies pockets. So now those are sunsetting too. So
it's the it's the China virus subsidies, and then Obamacare's
automatic sunset provisions, which is how they constructed it. They
were supposed to get you addicted. This is how it
was all supposed to work, buddy. They were supposed to
get you addicted. And once once the Democrats got you

(20:48):
addicted to of course, we've never been paying more and
it's been crappier insurance. Even with all of the money
we've been paying more out of our pockets, it's still crappy.
So that the whole idea, it's going to be if
you don't do single payer, if you don't let the
government take over, it's gonna just wipe you out. And
that it and that's what they're implementing right now, the

(21:08):
scare tactics.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
And so I mean, go ahead, no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
And the last thing is the problem is that the
Democrats that is shut down, and they showed the country
that yes, they can feed forty two million people, but
they also show that when the government shuts down, when
they choose to shut the government down, they can starve
forty two million people too.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
And that's a lot of people. Are well, not a
lot of people.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Some people who are thinking are saying, Wow, holy crap.
If they can starve me because they got control over
my food, what the hell are they going to do
when they get control of my healthcare?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
To and one more staff for you?

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Sixty before Obamacare, sixty five percent of doctors were in
private practice. You know what it's down to now?

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Wow, in ten years that there are My original question, though,
was so that was written into the original bill, the
sun setting?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yes, with the House, the Senate, and President all controlled
by Democrats. Yep, right, yep. So why is everybody pissed
off that these are sunsetting when it was the Democrats
who put it in the original bill.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Uh, nobody's pissed off at Democrats there. This is the
This is what the Democrats are trying to do. They're
trying to create the chaos they did in the first
Trump term. So anything that Trump tries to do to
improve our lives, the Democrats are going to try to sabotage.
He's going to send in the National Guard to stop crime.
Democrats don't want crime stop. Democrats want the misery up.

(22:39):
He was going to try to open the government. Democrats
don't want the government open. The Democrats want misery, and
they want everybody to blame the president because the Democrats
are are sufficiently confident. And this is true if you
look at the Media Research Center breakdown with how the
media is covering all of this. The media is covering
for the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
So that's nothing new. Just's that's the only question I had,
is like, well, who's the blameles? This was all Democrats? Yes,
twenty five years ago or twenty years ago.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Ten years ago is when Obamacare was crammed down our throats.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay, ten years ago, Yeah, Okay, that's that's all I
wanted to note there.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
But again, the broader point is the reason why everybody's
blaming well trying to blame Trump. A lot of people
aren't buying it, but enough are.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean Trump, Trump doesn't vote in the Senate, so
I don't know why why he's even in the equation.
It's just insane to me.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah, well, Democrats are raising money, dude. The Democrats are
raising money on it, and they just won the twenty
twenty five election. And those in those Democrat areas.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
You know, it's it's it's just high school one on
one about civics.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
But yeah, but but the average American doesn't know they're
asked from a hole in the ground.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
When it comes to how their government works, I guess,
I guess it's true.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
It's true they And look, if you want to just
blame this on on the Democrats, think about this. The
Republican Party couldn't beat a Marxist in New York That
the Republican Party couldn't beat a guy for the Attorney
General of Virginia who wanted to see his political opponents
and his political opponent's children dead.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
They couldn't beat that.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
So as everybody's out there saying, wow, the Democrats really
are extreme. Yeah, and the Republicans are are so weak
without Trump. When Trump's not on the ballot, they're so weak.
They can't they can't beat these Democrats. So that's that's
what's going on. We're being hit hard by a bunch

(24:39):
of leftist kook fringe nut jobs and an ineffective Republican
Party that has no idea or inclination to stand against them.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Only Trump and his coalition. That's it.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
You brought up food stamps, which I don't want to
see kids going hungry. I hate that. I hate that.
You know, I've seen video after a video now of
I got six baby daddies, and none of them are
worth anything, And where's my five thousand dollars a month
in food and aid and all that. There's not those kids'

(25:14):
fault that their moms are just whores. But it seems
to me my liberal kid posted something about food distribution,
and this made a lot more sense to me than
even though it's some lefty saying it. That we have

(25:37):
so much food. We have enough food to feed everybody.
It's just a matter of logistics. And with aws, Amazon Services,
you know, being the best logistics company in the world,
why can't they figure something out to distribute food where

(25:59):
we wouldn't even need food stamps. We would just use
the surplus food. And you know, in a area that
has a lot of surplus into these food deserts where
they don't have grocery stores because they keep getting robbed
and shut down. Right, So, I mean, it just seems

(26:21):
like the private sector could come up with something better
logistically to take care of food needs for everyone in
the country.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yes, what you just said, the private sector could get
this done, by the way, let's not just preduce it.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Why don't they? I mean, I mean, I guess that's
my call is why not. You know, Elon Musk can
get freaking free internet service in Uganda, But you know,
why can't he spend a little money to get food
to food to a South Saint Louis or something. You know,
I don't know. Why doesn't Jeff Bezos do this stuff

(26:59):
where he's a logistics expert and get food to people
who need it and that way they won't be dependent
on a government that can take it away from them.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, you basically just articulated everything that the conservative wants.
The government was never intended to do this crap the
government was. Reagan said, we cannot allow our desire to
have government help us blind us to its enormous power
to harm us. And this is precisely why the government

(27:34):
shouldn't be doing student loans, why the government shouldn't be
doing food distribution, why the government shouldn't be doing healthcare,
or the government there's a whole host of crap government
shouldn't be involved in that the private sector could get
done relatively quickly. And let's not forget that the farmers
have a right to make some money here, right, Oh.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. I'm not saying I'm not
saying they don't. I'm just saying between gross to restore restaurants, farmers,
there seems to be enough food that would you know,
probably end up in dumpsters or pig sties, that could
feed a whole lot of people. And it's just a
manner of logistics getting them getting it to them. And

(28:16):
I sure would like to see some rich person take
over that.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Well, you would have to wrest it from government's dead
cold hands, because.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
No, I mean it eventually it would just ye take
it away from the government.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
How do you do that?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Well, no, I mean, if the enough people are fed
that they don't need the food stamps, well, I mean,
I know that there's a certain segment of the population
that would you know, it's going to grab any free
thing they can, right, But if they are primarily concern
is feeding families, certainly logistically we could work that out

(28:55):
where they don't have to worry about it.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
How many people are on food stamps in this country
right now?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Why did I read forty two million.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Or someting like two million illegal aliens and American citizens?
And I'm hearing the data shows that it's a majority
of illegal aliens. It went up from the food stamp
program went from sixty billion to one hundred and forty
billion in the four years under Beijing Biden. And that's

(29:23):
that's all courtesy of rampant, uncontrolled illegal immigration. They're the
ones who started taking all these benefits. So my big issue,
and this is the problem I have, is nobody's talking
about how stupid and how sick and sad it is
that in the United States of America, we've got forty
two million people reliant on the government to eat. That

(29:44):
stat in of itself is a disgrace.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Why aren't those.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Why aren't those people at work, earning a living and
paying for their own damn food.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
My last argument would be, I've got six kids and
six baby daddies that aren't around, and so.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, because government, because governments replaced daddy. Governments replaced daddy
in these households. So everything can be traced back to
government's involvement where it doesn't belong. Everything, all the problems
we have in this country right now is in direct
proportion to government's involvement in it. Healthcare, food, wages, security,

(30:25):
the rule of law. Everything that is going on inside
the country right now is in direct proportion to government's
inappropriate use of government.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I just watched Yeah, John Stoscil TV. Do you watch
Stoscile TV on the socials?

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Every once and again I'll catch one of his reports.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I'm a fan. I'm a huge love John John Stosteg, Yes, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Anyway, he just had a report that was talking about
the one decision that the Supreme Court made that has
set this whole thing in motion. It was a nineteen
thirty seven decision. I don't know who there was, you know,
against the United States, but anyway, it basically said that
in the Constitution, what is it about welfare?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, promote the general welfare.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, promote the general welfare. Yes. Well, they determined that
that meant that government could spend money on just about anything,
on all these social programs exactly. And in the forties
and fifties it wasn't really implemented just because of the
you know, the boomtown times that we were living in
and the culture and the culture. Yeah. But then in

(31:37):
the late fifties, early sixties through the seventies, it just
started skyrocket and all these social programs and it's just
it really was interesting report from him, and the stats
are just unbelievable. I can't believe that so many people
are dependent.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, and I can because a government big enough to
give you everything you want is a government big enough
to take everything you have. And that's precisely what the
leftist goal has been. It's why they want to control
your healthcare. They want to control you. And let's stop
pretending that that isn't the goal of the Democrats. Can

(32:20):
we stop pretending, because I'll have words with anybody who says, oh,
the Democrats don't want to control your life. Bullshit, they don't.
I have not run into one Democrat. Zorhan Mandani, this
Marxist who was just elected to New York, said, there's
no I'm paraphrasing, there's no.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Problem too big or too small for government.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
That tells you everything you need to know right there
about their mindset. Government's going to be involved in every
freaking aspect of your life. You're not going to be
able to take a shit without having government weighing in
on it. And that's not America. Whatever that is, it's
not the United.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
States doesn't seem like it to me.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Pale doesn't seem like it to me either.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
And you know what, people, No, I was gonna say,
just look at the damage being wrought and everything Trump
is doing right is trying to get us back to
what we used to be. And he's being thought tooth
and nail. Why because they don't want to go back.
They almost have us. They're this close, and you know
that they they learned from Reagan. Reagan set them back

(33:25):
about thirty years and they are bound and damned determined
not to let Trump do the same.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
A couple of pop culture things. Yeah, have you seen
House of Dynamite on Netflix?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I am not.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
This is the latest from the woman who did hurt Locker, Okay,
and it is well worth the watch. It's about a
new fired in the Atlantic. Don't know where really because

(34:02):
of you know, some radars being down and stuff like that.
They can't pinpoint exactly where I was from. Nobody is
claiming it, the Russians, the North Koreans, blah blah blah.
Nobody's claiming it. But it's headed to Chicago. Oh and
are uh. It's a great scene where we have, you know,

(34:24):
the ability to shoot these nukes down. Well, we come
to find out in the film, and I'm sure this
is pretty accurate that that's basically a coin flip. Whether
we can do that or not. It's a bullet hitting
a bullet, yes, and it doesn't always work, and in
the film it does not work and it shows it.

(34:48):
It's the whole film is shot from about four different angles,
people involved, including the president, and he's a brand new
president and what the hell does he do? You know
when he's.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
So it's it's it's all centered around a nuke being
fired off.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
It is fire. We have nineteen minutes nineteen so for
these thing hits.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
So the entire film is shot within a nineteen minute span,
different different aspects.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Different aspects, people different involved in the government, from the
Secretary of Defense to the president to the people you
know in the bunkers, the people who first see this
stuff with all that you know, mega TVs every everywhere,
the Global Strike Force, the Nuclear Triad, all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Right, Well, you know that the Patriot missile battery is
basically that technology that was that was derived from Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, and oh yeah, I know, and it's.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
It's got about it. I think it's got a nine.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
It's got a ninety percent kill rate.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
It it was really well done and really pretty frightening.
So I don't know, well worth the watch. I think okay. Secondly,
I was just reading tomorrow Mark's The Wreck of the
Edmund Fitzgerald.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Didn't they make a song about that?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Oh? Yeah, huge song? Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Gordon Lightfoot exactly Gordon Lightfoot.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
And I don't know if you've ever read the like
the wiki article on that, I'm not. I don't know
that the ship had touched the bottom of the Flake
Superior by the time that song came out, because he
got on it pretty quick and wrote the song about
the twenty nine twenty nine men that died that day.

(36:51):
And anyway, I just thought that was interesting because the
song is still being played today. It's huge, and we'll
probably chart this week just because of of the anniversary
of that, because I think of those kind of every year.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
So ye, well, I got something culturally for you, Sidney Sweeney.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, who came up with that?

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Just awesome, so expertly well done, magnificent, just spectacular jeans ad.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I don't think she came up with it. I think
her and her boobs were.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Well in it.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Well wait, it wasn't her boobs that you know. The
jeens were not featuring her boobs. They were featuring her
other assets, her very fine assets.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
She was sitting down with a left wing.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Reporter who was trying to shame her into doing this
about it's a long drawn out question, trying to get
her to apologize for doing a an ad, a white
girl doing an ad about geneans and good jeans and
how people can misinterpret it. And so she was going
after and after, and Sidney Sweeney was just like, I

(38:08):
don't think No, I don't think it's a problem at all.
It's like, She's like, I don't think it's a problems.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
It's an ad about jeans. What the hell's the matter
with you?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
What I'm missed during that whole conversation when it first
came out, yes, was that it's it's very similar to
Cindy Crawford ad from the eighties. Yeah, I don't, I
just I don't remember that. But it's almost a word
for words. Yeah, the left, nobody had a problem with it.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Then, exactly, the left wasn't full of a bunch of
batshit crazy leftists who are trying to police speech out
there right at that time. So Sidney Crawford got away
with it. But it's like, what I admired about Sweeney
is that every single time this so called journalist would
try to get her to to Budge and say, you know,
can you see how this would be a problem, and

(38:54):
don't you think, you know, trying to get an apology
out of her Sidney Sweeney was and taking the bait
Number one, number two, She has nothing to apologize for now.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
And the other aspect is that, you know, she's seemingly
supported conservative causes, maybe even going as far as, you know,
being a MAGA member, which they can't stand.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Which I don't know, I don't know that's true, But
doesn't matter. If she, I mean, looked good for me,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
It's just like she did. It's a change commercial.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
And just what I'm tired of doing is is trying
to turn my life upside upside down because some left
wing coop freak er nut is is but hurt over something.
You know, I'm sick and tired of that, and I
don't I don't think we ought to be doing that anymore,
you know.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
And I mean, she's she's successful in Hollywood and has
a new film coming out. I think that's what she
was promoting when she was asked this question, a film
called Christy. I have no idea what it's about But yeah,
good for her. And you know, hopefully you see enough
of these people that have to live undercover in Hollywood

(40:08):
because they're conservatives or at least not as far left
leaning as most of Hollywood is. You know, maybe a
few of those with some courage come out, and maybe
more and more start to come out. And the whole
wokeness thing is, I think it's starting to die anyway,
but I think it'll die faster they the more people

(40:29):
are willing to come out.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Not just fast enough in my estimation.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Well, hey, buddy, I got a couple of other things
if you don't mind real quick.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Oh sure, go go, go, go.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
One. I never heard about jury duty. This is the
legal segment of the show. Oh yeah, I've got something.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Well I did well. I thought I thought I had
covered it, but maybe I didn't.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
You were going to you were going to go to
jury duty?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Last I heard I did, and I you know what
I probably talked about on the radio and just forgot
to up the podcast. What happened, folks, is I showed
up for jury duty and we filled out the question
questionnaire and a lot of people, you know, everybody was
bitching and MOONI, because it's like, we're still doing the
same check in systems that we've been doing apparently since
the nineteen fifties. You know, a deputy goes in, uh

(41:17):
checks everybody in, all this kind of stuff, and it's like, man,
couldn't we get some of this digital stuff to work
for us and like streamline this process. That being said,
we got in and the judge waves us in and
then all the counselors are there, and the judge are
really nice guy.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
He restored my faith in the judiciary.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
And he explains, okay, guys, uh, we got we had
a plea deal that this was going to be a
child molestation case. Wow, And and the defense has taken
the plea deal and so your your service will be required.
It was it was going to be a very tough case.
It was this this gentleman and he's to name the guy,

(41:59):
uh not general, and this guy had done had committed
a molestia. The child happened to be his own child since.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
She was the age of six.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
So the whole courtroom gasps at at that revelation. And
then he says, I just want you all to know
that your your time was not wasted. It was your
presence here that got the defense to convince their client
to take the plea deal, and you know, and justice
will be served. So you did everything that you were

(42:28):
supposed to do and we.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Can't thank you enough. YadA, YadA YadA. So yeah, that's
that's how it all played out.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I too had a courtroom experience. Yes, so a year
and a half ago, kid hits my truck in front
of my house.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, we've been detailing.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah when we detailed this, Yeah, got a trial date set,
It got moved because they weren't ready, right, the other
party wasn't ready. That got another date set for a Monday.
I call on Friday to make sure I've got the

(43:06):
time right because I was out of town, and the
woman tells me, the clerk tells me, oh yeah, that
didn't get put on the docket. I'm like, well, I've
already taken the day off. What am I supposed to do?
You know? That just sucks?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
So going to tell me on the plaintiff hello.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been really nice to know.
And so I say, well, when will it be put
back on the docket? And she said, oh, bro, it'll
probably be a couple of weeks like Okay, I'm waiting
and waiting and waiting, and then finally I just got
bored one afternoon, said let me call him and see
what the deal is. And they said, yeah, still not
on the docket. We'll let you know about I don't know.

(43:46):
A week later, I finally get a letter saying, okay,
your your data set and so way. It was two
thirty in the afternoon, so I didn't really have to
take off work too lately. Get there. I'm dressed appropriately
and waiting, waiting, waiting. The case was supposed to be

(44:07):
at two thirty. About two forty, the deputy finally comes
and gets me and we walk into the courtroom and
here's this lovely thirty three four year old woman who
is representing the uh, the kid that hit my truck.
It's his wife. She has power of attorney. And the

(44:27):
judge explains to me that that in a civil case
like this, this is that's legal that you can have
a representative for you if you're unable to be there,
which is fine, and so I the judge asked me
my story and I tell him and I said, you know,
I'm He said, how you settle into ten thousand I said, well,

(44:50):
it's the most I could ask for in the state
of Texas. And I wanted to teach a lesson because
I gave this turk, you know, ample opportunity to make good,
to make it right, to make it right, just to
man up. And I said in court, you know it's
a man up and do the right thing. I said,
it just blows my mind that people can destroy other

(45:12):
people's property and not even account for it. And he said, well,
I'm not going to get into all that. And I
see it every day and he said, other people's lives
are you know, pretty involved, so we don't need to
go there. I'm like, okay, what And he asked me
about the truck and I said, well, it's specific. My

(45:35):
truck is specific. And the reason I ask for so
much is because if you go off of blue book,
they're probably going to give me about six hundred bucks
for it. But it was a single cab, short bed
fleet side two thousand and two or two thousand and
one Chevy Silverado, which and I explained to the judge

(45:57):
and he was willing to listen that in the in
the hot rotting world, in the custom truck world, very
desirable pick up and blue book or black book, whatever
you want to go off of is not representative of
what the marketplace is because again, desirable trucks, and so

(46:19):
I explained that to him and he kindly listened. He
was not a hot rodder or a custom trucker. So
he said, in the course of my duties, I am
allowed to look up some stuff. And I had submitted,
along with pictures of my wreck truck, some comps of
the truck, and he said, you know, obviously these are old.

(46:41):
He said, they're probably worth more now than when they
were when you submitted. Him. He said, I'm going to
do a little research on marketplace and eBay and all that,
and I said, yeah, please do. And he then asked
the woman and what was going on, you know, and

(47:02):
she said, well, I don't know anything about it. I
wasn't there. My our truck got totaled too. And she said,
I don't think it was worth ten thousand dollars, which
it was not. I'll flat out and say that right now.
And she said at one point he offered a settlement

(47:24):
of three thousand dollars, that's a low. Well, no I did.
I said, I'll let you buy the truck. For three
grand right now, and there's usable parts on it. I
told him that I just wanted to, you know, something
out of it so I wouldn't have to go this
lawsuit route. And so she told the judge that I said, yes, sir,
I did offer that at the time he stood me

(47:47):
up at a meeting, multiple texts and calls, and then
all of a sudden just got ghosted and hadn't heard
from him, didn't hear from him, And so I just
went this route. And again, just because of the pain
and the ass factor, I you know, went for the MACS.
I could go for there you go. And so she

(48:11):
says all that and he issues a judgment of eight
thousand people. Yeah, So after that, I asked the judge,
I said, would it be appropriate to ask why he
isn't here? Why he has to be representative by his

(48:32):
wife represented by his wife? And he said, let's just
say he is unable to be here and not because
of his own you know, he and and not willingly.
I forget how you were today. He was not able,

(48:52):
he was in jail. Well I didn't put that together.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
First, yeah, I said, well, is he a deploy service member?
Because if he was I was willing to drop the
thing for the one hundred and fifty four bucks it
cost me just to file the case. You know, I
don't care. I'm not going to take eight grand out
of some or you know, military wife's family money while

(49:15):
her husband's serving the country. Right. No, No, he's not.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
He's in jail. He's in jail.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
And so, you know, thanks to public records and all that,
I could look up and he had a rap sheet
of I think eight offenses, no of you know, everything
from marijuana possession to family member violence, to failure to

(49:44):
ID and then evading and then finally.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Dude, you're cutting into some of that marijuana money. You
know that.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
And then finally it looks like meth between two and
forty bounces. Oh my, with intent to distribute, manufacture and
distribute of course. So yeah, he And so I'm looking up,
you know, his arrest record here in Parker County and

(50:14):
get all that information, and then it says he was
released on March twenty fifth of this year. Cool, he's out.
Why wasn't he in court? Well, so then I go
to the Texas Department of Corrections and look him up,
and yeah, he's there until twenty thirty six on this

(50:36):
meth charge. Oh, with the potential to be there till
twenty forty seven. His earliest opportunity for parole is twenty
twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Pillar of the community, my man.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
And so you know, I got eight grand in theory,
but I'll never see a dime of it.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
I was gonna say, well, what what is the So
what is the next thing, you guys?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Next thing, I guess is I've got a way thirty
days after the after the verdict there, and we both
have a chance to appeal. I'm not going to obviously,
she has a chance to appeal, and and if she does,
we'll go, you know, go from there. Uh. If not,
I can file.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
The wages.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah, so I mean, since he doesn't really have wages
coming in, but she has the power of returnity. I
guess I can text her wages or you know, get
if she's got a home or cars or whatever.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Yeah, I've forced them to basically make good on that.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
And and I felt I felt horrible, I really did.
But then you know, I was talking to my lawyer
friend and he said, why exactly why she wouldn't feel
horrible for you? Nope, I'm like, but she's got you know,
she's my kid's age, she's got little kids and just
d and it's just so I immediately called my daughter
and I said, I'm so proud of you from making

(52:01):
good choices because here, this girl has been dealing with
this shit for you know, ten years now, and that
this this guy's just one of those people that's going
to be in jail for the rest of us life.
You may get out and then but he'll do something
stupid and go right back in. Right, How does a

(52:22):
woman stay with that? I mean, after the first you know,
after the first marijuana bust and evading cop arrest, maybe
you say, well, you know, he was stupid, he panicked, I'll,
you know, we'll we'll work through it and it'll all
be okay, right, But then the second time, and the
third time, and the fourth time and the fifth time.

(52:45):
Why why would a woman put up with that? Why
would a woman stay even though she has kids? I understand,
but why would you subject your children to that?

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Poor choices build on more poor choices, on more poor choices.
And can you imagine being in that situation where you
you that that's your life. It's like this or or
you can't conceive of having a normal life absent that
that crap.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
And I'm so naive to the ways of the world
been I don't well do. I can't even imagine.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
It's not like you're in a you're not in a
you're not in a relationship, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Right, Well, thanks for pointing out.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
But you know, there's a whole there's you know, some
people don't know what normal is.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, some people.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
It's just sad.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
It is sad that that that this is.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
There's a whole segment of our population that has been
brought up in something that you and I would find
completely alien, and it's it's there, it's their normal, to
which you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
My dad, who we've talked about many times. Yeah, was
a cop for almost thirty years, so he saw this
day in and day out, and I'm so blessed that
he kept it from us. I mean, you know, obviously
you hear stuff, you you know things you you know,
but to see that every day, I can't imagine the

(54:19):
stress that that puts on you, and just the sadness
in your broken heart when you're seeing these babies, you
know what, they're messed out. Dad hauled off to jail
and mom, you know, having to go to court to
pay some fat doe eight grand for a truck that
wasn't worth it. Yeah, you know, it just geez And

(54:41):
it looks sad.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
And look at this.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
If this guy was a decent human being, he could
have he could he could have done it for three thousand.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
He could have. And now because I would have had.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Him pay it out, I know. I mean, I to
tell the truth, I paid seventeen hundred dollars for the
truck i'd over for about one hundred and fifty thousand miles.
I had just putting put a, had just putting had
just I bet he's got better grammar than yeah, go bed,

(55:14):
I'll bed. But I had just put a thousand dollars
worth of worth of tune up and fuel punt money
into it, yeah you know. And and I sold it
when it got after a hit. I sold it for
eight hundred bucks to a Mexican dude that was walking
down the street. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Think about this though.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
So if if he had just done the right thing,
like you said where you started the conversation, if you
had done the right thing and just said, look, uh,
it's my fault, I completely screw this up. I'm gonna
he could have paid off a truck. You probably would
have given him a deal because he was a stand
up guy. Just just pay it off and it's yours,
you can take it, and everybody would have been happy. Instead,

(55:58):
this guy went from seven teen hundred to three thousand
dollars worth of a bill to an eight thousand dollars bill.
So more bad choices, bad integrity, A bad guy yields more,
yields more bad things coming into his life. So he
just continues to make poor choices. And it's like, and

(56:19):
that's the thing I think is sorely missing from if
everything you and I have talked about today is consequences, it's.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
It's yeah, yeah, I mean I didn't experience any of
that growing up. Everybody in my in my circle was
you know, pretty straight up people. Even the dudes that
were you knew were bad are going to end up
in jail. Pretty good guys and you know, just rambunctious teenagers.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Well, there are some guys who are bad guys, you
know by nature. But I think that if this kid
had somebody in his life that told him, you know, man,
your your mouth and your actions are writing checks, you're
asking a cash, you know, and somebody had cared enough
about this guy to sit him down and set him straight,

(57:06):
like you and I had, you know, then then maybe
his life would be different. But you know, it's and
that's guys like you and me who got into media,
who have you know, kind of a superhero complex, kind
of a thing like that. It's it's it's we want
to help our fellow man. But it's like, at the
same time, there's got to be somebody that people gotta
want to be helped. And I don't think that this

(57:26):
guy was. He didn't have anybody in his life. And
look at what look at what's.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Happened, and I mean jailed to me, would is the
scariest thought I can imagine going to jail after the
first time. How do you not just say, WHOA, that sucked?
I'm cleaning up my act, right or you know, even

(57:51):
if you're dumb and you still got a little weed,
you got a pedal and you get busted a second time,
wouldn't you didn't say WHOA? I have used up all
my chances. I am cleaning my shit up and going
to find a job of chicken express.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
You know, well, how many times have we heard, Uh,
maybe it happened to your dad.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
I don't know where.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Cops, you know, busted a kid and the kid said,
thank god that this cop busted me, because he probably
saved my life.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Because my dad tells this great story. I told this
great story when he was alive. He was chasing this
kid on a mini bike. Kid was maybe seven, and
he's just cha.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Of Sean's dead, chasing.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
In the patrol car. The kid's speeding away on his
five horse power mini bike that you know back in
the seventies, and he goes across like a little footbridge. Yeah,
stops at the end of that, knowing my dad can't
get across in his car, turns around, gives my dad
the double bird that you know, seven years old, and

(59:01):
drives off into the sunset.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
That's a great I just got I just got a
picture of that as if we were in a movie.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Yeah, you know exactly, you could. Yeah, you can easily
picture that. Go you know, twelve fifteen years later, and
that kid is my dad's his field training officer.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Serious, Now, how did he know that? Because if the
kid got away.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Oh the kid, he knew the Oh he knew who
the kid was. Yeah, oh, okay, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
It was probably my dad probably wasn't gonna put a
lot of effort into busting him, you know, and then kept.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
His eye on him. Kid grew up, you know, since
your dad knew him.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
I mean, the kid probably didn't get away with anything
because your dad knew who he was, probably knew his parents,
and so you know, the kid probably got into a shitload.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Of trouble after after doing that.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
And you know what, See, that's and that's that was
the America that you and I grew up in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
You know, yeah, you know, in the community policing that
I think most departments have gotten away from. He worked
nights as when he wasn't undercover. He worked nights his
whole career, and man, he knew everybody was out after dark, everybody,
and he knew the neighborhoods and he knew the people
that lived in the neighborhoods. And I think so many

(01:00:24):
apartments have gotten away from that just because they're spread
so thin. And it's really a shame that you get
to double bird from a you know, seven year old
on a mini bike. You're not going to have time
to keep up with him and make sure he kind
of watched the string that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Is that is that just made me loud. That's a
great way to end the podcast. I think that's what
we're going to name the podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
We'll call the Double Bird Pod, the show behind the show,
the Double Bird Edition. That's what we're gonna call it,
all right, But it's so programming. Note next week I'm
gonna be on vacation, so nice. We will have no
show behind the show next week, and then we'll be
back on it the week.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Of Thanksgiving, folks.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
I think we'll be back back at it, so man,
I will, I will, I know, I will talk to
you before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
But all right, have a great one, okay, I will.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Thanks That puts a rap on the Salcedo Storm Podcast two.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
We visit again, my friends.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Remember this, A society's worth is not measured by how
much power is stolen by an out of control government.
A society's worth is measured by how much power is
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(01:01:40):
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(01:02:01):
my friends,