KCAA: The Scene with Doreen (Tue, 20 May, 2025)

KCAA: The Scene with Doreen on Tue, 20 May, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nineteen thirty two dot Org.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
What Hey, Hey, what's going on? Welcome to the Scene
with Doreen. I'm your host, Doreen Taylor, setting this scene
every week to help you find out what's happening in music, TV, movie, sports,
the arts and everything in between. We're proud to be

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syndicated on station's Coast to coast and originating right here
in the City of Brotherly Love on Philadelphia's number one
talk radio station, Talk eight sixty WWDB. Today on the show,
we have some amazing guests. We're going to be welcoming
one of the most transformative bands, the Dillards. We have
Rodney Dillard and his beautiful wife, Beverly Dillard in studio.

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And we also are going to be welcoming Catridgeway, singer songwriter.
It's a big sing singer songwriter phenomenon today. And before
we get to that, I'm going to also welcome I
haven't seen him in a few weeks. Wonderful producer and
co pilot Matt Monark. Doreen refresh, I'm not refreshed at all. No,
it's just all smoking mirror.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
What'd you do?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I just took some time off. I know every and
all our listening audience is probably like boo who. They're like, oh,
you were gone. No, but I was gone. I took
a few weeks off. I haven't had a vacation since
we started almost one hundred episodes ago, and I needed
a little bit of a vacation.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, that is true, just just from your mind, I guess,
because I know the the intensive detail that you put
into the research of these shows. Just just giving your
brain a break, I guess, is any type of vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
I mean, it's just as good as anything.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's true. And we have so many things like lining up,
things are happening. Like I said, the one hundredth episode
is coming. We've got incredible guests, bigger, bigger names than
you know coming up. And I'm adding a new segment
onto the Daily Flash. So every week on Mondays now
they're going to see this new segment, the Spotlight Artist segment,
which I haven't you know, we've been doing it on
the radio for a while, but now it's gonna be
on TV. And a lot of these up and coming

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awesome emerging to they're going to be featured on television,
Nation National, syndicated television. So that's really a nice, cool thing.
A lot more work for me, but definitely cool thing.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Hey, you're evolving, that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I am. I hate sitting still. I mean that's probably
why my brain needed a break, because you know, eventually
I outrun my brain, so I needed it to catch.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
But yeah, I feel refreshed. I feel good. I feel
ready to tackle these incredible guests that are coming up.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, I mean, congrats on getting this far.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, thank you for being part of this all along.
I mean it's pretty pretty dark.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, I guess I got lucky that. You know, they
they chose me when they said, hey, Dorian's doing the show,
and uh, you're going to be your producer. I'm I
guess I'm the lucky one.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
You got the short end of the stick.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I got the short end of the stick.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Nobody else wanted to do it. They're like, Matt, Matt,
you're just here. Yeah, you do it, you do it.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
No, it's it's been a lot of fun. I mean,
I feel pretty lucky that I got to. You know,
I will continue to do so. It's not like this
is just ending.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I know, we're not ending. We're not retiring people. We're
not leaving. We're just growing and better.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Now.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, I just want to congratulate you, I mean on
getting this far. It's quite an accomplishment just doing ten shows,
let alone close to one hundred, and just the work
they have to do to line up the guests and
research and all that stuff. And it's been continuous for
I don't need what is two and a half years?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
How long is we have?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Two year anniversary? May eleventh was our two year annivers Okay,
so two years pretty like right now we're just celebrating
two years. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
And it goes by fast, it does.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
But you know, congratulations for me, but to you as well.
I mean you've been part of it since the conception.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, it's been a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
I mean I got the luck you want to be
chosen to produce it. I didn't, I mean the strenuous,
the audition that yes, I don't understand the obstacle. Course
I had nothing to do with this, But I don't
know why you didn't. Maybe I was like, well, what's

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this have to do with running aboard and producing the show?
And you're like, it's part of it.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You got to learn how to deal with me. You know,
that's it, dealing with me and my personality. You got
to go through like you know, war.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I thought you were just wanted to laugh at the
other fifty people that were out there doing it.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
But you won.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
But I won.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You want everybody else left, and you're not tripped over
the curb.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
And that was the last one. So they're like, hey,
you're the one.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
They all ran you. That's the lowest one in the herd.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Somebody tied my shoelaces together.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh no, but we have a lot more coming up.
It's just the beginning and I can't wait to see
what's coming up. And you're now going into year three.
This is pretty cool. And I don't think we're slowing
down at all. That's why I needed this break. I
just needed a little bit of you know, a few
weeks and we're back and yeah, I think this is
going to be pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Oh this is gonna be cool.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (04:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
If you give me a hint at some of the
upcoming guests, I'm not gonna say anything because people got
to listen and yes every week and in every week,
but yeah, you've got some big ones coming up.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yes, so stick with us. We are family, were growing
and people don't realize we we are really the only
ones doing things. We don't have a team of one
hundred people sitting here and researching and booking and doing
all these things. It's us and we're here and we're
doing this each and every week, giving you the best
possible of us that we can give. And I just
love it and I can't wait to see where it goes.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, it's exciting, all right.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, speaking of where it goes, let's get to it, Ahi,
let's go. My first guest on the scene with Doreen
Today paved the way as the founding member and lead
singer of one of the most transformative musical groups of
the sixties and seventies. Musician, writer, and actor Rodney Dillard
and the Dillards brought two musical genres to mainstream America,
bluegrass and country rock. Music legends like Don Henley and

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Elton John have named them as one of the most
influential bands on their own careers, and for more than
six decades, viewers have enjoyed the performances of the Dillards
as the beloved musically gifted Darling family on The Andy
Griffiths Show. They are the most viewed bluegrass group in
world history, and to this day most people first experienced

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bluegrass us music by watching the Darlings. Take a listen, Hey,
how about playing.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
Never hit your Grandma with a great.

Speaker 9 (06:06):
Big stake that makes me cry?

Speaker 8 (06:10):
How about Dooley?

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Oh that good and wi we.

Speaker 10 (06:14):
Go Now, Dooley was a good old man. He lived
belong the mail. Douey had ten daughters and a party
dollars till one guy watched the boiler and the other
watches Mats and my my car.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Comdelis went on.

Speaker 10 (06:37):
Doue metched them out.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Doe Doe, trying to make a dollar league, a man
swallering a paybacks d Yes. Rodney Dillard is the last
standing member of the Dillards and has been the voice
of the band since its inception over sixty five years ago,
and Rodney is one of the only currently active artists
to be featured in three major Halls of Fame at

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the same time. He is back with a new album,
Songs That Made Charlene Cry, where the Dillards pay a
tribute to Mayberry, their on screen Andy Griffith's show family,
and especially their sister Charlene, played by the late Maggie Peterson. So,
without further ado, let's get to it and welcome founding
member and lead vocalist of the Dillards and his beautiful

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wife Rodney Dillard and Beverly Dillard to the show. Hi guys,
what's going on?

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Well, with all those words you said of me, I'm
spaceless where we go from here? Listening back to that
Duley I said, like Shirley Temple, what I was like? Four?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Oh, no, you're doing the good Ship lollipop? No, you
were doing it? Was that was your guy's biggest song,
wasn't it. I think that that was the one that
made the most impact.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Well, that actually that and there is a time. There
is a time that we wrote for that show has
been recorded by several people, including Alan Jackson. He's a
big country music guy. Yeah, and he recorded a lot
of other people have rec but it's hard to say.
I actually have never kept up with any of that.
And I just learned a lot about myself from you.

Speaker 11 (08:07):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, hopefully I do you justice today. I really hope.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
So you did me more than justice.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well we just started, you don't I can't peak too soon.
We have a whole interview to go here. Well, I
have to say it is a great treat for me
to have you on the show, Ronnie. I interviewed John
mchun a little over a year ago, and he just
sung your praises about how the Dillards would be in
clubs all over southern California and he'd sneak in underage
and watch you guys Steve Martin as well. So you

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guys have been I mean, we're gonna get to some
of the people that you've inspired. But one of my
former guests right off the bad John, I mean, how
can you top that? That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Well, he was a dear friend. He has been for years,
and we occasionally do things together, but he is a friend,
and I've always admired how he took what he does
and never copied anybody else. He just blazed his own
trail on the entertainment circuit and then the music too,
And that's what I admire.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
People who do that, Well, then admire yourself because you
you are revolutionary to the world of bluegrass. The Dillards
were among the first bluegrass groups to electrify their instruments.
You were one of the first to add orchestral instruments
that were not part of a traditional bluegrass band. I mean,
you have the list of firsts go on and on
and on for the Dillards.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Sometimes. I had a great friend who was a writer,
wrote for the Mothers and different ones. He said, to
be ahead of your time is to be wrong.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
And then they appreciate you later. That's also part of it.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
It's like the tortoise in the hair, you know. Here
I am going along, going on, and everybody geting these
hit records, you know, and I know going beyond me,
but a lot of them are gone and are out
of it now, and here I am still plodding along
toward the finish line. Yeah, it's been, it's been. It's
been a very very interesting career of how we got started.
The Dillards were sort of a skitch a phrenic group

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in a way because we were known for the Andy
Griffiths Show, which yes, which I'm very thankful for, But
we were also known as a group, you know, an
innovative group doing other things. So the combination of the
two has kept me going for a long time and
keeping my para keating seeds.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Did it confuse your fan base like when they would
come out to see your shows. They were associe. You
had two different names. You were the Darlings on TV,
and at night, while you were playing clubs and doing
your music journey, you were the Dillards. I mean, did
it ever kind of create a problem? People couldn't maybe
conflate the two.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Well, not as bad as Doctor Jekyll and mister Hyde,
but it did create It created the situation with the
traditionalists back then, all the traditionalists. When folk music was
on the scene and it started to reach its zenith
and reach this point of satiety, we were there and
people were really criticizing what we were doing. And our

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first album was a straight bluegrass album. Well, we had
a lot of people from other parts of the country
who just discovered bluegrass. They would listen to the old
guys and then they would put on blue work shirts
and vest and copy their albums, even to the clicks
on the old vinyl. They'd go, you know, ground hal
ground hauled.

Speaker 12 (11:17):
Since when do you have reverb on the back.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Cour Oh yeah, we got we got some of the
Some of those feet intellectuals would say, you know, since
when did you have echo? Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Purists, of course, the worst I think they're the death
of the music industry. Like an opera. I started out
in the opera world and pure is Yes, I performed
an opera for many years. I have my master's degree
from Temple University. We're right outside Philadelphia, and yeah, so
that was one of the hardest things, is when I
wanted to be an innovator and do these things or
maybe come outside the box a little. No, the purists,

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you must sing Puccini the way Poucini is supposed to
be sung, and it was it was really hard. I
admire that you didn't listen to all of that and
you just went on your own and said, you know what,
screw it, I'm doing this.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
That's pretty much what I did, because I really you know,
I used to a friend of mine used to discuss
it limitations breed style and being limited musically that I've
had sort of developed my own style. But it's very
interesting that you were Did you know who Maria Costa was?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I do not Maria Callis, of course, but no, not
Maria Costa.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
She sang she was snow white on the early Disney stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh of course I know that voice. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
I thought it was very interesting because we did a
Don Knott's Variety show, and she sang a song with
me on that show, and I just thought maybe there
was some you might have known who she was. But
she was a very professional person. But she stepped outside
of her lane and in the bluegrass field, and she
was worried about nailing it, but boy, she nailed it.

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She did write.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Some of the greatest things are when people take that chance,
they just don't listen to the naysayers, go forward and
follow their dream, and magic happens when that happens. And
that's what happened with you. I mean you again to reiterate,
I mean getting that pushback, saying a reverb isn't on
the back porch, and all of those things that you
would have to deal with, and you didn't care, and

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yet you were still selling and selling even so that
Elton John listened to you the very first time he
was over here. I think his first concert in North
America was the Dillards. He listened to you and then
hired you guys to open for him on his first tour.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Well, how things come together, it's all very it's all
very interesting. He came. We were playing a club out
there called the tuba Door, which we played off and
everybody played absolutely and from Bobby Darren to the smotest everybody,
and I saw him sitting up there in the audience.
I thought, oh okay. And on the second set he

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came back and saw us again. We had just released
an album on United Artists, produced by one of the
big producers out there who produced Steppenwolf from a lot
of people, and he asked if we'd go on tour
with him. Well, that that opened up us to another
whole audience and introduced him to our kind of music, bluegrass,
quasi acoustic. That that he really helped us. And he

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was very gracious too, a very gracious person. Let me
come out and sing with you sometimes sometimes he would,
he would come out and sing the last song with us.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Really, Now, how did that go? Was that? That had
to be a very interesting I would love to get
a bootleg of that somewhere. Where does that exist? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, you know that at the time, But we're just
in my life. I've been like a dog with his
head out the wind, that just going along, you know,
enjoying the scenery and the smells and the same boy,
I'm going fast.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, and enjoying every moment. That's how you enjoy life.
You're not stuck in a phone. You're not like today
with the whole AI and this and computers and everything,
where we're more tethered than ever. It's supposed to give
us freedom.

Speaker 11 (14:53):
But we're not.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
We're actually more tied. You got to experience the music and.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
You understand that. You understand and uh pitch correction and
all that stuff that people are now using. Your music
is all sort of Frankenstein together, absolutely, and bits and
beats from other things, and you create music from other
people's music.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Absolutely, And it's sad because a lot of the creativity
and the things that you were creating when you were
just coming out, that's gone. I mean, there are a
few still trying to do that, but it's not They're
very few and far between.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
I was so glad to be a part of that. Now,
the watering Hole, I don't know what it is for
the when to lose. Trek and those guys were all
hanging out there as artists, but we all hung out
at the Troubador Ronstad you name you, name boy xt
and everybody. We hung out there, and we'd all gathered
together and actually we'd sing together. Linda Ronstein had talked

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about that. I saw an interview with her. We'd all
get together and sing things, and that was sort of
an interaction there to create a synergy for that period
of time, which we created a lot of real music goods.
Stuf U.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Absolutely, it's a beautiful community.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
You don't make music like.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I'm the same way. My crew over here always says
that I'm the girl that's always like and I'm not.
You know, I'm pretty relatively young, but I'm always the
person get off my lawn. You know. I'm that person too,
So I understand we're kindred spirits. We might be born
in a different era, but we are kindred spirits that way.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Well you get it.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I get it. I get it, And I also get
the Don Henley may never have been the Don Henley
that we all know and love if we're not for
that faithful night in a snowy night in Texas all
those years ago.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, he came to see us
in Texas because someone when he was in college, and
I forgive me, I can't remember his name. Some big
record producer now or ahead of one of the major labels,
took him an album of Wheat Straw Suite, which is
my departure from traditional music, and said, Hanley, you got
to hear this, and that's the story I got. And

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then Henley, for a while it was almost my next
door neighbor in Hollywood. He came out there to seek
his fortune, and of course the rest is history for him.
But but yeah, I knew Henley before he was, you know,
an eagle.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, and you gave him some very important advice. You
told him to go out to California take a shot
and whoa history.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
We discussed this. We were just talking and he had a
group called Felicity at the time, and uh, I think
he'd been good for a while, and I think he
was ready to either try something else or continue. You know,
he's got a great education English manor I believe, I
think so, very very intelligent man. And uh, I said,
I went to call California. You know, we got lucky

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and it might be something you might want to do.
You kick yourself, you know if you didn't try. So
there he went, and of course his history is chamous
music history.

Speaker 9 (17:57):
Yeah, he changed it in a different way, but similar
to you.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Well, if he had but he really changed it. He well,
we all know that, you know, that's all part of
the history. But very interesting how we all got started
for us, I don't want to take up all the time,
but there's a very interesting story or how we got
to Hollywood. We worked our way across the country in
a fifty five Cadillac and a one wheel trailer and

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probably close to one hundred dollars between the four of us,
and we weren't used to large sums of money like that.
We ran out about two months and got to Oklahoma City,
had to take odd jobs, ended up getting a job
in a folk club there because we auditioned and they
liked what we did. Got enough money to get us

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to La checked into the Melrose Motel in Hollywood, which
you rented by the hour.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
One of those boy and.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
We went down to the place called the ash Grove
which is now the Comedy Store, but it was the
ash Grove and it was the pink tree dish of
the intellectual folk people. So here are four guys from
the Ozarks walk in, start playing on music right then,
and the guy come up and says, you can't do
that here, He said, do it on stage. That's how
he got started. Wow, I'll never forget that first time

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I walked in, this guy walked up to me and says, oh,
what do you think of the existential dilemma? And I said,
I don't know. I was raised Baptist. And he just
walked away.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Perfect, perfect.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
But that's how it all started. It's one of those
stories like you're discovered it in a drug store.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know, Oh, I know if people don't think that
actually existed, and back then it could actually happen for
people like that, and that's sort of undeniable. And when
it happens like that, it was meant to be.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Oh. There was a lot of cases like that that
did the association. How they first formed, that was a
group before your time, but they had a lot of
hits Wendy and never My Love, all those things, but
they farmed together. They were a bunch of guys that
hung around the tuba dooor trying to do something and
they all just went on stage. One night there was
a they couldn't get on stage. There was just a

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bunch of them and it was sort of a fun joke. Well,
they finally reduced it down to that. Those members and
of course their history is noted, but everything happened differently.
Nothing of course, nothing happens the same now, because like
you said, there's just a lot of communication where people
think they're communicating but they're not.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Really, No, they are not. And has anyone ever said
you were kind of like the Forest Gump of the
music industry, not in you know the way of like
life is a box of chocolate, I'm using, Well, you
know what, just give me a shout out, just give
me credit. I will give you that for free. That

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is my gift to you.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
You are funny. Did you ever think about doing this
for a living?

Speaker 2 (20:56):
You know what, I may try. I think a few
people have said it, but.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Oh my god, you have.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
You've touched so many people. I mean, I went through
your history and I love to do my research. Part
of the love of this job that I do is
that I do this deep dive into my guests. I
love to learn almost more about them than they know.
Like you said in the beginning, I kind of tell
you what's going on in your life. And everything I
was reading, I was like, oh my gosh, they had
their hands in that. They had their hands in that
like you even Buffalo Springfield they used your instruments, Neil Young,

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all of them. When they first came out, they were
using the Dillard's instruments.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Well, what happened was is Steve Stills barred my guitar. No,
he didn't borrow he bought it.

Speaker 11 (21:35):
Wow, there you go.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
He never paid me for it.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh, well, then he didn't buy it, he stole it.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
Didn't thank you.

Speaker 9 (21:42):
Didn't you see him again not so many years ago.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Well, a few years ago. I was recording in La.
But then the vocals and some stuff we were doing,
and I see this big dark figure come see me
backwit because of the Studeoo. He came up to me.
He said, you're here recording and I said yeah, And
he said, well you gotta come up here what I'm doing?
He said, as we're walking down things. By the way,
I never paid you for that guitar. I said no,

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and he still didn't.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
He still didn't, not even lunch, not even lunch.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
No. And I saw a picture of Neil Young holding
that guitar saying, this is a guitar I borrowed from
Rodney Doort.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yes, okay, didn't he use one of your guys instruments
for his audition at the whiskey Go go or something.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, see, I'm telling you more than you know. Yeah,
I'm telling.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
You he was beating my soul guitar that was paid for.

Speaker 11 (22:34):
That boy.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
The interest is racking up on that guitar. I think
there's an IOU somewhere.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
I'm just saying he would have been a great lawyer.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, oh yeah, he has the makings of it. Yeah yeah,
yeah yeah. And on that note, I probably should take
a little pause for the cause. But I'm Jarine Taylor
and you're listening to the SCENAA Jorine. When we come back,
I'm going to chat more with the bluegrass pioneer Rodney
Dillard and his beautiful wife Beverly. We're going to dive
headfirst into their newest album and much more. Don't go anywhere.

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six six two seven twenty six hundred.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
You can out the teams home ook that groundhole got.

Speaker 13 (23:56):
Of his home.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
No, never hit your grandma with a great big stick.
Never hit your grandma with the great big stick.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Welcome back to the Seutary and part of the Beasley
Media Group family. I'm your host Story Taylor and coming
out of break you heard a clip of the song
Don't Hit your Grandma with a great big stick off
the new album Songs that made Charlene Cry. By my
guest today Rodney Dillard and of course Beverly Dillard his
Lovely Life the Dillard's and first of all, both of you,

(24:33):
Happy anniversary. This year mark's the sixty fifth birthday of
the Andy Griffith Show, where you guys were cast as
the Darling sixty five years it started.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Wow, it's never been off. The air is never.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Never and it's still I think me TV is still
in syndication. I think when I was getting ready today
to come into the studio, it was playing.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah, it's amazing to me that I can still I
told Beverly that I'd stop going out and doing dates
when I started hearing crickets, and so far it's been
just astounding to me that we can still pull people in.
And I know a lot of it is from me
Andy Griffiths, people who still watched that thing. Millions of

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people still watch.

Speaker 12 (25:14):
Yes, but then from the others too, Like this past
weekend in Illinois, people are bringing in Wich Straw Suite
and tribute to American douct They're bringing in all these albums,
the old ones for.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Him Beautiful, for him to sign Beautiful. You opened the
door five years you say sixty five years ago?

Speaker 12 (25:32):
Yes, watching that at ten years old or nine years
old and in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Did you have any idea Did you have any idea
that here years later you would be sitting here as
the betrothed.

Speaker 12 (25:46):
No, it was you know, we loved that show because
the little town I was from was very much like Maybury,
and it's not far from where Andy grew up. And
we didn't have even a blinking light and no law.
And my daddy, he says to he favored Andy Griffith,
and he took care of everything that happened in town,
like help with the widows and if anyone had a problem,

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and he would plow the roads when it snowed. So
I thought I lived in Maybury, and I thought my
daddy was Andy Griffith.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
When I was little, she got an education and then
she handed her daddy the poeman and started playing the banjo.

Speaker 12 (26:20):
Yeah, I said, here, you've always wanted this, my master's degree.
I'm going to go on the road, Uh, singing, clogging
and playing the band.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
How did they accept that? Were they?

Speaker 9 (26:29):
We didn't?

Speaker 12 (26:30):
I was kind of uh persona non grata and out
of the wheel until I got on Hea hal as
a guest and I'm married.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
At Darland the show.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
So I was back in.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
You got back in. You knew what to do, You
knew what to do to seal the deal. Oh smart girl,
smart girl. Oh you auditioned Rodney right and you got
the You were hired right on spot.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Here's how quickly how it happened. We from the that
little interview or that little thing we did at the Ashcrove.
So happened that some of the agents from William Morris,
the largest agency in the world which handled Danny Griffith show,
and a man who a man who produced records for
Electra and a lot of people he put he was

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the one who produced the Birds and managed the Birds.
Put those guys and that's how we ended up signing
with Electra a few weeks later signing with uh uh
the the agency, and Andy picked up he was doing
a script called The Darlings Are Coming. And he picked
up this script and he was looking at it and

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he says, I need and then he picked up Variety
magazine that says, uh, Electra Records signs these weird looking
guys from the Ozarks who played this really mountain music,
and he said, call him up and bring him over.
We went over there, right, I think they maybe two
weeks in Hollywood Wow. And walked into the Desilu studios
and all the big names at the time with their

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big shows, Dick Van Dyke and all these people, and
there was the Andy Griffith studio. We walked in. They
were shooting an episode I think I could be wrong,
where Don Knots was singing off from the choir so
they so they stopped. Bob Sweeney came up and Andy,
they pull up folding chairs and just sat in front
of us in the microphone. Anything said show us what
you got. Okay. We kicked into a number and about

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halfway through it, Andy strapped his knees and said, that's it.
And I turned to my brother and said, Doug, they're
kicking us out. And we started to leave and he said,
where are you going? You got the job.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
We were always supposed to do one episode, but Sheldon
Leonard came by when we were doing the second episode
and he said, here's the letters that people responded to
and you did the show. Each letter represents two hundred
thousand people. And he dumped all these letters on the table.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
So that's how we ended up doing five shows in
the movie because at that time then we got, as
they say in the business, you got pretty hot at
that time, and you started doing other shows. Judy Garland
all the Tennessee all that, all the specials and the
rock stuff. Absolutely, yeah, and that's how that all started.
With a Dick Clark.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Clark of course.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Yeah, we get a pilot for Dick Clark. He worked
with him for about a month or so in his
office working up a pilot. But but we get pilots,
you know where the bride'smaids had never you know, got married.
We did five pilots and that the marked so well.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I got to ask you something, now, is it true
that you were never paid for your appearances on the show.
You got to do royalties, you got to keep you know,
things like that, but you weren't actually paid for your appearances.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
Oh no, we were paid. We were paid three hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Oh good, Now I read musicians, oh, as musicians, but
not as actors.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
But here's a tribute to Andy. And you know, you
know the business, you know how it works. He came
up to this and now, boys, you're not going to
make any money because there was no residuals back then
for actors. And he says, you're hired as musicians anyway. Yeah,
he says, but I'm going to get every song that
you can write on the show. We average four to
five songs a show. Yeah, okay, this goes through ASCAP

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for the writers.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
You know, right, I'm a member.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
Okay, sixty five years of the Andy Griffith shows.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Think about that.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
It's been worldwide has been very very good to me.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Syndication. Like I said, getting ready today, I heard the show,
so yes, I can chit ching. That's all I gotta say,
chi ching. Yes, that was very good.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
I'm not trying to be arrogant about that, but I
wanted to show what Andy he could have done at all.
As you know, PD traditional amen and the company could
have kept the money.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
That was very generous, very generous of him. He was
actually he played as well. He was a musician as well.
I mean he played in the episodes. What'd you think
of his talent? Now that he's gone, you know, God
rest his soul, how would you actually think of his talent?

Speaker 5 (30:46):
I think Andy really had a passion for music. God
buzz it be saying on key.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 9 (30:52):
Great albums.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
He had a couple of great albums, and he played
the guitar. As a matter of fact, that guitar he
played on the air he used in a movie called
Fate in the Crowd, which I thought was an incredible
job of acting. It's way before anybody's time, but you
ought to see that movie, and it's really ahead of
its time because it shows how a guy went from
you know, picking and playing into this nationwide talk talking

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head guy show.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
Totally different character, different, a very mean, spiritual character.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
But he that was the guitar he played. He played
it in the on that show. It was black, and
he had it, you know, for the movie, and then
he had all the finish taken off. It's a beautiful
Martin d eighteen. But he loved music. And when we
did the Return to Maybury thing, he came into this
where we were pre recording and he bought this metal
doughbro We called it the guitar. He said, I just

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got this and he says, what do you think you do?
And I said that'd be great to use it. So
it's hanging in the scene. He picks it off in
the cabin and plays it. Yeah, to make a long
toy start. Yeah. He loved he loved musicians and pickers.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, man, And how nice that he was a champion
for you and he, like you said, he could have done.
You know how the Hollywood industry is, they're always trying
to you know, for lack of a better words, screw
everybody out of money. And he was generous enough to say, look,
you know, we'll kind of deal this way. And wow,
I mean that was really kind of him.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Oh it was beautiful to him and he didn't know
it passed on my grandchildren. But yeah, the other shows
weren't like that. They were all different than Judy Garland show.
All those were all all different. Right. The only other
person knew who I could equate to having that kind
of kindness and grace about it was Dick Clark.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yes, I've heard that about it.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
He was really a nice man. But I've tried to
drop names here, but.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
No, I love it. You have every right because I
think you've known everybody or played with everybody that has
ever existed in the music industry. But I do want
to talk about the new album because that is what
your your biggest passion is right now, this wonderful tribute
to Mayberry and of course your on screen sister Charlene
played by the late Maggie Peterson. And I know she

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was starting it off with you during COVID. This all
kind of came to be and she was helping and
kind of the process and then you know, a feet
took a took a sad hand and we lost her
in twenty two correct.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yes, yes, Beverly and her when we were close to
but Ben and her were really close.

Speaker 12 (33:15):
Yes, we actually when we were she had always planned
to be a part of this, and even when she
was ill and in the hospital and then and you know,
more of a a kind of care where she wasn't
coming out of we still talk every day. And when
we were writing this during COVID, we just had so

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many laughs with her on the phone over lyrics. Yeah,
so it was very nice to share that. But then
she passed away before we actually got to put this
into being well, and we hated that.

Speaker 9 (33:48):
But I mean, her spirit was there.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I was going to say, she's there right now, she's
heard it. She's probably performing it with you, and she's
with you, and you know, I found it interest because
interesting because you would say on the show, you would say, like,
you know, don't hit your grandma with a big old stick,
and she say no, Paul, you know, no, dog, you
know that's gonna make me cry.

Speaker 11 (34:07):
They didn't.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
You never played the song on the show. You would
always go into a different song.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Well what we did? What Andy set that up in
the writers so they would say, uh, any one time
says let's do dirty me, dirty me, I'm disgusted with
myself and she said, gee, Paul again that makes me cry,
and say, well, let's do Doulee what he did. They
would say these titles and then they would do one
of our songs.

Speaker 9 (34:30):
It's nine funny titles.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Never a song. They never came to.

Speaker 12 (34:36):
And we found the hardest thing was to write a
song to a title. Yeah, I mean, that's not how
you usually do it. You write a song and then you.

Speaker 9 (34:45):
Out of that pick the title.

Speaker 12 (34:47):
Yeah, but we had to write to the title and
that was that was kind of uncharted Brown.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Oh, yeah, it was. It was You know, what we
do anymore is is try to have fun and keep
the anxiety out of our lives. Yes, yes, which is
hard to do.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
This hard to do, very hard, yes, But.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
We managed to do it and managed to have a
good time doing that. And still all those years that
I've been doing this, I finally learned that maybe I
did have something to do with him.

Speaker 12 (35:16):
Well, Rodney, all of our friends still say Friday, he's
never known who he is, you know, he just doesn't
think of himself as the person you're talking about. And
when he got in the Hall of the Country Music
Hall of Fame and they did all this country rock,
and everyone was attributing him and stuff. He said, wait,
maybe I did something, Maybe I did do something, and

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we're all just rolling our eyes.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Right the light bulb went on. Yeah, you know that
might have made you last longer in this industry. That's
why you've been around all of these decades, over a century,
because you never really had to go to your head.
You influenced all these people's lives. You did all of
these incredible accomplishments, but you still are just Ronnie Dillard.
You're still the one going to the mail, getting the mail,

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go and get milk down the road. You're not that
person because you take the time to learn about people
and you apply it to your own life and into
your own music and your craft. Well, congratulations on the
new album, congrats on forty three years, still going strong,
and your birthday, Happy early birthday to you. Thank you,
and uh yes, like I said, Rodneydillard dot TV, check

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out the new album, check out and keep you know,
connected with everything that you're doing. And uh yes, you're
lovely Beverly. Rodney, thank you so much for being on
the show today.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Thank you, thank you very much. I appreciate the fact
that you took a chance in hand us on.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Oh it was not a chance at all. Yeah, I'm
glad you took the chance on me, that you took
your You let me tell your story, and I am
very appreciated, so beautifully. Thank you, Thank you so much.
And you I'm not blowing that's.

Speaker 9 (36:51):
Of this interview, but I love the way you present it.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
You.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Oh, thank you so much and I wish you the best,
and please hit me up anytime. I would love to
have you back.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Okay, take care.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Of have a wonderful day.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
You do.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Bye, don't go anywhere, because right after the break, we
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Speaker 5 (37:38):
This is Radio.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Char's still.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
Chat?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh yeah, not once, not twice, but thrice. Orlando Weekly
called today's Spotlight guest Orlando's best singer songwriter and hailed
her as their pick as best rock act. Emerging singer
songwriter cat Ridgeway has earned countless accolades as a fiercely
independent artist. Her new album, Sprinter, has garnered rave reviews

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from numerous publications, including Magnet and Under the Radar, and
she is out on tour now in select cities nationwide.
So let's shine the light on this hot up and
come or welcome into the spotlight.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Cat.

Speaker 11 (38:51):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
How you doing today?

Speaker 11 (38:54):
I'm doing great? How are you?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I am doing better now that I'm talking to you.
I love your studio. I love the guitars. I love
the look of everything, and you play all of them.

Speaker 11 (39:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
Actually, uh, this one's actually my brothers and he's the
reason I got into playing music at all.

Speaker 11 (39:09):
So it's kind of nice that it's kind of front
and center.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So did he give it to you or did you
kind of like abscond with it one of these days
and you kind of Oh no, he still plays.

Speaker 11 (39:16):
He plays with the band and stuff. When I'm down
here and very cool.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
Yeah, so that's that's his strat right there. I'm an
epiphone gally.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh there you go. See the size matters kind of thing.
Now I'm looking at the comparison there side by side.
Very nice. Well. I got to say, first off, congrats
on your new album, Sprinter. I love it. It's so
really really your best work, I think.

Speaker 11 (39:40):
Thank you very much. I tend to agree.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yes, I saw some of your posts about it when
you were like in the studio mastering and doing all
your final edits, and yeah, you seem very excited and
rightfully so thank you.

Speaker 11 (39:52):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 8 (39:53):
It was a pretty big shift from the last record,
and it feels a lot more aligned with the kind
of music that made me want to make music in
the first place.

Speaker 11 (40:00):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I love the new indie rock style of the album.
It's a big departure from your previous Americana that was
like you were leaning heavily towards that. Why the shift?

Speaker 7 (40:10):
Why?

Speaker 5 (40:11):
Now?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
You know?

Speaker 11 (40:13):
It was more Okay.

Speaker 8 (40:14):
I had awesome opportunities to work with great teams of people,
and I got started when I was really young, and
because of that, I kind of just let the music
take me where it wanted to.

Speaker 11 (40:26):
And this was the first time.

Speaker 8 (40:27):
I was like, Okay, but what's the record I want
to make and what makes me excited as an artist?
And that's what I just dove into headfirst on this
particular record. And it's funny because so many people have
said it feels like a new sound, but when I
listened back to my demos of stuff I was recording
back when I was in high school in college, like,

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this is what everything I made sounded like, and so
it really feels more like I'm just coming back to
myself on this one.

Speaker 9 (40:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
You know what, as an artist and in life in general,
when we are true to ourselves, that's when we truly shine.
And I can hear that especially. I really love the
title track the when I played off the top here,
It's quite an emotional song for you too, I know you. Yeah,
it helped you come to terms with the loss of
a very dear friend, m.

Speaker 8 (41:15):
Yeah, and it was That song has changed my life
in ways I can't even express fully. I had never
really touched on subject matter that deep before in my lyrics,
let alone told stories around songs like that, And now
that that door.

Speaker 11 (41:32):
Has been opened with Sprinter.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
I have had so many people come up after shows
telling me really beautiful, very touching stories, and I just
never could have imagined the community that this song has
brought into my life. And it's actually really cool because
in sharing the story, we've actually even partnered with an
organization called Find Your Anchor, and it's a suicide prevention

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team and they put together these little boxes that are
full of trinkets and reminders of reasons to stick around,
and so we've collabed with them and we're gonna have
a bunch of their boxes for free at our merch
table at shows. So it feels really really cool to
have something that was really tragic in my life become

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a catalyst for people tangibly being helped.

Speaker 11 (42:24):
It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yes, it's amazing how music can bridge gaps, can join
people that otherwise would never meet, and just have that
universal language that doesn't matter what language you speak, doesn't matter.
Everybody can find something that they understand in the lyric. Yeah,
it's really beautiful that you did that for your friend,
And I love that you took a negative, like you said,

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and turned it into something positive and perhaps have helped
many others through this by illuminating your personal story and
your friend's story.

Speaker 11 (42:55):
Yeah, and seriously, it's kind of funny.

Speaker 8 (42:58):
I was talking to a friend about this a little
while ago, and I was like, it doesn't even feel
right for me to take credit.

Speaker 11 (43:05):
My friend is the one who's helping.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
Everybody, and I'm just glad I got to play a
role in that by writing a song.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
You know, you're there to tell the message. You're the
how they said, storyteller to show the message and pass
that along. And you're doing a beautiful job of that.

Speaker 11 (43:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
You're welcome. And you are very eclectic, and you're not
just in your vocals but also in your writing. And
you infuse a lot of different styles in your music,
sometimes even in the same tune. I notice you like
to kind of have different kind of colors all in
one song.

Speaker 8 (43:37):
Yeah, eighty HD is a hell of a drug.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I understand completely. So if I go off on a tangent,
you understand then what we're doing here. Oh my god, Yeah,
I just sit still, right, I know?

Speaker 8 (43:50):
Ah oh yeah, And I mean it's hilarious. But like,
the reason I drink so much coffee is because it
actually does a very similar thing to your brain as adderall.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Oh see, I did not know that that's what I've
been doing. Say, I've been self medicating all of these years,
and I had no idea.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
Right same actually, and then when I found that out,
I was like, Oh, that's why I can take a
nap after I have a double shot of espresso.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Like true crazy people have always said that to me.
They're like, how can you drink coffee like late at
night and I just go right to bed. I'm like,
it doesn't affect me, and it actually calms me and
sometimes so see I understand.

Speaker 8 (44:26):
Yep, see, it's like a zin thing, Like I do
feel slightly more energized, but I feel mentally chiller.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yes, your sound is super fresh, and but I also
hear a lot of other influences from some of the
great bands like that from the eighties and the nineties, Pixies,
even Smashing Pumpkins at times. Who do you think are
your greatest musical influences?

Speaker 8 (44:47):
Well that just made me really happy. I've always loved
the Pixies. Oh yeah, well, how can one of my
favorite bands ever? I can hear them on this particular record.
I was I had been listening to a lot of
pine grin, and I had also been really into Dijon,
even though I feel like that's coming across more in

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like drum tones rather than like a sound specifically. But yeah,
I would say we were drawing from all sorts of stuff.

Speaker 11 (45:17):
It's kind of funny.

Speaker 8 (45:18):
I have on a Fleetwood Mac shirt right now, but
one of them we referenced Fleetwood Mac a lot. Santa
Gold was another one that came up a lot in
the studio.

Speaker 11 (45:27):
I mean, I am all across the board.

Speaker 8 (45:30):
I've always loved everything, but we were talking a lot
about early indie alt music and nineties alternative a lot
of the time, So lots of references like I mean
the classics of like Nirvana and the Food Fighters and
stuff like that, but then also like the Cramps and
like earlier Ramones and.

Speaker 11 (45:51):
Stuff like that. I heard channeling, you know.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
Yeah, lots of stuff across the board, but definitely emphasis
I would say on alt rock.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
And cat Ridgeway. Your own sound infused in all of that.
That's what the beauty is. You take all of those influences,
put them in a pot, you stir them up, and
then you add yourself into the mix, and it becomes
this whole new thing for you.

Speaker 11 (46:14):
Yeah, I love that so much fun.

Speaker 8 (46:16):
And working with my co producer too, man, it was
he's one of my favorite musicians. And then getting to
work with him in the studio. His name's Mike and
he goes by tall, tall trees, So getting to work
with him in the studio, he pulled things out of
me that I didn't even know were there.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
That's the job of an amazing producer, and that is
why they I missed that a lot of the times,
the old school kind of recording process that was back
in the day. They don't really do that anymore. They
don't have, you know, a producer sitting there in the
booth telling you and guiding you and helping you. A
lot of people doing in a basement now are they doing?
You know? And it's kind of cool that you have
that and you're keeping true to the old while bringing

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in the new.

Speaker 8 (46:55):
It made me so much better as a songwriter and
an artist. Honestly, this was the first time I feel
like I had someone who fully understood my vision on
a record. When we were in the studio together, and
so I would show Mike things and he was the

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person who would look me straight in the eyes and say, yeah,
that's cool, but I think you can do better.

Speaker 11 (47:23):
And that is the.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
Most valuable thing I have ever experienced as a songwriter,
because to have somebody just straight up say yeah, that's cool,
but like there's more in you and forcing you to
write a song five times over and then when you
get to the fifth iteration you're like, oh, wow, that
is what that song wanted to be. It is just
such a It was such a beautiful collaborative partnership. Like

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I mean, the spirit of collaboration when there's no ego involved,
is just working toward the common goal of making the
music best it can possibly be. And Mike was one
thousand percent in the zone and it was just oh
so great.

Speaker 11 (48:07):
I hope we do so much more together. I adore him.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Well, shout out to you as well, like you kind
of touched on it. You didn't say, you know what
at the second or the third time you're writing it, Hey,
I think this is good enough and let you know,
And you didn't fight back. You embraced the collaboration, you
embraced the advice. And that's a great artist too. A
lot of the artists sometimes they'll get there and it'll
be so wrapped in their own whatever that they're just
I like it the way I have it. Sorry, Sorry,

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And you know you sometimes you can fight for that.
But the fact that you embraced the collaboration and came
out better for it, that's a beautiful testament to working
together with very talented individuals.

Speaker 11 (48:40):
It was. It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yes, and your newest single, what If, hit the number
one spot on the CDX Surging and Emerging AAA Charge
and number seventy one on the Media Base. Activator aach
Art as a fully independent artist that has to feel
pretty damn good.

Speaker 8 (48:56):
Dude, I'm not over it, never gonna be over that.
It's so funny, Like God, that song is so stupid.
I wrote that after I got lost in the woods
and thought I would never find my way back to
civilization and I was freaking out and spiraling, and I
wrote that song as a way to calm myself down.

Speaker 11 (49:18):
And I showed it to Mike and he was like,
I love this, yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:21):
And I was like, it's cool, but with the banjo
and everything, like, I just don't want it to sound
like a banjo like bluegrass kind of thing.

Speaker 11 (49:29):
And it was like let's not make bluegrass decisions.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah, yeah, And I was like, it's not easy.

Speaker 11 (49:35):
It's like it's that easy.

Speaker 8 (49:36):
And then we just went out into left field talking
about influences and stuff. We were talking a lot about
two yards on that record, and we used like this
little cassio keyboard that he had in a bin somewhere
and have you ever heard in h what's the song?

Speaker 11 (49:56):
Yeah, I'm happy. Do you think glad I got Sasha?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yes, of course absolutely.

Speaker 11 (50:01):
So you know how they started that track, They had like.

Speaker 8 (50:07):
What was it, an omnichord and it had these presets
in it, and they played one of the presets, and
that is the.

Speaker 11 (50:12):
Boom that the whole track is based off of.

Speaker 8 (50:17):
Right, And so I had this banjo thing for what
if And Mike pulls this eighties cassio out of this
bin and he just first preset, he hits correct key,
correct tempo FA, and.

Speaker 11 (50:30):
We just looked at each other face. It's a sign
from God.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Those are the things where you just can't deny. You
know that there's something, but something else is that play there,
and you don't fight that, you just don't and obviously
look at it, look how it's doing. I mean with
all the charts and and and just really it's it's
it's incredible. It's like I said, as an indie artist
to doing it all by yourself and a woman, thank
you very much. Love that that you're doing that. And

(50:58):
so I've the choices you made were pretty right on.

Speaker 8 (51:03):
Yeah, I mean, I've had a lot of help. I
can't take credit for everything. I do have a bit
of a team now too, which is really awesome. That's
been helping to get this record out into the world.
I'm still independent though, because we're not with a label.

Speaker 11 (51:17):
So it's really really cool.

Speaker 8 (51:19):
And yeah, being able to just see a song that
we one thousand percent followed our instincts on do Well
is so validating as an artist because there are so
many times people will have these ideas of what they
think you should do, or this idea of you as
a person in their head, and they think it should

(51:41):
influence the sound. And Mike never put that on me,
and he guided me in such a weird place on
that song. It never would have sounded like it sounds
now if it hadn't been for him. But I'm super
pumped and it reminds me of a lot of cool
stuff from like the twenty tens era that I I
loved listening to you when it came out.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Can you imagine we talk about that in such past
tense now twenty tens, I'm like, yeah, that was, that's
already like what fifteen sixteen years ago. That's good. We're
talking about it in past tense. It feels like it
was just yesterday. And I'm starting to date myself here,
So I'm gonna stop this line of communication right now.

Speaker 8 (52:20):
No, me too, Me too, though, Like I'm just like
dang man, I was in like, uh, middle school, high
school like around that era.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Oh you're just ancient then, my god. No, okay, let's
just sign you up for like you know, the old
folks home right now. They're tired. Let's just throw away
the key. Let's put you somewhere. We're gonna get some
uh depends or a tends for you.

Speaker 8 (52:43):
So, oh, you know, honestly would be useful in the
cour dance situation.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
All right, tm I that will be classified in the
out take section of the show. So while I have
you on that, and I don't have I have no
idea how to segue from that to this. But you're
now Catridgeway and the tourists. You're out touring this spring
and select cities across the country, and I've heard you
put on quite the live show. Every night's kind of

(53:10):
the sweaty, exciting part party. I'm sure this new tour
is no exception, right, yes, yeah, So what can people
expect to see when they come out to see a
cat Ridgeway show.

Speaker 8 (53:21):
We actually we just got through with rehearsals yesterday and
I am so excited for this particular leg. We've broken
everything down to a trio. But because there's less people
than we used to have in a live setting, there's
more space for everyone to expand into and so there's

(53:41):
a lot more soundscaping going on. I've incorporated more looping
with the band. Where it used to be more like
the looping was a solo show and the live band
was the live band. But now I'm bridging that gap
and it is very, very cool.

Speaker 11 (53:57):
It's opened up a lot of stuff for you to expel.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
You can be a trio because you play fifty thousand
instruments yourself, so technically it's not a trio. After you're
getting done.

Speaker 8 (54:08):
With this, we're all taking up a lot of real
estate sonically.

Speaker 11 (54:13):
We're coming together like that though.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
That's awesome. Well, I know that you're gonna be hitting
the New York City area. You're in a lot of
our sister stations, Atlanta, You're gonna beat to Chicago, where
you're right near Kunit Square, near Philadelphia where we originate,
right out of that's where we are. So I want
all of everybody listening to check out Caatridgeway dot com,
get the new album Sprinter, check out cat Ridgeway and

(54:35):
the tourists on their spring tour in a city near you.
And you are just so lovely, so talented, and I
would love to meet you when you come over here.

Speaker 11 (54:44):
Oh my god, let's go grab a coffee.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Yes, yes, we will chill out together. It'll be our
leg downtime. We'll do it at like midnight. Well, you,
I have had a pleasure speaking to you, and I
see amazing things for you. I'm so happy you came
and joined us on the Spotlight to and please keep
us updated with everything you're doing.

Speaker 8 (55:03):
Absolutely, and seriously, thank you so much for taking the
time to listen to the record and to hang out
with me this morning.

Speaker 11 (55:09):
I really really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
You never need to thank me. It's great music and
it was an honor to listen to it.

Speaker 11 (55:13):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Thank you you take care you too. Cheers, cheers, Bye.
Thank you to my guest today, the wonderful cat Ridgeway
and of course Rodney and Beverly Dillard of the Dillards.
And thank you again for tuning into the Scene with Doreen.
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