KCAA: The Scene with Doreen (Tue, 3 Jun, 2025)

KCAA: The Scene with Doreen on Tue, 3 Jun, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nineteen thirty two dot Org.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey, USA, what's going on? Welcome to the scene with Dorian.
I'm your host, Dorian Taylor, setting the scene every week
to help you find out what's happening in music, TV, movie, sports,
the arts and everything in between. We're proud to be
syndicated on station's coast to coast and originating right here
in the City of Brotherly Love on Philadelphia's number one
talk radio station, Talk eight sixty WWDB. Well, we're past

(00:38):
Memorial Day. We're now entering into the thick of summer season,
and I am back here behind the mic and with
my incredible producer Matt Manaricai. Matt, Hey, Dorian, how you
doing good? Because it's National paper Clip Day today?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Oh you love your paper cup?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Hey zoo your folder here? You have right have a
collection every single show I payperclip the interview.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Old school.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm paper I don't have you know, an iPad or
anything here. We are very old school here and it's
sheets of paper and I have a paper clip all
the time. So this is like made for me.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Do you save them?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Do you have like a display at your house with
this is the paper clip from this person's interview, like,
this is William Shatner's paper clip.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
That would be cool. We can sell them on eBay.
Maybe a giveaway on the show for the serial killers
have stuff like that too. Well, I didn't like jam
their eyes out with it. That's true trophy. Maybe if
I stabbed them with it, and I'd say, okay, this
one killed William Shanner. This one killed our guests today. No, no, no,
none of the guests have been killed. No, we have

(01:38):
no guests have been harmed in the making of the
scene with Dorian. We must say that.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
We have to have a disclaimer instead of the disclaimer
we usually use in the front of the show. I
think that should be the disclaimer. Yes, sure, well we
are because you know what, we keep saying it and
we're getting closer and closer to that hundredth episode.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Almost there.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Two weeks to go, two weeks to go. This is
ninety eight, ninety eight show ninety eight. That's pretty cool.
I mean, we had way more guests than ninety eight guests,
but this is the actual ninety eighth show. So this, yeah,
it's kind of exciting.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
It is.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't know if I'll see one hundred years in
like real life, but this is like the closest. Maybe
I'll get to one hundred years of anything. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
That is very cool.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean that just took all the research you have
to do for all these guests. It's not like you
just wake up and there's the guests there and you
have everything off the top of your head. I know,
you talk about all the research you have to do,
so I mean that's a hell of an accomplishment.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
My head hurts a lot of the time, you know,
like they say, you only have so much mind space,
and eventually you start forgetting other things. Well, I can't
remember anything untill like when I was ten years old
now because of all the research that I've done on
these people.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, you have probably stuff in your mind that you'd
like to forget.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's the stuff that stays. Unfortunately, why does that stay?
I don't know. This is the stuff you want to forget,
but yet that never.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Goes because I don't know. Negative things people seem to
like a car crash. People like to see car crashes.
That's a negative thing. But why, I mean, there's nothing.
Who knows why?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
But people get it's a fascination it's kind of like
what we're doing. We're going into these celebrities lives and
we're finding out those little things people want to see
into the story. They want to see and they like
the negative part. A lot of people want to hear
oh my god, you know, like Charlie Sheen back in
the day, that was like from page news with this
old tiger's blood and crazy, you know, winning and all
that stuff. I mean, every day you would hear something

(03:27):
about Charlie Sheen and it was never good.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I think people like hearing negative things because maybe subconsciously
they feel better about themselves if they hear bad things
about other people, especially celebrities, because they're put up on
this pedestal, like, you know, they have the best life
in the world. They're millionaires, they live glamorous lifestyle, and
if you hear something negative about them, then you feel

(03:51):
better about yourself.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's true, and it's nice to know that the real
people like what we've learned for almost one hundred episodes. Now,
everyone has something in their past think oh god, their
life is so great. I want to be them. But
then when we start digging in, every one of them
has something that maybe they're not proud of or maybe
they wish they could have done differently. Nobody's really happy.
I don't think anybody in the world is happy. We
just find happiness within what we were given if we can,

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and we're lucky enough. But yeah, yeah, a lot of
people are just miserable. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I mean, you do all these zooms, all the all
the interviews are through zoom, and you know, you know
a lot of these artists or actors or whatever based
on what you see on TV. And they're sitting there
like they're dining room. Well, that's just a normal house.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
No, they don't have the butler's coming in. You know,
maybe some do, but I never see it.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yet.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
None of them are sor I serve you your daily
Coco or caviat you know. No, they're not regular people are.
Oh today though, because we're getting into the hundredths, we
have this really awesome guess and it's somebody because we're
doing radio and radio is sort of a dying art
in some ways, and we've got podcasts now, but the
actual land of the radio people don't realize. Back in

(04:57):
the eighties and nineties, it was like your your can
to the world was radio. I mean, every show, every
you know, the biggest show in the world was in
the nineteen nineties. We're more than one billion people a
week we're listening to it. And we have the host
of that show today on the show with us, and
I said, who better to start celebrating our radio one
hundredth episode than this man.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be great. I mean you don't
even need to you don't even have to say what
his name is. If they hear his voice, people are
gonna be like, Okay, I know who that.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Is below and slow. He popularized that form of radio,
and everybody's got the low, you know voice now, but
he was one of the first to actually do that,
and I think he's the one that, you know, really
made it kind of popular.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, I think we should get to it.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
There are not many people in the world where you
can just hear their voice and instantly recognize who they are,
well at first. Today on the Scene with Doreen is
a guest who not only accomplished that, but has a
voice that has been heard more times than Ronald Reagan, Gorbachev,
or the Pope Award winning worldwide personality and innovator for radio, television, film,

(05:58):
new media and visual arts. Shadow Stevens is best known
for hosting the wildly popular American Top forty syndicated Countdown
radio show from nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety five. However,
he's also rocked to the airwaves as the co founder
and creator of Sammy Hagar's rock station Cabo Wabbo Radio,
the announcer on The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson

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on CBS, and even created the first financially successful album
rock format in America km E t FM. Take a listen.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
From Hollywood.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
It's another lightning run up the official Billboard chart on
American Top forty. I am Shadow Stevens with your hit
week from forty to number one, the most popular songs
across the USA that hits everyone's buying and radio stations
are playing this week. The most controversial rock and roll
band of the nineteen nine.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Oh Yes, Billboard Magazine, Progressive Personality of the Year Award
and Cleo Award winners show Shaddo Stevens is still going strong.
His cutting edge creativity and keen marketing talent has propelled
his latest achievement, the Mental radio podcast, a highly produced
theater of the mind anthology of stories, adventures, sketches, and

(07:14):
cliffhanger serials spanning sci fi, fantasy, comedy and parody. From
one radio host to another, it is an honor and
privilege to welcome the low and slow voice of our generation,
a true renaissance man, the fabulous Shadow Stevens to the show.
Welcome Shadow. What's going on?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's another great day to do something different.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Wonderful and I am different. I guess I could be
classified as something different.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yes, yes, yes, different.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes, And you know what a lot of my ex
boyfriends would say, I'm very very different.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yes to tell Oh.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yes, I'm glad you're not profiling me. I'm glad I'm
on this side today, because that could be interesting.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, it's good. It's good to officially meet.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
You, likewise and sell all.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Of those of the many interviews you've done with every
one from John Anderson and William Shatner and whoa, I'm
in lofty company.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh you fit there. I mean, come on, as I
was researching you, it's unbelievable how you started. I mean
you you came right out of the womb. I almost
want to say you did. You came out right out
of the womb knowing you were going to be a star.
You just knew. And some people, you know, stumble into
this radio thing later in life like I did. But you,
my friend, you knew at age ten that you were

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destined to dominate the airwaves.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, I was.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
I was destined by my mother, who taught me when
I was two how to change records on a little
record player.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
And she said, I did it addictively, instantly.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
It was play one other one, play another one, play
another one, turn it over, play another one.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
And thus I became obsessed.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, you know that's a good word, obsession, because I've
noticed it also while it was in your blood. I
know that your dad and your uncle owned a station
in North Dakota. But the apple fall didn't fall farf
from the tree. I mean, Life magazine right out of
the gate, dubbed you America's youngest DJ. You built your
own studio. You were up in the attic creating parts

(09:25):
and sixteen things they did.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
I did, And you know it's insane. As I was
ten years old and I had built this little radio stick.
You know, I soldered it all together, and I took
it to a television shop and I said, how do
I soup this up? And he taught me what to do,
and then he said, you got to put up a
big antenna. So I crawled to the top of my
three story house, like the crawl along the edge, with

(09:48):
a wire between my teeth and a hammer in my
back pocket.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
And I hung upside down, three stories up into the
top of the house and hammered this loop in it
touched the wire to it, crawled back down, climbed to
the top of a tree in the backyard, one hundred
feet in the air.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
Oh my god, I'm tired.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
My parents had no idea that.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I was going to ask. Where were your parents at
this point?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I don't know. I think they were busy.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I would think so otherwise, I don't know. Maybe call
to a child protective services. I don't know. Maybe you
were destined to be Indiana Jones. Maybe that was your.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Thing too, That was it. Yeah, I fell short.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
No, you didn't fall at all, thank god, because that
could have also happened. But you know, I want to say,
obviously your voice didn't sound like this a ten years old,
I wouldn't think you were, you know, talking this way
but I.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Have I have tape. I don't have tapes of ten
years old, but I have tapes. When I went to
the University of North Dakota and I was putting myself
through school with radio.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
And I was really terrible. I had a lot of enthusiasm.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
Well that comes for something, but you know, it just.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Proved that if you try and try and work and
work and work at it. Because I would go to
the station and stay until four in the morning. Wow,
and I was just obsessed. I would listen back and go, oh,
it doesn't sound great. I got to fix that, and
then little by little I developed a style, but it
was it's a humbling beginning to look back in here.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, nowadays that would actually still be good, probably in
the whole radio market. You know, the times have changed.
That voice that you have that's just like it's like glass.
I mean, it's just beautiful, it's smooth and sexy. That
doesn't really happen much anymore. I hate to say it,
it's a dying art.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
Well, the thing is that everybody jumps in and is
doing it right away and they don't have to refine
what they do, including you know, reading, learning how to
read learning how to interpret, how to write. Everybody is
a star from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Thank you social media. That I blame on social media.
Everybody has a voice, and some people should not have voices.
They just shouldn't. I'm sorry, they just shouldn't.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Find another way to go. I maybe the make up
for it with personality. I think that happens a lot.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, So what do you do when you had puberty?
Because you were doing this DJ. I think at ten
you were really serious about it. I mean, your your
signal was going quite far. After you own this thing
three stories up, you're set.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I could broadcast a mile in every direction.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
We put an album on and go out in the
car and go, oh yeah, yeah, I've still got it.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I've still got it. It was oh so, it's so exciting.
It was magic.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
And I was also into art. My mother taught me
how to draw when I was six or seven years old.
And so the other thing I did was I do
monster T shirts in the mall and you know, they
big Daddy roth. I don't know if anybody remembers that,
but there were you know, custom T shirts and sweatshirts
in the mall with an airbrush. And when I went

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to the University of North Dakota. I was in art major.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
And radio was a convenient way to put myself through school.
And then in my fourth.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
Year of college, I went to the University of Arizona,
and I thought maybe I should you know, I was
going to media and so.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
It was a drama major and a journalism minor. So
I learned how to write.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, yeah, you had it all. You're kind of, like
I said, a renaissance man. You really have talent in
so many areas. And as we evolve throughout this discussion,
you're going to see my listeners and viewers how much,
how versatile and varied your career has gone. One did
you popular Well, when did that slow and low voice

(13:44):
come to be? I know you started out you said
you were you were not what you thought is good
in the beginning, you really popularized that style, and nobody
really kind of did it. So how when did that
come to be? When did you find that?

Speaker 6 (13:57):
You know, like everything, you work at it and grow
and change. And by the time I was in Arizona,
I had a bit of his style enough to get
me to Boston. Because I was at University of Arizona
for two years and then I went to Boston and
I got real successful in Boston. Also started doing television

(14:17):
while I was there, but the station was huge. Thirty
three percent of all people listening to radio were listening
to w RKO.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
That's incredible.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
And so I was really successful there and doing television.
And that's when I came to LA a year later.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, and the rest was sort of history. As we
would say, you don't really have an accent, I know,
like you're from the Dakotas. They have quite kind.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
Of and the folks that I was doing that mock Norwegian.
I'm Norwegian background, and I would do that for years
before the movie Fargo came out. Yeah, gone up in
towns down to you know, I walk across the broom.

(15:03):
I'm walking across the rooms. You just add a esca
in to it, lilt.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's true.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Merlyn Croker creeked the name of over five thousand drugs
and playing the game Drugs or Cheese on NPRS.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Oh that's perfect. Oh yes, Well did you have to
work at getting the accent out? I mean, because you've
been everywhere you did, like you said, Arizona, North Dakota.
You were in Boston, which is another one. Parc the car,
I mean that's another whole one. Yeah, that can come
into the whole play. Did you have to like fight that?

Speaker 6 (15:37):
No, No, I didn't have an accent, lucky you. My
people in my town had something more than others.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Uh. And it's funny, but those are all kind of
going away now.

Speaker 6 (15:54):
You know, Southern accent is starting to go away, and
the Midwest accent is you know, everybody's exposed to everything.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
True. Yeah, Like I grew up in Buffalo, New York,
so when I go home, it comes back really bad.
But yeah, but I also what was that? I'm sorry? Yeah,
And it just it's sort of your ear starts to
train itself to just go with and what feels most comfortable.
And that was what was what I spoke when I
grow up. I grew up and then went to Hartford,

(16:23):
which has no accent, and I was out there for
grad school. So yes, and now Philadelphia area. So I
have no idea water and things like that. I have
no idea.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I just fight it.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, I just fight it. But it could be maddening.
It's crazy. And you did, you moved around and you
had all these successes all over the place and You've
always kind of maintained this shadow. Steven's just perfect form
of speaking.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
You know, you just work at everything. If you're really serious.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
About something, you you you tape, you listen, you're refine,
you get better. You write a lot, you read a lot,
You write more, You write more, you write more.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I think that the more.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
If you want to be in communications, you have to
learn to speak, and you have to have to use
words mean idea to be able to learn to write.
And I had to learn to write around my around
my abilities. When I was in college, I had this,

(17:20):
I had this.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Uh. I was taking.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
A course in radio, but I was working in radio
and the the head of the department made fun of
me once he said, you have a sillibant S. And
it gave me a mental block. Every time I said
a word with an S in it, I was self conscious.

(17:45):
So I learned to write around esids. I would write
so that everything flowed fluently.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know, it's like like like pudding. Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So you never spoken plural. There are a lot of multiples.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
There at all costs.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know, everything was singular only couldn't say singular either,
So I wow that, I mean, that had to be
maddening within itself.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
To go through all that, well, it was so it
just made me really conscious of everything. And so I
decided that what I would do is refine a perfect
S not too sharp, not too long, just the right
amount of s. And to some degree I succeeded and
some I didn't.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, it's very similar to music. I mean that is,
the s's are always a problem, you know, the plosives,
the p's and everything. You know, obviously with singing as
well and performing on a mic in the recording studio.
It's very similar. And the whole kind of an s's. Oh,
you know, if you have a good engineer, thank god
they cut them down. But yes, they can be the
death of you.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah. Yeah, harsh, very harsh.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yes, very yes. We all sound like we're losing air.
We become snakes. Yeah, there's just like a lot of
things going on. I have to ask you now, you
are a trailblazer because in the world of radio and marketing,
you also have a keen ear for talent. Is it
true you were the first to play David Bowie and
Queen in the United States?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, well, you know what, it's really interesting.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
I came to Los Angeles to what was one of
the biggest stations in the country.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
And I was like twenty three years old.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
And I was on television. I was on I was
Steve Doland's sidekick on television. I was the Ed McMahon
on the Steve Doland Show. So when it came time
for me to be promoted at KHJ, they wouldn't do
it because they didn't know whether I wanted to be
in television or radio.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
And I quit.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
I said, look, I'm not going to be subject to
your whims, take my chances, and within a day I
was hired by Krola, their biggest competition, and within three
months they made me program director. I was twenty four
years old by that time, and at twenty four years old,
I created the station and it was hiring everybody that

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I loved, the most talented people I could find, and
it was really successful and it came like it continued
like that. It was what makes good radio, discovering new songs.
So we made it a point to look for new
music and that was the whole part of the format.

(20:28):
It was album rock on AM. And I had a
friend in England who said he sent me David Bowie
and said you got to play this. He's like the
hottest thing in London right now. And of course we
loved it and played it. And then when I went
to start k K Rock that it was a more

(20:49):
refined version of that and it was all cutting edge music.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
All party, all the time.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
And the first song we played was Queen keep Yourself
Alive because the station.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Was in danger of going under at any.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
Minute, and so it became our theme song, keep Yourself Alive,
keep Yourself Alive. So we were the first people in
America to play Queen. It continued like that with all
the punk rock and everything else that came to be.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
So you were breaking artists over here.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Ky rock was at the cutting edge.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Sure, yeah, you were responsible for breaking artists in the
u US, exposing them at least to a whole new,
obviously continent.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Yeah, it was exciting, like opening Christmas Presents. It's something
new and you go, oh, I have to hear that
again right now. So exciting.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
So nineteen eighty eight, almost forty years ago, it's kind
of crazy to think about. Everything just explodes. You land
the hosting duties of the biggest radio show of all time,
American Top forty. You replaced Casey Kasem, who was very
well known at the time, and was it difficult just
walking into those shoes?

Speaker 6 (21:57):
Yeah, yes, before you Yes, because I'd made my entire
career on humor. Everything I did was tongue in cheek.
I did a lot of radio theater on all of
these shows. Production was my main interest, production and new music,
and so I'd done that at k Rock and km ET,

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and then I started a production company and did you
know the all the advertising for the Blues Brothers movie
and Fast Times at Bridgemont High. And then I did
the Federated television commercials out here on the West Coast,
and that became the biggest I.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Was like a cult following, like massive, massive following, Yes,
all over.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
The West Coast these commercials, and they're.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Funny, They're really funny, and they're very well.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
They're funny this day.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
If people want to want to touch it, you can
watch the little half hour documentary Bludgeon Advertising on YouTube
perfect and it's all of our favorite commercials. We did
eleven hundred commercials. And one of the reasons that I
got American Top forty is because I had come out
of radio.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I had television experience. Then I was.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
Hired to be on Hollywood Squares and it became the
number one show in the year. Yes, and so with
all that, I got American Top forty. But I'm stepping
into the shoes of the most earnest man in history.
Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for this.
You know, I could not do that. And the first

(23:28):
the first four hour show we did, took eighteen hours
to record. Every sentence had to be rewritten for my voice.
I couldn't do it. It sounded stupid when I read that,
you know, it's like, I can't do that. And so
I had, you know, my neck was tight, and I
was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's not a marathon. That's just insanity. I mean, that
is really crazy. I don't know who could take you know,
do that and undertake that. Did you want it? To say?
What did I do? I want to give up?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
What have I gotten into it?

Speaker 6 (23:59):
And everybody was hanging on me because I'm stepping into
the shoes of the most popular guy in the world.
And everybody wanted, you know, like an ultra.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Critical and with great fear that I would be able
to step up.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
But then when you know, after a few weeks we
got it down and they're writing because he would do like,
keep your feet on the ground, keep reaching for the stars.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
So I had to come up with a little humor.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
So I would say things like, and remember, kids, the
world is your oyster, so if you can't find your pearl,
you can always have lunch there.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
That's better. It's better. I love it. I think that's
better than reaching for the stars. I mean that's nice.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
That's the only way I could do it.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
You know I sounded like an idiot.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well you know, I'll tell you whatever you did worked
because it grew to one billion listeners. I mean in
one hundred and ten countries. That's not million, that's billion.
With a bee b as a boy that you know what,
whoever was the NASA or the people that were, you know,
putting that pressure on you, you know what's sit back and
enjoy because that's not I mean anything replicated I had.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
You know, I had to fly around the world and
promote it.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
You know, I had to go to Tokyo and Hong
Kong and Norway and everywhere.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
And are you bilingual? Are you tri lingual? Are you polylingual?
I mean, do you can you speak on their languages?
Are you just you know here I am, I'm speaking American.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I'm speaking American, you're American. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
But the what they would do is they would teach
me to do it phonetically, so that I always wanted
if I was doing a promo for in Portuguese, they
would break it down for me. And I did that
for stations all over the world. I'm still a huge
group of people in South America and Latin America we

(25:50):
stay in touch with me. I just did an interview
a couple of weeks ago with a guy from Argentina,
and there's a whole group of people in Latin America
that were huge followers of American Top forty at that time.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Oh yes, well, you know, you touch people. We were
part of their lives weekly. You're in their lives, you're
in their homes. This was before where you had streaming
in this and that, there's so many choices. This was
like you at the time they said you were heard
more than Reagan, Gorbachev and the Pope.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
I mean, well, yeah, that is like you know, before
social media, it was the heartbeat of how you learned
about new movies and about new music and what was
going on in entertainment, and people on the radio were
the hub of all of that.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
It was an exciting time.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
And you were in their home, so you become almost
like family. They look forward to hearing that voice. They
want to tune in every week because you touch them
in a way, and they miss you when you're not there.
It's like, you know, a void.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, it was a great time and rough, you know,
flying around the world, it takes all We were in
South Africa. I almost died in South Africa.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
What happened? Do you want to tell this? Are you
going to share that? What happened? An elephant? What happened?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
No?

Speaker 6 (27:10):
No, it was we were touring the whole country and
I got salmonilla poisoning from all wow octopus at a
five star restaurant in Caprus.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Of course it wasn't some little It doesn't.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Come on right away. Salmonilla doesn't come on for a
couple of days. So then we go off to Durban,
and then we flew off to Malamala, which was, you know,
a safari out in the middle of nowhere, in.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
The middle of the jungle.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
I'm there with my family and they're going out and
seeing you know, the elephants and the zebras and the
tigers and the lions and everything, and I'm in throwing up.
It got really bad. It was shaking everywhere, and they
rushed me to Johannesburg and I was a half.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Hour away from death.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
Goodness.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I was in the hospital for five days, just getting
back to normal.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Just from octopus at a five star restaurant. And like
I said, it wasn't.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
Like the corner kind of little gamy it did.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
It really taste funny.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
You kind of knew, oh, nothing to worry about.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
It powered through it, and you just everything was fine
until it wasn't fine.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, thank god, thank god you got the medical care
you needed because you I mean, you could have went
very differently and.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Could have gotten bad. Yes, so dying isn't good.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
No, and you wouldn't have been here today doing something
different with me exactly and more. See, that was worth it,
just the price of the mission alone, that was worth it.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
So true.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know you did cross over to the other side
of the mic though, I have to touch that you.
You appeared in TV shows like Baywatch, Larry Sanders Show,
Dave's World, and even got to give a shout out.
My personal favorite show, Growing Up Beverly Hills nine O
two and Oh You were Sharp, Sonny Sharp season nine,
you were brought back. You were you were very featured

(29:06):
in that episode. You weren't just like a like a cameo.
I mean you were like the episode.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
Yeah, it was like that, And it was like that
with Baywatch. It was sort of the Howard Stern in
a helicopter was the character. I think they wrote it
for him and he didn't want to do it, and
so they they gave it to me. But it was
great fun.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
It was.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
It was a terrific episode, as was Larry Sanders. Larry
Sanders Show I think is probably the best sitcom in
the history of television. Yes, that episode in particular was
really hilarious.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
And you also were with Audrey Meadows in Days Your
mom thinks you're gay. She thinks you're gay and you
have to convince her with.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
The you know, and I grew up watching Jackie Gleeson,
so being with her it was like, oh, royalty, Yeah, royalty,
kind of intimidating.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Can How was she? How was she to work with?

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Was everything you would want her to be? Yeah, it's
down to Earth and sweet and kind, and it was
the last show that she ever did.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Wow, to hold that in your heart, to know that
you have that, that just memory that that was the
last one. Wow, that's a beautiful She looked great. I
mean she looked beautiful and healthy. So you know, maybe
a slate or so much. You were so good that
that was it. And you know she didn't want to
do anymore after that.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, it's it.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
That was it. She's out of here.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
I've reached the pinnacle.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I have now started with Shadow Stevens. I will never
need to do another thing again. I'm out.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, it's time to leave.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
It's a very different skill set than just being behind
like a radio right now where we're talking and you know,
you have the mic and you're hitting with like headphones,
and you know it's it's acting. It is you know,
you have to be an actor on the radio. But
to go out and be naked kind of like that
in front of a.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
Case that had come you know, I'd gotten back in
the seventies, you know, I did the Steve Allen Show,
so I was used to being on camera and doing interviews.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I was also.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
Hired to be the host of the midnight special and
had a contract.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
And the day.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
Before we were to shoot the first show, they gave
me the contract and I took it into the manager
of the radio station and I was so proud. It's
like nationwide, you know, the first rock television show. And
he said, you've got to decide who puts the butter
on your bread. And I got really intimidated, and I thought, well,

(31:36):
I can't do this.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
So I turned it down.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
And that night and I called them and I said,
I've got to turn it down.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I can't do it.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
And that night they got Wolfman Jack and he stepped
in the very next day and did the first show
and then went on to do it for the next
ten years.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Right, So do you regret that decision?

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
I got to ask, you know, I have to ask.
You might say no, No, you know what, I'm happy.
I'm glad that things worked out the way they did.
But no, how could you have not you know kind
of say, I could have got bread and butter somewhere else.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
But also in later years, when I had my production company,
I did the Kentucky Fried movie and it was with
the three guys who created it and produced it, and
they and we and we wrote all the things. I
did a lot of voiceovers for them and U and
even won some awards for the advertising.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Amazing.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
And they came back to me after when they said,
we'd like to get together with you and write, you know,
our next project. We get along so well, and I
turned them down for some unthinkable reason. And a year
later they came back to me and asked if I
would produce a presentation for Paramount for the movie that
they wrote called Airplane.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
This one I have a little trouble with.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Oh wow, yeah that one.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
You know, yeah, they paid me three dollars.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Mm. Oh yeah, that's tough. Everyone kind of if you
if you have a really successful career and you've you know,
obviously you've been around for decades, you're gonna have that
one where you just kind of say, why why did
I do that? I mean, it's just human nature, I know.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Oh well, well.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
That was the one where the crap hit the fan, right,
that was the movie you know, proverbial crap hit the
fan there too, So yeah, well you had other things
to do, you And you know what, I don't feel
sorry for you because your resume. We haven't even we're
still just tip you know, the tip of the iceberg. Here,
I want to say, I had John Davidson on the
show probably about a year and a half ago, and

(33:43):
here you are, someone who also hosted Hollywood Squares, and
I thought that was kind of cool, a little serendipitous thing.
And I had both of you on the show. That's
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
It's very cool and one of the nicest people I
ever met in my life. Very nice. We had so
much fun during that show.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yes, and it was another thing that I turned down
because now because of Federated, I had a chance.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I had a three picture I had a three picture movie.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I know.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
I thought, well, maybe I'll get a chance to do movies,
and so I they I did the voiceover for the
presentation for the sizzle sell the show and it was
a big hit.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
It was the biggest head of the year.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
And he said, well, we want you to be the
voice of the show. And I went, no, I don't
I have a chance to do things, you know, visually. Yes,
And so he came back again and three times I
turned him down. Finally he said, how about we put
you in a square and you can talk about you
can do the announcing from the square and it was.
It was Rick Rosner was a producer who ironically was

(34:49):
the guy who first put me on television in Boston
years before and the one who put me on the
Steve Ballan show.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Wow, full circle moment.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Yeah, so I said, yes, that sounds great, and then
it turned out to be this magnificent hit and we
sold out Radio City Music Hall in three hours, you know,
a week's worth of shows.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
It was incredible. It was a phenomenon that just kind
of just took over, and a lot of things that
you've been attached to sort of have this theme where
they just take off. I mean they put Shadow Stephens
on it. And what billion listeners we've got, you know,
sold out.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I'll go with you like that.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
You know, I'm a hype woman too. I've got to
you know, I got to do this too. But no, seriously,
like I've I've grown up listening to you my whole life.
I've watched you on TV. So it's kind of very
cool for me and surreals, you just have you here
with me chatting.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Exceptional taste and an extraorggy too.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Okay, I'm very I have that keen ear and taste, yes,
but if you're wondering. I'm Dorean Taylor, and you're listening
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Speaker 2 (39:12):
Welcome back to the scene with Doreen. I'm your host,
Story Taylor and I have been talking with the incredibly
talented radio host Cleo, Award winning marketing guru and theater
of the mind visionary Shadow Stevens. Out of break. You
heard a teaser of shadows newest venture Mental Radio, where
Monty Python meets the Twilight Zone Shadow. Congratulations on the

(39:34):
success of Mental Radio. This is definitely not your ordinary
run of the mill podcast.

Speaker 11 (39:40):
No.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
It's been described as audio acid and spiritual crackticularly like.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I like that and it makes you keep coming back
for more.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Well, if you listen with earphones. It's highly produced, so
unlike most podcasts where you sit down and talk requires
a huge amount of production.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Oh yes, I've heard it takes.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
Takes a week or months a month and that's you know,
all of the writing, all the production, getting the other voices,
having it put together and to give you an idea
of you know, there are different short stories and adventures
and sketches and parodies, but it'll be like I have

(40:24):
these characters like Dixon taekwonder Roga, He's a looking for
trouble I have another one that's a superhero and it
is brock Stillwell.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
So it goes like this. A man falls into a
manhole in the pouring rain, and as he grabs for
a wall, a tear falls from his eyes and lands
on a slug who flicks it off onto a leech
and twitches, and it lands in the mouth of a rat,
who bears its teeth and smiles, a satisfied rat smile,
and a beam of light from the moon strikes the

(40:57):
sparkle of the rat's pointed teeth, ricocheting back into the sky,
burning a symbol on a cloud, a symbol that can
only mean one thing.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
Rocks Stillwell. It comes to the rescue. And it's a
lot of wordplay like that.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
It's what do you say, word porn.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
A word porn.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
It's sort of wordborn. I mean, you can and especially
when you deliver it the way you just did, I
can see why it's so popular. I mean, well, theater
of the mind. People don't realize because especially like I
said earlier, it's radio and how it used to be
is sort of a dying art and there is no
more of that. Using your imagination, everything is sort of
spoon fed to us now, and it's almost overload to

(41:37):
have to rely on just listening and using the beauty
of the words and just absorbing all of that in
your imagination. That's a skill that a lot of people
don't have anymore.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Well, I think that if you give it a shot,
what you might do. Just go to mentalradio dot net.
There's been like seven hundred and fifty thousand downloads. Yes,
it's got a bit of a following, and listen. Just
start in the middle chapter sixteen or fifteen or sixteen there.

(42:12):
All of the chapters are based on different emotions fear, doubt, dread, happiness, dreams, time.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Space, cool.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
The space episode Chapter sixteen is one of my favorites
and is really crazy. And if you listen with earphones,
sounds come from behind you. They move around in your head,
characters move around, the sounds move from left to right dramatically,
and it is and why I think it's been called
audio acid because it's very trippy. It's a trippy in

(42:45):
your head like old time radio, but with bet all
of the of the tools we have in the twenty
first century, but you're.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Using them in a very respectful way. You're still honoring
that the timeless tradition of radio, but bringing it in
to the modern times. And I think that's beautiful. You're
marrying the two.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
Well, it's it gives us a chance to do all
kinds of things that you don't get to hear on
radio anymore, a lot of sketch humor, like Saturday Night
Live or Muddy Python. Marilyn Croker created the names of
over five hundred drugs and on NPR an interview, they
play a game called Drugs or Cheese.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
It's hilarious?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Which was a drug? And which was a cheese?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (43:28):
Which is the cheese fund of luck in the middle
of your back?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
That needs a sab.

Speaker 8 (43:36):
That sounds fun.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I think I'm gonna steal that. I'm gonna come up
with some that's a that's.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
A Marilyn Croker has clearly smoked a lot of cigarettes.

Speaker 7 (43:44):
She said, like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Named over five hundred drugs, you know, and you can
tell by your.

Speaker 7 (43:51):
Voice where are my cigarettes?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I named my cigarettes? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, you walkouts and flatulence?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
So what inspired this though?

Speaker 8 (44:03):
In you?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I mean, I'll why now? And what just triggered all this?
And said, you don't know, I want to make mental radio?

Speaker 7 (44:11):
What just brought this out in you covid.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Oh okay, it all started with covid.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Because you had it or not kidding you started delirious.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Well, you know, people thought it was the end of
the world.

Speaker 7 (44:24):
Yes, he did, and we were in lockdown.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
And I'm sitting there thinking, we're in lockdown, and I've
got this incredible studio and i can do anything in audio,
video or art in this studio, I'm going to be
stuck here. I've got to create something funny and uplifting.
So it became the goal was the pursuit of radical optimism.
And it became audio theater with stories and parodies and

(44:48):
sketches and music, and it turned into twenty six episodes
and over twelve hours of entertainment.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Amazing that is.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
Now being developed and has been for the last year
and a half, being developed for a live theater show
at the Montepon Theater in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I've heard that that is going to be quite the spectacle.
I mean's three D and multi screens and eyes.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
It's a multi screen like we're talking about having screens
not only filling up the center stage, but left and right,
filling your whole parameter of what you can see and
on the ceiling ooh. Live live performances by voice actors,
but also live music, live singing, live band, and there

(45:31):
have been seventeen songs that have been written for the show.
So it's kind of a musical, but it's different than
a musical because the musical is generally characters break into music.

Speaker 7 (45:42):
Sure, but this is filled with music, yes.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
And all the music has to do with you know,
a live uplifting experience that is that pokes fun at
emotions like angst.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I love it, I love it.

Speaker 8 (45:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
There was one act opera years ago. I think it
was a Vile at the Court Vile. I'm not even
sure who it was, but it was the Seven Deadly Sins.
It was all in German, but it was all about
the different sins and they elaborated well, you know, with
one person, but nothing like what you're talking about. You
know that idea where you go into all the emotions
and you bring them all out. I think that's spectacular.
And where does it stand in the whole production of

(46:20):
it now? Is in development phase? Or where where does
it stand?

Speaker 6 (46:24):
It is in advanced development. The script is written, We've
already done one run through. Nowhere what we're doing it
where we've gotten to the point because all the music
is written and has rough mixes of everything, and we're
working on the final business plan and legal.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, legal, you know, the icky legal stuff, all.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
The stuff that nobody realizes has to go into the formula.
But it just drags things on and off. Every little
tea has to be crossed and I has to be
and sometimes twenty times. So yeah, unfortunately, but I see
amazing things coming from this. Now. Who wrote the music?
I'm curious, I did you wrote the music too?

Speaker 6 (47:11):
I have a writing partner named Tom Canning who is
al Jio's music director for ten or twenty years.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
And he and I have written and produced probably two
hundred pieces of music, jingles and songs, and he's just brilliant.
He's an incredible keyboardist and a ranger.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
And so I'll come to him and I'll.

Speaker 6 (47:36):
Have all of the I'll have ideas of influences of
types of music. So the music goes everywhere from a
nineteen thirties.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Swing to gospel.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Amazing, the whole.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Show ends with gospel.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
It's really big and real catchy songs like there's all
someone to blame and don't you know who I am?
And you got to keep your sense of humor when
the is hitting the fan by kids. It's pretty. It's

(48:16):
very Broadway oriented it.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I think you'll like it.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I would especially that's my background. I produced start in
several off Broadway and Broadway productions, So I it's right
up my alley. You're talking about this, and my brain
is just going right now because that's my other life.
This is like I said, I found radio later in
my life. So but yes, singing, songwriting and Broadway was
my big things.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
And this is definitely right up here.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yes, I'm gonna have to fly out and see this.
You have to keep me updated with the dates and
when things move and progress forward. I would love to
be to be there.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
I definitely will. It's even the sound we're using in
the theater, which you don't normally hear. We're really using
the spatial element of left right backward around.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
You know.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
They always talk about that Dolby sound and you hear
it at the beginning of movies where things, but it's
usually kind of subtle.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
It is.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, I'm not subtle. I don't do so.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
I don't think I would have ever used that adjective
for you, you are not subtle. That is true.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
This is like one of the things that we're doing
is is that we're going to have a trumpet player
and a guy playing buckets and a keyboard, maybe a
singer out in front and with like a New Orleans
second lined kind of music, nice dance people into the theater,
taking ten second videos of them. They get integrated, so

(49:43):
that we can incorporate people into the show, because the
idea is that everyone in the audience will become part
of a living entity that will tap dormant feel good
impulses and project them into the world, changing all life
as we know it.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
You know, I agree with you. I believe the moment
they enter the theater, even come into the theater, you
have to get them. You have to start. It's not
the show doesn't start now when the curtain goes up anymore.
There's a pre show and sometimes there's a pre pre show,
and then when they're walking out at the end, you
do something at the end. I love that the New
Orleans idea. Hopefully it's just not one of the New
Orleans funerals, the progressions we will. We don't want one

(50:23):
of them.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
What they what New Orleans funerals turn into those party
is yeah, second line Yes, and we have music that
is second line type music. And also the ending of
the show is spectacular. It's really it's like Sergeant Pepper.
It's real, big and very elevated, and then when you

(50:45):
think it's all done, it goes up another step.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Awesome. Yes, you never let them just relax. You've got
to just Yeah, you suck them in and then you
give them more. I love it.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
Oh, we're using a lot of a lot of art
and found footage and AI creations.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
You're embracing AI. You like AI.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, there's no there's no way you can't now you
know you have to.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
And what's really great are these I work for a
while to try and get this as a make it
into an animated television series, and then when AI came about,
I realized that I can create these characters that look
real but not real real, like hyper real or something.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
There's something about.

Speaker 7 (51:29):
I can tell Yeah, you can quality that.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Is like like Mad Magazine from the nineteen sixties real
you know, Mort Drucker was a great Mad Magazine artist.
It's kind of a reflection of that where it's hyper real.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Well, you are hyper really cool and I love talking
to you. I got to give you a shout out
to your daughter. You have a beautiful I mean, you
have two beautiful daughters. But Amber Stevens West, the apple
doesn't fall far from the tree. She's quite, you know,
filling your footsteps a little too there.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
She's amazing. She is My daughters are amazing. They both
are Beyonce beautiful. Oh yes, like, how did I get here?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Good DNA? Well you your wife is a model, was
a major model, So yeah, I can see how that
DNA would combine beautifully and it did.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
My younger daughter works for a money management company in
Beverly Hills. She didn't want anything to do with the business.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
But smart.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
But Amber has done you know. She was in twenty
two Jump Street and she just sold a Christmas movie
that she and her partner came up with and sold
to a network and hired the writer and in advanced
state of development.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
And she's also going to be in this show. By
the way.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
She sings a bunch of the songs. She's really a
spectacular singer. She wanted to be a singer first, and
I said to her, you're going to be in this business.
You got to learn everything.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, like you did learn that, you did it all.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
You got to learn every because every detail is important.
It's true, who's doing the sound, what is the director?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Like? What is this? You know, you may not delight.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Everything has to be considered, yes, and you have to
know what you're going after.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
It's true. And if you have a little bit of
knowledge in all of the areas, you may not be
an expert in all of them, but you have a
working knowledge and all of the different departments, especially in
this industry, you also know when you're not being screwed
and you can protect yourself and you just you just
kind of have that knowledge and it's a smart thing
to do. I love that advice because people just want
to be one thing. I want to be a singer songwriter.

(53:40):
I want to be an actor, and to find all
of the you know, just a knowledge of all of
the area, all the different areas. I believe that really
is valuable.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
Yeah, you just have to be aware of so many things.
But you know, when you're doing television for the first
time and you go, wait a minute, I'm standing hunch over,
Wait a minute, it's how I look. It's like, how
I carry myself? How am I using my hands? I look,
goofy is my arm?

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Google yep?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
And it's amazing what you can see. It's amazing when
you watch it back. Oh I do that.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Oh god, I'm trying too hard. Oh I'm doing too bad.
Oh Oh that looks bad. Oh I'm sorry. I feel
a little ashamed.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
And then you go and you learn how to say
the word s perfectly.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Thank you perfectly articulated. S.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
See you can't talk that. I think that, No, we
have to call close to this amazing interview, but you're
you're incredible. I mean I could have went like five
hours with you. This is just amazing. But I want
everyone to go to mentalradio dot net or search Mental
Radio for the free app. Also check out shadow dot
com to stay connected and to keep up to date
on everything that is Shadow. Stevens. You're awesome. I love

(54:52):
that I got to spend some time with you and
you did something different. You chose to do something different
today and talk to me, and I'm very grateful for that.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
I appreciate you more than you know.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Oh. Likewise, and anytime when you are ready and you
are ready to announce the show, I would love to
break that or be part of that, and please come
back on because I'm not blowing smoke. I would love
to come out and check it out because it is right.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Up mi Ami sounds like.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Thanks, oh, thank you so much. You have a wonderful day,
right you two? Thanks bye. Thank you to my guest today,
the wonderful Shadow Stevens. And thank you again for tuning
into the Scene with Dorin. I'm here each week across
the country bringing you the best interviews from the entertainment
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Bye.

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