KCAA: The Scene with Doreen (Tue, 29 Jul, 2025)

KCAA: The Scene with Doreen on Tue, 29 Jul, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nineteen thirty two dot or.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Coming to you from the City of Brotherly Love. It's
the scene with Doren going behind the scenes with the
biggest stars and getting to know the person behind the personality.
I'm Shadow Stevens and no, here's your host, Billboard charting

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recording artist and reigning queen on the scene, Dorene Taylor.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hey, welcome the City of Brotherly Love. Yes, right here
and outside of Philadelphia. And it is a great day
because I'm here with my incredible producer, Matt Manarica II,
Matt A Dorin.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
How's it going good?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
How's it going with you?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Good?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
I mean, kay complain.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I love that we get the City of Brotherly Love
to our introduction now with Shadow Stevens. I just still
can't believe. It's like a pinch me moment that we
have Shadow Stevens with American Top forty, the biggest thing,
like replacing Casey caseum my god. And yeah, he's doing
our introduction.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah when you were when you were listening to him
years and years ago, you probably could never imagine that
you have a show and then he would do the
intro for that show.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I know and I you have to hear it. Every week,
and it's good. If I got to hear something every
single week, I'm glad it's that.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
And you know, I gotta give props to city, your
brother they love. I could have said anything, but you
know what, I want to be proud of Philadelphia because
we have so much to be proud of right here.
Oh yeah, super Bowl champions reigning. Gotta hold on to
the title this year. I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I think they will. Yeah, they got a good shot.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Good shot is anybody I was gonna say, probably better?
So yeah, And you know, we were trying to think
of all the great things that come from Philly. Of horse,
cheese steaks, you gotta say that, Yeah, you know, pork
roll and scrap pretzels, soft pretzel water ice. Yeah, that's
another one. And you know, I think something happened here historically,

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maybe once upon a time, but who knows about that
declaration of something something something, But you know, I think
think that happened individuality, like.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
The birthplace of the country. I think, you know, something
like that.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Something on. But we do know cheese steaks though, Screw that,
let's just talk about the cheese steaks. Yeah, and bad drivers,
bad drivers on the schoogle, that's all I am.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I always thought, yeah, maybe it's just this area, but
being in a lot of different areas, it's everywhere.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
It is.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
People can't drive no matter what country you are.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
So cheese steaks. Gotta say, who do you like? Who
is your favorite? Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:41):
My favorite is Mama's Pizzeria, which is actually down the
road from the station on Belmont Avenue. Balakn.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
You're giving your shout outs here.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Oh yeah, Unfortunately, I think they're only going to be
open for like the next year.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Why what happened?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
They're going to retire. I read an article a little
while back that I think when their son graduates college,
they're going to retire, and I thought that was this year,
but I just found out, Oh that's next year.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
So got a stock up in the next year. You
better get it, bunch of coolers.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
And I don't overdo it. You're gonna have to call it, yeah,
probably will have to. But I it's like I treat
myself like I don't go there a lot because I
don't want to get tired of it.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, but but now you have to because you never
tired in a year from it and You'll be like, damn,
I wish I got tired of it.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, but yeah, I would say that that's probably my
favorite of that what I've had.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
We'll hear that on everybody check it out, and maybe
if you just bombard them with business, they won't close.
Do you ever think that will be so popular? They'll
be like, what are we doing? This is crazy?

Speaker 6 (03:40):
There.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
We can't let Matt down.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Who's Matt?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Oh? Well know now? Oh yeah, there you go, I'm Belmont,
There you go, there you go. Yes, Because you know
why I bring up Philly today because we're obviously proud
Philly people. But our guest today is also born and
raised proud Philadelphian South Philly. South Philly, moved to North Philly.
He's sort of seen all of Philly, yes, and he
is still proud. He's still claims that it is his home,

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even though he's been all over the world and living
in la and a huge rock and roll musician, He's
still you know, Philly boy, That's how people are around here.
They don't forget their roots never. So you know what,
I think we're gonna have to talk to him a
little bit about it.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, let's just get to it all right.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Today on the Scene with Dorian I sit down with
the true definition of a journey man. Vocalist and musician
singer John Carrabbi has earned a solid reputation as a
go to frontman and collaborator, Accepting an invitation to replace
Vince Neil in the platinum selling Motley Crue touring With
rat and a solid still career, John is now fronting
the musical collective supergroup The Dead Daisies, the powerhouse rock

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band celebrated for their soulful, blues infused sound and dazzling performances.
Take a listen. Oh Yes, Boom Boom Boom. Singer and

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musician John Krabbe is back running supergroup The Dead Daisies,
with her new album Looking for Trouble recently dropping and
in European tour on the Way. The Dead Daisies are
certainly heating up the summer and I am thrilled to
welcome the musical journeyman himself, Jean Kara, Hey, John, Welcome
to the scene with Doreen. Go Birds, Oh go Birds. Yeah,

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you know what I should say, Welcome home because you
are a Philly son through and through, born and raised
here in the city of brotherly love, and I do.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
I'm going to make this statement publicly.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Other than Jackie Bambam on WMMR, are my first first
interview on any sort of Philadelphia media.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
That is amazing. I'm glad I can be here first.
But I got to say that's that is a crime.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
That that is I have been.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
I have been in the business for almost forty years,
and I have never once done an interview with any
of the Philadelphia radio stations, TV anything.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well, you see my first see you how to wait?
The good things come to those who wait, And here
you are you see now?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, And now that I know your high school nickname,
I'm not going to forget about you ever.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Oh and my listeners, you're just gonna have to guess
on that one, because we're not gonna say that's my
little secret now with John and we're gonna we're gonna
keep that between us. We've bonded over here. Ahah Yeah.
Well let's get to this because now I'm a little
like blushed and I'm matching my shirt pretty soon here.
So you seem to share the similar backstory with many

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of my musical guests. Your love of music started by,
of course, seeing the Beatles on TV.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yes, I grew up in well, I was born in
South Philadelphia and my family moved up to North Philly,
and I just remember as a kid seeing some sort
of I got into them a little late, so he's
probably eight or eight, nine years old, seventy eight whatever

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in that ballpark and they did some sort of retrospect
on the old.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
Ed Sullivan show that used to be on I believe
on Sunday, and they.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Kind of did a you know, their first Trip, which
I was too young to remember, uh there, but they
did like a few songs from their first trip, and
they then they played something like uh, Hello, Goodbye and
that you know from the middle of their career.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
Then they played Hey Jude, and then and it must
have been around.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
The time the Beatles were splitting up, so maybe I
was a little older. So they did like this whole
retrospect thing, and I just remember seeing like this whole
transformation with the band, but you know, there was the
girl screaming in the audience and and it just fascinated me.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Oh yeah, I could see how that could fascinate.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
You, which which at my age I don't really hear
very often anymore. But whatever anyway, so it was crazy.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
For some apparent reason.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
My parents opted to get me two gifts one Chris
miss one was a microscope and the other was a
Sears silvertone acoustic guitar. And I think that the I
think the microscope is still in the box collected somewhere

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in my parents' basement. But whatever, anyway, I went for
the guitar, and you know it just started taking lessons
and just became absolutely fascinated with music.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Now, is it true that you learned how to play
guitar from a nun?

Speaker 9 (09:31):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (09:32):
God, yes, sister Charles Bronson.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Really was?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
It wasn't it a sister Clement? Was that her name?

Speaker 7 (09:41):
I don't know it was.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
I used to go to a Catholic school in North
Philly called Incarnation of Our Lord, boy Boy, and it was,
you know, you would.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
Go into the convent, uh you know, it was after schools.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
You go in.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
You pay them, like, I don't know, two dollars and
fifty cents, which basically I always used to tell my parents,
like you get what you pay for.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
So basically, basically it.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Was like a concentration camp for want to be musicians
because all she did was smack my hand with the
pointer and the yardstick for you know.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
And and the funny thing is she didn't even really play.
She played piano.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
But like I just remember, I had an old mel
Bay book which was like the instructional you know whatever book,
and it was.

Speaker 10 (10:32):
Like, okay, see how the picture is. Look how he's
holding the pick. Look Kelly's holding the guitar. Look Kelly's
sitting And so I had to like mimic these pictures.
And I was just miserable. And it was like, you know,
I'm learning Michael row your boat a sure.

Speaker 11 (10:50):
Kumbayah yeah or something yeah, yeah, you know, and it's
like meanwhile, my friends across the street are learning hey dude,
and you know, and I'm just sitting there going this sucks,
you know.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
So I, you know, I couldn't quit school. It was
only like nine, so I had to. I just I
just said, you know, I put the guitar in the closet.
And again, a friend of mine across the street, she
got a guitar much later than I did, and I
went over to her house one day and she's sitting
there playing like, uh, you know, Simon and Garfunkel songs

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and She's playing the Beatles and I'm like.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
I got like jealous, and I'm like, where are you
going to do? Like how how did you learn to
do this? Oh?

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I go to this other school in you know, up
the street on it used to be called Fifth Street,
you know, I well it still is, but it was
a music store called zaps Okay, and.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
She was taking lessons there.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
So I went up and spoke to her, her teacher,
and he just basically the first couple of lessons, he
just had me undo everything that the nun.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Had taught me and smart no.

Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah, it was like how do you hold the pick?

Speaker 5 (12:09):
And I go, well, you know, and I was holding
it like the mel Bay book and he goes, no, no, no, no, no.
When you're at home and not in front of the nun,
how do you hold the pick? And how do you
hold the guitar? So he just said, just do what
you do where you're comfortable, and I just kind of
did that and then he was like, all right, how's
that feel? And I'm like, well, obviously comfortable, so you know,

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so he just had me undo everything that she taught me,
and then you know, and then we started building from scratch.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well it worked though. Whatever that combination was, the nun,
the not none, it worked for you because that became
your fuel, that became your love. And I know you
had a tough start in the beginning. I know you
were going through your parents' divorce. You mentioned a lot
of this in your autobiography, horseshoes and hand grenades, and
you really you could have let it rip you apart,
but you didn't. You let that fuel your passionate and

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maybe a better person.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, you know, it's just I think, you know, it
wasn't easy at times, you know, but what is no,
you know, nothing nothing is easy, whether it's a relationship,
being in a band, being married, you know, getting up
and having to go to work, even if you're getting paid, well,

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there's going to be days that are you're just like,
oh my god, why did I do this? So, you know,
it is what it is, you know, and I've just
you know, at first, I used to think that it
was like it was it was aggravating that some of
the things happened to me the way that they did.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
I used to you know, I was one of those
glass half empty people for a while.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
A lot of musicians are artistic, Yeah, yeah, and it's weird.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
You have to just kind of sit there and retrain
your bro.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
You know.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
One of the things that I can say, and I'm
not blowing smoke up my own you know what, but
one of the things that most people say about me
is when they meet me, I'm just really approachable.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
Yeah yeah, and I kind of feel like I always
have been.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
But it was one of those things where I've always
had like something really great happen and then something really
not so great would happen to almost counterbalance it. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Yeah, So it just always kind of made me, I think,
even keeled.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
So it really takes a special kind of person to
make me go into like anger mode. And I'm capable,
but it's just, you know, I just I just kind
of look at things differently than maybe most I don't know,
and I have I have a lot of the trials

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of my you know, early days, you.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
Know, and we still have them, right, But I just
kind of it just kind of makes me sit.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
There and go, Okay, well, you know, I could sit
here and go, why don't I have Steven Tyler's bank
account or Vince Neil for that matter.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah that one. Yeah, Yeah, you ever seeing Martha Stewart video.
That video I laugh all the time with where they
put the subtitles up for Vince. It's a very funny thing.
For people who haven't seen it, you have to go
see it on YouTube.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
It's funny and it's you know, I sit here sometimes
and I go, you know, what does a guy have
to do? So I do still have my moments, But
then I catch myself and I go, you know what,
I'm sixty six years old. I've been doing this since
I was sixteen years old. You know, I still have

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a career. I'm still making records with the Dead Daisies.
I'm in the process to do it and a solo record.
I still get to travel all over the world and
do shows, and people are still interested in.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
What I have to sing about and say. And so
my family's healthy, you know, it's life is good, you
know what I mean. So, you know, it just depends
on how you look at it.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
But I credit a lot of the not so nice
things when I was younger to like making me look
at things a certain way.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Right. People don't realize that sometimes you have to go
through the dark to get to the light, or at
least understand or appreciate the light, because if you just
everything is great for you, you will never ever be
able to appreciate when things really are really well.

Speaker 7 (16:43):
And it's really weird. I mean even in sports, Like
I'm a huge football fan.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh yeah, my producer man here, he can talk to
you all day about that one.

Speaker 7 (16:52):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
My wife actually kids with me, and she goes, You're
You're like, you're literally one step way from like being
like Dustin Hoffman and Rainman when it comes to football.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
So it's you know, but the thing that's funny is
like even them, uh you know, a lot of those guys,
I don't know, you you hear this phrase all the
time and you don't realize it, but it's like that
that that phrase that football player say, iron sharpens iron.
So it's like that that that hard work and them

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on the sidelines throwing up in the heat in the
summer and lah, and it just makes them that much
tougher for the season, you know what I mean. So
I kind of feel like, I don't know, for not
to be weird, but I I just kind of feel
like a lot of those things that I did go through,
as traumatic as they were, when they were happening have

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made me the person that I am now.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yes, amen, I agree, I'm the same I I'm cut
from the same cloth that way. So I think anyone
who is successful has had to go through something in
their life that's sort of very lesson learning. We'll just
say that and yeah, yeah, So let's move on then,
because you've had this forty plus your career, so we
got to keep going because there's so much to touch on.

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Around nineteen eighty six, you decided to uproot your life.
You moved to the West Coast from Philly with your
band Angora. Jeene Simmons mentored you and one of my
former guests on the show, Steve I, produced your demo
that Angora was definitely poised to ascend a rock stardom.
So what happened?

Speaker 7 (18:36):
You know, Hollywood?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, that's the answer for a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
You know, I'm still friends with all of the guys.
Like one of my buddies actually lives in Philadelphia. My
old guitar player, Jimmy, he lived in Philly. The other
two guys I think still live in California. But it
was just weird, you know, like they were much younger.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
Than I was, and.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
You know, they got out, they got up in California
and we all used to party like that was the thing,
like they do a lot of these promoters.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
Would say, oh, you know, you got to sell these
tickets and.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Then give me the money before you play. So you
had that, you know, it was like a pay to
play thing. But a lot of the guys are like, listen, man,
if you want to build up following, you got to
have parties back to your apartment and you know, so
it was like it was about drinking and you know,
in some cases, you know, whatever drugs were available and like,

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you know, and it just unfortunately for those guys. A
couple of the guys just got a little too carried
away with the Hollywood lifestyle and drugs in particular. And
the thing that annoyed me was like, for example, we
had a rehearsal room and it was about I think

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it was five hundred a month, and I you know,
sat there with everybody and I said, hey, you know,
is everybody cool? Can everybody afford one hundred and twenty
five dollars a month? We're all going to chip in
for this place. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yep, and it
was weird like, so most of the time it wound

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up being the two guys that didn't have kids that
were married. I mean, the two guys that had kids
and were married were the ones that were covering for
the other two guys that weren't married and didn't have kids.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
But they always had weed.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh yeah, they had their money. Their priorities are a
little different.

Speaker 7 (20:43):
Yeah, their priorities were a little different.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
And eventually I just said, you know what, man, I
did not uproot my wife, my kids, my dogs and
drive across country and an ambulance with a U haul
trailer to come out here and babysit a bunch like
at the time, I was just like, you know, a
bunch of drug addicts.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
I came here to get a record deal.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
I want to be Steven Tyler, I want to be
Robert Plant, I want to be Alice Cooper. And so
I just said, you know what, I'm done, I'm done,
and I quit. I just said, I'll see you guys later,
I'm out.

Speaker 7 (21:22):
And it was weird.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
My manager, who I'm still with since back in those days,
this gentleman named John Greenberg. He told me about a
couple guys from band called Race X. They were looking
for a singer. I wound up hooking up with them,
and I don't think we were together eight months.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
We didn't even do a show. We literally just sat
in this room and wrote music.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
And we wound up doing a few showcases for some
record labels, and we had a couple of record deals
offered to us just on the strength of like four
five songs that we had written at that point.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
So, you know, it was, uh, it sucked that I
brought those guys.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
It was my decision to come to California. They all
kind of followed me out there, but and I felt
really bad about leaving the band after they had moved,
you know, three thousand miles away from home.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
But at this point I just sat there.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
I'm like, I feel like I'm swimming with cinderblocks tied
to my ankles.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
So I'm like, I'm done. I'm out.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
No, you made the right choice. I mean, it would
have been licener blocks. And it's funny you mentioned Stephen
Tyler choice and a lot of fans compare your vocals
to Steven Tyler. So I heard you have a quite
interesting story about meeting him and singing with him.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yeah, it was weird when we were doing the Motley record. Well,
I got to back up, like I have truly been
like a man, massive Aerosmith fan since forever. Like I
was the guy I'm gonna move because I'm I'm in
like one hundred degree weather right now.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Oh yeah, we don't want you to die on the show.
Who did not want this to be your first Silly
one and your last Philly one.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah it was great.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
He did his first Philly interview and dropped it from
heat to state heat broke.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
There you go. You finally got you know, see me.
Okay though, yeah, actually it's good. It's really good lighting.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
So I was the guy that was at the Spectrum,
you know, the night before when tickets were going to
go on sale.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
I sat. I sat at the Spectrum at five o'clock in.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
The morning and snowstorms, like just to get a ticket
to go see Aerosmith. Uh you know.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
But so I was always a fan.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
And then when I was about, I don't know, sixteen
years old, I got into an argument with my parents
and I just.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
Said, yeah, well f you guys, and I literally bought.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
A one way ticket up to Boston and I was
going to I was convinced I was going to join
Aerosmith as the second guitar player, and I was going
to get rid of that Whitford guy. You know, Let
get rid of that Brad Whitford guy, and I'll be
on the other side with Joe Perry.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
And I'm just gonna, you know. And so it was weird.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
We're doing the Mottley record nineteen ninety I guess three,
and we're at displays little Mountain studios, and the guys
played a little bit of a joke on me and
didn't tell me who the band was that was in.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
We were in Studio A, they were in Studio B.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
And they were doing some touch ups and mixing what
became their Get a Grip record, and they let me
walk into the room first. I totally interrupted Joe Perry
in the middle of the guitar solo, which he was
not happy about, and uh, you know, and it was
like the whole room went quiet, and Steven Tyler, in

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his leopard print bangle bracelets, you know, just ran across
the room doing that sound that he's notorious for.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
And he gave me a gave me a.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Hug, lifted my feet off at the ground and said,
you're the one that's getting ready to be shot out
of the cannon.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
And I was completely dumbfounded, no idea what to say.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
About a week later, I'm sitting in the lounge I
had been doing trying to do a guitar track, and
Bob didn't like the Bob Rock didn't like the sounds whatever,
so he was adjusting the mics and I went into
this lounge area and I was sitting there by myself
with an acoustic guitar, and I start going through the

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back catalog of stuff that I grew up playing, like
Over the Hills and Far Away by Zeppelin and Blackbird
by the Beatles, and then I just started playing this
song called Seasons of Wither from the second Aerosmith record,

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and right when the vocals were supposed to start, I
heard the voice and I turned around and Steven's face
was literally like two inches from MI, and he goes, yeah,
you're playing it wrong, brother, and I was just like horrified,

(26:35):
and he just jumped over the couch. He told me
the whole story of how he wrote the song, why
he wrote the song, and then we sat and played
it together.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
He taught me this weird tuning that he came up with,
and he showed me how to play.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
You could play that song the way he does it
with one finger because he's he's not a guitar player,
and he wrote the song and it's literally he played
it with one finger, and I'm like, oh my god,
that's brilliant.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
But I was so enamored with the whole situation. I
forgot the team.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I was gonna say, you probably don't remember anything.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, and it's like I still play it wrong,
so basically, but it was I was literally sitting there
when he walked away. I literally just sat there for
like days, pinching myself right, and it was it was truly,

(27:31):
that was one of.

Speaker 7 (27:31):
Those things where I just sit there like he even still.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
To this day, like I'll meet you know guys like, uh,
you know, I met the guys in Deep Purple.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
I met the guys who you know. I met David Coverdale.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
We did a tour together with him and the Dead Daisies,
White Snake Ears Back and right, and and and You're
just sitting there and you're you're having this moment where
it's like, you know, I'm sitting here talking to David Coverdale,
and then like a minute later, you go, oh my god,

(28:05):
I'm sitting here talking to David Coverdale, like the guy
that I saw on Don Kirshner's rock concert back in
nineteen seventy four, you know, like at the cow Jam,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Same with Glenn Hugh's.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
I met Glen Hughes multiple times, and you know, so
you just meet these people and you're like, oh my god, dude,
I literally bought a ticket to see you at the
Spectrum in Philadelphia, and now I'm sitting.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Here having a cup of coffee with you. I have
your phone number, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
So it's a little because as much as I've done,
I'm still I'm still like a music geek, like a fan,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (28:51):
I'm still a fan. I'm still enamored with people.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
I still get annoyed when I hear like some brilliant
lyric that I should have thought of at that.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Person, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (29:02):
Yeah, oh, you know what made them write that?

Speaker 5 (29:04):
And then it's like I want to know the history
of the songs or the artists or the album, and
you know, so I'm still a bit of a music geek.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
That makes you good though, I mean that makes you
keep striving to be better because you want to keep learning,
you want to keep evolving as a musician, and that's
why you keep reinventing. I mean, you did this, you
moved all the way out to you took a shot
West Coast. Then you know you let that go. Then
of course you know we're going to talk very briefly
because you talk to it at nauseum about your time
with Motley Crue. I'm sure you talked that to death

(29:34):
on every interview platform. But yeah, you would replaced Vince
Neil Motley Crue for what two years, and then you
turn the page again and now you're with this amazing
the Dead Daisies. I mean, it's just you keep evolving
and that's.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
What means you No.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
And it's funny though, like the universe, And this is
going to sound really corny, but I've just been one
of those guys, like a lot of people ask me it,
you know in interviews like Manure you sure have been
in a lot of different bands, But I kind of
look at each band that I've been in as a

(30:13):
hand of poker, like you get dealt cards the only
thing you can do is work hard at your craft.
But the one thing that a lot of people forget
is that there's a massive piece like luck is a
huge part of this thing that we live in, do

(30:34):
you know what I mean? And it's about being at
the right place at the right time. So you know,
I wish I was still sitting here. And I don't
mean that in the glass half empty whatever, but I
wish I was still sitting here talking about the fifteenth
or twentieth record by the Screen or you know, the

(30:57):
tenth record by Motley Crue. You know, it was like
each band that I was in, it's like I was
dealt those cards. I looked at the cards, I played them,
and it just didn't work out. So but I was
I've been fortunate to be always dealt another.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Hand, yes exactly, you know what I mean exactly.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
And it was weird, like and it's funny, like I
tell this to people all the time, like if you
work hard, believe in yourself, just keep doing what you're doing,
the universe has a way of always giving you what
you need when you need it.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
And it was like in the most.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Random times, like there was times where I was like
Oh my god, man, I don't know if I'm going
to be able to pay my bills. This was after Motley,
you know, and all of a sudden, I'd be like,
oh my god, I need like I need like four
thousand dollars by like Friday to pay my bills. And
then I would get a phone call from some record

(31:56):
label and they're like, hey, we're doing this Rod Stewart
tribute record. Could you maybe sing like Rod Stewart track,
We'll pay.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
You ten grant? And I'm like, yes, where and when?

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (32:10):
Where and when? And it's like, you know, and it
was just I just somehow keep you know, call it
whatever you want. You know, I call them blessings.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, you get these little blessings along the way, and
it's just like kind of keeps you afloat, and then
you stumble upon something like Motley Crue or you know,
now with the Dead Daisies. You know, we've been very,
very blessed to meet a gentleman like David Lowie who
started this band, and his story is just fascinating. But David,

(32:42):
you know, he's a very successful businessman that has always
been into guitar, writing songs. He loves music, but he's
been a business guy and then just on some random thing,
maybe ten fifteen years now, it's longer. It's probably like
fifteen twenty years ago. He just was walking by a

(33:04):
guitar store and saw you know, guitar in the window
that he liked.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
He went in, he bought it. He went, you know
what I'm doing? Okay, Now I'm very.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Successful, my family's very successful. I'm going to do that
other thing that I've always wanted to do. And he
put this band together and he takes.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Very good care of all of us, right, do you
know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (33:27):
So again, the universe just said, hey, just some random
clung call and it was like, hey, do you want
to go to Cuba with us and maybe do a record?
And I'm like, I didn't even know who the Dead
Daisies were when they called.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
You found out quickly, yeah, and it was weird.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
I'm like, all these guys are really cool. Yeah, So
you know, here I am, you know, twelve years later.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Mm hmmm. And I want to take a pause because
I want to talk about that. I want to turn
the page and let's talk about the Dead Days is
and everything that is going on. I'm Dorian Taylor and
you're listening to the scene with Dorian With musician and
frontman of The Dead Daz's John Carabbi, We're going to
dive into their new documentary, their album and much more.
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A sign above the entrance reads, through these doors walk
the finest musicians, songwriters, artists and producers in the world.
Even a quick glance at a list of records produced
here will prove that to be true.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
And here's some of the Billboard RAMMYSID stuff at sixty
years of recording in this building.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
Oh my god, dude, little Richard you kidding me right now?

Speaker 8 (37:11):
Yeah, he's recorded his last charting song in here, Greenwood,
Mississippi over instview.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Definitely some history in this place. I hope the mojo
in here just actually makes me a a better singer.
And hopefully my penis will grow as well.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Oh yeah, So, welcome back to the Seamers Arena, proud
part of the Beasley Media Group family. I'm your host
Mareene Taylor, and I'm chatting today with singer and musician
John Carabbi, former lead singer of Motley Crue and current
frontman of the supergroup The Dead Daisies. John, congrats on
the new The Dead Daisies album Looking for Trouble. I
love your reimagine take on so many of the classic

(37:54):
blues standards. It's truly, like you said, it's a love
letter to the blues.

Speaker 7 (37:59):
Yeah, it's well.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
First of all, I just I do I hope your
producer had his hand on the button for that last.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Okay, We're okay, we are good. I was gonna, you
know what, before we go any further, I got to
ask you, so did it?

Speaker 7 (38:16):
No, I'm still going to a kind of collegis on
no man.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Oh see, that's the scoop. That's I don't know if
it's a scoop I wanted, but that's a scoop.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
There's a there's a scoop, and and you know what,
I much prefer the innuendo fielled part of the conversation
we were having before we went on the.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, see, I know, right, I'm all, I'm all like you,
very proper and professional in my when I get into
my interview mode. But yeah, you're right.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
No, no, it's all good, all good.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Oh but yeah, congrats. It's it's an incredible, incredible album,
and I do love that you're bringing the blues back
and it's this really new, fresh kind of take on it.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
You know, it's funny, like I can honestly say that
because you know, each one of these songs that we picked,
we kind of researched it, as you see from that
video clip. We were we did a documentary while we
were doing it, but each one of these songs we

(39:16):
kind of researched and found out the history of the songs.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
The writers, yah YadA, YadA, YadA, And it just really.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Made us all.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
Very aware of the fact that a none of us
were blues officionados prior to this, none of us.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
None of us will say that we are or we were,
but it's crazy to me when you go back and
you look at the history of the blues was this
It's the only real American kind of art, musical art form.

(39:54):
It originated here. Unfortunately, back in the day, if you
look at the history of it, it was always kind
of considered an African American art form.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
It was called the Devil's music. White America was.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Not ready for this stuff at all, and thank God
for the British because it somehow made its way. The
early recordings of this stuff actually made its way over
to England via the servicemen and.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
Merchant marines.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
It made its way over to England mainly, and they
just fell in love with it. And these guys like
you know, the Stones, the Beatles, Seppelin, humble Pie, fog Hat,
all these great bands of the seventies took this music,

(40:53):
interpreted it their way, and brought it back and repackaged
it and handed it to America.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
And we ate it up.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Americans were ready for that, yeah, they were.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
And and you know, so, like normally every record that
we've ever done, we've always done a song or two
as a tribute to some of the artists we grew
up with. And if you're familiar with our back catalogs,
you know that we've done some songs like Joined Together

(41:25):
by the Who, or Fortunate Son by Credence and you know,
Midnight Moses by the sensational Alex Harvey Band and I'm
We've done songs on each each record. And while we
were doing the Light Em Up record, we went down
to Fame to do some writing and we were just

(41:45):
so enamored with the building and everything we just said, okay,
let's do a blues record. And you know, we've caught
a little flak about the songs that we chose to
do because they're they're like the gimme songs, do you
know what I mean? Like it's the obvious. But the

(42:07):
point that we were trying to make is this amazing
art form we kind of ignored it for many, many
years until the English guys got it. But what we
did is we chose songs that were introduced that introduced
us to the blues, not by the original artist, but

(42:30):
by the second wave, you know what I mean. So like,
for example, Crossroads, I grew up thinking as a young kid,
I was like, oh, that's a cream song, right, but
it wasn't. And then and then it was like later, uh,
Leonard Skinner covered it on their one More from the

(42:52):
Road record, their famous live record, and I thought they
were covering a cream.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
Song, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
And it's like, not until the age of social media
and internet and you know whatever were we able to
figure out like, oh wait, that's a guy named Robert
Johnson wrote that in like nineteen twenty seven or thirty
or whatever it was. So every one of these songs

(43:20):
are songs that we were introduced to by somebody else.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
Interesting Going Down, Going Down was. We were introduced to
that by Jeff Beck. We were introduced to Walking the
Dog Aerosmith, Little Red Rooster. David Lowe was like, we
have to do Little Red Rooster.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
He goes when I was a kid, that was the
first song that I had ever heard by the Rolling
Stones and they did a TV performance and I saw
it in Australia.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (43:57):
So he became obsessed with the Stones, thinking that that
was their song, right.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Right.

Speaker 7 (44:04):
So these are all songs that.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
We kind of got from the second wave saying, you know,
all these British cats are like, hey, you know, dumbass.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
This is this is your your homegrown art form.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Yeah, you should probably maybe listen to it and appreciate
it a little more.

Speaker 7 (44:26):
I agree, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
And so we just said you know what, let's do
a whole record and maybe maybe you know, we had
a blast doing it. We did it in this legendary studio,
and maybe you know, we can influence or or you know,

(44:50):
through our acknowledgment of these great songs and great artists,
you know, maybe we'll we'll pass the torch on and
maybe somebody at home or do their research and you know,
be enlightened as we were.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
And you know, if you're going to record a top
notch blues album like you guys did, where else would
you go but the iconic theme studios? I mean, hello, yeah, it.

Speaker 7 (45:17):
Was either that or go to England and use one
of those iconic studios.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
But no, not for a blues record. I think where
you went, you know, in Alabama. I mean that if
you're going to really reintroduce it and bring it back
in your own flavor, that was the right place at
the right time.

Speaker 7 (45:32):
Yeah, and it was.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
It was weird.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Like again, that was one of those things where we
just saw that there was a Netflix documentary excuse me,
I think they pulled it, but it was I believe
it was called The Sounds of Muscle.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Souls or oh yeah, yes, absolutely there.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
Was this whole documentary. There was multiple reasons.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
I'm going to apologize because this answer is going to
be a little bit long in the tooth. But we
saw the documentary and we said, oh man, that'd be
really cool to just go down there and do some
writing for our record. And then being in that building,
we started jamming. We started jamming some blues things, and
that's when we decided let's do a blues record as well.

Speaker 7 (46:18):
So we were kind of doing double duties.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
We were working on a regular record during the day
and then at night we would arrange and record these
tracks and lay them down.

Speaker 7 (46:30):
But the funny thing is is if you.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Watch that documentary, you'll realize that Fame was the first
studio in Muscle Shoals. They had this house band called
the Swampers. There was a guy named Jerry Wexler. He
was really tight with a lot of those guys through
Aretha Franklin and so on and so forth. And then

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a couple of the Swampers guys left and they started
a studio on the other side of town, and Jerry
Wexler was involved with them as well. That studio became
equally as famous. That's where the Rolling Stones recorded Gimmy Shelter,
Wild Horses, Bob Seeger recorded there like Rod Stewart.

Speaker 7 (47:15):
Just the list is ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
And then once again, a couple of the guys said,
you know what, let's go to Nashville, right, and they
went and they started a studio in Nashville, which our producer,
Marty Fredrickson purchased when he moved to when he moved
eventually moved to Nashville. So the last few records we've done,

(47:40):
we've been in, We've done, make some noise, burn it down,
and even finished up these two records at the third
of the three that muscle.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Should right, you're in the family.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Yeah, So we said, let's go to Muscle Shols And
it's only I mean, and I could literally get on
my motorcycle and I can be in muscle shows from
my house and you know, two.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
Hours, hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, it's close.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (48:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
So we just said, you know what, I have a
motor home. We use that as a home base. We
parked it behind the studio and I drove everybody down
the muscle shoals and we stayed there for nine days
and we just did we did this blues record in
nine days down in muscle shoals.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Wow, nine days. That's incredible. I mean, the quality is
so I mean, it's really like just amazing what you
guys could do in nine days. And you were working
simultaneously on another project too. That's multitasking in its finest.

Speaker 14 (48:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:43):
I can chew gum and walk in.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
I haven't done that yet. If you can teach me,
that would be good. I still trip all over the place.

Speaker 7 (48:52):
It's fine.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
But you know, the album debuted straight out at number
seven on the Billboard Blues Chart, which is extremely impressive.
Musical styles are ever evolving. Rock has changed, and I
mean almost every style pop has changed. The blues still
continue to survive and thrive. It may change a little bit,
it's still the blues.

Speaker 7 (49:13):
Yeah, And you know it really it really was.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
I can't say it enough. It really was enlightening and
it really was eye opening.

Speaker 7 (49:26):
Doing this.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
And to be honest with you, I hope I'm really
kind of hoping and keeping my fingers crossed.

Speaker 7 (49:35):
You know that this is only volume one, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
I hope that every time we do a record that
we could go in and do another blues record at
the same time, pick another ten songs, do our takes
on them, our versions of it, because it really was fun.
And there's so many great songs, you know, it's just
I mean, like to do this with be a no brainer.

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There's thousands of great, great lose songs, yes, that we've
probably never even heard of before.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
You know what I mean, show and you can bring
them to the masses. You can put your spin on
them and introduce them to a whole new group of
people and listeners to experience lose who maybe really haven't,
like you said, maybe thought, like you know, a certain
song they heard was the originator. It's not. And you're
you know, making everybody here for the first time maybe,
And that's very that's a that's quite a responsibility, right,

(50:33):
with great power comes great responsibility.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Well, you know when I become when I become powerful
and responsible, I'll give you a globe right now, Right now,
I'm sitting here chewing on an orange crayon.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Well, that will sum it up. Let me tell you, well,
you know what you are embarking The Dead Daisies are
going overseas and you're doing a European tour starting in August.
And that's pretty cool too, that your your message is
now going overseas and they're loving it just as much.

Speaker 7 (51:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
We we actually have been playing some of the blues
record and and and it's really funny like even in
some of the well, we weren't in Europe.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
Where now when we go back, we're going to the UK.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Oh there you go.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
Yeah, so uh, but it was funny.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
We were in some places like uh, we were in
the Czech Republic, we were in Slovakia.

Speaker 7 (51:30):
You know, and it's funny you just sit there like
I would say, hey, do you guys like the Blues
and they're like yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
And so we were doing uh, we were doing boom
boom and going down and it was crazy to me.
I'm looking around the room and these people are sitting
there singing I'm going down, down, down, and they're singing
every word like you know. It was.

Speaker 7 (51:56):
It was It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Yeah why not? And you said that, don't cheer for
you anymore? Come on, they cheer for you still, the
young girls.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Come on.

Speaker 7 (52:05):
I thought we were talking about my wife.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Oh man, you're sleeping outside tonight, aren't you.

Speaker 7 (52:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
It's like I go to my room now naked and
my wife goes, please turn the light off.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Oh wow, I'm not gonna go anywhere further with that
because I don't think I can probably top that and anyway,
So I think this means that this wonderful interview is
coming to a conclusion now. But I want everyone check
out the cigarettes.

Speaker 13 (52:37):
It's over.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Check out the Dead Daisies dot com for more info
about the band, get the new album Looking for Trouble,
and just keep connected with everything that is John Carabbi
and the Dead Daisies. I hope I did you justice,
my man. I love you are a Philly brethren to
me that you're from here, and I'm glad we could
be here first here and.

Speaker 7 (52:59):
I appreciate I really do.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
I'm I'm not kidding you when I say that, even
maybe last year, at some point we're supposed to do
Doug and I were so looking forward to it that
we were going to be on WIP like the sports radio, YadA, YadA, YadA,

(53:23):
and we're.

Speaker 7 (53:24):
Actually gonna get to be able to talk about the
Phillies and the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Oh yeah yeah, And literally twenty minutes before it happened
to cancel, and.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
I was like, well, we don't like wip here. We
like the fanatic that's a part of our family.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
Yeah, And I was like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Right now?

Speaker 7 (53:43):
Like right, you know, so you know I was bumped.
But I was just sitting there. I was looking at
the thing.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
When they sent me the info about doing this today,
I go, finally, yeah, finally, I'm finally going to be
on the air somewhere in Philadelphia, yes.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
And nationwide it's Philly and everywhere.

Speaker 14 (54:06):
Well, we don't care.

Speaker 7 (54:09):
There's anywhere else. Is there any other city on earth
that greases the lightholes?

Speaker 3 (54:14):
No, it still doesn't work. It still doesn't work.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
So it's only a Philly thing. I'm keeping it real,
you know, I'm keeping about I'm keeping.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
About the Eagles, cheesesteaks, scrapple, the diners in New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Come on, Yes, oh you are. You're through and through.
The blood is still running green in you, I can
tell yes.

Speaker 7 (54:38):
But thank you guys so much for finally picking the
phone up.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Oh my pleasure, and you're you're just a pleasure to
talk to. I had a wonderful time chatting with you,
and anytime, please come back when you do volume two
of a New Blues album, because I know you will.
I want you to come back.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
You know what, maybe just maybe we can do an
in person.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
I would love that. I absolutely okay, So you marked
that down because I'm putting it out there and it
is going to happen.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
And I will have a butter knife hand.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Call me mellow yellow will do. On that note, I
have to bid you ado, but have a wonderful tour
and good luck with the album. It's a wonderful album.

Speaker 7 (55:23):
Thank you, darling.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
You have a great one. All right, bye bye, Hey guys,
that's all the time we have for today. Thank you
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Org, ABC News Radio. I'm Brian Shook. A suspect is dead.
Two others, including a police officer are critical after a
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I never had the privilege of going to his island,
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Wall Street is closing with stocks mixed Sarah Lee Kessler.

Speaker 9 (58:56):
Reports the S and P five hundred and the Nastack
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eight hundred and thirty seven. The S and P five
hundred added a point to six three hundred and eighty nine,
but the NASTAC rose seventy points, closing a twenty one thousand,
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