KCAA: The Scene with Doreen (Tue, 19 Aug, 2025)

KCAA: The Scene with Doreen on Tue, 19 Aug, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nineteen thirty two dot org.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Coming to you from the City of Brotherly Love. It's
the scene with Doreen going behind the scenes with the
biggest stars and getting to know the person behind the personality.
I'm Shadow Stevens and no here's your host, billboard charting

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recording artist and raining queen on the scene, Dorrene Taylor.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, of course, thank you
to Shadow Stevens. Our awesome, awesome narrator for the beginning
of our show each and every week is still have
to pinch me about that. And today on the show
we have a special spotlight show. We've got two incredible
spotlight artists coming up. We've got Steve Postel and the
wonderful Cheero Depode you. But before we get all that,

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I want to welcome my incredible producer, Matt minaric Ii.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Matt, Hey, Dorian, how you doing good?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I finally did the right order of how I've wanted
to do this intro all along, and I just you know,
I've never done it right. It's always been like out
of order, out of sequence, and it's never quite made sense.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
As the first time it is it.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Is, And I said, just in time for me to
take a break.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad though. I'm glad you're taking a break.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Though I haven't had a vacation, and I joke about
it now. I can't usually use this anymore because this
is like my little go to thing. I haven't had
a real vacation since before COVID.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Wow, that's a long time. Where are you going home?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
So it's not really a vacation, all.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Right, I'm going I'm going to vacation to Buffalo, New York.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Buffalo, New York, maybe Niagara Falls. Remember that used to
be the honeymoon capital of the world, Superman, you know,
the whole that was like real clothes, Like they're literally
like next to each other. It's very very close. I'm
not technically buff from the Buffalo area where I grew up.
I grew up more of in a farm town called
all In New York, and so I'm sort of about

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thirty minutes outside Buffalo. But yeah, we're all about the same.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah. I mean that's when you know people always you say, oh,
where are you from out in the Philadelphia area. Yes,
I think people say, oh, you're from outside of whatever
I say it to you, whatever you think.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I live South Jersey. But when I'm away from this area,
I will say, oh, Philadelphia, because I'm gonna say South Jersey.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
They're gonna be like, yeah, I grew up in Pottstown
and nobody if you're not from this area, you don't know.
So I just say, like outside of Philadelphia whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's true. And sometimes you know, like when
I'm out and about, like they you say South Jersey
immediately or New Jersey. They still think of that stupid
reality show.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
That Jersey Shore, like the whole state is the Jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Unfortunately, all the rest of the country think that we
were like snooky over in Jersey and it's so not
me because I guess maybe I wasn't born there. But yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
A different jury. That's like more Northern Jersey, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's a Jersey thing.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, there's two different New Jerseys.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
There's South Central.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Eagles New Jersey and Giants New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
And then you have all the scumbag cowboys fans like
mixed in somewhere.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
They're everywhere. They are like invading. They're like little parasites
that pop up all over the area. Yeah, you see them,
You get to see the star occasionally and people still
wear it throw up. Do you remember back in the day.
We had somebody working on our crew a long time
ago that came in and didn't it was the first
time working with us. And what was he wearing.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
He was wearing a Cowboys had.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I thought you were going to kill him with the logo.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Upside down, like there, I guess there was.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
A Well that's the only way you should wear it.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
We should wear it.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
He might have had something on it, you know, could
have been little tattoo. He really liked Ellis, so you know,
could have been. But I was surprised because I was like,
I saw it walk through the door and I'm like,
oh God, oh God, don't let mat see it. And
I'm like, how are you not going to see it?
We're like two feet apart from each other air.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
If you want to be a Cowboys fan, I mean,
I mean, if I had to do some work in Dallas,
I share as hell would wear Eagle stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
You gotta gotta know your place of where you are.
Like if I'm going out of town and I like
I used to go to the garden to watch the
Sabers play, I'm not wearing Sabers colors. I'm not I'm
not going to do it just because I wear black
usually and that way. No, I'm neutral. Nobody knows what
my affiliation except when I stand up and chair. But
unfortunately Buffalo teams, we don't cheer very often.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
So it's goods.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh, this is the year, This is the year. Maybe
maybe maybe I said, if they acquired enough in the
off season to help Josh Allen, then yes, this.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Is lost a lot last year and did much better
than I thought, so who knows.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Got to cut that weight sometimes sometimes those those players
are just bringing you down. You gotta gotta invest where
you need it. And I'm sounding like a sports person.
I can't do that.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
You're a fan. I know you're a fan.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I have a working knowledge of sports and I've been
growing up all my life. So it's it's nice. And
then when I go home, I have to refresh because
you know, in Buffalo it's all people talk about, even
in the off season, so I got to make sure
I get back into the stats and everything like that.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, I mean we're getting there.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
We're all in there.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
And speaking of the Bills, I they're on hard knocks.
What do you mean in every year the NFL, they
follow around a team. Oh the show, the show.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's who they picked this year.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
This Yeah, and actually I know this will air two
days after it happens, but today it is the first
episode on HBO.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Well there you go, shout out to the bills and
we can see the behind the scenes of the behind
the scene of the scene with Dorian. Oh my god.
That's but yeah, I'm just so excited that we're going
to be on a little bit of vacation for a
couple of weeks. But we're gonna be playing good repeats,
some of the best of I don't know who yet,
but we're gonna be playing some good shows. Got to
stay tuned if you do, because we never know around here.

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We like to mix it up, that's right, And like
today we're mixing it up. Instead of having our main
guests that we normally have, we're going to be highlighting
two equal opportunity awesome people for the spotlight.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Spot two people in the spotlight.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
So I've never done this before, so let's see how
this works.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
All right, let's go, all right.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
This is Radio.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Spotlight.

Speaker 7 (06:31):
Get it stuck out in all this bad all.

Speaker 8 (06:46):
The weather, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
This Bad.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
With Oh Yes, this Week's the Scene with Dorrin Spotlight
Guest's musical journey has taken him from music conservatory to
Broadway shows, to composing music for film, television and ballet,
to rock and roll tours and years as a studio musician, singer, songwriter,

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guitarist and producer. Steve Postel has been a fixture in
the music scene for multiple decades and has performed and
collaborated with some of the biggest names in the industry
like David Crosby, Glenn Phillips, Danny Korchmark, Kenny Loggin's justin
name a few. Steve just released his newest album, Walking
Through the Blues, a beautifully rich musical tapestry consisting of

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twelve new songs. Working with some of the best musicians
in the world, Steve brings musicianship and integrity to the
craft of storytelling through song. So, without further ado, let's
shine today's spotlight on singer, songwriter, musician and producer extraordinary
Steve Postel. Hay, Steve, Hey, there, Hi good, how are

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you doing good?

Speaker 8 (08:06):
Just got back off tour and back to it.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I love it. I have been wanting to talk to
you for so long, and I'm so glad to finally connected. Likewise, Yeah, so,
first of all, congrats on the release of your new album,
Walking Through These Blues. Thank you for creating honest, real
music with real musicians while staying true to your musical roots.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
Well that's the idea for me anyway.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, so what inspired this new album? I mean, you've
been working consistently through the industry for so many years,
but what inspired this album?

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Right now?

Speaker 8 (08:40):
It's for me. It's more like a gathering of whatever
material I have, and at a certain point I usually
go I have ten or I have fourteen new songs,
it's time to make a record. So the music kind
of dictates me when it's time to start recording it.
Sometimes I have a label like now, sometimes I have

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but if I have that many songs that are I
feel worthy of being in a nice compilation, I'll get
together in my studio. Fortunately, I have a studio as
you can.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
See, yes beautiful, so.

Speaker 8 (09:14):
I can record any time I want. So the records
happen when when I have time in between other projects
and when I have enough songs.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Really awesome, and I love the idea that you are
big about letting the song dictate just the arrangement or
dictate the musicians that are on it. You let the
song speak for itself and live as its own entity.
And I find that beautiful and quite rare nowadays.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
Well, I think nowadays that a lot of music is
sort of paint by numbers and they piece together sounds
and different it's not as organic. The tradition that I
come from is very much about the muse. You know,
not to sound corny, but you know, it's being inspired

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by something and letting that inspiration lead the lead the way,
and that that's how I write, and it's how I
record as well.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 9 (10:12):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Like everybody wants to throw everything into a song, it's like,
let's see how much we can put into the production
of a song. Let's put this and you strategically will
hold back things just to let it breathe and to speak,
and you find the beauty of the different parts. And
that again, because you're also a producer, that's a great
talent to know when to throw it all in the
kitchen sink and when to just not.

Speaker 8 (10:35):
I've done it both ways. I produced a wonderful record
by an artist named Dan Navarro, and our approach, because
we had plenty of time, there was no deadline, was
to record as many ideas as we It took a
long time to do it this way, and it's I
wouldn't necessarily recommend it, but we recorded everything and then

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we took a scalpel and got rid of this, got
rid of that, got So that's a different way to paint.
The painting is to throw all the colors on and
then scrape some off.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, is that harder to do because sometimes you get
something in your ear you're so used to it, and
then you got to say, well, now I got to
extract a little bit of the rhythm section here. I've
got to extract maybe the acoustic here. What is that
harder to do than the layer?

Speaker 8 (11:21):
Yeah, definitely harder to do it that way. And I
just did it. Dan and I just built the studio
and we just were having fun recording and we just
went with that. Now, generally I don't do that. There's
still a lot of surgery that happens at the end,
even if you're methodical about it. But I like to

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listen to what I have and then build, like I'm
missing on the second chorus, I'm just missing a texture
and then finding what that texture is and so on.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Do you find it difficult to produce your own I
know you've produced other people's like Danny Korchmar you co
produced his album. Do you find it difficult when it's
your own, because sometimes it's hard to, you know, see
ourselves what we need to see sometimes. Do you bring
in other ears or is it just something Easier're like, yeah,
I kind of know what's supposed to be in the sauce.

Speaker 8 (12:10):
I've gotten really used to doing it, to the point
one of my records, I did hire a producer engineer,
and after a week, we both realized it was just
taking longer for me to explain what I wanted to do.
And I find that I can. I've done it so
much and I've had a studio for so many years

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that I can sort of compartmentalize and the producer part
of my brain and the artist part of my brain,
the guitarist part of my brain, and I can. I
can sort of zoom out as the producer and the
guitar player then doesn't get mad at me if I
get rid of the part.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
You know, that's true. Yeah, because yeah, I can understand
that now.

Speaker 8 (12:53):
I mean this record, for example, I had I had
talked to one of them since Sally passed away, one
of the great producer mixers of all time at that
named Ed Sharney about mixing the record, and he came
met me and listened to stuff, and he said, you know,
because this record took a long time to make because
of COVID and some other things, and there was an

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immediate family record in the middle. He said, you know
this music so well, he said, no, one's gonna said,
I think you should. He was learning to say, I
think you should mix it because you are so intimate
with every note and every choice. And I think in
the end, although I got help at the end in
terms of playing it for some people, including him and

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saying what do you hear? But I think it was
the right choice.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Absolutely. It's a beautiful project, and the overall message of
the album is really I love it. It's about walking
through the hardships in life and coming out on the
other side stronger. For it. Is that a feeling that
sort of you've always had in your life, or is
it something that maybe has evolved as you've gotten older.

Speaker 8 (13:56):
It's been somewhat of a theme. But yes, as I've definitely,
as I've gotten older and done this more and more
and just lived more and more, it's it's definitely become
an important I mean you either you either close your
eyes to that life can be a little difficult, which
is not a great choice, or you suffer with it,

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which is not a great choice, or you learn how
to navigate it. And to me, that's the best option.
And so that just that theme sneaks into my work.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I've noticed there is like a recurring theme in a
lot of your music with that message attached to it.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Yeah, I think so. I think there's some I did
a lot of studying of philosophies like Buddhism, and it's
part of that and a lot of philosophies. So it's
it's bound to you know what you think about and
how you approach life. If you're not a songwriter, it's
going to sneak in there.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Oh you're men, and you are. And networking is very
essential in the music industry, but my god, the list
of friends that you can draw from to create with you,
especially on this new album, it's unbelievable. It's like a
who's whose list. It's amazing.

Speaker 8 (15:09):
Well, because I wear a number of hats. You know,
I'm I'm an artist, the artist guy, but I'm also
a producer and I'm also a studio musician. Over the years,
I've just interacted with so many fantastic people who have
become my friends and comrades in this crazy life. So
it's given me the opportunity to pick up the phone

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and call a lot of different, really brilliant collaborators.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh absolutely, well, you know you've got to say something
that speaks. It's a testament to you because there are
a lot of people who work with a lot of
different people. They collaborate, but if they pick up the
phone and want to get something out of them in
the future, a lot of people don't answer that call
because they just don't want to work with them again.
And the fact that these amazing people keep coming back,
Like I have to mention, you were preparing a tour
with one of your really dear friends, David Crosby before

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his untimely pass. I mean, it's hard to lose a friend,
but even in that way, it had to be extra
difficult for you.

Speaker 8 (16:06):
It was extra difficult, as you say, because I lost
a friend who had known for almost thirty years. But
I also we were collaborating on we were preparing a tour.
My whole vision of the next couple of years of
my life was built around David having taught me these

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guitar parts because his hands were kind of failing, and
spending all these months learning how to play his music.
And so it was shocking because it was so sudden,
and it really put me in a bit of a
tailspin because I lost his friend, but I also lost
the sort of dream of that we were going to

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go do this thing together.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, and you're just continuing that legacy though. I just
saw recently. I think today you just posted something on
Facebook you were going to be doing a tribute to David.

Speaker 8 (17:01):
Well, that's another one we just finished. I just finished
a tour called Our House, which was which is a
music of CSNY. We just played seventeen cities, I think,
and which that came out of really the band that
you know, the David and his son James Raymond I
put together. And then when he passed and we didn't

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get to do the concert, we were approached, you know,
do you want to take this since you know the music? Well,
and you're intimate with it, do you want to take
it on the road. The next thing coming up is
a There's a label called Santa Barbara Records, which pretty
much focuses on artists in and around that area, some
really talented young people, not all young, but most of

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them are. And since David lived up there, they're doing
a retrospective concert of his music with an orchestra and
James Raymond, his son, is involved, and I'm involved in it.
Should be should be a very magical night.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I think absolutely. It's like I said, people don't realize,
especially in the music industry, it's not that you just
are bandmates. A lot of times you become here on
the road together. You spend so much time creating together.
It's actually family. You're losing family members. You bond in
a way that I don't I've never seen in any

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other Like you know, stockbrokers, they work, and I'm sure
they have friendships and stuff, but musicians have this lifelong
bond that they've created musical magic together. And I'm so
happy that you're continuing that legacy for him.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
Yeah, I feel a little bit responsible like he in
a way I learned very specifically his his guitar tunings
and guitar patterns and how he played the songs. And
I'm not saying that other people don't play his songs
and play them well, but he taught me how to
do how to play them like he did. And I

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feel like it's a nice thing to be able to
do that Dan, to do that.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, most definitely. In speaking of family, I was lucky
enough to meet you after I had the wonderful Danny
Tedesco on the show a few years ago. Danny created
for those that don't know, the highly acclaimed documentary The
Immediate Family, and you were the newest inductee into that family.
You created with great like Danny Korchmar Wattie, Walk, Tel,

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Russ Conkle. You know another guest on the show, Leland
scar He was on the show. So how was it?
You know, this is a solid knit group and in
Walk Steve post Out. I mean, how were you were
you embraced into the media family right away? Were you
like the second cousin twice removed? I mean, how was
it coming into that group of people?

Speaker 8 (19:38):
Well? I knew first of all, I knew some of
them for like Leland and I had been working together
for years records of mine before, and Waddy played on
a record of mine. But Danny and I were working
together quite a bit. So even though I was the
youngest guy in the band, I was the one with
Danny who start did the pre production for the first record,

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and so I was kind of in there from the
inception of it. So I could be the young guy.
But I it wasn't like I came in after they
had wonderful but the band, I certainly came in after
fifty years of friendship that they.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
All had wonderful. Yeah, you know the media family, they,
like you said, they're still putting out great music. They
just released Skin in the Game. That was a new
album they just dropped, and you were responsible. You were
on that and you worked very closely on that record.

Speaker 8 (20:26):
Well, because again because the studio here, the way we
made our records with the media families, Jackson Brown is
a friend of all of ours, would let us go
into his studio and do the basic tracks and then
we would come back here and spend months here adding
and doing vocals and guitars and overdubs and mixing and
so on. So the process was very organic and white

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and everyone had their zone and Whitie and I worked
with this guy Nico Bullause who's a great mixer to
mix the records. And we have another one coming up.
We've got one in the can, Awesome, which I'm gonna
start to work on next month. It's all recorded and
it's going to be a really cool record because it's
it's all the hit songs that the guys have that

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everyone's been involved with, either as a writer or a
producer or whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, now you mentioned you guys. I mean it's been
like fifty years that some of you have known each
other and worked together. Is that a positive sometimes when
you're all working on a new project, because there's like
something that they say, what the familiarity breeds contempt? And
sometimes when you know each other too well, it's sometimes
you butt heads or it sort of creates problems. Whereas

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and just a bunch of people who come into a
new project, they may not know each other that well,
how do you feel that that process goes working with
somebody new versus somebody like fifty years?

Speaker 8 (21:43):
Well, yeah, those some few of those guys have known
each other and work together for fifty years. I've known
twenty years. It does obviously make it more comfortable to
butt heads because you your family, you know, like any family,
you're not you're not walking on tiptoes, which but that's
a good thing. And in the end, there's just so

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much love and camaraderie that I mean, nothing can really
replace that. And music, you know, music has that really
almost more than you mentioned Stockbroker's almost more than anything,
including other arts, because it's not a solo adventure. We
are We're not only dependent on each other when we're
playing with other in a band or a band situation,
but when we're touring, we're living together. I mean the

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tour I just did, we had meals and walks and
hikes and swimming and you know, in between and driving
six hours to the next gig, and you know, there's
a lot of shared experience and shared time and if
you know, look, obviously it's it's notorious how many bands
and artists don't get along with the Everly Brothers and

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hall Notes and you know, all these different classic stories.
But we're a tighter knit group, as is the group
I just came out of. Just now.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, I think honestly, because you guys came from a
kind of this core like in the case of the
Media Family, you guys were recession musicians. I mean you played,
You're backing artists who played on on liner notes of
almost every amazing artist, Carol King, James Taylor, like you said,
Jackson Brown, I mean, these incredible acts. So you sort
of kind of learned to sort of know when the

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ego can play and when the ego couldn't play. So
it's a beautiful balance when you are working on a
project together when to shine and when to kind of
step back and say, you know, I'm gonna listen to that.
I'm sort of gonna, you know, understand that. And I
think that maybe helped well.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
It does the barometer for what is a good studio
musician or a good person to put on your record
of your song probably the smallest part of it. Everyone
can play. There's a lot of great players, but it's
someone whose goal from the moment they walk in the
room is can I make this song better? Period? Is

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there anything I can add or subtract that I feel
with my years of experience might make this song more powerful?
That's it. If that's the goal and you all have
the same goal, then that's what you're going to eventually
arrive at.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Now Walking through the Blues, it's just recently released. You
just came back from the first leg of your tour,
and I'm sure there's going to be many more dates
coming up. These beautiful twelve songs that you've created with
something like I said, some of these amazing David Crosby,
Glenn Phillips, I mean incredible people came onto this project.
At the end of the day, when you have the
listener who just goes home, puts headphones on and absorbs

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it all from beginning to end, what do you want
them to take away from the new album.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
Well, ultimately, it's a personal experience, so whatever your personal
reaction is. But you know, any I think anybody who
makes art, I would like people to have an experience,
feel something, feel moved in some way, and relate their
own lives to the stories musically and lyrically that are

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in the song, so that that so that means something
to them. That's that's the goal, and that's why we
do it.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
And do you have a favorite track? I know it's
like children, but I gotta ask, is there one that
you said, like, I can I can take them all,
but that's the one that's that's Steve Possel, that's my
name on that.

Speaker 8 (25:19):
Well, I think the most fun. I think that Bad
Weathers are really fun.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh yeah, it's sexy. It's a good tune.

Speaker 8 (25:26):
Yeah, and Tony Furtado great blue grass players on it
and playing dobro. But I think the one that there's
a song called when the Lights Go Out, the one
that David Crosby's on, Yes, and also Alfonso Johnson, who's
a brilliant bass player, was in Weather Report and Santana
for years. That's got a great, great guitar put in

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Marshall and that's just got a lot of elements to
me that are very refined musically, arrangement wise lyrically. So
I guess if I had to listen, if I had
to listen to one song over and over again, it
might be it might be uh, when the Lights go Out?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
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Speaker 11 (29:58):
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Speaker 8 (30:03):
But it wasn't.

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Oh yes, my spotlight guest today on the Scene with
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silver screen. Actor director and screenwriter Chierdo de Paggio's ancestry
can be traced back to the same street in one
Italian town, but the former organized crime member turned Hollywood
hero is now turning his life lessons into mob culture

(30:51):
entertainment in the new movie Silent Partners, available now on
Amazon Prime and all major streaming platforms. So please, let's
welcome producer and screenwriter Chierto de Pago into this week Spotlight.
Hi Tchierto, Hello, doing wonderful and you are in the
beautiful city of Boca Raton near Miami. I'd my favorite

(31:12):
place on earth.

Speaker 9 (31:13):
Yeah mine too?

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Oh yes, well that's why you picked it to live there?

Speaker 8 (31:17):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Well, you know a lot of people in Hollywood they
just tell the stories, but you you actually lived the stories.
You were at one point entrenched in Florida's organized crime
network and served nineteen years in prison for racketeering. But
after you were released, you changed your life and you
started using those experiences to shape a film and television career.

(31:41):
And what was the turning point for you? What made
you realize that, Hey, this isn't a path I want
to go down anymore. I want to take this and
make art out of my downtime, my time that I'm
maybe I just want to change things and maybe spread
that message elsewhere. What changed in your life that made
you think of that?

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (31:58):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (31:59):
First to correct the opening where organized crime member, Yeah,
I was knee deep in it and affiliated with it,
but I was never a maid guy.

Speaker 9 (32:07):
I just want to make sure, that's understood.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
But I was heavily entrenched with the players involved, you know,
some relatives and stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (32:16):
So yeah, I have an.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Innate knowledge of how things operated down here. A lot
of times I orchestrated them and helped them move along
and make a lot of money for a lot of people.
And the reality of it is is that if I
had it to do all over again, I definitely would
have chose a different career path.

Speaker 9 (32:33):
You know, at the time, it was seductive. It was
the eighties. You felt like, you know, that was the thing.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
But nothing is worth you know, losing that amount of
time with my children and you know, family and stuff
like that. So, needless to say, when you get out
from doing something like that, in one you got to
figure out how you can.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
Make some money again to live the type of lifestyle
that you're used to living.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
And that's just aren't the way to go. I mean,
there's no street life anymore. I mean people who claim
that there is, they're full of it. Because you're either
going to end up dead or in jail, and percent
of the time it's jail, you know, So you have
to figure out something else.

Speaker 9 (33:14):
And you know, I'm a pretty creative person.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
So I started thinking, why not put this put some
of these stories and stuff into effect, and Silent Partners
came about.

Speaker 9 (33:26):
Like that with my co creative, dave A Cavetti.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
His dad was the captain of the Gambino family down
here in South Florida for over forty years, Fat dave
A Caavetti. So we, you know, got together, me and
him and said, why don't we pull this one story
out of the fabric of that universe and bring it
to light. Because the insurance scam that they ran, nobody
ever got caught and you know, stuff like that, So

(33:50):
we changed the name and stuff like that. You know,
it's Ganetti not Icivetti for the movie and stuff like that.
But you know, the basis of the story around the
insurance scam is all, you know, pretty accurate of what
went on to our knowledge. And yeah, and with mob King,
you know, I just pretty much take the nuances of
South Florida. South Flora it was different when it came

(34:12):
to organized crime. It was known as what it's called
an open territory, so everybody was operating down here, but
you had to deal with a lot of other entities.
You know, there were a lot of latins and you know,
different types of groups that you had to deal with,
and you had to have the ability to move within
those circles. And I was just really good at that,
and I was really good at making money for people,

(34:33):
and that, you know, will always put you at a
higher you know, glean in the eye of people when
you're filling their pockets with.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Some gasun amen.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
You know that worked out pretty pretty good for everybody
for a short period of time to the you know,
shoe drops.

Speaker 9 (34:48):
But you know that was then.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
This is now, so I get out and I figure,
let me just put my creative juices towards making.

Speaker 9 (34:57):
Movies and projects and turns out them pretty good.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Oh yes, you are with that for a while. Yeah,
you know many years. The mob culture is hot in Hollywood,
in the pop culture world. I mean there's movies, TV,
reality series. People can't get enough of that world. What
do you think makes it so attractive to the normal
person like myself or my producer Matt What is so

(35:24):
sexy about the mob world?

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Well, it's simple, really, people get to live vicariously through
the lens of someone doing something that.

Speaker 9 (35:35):
They'll never do.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
I mean, fortunately, the majority of the population will never
go to prison. The majority of population will never enter
the rackets, and you know all of that stuff that
goes on, and you know they live vicariously through that,
and you know they go to work on Monday morning
and you know they quote the lines from the movies.

Speaker 9 (35:55):
You know, yeah, say hello out to my little friend.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yes, whatever else right, Oh yes, make them an offer
you can't refuse. Oh there's so many. There's so many.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
So they live vicariously through these characters, and you know,
they get to be a bad guy.

Speaker 9 (36:09):
For a couple of hours. So you know, it's it's
pretty good.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
I think what is really helping me is from what
I'm told from people in the industry, is that you know,
I get the beats right, you know, as far as
how the things are supposed to move and whatnot. And
it's not you know, your stereotypical you know, everybody give
my money and break your legs type stuff. You know.
So I think I found a niche on you know,

(36:34):
how I saw it through my eyes and how you
know I translate that to film with my team, and
you know that's one aspect of it. I mean I've
done two mob movies, but you know, we create a
lot of other stuff, you know, moving forward, so you
know that's going to be you know what happens.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Mm hmm. Well, I do want to say congrats on
the film Silent Partners. It's it's hot and if Ronnie Marmo,
Joseph Tonofrio, James Russo, you got Gary Pastor, you know,
they all star with you in this. That's quite a cast.
That's a nice lineup.

Speaker 9 (37:10):
Yeah, those guys have been in some heavy duty movies,
you know.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
You know, has played Maddie, the Horse and the Duce
on HBO, James Russo of course, Donny Brasco. We have
Nick Bollonga in there as well. He's the guy that
won the Academy Award for a Green Book. Ronnie of course,
you know, he does his really good stuff, Lenny Bruce
and he's a great actor.

Speaker 9 (37:31):
And Joseph Sanafrio, you know.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
You don't have to bring up what he's done, because
he's done you know, all those old classics, you know,
the Bronx Tail, you know, he played Slick and good Fellas.

Speaker 9 (37:42):
You know, so you know he's he's built up his resume.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
And yeah, we you know, we have Anthony Coronan there
who played Frank Urbino of Oz. He plays a very
prominent role in this Coofax, his kind of goofy character
against my hardlines. You know, Hitman plays great and it
really to me, you know, shows the nuances of that
world and how they people operate within them. So yeah,

(38:07):
I mean Gary's performance is great as Boss, you know,
as Fat Dave, and then James.

Speaker 9 (38:13):
Russo as Frankie Kuttz. So it just worked out really good.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
We got a lot of strong performances from females, you know,
Carmel Borderelli specifically in London Grace.

Speaker 9 (38:25):
She really did a great part there with the abuse nature,
so we could show.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Why people don't like that too much, you know, handle
that with her husband, so you know, we have to
tune in to see what happened there. But it's you know, yeah,
it was a lot of fun and it came out better.

Speaker 9 (38:41):
Than I possibly could have imagined.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
And thankfully, you know, people tend to want to dig
into indie filmmakers because of budgets and stuff like that.
But we've got every critical critic that has watched our
movie and gave it a rady. I think there's eight
of them now on IMDb. You know, which is a
lot for independent film. They're all good, you know, and
going to reviews. So I was very happy to see

(39:04):
that for everybody who's involved in the movie, because a
lot of people, you know, worked with.

Speaker 9 (39:09):
Me without really having I didn't really have a name.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
I shot a lot of this movie six years ago,
you know, so I had it as a pilot. And
it's kind of hard to break out in this industry
when you're just a guy in Miami making stuff and
you know, everything circulates around Hollywood and stuff like that and.

Speaker 9 (39:25):
Nepotism and who you know and all this, and so
you know, I'm.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Kind of pushing that ceiling a little higher and higher
and guys you know, coming to the table and helping me,
these renowned actors and stuff like that. So you know,
I'm a firm believer if you're meant to be somewhere,
you'll get there, you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (39:42):
So we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Oh yeah, And I want to mention for everyone listening
and watching, you're not just starring in the movie. You
are behind the camera as well. You are part of
making the casting decisions, you're producing, you're putting this all together.
So you have her hands in all of it, so
it really is your vision and I'm so happy that
it came out so well for you.

Speaker 9 (40:03):
Yeah, I mean I have a great team, you know.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
My my main two guys on the on the back
end of stuff is George Joksianes, he's my director and
co writer, and James Bishop, who's.

Speaker 9 (40:15):
My co writer. So we're like the little nucleus of guys.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
That come up and create things, you know, together, and
it's real important to have the type of relationship that
we have. I am a strong producer. I cast everyone
in Mob King and everybody in Silent Partners. A couple
of actors came with the recommendation from Gary Pat's story,
so I'm thankful for that.

Speaker 9 (40:36):
But in general, yeah, I kind of wear the hats.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
You know. I did all the art direction, found all
the eighties clothing and props and all of that. But
if you really want to be a hustler and show
people what you're capable of doing as a as a
filmmaker or producer or whatever, you need to be able
to do that. In my opinion, so to me, it's
kind of easy. But you know, I've seen where other
people get bogged down by it.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Mm hmm, well I wanted also congrats that you just
had to sold out premiere just recently in Miami at
there there what was it the seventy four? What was
the year. It's like there they're film festival forty second.
I'm jumping way, I'm aging now. This is like the
opposite of what Hollywood wants to do. We're sopposed to
cut years back. But no, congrats sold out premiere. That's

(41:19):
got to be pretty fulfilling for you after shooting for
six years and getting this life out there for you,
this this whole message, that's got to feel good.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
Actually, what we did is we started shooting in six
years ago, like I said, and then COVID.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Hit and oh yeah, oh yeah, thing was shut.

Speaker 9 (41:34):
Down for two years.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
And then I was like, you know what, I need
to just make this into a film, which was no
easy task because you know, you have to hope that
everybody still looks the same yes, you know, and create
a story.

Speaker 9 (41:45):
That actually runs.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Because when you have a TV pilot, there's a lot
of characters in Silent Partners, and it was done like
that because it was a pilot. You have to get
those those roles time to grow on screen over the
course of a season or two, right, So then we
had to turn around and you got to make everything
go from start to finish and put the whole story
in there.

Speaker 9 (42:03):
So, you know, it was a real risk. We didn't
know whether we were gonna pull it off or not.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
So just the fact that we did is tremendous, and
the fact that it's well received is even better.

Speaker 9 (42:13):
But yeah, so you know, that's how it just worked out.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
I guess it was just meant to be because everything
that could could go wrong didn't, and everything that went
right went.

Speaker 9 (42:25):
Better than right, you know. So it was just a
real blessing to have it turn out the way that
it did.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Absolutely, and the blessings, yeah, well, the blessings keep coming
for you.

Speaker 9 (42:35):
Yeah. The Miami Film Festival is a big deal.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
I got credit Breaking Glass for that because they had
already had all their films selected months in advance, and
Breaking Glass got them to take a look at our
film being filmed in Miami and stuff, and they added
us to the opening night and gave us the Kubek
Theater in which to do a co opening night. And
if you know about film festivals and something as prominent
as the Miami Film Festival. The opening night film and

(43:00):
the closing night films are a real big deal. So
that was a big feather in our hat. And to
be able to open sold out the Miami Film Festival
and then, you know, three weeks later, get released and
it's doing very well.

Speaker 9 (43:13):
So it's on its path now, m.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
And the blessings keep coming. I a little birdie told
me that this is not this is just beginning for you,
and you have some exciting things coming up with pilots.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Yeah, you know, I'm going to be working again with
Breaking Glasses and Enrich. They're great in their team, and
we're forming a producing partnership and we're putting together projects
that are pilots fully you know, already filmed everything done
so that they can go into pitch meetings with you know,
streamers like Paramount and HBO, Netflix, Showtime and be able

(43:47):
to say, hey, look this guy and his team are
producing pilots, much in the way Taylor Sheridan has Paramount Lockdown,
you know, with all those hits that he comes out with.
We want to have a content deal where we're producing
films and series for a network. That's the goal that
I've had since I started in this business, and I'm

(44:07):
really getting close to it now. So we finished our
first two pilots because Silent Partners, if you remember, I
told you it was a pilot, so we will be
shopping that pilot because it's still filmed as a pilot.
So the movie's out. We have a pilot that has
a completely different course going on. And then we have
a comedy called The Cherry Picker, which is about a
Hollywood you know talent who goes around and I guess,

(44:32):
cherry picking other people's ideas, and because he has the
money and the power and the connections, he turns them
into big hits.

Speaker 8 (44:38):
You know.

Speaker 9 (44:38):
He'll go pill for something.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Off of YouTube, pill for an idea off of here
and there, and then creates a big story. So he
gets called on the carpet by one of the guys
that he stole the idea from. So that's pretty funny comedy.
And then we have Burning Bridges, which is my foray
into the WWE type wrestling world. I played a character
called Jack Stacks, and you know, he's a thinking like

(45:02):
hul Cogan. You know, he's ten years past his prime.
He's out of the game and all the money and
all the fame and all the riches are now starting
to catch up to him. He was a bad guy
his whole life. He's the worst guy on the street,
and you know, he just wants to be the best
bad guy there ever was. So he comes up with
this diabolical plan to get back in the ring because
his partner is now getting elected to the Hall of

(45:22):
Fame and he's not, and he's not happy about that. So,
you know, it's a dark comedy, you know, with a
melancholy center about a guy just trying to find his
way and be.

Speaker 9 (45:31):
The best bad guy that he can.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
And then the last one is called him King, and
it's basically a XCIA Black Ops operative who gets set
up by an Iranian terrorist organization. They set him up
by killing his family, his wife, his four kids, and
they make it look like him. So he's on death
row and the government comes to him and offers him

(45:54):
an opportunity to not clear his name because as far
as the records are going to show, he's still dies
on death row, but he's going to actually be free
to go after the very terrorist network that set him up,
and you know, he's going to be operating as a
ghost and hunting at will.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Wow, you have some exciting things coming. How do you
keep it all straight? I mean that is a lot
of different ideas and they're all fully formed, wonderful ideas.
How do you keep your brain straight?

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Yeah, you know, like my partners and stuff, they'll they'll
always be like, hey, let's just you know, deal with
this one right now. And I'll be like, yeah, but
this and this, And I'm always pushing, you know, because
I guess I just work on a faster scale than
everybody else. I don't really know, but you know, my
guys tend to keep up with me. We get things
out and it's no easy task to do that, you know,
but we're doing it.

Speaker 9 (46:45):
So I don't really know how I keep it on straight.
I just do it, you know. I don't really think
about it.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (46:50):
Know what I got to do, and I do it.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
I love it. While I want everyone watch Tyudo, Depagio
and the rest of the very talented cast and Silent Partners.
Available to stream now on Amazon Prome. I'm in all
major digital platforms. Also, you have a big presence on Instagram,
so everybody go over there and follow you there and
any other shout out, well I have you or if
we've run out of times, you have so many exciting
things going on.

Speaker 9 (47:12):
Well, I thank you for being on your spotlight of
up and comers, and hopefully I will move into the
hour long segment while I'm actually a guy who will arrived.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
You are awesome and you know what, I know it
you are the person that you put your mind to
it it's gonna happen. I mean, it's a story of
your life. I mean it's it's wonderful to see how
everything that you are dreaming is coming to fruition. And
I'm excited to see your journey. I love to be
part of this and please come back anytime. I share
everything you have with us.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Well, when I get the pilots done, I'll let you
screen them and we can come back.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
On if you and you can come up to Philly.
I mean, we have that mob centric little town over here.
We have a little bit of a history here, so
you got to come visit our little neck of the woods.

Speaker 9 (47:55):
Okay, we can do that. I got no problem coming
in the studio. Let me you know where and I'll
be there.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
It's a date and I'm going to keep watching you.
I got my eye on you. You know, I'm giving you
the look here like you know, I'm doing it over
here and you can't see me right now, but I'm
doing it well. You are awesome and the best of
luck with us and everything going forward. Silent partners. Everyone
check it out Amazon Prime and you have an amazing
to enjoy the beautiful South Florida weather. Please every day

(48:22):
every day I'm jealous. Well, you have a wonderful one.
Thank you so much. Bye, Hey guys, that's all the
time we have for today. Thank you to my guests
and spotlight artists. We had Steve Postell and of course
Cheerto Depagio. For more interviews, visit the scene at doreen
dot com. I'm Dorian Taylor and on behalf of Matt

(48:42):
myself and the rest of the scene with Dorian crew.
See you next week.

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I'm Brian Shook. President Trump says he's arranging a meeting
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Open AI is relaunching a revamped chat GPT five CEO
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Thomas Nogucci, who is now ninety eight, is offering his
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As the alleged lover of then President John F.

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Kennedy.

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Monroe's death has been the subject of numerous conspiracy theories
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A Ukrainian sniper unit reportedly now holds the record for
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according to a report in the Kiev Post. The previous

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record also belonged to a Ukrainian sniper at around twelve
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