KCAA: The Scene with Doreen (Tue, 26 Aug, 2025)

KCAA: The Scene with Doreen on Tue, 26 Aug, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nineteen thirty two dot org, Hey, USA, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to the scene with Doreen.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm your host Story Taylor, setting the scene every week
to help you find out what's happening in music, TV, movies, sports,
the arts, and everything in between. We're proud to be
syndicated on stations coast to coast and originating right here
in the City of Brotherly Love on Philadelphia's number one
talk radio station, Talk eight sixty WWDB. Hey, USA, what's

(00:47):
going on? Welcome to the scene with Dorin.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Wait Wait, wait, Dorian, what are you doing? You just
did that?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
No, it's National start Over Day.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Oh, it's National start Over Day. Yeah, you're just going
to redo the intro again? How many times are you
going to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
You know, as many times as I get the point,
you know, to everybody that it's a National start over Day.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
All right? Oh well we started over the started off
the show with a start over.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I also wanted to do it this way because guess what,
this is the last time anyone is going to hear
the intro that we have except.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
For your podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Okay you when replay City, but for anyone who listening
to a new show, fresh news show.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
This is the this is the last time you're going
to hear that intro.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
We have a brand new one coming because they were
celebrating next week. Yes, yes, yeah, big milestone. I didn't
think i'd make it this song. No, No, honestly, I
don't know if you know, God didn't stop me. I
thought maybe I'd stopped myself by now, you know, I
really just I never I never thought I would do
it the song.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I kind of just did it as fun and I
really had a good time and it just kind of
took on a life of its own. And here we are,
hundred hooked, one hundred episodes. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Wow, Yeah, you got a good one today too.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Oh yeah, we're we'reried the next few weeks and next week,
my god, I can say it, you know, let's us
choose it.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Next week on the show, we have.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
The incredible Yes, actor Jeff Daniels coming on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
That is pretty amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Is going to be awesome to.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Celebrate one hundred episodes. What better guy to do one hundred?

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, he's been in a million different.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Million Rachnophobia, one of these like you know, horror movies
back in the Day, Purple Rosa Cairo. For the older generation,
I mean he's been around forever.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, there's there's not one person listening to this show
that hasn't seen something with Jeff Daniels.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Any age group.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
That's it's kind of cool because there's stuff on like
streaming right now that he's doing and that's pretty cool.
So every generation could say, well, I know him, but
I know him from that, or I know him from that.
So yeah, you're gonna everybody can listen next week and
find something that they know.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. Man. I really look forward
to this one.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
And he's a musician too, and we do a lot
of musicians, so it's like he is, he's got a
lot of stuff going on. We talk a lot about
his music. I think too, we're gonna we're gonna hit
it on that.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah, speaking to me music, today's guest is from I
think my favorite generation of music, my favorite decade of music.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You like the nineties, don't you.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, that's where my my formative years in high school.
That's where I went to high school.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know that was me too.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I kind of liked well, I was big and grunge,
so I was, you know, I was a grunge kind.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Of child at flannels.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I did have flannels, and I was very depressed all
the time, so I kind of just spoke to me.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
But I was really black hair.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I did do that, but later I did have jet
black hair for a while, and I'm you know, for
people that maybe are living under a rock, I am
really blonde. So it was a really odd look in college.
I looked very sickly because I'm very pale too, so
it was like Gothic Wednesday from yeahdam no, it was.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I have one photo of me like that.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
That is I keep it so like I don't do
it again as a reminder, but yeah, there's no record
of that anywhere.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
No, it is bad.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I've been every hair color, I've done everything, but blonde
is me, and that's where I'm staying.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think, I think we'll see, but we'll see.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
So you wake up one day and you're like change
this up.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
National start over day.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I'll just figure I'll shave it all off and we'll
start again.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Britney spears. I don't think that would be too bad.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
The ball ahead might look a little like Britney.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Everybody said that when I was young, everybody always said
that was my doppelganger. I was Britain and now she's
kind of Oh, I don't know what's going on with her,
But back when we were both young, Yeah, we're sort
of around the scene that when I heard all the
time when I was later and I used to have
the blunt bang across just like she had the hair.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
When I would go film in La, I swear people
I'd walk on the street, people thought it was her.
They would look, they'd do a second, you know, and hey.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
You have to practice the autograph. Yeah, people run into it.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
You'll see my thing on pawn Stars some day and say,
this is that girl who was you know?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Impersonating her? It's worth nothing more.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Sometimes you see on UH on social media, people will
take pictures thinking that they're with the actual person.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Always I could have played that. I could have made
some money on cameo and stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, could I could see it. Yeah, but no, we
have the real people on this show.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
So but yes, I think the nineties were a great
era of music. I my guest today, I was going
through for research and I forgot like this hit. I
knew the main hit, but then another hit, another hit
another hit, and it's incredible. But the fiercely independent band
and to do all this as an independent band, and
yeah they were on a label, but they kept it

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independent and to get their name out there like that
with all these hits, it's so amazing.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah. Yeah, it's going to bring back a lot of
memories for people when they hear this.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, and also to learn, like what made it all happen?
That's kind of what we do here.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
That's the best part.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's the best part. You know, the hits, but you
don't know maybe why they're hits.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah. Yeah, it's not wasting any more time, No, I
know you want to get to this guy, Yes, definitely,
let's go.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
My guest today on the scene with Doreen Rose to
musical stardom almost four decades ago. Toad the Wet Sprocket
dominated the early nineties with infectious hits like All I
Want Good Intentions, Walk on the Ocean, and Fall Down.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
With the heartfelt instrumentation of Toe the Wet Sprocket, the
buttery smooth vocals of founding member and brilliant singer songwriter
Glenn Phillips, created an emotional soundtrack for Generation X and beyond.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Take a listen, Joe Something.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
Jim.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Jump.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh Yes.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Fast forward forty years and Glenn Phillips and Toad the
Wetsprocket are not slowing down. The band heads out this
summer on a twenty six show Good Intentions tour across
the country and they are set to release the Greatest
Hits Acoustic album later this year, whether it be collaborating
with other artists, going solo, or rocking with the band

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that launched his career almost four decades ago. Glenn Phillips
is an alternative rock institution and I am thrilled to
have him on the show to talk about his incredible journey.
Welcome to the scene with Dorian Glenn, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (08:19):
And he did Waking Up, Waking Up?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
That'll get you going, that montage of amazing hits.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
If that doesn't get you moving, I don't know. We
were dancing in the studio here.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
Oh good. I am glad. It also makes me go, God,
that has been a minute.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's been as well.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Happy birthday anniversary Because Toad the Wet Sprocket was formed
nineteen eighty six and next year marks the band's fortieth anniversary.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's insane.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
This it does, it's insane. It's a little bit crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
So all those years back, you know, growing up Santa Barbara, California, you,
like the majority of boys in high school, you start
a band.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
But unlike those forty years later, you're still here.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I mean, do you ever think that would be the
case when you said I'm inquired, let's let's form a band, and.

Speaker 8 (09:04):
Not at all.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
I was. I had actually determined pretty earlier, pretty early.
I was a freshman when the rest of the band
was were seniors, and you know, we were, like you said,
in theater, inquired or to get acchoir together. And our
theater teacher talked about the reason he was a teacher
was because he loved the theater.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
More than anything.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
But he didn't want to have to go to La
New York, Chicago and constantly be rejected and criticized, and
you know in that, you know, audition after audition after audition,
he just wanted to be in the theater.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
So he taught.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
And so my plan was, I was like, that's me,
I'm fragile, I couldn't handle criticism.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
I want to be a teacher.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
And I was planning on you know when when the
band got set signed.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
Wow, no words this morning.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's okay, you are entitled.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
But when the band got signed, like literally we if
we we.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
Weren't expecting to get signed number one.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
But I was going to move up to San Francisco
and go to school there and do education, and.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
You know, I was not planning on doing this, and.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
You know, we ended up going on tour instead of
going back to school the next year. And I just
assumed we'd get dropped in a year or two because
everyone does, and then I go back to school and
then I do my teacher thing. But instead it ended
up being precisely the life I had already decided I
didn't want, which was public scrutiny. So it's been forty

(10:44):
years of reconciling that, but it's it's also been you know,
all the parts that you do want of, you know,
the travel, the meeting amazing people, the getting to to
make art and make people happy.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
So I just still have trouble with the scrutiny part.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, you were going to be a teach, sure, and
nowadays probably teaching is more difficult than the music industry.
I mean, I don't know, they're different beasts but probably
equally difficult, and it's you know, on its own level, it's.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Difficult in different ways.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
I'm married to a teacher, so uh it's yeah, I
got it where I could there you go.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I came from a family.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Both my parents are teachers, so I understand and it
helped me.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I mean it really did. Growing up.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
It was they really weren't pushing me or doing any
of it, but it just kind of wore off, you know,
you kind of it was rubbing off on me just
because they were educators.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Yeah, and my family was all my parents were academics,
hard science academics. And dad was a professor, and you know,
so I grew up with that as well. I trust
that profession because there's nobody in.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
It, not a lot of lause, not a lot of applause,
and a.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
Lot of applause, a hell of a lot of work.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
And it's something that you're going to do because it's
kind of like music, right, there's that Gillian Welsh line.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
We're going to do it anyway, even if it doesn't pay.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
Right, it's a calling, and uh, you know, I like
people who listen to their calling, especially if their calling
is giving to other people.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
So agree.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I agree using your platform and your gift to pay
it forward to others, which we're going to talk a
lot more about later on, but that is huge. I
love the artists that will take their gift and say,
you know what I've been based with the teachers, Oh
even teachers, Well you're doing it to see you are
still a teacher, though you are still in a weird
way educating everyone else by teaching them.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
You can be a musician and still pay it forward
out Well, you know, you did mention you were the
baby of the group, and did you get a little
like flack for that?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
You know, because they all had their licenses probably they
were nineteen, I guess at the time seniors. You were fifteen,
so you were kind of bumming rides off of them
to gigs and things like that. So did you get
a little bit of you know, push back a lot
because you were the baby for.

Speaker 7 (12:58):
Quite a while?

Speaker 6 (12:59):
I think, I mean, you know, at this point, I'll
say two things. Number One, as soon as I could drive,
my dad had a big green van.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
I drove a lot as soon as I could drive.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
And you know, it's a weird thing having been in
a band this long it's more of a familial than
a business relationship, for good and for ill, and so
there are certain elements relationally that are still kind of
maybe locked in at a really age with them as

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the seniors and me as the nerdy freshman. And you know,
sometimes that's bigger than others. I mean, I think I'm
proud that we have managed. You know, we started with
four of us. There's still three original members remaining, and
that we have managed to keep going and actually keep
trying to see the best in each other and keep

(13:58):
trying to move past the history. You know, not to
say the history isn't there. It's sometimes it's been really difficult,
but for some reason we've had to keep finding each
other in the middle of this and had to keep
kind of working it out. But it's definitely more familial

(14:20):
than business, and so things can get emotional or or
in our case, things can get emotional but unsaid that's.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Kind of well, it is like family.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
How many people, you know, I don't talk to their
you know, cousin three times removed because they didn't sit
at the wedding in the right table.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
And that's it. You know, you're you're burned for life
because of that.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
So, yes, families have that weird dynamic. And you're right,
no other profession do people become so close that they
could say these are these are my family members. We
tour together, we eat together, we shower together. I mean
we do everything together, and we create together. And I
always say that like with stockbrokers, anchors, you know, they
have a job, they go there, they bond, they have friends,
but it's not that same kind of dynamic that family.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah, it's a different thing. I mean it's also because
where artists, we're working with a certain degree. I mean,
I guess there's tangible and intangible uh you.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
Know endeavors in there, but it's a creative endeavor.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
And on top of it, this is also a job
where you are you know, not necessarily discouraged from remaining
you know, from remaining you know, adolescent in your essence.

Speaker 7 (15:35):
You know, it doesn't it doesn't mature you as fast as.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Our business sometimes, like you devolve sometimes in the profess Yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
Yeah, we all have some with some arrested development in here.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Okay, So I got to know, I think as a freshman,
I read Rogers and Hammer sign the classic Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
That was your first musical who did you play. Were
you in the choir? Did you play a role?

Speaker 7 (16:00):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (16:01):
I was in the choir because I was I was
a freshman. Dean, on the other hand, I forget the
name of the role. Dean saying the farmer in the
Cowman should be friends.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
So he had a role, Yes.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
He did, so Dean sang the farmer in the Conmen.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Also in that year we did Thornton Wilder's classic Our Town,
where I think Dean wasn't in that play, but Todd,
our guitarist, was the stage manager.

Speaker 7 (16:28):
He was the lead.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
So very nice.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
You all came all of that. I love that in
your living proof that that's kind of cool. You know,
you always get flack for that in school and sometimes
you get a little whatever from others, but you know what,
it can be cool.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I was the same way. I was cool, and I
was in all those things.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Well, I mean shows like Glee, you know, sing off
like it. At some point it kind of switched around,
and a lot of it I think were.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Those TV shows. But I mean, you know, and I
remember it was the captain of the football.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Team, like years after running running into him in town
at you know something and him saying like, I.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
Just wanted to tell you I started doing like improv classes.
I was always really jealous of you theater kids. Takes
a lot of bravery to get like it was like,
that's cool.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
So the folklore goes that you were fans of Money Python,
especially Eric Idyl, and you borrowed the name so the
wet Sprocket from a skit that he wrote, but you
never intended to keep that name.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
That was just kind of like a placeholder for you guys.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
Yeah, it's uh, it's the cautionary tale.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Uh please tell, please share.

Speaker 7 (17:38):
We had a gig.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
Dean was the one who suggested at our bass player
and you know, we both had the Contractual Obligation album.
It's you know we were deep cut. You were you know,
we deep cut Money Python people. So it was on
one of the records and talked about what was it
Rex Stados lead Electic Triangle for tidit Sproket had to
have an elbow removed following the recent World Ride two

(18:02):
of Finland.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Wow, that's very good.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
So there's also actually a toad the wet Sprocket in
the Rutland Weekly News, which was the pre Monty.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
Python show that Eric Idle did.

Speaker 9 (18:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:20):
Yeah, they brought it out a few times. So, uh yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
It was just supposed to be the stupidest band name ever,
and we thought it would be hilarious to see in print.

Speaker 7 (18:30):
And then like a year went by and we.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Were trying to think of something really cool and we
never thought of something cool.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
No, I guess that was us.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
The good thing is, I mean, you know, we've been
We put out a few new albums.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
I happened to think they're pretty good.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
The fans think they're pretty good, but they didn't like
you know, they didn't.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
We didn't put them out through a major label. They're
not top of the pops.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
But you know, the biggest press bump we get is
every year there are lists of the worst band names ever,
and we are on.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
It every single time.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
It's like writing a Christmas song, you know, it's just
it's evergreen. It just keeps cranking. So every year we
get a little bump from all the worst band name
ever the list.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Well, what number do you where do you meander? What
number do you kind of fall number one or you
kind of like lower.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
We're around a three, you know, it's like somewhere between
Mata Hoople hooting the Blowfish, which is great.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
So they're friends. So it's like we do a little
mini tour together.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
The Worst band Name Tour, the.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
One the one band name that I haven't seen show
up in most of those lists that really should be there.

Speaker 7 (19:37):
Becau's like the best band name, worst band name. First
band called the Pooh Sticks.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Which I don't know if it's good or bad. It
could go either way.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Well, the thing is, if you're a Winnie the Pooh fan, it's.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Great, is it? What the h though? Is it pooh h?

Speaker 7 (19:54):
Yes, it's poky.

Speaker 10 (19:56):
It's the game that the Pooh and Piglet play on
a bridge where they stand it one side of the
bridge on you know, this has a river flowing under it,
and they both drop a stick in the water.

Speaker 6 (20:10):
Then they run to the other side of the bridge
and they see whose stick comes out first.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Wow, there's so many metaphors and things. I could go
so far.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Mats looking at me, he's like, don't do it, don't
do it, Dorian, so many things.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
At its core, the poo Sticks is the most innocent
name possible, but it just doesn't feel like it.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
It doesn't on so many levels. Oh, that's so wrong
and so right. It's so wrong, it's so right.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
It's just if you just go Winnie the Pooh because
I love Winnie the Pool.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Everyone does.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
It's a great band name, it's a great no just
it requires too much explaining, whereas the good thing with
Tod the wet Sprocket is it's meaningless.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
It's like there's literally no there there.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
Well, there's a.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Folk floor there because then Eric Idle he had no
idea you were using it. And then he's driving in
southern California one day on the highway he almost dies.
You almost kill him because he almost drives off the highway.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
So now that would have been a press cycle.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
So he's like, here's it on the radio. Was like,
wall and did you get any like?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean, is there an issue like with intellectual properties
or copyright? I mean, did he come to you and
say you can't use my name? I can't, I can't.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
He wrote us a lovely note saying I nearly crashed
my car. I can't believe we wrote that was supposed
to be so bad a.

Speaker 7 (21:29):
Name that nobody would actually ever use it. Yeah, I will.
I promise not to sue you if you send me
a goal.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
Should you ever earn a gold record, will you send
me one?

Speaker 7 (21:40):
And so we did?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
You honored that.

Speaker 7 (21:42):
How nice that he never suit us.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
That's very cool.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I wondered does he have it prominently displayed in his home?
Did he ever send you like a shot of it
on his wall.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
Or I'm sure he's got a wall full of them.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
I mean, I have no idea where it is, but
I hope it has a place of honor somewhere.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Have you ever met it?

Speaker 7 (22:00):
I guess what I mean with it?

Speaker 6 (22:02):
Then the name has an origin story, yeah, but it
has no meaning true, if that makes sense, it's.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Just unless to toad the wet Sprocket. We we tell
people for a while, what was it that it was?

Speaker 6 (22:17):
You know, it was about a kind of sucking up
to the military industrial complex to become a toady wet Sprocket,
the wet Sprocket being the well boiled machine of the
military industrial complex.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Wow, that's a spin, I've I did not realize there
was that big spin that you kind of backstory you
put into that.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
Wow, you go.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I kind of like the simplicity of the electro was
electri Triangle and the band name that was never supposed
to be used because it was so bad.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I kind of like that better.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
Actually, yeah, it is better.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
But it was the nineties, so you kind of had
to have that story of angst. You know, there was
Nirvana and all of these other bands, and you had
to have your own kind of darker side to you.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
That was the weird thing about us. It's like there's
a lot of melancholy in the lyrics. I mean, we
definitely had it there. And I'm a lifelong depression sufferer,
so yeah, understood.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know that you have a fan club here, yes.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Yeah, But it's the thing about us as well as
we kind of we never did the you know, Edgy
imaging very well, and I think so at that era.
We would we would play these radio shows and it
would be like.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
Us and you know, Henry Rollin's day and whole whole
collective soul.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
They'd say hi, but like we were just it was
bizarre because we were the theater geeks again and everybody
was like, really Edgy, the great Frickin' bands.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
But they would pass us in the hall and like
not even acknowledge.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Knock your books of your hand are trip.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
They were never mean, they just we did not exist.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
They would walk past us with no acknowledgment of our existence.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
We did not belong, which is fine, but I mean that.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Was the era, right, There was this attitude that you
had to like that if you weren't outwardly gnarly, you
didn't have anything complicated inside. And I think part of
the reason that we got popular in that it's a
little like when Nora Jones came out, there had been
this trend of female artists.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
Being like super edgy, sexual, smart.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
You know, it's like it's and she just made beautiful
music and played and sang really well, and people were like, oh, thank.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
God, like you can still do that. Seemed pretty In
the Blowfish, you know, everything.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Was edgy, edgy, edgy, edgy, and Hooty was just like
wanted to hold your hand, and nobody else was saying
that at the time. And and you know, I do
think our place there is we kind of spoke, you know,
before the nerds ran the world, right, This was just
before nerds.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
From becoming millionaires.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
And and I think we spoke to the nerds.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
They were our people.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
There's a lot of them out there, there's a lot
of I think there's a few in this room right now,
and I you know what, we're all there with you,
and we needed a voice.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
You opened. Think about this way, you sort of paved
the way for the nerds.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
I don't know if we go with this. We gave
them a little solace on the way.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
We We were the band that like when they dropped
their pencil on the bus, just leaned down and handed
it back to them with a smile instead of taunting
them mercilessly. I think that was more our role.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's very good. But you know, you guys were fierce.
You really were.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
You know you're playing this like you know, I'm the
quiet little nerd role, but you told the what Sprocket
has always been a fiercely independent band. You turned down
amounts of money to sign with Columbia so you could
have creative control. You turned down Dick Clark's New Year's
Rock and Eve because they wanted you to lip sync
and you said, no, we're not about that. And I
applaud you bravo for taking a stand when that wasn't

(26:16):
actually cool to do at the time.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
Thank you. Yeah, yep, sand note of money. Apparently I'm
really good at that.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Most musicians, I think are deep down.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
A lifeloe made a lifel commitment to that one.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Do you ever regret the decision? Though?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Do you look back and do you ever say, you
know what, maybe I should have just played nicer with
the label. Maybe I should have just you know, played
the game. And I mean, do you think your career
would have went differently if you did, or would it
have maybe just gone the same way?

Speaker 7 (26:46):
I don't know. I remember like a Pat Benaitar quote.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
I think it was Pat Benatar because she never did endorsements.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
She had this very hard selling out line and.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
She was like, although the unfortunately somebody just did Congress
dulate me for this stuff, so there you go. But
we were the same and she said yeah, and now,
like you know, thirty years later, like no one ever
came up and patted me on the back and said, like,
thanks Pat for keeping it real.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
Frankly, I could have used the money.

Speaker 9 (27:15):
So there's I mean, we had a very indie attitude
for a band on a major label, and I think
Donnie Einer, who ran Columbia, could never understand that.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
I just didn't really want to be that famous. I
wanted to make a living, but I didn't have that
need to win. I was just talking with a friend
about this recently, Like, and that can happen in any job, right,
Like if the attitude is I want to be on top,
I want to be you know, hit the upper atmosphere.

(27:51):
I just didn't want to get hurt by being exposed
and criticized by everybody. And I got that anyway, because
like the second that all I Want became a hit,
the indie people who had previously supported us, like we
got you know, there was a like a columnist in
remember Tower Pulse magazine. There were a period of months

(28:13):
where every single like that front editorial he would use
us as the punchline for a joke and like bag
on us every single issue, and like we were not
the cool kids, and they really let us know. And
it was incredibly difficult for me, like to have all

(28:36):
that criticism. We were doing well commercially, doing well on MTV,
selling records, doing well live, but the critics really turned
on us.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
For a while, and that was it really hurt. It
deeply hurt.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
And you always want the people who don't like you
to like you, and you don't pay attention, you know,
the stupid thing is not paying attention to the people
who do.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Like it matter.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
But yeah, and so it was a strange thing.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
We were on a major label, but we were playing
we were trying to play a kind of indie game,
and that doesn't necessarily work. I think you have to
stake your claims. But I think what we didn't do.
I think you have to be proactive about what you
actually are. And in terms of you know, even with

(29:26):
photos or whatever, videos, we would think of them, Oh,
I got all. I guess it's a single, like okay,
pick a director, show up one day and we'll see
what we get, right, Yeah, and then you don't know
that that's going to be like what people think you are.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
For years we were kids.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
I was, you know, twenty three, I was twenty one
when we did the all I Want video, And so
there's this by you know, we thought ori Em didn't
have an image. We thought they just were what they were,
and we're going to like, we're going to to be that,
We're just going to show up as we are, no artifice, and.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
Actually Rim I think was really careful about how they
were seen. And the image was that they didn't have
an image.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
But they had an image.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
But they had an image, and we just kind of
left an open space for people to fill in which
we didn't have our story together, I think very well,
and so I think it's actually important to play the
game a little. But you have to decide, you have

(30:34):
to understand the game, and you know, you can't just
be on a major label.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
I think what really ended the.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
Band the first time around was we'd never taken any
advance from the label aside from recording costs, and it
took us. It still took us because this is the
way the business works. We'd sold I think a million
and a half records before we ever saw our royalty check.

(31:03):
But we weren't you know, they were spending money on videos.
I mean we spent more. We would spend twice as
much on a single video than we spent on the
album because you were shooting on film back in those days.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yes, you weren't doing those.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Yeah, so we're paying back for that.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
But we never got any rent money from the company
at that point, and so we were like, on the
last record on Coil, it's like, well, let's take a
big advance. We never took a big advance before, so
let's put a little money in our own pockets, and
we didn't realize that if you take that money, you
have to play that game.

Speaker 7 (31:35):
Yes you can't.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
You can't continue acting like an indie band on a
major label.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
And it was difficult. It didn't work very well. And
we were, you know, young, I was what twenty six
by then. Yeah, I can't leave you.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
You know, I have two daughters who were older than
I was when the band broke up.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
You blink, it's over. I know, it's like.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Crazy, crazy, it's crazy. And I have another My youngest
daughter is older than I was.

Speaker 7 (32:07):
At the peak of our career. So it's it's really strange, man.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
It is.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
So we didn't get it, and uh, you know, I
think I think we I don't know. I like to
think if we'd had some great advice, we might have
done a better job of all that and maybe even
kept the band together, done a few side projects and
then come back together.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
But uh, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
Maybe we did get that advice and didn't listen to
it because we thought we knew everything.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
You know, that's part of being young.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
You think you know everything and then you realize you didn't,
and then but you still hold on that you did.
It's sort of that's like the secret of being young,
but you know it didn't you know, you're painting this
story of like, oh, you know, woe is Me?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
But I gotta say, you know.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
No, it's it's not woe is me.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
No, no, no joking.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
I'm sorry, no, no, no, because I gotta say, it's incredible.
Your career, I think about it four decades. Most people
can't get four minutes nowadays with anything, any kind of fame,
and if it is, it's bad fame. So like fall Down,
the song I played in the beginning, fall Down, your single,
it's my favorite that you guys did, and it just
turned thirty last year, and it is held up extremely

(33:22):
well after three decades. The message is even still very
relevant today, even maybe more so.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
And it was nineteen ninety four when that was really I.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
Think the concepts we wrote about, I mean, we were
writing about angst and self reflection and death and you know,
and those I think our material has I mean, not
all of it in a production way, but thematically a
lot of it has aged pretty well. Yeah, we weren't
writing songs about like you know, you know, hey, little

(33:56):
sixteen year old you know, it's like, you know, wasn't
about going to the club and getting drunk.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
It's it. So, you know, angst is forever.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Unfortunately, Yes, yes.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
And we've had I wasn't trying to be what was me.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
I think you asked about the you know, with the company,
and I think I think we made some errors and
and honestly had a tough learning process. I mean, we
were huge at twenty one, and we were over by.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
The age of twenty seven.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
I had two kids, I couldn't get a record deal.
I went into a major, long, extreme depression and still
went on the road at a time where I should
have been getting help, and I stent a lot of
fans away by being so depressed on stage that I,

(34:48):
you know, I wasn't any good to anybody.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
And so it's been a long process.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
I mean, the amazing thing is that, you know, in
the early two thousands we got back together. We took
about five years off. We played chos and the first
times we played shows there was so much bad blood.
It's like we kept finishing and I like, never again,
never again.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
And we came to a point like we've been finding
peace in as we've matured.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Like it's one of the things about the fact that
none of us are like aggressive, violent people. We would
all rather bite our tongue and get along, you.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Know, they were never the aggressors.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Yeah, and so I mean, it is this amazing thing,
especially in the last few years.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
The relationships have been getting so much better. People are happier,
we're getting older.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
We didn't say the things that would have made it,
and I mean, maybe we'll get to go under the.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
Hood at some point more and heal some of it.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
I'm not a person who generally believes and just tamping
it down. I like to head things, you know, meet
things more head on. Sure, but there is a resilience
that this band has had in being able to still
be together and still try to see the best in
each other.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
We sound better than we've ever sounded. Like the live show.
It's so much it's good, so much better.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
The stuff you're putting out there with the acoustic and
the videos you've been putting out, they are incredible.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
Thank you. It's been like to feel like we're growing
at this point and improving is remarkable.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
And that also the relationships slowly and surely are also
doing that.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
Yea, that were happier on stage if you saw us.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
Ten years ago, there wasn't a lot of smiling at
each other on stage enough if like you look at it,
there was a period where if you looked at another guy.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
It'd be like, what what did I do? And now
you look at somebody and you smile, and it's like
it's pretty good hunt Ye, Yeah, this is fun. Yeah,
And I never thought we'd be able to do that.
And I'm so proud of us that we have.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Like it's been a long road and and it's our
audiences fed it back to us as well, because I
think as we have put more into the show and
put more into each other, that people can feel that.
And our audiences have been getting bigger the last few years.
I mean some of that is just the nineties or
a thing. Now.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yes, they are coming back full force right now. They've
been back, but they're coming, you know more back again.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
It's our second round of nostalgia.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Well, you know, in two thousand and three, the song
that I was mentioning fall down you got traction again
because it was featured in Billions and it was what
the number one such song on Shazam an entire week
after the episode aired. Really, you know that that's proof
good music doesn't age.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, that's your friend, right, Yeah, you guys are.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
And he's yeah, he was an ANAR guy. So he
when he was at Tufts as a kid, he heard
Tracy Chapman playing in a coffee shop and ended up
getting her signed to Electra Records and became an R
guy there. So when he was like twenty two, I
think he was Metallica's ANAR guy really, and then he

(38:24):
decided he and his friend David Levine were like they
were movie buffs, and after they saw what was Tarantinos
for his Reservoir Dogs, He's like, we need to write movies,
and Rounders was their first ever screenplay.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Like he was a total outsider in that world, but
he he works his ass off and he has He's
one of those people who can just kind of keep
his He's the same.

Speaker 7 (38:53):
Guy no matter who he's with.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
And so that personality that could help him walk into
like a film production office and get backing also made
it so that he could walk into an underground poker
game in New York and have people trust him and
talk to him. He's he's always the same guy. And yeah,
so he's been a friend like forever, and yeah, I

(39:18):
had no idea that I wish he'd put more of
our songs into the amen.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well there's still time.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
It sounds like, you know, but seriously, good music never ages,
and that's what I find with Toad the Wet Sprocket.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
It's just good music.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
And I'm so happy you're going back on tour and
I want to We're gonna take a little bit of
a break because I want to talk about that and
all of the other things you have going on. I'm
dorean Taylor. You're listening to the scene with Dorene. And
when we come back, I'm gonna chat more with the
wonderfully talented Glenn Phillips of Toad the Wet Sprocket. We
talk more about his creative process heading out on his
twenty twenty five national tour, and we're gonna wrap it
all up right after this.

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Speaker 2 (42:58):
I am your host.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Story Taylor and I have been chatting with founding member,
lead singer and songwriter Glenn.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Phillips of Toad the Wetsprocket.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
That was a small excerpt of their tune Nancy and Glenn,
I gotta say. You're heading out on the twenty twenty
five Good Intentions Tour starting in July twenty six selec
cities across the country, and you're doing it with a
great lineup of bands rotating throughout the tour.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
How do you select your groups?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
When you're gonna go and you're gonna say who's gonna
support because you're headlining, who do you pick?

Speaker 7 (43:29):
How do you pick? Well, it's a combo. I mean
there's a part of this.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
You know, we've we've kept making new records, but we
also understand that we're a legacy band.

Speaker 7 (43:41):
And you know I've said before, I.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Don't know, I always go off on tangents, but like
there is an element about like you keep writing songs,
but the songs you heard in your early twenty like
it's it's a method of time travel. It takes you
back somewhere, takes you back, even if it was like
a really hard time. I think there's something about music
that brings you back in a way that gives you

(44:05):
objectivity and compassion for yourself. Like that song that's the
worst breakup you ever had, and you hear it again
and instead of feeling traumatized traumatized by it, you feel like,
what a hard time?

Speaker 7 (44:19):
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
It brings you back, Yeah, but it brings you back with.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
A little compassion and objectivity. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
And so so we've sometimes when we're out just doing
like you know, summer it's a little more of a
festival thing and the three band bill. A lot of
the time we'll go out, it'll be more just us
and we'll try to bring it up and coming artists
and bring bring somebody to expose them to a new audience.
For the summer tour, we've been finding it really works

(44:51):
well to do more of a package tour and keep
it more about the memories.

Speaker 8 (44:56):
But so.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
We're out this summer with sixpence on the richer, Yes,
and I believe they're back to original line, which is awesome,
and also Jayhawks, which is going to be absolutely incredible. Yes,
so it was originally going to be semi sonic, and
they've had some medical issues that they thought were going

(45:21):
to be everybody's going to be okay, but that they
thought would be resolved and they're unable to come out
on the tour and which I'm really sad about. Dan
Wilson's been a friend for a very long time. We've
in some amazing songs together. But yeah, when that when

(45:42):
that ended up kind of unraveling, I.

Speaker 7 (45:43):
Was like, what are we going to do? And I
feel so lucky to have the Jayhawks. I oh, yeah,
that band.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
They're so good live and there's not a single person
I told about it that it hasn't got it. You
have the Jayhawks, like, so it's going to be. It's
going to be great and Katie Tunstall. It's also going
to be doing more in the fall, but some in
the summer. So I'm stoked this is going to be
I'm really excited about all the bands we're playing with.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Absolutely and you know, also something near and dear to
my heart, you're giving back on this tour. You've partnered
with the National Parks Foundation to help support our national treasures,
which is much much needed right now. And I know
you've supported other nonprofits, you know, through the band's career,
But why the National Parks for this tour.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
It's a meeting park. We you know, take these things around.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
Todd is really our guitarist, is a really dedicated outdoorsman fisherman,
and I am a hiker, and you know, and I mean,
you know, so we have our own personal vested interest
in just keeping these places beautiful, but also keeping the biodiversity,

(46:54):
keeping the land, you know, the safe from human devas
development in a world that's increasingly getting paved over, in
a world that has been complaining about being so paved over. Yeah,
you know, these are the lungs of our country and
and they're not something that we can.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
Create again once it's gone.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
That biodiversity, that interweaving of species, plant and animal is
absolutely necessary to our survival.

Speaker 7 (47:28):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Yeah, I mean that that's that's about it. And it's
in greater danger than it has ever been. It's it's
a short sighted thing to go.

Speaker 7 (47:41):
It's just a bunch of line. You could build hotels.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
On you know, lots of warehouses.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Now that's like the big thing, especially over here on
the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
It's everything is a warehouse.

Speaker 7 (47:51):
Data centers.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
Yes, yes, so I mean we're yeah, it's like something's
got to be are in this world. I agree, you know,
the we we have, We're not going to Mars.

Speaker 7 (48:08):
I'll just say that we.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Have as much as they want.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
None. Yeah, there is no planet.

Speaker 6 (48:13):
B We are on this planet and we have already
had a massive impact on it, and we need to
keep these spaces. We need to give our children and
our grandchildren and their children access to these wild spaces.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Well so yeah, yeah, you know that's why I said
near and dear to my heart in my former life
before I became a wonderful radio TV host. I twenty sixteen,
I was selected by the National Parks Conservation Association to
perform Colors of the USA, which became their anthem for
their centennial. So yeah, so I said, I when I
saw that, I was like, I got I gotta bring

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that up because that's such an important thing to myself
as well. So thank you, thank you for doing that
and giving back a lot of artists. They say, you
know what, more money more money ku ching kuching, because
that's where you make your money, touring, and they're never
giving back. And I love that you are doing that again,
like I mentioned in the beginning, paying it forward with
your gift.

Speaker 7 (49:08):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
And in addition to that, you collaborate with other artists
as well. I got to give you a shout out.
Steve Postell had him on a spot like Guests, and
I know you collaborated with the song on his new album.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
So you're always busy. You had a solo career that
went really well. What do you prefer? Do you like performing?
You know, writing, you know, with the exchange of creative
creative ideas.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Do you like free and independent self expression or yeah,
you like all of it?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Huh?

Speaker 7 (49:39):
I like it all.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
I love collaboration, I love I love playing live, I
mean solo or with the band. I there's you know,
I have a lot of solo records and side projects,
and I don't get to play those songs when I'm
out with toads. So you know, I have a huge
cattle that I like to be able to address when

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I'm doing my own thing. You know, it's much much smaller, but.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
It's not quantity. It's quality.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
It's not quantity, it's quality.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
And I need the balance because I also understand Toad
is more of a show and Toad is you know,
we understand kind of what our function is. Toad is
putting on a show, and they are the songs we
must do. When I go play solo, I just like
write down forty songs on a piece of paper and

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I don't know what I'm going to say, and I
don't know what songs I'm going to play in what order.

Speaker 7 (50:38):
I just that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
Yeah, it's a little more of a free shite wire,
whereas the Toad it's like we're trying to nail something specific.

Speaker 7 (50:48):
Right, And so.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
Yeah, it's a really different world. And I love collaborating
with other songwriters. I mean, I'm finally getting to an
age where it's I hope I can find ways of
making a living at home in the next whenever. I mean,
what's wonderful is I can make a living being on
the road. But it means, you know, like last year

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it was sixty Toad shows and then forty Solo shows, and.

Speaker 7 (51:16):
So it was busy. Yeah, yeah, gone about half the year.
And when you're coming and going all the time.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
It's really hard to like get you know, creative flow going.

Speaker 7 (51:26):
I'm not twenty.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
You know, when you're in your twenties, you just think
everything you do is good.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
You sleep tomorrow or you don't, never sleep. You just
keep going.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
You don't worry about those things eating, what's eating? You
just keep going.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
And now it's like, I need to know what project
I'm working on. It really helps me to have a
collaborator when I write, just to keep to have someone
to answer to so I don't get distracted or I
don't go.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
As it is crap. Somebody already wrote this song better,
you know. And so.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
Yeah, it's interesting getting older. Would I would like to
to were bless someday?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, but you're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
You're because you know, if it weren't enough, not yet,
if not, if headlining the twenty twenty five Good Intention
Stour wasn't enough, told the what sprocket.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Now they're putting the finishing.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Touches on an acoustic Greatest Hits album and it's set
for release later this year. But I do I have
to say it again, your music strips down beautifully to acoustic,
and I love this stuff you're posting.

Speaker 6 (52:25):
It's not like a stripped down acoustic it's a pretty
produced record.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
It is, but it's beautiful.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
It's but it's it's it's great to be able to
reinterpret these songs.

Speaker 15 (52:36):
Uh, I like them better in some cases, in some
cases better. I feel like we're we've got a great
thing here, and so we're really we've been really excited
about it.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
It's good, yes, and so I want everyone go to
toad Thewetsprocket dot com. Check out the band's music, all
the tour dates, buy some cool merch by the way,
sign up for the newsletter, and stay connected to everything
that has Towed the wet Sprocket and of course, the
fabulous Glenn Phillips. Glenn, I wish I could keep you forever.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
This went's so fast.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
This is really one of my faster interviews I've ever had.
I just everything you say, I have. I have a
thousand questions or I didn't even get to But I
just want to thank you because I know you're so busy.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
You're so welcome. I also I have to ask you
a question. You're you're intro bumper. Have you heard Dolly Partons?
What's going on.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
No, I use the four non blonde version, but yeah, no,
I have not.

Speaker 7 (53:32):
Give it a lesson.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
She does a great does a great version of it.
But my favorite thing about it too is and it's
the most Dolly parton possible thing to have done with
that song, it's pray.

Speaker 7 (53:43):
Oh my god, I pray for a resolution, not a revolution,
a resolution.

Speaker 12 (53:49):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (53:49):
So Dolly it is.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Everything comes back to Dolly.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
All my guests in somewhere or an other, you know,
they all Artemis Pile, all these people who have been
on my show have worked with Dolly, been with I said,
Dollar's got to come on. That's like my next one.
That's got to be the white Whale I get is
very very pink and blonde. No, beautiful, amazing, Dolly and Dolly,
if you're listening, I'm putting it in the cosmos. Now

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you're coming on the show, and Glenn is going to
join us again because I think you.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
I think got a little crush for we all do. Oh,
thank you so much, Glenn.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Please anytime come back, and when you're in town, I
would love to come out and check you out. I
know you're going to be in uh reading Pa I
think that's the closest you're coming to Philly at the
Santander I believe arena.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
So I would love to come out and say hi, Yeah,
please do yeah, definitely. Thank you so much. Now go
get some sleep. Yes, thank you, I like that.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
You have a wonderful Thank you, Bye you too. Thank
you to my guest today, the wonderful Glenn Phillips of
Toad the Wet Sprocket. And thank you again for tuning
into the scene with Doreen. I'm here each week across
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