Listening to Your Inner Voice: Lessons from Laura Bowden's Journey | Wisdom Wednesday - The Season of Self Love

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Season and Self Love Podcast. I am
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let's embark on this journey together. Because it's time to
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all right, Mavie, Welcome back to this season the Stufflove Podcast.
I am your host, Noami banks and this is Wisdom

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Wizday as we continue our July series of Preparing for Transformation.
Today's episode is especially close to my heart because it
featured someone who's become an unexpected angel in my journey.
That's patient advocate Laura about him. When I first spoke
with Laura on the phone, something magical happened. I felt
this immediate spiritual connection, this recognition of kindred souls who

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truly understand.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
The path that I was walking. But here's the beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
By the time I spoke with Laura, I already knew
in my heart that which surgeon was ripe for me,
and that knowing had come at the altar on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
That's how I actually found I actually found her.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Message on Facebook on another whole Facebook, and I saw
her name and she was talking about this doctor and
I was like, wait a minute. I already had two
appointments with another doctor during that week, and something, just
something just pulled me towards that doctor.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
And just speaking with Lord that day just confirmed it
all for me.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
And I knew that I had to have her a
part of this series because it wouldn't be right for
me to talk about my journey and going to have
this expect journey.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
And not the very person that actually confirmed it all
for me. But before we.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Bring Lord to space, I want to take a break
a right security Goddess Bakship on the season.

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To the podcast and we'd be right back.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Washington Wells Instituto focuses on healing always for me. If
I look good, then I feel good. If I feel good,
then I share the good. If I share the good,
then I celebrate the good. If I celebrate the good,
then I live the good. So I can pay to
be my greatest. But I have to learn the good
to be the good.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
So what does it take to be the greatest. It's
as simple as a free fifteen minute consultation. Be kind
to you so you'll all.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
It's your girl.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You gotta now me. Thanks and make sure you.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Thursday love sex relationship so much. You need to stop
me and doctor as well. You have some amazing.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Make sure you go to and telling Miami. All right, well,
welcome back, my beautiful people. Well welcome Laura.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Thank you so much for having me on.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I am so excited for this series and I'm just
excited to have you on that you can share your story.
But before we usually you know going so that we
do a nice little guided meditation.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
So right now, my listeners, you know how we do it.
If you are could just get into a night comes
for a position and close your eyes.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Take a deep breath in.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Hold it gently.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Now slowly exhale, allowing your body to settle completely in
this moment, fil your feet connected to the earth, your
body supported it. Now visualize a warm golden light begining

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at your heart and expanding out, filling your entire being
with clarity and with inner west. Now, as you continue
to breathe slowly.

Speaker 7 (04:52):
And deep, write your intuition to speak softly to you,
that quiet voice that always knows that's right for your highest.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
That gentle know that GUIDs you toward truth and healing.
And I want you to breathe in your own guys,
and I want you to breathe out any doubt about
your ability to know what's right for you. You have

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assets to the profound wisdom within you, you always have.
And when you are ready, gently bring your awareness back
to our conversation and carry that sense of inner knowing.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
All right, my beautiful people, thank you for sharing that
moment with me. And if you are new here to
the season and Stephal podcast is something we do every
day Monday through Fridays, just to help them around us beople.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
We get into the top of your.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Hand, all right, So today we're exploring one of the
most skills of any of us can develop, and that's
learning to listen and to and trust our inner voice,
especially when it comes to a major health decision. And
I can't think of anyone better to guide us through
this conversation than Laura about It, who courageously journeyed with

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breast input illness, has not only transformed her own life,
but has become a beacon of hope and wisdom for
other countless of other women. Lower story is a powerful
testament to what happens when we choose to honor our
body's signals over external spectations, when we trust our known

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even when others dismiss our experience. Her journey emphasizes something
that I'm learning deeply right now, and that the true
healing requires not just medical intervention, but the compassionate care
and unwavering trust and our own in a wisdom you know, Lord.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
When we first spoke on the.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Phone about a month ago, I felt that this immediate connection,
that the sense that you truly understand what I was
going through, and I want to go again. Thank you
for being here to share your wisdom now for you,
how did you get in first of all, tell your story.
How did you begin to even know that breast implant

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illness was even something that was going on with you?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
You know, It's it's interesting because this was thirty three
years ago. It was before social media, and it in
one sentence, was my God given them.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
It was.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
That I haven't gotten my implants twenty six years old.
Nurse my babies, wanted the airput back in them, was
told they're perfectly safe, trusted you know, as you know
we all do in the medical field. And I was
very healthy, got them and within four months started feeling
good tea, dry eyes, inflammation, rain fog, everything that the

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women that I talked to have that connection and being like, okay,
that's me, that's me, that's me. Every doctor you can
imagine in two years and here's another anxiety medication. You know,
how's your marriage? You do have kids? You know, just
everything throwing everything and making me think I was crazy.
And one day I remember where I was standing and
I thought, what is different in my life? And I

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thought I got pressed in post.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
So it wasn't like a it.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Wasn't a Facebook post, it wasn't an Instagram post that
came out and said hey, you know we're so fortunate
for social media these days that women are throwing lifelinestyle
the women. So I truly believe that I say this
all the time that I was spared. I was spared
back thirty three years ago, and I thought, well, I'm
going to go back to my classic sugion because he'll

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tell me if it's my implants. And I remember sitting
there and I just said, I'm very sick. And I said,
if it's my implants, please let me know and tap
me on the leg.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Now.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Now, now there's no scientific data of the show that's
why you're sick. But I'll take them out under a
local if that makes you, if that makes you happy.
And I was a week away from this man taking
them out, and I was sitting it and I don't
age of audience. I was sitting at my grandma's house
watching Jenny Jones. She's generic Oprah and back back in

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the day she was, and she's talking about me and
sicks and every symptom is mine, and underneath the TV
scrolled a little support group. I called that phone number
that night at nine o'clock at night. A woman answered
my phone. Her name was Vicky, and she was my angel.
She saved my life. Laura's going to have a couple
of tears. I'm not gonna lie. And she said, you

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were very sick and it is from your implants. So
that became my journey finding a doctor that believed. I mean,
can you imagine thirty three years ago. Now, at least
we have amazing brave doctors doing the right thing, like
doctor sued, you know, first, do no harm. And I
met three floors of sick women at Bailee University, just

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like when I thought I was the only one. And
I was under his care for two weeks. I was
part of this study. He was a neurologist. His name
was doctor Patton. He's actually featured in the X Plant documentary.
So I need watching very important. That's really validation if
anybody's watching and wants more information. X Plant documentary was amazing,

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and he was doing his study and while we were there,
somebody broke into his office and put duct tape and
purchased on his desk, and in time they destroyed his
career and moving implants for so that right there speaks volumes.
I had my implants removed, including the capsules from a

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surgeon that he knew of and within twenty four hours,
it was like somebody flipped the switch from it, the
clarity in my brain, you know, the brain fog. We
all talked about the word retrieval. It was like somebody
took it out of my brain. And I remember my
neurologist walking in the next day said how do I
feel so much better? And he said, you were one
of the lucky ones. You were young, they were not ruptured,

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and you were very healthy. And it was like taking
once up the fire time when I regained my health.
For me, it happened that quickly. Everybody's journey is different.
I promised every one of those women that I met
at the hospital and I would have come back home
and I would be their voice, And that started my journey.
Thirty three years ago, my husband and I started a
support group with a little ad in the newspaper. Back

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then we didn't have social media and women being from underground,
and it proceeded into the over show finding out about
our support group. They asked us to be in the audience.
From there, anybody that would listen, any podium, any Good
Morning America spoke in Washington. You know, we did a
lot of more boots to the ground back then. Now

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we have social media, you know, so you can't stop
this truth tream. So it's literally been thirty three years
of speaking the truth and women speaking their truth. And yeah,
that's how that's how you're finding that's how you're finding
hope and validation and that you're not crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know. First of all, thank you for sharing your story.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I remember that open winfy because I'm originally from Chicago,
so i grew up with Jimmy Jones and I've been
to the Jimmy Jones Show, in the opraenh Wiffy Show,
so I know exactly what you needed, what you're saying.
I think the most amazing thing is that back then
that you're right, there was no social media, so everything
was truly round work and you know, just doing that.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I remember back then. I remember looking at.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
That episode, and I think at that time, I was
probably like maybe twenty maybe twenty twenty years old, and
I remember wanting implants myself because I was excuse me,
I was in the Itty bd TD committee is what
I called it, you know, and I wanted to you know,
me having rerest would make me feel like a woman,
you know, that's what we think that eating brest implants

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says And I remember, matter of fact, after that, after
Oprah Winfrey show, and you were talking about it in
the Jimmy Jones Show, I was talking about it. That's
when they really started to take things just little serious.
Because remember they had banned and removed the silicon breast,
you know, out of it. So by the time I
decided fast forward ten years later, they only was doing

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sailing and I had gotten a salen after my second day,
after my second child, was when I decided to have
the sailine. And I remember sitting in that and I'm
asking all of the questions to make sure that I
was not going to become sick or you know, and
he was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
No, everything is good. You know.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
The philopons have gone on and you know they're working
on something to bring it back, you know, but this
is what we had and that's the So now fast
forward ten years later, another ten years I replaced my
and now I'm replacing my I've been talked in through
giving the pilicon and because it looked as they were saying,

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for my career, it looked more natural, you know, So
I'm thinking, Okay, is this good is everything. Oh yeah,
everything has to have you. So I'm like, Okay. Then
all of a sudden, when I was pregnant with my
last friend, that is when I really became really in
not understanding exactly what it was.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
And I love that you listen to your body. I didn't.
I kept going and didn't you know. And what I
do love about it that it's all tiny. That then
when you.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Realized what was going on and you were saying that
was just you building your momentum.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
So when run social media came, this is where you
are able to truly grow and blossom.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
And now not only that, but also every.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Other woman that has that like minded and we can
no longer be gaslighted by you know, the sturgeon.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
What I love about what you all are doing over
there Emprior.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
And doctor Sue is because doctor Sue said I would
no longer put in place into women.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
First, do no harm.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, I mean, there's no denying it. When you see
these women that are so very sick, and you see
when with the proper removal they get better. Now, everybody's
journey is different. Sailing implants. I know we have talked
about it. Sailing implants and faulty belves some of our
sickest women have saving implants. But there's hope, you know,

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And there is no doubt that this is very real,
and we need to keep doing things like this, and
we need to keep talking about it, you know, and
and and let's think about that the last thing. We
want to think that it's our breast implants. By the
time the women get around the phone with me, they've
done better research than the FBI. They have exhausted everything.

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They have went to you know, conventional try to change
their diet. They tried working out, and you know, I'm
going to make myself well. They went to holistic right,
trying to try to make changes and help, and all
they're really doing is keeping their head above water. You know,
I'm just going to keep my head above water and
see if I can. And women are so strong and resilient,

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you know, and their fighters and their moms and their
you know, their wives, and it's just the last thing
until something pops up or through God giving God, they
just can no longer deny that there's a good chance
of their sick So, you know, it really is that
I have a moment and coming to terms that I

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don't want to live the rest of my life like this,
you know. So you know my mission is hopefully to
try to help save one moment and that woman will

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save somebody else. In a perfect world, would I like
to see these band mm hmm, yeah, But right now
we have to save the women that they either are
coactive and realize they need to do this before they
get sick, or they're sick and help them realize that

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they're not crazy, or to save this next generation, these
next generation implants, these gummy bear implants are probably the
most toxic INSI we have to see if a one
calls me and she says she's only had them for
a year or two, I will say, do you have
gummy Bear? When they say yes, thereas they are taking
these girls down so early and that it is kind

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of a double edged sword, I'm almost grateful, as silly
as this sounds, so they don't suffer for decades. We
just planted a seventy eight year old beautiful soul that
have her influence for forty two years, and it's been
sick half her life. They were both double ruptured. The
bottom line is there's not one study that produves these

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implants are sick. There's not one study. There's hundreds of
studies to show them. So we can go back and
forth and we can fight with the doctors and you know,
them saying there's no scientific data. You know what, you
and I were the science. They don't want to find
the clients. We were up against one of the one
of the most powerful financial, financial powerful industries. So you know,

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we're up against a giant with our voices and doing
things like this and spreading the word and having women,
you know, join the front line.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
This is not okay.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
I can't tell you the messages I get. I just
got one, and so what do I need to do?
What do I need to do? How do I get
my voice out there? We have a patient that got reimplanted,
so kind of what you said, when you get reimplanted,
it's like opening up Pandora's box. This actually get worse
because your body sees it says, oh wait, you know
here it is. There's another phone invader. So this actually
heightened when the women do it, you know, at exchange.

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So that's important, you know. So it really is just
bringing awareness. You know, women deserve to know the truth.
You know, these implants are toxic. You know, there's over
forty different chemicals sitting on our most vital organs, our lungs,
in our hurt. What could possibly go wrong? You know,
lead for male to hide mercury. I mean, right there,

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The stupidest word that I use sometimes is well, duh,
what do we think is going to happen?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
You know?

Speaker 4 (19:21):
So you know, I truly believe it some time in
my life, these will be banned again. It happened once,
you know, I have to you know, I'm going to
try not to. I get all fire up when we
talk about this. You know, if somebody, I'm going to
say it, if somebody, I'm just saying, if somebody practics

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themselves from E coli, from let us the one person
the FDA recalls it in one support group, one support group.
Right now, there's almost over two hundred thousand sick women
and there's two hundred and fifty support grooms. How many
is it going to take before the FDA stands up

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and protects the women?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Many?

Speaker 4 (20:04):
So we should be outraged, we should be angry, but
we need to channel that because it becomes overwhelming, and
then how do you help one moment at a time
with that capacity. So how we do it is we
plant scenes and you're doing and we talk about it.

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I can't tell you how much I appreciate you, the
the the insight that you have and the women that
you're going to reach that maybe today don't even know
that they're said, and you may right now. You're going
to be their lifeline. And that's how we're used and are.
I truly believe I was spared as a vessel. And
when you're spared as a vessel, you listen to what

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your confident is. So it's so humbling, uh when the
women feel the connection, and it's so humbling because I
always feel so many times why was I chosen?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
You know.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Why he was chosen? So I'll never take that for
granted and I will always use it as a platform
for gratefulness and trying to help us money.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Say you know again, let me say this, He knew,
God knew who he was choosing. He chooses us for
a reason to do the work.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I am a part of your assignment. All of the
women that we are a part of your assignment and
your purpose. This is who you are, you know, So
I know sometimes we question, why are why not?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Why not? Why not use that amazing voice.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
In that heart that was given to you to be
We're supposed to be of service of one another. So
even when I talked to you for the first time,
you said, oh, yeah, we're gonna do a podcast on this,
I'm like, nah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Not sharing this. Was thinking, you know, I'm like, I'm
not gonna share it like that, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Gonna share this with you. A few weeks ago, I
came home from vacation, thought I was getting ready to
do some work, you know, some amazing things, and my
body is shut down on me entirely. But my body
is shut down on me entirely because I needed to
be still. I needed to be still to listen to
what my next move was supposed to be. In July,
I had already a whole different series that's going on there,

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and it was like, no, you need to be talking
about the very journey that you're going on. Now.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
You're talking about rebirth.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
You're talking about removing objects or just out of your
body so you can be more connected spiritually, so you
can be whole.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Why are you talking about that? Then you say you
wanted to be able to reach women and other different way.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
And then I was at my altar and I said, okay,
I said, okay, I said, I'm going to write law
a letter and I'm going to see she will join
me on this stage here, and if I can, you know,
put it out to you know, to the women out there,
because our voices do need to be all of us
to give.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Even though we made the decision.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
To put these form things that we can't be ashamed
of that we And that's what one thing that I
want to do is and courage the women to not
be ashamed of the choices that they made, but to
embrace them.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
And you don't ask learning lessons for other people that
educating one another, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Right now, we've been taught that our bodies are not
good enough, you know, and we gotta flip that. We
have to flip that in every voice, no matter what color,
what cre what background that we come from, we need
to stand up for one another. We need to be
in service to one another. So again I thank you

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for not only sharing your story but also me the
one that was right there in the front line. Well
what nobody listen, you know, and just to still ending
it for thirty three years. That's amazing, you aim your host.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
That is amazing. That is amazing. It is Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
I didn't know you were gonna make me cry. I
didn't know what were we talking my journey. I don't
know that it was such a cry baby. You know
what I say, just to recap what you just said.
I always tell the women we need to forgive ourselves
and what we do. That's when the healing starts. The
minute I talk to these beautiful souls and they have
so much guilts, the money, What am I putting my

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family through? There's so and right away, right away, just
stop breathe and forgive yourself what you did not know
and do it today and then take charge.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Know what you do right.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
You were not given informed consent, you were not given
informed choice, and that happened. Oh I knew this was
going to happen, you know, but they weren't. So that's
we just need to move on and put that aside
and strive forward.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, so, what would you say?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
There are the common barriers that prevent women from trusting
themselves when it comes to their head.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
It's you know what's getting the way of their in
and know.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
You know, I think the insecurities, what will they look like?
Am I still going to be attractive? Will my husband
still love me? I'm out in the daily field?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Who love me?

Speaker 4 (25:26):
I mean, there's so many things, and I think number
one is probably insecurities.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I fear.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
I always say, fear is a liar. It's the fear,
It's the what if? What if I don't get better?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Right?

Speaker 4 (25:38):
What if I spent all this money? So what I
usually say, because I you know, I'm on the phone
souls every day. And the what is when I say,
but what m hmm?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
What if you do?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
You've exhausted everything? So it's like you need to trust.
And I always say it's that little devil, right, you
got the angel mu and then the devil say, you
don't want to do this this, You're not going to
get any better and what are you going to look like?
Nobody's gonna love you? And you go back to the
insecurity is of why you got them, and that's where
the gas lighting is in and that's where too many

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surgeons are able. So, oh, you're going to be deforred.
You don't want to get right. We do want to
get rid of them. You know what I mean, and
then they go back to that to that woman that
they look we're likes right, and the gas lighting is
just like, blows my mind that's going on until the
women found as they know something's done right. And by
groups and women talking and seeing that, oh my gosh,
this is this is me. I could have written that story.

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And that's when they get there. They get the power back. Yeah,
and they're able to stand up and say I am
more than this. I am more than this, you know,
and let's really talk about this, right. We get them
to feel sexual and and we're so sick. Yeah, like
what a not see more?

Speaker 8 (26:49):
Right?

Speaker 4 (26:51):
We lose our sector sex drive. They hurt too bad,
don't touch them. Beetle's gone are They're painful all the time.
So it's kind of like, well, I'm having these now
for somebody else's pleasure when I no longer feel the
connection even to talk about her heart the heart, you know,
hug somebody and feel their soul. And I'm a huge hugger.

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I believe in you know, and so many women. I
can actually feel my baby's hurt, you know, the first
time I held my husband and I can feel his heart.
So there's so many pieces to this puzzle. So you know,
I truly believe the insecurities. But if we could have
a conversation with our younger self and right, that conversation

(27:35):
would be so different. We would say, I'm so sorry
I didn't love you the way they should have. When
I the day I had my own anstry, would I
apologize to my chest? I said, I am so sorry
I did this too, you know. And what we say
to ourselves and the mind, body and soul, we could
talk about that, right, the mind, body and soul. The
women have got to be head spaces. I almost know

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the women that are going to do well and the
women it for one, if they have support of their spouses,
it's huge, right, and just being in a God space.
And you know, there's a lot that there's a lot
of onions that need to be peeled away for this
stuff to be really positive.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, you know when when we talk about this, one
thing that I talk about with doctor Will, Doctor Will
is my resident thelypis.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I have them on every.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Monday, And so when I had mentioned to him that
I was doing this series, he said, amazing, Right, I'm
on it.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'm with it. And one of the things that we
talk about is making a choice to make that life
changing decisions you know, from them, and about asking yourself
these certain questions, what are your intentions behind doing this?
You know, why am I doing this?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
And you have to answer those questions, those questions that
you ask yourself. You have to be real and answer
those questions. Is that aligned with your body and who
you are and what to do in a life you know?
Or is it just for external validation?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:10):
You know, yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's a really
good point because you know, we can do what we
do on our end as far as making sure it's
a proper removal, give the women that we chance to
feel better physically, but mentally we are you know mentally
what what work have they done on themselves? There's almost
like a whole again, a whole piece of the puzzle

(29:31):
that needs to be addressed for the mental aspect. You know,
they know they want to feel better, but there's that whole.
But I already didn't feel good about myself the way
I look. And that's the beauty of what doctor su does.
Also he cares about what they look like, so that
there's a double bonus there also, so there needs to
be innerhealing that is just as important as.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
The yeah, yeah, you're exactly, you are right.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
And when I'm sitting here right now and I'm thinking, like,
how did you not think just at selling myself? Why
did you think that you were just going to get
past your line without really talking about it?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
You know because the season and stuff, Well, this is
what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
The healing that having that intimate relationship with yourself and
you get ready to go through a life change and
experience and you didn't think it was Yeah, I think.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
You kind of like, again, it was the devil working
on you. But you don't really to expose yourself that way.
I mean, we're talking about our brests, right, You're coming
out through the world and saying, yep, I have brust,
you know, and and is is some people feel that
it's like so embarrassing and what are people gonna think?
But the fact that you're going to be able to
touch so many women, somebody is going to know somebody

(30:45):
that knows somebody. It's just like grages. I mean, I'm
telling you put your seatfelt, girl, and put your seatbelt on, girl,
because you are you are definitely going to be part
of this amazing movement, there's no doubt in mind.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. I just
have a few more questions.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
How can patients develop a better relationship with their health
care providers? And what should we look for in a
medical profession who truly listens in?

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Okay, Well, and the one thing I have to say
is women have an incredible guide and intuition. If there's
a red flag, they could feel it.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Right.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
So I have patients to say I knew the minute
he started talking that this was not the right doctor
for me, going in with going in with the information,
there's enough out there, you know, there's studies out there.
If as far as an explant surgeon, are you talking
about just overall we're just bringing up the conversation about something.

(31:51):
Usually it's like, oh, there's no science behind that. I
don't think it's a thing. So at that point, either
either looking for validation from picking the right surgeon, which
is going to be you know, obviously getting in the
groups listening to two surgeons that do believe you know,
if they're not, if they if they still put brest
on plants in, don't even make it. How can you

(32:14):
believe in this and still put them in. That's number one.
Number one, you can't. There's just other people may feel differently.
Absolutely not absolutely not. Another is we can get deeper
into the scar capsule. Body glows the scar capsule. The
scar capsule has to be removed. If a surgeon says
it doesn't, not the right surgeon for you. So on

(32:35):
the aspect of that and then the other end. What
I always tell the women that when they get their
implants out and they start feeling better, go back to
the medical community. Go back because it's our job to
help educate them too, right, because they're never going to
forget al Laura or Naomi. They're never going to forget
who you are. Right, So the next time another NAMA

(32:56):
walks in, they'll be like, I remember this one once.
They know how do they ever run? Know they took
an out? How do they sleep at night?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Right?

Speaker 4 (33:04):
So what we need to do is help educate the
medical that they recognize this illness. And I get very
frustrated when they say, well there's no science. Do the work.
Just like, if you care enough about your patients, look
up for ust and flanellness. It's a real thing, and
at least educate yourself. But I feel they have to

(33:26):
just stay in their lane. You know, it's very much
of a brotherhood, and they just have to stay in
their lane. So, you know, I think the women the
best thing is do their homework, educate themselves. They can
help educate the medical community. And know when you go
talk to a classic surgeon, you'll know, you'll definitely know
what is the right choice for me, because there's no

(33:47):
you're doing this once, right.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, I think that's that's what really stilled me.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Will come in with you, you guys, and bactor Sue
is when he made that declaration and when he said that,
that moved me so much.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
And and if I can tell you how all of
this went down, it was just so aligned, it was
so guided.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
My god, it was just so there and and just
to think of, you know, the two of us right now,
this on the on this podcast and we're talking about it.
As we're talking, I'm like, Okay, this needs to be bigger,
you know, just not this month and bigger. And I
want to talk to you after we get off of here.
But it's like it's something bigger that needs to be
that voices need to be screaming loudly.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
You know, Yeah, that's loudly. And I keep hearing October.
That's all I'm gonna say. I keep hearing October.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I don't know if that's the beginning of when we
should start something in October or something differently need to
happen in October.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
But I'm hearing October.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
And I'm not just saying that because it's my birthday mark,
but I'm saying this, this is what it should be.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I think October is rest cancer Awareness month. It is so.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Where I'm gonna go with us. And it's so funny
you're saying this. Doctor Sue continues to see breast cancer
survivors that are now VII. We probably get two or
three a week that are now so sick of their
custom plants and they're now going and happy aesthetic flat
closure by doctor Sue so and they're paying cash because
it Yeah, so think about that, they are doing their homework.

(35:21):
They are now sicker from their breast implants than they
were from their cancer. And I mean those are our
santus basis. I mean, either way it was a choice.
It was, you know, not an important choice that you
were cosmetic. But you have women that have already overcame
cancer and now are being taken down by.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
The rest of plants.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
So it's funny you're staying in October because it's and
now they're standing up. We have a woman, she's a nurse,
and she's a breast cancer survivor, and she is out
of her mind. She's like, you gotta be kidding, like
this is happening, Like I didn't know this, Nobody told
me this, and these women you know, she got her
implants four years ago. This is like some thing wait

(36:00):
before anybody knew, you know. So we're putting cancer causing
agents because now it's known that all stock capsules have
the potential of causing cancer, all of them, not just texture,
and we're putting them in a woman that's over hum answer,
how makes that make sense? So October, there may be
a real good reason that you know, we need to

(36:22):
come together, cosmetic breast cancer survivors, that we need to
come We're going to be so much stronger together. So
maybe that that here in the background is standing up
and that's always got saying okay, there's something here. So
we'll definitely talk about this podcast that to see if
we can make this combine this this movement.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, all right, So I want to just real quickly
because we almost at a time you know, for me
getting prepared at any woman that I've already decided Okay,
this I'm going to do that, I'm going to take
to explain I'm surgery everything. How can we prepare them
for what is the preparation for them to get there
physically emotionally or let's go one to three, one to

(37:06):
three one physically emotionally.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, you know, I think again being in a good
head space, A lot of times I'll call the women
to pause, Pause the big groups, pause the support groups
because everything you know, if you're using doctor suit is
your surgeons stay in that space only because you're going
to get so much and that's where the devil's really
going to feed on it, because it's going to be like,

(37:30):
well this happened to you know, this surgery is very
surgeon specific. So it's good to stay in the lane
of the surgeon you're going to and stay within that
support group for support and guidance. You know, prepare yourself mentally,
prepare yourself physically with you know, items that we'll talk about.

(37:55):
You know, I think that's probably more the physical and
the mental. You know, we say lymphatic massages before we
get to open up that the lymp system is a
beautiful machine. God made us a beautiful machine, right and
they'll work beautifully if we're notting it. So lymphatic massages.
We need to be booping, We need to be being
you know, we need to work on our body heal

(38:17):
and then possibly some detax down the road. But nothing
like too crazy because women are like, oh what can
I do? Sometimes it's it's too much. Stay out of
saunas day asaunas. If you're a breast of plans. We
don't want to heat those impens on exactly and exactly well,
women don't know that because right why I want to detox.
I'm going to fix myself up and to get better.
That's great after once you feel, but stay out of

(38:39):
the sauna.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
To stay on the sauna.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
So you know, surround yourself with kindness, Surround yourself with
people that support you, Surround yourself with people that make you,
you know, turn off the negativity of the world. Listen
to music that makes sure very happy and our talk.
Listen to beautiful souls like that gives you guidance and
grounds us. I mean the fact that what you did before,

(39:05):
I can't tell you the piece that that brought me
to be able to God has an amazing way of
offering my soul. When I thought about this, it's usually
a little we had some hiccups, me technically challenged, and
just being able to do that when it's go time.
I know, if we just speak with women are going
to hear our hearts. Yeah, and they're gonna feel validated

(39:29):
and supported. And I think that's all we can keep
doing and build, keep building this army, keep doing what
we're doing.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, you know that's that's that's beautiful, It really is.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
You know, when I think about us being in service
to one another, you know from my that ground, you know,
I have most unane that's around surrounding me, and I've
always wanted to know how can I truly be of
service to other women and and you know, where can
they truly resonate with me from? And when I look

(40:05):
at everything from me being in an adult industry, coming
out and you know, creating these podcasts and doing so
many different things, it's on the line just right.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Scott's yeah, all the whole way. Yeah, and I love it.
I love that even through.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
The podcast, even me now I've been on the original
to be I I've been there for like five or
six years on that platform looking and this particular Sunday,
I don't even know where. I was at my altar
looking for music, and your your you popped up. You

(40:49):
was answering someone question. You was answering someone's question on
there underneath their block, and I read your message about
doctor Sue or where you were at, and that cause
me to go over there.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
So it wasn't like I was looking for anything.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I'm looking for music to be a part of my
you know, of my session that morning, and that's when
I sit there like.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
And then when I talked to you and were talked,
and it was just so oh my god, it was
just such a connection. You know. I had knew then
even though I wanted to honor, you.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Know, my appointment with the other doctors, I knew I
was like no, And then I sat and talked to
doctor Suit and I went looking them up and I said,
I said, oh no, thank you, thank you, God, thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
You know, because not only.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Am I going back home to remove the very things
that I put into my body. This is just a
whole completion. And if the way that I feel right
now that I can possibly give that to someone else,
sign me up.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Yeah, yeah, all of a sudden and that's you know,
like you said, God has set up this platform every
step in the way, every single step in the way.
That popping up that was not just by accident.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
There's it was.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
It was all timing. It was like, okay, it's time.
Now we're going to use you. So now you are
part of the vessel. Yeah, you are part of the vessel.
And yeah, I there at times it's like so overwhelming,
Like you know, no matter how people believe or believe
it or higher or not, how can we not know

(42:25):
that there's something very spiritual that happens with with finding
out that you're sick and knowing that there's hope and
finding out that there's others just like I mean, we
can't I spend more time shaking my ead. I'm like, okay,
I hear you. How many times you have to be
nudged in the head, right, And I think that's where

(42:46):
you know, so many whom are like I can't, I
can't deny it anymore. It's time, you know, And I'm like, okay,
there's they'll be beautiful souls that for two years. I'll
just call and I'll just let them know I'm thinking
about that. You know, this is so not sales for me.
I don't have to sell anybody anything. I really think
as women, we can feel each other's soul and if
you speak from your heart, that's that's it.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
You know.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
I always say to do the right thing, and the
money you'll call money means said, be a good human,
do the right thing. And you know that's how we
have to live our life and be able to listen
and hear right like you that day you have the
ability to hear it that right there is a gift.

(43:31):
And that's when you realize that you're being used for
a column. Yes, okay, this just didn't.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Just happen, all right, So let me pause here for
a moment because I know throughout the recording of this
episode that you heard a lot of static or a
lot of interjecting with the energy. I want to explain
something to you all. Is when it was so hard

(43:57):
to edit this, but I also knew that I needed
to have this episode out. It was so much amazing
energy that was going between myself and Laura that energetically
with the computers, with the Internet, with the whole system.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
It was so hard. So on this next.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
When I unpositive excuse me, and I know this is
not professional, but we're being real here. When when I
go in to allow the other one, there might be
a slight volume shift when it comes to listening to
the rest of the show. But again, I thank you
so much all for just sitting and listening thus far

(44:45):
and just continue to support us here at the season
and self love all right. Now back to Laura.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Yeah, so I'm hold and I'm honored that I was
able to if she goes again, make a difference in
your life. God lead you to one of those fabulous surgeons.
I have blushed, just standished, and it's humbling, but I'm grateful.

(45:13):
I'm very grateful.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, thank you, truly, thank you, because you live, you
you paid attention to your body. Your awareness was was
amazing then and it's amazing now. And you're being obedient,
you know, being obedient, and.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
That's one of the most amazing things for us to
surrender and be obedience and allow God to use them
as his will because we are all me souls it's
just you. You had the courage to say okay, and
then I can't forget about your husband because I know
my husband is very supportive and without.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
That, oh yeah, yeah, I kept a little bit of
a funny little story really quick. So we have a
patients from Australia. She's coming from Australia and she's like, no,
I just know a strength and like, come on right,
and she's like everything I've seen, the videos I've seen

(46:13):
kind of the same thing. And she was flying here
from Australia and we were kind of like, you know,
and literally two days ago, I told my husband, oh, honey,
by the way, she's gonna stay with us upstairs. As
we speak, she's we're housing her. And my husband's like okay,

(46:34):
and yeah, I mean who does that? I mean, he's
the most beautiful I would have got you without him
and his support that he's had. And he believed me,
you know. And I talked to so many women who's
the husbands don't believe them, And that's where I always
go if there's anybody out there that the husband's like,
this is nothing, because for whatever reason, doctors are saying
it's not watch the documentary that is quite eye opening.

(46:58):
Watch it with your huppy. It will all make it
make sense. It shows the history of how we were
talking about implants since the nineties. Not only is my neurologist,
doctor Panton featured in it, where she's just part he's
the one that they destroyed his career. I humbly up
the Oprah video. They did use the interview the open,
which I didn't know, so you can imagine me watching
it seeing use me anyway that you need to go

(47:22):
any if anything, if anybody's really questioning what's going on
with this whole implant industry, watch that for their husband.
But yes, the support of your spouse is this could
have been a different story for me. He don't want
me to get him in the first place, but that's
a whole other story. So yeah, that's that's really important

(47:42):
to have that kind of support. And I'm beyond grateful.
We've been together for forty four years and I can't
imagine my life with copy.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
That's beautiful. You know, you keep saying the I'm sorry,
you keep saying the.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Documentary. Please tell everyone where can they see the documentary?

Speaker 4 (48:06):
So it's literally just called ex plant. You can get it.
I believe on Paramid Plus. Okay, possibly Netflix. I'm not
one hundred percent sure on that, but I do know
Paramount Plus you can even do like a trial. You
might have to sign up for it. But where it's
it's mind going, it's basically tells you the corruption breathe
behind the industry. I'm just going to say, I'm just

(48:29):
gonna say it. There's a you know, money is a
very powerful motivator.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Had this been a man's issue, do you think we'd
still be talking about this. That's for other podcasts, Yeah, yeah,
it is. It is. It's very on women's insecurities and
social media and tiktoks and what we should look like
and what we should be like. So that's a whole
another which I'm sure you touch on that as far

(48:59):
as you know, with women in sexuality. So mm hmm.
If this would be a whole we would not be
having this conversation.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Though if it was, we will not. Hm.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Well, you know what, Lord, we have come to the
end of our end of our show. I don't know,
I had so many more questions for you, so I
will definitely be having that go. Like I said, we're
gonna talk we're gonna we're gonna talk some more. Yeah,
but you know what, before I want to do this,
I want to do a closing out.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Meditation. This is what I'm just doing in the month
of July.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I think it's something that we truly need to do
to just have continue to encourage us to stay grounded,
to stay spiritually connected. If not anything to our because
you just take a moment right now, if you could
just close your eyes and get nice and comfortable.

Speaker 8 (49:48):
Put your hands on your heart and takes great deeper
now for your heart beating stead Philly, that's keeping you alive.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
Moment, my mom. Now ask your body, what do you
need me to know right now? Don't think about the answer,
Just listen with your whole being. Maybe it's a gentle
message about rest or movement or seeking support, or maybe

(50:28):
it's encouragement about a decision that you're facing. Whatever arises,
receive it with gratitude. Your body is always speaking to
you with love, always guiding you towards your highest And

(50:49):
say silently to your body, thank you for your mess.
I promise to listen. I promise to honor what you
are telling me, and take one multi breath then now
carry this commitment with you into you and when you

(51:12):
are ready, gently open your eyes.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
All right, beautiful people, against thank you for just sharing
that space with me at this time. And again, Laura,
thank you so much. And I'm going to definitely have
you back home. Are there any last words that you
want to leave with our listeners?

Speaker 4 (51:34):
You know, if there's women out there, I mean, I
don't know if you could put my contact, I am
more than happy to talk anytime of the day twenty
four seven. People kind of tease me about that, but
it is because of a woman then, as at nine
o'clock at night. So yeah, just be strong, know that

(51:56):
you're not crazy, and there is.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Home, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Thank you, thank you, And to my listeners again, I
want to just thank you guys for just joining me
on this journey, just allowing me to just be so real,
raw and uncovering again.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Continue loving on yourself, continue loving on yours, and I
will see you tomorrow. Have an amazing, amazing day.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Thank you, Thank you for joining us on this journey
of discovering and empowerment here at the Season and Self
Love Podcast. Remember, embracing self love is a continuous journey,
and we're so glad to have you with us, So
if you enjoy today's episode, please leave us a review

(52:41):
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are also on their self love journey. Now. If you
have any questions or topics that you'd like for us
to explore, we love to hear from you. Email us
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let your voice be heard. So until the next time,

(53:02):
take a moment for yourself today and remember you are
worthy of love, joy, and all the beautiful things that
life has to offer.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
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