October 31, 2025 • 42 mins
The Shabby Detective closes out Season Six with “The Bye-Bye Sky High I.Q. Murder Case,” a murder most cerebral — and a little bit silly. When genius accountant Oliver Brandt (Theodore Bikel) kills his embezzling partner at an exclusive Mensa-like club for the gifted, Columbo wanders into a den of self-proclaimed intellectuals armed only with a cigar and a rumpled raincoat. The result? A battle of wits where the lieutenant’s “low” IQ proves a lot more useful than anyone expects. Mike and Chris puzzle through the episode’s uneven tone, bizarre musical choices, and one of the show’s strangest final acts.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to the Shabby Detective, yet another Columbo podcast. I'm
your host Mike White, and joining me, of course, is
mister Chris Tashue.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
They call me Bye Bye sky Hi, I you Murder Case.
The name of the episode just makes me laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
The long name, Bye Bye sky Hi. So we had
we didn't have a break, but Colombo had a little
bit of a break. Old Fashioned Murderer came out November
twenty eighth, nineteen seventy six. This came out May twenty second,
nineteen seventy seven. I think that was like right around
(01:00):
the time, but Star Wars was released. If memory serves,
that might have been the twenty fifth. Goddamn long long time.
A lot of things were happening behind the scenes over
at Colombo. They were trying to get at least two
more episodes after Old Fashioned Murder, but they just got
the one. They have a new showrunner, I believe at
this point. Interesting choice of directors. Sam Wanamaker, who is
(01:25):
mostly known for being an actor, but here he is directing.
He's directed before, actually was blacklisted and moved over to
England when the blacklist was happening. Worked a lot with
the Globe Theater over there did a lot of Shakespeare's stuff.
I'm wondering if maybe that's where Samantha Egger comes into
this episode. They might have worked together over there. She's
(01:48):
as British as they come. Theodore Bichael as Oliver Brandt
Austrian actor, but he has gotten around quite a bit.
I think somewhere around this time is when he was
he was Meyer and Darker than Amber, the one that
stars Rod Taylor. Yeah, I thought he did a great
job as Meyer. You know, I'm bored the what was it?
(02:10):
The Keynes that was the book next door to Travis
McGee's boat park there anyway, the Busted Flush Jesus, Why
aren't we watching all of the movies that were based
on John D McDonald books, Oh, because there's only fucking two.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
There was that one that was going to be with
Johnny Depp, Don't forget Johnny Depp was Johnny Depp was
going to do one for like a million years, Leo
d Leo DiCaprio.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
At one point it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Was Chrissy b Robert Downey Junior, oh R DJ, but
Chrissy b was also in there. Christian Bale was also
in there as well.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, imagine Christian Bantlist, Travis McGee, no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I can't imagine Chris. I mean, Christian Bale is just
like so singular and you know, can I ask you something?
And you know, like this is a little bit of
a digression, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Over a little bit. I think we've already started the
diagram and it's okay, who.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Would you have played Colombo if Colombo were to be
brought back?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh? Mark Ruffalo?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh yeah? Which is one more thing. He's like Joe
Org John c Riley, which I think is you know,
like you know, I mean they sound the same.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Natasha Leone also yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That's I mean, like that's that's not fair because that's
that's so its own thing and so good. It's like,
I mean, I get it. I don't want to call
I don't almost want to say Natasha Leo because I
don't want to call poker face derivative of Colombo because
it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, it's it's it's really good.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, it's so good. Like honestly, I kind of wish
we could cover poker face in a way.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I mean, we could always do that. I mean, it's
funny because I think some of the people that do
Colombo podcasts beside ours, because there are a lot. I
think some of those guys are doing poker face, which
is funny.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I mean, it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But meanwhile, we're stuck all the way back here. Season six,
episode three, the final episode of seasons And just so
you know, Chris, this is the episode that inspired me
to do this entire show because I was listening to
a podcast about this episode and there's the moment when
(04:14):
the character Susie comes over when there's one of the
accountants who's at a singles club and Susie comes up
and she goes.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Hi, Hi'm Susie. Hi Susie.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I've tried essling, primal screen, pyramid power, sending on a
black Mass in San Francisco, open marriage, Yes, da DM,
I'm okay, You're okay, and I'm still a target.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
The guys who were hosting that podcast had no fucking
idea what she was talking about. They had no idea
what self help back in the nineteen seventies was like
this whole quest for spiritualism and all this kind of stuff.
And I heard that. I was just like, fuck, these guys,
I need to be talking about Columbos.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh wow, so you had like a father Malone moment,
is what you're saying basically, yeah, yeah, yeah, fmm, where
it's like this thing is this pushes this pushed me
to the brink where I'm just like, I must, I
must do something about this now. But yeah, Father Malone,
our dear friend always talks about listening to bad podcasts
and being driven crazy by it because they don't do
(05:26):
any research, Like how do how do you not know
about that? In the seventies, like that's I mean to
be fair, if you go to Sedona, Arizona, it's still
that way right now.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Written by Robert Malcolm Young. This was kicking around a while.
There were a couple of different script ideas that were
out there, and they ended up going with this one.
Changed it quite a bit from the original concept to
what we ended up with, but basically we have murder
at a mensa club. And I have to say I
(05:56):
was really studying how this episode is shot when I
was rewatching it the other day. This episode is shot
like a horror movie. Most of there are a lot
of the time, especially with the stuff around the sky
High IQ Club what they called the Sigma Club here,
not mensa, but Sigma, and when the whole episode starts
(06:19):
with a car out on a street and then you
get this hand grabbing the doorknob of this house and
pulling it open. You just get to see the hand
and that he's holding an umbrella, and then you see
all these shots from like outside of the room where
I think Kenneth Mars is talking, and like curtains are
in the way a little bit. Things are very obstructive.
(06:41):
It's basically Michael Myers at the beginning of Halloween, like
looking around the house and stuff, and that kind of
shaky zoom in on Sorel Brook, who is going to
be our victim in this episode. Second time we've seen
Sorrel Brook, by the way, last time we saw him,
he was Johnny Cash's manager wearing those amazing big round
(07:03):
tinted lenses and he's like in the corner of the frame,
like very big, and so seeing him here as this
much more meek and demure character, and especially after I
grew up with him as Boss Hog, where he has
just fucking balls out all the time, I couldn't believe
for years that Thorlbrook was both of those people, that
(07:26):
he was this guy as well as boss Hog.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes, I was also surprised to learn that because he
is not playing that in this episode at all. Was
it with the tickling that was so weird? A man? Well,
other than do you tickle the ivories? Do you tickle
the funny bone?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
No? No, neither. I haven't played piano in a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Tickling the date five yard penalty, first down? I don't
get it. It's so bizarre, like he just starts going damn.
I'm like, what is he gonna start choking? I was like, no,
it's just like this in a really homo erotic way,
like you're putting your hands on another man. I'm not
saying it don't but like I'm just saying, like I
don't get the optics of it, Like it's such a
(08:14):
specific thing to do that I don't understand why they
did it, because there are all these other things you
could do and that they didn't do that they did
this instead. Why. I just want to know why it
was so.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Soro Brook being famously bald. I mean, you just go
up and start patting his head like the little guy
on Benny Hills show, you know, but yeah, it's it's
very strange. I read the woods X right up on it,
and he's pretty down on this episode. He's just like, Yeah,
the mystery isn't there. It's not that great. It's solid
so easily. It's basically Colombo comes in, figures it out
(08:49):
like that, which is pretty typical for Colombo. But he
figures it out like that and basically just bats around
theater Bichel through the entire episode. I can see that.
I kind of agree with that, but at the same
time kind of like it. And there's a lot of
aspects of this episode I like, and there's a lot
of episodes aspects that I dislike. But I'm curious, Chris,
(09:11):
having been a first time viewer, what's your take on
this episode.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I feel like I've seen it before. It reminded me
of the Robert Kulp episode at the Other Institute. That's
not the Mensa one. It reminded me of that where
it's like this guy who's such an asshole and hates
everybody else, and everybody else kind of hates him, and
he's I mean, in that one, it's just like kind
of an ego thing or is he blackmailing people? I
(09:36):
forget what it is in now when he's blackmailing people
right this one. There's no blackmail. It's just like I
am embezzling money, which, by the way, what a good
word for stealing money from a company?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Embezzle? You make so much and scrabble with that one.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
He's embezzling money. But the way you gel sorrow Brook
is so fucking awful shoots him point blank twice, which
with a silence revolver, which I'd like to point out
once again, revolvers don't work.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Though. Whenever I say a silence revolver, I'm just like,
Chris is gonna go crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Okay, I've come to accept it. Okay, okay, yeah every time. Well,
because on top of everything else, like when you're using
a revolver, that's not how this works. But here's the thing,
Like I say that because part of the episode is
about them hearing it. So it's like, don't draw attention
to the fact that you have this contrivance in your episode,
a silence revolver on top of everything else, like it
(10:28):
could have been like a silent semi automatic pistol, like
this is seventy seven. But it's very it's very weird
because the noises end up being part of the way
the episode is solved. I want to lay out how
he gets caught, and you tell me if I interpreted
this correctly. Since you're asking as a first time viewer,
Colombo knows it's him.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Colombo catches him because Colombo knows that by pretending like
he doesn't understand how things are happening, this guy will
more than likely step in and correct him. And then
he baits him in with it by being like, oh,
the guy who did this must have been a bubbling moron,
like and he's like, I am not a moron, Like
(11:08):
you're describing this guy to be an idiot. Here's the
thing I don't understand. What is Columbo using to catch him?
The record? Is it the marker falling? Because this is
like circumstantial, beyond belief. I'm asking all this because like
this would be this is one of the hardest ones
Columbu would ever have to prove in a court of law.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean other than I have this person's confession,
but there's nobody else there when he gets the confession,
which is the marker? Is the confession right?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
The marker the the oh my, oh my, that's the
confession him being surprised you know that he baited. He
was baited into being so stupid. But it's like, again,
like the thing that I would have a hard time
believing is that they wouldn't just assume it's this guy anyways,
because who else would do it?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Columbo really, rather than it just being the Arker when
he goes into that night club and says, you can't
really get a promotion if you have a criminal record,
and is calling him out right there and then saying,
I know that you were involved in this embestlement. And
(12:18):
I feel that the other guy and the only reason
I'm saying guy rather than their names is because these
two accountants, one who is getting the promotion and the
other one who is now the secretary. Oh my god,
a male secretary. Oh my god, Oh oh, what the
hell's going on here?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Nurse?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Oh what a male nurse? No, no, you can't have that.
What the hell? And he's straight having those two characters,
and I think, what onence Arthur and the other one's
George or something. I'm just like, I'm having the worst
time keeping these two apart their names anyway, their face
is not so much, and that they're both seventies dudes,
(13:02):
you know, hanging out at this place and like, all right, great,
So anyway, I think Columbo would get him from that
rather than from the marker. But the thing, and I
don't think it's Columbo is saying that whoever did this
was an idiot. I think he's saying that the other
people have helped him figure this stuff out. And Bichael
(13:27):
as Brand, wants to be so smart, he wants to
be the smartest guy in the room, and he can't
stand that there are these other smart people there in
this club. I mean, it's a weird thing that he
you know, it kind of comes in late to the meeting.
At the beginning, he doesn't really mesh with the rest
of the people. He's really just there talking with Bernie
(13:48):
the whole time, and then he's just like he really
just kind of fucks around with these other folks. And
the thing that I wanted from this episode was so
you've got like a like a literal drawing room end
this episode. You've got like the smart girl. You've got
Bernie Koppol You've got sorry, not Bernie basil Hoffman, she says,
(14:09):
you got Kenneth Mars, you got the guy who looks
like who isn't the auto mechanic, because I think that's
Kinneth Mars, but you got the guy who looks like
the auto mechanic, and like the girl comes to Colombo
and says, well, I think that this is what happened,
and she describes something, and then Basil Hoffman comes up
and he's like, oh, well, the weapon had to be
(14:29):
tied with elastic and it shot back up the out
the window window or.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But then like they're actually close with this stuff. And
so what I was hoping was that Colombo is the
one that puts it all together. But I wanted all
of these other geniuses that are hanging out at this
club to all bring a piece to Colombo and for
him to bring the whole thing together and be like
each one of you, like maybe to them or just
(14:59):
to us to the audience, like each one of you
can think of one part of the solution, but it's
really Colombo who's the smart one that brings it all together.
And that he's smarter than Michael in this episode because
he fucking is and he knows that he is. And
that's the thing I like about this episode more than
anything else. And just even if it does have a
(15:20):
weak mystery and everything. I just love this whole idea
of how fucking smart Colombo is and that he's able
to solve all of these puzzles and is able to
solve the puzzle of the murder, and just his whole
thing about you know, Sarah, it's a funny thing.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
All my life I kept running into smart people. I
don't just mean smart like you and the people in
his house, you know what I mean. In school there
were lots of smarter kids. And when I first joined
the for Sir, they had some very clever people there,
(15:59):
and I could tell right away that wasn't easy making
protective as long as they were around.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I figured that.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
If I worked harder than they did, put in more time,
read the book, kept my eyes.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Open, maybe I could make it happen.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And I did.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And I really love my works, I can tell you do.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
There's one thing I learned, Lieutenant, is that we all
have a cross to bear, including those of us who
seem most fortunate.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I love hearing what just a tiny little glimpse into
Colombo's psyche and his reasoning and just how fucking smart
he is.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I agree with you, I mean, Colombo is so shut
off constantly like he's he is again, he seems like
an alien in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He and Arthur Dietrich would get along really well.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Don't you like how the one actor looks either like
William Finley or Arthur pa Trickman. Yes, yeah, depending on
the angle, but he definitely looks almost like he looks
very William Finley adjacent.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
And I was just so sad. So Kenneth Mars is
the guy with the pipe, and he's there at the
opening meeting and he's talking about how he's I think
he is an auto mechanic or something, and he's just
so happy to have people kind of like at his
level to talk with. Kenneth Mars is fucking amazing. I
love that guy. I think he's such a great actor,
and he he was the guy. If the audience doesn't
(17:35):
know Kenneth mars Is by name, think of the gentleman
who wrote the play Springtime for Hitler that was produced
by the self named producers. Think of the guy in
Young Frankenstein who won with the amazingly thick German accent,
with the fake arm that had been ripped off by
(17:57):
the previous Frankenstein Monster that's Kenneth Mars, and I was
just like, oh yeah, I'm here for it. I'm here
for it. But he's fairly in the episode, and he
really doesn't interact with Columbo at all, and I just
wanted that interaction between those two actors.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, no, we don't get enough Kenneth Mars, get enough
Theodore Bikeel though.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, I'm glad that I like him so much, and
he's very compelling to me. I like some of those moments,
like him with that ice cream cone and he's trying
to get rid of some of the evidence, and I
just thought for sure like Columbo was going to be like, oh, sir,
you dropped something or like that. Would that package that
he was trying to hide would come back later on
(18:39):
because you get to see the whole montage of yoh
I put it in the garbage can. I oh now
they're picking it up. Oh oh now they're they're tipping
it into the truck, and oh now the truck is
like crushing it or whatever. It's like you get to
see like all of those things, and each time you
cut back to him and he's just a little bit
more relieved, a little bit more relief and I'm just
(19:01):
waiting for Colombo to like pull that that stuff out
and be like, by the way you dropped this, sorry
you might yes, yeah, you might need this gun.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I do also like how and it's a it's a
hits a sight gag. I know it's not meant to
be funny, but where Sorrel Brooks body was on those
stairs having the body tape.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Shock outline thing.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, yeah, it reminded me of like a naked gun
gag where the body line is floating in the water. Well,
how weird is.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It when Colombo comes in two seconds later that it's
all the smoke from a cigar as he walks in,
I'm like, who directed this? Patrick mcgwynn, Come on, what's
going on here?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Is he in this enough?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I think so? I mean, he doesn't come in in
until after the first commercial break, but he's in there
by what fifteen seventeen minutes something like that?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Seventeen minutes?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, yeah, And I like the way that he goes around,
goes to Samantha Eggar, who is Bichael's wife and this one,
and you know, you can tell that she's got pretty
exorbitant tastes and everything. And I guess that's why he
was embezzling. But I don't know, it didn't feel like
she was. She's definitely not a shrew. She seems like
(20:17):
a nice person, you know. I kind of would have
liked her to have been worse or something, or somebody
who just expects the high life. And like maybe Bichael
had never like he didn't come from money and he
scraped his way up and maybe he's got like more
of a tragic backstory as it is, I don't find
there's not very much to like about Bichael as this character.
(20:40):
He just seems like like he's a criminal and he's
trying to cover up stuff. But that's not it. Like
I don't get a whole lot of like, oh I
care about this person, like the last few villains we've
heard about more I feel anyone Well's I.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Was gonna say, like, I just don't feel that like
interested in his performance, Like he just doesn't jump off
the page.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He was like the fourth choice too for this role.
I can't remember who the other three were, but they
went to a lot of other people before they landed
on him.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, because this episode's not that engaging. It's just not
that interesting, Like it's it is a locked room mystery,
which is fine, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just
this isn't particularly compelling, And I don't want to be
down on the episode, but I did not enjoy this
episode as much as I think this episode wanted me
to enjoy it. You know, there's there, Like you mentioned,
(21:32):
there are some weird things about this episode, Like how
much goddamn smoke Columbo Cigar makes it is absurd, Like
what is it? What do you just have like a
hose in your jacket pocket that you're just shooting smoke
out Like it's it's an absurd amount of smoke. There
are weird things in this episode? Are there? Early on
in the episode, like he opens the door and the
(21:52):
woman's like, I know who did it? Then he closes
the door on her and then Colombo comes in, Like
there are weird things in this episode that don't make
a lot of sense. Those weird things don't make up
for how just I don't know, Like I feel like
we've seen this before and they don't like the mensa
of it all, Like we've already dealt with people that
have these giant egos and they're ego driven and they're
(22:16):
like mego maniacal, Like we've already seen that, and I
don't even I'm not even sure. I would go as
far as to say we haven't seen smart people at
this point anyways. Like most of the people that we've
seen that are committing murders are successful, so they're not dummies.
Most of the time. They're being caught by someone who
is like once again written as and coded as essentially
(22:37):
God tear, Like Colombo is Deus ex machina, like that
is like he's smarter than the script. It's like he
has the script in his back pocket and he's like,
I know you're the killer. I just have to get
to that point. Like that's the like Columbo's written as
a character. I don't understand why they have such a
(22:58):
I don't know, Like this just feels so hodge podge
of other things we've seen before.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Okay, here we go. So before it was Bichael, it
was Peter Eustonov who wanted twenty thousand dollars plus expenses.
NBC said yes, but Ustinov changed his mind and passed.
The producer went to James Mason or Rex Harrison before
they settled on Theodore Bichael. That's from Gaine's book Shooting Colombo,
(23:26):
which is still, for my money, one of the best
Columbo books that you can buy. In this one, he
does talk about some of the other scripts that were
out there. One was an Agatha Christie type playwright who
they wanted Betty Davis to play. I think that'll come
back when we talk about Ruth Gordon, a gourmet cook
who will come back next season as Luis Jordan. And
(23:50):
a psychiatrist played by Hal Holbrook Well. And I don't
know if we have another psychiatrist, because we've already had
two psychiatrists now we had one of the original episodes
was a psychiatrist, and then the George Hamilton character was
kind of a psychiatrist as well.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
So Peter Houston of huh, that would have been interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
This only had twenty two days to shoot. And yeah,
there's a lot of stuff about this new producer. Simmons
was his name, and that he had worked with Fulk
before on Trials of O'Brien. Richard Allen Simmons that is
had worked with him on Trials of O'Brien, And yeah,
(24:31):
I guess Falk trusted him. That was always the whole
thing of who do you trust we'll hear a lot
more about him. But he really wanted to approach the
character in a much different way, almost more of a
magoon way, and I'm just like, please now quit doing that.
So I frankly don't remember a lot of season seven
episodes once we get there, but there are a few
(24:54):
standouts for good and a few standouts for really bad.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Again, well, season six was at least something, not not
sure what, but it was something. I mean. That's that's
the thing about this episode that is such a bummer,
is because the episode is just kind of middle of
the road. And there's only two other episodes this season,
and the first one was good because it was Chattner.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah. I don't know if we would have liked it
as much if it had not been Shatner, but he
we would not say, such a good job.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah no, And that's and that's the thing, Like I
feel like, imagine if it had been Peter euston Off
in this episode, would it have worked better?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah? No, I mean, I can see you stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
This is a year before he plays Poi ro it
would be seventy eight. Well, he played Poio many times,
but I don't think he played pli Row before seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Really okay, because I think so. I'm pretty sure Wannamaker
actually was in one of those with him as an
actor rather than as a director, which.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Was seventy eight is yes, seventy eight is Death on
the nun.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Okay, was in Voyage of the Damned, which was which
one was that for seventy eight Death on the Nile,
Death on the Nile, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Which is the first one. And then he played him
like on TV a bunch of times, like maybe one
other time in a movie maybe.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, yeah, I definitely remember Murder under the Sun, which
was probably my favorite of those paro mysteries, maybe just
because I saw it so many times as a kid,
but I just remember really liking that one a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So it's two movies and three movies and three TV shows,
even Under the Sun, Appointment with Death, Murder on the Nile,
and then Thirteen at Dinner, dead Man's Folly, and Murder
in Three Acts, which is ironic that he would go
and play poar Row on TV.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I never even saw those other ones.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, That's what I was saying, Like, it's a little
I think this would have worked better with Peter Eustadov
because you could have And yes, I know this is
before he plays poi Ro, but imagine if he had
played him in this episode, and then we could look
back on and be like it was Peter Folk and
one of the blav Ro characters opposite one another. It
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takes on a whole different kind of tone and texture
than it does. And again, Theodore Bichael's fine, but that's
about it. He's not given much to do. Like, the
character doesn't jump off the page. He's very much an
amalgamation of a bunch of other characters that we've seen.
He doesn't have as big of a personality. He seems
a little bit more put upon than some of the
other characters, seems more exhausted than the other characters. Like
(27:36):
he's just you know, he's not engaging or interesting. And
that I feel like is a requirement for a villain
in Colombo because they are effectively the main character. Colombo
is the villain, so they need to be engaging and
interesting and they need to hook me in as the viewer,
Like I know what I really think about often like
(27:58):
that Donald pleasant episode for it in any storm that
I mean, it's the best episode. Yeah, Donald Pleasant's character
is a murderer, but you get it like I get it.
I'm like, yeah, I get it, Like I don't agree
with it. I don't like and you know what the
Jose Ferrera episode two, that one where I'm like I
get it, like I get it, like I'm not agreeing
with it, but like I you have gotten me there.
(28:21):
As the screenwriter, our friend Richard always talks about like
you you are taking people with you, like you are
telling them the story. You need to get them to
that point. Like I am on the journey with those episodes,
and it gets me to that point and I put
my trust in the episode and it is well rewarded.
Sometimes with the show that is not the case. This
is one of those episodes where it just is not
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putting its best foot forward. And there's only three episodes
this season, Like what a bummer, Because yeah, even just
a minor change to the casting might have helped. I
don't think it would have fixed everything, but it might
have helped. And my god, Samantha Eggers is like her flips,
her French flip are just out of control, out of control.
(29:03):
So it's French curls or what's that called it's what
it's what Headwig has in the angry Edge.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
It's like a little lake.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, it's the flipout. It's the flipout bangs. Yeah. This
this episode of is so seventies.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It hurts. So what I was thinking of was Albert
Finni playing Hercule Piro and murder on the York Orient
Express in nineteen seventy four. So that's why I was
thinking that Yusinov. I thought that Usinov was playing that
in seventy four. But it's interesting that I think that
he only played Elber Finni, that is, only played him once,
(29:39):
and then Poirot takes over in seventy eight and ends
up playing him all those times. So hashtag not my
poi Ro having Farro versus Colombo. I mean, they couldn't
have sold it that way, but they definitely could have
been the reruns.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'll tell you that, right right exactly, Like that is
my point is like they should have put more effort
into this episode, and it doesn't feel like they did so,
which is fine, but you know, not every episode is
a banger. But we only had three this season, so
come on, one in three, one in three, really, we can't.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Talk about this episode without talking about Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Well, thank you you you beat me, You beat me
to the punch speaking of Donald Lessens so surly. Oh
my god, Well that's the thing. Like the fucking best
part of this episode might be Jamie Lee Gurtis because
you just I'll tell you. I knew she was in
the episode, and when I was watching it, I looked
away for a moment and I like snapped back the
(30:36):
moment I heard her voice, because she just does not
belong in this at all, Like she is so not,
like she is so not the size that this show deserves.
Like she's already like you can already tell she's already,
Like yeah, she's huge already, Like you can tell she
already gets it. Like the way she just interacts with
(30:57):
Glumbo and she's like fuck you, Like I just love
her a little bit in this episode is really good.
It's just you get why Jamie Lee Curtis is still
in movies as recently as like what a week ago
with Freaky or.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Friday Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, literally like still making movies, man like still doing it.
But yeah, she's so good in this episode. Makes a
lot out of a little. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I guess the kids call it ed cannon. My head
canon is Janet L Lee calling up Peter Falk and
be like, hey, Peter, you know I was in that
episode last season. You got a spot for my daughter?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
My daughter, well, I mean at this point, I mean,
at this point, we do know that Peter Falk moves
the needles.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
So yeah, she was great and this whole thing and like, oh,
I brought this donut in the donut and I was
gonna eat it, but just that look on her face,
she is, oh, yeah, she is so great. I mean
it's funny because like normally be like, oh yeah, did
you see you know, Katie Cigal in this episode, or
did you see that person in here? Like let me
(32:01):
just see Jeff goldbloom out protesting and stuff. Jamie Lee Curtis, Yeah,
she's got a couple of lines, but Jesus fucking Christ,
her lines are great and just like the hand on
the hip kind of thing, looking at it at fault,
just like you don't want to mess with this waitress.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
No, nonplus she's not having any of it. And I
love no, I loved it. Jamie Lee Curtis was great.
Like you know, it says it on Wikipedia that she's
in this episode but as a surly coffee shop waitress.
But she is surly, that is for sure. No, she
Jamie the Curtis, I think is you know, I don't
think that this is a controversial opinion. Like she is
(32:39):
a modern icon in terms of being an actress. Like
she's able to be in a lot of like different things.
She's good in everything she's in. Essentially, everything that she's
in is better for having her in it, it would seem.
And you know, her finally winning an Oscar for everywhere
everything all at once, I think was just like, you know,
a gimme is you know, she was given the Oscar
(33:02):
without going and getting one of those honorary Oscars. She
is that good of an actress. Like everything I've seen,
I mean, even those Halloween movies that really aren't that good,
you know, like I think they'll probably age better in
the long term, especially that third one, but those movies
are worth watching for her performance and what she brings
to it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You're talking about the rob zombie films, right.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Those rob zombie movies
have their moment. That's second, have you seen the second one?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
No, I couldn't make the best first.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Okay, the second one is worth watching because it's just insane.
It just goes cannon previous cannon out the window, other
things out the window, whatever you were expecting out the window,
Michael Myers mask not even gonna wear it. Like Michael
Myers is like a giant beard like literally like it's
like the Michael Myers mass is like a giant just
like fucking trucker beard sticking out the bottom. Essentially, Jamie
(33:55):
Lee Curtis is just you get why she is still
in the conversation she sticks out the way no other
like actresses have in those like minor fucking like throw
effectively a throwaway roll right literally for anybody else that
would have been a throwaway role because there's been plenty
of secretaries, other waitresses, other bit I mean, there's a
garbage man, there's an ice cream man. In this episode,
(34:18):
there's several secretaries, like none of them are given anything
to do, and here she is just like, what do
you want put your donut away?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Like all right, like talk about making a fucking impact.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
As you also saw on Wikipedia, this was the last
episode of the NBC mystery movie The Wheel was about
to come off when I came here and there were.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Jamielee Curtis is the breaker of the Wheel apparently.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
So the show that was playing rather than Colombo for
all of these months was Quincy m with Jack Flugman,
and which I went back and I watched all those
virtual Quincy Mystery movies. They're pretty decent. Not the greatest
thing in the world, but pretty decent. I mean, It's
Klugman is really good in those episodes, and I believe
(35:09):
the guy's name is Robert Edo was fucking amazing the
weird time in television. Knnig was writing that people had
to always look at their TV guys to even see
if the NBC Mystery Movie was going to be on.
It just was so the ratings were plumbing at this time.
After the four original episodes, Quincy was spun off as
(35:30):
its own weekly one hour long show. Its replacement in
the Rotation on the Wheel, Lannigan's Rabbi, would only last
four episodes. So now I'm like, do I need to
track down Lannigan's Rabbi?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
What did you just say out loud? Was the name
of this show?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Lanagan La n ig A n Lanigan's rabbi.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Did you look into it?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I've looked into it a little bit. The picture that
comes up when you initially google it is pretty funny
and it's Art Kearney, Janet Margolin, Stuart Margolin who plays
Rabbi David Small. Stuart Margolin, who most people would know
as Angel. Most people listening to this show and you
(36:17):
know anyway, would know is Angel from Rockford Files. It
looks bizarro?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Wait is it? Is it a cop and a rabbi together.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
It's a police procedural series that aired on NBC from
January thirtieth to April twenty fourth. The title alludes to
police Chief Paul Lanagan and his friend Rabbi David Small.
There we Go. Based on a series of novels by
Harry Kemmelman, the series stars Art Kindy as police Chief
Paul Lanagan, who fights crime in a small California town
(36:46):
with the help of his best friend, Rabbi David Small,
Stuart Margolin, and the pilot Bruce Solomon. In the series,
small stability in this area was attributed to his rabbinic
mind and his Talmudic training.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Friday, the Rabbi, slept late my Harry Kimmelman, Yeah, oh
slectly down. The Sabbath is the first in a series
of twelve books. You better be on YouTube Saturday, the
Rabbi went hungry. Sunday, the Rabbi stayed home. Monday, the
Rabbi took off. Tuesday, the rabbi saw red. Wednesday, the
(37:21):
Rabbi got wet. Thursday, the rabbi walked out. Conversations with
Rabbi small. Someday the rabbi will leave. One fine day,
the rabbi bought a cross, the day the rabbi resigned,
and the day the rabbi left pound. The first book
came out in nineteen sixty four. The last book, I
Shit You Not, came out a nineteen ninety six. This
(37:44):
whole subculture of Jewish police procedurals with rabbis that we
didn't know.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But not only did I find the original episode, or
at least an airing of it, it has all of
the commercials.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Oh my god, yes, in a strange turn of events,
people in twenty twenty five want to watch commercials. What
a strange What a strange thing to say out loud?
What are we doing in between Season six and seven
Flannigan's Rabbi feels like we just.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Talked about Griffin and Phoenix and we didn't talk about
Mikey and Nicky. And I've got a lot of people
who are coming after me on Facebook saying, you really
need to watch Mikey and Niki. It's the real classic.
Just like I told you, Just like I told you,
we are going to do two Levenson and Link properties.
We are going to talk about Charlie Cobb Nice Night
for Hanging, But before that, we're going to talk about
(38:38):
roller Coaster, which is a movie that, in my opinion,
is way better than it has any right to be.
Talk about it before terrorist and an amusement park and
a roller coaster, and I believe it's George Siegel. And
also the band.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Sparks is in it, like the band Sparks.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The band Sparks, isn't it? At least the brothers are
gonna interesting?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Doesn't Richard had him love that movie?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
He might he might, Maybe we should see if he
wants to come on and talk.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I know somebody I vaguely remember we have talked about
it at some point and somebody was like, I love
that movie. I mean, what's not to love as it
as President George Bush and is that Timothy Bottoms? That's
why Bush, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Just imagine how many episodes we're gonna be talking about
between season seven and eight, when there's like ten years
of Levinson and Link stuff, ten years of Peter Falk
stuff that we're gonna be talking about between those two
between seven and eight. It's gonna be a field day
for us.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Plus we've already talked about Quirky Romano. So where do
we go from there?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Well, we're gonna be talking about Uncle Maren the Billionaire,
which I believe is a Is that a Romanian film
that has a character very much like Colombo? So yeah,
we're gonna have a good time with that one too.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Buokle In vokes my just Mike says, we're going down
the Mister Toad's Wild Ride, Mister Mike's Wild Ride, Yo fu.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, this show goes.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Away for so long the world changes like drastically. I mean,
the format of the show is gonna change. I mean,
this is a TV movie show. This is a TV
movie mini series masquerading as a TV show, Like this
is just a mini series. They just didn't know what
to call it. But this is not like a TV show.
(40:30):
Like the way they handle this show is not like
a TV show. There's not like the weekly nature of
the show has been gone for what four fucking seasons
at this point, and now we're getting to the point where, like,
you know, we're one we're one season away from Peter
Folk just being like an old man essentially, right, just
like literally like a grandpa.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Like things go pretty quick. Yeah, and it's it's surprising.
I didn't realize that he was getting a divorce at
this time, so he was kind of desperate for money,
and then he's got all the money being tied up
in that Aline May project and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
It's just like, all right, sure, great, we're heading into
the less exciting times for Peter Folk, where decisions are
being made that maybe we shouldn't be making. So I
have to ask before we get to season seven, like,
is season seven considered to be a good season? Jonathan
Demi directed an episode.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I'm having the worst time remembering make Me a Perfect Murder.
I really like Murder on the Glass. That's the Jonathan
Demi episode I seem to remember liking Try and Catch Me,
the Ruth Gordon one, How to Dial a murder I
seem to remember really liking, and then the conspirators. The
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last official Columba episode is again one of the worst
ones for me.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Is that because it's just there's no way to end
Colombo in a satisfying way.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Well, you know, the one thing that Colombo probably shouldn't
get mixed up in is the troubles in Ireland.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Le
Welcome to the Shabby Detective, yet another Columbo podcast. I'm
your host Mike White, and joining me, of course, is
mister Chris Tashue.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
They call me Bye Bye sky Hi, I you Murder Case.
The name of the episode just makes me laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
The long name, Bye Bye sky Hi. So we had
we didn't have a break, but Colombo had a little
bit of a break. Old Fashioned Murderer came out November
twenty eighth, nineteen seventy six. This came out May twenty second,
nineteen seventy seven. I think that was like right around
(01:00):
the time, but Star Wars was released. If memory serves,
that might have been the twenty fifth. Goddamn long long time.
A lot of things were happening behind the scenes over
at Colombo. They were trying to get at least two
more episodes after Old Fashioned Murder, but they just got
the one. They have a new showrunner, I believe at
this point. Interesting choice of directors. Sam Wanamaker, who is
(01:25):
mostly known for being an actor, but here he is directing.
He's directed before, actually was blacklisted and moved over to
England when the blacklist was happening. Worked a lot with
the Globe Theater over there did a lot of Shakespeare's stuff.
I'm wondering if maybe that's where Samantha Egger comes into
this episode. They might have worked together over there. She's
(01:48):
as British as they come. Theodore Bichael as Oliver Brandt
Austrian actor, but he has gotten around quite a bit.
I think somewhere around this time is when he was
he was Meyer and Darker than Amber, the one that
stars Rod Taylor. Yeah, I thought he did a great
job as Meyer. You know, I'm bored the what was it?
(02:10):
The Keynes that was the book next door to Travis
McGee's boat park there anyway, the Busted Flush Jesus, Why
aren't we watching all of the movies that were based
on John D McDonald books, Oh, because there's only fucking two.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
There was that one that was going to be with
Johnny Depp, Don't forget Johnny Depp was Johnny Depp was
going to do one for like a million years, Leo
d Leo DiCaprio.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
At one point it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Was Chrissy b Robert Downey Junior, oh R DJ, but
Chrissy b was also in there. Christian Bale was also
in there as well.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, imagine Christian Bantlist, Travis McGee, no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I can't imagine Chris. I mean, Christian Bale is just
like so singular and you know, can I ask you something?
And you know, like this is a little bit of
a digression, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Over a little bit. I think we've already started the
diagram and it's okay, who.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Would you have played Colombo if Colombo were to be
brought back?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh? Mark Ruffalo?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh yeah? Which is one more thing. He's like Joe
Org John c Riley, which I think is you know,
like you know, I mean they sound the same.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Natasha Leone also yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That's I mean, like that's that's not fair because that's
that's so its own thing and so good. It's like,
I mean, I get it. I don't want to call
I don't almost want to say Natasha Leo because I
don't want to call poker face derivative of Colombo because
it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, it's it's it's really good.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, it's so good. Like honestly, I kind of wish
we could cover poker face in a way.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I mean, we could always do that. I mean, it's
funny because I think some of the people that do
Colombo podcasts beside ours, because there are a lot. I
think some of those guys are doing poker face, which
is funny.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I mean, it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But meanwhile, we're stuck all the way back here. Season six,
episode three, the final episode of seasons And just so
you know, Chris, this is the episode that inspired me
to do this entire show because I was listening to
a podcast about this episode and there's the moment when
(04:14):
the character Susie comes over when there's one of the
accountants who's at a singles club and Susie comes up
and she goes.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Hi, Hi'm Susie. Hi Susie.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I've tried essling, primal screen, pyramid power, sending on a
black Mass in San Francisco, open marriage, Yes, da DM,
I'm okay, You're okay, and I'm still a target.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
The guys who were hosting that podcast had no fucking
idea what she was talking about. They had no idea
what self help back in the nineteen seventies was like
this whole quest for spiritualism and all this kind of stuff.
And I heard that. I was just like, fuck, these guys,
I need to be talking about Columbos.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh wow, so you had like a father Malone moment,
is what you're saying basically, yeah, yeah, yeah, fmm, where
it's like this thing is this pushes this pushed me
to the brink where I'm just like, I must, I
must do something about this now. But yeah, Father Malone,
our dear friend always talks about listening to bad podcasts
and being driven crazy by it because they don't do
(05:26):
any research, Like how do how do you not know
about that? In the seventies, like that's I mean to
be fair, if you go to Sedona, Arizona, it's still
that way right now.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Written by Robert Malcolm Young. This was kicking around a while.
There were a couple of different script ideas that were
out there, and they ended up going with this one.
Changed it quite a bit from the original concept to
what we ended up with, but basically we have murder
at a mensa club. And I have to say I
(05:56):
was really studying how this episode is shot when I
was rewatching it the other day. This episode is shot
like a horror movie. Most of there are a lot
of the time, especially with the stuff around the sky
High IQ Club what they called the Sigma Club here,
not mensa, but Sigma, and when the whole episode starts
(06:19):
with a car out on a street and then you
get this hand grabbing the doorknob of this house and
pulling it open. You just get to see the hand
and that he's holding an umbrella, and then you see
all these shots from like outside of the room where
I think Kenneth Mars is talking, and like curtains are
in the way a little bit. Things are very obstructive.
(06:41):
It's basically Michael Myers at the beginning of Halloween, like
looking around the house and stuff, and that kind of
shaky zoom in on Sorel Brook, who is going to
be our victim in this episode. Second time we've seen
Sorrel Brook, by the way, last time we saw him,
he was Johnny Cash's manager wearing those amazing big round
(07:03):
tinted lenses and he's like in the corner of the frame,
like very big, and so seeing him here as this
much more meek and demure character, and especially after I
grew up with him as Boss Hog, where he has
just fucking balls out all the time, I couldn't believe
for years that Thorlbrook was both of those people, that
(07:26):
he was this guy as well as boss Hog.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes, I was also surprised to learn that because he
is not playing that in this episode at all. Was
it with the tickling that was so weird? A man? Well,
other than do you tickle the ivories? Do you tickle
the funny bone?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
No? No, neither. I haven't played piano in a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Tickling the date five yard penalty, first down? I don't
get it. It's so bizarre, like he just starts going damn.
I'm like, what is he gonna start choking? I was like, no,
it's just like this in a really homo erotic way,
like you're putting your hands on another man. I'm not
saying it don't but like I'm just saying, like I
don't get the optics of it, Like it's such a
(08:14):
specific thing to do that I don't understand why they
did it, because there are all these other things you
could do and that they didn't do that they did
this instead. Why. I just want to know why it
was so.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Soro Brook being famously bald. I mean, you just go
up and start patting his head like the little guy
on Benny Hills show, you know, but yeah, it's it's
very strange. I read the woods X right up on it,
and he's pretty down on this episode. He's just like, Yeah,
the mystery isn't there. It's not that great. It's solid
so easily. It's basically Colombo comes in, figures it out
(08:49):
like that, which is pretty typical for Colombo. But he
figures it out like that and basically just bats around
theater Bichel through the entire episode. I can see that.
I kind of agree with that, but at the same
time kind of like it. And there's a lot of
aspects of this episode I like, and there's a lot
of episodes aspects that I dislike. But I'm curious, Chris,
(09:11):
having been a first time viewer, what's your take on
this episode.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I feel like I've seen it before. It reminded me
of the Robert Kulp episode at the Other Institute. That's
not the Mensa one. It reminded me of that where
it's like this guy who's such an asshole and hates
everybody else, and everybody else kind of hates him, and
he's I mean, in that one, it's just like kind
of an ego thing or is he blackmailing people? I
(09:36):
forget what it is in now when he's blackmailing people
right this one. There's no blackmail. It's just like I
am embezzling money, which, by the way, what a good
word for stealing money from a company?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Embezzle? You make so much and scrabble with that one.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
He's embezzling money. But the way you gel sorrow Brook
is so fucking awful shoots him point blank twice, which
with a silence revolver, which I'd like to point out
once again, revolvers don't work.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Though. Whenever I say a silence revolver, I'm just like,
Chris is gonna go crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Okay, I've come to accept it. Okay, okay, yeah every time. Well,
because on top of everything else, like when you're using
a revolver, that's not how this works. But here's the thing,
Like I say that because part of the episode is
about them hearing it. So it's like, don't draw attention
to the fact that you have this contrivance in your episode,
a silence revolver on top of everything else, like it
(10:28):
could have been like a silent semi automatic pistol, like
this is seventy seven. But it's very it's very weird
because the noises end up being part of the way
the episode is solved. I want to lay out how
he gets caught, and you tell me if I interpreted
this correctly. Since you're asking as a first time viewer,
Colombo knows it's him.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Colombo catches him because Colombo knows that by pretending like
he doesn't understand how things are happening, this guy will
more than likely step in and correct him. And then
he baits him in with it by being like, oh,
the guy who did this must have been a bubbling moron,
like and he's like, I am not a moron, Like
(11:08):
you're describing this guy to be an idiot. Here's the
thing I don't understand. What is Columbo using to catch him?
The record? Is it the marker falling? Because this is
like circumstantial, beyond belief. I'm asking all this because like
this would be this is one of the hardest ones
Columbu would ever have to prove in a court of law.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean other than I have this person's confession,
but there's nobody else there when he gets the confession,
which is the marker? Is the confession right?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
The marker the the oh my, oh my, that's the
confession him being surprised you know that he baited. He
was baited into being so stupid. But it's like, again,
like the thing that I would have a hard time
believing is that they wouldn't just assume it's this guy anyways,
because who else would do it?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Columbo really, rather than it just being the Arker when
he goes into that night club and says, you can't
really get a promotion if you have a criminal record,
and is calling him out right there and then saying,
I know that you were involved in this embestlement. And
(12:18):
I feel that the other guy and the only reason
I'm saying guy rather than their names is because these
two accountants, one who is getting the promotion and the
other one who is now the secretary. Oh my god,
a male secretary. Oh my god, Oh oh, what the
hell's going on here?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Nurse?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Oh what a male nurse? No, no, you can't have that.
What the hell? And he's straight having those two characters,
and I think, what onence Arthur and the other one's
George or something. I'm just like, I'm having the worst
time keeping these two apart their names anyway, their face
is not so much, and that they're both seventies dudes,
(13:02):
you know, hanging out at this place and like, all right, great,
So anyway, I think Columbo would get him from that
rather than from the marker. But the thing, and I
don't think it's Columbo is saying that whoever did this
was an idiot. I think he's saying that the other
people have helped him figure this stuff out. And Bichael
(13:27):
as Brand, wants to be so smart, he wants to
be the smartest guy in the room, and he can't
stand that there are these other smart people there in
this club. I mean, it's a weird thing that he
you know, it kind of comes in late to the meeting.
At the beginning, he doesn't really mesh with the rest
of the people. He's really just there talking with Bernie
(13:48):
the whole time, and then he's just like he really
just kind of fucks around with these other folks. And
the thing that I wanted from this episode was so
you've got like a like a literal drawing room end
this episode. You've got like the smart girl. You've got
Bernie Koppol You've got sorry, not Bernie basil Hoffman, she says,
(14:09):
you got Kenneth Mars, you got the guy who looks
like who isn't the auto mechanic, because I think that's
Kinneth Mars, but you got the guy who looks like
the auto mechanic, and like the girl comes to Colombo
and says, well, I think that this is what happened,
and she describes something, and then Basil Hoffman comes up
and he's like, oh, well, the weapon had to be
(14:29):
tied with elastic and it shot back up the out
the window window or.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But then like they're actually close with this stuff. And
so what I was hoping was that Colombo is the
one that puts it all together. But I wanted all
of these other geniuses that are hanging out at this
club to all bring a piece to Colombo and for
him to bring the whole thing together and be like
each one of you, like maybe to them or just
(14:59):
to us to the audience, like each one of you
can think of one part of the solution, but it's
really Colombo who's the smart one that brings it all together.
And that he's smarter than Michael in this episode because
he fucking is and he knows that he is. And
that's the thing I like about this episode more than
anything else. And just even if it does have a
(15:20):
weak mystery and everything. I just love this whole idea
of how fucking smart Colombo is and that he's able
to solve all of these puzzles and is able to
solve the puzzle of the murder, and just his whole
thing about you know, Sarah, it's a funny thing.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
All my life I kept running into smart people. I
don't just mean smart like you and the people in
his house, you know what I mean. In school there
were lots of smarter kids. And when I first joined
the for Sir, they had some very clever people there,
(15:59):
and I could tell right away that wasn't easy making
protective as long as they were around.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I figured that.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
If I worked harder than they did, put in more time,
read the book, kept my eyes.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Open, maybe I could make it happen.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And I did.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And I really love my works, I can tell you do.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
There's one thing I learned, Lieutenant, is that we all
have a cross to bear, including those of us who
seem most fortunate.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I love hearing what just a tiny little glimpse into
Colombo's psyche and his reasoning and just how fucking smart
he is.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I agree with you, I mean, Colombo is so shut
off constantly like he's he is again, he seems like
an alien in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He and Arthur Dietrich would get along really well.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Don't you like how the one actor looks either like
William Finley or Arthur pa Trickman. Yes, yeah, depending on
the angle, but he definitely looks almost like he looks
very William Finley adjacent.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
And I was just so sad. So Kenneth Mars is
the guy with the pipe, and he's there at the
opening meeting and he's talking about how he's I think
he is an auto mechanic or something, and he's just
so happy to have people kind of like at his
level to talk with. Kenneth Mars is fucking amazing. I
love that guy. I think he's such a great actor,
and he he was the guy. If the audience doesn't
(17:35):
know Kenneth mars Is by name, think of the gentleman
who wrote the play Springtime for Hitler that was produced
by the self named producers. Think of the guy in
Young Frankenstein who won with the amazingly thick German accent,
with the fake arm that had been ripped off by
(17:57):
the previous Frankenstein Monster that's Kenneth Mars, and I was
just like, oh yeah, I'm here for it. I'm here
for it. But he's fairly in the episode, and he
really doesn't interact with Columbo at all, and I just
wanted that interaction between those two actors.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, no, we don't get enough Kenneth Mars, get enough
Theodore Bikeel though.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, I'm glad that I like him so much, and
he's very compelling to me. I like some of those moments,
like him with that ice cream cone and he's trying
to get rid of some of the evidence, and I
just thought for sure like Columbo was going to be like, oh, sir,
you dropped something or like that. Would that package that
he was trying to hide would come back later on
(18:39):
because you get to see the whole montage of yoh
I put it in the garbage can. I oh now
they're picking it up. Oh oh now they're they're tipping
it into the truck, and oh now the truck is
like crushing it or whatever. It's like you get to
see like all of those things, and each time you
cut back to him and he's just a little bit
more relieved, a little bit more relief and I'm just
(19:01):
waiting for Colombo to like pull that that stuff out
and be like, by the way you dropped this, sorry
you might yes, yeah, you might need this gun.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I do also like how and it's a it's a
hits a sight gag. I know it's not meant to
be funny, but where Sorrel Brooks body was on those
stairs having the body tape.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Shock outline thing.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, yeah, it reminded me of like a naked gun
gag where the body line is floating in the water. Well,
how weird is.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It when Colombo comes in two seconds later that it's
all the smoke from a cigar as he walks in,
I'm like, who directed this? Patrick mcgwynn, Come on, what's
going on here?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Is he in this enough?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I think so? I mean, he doesn't come in in
until after the first commercial break, but he's in there
by what fifteen seventeen minutes something like that?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Seventeen minutes?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, yeah, And I like the way that he goes around,
goes to Samantha Eggar, who is Bichael's wife and this one,
and you know, you can tell that she's got pretty
exorbitant tastes and everything. And I guess that's why he
was embezzling. But I don't know, it didn't feel like
she was. She's definitely not a shrew. She seems like
(20:17):
a nice person, you know. I kind of would have
liked her to have been worse or something, or somebody
who just expects the high life. And like maybe Bichael
had never like he didn't come from money and he
scraped his way up and maybe he's got like more
of a tragic backstory as it is, I don't find
there's not very much to like about Bichael as this character.
(20:40):
He just seems like like he's a criminal and he's
trying to cover up stuff. But that's not it. Like
I don't get a whole lot of like, oh I
care about this person, like the last few villains we've
heard about more I feel anyone Well's I.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Was gonna say, like, I just don't feel that like
interested in his performance, Like he just doesn't jump off
the page.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He was like the fourth choice too for this role.
I can't remember who the other three were, but they
went to a lot of other people before they landed
on him.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, because this episode's not that engaging. It's just not
that interesting, Like it's it is a locked room mystery,
which is fine, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just
this isn't particularly compelling, And I don't want to be
down on the episode, but I did not enjoy this
episode as much as I think this episode wanted me
to enjoy it. You know, there's there, Like you mentioned,
(21:32):
there are some weird things about this episode, Like how
much goddamn smoke Columbo Cigar makes it is absurd, Like
what is it? What do you just have like a
hose in your jacket pocket that you're just shooting smoke
out Like it's it's an absurd amount of smoke. There
are weird things in this episode? Are there? Early on
in the episode, like he opens the door and the
(21:52):
woman's like, I know who did it? Then he closes
the door on her and then Colombo comes in, Like
there are weird things in this episode that don't make
a lot of sense. Those weird things don't make up
for how just I don't know, Like I feel like
we've seen this before and they don't like the mensa
of it all, Like we've already dealt with people that
have these giant egos and they're ego driven and they're
(22:16):
like mego maniacal, Like we've already seen that, and I
don't even I'm not even sure. I would go as
far as to say we haven't seen smart people at
this point anyways. Like most of the people that we've
seen that are committing murders are successful, so they're not dummies.
Most of the time. They're being caught by someone who
is like once again written as and coded as essentially
(22:37):
God tear, Like Colombo is Deus ex machina, like that
is like he's smarter than the script. It's like he
has the script in his back pocket and he's like,
I know you're the killer. I just have to get
to that point. Like that's the like Columbo's written as
a character. I don't understand why they have such a
(22:58):
I don't know, Like this just feels so hodge podge
of other things we've seen before.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Okay, here we go. So before it was Bichael, it
was Peter Eustonov who wanted twenty thousand dollars plus expenses.
NBC said yes, but Ustinov changed his mind and passed.
The producer went to James Mason or Rex Harrison before
they settled on Theodore Bichael. That's from Gaine's book Shooting Colombo,
(23:26):
which is still, for my money, one of the best
Columbo books that you can buy. In this one, he
does talk about some of the other scripts that were
out there. One was an Agatha Christie type playwright who
they wanted Betty Davis to play. I think that'll come
back when we talk about Ruth Gordon, a gourmet cook
who will come back next season as Luis Jordan. And
(23:50):
a psychiatrist played by Hal Holbrook Well. And I don't
know if we have another psychiatrist, because we've already had
two psychiatrists now we had one of the original episodes
was a psychiatrist, and then the George Hamilton character was
kind of a psychiatrist as well.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
So Peter Houston of huh, that would have been interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
This only had twenty two days to shoot. And yeah,
there's a lot of stuff about this new producer. Simmons
was his name, and that he had worked with Fulk
before on Trials of O'Brien. Richard Allen Simmons that is
had worked with him on Trials of O'Brien, And yeah,
(24:31):
I guess Falk trusted him. That was always the whole
thing of who do you trust we'll hear a lot
more about him. But he really wanted to approach the
character in a much different way, almost more of a
magoon way, and I'm just like, please now quit doing that.
So I frankly don't remember a lot of season seven
episodes once we get there, but there are a few
(24:54):
standouts for good and a few standouts for really bad.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Again, well, season six was at least something, not not
sure what, but it was something. I mean. That's that's
the thing about this episode that is such a bummer,
is because the episode is just kind of middle of
the road. And there's only two other episodes this season,
and the first one was good because it was Chattner.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah. I don't know if we would have liked it
as much if it had not been Shatner, but he
we would not say, such a good job.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah no, And that's and that's the thing, Like I
feel like, imagine if it had been Peter euston Off
in this episode, would it have worked better?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah? No, I mean, I can see you stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
This is a year before he plays Poi ro it
would be seventy eight. Well, he played Poio many times,
but I don't think he played pli Row before seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Really okay, because I think so. I'm pretty sure Wannamaker
actually was in one of those with him as an
actor rather than as a director, which.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Was seventy eight is yes, seventy eight is Death on
the nun.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Okay, was in Voyage of the Damned, which was which
one was that for seventy eight Death on the Nile,
Death on the Nile, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Which is the first one. And then he played him
like on TV a bunch of times, like maybe one
other time in a movie maybe.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, yeah, I definitely remember Murder under the Sun, which
was probably my favorite of those paro mysteries, maybe just
because I saw it so many times as a kid,
but I just remember really liking that one a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So it's two movies and three movies and three TV shows,
even Under the Sun, Appointment with Death, Murder on the Nile,
and then Thirteen at Dinner, dead Man's Folly, and Murder
in Three Acts, which is ironic that he would go
and play poar Row on TV.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I never even saw those other ones.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, That's what I was saying, Like, it's a little
I think this would have worked better with Peter Eustadov
because you could have And yes, I know this is
before he plays poi Ro, but imagine if he had
played him in this episode, and then we could look
back on and be like it was Peter Folk and
one of the blav Ro characters opposite one another. It
(27:12):
takes on a whole different kind of tone and texture
than it does. And again, Theodore Bichael's fine, but that's
about it. He's not given much to do. Like, the
character doesn't jump off the page. He's very much an
amalgamation of a bunch of other characters that we've seen.
He doesn't have as big of a personality. He seems
a little bit more put upon than some of the
other characters, seems more exhausted than the other characters. Like
(27:36):
he's just you know, he's not engaging or interesting. And
that I feel like is a requirement for a villain
in Colombo because they are effectively the main character. Colombo
is the villain, so they need to be engaging and
interesting and they need to hook me in as the viewer,
Like I know what I really think about often like
(27:58):
that Donald pleasant episode for it in any storm that
I mean, it's the best episode. Yeah, Donald Pleasant's character
is a murderer, but you get it like I get it.
I'm like, yeah, I get it, Like I don't agree
with it. I don't like and you know what the
Jose Ferrera episode two, that one where I'm like I
get it, like I get it, like I'm not agreeing
with it, but like I you have gotten me there.
(28:21):
As the screenwriter, our friend Richard always talks about like
you you are taking people with you, like you are
telling them the story. You need to get them to
that point. Like I am on the journey with those episodes,
and it gets me to that point and I put
my trust in the episode and it is well rewarded.
Sometimes with the show that is not the case. This
is one of those episodes where it just is not
(28:42):
putting its best foot forward. And there's only three episodes
this season, Like what a bummer, Because yeah, even just
a minor change to the casting might have helped. I
don't think it would have fixed everything, but it might
have helped. And my god, Samantha Eggers is like her flips,
her French flip are just out of control, out of control.
(29:03):
So it's French curls or what's that called it's what
it's what Headwig has in the angry Edge.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
It's like a little lake.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, it's the flipout. It's the flipout bangs. Yeah. This
this episode of is so seventies.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It hurts. So what I was thinking of was Albert
Finni playing Hercule Piro and murder on the York Orient
Express in nineteen seventy four. So that's why I was
thinking that Yusinov. I thought that Usinov was playing that
in seventy four. But it's interesting that I think that
he only played Elber Finni, that is, only played him once,
(29:39):
and then Poirot takes over in seventy eight and ends
up playing him all those times. So hashtag not my
poi Ro having Farro versus Colombo. I mean, they couldn't
have sold it that way, but they definitely could have
been the reruns.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'll tell you that, right right exactly, Like that is
my point is like they should have put more effort
into this episode, and it doesn't feel like they did so,
which is fine, but you know, not every episode is
a banger. But we only had three this season, so
come on, one in three, one in three, really, we can't.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Talk about this episode without talking about Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Well, thank you you you beat me, You beat me
to the punch speaking of Donald Lessens so surly. Oh
my god, Well that's the thing. Like the fucking best
part of this episode might be Jamie Lee Gurtis because
you just I'll tell you. I knew she was in
the episode, and when I was watching it, I looked
away for a moment and I like snapped back the
(30:36):
moment I heard her voice, because she just does not
belong in this at all, Like she is so not,
like she is so not the size that this show deserves.
Like she's already like you can already tell she's already,
Like yeah, she's huge already, Like you can tell she
already gets it. Like the way she just interacts with
(30:57):
Glumbo and she's like fuck you, Like I just love
her a little bit in this episode is really good.
It's just you get why Jamie Lee Curtis is still
in movies as recently as like what a week ago
with Freaky or.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Friday Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, literally like still making movies, man like still doing it.
But yeah, she's so good in this episode. Makes a
lot out of a little. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I guess the kids call it ed cannon. My head
canon is Janet L Lee calling up Peter Falk and
be like, hey, Peter, you know I was in that
episode last season. You got a spot for my daughter?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
My daughter, well, I mean at this point, I mean,
at this point, we do know that Peter Falk moves
the needles.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
So yeah, she was great and this whole thing and like, oh,
I brought this donut in the donut and I was
gonna eat it, but just that look on her face,
she is, oh, yeah, she is so great. I mean
it's funny because like normally be like, oh yeah, did
you see you know, Katie Cigal in this episode, or
did you see that person in here? Like let me
(32:01):
just see Jeff goldbloom out protesting and stuff. Jamie Lee Curtis, Yeah,
she's got a couple of lines, but Jesus fucking Christ,
her lines are great and just like the hand on
the hip kind of thing, looking at it at fault,
just like you don't want to mess with this waitress.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
No, nonplus she's not having any of it. And I
love no, I loved it. Jamie Lee Curtis was great.
Like you know, it says it on Wikipedia that she's
in this episode but as a surly coffee shop waitress.
But she is surly, that is for sure. No, she
Jamie the Curtis, I think is you know, I don't
think that this is a controversial opinion. Like she is
(32:39):
a modern icon in terms of being an actress. Like
she's able to be in a lot of like different things.
She's good in everything she's in. Essentially, everything that she's
in is better for having her in it, it would seem.
And you know, her finally winning an Oscar for everywhere
everything all at once, I think was just like, you know,
a gimme is you know, she was given the Oscar
(33:02):
without going and getting one of those honorary Oscars. She
is that good of an actress. Like everything I've seen,
I mean, even those Halloween movies that really aren't that good,
you know, like I think they'll probably age better in
the long term, especially that third one, but those movies
are worth watching for her performance and what she brings
to it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You're talking about the rob zombie films, right.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Those rob zombie movies
have their moment. That's second, have you seen the second one?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
No, I couldn't make the best first.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Okay, the second one is worth watching because it's just insane.
It just goes cannon previous cannon out the window, other
things out the window, whatever you were expecting out the window,
Michael Myers mask not even gonna wear it. Like Michael
Myers is like a giant beard like literally like it's
like the Michael Myers mass is like a giant just
like fucking trucker beard sticking out the bottom. Essentially, Jamie
(33:55):
Lee Curtis is just you get why she is still
in the conversation she sticks out the way no other
like actresses have in those like minor fucking like throw
effectively a throwaway roll right literally for anybody else that
would have been a throwaway role because there's been plenty
of secretaries, other waitresses, other bit I mean, there's a
garbage man, there's an ice cream man. In this episode,
(34:18):
there's several secretaries, like none of them are given anything
to do, and here she is just like, what do
you want put your donut away?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Like all right, like talk about making a fucking impact.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
As you also saw on Wikipedia, this was the last
episode of the NBC mystery movie The Wheel was about
to come off when I came here and there were.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Jamielee Curtis is the breaker of the Wheel apparently.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
So the show that was playing rather than Colombo for
all of these months was Quincy m with Jack Flugman,
and which I went back and I watched all those
virtual Quincy Mystery movies. They're pretty decent. Not the greatest
thing in the world, but pretty decent. I mean, It's
Klugman is really good in those episodes, and I believe
(35:09):
the guy's name is Robert Edo was fucking amazing the
weird time in television. Knnig was writing that people had
to always look at their TV guys to even see
if the NBC Mystery Movie was going to be on.
It just was so the ratings were plumbing at this time.
After the four original episodes, Quincy was spun off as
(35:30):
its own weekly one hour long show. Its replacement in
the Rotation on the Wheel, Lannigan's Rabbi, would only last
four episodes. So now I'm like, do I need to
track down Lannigan's Rabbi?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
What did you just say out loud? Was the name
of this show?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Lanagan La n ig A n Lanigan's rabbi.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Did you look into it?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I've looked into it a little bit. The picture that
comes up when you initially google it is pretty funny
and it's Art Kearney, Janet Margolin, Stuart Margolin who plays
Rabbi David Small. Stuart Margolin, who most people would know
as Angel. Most people listening to this show and you
(36:17):
know anyway, would know is Angel from Rockford Files. It
looks bizarro?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Wait is it? Is it a cop and a rabbi together.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
It's a police procedural series that aired on NBC from
January thirtieth to April twenty fourth. The title alludes to
police Chief Paul Lanagan and his friend Rabbi David Small.
There we Go. Based on a series of novels by
Harry Kemmelman, the series stars Art Kindy as police Chief
Paul Lanagan, who fights crime in a small California town
(36:46):
with the help of his best friend, Rabbi David Small,
Stuart Margolin, and the pilot Bruce Solomon. In the series,
small stability in this area was attributed to his rabbinic
mind and his Talmudic training.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Friday, the Rabbi, slept late my Harry Kimmelman, Yeah, oh
slectly down. The Sabbath is the first in a series
of twelve books. You better be on YouTube Saturday, the
Rabbi went hungry. Sunday, the Rabbi stayed home. Monday, the
Rabbi took off. Tuesday, the rabbi saw red. Wednesday, the
(37:21):
Rabbi got wet. Thursday, the rabbi walked out. Conversations with
Rabbi small. Someday the rabbi will leave. One fine day,
the rabbi bought a cross, the day the rabbi resigned,
and the day the rabbi left pound. The first book
came out in nineteen sixty four. The last book, I
Shit You Not, came out a nineteen ninety six. This
(37:44):
whole subculture of Jewish police procedurals with rabbis that we
didn't know.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But not only did I find the original episode, or
at least an airing of it, it has all of
the commercials.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Oh my god, yes, in a strange turn of events,
people in twenty twenty five want to watch commercials. What
a strange What a strange thing to say out loud?
What are we doing in between Season six and seven
Flannigan's Rabbi feels like we just.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Talked about Griffin and Phoenix and we didn't talk about
Mikey and Nicky. And I've got a lot of people
who are coming after me on Facebook saying, you really
need to watch Mikey and Niki. It's the real classic.
Just like I told you, Just like I told you,
we are going to do two Levenson and Link properties.
We are going to talk about Charlie Cobb Nice Night
for Hanging, But before that, we're going to talk about
(38:38):
roller Coaster, which is a movie that, in my opinion,
is way better than it has any right to be.
Talk about it before terrorist and an amusement park and
a roller coaster, and I believe it's George Siegel. And
also the band.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Sparks is in it, like the band Sparks.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The band Sparks, isn't it? At least the brothers are
gonna interesting?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Doesn't Richard had him love that movie?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
He might he might, Maybe we should see if he
wants to come on and talk.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I know somebody I vaguely remember we have talked about
it at some point and somebody was like, I love
that movie. I mean, what's not to love as it
as President George Bush and is that Timothy Bottoms? That's
why Bush, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Just imagine how many episodes we're gonna be talking about
between season seven and eight, when there's like ten years
of Levinson and Link stuff, ten years of Peter Falk
stuff that we're gonna be talking about between those two
between seven and eight. It's gonna be a field day
for us.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Plus we've already talked about Quirky Romano. So where do
we go from there?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Well, we're gonna be talking about Uncle Maren the Billionaire,
which I believe is a Is that a Romanian film
that has a character very much like Colombo? So yeah,
we're gonna have a good time with that one too.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Buokle In vokes my just Mike says, we're going down
the Mister Toad's Wild Ride, Mister Mike's Wild Ride, Yo fu.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, this show goes.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Away for so long the world changes like drastically. I mean,
the format of the show is gonna change. I mean,
this is a TV movie show. This is a TV
movie mini series masquerading as a TV show, Like this
is just a mini series. They just didn't know what
to call it. But this is not like a TV show.
(40:30):
Like the way they handle this show is not like
a TV show. There's not like the weekly nature of
the show has been gone for what four fucking seasons
at this point, and now we're getting to the point where, like,
you know, we're one we're one season away from Peter
Folk just being like an old man essentially, right, just
like literally like a grandpa.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Like things go pretty quick. Yeah, and it's it's surprising.
I didn't realize that he was getting a divorce at
this time, so he was kind of desperate for money,
and then he's got all the money being tied up
in that Aline May project and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
It's just like, all right, sure, great, we're heading into
the less exciting times for Peter Folk, where decisions are
being made that maybe we shouldn't be making. So I
have to ask before we get to season seven, like,
is season seven considered to be a good season? Jonathan
Demi directed an episode.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I'm having the worst time remembering make Me a Perfect Murder.
I really like Murder on the Glass. That's the Jonathan
Demi episode I seem to remember liking Try and Catch Me,
the Ruth Gordon one, How to Dial a murder I
seem to remember really liking, and then the conspirators. The
(41:43):
last official Columba episode is again one of the worst
ones for me.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Is that because it's just there's no way to end
Colombo in a satisfying way.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Well, you know, the one thing that Colombo probably shouldn't
get mixed up in is the troubles in Ireland.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
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