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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hey, welcome back to swawey TV. This is a core
test producer director. But right now we're listening to the
Powerhouse podcast. We're at the Disrupt the studio if you
all of Washington, and we got a special guest. We've
got a special thing going on today. Just like before
Metal Metal, I'm here with presidential candidate, a Latino guy
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on you way back thirty years ago, way back in
nineteen ninety six, ninety seven. I'm here with the one
and only Jay Torres.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
All right, well, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Ave. I know, it's been quite a long time, thirty years.
It might be a drop in the bucket for others,
but you know, for me, you know, it's been a long, long,
long time. Happy to be back here to the Northwest.
And just to set the story straight and for food transparency.
I am a former US presidential candidate stemming out of Woodbridge, Virginia,
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and I'm looking, you know, at twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So if you don't mind me asking, Jay Torres, can
you tell us a little bit about your history, how
you were next to the Northwest. I mean I met you,
like I said, thirty years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. Well, you know, I was
born and raised in the center of the universe, you know, Brooklyn,
New York for those that you know are following New
Yorkers whatnot. And I decided to join the military in
nineteen ninety two, and I joined the military ninety two.
By nineteen ninety five, I was stationed here. This was
actually my first KONUS assignment, which was the first Special
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Forces group here in what was then called Fort Lewis, Washington.
Now it's you know, the joint base with Fort Lewis
and McCord Air Force Base. So when I arrived there,
I guess sometime later we met.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, we used to go out and play sports together,
hang out.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I don't think we've ever played racquetball before, but we did. Yeah, yeah,
you know, but we were social creatures football. Yeah, we're
definitely social creatures whatnot, you know. Coming with you know,
my New York upbringing, I was, you know, you know,
really really tied to the hip so to speak, with
the old hip hop culture emanating from New York City,
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predominantly the Bronx and Brooklyn and Manhattan and whatnot, all
the Burroughs.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Quite frankly, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I love it when I hear when I see movies,
they'll be like, hey, you know, son of Johnny Brascal
and this is Lefty man. And I can walk around
to all the Burroughs. Man, just hearing that. It's cool, man.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, the movies, you know, absolutely it was. You know,
it was a great era.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
You know, the eighties erow was the best. I think
still has been overtaken by any other generations.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Say, because I remember this as a kid, I used
to break dance. Yeah, but you know what I'm talking
about when I say this, I remember that song the
South Bronx, The South South Bronx.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's right, Yeah, yeah, shout out to BDP.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
But get on productions with keras One and those folks
out there that, yeah, paved the way for hip hop
and even the earlier pioneers like you know Grand Massive,
Lah Interfurious five Mcs and you know kum O d
and all the others.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And you don't understand, man, but ironically, I'm considered not
the but one of the persons who self pioneered the
hip hop scene in Austin, Texas. Right that I used
to be part of a group that was the first
one to perform.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Live, absolutely, and I know that when I learned about
your escapades here in the Northwest, predominantly with Latin.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Hip hop, yeah that was real.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know, that's what really really, you know, Drew, My
attention was the Latin hip hop portion because it's not
something that's mainstream. I don't know why it never went mainstream,
but they certainly had a lot of pioneers, namely you
know one included with my own family. Her name is
Lottie Das, So shout out to Lottie Dove you're listening.
She came out with the song Infatuation back in like
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nineteen eighty three. It was a good hit man, big hit,
big hit. And she's still doing her thing, believe it
or not. You know, she's still out there doing her
working her magic, singing songs. And as a matter of fact,
you know, during my military career, I was still promoting
You five Enterprises, which is an art and entertainment company
I had started back in two thousand and eight and
wind up flying her over to Cambodia where she performed
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at the American Embassy as well as other shows and
clubs there and other artists.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Speaking about You five. You actually had that here in Seattle.
It's a graffiti artist, right, yes.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Artist You five started out way back in nineteen eighty seven.
It's just a bunch of you know, rambunctious teenagers writing graffiti.
And so by two thousand and eight, I went in
fashioned a company so we can go and showcase artists
talents and their artwork, you know, legally of course, and
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so we've got everything from a clothing line and I
started promoting vocal artists, some of which are folks like
don Or Lotti Da or the Hood Scholars Rad and
my first artist. Actually her name was Jen Behar, who
sang for Maroon five and by All Hazard and a
couple other groups.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
So yeah, it was a very interesting period, you know,
being in the military. I was then a military officer
by that point. And on the side still, you know,
clinging onto my hip hop origins, you know, from New
York City and promoting U five enterprises.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I love it. I mean, if anybody who knows music,
they know that's where the whole rap hip hop scene
and all these young artists today they need to pay
tribute and thank people like Doctor Jekyll, Mister High, grand
Master Flash, Sugarhill, Gang Run, DMC they need. And they
all came from New York. Like they said, New York,
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New York, big city of dreams. But everything in New
York ain't always what it seems. Yeah, I mean I'm
not a rapper, but I remember that like second nature
absolutely growing up in Austin. I mean, everything that came
from New York was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, and you see it now. I mean it was
kind of scoff that back then. You know, in the
late sixties and even even into the late seventies, people
did never suspected that hip hop will continue to flourish,
and now it's a billion dollar industry from clothing to
you know, clothing and power obviously to artwork. And you know,
there's there's different elements of hip hop. You know, you've
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got the obviously graffiti was actually the first element of
hip hop, and then you've got the rapping, and you've
got the breakdancing.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And the name of that group is called YOU five,
the name of the one in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
The one in Seattle. What happened was is, while I
was stationed overseas, I wanted to create a network of artists.
And it didn't matter whether you were just drawing, you know,
with craypars or pencils or pastels, or whether you were
a vocal artist or a fashion design anything dealing with artwork.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I was promoting artists.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
And so at some point I wanted to go and
stretch that globally or that global scale, and I started
pitching the idea of having U five represent represented in
every country, and we deemed that world U five and
that became uh that came to fruition actually in twenty sixteen,
where we had U five members throughout throughout the globe.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well hopefully, uh in the summer, I'm going to be
working with the Seattle Tacoma Latino Chamber of Commerce because
it's starting from Seattle. That's the big boys, but they're
gonna come to Tacoma. Monico's Carlos the filmmaker, local guy
here Zeta Maya Entertainment Productions. He's been on this podcast before.
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But hopefully we could hamn you five and some of
the artists that way, the car community and the Chicanos
and Latinos can check out their artwork.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And for those that you might have, you might have
low riders who want their artwork put on their cars.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Man, that'd be a fantastic idea. I know there are
U five artists that are doing everything from tattoos to so.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Before you leave, man, give me some numbers. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And for those that are out here in Seattle Tacoma
area part of the U five network that was established
years ago, I know that folks are still out there,
so you know, hit us up here. You look for
Ape Courts has in the Powerhouse radio station and make
that connection so you can be a part of that event.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Don't forget about Bill. Are you are you single single
ladies out there, you can't forget about Bill.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Man, right, you cannot. You can't eat Bill out that said,
so let's go ahead and switch gears.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Man sure getting into politics, and that's something I'm not
gonna lie to you. I probably devoted my time and
effort to so many different campaigns. There was a gentleman
named doctor rowe got to see years ago. Bill met him,
he was on this podcast. I met him in person,
and he ran for governor and unfortunately he didn't win.
And recently he ran for Congress, didn't win that, but
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he's been leading away.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And I've been.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Involved in politics way before then locally and anytime I
see a Latino trying to run. So it's an honor
man to not only know you, but let the people
know man, what you're going to be doing and how
they can support you.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Sure, well, you know, the trek began, you know, way back.
It was just.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
It was actually just a mention during the family reunion,
believe it or not, probably about two thousand and ten
at an annual family reunion, when one of my aunties said, hey,
you know, you're doing so well in the military. You
know you should run for president. You know, family members
kind of looked at me and like, Okay, where's your answer?
Right back in twenty ten, And you know, I didn't
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really I didn't really take that time to really, you know,
start pushing into politics. I just took that with a
grain of salt and move forward, you know. But you know,
by the time I started really really getting immersed within
the military, went on to work out of four American embassies.
The first one was Zimbabwe in Africa, and I worked
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out of the American Embassy in Harari, which which actually
stands for CD that does not sleep Harari. Uh So
shout out to my friends out there, Harari and Zimblan
out there. So they're in Zimbabwe, you know, working out
of the American embassy there. I was working in the
Defense Attached Office, and you know, we there's always a
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lot of information that that folks that are working within
the intelligence community are privy to, and they see, you know,
an astounding amount of information that that comes before us,
some of which is passive, some of some of which
this action that needs to be taken. But one thing
I noticed was that there was a humongous issue and
uh that was brewing, and you know, when it dealt
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with human trafficking. For those that work within d O
D or Department of State, you know, people are familiar
with the term tips, uh, and that's trafficking in persons.
And and so when you're looking at from a big
broader perspective about human trafficking and it's origins and why
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its still continues to persist even though you know, we
celebrated years ago with the end of slavery, but here
and you know, in this day and age, slavery still exists.
There is still modern day slavery existing now and and
and that started to really bug me, you know, because
here I am defending our way alive, defending our our
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our country, uh in the fashion that I did, working
out of out of an American embassy, but looking state siding,
seeing what was occurring with human trafficking. And it was
astounding to see, you know, so many people that were
hurt by human trafficking. And so I kind of, you know,
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pontnered about that, and and I thought, man, you know,
something needs to be done. By that time, years later,
I wanted to move into other embassies. I spent some
time in El Salvador, lived there in two thousand and
eight in Ol Salvador, and you know, obviously it was
a big problem in two thousand with the MS thirteen gangs.
They were, you know, it was pretty pretty dangerous there
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in Old Salvador. I worked out of the American embassy
there in San Salvador, and I remember just weeks in,
you know, it was so dangerous. The weeks in in country.
It was a body that was found right outside my
door of of a of a woman that was uh,
I believe, a woman that was bound by bound and
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gagged and just tossed right there to the curve as
if it was like a message. Because you know, working
as a diplomat overseas, you know, you always have to
be very wary about about people rolling up on you
and kidnapping you for ransom and that sort of thing.
So that kind of really really you know, it was
really really big eye opener for me. But you know,
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going back to the question that you mentioned about me,
you know, becoming involved in politics and why I made
that decision. Further down the line, when I went and
worked out of the Americans, seeing Panama, Pen Cambodia, you know,
there again you know, human trafficking was very, very evident,
and so as I decided that at that point, you know,
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I was going to start getting serious about maybe doing something.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I was.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I was not too far away from retiring from the military,
and I thought, perhaps I can retire from the military,
head back to my home place, which is Brooklyn, New York,
work out of the United Nations, and then maybe run
for a local office there and start working in a
matter when it comes to human trafficking. Now that those
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plans didn't materialize, They didn't come to fruition, but I
wound up retiring in twenty sixteen and remaining in Virginia
where I'm at now in Woodbridge. So by that point
I still had it in my mind that I'm going
to run for office, but I didn't know which office.
People are saying, well, Jay, you should run for Congress,
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Oh you should as a senator, or you should run,
you know, for some other local office. And I started thinking, well,
you know, fifty years later and a trillion dollars that
was spent against the war against drugs, you know what
did that get us? It got us in a bigger
hole that we were when we started off with. So
I felt like if I ran for either or of
those roles, then I probably be just another fish in
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the pond. And I didn't want to do that, you know,
I said, you know what, I don't have any time
to waste. I need to go and get to get
a role, get a position where I'm able to go
and do a lot more and how a large a
larger impact, And so running for president makes sense. And
so by twenty eighteen, we began what's called a Presidential
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Exploratory Committee, and that's kind of like you know, testing
the waters and seeing whether or not I am someone
that the American people can see as a presidential candidate. See,
you know, whether or not the American people aligned with
my you know, with my beliefs and my stances the
big issues. And so we started, you know, sending a
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number of polls out there, and you know, aside from
abortion and guns rights and the economy, you know, usually
those are the tip of the spear. But most people
were sending back results and they were asking they just said,
they said, Jay Torres, we want someone that at least
relates to the American people, relates to the common man.
The common man meaning the majority of Americans, which make
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one hundred thousand dollars or less.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
That's the common person, the person.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
That's out there are two or three jobs, you know,
scraping to make ends meet, cutting corners, every which way
you go. The common person, all right. So you know,
I felt like I can be more relatable than someone
like a Donald Trump or a Joe Biden because I
wasn't born with the silver spoint in my mouth, right,
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I don't have the big, deep pockets like they do.
But that's not what America wanted, right, That's not what
they were looking for. I mean, they're looking for someone
that they can say, you know what, I can see
myself having a conversation with this guy. I can see
myself having a cup of coffee with this person. I
can see myself having my family around this person. I
would feel comfortable with my family around this person. And
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I thought that's kind of meat because I felt like
I was a lot more relatable and understood what it's like,
you know. Being born in Bushard, Brooklyn in the eighties,
it was a tumultuous period. He had a lot of
things that surfaced in the eighties, such as crack cocaine,
which really devastated our neighborhoods, just like it did Washington,
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d C. There's a lot of there's a lot of similarities.
And so here I am, you know, with that history
behind me regarding all the things that US as a
nation went through within the last you know, the late sixties.
You know, the assassination of doctor Martin Luther King, right,
he had the assassination of JFK. Yeah, so many things
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that are going on in that era, which was not
table talk at the dinner table. We weren't talking about
the Vietnam War when I was a kid. And so
fast forward that to twenty eighteen. We started pushing Torres
twenty twenty four, right, and so there was we were
able to be recognized by the FEC. In twenty twenty one,
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we were recognized by the FEC. We were now a
bona fide you you know, presidential campaign. And so I
actually made my formal announcement that I was running under
the Republican Party. By the way, that was out of Castlebury, Florida.
And so we had a motiicid rally. We had a
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big speech. You know, we had a lot of attention there,
but it didn't get national attention. And that was an
issue that was our kind of our down force, so
to speak, early in the campaign is that, Yeah, we
were able to go and get a lot of attention.
I appeared in the Puerto Rican Dear Parade as matter
of fact, in Orlando, Florida, and a lot of other events,
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and you know, so here I am. You know, I've
got a family, I've got a full time job, and
then on the side of campaigning.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
So there's a lot on my plate.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But I felt like someone has to do it right,
someone has to do it. The first turnaround when Trump ran,
I voted for him initially the first the first term
when he became president. And that's because it was more
of it was more of a vote against Hillary Clinton
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because of all the different you know things.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That occurred during her mine.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
You know, there were her tour as Secretary of Straight
you know, the home Benghazi, what was was a downfall,
the server that was in her her home, the emails,
and it was just one thing after another after another.
And so I think the majority of the American people
voted for President Trump, uh then because it was more
of a no to Hillary Clinton, but not necessarily that
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we love President Trump. So the next turn the next
time that you know, we were growing up towards twenty
twenty obviously, and you know I didn't support Trump then,
but I wanted to run against him quite Franco, whoever
the contender was.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So we ran in twenty twenty four and rather in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And then what happened was is that you know, we
were running under the Republican ticket tours twenty twenty four
rather and we wanted to go and bring in new
ideas and new vision basically to the existing Republican Party.
All right, But I told you what it was. It
was very difficult. It was challenging because everyone that we
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that we spoke with a lot of the folks within
the GOP from the county all the way to the state.
You know, everyone always had an excuse. Ah, Jay, you know,
we're kind of busy right now.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
We'll get to you.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
We hear you know, we hear what you're saying, but
we're going to get to you later on. Right now,
we're fixiated on this or that. So it was always
some excuse. And you know, you've known me for years, Abe,
you know that if if I've got something to do,
I'm not going I'm only going to ask you one
time and if you're not going to respond, guess what,
I'm not gonna wait.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm going to go right around you.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I'm going to move forward with whatever exactly and never
what I did. So here it is now you know,
Trump gets re elected now and but and I wind
up actually running as a rite in candidate, and in
that category, which was obviously the other category which fell
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under you know, the Republican, the Democrats, the Libertarian Party,
the Four Party, all the parties had a category there,
say other where you're writing the candidate's name. So that
was that's where we fell, you know, quite frankly and astonishingly.
Astonishingly enough, though, that category actually garnered over three hundred
and seventy four thousand folks that that you know, were
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paying attention and wrote in a candidate there. And so
I thought, you know what, people are interested, uh, and
are really tired of the of the polarized parties where
you've got people all the way to the left all
the way to the right here and there. But honestly,
I think, in my estimation, most folks that you encountered
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are not one hundred percent Republican, nor are they one
hundred percent Democrat. Like I don't think there actually is
a one hundred percent bona fide you know, no bs,
you know, Republican or Democrat. I think most folks would
bend a little or or or or be flexible either or.
And so when I ran initially, I ran as a
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moderate Republican, you know, under the Tories twenty twenty four campaign.
And this time around, we're going to go and carry
forth our message, which was the New GOP, but not
as not under the umbrella of their exists Republican Party,
but we're actually going to create our own political party
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dubbed the New Government of the People, the New Government
other People, or simply the New go OP. So there's
no ties to the existing j P. We're not we're
not gonna be affiliated with Grandma's old party. You know,
you know I I you know the politicians there quite frankly,
you know, if they wouldn't pay me the time of
day in the past. And it's time to move on
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and do something where mainstream America feels like this, this
makes a lot of sense. This makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
For the people listening and they want to get involved. Uh,
it's gonna be called say say that I'm beginning.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Sure the new GOP we have our our website obviously
is up and and so you can go to www
dot the dash new dash go op dot com. So
just make sure you place dashes in between the words
so that we can get to the proper site. When
I ran initially with you know, the Tories twenty twenty
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four campaign and then wanted to go and switch gears
into the new JP, you know, folks out there, and
I'm not gonna, you know, calling names, but folks out
there wanted to block that, you know, block that momentum.
And so they went they went ahead and purchased the domain,
the new GP without the dashes, just so they can
kind of thwart our attempts at creating this party.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
So I simply went around them.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
That's a little dirty, it is.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
It is and and so, and it's unfortunate that it
was someone from New York, you know, my home state.
But it's okay, you know, you know, because the way
I see it is this, there's.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Only one America.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
So if you're going to be running for president of
the United States, you should be directing your your message
to the American people, which is a conglomeration of all parties, right,
I mean, so just.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
It's the New GOP. But because they did that, you
need to put the th h.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
N e W dash go op.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
That's correct, Okay, so you can you can actually find
us online.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
We're we're getting very very uh.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
We've got a good presence now on x as well
as Facebook. We've got a podcast as well, and it's
called the New GOP and we've got a few episodes.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Come on, I mean, which which sites does it come on?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
If you go to YouTube and look up the New JP,
maybe add a comma j Torres, then.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You'll you'll see you do you need to put dashes
and all of it?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yes, anything any anytime you look for our campaign always
plays the dashes after the words and you and and
that'll direct you straight to us. So the new you know,
we've got volunteers, and I want to thank my volunteers
that that have been steadfast with us from even twenty eighteen.
We still have folks from the old campaign that have
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decided to remain with us with it with a new endeavor.
And so you know, you can find us on social
media on on you know, Instagram, on Facebook. We just
created a reddited accounts were up on there and TikTok.
So take take a look at my videos on TikTok.
I'm hammering the fact and footstomping what's going on now
(26:15):
with the government shutdown, it's outlandish. I just had I
just had breakfast with soldiers here at Fort Lewis Uh
and just talked about, you know, what's going on. You know,
boots on the ground told me, you know, what's really
going on with the situation, and a lot of the soldiers,
you know that I spoke with, they said, man, we're
glad you're here. We can't believe that there's someone like
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you here amidst us, you know, because here I am
a retiree, a retired US Army and want officer, you know,
having you know, having you know, breakfast with soldiers there
and and talking about the issues. One of the big
issues is the government shutdown, which is out. You know,
it's crazy that it's actually affecting soldiers now because you
think that if you're a soldier, you're safe from the
government shutdown and you're paving stopped. But evidently it you know,
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it may actually happen where soldiers are not getting paid,
you know, at the end of the month.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And on that note, I mean, I'm just gonna be
straight up about this. I know we have people doing
politics in DC, and I know you have people who
are elected president, governor senator, Congress, but come on, man,
I mean, with this new stuff going on, I don't
see where we benefit are playing politics to where it's
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now affecting Joe Public.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yes, and that's a great start, man, it's a great point, abe.
And quite frankly, if you really think about it, our
government runs on a fiscal year, not a calendar year.
So what occurs essentially is that every first of October
we have to go and pass the budget for the
following year, which goes from October to October.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
That means that.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
From October the first twenty twenty four to October the
first twenty twenty five, we've already collect the taxes for.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
That whole year. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
See, so the money is there, and so we've got
this heap and pile of trillions of dollars of taxpayer
money that's sitting on the table waiting to be spent.
And they're, you know, the the Republicans and the Democrats
are out there fighting over how it's going to be spent.
So it's not a matter that the money's not there.
It's there because we've already paid for it. But it's
just a matter of how it's going to be spent.
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And that's where you've got this, you know, the back
and forth, and you know, and people just really trying
to decide how much money are they going to get
at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Pretty much people's political bickering is now unfortunately affecting really
when it's all said and done, Joe Public, I mean,
there can be somebody with upper middle class, lower middle class,
a government worker.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
You know, it's absolutely man.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, We've got about two million people that work as
that that are civilians or government hires.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Honestly, I'm just saying it's not because I know you,
and God, I remember when thirty years ago, man, you
were the guy in the military and everybody kind of
looked up to you, and you were doing am way
back then.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And not only that, you were.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Always motivated and you didn't bring but you did good
in your job at Fort Lewis. And I'll say Fort
Lewis because I don't remember the thing now. So Fort
Lewis Joint Lewis, my court But what I'm getting to
is this good that you have a real person doing
this about twenty twenty eight, hopefully maybe in twenty twenty
(29:27):
seven we can do a fundraiser for you back. By
then we should have everything going to throw the people
out here in Washington steak and know who you are, man. Yeah,
and there's a lot of this stuff man. In reality,
this has to come to an end. Man. And let
me say this right now, Latinos out there, Stasi, please vote.
You got to get more involved politically. You got to
(29:49):
get your vote out. I've decided in two thousand and
coming out twenty twenty six, I'm going to start lou
Light going again by popular or you know, demands primarily
to get more involved in politics.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah, I mean you have for for folks out there
that are listening and think that I don't want to
be involved in politics, well guess what you are involved
with everyone that's living in the United States. Whether you're
republic Democrat or you know, whatever religion you are, whether
ethnicity you are, whatever, it doesn't matter. You are all
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involved in politics. You might be involved passively or you
or indirectly, but you are involved.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And simple is a mom or a dad or a
young mom, single dad, whatever. If you got a kid
going to school and you're part of the PTA, guess
what if you're in that and you're doing stuff that's political.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, if you have to think about it in this manner,
like we all live under the rule of law, right,
we all live on the US Constitution and then all
the laws that you know from the state or leaving
down to the county and even your communities.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
By laws what have you.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
So, and people are making decisions on how much money
you're going to pay for your childcare costs. They're making
decisions how much money you're gonna pay for taxes. They're
going to make decisions how much money you pay for
for child support, how much money you're going to make
on your salary, you know, for the state minimum wages.
All these decisions are being made for you. And if
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you're not a part of that, then you know you're
hurting yourself. You need to be actively involved, and it
doesn't matter. It doesn't mean that you have to run
for some particular office, but you should be. You should
be at least plugged into your your local representative, whether
whether it be an assemblyman or a counselman or a
border county supervisor, whatever it is, so at least you're
in the know and you have some impact and decision
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making because of the one of the downfalls that I
see occurring is that Americas are just so passive these days.
They just they wan't allow other people to go and
take care of their problem. And that's the reason why
I felt like, Wow, three hundred and forty million Americans,
you've only got a dozen folks that are running for president.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I mean, people think that, wow, you got so.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Much people that are patriot patriotic, you know, for the
country that you probably think that may be about ten
thousand at least. They say, you know what, I'm running
for president, and like, I'm surprised you don't have bigger numbers.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I know it's a difficult job. I understand that.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I know it's it's just like a really, really trying
job where you've got so much responsibility. But I think
that if you do anything with a good heart, if
you have a plan of action, if you're sincere and transparent,
and you and you really want to do better for
your country, then I.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Think you will get the support. And I believe that our.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Campaign, which is dubbed the New JP, will get that support.
But we need to first let folks know we exist.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Right. It doesn't matter how good you know you've got it.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
If you've got a great plan but no one has
heard your plan, then you're not going to get very far.
And so the hope is that this time around in
twenty twenty eight, that nationwide.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
People will know Jay Torres.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
They will know who I am, they will know what
I represent, they will know where I standing on all
the big issues from the economy to the border, to
big farm to big tech, and also someone that is
willing to go and be the tip of the spirit
for the American people and bring you the truth even
if it hurts, even it's something that you were raised
(33:36):
so differently, Like wait a minute, that can't be I
was raised up thinking this, and you're telling me this.
If it's the truth, I'd rather give you the truth
and then we'll deal with with with whatever it needs
to be adjusted afterwards. Then to lead you on, lead
the American people on with lies and mistruths or have
true You know, information is a big industry in the
(34:00):
in the military, is a big industry within our government. Uh,
but there's a there's there's sectors of our government that
deal with misinformation and this information. And you go back
to the Vietnam War all the way to you know,
the war in Iraq. Everywhere you go, there's always going
to be some involvement when it comes to you know,
(34:22):
psychological operations psyops they call it, or or misinformation disinformation.
And it's not just the military, is also you know,
our our civilian agencies. Unfortunately, so when you start thinking
about things that occurred during the Obama administration with Operation
Thin Thread and and and and and uh and and
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also the trampling of our inalienable constitutional rights where more
and more of our feelings are being taken away because
people believe that the government can go and take better
care of us than we can, that's when you really
have to start thinking and saying, hmm, we need to
do something now, because right now America is really really
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on the cusp of falling off a cliff.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Into the abyss. If that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I believe that there's a lot to do, and we've
got a wonderful country. The beauty about our country is
that we the people have the power to change it.
The US Constitution is not something it's like that is
not touchable, that we can't change it. It was written
over two hundred years ago. Don't you think by now
in the twenty first century, it's time for something. It's
time for the American people to kind of, you know,
(35:36):
gear towards changing it so that way the language of
the US Constitution like today, the here and now.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I hope that you'll know what I'm talking about, and
Bill will too. But I'm praying to God we avoid
a civil war, because if there's a civil war, then
legally somebody can do a third term.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Right, So there's a lot of there's a lot of
talk about their an allowance within the US Constitution which
would allow a sitting president of the United States to
remain in power essentially into another term if there is
super unrest or if there is uh some sort of
national crisis that's that's.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
You know, that's occurring.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
I believe that if that is the case, from what
I've read and from from what I've heard, if that
is the case, you know, it's not really a good
look for our sitting president now because it would it
would allude to the fact that he's creating all this
havoc now ahead of the twenty twenty eight elections. So
that way, God forbid, you know, when we reach that point,
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he can he can go and press that button or
hit the switch and say, you know what, you know,
because we are at war, you know, or we've got
this national crisis, whether it be the border or the
drugs or what have you, that I can remain here
as president. Well, mister president, I will tell you this
that this is not Africa, this is not Asia. And
(37:02):
you know, I don't I don't know what more do
you need? Uh, we just had the No Kings protests
where millions and millions of people were out there US citizens,
by the way, Americans, not as you described, saying that
they were not representative of the American people. So no,
we didn't have millions of people that were that were
(37:23):
shipped in or or or came on on a plane
to go and and protest. You know, the mannerisms that
you have with regards to the way you use ice
and these other folks that were those were American folks.
Those are American people. You're the people that you that
that you should be protecting and and those that you
(37:44):
actually took an office to protect by the way, and
so no, there's there's no way in the world that
the American people would allow for you to remain on
a third term. So I think that, and I'm directing
this basically more towards the legislative branch, where you've got
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folks that have been there for over thirty years. Like
I was looking through some of the tenure of some
of these senators and Congression officials. There was one that
was there thirty seven over thirty seven years, and.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I'm thinking to myself, Holy moly, thirty seven years.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Really, So in other words, you know, typically you got
the US representatives, they are there for about two years
before they get re elected or they move on, and
you've got the senators there about six years. I'm thinking,
when if you can't handle the job or get what
you need to go, you can't get your point across
in six years, you know, and you're still there thirty
seven years later.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I think it's not for you to go and say,
you know what, it's Miller time. It's not for you
to go.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
And I think that all of you Jurassic period politicians
that are up there in Capitol Hill you need you
need to go, really you need to retire, you need
to go and and uh relinquished that that seat. So
that way we have new leadership come in and uh
and take over. Thank you for your service, We applaud
(39:09):
you for your service. Right, But I think at some
point you have to guard. You have to allow for
for the new, the new generation to step in and
uh and take the helm. And I think it's really
really disgraceful, quite frankly for people to go and want
to stay in power. I mean, you've seen folks like
Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell and all
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and all.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
These folks that people are still talking, even even Alec.
She's been up there for a bit. I mean, it's like,
when do you guys leave? All Right?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
You know who's Alc? That Alexandro Ocassia for New York
and she's a she's parting the weekend. How you doing, Alc?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I know there's another one, love you, but you gotta go.
She hasn't been there long, yeah, tis something?
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, So I mean it's for me.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I'm thinking there's a place in a time for every
if you were elected by your constituents, whatnot?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
All right, do a good job and then leave.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
But I love it how you said Jurassic.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Jurassic period politicians, you know, Brannosaurs, Brannosaurus.
Bernie Sanders, great guy, he's got some good vision. But
I think that he will bank bankrupt the United States
with this idea of having free health care for everyone.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I mean, you're already yet how many trillion dollars now?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
I think we're like thirty eight trillion dollars now, and
it's ridiculous. Uh So that would really bankrupt America. We've
got to we've got to go and do something about
the economy. We've got to do something about the border, which.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
We have a plan for. Yeah. Uh and so we
have great ideas. Guys, I'm not America. I'm not I
just want to get this, this, this out off my chest.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
I don't have any animosity, your hatred towards any of
the politicians, politicians out there, regardless if you were there
for two years or thirty seven years plus, right, Like,
I don't have any hatred to you.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I'm just saying that this is not what America is about.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
This is this is not a monarchy, this is not
this is not Zimbabwe, Africa where you have folks like
President Mugabi that that wanted to hang on to power
for years and years since the Rhodesia era, before they
were even called Zimbabwe. This is America, and America belongs
to Americans. It doesn't belong to China. It doesn't belong
to Russia, it doesn't belong to Argentina, it doesn't belong
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to Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
It belongs to Americans. That's what it belongs to.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
So I think that Trump has did a lot of
good for the country, but I think that right now
the scales are tipping in the favor of him doing
not so nice things upon his own people. And this
goes way back even to his previous administration, how he
dealt with things like hurricane relief, for you know, after
Hurricane Maria really smacked Puerto Rico around, and how.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
You know that the after effects of that.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
So it's just things that you kind of you know,
pick out and and and and you have to be
mindful of this, this track record that he has, and
it's not just him. I think every politician that's been
in there for the last i'd say twenty years, you know,
has really done some outrageous things that were detriment to
not only American people, not only insulting to the American people,
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but contrary to the US Constitution.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That says so shoots. That was a good talk man,
that you did, Jay Torres. And this is a powerhouse podcast.
You'll hear stuff about the Latino leaders, music, entertainment, business, folks, everybody.
And I'm here with my old friend. I'm Ran and
don't forget. Go ahead and let the people know when
you're gonna run again, and then how they get a
(42:39):
hold of you.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
All right, So it's all about the American people, right,
This is not about Jay Torres. And by the way,
my full name is Jesus Torres and I go by
Jay JY. Yeah, all right, so that's number one. But
it's not about Jay Torres. It's not even about a party.
It's about the direction of our country. It's about understanding
that we cannot continue to have and watch this pendulum
(43:01):
screen between the Democrats and Republicans.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Back and forth.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
And definitely I know that there are other parties out there,
and for whatever reason, they've never been organized enough or
structured enough. We're gotten enough support to break through and
be a top contender. I think that the time is now.
I think that it is time for us to move
and shift gears and look at other alternatives, including an
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independent party, a brand new party called the New GP.
And so we're going to be taking a look and
gauging their responses back from the American people over the
course of the next six to eight months and see
what type of traction we're receiving. And if we see traction,
if we see something that's starting to really bubble up
(43:47):
and start becoming a lot more firmer, then we will
once again move right back into our presidential exploratory committee
mode and then further on become yet another president to campaign.
So at the at the very end and at the
very least, we will, and I say will create a
(44:09):
brand new political party. Regardless of the the outcome, we
will have a brand new party. And this is your party, America.
This is not my party. This is your party. This
is your country. So you should be a part of it.
And so I hope that you would consider our supporting
the New GP. You can if you have any interests
(44:31):
we do have. We are accepting those that want to
be part of our campaign team. There are volunteers that
can go and look for our advertisement on Indeed and
other and other avenues, and be a part of our
campaign committee. Volunteer sometime two or three hours a week,
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and just be a part of something bigger than us.
Imagine being in a room when the Republican Party started,
or imagine being a part of when the Democratic already started,
all the Whig Party way back then, right, imagine right
now you're at ground zero in the birthplace of a
brand new political party, and just that in itself is
just incredible.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Unfortunately for the other parties that tried to go and
get their manor cross, I believe that.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Mister uh, we had other contenders, like from the Green Party,
Jesse Van Truro's one of them. Oh yeah, Kennedy Actually
they tried to put place him before.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
But you know, folks, it didn't work out for whatever
whatever reason, they didn't work out for them.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
So it's not the Donkey or the Donkey's the Democrats, right, yes,
and then the republic Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
That's that's the lo Our logo has the American Eagle
on it, and I think that's a little bit of
representative than a jackass or a big elephant. The American
ego and you did you know the American eagle was
not actually our official national burden too recently.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Are Honestly, it was not actually.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Our our our bona fide until uh national bird yet,
the American egle. But now it is.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
I think it's happened not too recently.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
All this time, I thought that was official bird.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah, yeah, everyone kind of because you know, when my
uncle was.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Hunting one time, he was hunting for you shooting birds.
They go, hey, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute.
He told everybody hunting hunters, don't shoot that bird. That's
that's our that's American. Yeah, you're not gonna shoot this.
One guy said, what if I shoot it? They go,
then I'll have to shoot you. Because all these years
I've thought that that that was automatically I don't know
(46:40):
how many years ago. But it's a beautiful animal.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
So that is our, that is our. You know, on
our logo where has the appears the head of the
American eagle, just like right here, that's right, and so
just over that, over that on the logo that has
the new JP and so you know, I say, you why,
because we want to distinguish ourselves from the existing GOP
(47:05):
we have nothing to do with.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
So you're not part of the elephant party.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Not at all. We're not a part of that.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
I love it out. One's a jackass and one's the elephant.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
I don't know who can go about.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah, And you know it's funny cause the new GOP,
Like when you walk into a supermarket, do you go
to the counter and accent management, Hey, you know where's
the expired foods at?
Speaker 3 (47:28):
You know what walks into the market for expartment?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (47:30):
God, No.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
When you walk intomorrow and you look for the new iPhone,
do you say, hey, you guys, any you guys have
any iPhone twos or threes laying around?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
You do?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
You that you look for new stuff right, latest technology?
But the new GOP is all about new stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
We want to speaking about million We need to get
more Latino voters out there. Let me just bottom line
this man, I grew up in Texas, and when I
grew up there, every city that I visited and where
I grew up forty fifty and they got to the
points like San Antonio sixty percent and Latinos. The sad part,
hopefully now it's not the same when I was young,
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it was a frustrating thing. I would work on video projects,
campaigns and what was it getting the Latino vote. So
a couple of times I looked at the politicians, I
looked at the community leaders. I'm like, you know what,
you guys ain't gonna like this, man, but we need
to walk this whole neighborhood. They go, are you kidding me?
This is twenty miles. I said, well, let's split up
and do it, because we need to knock on doors
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man and give them a thing and get a register.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Them to vote.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Right, So we had people sitting down and we ended
up getting like thousands of people registered. Because I'm like,
what's the point of having all these numbers of people
and they're not they don't participate. Yeah, because remember, let
me say this, only you can make a difference in
your own community. And believe me, one vote counts because
if you multiply one vote times a million across the US,
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you have votes. Jay, Yeah, I told you. And I
like the fact that you're running man way. You can
bring up issues sure when you're on CNN.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
When you're on and I love to.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Come back on the show quite honestly, even either in person,
like we're doing now or you know, or you know,
over zoom or whatnot, because I think it's important. I
think it's important we carry this conversation forward. You know,
when I grew up in New York City, I was
I was born, you know, I was raised with the
notion that the Democrats are for the poor and the
Republicans are for the rich.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
That's all I thought. And that struck with me.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Yeah, I was like, it's got to be you know,
everything is straight down Democrat, Democrat, democrat. But you know,
you start learning when you start living in foreign countries
and being a lot more appreciative of the country you
live in. I've lived in Zimbabwe, i lived in Rwanda,
I've lived in El Salvador, I've lived you know, in Korea,
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and so you start really appreciating the the the rights
and the privileges that we have over here, and start
understanding that the Republicans and the Democrats is all.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
This is the one coin.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
You pull out a coin out of your pocket and
it's got two sides, one side of the Republicans, one
side of the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
They can't live without each other like that.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
And by the way, while we're listening, while we're talking
right here because I'm sorry, Jay, I've been who I
am for thirty something years. I'd like to say hi
to the jackasses that are listening, or the old elephants,
you know, listen.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
I've worked with I've worked with tremendous folks like former
President Jimmy Carter. May he rest in peace and habitat
for humanity. I met him and his wife, stellar people
visited their their their state and where they were raised
and whatnot in Georgia, and you know, and you needn't
see all these all these conspiracies and all these you know,
(50:51):
all these different negative and connotations with President Carter like
you've had with President Trump, I mean, or even President
even other president. And it's just so interesting how you're
just trying to go in and do your job and
yet you're inundated every day with a floy of people
that are just attacking you, attacking you, attacking you. I'd
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be the president that with no drama, Like I would
go in there like have no drama. I would like
to get in peace with everyone. I would like to
denuclearize the darn world if I could.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
I mean, uh, things like that. I wouldn't be I
wouldn't be out there.
Speaker 4 (51:27):
Creating so much havoc and unrest, certainly not within our
own country. And I think that we need to take
a step back, take a deep breath, and really think
and ponder can our country? Can our country make it
through another administration under the Republican rule? Or can our
country exist and go forward with with with under the
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Democratic Party wherever they put forth as their top dog.
We need to start looking at other at other parties,
and if not, I think why not just create your
own party, one that represents, like I said, the common man, the.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
New GOP, the new GOP.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
That's where it's at.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
All right, brother, we'll listening for a time. We're gonna
go ahead and wrap up, but keep listening to the
Powerhouse podcast. This is apecord of Thanks Bill, Thanks everybody.
What's up to candas out there listening? Keep doing your thing,
and don't forget. Get a hold of me at a Cortes.
My email is co r T e Z P R
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area code two five three the number three eight nine
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two two three four, and don't forget. People go out there,
register to vote, get involved. If whether you're going to
be running for the school board, city council, congressoon or
like Jay toder is running for President of the US Man.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
It's about time. That's it.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
That's cool man, all right, we're out of here like
last year.