The Founders Show #466

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Bite holes, and politicians addressed todigit datas and magicians troops to see the
money. Then you don't, there'snothing to feel the holes while then feeling
their pockets bite holes, the politiciansbouncing down the road. Every boy tuition

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to no more corruption and dysfunction.It's gonna take divide intervention. One man's
pork is another man's pleasure. TheLouisiana legislature is about to spend millions of
dollars is it the right spending?And the bill to have referendums in Louisiana
gets shot down, but the recallbill may be advancing. There are a

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lot of questions about chief executives bringingtheir people back to work. Is it
fair or logical? Alon Must saysit's an insult to working class people not
to do it. And there's pressurein President Biden to bring F sixteens to
Ukraine and it's being brought by theNetherlands. In Britain they want to give

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their F sixteens to Ukraine. Whatwill happen? And of course a little
thing about FBI and collusion and what'sgoing on in those reports that and more,
and of course whistle blos, whistblows and look at the space program
from the corridors of the Louisiana Boyus. All that and more in this edition
of The Founders Show, and Godbless all out there. You are now

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listening to the Founders Show, thevoice to the Founding Fathers, your Founding
Fathers coming to you deep within thebowels of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps
of the Big Easy and way highup on top of that old liberty cypress
tree draped and Spanish moss out onthe Eagles branch, is none other then

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you been Gary by Bau the RepublicChaplain Hi McHenry with Christopher Timorey, Roving
Reporter, Resident Radical Moderate and Associateeditor of The Louisiana Weekly at Louisiana Weekly
dot net and Ladies and Gentleman.The Louisiana legislature has been dealing with some
high profile issues. Of course,the abortion conversation came in in Louisiana.
A move to exempt rape and incestfailed. At the same time, there

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was a lot of national attention,of course, going on in North Carolina,
putting a twelve week ban after twelveweeks after the first trimester a ban,
but most of what this session isdealing with is not those hot button
issues. It's actually dealing with money. Now, there was one hot button
issue that got shot down. Itwas kind of interesting before we get into

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the money issue. Representive Mandy Landry, she represents the Uptown area. She
recently ran for the Senate lost narrowly. She's actually facing a very tough reelection
against a Republican turn Democrat, MadisonO'Malley, who is an attractive, sort
of moderate modern Democratic candidate. Bothof them per choice, both of them

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socially liberal, but you know they'vevarious. But one of the things that's
interesting about Mandy Landry is that she'svery much about public engagements. When she
says she's talking about trying to openup government, this is something that pisses
everybody off, Democrats and Republicans becauseshe actually means it. And one of
the issues that she's been pushing,and this has been pushed before in past

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years. Governor Mike Foster ran foroffice and it got his head handed to
him, which is to introduce areferendum system here in Louisiana similar to what
they have in California, where ifyou have enough signatures, you can put
something on the ballot and become statelaw. Believe it or not, we
actually have that in Orleans Parish.That's how we have term limits. It's
in the charter. But the lastperson to put a referendum on the ballot

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in Orleans Parish was Peggy Wilson,who got enough signatures to put in term
limits. For some reason, we'venever done it since then. Not really
sure why she wanted to institute itfor the state, and it was a
pretty easy threshold, about ten percentof registered voters. It got killed seven
to four in committee. Only oneRepublican voted with her, and it was

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because the Louisian Association of Business andIndustry is radically opposed to this concept.
You know, when you when yourlobbyists control a lot of the legislature high
you don't really want to lose thatkind of power, so you don't want
to be able to come out andactually be able to vaut. But what
was interesting was one of the criticsof the of the proposal came out and
he used something that would be notdissimilar to some of the conversations we have

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upon this show, and that is, of course the whole conversation of what
would the founders do and his argument. He starts reading it out of the
Federalist papers, talking about the conceptthat we are not a democracy, we
are a representative government, and thatyou know, people elect their representatives to

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make decisions. A very burkey andattitude about the nature the Edinburgh and the
letters the sheriffs of Bristol. Youyou you elect me not to do necessarily
your will, but to do whatI interpret is the right thing. And
you have the right to unelect mea few things. Right. Well,
the problem is, I don't knowmany politicians who are ignoring the public will,
except when the paychecks are pretty high, but except when the contributions from

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lobby or FLC or wherever are veryhigh. And folks, to pure democracy
is mob rule, and the mobis fickle. It'll change its thing mind
on a dime. When I'll berunning one way the next hour or the
next way. It's mass confusion,and out of that always rise as a
strong man who becomes a tyrant.So an ancient greets the word democracy was

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synonymous with the word tyrant. ButI will point out to you, so
that's why you need a republic.It's like putting a governor on a steam
engine. It keeps it under control, it doesn't blow up on it.
One of the points the founders broughtout that it was checks and balances.
Yeah, they did not believe thatyou had a unicameral legislature. They did
not believe that you had one house. They did not believe in direct democrat

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it directly representative consoles systems where youhad it and to balance shared power.
And what a referendum system ultimately doesis you're not replacing elected government, You're
creating another balance. I'll give youan example. In California, not exactly
known as a particularly conservative place,it is illegal to use race and racial

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preferences in state hiring and universities anywhere. This is the issue that's going to
the Supreme Court for everywhere else inthe country. But in California, Liberal
California, it is absolutely illegal.Why because the people of California had a
referendum twenty five years ago that saidthis, and it went to the courts
and it was challenged, and whenit came out and said well no,
you the people have voted, thepeople have spoken, it becomes a constitutional

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issue. And so what I wouldgive is that a referendum system here in
Louisiana would be the thing that weactually need, which is checks and balances,
because ultimately we do not have alegislature that it does much in checks
and balances. Define referendum again,please. A referendum is where, in
this context, the people themselves,by petition, can petition to put something

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on the ballot, and if thatis pasted, it becomes either a statute
or a constitutional amendment. And thereason I say either or is this because
the legislature does not have a problemwith referendums as long as they initiate it,
right, I mean, think aboutthis for a second, ladies and
gentlemen. I literally went into alibrary the other day and I asked for

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a copy of the Louisiana Constitution,and you know what they said, Hi,
we don't have the magazine. I'msorry, sir, we don't carry
periodicals. I've tried this joke before, but it's true. The fact in
the matter is we've amended the LouisianaConstitution. I think it's two hundred and
forty seven times. I mean,I've seen we're going to banana Republican,

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We've we passed anannimal public. Whereasthe point is, we did that because
legislators don't want to vote on anissue, so they pass it to the
public. Well, how is thatnot a referendum system. It's just they
got the power to put something ina ballot. All I'm saying is,
look, if I'm a person,I want to head the power to put
something on a ballot. And thatgets into the argument about what is going
on in Baton Rouge with the moneythat's being spent. Look, I'm the

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first one to say Louisiana has majorinfrastructure problems. We got collapsing roads,
we need new bridges, the wholeworks. But I ask you high are
of the forty three point eight millionthat is being spent on local pet projects
that's coming out of the House.There's gonna be an equal amount coming out
of the Senate. So we're gonnatalk about over one hundred million dollars probably

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on pet projects. And Folks,we're not talking about poodles and cats and
potbelli pig Vietnamese potbellar pigs that arethe pets of all these legislators that they
want to lavish our tax money on. Talking about that, we're talking about
someone's little private, special thing theywant. This is pe this is pork
coming to your own district. Hesaid. Thirteen point two million of that

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forty three million, nearly a thirdof the total, is going to three
parishes, the home parishes of HouseSpeaker clayshack Snyder, House Speaker pro Tem
Tanner McGee and House Appropriations Committee Chairmanjerome Z Zerrang and House Ways and Means
Committee Chairman Stewart Bishop. What they'redoing, I mean, some of this
they're spending. Think about that,Listen to some of this stuff behind.

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I mean, it's just it completelyblows my minds. They're actually one million
for a Homa Restoration District traffic studythat to say how buildings in downtown Homa
could better withstand hurricanes in the future. I'm not saying that's not useful,
but Homa compared to the rest ofthe state. McGee is one point three
million for pet funding for the terribleand parish sheriff's office to deal with facilities

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damage. Hey, I think weneed to fix ricane damage, but never
other parishes they have to fix theirown sheriff's office. We got to raise
money for it. Another million forthe Youngsville Sports Complex and Lafayette arguing it's
a statewide destination for youth. Bythe way, we're building another sports complex
in Westwego that has been funded inthe last budget by John Lario. You

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remember John Lario used to be Senatepresident. He's doing all that. In
New Orleans East, they want tobuild a sports complex and these have become
major economic draws. It draws kidsfrom all over, multiple sports fields inside
things they nobody in the state isputting up any money for them. I
use this example of how pork moneycan be unfair. On the West Bank.

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John Lario, who was the mostpowerful man in state government about to
marry Edwind and was his widow,but he was a House speaker forever,
the Senate president for twelve years.He got forty thirty two million dollars to
build the TPC golf course, andthat was a private golf course. Then
he turned around and they ran outof money, so he got another ten

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million to buy it and making astate course. He got roughly fifty million
dollars. As directly across the riverin Harihan, there was a golf course
called Colonial. Now, for thosethat don't know this, Colonial had played
two roles. It was a golfcourse, but it was the only green

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space in Harhan, and so itwas a water catch basin in close of
the storm. Anybody knows that thearea right next to the river kind of
dips low. So while mostly areanear the river's high are the neighborhoods,
they within say ten blocks of theriver in certain places go lower. That's
the whole pump of the river.So this stop flooding. And the people
of Harhan said, look this golfcourse. They owe seven million dollars on.

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Lawrence Lonsala, a former councilman,is willing to sell it to us
at cost for just what the loanis. Can we get any money just
so we can keep it running asa golf course, or if you don't
want us to run us a golfcourse, we're running at a park or
run however, as long as wecan keep a green space so we can
catch water and we have a placethat otherwise people can enjoy. The same
time, the state was writing aforty million dollar check for the West Bank,

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they wouldn't write a dollar for theEast Bank. Now, why is
it the East Bank's immoral? Nowit's just that it didn't have a powerful
legislator, and so sometimes the moneythat comes in can be very powerful.
When John Hankel was sent at PresidentFrankly, anything uptown New Orleans or the
East Bank of Jefferson wanted it got. It's all about power. The problem

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is sometimes you need money for otherthings. And one of the controversies we're
talking about, of course, isa teacher pay raise. We're spending what's
going to work out to two hundredmillion dollars in these projects, and we're
not raising teacher paid by a dollar, nor are we paying off state debt,
which is what the opponents a teacherpay want to do. We're spending
the money and are we building abridge that's going to benefit people across the

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board? Are we doing anything?No, we're funding worthwhile projects. Very
few port parrel projects are not worthwhile, but they're not something that impacts people
across the state. And that's thefundamental problem when you have a surplus,
because here's the fact of life,folks. Next year, there is a

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halfpenny sales tax point four five percentsales tax that is rolling off. At
the same time, we're losing allof the pandemic money and We're losing the
last bit of post Katrina money andVP money, and you know what happens
when all that goes away. Look, the state of Louisiana will be in
a two to three billion dollar deficit. We're going to be in a terrible

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economic condition. There is a rumorgoing about that. Part of the reason
John Bell Edwards put Sean Wilson upattractive democrat and an African American running for
governor as a Democrat is because hewants Jeff Landry to actually win, face
a massive deficit and then come backand save the day. For those that

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say, oh, that's not goingto happen, I refer you to the
fact that it literally already historically happenedin Louisiana with a guy named Edwards.
He got he didn't want Jimmy Fitzmorristo win a moderate Democrat. He wanted
Louis Lauren Seller to go against whoDave Trane, a Republican. Dave Trane
gets elected, He's in office forfour years, the state goes from surplus
to deficit, and a guy namedEdwards is able to march back in the

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governor's office. I don't blame hiwhen John bell Edwards. We're facing a
deficit, and you know, wedon't have a lot of money. He
doesn't want the halfpenny sales tax togo away. Nobody wants it to stay
in Republican or Democrat because it's atax and it affects poor people. But
fiscally, we cannot survive as astate. And that's the one thing this

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fiscal session of a twenty twenty threelegislative session is not doing, actually dealing
with the fiscal nature and situation ofLouisiana. Anyway. Wow, Christopher Well
got a lot to think about here, folks, and you better be praying
for your state and your politicians.But I was just to pray for them
that they might be peace and quietin the land, that the rule and

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righteousness, that there might be peaceand quiet. What have you ever known
a politician rule in righteousness? Theyactually work hard. I mean, I
don't think, believe it or not, most politicians are not crooked. But
rule in righteousness is not something youhear. Most Most politicians are crooked.
And I've worked in a few yearsin politics, you know ultimate too many.
I mean, so all these politicianswant to build something in their districts

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they want to bring in a porkbower project where I feel this hard.
You don't have to just pay majorteacher pay. There can be small things.
One of the things that happened iswe had to solicit at the Louisiana
State Museum. For those that don'tknow, I said, as a member
of the board of the director Boardof Directors of the Louisiana State Museum,
we had to try to find seventyfive thousand dollars to put in a fire

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alarm system in the main building ina thousand charters to be able to detect
fire because you need that, youknow, like to be ensured and to
not have fire. You realize howabsurd it is that we had. We
have a collection that's worth maybe thirtyor forty million dollars are minimum, and
the state wouldn't give us seventy fivethousand dollars for a fire alarm system,

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so we had to raise it.And this is a state building. We
can't do anything without the approval ofstate government, of the Governor's office,
of the legislature within it. It'snot And this is why I'm saying where
pork barrel pologist comes in you don'tend up managing or taking care of the
things that are really your responsibility becauseit's just not sexy. It doesn't get
you any votes to put that inso right anyway, folks, when we

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come back, a little word aboutthe space program in New Orleans, we
always kind of talk about it.But Hi was the man on the scene
at the Mishue facility today and he'sgoing to talk a little bit about what
he learned about the Artemis rockets thatwill be going to the Moon being assembled
right now, right in New Orleans. Folks. Folks, if you're going
to the Moon, you're going toMars, you're going out of space,
you first have to go through NewOrleans. I'll explain later. Back right

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I want you to know Christopher andI always working so very hard to bring
you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And
folks, you're ready to go toout of space. The truth is we

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are actually heading back to the moon, right And that's something so we've talked
so much about this. We've talkedabout how the Artemis Rocket was going to
be doing this project to the Psycheasteroid. We've got so much mail about
that, and clean somebody who saidthis would ruin the economy of the planet
if everybody was able to be wortha billion dollars, and I said,
well, what a wonderful problem tohave. What you were doing was going

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to the Meeshoe Facility, for thosethat don't know, the largest building in
the United States without any obstruction inIt is in New Orleans, East,
and you walk through it today,it's it's the road through it. You
don't want to walk through it.It takes for it there all day long.
It's it's it's the rocket assembly.It's where the Apollo rockets were done,
and where the New Artemis. It'sabout forty five acres all under one

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roof, and the roofs is anywherefrom fifty feet to two hundred feet.
It's an amazing building. It's absolutelyone of the most amazing buildings I've ever
seen or been in. Like Chrissaid, it's the largest one in America.
And it was built of all times, in World War Two. And
it was built for Higgins, notto build boats, but to build wooden
planes. Higgins was a lumberman.He came to Louisiana for the lumber industry,

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and while I was here he startedbuilding boats for the trappers and hunters.
And then you know the rest ofthe story. But in this case,
they had hired him and tasked him, got contracts with him to build
transport planes out of wood really,and he built them, but they would
build a few of them, andthen the Army would kill it, you
know, the government with whatever reason, the Defense Department shut then the program

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down. And then of course he'scontinued to make his boats. Of the
Higgins boats that won the war.According to Churchill and Eisenhower, they both
made the comment, and that wasbecause without the Higgins boats, we could
have never delivered the men and thematerials to the beaches for amphibious landings.
It would have never worked. SoHiggins books the Louisiana flatboats that were adopted

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to be landing cards, right exactly. And well, Higgins builds this facility,
but what it catches attention after thewar for aerospace and eventually it's radically
expanded. And that's where each ofthe different rockets from Mercury, Saturn,
eventually Apollo would be put together.And it's also where the external fuel tanks
the Space Shuttle would be built.And now Apollo's twin sister. You know

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who apolos twin sister is, Artemis. Yes, yes, it's everybody wonders
where does the name come from?If you think about it, Artemis is
the largest launcher that the United Stateshas made since Apollo. Right, the
difference is every time you launched anApollo rocket. It was equivalent to building
ten seven forty seven's and then burningthem up. You launch an Artemis rocket.

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It's just like the space s rockets. It goes up, gets in
orbit, comes back and lands again. It's totally reusable, and it's the
power of an Apollo rocket. It'swhat's supposed to get us to the Moon.
Now you saw this up up front. Their massive, aren't they.
Yeah. And by the way,folks, it's open to the public,
and you can't just go down there. The MESHU is open issue. Yeah,
you have to plan on the tour. But they want people to come

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there. They say, we're thebest kept secret in New Orleans, and
we don't want to be the bestkept secret. We want everybody to know
about us here. So they're veryopen and willing to have tourists or anybody
come down and see this magnificent facility. And and folks, I mean it.
If you were going into outer spaceon planet Earth over the past hundred

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years, to do it, youhad to go through New Orleans via Meshu.
You were on a rocket that wasassembled here and tested at the Center
Space Center right over the border,right right, and then shipped and that's
why Mishu is where why they choosethe meshe facilities. Not it's because what's
right next to it is a dockand a bayou that goes straight into the

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gulf. You could go by byIntracoastal Canal, one of the largest canals
in the world. And so andthe reason I said, you got to
see, hi, how incredibly impressive, how massive the Mashoe facility is,
how much it does. And yetyou also notice something. All the area
around is kind of desolate, isn'tit. Oh yeah, Now, no

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reason I say, oh yeah,yeah, what happens in other NASA facilities.
Go to Huntsville. Huntsville was aspoorer place as New Orleans, was
much poor, filled with subdivisions,but also a lot of as but aerospace
industries that spun off of the HuntsvilleSpace Center. It's so sophisticated that Trump

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wanted the Space Command headquarters to bethere. And it's a big fight going
on between Colorado Springs and Huntsville rightnow. But no one said, hey,
let's put Space Command headquarters in NewOrleans. Because here we've got literally
the largest rocket assembly in the world. And when you build a rocket you
need welders, you need and guesswhat the finest welders in the world are
from South Louisiana. I learned thattoday also exactly and you need But think

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about all this, all the componentsfor that rocket. Now, some of
this is politics. Um, let'sbeef blunt an Artemis rocket. It's it's
a private rocket, it's a Boeingrocket, but it is a government funded
project, whereas say SpaceX is notgovernment funded. And there's a control there
of the government, you know,a joint venture control, a commanded control

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over it all. And there's there'sa side effect that slows down the space
program. We can talk about asecond. But all the components, there's
a political side and you want everydistrict to have something. But having said
all of that, when it comesright down to it, we have done
a terrible job in New Orleans ofsaying, hey, let's bake these components,
let's bring these people out. Umthey've even done a better job at

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Stennis right over the border of usingtechnologies. And I remember at one point
there's a special type of heat insulationthat was created for the Space Shuttle,
and somebody got it at Tennis andthey started using it to insulate homes,
and it's one hundred percent efficient inall this, and they create a whole
industry out of it, and yetit was actually made. It's something near

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Mishue, that's at least on theGulf coast. We've never been able to
take spinoff industries of anything good wehave. Yeah, it's but even think
of our port. It's a port. Ports a perfect world. And we
have the greatest water set of wealthin the world coming up and down the
river every year. How much ofit do we get? Almost nothing?
Almost nothing. It goes everywhere elseports. They build facilities and things to

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help capture that. Well, Idon't mean steal it, but I mean
somebody to develop it in that cityor in that if you're going to just
let it come and go, andif you're gonna if you so we we
we have the largest, as ahigh said, the largest port between the
area between Baton Rouge and the mouthof the Mississippi River. That entire port
system I including Port fush On,is the largest port in the world.

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But we've done two things. They'rereally bad. One, we've never figured
out how to gonner the sports andall that raw materials coming in and make
manufacturing out of it. The onlything that we managed to do is roast
coffee. Ninety percent of the world'scoffee is actually roasted at the Folger's facility
in New Orleans East. But otherthan that, I mean, how absurd

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is that we have the largest trainintromodal system in the world with railheads,
the most railheads of any city inAmerica. What are we doing with it?
Nothing? And this is an example, and part of the reason is,
Look, this is one thing thatcame up in the legislative session.
We have six different ports. Theycan't even agree on what to do with

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the former Avondale facility. One wantsto buy it, another wants to stop
the purchase. They can't even work. They go to other cities. They're
competing against each other, their feetaway from each other. People are saying,
wait, what's going on. Whycan't you get it? Folks,
let me offer something no one wouldsay. The politics of New Jersey are
terribly functional. But compared to Louisiana, my god, it's Singapore. Because

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what did New Jersey do? Theysaid, this was three deck four decades
ago. We have a port,and wow, there's a port, right
on the other side of the Hudsoncalled New York. You know, it's
kind of stupid that we're competing.Let's two separate states. Let's work together.
They merge their port and they said, it's one port we worked at.
We were where the port where thetranslates. It's two states that manage

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to do that. We can't inone state get three parishes to work together.
And that's part of the reason wehave this lack of ability to coordinate.
And it's really pathetic. I mean, the space program is a good
example. The port's a good example. I can bring it in. We
do not use our resources terribly well. I do hope people will go to
Misshu. I think it's a Ithink it's a sin that we don't bring

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every school child we should in NewOrleans. It really good. God,
it would leave an indeuble impression everykid in a steady Just what kid doesn't
love rockets. I mean seriously,it would give them a vision and a
hope for what they can do withtheir own lives and their own careers.
They may not go into space industry, but it just invigorates people and motivates
them to see this amazing thing andBy the way, folks, when Higgins

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first started, he was building planesthere, not boats, planes, wooden
planes. He'd come down Louisiana fromin Kansas in the lumber industry. And
while he was here to you know, dealing with lumber, but buying and
sell lumber whatnot, he had processedagain all that he realized that fishermen and
the hunters and trappers and they neededsmall boats. So they started building small

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flat boats. That eventually gave himthe vision for the Higgins Boats to World
War two and uh, but hedidn't build boats there. He built planes.
Wouldn't transport large wooden transport planes likethe like Howard Hughes his plane,
the Spruce Bruce, which was agiant plane made out of spruce wood,
which actually flew it did, butthey never they they got and dropped the

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program, just like they dropped allthe plane programs that Higgins was doing.
And he had built this huge facility, but it paid off because eventually NASA
was able to get it well.And a lot of our post war expansion
was based on factories that were federallyfunded that were built and used later on.
So it's a part of the storyof the post war environment we don't

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often talk about. But speaking offederal funding of planes, I want to
transition for a second. Now,you probably heard you've been in the military
most of your life high I mean, you served twenty years active, pretty
much active. You don't know alot of plan about planes because you jumped
out, jumped out of them,never flew on my jumped Well, you
didn't jump out of an F sixteen, but you often had F sixteen's next
to you as you were as youwere jumping, you knew him very well.

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But you also know that F sixteensare being phased out in favor of
the F thirty five. Well,we have all these F sixteens, but
so do the Brits and the neatererLanders, the Netherlanders, the Dutch.
We're trying to get into the Ukraine, right Well, no, well that's
the problem. So the British arelike, hey, we want to give
our F sixteens to Ukraine. TheDutch are like, we want to give

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our F sixteen to Ukraine. TheGermans are and the Belgians are like,
we want to give our F sixteensto Ukraine. They're all buying our thirty
fives. It is in our interestfor them to give away the F sixteens
if for no other reason, Iforget Ukraine. We make what a billion
and a half dollars every time wesell a Boeing F thirty five. Right,
Joe Biden has said no because Ithink this will escalate. And here's

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why the problem is. He says, you can do whatever you want with
your F sixteens, your property,but we have the right to train people
for F sixteens. You signed acontract, so we will not train the
Ukrainians to use them to be pilotsin the F sixteen. And everybody's looking
at this and saying this is absurd. Now, I mean, you wonder

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about my arguments against Trump, myorgans and biders equally, how do you
outfit a war and outfit only likeone hand behind the back. The Ukrainians
are facing a major Russian offensive.They are trying to plan a major counter
offensive. They need planes. Ifthey do not get land this year,
it takes about a year to trainand pilot. They will need a massive

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aerial defense network that goes beyond thePatriot missiles that very effectively defended against hypersonic
rockets in Kiev. Just a weekago. But they'll need it. And
here's the upside of it. Yougive you you train Ukrainians on f sixteen's
guess what happens. They're going towant to buy American technology. They want
to They're gonna be American. They'reusing American equipment. And this is the

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other part what they're fighting for,folks, that nobody in the national media
seems to bring up, is whydo the Russians want to control that strip
to Crimea? Well, part ofits cultural obviously part of it, they
want to control the access to it, but a lot of it is there's
a trillion dollars worth of oil underthe Sea of ats offt the area between

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Crimea and Georgia. There is ahuge amount of money that is at stake,
money that the Ukrainians, if theywin, will have access to.
And what are they going to wantto do by military technology from the United
States to be able to defend themselves. And so Joe Biden saying we don't
want to escalate the war, butwe want to outfit Ukraine. I got
news for you, Vladimir Putin,does not make some moral distinction between hey,

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you gave them an M one aone tank, but you won't give
them an F sixteen. His attitudeis, you're outfitting my enemy who I
want to kill, so therefore youare my enemy. Why do you play
games with us? Now? Mycriticism of Trump has been he doesn't want
to outfit the Ukrainians at all.He said that, But when I get
into all of this, I said, what is the half rate? You

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understand my frustration about my two choiceswhen I talk about this, because I
look at this, I'm saying,you either fight a war or you don't.
Now we have the rare opportunity thatalmost never comes in human history of
fighting a war and not risking onefreaking American soldier. We get to beat

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our major geopolitical adversary, who ifwe fought them, they would go nuclear.
But we get to beat them byjust giving technology. That guess what
it's you know what the law?And this goes back to what you're saying.
You know what the law that isauthorizing the giving of materials to Ukraine
is. You know what it's called? No, it's the nineteen forty lend

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Lease law. Lend Lease is howwe outfitted the British and ultimately the Soviets
against the Nazi Germ rand len leaseis a loan. We give you the
material and you pay us back forit. You know when the British paid
back the last of the loans fromlen Ley's for all the war material we
gave them last year twenty twenty.You're not wrong. And so this is

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something that economically, this is technologywe're going to throw away. We are
not using F sixteens anymore. Whynot give them to Ukraine to help them
defend themselves. And this is howcrazy the geopolitical situation is. We don't
want to irritate the Russians, heightI don't know if they're already irritated.
And Christopher, I understand now.I don't know how correct this information is,

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but it's come from pretty good sources. Source as I cannot reveal on
the radio show. Folks have atop secret clearance sci so I have contacts
and information coming into me that maybemost people don't have. Anyway, what
I've heard is that, and youknow, I don't know if this is
a good information or not, butlet me throw it out there that Putin

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is pretty much done in. Heknows he's lost, and he's just trying
to look for an honorable way toexit and get what he can get out
of it. But he realizes it'sover with him. He didn't accomplish his
mission. It's just too late forhim. Now do you know nothing about
that. I've heard this rumor aswell. And to be honest with you,
you wouldn't put three hundred thousand peoplein trenches to defend don Bass.

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Looking ask in Balcadore if you're justthinking you're done, unless you're trying to
make a good show for the otheroligarchs. Well, but here's the thing,
the ultimate thing is Vladimir Putin hasto win or die. The question
is what is the definition of winningthe Russians. Russians have never given up
in a war until they have lostfive hundred thousand people. That's true throughout

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their history. It's not until youlose about a half a million people.
Of the Russians thrown in the twelhe used to be that was a lot
of people. But you know,the Russians had a lot of people.
Now the active youthful population that canbe drafted is about seven million. The
Russians have a terrible demographic problem,as bad as the Japanese, bad as

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the Chinese Russians have seen more outmigration, immigration instead of immigration, instead of
immigration, people leaving, and it'sgotten worse since the war. And Putin's
trying to hold onto enough of theterritory of Marriagi Pole in the area until
north of Crimea to justify that hegained something and that he can live to
fight another day. And literally,note, I say, hi, McHenry

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live because if Vladimir Putin loses thiswar, the Russians have a very distinct
way of dealing with their leaders wholose wars. It usually involves suicide by
thirty bullets in the back of thechest. You know. It's like,
it's a very distinct way. AndVladimir Putin is kind of where he's going
to get be done in. Literally, So no, I don't know.

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I don't agree with that in thesense that he I think he's trying to
hold on what he has. Idon't think he's trying to push on to
Kiev anymore. But um, butno, I don't think I think this
war has got another two or threeyears. Really. Yeah, I hate
to say it. I think it'sright. It's it's it's basically fought to
exhaustion to um. This is thelast year that the Ukrainians are going to

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have a chance to reclaim territory,which they've done very effectively in the Balcadore
pocket. They've managed to surround theRussians who are defeating them. They managed
to put through there's a chance theycould push to Magropole. But what's going
to happen this year is we're goingto start feeling the effex of the Ukraine
War. And this is something alot of people are talking about, but
most people are ignoring. Well,let me put it this way, ninety

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percent of the potash in the worldeverywhere but in the United States comes from
the eastern part of Ukraine, inthe area that's been devastated. Seventy percent
of the fertilizer in the world,eighty percent of the neon that is used

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for semiconductors. What happens when allthe fertilizer that keeps people growing food in
Africa and Asia and China suddenly goesaway. It's not going to affect the
United States. We make We're oneof the only places on Earth that makes
most of its fertilizer. We haveit. The only thing we don't make
is potash and we get that fromthe Canadian so you know, it's really

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not an import situation. We havetwelve percent in the they happen out near
the canyon Lands area. They haveit, but it's but it doesn't matter.
We get the remains from like fromAlberta. It's it's not a big
deal everywhere else in the world.We're going to be feeling the effects of
the Ukraine War for the first time. Food prices, which have been drastically
low most of our life, ifyou've noticed, has been going up.

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It's not they're going up at twicethe rate of inflation. And that's because
people know that a lot of thefertilizer that is that's GW for next year
has gone. And then the mostbasic thing, why is the Ukrainian flag
blue and gold. Blue stands forsky, gold stands for wheat. Guess
what hasn't been growing in Ukraine sincethe war started the world exactly. So

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this war is about to impact peoplewell beyond and it's that's why I come
back to the issue. We shouldbe given the Ukrainians everything short of nuclear
weapons. We need Ukraine's economy forso many different things, and we don't
need this war to go on.We need the Russians to be isolated enough
because the Russians aren't just going toquit. So that's that's my long answer

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to No, I don't think that'strue, but not because he doesn't want
to quit, but because he doesn'tknow how to win. I do want
to you brought up. You've beenwatching the hearings um at the Dunbar and
the FBI probes, and you know, one of the things that has happened
is it was as critical as I'vebeen of Trump, I've also been critical

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of Biden. And some of thestuff that goes in on these probes of
the FBI does not make things lookgood. I mean, this is what
I heard today with the whistleblowers.It was they will focused, as far
as I know, for most ofthe morning, they will focused on the
whistleblowers, and it's it's amazing tohear what these people have a revealing,
and they're following the rules and regulationsjust exactly according to the whistleblower laws,

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which are very important for us becauseit means that if we have a bad
agency and then someone in there whowants to you know, really a patriot
who really wants to stand for Americans, willing to come out and tell the
whole truth about what's going wrong wehave. We have a chance of fixing
it. We have a chance ofdiscovering it and fixing it. And that's
exactly what these people did. They'reabout a dozen of them, I think

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they were by seven or eight.I'm on the stand today, and it
was amazing to hear what they arerevealing. And it's also amazing to hear
how the resistance that's coming from theDemocrat Party. They're doing everything they can
to shut these people down. Andit's also amazing to see how the FBI
breaking all their rules themselves, theleadership breaking their rules and REGs, trying

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to destroy these people, and everyway you can think of, you know,
destroying them financially, destroying their reputations, even attacking their own families,
doing everything they can to destroy thesepeople. And yet they've stood strong.
They're not backing down, and theyare found they haven't broken no law.
They're following the rules and regulations.And Christopher, what is coming out here

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is very shocking. And I willsay that there is a real chance of
a church commission kind of a thing. You know this having been in intelligence
before they changed the way the CIAworked. But I think there's a there's
a bigger issues. So what ishappening in a global political context in the
in the US right now, it'sof course the debt limit. You've got

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Biden on the one hand, forthe first time. There are some Democrats
who come out and saying, waita second, that there's some stuff about
this FBI. First we look ata lot of a Commission report that says
a lot of the Russian stuff wasactually overblown. And at the same time,
you know, the accusations were overblown. And at the same time,
we've got this political engagement that isdangerous. And there's some Democrats.

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What's the other thing that's happening.You have several Democrats who are normally who
are moderates, but we're normally prettysympathetic to the White House. And of
course John Tester of Montana comes firstin mind. But you've got those like
Mansion and others who are saying returnedto Title forty two. And you've got
the border situation and the surge ofthe border, and what's happening in the

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middle of this, You've got thedebt limit fight, and Kevin McCarthy,
I got to give him credit.And the reason I give them credit partially
is because of Louisiana Congressman Garrett Grapes, who's managed to hold the Republican Caucus
together. You're finding out that thedebt limit is going to be a you're

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gonna You've already got progressives led byBernie Sanders, who are saying that this
isn't They're using the words like thisis insane. The Biden administration is about
to sell us out. And partof the reason this is happening is because
you have the Done Report and thewhistle blowers, you have titled forty two,
and the Biden administration has to dosomething to pass this because right now

(43:35):
it's losing the political battle and ifthey don't, and I think what you're
going to see, honestly, issomething like a work requirements for receiving government
benefits, which the left really hatesbut Biden can kind of live with.
And it's it's it's it's a it'sa political it's a it's a tripartite political
danger that Joe Biden's in the middleof. To make it short, I

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didn't say really what the whistle blowerswas saying. But what they're doing is
they're bringing out and they've got they'vegot a proponerance of evidence of how the
FBI and other agencies, but it'sprimarily the FBI because these so far they're
all FBI agents that they are weaponizingthe eye the FBI against UH. Basically
the Democrats political opposition is what they'redoing, and it's it is wrong,

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folks. This is what the Nazisdid, this with, the Costapo does
this with communists that UH that Ustashidid and the German the secret police of
Eastern Germany, and on and onand on. It is very wrong,
and it will destroy our country,will destroy the constant before before we before
we have there's a lot of hearingsleft it had, and before we take
down the FBI. And I've alwaysand i've always and I've always said,

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the average FBI agent is uh isa is a young man raised by Jesuits
who couldn't handle going to the priesthoodbecause he couldn't do that celibacy thing,
so he joined the FBI. Ifound them to be of the highest moral
character. But so my point being, I've i've worked. My point being,
there's a lot left to say,but we've a confidential informant for it.

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I love. I mean, I'vegotten one very well personally with the
FBI. And it's not the wholeFBI. It's just affused And it's the
leadership that's the danger part. It'sthe leaders who are creating this new gastapo
in America. Well, I thinkthat's a little harsh of a term to
say, but I will say froma political standpoint, we're seeing the first
chinks in the are of the Bidenadministration, and a lot of people in

(45:27):
the Democratic Party are not paying attentionto a very dangerous political situation. Joe
Biden's in poles. The poles areeven with Trump at this point. I
still think Biden's got an advantage.We've talked about it in other shows,
but that advantage can go away realquick. And that, I'll say the
other thing. That's part of thereason why people like me are supporting the
new labels and saying we need anotherchoice besides um, you know, Biden

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and Trump. Maybe a mansion,but we'll see about all that, because
we got we gotta mansion our wayinto our final break and the patriotic moment
right after these important messages. Staytuned well, folks. Since Chaplin hih
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and tell them you heard it hereon the Founders Show. It's not time
for us to go in our chaplainby patriotic moment as you just take a
brief time to show you the Biblicalfoundations for our country, our Judeo Christian
jurisprudence. And of course you werelistening to the Founders Show, and this
is chaplain, Hi McHenry, Andtoday I want to quote our first Supreme

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Court Justice John J. Who said, Providence has given to our people the
choice of their rulers, and itis a duty as well as a privilege
and interests of our Christian nations toselect and prefer Christians for their rulers.
Folks, I believe he wanted tokeep God in government. Did you know
that the two largest churches in earlyAmerica for the first like twenty years of

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the government in our country up untilthe eight the War of eighteen twelve.
The two largest churches were in Washington, d C. One I met in
the Supreme Court Building, the otherone met in the capital. Folks,
I think our finding fathers really believedin the need to keeping God in government.
And I mean folks, I don'tmean institutionally, I mean philosophically.

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They did not want an institution institutionalconnection between God and government. They knew
that didn't work. That state religion. They didn't want that. But what
they wanted was the motivation and theinspiration that we can get from the Bible
from God and the literal supernatural supportGod will give us, and the way
He will bless us. You know, God bless America. He will bless

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us and keep us going well.Folks. What about you? Is God
blessing you and keeping you going well. I'm gonna take now just another short
while to show you how that youcan know that you know that you know
you know God and He knows you. You know, folks, when you
get right on to it, it'sjust all about love. The Bible says
God loves you with an everlasting love, and God really does love you,

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but you know loves the two waystreet. You can't just be one way.
If it's one way, it's nothing. There has to be two people
that are connected by love and theyboth love one another. Well, how
do you love God? He lovesyou. I'll tell you how he loves
you. He loves you because hebecame a man. That man's name is

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the Lord Jesus Christ, God theSon. He became a man to take
care of your two big love problems, sin and death. When he died
on the cross for all of yoursins and the day you're born, of
the day you die, your tiniest, your greatest sins, he resolved.
He took care of your sin problem. The Bible says he washed him all
away with his blood. This problemfixed. Next problem death, And I'm

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talking about the second death, whichis tied into the first one, but
it's the real issue here is thesecond death, and that means where you
go to hell and you exist asa zombie, the walking dead forever.
Folks, you don't want to gothere. God didn't want you to go
there. In fact, he madeheaven for you. The bole says he
made hell for devils, for sin, for death. But sadly, the

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scripture says hell is being enlarged it'sbeing made bigger because people spend their entire
lives rejecting God's love up into thevery end, and then there's no hope.
They go to where God is not. It's called hell. Don't go
there, folks. In just amoment, you can decide you and realize
that you cannot save yourself. That'scalled repentance. Repentance means you change your

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mind about your disposition before your creator, your disposition of yourself, the fact
that you are hopeless and helpless withoutGod. There's no righteousness in you.
The scripture says, all of yourrighteousness are as filthy ranks. But we're
being compared with God, and God'sso far ahead of us. Is no
comparison. So quick trying to cleanup your life, fix your life,

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you know, provide some form ofrighteousness to God. It won't work.
Quit give it up. When youdo. That's called repentance. You've just
repented. You've changed your mind realizingyou cannot save yourself. You're just not
good enough. And the moment youdo that, you're free to put faith
alone in Christ alone. You're freeto believe that only He can, that
he did, and that He willsave you. From a burning hell and

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guarantee you everlasting life because He diedfor all your sins, was buried in
rose in to day. If you'venever done that before, folks, do
it now. The scripture says,now today is the day of salvation.
And like the old contropator said,don't wait till it's too late. Well,
folks, there's another thing that's comingon down the line, and I'm
talking about the end times. Jesusis coming back, really really soon.

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He gave us many signs. Oneof the signs are earthquakes and volcanoes.
Do you realize that one hundred yearsago there was only like one earthquake every
year and volcano. Do you knowthat today there there's one at least a
volcano every day going off with theaccompanying earthquake. Folks, that sign is

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being fulfilled, along with so manyothers. They're over two hundred. And
the key to this whole thing iswhat Jesus said, when you see all
these things coming together at the sametime, not spread out over decades or
one hundreds of years. They haveto all come together and be happening all
at the same time. When yousee that happening, then he says,
I'm even at the door. Thatmeans he's coming very soon. Jesus is

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coming back to this earth very soon. Are you ready to meet him?
He wants to see you, Hewants to be best friends with you.
So make him. You're a bunkerin these trying times, if you're a
safe house, if you're a prepper, your bunker. Make him your safety
net. And when you do,you're guaranteed protection for eternity. So,

(52:57):
folks, have you never done thissport? Do it now? Well?
Fortunate this time for us to go. As we close with a mind Saint
Martin singing a crill goodbye and Godbless all out there. Does this have
to be the end of the night? No, I love you. In
the paymal Land, I can seeacross the million stars looking your we can

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moosey. It's the song of time. I suppose you can call it a
crap. If we take just alet a longer to see our good,

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we call it queer good.