Daniel Logan (Star Wars)

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Speaker 2 (01:07):
Thank you everybody, Thank you glad to be here with you,
Jim for being here, Thank.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
You for being here, Abyssinia really appreciate thanks for being here.
Thanks for being here. We we accidentally were interesting a
minute ago before we started, before we started recording, So
we're gonna just rewind like your logan. Uh and uh

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it's a minute ago now, so we can be interesting again.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
We were talking about Sidney Sweeney's bathwater.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yes, see, told you it was interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yes, it was told you.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I was also saying something about maybe Jim selling his
footwater if he got his like feet down at a
nail salon.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Fact. Yes, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hey, there's a market for everything, that's the crazy part
about this world.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, I well, actually we're thinking about selling honey.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Honey would work?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, honey, Yeah, me too, Yeah, I would too.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Good to see you, buddy, Good to see you too.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Thanks for thanks for coming out and getting out of
the house. Oh it's cutting into your drinking, but I
appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
To any chance to get out of the house. I
got a little seven year old at home with more
ADHD than me, and.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Oh you have a seven year old.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Seven year old little boy. Yeah, And people would always
say to me, man, you've got a lot of energy
and I just need it. Well, especially at cons I
was I was just blowed off. And then once I
had my own kid, and he had more energy than me.
I realized how draining it is to have someone with
so much energy sucking out of your energy through their energy,

(02:43):
you know.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
And he's a great little guy.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I love him.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, but he's full of energy.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, And all of a sudden, you sympathize with your parents.
Oh god, I really was a terrible kid, wasn't I
was awful? Oh God?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
They just didn't midigate you back then, or they didn't
have these things called adhd where now you know what
you know. I was just always a show off, too loud,
and I couldn't sit still.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, they gave me feeta barbaritol, that's what it was.
We gotta get somebody give this kid a phoena barb
uh and that I think it was supposed to calm
you down, because, believe it or not, I was a
really hyper annoying kid. Hard to believe, hard to believe. No,
it's true though, Yeah I was terrible. I mean, could

(03:28):
you imagine. I thought I was tased back then too,
But I was, you know, five and six, and I
running around doing all these weird voices. I you know,
I started doing all that stuff way before I was
paid back. When I was just annoying. Now I'm annoying
and paid, So it worked out. But boy, I could

(03:53):
have gone a whole nother way, so.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
You'd be annoying long enough you eventually get paid for it.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, yes, but I found that I have to be
professionally annoying.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
So I mean, but the voices that you can create
are amazing, I mean, the different, well, just the same.
I feel like I just have this one annoying, high pitched,
squeaky voice, you know, and I roll with it, with it,
with everything I can. Well, you have so many different
layers and levels, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well you know, stuff you used to get me kicked
out of class? All that's?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah? Was that?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Was that you too? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So I had I had a science teacher. She was
very good looking, and I used to flirt with all
the time, which I didn't know wasn't appropriate at the time.
And I'd walk and smile at her and she'd get
out of my class. And that's all I did, was
literally walk in the door and give her a smile,
one of those cheeky smiles and.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
What kind of yeah, what kind of smile was it?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Like?

Speaker 4 (04:45):
You're looking good today?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Miss you?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Know, Okay, there was no like lascivious slobbering or anything.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Okay, yeah, she thought that was natural, Like I just
do I do that on a constant anymore?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
And then yeah, get out. I had another teacher, he
was my drama teacher, and he's like, what can I
teach this kid? Like there's nothing else I can teach him?
Like what are you even doing here? And I'm like, well,
basically I'm getting an extra credit, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, and I figured that this is an easy one.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
This is an easy one. All the rest were hard.
I failed English. How do you fail English?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I don't know. I'm probably I'm pretty sure I did it.
You failed too, maybe, well, anything with numbers. I was
good with numbers, yeah, I see, not me. Yeah, numbers
were my downfall.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Science and well, when I was allowed to be in
the science class, I loved it. But then when you
were allowed, well.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
When she didn't kick me out as well as I
walked through that doll.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Okay, So why did you do something weird with the frogs?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
No?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I was always good with my hands, so every time
I would touch things with my hands, I would remember
exactly what I did. But I grew up in the
day where you didn't have these iPads and stuff, so
there was a teacher literally riding everything out.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
And then so she'd finished.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I remember that there was no space, so she just
erased it. So if you weren't able to keep it
with that, you were gone. Yeah, And I was the
kid who got halfway through and then she was racing
and I'm like, wow, it goes that part.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't gonna you know, I wasn't gonna
do so true.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I forgot about that phenomenon, y'ah, so right, you have
to ring fast or also was gone, wait, I completely
forgot about that.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
And you know you're doing this.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, whether we will have bad necks, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
These kids have it so easy, Jim.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
What was the punishment back when in your school days?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Like, I'm serious back in mind day, No, because I'm.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Gonna tell a story about what they did for it.
And I think we're similar age.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
I'm thirty four, I'm thirty eight in a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, yeah, so I would have been like a freshman
when you're a senior somewhere around there. There you go,
But I'm going to tell a story after But I
want to hear what they did, like detention, What did
that consist of?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Like what was the detention? Was sitting after school for
forty five minutes? And I used it to do my
homework and I also used it to have of like
Marilyn Perry, Julie Bolchok and Tuty Tarantino do my homework
and because you know it was smart. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

(07:12):
well you know, so that.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Wasn't even that bad.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
No, it wasn't that bad.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
This is what maybe it's a Christian school thing. This
is what we had to do if you got attention
like school, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
True runs you know, don't get you We.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Had to there was there was two forms of punishment.
There was one that was called dots, and it was
a sheet of grid paper, you know, like grid paper
has all the little boxes, and you had to take
a pencil and you had to draw a dot in
the middle of each one of the grid and it
would take like an hour and you just and the
teacher would check and if you touched any of the lines,
then you had to do it again. If you got

(07:48):
Saturday detention, which is like I think, if you got
like three three detentions, in a week or something, or
three in a month, I forget what it was. You
would go in the morning, Saturday morning, at seven o'clock,
some ungodly hour, and you were with the weight coach,
mister Jacobson. Oh, and he would take you out to
the bleachers in the stadium and you have to walk

(08:11):
up and down the stairs for an hour in the
morning and Saturday, and it was so boring, and you
couldn't talk to anybody, and like you'd kind of look
at your friend, you know, and give him like a
look while you're walking past each other on the stairs,
and just for an hour, and mister Jacobson would go
and he would run them and he'd use it as
his training and be like, oh, yeah, like I'm running them.
You guys are in high school, Like you can't walk

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them for an hour. And then if it was rainy
so the bleachers were slippery, so that was too dangerous,
couldn't do that. He would go to the weight room
and he would make you grab a weight, like a
forty five pound like disc weight, and you'd go to
the baseball field and he'd be like, you can carry
it however you want, but that cannot touch the ground
for this whole hour, and you would just have to

(08:53):
walk around and like, I remember I was smart at
him once and I had this sweater and there's there's
a hole right on wait, and I tied my sweater
through it, and I was like, oh, yeah, now it's
just hanging off my like sweater, you know, around my
own waist. Yeah, and he was like I can't even
argue that. I can't even argue, And I was like,

(09:13):
I got him, but it still sucked.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, he was all of a sudden, your sleeves were
like this long.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, his mom's like getting so long, kid's growing like
a weed.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
But I mean, this is a whole other level that's painful.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
So I had a different type of high school experience. Yes,
So because I was filming Star Wars at thirteen, I
used so much school that when I went back to
school I was so far behind.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
And then how much How long is that filming process?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
We filmed three to four months on and off.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
So I would go to Australia from New Zealand for
a week, I'd come back home for like a week
or two. Then that send me back out for another
week because they're filming different scenes in between.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, so when you folks had to go with you.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
One of my mom because I grew up without a father,
so my mom was in my life. And then my
grandmother was more like my mother. She was an angel.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
So she would come out and come to sit with me.
Oh that's nice, which was some of my fondest memories.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Oh, I bet you know. She was just this easy
going old English lady who just had, you know, the
heart of an angel.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
And she just overly loved me.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So I could get away with things that I couldn't
get away with on set while my mom was there,
and so then I would just be able to just
be Daniel again.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
You know Nana, bless her soul, she had.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Diab She would fall asleep during like you know, filming
and stuff. And then I knew at that point, oh
it's free range, you know, like I can be a
little crazy Daniel and there's no consequences. But so most
people don't realize. But I moved to the United States
by myself at fifteen years old.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Wow alone even well, I.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Was adopted by my manager, which was sweet enough.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I asked him basically to save me and rescue me,
and could he bring me to the United States and
adopt me. Yeah, he said to me, you know, I'd
be proud for you to be for you to be
my son, and me to call you my child. As
a kid who had no father growing up, that was
the best thing that I could have.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
That's great to hear man, that's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
So he brought me across.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Thanks for telling us that.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, this is something I really haven't never told anybody.
But I love him, you know. But he was in
his mid to late thirties and I was like fifteen,
so we were more like little brother, big brother, you know.
And I had all this free range to just be
a wild child.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I was gonna say that free range is code for something.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yes, Wow, what city did you move to?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
We moved to Orange County, Testing and I fell in
love with it. I love Yeah, yeah, I love it
down there. It's just too traffic is perfect. I mean,
as soon as I drove up in Ta La, you
just hit the parking lot, I'm like, ah.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
This is La.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
But so he took me to the local high school,
and I thought there's gonna be a great opportunity to
meet people and meet friends. And they pulled my credits
from my school in New Zealand and realized this kid
really never was in school, so I had no credits really,
and I was already like fifteen, almost sixteen, so what's

(12:21):
that like two three years of high school already. But
they were like, in order for you to go to school,
you have to go across the road to a continuation
school and build up your credits from there. It depends
on how fast you are learning. Most likely you'll be
able to graduate out of this high school. You know,
you'll have like a well they said to me, because

(12:41):
I kind of guessed already that I wasn't that smart,
I might have been able to graduate with having like
a month or two left at the school. Throughout the
whole high school experience. So I remember my pops, he's.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Very educated and smart man.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
And I remember looking at the I think it's the
guidance count, someone you talk to when you go to school.
He's like, yeah, you want my son to The first
people he meets in this neighborhood in this area is
the miscreants, and he's like, come on, get up, we're homeschooling.
And so from then I just did the homeschooling process,
which I respect it, but you have to have discipline.

(13:21):
And so I just went on the road and I
started doing comic cons. And I was like, you know what,
I'm just going to do comic cons. I'll figure out
life as it goes.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
And how old are you at this point?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I was fifteen?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, And so I just I just went out on
the road and I just started doing comic cons and
you know, meeting people and learning experiences through through meeting
and going out there on stages and stuff and making money.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
And that's cool.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
So my high school experience.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Really was just comic cons and wow. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
And that was back in like the early days of them.
That was more like thousands. Yeah. I mean what I
can think of was pretty much like Star Trek, Star
Wars and like San Diego Comic Con back then, you know,
like the Dragon Car Dragon Con is probably around back then. Yeah,
you got it.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, they weren't as big as they are today. I mean,
it's incredible how big they're growing.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh boy, Yeah, yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Try to tell my son, you know, hey, stay in school,
get an education, but it's very hard, you know, and
once he gets to the age when he realizes his
dad didn't have educated I wasn't educated, so you don't
have to tell him, I know, but I try to
be as honest as I can with him.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, well you can't be that honest.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Separated dad and they don't want to be his friend,
you know.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, Oh that's funny.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well so you must have had the performance bug from
a very young age then, well.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
No, it's weird because I grew up playing rugby and
I was a really good rugby player.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, like amazing.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I was on my way to becoming a rugby player
playing for my national team in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah at a young age.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
My brothers beat me my whole life, you know, and
they were very hard with when it came to sports.
It's kind of one of those countries that at the
time all the only success you really had was hoping
to make it into some one of the rugby teams
in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes, the highlight of most people's like you know, dreams.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
And either education or sports.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, but then education, you know, there was when I
grew up, there was only like four million people in
New Zealand, so there wasn't that many jobs most Yeah,
the population was so low that they started opening up
what they called opening the gates to the Pacific and
allowing a lot of the Pacific islanders to move to
New to the multi people are native New Zealanders. But

(15:43):
then we had Samoan Tonguan's Fijians, so from the smaller Pacific,
because we needed to boost op population so that we
could exist as a as a country. So then, yeah,
an audition came to my rugby club. My coach, he
really loved me. He was an ex all bl He
put me and his son's name down. I went along
for the audition. It was a milk commercial. Oh yeah

(16:06):
and yeah, and I'll never forget it because I was
meant to be playing a guy called Michael Jones. But
he's obviously a lot more darker than me, and he
looks a lot more Samoan, and I must have just
won the casting directors over and they were like, hey,
you know what, we really like you, but you're a
little too white to play the character. And yeah, I
can imagine, right, yeah, but all the voices they're like,

(16:27):
you know, I don't think there is little So they
gave me a role anyway, And then a lady fell
in love with me and she started getting me a
lot more ads, like an airline add.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
And it just snowbolled from.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
There and she and these are on camera.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
All on camera, ail on camera. And then and my
mom had six kids she was raising on welfare, so
I mean she was like, well he gets paid full
of this. Yeah great, yeah, get him and anything.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah yeah exactly, get busy.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Get busy. Yeah you're so uh. Then she got me
an agent, and then my agent she fell in love
with me again and sent me out for every single
audition she could. And then Wow, Star Wars came by
and she put only two uh names were allowed to
go in from each agent agency, and she put my.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Name in and oh wow.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
She told me I was not going to get this role.
Oh yeah, because I was landing everything. She's like, now,
you're not going to get this one. I was like,
oh okay, And I ended up finding out I auditioned
out of like I want to say, it was between
two and three thousand children.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Worldwide, dang for Attack of the Clone four Attack of
the Clones. Wow, that that big of a net. Huh.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Well, they went all over the world, you know, looking
for the one kid, that one kid Boba fet and Mmm,
who knew that I was hiding in a hobbit hole
down in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
How about that? Yeah, that's awesome. That's a hell of
a story.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's it's it's crazy to think and people always ask, so,
what makes you think you got why do you think
you got the.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Rolling to be honest and stuff it?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I think is that because I grew up in the
era where there was no Star Wars between six and one,
I had no clue what Star Wars was. I mean,
I grew up in the country where we had three
TV channels on our TV that was the most that
anyone had in the household, and Star Wars wasn't being
replayed every week. Yeah, so I had no one.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
It was like that in Youngstown when I was coming up,
but only because of my age. There were like CBS,
NBC and ABC. That was it.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Ohio, uh huh.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean, but that was in the late well sixties,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
So growing up in the early two thousands was like
growing up in the sixties. We were so the world
in New Zealand like literal.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, wow, there you go.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, that's funny, that's how it all happened.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Wow, we have a similar background. Did you work in
the steelma? Just kidding No, But I would have.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
I mean I would have. I pushed the loan mode
for my grandfather. This is the one.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
This is how I learned how to do how to
be a good businessman. Hire your grandchild out, pay him
very cheap, cheap labor. I used to push a little
more up and down hills. I think he paid me
like four dollars, and I used to be so excited
for that four dollars. Every week I would run to
his house. I would mow his lorn and bare feet

(19:14):
because I didn't I only had one pair of shoes
and I didn't want to get those things dirty.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, I didn't want to get him green.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know, dangerous set is like, I mean, that's pretty darkly.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
I was thinking, it's like rule number one.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, yes, yeah, wear steel toad shoes for crying outline.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
And he didn't care as long as the job got done.
And so he would have three he had three acres
and three acres of hills and he would be okay.
He would come out after I'd put the lowmower away, right,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
At least tell me at least it was gas powered.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Well, it was gas powered.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
But you're gotta remember, by the time that grass like grew,
you're lifting lowmer up and you're like bra and then
you're putting it back down.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
And yeah, I remember those days.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
But he would come out and he would look across
at all the grass. Anybody, mate, you'll get the lowmower
back out. You missed the spot. I mean, we're talking
a line of blade of grass and I have to
go pull a little more and go and go mover again.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'd have been looking for the scissors. Maybe.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Oh I wasn't that smart. I went back over two acres,
grabbed the lomo, brought it back to Achs and.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, damn. So you earned your stripes.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
I earned my stripes.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah. I would have rather been in a steel mill.
Yeah at.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
No, you wouldn't have Yeah, no, no, trust me on
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Speaker 2 (20:56):
It's funny that, uh, there's so many different things that
can help to shape you to who you are today.
You know, when you look backward, you realize, like, you know,
at times it was it was hard, but it kind of.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Moved you forward to where you are today.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, and a lot of times, you know, you realize
that the right place, wrong time, wrong place, right time,
you know, fill in the blank, you know, there but
for the grace of God.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I believe in that saying this too shall pass
no matter what you're going to good, bad, ugly.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
You know, it's easy.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Even if it's good.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Well, so you're a kid, you're doing commercial commercial, commercial,
Along comes Attack of the Clones, boom, get that. After that,
do you do you start like, okay, this is like
a career. Now, do you start taking classes? Do you
start studying acting or just kind of a student of
life and let your life experience dictate your performances.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I think up until that point I was using my
life experiences to be able to, you know, pool to
create because people, you know, would ask like, ohso you know,
how do you come up with these characters and is
it just you and every character? And you know, I
like to pull from other characters in order to produce
a new person through me, and a lot of people

(22:19):
live very turmoil lives in order to be able to
create those characters.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
And it was pretty hard for me in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
You know, I grew up in a household, three bedroom
home and six kids, you know, single mother, so we
didn't have much, you know, and we had to create within.
And my mom was the type of mom where she
was like as soon as eight o'clock came around, she
was like, get out of the house, you know, and
go entertain yourself. And we didn't come home until the
sunlight came down. So we were building these BiVO wax

(22:47):
and you know, creating and playing in the dirt, you know,
and here that was the life that we grew up with.
You know, you don't really see kids playing outside anymore.
And then I was able to use those in order
to be able to you know, rate these different characters.
Where when I got to the United States, I had
all this opportunity for all of these great you know,

(23:08):
acting teachers and voiceover teachers and stuff like the accent coaches,
which you know I took full advantage of. I'd come
up here twice twice, three times a week to do
my acting class. I was learning the.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Stella adler Oh yeah yeahd of acting.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah wow yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
And where was that? And just like.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah and my teacher, he was brutal.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
He was the most amazing guy I could ever have
asked for, Like some.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
People like me need someone like that.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
And if I wouldn't shut up and I was talking
to the people next to me, he would literally tell
me go outside, run off the block, run back down,
get in here, then you'll be ready for your scenes.
So I'd literally be huffing and puffing coming back and
then just going straight on the stage, which I realized
was good for me because I had so much more
energy than everybody else, so I needed to burn that
any off in order to be able to stander myself

(24:02):
and then create.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Mm hmmm, that's interesting, and which he was. I never
would have seen that one coming.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I just thought he was punishing me. And I didn't
like running very much.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
So yeah, who.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Likes to run?

Speaker 1 (24:14):
You know who likes to run?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
I was always a very similar way like I I've
always been like a very physical actor. And I remember
I was in this one class in college and like you,
you know, amazing teacher, but very hard I always liked
the very hard ass acting teachers, like acting coaches, because
like that's how I respawned. Like you, I played football
growing up, you know, and maybe that comes from rugby

(24:38):
and football, you know, we.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Liked the physical.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I never liked being in an acting class and like,
you know, you go up, you do your scene or whatever,
and then I hate it when they play Kate, you know,
and he's like, oh, that was amazing, and like you're
looking around at the rest of the class, like we
just watched the same thing like that that was not good.
And like if I'm not giving a good performance, I
don't want to hear that it was good, you know,
I want to make it better. Anyway, we did this

(25:03):
exercise and she was like, you have all this like
pens up energy, so you're gonna do the scene again.
And this is a theater stage course, you're gonna do
the scene again. But everybody in the class. It was
small class, like eight people come here. Okay, lay on
the floor. And she had me lay on the floor
on my back and she had everybody pinned down my
limbs like two on my legs, two on each arm,

(25:26):
and she held she jumped on me and then held
down my forehead and sat on my chest and said,
scream your scene and try and get up. Do everything
in your power to get up right now. And nobody
let him up. And so I'm there. I'm like ah,
and I'm saying my lines and I'm starting to sweat,
and I remember at the end like I'm just screaming

(25:47):
and tears are coming out of my eyes. And then
she gets up and she's like, that's how you perform
the scene. And it was like the best feeling ever.
And I was like, oh, oh man, yeah, if you're
watching this, shout out to you.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
That was awesome.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
He never got that, yeah he he uh I remember
one time.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, it was super cool. But yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Running story, yeah yeah, my my teacher.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
I just wasn't feeling it that day. And I got
up and I give it.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I gave a piss poor performance and he told me
sit your ass down, and I was like what.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
He goes, go back because we have to. He's like,
go back and sit your ass down.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
I'm done with you, and I was like, what, And
then he just sat up in front of everyone. He goes,
you know what, if I came here every day and
I just said, yep, that's great.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Made my money off you people, and I sent you
out to the world, I wouldn't be doing my self justice.
He goes, but you come up here and you give
me a piss poor performance and you expect me to
be okay with that, you know. And he's like, this
is what you're paying me for.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
And I remember just.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Looking at him being like, this is the most honest
I've heard in a long time.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
And you know, little too honest maybe you know, yeah, sure, you.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Know what it's time when I walk through those doors
to be professional and we're not getting paid and we're
actually paying someone to help hold our skills. You know
you got to come in with one hundred percent every
single time.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah that's true. Huh yep, Yeah, everything's the well. I
always had a a philosophy. I haven't even thought of
it in a long time, but whenever I whatever when
I started. When I started I was doing doing plays
and everything, and anyway, in a nutshell, every day is
the super Bowl. That's the only way I can think

(27:39):
about it. Every every single recording session is the super Bowl,
and that puts you in the right because what if
it's the only one you ever do? What if it's
the only one, What if it's the last one, what
if it's the first or the lab But every day
is the super Bowl, and that just keeps you, you know,

(28:01):
keep keeps your primed. I think.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah, it's like that expression, practice makes perfect. No perfect,
practice makes perfect, all right, Chris, practice bad habits all
day long, you know if you perfect it, Yeah, you
perfect your bad habits.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
That's what That's what I've done. That's that's what.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
That's why I haven't gone anywhere for ever a lot
of time.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
That's why that's why I get the medium bucks, those
big adequate dollars.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yes, excellent, Yeah, we laugh, but it is true in
this city especially. I mean there is a lot of
actors who don't act, you know, like who call themselves
an actor and don't go in classes and don't try
and hone their craft. You know, it's like you have
to keep exercising that muscle, Like do you forget how
to act? No? Could you always be getting better at acting? Yes? Absolutely,

(29:01):
Like you have to work it out and man, like
I've seen like a listers in class, you know, like
a listers still taking class, still working it out, Like yeah,
I'm not stopping, Like this is my performance, this is
my art, this is my craft. Very similar to how
you've talked about, you know, like exercising your voice and
taking care of your voice from things like you know,

(29:23):
do recording taz on Friday, you know, so that you
have that recording breather over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Right, was a tough one.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
So I have a friend, Christopher Lloyd.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Sure, and he came from you know, he came from
a huge oil family. Yeah. I think it was Texico oil.
His family were pretty good. That's amazing, exactly.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
So he gave that all up to come to LA
and pursue acting. And I believe his family really you know,
enthusias stick about him trying to pursue that career with
yeah they want.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
To Yeah, nobody does anybody really? Well, you know I
think I'll be an actor.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh shit, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
You know it's the same when they're like, you want
this to be an actor?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, what do you say, what do you say he
wants to attractor or an actor? No, No, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
He came out to LA and he said, you know,
I do all these classes for years because he I mean,
he didn't head it into his thirties or something like that,
and he said, you know, I was able to go
around and tell people as an actor because I was
working in acting classes. You know, So for the beginning
of ten years or whatever before he actually made it,
he was actually telling people he was an actor. And

(30:41):
all he was doing was he was acting in classes,
and so you know, in his mind he was an actor,
which he technically was because.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Well he was he was acting classes. Yeah, he was
acting like an actor.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah. And then he made it, you know, and could
you imagine taking that risk?

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I think a lot of young people, maybe not so
much more so these days, with like social media and
stuff and how you can get like celebrity off that.
But I think a lot of people confuse wanting to
be famous with wanting to be an actor. Yeah, you know,
and being an actor with like such such a big
avenue for being famous for so long, I mean, all
of my childhood.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
It's like, if you want to be famous, so you
go be an actor, you know, not even really a singer.
You know, like the level of celebrity wasn't even really
that high for singers. You know, you didn't really know
their faces as well as their music, their songs. But
I think maybe that's changed with like, you know, I
don't know, do do kids want to be like social
media stars TikTokers and stuff. You know, I think that's

(31:41):
kind of where the previous actor generation funneled into. You know,
it's like, oh, we can just do this and you
don't even I'm not gonna I'm not going to really
shit on them and say they don't have to practice
a craft, because there is a skill set that goes
into making those little short videos and stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
But it's more a skill set than a.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
It's like an almost like a knowledge set. In my
brief exposure, it's like they really know like what engages people,
and they're good at like they're good at identifying trends.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, algorithms and the technology.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Then mix in some technology, but the x amount of
it's probably it's probably the venue that's opened to the
most people with the smallest skill set or the or
acting yeah, acting acumen or however you want to put it.
You know, if you can act like you're pissed off

(32:35):
about for thirty seconds, then you'll be okay, right right,
you know, or something or that you're happy for thirty
seconds you'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Well technology has a big play in that as well,
I'm sure. Oh yeah, when I grew up, you had
a cassette that you put into your camera, you know
what I mean, and you only had one shot at it,
you know, until you went back and then you put
into another cassette player, you know, and then had to
rewind it back and you missed that up. Yeah, when
now you can feel everything on your phone, you know.
The cameras that these these they have created are just incredible.

(33:05):
You know, you can do a playback on the compute
on the camera nowadays.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, where if you didn't get it right, let's shoot
it again.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
I have to show you guys this picture because I
just I just saw this the other day. And so
you know, the new movie twenty eight years later, you know,
it's like a sequel to twenty eight days later, twenty
eight years.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I just saw that.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah, yeah, so the whole thing because they shot the
first twenty eight days later on like a handy cam
or something like. It was like a consumer camera that
they shot it on, and so they're trying to like
re capture that kind of.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Which project.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
And so this one's shot entirely on an iPhone. But
look at the rig that they have for this iPhone.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Oh Jesus, and that's the iPhone rig.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
That's that's an iPhone with like a focus polar A
one hundred thousand dollars lens.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
That's not an iPhone anymore exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
And it's like shot on an iPhone with one hundred
thousand dollars camera equipments. You know, we'll super impose it. Yeah,
we'll super compose it for you guys. How crazy is that?
Like shot on an iPhone? They should have to have
like a little asterix. Yes, yes, this isn't quite an

(34:26):
iPhone anymore.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah. Yeah, what we.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Carry aund in our pockets is just amazing. But you know,
now everything can just be instantly if you have an idea,
if you're somewhere, you know, you can instantly capture that moment,
you know. So I think technology has come so such
a long way where now you know, you can instantly
become you know, your cameraman, your own actor, you.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Know everything, producer exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, that's it's it's a weird world. Oh, it's an
odd world. You'd never have there's nothing. I mean, like
even ten fifteen years ago, you couldn't have predicted everything
that's going on now. Yeah, I mean we're podcasts. How
about that? How long have those been around?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Not long?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Not?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, thinking about it, I can't even think it's not
long though, I mean.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Right, like twenty years yellow?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
How long have they've really been my.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Popular Like yeah, the recent like surgeon popularity I would
say started in like with a lot of like the
YouTube podcast like this style, you know. I think that's
kind of like the shift that we're talking about. I
would say it's probably like the late twenty tens, like
probably twenty seventeen twenty eighteen is kind of when they
started to like, you know, it's kind of like the
Joe Rogan era started. Everybody started talking about you know,

(35:47):
oh podcasts and yeah, and then covid just kicked it
through the roof. You know, oh, now every single you know,
now we have a podcast about you know, Porky the
pig who wears a pine cone hat like I don't
even know.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Anything, and everything podcast about podcasts.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
There's many of those. Yeah there's one now poception.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah we're pod people. And if you get that reference,
you're old too.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well it's it's an awesome it's it's an awesome opportunity
to hear different stories that you really wouldn't hear, you know,
on the mainstream you know, televisional media, you know, and
they're just so natural that sometimes people just want. I
think we grew up in that generation of is dropping
right where you'd always want to listen to your mom

(36:39):
and friends that's at the table, you know, talking around
about things in the neighborhood or you know, just natural conversations.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
And I feel like we still have that.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's a little.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yes where you just get to sit and listen in
and hear the stories that you know. I think it's
come from generations where oh, yeah, you know, we did
it all our lives, just didn't get.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I think it's like in our like human DNA, you know,
like even like you know, you go way back to
like Euripides and like these old philosophers who literally just
sat around all day and like tried to figure out
life just with like ten hour lectures, you know, just yeah, Socrates,
all of them, and they would just you know, sit

(37:22):
around and like what is life? You know, like what
is the capital T truth? You know, and then just
like argue back and forth and try and pokeholes and
logic and philosophies, and you know, it's something about us
where it's like conversation kind of lets us figure out
our world a little bit.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
You know, Oh yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
We hear stories and you know, oh yeah that applies
to this in my life or this I went through
something similar or the complete opposite, like oh my god,
like I can't believe people had to live that way,
or you know, the wow, what a unique experience. You know.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I remember when you would hear a story and then
you would go and tell someone else's story and you
would change in it a little bit, and then they
would yeah it was changed. So then by the time
that it got like the fifth, six tenth person, it
was a completely different story than what yeh at the table, right.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah. We used to go there was a name for that.
We used to play it in school and you would
take a phrase and say, well, I went to the
corner store the other day and bought myself an apple,
and by the time it got around to the other side,
my apple sauce was frozen in my grand and my

(38:36):
grandmother's Chihuahua.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, that was the game.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Telephone, Yeah, telephone, that tehon that was.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I remember getting frustrated when there would be like little
shit disturbers in the line and they purposefully changed things,
and it's like, no, it's an experiment to see how
hard can try and keep the same.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, you're supposed to keep it.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
And then there'd be people that like purposely like oh
yeah you know, like.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, yeah, I hate those.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, this is something that your generation probably doesn't have
nowadays either, you know what I mean, like.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Play telephone, I hope so, yeah, me too. We had
so many great games as kids. Remember that we would
play this one game on a four square and four
people stood on the corners and then one person stood
in the middle and they had to switch. They had
to switch corners before you could run to the other corner. Yes,
oh manwitch switch, Yeah, I think it is called switch switch.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Or twitch switch.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Twitch is video games.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, video game. Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
You grew up in the generation where you had the
know the squares and then you throw like a little
rock and you had to jump over it and then.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Hopscotch, hopscotch, hopscotch.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yes, yes, I do remember hopscotch.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Hop scotch and jump rope. Yeah technology when you were young.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Well, they had just invented rope. I had a rope.
Everybody had to have a rope. Have you seen this shit?
Look rope? Look at that?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Look at that And if you put it between two
hands and swing it around, someone could jump between it.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, yeah, we had this thing.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
We had just invented rocks the year before. Yeah, and
then you could flat rock them across a creakers. How
did this happen?

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Do you remember the game of red Ass? Red Ass?

Speaker 2 (40:34):
No?

Speaker 3 (40:35):
It was like wall ball and if you dropped. If
you drop the ball, then you have to start running
and try and touch the wall. And if somebody else
picked up the ball and threw it out the wall
and it touched the wall before you did, then you'd
have to go up and pay a penalty, and you'd
put your hands on the wall and they would pelt
a ball at your ass as hard as they could.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Oh great, they don't do that kind of stuffy I grew.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
I know they don't do it anymore. I know that
for sure.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, do you remember the thing that used to have
allowed to have actual fun.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
No, no, no, no, and no one could get hurt.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I grew where we had this thing that we'd put
around our ankle and then you'd kind of skip and
there was the biggest thing that was attached to it
and it would kind of go around.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
And you'd have to spin it.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, well the hell was and it lit up.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yes, the good.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Ones lit up and rang had a bell in it
or something exactly. It's called You're gonna fall eventually.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Oh you're just sitting there. I mean, yeah, it was
the greatest thing I've bought them. They just stand there
all day, jumping and swinging, jumping and swinging alone. Yeah,
oh my god, what did we do with our iPhones
and tablets and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I mean, we used to have slingshot fights. Does anybody
even know out there what a slingshot is? Yes, we met.
I had a neighborhood full of cousins, and I was
toward the younger side, so I was getting my ass
kicked a pretty a regular basis. And but swing sling
shots with a great equalizer. Oh you can, Yeah, you

(42:09):
could put out their eye just as easily as they
could put out yours.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
And no one wore glasses or helmets or anything.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
You know, there was no way make sure you put
eyewear on before you start slingshotting each other.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Way, Yeah, you just ran home.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Like, oh my bleeding.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
You know, yeah, get back outside.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
We used to freeze paintballs. We used to freeze paintballs real, yeah, yeah,
we used to sling shot paintballs and then we used
to freeze them, freeze them and take them to the
paintball park. And that was that. Those were break skin.
You're you're getting.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're getting your You were being hit
with a rock.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
You were bleeding for sure.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
So were you making them out of sticks?

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Like would you go to a tree and find like
a purple would?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, I've done yeah, And then and I remember and
I think it was God, this can't be right. I
can't be that. I feel like they were in like
not seven elevens, because I don't think we had them.
But whatever the equivalent might have been, you could buy
a sling shot right next to the right there, I mean,

(43:12):
just like it was a pack of gum. And nowadays,
I mean, nowadays, the idea of kids getting sling shot.
It's insane. It's just like, call my lawyer, now, get
it over with now, because someone's getting sued. Well.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I was about to see my own son seven.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
So he told you someone was getting sued. Well.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
So I'm in Japan. I get this call. My wife's
crying and she can barely talk, and I'm like, what's
going on? And She's like, your son shot me in
the eye. And I'm like, what are you talking about?
And we every Christmas we buy NERF guns and we
have NERF gun fights with everyone who costs for Christmas.
So the whole house ends up with all these NERTH

(43:53):
bullets all over the ground, but not much blood. No
blood up until this point. Last year, I got the
ones with a hard rubber tip. And my wife, she
used to have negative sixteen eyesights, so we invested in
her eyes and we got to these brand new laser
chips that they put over the iris or they take
out the iris and they put these chips in which
make her twenty twenty. Yeah what, It's incredible, incredible. So

(44:18):
he he and her are sitting on the couch and
for some weird reason, he shoots it as mother but
he hits her perfectly dead square in the eye and
it shifts the lens, but the lens like blows up.
So she sends me a picture it looks like he's
blowing out her iris. I'm like, oh my goodness, like
I'm gonna have a half blind wife, you know what
I mean. Like I'm in Japan. I'm like, I gotta

(44:39):
get on a flight back, so we fly by. I
fly back, and she had to go in for an
emergency surgery on her eye where they had to remove
the old whole lens right and then put a new
lens in. Yeah, and so and that was a pretty
penny you know.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, there goes your college find pretty much.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
I'm like, you know, kid, like you're gonna have to
stop working harder around the house because you know, that's
how I paid for my things. Yeahs not mowing the.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yes. Lo and Mo were going son, oh.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But yeah, I mean just simple things like that, you know.
And they weren't even as dangerous as a sling shirt,
I thought, you know. And so no, now we had
to put the NERF guns up in.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
The attic and oh man, that ain't right.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
We just seen Christmas count.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
We're reduced to normal fun no more. It was so weaponry.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Christmas was so fun.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I mean, you know, we'd have like twenty people and
we've all got these NERF guns. I got this one
that was like a it had like a spinning thing
and it shoot like one hundred nerves bullets and well
then seconds you know, it's like it was like a
golden gun, you know. Like so I was just hide
behind the couch and light everybody up. It was you know,
it was a good way to spend Christmas, you know,

(45:54):
war at the logans. Yeah yeah, yeah, one had to
run it off for it for everyone.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Uh well, it only takes one feels, that's it. Yeah.

(46:21):
and mare. You'll feel the difference, So go ahead and
join the tuned In family today at Patreon dot com
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Speaker 3 (46:32):
So what keeps you busy these days? Working on any
new projects?

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Being a dad?

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Yeah, actually, so when I got into Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
George Lucas actually had started sending me these huge boxes
down in New Zealand full of toys, brand new toys,
and so I would open these boxes up. I mean
they were giant. The shipping on these things to send
a New Zealand was like six seven hundred dollars just
to ship these toys to me. It probably wasn't even
six seven hundred with a value in these things. I
started open up these boxes and as soon as I

(47:04):
opened up the box, I still get it to today,
like I just smelt America, but not realizing it was
probably like China, you know, brand new plastic, you know,
brand new plastic toys, you know, and I still relate
it to it today when I get these, you know,
boxes of toys. And so then I started collecting. I
started collecting Star Wars toys exclusively, and so I would

(47:26):
do comic cons and I would go around to the
boots and I would negotiate with some of the like
you know, the booth owners to buy out their collections
off them, and then I would ship them back to
my house or my storage units or wherever I was
storing my stuff at the time. And I did this
all over the world. Like I had a house in
England that I had bought and then I was like, well,

(47:47):
instead of renting it out, I could use it as a
storage unit for my toys that I buy it in
Europe because they're actually different brands.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Of toys to fill up a house I have.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I mean, wow, when I last counted, which was a
long time ago, I had over one hundred thousand Star
Wars toys and collectibles.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
One hundred thousand thousand. I didn't think there was one.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Hundred What is there like footage as like, can we
see this somewhere?

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Yeah, I got some videos and stuff.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
I never online or anything or private.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I have a group on Facebook called Bounty Bounty Boxes
and my wife was like, I sold one of my
houses in England, the one I had stored all the toys,
and she's like, I brought over a forty foot container
full of toys, but I had to literally shut shove.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
The door closed like a ship container, the.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Biggest shipping container you can get forty feet and I
had to literally push the door and lock it at
the same time because it was that jam packed full
the ceiling. And so I brought it over and my wife.
Her face dropped and she's like, this is ridiculous. This
is a joke, Like we are not buying any more
storage units or any more office spaces.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Like yeah, well I've got like she might have a point.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, I just he goes, yeah, I'm not that addictive personality,
you know, and I just not addicted to everything Star Wars.
So uh, she's like, yeah, we're not renting out anymore
storage units. I've got about three storage units and a
and a pretty large warehouse office just jam packed full

(49:19):
of toys and and so she's like, well, you're gonna
have to like do something about this because we're not
renting any more spaces. So I was like it was
just before the pandemic hit, and I was like, well.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Let me well, let me see, let me see.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
What I can do.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
And so I put a couple of things on Instagram
and I got dams on them within seconds, and I
would I had about I think ten or fifteen of
the same figure, and people hit me up and they
were like we want it now. So I was like okay,
So then I put another a couple of things up
and then they went in seconds. So then someone told

(49:53):
me about Facebook and you could have these groups that
you can you know, if you can run and stuff.
And so that's how bounty boxes came to life. And
then I just I would make mystery boxes that I
would just put oh you know, I'd put way more
than the value of what the box, what was the
price of the box, and I send them out to people.
But then I would draw like a boba fit helmet

(50:14):
on the box. And then it just took off and yeah,
made it a little bit more personal. And then it
took off and we're about eleven and a half thousand
people in about four four or five years and they
just buy my collection daily.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
So I went from I can't believe you still have
anything left.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Oh, I've got hundreds.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
There's still units, units and offices, sjam packed my garages
all four where that's where I ship and did my
shipping and handling out of. I have my home office,
which you know is the office I go and sit in. Wow,
I probably I can't even tell you the value of
stuff that I have in there, because I've got everything
from vintage to modern and Lego. So Lego was probably

(50:59):
one of my best and Esmonds. I started buying Lego
in early two thousands only Star Wars and I.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Never know there's a lot.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I didn't realize that the stock on if Lego Star
Wars Toys was a stock, it was raising about fifteen
percent every year, ten to fifteen percent.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
It's wonderful in value.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah. So I had stuff from early two thousands, like
two thousand to two thousand. Oh my god, you know
something boat.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
So you spend twenty bucks now and now you've got
like one hundred and fifty or two hundred five hundred. Wowe,
no kidding, that's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah. So whenever people say what should I do for it?
I was like, by Star Wars, Lego, don't open them,
sit on them, use that as an investment.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
So I I do that nowadays. I'm also very involved
with my son's life.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I volunteered a school a couple of times a week.
Pee in class.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I like to that's great.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Pick up and drop offs like that's I I try
to do the comic cons on I leave on a
Friday and I'm back home on a sun because I
want to go back to being a dad. You know,
although we're doing pretty well and the conventions, you know,
do well as well. I still want to be a
father and I don't want to miss out on these
times and these you know, they don't come back, they
don't come back. So that's been keeping me pretty busy.

(52:22):
I did. I did a couple of things recently with
Star Wars, so they invited me back to do the
Lego Star Wars game, which I was able to voice
the original Boba Fett and Tim, the guy played my father,
Tim go to Marson.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
He's become like an uncle to me. He's nicest guy
out there.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
He was on the podcast he was He's.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Such a lovely guy.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I mean, you know. And that was one of the
other blessings being in Star Wars was being able to
get people like him in my life who have helped
to raise me as well. And when they asked him
to come back and play both in the Book of
fit Uh, I wish I would have had a chance
to be able to talk to him, cause I found
out from someone on set and they called me like, Daniel,

(53:07):
you know, we could get fired for this, but you know,
we know how much you've given to Boba Fett and
how much you've given to the Star Wars community. We
just thought, you know, you should know that they're doing
a Boba fet series and I'm guessing you're not gonna
be in it.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
And I was like what. And I was like, well,
is Tim with of Marson gonna be in it?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
And they're like, no, I don't think it's him either,
And because he'd gained a little bit of a way
and he'd shaved his head, he'd looked different than when
he did when he was an episode two, right, And
so I caught up lucasfilm and I'm like, you know how,
you know, you know, you know how the fan base
can be.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
This fan base is very passionate.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
You haven't even given me a chance to try to
figure out something I can say when they come back
and they start, you know, with all the bullying and
the and you know, being like, yeah, Daniel Logan sucked anyway,
we're glad he wasn't in it or whatever.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
It would be nice to.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Have that little bit of a opportunity to to foresight
to be able to create my own, you know, lines
that I can come back with. So then when they
asked me to come back to play the original Boba
Fette in the Lego game, when Jeremy Bullock, who was
a saint. When he did it and they voiced the
guy voiced his his lines I realized were like more

(54:18):
like a throwaway, like when he advertised himself, he was like,
I'm Boba Fett. And when Tim with a Morrison did it,
it was more fit. You know what I mean? I
hear it, and so it changed the whole Just that
one part of Boba Fette is very important because how
he advertises himself is more like you know who I am?

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Instead, yes, do you know who I am?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Right?

Speaker 4 (54:43):
You know, It's not a question, it's a statement, like you.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Know absolutely my whole life.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I had watched the three seconds of the originals you
know what I mean or whatever it was just joking,
and then listened to the voice over and over over,
so that when I was called to come back, I
knew exactly how to deliver those lines, and I knew
exactly how he sounded in the delivery of him, because
technically I was going to grow into him. But then

(55:13):
when they brought Tim back, I then had to merge
both voices as one because I delivered the lines like
the original buffet, but I had the accent of Tim,
so I was like, Boba Fett, you know, he's got
a little bit more. I always make jokes and I
loved him to death and he's like, damn, but my boy,
you know, he shakes his head on me quite often.

(55:35):
But I'm like, we were kind of like Yogi Beer
and Boo boo. You know, did you go and close
the door yet?

Speaker 4 (55:42):
And I'm like, oh, yes, did I did?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
You know what I mean like we were kind of
like this Yogi bear and yeah, hey, Boo boo, go
close the door to Jed. I was trying to look
at my jet pic.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
You know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
So I merged both of them together, and then I
was blessed to be asked to come back and be
in the Bad Batch, which so many of the fans
had been waiting for the Bad Batch return or Boba
Fett to come into the Bad Batch because we had
found out that Boba Fett had a sister, which her

(56:17):
name was Omega, which played perfect because now you have
Alpha and Omega, and obviously the fans so desperately wanted
to see Omega meet her brother, Boba Fett. And what
would he have done, would have protected her? Would he
have tried to, you know, put a bounty on her, right, right,
what would have.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
What kind of dynamic would that be? A reunion? Family reunion? Right?

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Well, you know when you see in the Clone Wars
where he has all these clones that look like his
father and he goes, you're not my brother, you know
what I mean? Like, who would have known what the
dynamic between a little sister or a sister would have been,
you know, instead of all these clones that he just
regularly got to see on a daily basis that all
reminded him of his father. And then I was like, great, Like,

(57:03):
we're going to introduce Boba Fett through a different character
called Max, and then all of a sudden, Max is
gonna then all of a sudden become Boba feed Like
oh actually that was his code name, or was like,
you know, his undercover name to them becoming this Boba
Fett again like we did kind of in the Clone Wars.
And so I was like, oh, great, Like so what
what are we going to go with this? And I

(57:24):
remember them telling me like, oh no, this is the
third and final season.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
This is all that's going to be.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
And I'm like, oh so now all I now I
know that all I'm going to be is a damn clone,
you know what I mean, there's no chance for Boba
Fet to come into the Bad Batch. But we had it.
Actually had done quite a bit in the Clone Wars.
Most people don't realize, but we.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Had a clone. Well.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
The Clone Wars was incredible, serious. I mean, there's so
much love for that series. And I got asked eight
years later after I did Attack Clones to come back
and reprise Boba Fett in the Clone Wars. And I
remember day pel Only coming up to me and going, hey, like,
you know, we want you to be Boba Fet, but
we got these other clones, like do you think you
could do different voices? And I was so intimidated just
to be back that I was like no, And I

(58:09):
kicked myself all the time because right after we did it,
I was like, what were you thinking, Like, of course
I can do more voices, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yeah, I used to do anytime somebody asked me that
to go oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
I yes, just faked it until I made.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
It, Yeah that's yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
And so I started getting more comfortable as to see
the series went by. But then we had like a
seventh season where Boba Fett was meant to, you know,
get his armor, start doing bounties. He was meant to
the duel between him and cad Bane was he was
meant to kill Cadbane. But then it made for the
iconic dent and the helmet, which everyone always wondered where
the dent came from. And I used to make jokes.

(58:50):
And there was one scene where Tim with to Morrison
an episode two. He was walking up the Slave one
and he goes to duck, but he doesn't duck further
enough up the ramp and he smashes his head into
the into the door of a slave one. And then
that's how well And I say, like his head was
so big that you know, it was stuck in the
helmet and hit it off against the door, and that's

(59:13):
what created the dent.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
But then later on the cabbane door came.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
And it was incredible because you know, I was taught
in the generation you know men don't cry and don't
cry and everything. But my eyes teared full of water
when I started reading these scripts and where they were
going to take Boba fit, because that's what all the
fans want nowadays.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
They want to pick up.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
From the prequels and they want to go right up
into it Empire. So you know, there's so much story
there that hasn't been explored. I mean, the original fans
wanted the Solac Penn after, but the generation of the
prequel stands. They want to see where Boba Fett is
after the prequels and where it ends up and Empire
strikes back. And we started taking them there in the

(59:54):
Clone Wars we started. We got him in whole armor.
He blew up his dad's helmet, so that's not the
same helmet that jangle Fit would hit his head on
in the Slave one of the original So where did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
He get that helmet?

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
You got it, you know, And where he found his
new armor, how he went about the painting of the armor.
Then he started doing bounties and then we just sort
celebration this last one in London that they released the
chasing scene where I'm fully kidded in Boba fet armor
and we're flying through Carson like a Carson kind of
scene and Anakin Skywalker's chasing me. It was it was

(01:00:32):
so cool, It was so cool the I think it
was like and they explored it and they went there
and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah, and that, and that's for for for what release.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
That was for the Clone Wars, it was meant to
be season seven, but then something happened where they just
didn't want to go I think with kids killing, and
you know, obviously I was like, this is sty.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Wars, this is what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I mean, you know, yeah, and a Skywalker wasn't that
old and he started slurtering a little young link, you
know what I mean at least yeah, and you know
old Jet you know, older Jedies, Oh god, yeah, stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
And yeah, well I was, Yeah, my buddy Hondo was
recruiting young lings to to do his nefarious stuff. But
he does not lead them into battle.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
No, he just makes money off.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
He just makes money of them. That's different.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
He should have been a bounty hunter in himself because
he's he was like Boba Fett. He just it was
all about the galactic credits.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Yeah, well you know he was. He was a businessman, yes,
an opportunist, opportunistic businessman.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
And I like those characters, yeah too. They get to
explore more than just the Jedi, the Sith and and
and and the dark side, like there is all these
different characters in between that make.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
It well that that's what makes it interesting. Yes, yeah,
it's that gray area. He'll either go dark side or
not so dark side, depending on where the critics where
the green side is. Yes, he's big on the green side.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Why did you come up with that voice? Because that
voice is definitely Hondo and it's so like when you
watch that character, you couldn't imagine him having any other
voice besides that perfect voice that you create. Good, well,
it's just hold on to that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Yeah, well, you know, I am I realized if you do.
I've said this one hundred times, but if you do
a bad impression, nobody knows who it is, somebody famous,
that's a new character. If you do a perfect impression
of somebody, everybody knows that, you never know you'll be
able to use it. And if you put two characters together,

(01:02:46):
like Hondo is le Brenner and Charles Bronson put together,
you know, because you'll rena. He had this sort of
I can't remember. I think it was Russian and Chinese.
His parents were Russian and Chinese, so I don't know
where he got his accent, but obviously from Russian and China.

(01:03:08):
And but you know there was that, and then you know,
Joe's bruns and he that's sort of.

Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
Monotune, and I just put him together and that is
where you get Hondo. Hondo comes out from you, Brenda
and Charles Bronson. Not a good looking kid if they
had one, but if they did have one, he would
sound like Hondo.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
So that's that's where I got. That's where he came from.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
So did you have to audition or they just call
you now and they're like, Jim, then well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
I mean that's a long long time ago, yeah, twenty years. Yeah, yeah,
at least because I remember the house I was in.
That's that's how I remember recording the first thing. And
I auditioned for cad Bane and Hondo that day, and yeah,

(01:04:04):
I think they were both just kind of writing them yep,
you know, getting used. They didn't know what they were
going to do with any of them. And Hondo was
destined to appear in two or three episode arc of
Clone Wars, and we did it, and I think it

(01:04:24):
was like out of the first eighteen or whatever shows
that he was in, like the fourth and the fifth,
And fortunately their turnaround time was rather brisk back then,
and so they got back the stuff and played it
for a few people, and people go, oh, well, we
like this guy, so they wrote him back in and
he snuck in a couple others, and then when bad

(01:04:46):
batcher rebels came around, they go, well, let's bring him
back for this and next thing, you know, he's kind
of a staple.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Now that's a great thing with Dave Filoni though, if
you really like you worked, oh yeah, you'll find a
way to bring I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Was about to say, it's it's you know, Dave Feloney's
imagination is a is a fine thing. Bless you, sir,
wherever you are.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
I say, he's like an encyclopedia of Star Wars, you know,
And I mean he literally learned from the Guard himself.
George Lucas. Yeah, he's he learned from the Old Testament
and is now writing the New Testament.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
For the Yeah, right, true, very true.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Well, you know he said too that that George told
him to if he if he wanted to get a
feel for the battle scenes for this for that he said, uh,
he recommended World War two movies and uh, just imagine
instead of a tank, let it be a you know,
one of the big big walkers, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Or yeah, you know, what's so cool. But on that
on that topic, I went to Pearl Harbor a couple
of years ago. Two years ago, I went to Pearl
Harbor and they have the museum museum there of the
what is it, the USS Missouri USS Missouri is stationed
out there, and you know, you gotta do a whole

(01:06:08):
tour go all through it. And the gun turrets, the
gun turrets that they have mounted on that ship are
literally the frickin the two legged bipedal. I forget what
they're called, but in Star Wars, yes, it's literally like
that shape. Like you look at it and like, oh,
that's where they got inspired from, Like that's Star Wars.

(01:06:29):
Like that's straight up Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Sure is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Yeah, And fun fact about that ship because I just
thought it was amazing. The cannons on that ship. They
can rotate anyway they want, but it has to be
shooting forwards because they're so powerful that if it shoots
off to the side, flip the boat. Yeah, flip the
aircraft carrier. Excuse me, it'll flip that. And they have
such a big range on those shots they can hit

(01:06:54):
anywhere in Hawaii from Pearl Harbor. They don't even have
to move the boat. They can hit anywhere in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah, Boom Goodbye.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Hasn't been shot since World War Two.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
But imagine the recoil though.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
It probably shoots you back two miles. So now we
have to drive back another two miles to get back
to where we shot at the last box.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yeah, oh god, yeah, that that's kind of an amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
But yeah, huge, it's so cool if if anybody gets
the chance to go to Pearl Harbor, to go to
the museum out there. It's a great museum. It's really
historical and you'll see some Star Wars references.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Yes, you can pick up it from quite quite quite
a few places in the in that era, you know,
and and eras older, you know, like I think Don
Vader was designed around.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
The Samurai, the Summurai kind.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Of look or the Yeah I know it's talking about
the seven Samurai, the helmet helmet with that weird yeah. Yeah, yeah,
I used to think that, and I used to think
a little Nazi in there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Oh for sure, that's huge. It's like the huge that's
what he yeah, that's what he referenced. The just just
the outfits, you know what I mean, like the Imperial,
the imperil outfits and stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure,
you know very much.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
See him even just think about like the guy that
he chokes the force choke that looks like a uniform,
you know, like straight up like boom.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I think that guy's name is Richard la Pometerios. And
then wasn't he the guy got.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
Oh I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
I don't know. I just reference that because that image,
I swear is burned in everybody's head. I think, oh, yeah,
I know that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Yeah, that's that's like when I pick up the helmet.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
It's some scenes in Star Wars which just leave an
imprint in the in Star Wars history for life.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Yeah you know, I remember seeing that in the teaser
trailer like as a kid and like just like getting chills,
like oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Did you ever feel any of the There was a
lot of like online backlash over the original, the prequels,
and like, I just never understood the hate. I was like, man,
like I thought they hated Jarjar Binks for some reason,
the internet hated jar Jar. But I feel like it's
kind of gone through a cycle now where like, like
how you mentioned there's like a great fandom for them now,

(01:09:30):
but I feel like they were kind of I don't know,
did you experience that at the time when they were released?

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I got.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
I got.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
I got bullied like no other you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Because no way, well, because you know, you're gonna remember
that these Star Wars fans had waited sixteen years for
the Star Wars to come back, and then when it
had come back, with the visuals and the colors and
the special effects, it was totally different than what they
got to grow up with. But they didn't realize that
George Lucas was moving on and he was creating something
for their kids to have as their own Star Wars,

(01:10:01):
not for them, you know, and they still found entitled
to it to where they were. You know, they looked
at me and they were like, that's not what we
imagined Boba Fett to be like, you know, that kid sucked.
His acting was terrible. And so this was when like
AOL and you know, Facebook was just getting started and
my Space, and so people would pick on me online.

(01:10:22):
And then that's why I didn't really open up an
Instagram until about nine years ago, because someone was like,
you got to get an Instagram. I'm like, nah, you know,
I'm not interested in going online and having people pick
on me and bully me and stuff. And I'd go
to conventions and you know, people would literally come up
to my face and be like, you were in the
worst Star Wars film ever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
You sucked.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Your movie sucked, like you know what I like. And
because this is when the original fan base was still
coming to conventions and they were the ones who were
keeping it alive. And so me, Jake Lloyd, Jake Kloyd
got it really bad. I mean I just saw Jake Lloyd.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
A month ago.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
He was the kid Anakin, Yeah, and he got it
really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
They literally had to move him from California to Indianapolis
or Indiana because the fan base was very very brutal
to him. Yeah, he got it, and then me and
him were brought out in early two thousands to go
and do the comic cons and we would get it bad.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
I mean, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Just put on a smile like, hey, well, thank you
for your opinion, and I appreciate your kind words, even
though they weren't kind, you know, And we would be
sitting next to the Jeremy Bullocks, the Dave Process that
are Kenny Baker's I mean, you know, the Original nine
or whatever it is, and they would have lines and
me and Jake would have like maybe two or three

(01:11:39):
people in our lines at a time, and they just
wouldn't give us a shot. And then none of the
other prequel actors really well, Ray Park would would.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Be out there and a couple more.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
There weren't very many of us, and we would go
through like these conventions and just stick in it. And
you know, now, however, many years later, the prequel fans
are now the kids who have jobs. They're in their thirties, forties,
you know what I mean, they're starting families of their own,
and they grew up with that Star Wars and George
Lucas whatever he did worked because it just carried the

(01:12:13):
next generation into Star Wars, which kept them a life.
So now our line's along. You know, the people are
coming up and telling me I'm in the greatest Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yea, you knew really well?

Speaker 7 (01:12:24):
I mean nowadays, well, it's it's because I love Star
Wars and I love the fans, and I've stuck in
it so long that you know, these parents that brought
their kids up, these kids are now adults who are
bringing their kids up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
And they're like, wow, I remember when I was five
years old and I came up. Oh, you played lightsaber
fights with me, and you know, you gave me free autograph,
a free picture. I've got a job now and I
want to pay for your autograph.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Boy? What?

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
And then they see show you pictures and then now
we're even recreating pictures like you know, I would pick
up a kid and hold them like this, and they're like, well,
I'm five, you know, I'm five fort nine. Can we
do the same picture. I'm like, you know, you're holding
up these girling people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Yeah, maybe not, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
So now it's it's it's the pretty couel era of time.
And now you have the hating Christiansen's coming coming out.
You've got the gregis starting to come out, you know,
and Uh, it's only taken twenty years, but they finally
came out because the love is now there for them
where twenty years ago, oh man, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
It was a brutal different world.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
It was brutal. I'm not gonna lie. I got through it,
you know, and I just came out. I put a
smile on my face.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
The people who came and saw me, I showed them as.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Much love as I could.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Never would have seen that one coming. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Jake Lloyd dropped off. He was like, you know, I
just kind of do it. And he was Jake Lloyd,
the young Anakin.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Oh he hasn't been at a convention in over sixteen years.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Oh ma'am.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Yeah, well he should now they would I would think.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
He went through I guess I can talk about it
now where I kind of kept it private before. But
you know, he he ended up getting schizophrenia and so
now he's been going through the mental trip. Yeah, bless him,
Like I love the guy. I mean, we went and
had his birthday together. I bought him a computer tower.

(01:14:10):
He said to me, I said, what do you need
right now? And he's like, well, well I can basically
do besides all his classes and stuff he's doing is
is play video games. And so I was like, all right,
well I'll get you a PlayStation five or somethody. He's like,
oh no, I play computer. And I'm like, but my
computer is old, it's slow, and he's had some problems
with it. So I was like, I didn't know how
much a computer was. So I was like, don't worry,

(01:14:32):
I'll get you under like I got you for you.
But he's like, really, like, can I at least give
like buy you know, give you some money for it
or whatever. And you know, I've been very blessed in
my life. And I'm like, no, don't worry, I'll take
care of the computer.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
I'll got you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
So then I went and I went to a computer
place and I asked how much a tower was. Yeah,
they're not cheap. Hello, I could have bought a small car.
I could have bought a small car for how much
is tower car?

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Jesus?

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Well, because it's it's an upsell, you go when you
buy the tow And then they're like, well, what kind
of gamers is all? I don't know. I think a
pretty good one. Okay, Well you're not gonna need any
video where you're gonna definitely you're.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
Gonna need a bigger hard drive.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
This thing doesn't come with windows. You're gonna have to
buy windows. Oh do you want a bigger fan or
you And I'm like, oh, yep, yep, yep. So I
walked out of there. It was thousands, but you know
what he deserves it. You know, it was his birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
So I h on birthday is coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
By the way, when's your birthday coming up?

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
November?

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
You a birthday and a Christmas gift?

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Just putting it out, just putting it out there, planting
a seed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
But so yeah, he dropped off, you know, and I
just stuck in it. And you know, the fans have
been good to me now, you know, like they weren't.
I said on at a convention one time, I said,
you know, when I first got bullied, because I was
bullied at school and buy my brother and stuff, I
became very strong and I started.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Boxing, and oh wow, you too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
So I just told these grown people like, all right, well,
if you want to bully me and you want to
talk down to me and pick on me, then just
meet me in the parking lot and we can talk
face to face. Taken off line because my pops who
thought to me, He's like, no, Dan, you don't do yeah,
you can do that. You can't do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
That, like you can't do that with fans.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Let him say it like you know what I mean
what we used to call him back then as Keyboard Warriors.
And and so that's when I just I just got offline.
But then I still stuck in the conventions. And you know, uh,
it's it's been good nowadays. You know, it's these are
the good days for the prequels, That's what I say,
the days of people coming up to my table and

(01:16:45):
telling me I sucked and h my character was the
worst and and my movie was the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Well, now though I wonder if I wonder if like
Daisy Ridley isn't inheriting all the hate now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
That's what I was about to say, is that now
the prequel fans and the original fans are now hating
on the sequels, right, And I'm just looking at it like, guys,
this is your kids' generation Star Wars, and it's going
to keep it alive for another twenty thirty forty years,
especially with everything else they're bringing out. YEA, So although
you are feel entitled to have your feelings towards this.
These are new characters and new avenues that they're going

(01:17:21):
with that your kids are going to have Kylo, Ren, Ray, Finn,
all these characters for sure that weren't in the original
but are now. They're going to be able to associate
their childhood to different characters that now they've had the
Star Wars. And I say to the people who do
talk down to them, I say, give them twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Years like they did with the prequels.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
It's a twenty years twenty years, you know what I mean.
Give them twenty years and you'll finally come around and
they're not cherish them, appreciate them like they did with
the prequels.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
That's right, that's true. I know, good advice.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
John Boyego was getting done dirty, done dirty. Oh man,
Holy cow. People were so they could have had such
a good character art for Finn, Are you kidding me?
And they threw it away because of the fan base.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
When you meet the guy, when you meet the guy's
soul of the Earth, I didn't know what I was
gonna expecting to meet because when we grew up with
the Originals and the Prequels, we were family with all
these expansions of it. George Lucas kept us all together
like a father, even if we were dysfunctional, which we weren't,
he kept us all together.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Well, now that Disney's taken over, it's become like a
high school and you have your different clicks. So you'll
have the Rebels clips together, because you have the Crules clicks,
you have the prequel clicks, you have the sequel clicks.
Where back in the day when we were in the
green room together, we settled together at the same lunch table,
you know what I mean. Dave Prows and Kenny Bacon,

(01:18:51):
all these guys raised me. You know, they'd smack me.
They would you know what I mean, like they would
tell me off they you know what I mean, Like
they were my fans. And now I'm pretty much the
only one who kind of floats around like I did
at school when I was there for the little time
I was, and I'd go to all the different clicks,
you know, and I'm like, hey, Joe, how you doing

(01:19:12):
over here? Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
You know, John, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
So I kind of float where Now, as sad as
it is, we've been separated by like a high school clickup,
you know, and I wish we'd just all come back
together again. The only person that I met recently that
made me feel like we still had it was Rosario Dawson.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Oh yeah, I went up to meet her. She's sweetheart.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Yeah, and she just wrapped her arms around me and
gave me the biggest hug. Yeah. Already known her.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Yeah, Yeah, she was amazing. You know, she was a Yeah.
We sat next to each other at a convention a
couple of years ago, and she couldn't have been cut
sweeter and just kind as can be.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
And I had never worked with her, and yet I
felt like I had, you know. And she just walking
me and was like, yes, we're Emily bring it in
where I get it from other people. But I see
like now I'm becoming the moderator and liaison between Hey,
this person whom the Star Wars.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
Can you ask can you ask that other person who
Star Wars?

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I can get a couple of autographs? Yeah, I'm like, dude,
they're part of that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
I guess our.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Family just going, yeah, can you go do it for me? Daniel?

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
You know, yeah going, So somebody's saving money on spending
money for an autograph because if you get it, you know,
then that's like good and yeah yeah, like I'm I'm
I'm sure, yeah, I give me four hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
I'll be reading a Star Wars actor, this Star Wars
actor's autograph, you know what I mean, And I'm like
you go do it like yeah, yeah, no nowhere. Back
in the day, Dave Prous was was legit. He would
literally come up to me at every commission by Daniel
signed these autographs and I'm like, all right, show no
prom Dave. And then one day I go, what are
these four And he's like, these are my upgrades on

(01:20:51):
an aeroplane, Like what do you mean? It was back
when the door was opened to the cockpit and you'd fly.
You know, I just walk right up there. As soon
as I got on the plane, I'd give the fly
attendants a couple of autographs.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
He just had like little stacks of Kenny Baker out
to me, you know, Jeremy Bullock, and he would just
take him on.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
He would have an economy class seat.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
He would go up. He would give them to the
flight attendants just to get to the pilots. And he
would give the pilots and they'd be like, where are
you sitting He's like, I'm sitting in the back. They
would move him to the front.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Shit, try that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Well, you have to knock on the door nowadays, and
if they don't tackle you before you get there, it's
a little different. But he would literally walk the autographs
of stack he would get from everybody and he would
go and he would get his upgrades that way.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
And he said, I never fly in the back. I
always paid. They always pay for an economy or for economy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Oh, man like Shatner style.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Hey, you know some guys just have a better hustle
than others.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Well, yeah, Shatter's got one. Oh and so and so
does your buddy. Apparently Dave Prowse. That's his.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
So he was the original Darth Vader.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Yeah yeah, inside the costume.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
He was a bodybuilder.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
And then uh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Yeah, and he was in two thousand and one a
Space Odyssey. He was in that on camera.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
He was in something where he carried somebody down the
stairs in a wheelwae clockwalknge, that's it, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Clockwork orange. Yeah, that was the one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
So he had one eye that was crossed and one
eye that was straight, and some fan came up to
me the convention was like, hey, Dan, do you want
to drive my R two unit around?

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
I'm like, hell yes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
So I got the unit and he was kind of
like the older generation where he just sat behind a
table and like he didn't really engage right, and uh,
if you want to take a picture of them, you
just came and stood next to him. And he was
this huge statue of a man, so that you like.
And so I wasn't expecting him to engage in the
R two unit very much as he did. And this
thing had all different type of gadgets. So I rolled

(01:22:54):
it up to his desk. He got up, leant over
and went to touch the EYE two unit, but as
he did, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
I wasn't ready for this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
I opened this flat like flap only got two unit
and it sprays out this like spray mist just where
I had shot where I shot him in his good eye.
And so he turned into downfated real quickly and he
went a why and you should have seen the look
in his face, and so.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
He was so pissed. Uh, and I hid behind the curtain.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
I gave the remote back to the guy, and the
guy went up and told him, no, there was Daniel
Logan because obviously he was trying to track down in
the galaxy who this person was, right, and so he
was pissed.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
He did not talk to me for like six months.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
And that was like having an uncle mad at you,
you know, and like you want to do everything you can, Dave,
how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
And he just he was stubborn and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
He was mad.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Sick man.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
I remember well the way we got back in with
each other.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
He needs some more upgrades. So he came up wanting
more autographs, and I said, so you're gonna talk to
me now. I was like, I'm so sorry. You know,
that was very rude of me to do. I wasn't
expecting you to come over the table and wow.

Speaker 5 (01:24:07):
And I got to remember that the upgrade trick up grade. Yeah,
I don't think we have a problem with that Nowaday,
we wouldn't work with no one would go yeah, whatever,
just shit your aspect.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Then we fly pretty comfortably now yeah, nowadays exactly, we
sit pretty close to each other.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Yeah, That's how I know I'm doing well. If I
sit next by this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
That's how I think I'm doing well.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
I'm in the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Yeah, we're still sitting in the same area together. We
must be doing pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
So far, so good. Yeah, you got a lot of
crazy stuff coming up. Well, I've been ask you that
I might have already asked you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
No, probably, I got my birthday coming up. So I'm
going on our trip with a couple of friends.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Where are you going.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
We're going down to Columbia.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Everybody, we'll meet you at Columbia.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Yes, So we're planning on going to the San Andreas
Islands and then the San Marco Islands. So they're in
the Caribbelt.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Andrea's fault is that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
No? I think that's in California. Yeah, I get out
of California.

Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Yeah, I enjoyed my birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Yeah. My wife's funny. She's like, Daniel, you travel all
over the world, why do you want to go to Columbia.
And I'm like, it's just different, it's cheap. The people
still have culture. Actually went a little while back and
I went to this really nice restaurant. They had the
grandparents sitting with the kids that were sitting with their kids,
and everyone was laughing and joining themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
They were getting up and they were dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
The grandparents were dancing with the kids, the parents were
dancing together, and I was like, this is what we're missing.
This is what we're missing. We're missing culture, we're missing
family time and happiness. And they were just all happy,
enjoying the time together, and I just said, you know what,
I kind of like this. So when they were like,
what do you want to do for your birth you know,

(01:26:00):
let's go back to Columbia, but I want to try
the islands this time, and I want to try to
go around and see the different islands and enjoy the islands.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Galapagos. Is that down there.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
That's an Ecuador.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Ecuador.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Yes, I've actually been there. It's beautiful down there too.
So that's kind of what's attracted me to very cool Caribbean.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
So I got that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
I got a couple of cons coming up to finish
out this year and then yeah, I'm just trying to enjoy.
I try to do one con if that a month.
But last month I got a little carried away. I
just did renovations to my house and so I saw
the bank account, yeah, and I was like, oh, well,
you know, maybe I'll pick up a couple more of
these cons. And I said yes to every I didn't realize,

(01:26:41):
but I said yes to every weekend in May. Two
of them were in Japan. Oh yeah, So I went
to Minneapolis.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Hopefully, hopefully there were back to back weekends.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
No, oh no, So I went first week in Minneapolis
and second week Denver when we did nostalgia. So I
went to Napolis nostalgia.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Yes, that's where we met.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Yes, that's made so as. I good to see you again.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
I got this crazy brain where I remember people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
So I went Minneapolis. One day, I went home, Well
for one day, I always go home. One day I
go home. Uh so one for one day, I went home.
I flew out to Japan for Tokyo for celebration. I
came back. I was home for three days. I went
to Denver, Colorado for nostalgia. I went home for one day.
I flew out back out to Osaka Comic Con, and

(01:27:33):
then I come back home and I went somewhere else
I can't remember. So, yeah, I was tired.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
I was, Yeah, you were tired. That's a lot of
that's almost every time.

Speaker 7 (01:27:43):
Zone I hit him all.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
I didn't know that my life needed punishment, and I
figured what a better.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Time than yeah, yeah, Well, at least you did it
for the fans.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Yes, exactly, a couple of bucks and my family. Yeah,
and you know what I mean, it's it's great, you know.
And but my son he's getting used to daddy leaving,
you know, and I don't want him to get used
to that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Yeah, right right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Yeah. He's like, ah, well, you've got always work at
and I was like, yeah, I know, but you know
it does help us, you know, to have you in
all your sports that we have you in and stuff
and right, you know, so I want to thank you
guys all for helping me to raise my child. I
just want to put it out there. You know, little
Kiden Logan appreciates every single one of you guys for
all his activities he gets to do. But yeah, I

(01:28:33):
just got my Birthday'm gonna I'm gonna get through and
then back on the road and back to selling Star
Wars toys.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Birth right? Can it get your birthday? You're gonna get through?

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Huh yeah, can't do that yet another thirty eight years old?

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Oh yeah, but you could pass for thirty seven and
a half. You know, what's the way I look at it, right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
It's the worst when you start telling people you're forty two,
and then they start saying, well, you look like you
could have been forty one. Yeah, and I really looked
at bad, Like come on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Yeah, I used to look forty one, but I was
thirty at the time. So excuse me. Oh god, I'm
gonna sneeze am I No, okay, good, I'm back as.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Long as you don't sneeze a fart at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Yeah, okay, it doesn't work out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Yeah, there's gotta be a name for that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
We're gonna have to take a break.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
There's got to be a name for that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
A shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Well, no, that's well, that's no, that's just when it
comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
That's yeah, that's a liquid part.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Maybe maybe your viewers can come up with lassie.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Please do Yes, we need to come up with something
just in case it happens. Because they say, as you
get older, you you gotta get older. You get older. Yeah,
you know, you take a fart for granted, you know
what I mean, you get older?

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
They say, yeah, that's true. Yeah, God, sitting here doing
fart noises. Good night, everybody answer. This is the end
of civilization as we know it and we're ushering in
the apocalypse. Yes, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Well yeah, thank you so much for coming on. That
was a great conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
My pleasure.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Knowing Jim for a very long time and it's just
my pleasure to be out to come and time with
you outside these these shows.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Yes, indeed, Amen, Daniel Logan, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Thank you, lutly, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Yeah, we hope you guys enjoyed this episode. We had
a lot of fun talking, that's for sure. That was
a that was a really good discussion. I enjoyed that
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