Raven-Symoné and Miranda Maday (Tea Time)

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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Much better?

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Speaker 1 (00:53):
Crappy yesterday and now that David.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're happy. Yes, we have two very special guests for
you today, none other than Raven Simone and Miranda may Day.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Thank you so much for being here. We're excited.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
We were on the drive in this morning, we were
listening to some interviews that you've done before, and I
have to say, like, you just have such a fascinating
life to me, like just really fascinating because I will
actually elaborate on that because because to me, there's really
only like, off the top of my head, there's really

(01:28):
only like three professions that you can do, like almost
straight out of womb, and that's like acting, singing, acting singing,
and what like performing.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Learn to walk.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, and that's so fascinating to me to just like
have such like your whole life essentially like on camera,
Like that's such a unique human experience.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
You're in the category. You're in that Shirley Temple category.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Definitely know a little bit about her, Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I don't know if she was the Yes, she could
have been the first female. There might have been a
boy beforehand, because we know how America works. But I listen,
Shirley Temple's name was definitely thrown around the house a lot,
and especially in the time that I grew up in
the industry, early late eighties, early yeah, mid.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Eighties, eighty five.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Mayor you were born that's mids.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
That is exactly mid you guys, forget me, I have
math issues.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
It was imperative that someone that looked like me, female
and black, have everything underneath their belt just in case
you get called.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
At any moment.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
And that was something that was definitely drilled into me
at a young age. So dance classes, singing lessons, practicing
and practicing day in and day out, and making sure
you have good grades because you still have to know
the war of eighteen twelve, if there is such a war.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't, I don't. Maybe I have no.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Idea, but at least you got the year right. Some
yearly pissed off. That's insane. Well, no pressure, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, no pressure at all, because this is what life
is about.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I was taught at a very young age that, like,
just because you're a kid in this industry, you still
have to know that there's this amount of money being
made for each episode. If you get sick or if
you want to quit your ruining production and get on
your stuff, and like you have days off and those
are the days you take off, but sick, not sick,

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just get up and work.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
So no pressure, no, not at all, any talking pressure.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
And you were raised in and a round show business
as well, as far as I understand correct, this is correct.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Yeah, my parents both were big show biz people, and
they're in the sense that, like my mom wanted to
be an actress and my dad always knew he wanted
to do something in the industry. And they met actually
in school doing shows. I'm named after Miranda from The Tempest, okay,
and so they were big Shakespeare lesbians. And then yeah,

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they moved to Los Angeles had me. My dad worked
at CBS and then he went over to Warner Brothers
and he worked at Warner Brothers for I think like
twenty eight twenty nine years. So yeah, when by the
time that I was born, I was you know, I
was a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
So you don't get starstruck or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Not really, not really. I feel like there's the one off,
you know. I mean honestly, you like.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
What you well, just so much respect.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, a childhood it's the childhood nostalgia. I think that
you know, you're I mean like Winnie the Pooh, I
mean that was like, so, so you have to do
the voice for him?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well I suppose I could, but only honey, oh, poor Raven,
that is so raven of you.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
It is a camera can I put that as my ringtone.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's the only time. That is the only time I
claim that.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
See what I'm saying. I want to be can who
say my name?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I don't think so it would be ever so hard.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
He's like, no, Miranda, No.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's well, you know, I did a cartoon at Bonkers
and my partner was Miranda, right, So is that's kind
of cool?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah that is.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
But it's nice to meet you, Miranda. Oh that was Bonkers,
by the way, And it is nice to meet you, Miranda.
And you're just both as sweet as honey. And I
know you're an excellent Bochler and I could give you
a Bountain lesson. That's what the best.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
I'm a star struck moment because that's that's our that's childhood.
I mean, that's like my mom would probably weep hearing
that because Winnie the Pooh was so so special, so special.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
My question to you is, I really do have a question.
I know this is your podcast question. Please, when you
were up for that role, did you already craft that
voice going in or did they help mold that voice
from you?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
No? You know it was God bless him. Sterling Halloway
Late Sterling Halloway. He the character actor. He was Winning
the Pooh in sixty four maybe nineteen sixty five, and
I was just a little towerp and I heard that
voice and I would do it. Well, We're sitting around
playing Monopoly, and it would be I.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Believe I shall buypuck place.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know, and I just played around doing it.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Never, I mean at a hundred years, you would never
think maybe I'll grow up and they'll make a cartoon
of this, Winnie the Pooh care because it was they
were just the first three from the sixties. And then
they took off for twenty years.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, which was good.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Because I've always said it gave me a chance to
grow up and then then I could finally and God
bless him. They started the series, The New Adventures of
Winnie the Poop, and of course they called him in
to do it Sterling Halloween. But at that point he
was quite old. He was in his nineties maybe late nineties,

(07:41):
and so it and it was interesting because he already
had an older sound. I mean, you know, that's not
a ten year old, you.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Know, was supposed to be a ten year old.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well no, but I don't think so. But he appealed
to them.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yes, and you know, I mean it is Winnie the Pooh.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's let's go with that.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
So is Morgan Freeman. So how old is why get
out of here?

Speaker 5 (08:06):
It turns one hundred next year, Yeah, Morgan Freeman turns
one hundred. I was like, God, damn you guys ageless.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
If my friend Tom Kane was here, he could answer
his Morgan Freeman. I think he did a lot of
doubling for him.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
So I'm curious to know with your voice, did you
just as a child realize that he had a little parrot?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Like?

Speaker 5 (08:31):
How does one realize.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
This incredibly annoying? Could you imagine sitting around with me
as because I was worse than now I have a barometer.
Now I can pull it down back then I was like, hey,
you know I'm doing it. Was just like, oh, shut
this kid up. You know I was the poster boy
for ADHD. You know I just made monkey our pay off.

(08:55):
I didn't know that people would pay you. Yeah, but
I found out and I said, okay, wow, let's do this.
I ain't going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
You know it was your favorite person to impersonate.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Oh boy, I don't know. I never thought of it.
Wait a minute, I'm supposed to be asking the question.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
I'm sorry, sorry, No.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
My favorite person to impersonate God I don't know. You know,
Jack Nicholson's in there somewhere, and uh, Goley.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
You don't do many impersonations, had a ton. Yeah, it's
interesting on this podcast, like learning like the different facets
of like voice acting. We just had Efron Ramirez. You
played Pedro on Napoleon Dynamo. Wow, And like it's so
interesting to me because like the more you focus on
like any aspect of like humanity or any talent, any

(09:48):
any job, any career, like it seems to get so
like hyper focused that like, okay, you feel like you
understand most of it, and then it branches back out
and there's like all these other fingers of it, you know.
And I say all that to go back to my
initial statement of like, you know, there's voice actors who
are like great impressionists, and then voice actors who are
you know, great at coming up with voices, you know,

(10:08):
unique voices and matching voices. And then there's there's another
one that's like voice actors who just have a great voice.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yes, like you and like you you have a great voice.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, thank you, And yeah, you know, they get cast
over and over, like the guy who played Archer and
Bob's Burgers.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
And oh my god, he's everywhere.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah he's a great Benjamin.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, but yeah, it's just so fascinating to like learn
all these different facets of show business in general. Interesting,
you know, like what I initially said to you, that's
what fascinates me so much about like your life, you know,
not just like your career, but your life is such
a unique human experience. And I was even thinking about
it on the drive here, like nobody can really even

(10:51):
like teach you how to navigate life because it's how
unique it is, right, so therapist can.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, you have probably somebody in them, you know, Like.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Who who do you look up to and like to
guide you who's had that same experience. It's hard to
you know, look up to people who haven't necessarily walked
in shoes before.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
And now I assume you have not met Shirley Temple.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Great, if I met Shirley Temple, that was my best tea.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Was there anybody in your life that you know, kind
of gave you some guidance in that in that kind
of way.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, for sure, I'm going to answer two different ways.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yes, I do have people in my life that guide
my career and me as a human because of their
career in this industry.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
And then there are people that I.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Wish I could be guided by, but they're they're out
of reach and they're not in my vibration. So I'll
say it this way. Debbie Allen is someone that I
look up to and admire and revere and just want
to be up underneath her all the time because her
career I'm shadowing her right now. Her career is spectacular, and.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Who Debbie Allen?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Okay, Debbie Allen is doing things that at her age
that I want to do at her age and now.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
So she is someone that is definitely on the list.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
And I have some people behind the scenes as well,
like Debora Martin Chase and people like that. However, the
Jodie Fosters or the Ron Howards that actually started as
a child and then became directors, and like, I wish
I could be in their vibration and be in their
world because I think the conversation would look different for

(12:32):
me moving forward.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
What I'm pretty sure Ron Eric does podcast. I'm serious.
I think he was on Michael Rosenbaum's.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
If I'm not mistaken, Oh that's fire, then I'll reach
out because him, Jody. Very few people can say that
they've been in the industry before they can walk. I mean,
it's the Ulson Twins and myself and people like that.
But I couldn't read, and I was doing scripts and
entertaining people.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
So yeah, yeah, I heard you telling a story that
your parents would read you scripts as bedtime stories.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, you read them right before you go to sleep.
I go to sleep, I wake up, and then as
I kind of talk to my therapist and uncover some stuff.
I'm writing my memoir right now. It is the constant
throughout the day, the rehearsal, and then when I get
home the new pages my dad and I guess my
mom too, but I think it was mostly my dad,
you know, reading the script back and forth to me

(13:31):
before all through the day, before I go to sleep,
and then when I wake up, it's there. So they
also said I had a photographic memory when I started
to look at scripts, and it's kind of true now
even still, like I can look at a script, you've
experienced it, right, how quickly. I can like memorize it,
but I definitely forget it, which is the side effect
of the job that I have, which is I have

(13:53):
a horrible memory, Like my brain just purges things. I
can't remember what happened yesterday or you know, I'll remember
big events or really traumatic ones, but you can't tell
me what I said in a script.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, and you know I've got a little of that too.
I I wonder what that is, because you know, I
tend to remember things and now I can not so
much anymore.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
But but.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
You remember it as long as you need it exactly.
And oh I don't need that anymore. I can get
to Okay. Now I got a clean slate. Now I
can absorb some new bullshit that I soon will not
need exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And they'll change it probably.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I don't know how yours works, but they love to
change the script from Monday to Wednesday when I'm rehearsing.
So I'm learning one script on Monday and by Friday
it's a whole it's new things, and the brain just
learns to purge.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah. Well, fortunately for me, I just read it first
time because I just do animation. That's it, and I
the only the time the first time I read it,
it's being recorded. That's why I it, you know, I
just I don't, you know, because a lot of times
I'll do read throughs and yeah, and that's fine, and

(15:06):
I'll do it if I have to, but I'd prefer
to just don't just put it right there. No, no, no,
because you know, my joke is in stinks are the
best stinks and and I love that, you know. The
first thing that pops out into your head and out
of my mouth at this point is, uh, it's probably
pretty good, you know, And we'll do another take if

(15:27):
we have to.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
You know, I understand that my wife and my wife
and I kind of have this situation at at home
when she does tiktoks. I was always taught do it
right the first time, get it done. And you know,
they used to call me a one take wonder back
on the Cosby Show, like you if you did it twice,
I'm kind of gonna forget what I did beforehand, and
you're not going to get.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
The same thing, okay.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
And so even on that so Raven and Raven's Home,
they were like, you never did the same take twice,
and I'm like yeah, And in my head, I'm like, because.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I don't remember what I did?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
And then when my wife is doing tiktoks with me,
she's like, can we do it again?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I'm like, I just did it fantastic already, you need
to do it one more time. I'm like, this is
the third time? Are you sure? But you know not
every well.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I always thought that that was an odd thing. Anyway,
that was perfect again? Right now? This time? What happened
to that was perfect?

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Where that was perfect? Go?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I agree, I fully agree. That's why I don't use
that word when I direct. Now I'm like, okay, okay,
let's get another one. Let's see you know what I mean,
because if it was perfect, you don't need it again.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, that's what I agree.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, let's let's let's do another perfect. Let's do another perfect,
rewind it, play it again exactly. Hey, let's do that.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I love that we won good.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
I think that's why sometimes when you work on a
movie or a television show and you're so frustrated by
the length of the hour of the work day. Because
I just said that in such a twisted way, but
I think you guys understood what I was saying. But
I worked on a move where I mean I was
on set, no joke, twenty hours a day, and the

(17:06):
length of time obviously that our actors were there was
much less, but they would do the same scene and
this director actually ended up getting called out for it
and it was a whole thing. But I mean six
hours on one scene. I kid you not just and
you know you haven't met your day at that point.
Like the it was insane and I know we had
to turn the camera around and get it. But the

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amount of times that he would require a scene to
be shot was wild.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
It was.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
I mean, by the end of it, I had the
whole I had everything memorized because I was hearing.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
It so much.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
It was wild, I would imagine. And then they ended
up using the first one. Oh probably right, that's the kicker.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Or they just cut the whole scene, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like that that's always good.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah, you're like, where was that moment? Oh they cut it?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, wonder those so much?

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
But what inspired you to start a podcast?

Speaker 5 (18:01):
I really felt like podcasting was my medium, and I
for what reason, I feel like I've had She likes
I like to talk I like having conversation. I really
really enjoy getting to know people and having insightful and
intentional conversation. And I think that I used to work

(18:26):
as a birth doula, and what is that? What birth
doula is somebody who supports women through their labor and
delivery or their pregnancy and then their postpartum. A midwife
can actually deliver a baby, a doula cannot. A doula
is really just a support person.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'd be good and I could probably do that one.
Oh you know what I'm gonna go. I'm gonna get
a college.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
What time is it exactly? You probably could do it.
And it's really just about knowing how to advocate and
show up for the person who's having a baby. Yeah,
it's amazing work. And I realized though, and having conversations
with my clients and with families, that there was such
a lack of education and understanding, especially for first time parents.

(19:17):
And I was like, Okay, this is interesting. So I
kind of tried to start a podcast that focused on
that didn't really go. And then Raven and I simultaneously
started doing just fun things on Instagram or lives and
people were really enjoying the banter between us and we
started a YouTube channel in the beginning of covid, and
the parts of the YouTube channel just kind of morphed

(19:40):
into what is now tea Time and it's been great.
It's been a real ride, but I love I love it,
and I'm excited to see where it goes.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, sounds like you guys have a good time on
there watching a couple episodes.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, yeah, we do have a good time.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
We do, and we have fun with each other. I
think that's the thing too, is it's interesting to do
that with your partner because we learn stuff about each
other and it's also for us time for us to communicate,
you know what.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
She's saying that as a personal thing because normally I'm
extremely quiet.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm extremely quiet. No, I mean you're I am quiet,
and I know that you are quiet.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
But it's which I love. I don't mind. But it
is fun to come in with like a specific topic
that we know we're going to dive into and just
talk to each other for an hour.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
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Speaker 3 (20:50):
That's interesting that you say you're quiet, because I've actually
noticed that among several actors where it's like you wouldn't
think that they're quiet or shy or anything like that.
Tell me of this. If it's like this for you,
do you feel like performing you kind of like get
to express like this wild side of you, and that's
like a medium of you to showcase that side of it.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
That's so well said.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Maybe for me, I'm an introvert whose job is to
be an extrovert.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Oh that's just my job.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, But it seems like you really enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I've been doing it for thirty eight years and thirty
ninety so it's more of a that's just what I do,
you know, So that's kind of hard. I enjoy it
because I've done it for so long. But then I
also am just doing stuff by route as well, like
I know how to turn it on and then it's

(21:44):
funny even in our five year marriage.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
She's like, you have so much energy when you go out,
and I'm like, babe, do you want me or do
you want Raven Simone.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
She's like, I want you and I'm like, okay, well
then I'm a little bit introvert.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
This was at the beginning of our relationship.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
I'm like, I'm more introverted, I think because I have
to extrovert so much for work.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
But I also know people in the industry that are
extrovert out and in all the time, I personally can't
be friends with those people because I think that.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
It's a drain.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
It's work, and there's two sides of me, you know
what I mean, Like I wouldn't be able to be
that person. However, with what you said it the work
that I do does help, you know, expel that extra
energy that might come out that at home shows up
as cleaning the entire house in four hours, you know
what I mean, Or like being in my painting room

(22:36):
and staying there for two days and just painting a
whole bunch.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
But to me, knowing you, that's even a different person
like Raven Simone that the world knows is there's such
a distinct switch, and I can see the minute that
she changes over into that mode. That's not even the
person you get on our podcast or anything like that.
The person that is getting energized when we go out.
That's just like any one of us who can be

(23:00):
energized in a new environment. That's just a normal human thing.
I think when your brain truly switches to work mode.
And there's even difference between director Raven and actor Raven
and you know.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Saying I have multiple personalities and that's okay.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
They're just like very clear and clean differences between And
I think that I know some people who are very
very one note, meaning like they're an actor and but
they're completely the same person. And then there are some
people who are much more layered, and that's closer to Raven.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Oh there you go.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Well my old choke was I'm schizophrenic and so am I.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I love That's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I love them. Yeah, it's I always say, it's stuff
you get me kicked out of class.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, and look at us making you money. Now, that's
the thing, you know.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
I mean, you got to look at the talent that
is naturally oozing out of what we can condemn at
some points, especially when their children, and instead of medicating
or instead of you know, shunning them, it's like, where
is what are you?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
What talent? Can we mold that.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Into Yeah, you know that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I think that will help a lot in our younger people.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, boy, yeah, I did not have that. They said, God,
what's the matter with him? You know, I got a
lot of that, and like this kid, huh Jesus Christ,
you know, and and Phoenix barbital. That was what they
were getting. That was they had to give. I guess
I was, you know, climbing there. I am now it

(24:41):
was five years old. Come on, get down here. And
because I was climbing the walls and doing crazy sounds
and imitating all my aunts and uncles and and and
some people thought that was funny. Some people thought that
get barbarital.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, and some people thought you were calling.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
I don't know what that is?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Well it was apparently, but no, it was something to
calm your ass down. Yeah, you know to he's hype.
I used to get it was hyper. I was hyper.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
They didn't have a name for it.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
If you put kids like you at that time, if
there was an outlet for theater if it wasn't so
stigmatized slash in school systems. I was having a conversation
with a mother recently, and she was saying that I
don't want to use her words, and I know she's going
to be out here in the world talking about it soon.

(25:34):
But what I liked what she said was when you
have a kid, you need to make sure that you
give them an outlet. Some people go into football, some
people go into baseball, and her child tried a lot
of different things, but the only thing that stuck was theater.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
And a lot of times boys are so overlooked, meaning
people see really really energized boys and then they just
want to say, oh, you have ADHD and let me
sit you down. That was me, yeah, And so for example,
my mom ended up teaching English later in her life,
and she would be teaching these middle school boys and

(26:08):
of course the theater woman and my mother was loving
this and having so much fun. But she was like,
my boys couldn't sit still, and my girls were fine
sitting still, but she would have the boys just stand up.
She's like, we're gonna read this book, but stand up,
move around, play with the words. How does this make
you feel and all of a sudden they were interested
in reading and they were engaged and they had play

(26:30):
with it. And I think that if people were able
to take a little bit more time to kind of
recognize the individual or see what people needed, kids.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Needed, it would channel it.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Yeah, it could change channel it somewhere. And it's not
it's not always about just like someone who can follow
direction and stay in line and do what is meant
to be done between the school hours of nine to
three or whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Like, oh, they are trying to train sheep. I mean
that is you know, they don't really they don't really
like wolves out here.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
This is true.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
And it's sad because you're right, I wish they did
do that more. But they're looking to see how well
you can just fall in line, Like you said, it's sad.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, very very few guests on this show went to college,
you know, had like a formal education. A lot of
entertainers just doesn't really seem to match up quite.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I went to college, you did, I did.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I went to college. I went to the art school.
I have a fine art degree, so'm I paint wow?

Speaker 4 (27:22):
And I did that right before right after Broadway, and
I was like, I hate this industry. I'm getting out.
And I retired for like three years and I got
a degree.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, what brought you to that point of saying I
want to get out?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
We don't have enough time on this podcast?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Or should we say who brought you?

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Like?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
You know what if I have to put up with
one more day with this a hole?

Speaker 3 (27:44):
You know?

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I mean because there our.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
List is too long. Oh, the industry is too big?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
And how old were you in this time?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Twenty something?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Oh? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
The fact about Raven is is that if Raven wasn't
put in this industry, I am ninety nine percent confident
that she would not be in this industry. And there
are some people who are just obsessed with it and
want to be in it, like me where I was
like watching from the sidelines and saw what my dad
did and I was like, I want to do that
and love the magic of a set and just I

(28:17):
mean being at Warner Brothers as a kid was my
happiest moment. Anytime I could get there, I was there
and it didn't matter what I was doing.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Let's the exact same way growing up.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah, that's certain way to go to set exactly. Yeah,
and some of us just have that, and then others
of us just want to be somewhere else. And I
think Raven has like those passions and interests that really
would put you in an art studio, like you don't
want to paint, you would want science and space and
things like that. So I think it's also interesting to
be put in something right.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, I found a passion now.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
I remember when I left Broadway, I would look myself
in there and be like, you don't have passion for anything.
And people started to ask me that question because I
was older, and they were like, what's your passion? I'm
like acting, but it's it's not true. So I had
to leave. I went to school found a version of passion,
which was creating. And now I can look and somebody

(29:11):
can ask me that, and I can say, you know,
even though I told my parents that when I was
younger that I can do what Rudy can do, what
I think I was actually saying was I want to
I want to mold what Rudy did, meaning.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I want to direct.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
I love creating the picture, which is what I learned
in art school. I love composition. I love being able
to fix problems. I'm really good at problem solving and
tasking and I found that out through the acting journey.
So I know that that journey that I had that.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Was tumultuous and traumatic, brought me.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
To a place now to where I can be like action.
I know exactly what needs to happen. I know what
the light's doing, I know what the actors need to do.
I know how to schmooze the suits. But I don't
need to be in front at the camera. Yeah, and
I will be in the future. But it's more things
that I want to do, not because I have to
do them right right.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah that's nice.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
That's a good place to be.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, it took a long time.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah, it took a while.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
What kind of stuff do you like to direct, specifically,
like comedy drama?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yeah, I mean I do sitcom so that comedy I
really like.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
I like directing drama.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I like artistic pieces, I think because I.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Watch more of that. I'm a comedy snob.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
So until Jim Carrey wants to come back into the
fold flit an Adam Sandler, then I don't care.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm like that person. I'm like, where is Adventurer Seven?
I'm doing it acting and directing.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
It was so fun.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
It'll be so good. But that's like my that's the
way that I was raised. So yeah, I like drama.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
I like we're venturing into a lot of different things,
but I want to go into the things that I
watched that are on my queue, that are like I
love like she said, I love science.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
So we just watched Interstellar with her mom over our
vacation and I was just.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Like, yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's a great movie.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
So good lift go yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
What happened to sitcoms? What happened?

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I have a theory.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
I bet you did. I want to hear it.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
My theory about sitcoms is it's twofold. Well there's threefolds. Actually,
writing changed because some people did sitcoms cheaper, and then
everyone saw that it could be done cheaper, and therefore
the trickle came down and sitcoms didn't didn't keep its

(31:59):
place of showcasing actual family situations to help further society. Right,
there was a time when sitcoms just stopped and became
the boom bumps and the oh yeah man, instead of
this is you know, a goodness gracious, some loose Archie

(32:23):
Bunker or The Cosby or even Good Times Red Fox,
where you were dealing with social commentary and these comedians
and comedians it circled around their comedy and pushed out
you know what I mean. Now you can get a
sitcom and yeah there's comedians, but it's.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Like, where's that umph?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
And also here's the third fold s and p our.
Society has really created a barrier of speaking the truth
in an authentic way that they did back in the day.
I mean, all in the Family, they had an episode
about rape for goodness sake, so you know what I mean,
you had real family conversations on The Cosby Show. You know,

(33:09):
you had even Seinfeld just a show about nothing. You know,
I dare somebody to do that right now with a
brand new comedian that just got off of TikTok.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
You know what I mean. Like, it's really it's different.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
I think the laugh track.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Killed Big Bang Theory. Yeah, Big Bang Theory?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Did you love it? Cool? Moving on?

Speaker 5 (33:34):
That was a huge show.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I couldn't watch it. I couldn't watch it.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Yeah, but that was massively successful.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
But again it's because it fit. It hit all the molds,
but it was just not the soul.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
When you started describing that, that was the first show
that came to my mind.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
It's like, yeah, yeah, it was a coldness to that show.
It felt formulaic. You be this guy, you be the
sidekicker sort of, and you you guys over here, can
you Let's let's put him in a weird ass sweater everything,
and he'll.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Be every sweater guy.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Then we need some foreigner. How about a guy from
oh perfect? This guy you know that guy who I sorry,
whoever you are. You're really great actor, though, though.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
You it just became tropes and stereotypes of what sitcoms.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Used to be.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah. I think, in my personal opinion, I think cartoons
kind of pushed in a lot too, like adult cartoons.
You know, you get the Simpsons, the Rick and Mortis,
the American Dad family guy, and that kind of like
took over into the sitcom space south Park. You know,
these shows have been going for thirty years, Yeah, literally
thirty years and around like probably within the first decade

(34:54):
of that run is probably. And that's my theory is
like the cartoons really kind of took over that space.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
You're right, I think you're right. It's interesting because we
talk about this a lot, and we have a production
company and we are always kind of you know, idea generating,
and one of the things that we are committed to
kind of bringing back is a really good sitcom. And
I mean this is sitcom Royalty, Like she is the
Queen of the multicamp. So it's like we got to
figure it out, you know, we know people would love it.

(35:22):
But I think you're absolutely right about the cartoon element.
And I don't know what else. We watched The mat
About You pilot not that long ago, the original, and
it's just so good and as somebody who writes on
occasion but is also you know, I produce, I was
watching it. I'm like, what what is it? Or even

(35:43):
going back and watching what it was, but even watching
some of that so raven, it's like you could net.
It's like kids today are so different. They wouldn't even
act this way. It's just like, I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
We watered down, we got Yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Just something is shifted and I don't I don't know
the answer. I don't. The cartoon thing is new to me,
and I think that's actually a very good answer. But
I am constantly asking that question.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
And American Dad is a wonderful American Dad is a
wonderful sitcom that took the sitcom. When you said that,
I was like, oh my god. That is a family
dealing with issues, super funny point of view, not afraid.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Pushing the envelope, you know, and writing killer, writing experimental.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
And I will say there is one sitcom that I
am actually a part of, and I.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Will boast as everybody should watch.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
I know, say it.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
The Miss Patch Show. The Miss Pat Show is taking
those risks. She is going out on the limb. And
I've seen her work and I respect her work.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Where do we watch that on b et?

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Plus the reason I respect her work is because I
saw her in the writer's room and the writers. I
love you guys, you know I love you, but I
gotta call you it really fast. They will do a
joke and she's like, I heard that joke on three
other shows.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Do it again. And then they try again. She's like,
I heard that joke on two other shows. Do it again.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
She will do it, and we if you watch sitcoms,
the same jokes get done over and over again. She
refuses to do it, and she pushes that envelope every
single episode, and those the entire casting crew are working
so hard to create originality.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, and it's got to be harder than ever to
write jokes these days. I mean, like even for comedians,
like you know, you don't you have to put your
jokes out there. You have to keep coming up. You
don't get like a tight five and go tour around
and nobody knows, you know, like you have to put
that on TikTok and social media and then okay, now
I got to get some new jokes and that's gonna
get taken by this streamer and blah blah blah, and

(37:39):
it's gotta be tough.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
It's got to be tough.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
And I think people like Miss Pat and that and
that and that whole crew what they're doing too. And
to me, a joke is really simple. If you look
at the scenario that a great character is in, you
got a joke because it's a situational comedy, you know
what I mean. It's this is not a one two
three punch, This is a raven Baxter is in the

(38:03):
middle of a bowl of soup.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Go, you know what I mean, Like, that's stupid, but
you laughed and there was that you said, that's period.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
We're looking for.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
It's that simple. And when you have a great character,
that's and that's what has been kind of fun, you know,
working on some of the projects that we have and
that Raven is attached to acting and we have another
really fantastic actor attached and it's kind of like these
two walk into a dental office say less period, like
you know, you know what I mean, funny, you're goodxactly.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Because it's about the situation.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
But that's a gift to have actors that are that
skilled that they know how to then fall into their
craft and make us laugh. That's that's you don't find
that today either really, you know what I mean, Or
it's not people aren't being bred or taught how to
do that.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
You're definitely not being taught.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, if you're making soup, you got to have the
right ingredients and that's what they are exactly. That's what's
up definitely.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
And that's like you were saying earlier, the lightning and
a bottle element, you know, like so hard, it's so
hard to find that, but when you have it, you
know it everyone feels that energy.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, jeez, this is quite a seminar. We're getting here, Hollywood,
appreciate this.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
I think it's no.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Sorry, good, well, it's interesting. You know, we're talking about
things transforming and everything. And obviously, Jim, you can attest that.
Attest to that as well with how animation has changed
over the years, you know what I mean, animation itself
has changed, even how it's recorded.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah, I missed the days it used to be.
It was more like a sitcom, you know we do.
We were doing Dark Wing Duck and a lot of
the Winny the Poos.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
And it was Dark Wing Duck.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yea, keep going, oh look what am I going to
do with you? But but it was everybody that was
in the room. And I always said that acting is reacting. Yeah, yeah,
I mean it's and and when and then of course
COVID forget about it. Nobody there was no such thing
as an ensemble. No, no, indeed no, you had to.

(40:10):
In fact, some of them they were so stupid. Can
you wait in the car? Okay? I get no. Actually,
now that you ask, no, I'm gonna be sitting copping
a squat and reading these ten year old national geographics, and.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Exactly I have to jump in and tell a story
about this time here we go because it was like, honestly,
one of my favorite times in LA was during the
pandemic working in show business because it was just so
hilariously inconsistent. They paid you to get COVID tested, so
I was getting tested every day. I was okay bringing that.
It was like sixty bucks every time you got really yeah,

(40:48):
and you have to get tested in the morning and
when you left work wrong. My favorite thing, my favorite
I was doing like background work, that's audience work. And
my favorite thing though, and I spread it to all
my friends was game shows because game shows had like
ten people on them and they all had to be

(41:09):
from LA. They weren't flying anybody in, so I was like, gods,
you're guaranteed to win, Like hilarious, I know the casting
agent for the prices rasm like, let's go on this
and I want a trip to Thailand, Like yeah, I
remember that got a far huge, big screen TV. My
friends didn't believe me. I was like, guys, like literally,
I'll give you the casting agent's email, like you send

(41:30):
a picture and you'll go on. They have to have
like there's a dozen of you there, and they bring
up ten people on stage.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
That's wow, Like if.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
You have absolutely no personality whatsoever, you're gonna be one
of the two people not called up, like hike yourself
up for a day.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
That's How was the Thailand trip?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
It was great? It was great. I went with my sister.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
When did you you want it in twenty twenty? But
when did you have to wait to go?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
It was like a year?

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Okay, that's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Fantastic, Yeah, twenty grand too. It was on a let's
make it deal with Wayne Braden.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
You're totally manifesting the next COVID. I can see this.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I want this time back. She too, don't worry, Yeah
she was.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I got my sister on there. But yeah, it was.
It was great. It was great. It was a really
fun time and it was like your and then the
the just the cap off this story was hilarious because
they'd always be like, okay, when you say where you're from,
like say where you like born or like something, because
they don't want everybody like from Los Angeles, from Los Angeles,
from Los Angeles from it just like makes like do

(42:34):
you do you have like relatives in Phoenix? Like you're
from Phoenix?

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Have you ever been to New York. You're from there.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Welcome to Hollywood people. That's a great story.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
It's so funny.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
in ad free access to the show, what's prize drawings,

(43:08):
slash Jim Cummings podcast Do It Now.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Yeah, covid was wild in this industry.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I loved it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah. We used to say, you can't catch COVID on camera.
Everybody has their mask on rolling. Okay, that's what.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Got the double standard was wild.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Oh my god, it was crazy.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
My favorite was having to take a picture with people
and just holding people holding their breath.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I'm like, I don't think that's how it works. I
don't think that holding your breath is gonna help it.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's only gonna glass just so long. And
you know the most absurd thing was, you know, I down,
I just do voiceover. So you have to wear a
mask when you're in the lobby. You had to wear
a mask walking down the hall. Now here's the engineer.
He's doing this. Okay, take your mask off. How does

(43:58):
COVID know that I've got a microphone?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Right?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
How does it know.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
No condoms on the microphone?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Yeah, I mean hilarious.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
What the hell it was? So we're okay now, oh wait,
but if I get up and go to the bathroom,
I could be spreading the hell out of it.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
We did something where Raven was announcing, and again, so
many protocols, like I had to get special permission to
even come as he plus one, We had to wear
masks the whole time, we had to take our tests. Okay,
we get there and there's like twenty thirty people who
are all part of this presenting situation, and I'm standing there.

(44:38):
I was very germophobic during COVID. It really kicked it
up at me. But I was very aware of watching
where everyone's hands would go and whatever. Twenty to maybe
thirty people are all sharing this one mic. Every single
one of them is just and I'm watching people. I
kid you not, I won't do it to this mic
because I'm respectful, but they were clips to the mic.

(44:58):
Yeah people do that, yes, and they would hand it
to the next person handed it and I said, I
was like, you get that mic. You better you know,
like wipe it down because I've seen like thirty people
lick it, but you had it. And I was like,
and then spit on it, and they and all the
steps that it took for me to sit in the
back with a mask on, not talk to anyone, look

(45:19):
at anyone, to just be here, and I was like,
this is this is insane.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I remember when it first happened.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
I got called from I got a call from the
head of the network and he was like, Raven, you know,
are you going to be okay with this? And I
was like, I don't know. He's like, I just got
I just got swabbed and they stick it all the
way up to your brain handle that I was like.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Oh, I'm not coming to set. And then by the
time we got to.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Set, it was lower and lower than it was the
mouth then it was not I got COVID twice once
from set and then once all.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Day I had it. I had it once was you
know it was what it was.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
I didn't even know.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I know, really, I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I just thought I felt like sleeping, okay, and uh,
and I went to the doctor and he said, uh, well,
and this is like way or a long time ago.
Maybe I was the first guy. Maybe that's my.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
Fault, but zero zero, that's my doctor was kind of cool,
and I just told him myself, well, I feel like
I felt kind of fleming and kind of.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Goes, oh, you've got the latest import from our friends
in Wuhan, China. Oh my god, what he goes, Yeah,
you got the you got the Wuhan They called it
the Wuhuan because.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
That was super early.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Yeah, I mean it was in February. You were calling
it the China virus. That was the first week exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, and uh apparently there was a school of thought
that they, the Chinese, were trying to screw us, and
so let's get them all sick. Yeah you know. And
and it didn't work because I didn't. I mean, and
I was so sick. I didn't know I was sick.
That's how sick I was.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
I go ahead, yeah, double things. I went to New
York in January of twenty twenty, and as I was leaving,
the person driving the car was like, oh, look at this,
this is crazy, And the other people in the car
were kind of like, oh, no, that doesn't mean anything.
Got back to Los Angeles and February. First week of February,

(47:24):
I was so sick, and in my head I was like, oh,
it's just you know, a flu. Yeah, it's just a flu. No.
It was definitely not as sick as I had ever been,
but we didn't know anything about it at that point,
so I was okay. Few months. I mean, by March,
everyone was hysterical, and I think, goodness I didn't get
it then because I probably would have ended up in

(47:44):
the hospital just out of share anxiety, because I felt like, oh,
oh gosh, yeah, sure, sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Those were wild times. Wild.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Can you believe that it's only been five years and
we're just now starting to like rise, not even like
I still feel like our industry is trying to get
back on its feet, like it really broke.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Really dragging their feet though, because they love doing everything
from home. I swear.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Everyone loves you guys.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
You have a tripod and set up a ring light
and film yourself on a blank wall. Actually order one
of these green screens from Amazon. Do it all yourself yourself,
teach yourself how to be an engineer.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Exactly, exactly, yeah, and then yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Getting no notes on anything.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yeah, it's so true, no notes, and then all the
money depleted, and now we're having a problem getting stuff made.
Smaller things can't get made. It's it's it was a
real flip of the industry.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Was really weird. And just going back to you, that
just made me think of another thing I was thinking
about on the drive in this morning, was you've you've
been in the industry thirty years. Yeah, thirty plus, thirty
plus plus, so and you're still in your thirties, which
is crazy.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
She's twin she's twenty eight. That's That's the thing that
I will say.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
One thing I love to say my age.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Oh yeah, because one, females in this industry need to
be okay with saying there.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Age, that's right.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Two I look good for my age now period.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
And three, im, I'll be forty this year and I've
been in the industry for thirty nine years.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Wow, So I always say my age. You'll never not
see me.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Sorry, no, that's perfect.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
But being in that you've seen so many changes within
the industry. I mean like literally, I would say there's
been like three major shifts in that time. That's definitely
three major shifts. So what's that been like for you
as a performer adjusting to those shifts?

Speaker 4 (49:35):
It's been a mess, you know, very very clunky with
each level up. I guess you can kind of call
it the first shift for me and I hope we're
on the same What are your three shifts?

Speaker 2 (49:47):
What do you think they are? And I'll tell you
what I think they are.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
I think I think somewhere like probably right around when
you were a child, it was kind of shifting. It
was kind of shifting. Then I'm not really sure how,
but it was. And then I think prominently like in
the I want to say, like the early two thousands. Yeah,
like there was like a major shift, it felt like.
And then I would say the third one is the

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major shift back to like political correctness. And then I
think we're starting to once again experience another one that'll
probably fully solidify like by the end of the decade
in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Interesting, Okay, so my brain went to these shifts digital, Instagram, TikTok,
social media.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
And then streaming.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
I would completely agree. And that kind of coincides.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
With the data emerging all of this mergers that end
up buying different companies like Studio Power, Yes, Amazon totally.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
So being in the industry during those three milestones of
technology growth and Hollywood growth have, like I said, been
very clunky, you know, having to live in a world
where or the National Inquirer and the Star was our
version of the comments section and not. At that time,

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it was moral and virtuous not to touch people under
the age of eighteen. They didn't really talk about anybody
under the age of eighteen unless you were Brookshields or
something like that that kind of put themselves, that had
themselves put out there like that. And then I was like, okay, cool,
I understood Papa Rozzi. It was very calm for me

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because again I was under the age of eighteen.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Now.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Then TVO came and you can start recording things and
seeing them over and over again. If you wanted to
see something over you had to record it yourself, or
you had to wait for the rerun later period or
go to.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Nick at night, you know what I mean. Then social media.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
I remember my first clunky thing was I was on
video and I got a call from my team.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
They were like, what are you doing. You're talking about
your real life. You're showing the inside of your home.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
What are you doing, and I'm like, I'll listen to
you guys, but I'm letting you know right now something's happening,
Like I if you really go back in the archives.
I was actually on social media at the very beginning,
and then I got off real quick because the people
in my industry told me that I shouldn't do that,
because the celebrity growth that I was taught was the

(52:19):
more personal things they know, the less anonymity you have,
and the less your star shines in the way that
they blur the lines between personal and celebrity. And I
was always taught, don't let them know who you're dating,
don't let them know your personal life, all.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
That kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
And I remember that, and then you know, you have
the Britney spears and people started to you know, kind
of bleed out a little bit more. And then social
media came in and it's like, oh, okay, now we
have these people purely getting famous off of what they
do personally. Now we have to fight with you don't
want to know me because I'm playing a character and

(52:56):
I'm not authentic enough for you. That's crazy is to
worship that beforehand, and now anybody can be a celebrity.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
I also, anyone could be famous, you aren't.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Anybody can be famous you are.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
There is a differentiation.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
You are correct, babes, you are correct. There's also the
idea that.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
I have to do that now, like my personal life
is necessary in order for the authentication station to say yes,
you can continue working within comply merged.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
It's completely merged where it's like if you who are
we talking to recently about, Oh, I know the new
cast of SNL and that now they've they're bringing influencers
into the cast of CNL. And why is that. It's
because these people are writing skits, they are on TikTok

(53:51):
doing their little bits. They're funny, they have massive audiences.
So those suits know that when they hire this person
and they bring them into this cast and I has,
you know, massive name, it's a huge brand, it's very respected.
Knowing now that you're going to see your favorite TikToker
on SNL. I'm sure they're hoping we'll bring a younger

(54:11):
audience and refresh you know what they've maybe lost.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Over the years.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
I don't think it will. Personally.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
I think that maybe is the hope though, because it's
just you know what, I mean, and who knows if
it will or won't work out. I also have you know,
my doubt of our feels about it too. But I'm
just saying the world in that way has really shifted.
Influencers have incredible power, unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Also, I also want to add on to that, which
I was trying to say before kind of forgot, But
I grew up in the world of.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Gatekeepers.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Okay, so you couldn't get in the industry without super talent,
auditioning and making it through that first gate And obviously
there was some.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
You know, that's my buddy, let them in.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
And while gatekeeping isn't the best, it's still hep celebrity
and fame at a different level. Now there is no gatekeeping.
You can collect a certain amount of followers no matter
what you do, and now these big studios are like,
that's who I want, and sometimes it's not.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
A one to one.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Yeah. Well, the gatekeeping now is just the numbers of
followers exactly totally.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
How many LI.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Likes, especially dealing with like getting guests on the podcast.
It's literally like they go, they see numbers, getting sponsorships,
they go, they see numbers. You know, it's like just literally.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, that is the gatekeep now.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
So you know, like you said, I've seen a lot
of different and I know you have as well, especially
in the animation, And like, what in the world is
going to happen next? We go so fast in society AI,
we're fighting AI. Now the real people are going to
be fighting a computer for a job.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
That's crazy. What do you expect us to do?

Speaker 4 (55:51):
You have this whole world where you want us to
consume everything you want, But how are we supposed to
make the money to consume it?

Speaker 3 (55:56):
I have an idea for you, and it was brought
up by a guest on this podcast. I forget who
thought it was actor?

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Yeah, child acting supers and a voice actor yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yeah, but they said it was a woman though who
said this? I can't remember who it was. It doesn't matter.
They said, I wonder if there's going to be a
rise in live performances because you can't AI a love performance.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Well, it already happened. Look what's happening right now? Right
now as we speak? We went back to forgive my years.
I didn't really do well in history class. But before television,
there was the radio, the talkie podcasts. Podcasts are booming
because a I can't do it, you want us.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
It's just it's just repeating the cycle again.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
And that's also interesting too because I'm I'm sure this
is not what they meant in saying that, because when
you're saying live, I imagine you mean like with a
live audience to theater. But Netflix has started an entire
live branch. They have live shows. So they were doing
Tyler Henry. He was a live show. They had the
Poppet Balloon, which they took from YouTube. And so they

(57:08):
are trying to integrate an entire live that's wing or
of their of their Netflix.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Netflix has taken over. Let's not for you.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Netflix has taken oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
Do you remember when Netflix used to send you a
dvd ds?

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Did y'all steal from Netflix?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Oh? Never?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I never from Netflix, the like fifty bugs.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
Yeah I stole.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
So Mandy, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
I wasn't raving, Like, why are you banish?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
You can't do that.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
It's like not returning your vhs to it's.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
A blockbuster, guys, you've never done that. Books are the library,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
You just forgot about it always.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
But I had so many good DVDs.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Yeah, yeah, those were the good old days. Good, we're
in the good old days. Somebody going to say that
about right now. Always, somebody is going to go up
and say, these were the good old days.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I always say that these are the good old days.
All you need to do is add time. That's fair,
Just just add time, and this will be right now.
This will be the grandest freaking time ever. It's true
right today. Yeah. And I've always told that to my kids.
I said, don't don't forget, these are the good old days.
And and and I guess I must have said it

(58:25):
so much. My older daughter living, Yeah, you know what,
you know what I live what? Yeah, I know, dad,
these are the good old Let me guess these are
the good old days. I go, well, yeah, damn it
they are. You're twelve. You ain't gonna be twelve very.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Long, honey, time is going so fat, happy days.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Yeah. You guys think about we think think about having kids.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Oh yeah, we think about it.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
Yeah, it's we go back and forth.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
That was my answerment, Yeah, we think about it.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
She goes, oh, yeah, I've heard of kids.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
We know them, we know what they're like. It's it's
so like little people only smaller with runny noses and
like they're over they're so sticky when.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
You get a little older, go right to grandkids, your recommendation.
I can't. I can't recommend grandkids highly enough. Only have
the one and he beats the hell out of my kids.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
How many kids do you have?

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Well, I've got four daughters on my own. Wow and
uh and uh, and none of them are having kids.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
So okay, I think it's okay.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I guess you know.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
I still could.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I can't do squat about it.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
Yeah they could, yeah, just some some people have kids
a little later. I think that it will be our
late bloomers kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
We have a restic development.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
They're just millennials in general. You're millennial. Yeah, yeah, I
think we're just having kids older.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Yeah we can though, Yeah, like we want to live life.
We're still trying to get over the traumatic experience from
our childhood, and then we'll get into it because we
know how important it is to heal before you have.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
They keep throwing disasters at us, the economic crashes, and
then there's a lockdown and then some towers fall down,
and it's like whoa.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Whoa, whoa, Ye, yeah you have no time, and that's
what we kind of talk about, is what does this
world look like and do we want to bring a
kid into it? Right now? It just feels overwhelming. But
we're all going to end up being labeled geriatric. We're
all going to have jered pregancy because if you have
a baby passage of thirty five, you're geriatric.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I'm geriatric you very much, so they can go kiss me, Jerry,
you're geriatric pregnant.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah, that doesn't No, it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Doesn't sound I don't even look jeriatric.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
When you had your first kid, Jim.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
A long time ago, it was thirty twenty twenty seven
or man maybe twenty eightish.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
Yeah. See, nowadays that's like young.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Y yeah yeah, yeah, true, true, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Well you know, I want to get it out of
the way.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Smart.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Sometimes I feel that way that I wish I had
somebody younger, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I wish that. But then now that I'm married and
like that you had somebody. Yeah, No, I wish that
I had. I wish that I had a child younger.
That's what I meant. Sorry about that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
I'm actually very happy with you, babes. I don't know
anybody I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Take it personally in that sense. It just was a
funny way to say, like I wish I had somebody younger. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Keep me on my toes, but I do wish sometimes
that I had a kid when I was younger. But
then now looking at life, and we had somebody on
our podcast that said something really really inspirational. It's like
it's a lifestyle change. You have to be ready for
a different lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
It really changes the ship out of people.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Oh boy, especially the women who have to have it.
The hormones are different. I asked my mom.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I was like, Mom, have you always been a worry
ward She was like, nope, not until you popped out.
I never had any of these problems.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Okay, yeah, that gotcha.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
Well we have too many. We have too much room
to overthink it, you know what I mean, Because, yeah,
when you're in a gay relationship, like you were missing
something very necessary to a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
Listen, yeah, but we missing nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
We don't have sperm.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Oh, you just mean like hormonally, like testosterone make.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
It up to make a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Right. So, like you were just talking about a relationship.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
I think you were talking about you and your town
got together and did sm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Class.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
Now taking you from your teachers.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
See the oven as the sperm swims into the Yeah, see.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
His little tail wigle exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
Okay, opening credits of Look who's talking?

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Remember that that's what we're talking that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
and more. You'll feel the difference, So go ahead and

(01:03:38):
slash Jim Cummings podcast Do it Now.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
So I'm saying we're missing that. So we have all
of this extra time time to sit here and be
like we do we do we not? Whereas people who
have everything that they need to make a baby can
just kind of like, whoopsie, well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
What happened on accident?

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Yeah, we're gonna start trying now and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
And I think it's a good and a bad thing though,
because we can really set our life up to prepare
for that moment, and no one is the right time
for us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
But then at the same time, we.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Were taking too long because we're like, well not now,
We'll wait till next year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
When we saw that show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Yeah, so that's why God invented adoption. Nobody gets stretch marks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Yeah, I love that you said that you have no
stretch marks.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Because of that, you're missing you're missing the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Then I stopped and thought, wait, yeah, I kind of.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
I love that you adopted.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Why did you choose to adopt me? Ask?

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Uh, well, yeah, it was with my second wife and
we were trying. We were trying to say, yea, let's
let's have some kids, and it wasn't working. She couldn't
turned out she couldn't conceive, and and it was interesting
because we we adopted and uh one our first little

(01:04:56):
girl was was a black girl, and the second one
we thought her mother said well, we thought, well we
better get somebody kind of looks like it. And uh
the second mother was a white girl who thought she
was pregnant with a black guy. So we're going, oh,
well that'll be good. And then it comes to my
second one and they go, who's this little Caucasian little

(01:05:19):
thing here? What the hell you lied to us? Damn it,
you know what? But but she was I think we
did her test or genetic test, and she's ninety three
percent French, and she's and she's got this, and she's
got perfect skin. I mean she's like golden. I mean she.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Doesn't look like she's like my color peak stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Yeah, cute as a bud, beautiful. Yeah, So I mean
it worked out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
When you were growing up, did you consume Disney television
or was it like if you're so any, you were like,
you don't really watch.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
When I was younger, I was in the okay, let
me do the age brackets. Before I turned thirteen, I
wantatched a lot of Nick at Night, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network. Sure,
and then when I started working on Disney Channel, I
watched the L word.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
I was watching the L word. I was watching a
lot of movies. Rain Man was my.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
Movie, to be honest with you, I watched that all
the time. And then I was always a big drama
movie watcher. And then after I left Disney, I am honey,
I watch the spectrum I call bad movie Mondays, which
is all the movies I get two Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
And down and all of that. So yeah, I've never
really I didn't really watch Disney. I wasn't. I watched
a lot of Disney movies like Lion King was the
one and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
But you know Jim did the singing scar yeah, and
the Lion King.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Yeah, I was saying, be prepared. The villain's always get
the good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Song, such a good song.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Did you go to the Hollywood Bowl? I saw Jeremy
Iron say it, But did you get to go?

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
You know, I saw that and I was thinking, and
this is the part where I came in and I'm
listening to it, and he kind of flubbed it a
little bit. I mean, was that me? That just thought?

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Was?

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Was I tried to get good? I mean, that's too bad?

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Uh? So that whole show was interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
That was a weird. Yeah, that was an odd, odd situation,
but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
That was that the one where they had Northwest singing
sure was.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
I'm gonna be a mighty king moving on?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
So yeah, cool, a lot of that. So, yeah, that's
what I watched when I grew up.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
You know, I was watching Dick Van Dyke, and I
was watching Mary Tyler Moore, Jaxie and Welcome Back Carder
and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Were you pulling inspiration from those subconsciously.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I guess you know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
I love Lucy was on repeat all day that you
know again, where I'm watching sitcoms that started the genre
that you know created.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
I can see a lot of Lucy balling you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
The facial You're so expressive.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
I am so it gets me into trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
I talked.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
We had a conversation a little while ago, my wife
and I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
I was like, babes, I can stop a tick if
I notice it, I can stop. You're like, well, then
stop moving your face so damn.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Much, and I was like, I can't.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
Do that any other I just can't do my.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
It's worked for you, though, Hey, money money, money.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
That's right, that's right. That's what I always I've said
it before. I turned Monkey Hour into a career, and
it's if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Yeah. Yeah, I noticed you react to dark Wing Duck earlier.
Are you a dark Wing Duck connoisseewer?

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
I was a I was me and my brother dark
Wing Duck for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Excellent.

Speaker 7 (01:08:42):
That's amazing, Goslin. We should have had you on the
show if only I had known. But uh, yes, what's
that are we're bringing dark Wing back.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Why, yes, there is that rumor, so.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
I know that's how much? When? How much joy?

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
When?

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
Who brought me and take her to?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Well? That's good, I'm both of them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
How amazing to be so many people? Do you ever
forget who you are?

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
No, we don't have any I mean I don't have
any problems at all. Yeah, just ask George.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
And you also somewhat look like the professor from Jurassic Park.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
He does, Oh god, British? Yeah, yeah, good old what's
his name?

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
You could be next one?

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Well, I got that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
I know you're very much giving it today.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
There you are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
I think I was a little too intrepid there, but
but I can tell it back. Yeah. Oh god, it's
going to bug me. I have to look that up.
Somebody look that up out there? Yeah, put it in
the y because we're live, aren't we? What the hell anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Recording lives?

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Yeah, as far as you're not recording live, is it
even possible to do? Can you record not live?

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Well, you can record a recording.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
You can record a recording.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
Recording live while the recording is live.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Okay, now my.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
Brain hurts some meta stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Oh that's right, that's a word. Yes, it is, yet.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Now Are you a comic book person by any chance?
I used to be, Yeah, because d C went over
because uh, Marvel invented mutants and they're all superheroes now
and that that worked out so well that d C
had to invent meta Now they are meta humans, so

(01:10:58):
on the cutting edge.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Hair, I can't tell you something. There is no original idea.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
It's just copies and copies and copies, and it just
gets watered down every time.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
We went to Comic Con this year for the first time.
Fun Yeah, we.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Were there too, you were Why didn't tell us?

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Next time?

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
We went on Saturday and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
The Lawrence brothers.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Yeah, we got to walk around and see all the fun.
We didn't get to any get to go to any
of the panels or any of the talks like that,
which would have been exciting, but just seeing the crowd
and do you get mobbed?

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
I wore a mask.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
I wore a silver mask the whole entire time.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
It was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Wow, yes, probably, but had clothes on, not like his girl.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
That is that? Is that a pain?

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I mean just going to seven eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
You go, that's funny?

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
You know they never go to seven eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Aroon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
You know, it's not a pain, it's just the job, right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
I've been told that that's the that's the fallout of
the job. And in my brain, you know, I've made
sure that when someone comes up to me, I'm just
honest with them, meaning if I'm having a bad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Day, I'd be like, honey, I'm having a bad day.
Can you understand that with me?

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Please?

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Can I do anything other than put my face on?
And I think if they know how I feel, they're
not as mad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
There are some that don't care, and I begrudgingly take
the picture.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
But if you come up to me while I'm eating
or asking for something, I am very honest and I
try my best to give everyone what they need because
I also know that if I'm having a bad day
and I'm making your day right now, that means more
to me than my bad day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Yeah, and it helps you have a day that's not
so bad exactly, that's not that's not bad.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
At We had an amazing moment because we went to
the Jonas Brothers concert this last weekend and we're friends
with Franklin Jonas, who is the youngest Jonas, and he
was opening for his Brothers, and it was wonderful to
see him perform. He has a great voice, but who.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Songs out right now?

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
Just gentle press for a little promo for Franklin. But
what was interesting was that after Franklin set, we went
backstage again hung out, and then we came back out
and the house lights were up in the stadium and
as we're walking to our seats, someone clocks Raven. Someone
else clocks Raven. By the time we'd gotten too our seats.
I kid you not, the entire stadium was cheering for Raven.

(01:13:38):
And when you think about it, which I guess none
of us really did, they're one to one meaning like
a Jonas Brothers fan most likely is also a Disney fan,
which is also somebody who had watched Raven. They were
co workers for all tons of purposes. So this audience
was just thrill and it gave me chills actually point

(01:14:00):
because just hearing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
The Raven Raven.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
I mean, the excitement and enthusiasm, it was kind of electric.
But she handled that with you always handle everything with grace.
I mean, you're very, very good at that. But it
was really a moment of like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
WHOA, yeah, that's that's cool. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
I think it's also because I just don't walk around
with that air. You know, you'll have some celebrities that
walk around like look how important I am?

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Oh yeah, and I will you know, you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
See y'all meet them, And I walk.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Around two different ways. If I need to walk into
a room with that air, I know where it is
and I know where it lives in my body, and
I use it. And then sometimes I don't need to
walk into a room and be that way, Like I
don't have to be that way. I don't need it
for my.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Ego.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Ego, I have a big enough one already. I like
to go home and be chill.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
So, yeah, isn't it you guys have this shared experience
as we do. But isn't it interesting when you have
a guest on the podcast and like you meet them
for the first time that like energy, like what energy
are they going to bring? You know, like, because you
know of these people, but you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Know these people you know definitely and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
It changes you know some people we do know, but
it's always so fascinating to be like, you know, I
was even thinking about it today, you know, like what
what energy like do you bring as a person you know,
and like yours was very friendly and warm and welcoming,
so which is always are I am Southern?

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
It makes me sweat. I get nervous when we have
like these new people on and I'm kind of like,
oh my goodness, how are they going to react or
thing or whatnot? But yes, Raven is very sweet and southern.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Yeah, where are you from? Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
From Holana Atlanta? Yep, yep?

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
But I I I hear what you're Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
I love Atlanta. Is I hear what you're saying? What
you're saying?

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
And I definitely it's also because of the people that
I'm around, right, Like, you guys are super nice, You're
down to earth. I could feel it when we walked in.
And I will go into a room with someone who
thinks that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
They're can I cuss here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Thinks that they're the ship.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
And I sit there and I stand there, I put
on my mask and I go, sweetheart, thirty nine years
he started last year. I'm just gonna sit in the corner.
And then that's when I get the feedback of Raven
that's just a resting bitch face, like what's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Wrong with her?

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
I'm like what's wrong with me? Is you have someone
peacocking throughout this whole entire Yeah, it's and I don't
have to peacock boo boogook. Yeah, yeah, you know what
I mean. And I really cannot stand peak.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Have you ever done conventions where like you're signing autographs
and stuff or no, back in.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
The day when I was at the height of that,
So Raven, I've been asked to do some recently and
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I don't feel ready to do that yet.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
But I used to go to Walmart and sign for
five hours at a time like that was when that's
Raven was at the height. I would do concerts and
just stay there and sign all night long. I've done
my dues, I've paid them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Seventeen times over.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
And when I just see new fame come in and
I'm like, I'm really proud of you for acquiring all
of this celebrity and fame, but just remember that I'm
older than you, so you can shoo on me all
you want to, but I'm gonna still be here no
matter what, and you have at least thirty more years
to catch up. Yeah, you know, so I have I

(01:17:14):
have an ego.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I definitely have.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Any and well you should thank you. And it keeps you,
keeps you. You know, in perspective, I would think it does,
you know, because I mean look at look at you know,
there's this, that and the other thing. That's a bit
of a pain in the ass, but you don't want
to trade it. I mean, these are good problems.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
It's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
You know, these are the good old days. These are
the good old days. They really are.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
That's so true. No matter when you say it, that'll
be true.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
This is very true. That was the truth. That was
the truth. We're all been in the industry too long.
We know how to put a button on a button.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Yeah. What what's what's on your agenda? Do you have
a wish list still? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Career wise?

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Yes, I want to direct a movie that's in AMC.
I want to have a show that says created.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
By with our name on it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
I want to be on a I want to direct a.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
What is that word? I can?

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
I always mess up when we're in the meetings and
it's a like high potential or will trent a procedural
A procedure?

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
I want to direct a procedural how you say it?

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
Procedural?

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
I want to direct one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
And an epidural, No, a procedural.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Not an that's actually good, not an epidural.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
But they they rotate directors pretty frequently on procedurals, right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
They do, and they also bring back.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
It's rotating director. Yeah. Yeah, So I want to lawn
Order or something like that to direct order.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
I would love to direct a Will Trent Law and Order,
Gray's Anatomy, like all those, because I watched them consistently
and I just can see it in my head automatically.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
But I want to be a part of that. Nice yeah, yeah, easy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
And then I want to paint. I want to be
able to sell my paintings. And I want to see
one of my paintings up in a Hilton. I know
that's so randomly, well, but you know when you're walking
down the halls at a hotel and you just see this,
I'm like, I can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Put my painting up done, Pierre.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Yeah, yeah, I've thought about doing that too.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
I used to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
I used to make my living painting in New Orleans.
I of all things, I designed and painted Mardi Gras floats.
Oh isn't that I mean, that's so random. Yeah, oh,
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
I tell people they go, what what the hell? And
I go, well, yeah, I designed and painted Marti Grass,
and I did my own designs. And they used to
have designers and then people who would carry them out
like in the numbers. But I guess it was rare
that I that someone did both, and I got to
do both. I did for about three years. It was

(01:20:08):
a ball and it was I don't know. Of course,
you hit the ground running, but there were always certain
weird little things that I knew that I wanted to do.
When I mean, when I was like five or six
years old, I wanted to make my living singing. I
wanted to make my living playing drums, and of course
then I did both. And then I wanted to make

(01:20:31):
my living drawing or painting something, you know, and so
and then when I was five, I saw my blank
on TV. Excuse me, and my dad goes, you see
this bastard. I go, yeah, he goes, he's the one
who does all those voices and like bugs Bunny, and

(01:20:51):
oh he go Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck and you know,
Tazmane and Devin and I go yeah, yeah, and I said, man,
he doesn't have to stand in the corner for being weird.
I'll be him, and so i'm him, except that I'm
not as good. But I'm hanging in there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
I'm not okay, You're okay.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Yeah, I hung in there.

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
You've done well with making Monkey our career for Yeah,
that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Monkey Hour is exactly what I did.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
So you've done some voice acting when I'm sorry I
didn't do enough research. But when you did your voice acting,
did you put on a voice or is it you?

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I did not put on a voice. I always tried.
I always tried a.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Good one, the one you're doing there, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
I work really hard on it. No, I have done
voice acting.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
I've done some movies and I've done some cartoon TV's,
and when I walk into it, it's always just my voice,
and then one is like just.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
All right and here we are and this is it.
That's like the only thing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
But I pride myself in what voices I can do,
and I think I really want to be a part
of a cartoon, so you can give me the green
light if I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
To kidd Hello.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
I was just wondering if maybe I could be on
your show and do some cool things here and there,
because sometimes I don't really know what I'm supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I do kids like that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Well, you know, you sound like you sound like, oh,
my goodness, who played Tommy Pickles?

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Yes, oh yeah, not.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Jake.

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
I'm surprised you guys haven't had her on the pod.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
Okay, oh your points are lost?

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
Know Christopher Nolan and you don't know her name.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
John, She's such a basic.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
Yeah, she's great.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Yeah, I really like doing kid voices like that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
With me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
It's how you talk to her dog and so cute.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
And then I did a I did an episode of
that So Raven where I played multiple characters.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
I played a man, I played a baby, remember, yeah, best.
And that's when I really was like, oh this is fun.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Delroy Delroy, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
Please be Delroy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Okay, I can't think of del Roy this.

Speaker 5 (01:23:16):
This is my favorite episode.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
That's a right then, not going to visit up it?
Just down here, man, None of the way, isn't I
need a don't you go around?

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
You don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
He doesn't really speak English, doesn't its This Southern black.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Man was like, you take him of roof of boat.
Now you better go down there. And figure it out. Now,
I'm not playing with you. I'm not playing with you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
And that was good.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
I like playing Delroy because he's this short, fat man
and so he'll walk up the stairs like, don't you
do what your first?

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
Yeah, it's just so funny that when she did that
episode last time, there was a callback to Delroy being
in an episode of Raven's Home. Oh my gosh, coming
to visit her on set in this makeup too is
also just so hilarious. She was in prosthetics and the
whole thing and the suit and the belly and oh
my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
join the tuned In family today at Patreon dot com

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slash Jim Cummings podcast Do it Now?

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
Do you guys want to know something funny about me?
Fun fact I'm not a voice actor at all, never
done any of that. But there is a Ashley Mary
Kate movie called Switching Goals and I was called in
to be their voices. I looped for them because they,

(01:25:05):
I don't know, we're doing other things that Mary Kate
and actually do. And so that was the only time
in my life that my voice was recorded in that way.
And I was saying things like, hey, throw me the
soccer ball, kick it over here, Hey, come on, having
to do you know that type.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Of stuff, which is even crazier switching goals.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
I do too, But but can I tell the whole
it's crazy because she went to school with them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Too, I did.

Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
Yeah, yeah, did they know that they hired you? No,
they didn't hire me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
No, I know they didn't be No, no, what is it
called the propobial?

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
They no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
It suffering?

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
I know.

Speaker 6 (01:25:45):
Sorry, understood, understood?

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
No, Okay, that was something because clearly it was definitely
like my father had something to do with something or
a friend of his. It was because it was it
was I think rich Heller was somehow connected to that.
Who's a friend of my dad's. And then I came
in just because they needed a young girl.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
To that's funny, I call that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
Yeah, so I'm me too, in the good way.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Actually, we actually.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
Have a show that we're currently pitching that is a
beautifully animated animated series. Yeah, and we're both voicing characters
in that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
The mothers in one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
But on our tones page there's a win Winnie the
Poop there is. Yeah, you did a lot for us.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Oh gosh, I'll take that. Yeah that's good. Thanks for
telling me that. Oh that's sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
If you need any voices, Oh, you're you're, you're, you're.
You have a face for radio.

Speaker 4 (01:26:51):
I told your voice is crazy, Like have you always
had that deep voice?

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Yeah? Pretty much?

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Really like you were just twelve years old, was.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Yeah, people wud always make fun of my voice like
high school? Yeah, yeah, my dad has a really deep
voice too, But yeah, I always had like this deep voice.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
And can you do not tricks? But do you have
range with it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
And can you flip your voice up and downs?

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
I don't know. I have like a hard time going high,
like no, I can't it like starts to crack.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
How low can you go?

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
How low can I go? That's probably like the lowest
I can go. That's that's the deepest. I'm trying to
go deeper.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
That's crazy, deeper.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
I can go?

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
That's crazy, that's really low. That's really low octave.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Yeah, pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
I will tell you a trick, the voice trick. Yes.
And if you want to get a fake deep voice
and you don't really have one, I call it the
slow motion voice. You take the tip of your tongue
and stuff it up underneath the back of your.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Okay, right there, right right right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Child, And it's kind of like it's slow. It sounds
like you're it's slow motion. Like this is talking in
regular just regular speech, and this is.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
The way it is.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
No, where are you sounding optimus prime prime?

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
That's that does. Yeah, yeah, it really does.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Peter and that. Yeah, Peter's a good Buddy's.

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
Waiting for you to be like I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Have.

Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
It's just not like I went to the dentist auto box.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
It reminds me of that scene in Old School when
he gets the dart in his neck. Well feral that. Yeah,
go to do in your neck? Get out of here.
You're crazy. I like you, but you're crazy man.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
So funny. Oh my goodness, good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Times, goody, good times, and the good times are walk
You need to do that? What would you what did
you call it to? Two star Mondays?

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Yeah, madly Mondays bad movie Mondays.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
You need to do like a segment on your podcast
if you don't already, I might do it on my
tiktokd movie Mondays and do like a little review of
like these especially.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
That makes me so happy that you said that, because
then I can watch more movies because.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
It's her content. So I'm going to do it, babes,
can I have a segment on this podcast. I'm going
to do it on my TikTok.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
I mean we watched them together. We could totally do that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
I got them totally.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Jason and the Argonauts, that would be a good one.
Jason And when I was a little kid and I
thought it was the coolest, coolest movie ever. And it
was Ray Harry Housen with that stop action dragons and
big sort of Clay maate I think he invented clay
mation nineteen sixty three film. Yeah, and it's a sad movie.

(01:29:57):
Is just awful.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
It's horrible. I can tell my the pictures. It's but
it also is like kind of kitchy cool.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Oh yeah, oh I want to see it's very much. Yeah, yeah,
it's I feel maybe it's a good bear and pizza movie.

Speaker 5 (01:30:12):
Okay, look at the poster.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
See I like stuff like that, I'm definitely gonna do it.
There was one I can never remember the name of it,
but it matted such critical acclaim. It's like this Jesus
character that's walking through a big tunnel covered in rainbows
and then he goes down to Hell and he's It's
I can't even explain to you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
It's horrible, but also like artistic genius, you know, it's
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:38):
The one of our bad movie Mondays was honestly it was.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
It was so bad.

Speaker 5 (01:30:45):
It's not even funny bad. I mean, this was about
like I did.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
It was just bad.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
It was just bad.

Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
I mean, like the production value, the script was horrific.
This guy was like a struggling dancer who had a
wife and a child, but then just just ever that
he was actually gay and he was like having this relationship.
But also it was then being like played out through dance.
So it was just like the most awkward thing to
observe as an audience member, and it was just like,

(01:31:12):
these people have no clue what they're doing at all.
It's not like what was the one that James Franco
did the Disaster Artist that was like that became Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
They'd still do that. They do like a monthly screening.
I think, yeah at the theater in Glendale.

Speaker 5 (01:31:29):
And everyone knows every line, yes exactly. It's become such
a classically.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
I was looking for the one with Jonathan Reese Myers
that he did that you obviously he did after he
like got back up on the horse or something like that,
and he had a robot as a female.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
My wife was like, why are you watching this?

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
And oh that was so bad, like AI robot sex
and like then she she.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Was super young. You could tell it was like awkward
and yeah, just I love those me It's what not
to do? You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Yeah, you're learning, Yes, exactly, you learn the contract.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
That's a learning process. Okay, well I am being to
do that again.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
Exactly exactly, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Tell from a script you usually tell. Yeah, it's hard
to mess up a good script.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
Yeah, I mean you can. It's also just can't get
good scripts nowadays. I think that's part of it. We
bad movie Monday was born out of us kind of
banging our heads against the wall because we're like, why
how do these things get made? Like what is what's happening?

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
And what don't we know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Yeah, it's something you talked about earlier, like people just
want to be in the industry so bad, Like there's
you know, I've met people who are who are billionaires
who just want to fund a movie just so they
can say they've produced a movie and hang out with
movie stars. And we've talked about this like in you
know how they bring all these celebrity on camera talent
to voice acting for movies. Right. Yes, the reason behind it,

(01:33:00):
I truly believe, is because those producers just want to
hang out with a movie star. They don't care about
the performance, like they don't you're an actor, you'll do
good enough, you know. They don't understand the craft and
how it changes. They're just like, I want to hang
out with you know, Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
Blow or you know exactly, and they know that that
name brings it in even though the talent is not
the same as when you get back into those original
things and you're like, I don't know who that voice is,
but I know it's that character my biggest.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Right And I say it all the time on this podcast,
and I'm gonna say it again. It's Vin Diesel as Groot.
Why oh, I did you need Vin Diesel as group
because nobody saw that Diesel to say I am groot.
Nobody was it? No, that was it?

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
That isn't that's all I ever said.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
You could have made a whole new person's life with
that three words. The new actor says, I am grow.
And it's an massive franchise.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
I'll tell you exactly what I wouldn't have been in
the movie good No, but you know why.

Speaker 5 (01:33:57):
I'll tell you why. Vin Diesel in the Fast the
Furious franchise is massive. It's massive, billions and billions of
dollars for.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
You, one of the biggest franchises in.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
So Universal will always put him wherever he may or
may not want to go. He has young kids. It
is very, very possible that they're like, we're just going
to do this because it's a billion dollar franchise and
it's no sweat off, and that is studio. But what
that is, though, is the politics of this this business.
I hear what you're saying. Though. It's frustrating and it

(01:34:29):
could make it something for somebody else and it's pointless
and whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Give me that like little role, like that's so little
and so easy, but like I don't know it just
strikes me as greedy. It strikes me as greedy.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
It does feel greedy. Yeah, that's exactly what it does.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
It's like I need to be this or like and
I feel like I'll just go on a rent right
now because I'm in it. But I feel like that's
like a hard thing for a lot of this generation
of actors getting into the acting business, getting into show
business is a lot of these directors aren't going away
like they're staying like I'm Harrison Ford, We're going to

(01:35:04):
do another one, like we're yeah that and their kids
and their kids.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Their kids are coming in and their.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Kids absolutely, which I will say, there's some NEPO babies
that are actually really talented. Yeah, like uh, Kurt Russellson,
he's a great actor.

Speaker 5 (01:35:20):
Is that from Kane?

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
Yeah, yeah, no, no.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
No, no, no, that's no, that's so yeah, that's you know Russell.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Kurt Russell is the names Wyatt.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
I believe it's Kurt Russell's son. He was in His
name is Wyatt Russell.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Yeah, Wyatt Russell. He was in twenty two Jump Street.
You remember twenty two Jump Street. He was like the
buddy football player, long hair. He was in Black Mirror
a whole bunch of other really good He's a great actor.

Speaker 5 (01:35:51):
You know. Maud Apatow just directed her first film, she
wrote and directed it, and Leslie Man, her mom, is
in it, and Phillip Seymour Hoffman's son is in it.
And the buzz that he is getting, people are basically
saying that he's going to win Oscars, like he is
just I'm forgetting his name.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Well, if he has a sliver of his dad's talent.

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
That's exactly. And I saw a quick clip of him
on the Today Show and of course everyone is like,
you know, did you always know you wanted to do this?
And he was very much like, no, it just kind
of happened, and you know, I'm doing it for the
right now and we'll see where it lands. But everyone
is just people that have that attitude sore. Yeah, I think,
but you know when you are Philip Seymour Hoffman's child,

(01:36:35):
and clearly now he's extremely talented and he probably knows that,
so he has the quiet confidence. But I was just
thinking about the NEPO element of they are the next
generation to have Matt Avato writing and directing. You have
Philip Seymour Hoffman starring I've seen about Zoe Kravitz the
other day her success.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
I'm not a big hater on nepple babies. I feel
like in any avenue of humanity, you know, just because
you're famous and you get these opportunities, but like nobody
criticizes like a teenager going to work at their dad's
coffee shop, or like hard going to work for your
family business. Like I hate the notion of like don't

(01:37:13):
work with family. I get it, it doesn't work for
some people. But like you look around and like all
the richest people work with their family.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Like the keep it in the family.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
They all like they don't go out and hire other
people like they work with their family, like the ends,
and like you know these massive corporations, Like why would
it be any different in show business? Like to me,
it's just the same thing of human nature. It's like
you're hiring your offspring. You know, they're working on the farm.
We have eight kids, you know they're bailing. Hey, Like
it happens everywhere. Like my dad was a fisherman like

(01:37:44):
his father before him.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
You know, like yeas so true, so true, but.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Then you get shipped for it because you're on TV.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
Yeah, because there is so much more invisible. Yeah, that's
the thing is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
There's other people that want that position, so yeah, so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Yeah, we're gonna have influencers soon. Think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
I don't want to. I just can't.

Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
They've already started, They've already started, to be honest, because
when you think about the mommy influencers or the Mommy
lifestyle vloggers, but so many of their so many of
their children are actually the appeal and because they're super
cute in it. So it's like they've already started.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
I know one girl she does that with her kids,
and I swear it's like she just keeps pumping out kids,
so she has some young ones like to just keep
keep putting out there.

Speaker 5 (01:38:31):
That's unfortunate, that's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
Yeah, the Octo mom, the.

Speaker 5 (01:38:36):
Original Natasha, like the original Octo.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
So what what's uh? Do you? What? What is your next?
Is there anything shaken right now that we should be
bragging about? Well, I mean because the whole world watches.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Oh well, thank you the whole world.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
Yeah, we're just really really proud of the podcast time
with Raven and Miranda on YouTube and anywhere you get
your podcasts from. Like I said, we are constantly out
in the industry pitching things, and hopefully we can come
back to you and we have sold something. But as
of right now, we're just crafting the mission statement and
have a few new have a few movies in the

(01:39:17):
queue that I can't talk.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
About that we're both a part of.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
But yeah, we're we're gonna stay consistent in the industry
as best as we can. Knowing that we are a lesbian,
mixed race couple. I think it's really important that we
continue to craft stories that help our community, sure, and
others as well, not just ours. But you know, just
because we look and are like this doesn't mean that

(01:39:40):
our story can't connect to something that doesn't look like us.
And I think that's really important for us to keep
out there and keep pushing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
Yeah, well, Shakespeare did it good enough for him.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
Good enough shape. We can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
Right, amen?

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Amen, My parents would love that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you, thank you, Thank.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
You for having that conversation. Really enjoyed it. It was
nice meeting you both too, And we hope you guys
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(01:40:44):
And I believe that just about does it. I'm producer,
Chris the Legend, mister Jim Cummings. Thank you so much, yo. Yeah,
Raven Simone, Miranda may Day, thank you so much for.

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
Being here, Thanks for having us.

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Thank you

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