Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:01):
What's up everybody. Welcome back toUnderstanding Propaganda once again. I have the
awesome Charlie Robinson with me today.Welcome Charlie. Thank you for having me.
Yes, most certainly so. Ijust had to do a show because
I just can't believe the depths towhich the wartime propaganda has sunk in regards
(00:26):
to Ukraine and Russia. So Ithought we could talk about a couple of
articles that drew my attention. Butbefore I get into any articles, I
found this on Archives dot gov.And this is in reference to an online
exhibit called Powers of Persuasion, andit's basically just an exhibit on all the
(00:51):
past wartime propaganda posters. But Ifound that the introduction paragraph was pretty fitting,
so let me go ahead and readthis. Guns, tanks, and
bombs were the principal weapons of WorldWar Two, but there were other and
more subtle forms of warfare as well. Words, posters, and films waged
a constant battle for the hearts andminds of the American citizenry. Just as
(01:14):
surely as military weapons engage the enemy, Persuading the American public became a wartime
industry almost as important as the manufacturingof bullets and planes. The government launched
an aggressive propaganda campaign with clearly articulatedgoals and strategies to galvanize public support,
and it recruited some of the nation'sforemost intellectuals, artists, and filmmakers to
(01:36):
wage the war on that front.And it's pretty telling because this is a
United States government website basically admitting that, yeah, our lies are equally as
important as the bullets that are onthe battlefield. Well, I just went
to I was in New Orleans fora wedding and we went to the World
(01:57):
War Two Museum and they've got allthe document They've got the propaganda there.
They've got all the posters and allthat stuff, you know, where they've
got the Japanese looking like monkeys andthings like that. They had all that
stuff, you know. So it'slike that propaganda is a huge component of
this. It's like, you know, you gotta before you win the hearts
(02:19):
and minds, you know, yougot you got to soften them up a
little bit with some with some lies, some deception, and especially and if
you're in and you got to getthe home country like us, we weren't
really there was no battlefield here,but not necessarily, I mean not less
count Pearl Harbor, but um,there was no battlefield. So you just
have to get everybody to be enthusiasticsupporters. So you demonize the other side
(02:42):
and make them seem less human,and then you you tell everybody that it's
their threat to our way of life, which is you know, oh no,
we can't have that, and thenyou lie to them, and then
you scare them, and you keepdoing that for a long long time,
and then eventually everyone will be supportiveof the war, and then anybody that's
not supportive of the war. Youdon't actually have to do anything if you're
(03:06):
the government. You just let themasses work on them, you know,
let them shame them and force themand spit on them and all these crazy
things. You know, you're antiwar, you're opening us up to a
potential attacks because you're not enthusiastically supportingthis. So it's like the government just
has to get the ball rolling,then the people will do the rest,
which is wild. That's the wildpart. You know. I read some
(03:29):
of these articles that journalists working forlike the Washington Post, and you know,
all these major publications just coming upwith just the most insane bullshit,
And it's like you can say toyourself, yeah, I know that these
are all CIA filtered at minimum,but it really is just hard to swallow
when you're reading absolute nonsense. Thesad thing is like, even if it's
(03:51):
nonsense and gets debunked later, itgets debunked in a small retraction paragraph that
no whever. All they have todo is get the head line in front
of people once. Yeah, that'sit, and it's sticks. And when
you read the quote, you know, you know, you know, this
is what we're saying. We're sayingthis, this incredible thing. And then
(04:12):
you and then that you look forthe source and it's sources close to the
president's thinking said, and you go, what what does that mean? I
mean that means sources close to thepresidents? They did the president say it,
No, it's just people that havean idea what he would say if
he were asked. It's like,okay, that's nothing. That's the CIA.
(04:36):
When you know people, you know, people familiar with the situation under
you know, undisclosed intelligence officers said, and you're like, that's nothing that
means, But like you said,the headline does the work. Most people,
(04:56):
you know, we're so dumbed downnow and have such short attention sp
It's like headline, maybe, thefirst paragraph maybe, and then everything else
is That's why it was. Whatwas so disappointing to me was that that
the very first, the very firstCOVID major article that came out about the
number of people that were dead fromCOVID was August of twenty twenty, and
(05:20):
it ran a headline that said onehundred and sixty nine thousand Americans dead from
COVID. And if you read thewhole article and you got you'd get to
the bottom paragraph it said of thoseone hundred and sixty nine thousand, six
percent died from COVID and ninety fourand the rest died with COVID and on
(05:45):
average two point six code morbidity conditions. So if you read the full article,
it debunked the headline and so andbut nobody read the full article except
me and I don't know you anda few other people, and so we
were going, oh, oh yeah, no, it's that number, that
one sixty nine, one hundred andsixty nine thousand, that's nonsense. That
doesn't mean anything. It's it's reallysix percent of one hundred and sixty nine.
(06:08):
So it's it's ten thousand people.I mean, that's really what they
admitted, but the way they framedthat it didn't you know, it told
a different story. But if youread the full article then you would see
that the headline didn't match the story. But of course can't can't be expected
to read articles all the way tothe end. Yeah, with with COVID,
(06:30):
like I had. Honestly, Ihad just gotten through like a couple
of years of research on propaganda andthe OSS and World War Two, right,
this was and I was maybe ayear into my Kennedy research when this
happened. And I'm like, waita minute. I go back and I
checked the old documents. I'm like, this is straight from the old fucking
(06:54):
script. You were sending me thesix levels of the six steps of propaganda,
Like you know, you're saying,oh, here here, here's this
is from the book, and you'relooking at it and you're going, oh,
this is like a step by stepmanual of what they're doing. You
could just you go yeah, yeah, yeah. So well it was just
it was luck really and uh so, uh. The first thing that really
(07:18):
caught my attention was that the numbersof dead we're growing astronomically, like exponentially
for sure from day one, eventhough they declared pandemic before there were any
deaths in the world. Um,So I started to look at the number
of deaths attributed to COVID between Marchand May of the of twenty twenty,
(07:42):
and what I found was that onsome days COVID was attributed to like eighty
percent of the deaths in that dayof everyone in the country. And I'm
like, fuck the fuck off.No, So it was really easy just
looking at the early numbers. Youknow that it was a total fucking sham.
(08:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but aperfect you know, a perfect opportunity
for them to roll in global communismon the back of a of a of
the flu. Good for them theyfigured out. You know, it's kind
of wild because it currently seems asthough and I know we're getting kind of
off topic, but that's that's okay. Um, the whole COVID thing is
(08:26):
falling apart like so rapidly. It'skind of unfucking believable. I'm really surprised
that we're actually getting to the pointthat we're at and it isn't being handled
in the way like a Kennedy assassination. Would like fifty years later, people
are finally getting to the point andnobody really gives a fuck anymore, right,
Like, there's nothing gonna happen,nothing's gonna change. But with COVID,
(08:46):
it seems like there's people still herein the mix who could go to
fucking prison, who could at leastlose their jobs, like a man.
So I've been following the polls,and something happened the past week or two,
but the Republicans across the board haveseemed to have taken the lead in
all the polls for House and Senate, and so I have my fingers crossed
the Democrats aren't going to stee allthe election again this time. H So
(09:09):
do you imagine, though, couldyou imagine like what the response would be.
Let's let's just play this out fora second. Um, It's the
day after the election and John Fettermanwins, and everybody knows it's been rigged,
right because nobody in their right mindwould vote for that big clown,
And but he wins, right,and they don't and let's just say they
(09:31):
don't say they make it like fiftyseven percent, right, not even like
a little bit he wins by quitea bit. What do the people do,
like if they want to start alegitimate riot, they're talking real pitchforks
and real torches, real pitchforks andtorches. Yeah, and they do they
(09:54):
do something I'm not talking about,like some contested race that you know,
I'm not talking about the herschel Walkerstuff going on in Georgia where it's like
dirty tricks and they're you know,neck and neck and they're fighting. I
mean, a guy that can't talkand is un you know, just just
(10:15):
a total catastrophe. It's like Fettermanwho went up there and had that debate
against everybody's better judgment and uh andlooked like a like he had been smoking
crack before he went out on stage. You know, I know he had
a stroke. But you know what, I don't care. You you signed
(10:37):
up for this, you know what'sgoing on if you sign up for this,
I don't care if you have astroke. I don't care. Your
your fair your fair game. Andhis mental capacity is worth talking about,
and it's on the table, butwhat if they steal it? And and
by a lot, and it's soobvious and it's almost like what are you
gonna do about it. Well,this is Pennsylvania. This is one of
(10:58):
the three states that was highlighted mand Deniestra Suz's film Two Thousand Mules.
You know, so we know there'sa already an infrastructure in place for stealing
elections. Yeah, the Feederman debatemanlike that was hard to watch. That
was hard to watch. And Ididn't realize the guy didn't pay taxes sixty
seven times, so see he kindof like that about him. He didn't
(11:24):
pay taxes sixty seven times. SoI think I got some room. I
got some wiggle room here. Ithink you're I mean, I do find
it difficult for me to root forhis opponent, though, who is a
World Economic Forum young global leader.So I'm not like cheerleading for doctor oz
In any way. I just thinkthat it is, uh, it's it's
quite embarrassing that that. I thinkit says more about the Democratic Party.
(11:48):
And I, you know, youand I were not on the red team
or the Blue team, obviously,but but but think about the Democratic Party.
They took a look at this guywho can't string a sentence together,
has no business being there, hasn'tnever had a job in his life,
lived at home with his parents.Is objectively a mouth breathing moron of the
highest order and looks like lurch.And you looked at that guy and you
(12:09):
said, this is the right guyfor the job. This is a really
important state that we've got to winthis And you said, that's the best
guy. Like, what does thatsay about there? They're you know,
they're their abilities. You know theyran him out there. He didn't just
he wasn't like a man of thepeople who, like everybody knows Federman.
(12:33):
He's doing great work. He's beendoing great work forever. We have no
choice but to run him. He'skind of odd. But no, no,
no, no, he's done jackshit and you and you still pick
You could have picked one of thoseknotted off fentonel users down on Kensington Street
and pull him out of from shittingon the sidewalk and dressed him up in
a suit and put him out there. And that person would have done a
better job than John Fetterman. Andyet the Democrats thought that that was the
(12:56):
guy to get the job done.That is crazy to me. Yes,
and the and the Fetterman uh campaignhas indirectly been responsible for a new piece
of terminology introduced into the consciousness,and that is you want to fill in
the blank here for me, Charlie, was it um? I was gonna
(13:22):
say hello, good night, Ohhello, good night everybody. Now,
that would have been rad if hejust walked up and hello, good night
everybody interested, walked off the stageknowing that he was gonna get creamed,
you know, like it'd be likeRevenge of the Nerds when they at the
end when they're in the big uhinterinterfraternity battle and all the nerds have like
(13:43):
the the tug of war and theyjust let go all at the same time.
You know, that would be theequivalent of that. Doctors is gonna
just demolish me, Hi, goodnight everybody and then just walked off.
That would be great, But instead, You're right, we got the term
able, which is, how dareyou, with your perfect working brain and
(14:07):
your ability for clear speech, howdare you come out here and criticize a
man who's had a stroke. Hey, you fucking ran him. You you
guys decided he was going to beyour candidate. Whatever goes, so whatever,
running before the stroke. Didn't hehave the stroke like during the campaign,
Yeah, he had the stroke rightbefore like the primaries and they're like,
(14:28):
mah, he's good to go,Like, but listen, he's going
to be brain dead. It'll belike everyone else that when we have is
brain dead too. What's the difference, you know, Like, yeah,
but it's gonna be super noticeable.Well, well, you know, we'll
just run. We'll just throw alot of money at him. We'll have
I just read that Joe Biden andKamala Harris are on their way to go
start campaigning for him. That'll begood. Three people that can't speak great.
(14:54):
Have you ever seen him before thestroke? I mean I haven't seen
any videos of him when he's whenhe was normal. I did hear him.
I did hear him speak before thestroke. And he did speak like
a normal guy. He did notsound like um like he sounds now.
But he still sounded like a dummy. Well all you still, I mean,
all the same flaws are still there. Lived at home with his parents,
(15:15):
never had job, bought it,you know, got his house from
his sister for one dollar transfer,didn't pay his taxes, didn't really do
anything. Chased a black guy downthe street with a shotgun because he thought
he was doing something. He wasjust a jogger. You know, all
those things are still applicable. Um, it's just that now he sounds as
dumb as he is, and soit's more like a visual atch of where
(15:39):
he was intellectually beforehand. So it'sunreal. Enjoy that, Pennsylvania. You
either get a World Economic Forum guy, or you get this gigantic dipshit congratulations
that that's the best the state cancan do. Like, I was born
in New York, New York City, and I lived there with my parents
(16:02):
in Brooklyn until I was about nineyears old before going to Florida for thirty
five years. And I just can'tenvision ever living in the East Coast in
that area from like Washington, dC. All the way up through like
New England. Is just the entireidea of living there is just repulsive to
(16:22):
me. I was in Philly inApril, and it was the first time
I had been there, and Igotta be honest with you, Like where
I was, like where we weregoing and the places we were seeing.
If Philly was Philly was great,but I also didn't go down to like
the shooting galleries and everything. Ididn't go down to the places where where
(16:44):
everybody is like halfway through, notin out, you know, but that
I did see. I did seesome some insanity, but I gotta I
gotta say, like, in theinterest of being fair to Philadelphia, it
was so clean. And I knowpeople that live there here, they're gonna
go, where the fuck were you? Was so clean? But I remember
connenting to to my family I was, I said, I can't believe how
(17:07):
clean it is here. I wasexpecting it to be way dirtier, and
it just was like, for whateverreason clean when I was there. And
uh, and you know, soI don't know, but but again I
wouldn't It would be my preference notto to live there. I as certainly
wouldn't want to live in New YorkCity right now, um or ever.
(17:29):
And speaking on election shenanigans, didyou see that the news in Phoenix had
a little pop up on the screenshowing that the incumbent won over Kari Lake
for governor. Yeah, old KatieHobbs, who's who's trailing in every poll
because she's awoke tard, who refusesto debate carry Lake because her ideas are
(17:52):
stupid, and wolf stand up toscrutiny. She's now magically ahead, according
to the Listen, the media isthe enemy of humanity. You and I
talk about this like on a likea weekly basis. At least this is
there. There's nothing new. Thesethese people are evil. They want specific
people to win elections, they wantspecific teams to win wars, they want
(18:17):
these things to happen. And thenthey just set about reshaping your vision of
reality by telling you that the thatthe election has already been you know,
the winner's already been decided, andwe're going to show these little snippets and
they say, oh, it wasa it was a glitch by the Associated
Press. Really, the Associated Presshas access to your feed right now.
(18:38):
They can just go in and likemake things pop up on your television news
show. Really, that sounds likea lie to me. You know,
that reminds me, what do youthink happen with Was it the New York
Post? Did you see some ofthose headlines? Yeah, yeah, they're
(18:59):
like we got I was like,wait a second, whoever, this guys
who hacked you should put on thepayroll. This is great. This guy
was in there like just ripping people. He was able to get into their
actual websites and their Twitter. SoI have a feeling it was somewhat of
an inside job because man to beable to gain access to both somebody's information,
(19:22):
somebody had somebody was compromised for sure. Oh yeah, so it was
somebody's last day to you know thisweek was gonna was there last week and
they're like, oh, oh,didn't deny my vacation requests, will you?
Oh? Motherfucker, Okay, I'llshow you all right, on my
way out, I'll tell you what. On my way out, there's gonna
be fireworks. I'm just saying thatwas some of the best fake news ever
(19:47):
relevant stuff the mainstream media has putout in a long time. Yes,
yes, So I pulled up acouple. Um. I went to Google
because I want to pull up somearticles in reference to some more fake news
put out by the State Department,and so, um, first I looked
up you know, just google Russialosing war and you will find a treasure
(20:11):
trove of articles, you know,as recent as this week. Um,
this one where is it bombing tolose? Why airpower cannot salvage Russia's doomed
war in Ukraine? I mean thisis from a week ago, Um,
from Foreign Affairs. Um, it'sit's a Joe, it's a joke.
Okay, it is such a joke. The idea that Russia is going to
(20:33):
lose the war to the poorest countryin Europe is just it's it's unfucking believable,
and they just keep pushing the samenarrative. You know, I watched
Gonzalo Lira's YouTube videos. He's ajourney He's a Chilean journalist who who's in
Ukraine and has been for a while, and he is immune to government propaganda
(20:57):
bullshit. He it infuriates him tothe point where he just he's got these
great videos where he's just talking aboutAmerican propaganda and how stupid it is,
and he's he's out there saying theUkrainians have lost one hundred thousand troops.
They're they're done. There's no,there's no, there's no. He goes,
(21:18):
the problem is that the list istrying to convince everybody that the way
you measure a war is on territorytaken and lost. And he said that's
not the case. He goes,Russia could go move forward and take additional
territory if they wanted to, butthey've pulled back into a different position because
they don't have to, and theyand they're just slaughtering the Ukrainians too,
so they don't need to go forwardanymore. The Ukrainians are coming to them
(21:41):
and getting slaughtered. So there,you know, he made a good point
about that, where it's like,you know, just just because the Russian
troops pulled back recently in the recentmonths and gave up a little bit of
ground, that doesn't mean that they'relosing anything. It just means that they're
being more strategic and in fact,may even be baiting the Ukrainians to come
(22:03):
into a shooting gallery where they're goingto get uh, you know, like
like what happened to the United Statesand in those Pacific islands during World War
Two, where they would be likelured into these the you know, they'd
take it. They'd show up onIwajima or or Tinyan or some one of
these little obscure islands out in themiddle of nowhere, and they go,
(22:26):
where are all the Japanese And they'renot here. They're supposed to be here,
they're not here. Well, they'reall hiding someplace and they want you
to go find him. And thenwhen you get right to where they want,
then they open up on you andit's like a it's like a you're
sort of trap. So he wastalking about how like the Ukraine Russia stuff
like he was like, oh,you read the headlines from the West.
It's like Ukraine is is destroying Russiaand everything. He's like they're out of
(22:49):
troops. Like he's like, they'rebringing in like the JV team. So
so this, this is this warwill be over pretty soon unless and unless
unless there's a false flag that they'retalking about. Yes. Um, so
the Russians come forward and they sayUkraine is going to build a dirty bomb,
(23:11):
and this is how they're going tobuild it, this is how they're
going to deliver it. This iswhere they're going to deliver it too,
this is who's working on it.Please go investigate this. Yeah, if
you think it'd be in The defenseminister called multiple countries that the guy I
guess would in his position at theother countries. The Russian Defense minister called
(23:32):
the French defense minister and some otherones on the weekend, one after another
after another, and said this isthe information we have, this is what
they're planning to do, this ishow we you know, we're not going
to tell you how we know it, but this is what we know.
We know more too. My guess, and it's a guess, but it's
(23:52):
a I think it's an educated guess, is that they wouldn't have done that
if they didn't actually have information.I think that I think that that guy
from Russia that made the phone callwas legitimately concerned that America, and let's
just call it what it is,America would would use this, would would
set off a false flag dirty bombpinted on the Russians, put it through
(24:14):
all of their compromised media sources inthe EU and Associated Press or AS or
as it's become known, American PravdaAP, you know, all those news
agencies, and then you know,AP, Reuters, all of the American
(24:36):
media would all just pick up unprovokednuclear attacked by the Russians. Unprovoked nuclear
attack. But you know, justyou just get in that news cycle,
and then you'd have you'd have twohundred and fifty plus million Americans believing that
Russia launched a nuclear attack against Ukraine. And then good luck arguing with those
people online who are convinced that whatthey're hearing about this is the truth.
(25:00):
Because I've heard it on CBS andABC and CNN and MSNBC and even Fox
News is all saying the same thing, so it must be true, right,
That's how they'll they'll think about itand it won't be true. And
and that scares the shit out ofme because we do that all the time.
This is like our you know,this is how we do. And
then of course I love that theycame out and said this in advance too,
(25:22):
because if there's one good way todestroy a false flag is to announce
that they're going to do it beforethey do it, then it's very tough
for them to do it that waybecause then everyone's going, wait a second,
it happened exactly like that, guys. Now, Now, of course,
it could be that the Russians areactually going to do it and they're
trying to like set this up maybe, but I don't think so. I
(25:42):
think it's I think that Russian guywas probably acting on information that they had
that was pretty good. You know. I think that in wartime there is
a time and a place for falseflags to be pulled off, but usually
one side doesn't have to Usually thetruth falls to one side or the other,
(26:03):
which kind of gives them an installationfrom having to do things like that,
and it's been honestly, the truthhas been on the side of the
Russians for twenty fucking years. Really, It's kind of how I see it.
Nothing going on in the Ukraine issurprising really on either side, no
matter how ridiculous the propaganda that comesout, like that the Russians are providing
(26:26):
Fiagara to the soldiers so that theycan rape the Ukrainian women. That is,
I mean, that's just straight outof the propaganda handbook. Yeah,
I mean, rape as a weaponof war is very real, and some
of the I mean it goes backall through history, of course, but
some of the more some of themore recently documented stuff goes back to like
(26:49):
the Civil War when like the Unionsoldiers were given the green lights to rape,
pillage, burnhouses, and just completeyou know, it's a it's a
campaign of complete and total demoralism acrossthe board that no one was exempt from,
including women and children. So,yeah, if you're facing death on
a daily basis, um, youwere no longer yourself. You turn,
(27:11):
you turn into like an animal.You've seen those pictures of like the Russian
soldier. You've seen the two picturesof the same guy, Russian soldier like
his when he was his picture thatit was taken when he was just joining
the army, and then it wasfour years later and he looked totally different
and he had that crazy look inhis eyes. It's like, yeah,
if you've seen some shit, you'regoing to do some shit. You know,
you're going to be an unhinged animal. Do they need to provide viagra?
(27:37):
I mean maybe not. I don't, I don't know. It just
sounds like it just sounds like thetype of story that you would put out
there if you were trying to againdehumanize the enemy. You know, we
did that with the Japanese, wouldcall them monkeys and stuff like that and
said that they were they were animals, that they were you know less stand
(27:57):
they were, they weren't even humans. We have the Israelis, you know,
and their their work calling non Jewsgoyum, right, cattle lest stand.
They call the Palestinians bugs, insects, things like that. Well,
if you're an insect, then thenwhat do I care if I step on
you? Right? And so ifyou can convince the fighters, the people
(28:17):
that are actually doing the you know, the battling, if you convince them
that the enemy that they're fighting isn'ta person just like them that probably has
two kids and maybe loves their familyand doesn't want to be here just as
much as you don't. Like,if you can convince them that that person
is an insect, then it's easierto pull the trigger when you got a
clean shot. So this is howthey This is how they take normal,
(28:41):
good people and turn them into killers. And it's funny because in World War
Two they were even propagandizing the children. I mean they had cartoons. Um,
Sergeant Snaffo was like one of thebest. When you go back and
you watch Sergeant Snaffo, like allthe Japanese guys have these like squinty eyes
like this and these big buckade andthey all talk with that Japanese accent like
you can't understand them, and theymake them seem like animals. And they
(29:03):
sold that to children. Yeah,they sold that to fucking children, you
know. And it's crazy when yousee to the depths of which the propaganda
goes and then you tell people Hitlernever had gas chambers and that was wartime
propaganda. They look at you likeyour fucking hair is on fire, right,
It's why I don't I don't haveenough hair or left to spare for
that, man. I tell youthat is that is that's a you know,
(29:29):
it's like if you can get peopleto understand that propaganda is used,
then then then the next step isit's like, well, listen, I'm
going to tell you some things thatyou believe are true to this day,
that we're propaganda. Back then,you know, we we got a good
taste of it our generation with thebabies and the incubators. You know when
that that whole lie that that Narayahtold in order to get us into the
(29:55):
Iraqi war, when she was theKawaiti ambassador's daughter and coached by Hill and
Nolton, a public relations firm,telling her what to say during this thing,
talking about taking babies out of theincubator and leaving them to die on
the cold floor. That was acomplete lie. And we know that now
because it's declassified, but at thetime, you know, it kind of
(30:18):
gets you emotionally into the hw Bushhad no support for that for that first
war. You remember that that thatthat golf for the support was not with
him, But it wasn't until theystarted with the bullshit and the propaganda that
then it's won public opinion and theyfelt like they had the right to go
(30:40):
into Kuwait in Saudi Arabia and eventuallyIraq. Yeah. And then shortly after
that war came to an end,we have Oklahoma City and Oklahoma City.
When you really come to understand,Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City was an attempt
to drag us back into the Iraqwar, plain and simple. All the
propaganda in the days that came outimmediately following, we're all blaming it on
(31:03):
Saddam Hussein and ye Had Judith Miller, and books were written on this and
it's it's Unrealith Judith Miller. Laterin two thousand and one, part of
the Dark Winter simulation she was in. She was part of the simulation,
and then in that simulation, membersof the media were mailed anthrax. And
(31:26):
then but that was a simulation,so it's just fake. And then a
couple of months later, in reallife, members of the media were actually
mailed anthrax, including Judith Miller herself, But it turned out that the anthrax
that was mailed to her was harmless. But I'm sure that it's all just
a humongous coincidence. Yep, youknow, and when you really trace back
(31:49):
the culprits behind all this stuff,like it was all about bringing us back
into war in the Middle East.And who's the only country in the world
to benefit from us go in thewar in the Middle East? Israel?
It ain't us, and sure ashellin US. So back to some of
this new propaganda, this one iswhat really Like I just had to sit
here and like I literally shook myhead and was like I couldn't fucking believe
(32:12):
it. But um Putin escalates thebattle and sends disease Russian prisoners to the
front. Un fucking believable. Thisis from MSNBC, so uh. And
then you have actually an article fromPravda from the um I don't know if
this is it's Pravda dot com dotUA, so, I don't know where
(32:35):
that's based out of. But theygo into more detail and they say that
the Russian private military company Wagner hasstarted to recruit large numbers of prisoners who
are suffering from infectious diseases. Soso rad to see Brittany Grinder in a
foxhole somewhere, their heads sticking uplike out of the foxhole because she's so
(32:57):
tall, he's so tall whatever.I don't know. We just have we
figured out if that's a man oralan. I don't know. I don't
know. I figured you know,because there's that picture of her topless shooting
hoops and that looks like a man. That's like a man. That looks
like a man, and when sheducks like dude. But you would think
(33:19):
the Russians would. The Russians they'renot putting up with that shit. They're
passing all kinds of laws banning transshit and all gay propaganda and all that
stuff, and no pride events areYou're gonna get a fucking major fine and
sent to fucking Siberia. Yeah,yeah, this is this is yes.
So so look diseased Russian soldiers beingsent to the front. Um. I'm
(33:44):
just I'm sorry. I'm just notgonna be able to buy that one.
I promise you, I promise you. If I were to dig through the
World War One propaganda, we willfind that in there. Because often Old
War One was a free for allbecause there was no real organized mechanism or
propaganda on any side. It washandled um under, usually typically under under
(34:08):
the army right and it wasn't evenreally army intelligence it was. It was
just it was a ragtag operation acrossthe board, and they didn't really know
what they were doing. They hadn'torganized the psychologists like they did when when
the OSS came around, I mean, Donovan recruited r. H. Nap
(34:28):
And when you really look into ourh NAP, that guy was like top
of his fucking field at the time, master of influence, and he sculpted
all the programs for the OSS onhow to how to create rumors, how
to how to do all the propagandastuff from a psychological perspective, and they
were diseased back then, just justa lot of people were diseased. You've
(34:52):
got you know, like all ofthose like legitimate pandemics had happened or were
happening, and people were still dealingwith a lot of illnesses that had gone
away. So that would have actuallybeen a reasonable thing to assume that the
Russians were sending sick soldiers up tothe front. But this is something most
people don't realize. Like a thirdof the deaths in World War two were
(35:14):
from fucking typhus or other forms ofmalnutrition or disease or whatever. For sure.
Yeah. I mean you tell yougot jungle rotten, you were fucking
dead in a week, you know, oh yeah yeah. Or if you
lived in like some city that hadjust been firebombed, you know, it's
like you're not going to get waterrestored to your city for years. You're
you're in trouble, and then youknow, so you don't have clean drinking
(35:37):
water and then you develop all thesethings, plus your food is not coming
on or yeah, it's bad.Yeah. So when people so, when
they showed all the videos of theconcentration camps after the war and the piles
of the dead, skinny fucking bodieseverywhere, like most people don't realize,
like those people weren't gas. Thosepeople died most likely from typhus if it
(35:58):
was in the last two months ofthe war, starvation, because they've kept
feeding the prisoners all the way upuntil the last days of the war,
until the centers of industry were destroyedand they had no supplies to bring in.
So but yeah, most people thinkthat it's easy to attribute atrocities to
a group of people when you havepictures like that, even if those pictures
are grossly taken out of context.Yeah, disease. Disease killed as many
(36:22):
people they're as bombs, for sure, for sure. But yeah, so
this war and see I barely evencall it a war at this time.
It's like it's no different than well, it's way different from than us being
in Syria, because we're still inSyria, occupying a third of it,
stealing eighty percent of their oil andthe majority of their wheat. God,
(36:49):
the Nazis never did that to anybody, I'll tell you that much. So
what we're doing to Syria is justfucking disgusting. It's a disgrace. It's
most certainly a war crime, crimeagainst humanity, and it illustrates the blatant
hypocrisy of everything going on today inthe war, Yes, perfect yes,
perfectly illustrates it because we we liedabout it, We lied about not being
(37:14):
there, We lied about what Assadwas. He was gassing his own people,
or he was you know, hewas dropping these bombs, these gas
bombs and these buildings, and Imean the evidence was was flimsy. And
then we then Hollywood gets involved andSean Penn goes over there, and then
the White Helmets win an Academy award, you know, and all that ship
(37:36):
and you just you look at that, and as somebody that understands propaganda like
you do, you know, youlook at it and you go, this
is all theater, like, thisis all like the the the Oscar Award
for Best Documentary for for the WhiteHelmets thing. You go, this is
how they reinforce the lie. Thisis there's the lie. And then you
(37:59):
reinforce it, normalize it and geteverybody on board with it. And then
you start giving awards to all thepeople for participating in the lie. And
everyone just goes, oh, can'tbe fake if they if all this stuff
is happening, this would be taketoo much coordination to be fake. And
it's like, well, there's plentyof the coordination going on. They got
time. Yeah, And you know, being someone who is heavily involved in
(38:24):
can be assassination research. I lookat people like Oliver Stone getting standing ovations
at like the Canned Film Festival andstuff for his new documentary which solves nothing,
adds nothing new to the conversation,and it's the exact same thing.
Like the propaganda is everywhere, evenplaces you wouldn't expect it to be.
(38:45):
I'm curious what's your take on TulciGabbert. Now she's come out and she's
and it's been sort of exposed toa lot of people that she is looks
like a sheep dipped intelligence Psychological WarfareOffice sir, who is part of a
unit that has always been deeply involvedin psychological operations. And she is coming
(39:07):
across like part of an operation.Goes on Rogan. She says all the
right things. She's mad at thepeople you want her to be mad at.
She says, we got to endthese war do all that stuff,
and you go yeah, yeah,yeah, And then you find out that
she's she's a young Global World EconomicForum, young global leader. She's a
(39:28):
member of the Council on Foreign Relations, she's a member of the Psychological Warfare
Division of the military. Like,who the fuck is she? M?
She is undoubted okay, And sothis is the hidden hand behind all that,
the CIA. So I don't givea fuck if someone is connected to
whatever part of government, I don'tgive a fuck if they're the janitor.
(39:51):
The CIA saturates everything. I don'tknow, if you've read Doug Valentine's books,
The Strength of the Wolf and theStrength of the Pack, those are
the fucking those are like as importantto read as the goddamn Bible. They
are the history of the United Statesgovernment involvement with drug trafficking in the drug
(40:12):
trade. And he starts off goingback all the way to Arnold Rothstein and
follows it all the way up toIron Contra pretty much, and he goes
into detail on how like the dEA, when they formed the DA,
they formed the DA because the FederalBureau of Narcotics was so corrupt. Everyone
was on Arnold Rothstein's fucking payroll,right, So they get rid of that,
and they have in the meantime acouple of like miscellaneous agencies that try
(40:36):
to do it. But then eventuallythey come up in the nineteen seventies with
the fucking d EA, and itwas formed the initial guys who started the
fucking d EA were members of theCIA. And the first thing they did
was they staffed the entire upper managementof the d EA with people who were
CIA, particularly in internal affairs,so that when cases came across their desk,
(40:57):
they knew which way to shuffle themto do we protect this guy or
do we go after this guy?Right? So interesting because we know the
CIA controls the global drug trade.And you can prove that by going back
to like Ted Shackley and sixty sixin Laos and Air America all through the
seventies stuff and the dead bodies.But here that was the United States fucking
government via the CIA who did that. And when you get into like how
(41:20):
Pablo Escobar came about, that wasformed by a partnership between the CIA and
the Galen organization. Daniel Shean,who I'm not a big fan of UM,
but he has a been around along time, is one of the
lawyers on the Watergate case, sohe's got some bona fetus sweet erm.
(41:40):
So he UM actually tells a storyabout them, the Galen organization, and
their involvement with setting up the PabloEscobar cartel down in Mexico, you know.
And basically there was a yeah becauseit was a guy named Joseph Berkheimer
Smith who was the number two guyin the CIA station in Mexico City.
(42:02):
And so one day the head ofthe Mexican FBI comes and sees him and
says, hey, tomorrow we're gonnago and we're gonna take a ride and
I'm going to introduce you to somepeople. And so they pick him up,
and he goes on a plane andhe gets flown to Argentina, and
so he gets out of the plane, he gets in a jeep and they
(42:22):
go drive him off into the wildernessand then they go over a hill and
then they come out into this Bavarianvillage that's like straight out of Germany,
right, And they go into thiswhat looks like a German pub and they
walk into the pub and on thewall, and this is in nineteen seventy
three, I think, or somethinglike that, early seventies or late sixties,
(42:43):
and he walks into this pub andcovering the entire wall was a massive
Swastika flag, like full size coveringthe wall. And he ends up sitting
down with these guys and basically they'retalking to him about how we just set
up this guy Escobar in Mexico City, and we have operations going on elsewhere,
and we're going to have all themoney in the world to fight all
(43:06):
of our enemies Jesus and so.And he goes and basically he tells them,
he's like, what in my historymakes you think that I'm going to
want to be a part of this? And they say to him, or
we don't think you'd want to bea part of this. We just wanted
to let you know who you're upagainst, so don't fuck with us,
basically, and they put him ona plane back to Mexico City. And
(43:27):
that story was told directly from JosephBerkheimer Smith to Daniel Sheen at a meeting.
They had so some fucking wild stuffin Argentina where they went that city
that I couldn't tell you. Hedoesn't mention the name of the city,
but I'm sure this town's like thatall over. Because most people talk about
Operation Paperclip like it's a big deal. I mean, paper Clip was a
(43:47):
couple hundred people. There was anoperation before paper Clip that was launched because
of the meeting between Reinhardt Galen andDallas and Donovan that basically eventually went on
to form the Galen Organization, whichcreated NATO and all the intelligence agencies and
stuff. But they funneled the highestnumber that I've seen document. It was
two hundred and thirty thousand card carryingNazis out of Europe and North Africa into
(44:12):
Argentina, South America, and acouple hundred of them got to America had
their names changed and went on tolive lives doing other things. Like the
funny thing is, like people talkabout Mangola, right number one, Mangola
didn't do half to ship the peoplesay he did. But when he was
on the run, Alan Dulles wasdirectly coordinating his movements to keep him one
step ahead of the fucking Nazi hunters. So I forget what led to that,
(44:40):
But you know that's a history ofthe organization a drug trade and how
America is really behind it. Imean, we're the bad guys in every
way, shape or form. We'rethe worst cartel. The Mexican cartels and
the mafia have nothing on the fuckingCIA, really, and the CIA when
you put them in a greater contextof the partnership with Israel, the world
is fu Yeah, we're the baddies, as they say. But you can
(45:05):
trace the relationships really going back tothat post war deal with Reinhart Galen.
You can trace it all through thenineteen seventies when they actually had a larger
intelligence network, including countries like Moroccoand Pakistan who are directly in the intelligence
circle because you have the Safari Clubin seventy nine, right, and then
that was the CIA within the CIAbecause they were fucking basically had their balls
(45:27):
cut off after Watergate, and forgood, for good reason, right so,
but yeah, then by the timenine eleven happens, the cabal has
whittled down to the US, Israeland when it's convenient for them, the
Saudies. But the Saudis are notin the upper level decision making of that
fucking relationship, I tell you thatmuch. No, they're having they're having
(45:52):
problems with us these days, orI should say we're having problems with them
these days. Oh well, Ijust love that. Um what's his name,
the you know, the guy whokilled Kashogi, whatever the fuck his
name is he? Yes, yeah, how he told Biden is basically,
fuck off with your oil demands.You know, it's amazing because, like
(46:12):
God, Biden has fucked up sobad as far as domestic energy goes.
Like, say what you will aboutthe Bush family, but the Bush family
maintained a tight relationship with the Saudis. You know, maybe a little too
tight, But that would have neverhappened when the Bushes were in charge.
They would have never gotten that sortof response from the Saudis. Probably because
the Saudis respect the psychopathy of theBush family a little bit more than they
(46:35):
do the Bidens. They know thatif you're the if you're in the Bush
family, they'll put a bomb onyour plane, no, no questions asked.
There's nothing that but the Biden administration. Uh, they would, they'd
put a bomb on the wrong planebecause they're so inconfident. Well, I
mean the connection obviously through Bandar Bush. Yeah, yeah, you know,
he was so close they gave theycalled them Bandi Bush. Yeah yeah,
(47:00):
I mean that relationship. The relationshiplasted for goddamn ever. But see,
here's another interesting thing, because youhave this relationship with Morocco that most people
don't really talk about because so IndilyPlaza, you have the umbrella man who's
standing next to the dark complected man, right, that dark complected man in
daily Plaza who was pumping his fistbasically signaling to the shooters. That was
(47:22):
Ahmed Delemmi. And Ahmed Delemmi wasa Moroccan general and he was a Jew,
and he was a massad operative.He was an assassination coordinator involved in
the assassination of Ben Barka. Likethat's how I identified him as a dark
complected man, because when you startgetting into people's backgrounds and connections and relationships
and what they were involved in.And if somebody like Ahmed Delemmi is involved
(47:45):
in a bunch of assassinations around nineteensixty two nineteen sixty three on behalf of
the Massad and this guy Indily Plazakind of looks like him, well guess
what, it's probably fucking him.So our game of like snipers, black
man, ailers, intelligence operatives,it's like All Star weekend when you have
the NBA Ulstar Game in Vegas andlike all the stars show up and everything.
(48:08):
It's like, yeah, that's whatJFK assassination was. It was like
the All Star game for contract killers. Yes, I can only think of
a couple, Like there was acouple of Corsican assassins like Jean Suetra who
were internationally known and hit men,and he was in Daily Plaza, but
he was not a shooter. Likethey flew in the Corsicans, and they
(48:30):
flew in Mexican assassins, and theyflew in mob guys. And like when
the FBI went to go look forwho what what commonly known shooters or assassins
were in Texas that weekend they wouldfind like fifty of them, Like it's
not even they were all there.Yeah. Well and man, if you're
you got it's like happened. Youknow. They had tickets to the big
(48:51):
game. M that was gonna bethe big game. They were gonna see
it for themselves. They would appreciateI would. I'll tell you what,
if I was a contract shooter andI wasn't planning on shooting the president,
I wouldn't be standing around where thepresident is going to get shot waiting for
them to pin it on me.No, not at all. But I
don't know. But um so,yeah, that's about going to wrap it
(49:14):
up for this week. Anything elsebefore we get out here, Charlie,
anything else is catching your attention?No, well, everything catches me.
I mean, I'm just watching thethe worst coordinated uh presidential I mean that
say what you will about like Trumpand Obama and all these people. They
(49:34):
they had a control on the information. And now when you see the Biden
administration, nobody seems to know what'sgoing on. The White House is contradicting
him. Every time he opens hismouth, he says something ridiculous than the
White House contradicts him, and thenthe Press secretary gets into arguments with people
in the during the briefing room,during those interactions in the briefing room,
and it is it's a clown show, but it's actually perfect for this administration,
(50:00):
what we're what we're dealing with.Every time I'm on Twitter and I
see the people that have taken KareenJean Pierre, the White House Press Secretary.
They've put the clown makeup on her. You know, they've got that
that thing where where she's giving thespeech, but it's it's animated in a
(50:21):
way where she's got the clown makeup. It's just perfect. It's just perfect
for them. They're all a bunchof clowns. But they're running a real
dangerous game in Ukraine, and thatmight get us into World War three.
And and could you imagine we getinto World War three because of the Biden
administration, this band of retards outthere. How embarrassing. I mean,
it's one thing if you've got likea bloodthirsty psychopath running in your country,
(50:45):
but to have the Biden administration bumblingand fumbling and screwing it all up and
then getting us into World War three, I feel like we could do better.
See, I have a feeling thatif the ship gets real, ill,
because it hasn't gotten really yet,they're still just fucking poking at each
other. Really, nothing significant hasfucking happened. I mean, they were
(51:06):
able to take a twenty percent ofthe country with their eyes closed, and
for the most part, only afraction of their eighteen. If the ship
gets real and Ukraine does something likea fucking dirty bomb, it's only a
matter of time before the Russians arebacked by the Chinese. Period. Their
Chinese are not going to stand becausenobody, nobody with half a brain in
(51:29):
their fucking head, wants any kindof radiation type weapon to be used anywhere.
And if that's what needs to happenfor them to tell the United States,
cut your shit out, you know, if the bully finally gets his
ass kicked, well, I wouldsay finally, but again, we haven't
won a war since eighteen twelve,you know it. It's so ridiculous,
(51:52):
so ridiculous. We got beat byguys in mud huts, and we got
beat. We got beat by abunch of sheep fucking farms in Afghanistan too.
Don't forget about that. Wearing sandals. See, I don't think Russia's
gonna play. They're gonna come inand they're like a big boot. They're
just gonna step on everything. Andif they're funneling weapons in from other routes
(52:12):
in other countries, Russia's gonna hitthat too. Um. I see all
of this happening before any kind ofnuclear or anything happens. Well, well
we got that to look forward to. Yes, So all right, everybody,
thanks for tuning in. Till nexttime. I'm Corey Hughes with Charlie
Robinson. I'll see I always suckat closing these things out, you say
at that point. I'll see nexttime